WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.440 --> 00:00:05.480 This is High on the Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez Son Fox Sports 2 00:00:05.519 --> 00:00:10.439 fourteen fifty. Subscribe now to the podcast on the iHeartRadio. Wow, just 3 00:00:10.519 --> 00:00:14.800 surgery. Hi on the ball. Hey, welcome back to Winning the Ball 4 00:00:14.800 --> 00:00:17.760 here on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen on Steve. He's Jay. Now we've got 5 00:00:17.760 --> 00:00:23.440 Sammy with breaking news. Hi on the balling news. All right, so 6 00:00:23.600 --> 00:00:27.640 we've touched enough, I mean, maybe not enough on you of a football, 7 00:00:27.839 --> 00:00:31.239 And we talked before the show. There's a chance that Ve could could 8 00:00:31.320 --> 00:00:36.399 run the table and win the Pac twelve and that would probably have a mathematically 9 00:00:36.560 --> 00:00:42.479 yeah, mathematically not eliminated. That would bring a second game with Washington who 10 00:00:42.600 --> 00:00:45.880 I feel like if we play them neutral field. Not saying we're gonna win, 11 00:00:45.920 --> 00:00:50.799 but there's a chance. But Noah Fafida is now the fourth freshman of 12 00:00:50.799 --> 00:00:53.759 the Week in a row, and it looks like he'll win Freshman of the 13 00:00:53.880 --> 00:00:57.600 Year if he doesn't. Something astronomically is gone poorly, but I thought it 14 00:00:57.640 --> 00:01:03.560 was interesting. Jane de Laura one freshman of the Year at Washington State before 15 00:01:03.600 --> 00:01:07.599 transferring to U of A, So maybe there's no pattern there. Hopefully Fafita 16 00:01:07.680 --> 00:01:11.959 is the guy for the foreseeable future. But this kind of brings the question 17 00:01:12.079 --> 00:01:19.159 of will DeLaura stay in Tucson and the transfer portal, will he go somewhere 18 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:22.239 maybe he can play who I don't know what you guys think about that. 19 00:01:23.719 --> 00:01:26.799 Yeah, you know, I mean, he get injured or whatever. But 20 00:01:26.840 --> 00:01:30.760 I mean, if things stay the way they are, I wouldn't be surprised 21 00:01:30.760 --> 00:01:34.920 if de Laura was not on the roster this year. You know, take 22 00:01:34.920 --> 00:01:38.359 it, take a transfer that I mean. The key to him is is 23 00:01:38.480 --> 00:01:42.359 you know, will he get his degree this year? Sure, because then 24 00:01:42.400 --> 00:01:44.879 it opens the door for him to leave his a graduate transfer and go wherever 25 00:01:44.879 --> 00:01:47.640 he wants without having to sit out. He's already got a transfer. I 26 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:49.599 don't know that he can transfer if he does again, right, that makes 27 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:55.959 sense. But Fafita is the guy for the foreseeable future. And we talked 28 00:01:56.000 --> 00:02:00.359 about some of the Bowl games you has been mentioned in that may change with 29 00:02:00.519 --> 00:02:05.599 the playoff rankings to come on Tuesday, right tomorrow, those kind of obviously 30 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:08.240 we won't be in the top fifteen, but they'll they'll do their rankings and 31 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:10.479 then the Bowl people will do theirs. But now, as of now, 32 00:02:10.800 --> 00:02:15.800 it looks like the Las Vegas Bowl against Nebraska or Minnesota. That's not sexy 33 00:02:15.840 --> 00:02:20.360 at all, No, not one bit. But the second one we talked 34 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:23.199 about, the Alimo Bowl against Kansas, that seems a little bit more realistic. 35 00:02:23.639 --> 00:02:29.560 If that was that was the biggest, that'd be fun Kansas. Kansas 36 00:02:29.639 --> 00:02:30.759 is a good football team. Yeah, that'd be a good that'd be a 37 00:02:30.800 --> 00:02:34.120 really good, a good football team. No, that would. I mean, 38 00:02:34.319 --> 00:02:37.439 I think I beat by Michigan State this last week. I don't know 39 00:02:37.439 --> 00:02:39.639 how some of these teams. Well, it's still plenty of time. And 40 00:02:39.680 --> 00:02:43.520 then the last one that I saw. This will probably change. But we 41 00:02:43.560 --> 00:02:46.000 talked about the ACC. They have us in the Sun Bowl against Boston College, 42 00:02:47.400 --> 00:02:51.000 gonna be a better ball than Yeah. The Holiday Bowl is also an 43 00:02:51.039 --> 00:02:54.199 ACC opponent. It's on the table right now. I saw Oregon State in 44 00:02:54.240 --> 00:02:58.520 that game before we beat that. For Arizona fans sake, I hope they 45 00:02:58.520 --> 00:03:04.240 stayed closer because if there's this is a football town, they'll be able to 46 00:03:04.240 --> 00:03:07.439 go see them playing. If it's Vegas, heck, it's gonna be Vega. 47 00:03:07.039 --> 00:03:10.439 They're going to turn out the lights their last one out exactly exactly, 48 00:03:10.639 --> 00:03:14.280 which is good. Great because they played basketball, same we played basketball. 49 00:03:14.400 --> 00:03:16.439 Yeah, exactly, That's what I'm saying. So last one hit the lights, 50 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:22.879 yes, yeah, borrow somebody. Well, the thing is about that 51 00:03:22.960 --> 00:03:25.439 is you'll be spending your money on game tickets and because you're not gonna have 52 00:03:25.439 --> 00:03:31.479 time to gamble it blood blood, And so we talked about you of a 53 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:37.240 possibly at the end of the year being the third best pack of school and 54 00:03:37.840 --> 00:03:43.080 USC who was preseason even the first couple of weeks where national title contenders. 55 00:03:43.080 --> 00:03:45.759 And now I don't know if you guys saw the clip this weekend. Caleb 56 00:03:45.800 --> 00:03:50.000 Williams, I think with his mom quite emotional after a loss like that, 57 00:03:50.159 --> 00:03:53.240 and I mean we talked about it, I think a week ago of oh 58 00:03:53.280 --> 00:03:57.360 should Caleb stop playing? Some people are saying, oh, he should stop, 59 00:03:57.400 --> 00:04:01.400 and I mean, say what you want about Caleb Williams the individual, 60 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:04.439 but he's he's still one damn good football player. He really is. No, 61 00:04:04.560 --> 00:04:06.879 he really isn't you know what. I saw that clip of him. 62 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:11.199 You know, he cares, he cares, you know, and then you 63 00:04:11.280 --> 00:04:15.279 really realize he's what maybe twenty twenty one, you know, you know, 64 00:04:15.319 --> 00:04:18.839 I mean, he's still he's still a virtual kid and pretty much a kid 65 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:23.720 and upset that his season has gone into the crapper and he's not going to 66 00:04:23.720 --> 00:04:26.839 be hiding the trophy winner. You know, they're not going to the they're 67 00:04:26.879 --> 00:04:30.959 not going into the playoffs. The season is a disaster for him. You 68 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:33.439 we're going to really find out a lot more about him how he handles all 69 00:04:33.519 --> 00:04:38.000 this the rest of the season and goes out there and plays and does the 70 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:40.800 best he can. Look how you put it, but not really like how 71 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:43.279 you put it. He goes one into the crapper. It is in the 72 00:04:43.319 --> 00:04:46.360 crapper, totally in the crapper. They just see, Yeah, that was 73 00:04:46.399 --> 00:04:50.160 coming up. They just well, that's the thing that everybody's saying, and 74 00:04:50.160 --> 00:04:55.879 and you know, and and and and uh what the Lincoln Riley. There's 75 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:58.879 a lot of people who are really pissed at him that he that he let 76 00:04:59.240 --> 00:05:02.519 he had a guy like Caleb Williams and he would just not do what he 77 00:05:02.600 --> 00:05:08.920 needed to do with the defense so that Caleb Williams and the offense they put 78 00:05:08.959 --> 00:05:14.000 together could possibly win a national champion. That they basically he wasted two years 79 00:05:14.040 --> 00:05:16.360 of Caleb Williams because he wouldn't fire his friend. I mean, well, 80 00:05:16.399 --> 00:05:20.560 if you look at Lincoln Riley's teams. Historically, you'd had Kyler, Kyler 81 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:25.160 Murray, and Baker Mayfield. The Baker team was in the playoff, but 82 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:30.279 all of his teams they were never well defensively. Right ever, they will 83 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:33.800 they probably won't be, and they never were. But so Caleb, he'll 84 00:05:33.839 --> 00:05:38.000 be He'll be fine in a couple of months. I'm pretty convinced he'll be 85 00:05:38.000 --> 00:05:40.560 fine. He'll be fine. At the end of November, he'll go he's 86 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:44.480 not gonna I'm sure one hundred dollars says he doesn't play in whatever bowl game 87 00:05:44.519 --> 00:05:47.040 they they play, and he's not gonna play in that. And then he's 88 00:05:47.079 --> 00:05:50.319 gonna make about forty million dollars and he'll be just fine, fine, and 89 00:05:50.759 --> 00:05:55.120 he won't be a crying with his mom anymore exactly. And we talked a 90 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:57.839 little bit about the playoff round. Wait, unless he goes to the Bears 91 00:06:00.600 --> 00:06:04.360 Arizona. This is part of the bringing news. Kyler Murray is gonna start 92 00:06:04.360 --> 00:06:08.680 this weekend. Oh is he really? Yeah? In quotes from Gannon coach 93 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:12.720 Gannon, if all goes according to point at home against the Falcons, if 94 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:15.800 all goes according to the planet, or they get tired of losing. He's 95 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:17.399 not gonna be the solution, that's for sure. No, he may not 96 00:06:17.439 --> 00:06:21.920 be the solution, but I think it's important as a franchise to see what's 97 00:06:23.000 --> 00:06:25.079 left. If they got to get back, they have to they have to 98 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:30.600 see if if he still has the goods quarter right, then maybe you don't 99 00:06:30.680 --> 00:06:32.759 need to draft a quarter Well, yeah, I mean that's the thing. 100 00:06:32.800 --> 00:06:35.480 They want to see what he's got left and then say, Okay, you 101 00:06:35.519 --> 00:06:39.759 know, let's keep him or let's go let's let's tank and go get a 102 00:06:39.839 --> 00:06:43.079 quarter for the price that we paid for about three years. About three quarterbacks 103 00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:46.360 out there, So Arizona's gonna get if they want a quarterback, they're gonna 104 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:48.360 get a good quarterback. They're gonna get Drake May, They're gonna get Caleb 105 00:06:48.399 --> 00:06:56.279 Williams are gonna get there. The dude's state can't. So I mean there's 106 00:06:56.360 --> 00:07:00.079 there's guys Is Nix, will b Nicks will be there right Like. I 107 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:03.720 like him a lot. Yeah, he's locked. I don't know if better. 108 00:07:04.240 --> 00:07:08.519 I think he's a better version of Justin Herbert. I don't, man, 109 00:07:08.600 --> 00:07:11.600 that's that's some crazy. I don't think he's going to translate to the 110 00:07:11.600 --> 00:07:18.160 next level. But really, now, I don't even think some people say 111 00:07:18.199 --> 00:07:20.560 I look like bon Nicks. I don't know. No, wonder you're a 112 00:07:20.600 --> 00:07:27.680 little critical of the guy. No, But nonetheless, Kyler and the and 113 00:07:27.759 --> 00:07:31.240 the Cardinals have a lot more to to figure out. But last thing on 114 00:07:31.519 --> 00:07:38.759 NCAA football this week Penn State, Michigan, Ole, miss Georgia two games 115 00:07:38.800 --> 00:07:43.639 that could start to switch them things up. And I was talking with some 116 00:07:43.720 --> 00:07:46.319 friends. Maybe we talked about it, but in a week and a half, 117 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:50.839 maybe three weeks, we could have eight teams all with one loss, 118 00:07:51.040 --> 00:07:56.560 and the committee won't know what to do with that. But we'll we'll see 119 00:07:56.680 --> 00:08:01.600 over and there's over. I mean, I think there's twelve teams that could. 120 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:03.519 It's gonna be fun. It's fun. It's great. It's better like 121 00:08:03.560 --> 00:08:07.560 that than than having the normal normal people. I'm wondering again, you know, 122 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:11.079 watch out for Alabama again? Yeah? All of a sudden, you 123 00:08:11.079 --> 00:08:13.000 know, I already thought they were the dynasty was over, right, all 124 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:16.279 of a sudden, they're kicking the crap out of people, right, yea? 125 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:18.399 And yeah, and if yeah, can I throw something in here real? 126 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:22.360 Yeah? Sure? College football related, everyzone is number twenty twenty three. 127 00:08:22.399 --> 00:08:24.920 Three and twenty four. Okay, so twenty three and ap let's go 128 00:08:24.920 --> 00:08:28.439 with that one. Yeah, uh too low? Too high? Or what 129 00:08:28.519 --> 00:08:31.360 do you think? Because I have some thoughts. I think it's about right. 130 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:33.720 You know, they're just breaking in, you know. I think it's 131 00:08:33.759 --> 00:08:37.120 perfect. I think it's about right. Okay, but they weren't in the 132 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:39.559 rankings before. So this is the question to ask Jed. But I didn't 133 00:08:39.600 --> 00:08:43.320 only because you get a standard answer. Erizone has been one of the last 134 00:08:43.360 --> 00:08:48.080 games in the world every weekend. Last week. The voters aren't staying up 135 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:52.159 to watch this baby, so they don't know how good They're not seeing the 136 00:08:52.159 --> 00:08:54.279 team we're seeing right, because they don't see them, right, So does 137 00:08:54.320 --> 00:08:58.679 that affect it? I think of course it does. It always has that's 138 00:08:58.720 --> 00:09:01.519 my point. So twenty three twenty three is probably not really acturate. Well, 139 00:09:01.799 --> 00:09:05.279 yeah, right, I don't think If you want to say, where 140 00:09:05.320 --> 00:09:09.159 do they belong? I think they're in the top twenty. That's my point. 141 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:13.039 Okay, point, but I'm not. But in terms of them being 142 00:09:13.080 --> 00:09:15.840 twenty three, I didn't say, oh man, they should have been higher, 143 00:09:15.960 --> 00:09:18.840 although Oklahoma State did jump in for the first time and they are fifteen. 144 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:20.759 Yeah, that's crazy. Okay, well yeah, so because they saw 145 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:24.080 that game again, So they saw the game, but they haven't done what 146 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:26.480 Arizona's done. Right, then I'm not trying to be you know, well 147 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:31.399 three straight maybe with with them playing Colorado this week, people are still paying 148 00:09:31.399 --> 00:09:35.960 attention to I don't know, you know, it's a noon game our time. 149 00:09:35.120 --> 00:09:37.600 You know, more as you say, more eyes on them. You 150 00:09:37.639 --> 00:09:41.919 know, if of a sudden they do a forty eight to ten on on 151 00:09:41.039 --> 00:09:43.799 Colorado, then people go, holy aw, what have we been missing? 152 00:09:45.600 --> 00:09:50.000 But it's funny you say that because us one of only three teams in the 153 00:09:50.080 --> 00:09:54.159 rankings with three losses, and I get the I get the run we've been 154 00:09:54.200 --> 00:09:56.039 on. It would have been we would have been ranked last week. How'd 155 00:09:56.039 --> 00:10:01.879 we be usc run? That's a game, people, or exactly if they 156 00:10:01.919 --> 00:10:03.000 you know, there were some people who were grapping about them not being ranked. 157 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:07.000 Let's pasic, guys, it's Arizona with three losses. They're not going 158 00:10:07.080 --> 00:10:11.440 to be ranked over a bunch of teams with no question unless unless what we've 159 00:10:11.440 --> 00:10:13.159 done in the last three weeks is right. Three ranked. But you know 160 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:18.600 how these rankings are. Most of the people don't even they look at records. 161 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:22.000 They just look at records and the school time and be sort of history. 162 00:10:22.440 --> 00:10:26.919 You know, if you're if you're six and three and your Nebraska, 163 00:10:28.399 --> 00:10:31.360 you might you gotta be get a chance of getting ranked if you're six and 164 00:10:31.360 --> 00:10:35.799 three in areson, even though Nebraska, Arizona has been better than Nebraska since 165 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:37.799 the Holiday Book. I'll keep you another one, but you go ahead and 166 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:41.200 finish your stuff. If we have I have a bunch of you. I 167 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:43.480 was gonna bring up college basketball. Go ahead, go ahead, good and 168 00:10:43.559 --> 00:10:46.480 we have time. But so the NCAA basketball starts. There's over fifty games 169 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:50.799 today, and I know Ryan was talking about it when he was on the 170 00:10:50.919 --> 00:10:56.480 parody in college basketball seems about his level as it has been. And so 171 00:10:56.519 --> 00:11:00.879 I wanted to ask you guys, if you had to pick four Final four 172 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:05.360 teams right now, would they be the typical kind of Duke Kansas, Perdue, 173 00:11:05.360 --> 00:11:11.159 Gonzaga or would or there's is there are there teams that you think could 174 00:11:11.600 --> 00:11:16.240 maybe like a U of A or Tennessee, Auburn, Miami. I don't 175 00:11:16.279 --> 00:11:18.879 know if you guys have looked at it a lot enough, but well there's 176 00:11:18.919 --> 00:11:22.080 teams that somebody you know somebody's gonna be in the final fourth who we just 177 00:11:22.120 --> 00:11:26.159 absolutely don't expect. But if you're gonna pick, you're gonna have to pick 178 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:28.480 now and put money on it. Whatever. You're gonna take the chalk, 179 00:11:28.559 --> 00:11:33.440 aren't you? You know the Kansas Duke and the Florida team that if they're 180 00:11:33.440 --> 00:11:37.399 gonna suffer some team the games because they gut there. Now people understand who 181 00:11:37.399 --> 00:11:41.480 they are. Fau. That was a flukey final four last week last year 182 00:11:41.519 --> 00:11:46.240 with San Diego State and Florida Atlantic in there. So you know, I 183 00:11:46.480 --> 00:11:48.799 mean, yeah, i'd be picking some of the chalk. And you know, 184 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:52.840 you see final four projections that they're all over the board. Yeah, 185 00:11:52.919 --> 00:11:56.960 I've seen Arizona and a bunch of them. You know, I saw God 186 00:11:56.960 --> 00:11:58.720 who was there was one I saw other day that it was just like really 187 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:01.440 and it was like it wasn't San Diego State, but or somebody liked that 188 00:12:01.559 --> 00:12:05.960 Creighton c there you go is good. But yeah, that's why, I 189 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:09.159 mean, we see it in the NBA, which I'll talk about it in 190 00:12:09.200 --> 00:12:11.240 a minute, but the level of talent in basketball now is just is on 191 00:12:11.360 --> 00:12:15.879 the three. So transfer portal, dude, Yeah, transfer portal, That's 192 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:20.240 what that's all about. And speaking of talent, Lebron almost at forty years 193 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:24.759 old, by the way, is third in MVP odds. It's open. 194 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:28.080 Wow, the first week of the NBA season. I don't know if you've 195 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:31.000 got a chance to watch any NBA, but as the nerd NBA fan that 196 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:35.399 I am, Lebron Webin Yama, I don't know if you guys watching it 197 00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:39.919 a little bit. It's unbelievable what he's able to do. And there's been 198 00:12:39.919 --> 00:12:43.519 a lot more rumors, a lot more talks about the NBA expanding to thirty 199 00:12:43.519 --> 00:12:46.799 two teams, getting a Vegas team and a Seattle team back just because of 200 00:12:46.840 --> 00:12:52.679 how much they're how much time? How about them Golden State Warriors road games? 201 00:12:52.720 --> 00:12:56.039 There an road games? Now I get pull out the team and look 202 00:12:56.080 --> 00:12:58.679 how good they are. I don't even think that. I mean personally, 203 00:12:58.759 --> 00:13:01.519 you guys can have Chris Paul for all the marbles you want it like, 204 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:05.039 I'm so glad he's as long as Eton didn't go there were fine. Hey, 205 00:13:05.080 --> 00:13:09.559 he's off the Suns and the Sons don't look very very good either. 206 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:13.360 But that's that's a topic for another for another day. My guys, the 207 00:13:13.399 --> 00:13:16.240 guys are just hurt. But it doesn't matter. You got what else? 208 00:13:16.840 --> 00:13:18.840 I was going to talk about Craig Council going to the Cubs. That's easy. 209 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:22.000 It's a big deal. That's a big deal. And I just saw 210 00:13:22.080 --> 00:13:24.879 charge he's the highest paid manager in baseball at eight million dollars a year. 211 00:13:26.039 --> 00:13:28.200 It's forty million. And then they showed the chart of the other sports, 212 00:13:28.240 --> 00:13:33.519 right, so Belichick's getting twenty a year, you have Craig Council getting eight. 213 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:35.679 I'm trying and pull up the tweet, but I think who else we 214 00:13:35.759 --> 00:13:41.519 got? Monty Williams the highest paid who got fired and then got the highest 215 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:46.360 contract. So in the NBA, crazy stuff, and the NHL head coach 216 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:50.159 five million a year, So it's baseball is right above the which is which 217 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:52.279 is weird? And Saban's the highest NCAA guy. I want to say, 218 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:58.840 I thought it was fourteen something between there. But I mean other than Dak 219 00:13:58.879 --> 00:14:01.480 Prescott and the Cowboys and being able to get over the hump Josh Dobbs c 220 00:14:01.600 --> 00:14:05.200 J. Stroud, I mean, well that was crazy about Josh Bobs. 221 00:14:05.240 --> 00:14:07.279 Did you see any of that? Yeah, but he didn't even know who 222 00:14:07.519 --> 00:14:09.600 the guys that he was playing with didn't know the play, so they're giving 223 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:13.840 him the plays over the headset and running the place and then they win a 224 00:14:13.879 --> 00:14:16.720 game. He was horrible in the first half and then he come back and 225 00:14:16.759 --> 00:14:20.000 win again. Yeah, he wasn't good for the Cardinals. That doesn't make 226 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:24.399 any sense, makes no sense whatsoever. It's a curse, curse, But 227 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:28.080 we gotta we gotta hit the road, all right. We're gonna have Greg 228 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:31.399 Hanson. Uh, if you were able to pick up his column or his 229 00:14:31.399 --> 00:14:37.000 his piece in the Arizondaia Star special section on the the Pac twelve preview, 230 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:43.000 some interesting historical stuff going back to nineteen seventy eight, So we'll pick his 231 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:46.279 brain on that because that's what that's what Greg knows. So uh, we'll 232 00:14:46.279 --> 00:14:48.000 talk a little bit about this last season coming up in the Pack twelve. 233 00:14:48.000 --> 00:15:01.600 So stick around the Bots. 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How were you, Greg? 306 00:20:08.480 --> 00:20:11.039 Hey, you've got your work in a double headed the night. Huh, 307 00:20:11.119 --> 00:20:15.160 it's a long night. The things I don't have to work with Jay 308 00:20:15.200 --> 00:20:17.720 and he doesn't have to work with Hey, Yeah, I have a better 309 00:20:17.759 --> 00:20:22.119 seat. Actually I don't. Actually I really don't. No, I like, 310 00:20:22.680 --> 00:20:26.079 yeah, I really I really don't. I can't you know, well, 311 00:20:26.079 --> 00:20:27.160 I say, you know, you can't eat or anything down there. 312 00:20:27.240 --> 00:20:33.880 They see you. So you had your piece in the in the UH the 313 00:20:33.920 --> 00:20:38.319 spread in the special section on basketball preview yesterday. I just I started reading 314 00:20:38.319 --> 00:20:41.359 it, got a couple of tears in my eye from the uh you know, 315 00:20:41.599 --> 00:20:45.160 talking about the fact this is the last PAC twelve season. You know, 316 00:20:45.279 --> 00:20:48.119 you had some history going back to seventy eight. There was the picture 317 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:52.599 of the of the court rush when they beat UCLA in seventy eight, and 318 00:20:52.640 --> 00:20:56.799 I was, I'm in there somewhere, But just you know, some of 319 00:20:56.839 --> 00:20:59.559 your thoughts on that whole thing. You've been a West Coast guy in terms 320 00:20:59.559 --> 00:21:03.400 of basketball and stuff. Just all the stuff that's going to kind of fade 321 00:21:03.440 --> 00:21:10.640 into into the into history. The one thing that really strikes me is that 322 00:21:10.799 --> 00:21:18.480 UCLA and Arizona have won exactly five hundred and sixty conference games since Arizona joined 323 00:21:18.480 --> 00:21:21.759 the league. That's one of the odds of that. Yeah, one are 324 00:21:21.799 --> 00:21:23.480 the odds of that. Who would ever think that? Because it's u C. 325 00:21:23.640 --> 00:21:30.880 L A. And you know they had been in Arizona eleven straight games 326 00:21:30.880 --> 00:21:34.039 when the Loot was hired. So he started at a big deficit and cut 327 00:21:34.119 --> 00:21:37.799 up pretty quickly. Yeah, and uh, you know, and I mean 328 00:21:37.839 --> 00:21:41.799 I remember that, and then the irony of them winning their first packed well 329 00:21:41.799 --> 00:21:45.359 packed ten championship at u c l A that you know, that doesn't get 330 00:21:45.400 --> 00:21:51.119 lost either. But yeah, you know, I mean it's it's I get 331 00:21:51.160 --> 00:21:52.720 it, you know, packed club football. Everybody's sad, you know U 332 00:21:52.720 --> 00:21:56.240 c l a USC leaving and soff like that. But you know, with 333 00:21:56.319 --> 00:21:59.680 the history that Arizona has in the pack club, it's just kind of I 334 00:21:59.720 --> 00:22:03.599 don't know, oh man, just a little sad. What you know. 335 00:22:03.920 --> 00:22:07.440 I was fortunate to cover Oregon State before I moved to Tucson, and Oregon 336 00:22:07.440 --> 00:22:12.000 State was number one in the nation twenty six and oho and gil Callis Sam. 337 00:22:12.200 --> 00:22:15.279 I mean, you guys have been there one hundred times. You can't 338 00:22:15.279 --> 00:22:18.440 imagine that now, gill Calli Sam was the place to be. They were 339 00:22:18.519 --> 00:22:26.279 unbeatable at gil Callis Sam. And then you know, fast forward a little 340 00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:30.759 bit nineteen eighty nine, Luke goes to core Aleence they opened the season at 341 00:22:30.759 --> 00:22:34.720 Oregon State and you know, he's number one in the league by then, 342 00:22:36.400 --> 00:22:40.559 and that was the famous game that they got blown out by Gary Payton by 343 00:22:40.839 --> 00:22:45.160 twenty probably the worst lossu'd ever had, and Luke tried to kick the basketball 344 00:22:45.160 --> 00:22:49.200 and miss and technical and and once once you get started telling these stories, 345 00:22:49.480 --> 00:22:55.839 you could go forever. Yeah, So what do you think will be missed 346 00:22:55.839 --> 00:23:00.079 the most outside from the ovis the UCLAU of a series. Yeah, you 347 00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:03.039 know what's going to be missed the most when when you know this thing ends 348 00:23:03.240 --> 00:23:08.920 after this year. I think by by Tucson fans, Michaelee Saner fans, 349 00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:15.599 especially the sense of history and all their memories every time the Ducks come to 350 00:23:15.640 --> 00:23:19.119 town. They had so many good games and they'll have to start over now 351 00:23:21.000 --> 00:23:23.640 with Baylor or somebody. You know. I looked this up the other day, 352 00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:26.599 that you know, when Oregon came in, When Arizona came into the 353 00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:33.559 league in nineteen seventy eight, they had never played Oregon never, and it 354 00:23:33.680 --> 00:23:37.720 seemed like almost every game at Matt Court. We're all fortunate to have been 355 00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:41.519 to Matt Court. I mean, the number one arena this league's ever had, 356 00:23:42.079 --> 00:23:45.400 and those I mean, we could talk for an hour right now on 357 00:23:45.440 --> 00:23:48.039 our memories at Matt Court. Oh man, I was just going to ask 358 00:23:48.079 --> 00:23:51.480 you because that's my favorite place, because of anybody smoked in that building and 359 00:23:51.599 --> 00:23:56.240 we were up the flames. It was fantastic. It was fantastic. Our 360 00:23:56.359 --> 00:24:00.319 seats were the best. There the guys, you know, the second deck, 361 00:24:00.440 --> 00:24:03.759 front row, right at mid court. You could see Lout and Ernie 362 00:24:03.839 --> 00:24:07.400 Kent going john to jaw, yelling at each other. Well, you're not 363 00:24:07.440 --> 00:24:11.839 even talking about the guy sitting behind us. Yeah. How about one game 364 00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:15.640 during probably in the early two thousand maybe two thousand and three, Oregon was 365 00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:18.680 beating Arizona the entire game. I think Arizona's ranked number one, and the 366 00:24:18.720 --> 00:24:22.240 fan ride behind me was so bad I couldn't take it. Yeah, and 367 00:24:22.319 --> 00:24:26.079 with like forty seconds to go, ad Jason Gardner drained a three, and 368 00:24:26.119 --> 00:24:30.119 that guy goes, we're dead. You have to you have to speak like 369 00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:37.720 he got where you know he was because we sat together. The dude behind 370 00:24:37.759 --> 00:24:40.640 us all the man, he was a frustrating. But what a fantastic place. 371 00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:44.680 I missed that place. Yeah, walking down those stairs into the Arizonal 372 00:24:44.720 --> 00:24:48.680 locker room and handed that carpet must have been on forty eight years old, 373 00:24:48.319 --> 00:24:52.720 a green carpet, and lude always said was filthy. Right right, let 374 00:24:52.799 --> 00:24:56.519 me ask you a dumb question, because I've never asked anybody this outside of 375 00:24:56.519 --> 00:25:00.400 a guy not named or named Steve Levin in your time, in your research, 376 00:25:00.559 --> 00:25:06.440 who was the most, uh, who was intimidated dated by lout the 377 00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:15.640 most as a U c l A coach or was there? Cope would be 378 00:25:15.720 --> 00:25:18.359 the only one. That's that's why I said it was the only one close 379 00:25:18.440 --> 00:25:22.839 because the guys who came later had a huge egos. Yeah, I was 380 00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:30.440 thinking, yeah, I mean maybe Walt Hazard. Walt Hazard and Jane knows 381 00:25:30.519 --> 00:25:36.680 all as anybody. He was mad at everybody all the time because Luke was 382 00:25:36.759 --> 00:25:41.039 kicking his butt every he hated everybody. Well, I remember that story. 383 00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:45.440 It's yeah, we can't tell that one not here because I get yelled at. 384 00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:48.160 Yeah. But you know, but when you when you think about that, 385 00:25:48.200 --> 00:25:52.079 you know, I think there's a maybe a little bit of a because 386 00:25:52.079 --> 00:25:56.119 the Arizona has been so good and and you know, all the other programs 387 00:25:56.119 --> 00:25:59.440 except for U c l A have kind of been seen as not as good 388 00:25:59.480 --> 00:26:02.119 as Arizona's. I don't think people have an appreciation for Like you said, 389 00:26:02.119 --> 00:26:04.880 the place is like going to gil Coliseum, going to Old Matt Court, 390 00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:11.519 going to Stanford even even uh, you know Col's Jim before they they you 391 00:26:11.519 --> 00:26:15.559 know, expanded it. You know the coziness of that. The time that 392 00:26:15.440 --> 00:26:18.839 Steve the band was on the their band was on the court and Steve Kurr 393 00:26:18.920 --> 00:26:22.319 is walking around in the middle of him. Just stuff like that that happened 394 00:26:22.680 --> 00:26:26.440 that I don't know that. You know, people just like that sid to 395 00:26:26.480 --> 00:26:30.160 Michale that come in Arizona would beat their ass and people wouldn't think about them 396 00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:33.640 again. Oh, how about the game Regie Geart. Lou Campanelli was probably 397 00:26:33.680 --> 00:26:37.599 the most abusive language coach ever in the league. Yeah, And it was 398 00:26:37.599 --> 00:26:41.200 one of those typical games that Harmon and Jim going to the wire and Reggie 399 00:26:41.240 --> 00:26:45.759 Geary made a big play and ran down the sideline right in front of Lou 400 00:26:45.839 --> 00:26:48.839 Campanella and started yelling at him. When there was stuff like that all the 401 00:26:48.880 --> 00:26:51.400 time, he grabbed the phone. I think he got the gun on the 402 00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:56.640 phone and he was like pizza. It was fantastic. And don't forget the 403 00:26:56.680 --> 00:27:00.240 Maples, the bouncing court, the bouncy court, and Tiger the tight your 404 00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:06.720 shot and all that, and those games in Stamford upset number one Arizona in 405 00:27:06.759 --> 00:27:11.799 both eighty eight and eighty nine at Maples and down to the wire games and 406 00:27:11.119 --> 00:27:15.079 they stormed the court. I mean, you don't beat that. Maybe there 407 00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:18.359 are games that match that, but those two games, and I spend more 408 00:27:18.359 --> 00:27:22.799 than thirty years, I still remember those games last for him. Yeah, 409 00:27:22.799 --> 00:27:26.680 well, what about the ones Arizona one, the Kalid Reeves five second drive 410 00:27:27.000 --> 00:27:32.480 full court wins the game, right, the Michael Wright right basket underneath the 411 00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:37.119 building shook. Yeah, that Michael Right game was as good as it gets. 412 00:27:37.920 --> 00:27:41.039 He had to la up with what one second ago? Yeah, and 413 00:27:41.119 --> 00:27:45.960 the basket was moving and I think Stamford was ranked number one. Yeah, 414 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:48.480 yeah, Yeah, that's why it was so crazy. That's one of those 415 00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:51.960 games that they put on. Uh you know, you know, a classic. 416 00:27:52.000 --> 00:27:53.440 You know that you can see it, you can see on television stuff. 417 00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:57.200 But you know, the fun of it though, I think it was 418 00:27:57.279 --> 00:28:00.640 just the trips were easy from the standpoint that you knew what you're doing. 419 00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:03.519 You're good. You can go to the Bay Area, you're going to play 420 00:28:03.519 --> 00:28:04.839 those two teams. You're gonna go to l A. You're gonna play those 421 00:28:04.839 --> 00:28:07.680 two teams. You go to or you know, And that was and the 422 00:28:07.720 --> 00:28:11.680 way I'm not sure how that's gonna work in the Big Twelve. But certainly 423 00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:15.880 it had some I'm trying to think of the right word, but there was 424 00:28:15.920 --> 00:28:19.240 sort of some order to right that, there was an order to have these 425 00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:22.920 these these series went. Even after they added Utah and Colorado, you still 426 00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:29.119 had this symmetry to to what the what the what the basketball season was like, 427 00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:30.920 and that just was it was just fun. It was easy for us 428 00:28:30.960 --> 00:28:34.839 to handle. You just knew Thursday and Saturday be ready for for an Aresona, 429 00:28:36.160 --> 00:28:40.680 a Pac twelve game on the roads. You could drive, you could 430 00:28:40.759 --> 00:28:45.160 drive, and it was always Thursday and Saturday. I looked up the Big 431 00:28:45.200 --> 00:28:51.759 Twelve schedules the other day and nobody has like a back to back road games 432 00:28:51.960 --> 00:28:55.279 against comfy teams where you can drive to the next game, because there's nowhere 433 00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:59.079 you can drive to the next game except KANDAS and Kansas State, Right, 434 00:28:59.720 --> 00:29:03.799 But uh yeah, all that stuff, the symmetry is lost and the I 435 00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:06.440 mean, I mean you could see it. Comedy knew what was coming. 436 00:29:06.519 --> 00:29:11.079 Now it's just going to be uh here, there and everywhere. I'm sure 437 00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:14.960 you won't miss driving the pullman or you know people now driving the pullman taking 438 00:29:15.039 --> 00:29:18.480 the wrong turn and going into Idaho and there's snow driven you know, snow 439 00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:25.480 driven roads. Remember those days, those midnight drives back to Spokane in the 440 00:29:25.519 --> 00:29:30.839 fog. I think every single reporter that I remember from like the mid eighties 441 00:29:30.880 --> 00:29:34.920 to five years ago got a speeding every single one. Right now. I 442 00:29:36.240 --> 00:29:37.519 didn't cause that. One of the times that I drove, I didn't go 443 00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:41.880 over fifteen miles an hour snow because the roads were comfortable. I told you, 444 00:29:41.920 --> 00:29:45.599 I called my wife at like three in the morning, my wife at 445 00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:47.920 the time. If I don't make it home, it's because I'm stuck in 446 00:29:47.960 --> 00:29:51.960 a ditch. The time that I drove, I every time I saw a 447 00:29:52.119 --> 00:29:56.640 light that was a house on the Saturday, I marked the on the on 448 00:29:56.720 --> 00:29:59.680 the odometer where that was, so that I knew how far back I had 449 00:29:59.720 --> 00:30:00.920 to watch if I went off the run. I guarantee you didn't have a 450 00:30:00.960 --> 00:30:03.559 cell phone back then. No, no phone, no good. Yeah. 451 00:30:03.599 --> 00:30:15.160 That was the nineteen eighty eight season. And my favorite Washing Estate story was 452 00:30:15.480 --> 00:30:19.920 John Wilner was the center of it Arizona one one, fourteen eleven in double 453 00:30:19.920 --> 00:30:25.559 overtimes. Yeah, yeah, And it was midnight and the deadline of the 454 00:30:25.559 --> 00:30:29.519 Star was like eleven and they were like out of the movies. They were 455 00:30:29.519 --> 00:30:33.960 holding the presses for our stories, and John Wilner was our beat writer, 456 00:30:33.279 --> 00:30:37.880 just a terrific beat writer. And the only place you could send your stories 457 00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:41.960 there was in that tiny little room where the cheerleaders got dressed and prepared for 458 00:30:42.039 --> 00:30:45.799 the game. So Willer and I sprint up the tunnel, go to that 459 00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:49.839 little room. There's only one phone in there and some guys in there talking 460 00:30:49.880 --> 00:30:56.039 to his girlfriend on it, and Wiler like went one, two, three, 461 00:30:56.160 --> 00:31:00.160 get off that, keep them phone, and the guy just dropped the 462 00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:04.319 phone ran out of the Yeah, nineteen ninety five. I remember that there 463 00:31:04.400 --> 00:31:07.880 was something that was helped by something happened in the crowd. I think they 464 00:31:07.160 --> 00:31:11.200 threw a penny or two or whatever on the court. They got a technical 465 00:31:11.240 --> 00:31:14.920 and Arizona was able to win that game. That's right, it almost had 466 00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:17.640 it, almost, said Bobby Olten. No, no, no, that 467 00:31:17.680 --> 00:31:19.680 was that was the That was the Salt Shaker game. That was a different 468 00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:25.359 game. And then what I think it was Kaldil who put off the reward 469 00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:27.519 for to get the guy and they finally got the guy. Aside from Walt 470 00:31:27.559 --> 00:31:30.839 Hazzard, who was your favorite coach in the PAC twelve or Pac ten during 471 00:31:32.000 --> 00:31:36.400 during all this time, because I know what was your favorite. I love 472 00:31:36.519 --> 00:31:40.799 Jim Harritt because I got to know him at Utah State and he would always 473 00:31:41.279 --> 00:31:42.119 you know, I could go in their locker room and he would tell me 474 00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:47.720 stuff by myself, and he was like one of the nicest, most professional 475 00:31:47.759 --> 00:31:51.720 guys ever. And I hated to see him get fired. He was the 476 00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:55.960 year after won the national title. Yeah, receipts, I mean receipts, 477 00:31:56.200 --> 00:32:00.319 Yeah, they were. I mean they had players when he was there. 478 00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:02.279 Right, he's a good old boy too. And then there was Mike Montgomery. 479 00:32:02.359 --> 00:32:06.839 Right, he was everybody everybody's favorite, right. Montgomery called you by 480 00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:10.000 your first name. He knew you. He appreciated the coverage because the Bear 481 00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:15.400 didn't cover Stanford, because they covered the forty nine ers and the Warriors and 482 00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:20.640 everything. And I mean he loved the Tucson guys. He there was no 483 00:32:20.759 --> 00:32:24.279 better one two combination with him and Luton. Those games were, Those games 484 00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:30.799 were fantastic. He was. He didn't get the national credit he deserved through 485 00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:36.839 all those years because because fifteen years from about ninety eighty eight to two thousand 486 00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:39.319 and three, Stanford was as good as any program, right, and they 487 00:32:39.319 --> 00:32:42.960 got to the finals in ninety eight when Arizona should have been in the final. 488 00:32:43.039 --> 00:32:45.839 Yeah, okay, the biggest character, and by that I mean just 489 00:32:45.000 --> 00:32:49.079 kind of a whack job that but in a good way, you know, 490 00:32:49.160 --> 00:32:52.240 not somebody you know. Again, we're going to refer back to Walt Hazard, 491 00:32:52.279 --> 00:32:59.359 who was just like there you go. Yeah, Steve and I were 492 00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:01.480 sent his off. He took us out to launch. Yeah, he was 493 00:33:01.559 --> 00:33:07.640 fantastic. Can you imagine trying it now to go to the basketball office as 494 00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:12.079 a packed twelve coach. Someone would tasi you, yeah, you need you. 495 00:33:12.440 --> 00:33:15.160 You had like the in your thumb when the sun princess get to the 496 00:33:15.200 --> 00:33:19.920 door, get to the door, the face resignation recognition from whatever that den 497 00:33:19.960 --> 00:33:24.359 were to get through the other door. Raveling had copies of the Daily Star 498 00:33:24.440 --> 00:33:29.319 and Citizen in his office all the time. Yeah. He said it was 499 00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:31.680 the best covered team in the country because we had everything covered. Yeah. 500 00:33:31.759 --> 00:33:36.200 Yeah, when he came to down to do TV stuff, Yeah, that 501 00:33:36.279 --> 00:33:38.559 was that's another one. Don Monson, I mean, I don't know why 502 00:33:38.599 --> 00:33:42.680 his name came up to me, just you know, at or again and 503 00:33:42.799 --> 00:33:45.839 just again, just a guy who didn't look like a basketball coach, right, 504 00:33:47.160 --> 00:33:51.119 and he thought he was going to be the you get the job the 505 00:33:51.200 --> 00:33:55.400 Lootcott remember that. Yeah, he had coached Idaho to a record season and 506 00:33:55.400 --> 00:34:00.799 and he he himself put his name out there and certaintilated and everybody thought Monton 507 00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:06.079 would be arizonas coach. As it turns out, Cedric Denson didn't even interview 508 00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:08.639 him. But he was a character. He wasn't the duck. Weren't good 509 00:34:08.679 --> 00:34:13.000 at all when he was there, but he was a nice guy. You 510 00:34:13.039 --> 00:34:15.039 could talk to him at any time. Yeah, what, let me give 511 00:34:15.039 --> 00:34:20.840 you this last question to us for me issue issue What it was the biggest 512 00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:27.840 hold hold back for them not being halfway credible and basketball because when they fired 513 00:34:27.920 --> 00:34:34.639 Ned Wolke, they hired Bob wine Hour from ten who never really messed there 514 00:34:34.679 --> 00:34:37.800 and quit and got fired after like three years. And then instead of going 515 00:34:37.800 --> 00:34:44.559 on getting someone to match Loot, they promoted Steve Patterson his assistant remember that. 516 00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:51.280 Yeah, just another guy and they had like five dreadful seasons under Steve 517 00:34:51.320 --> 00:34:58.880 Patterson before they hired Frieder Frieder Oh, and talk about the all time character 518 00:34:58.920 --> 00:35:01.320 in the league. He just couldn't get over the hump he got coldest, 519 00:35:01.920 --> 00:35:07.800 he just couldn't do it, and as you kind of flatlined ever since. 520 00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:14.800 Okay, okay, we're not even talking about football yet exactly. Let me 521 00:35:14.880 --> 00:35:16.400 give you. I'll give you one, Jay Ja. I don't know what 522 00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:20.480 he's doing today, but I don't know what he's thinking today. I will 523 00:35:20.599 --> 00:35:22.599 leave it at that. I'm calling ten wins, Greg, ten wins. 524 00:35:22.599 --> 00:35:30.000 Bears on it when and thank you, thank you for biking my point. 525 00:35:31.000 --> 00:35:35.440 Right, they win there, they win for they win their last four games. 526 00:35:36.280 --> 00:35:39.840 Oh can you imagine how difficult the Utah game is going to be here? 527 00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:45.119 Of course it is. I think Arizona can win it. Well, 528 00:35:45.119 --> 00:35:50.280 I'm impressed. I'm as impressed as anybody with with their growth and their just 529 00:35:50.360 --> 00:35:55.679 sounds unbelievable that just they're polished almost, I mean their sound. They're good 530 00:35:55.679 --> 00:36:00.280 in every department. Jet fish out smart, how smart at Chip Keel all 531 00:36:00.360 --> 00:36:05.679 day? Yeah, as he did with the Oregon State. I mean, 532 00:36:06.239 --> 00:36:09.760 he learned so much under all those NFL coaches and the top coaches he played 533 00:36:09.760 --> 00:36:14.480 for. He might he just absorbed that stuff and now it's working here. 534 00:36:14.719 --> 00:36:16.559 Yeah yeah, who thought? Who would have thought it? But here we 535 00:36:16.599 --> 00:36:22.880 are? Here, we are Jay saying ten games. Thanks to win ten 536 00:36:22.960 --> 00:36:28.320 games, they're still not going to get to the Rose Bowl. Man, 537 00:36:28.400 --> 00:36:30.400 Really, you had to throw that out there. With that, we'll say 538 00:36:30.400 --> 00:36:35.199 goodbye. Yeah. Thanks, I'm gonna kick you in the shin next time 539 00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:40.480 I see it because you can't raise his foot. Thanks, Greg, appreciate 540 00:36:40.519 --> 00:36:45.599 it. Thanks, see you guys, Thank you recognition. I can finally 541 00:36:45.639 --> 00:36:47.760 say face. Yes, Okay, let's go. We have a little time, 542 00:36:47.920 --> 00:36:50.960 maybe get some calls. Yep, the good show today. Yeah, 543 00:36:50.960 --> 00:36:52.719 five, two, zero, four, one, six, seventy four, 544 00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:54.239 forty. We've got a few more jet fish clips that we can play for 545 00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:58.679 you for his press conference today. So come on, come on back for 546 00:36:58.719 --> 00:37:13.280 both, going to build the world away for a minute, pretend not don't 547 00:37:13.360 --> 00:37:19.639 live in sunshine, going and watch my blues away. 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The A team apply online today at a teamsecurity dot Net. 598 00:40:54.079 --> 00:41:00.760 Steve Rivera and jaygn Salez they have their eye on the ball on Tucson 599 00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:06.880 Sports Chef Fox Sports fourteen fifty streaming live. I mean I heard radio while 600 00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:09.840 Hey, welcome back to Why in the Ball Hero, Fox Sports fourteen fifty 601 00:41:09.840 --> 00:41:14.880 on Steve, He's Jay got Sammy, We got ten minutes. If you 602 00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:15.719 guys want to call, please do. It's been a lot of fun, 603 00:41:15.800 --> 00:41:21.880 good show today. Surprisingly, what's that wee week? Does that mean? 604 00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:23.639 You know? We we you know we can do this. We can do 605 00:41:23.679 --> 00:41:27.800 it sometimes, you know, say this one. This is a good one. 606 00:41:27.800 --> 00:41:30.800 You know we had Greg Hanson going down memory lane with some Pac twelve 607 00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:34.760 basketball history. So hey, we've got a caller. Let's take this. 608 00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:38.760 Hi are on the air and I on the ball. Don't screw up the 609 00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:42.840 show, Nico. But what do you go? Hey? Man, I 610 00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:46.559 learned a lot about you, Steve Good Good? What did you learn when? 611 00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:51.679 Aymen? I understand why it's so grumpy now man Jay gave me the 612 00:41:52.880 --> 00:41:55.199 ask him who went We'll talk in another time. We'll talk. Go ahead. 613 00:41:55.880 --> 00:41:59.719 I missed you because I went to his his thing just for le Co. 614 00:42:00.239 --> 00:42:02.480 It's like two minutes. I met him in the stadium. Yeah. 615 00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:06.400 So I faced up Nico and told him that I told you and your dad 616 00:42:06.400 --> 00:42:08.880 that Arizona was not going to win Saturday night. Hey, I'm glad you 617 00:42:08.880 --> 00:42:16.719 were wrong when it's been right. Hey, he has his moments, slight 618 00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:22.039 squirrel. Hey though about the game? All right, girl, I know 619 00:42:22.159 --> 00:42:24.480 Gabriel was happy about the crowd, but I was disappointed me too. I 620 00:42:24.599 --> 00:42:28.360 was to me too. There was not fifty thousand. No, it was 621 00:42:28.440 --> 00:42:32.320 under forty five. Yeah right if that Now. They did stick around, 622 00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:36.280 which was cool. I tweeted that, but you know, but yeah, 623 00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:40.559 I'm like, I'm I'm highly disappointed, but not surprised about the crowds because 624 00:42:42.199 --> 00:42:45.000 this is Arizona. Yeah, it was home day. Even I stick around 625 00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:47.039 to the end of the game. Yeah, No, it was good. 626 00:42:47.079 --> 00:42:50.920 I thought it was impressive. I tweeted about it because the students were there 627 00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:52.760 all gay yea, they wanted to rush the field, That's what they wanted. 628 00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:55.960 The course they do. But no, I agree with you, Nico. 629 00:42:57.719 --> 00:43:00.960 They got to get over that. Eventually agreed to do that last week. 630 00:43:01.639 --> 00:43:04.400 They will you know, I think if you beat you, Todd, 631 00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:07.280 they won't rush the field. I don't know they will. Yeah, they 632 00:43:07.280 --> 00:43:12.840 probably will for sure. I was hoping they weren't going to on Saturday, 633 00:43:12.840 --> 00:43:16.079 but then I thought, you know what Bowl clinching you know whin Yeah, 634 00:43:16.079 --> 00:43:21.320 they're gonna They're gonna come and they all right, and I'll leave you guys 635 00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:25.400 on this man, Steve the Cards are going to win this weekend, so 636 00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:30.440 they play who the Falcons at home? Kyler? Okay, if they win, 637 00:43:30.480 --> 00:43:35.079 I'll buy you lunch. Well, I want to go to Hooters. 638 00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:37.840 That's fine. I haven't been there since I was your age. Shock not 639 00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:42.280 shocked. Shocked not shocked. No, that's the deal. Deal. If 640 00:43:42.280 --> 00:43:47.639 they win articularly well Cam coming to though, that's right, whatever, But 641 00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:52.400 we might have to go to Tens though. They got a nice lunch we 642 00:43:52.639 --> 00:44:00.360 Tooters, Ok, all right, I like you come out even know what 643 00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:05.360 you know? I run into those guys. They must come from the other 644 00:44:05.400 --> 00:44:07.000 direction because we cross paths. Oh yeah, you know, they go sit 645 00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:09.679 on the we sit on opposite sides of the stadium. We always running into 646 00:44:09.719 --> 00:44:14.519 them at the same place, the snack bar right there in the north west 647 00:44:14.519 --> 00:44:17.920 corner. So anyway, but I did. I did tell me who Arizona 648 00:44:17.960 --> 00:44:21.639 was not. I didn't know. I was grumpy. You are, No, 649 00:44:21.719 --> 00:44:23.719 I'm realistic. You guys are just like crumpy. The world is so 650 00:44:23.880 --> 00:44:30.239 happy. That's not all happy. That's grumpy. All right. I want 651 00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:32.079 to ask you. Go ahead, good, you know what are you gonna 652 00:44:32.079 --> 00:44:35.320 say? No, I have to ask. I have to figure oh oh, 653 00:44:35.360 --> 00:44:37.519 oh, okay, the play Colorado, right right? The darling or 654 00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:43.400 the football season for the first month maybe right, yeah, not anymore, 655 00:44:43.519 --> 00:44:45.920 not anymore. But do you know who's a better story? You know, 656 00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:50.960 Arizona, and it's been a better story, but no one pays attention. 657 00:44:51.000 --> 00:44:52.480 And that was sort of written in the in one of the one of the 658 00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:58.280 capsules I saw in Arizona in the being in the top twenty five, just 659 00:44:58.320 --> 00:45:00.239 saying that, you know, while everybody's been talking about, you know, 660 00:45:01.400 --> 00:45:06.239 Colorado in the in the Pac twelve, Arizona has built this, has done 661 00:45:06.280 --> 00:45:07.840 this stuff. And then yes, you know, out of nowhere, Yes, 662 00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:12.119 let's take this call. Hi are on the air and eye on the 663 00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:15.679 ball. Hey, James, Steve, this is this is Mobo Phil, 664 00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:20.719 Hey Lobo, what's up? You guys? Do it good? They're horrible, 665 00:45:20.760 --> 00:45:25.079 But go ahead to stop and Steve is he's grumpy? Right, isn't 666 00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:30.239 he grumpy? He's grumpy? Hey, I have a question for you guys. 667 00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:35.280 Sure, okay, So, first of all, I want to say 668 00:45:35.519 --> 00:45:38.360 I was skeptical at the beginning with just Fish. I didn't really steep that 669 00:45:38.360 --> 00:45:43.400 he's gonna turn around the Wildcats. But he's done an amazing job. I 670 00:45:43.519 --> 00:45:46.599 just he's done. I mean a remarkable job of what he was given into 671 00:45:46.639 --> 00:45:51.280 where they are now. I mean, just amazing job. Wouldn't you say, 672 00:45:51.559 --> 00:45:53.599 without question, without question? I think you hear that from everybody. 673 00:45:53.639 --> 00:45:58.920 Yeah, you know, people, I think. So the question I have 674 00:45:59.039 --> 00:46:02.440 for you guys, what's going to become a Jetfish? Is he gonna end 675 00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:07.360 up being a lifer like Lute Olson in State or is he gonna go off 676 00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:12.679 to another program give more money, a bigger program than you vedas. That's 677 00:46:12.719 --> 00:46:15.800 a rhetorical question, right. You already know the answer to that. Yeah, 678 00:46:15.840 --> 00:46:20.440 he's gonna leave, right, It's just a matter of when. Yeah, 679 00:46:20.480 --> 00:46:22.639 you know, I think ultimately he will. And people, you know, 680 00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:23.559 there's people saying, oh, you know, we gotta do what we 681 00:46:23.599 --> 00:46:27.840 can and keep him. Look, Arizona's not the place. Lute Olson was 682 00:46:27.840 --> 00:46:30.519 the exception, right, Arizona and pretending with Arizona football, it's not the 683 00:46:30.519 --> 00:46:35.360 place where people come and become lifers. We and we as Arizona fans, 684 00:46:35.519 --> 00:46:40.039 have to accept that. Yeah, yeah, I agree. I just I 685 00:46:40.079 --> 00:46:44.599 wish you would stay because I think that's that's such a great story of what 686 00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:49.360 happened with Arizona football with Jets. But it's just it's it's wishing for something 687 00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:53.679 that I probably occur. So philm On, mister lobil film. I told 688 00:46:53.719 --> 00:47:00.519 this to uh to uh Gabe, enjoy the moment, maybe because they may 689 00:47:00.519 --> 00:47:01.800 not come along. And by the way, do you remember you see that 690 00:47:01.880 --> 00:47:06.719 Gary Coulson passed away last week? Yes? They did. Yeah, yeah, 691 00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:08.760 he did great things smith the Lobos. He got him out of the 692 00:47:09.360 --> 00:47:14.519 cellar and the the hell that it was and he brought him back to live 693 00:47:14.639 --> 00:47:21.840 so and then and then got fired. Okay they get fire. Yeah, 694 00:47:22.719 --> 00:47:25.840 Hey, just real quick, you guys gotta gotta pay this to Lobo basketball. 695 00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:29.039 This year. I think they might be pretty good. Yeah, there 696 00:47:29.159 --> 00:47:32.480 was. That's why I saw the only be Highlands by ten. But that's 697 00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:39.320 why I saw somebody somebody had new Mexico in the final four. Who's I 698 00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:43.119 don't remember who it was. I saw it. That's the one that when 699 00:47:43.119 --> 00:47:46.440 we said crazy in Mexico, I saw create. But I saw New Mexico 700 00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:52.199 in the final court. A projection that is so that that's crazy. But 701 00:47:52.480 --> 00:47:55.320 I think they will go to this double A tournament this year. Okay, 702 00:47:55.440 --> 00:48:02.639 down, write that down? Associated how guph he is? Phil? I 703 00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:07.440 bet you, Steve. I'll bet you're fifty bucks. Oh no, no, 704 00:48:07.440 --> 00:48:08.519 that's an easy fifty bunch for you. But I bet you they won't 705 00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:15.440 get to the second round. I just say that I did. I did. 706 00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:20.719 Hey, hey, real quick, I gotta go, Steve. Great 707 00:48:20.840 --> 00:48:22.519 great book. I enjoyed your book. Thank you, thank you very much. 708 00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:25.159 Fun read, thank you very much. Appreciate it, all right, 709 00:48:25.159 --> 00:48:30.280 thanks, Phil, appreciate it. Uh yeah. Jamal Baker's playing there. 710 00:48:30.760 --> 00:48:34.320 Yeah yeah, okay, that's a good question though with the whole jed thing. 711 00:48:35.000 --> 00:48:37.840 Yeah, it's it's inevitable, right right, you know. And the 712 00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:42.840 thing is though that I think I think he goes straight to the NFL from 713 00:48:42.840 --> 00:48:46.159 here because he's got the he's got to connect, because he's right and he's 714 00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:51.119 and he's running his program like an NFL program. He's running an NFL offense, 715 00:48:51.159 --> 00:48:53.840 probably an NFL defense. Good point. I think, unlike some other 716 00:48:54.079 --> 00:48:58.440 coaches who have made the jump and not done very well, Jed knows the 717 00:48:58.519 --> 00:49:00.800 NFL. Yeah. I think ultimately we will see him in the NF. 718 00:49:01.599 --> 00:49:07.360 I think he I think he enjoys the college scenes much because I feel like 719 00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:09.519 if he went to uh not to say these jobs are open or anything, 720 00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:15.840 but like a Florida or Tennessee or a high level like Texas Oklahoma, he 721 00:49:15.840 --> 00:49:19.440 would love that. Yeah, that's what he tries to replicate here with going 722 00:49:19.480 --> 00:49:23.000 into try and get. He makes no bones about that. Again, Arizona 723 00:49:23.039 --> 00:49:25.440 is just part of his plan. It's not deep playing. We're gonna know 724 00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:29.679 the call. God, go to the call a minute real quick. Hi, 725 00:49:29.760 --> 00:49:32.280 you're on the ar and I on the ball. Hey Jay, this 726 00:49:32.440 --> 00:49:35.400 is done. How are you doing? Hey? Don We only got about 727 00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:42.400 a minute. Okay, okay, Arizona can can by all means win ten 728 00:49:42.480 --> 00:49:46.440 games this year. How much is the reason for that, Sagan? How 729 00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:51.199 much did he pay you to call? No, he didn't pay me to 730 00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:54.760 call because I was thinking I've been thinking the same thing since the USC game. 731 00:49:54.800 --> 00:49:58.599 I said, there is no game there. There will be no game 732 00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:02.559 that the team will be out of the rest of the season. And and 733 00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:08.119 and the thing is now three games after that Arizona plays, So what football, 734 00:50:08.559 --> 00:50:12.360 They don't care what you do. We're gonna do what we do. 735 00:50:13.599 --> 00:50:16.599 I like that. I like it. And the and the big thing is 736 00:50:16.599 --> 00:50:21.519 is they had this stout defense. And it was a third and six in 737 00:50:21.559 --> 00:50:23.199 the middle, late third quarter, third and six, What are you going 738 00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:27.400 to do? They run Jonah Coleman for eight or nine yards in a first 739 00:50:27.400 --> 00:50:32.360 down. Good yeah, that that that took. That was taking their heart 740 00:50:32.440 --> 00:50:37.960 from him and showing it to them. So look, this is what we're 741 00:50:37.000 --> 00:50:40.239 going to do the rest of the night. Try and stop us. Yea. 742 00:50:40.480 --> 00:50:45.519 And Arizona has not upset a single one of these teams, not a 743 00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:50.480 one of them. Wasn't upset. All right, Don all right, don 744 00:50:50.559 --> 00:50:52.760 completely agree with you, Thanks for being on my side. And doell grumpy 745 00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:58.679 Steve, what's what hey? Except for the cheating thing in Michigan. Yeah, 746 00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:06.920 stop busta things. All right, we gotta hit the road. Hey, 747 00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:09.159 we've got a basketball game. Eight thirty two points? Would you take 748 00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:14.480 them to? Yeah? Give me the Cats seriously, thirty two is a 749 00:51:14.519 --> 00:51:15.960 lot. I got a bunch of you guys that are going to score another 750 00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:20.480 season. They are gonna win. Okay, all right, we'll see you 751 00:51:20.760 --> 00:51:23.920 at the at the arena tonight and we'll be back tomorrow to uh talk about 752 00:51:23.920 --> 00:51:27.440 it. Yeah, we do have a short week, that's right. We're 753 00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:30.280 off on Friday. So for everybody else, see make your plans to do 754 00:51:30.360 --> 00:51:37.800 something constructive on Friday afternoon. All right, we'll be back tomorrow. Yeah, 755 00:51:37.800 --> 00:51:39.360 I've been working all week and I'm tying to know on the sleeping I 756 00:51:39.440 --> 00:51:45.599 want to have ONNS time for a good time, digging the ground, beer 757 00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:50.320 on ice. Just let go Hank and tell us about saying along we see 758 00:51:50.360 --> 00:51:52.559 the songs Friday friends, all that long.