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Well, welcome here, bones,
you're good day, Welcome to the Gray

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Cup. We are alive here.
Hopefully the audio works let me know we

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have anything if anyone can't hear,
if it sounds weird running this off,

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We are alive here at the BC
Lions End. Evan, Jason, how

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are you guys? Jason, how's
the Evan? What's going on? Oh?

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Not too much? Really excited for
the really excited for the Great Cup.

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Not you stole in the bike,
but yeah, really excited to be

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here in Hamilton. And yeah,
Evan, how's it going. Made it

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that late last night? Yeah,
doing very well, honestly, just glad

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to be here. There was a
minute where I thought it might not be

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happening, but we're here doing the
show now, getting ready for Great Cup

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tomorrow and very exciting time. Yeah, so we are live here, Today's

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Saturday at the BC Lions Den.
I'm adjusting my microphone a little bit here,

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running on the fly, Gonna have
a huge lay of guest. We're

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gonna do it intro. We got
Jamie and I standing by Dorothy's running the

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floor. We got a people shift
in slide in you know how it is.

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But we'll have lots of guests today
two hours here coming up. First

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off, Jason, Obviously we had
Hamilton Great Cup two years ago, a

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little different than now. What's it
like here? We're on the floor,

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We're here, they got the Schooner
band playing everything else. What's it being

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like on the floor here? Well, it's night and day compared to what

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it was in twenty twenty one,
because twenty twenty one was a very skilled

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back Great Cup. Obviously you had
a lot of COVID protocol still in place.

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So ultimately, at the end of
the day, it wasn't the Great

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Cup that Hamilton really envisioned. But
this year they've been able to really pull

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at all the stops and you know, they have a lot of events going

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on throughout the city. Evan,
what's it like we're walking around today downtown

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where convention stand are pretty buzz and
what do you make of it? Yeah?

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I think Hamilton's great. You know, it's a pretty cozy city.

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You know, I didn't really know
what to expect. I've never been out

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to this part of Canada before,
really only been to Vancouver. But it's

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a pleasant surprise so far. And
the weather's also been great, which I

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wasn't totally anticipating, so enjoying that
as well. Yeah, it's been beautiful,

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really surprise. You're just looking to
see if I'm getting a DMS from

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guests. Really beautiful. We want
to get into the game here before we

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get everyone else in exciting. I
know this isn't kind of the Great Cup.

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Maybe we thought we wanted coming in, but obviously here with Montreal the

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big upset. Jason first thoughts to
you, what are you looking for?

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And then we did the previous show
on Monday or Tuesday whenever that was,

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But what are you making of the
actual game here? I think all eyes

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have to be on Winnipeg's offense versus
Montreal's defense, because I mean, I've

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really seen too much from the Montreal
offense to believe that they can win,

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you know, a shootout type game
this year. And if Winnipeg's offense goods

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rolling, I don't think that Montreal
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But I think Montfreal's defense is playing
so well right now. If they

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can replicate what they did against Toronto
last week and ultimately forced turnovers, I

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think they can, you know,
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On Sunday. It's so funny.
We were talking in breakfast before every Winnipeg

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reporter this year. Oh, there's
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this game. Obviously. We have
the Montreal guys, they feel this,

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you know, but I think both
sides feel pretty confident right now. I

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don't know. I think Toronto came
in last year maybe with more. I

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feel like Montreal has more questions this
year coming in than Toronto did. Evan,

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what do you make of this,
like from a football perspective. Yeah,

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Well, one of the things that
I've really been focused on here is,

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you know, while this is Winnipeg's
fourth straight Great Cup, there are

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no strangers here. They've got a
lot of guys that are getting older.

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I mean, just going down the
list, you've got Zach Klaros, you

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know, who's thirty five, Stanley
Bryant, who's thirty seven, JaMarcus Hardrick,

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who's thirty three. You know,
was a finalist for Most Outstanding Lineman,

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Willie Jefferson, Jackson Jeff Coat both
thirty two, and then Adam big

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Hill, who you know may or
may not play in this game, is

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thirty five. I'm still a very
pivotal player there in Winnipeg. So you

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know, this team's getting even though
they've been here many times and they've obviously,

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you know, won twice out of
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they if they don't get this one, you know, there might be some

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significant change. And obviously still a
lot of good players, you know that

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they recruit very well. Shout out
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the front office. But yeah,
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this definitely feels like you know,
almost not not end of a run,

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but you know, it's it's not
youthful anymore. It's weird in terms of

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the Montreal side of it. And
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former owner here over the weekend following
that really weird Montreal's trajectory this year,

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and it seems like they never stopped
at working and acquiring talent right during the

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offseason. Jason, is that kind
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they they've kind of continued to ascend
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saw the bizarren this is with Toronto
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like Montreal is peaking at the right
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they've won six or seven games in
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they're arguably the most hot team in
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here. But I think, yeah, at the end of the day,

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they were kind of behind the eight
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ownership situation being up in the air, but ultimately they got that straightened out.

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I think that they made a lot
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always say that on my channel that
the quarterback situation could have ended up so

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much worse for them, given that
Trevor Harris left during a free agency this

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year. So I think that Cody
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Alouettes in that regard, and Jason
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Just tremendous year. I mean,
Evan and we've talked about this for

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weeks. This could have been a
disaster of a season from Montreal coming in

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and obviously you have the ownership change. And it was funny we were at

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Randy Ambrosi's public address yesterday to the
fans and he's talking about how Pierre came

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in and bought the team. I
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in your first year here? A
lot to go down from there, kind

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of a high rise. But I
really just incredible how Montreal has has really

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defied the odds this season. Absolutely. I mean, I think the expectations

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were pretty low and the one consistent
criticism that they weren't able to overcome during

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the season was, you know,
they were unable to beat what would be

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considered the upper echelon of teams in
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the Winnipeg's, the BC's, you
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they came into the playoffs, even
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you know, there was a lot
of doubt, you know, just given

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again their flow of the season.
But they've proved everybody wrong so far.

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You know. Offense, you know, still has some work to do.

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We can get into that, but
the defense has just been incredible, you

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know, and I'm really excited to
see that unit in person this weekend or

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tomorrow. I should say, yeah, I want and I want to talk

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more kind of broad rangeing CFL and
we'll get a lot of guests in,

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but I want to make sure we
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we kind of spiral the rest of
this today. Jason, you said it

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breakfast. You want just a good
game? Is that enough? What are

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you actually expecting here between these teams. I'm expecting a low scoring game between

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these two teams because, as I
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for this game, they are the
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season, So I'm very much excited
to see which defense really shows up to

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play in this one. Also the
top two pass defenses in the CFL this

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season, so it'll be interesting to
see which offense really gets going in this

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game. It's been interesting to me, and I was having a conversation last

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night with a lot of the Winnipeg
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about the importance of Winnipeg here winning
and really cementinging Caleras and Mike O'Shea and

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all of that, and you know
what that would mean to go to three,

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you know, within three great cuts
right four years kind of all that

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stuff versus kind of the flukey upset
kind of underdog stories. Montrell, is

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there one that's more appealing to you
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you know, because Winnipeg has gone
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I've already pointed out, they won
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last year in a very tight contest, and then this year. You know,

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even though again it's their fourth straight, it's still a big year.

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Like I've pointed out, some of
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you know, and and well,
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But I think, yeah, I
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know, if Winnipeg wins the game, I think a lot of people will

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you know, come out and say, well that was expected. You know,

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they're just a better team all around, better roster. You could argue,

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better coaching to a degree. I
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you know, he was this is
the first year coaching, right, so

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you know, but if Montreal wins, then yeah, Winnipeg loses back to

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back Great Cups. That's gonna raise
some eyes. You know, is the

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team getting too older? You're gonna
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think those are all things to consider. Yeah, what do you need the

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window here, Jason for Winnipeg,
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one or two more years left.
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these guys, especially in the trenches, are getting older. For them.

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You think about the offensive line,
left tackle, right tackle, they're both

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over thirty three, thirty four years
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six or something like, yeah,
thirty seven. So you know, these

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guys are getting older at like premium
positions. So I mean, they'll still

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have Zach Klaris for I think the
next five or so years. But I

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think that at the end of the
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to deteriorate, and if you know, Willie Jefferson and Jackson jeff Coat aren't

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getting after the quarterback as much as
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could see a really big decline team. Is my boy Cody Pijar was seeing

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trouble tomorrow? Evan like, is
he? I'm I'm worried for Cody a

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little bit here. Well, it's
a good question. I mean, again,

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I've talked about, you know,
Willie Jefferson being one of my favorite

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players in the CFL with his length
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affected Vernon Adams in that West Final. You know, he couldn't get the

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ball out and yeah, I definitely
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the Montreal's offense I think is the
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You know, on all sides of
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in trouble. I don't know.
He's been a very good game manager this

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year, but he really needs to
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this game, There's no doubt.
And I think a lot of those big

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plays you know, are gonna have
to go to Austin Mack, who you

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know, really roast to the top
this year, you know from Ohio statement

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with a couple of NFL teams,
but really roasted the top quickly. And

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that's gonna have to be his guy
in this one. They're gonna have to,

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you know, get it going early, because I was saying this morning

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at breakfast, you know, once
Clario's gets rolling in that offense, I

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mean, even if they might be
down Dalton shown, you've still got Kenny

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Lawler, You've still got Rashid Bailey
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out there and they can make that
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quick. It's a frightening offense.
Matt's got a question here, can the

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Ales keep it within ten points,
and then everyone wants to know what's Green

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Day and the open We we'll get
to that, but we can the Oles

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keep I mean I want Montreal.
I mean this is a pro Montreal Aloletts.

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This is a pro Cody p Jar
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that they're even gonna keep it closer? I think it'll be a close game.

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Like I said, I think it
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have seen some major upsets in the
Great Cup Game in the last ten years.

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Even you look at even last year
was a pretty big upset considering what

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Winnipeg went into that game with.
You think about Oudawall playing against Calgary in

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twenty sixteen. Oudawa was an eight
nine and one team and they beat the

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fifteen too and one Stampeders. So
anything can happen in the Great Cup Game,

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as history shows. Jenna checking in
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Let's talk about this. We have
a question out Santsky. I don't

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understand why the CFL has to push
Austin Mack because of the Ohio State University

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aspect of it. We talked to
Austin Mack all season. Do you think

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the CFL needs to be doing more
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I mean, you know, he
came from a big school, right,

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but at the end of the day, he still has to come up here

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and make a name for himself,
right. I Mean one of the misconceptions

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sometimes in the CFL games that you
have these Americans that come up from big

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schools, you know, and they
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spot. Keep in mind, you
know, Austin Mack, no one really

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expected this from him. You know, he was pretty low in that Montreal

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depth chart. You know. Again, there just wasn't a lot of expectations.

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So I think they've done a decent
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he's done very well this season.
I've talked about him at nauseum,

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so I'm trying not to talk about
him too much here. But yeah,

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you know, he's a great player, and hopefully he can continue to do

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great things in Montreal, whether they
win the Great Cup tomorrow or not.

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Jason, any other thoughts on the
game itself. We'll bring Jamie in here,

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I see him standing by anything else
on the game itself, We'll circle

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back here throughout some other staff anything
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to. Yeah, I think injuries
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this game, or not looking forward
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this game. Because Montreal very healthy, like barely anybody on the injury report

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for them, everybody was practicing this
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of key guys probably out for this
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were talking about before we got on
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game. Dalton Shown probably not gonna
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week in the West Finals. So
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I think you're gonna see Montreal try
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with the Ron Williams standback. Would
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not being there in the middle.
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ball, Shown's out. I think, you know, Kenny Lawler is gonna

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have to play a big role like
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but you know, talking here this
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in the BC win last week,
where you know, I want to get

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into the Chad Kelly concussion syndrome of
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But you know, Evan here where
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feels like a lot of scheme role
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but it feels like Montreal's got a
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you know I'm gonna use this time. So we've talked about Darnell Sank,

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you, Sean Lemon, you know, these high impact players that monts

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really given them a boost here in
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Montreal defenders that I want to talk
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can look out for tomorrow in the
game if you're watching the show. Kabion

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Ento, who played four seasons with
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CFL player, he played receiver at
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come along very quickly this CFL season, again kind of a late bloomer.

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Didn't really start doing much till July
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who was Montreal's Most Outstanding Rookie nominee
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This season, he didn't catch on
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have been cut and then brought back
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an outstanding season. Again, those
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Antoine de Qua, who you know, had a pivotal pick six in that

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Eastern Final last week. Let's bring
Jamie. You ready to come on here?

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Let's bring Jamie in here. Do
you want to come around this way?

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We're bringing Jamie Night, Green Zone, everything Saskatchewan, trying not to

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kill yourself. Okay, come here, Jamie, coming in here, Jamie

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and I appreciate it. We were
talking in the FRC suite and all of

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that, hanging out. What is
the biggest thing you're tracking this week outside

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of the game. We got the
Jack Kelly of it all. We've got

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the logos on the field, We've
got the game not being broadcast on TV

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in America. What are you what
are you ready for? Well? Well,

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this week I've been under the who
the heck's the next head coach of

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the Saskatchewan rough Riders investigation on what's
going on with the coaching search, and

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I do know they have started the
at least the process to start requesting who

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they're going to talk to for some
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playoffs right now. That's like,
you know, Scott Malnovich, Brent Monson

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out of Calgary as well, Mark
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at Jordan mcsimmit to the DC Lions, those types of people and then wait

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because they're going to have to wait
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go after Buck Pierce and maybe nol
Thorpe of the Montreal Alouettes and Buck

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Pierce of course the offensive coordinator of
the Winnipeg Blue Bombers. So it's been

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interesting trying to keep track on who's
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Jason, we talked. I mean
it's this guts who went to kind

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of the dumpster fire with all there. I mean, what are we looking

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for? What do you have for
Jamie? I was going to ask about

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Winnipeg. So if Winnipeg wins this
game, where did they rank among like

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all time CFL teams? Well,
making four straight when you look at it

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outside of you know, you had
the Edmonton Eskimos back in the day made

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it to four straight. Then he
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making the four straight and the Regina
rough Riders when it was rugby that was

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the other team that So just making
it the four straight break Cups is unheard

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of. So you have that,
and then if they win, and they

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win three of four, you put
them as one of the greatest teams of

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all time. They're not the Edmonton
team that won five straight, but they're

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getting pretty durned close to what they've
been able to accomplish. And it's been

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fascinating to watch this team do it
because there is a time when there are

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some patients running in on Mike Oshane
Kyle Walter's way back in the day,

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and then all of a sudden they
turned the corner, started winning games.

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The Dominos fell the right way with
Zach Klaros and here we are and the

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dynasty word is fair, and it's
the debate as if they lose, can

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you still call him a dynasty.
I think they have to win for the

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the to be a three or four
rather than two of four. Evan what

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do you think and then to carry
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had a question about the coaching search
in sketchewand so I just wanted to get

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your opinion on, you know,
who might be the best fit, because

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Scott Milanovitch, who I really like, has been a name that's been floated

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around. Obviously you pointed that out. Jordan Meximik here in BC is someone

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that you know, I've been a
big fan of his work. But who

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do you think would be the best
candidate there? Well, it depends what

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you want. Do you want the
safest hire that's Scott Milanovitch because he's been

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there, done that, you know
what he can bring to the table.

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Or do you want to do a
Mike o'sha type person it was a special

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teams coordinator successful and then kind of
grow with them as a coach, maybe

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have something more longer term potentially.
And that's where I think you lean over

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to Buck Pierce because sorry people playing
django over there if you heard what that

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was. But it's one of those
things where you look at culture. I'm

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a big believer in finding someone from
a winning culture who knows how to grow

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it. That's why Buck Pierce really
appeals to me because of what he's seen

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in Winnipeg. But Scott Molnovitch is
the safest, most experienced. But I

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want the guy who blows dereme odea
away. That's who I really want.

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And we don't know who that's going
to be until the interview process goes down

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and they present a coaching staff that
you go, that's the guy, understood.

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But I imagine Scott Molenovitch will have, with all his connections, be

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able to come up with a heck
of a coaching staff for the Riders.

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Well, because I saw comment even
today that they were looking for, you

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know, it needs to be someone
that fits this the Scotchwan culture, and

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they said, no, I think
it needs someone to come in here rebuild

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a new culture because clearly what they
have right now isn't working. Well,

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what's the Saskatchewan culture when you've won
four Great Cups in one hundred and ten

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years? Like, oh, seriously, what's the do you want to the

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guy who believes in that? No, you want a guy who's gonna win

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three Great Cups in four years is
what you're looking for. That's the culture

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he want. So I want a
guy who can build his build a culture

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and not the Saskatchewan way or the
Edmonton way or the Bomber way. Make

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it your own and have the group
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that's that's where I'd be going.
How dysfunctional is the kind of the franchise

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now with all of this, And
you were on the show near the end

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of the season talking and yeah,
this is they're gonna even They're gonna lose

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their way out of the playoffs and
you fire the coach kind of all that

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stuff, like what is kind of
the welfare check on everything in Veragina?

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Well that everybody's pointing the finger at
now Craig Dickinson, right, it gets

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clear he is the guy you look
at even this week talking to Cody Fijardo,

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talking to Jason, talking to Darnell
Sank about twenty twenty two, not

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necessarily twenty twenty three, of course, but it sounded like it was an

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absolute gong show in that locker room, especially when they made the decision to

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bench Cody and you go, how
do you how a do you continue it

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on forward with Craig for an extra
year for twenty twenty three and gets what

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happened the exact same thing played out. So that's where I can understand where

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Ryder Nation is coming back on even
questioning bringing Jeremo Day back for three years

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as the general manager. To do
you really have faith in that guy to

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make the right higher I would like
to think he can. He's been around

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the league forever and when Chris Jones
bolted, he was pretty much had to

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pick Craig Dickinson. Then they go
to back to back West Finals. So

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it's been two up years, two
down years for the rough Riders in Jeremo

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Days. This is the most crucial
thing he has to do in his entire

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career as assistant general manager, everything
else right now, this is it for

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Jeremy O. Day. He's got
to get it right. Jason, we

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joked a lot meanly, kind of
joked about, you know, Saskatchewan here

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watching Jason Moss and co. You
know, go to the great gup here.

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I want to get your thoughts on
that. And then obviously Jamie about

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you know here they were the scapegoats
last year, kind of sent out of

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town packing and now obviously everything what
are your thousand and we'll get Jamie.

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Yeah, it's a It's an incredible
story with the Montreal Alouettes have gone through

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this year with obviously Moss and for
Jardo. I think that at the end

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of the day, they've just been
just like kind of a Cinderella story really

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because I personally I had them dead
last in the CFL standings at the beginning

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of the season, so you know, they've bill definitely proved me wrong.

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I think, you know, I've
definitely underestimated Jason Moss as a head coach

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because I think that when you look
back in hindsight, he did a pretty

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good job in Edmonton, Like you
look at what that team's become since he

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was fired in twenty nineteen. Yeah, just quite a difference for that organization.

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So we give credit to Jason Moss. Jason Moss, the one thing

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I very much appreciate and talking to
him was when he was in Edmonton,

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they were one of the most undisciplined
teams in the Canadian Football League and it

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was because he looked at himself and
when it's well, how disciplined was I

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on the sideline throwing headsets, smashing
gatorade bottles? Like how can I expect

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my team to play discipline? When
I can't even control myself. And he

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still tips the line, dances on
that line pretty close at times, but

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he's not throwing things anymore. Like
he's looked at himself on how can I

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grow as a person. And it
was interesting talking to Danny Machoca this week

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and said, I'm Danny said,
not glad that he went through what he

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did in the Saskatchewan, but watching
him go through what he did in the

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Saskatchewan, come through it, grow
from it, learn internally from it.

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He believed in Jason Moss even more
to hire him as the head coach of

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the Montreal Aloette. So that's the
big credit to Jason on the growth as

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a head coach. And with co
it's it's not like he's blowing the world

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away in his play like it is. It is a strong, strong defense

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he's got. But what Cody's doing
is he's not trying to be the hero

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every down like it seemed like he
was at times when it was going off

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the rails in Saskatchewan, trying to
be the guy that pushes the team forward.

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He understands he's just one piece.
He's a big piece, but one

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piece of the puzzle in Montreal and
it's paid off. In these playoffs.

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He's only he's made two bad throws. They've both been intercepted. Thankfully he

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didn't go for pick sixes in Montreal's
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I expect him in this in this
game to actually lose his use his

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legs more and dance around, not
dance around. But if Adam Bighill doesn't

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play, attack Shane Goce up the
middle on some QB draw stuff to really

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and probably test them early to see
where Goacher's game's at and what's going to

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be the biggest game of his career. Well, Evan Weird, I can

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I always having one of the conversations
that I could have been with Jamie someone

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over the weekend was talking like Jason
Moss like used to kind of getting the

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best of Cody now and maybe not
making him have it be a long ball

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down the field push it'd be a
little bit more dgon that. What do

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you make of how Jason's been using
Cody here and they obviously will get well.

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I think it's good to see Cody
kind of step back and being a

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bit more reserved role. He's letting
other people on the team kind of figure

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things out. I mean, the
big story about Montreal has been their defense,

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not the offense. Now Montreal has
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They've got Austin Mack, who I've
talked about it in nauseum. They have

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kay On, Julian Grant, you
know, a couple other guys there you

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know, will stand back in the
running game, you know. So I'm

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just really happy to see, you
know, Cody's not he doesn't have to

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play hero ball. You know,
he's been I've kind of used the term

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game manager of the season. I
think he's more than that. He brings

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more to the table right there.
I don't think that you know, they're

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in the Great Cup for a reason, and Cody plays a significant role with

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that as the quarterback of the team. But yeah, I think you know,

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him and Jason are a great pairing, and Cody's talked about that,

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you know, he's talked about what
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And it's really nice to see Jason
too, because, as we've already pointed

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out, you know, those guys
were kind of the scapegoats in Saskatchewan.

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They were made out to be the
problem, and then here you know,

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Jason Moss is, you know,
in a Gray Cup against one of you

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know, the I guess dynasties you
could say, in the CFL. And

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Saskatchewan was right back where they were
last year where they had an end of

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the season slide. And you know, I don't want to bring too much

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in that up just give you any
PETTSD, but hey, I you know,

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yeah, I mean that's just what
it is. You know, It's

408
00:24:15.279 --> 00:24:18.519
one of those things where they prove
a lot of people wrong. And we'll

409
00:24:18.519 --> 00:24:22.319
see if they continue to do that
tomorrow. And we had a Twitter comment

410
00:24:22.359 --> 00:24:26.119
here, why does his presentation look
more professional than CFL on TSN. I

411
00:24:26.160 --> 00:24:29.559
appreciate that. I appreciate the and
nothing like an iPhone in the ring light

412
00:24:29.599 --> 00:24:30.839
here? What do you make here, Cody? Because there's been a lot

413
00:24:30.880 --> 00:24:33.680
of like are they you know if
I lived in the States. Here we've

414
00:24:33.680 --> 00:24:37.160
got the brock Perny and what's in
the elite quarterback and all that kind of

415
00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:38.519
stuff. Here, I mean,
Cody's in the Gray Cup. I couldn't

416
00:24:38.559 --> 00:24:41.839
be more proud. What do you
make of his play coming into this year?

417
00:24:41.920 --> 00:24:45.640
Now? Well, me and Cody
kind of well, he blocked me

418
00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:48.759
on Twitter right, So like he
knew what I was saying about him last

419
00:24:48.799 --> 00:24:52.359
year. And I'm not going to
say that we were wrong about Cody Fajardo

420
00:24:52.440 --> 00:24:56.119
because as I mentioned, it's not
like he's light in the world on fire

421
00:24:56.200 --> 00:25:00.599
at thirty one touchdown passes, Like
his numbers are pretty well basically the same

422
00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:04.960
as they were with the rough Riders
last season. He's also got an exceptional

423
00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:11.640
defense surrounding him. So Jason Danny
Machocha has done a great job building that

424
00:25:11.720 --> 00:25:18.759
Montreal Alouette team and allowing Cody Fajardo
to be doesn't have to be all world

425
00:25:18.759 --> 00:25:22.839
to win football games. And Cody, he's told me he's been off Twitter

426
00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:26.480
all year. That really got to
him in Saskatchewan. Like I talked about

427
00:25:26.559 --> 00:25:30.880
Jason growing and that's a growth point
for Cody, it was getting to him

428
00:25:30.079 --> 00:25:34.119
reading the hitting that mentions button and
seeing how many people are down on you

429
00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:37.599
wore him down, so he said, I know, I'm not going to

430
00:25:37.680 --> 00:25:41.720
do it. It's all growth for
both of those guys that sometimes you build

431
00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:45.960
yourself up even stronger because you went
through adversity than if you didn't. And

432
00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:51.799
I think that's what happened with Cody
and Jason Moss. So it's you know,

433
00:25:51.880 --> 00:25:53.400
I walked up to him at Media
Day and I went right up to

434
00:25:53.480 --> 00:25:56.319
him and said, hey, man, I was in Saskatchewan saying he's the

435
00:25:56.400 --> 00:26:00.480
quarterback who's never going to get a
team to a great Cup is wrong.

436
00:26:00.880 --> 00:26:03.480
And he said, I appreciate that, man like, and he said,

437
00:26:03.480 --> 00:26:07.160
thanks for picking us this week.
So he's he's clearly not fully off social

438
00:26:07.200 --> 00:26:11.799
media if he knows I'm picking him
this week. Yeah, you need well,

439
00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:14.079
you needed to get on, Like
I didn't wait till he's traded to

440
00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:15.759
the team and then go through that
and then get him on and kind of

441
00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:18.279
use that as a way before we
get you out of here. You know,

442
00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:22.279
we've talked so much and I want
to get Jason's thoughts too. Kind

443
00:26:22.319 --> 00:26:26.039
of the work Jason, that Montreal
has done this year with Danny kind of

444
00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:27.559
you. We've talked to Sean Lemon
and the sinking and all that, Jason,

445
00:26:27.599 --> 00:26:30.079
what do you make of kind of
the off season work that Montreal's done.

446
00:26:30.079 --> 00:26:33.119
And then we'll get Jamis. But
you know, because like never giving

447
00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:36.000
up here right well, like here
Sean Lemon flooded around all these kind of

448
00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:37.680
things. What do you the work
that Danny did. Well. I'll even

449
00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:41.559
go even further back, because a
few years ago, Montreal I would say

450
00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:45.880
had the worst Canadian talent in the
CFL. And just the pieces that they've

451
00:26:45.880 --> 00:26:49.240
been able to draft over the past
couple of years, look at Marc Antoine

452
00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:53.480
du Plais, they found guys on
the offensive line like Pierre Olivier Lestage.

453
00:26:53.880 --> 00:26:57.160
They got, you know, some
good Canadian receivers. I think that aspect

454
00:26:57.200 --> 00:27:00.160
of their team has really improved over
the last couple of years and I think

455
00:27:00.200 --> 00:27:03.880
that's a huge reason why they are
where they are today. And I think

456
00:27:03.920 --> 00:27:07.480
that, yeah, at the end
of the day, the Canadian talent is

457
00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:12.759
very important in this league. Well, Danny's done just on Canadian talent to

458
00:27:12.839 --> 00:27:18.599
build off that. I talked to
Danny this week and he said where they've

459
00:27:18.640 --> 00:27:23.960
really built their Canadian talent is building
from within the borders of Quebec, Like

460
00:27:23.960 --> 00:27:30.720
like you have two really good strong
programs in Quebec, plus the size programs

461
00:27:30.319 --> 00:27:34.440
there too, where it's there's a
lot of Quebec talent, and if it's

462
00:27:36.640 --> 00:27:38.319
you know, two guys are the
same, He's taken the guy from Quebec

463
00:27:38.359 --> 00:27:42.880
all the time, and even within
his coaching staff. He's building within Quebec

464
00:27:42.920 --> 00:27:48.240
and really believing in that Quebec culture, Like this is Quebec's team, even

465
00:27:48.279 --> 00:27:52.960
though it's a Montreal Alabatte. So
I appreciate that. From Danny Macoc's point

466
00:27:52.960 --> 00:28:00.680
of view on how he's built Canadian
talent has been great and he's doing it.

467
00:28:00.799 --> 00:28:03.759
Like think about where they were without
with all the ownership stuff, Like

468
00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:11.440
he was losing his quarterback. He
was losing like his star receiver, he

469
00:28:11.599 --> 00:28:15.079
was losing the line back. Like
it was all over the place. Like

470
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:18.359
if Deari's pickt Eugene Lewis and Tremor
Harris right there, it's like, oh

471
00:28:18.359 --> 00:28:22.319
my goodness. But he also had
extra money to sign Darnell Sankie and Sean

472
00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:25.640
Lemon mid season. The work Danny
Machocha did this year, if there was

473
00:28:25.680 --> 00:28:30.039
an Executive of the Year at the
CFL Awards, it should be Danny Machocha

474
00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:33.480
for what he's been able to pull
off with the Montreal Alots. Last question

475
00:28:33.519 --> 00:28:37.359
for you is, I'm trying to
figure out what our stage producer Dorothy here.

476
00:28:37.400 --> 00:28:38.839
We'll get her on at the end
of the show. If we figure

477
00:28:38.839 --> 00:28:44.200
out who wants to come on next. How much pressure is there on whoever

478
00:28:44.200 --> 00:28:47.559
comes in Saskatchewan now, I mean
here right, they hosted last year,

479
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:49.480
all that stuff. Now I'll fire, like, what what is that?

480
00:28:49.519 --> 00:28:52.799
You know, what's the timeline here? You're expecting for when someone could potentially

481
00:28:52.839 --> 00:28:56.319
get higher than then? Like,
how much pressures are now coming in the

482
00:28:56.319 --> 00:29:00.720
next year for the for the coach. Yeah, people coming in, Oh

483
00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:07.519
my goodness, better win, like
you better win. This is a situation

484
00:29:07.359 --> 00:29:12.880
where the fan base is they're not
showing up the games anymore, like sixteen

485
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:18.480
thousand is back when the dog days
of the Saskatchewan rough Riders, when I

486
00:29:18.559 --> 00:29:19.880
was a season ticket holder, when
I was a teenager, and you could

487
00:29:19.880 --> 00:29:22.759
sit anywhere. You can put your
feet over the seats, get relax,

488
00:29:22.920 --> 00:29:27.039
you can walk around, get the
many yellow football's, all that stuff at

489
00:29:27.079 --> 00:29:30.160
a game because there's nobody else chasing
them around when they got a field goal.

490
00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:37.279
So the pressure is immense on Craig
Reynolds, the president, Jeremy O'Day,

491
00:29:37.359 --> 00:29:41.680
the general manager, the new coach. I think can come in there

492
00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:48.039
and understand, yeah, it's win
now. But I think there'd be more

493
00:29:48.079 --> 00:29:51.640
pressure on those above this head coach
than there will be on the head coach.

494
00:29:52.759 --> 00:29:56.839
But I think there's a good base
of talent there you can build around.

495
00:29:56.279 --> 00:30:00.960
But Jeremy's already there doing it.
A matter of figuring out is Trevor

496
00:30:02.000 --> 00:30:04.799
Harris coming back at quarterback? And
if not, who's gonna throw the football

497
00:30:04.799 --> 00:30:08.400
around? You need a good one
to win in this league, There's no

498
00:30:08.440 --> 00:30:11.279
doubt about that. Well a lot
of here. I think you have an

499
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:15.680
exciting offseason ahead, Jamie. I
appreciate it. Thanks for coming on.

500
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:18.000
I'll see it the sweet Lander.
We appreciate it. We'll bring Darryl in

501
00:30:18.039 --> 00:30:21.960
here. We got Daryl Davis coming
in. He's drinking some water. We

502
00:30:22.000 --> 00:30:23.039
got Darryl. I had a comment
here, Drelle. You can come on

503
00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:26.119
that way. Thanks Jamie. I
did see a comment here. And I

504
00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:27.920
want to talk more about this with
far Han and Naylor as well about the

505
00:30:27.960 --> 00:30:32.599
CFL plus the Great Cup and kind
of all of that stuff, because I

506
00:30:32.640 --> 00:30:36.640
do think that that is quite the
miss here that you have not an option

507
00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:38.880
with the biggest game of the CFL
season here, you know, to be

508
00:30:40.359 --> 00:30:42.720
on broadcast TV in anyway. Evan
and I were talking even before the stream

509
00:30:42.759 --> 00:30:47.519
about God forbid, I'm channel surfing
and I stumble upon it in my thing.

510
00:30:47.599 --> 00:30:51.880
But we'll get to that. I
know Philip CFL plus dot ca and

511
00:30:51.920 --> 00:30:53.079
it's on there. It's free to
watch. I just think there needs to

512
00:30:53.079 --> 00:30:56.720
be a better way, a better
way to get more people on Darryl.

513
00:30:56.839 --> 00:30:59.440
Here, we've spent the last couple
of nights in the FRC suite. Are

514
00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:03.799
you enjoying you're Jordan Everley Babblehead.
Well, thanks to the Jordan Beverly barb

515
00:31:03.839 --> 00:31:06.279
our Head. He's my former neighbor, right, so yeah, thank you

516
00:31:06.319 --> 00:31:07.799
for that. There's a really nice
treat. I'll let you stay up until

517
00:31:07.799 --> 00:31:11.160
like three or four in the morning
and hang out on the suite with me

518
00:31:11.200 --> 00:31:15.319
and keep me awake really late again
as always read good to see if Daryl,

519
00:31:15.359 --> 00:31:17.920
what what are you tracking this week? I guess let's get your thoughts

520
00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:21.440
on that we got the CFL plus. You know it's weird, like you

521
00:31:21.440 --> 00:31:23.400
know, rash tweets it out.
I'm like, this has been known since

522
00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:26.759
May that the game wasn't going to
be on America DV. What do you

523
00:31:26.799 --> 00:31:30.839
make of that? I understand the
CFL plus and everyone you know, I

524
00:31:30.880 --> 00:31:33.880
saw Dave Campbell stand don't worry about
it and Rob Peterson, but I think

525
00:31:33.920 --> 00:31:37.160
you need to have an option somewhere
on broadcast TV. Gonford. But but

526
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:40.319
what do you make of CFL the
Great Cup not being available on the American

527
00:31:40.359 --> 00:31:41.720
TV? Well, you need to
have access for people who want to watch

528
00:31:41.720 --> 00:31:45.599
it. Then it used to be
on ESPN that you can watch it somewhere,

529
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:48.480
and I know that everybody's going streaming
these days. We're evolving, right,

530
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:52.680
but how can you not have it
on even a basic cable somewhere.

531
00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:56.000
It's probably not gonna be on a
broadcast and I work, of course not,

532
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:59.880
but people want to watch it and
there are Canadians all over the world

533
00:32:00.000 --> 00:32:01.480
you'd like to pick it up,
and it's gonna be tough if you're just

534
00:32:01.559 --> 00:32:06.920
streaming things. Not everybody gets great
reception on their stream so I think that's

535
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:09.480
a misstep on the Sahal's part,
but it's something hopefully they can fix.

536
00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:13.599
What's the biggest storyline your track them
this week? What do you want to

537
00:32:13.640 --> 00:32:15.880
talk about? It could be the
game, it could be the non bilingual

538
00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:17.799
stuff on the field, like what
do you track it? And then we'll

539
00:32:17.799 --> 00:32:21.920
get some questions figure out, well, I'm really local because I'm from Regina,

540
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:23.640
Saskatchewan, home of the Saskatchewan rough
Riders, and what's going on there?

541
00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:28.119
They need a coach right so here
I am following guys. Scott Milanovitch

542
00:32:28.200 --> 00:32:31.160
is a lot of Hamilton's offensive coordinator
obviously the number one, I believe the

543
00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:36.480
number one choice to become Saskatchein's new
head coach after they dumped Craig Dickinson.

544
00:32:37.519 --> 00:32:39.720
Noel Thorpe, the defense coordinator for
Montreal, might be considered. Buck Pierce,

545
00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:44.440
I'm sure is being considered as he's
an offensive coordinator with Winnipeg. So

546
00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:46.880
those are the stories I'm working on, mostly read. I try to keep

547
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:51.559
my stuff local. I know there's
a lot of national stories international that the

548
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:54.519
French language thing is always something they
have to be very careful of. It's

549
00:32:54.640 --> 00:32:59.759
not as noteworthy in Saskatchewan, but
it certainly is with Montreal. In Montreal

550
00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:02.839
and Quebec, and especially with the
Montreal Aloettes participating in the Great Cup Game,

551
00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:06.480
you can't mess up things like that. You can't mess up like they

552
00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:09.759
did in the East Final and not
have a bilingual singer singing the national anthem.

553
00:33:09.799 --> 00:33:14.920
That's just not the way it worked
in Canada. Jason, did you

554
00:33:15.160 --> 00:33:17.079
and what we've talked Scott Melanavinch and
kind of all of this stuff him with

555
00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:20.960
Hamilton, do you think he's done
enough with you know, with the ty

556
00:33:21.039 --> 00:33:22.759
Cats even though you know, make
it to the playoffs not winning, but

557
00:33:22.799 --> 00:33:25.839
like, did he do enough here
with his resume? I think that he

558
00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:30.920
did an okay job. I think
the offense for Hamilton definitely did improve when

559
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:35.799
he took over from Tommy Condell midway
through this season. But I think the

560
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:40.480
most important thing is the CFL teams. They value experience and previous experience being

561
00:33:40.519 --> 00:33:44.640
a head coach, and I think
that more often often than not, you

562
00:33:44.720 --> 00:33:49.359
see them rehire guys that have been
head coaches before. They don't really see

563
00:33:49.440 --> 00:33:53.000
you don't really see guys that haven't
been a head coach before get an opportunity

564
00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:57.640
that often. So I think that
is working in his favor more than anything.

565
00:33:57.920 --> 00:34:00.039
What do you make of that,
Darrell the recycling at CF Here we

566
00:34:00.079 --> 00:34:02.759
sig Jason Mosco and get fired out
of him and getting the head but now

567
00:34:02.759 --> 00:34:06.319
hey he's in the Great Cup.
Yeah, there are only nine jobs.

568
00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:09.320
And makes a good point because Jerem
O. Day, the Rough Riders general

569
00:34:09.360 --> 00:34:14.000
manager, is in a precarious spot. He got stuck with Craig Dickinson a

570
00:34:14.000 --> 00:34:17.039
couple four years ago, five years
ago because Chris Jones bolted for the NFL.

571
00:34:17.159 --> 00:34:22.039
So Craig Dickinson was the best coach
on their staff, best coaching candidate

572
00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:24.039
on their staff for two years.
They made the Western Final and then missed

573
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:28.559
the playoffs the last two years.
So he needs to find somebody. I've

574
00:34:28.599 --> 00:34:32.000
been I realized that Saskatchewan rough Rider
fans are furious and Jeremy O Day got

575
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:36.039
a three year contract extension, but
they needed to give him three years so

576
00:34:36.039 --> 00:34:39.039
he can hire a good coach like
Milanovich. And the reason why why they

577
00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:43.360
don't recycle a lot of times,
especially now, Jeremo Day can't afford to

578
00:34:43.400 --> 00:34:45.639
take a chance on somebody. He
needs to find somebody who's proven. Scott

579
00:34:45.679 --> 00:34:49.679
Milanovitch has proven he's won a great
cup. I know that he faltered a

580
00:34:49.679 --> 00:34:52.119
little bit at the end of his
time in Toronto, but he's won a

581
00:34:52.119 --> 00:34:54.480
great coup and he can put a
coaching staff together on short notice, which

582
00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:59.079
is really important thing right now.
You have to have people who can coach

583
00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:01.199
and we'll fit within the salary cap. And since he's done that before,

584
00:35:01.280 --> 00:35:06.159
that gives him a real advantage in
the in any competition for the whole coaching

585
00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:08.159
job. Evan thoughts on that kind
of the recycled talent, you know,

586
00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:12.000
coaching And we've talked about this,
you know, for weeks in the Salary

587
00:35:12.000 --> 00:35:14.360
cap and we went through the whole
Chris Jones of at all kind of everything

588
00:35:14.400 --> 00:35:15.599
else. Your thoughts on this,
Well, the CFL is a tighten the

589
00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:17.719
community, you know, and there's
gonna be guys that, you know,

590
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:21.840
maybe step down and then go back
up. I think that's I think that's

591
00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:23.840
perfectly normal. I mean, if
we want to talk about Scott Milanovitch again,

592
00:35:23.960 --> 00:35:25.920
I was a very big fan of
what he did in Hamilton. I

593
00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:29.760
think that turnaround was quite significant.
I understand that, you know, they

594
00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:31.360
still had some things to figure out, you know, bo Levi I kind

595
00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:35.519
of came back late in the season, put him in the mix. You

596
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:37.880
had Taylor Powell, you had Matt
Schieldz, you had a lot of guys

597
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:39.519
right there was still you know,
I don't want to say a lack of

598
00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:45.199
identity, but it wasn't perfect.
But you know, Hamilton became competitive when

599
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:49.480
Milnovitch came in there significantly more competitive
than they were with Tommy Condell, and

600
00:35:50.440 --> 00:35:52.039
you know, yeah, they faltered
in the playoffs. It's not what we

601
00:35:52.119 --> 00:35:55.280
expected. I think there'd be even
more talk about this right now if Hamilton

602
00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:59.519
was able to beat Montreal. But
you know, I really like Milanovitch and

603
00:35:59.639 --> 00:36:01.920
like you know, Jamie was saying, you know, I think he's probably

604
00:36:02.039 --> 00:36:05.159
the best Canada. I know he's
getting talked about a lot. I know

605
00:36:05.199 --> 00:36:07.639
it's you know, the one that's
brought up the most, but yeah,

606
00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:09.280
I mean you look at his resume. It kind of speaks for itself.

607
00:36:09.320 --> 00:36:15.400
And you know, he was again
the switch when they made that in Hamilton.

608
00:36:15.440 --> 00:36:16.440
I just I don't think that could
be overlooked. I know it wasn't

609
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:20.280
perfect, but that they really,
I mean, that's what put them,

610
00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:23.039
you know, I think into playoffs. Not that the East was outside of

611
00:36:23.079 --> 00:36:27.320
you know, Toronto, not that
the East was extremely competitive, but yeah,

612
00:36:27.400 --> 00:36:30.920
in terms of I want to get
your thoughts because Hamilton here it seemed

613
00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:34.360
I mean it was a dumpster fire
for a lot of the season, and

614
00:36:34.400 --> 00:36:37.559
bo and kind of all that stuff
like Stein Howard, and it just seems

615
00:36:37.559 --> 00:36:40.599
like we made the playoffs it's business
as usual now, like moving on to

616
00:36:40.679 --> 00:36:44.199
next year, Like what do you
make of the Hamilton? Then we'll get

617
00:36:44.280 --> 00:36:49.039
Jason's thoughts, but like just in
terms of I okay, like we were

618
00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:51.719
here again and we fell short and
then okay, but now we roll it

619
00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:53.800
back next year. Well, I
was actually at Hamilton's last Great Cup victory

620
00:36:53.840 --> 00:36:57.800
in nineteen ninety nine, which seems
like a generation to go, and I

621
00:36:57.800 --> 00:37:00.000
know there are fewer and fewer people
every year who were there. They haven't

622
00:37:00.039 --> 00:37:04.840
they haven't put it back together.
We all think Orlando Seinauer is a pretty

623
00:37:04.880 --> 00:37:07.039
good coach and quite popular. But
is the advice? Is he a prince

624
00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:10.119
a president? He's the president of
football operations? Is he capable of that

625
00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:15.079
job? Well, well he's taken
over and the team hasn't really gotten better.

626
00:37:15.440 --> 00:37:16.800
Uh, you find the teams that
are having more success now are the

627
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:21.599
guys? Are the teams that seemed
to divide those two jobs. So Orlando,

628
00:37:21.719 --> 00:37:23.519
if he moved up, we thought
might happen, and then he could

629
00:37:23.599 --> 00:37:28.000
hire Scott Maladovitch as the head guy. This team is in a little bit

630
00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:30.360
of trouble. Bowie by Mitchell.
The Calgary Stampeders dumped him because they knew

631
00:37:30.400 --> 00:37:34.719
he was done. He's done,
He's gonna be a great football commentator on

632
00:37:34.760 --> 00:37:37.000
TSM. Let him go do that. I know it's tough for a player

633
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:42.159
of his ilk to walk away,
but he can't play anymore. They obviously

634
00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:45.199
decided that. As they were talking
about that, Milanovitch didn't use Bowley By

635
00:37:45.239 --> 00:37:50.199
Mitchell as a quarterback in the playoffs. Matthew Shiltz probably isn't a great quarterback

636
00:37:50.239 --> 00:37:52.880
to do that. I thought Taylor
Powell showed a lot of a lot of

637
00:37:52.239 --> 00:37:54.800
potential, but are you going to
start him in the in the playoffs?

638
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:58.559
That's a tough a tough thing for
a team to do. They love,

639
00:37:58.599 --> 00:38:01.280
as you guys were talking about,
love to have experience. Coaches love to

640
00:38:01.320 --> 00:38:06.320
have experienced quarterbacks, so that's why
you put those guys in. And I

641
00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:09.480
thought that bold Levi Mitchell was probably
their best chance. Give him one more

642
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:15.079
chance for a big explosion. But
it just doesn't seem like they know exactly

643
00:38:15.079 --> 00:38:17.400
what they're doing in Hamilton at the
moment. And I think they're a team

644
00:38:17.400 --> 00:38:21.960
in a little bit of turmoil at
the moment, and Scott Milanovitch might actually

645
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:24.880
want to leave right at the moment
because there's more opportunities somewhere else. Jason,

646
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:28.559
we talked. I mean obviously you
can talk you know, Takats as

647
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:30.039
a fan, and obviously it's a
CFL you know, kind of medium.

648
00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:32.559
Ever here, like, what do
you see them doing next? Because to

649
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:36.239
me, it doesn't Okay, it
was successful, you made it to the

650
00:38:36.239 --> 00:38:39.039
playoffs, but it doesn't feel successful. Yeah. I think that, you

651
00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:43.480
know, it just seems like they've
kind of flat lined under Steinauer. I

652
00:38:43.480 --> 00:38:45.599
think that, you know, look
at the first year fifteen and three,

653
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:49.079
they start out hot, they get
to the great cop best record in franchise

654
00:38:49.119 --> 00:38:52.440
history in the regular season, and
then they're eight and four or eight and

655
00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:55.960
six in twenty twenty one, and
then eight and ten last year, eight

656
00:38:57.000 --> 00:39:00.039
and ten this year. So they've
just kind of been regressing throughout the last

657
00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:05.079
few years here. And I think
the main common denominator is they can't get

658
00:39:05.079 --> 00:39:07.800
the quarterback situation right. Even when
they had Massoli and Evans, they couldn't

659
00:39:07.800 --> 00:39:10.920
really decide on who to play.
Really when they you know, it worked

660
00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:15.000
out for them, they got to
the Gray Cup, but ultimately they haven't

661
00:39:15.039 --> 00:39:19.079
been able to identify who is the
guy and I think that is the biggest

662
00:39:19.079 --> 00:39:21.920
problem. And what do you do
for next year? Do you bring bow

663
00:39:22.039 --> 00:39:24.639
back and just roll with him and
Taylor Powell? Do you go with Shiltzon

664
00:39:24.719 --> 00:39:29.880
Powell or do you go with I'm
gonna throw a possibility out there, McLeod

665
00:39:29.880 --> 00:39:32.119
Bethel Thompson. Do you bring him
in and go with him and Taylor Powell

666
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:36.599
as the combo there. I'm glad
you reminded me that. And let's get

667
00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:38.519
Evan Sasin there, because yeah,
hear Bo's coming back, all right,

668
00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:43.920
that both you see mccot's coming back. It's not a lot of negative comments

669
00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:46.360
like, oh, we found out
that you know, you can't whatever fifty

670
00:39:46.400 --> 00:39:49.599
thousand dollars in space, like God
forbid. He tries to go do his

671
00:39:49.599 --> 00:39:51.880
family and all these other things.
But what do you make about it?

672
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:53.440
And then we'll get your well,
I mean, I think just in Hamilton

673
00:39:53.480 --> 00:39:55.920
in general, you know, I
really like Orlando Steinhauer as much as like

674
00:39:55.960 --> 00:40:00.400
credit Scott Molanovitch for the turnaround in
Hamilton. I think stein You know,

675
00:40:00.400 --> 00:40:02.000
also, I was saying at the
beginning of the season, if someone's gonna

676
00:40:02.000 --> 00:40:06.000
pull him out of the hole with
Steinhauer, with his experience. But I

677
00:40:06.000 --> 00:40:07.480
agree with Jason, you know,
I think that they've reached a point now

678
00:40:07.480 --> 00:40:09.760
where they've done what they can.
You know, they went to the Great

679
00:40:09.800 --> 00:40:13.639
Cups, they didn't win. It
was a very you know, a very

680
00:40:13.760 --> 00:40:16.039
fast acceleration under him, but it's
kind of a it's gone down now.

681
00:40:16.039 --> 00:40:19.519
And if you want to talk about
hypotheticals, you know, you just mentioned

682
00:40:19.599 --> 00:40:22.719
McLoud, Bethel Thompson, and we'll
obviously have Dave Naylor on here later,

683
00:40:22.760 --> 00:40:25.000
but he floated the idea of having
June Jones coming back, and you know,

684
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:28.280
I don't know if that's you know, accurate or not. We'll see.

685
00:40:28.360 --> 00:40:31.039
He expressed interest in coming back.
But I really liked June obviously,

686
00:40:31.119 --> 00:40:35.679
you know from the XFL followed that
closely. I love his run and shoot

687
00:40:35.679 --> 00:40:37.239
offense. I think that would be
great in the Canadian Football League. Might

688
00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:42.639
you know, spark something in Hamilton
again, especially if milanovitch le he's right

689
00:40:42.679 --> 00:40:45.039
talking about the offense. I love
offensive football, so I'm not gonna rebel

690
00:40:45.360 --> 00:40:47.440
on for too much about that.
But yeah, I mean there's a lot

691
00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:51.679
of different ways Hamilton could go.
It's just you know, when a season

692
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:53.920
like this happens where you know,
it's really a mixed bag. Ultimately,

693
00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:57.000
you have to switch some things in
the middle of the season. You lose

694
00:40:57.000 --> 00:40:59.920
in the playoffs, there's gonna be
a lot of questions and you know they

695
00:40:59.920 --> 00:41:01.760
have to answer those two. I'm
not as many as Saskatchewan maybe, but

696
00:41:01.960 --> 00:41:05.800
they've definitely got some questions. You
left he said, you know, Jim

697
00:41:05.920 --> 00:41:08.199
Jones McLoud all this to mean that
now maybe be pretty crazy. What do

698
00:41:08.280 --> 00:41:12.599
you do this? Well, it
would be kind of a couple of steps

699
00:41:12.599 --> 00:41:15.679
backwards in terms of history anyway,
But there aren't that many guys around who

700
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:19.920
are who are proven CFL coaches.
June Jones has done a good job in

701
00:41:20.079 --> 00:41:23.039
this league. He hasn't forgotten how
to coach. Does it look like we're

702
00:41:23.079 --> 00:41:28.280
talking about moving forward and trying to
find the next new coaches And that's kind

703
00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:30.800
of why the seafou gets laughed at
sometimes and it would take that step backwards

704
00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:36.199
and do it, uh McCloud.
Bethel Thompson coming back, Well he's not.

705
00:41:36.559 --> 00:41:38.519
You know, he's a functional quarterback. He could he could help a

706
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:40.679
lot of teams. He might.
You know, Saskatchewan, I don't know

707
00:41:40.679 --> 00:41:45.519
what they're doing with Taylor, with
Taylor, Trevor Harris. I'm sorry.

708
00:41:45.639 --> 00:41:47.039
As a quarterback, he's coming off, He's thirty seven years old, he's

709
00:41:47.039 --> 00:41:51.800
getting half a million dollars. He
broken a knee in five places. Is

710
00:41:51.840 --> 00:41:54.079
he worth paying the highest salary to
ever in the history of the Saskatchewan row

711
00:41:54.119 --> 00:41:59.199
Writers. Probably not so. McLoud, Bethel Thompson might have some options.

712
00:41:59.239 --> 00:42:01.199
So it's it's interesting. This is
what we love about Gray Cup. There's

713
00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:05.199
so many people hanging around and we
all have these stories and I've talked to

714
00:42:05.239 --> 00:42:07.199
this guy. I've talked to that
guy. He wants to come back.

715
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:10.039
How it all resolves itself. That's
what the off seasons for. It's gonna

716
00:42:10.039 --> 00:42:13.519
be a lot of fun to keep
watching. That's why we love this league.

717
00:42:13.639 --> 00:42:17.599
Well, no, it is interesting
and that it was similarly in terms

718
00:42:17.639 --> 00:42:21.159
of like the coaching throwing that ideas. It was the same to circle back

719
00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:23.199
with kind of the rough rider head
coaching and like it was kind of like

720
00:42:23.239 --> 00:42:25.039
here, hey, I want to
be the head coach. I want to

721
00:42:25.039 --> 00:42:28.400
be you know, we had John
you know John Ryan throwing his name in

722
00:42:28.400 --> 00:42:31.960
the you know, Seattle Seahawk legend
right in Super Bowl winning with it.

723
00:42:32.639 --> 00:42:37.039
But kind of rounding out here before
we get out, I want to get

724
00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:43.039
your thoughts on kind of the shellacking
the Montreal gave to Toronto. I'm gonna,

725
00:42:43.079 --> 00:42:45.199
you know, I'm gonna ask Naylor
and all this. I want to

726
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:49.199
I want to know about this,
uh Chad Kelly situation. We've talked about

727
00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:52.960
this. Uh was Chad Kelly under
duress here playing in the Gray Cup?

728
00:42:52.000 --> 00:42:54.760
Or was he a full strength in
the East Final? He was? He

729
00:42:55.119 --> 00:42:59.559
was? He wasn't the Chad Kelly
then we're used to seeing no confidence.

730
00:42:59.599 --> 00:43:01.000
He's throwing off his back foot.
He just didn't look like the guy who

731
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:06.480
had led the Argonauts to a sixteen
and two seasons. So something was a

732
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:12.199
miss for him to come out and
say it was a concussion without medical somebody

733
00:43:12.239 --> 00:43:15.800
from the doctor side saying I had
he had a concussion. That's that's a

734
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:20.360
kind of a touchy situation. He
wasn't the right guy. Was he concussed?

735
00:43:20.360 --> 00:43:22.719
Perhaps, but there are a lot
of reasons that maybe there are other

736
00:43:22.719 --> 00:43:25.079
reasons for why he didn't play very
well, and a lot of them are

737
00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:30.320
the Montreal Alouettes. That was an
amazing defensive performance by the by the by

738
00:43:30.360 --> 00:43:34.119
Noel Thorpe and his troops. So
you know, there do you have?

739
00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:37.239
There's always other reasons why I don't
play very well, but he wasn't the

740
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:42.960
same guy. And if we had
done the voting for outstanding player after that

741
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:45.679
game, I think Reddy Olivera would
have won the voting as opposed to Chad

742
00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:49.639
Kelly as being the outstanding player in
the league. Yeah, final thoughts on

743
00:43:49.679 --> 00:43:52.360
Matt. I'll get our next guest
ready here. Final thoughts on the MP

744
00:43:52.480 --> 00:43:54.199
thing because I was on the plane
flying in and I thought we'll get more

745
00:43:54.199 --> 00:43:58.400
thoughts on this as well as I'm
sure we will get through the two hours

746
00:43:58.440 --> 00:44:00.679
here. But I mean I was
stunned. Yeah, quarterbacks always get the

747
00:44:00.719 --> 00:44:05.239
advantage that they can win all the
time. They are the most valuable player

748
00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:08.199
there. I was obviously the most
outstanding player because of their statistics read so

749
00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:13.079
that's who gets the votes quite often. But to me, oli Era had

750
00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:15.159
an amazing season two thousand yards.
He's a running back, right, and

751
00:44:15.320 --> 00:44:20.559
Zach Clara's had okay, But zac
Claris's numbers are probably even better than Chad

752
00:44:20.639 --> 00:44:23.119
Kelly's in terms of the quarterback rankings. So what does that tell you that

753
00:44:23.800 --> 00:44:29.000
everybody decided that Olivera was a more
important player, a more outstanding player to

754
00:44:29.079 --> 00:44:30.800
his team. That's who I would
have voted for. And it was a

755
00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:34.159
surprise to me. I don't know
if you guys think the same thing.

756
00:44:34.280 --> 00:44:37.440
Who would you have voted for?
Personally, I would have voted for all

757
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:39.239
of Era. But I do understand, like what you're saying, it's usually

758
00:44:39.280 --> 00:44:44.199
the best player on the best team
that wins these awards. Yeah, I

759
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:47.119
think I would have. You know, it's two criteria. It's usually you

760
00:44:47.199 --> 00:44:50.519
know, a quarterback award, right, someone who's a leader, and it's

761
00:44:50.639 --> 00:44:52.800
usually a regular season award. So
you take away that, you know,

762
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:58.519
performance by Chad Kelly in the East
Final. But yeah, I wasn't too

763
00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:00.360
surprised about Chad Kelly. I think, you know, more than anything,

764
00:45:00.599 --> 00:45:04.480
you know, while he you know, yeah, Claro's maybe had better numbers,

765
00:45:04.559 --> 00:45:06.960
you know, Olavara with his you
know, two thousand scrimmage yards.

766
00:45:07.199 --> 00:45:09.800
I get that. I just think, you know, while like there wasn't

767
00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:14.280
there wasn't a whole lot of expectation
for Chad Kelly in my opinion. I

768
00:45:14.280 --> 00:45:15.760
mean, he played in the Gray
Cup, right, you know, he

769
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:17.360
came in there, you know,
a couple of drives, but you know,

770
00:45:17.559 --> 00:45:20.239
outside of that, I mean,
you know, there wasn't a whole

771
00:45:20.280 --> 00:45:22.440
lot Like McLeod Bethel Thompson was their
guy. He goes to the New Orleans

772
00:45:22.440 --> 00:45:25.800
Breakers in the USFL, and then
Chad has suddenly thrust it into this role

773
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:29.920
and then Toronto goes on to wit
you know, tied for the most wins

774
00:45:29.920 --> 00:45:31.519
in a CFL season of all time. Like it's nothing, you know,

775
00:45:31.960 --> 00:45:36.840
and that's that's that's uh, you
know that that isn't taken lightly. So

776
00:45:36.920 --> 00:45:38.800
yeah, I think I think Chad. I think Chad earned it. We

777
00:45:38.840 --> 00:45:42.960
have a small child here crying over
her following jang. I appreciate it,

778
00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:45.320
Darryl. I appreciate anything else from
you will get Jim in here anything else

779
00:45:45.360 --> 00:45:47.679
before I see it, and I
I just have a good night in the

780
00:45:47.719 --> 00:45:52.719
suite and go to bed early.
Okay, Darryl, thank you very much.

781
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:54.639
We'll get Jim Mullen in here next. Thank you, Darrell, appreciate

782
00:45:54.679 --> 00:45:59.079
it. Don't check yourself on the
bar. We'll get Jim Mullen in here.

783
00:45:59.119 --> 00:46:01.880
President football than everything else. He
is saying this canilans, were you

784
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:06.360
guys surprised? I mean, I
truly was with the Olivera thing. I

785
00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:08.119
just think of any year that you're
gonna make a statement to me, this

786
00:46:08.159 --> 00:46:13.239
is it. Yeah, I definitely
think so, because I think everybody that

787
00:46:13.320 --> 00:46:16.199
I talked to thought Olivera was gonna
win this award. But like I said,

788
00:46:16.199 --> 00:46:19.320
at the end of the day,
best player on the best team.

789
00:46:19.440 --> 00:46:22.840
You know, it's not like Chad
Kelly was an undeserving winner of this award.

790
00:46:22.079 --> 00:46:25.760
I mean he led the league,
led the team to the best regular

791
00:46:25.800 --> 00:46:29.840
season in CFL history. So at
the end of the day, yeah,

792
00:46:29.960 --> 00:46:34.000
I was surprised, but Chad Kelly
was deserving the award. Still, well,

793
00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:36.239
here we go back now. He
was at the top of the show

794
00:46:36.599 --> 00:46:38.960
last year and Regina let off we
got you on. You come in hot

795
00:46:39.039 --> 00:46:40.719
you see you text me, you
say I'll be there. You know,

796
00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:45.960
of course we fit you in parking
to be here, so well, we

797
00:46:46.039 --> 00:46:50.719
appreciate you. It is such an
honor, after all, it is yere.

798
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:52.880
I think the most, that the
most, the most that Canadian out

799
00:46:52.880 --> 00:46:55.960
here. I will say, I
think you're feeling that Jeff Hamilton completely dropped

800
00:46:55.960 --> 00:46:59.920
the ball and I'll throw him under
the bus. Jeff Hamilton missing the show

801
00:47:00.000 --> 00:47:04.159
today, Jim Mullen coming in.
Jim I was at Randy's stated that because

802
00:47:04.199 --> 00:47:07.280
of course the media one was Tuesday, God forbid that we cover that.

803
00:47:07.039 --> 00:47:10.960
Talking about the question from the audience, U Sports, do you guys you

804
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:15.559
know we're permanently supposedly moving CFL playoff
games to Saturday. Did you have any

805
00:47:15.559 --> 00:47:19.440
consideration about you Sports? And Randy
said, I think the quote was like,

806
00:47:19.480 --> 00:47:22.400
we need to look out best for
our business. I knew tweeting that

807
00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:23.760
out that will get you riled up. So whether's your thoughts on that.

808
00:47:23.880 --> 00:47:28.480
We'll get into everything else. Well, to one degree, he's right,

809
00:47:28.800 --> 00:47:31.360
they have to do what's best for
their business. And I think in terms

810
00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:36.639
of what we've seen at the gate
and what we started to see in terms

811
00:47:36.639 --> 00:47:39.360
of television numbers, I think he's
been doing the best for his business here.

812
00:47:40.440 --> 00:47:45.559
That being said, part of what's
good for business is alignment with the

813
00:47:45.599 --> 00:47:50.639
rest of the football community, and
I don't think that piece has been worked

814
00:47:50.679 --> 00:47:54.679
on yet. However, I will
say this about U Sports, about Canadian

815
00:47:54.760 --> 00:48:01.039
Junior Football League, guys, do
yourself a favor. What time these games

816
00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:05.079
are being played, play around them? There was I pointed it out on

817
00:48:05.119 --> 00:48:10.400
grid Iron Nation this week that there
was one point last Saturday where the BC

818
00:48:10.599 --> 00:48:16.119
Lions, the Canadian Bowl in Victoria, and the UBC Thunderbirds were all playing

819
00:48:16.159 --> 00:48:21.119
at the same time for an hour. That can't happen again. And so

820
00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:23.800
for something like junior football like the
Canadian Bowl, play it on Sunday.

821
00:48:24.039 --> 00:48:28.920
NFL fans are going to be NFL
fans. They're not showing up for junior

822
00:48:28.920 --> 00:48:32.360
football in Canada, right, true
football fans are going to be showing up

823
00:48:32.400 --> 00:48:38.280
for that live event. In university
football in Western Canada, they play on

824
00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:44.719
Friday nights. I know that then
that may create some discomfort for the high

825
00:48:44.719 --> 00:48:47.880
school football community. That could have
a cascading effect there. I play one

826
00:48:47.960 --> 00:48:52.119
game on Friday, move a game
earlier with time zones. There's a way

827
00:48:52.159 --> 00:48:58.960
to do this if you actually plan
and you actually align. And quite frankly,

828
00:48:59.000 --> 00:49:02.159
my my panelists said, well,
that's kind of a job for you

829
00:49:02.280 --> 00:49:07.239
football Canada guys. So I opened
up my big yapp and now people are

830
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:09.519
looking at me thinking that I'm going
to direct the traffic. I'm not sure

831
00:49:09.519 --> 00:49:14.000
if I want to take that on, but we'll see. Jason, what

832
00:49:14.039 --> 00:49:16.239
do you make of the Saturday playoffs
here. To me, it was surprising

833
00:49:16.280 --> 00:49:20.920
that it was one year and now
it's like, well it feels pretty permanent.

834
00:49:20.960 --> 00:49:22.280
I mean I was surprised. Yeah. Well, I think they want

835
00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:25.239
to be more consistent this time around, because I think it was two thousand

836
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:28.480
and eight that they did it on
Saturday just for the one year, and

837
00:49:28.480 --> 00:49:30.960
then they changed it right back to
Sunday. So I think they want to

838
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:32.840
at least give it some runway and
give them some you know, more of

839
00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:37.679
a sample size for it. My
one week, because I like the Saturday

840
00:49:37.679 --> 00:49:40.079
games by one week, would be
to just play it at one o'clock Eastern

841
00:49:40.159 --> 00:49:45.119
and four o'clock Eastern and avoid the
hockey night in Canada, you know,

842
00:49:45.280 --> 00:49:50.440
audience, because hockey in Canada is
really the big player in Canadian sports television.

843
00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:53.920
Yeah, I mean, you know, I don't. This isn't exactly

844
00:49:53.920 --> 00:49:57.639
my wheelhouse in terms of football scheduling, but I did enjoy, you know,

845
00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:00.280
having the games on Saturdays. I
think, you know, from the

846
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:04.440
US perspective, when you're not like, you know, I'm streaming the games

847
00:50:04.480 --> 00:50:07.559
off CFL Plus, right, so
it's a bit different because you're not you

848
00:50:07.559 --> 00:50:10.280
know, actively browsing through channels and
I know, like on Saturdays, I

849
00:50:10.320 --> 00:50:13.840
mean, that's a big college football
day, you know, so you can't

850
00:50:14.719 --> 00:50:16.360
you know, yeah, you're you're
trying to maybe get away from the NFL,

851
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:19.400
but you can't get away from everything. You know, there's gonna have

852
00:50:19.440 --> 00:50:22.880
to be some overlap. And then
in terms of you know, U sports

853
00:50:22.880 --> 00:50:24.400
and that kind of overlap. That's
not really my wheelhouse either, but I

854
00:50:24.440 --> 00:50:28.039
think, you know, it is
important to keep you know, growing and

855
00:50:28.039 --> 00:50:31.880
developing the Canadian game and to making
to make sure you know that these schedules

856
00:50:31.920 --> 00:50:35.679
are somewhat separated. I think that's
also important too. So there's a lot

857
00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:37.880
to consider, you know. I'm
just gonna say, Hockey Night in Canada

858
00:50:38.000 --> 00:50:42.039
is gonna be Hockey Night in Canada. This is like the NFL piece here

859
00:50:42.159 --> 00:50:45.800
too. Play those two CFL games, follow it up with it with a

860
00:50:45.920 --> 00:50:51.360
U sport playoff game that goes up
against Hockey Night in Canada, because hockey

861
00:50:51.360 --> 00:50:54.440
eyes are gonna go to hockey.
Football wise are gonna go to football.

862
00:50:54.800 --> 00:51:00.840
Like they're starting at a very very
low foundation, and terms of their numbers

863
00:51:00.840 --> 00:51:04.920
because they've been off TV for so
long, if they just get on TV,

864
00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:07.519
there will be numbers that migrate to
it, that'll be a plus,

865
00:51:07.559 --> 00:51:15.159
because you know, seventy one hundred
and forty two hundred thousand plus zero is

866
00:51:15.199 --> 00:51:19.280
still those numbers, and that's what
they're getting right now in that CBC gym

867
00:51:19.320 --> 00:51:23.079
world they're in in terms of the
relationships right now with all the football and

868
00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:25.639
I know we went through all the
CBA stuff last year and they being like,

869
00:51:25.679 --> 00:51:29.800
how are you feeling in terms of
the CFL working and kind of communication

870
00:51:29.920 --> 00:51:32.239
with U Sports and kind of everything
else in general. Well, to put

871
00:51:32.239 --> 00:51:37.239
the U Sports thing aside, I
think from the Football Canada perspective, with

872
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:40.320
FLAG going into the Olympics, I
think that's opened up a lot of opportunities,

873
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:45.679
not just for ourselves putting two teams
into the Olympic Games, but an

874
00:51:45.719 --> 00:51:51.199
opportunity for the CFL to find ways
to work with us so we can evaluate

875
00:51:51.559 --> 00:51:55.639
athletes, because right now, we
send a club team that wins a club

876
00:51:55.719 --> 00:52:00.639
competition into global competition, and most
nations don't do that. And in a

877
00:52:00.679 --> 00:52:05.920
country as vast as Canada, we
need to find these points where we can

878
00:52:06.079 --> 00:52:12.719
run combine like activities and have numbers
that we can start evaluating athletes with.

879
00:52:12.840 --> 00:52:17.480
I think the CFL is a potential
partner in that. There's a program that's

880
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:22.119
also going to be announced very soon
about officials development. CFL is going to

881
00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:27.039
be a part of that. So
whatever turbulence was in the past, that's

882
00:52:27.079 --> 00:52:30.719
in the past right now, and
at the end of the day, I

883
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:36.079
think the CFL has assessed what's going
on at the grassroots level, assess the

884
00:52:36.159 --> 00:52:38.920
role of football Canada and is willing
to step up big time in a way

885
00:52:38.960 --> 00:52:43.119
they haven't before. And that's a
real change in direction from some of the

886
00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:46.800
previous conversations we've had. What do
you attribute that to. I think it's

887
00:52:46.800 --> 00:52:51.199
a refocus on their part. I
think they went down a certain path.

888
00:52:51.320 --> 00:52:53.320
Some of it was working, some
of it wasn't working. And I think

889
00:52:53.320 --> 00:53:00.000
in addition to that, there's probably
new owners an around the table that havent

890
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:06.440
to grassroots football here. Carl Pelado
from Quebec City knows the effect of the

891
00:53:06.519 --> 00:53:09.800
Laval Rouge or in that market,
right. Lamar Doman, I've had discussions

892
00:53:09.840 --> 00:53:15.760
with him, especially on the SFU
piece. He's committed to grassroots football.

893
00:53:15.079 --> 00:53:20.960
I mean he coaches his son's flag
teams and has made investments in those flag

894
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:24.360
programs. So when you have that
change in ownership and those new voices around

895
00:53:24.440 --> 00:53:30.400
that table of essentially Randy's bosses,
They're going to take a look at different

896
00:53:30.400 --> 00:53:35.519
ways to approach grassroots football and see
a value in not just developing football players,

897
00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:38.960
but also developing the next generation of
fans. And that's something the CFL

898
00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:43.840
needs in those nine markets. Jason
thoughts, Oh, yeah, for sure,

899
00:53:43.840 --> 00:53:46.559
I think that. Yeah, getting
the grassroots involved. I think even

900
00:53:46.559 --> 00:53:50.000
if you look at the festival this
week, they're doing a lot of things

901
00:53:50.039 --> 00:53:53.440
with they have a flag football field
set up in the armory here in Hamilton.

902
00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:57.960
They're doing a bunch of stuff for
kids to get involved and just be

903
00:53:58.039 --> 00:54:01.079
exposed to the CFL game or be
around the league. So I think that's

904
00:54:01.119 --> 00:54:05.800
really important for the CFL going forward. Jim, I want to talk about

905
00:54:06.920 --> 00:54:08.360
the ownership and all of that now, Like you said, getting these new

906
00:54:08.440 --> 00:54:13.760
voices in, how important is that
here in twenty twenty three, and because

907
00:54:13.800 --> 00:54:16.039
you Randy came out, Okay,
we're up this and the demos are good

908
00:54:16.079 --> 00:54:20.239
and everything's rosy, Like, how
what do you attribute that growth to?

909
00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:22.800
Is it getting these new owners in. We're seeing success in Toronto, you

910
00:54:22.840 --> 00:54:25.719
know on the field that helps and
then you have AMR Pierre, Like you

911
00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:30.119
know, it feels like certain markets
and maybe weren't healthy before a healthy now

912
00:54:30.239 --> 00:54:34.039
are you what do you attribute that
to? Well, I think there is

913
00:54:34.039 --> 00:54:37.760
some new energy with those new owners, and the new energy came in just

914
00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:43.280
in time after the pandemic. I
think the CFL really paid the price for

915
00:54:43.400 --> 00:54:49.840
not even having some sort of bubble
competition for six weeks or six games,

916
00:54:49.480 --> 00:54:53.079
and a lot of those fans discovered
that there were other things to do that

917
00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:58.239
there was that twenty percent drop off
of people that just didn't return, so

918
00:54:58.320 --> 00:55:01.480
a lot of that that can diruction
back is now giving them momentum. I

919
00:55:01.559 --> 00:55:06.480
think I think I feel momentum around
the league right now, guys, I

920
00:55:07.119 --> 00:55:10.760
really do. I think there are
some things that are getting traction, some

921
00:55:10.840 --> 00:55:15.559
things they're doing right. They're certainly
not out of the woods yet, but

922
00:55:15.679 --> 00:55:21.400
at least the direction is positive.
I sure hope that it's not just talk

923
00:55:21.480 --> 00:55:25.719
around Halifax though. I sure hope
that that there's that focus on that tenth

924
00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:30.920
team because that would be a game
changer for this league. Are you viewing

925
00:55:30.960 --> 00:55:34.320
evan kind of positive energy right now
in the CFL? Absolutely? And I

926
00:55:34.320 --> 00:55:37.840
think all this discussion has actually brought
up a point that I haven't thought about

927
00:55:37.840 --> 00:55:40.360
in a while, and that would
be sort of the global development of you

928
00:55:40.360 --> 00:55:44.400
know, the CFL and maybe just
Canadian football in general. I know,

929
00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:46.840
I think it was back in twenty
nineteen the CFL had a joint draft with

930
00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:51.239
the LFA league in Mexico. And
now you're seeing a lot more guys,

931
00:55:51.639 --> 00:55:53.159
I mean, you know, besides
the Australian punters obviously, right. I

932
00:55:53.199 --> 00:55:57.840
mean Toronto just had a kick or
come in in that last game against Saskatchewan

933
00:55:57.840 --> 00:56:00.800
in the regular season who was a
Spanish to send who played in the LFA.

934
00:56:00.920 --> 00:56:02.679
Now he struggled in that game.
But they're bringing these guys in and

935
00:56:02.760 --> 00:56:06.800
given them playing time. And I
think what's really important too is again not

936
00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:09.400
just specialists, but guys you know, from overseas, other positions, maybe

937
00:56:09.440 --> 00:56:15.000
defensive end for example. That's something
that I'm really interested to see continue to

938
00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:17.519
develop because I think the CFL is
a very diversely guest. There's only nine

939
00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:21.519
teams. Yes, there's work that
needs to be done, but this game

940
00:56:21.559 --> 00:56:23.280
can grow, you know, and
I take I take great pride in being

941
00:56:23.480 --> 00:56:27.480
at least some part of that.
Jim is someone that you know, we

942
00:56:27.519 --> 00:56:30.280
talk a lot of Mariners, a
lot of American sports as well, and

943
00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:31.920
you know, we get into all
that and oh Tani, you know that

944
00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:35.159
what was it the article that came
out? But I want to get your

945
00:56:35.159 --> 00:56:38.800
thoughts team sell the team. I
want to get your thoughts on the CFL

946
00:56:38.840 --> 00:56:42.360
plus and all of this. We
talked a little bit before with Darryl and

947
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:45.679
the you know, Great Cup only
available online, not streaming. You know,

948
00:56:45.719 --> 00:56:47.920
the CBS Sports Network package carried a
lot more of the summer games.

949
00:56:49.519 --> 00:56:51.679
What do you make of that of
trying to you know, and it's not

950
00:56:51.719 --> 00:56:53.760
just America, it's international. If
you're outside of Canada, the only way

951
00:56:53.760 --> 00:56:57.679
to watch the Great Cup is online, which it's great that it's available,

952
00:56:57.719 --> 00:57:00.920
but that's still cutting down the large
demo of people that aren't able to figure

953
00:57:00.920 --> 00:57:02.559
out, as easy as it might
be, figure out how to access that.

954
00:57:02.559 --> 00:57:07.920
That's right, you don't get collisions
if you're not on on standard linear

955
00:57:07.079 --> 00:57:12.280
television, and you're missing out still
on a lot of people that are out

956
00:57:12.320 --> 00:57:15.400
there that could be consuming your product. That being said, I think the

957
00:57:15.480 --> 00:57:20.960
league in the league office was in
a position where they wanted to get revenue

958
00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:23.239
for whatever games they had, So
this was the path for them to bring

959
00:57:23.280 --> 00:57:27.960
in revenue and fund the things that
they need to do through their to their

960
00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:32.519
front office in Toronto. You know, at the end of the day,

961
00:57:32.559 --> 00:57:37.679
I think that they would like something
that's a little more comprehensive than accessible to

962
00:57:37.760 --> 00:57:44.159
the American and international fan. But
I think that they they needed the cash

963
00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:46.519
in through the front door, and
by doing it this way, they got

964
00:57:46.519 --> 00:57:51.679
the cash in through the front door. Let's see what Let's see what CBS

965
00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:57.599
Sports Network does in future years.
So we don't get a vm I what

966
00:57:57.760 --> 00:58:00.400
is a BMI Arizona basketball game re
emptying the Gray Cup. I mean,

967
00:58:00.400 --> 00:58:05.639
that's that is kind of embarrassing.
But we also need to remember when this

968
00:58:05.719 --> 00:58:08.880
deal came together. Well, it
came together really late in the game.

969
00:58:09.079 --> 00:58:14.639
So you know, some of these
contracts that that CBS has in place,

970
00:58:15.239 --> 00:58:20.760
they have to realize these contracts.
So it's even though it feels like right

971
00:58:20.800 --> 00:58:23.960
now this week that this isn't the
greatest deal, at least it's available on

972
00:58:24.480 --> 00:58:30.360
CFL plus. My feeling though with
it is when Randy comes out at the

973
00:58:30.400 --> 00:58:32.480
Fans State of the Union and says, yeah, in twenty twenty six will

974
00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:36.920
reevaluate that. I mean that's eternity
from that. I mean that's when the

975
00:58:36.960 --> 00:58:39.519
other deal like that's forever. Yeah. Yeah, that's a long ways off,

976
00:58:39.599 --> 00:58:43.440
isn't it. Well, Hopefully,
like within the deal that they have,

977
00:58:44.159 --> 00:58:47.079
they can find that path to that
to Gray Cup Sunday, Hopefully they

978
00:58:47.079 --> 00:58:52.199
can find find that path to games
later in the season that aren't being picked

979
00:58:52.239 --> 00:58:57.599
up in that package, or hopefully
they can find a path to splitting their

980
00:58:57.599 --> 00:59:00.440
contract in the United States. I'm
keeping an out here. I think Farhan

981
00:59:00.480 --> 00:59:02.920
and Nayl are supposed to come see. We'll keep you if you need to

982
00:59:02.920 --> 00:59:07.000
go. Dorothy can pop in here
and fill in before we go. Thoughts

983
00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:09.639
on the game itself here, and
we'll get some comments from Evan and Jason.

984
00:59:10.039 --> 00:59:13.360
Thoughts on it. Are we excited? What do you make of the

985
00:59:13.400 --> 00:59:15.960
actual breakup game? Well, I
saw the simulation that was played out that

986
00:59:16.079 --> 00:59:21.800
had it was played out ten thousand
times, which said that the Bombers would

987
00:59:21.840 --> 00:59:25.800
win twenty seven to twenty four.
I think the gap is going to be

988
00:59:27.280 --> 00:59:31.440
much broader and it's going to be
lower scoring. I like what Montreal can

989
00:59:31.480 --> 00:59:36.639
do on their defense in many different
ways. Got great speed, out of

990
00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:40.119
the defensive backfield. You know.
Mike Hogan of the Argos pointed out to

991
00:59:40.159 --> 00:59:45.880
me, says, how many times? How many times did did Montreal's quarterback

992
00:59:45.920 --> 00:59:50.519
get sacked in that last the game
was at seven or eight? Yea it

993
00:59:50.559 --> 00:59:53.079
was I think it was eight times, and he threw for two hundred yards,

994
00:59:53.519 --> 00:59:59.280
Yet the scoreboard was the way it
was. Like, if you give

995
00:59:59.320 --> 01:00:02.960
me those two stats, I'm saying
the Argos are are winning that game nineteen

996
01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:07.719
times out of twenty. This just
happened to be the twentieth game. I

997
01:00:07.719 --> 01:00:10.760
don't see Montreal scoring a lot of
points in this game. I see them

998
01:00:10.960 --> 01:00:16.320
like in the eleven to fourteen range. I see Winnipeg scrape and something out

999
01:00:16.360 --> 01:00:22.800
in the low twenties to mid twenties. I think it's gonna be a bit

1000
01:00:22.840 --> 01:00:28.559
of a wet firecracker on Sunday.
Evan, what do you responts to that?

1001
01:00:29.480 --> 01:00:31.719
I mean, I think I agree
with it being low scoring, but

1002
01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:37.039
you know Montreal, Like I didn't
pick Montreal, Okay, I haven't made

1003
01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:39.079
my official prediction yet, but I
do like Winnipeg. I just think,

1004
01:00:39.119 --> 01:00:42.239
you know, Montreal just keeps fine
in a way. You know, I

1005
01:00:42.519 --> 01:00:45.599
think their offense. You know,
I said earlier before you were here that

1006
01:00:45.599 --> 01:00:49.199
that was probably the most concerning you
know, on any side of the football,

1007
01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:52.280
whether you're Winnipeg or Montreal, they
really need to get moved and you

1008
01:00:52.360 --> 01:00:53.239
got to, you know, get
a couple of big plays down the field,

1009
01:00:53.280 --> 01:00:55.719
Austin Mack and if they can do
that, I think they have a

1010
01:00:55.800 --> 01:01:00.119
chance. But I think it'll be
yea all around a defensive game. I

1011
01:01:00.119 --> 01:01:02.000
don't know if there's going to be
I'm hoping it's close, right, I

1012
01:01:02.199 --> 01:01:07.280
don't know how big the gap will
be in scoring. I hope that Montreal

1013
01:01:07.320 --> 01:01:09.280
is able to keep it close on
whether they score on offense or score on

1014
01:01:09.360 --> 01:01:13.199
defense. But yeah, it's it's
an interesting one, for sure. I

1015
01:01:13.239 --> 01:01:15.119
think we can all agree. You
know, this maybe wasn't the quote unquote

1016
01:01:15.159 --> 01:01:20.519
sexiest Great Cup matchup. I was
saying, you know, I was saying

1017
01:01:20.519 --> 01:01:22.559
maybe last week that you know,
this was not like I could have gone

1018
01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:25.800
through, you know, so many
different matchups before I would have landed on

1019
01:01:25.800 --> 01:01:30.920
a Winnipeg Montreal, especially given you
know, Montreal, the fact that they

1020
01:01:30.960 --> 01:01:34.119
didn't beat you know, Toronto bcre
Winnipeg in the regular season. But now

1021
01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:36.400
none of that matters. They're here
and you know, we'll see where it

1022
01:01:36.480 --> 01:01:38.079
goes. Jason, I want to
get your thoughts on that because we were

1023
01:01:38.079 --> 01:01:43.199
talking to turnover my mike here,
we're talking to turnover battle and it felt

1024
01:01:43.199 --> 01:01:46.599
like when when Saskatchewan it was WINNI
big turn on the ball over six times

1025
01:01:46.599 --> 01:01:50.760
to saskatchw like and they still you
know, is the other way here.

1026
01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:52.400
Obviously the argo is lost, but
you know, within it, Bang looked

1027
01:01:52.559 --> 01:01:55.360
incredibly strong that year in terms of
we can turn the ball over this many

1028
01:01:55.440 --> 01:02:00.519
times and still beat you like Montreal
they got a lot of free on that.

1029
01:02:00.239 --> 01:02:04.480
Yeah, for sure. I think
that really the formula for Montreal to

1030
01:02:04.480 --> 01:02:07.719
win this game, and it's been
working for them the whole year is non

1031
01:02:07.800 --> 01:02:09.400
offensive touchdowns. I think they had
twelve of them this year or something like

1032
01:02:09.440 --> 01:02:13.519
that, because they had a lot
of return touchdowns and a lot of defensive

1033
01:02:13.559 --> 01:02:15.800
touchdowns. If they get one or
more of those in this game, I

1034
01:02:15.840 --> 01:02:21.920
think they have a shot to win. Jim thoughts on the mop debate here,

1035
01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:23.639
We have had a lot of discussion
about the Chad Kelly of it all

1036
01:02:23.719 --> 01:02:27.440
versus Brady Oliver. I wanted to
get your thoughts on that. There's no

1037
01:02:27.480 --> 01:02:30.079
debate for me. Chad Kelly is
the MLP of the Canadian Football League.

1038
01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:36.679
And even saying that, you know, we know about the imbalance schedule between

1039
01:02:36.679 --> 01:02:39.599
the West and the East. We
know how Toronto Putt only played certain teams

1040
01:02:39.679 --> 01:02:44.639
one time. But you know,
this is a team that went sixteen and

1041
01:02:44.719 --> 01:02:46.920
two. Wasn't active in all of
those games, but most of those games.

1042
01:02:47.599 --> 01:02:52.559
And and yes he had a tremendous
supporting cast, but you know,

1043
01:02:52.599 --> 01:02:57.840
in terms of MP there's also a
star power piece attached to it too.

1044
01:02:57.920 --> 01:03:04.639
There's the ability to sell the game. I'm reminded of the nineteen eighty NBA

1045
01:03:04.960 --> 01:03:08.800
Final when everyone tought Kareem Abdul Jabbar
was supposed to be the winner, and

1046
01:03:08.880 --> 01:03:16.320
Sport magazine actually voted him the MVP
of the NBA Finals and he didn't play

1047
01:03:16.320 --> 01:03:21.519
in Game seven and the NBA play
at he said, Mitya Johnson, you

1048
01:03:22.079 --> 01:03:24.400
are going to be the star of
this league. You're the MVP of the

1049
01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:29.239
final. Because they went after star
power, and they went after someone that

1050
01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:31.440
could sell the game, and it's
important to have somebody that's going to sell

1051
01:03:31.480 --> 01:03:38.199
the game in Canada's biggest media center
period and for those reasons in addition to

1052
01:03:38.360 --> 01:03:42.199
his play on the field. That's
why he is the most outstanding player in

1053
01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:45.119
the league. Now. Then against
Brady oliverra by the way, who I

1054
01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:51.679
went down and saw play in a
sophomore year in North Dakota. This guy's

1055
01:03:51.679 --> 01:03:53.840
got a lot to give you.
He had a fantastic year and outstanding year,

1056
01:03:53.880 --> 01:03:58.480
but he's not as important to this
league as Chad Kelly is. I

1057
01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:00.400
got one last question. Far Han
and the nailor just texted they're on their

1058
01:04:00.400 --> 01:04:02.840
way up. So we got Dan
standing by. We'll get to everyone here.

1059
01:04:02.880 --> 01:04:08.079
I appreciate uh. In terms of
going back to the balance schedule here,

1060
01:04:08.719 --> 01:04:10.719
why was it not? I mean, I'm not as smart as you

1061
01:04:10.719 --> 01:04:12.440
know. They say. Everyone who's
in the holler is like, well,

1062
01:04:12.480 --> 01:04:15.480
yah, what was the deal here? Why? Why did we ever vv

1063
01:04:15.559 --> 01:04:18.800
it away from that? There you
go, there's your answer. I mean,

1064
01:04:19.119 --> 01:04:24.280
you take a look at the travel, train, travel bus, travel,

1065
01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:29.480
shorter travel in Western Canada. It
was a money consideration, just like

1066
01:04:29.800 --> 01:04:33.159
just like the consideration with CBS Sports
Network. It's about getting money in the

1067
01:04:33.159 --> 01:04:38.119
door after having a couple of bad
seasons and coming off a pandemic season.

1068
01:04:38.639 --> 01:04:45.039
So you know how can you How
can you argue when when you're financially challenged

1069
01:04:45.599 --> 01:04:49.559
not to not not to do something
where you're you're addressing some of your business

1070
01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:55.079
model. I'm glad to see that
the business model is stabilized enough that we

1071
01:04:55.119 --> 01:04:59.159
can run a real balance schedule.
And it's kind of imbalanced to you get

1072
01:04:59.159 --> 01:05:01.840
a couple of teams playing each other
three times a year instead of instead of

1073
01:05:01.920 --> 01:05:04.599
twice a year. But for the
most part, everybody gets to play each

1074
01:05:04.599 --> 01:05:09.840
other twice, and you'll get a
truer test of the Argos next year.

1075
01:05:10.800 --> 01:05:14.679
The Argos will not be a sixty
to two team if they have to play

1076
01:05:14.960 --> 01:05:18.760
a home and homes with everybody across
the board. I guess I didn't realize

1077
01:05:18.800 --> 01:05:23.320
that Jason, that Toronto was getting
flack that they didn't play as bal as

1078
01:05:23.400 --> 01:05:29.199
the schedule. Well, they didn't
play BC NBC and they didn't play Winnipeg

1079
01:05:29.239 --> 01:05:31.559
at home, so they played only
those two top two teams from the West

1080
01:05:31.719 --> 01:05:35.639
only once each and obviously that Winnipeg
game didn't matter at that point of the

1081
01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:39.880
season. So yeah, I'm very
interested to see how it works out next

1082
01:05:39.960 --> 01:05:43.440
year when it goes back to the
balance schedule. One thing I'm looking forward

1083
01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:45.880
forward to is seeing if there's a
crossover team next year, because the last

1084
01:05:45.880 --> 01:05:48.880
three years we haven't seen a crossover
team. But the last time there was

1085
01:05:48.920 --> 01:05:54.119
a balance schedule in twenty nineteen,
Edmonton crossed over. So Rebi I,

1086
01:05:54.119 --> 01:05:56.800
Evan, any comments from you I
see in our next guests come in here,

1087
01:05:56.880 --> 01:05:59.440
Jim, I appreciate it. Anything
else from your first time, we'll

1088
01:05:59.440 --> 01:06:03.119
go to have it. I just
saw them just pass right by here right.

1089
01:06:03.199 --> 01:06:08.840
You know, I'm getting a back
ache from carrying them, so so

1090
01:06:09.320 --> 01:06:14.320
if you can get me some advil
from to address my back eight from carrying

1091
01:06:14.360 --> 01:06:16.159
those those two plouts, I would
be appreciated. Yeah, we have the

1092
01:06:16.199 --> 01:06:19.119
investigator jurists here. Well, hey, Dorothy, could she go track down

1093
01:06:19.320 --> 01:06:21.480
Jim, Thank you so much.
Maybe you can pass along the message to

1094
01:06:21.519 --> 01:06:25.079
Dorothy here. Thank you so much. There we go. Okay, they

1095
01:06:25.119 --> 01:06:27.280
found it. They found it.
We'll get him on here. We'll get

1096
01:06:27.320 --> 01:06:30.840
them on here. Whenever you were
waiting for you guys here and get on

1097
01:06:30.880 --> 01:06:32.840
here. We got come on the
other side. Please. We got Dave

1098
01:06:32.920 --> 01:06:39.360
Naylor Farhan coming on here. A
little movie chairs here, Evanson taking a

1099
01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:41.719
seat here, we got Naylor,
I will give that one. Here.

1100
01:06:41.719 --> 01:06:45.199
Good to see you guys walking the
big investigative journalists of the CFL. Walk

1101
01:06:45.280 --> 01:06:48.760
right on by the mark As booth
here. I got a question first,

1102
01:06:48.800 --> 01:06:51.880
we'll get both of you. I
have heard a lot this week. I

1103
01:06:51.920 --> 01:06:55.679
know that there's a lot of you
know, media politickings and all that.

1104
01:06:55.840 --> 01:06:59.800
Did Jack Kelly have a concussion when
he played the East Finals? I mean

1105
01:07:00.039 --> 01:07:04.840
our conversations with people around the Toronto
Argonauts and the Canadian Football League There is

1106
01:07:05.719 --> 01:07:11.440
nothing to indicate that he had a
concussion during that game. And you know

1107
01:07:11.519 --> 01:07:14.800
that that is just from those sources
and those people that were around that,

1108
01:07:14.800 --> 01:07:16.800
I mean the concussions, the league's
concussion spot are you know, various people

1109
01:07:16.800 --> 01:07:20.719
on the Toronto Argonauts staff and in
that organization. We cannot find no evidence

1110
01:07:20.719 --> 01:07:24.519
that he had a concussion during that
game. Yeah, people looking at it

1111
01:07:24.559 --> 01:07:26.880
after the fact and they're trying to
look for that moment in game where they

1112
01:07:26.920 --> 01:07:29.559
might have missed it. And look, it's a tricky topic, right because

1113
01:07:29.559 --> 01:07:31.480
it's easy to say that, you
know, Chad Kelly's looking for an excuse

1114
01:07:31.519 --> 01:07:33.280
because he had a poor game or
what have you. I mean, and

1115
01:07:33.480 --> 01:07:35.719
that narrative is out there. But
at the end of the day, you

1116
01:07:35.760 --> 01:07:39.599
don't know when concussions do or don't
occur in a game, and it's not

1117
01:07:39.679 --> 01:07:42.880
always the obvious. So we're not
sitting here saying he didn't have them.

1118
01:07:43.199 --> 01:07:45.559
But certainly the people around the team
and around the league that are looking at

1119
01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:48.639
it are are, I don't want
to say skeptical, but there's still a

1120
01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:51.679
little bit of confusion on the topic. For sure. What do we make

1121
01:07:51.760 --> 01:07:57.119
of this, the bilingualness of the
stadium and everything going on here. I've

1122
01:07:57.119 --> 01:08:00.480
seen a lot of reports coming out
about the league embarrassed. It is true,

1123
01:08:00.559 --> 01:08:02.079
is it with the having the CFL
logo and all of that on the

1124
01:08:02.079 --> 01:08:05.960
field and everything in French? Is
that accurate? I have heard about this

1125
01:08:06.039 --> 01:08:09.760
issue. This is not one I've
had a chance to dig into. And

1126
01:08:09.800 --> 01:08:12.599
when I was asked about it,
I was at the Armory, where the

1127
01:08:12.639 --> 01:08:15.840
festival is and where our TSN stage
is, and I looked out across the

1128
01:08:15.880 --> 01:08:20.960
signage at the Armory and I did
not see anything in French. And so

1129
01:08:21.000 --> 01:08:24.039
that that is only what I can
tell you because I was at the Armory

1130
01:08:24.079 --> 01:08:27.880
when this issue was brought to my
attention. But given the nature of our

1131
01:08:27.960 --> 01:08:30.039
day today. It has not been
something we have had a lot of time

1132
01:08:30.079 --> 01:08:31.640
to dig into. Is that a
big deal to Evning, Yeah, it

1133
01:08:31.680 --> 01:08:34.079
is in this country. I mean
this is this is a bilingual country.

1134
01:08:34.079 --> 01:08:38.600
It's a bilingual league. You've got
a team from Quebec in it. You

1135
01:08:38.640 --> 01:08:43.560
know. I don't know that it's
necessarily on Hamilton to do all of that

1136
01:08:43.600 --> 01:08:45.880
throughout the city, but certainly as
far as being in the stadium, you

1137
01:08:45.920 --> 01:08:49.119
want to make sure that that's reflective
of the Great Cup game and what's going

1138
01:08:49.159 --> 01:08:51.000
on in the field. Well,
and it was an issue that was brought

1139
01:08:51.000 --> 01:08:54.720
to the attention of the commissioner during
this State of the League address on Tuesday

1140
01:08:54.760 --> 01:08:58.279
that Oh Canada. When it was
performed at the East Division final in Toronto

1141
01:08:58.359 --> 01:09:02.119
with Montreal, there was performed unilingually
in English. The commissioner explained that the

1142
01:09:02.720 --> 01:09:08.119
anthem singer that was selected by the
Argonauts was not capable of singing it in

1143
01:09:08.159 --> 01:09:12.000
French. What is going on with
McCleod Bethel Thompson. That is I think

1144
01:09:12.079 --> 01:09:14.720
McLeod's gonna be back in the Canadian
football picture. No, I don't think

1145
01:09:14.720 --> 01:09:17.159
that's a slam dunk. I have
spoken to his agent who's here in Hamilton

1146
01:09:17.239 --> 01:09:20.199
this week And McLeod wants to keep
playing. He's gonna be thirty six next

1147
01:09:20.279 --> 01:09:25.119
January. Spring football is still an
option for him. He was in the

1148
01:09:25.239 --> 01:09:28.039
USFL, he had a lot of
success there. He could potentially go back

1149
01:09:28.079 --> 01:09:30.960
there. But I get the sense
that if somebody could, you know,

1150
01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:33.920
offer him a starting job and everything
that goes with that, my sense is

1151
01:09:33.960 --> 01:09:36.479
he probably would lean to coming back
here. We'll see if that fit is

1152
01:09:36.520 --> 01:09:39.479
there. You know, talking to
people around the league, I think a

1153
01:09:39.479 --> 01:09:42.560
lot of people are going to kick
the tires on McLeod. Who's going to

1154
01:09:42.680 --> 01:09:45.960
dive right in and say it's your
job. Maybe Ottawa, And that's not

1155
01:09:46.000 --> 01:09:50.560
something we've heard from Ottawa. That's
just us kind of evaluating the situations and

1156
01:09:50.560 --> 01:09:56.560
who's available at quarterback league wide.
But yeah, I think there's a real

1157
01:09:56.640 --> 01:09:59.720
possibility that he comes back. And
you know, this is this is kind

1158
01:09:59.720 --> 01:10:00.640
of a f about what's going on. I mean, you know obviously about

1159
01:10:00.640 --> 01:10:03.520
what's going on in the XFL and
the USFL more than we do, but

1160
01:10:03.600 --> 01:10:06.279
there is a little bit of There
are some players that are a little nervous,

1161
01:10:06.319 --> 01:10:10.880
right Like I talked to some I
talked to some executives, and they

1162
01:10:10.880 --> 01:10:15.319
have said we've been able to sign
a couple of players earlier than we would

1163
01:10:15.359 --> 01:10:17.119
have at this time last year when
everybody wanted to wait. Now there's some

1164
01:10:17.159 --> 01:10:20.520
guys that are a little nervous just
because the timing and schedules haven't been set

1165
01:10:20.560 --> 01:10:25.439
yet. I don't know if McCloud
necessarily fits into that category, but you

1166
01:10:25.479 --> 01:10:29.760
know interesting that he has got eyes
wide open in terms of possibly coming back.

1167
01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:30.920
I'll go to you in a second
half. And I got one more

1168
01:10:30.920 --> 01:10:34.000
for Dave because they reminded me of
that. I saw your tweet this morning.

1169
01:10:34.159 --> 01:10:38.640
Yet a little change in too,
and of like the CFL doesn't have

1170
01:10:38.720 --> 01:10:42.119
to worry about the spring league now
there's so much uncertainly. I just thought

1171
01:10:42.119 --> 01:10:45.680
it was funny because what he said, you just said they've fought off many

1172
01:10:45.760 --> 01:10:48.800
challengers. Yeah, yeah, we've
conquered alf of No. I think that

1173
01:10:48.880 --> 01:10:54.199
we're saying is that the direction of
things. Look look when when the XFL

1174
01:10:54.319 --> 01:10:57.279
CFL merger was happening, Let's remember
what was going on. The Canadan Football

1175
01:10:57.319 --> 01:10:59.560
League hadn't played in a year.
You know, there were teams that didn't

1176
01:10:59.560 --> 01:11:01.840
have money. There was a league
that was you know, basically the coffers

1177
01:11:01.840 --> 01:11:05.560
were empty, and that was that
the consideration of that possibility, Let's be

1178
01:11:05.760 --> 01:11:10.880
honest about it was brought about by
desperation and all you know, as reporters

1179
01:11:10.920 --> 01:11:13.680
on that and we're asked for our
opinions, all far Hunt and I ever

1180
01:11:13.720 --> 01:11:15.680
did was advocate that they needed to
explore it thoroughly, which they did.

1181
01:11:15.800 --> 01:11:19.359
Okay, we never said they need
to do this or die or things those

1182
01:11:19.399 --> 01:11:21.600
things that have been put in our
mouths. That is not what we said

1183
01:11:21.640 --> 01:11:27.640
at the time. Now, I
think what was happening and is our understanding

1184
01:11:27.680 --> 01:11:30.479
that in the new league, the
coach's salary structure will be more like the

1185
01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:34.479
USFL than the XFL, and that's
going to reduce competition for the Canadian Football

1186
01:11:34.520 --> 01:11:38.039
League in terms of coaches. So
that is one sort of you know,

1187
01:11:38.239 --> 01:11:41.000
challenger on the on the coaching front
that's going to be I think diminished.

1188
01:11:41.079 --> 01:11:44.560
And I just think the general uncertainty
you know about these leagues. I mean,

1189
01:11:44.760 --> 01:11:45.920
what's the schedule of this league?
You know, where the city?

1190
01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:49.560
All these kinds of questions that still
remain unanswered by the time you get to

1191
01:11:49.600 --> 01:11:54.720
November. We know football, professional
football is and uncertain enough business as it

1192
01:11:54.840 --> 01:11:57.800
is. If I was a player, I guess I could look north and

1193
01:11:57.840 --> 01:11:59.920
say, well, I know where
the teams are, and I know when

1194
01:11:59.920 --> 01:12:01.560
the season starts, and I know
who the coaches and the GMS are.

1195
01:12:01.600 --> 01:12:04.560
I mean, there's just a lot
more stability north of the border than south

1196
01:12:04.600 --> 01:12:09.119
right now when it comes to what
we still term alternative professional football. And

1197
01:12:09.119 --> 01:12:12.000
you know me, I'm not a
spring football hater. I've always been that

1198
01:12:12.000 --> 01:12:14.560
guy that says, more football is
good football. You know that. So

1199
01:12:14.640 --> 01:12:16.880
I'm happy to come hang out with
you to see Dragon's game at any point.

1200
01:12:20.199 --> 01:12:24.039
Well, so, like I said, so for us like, there's

1201
01:12:24.079 --> 01:12:27.880
certainly no celebration or glee, Like
I think more football is good. But

1202
01:12:28.159 --> 01:12:30.039
you know, just what's happened from
everything we've heard, is that I think

1203
01:12:30.079 --> 01:12:34.840
initially the XFL wanted to or the
USFL wanted to stay on their later timeline

1204
01:12:34.880 --> 01:12:40.239
relative to the XFL. So you
know, we'll see what happens there in

1205
01:12:40.279 --> 01:12:43.159
terms of when they start, did
they want to move earlier? Could they

1206
01:12:43.199 --> 01:12:45.000
pull that off at this stage of
the game or stage of the calendar.

1207
01:12:45.039 --> 01:12:47.279
I think it's stuff, But you
know, me, for one, I

1208
01:12:47.680 --> 01:12:50.000
hope there's a spring football league,
right. I mean, I've always said

1209
01:12:50.079 --> 01:12:53.600
to you, I didn't think both
were going to survive, but I was

1210
01:12:53.640 --> 01:12:56.399
hopeful that one would and I still
am. Yeah, we're talking to a

1211
01:12:56.520 --> 01:12:58.800
challenge. We're talking about challenges for
players and coaches. I mean, that's

1212
01:12:58.800 --> 01:13:00.800
where the competition exists. And I
think, you know, the CFL seems

1213
01:13:00.800 --> 01:13:02.840
to be coming out on the high
side of that. And you know,

1214
01:13:02.840 --> 01:13:05.479
and if you want me to go
do sidelines for a USFL again, I

1215
01:13:05.520 --> 01:13:11.119
promise you I won't lie any information
that I get from coaches. Oh who's

1216
01:13:11.199 --> 01:13:14.359
lying? Oh? Come on?
Really? Oh I hear it, I

1217
01:13:14.399 --> 01:13:17.279
get it, I get it,
I got that drugs never gonna die.

1218
01:13:18.680 --> 01:13:20.560
I'm just telling you that, you
know, I could do a USFL game,

1219
01:13:20.560 --> 01:13:23.279
and I'll be truthful about it.
Though. Evan, what do you

1220
01:13:23.279 --> 01:13:24.960
got? You got Dave and the
bar on here? What do you want

1221
01:13:25.000 --> 01:13:26.880
to know? Yeah? Well,
I mean a couple of things. I'm

1222
01:13:26.880 --> 01:13:29.640
not sure we're gonna ask too many
questions, just a couple of clarifying points.

1223
01:13:29.640 --> 01:13:31.159
I think mccleoud, Bethel Thompson,
I'm not sure. You know,

1224
01:13:31.159 --> 01:13:33.359
he's a veteran, right, so
I don't know where he sits on,

1225
01:13:33.680 --> 01:13:36.079
you know, all the merger talks. I don't know if he reads much

1226
01:13:36.079 --> 01:13:40.560
into that. I think McCloud Bethel
Thompson probably feels more at home in Canada

1227
01:13:40.560 --> 01:13:42.880
now. He went to the USFL, you know, because he want to

1228
01:13:42.880 --> 01:13:45.520
be close to his family. That's
understandable. But I think because he was

1229
01:13:45.560 --> 01:13:46.760
in the CFL for you know,
so many years, and look, he

1230
01:13:46.760 --> 01:13:49.600
didn't prefer poorly in the USFL.
No, okay, but it didn't seem

1231
01:13:49.960 --> 01:13:53.159
you know, to me, at
least it didn't really, I don't know.

1232
01:13:53.239 --> 01:13:55.600
The fit to me didn't seem like
it was a long term future.

1233
01:13:55.640 --> 01:13:57.680
That's just me, you know.
I could see him coming back to the

1234
01:13:57.720 --> 01:14:00.319
Canadian Football League, you know,
in a starting role. He's a veteran.

1235
01:14:00.520 --> 01:14:02.880
People respect that, you know.
Talking about the merger stuff, I

1236
01:14:02.880 --> 01:14:06.439
think one of the more unique storylines, you know, coming out of the

1237
01:14:06.439 --> 01:14:10.960
Gray Cup here is Darnell saying King, who played with the Arlington Renegades won

1238
01:14:10.960 --> 01:14:14.800
the twenty twenty three XFL Championship,
signed late with Montreal, you know,

1239
01:14:14.880 --> 01:14:17.000
and him and Sean Lemon have obviously
been wrecking the game, you know,

1240
01:14:17.039 --> 01:14:20.760
and now sank he has an opportunity
here to win two pro football championships in

1241
01:14:20.760 --> 01:14:25.279
a year, and that's all great. The question I had, the one

1242
01:14:25.359 --> 01:14:27.920
question that I had because I want
to keep it for too long. We've

1243
01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:30.279
been talking a lot about it already. I don't want to overuse it as

1244
01:14:30.279 --> 01:14:33.760
our previous guests, But the MOP
debate, you've got Chad Kelly, you've

1245
01:14:33.760 --> 01:14:36.680
got Brady olver It's a hot topic. I know I thought Kelly was the

1246
01:14:36.720 --> 01:14:40.079
right decision. There were a lot
of people that thought Olavera was the right

1247
01:14:40.119 --> 01:14:42.479
decision. Where do you guys sit
on that? I'm very interested to hear.

1248
01:14:43.680 --> 01:14:45.600
Well. Look, I am a
huge, huge Chad Kelly fan,

1249
01:14:46.279 --> 01:14:49.840
and I mean week number two of
the season, I wrote a column saying

1250
01:14:50.079 --> 01:14:54.760
Chad Kelly is the most important player
in the Canadian Football League and I was

1251
01:14:54.840 --> 01:14:57.520
ridiculed for it. And I will
stand up right now and tell you the

1252
01:14:57.560 --> 01:15:01.880
most important player in the Canadian Football
LEA league is Chad Kelly. But when

1253
01:15:01.880 --> 01:15:06.800
it came to the MOV vote,
I don't. I think Brady Olivera did

1254
01:15:06.920 --> 01:15:12.760
his job better than any player in
the league this season. And on that

1255
01:15:12.920 --> 01:15:16.399
basis, I think Brady Olivera was
the most deserving to be the MOP and

1256
01:15:16.439 --> 01:15:19.960
I congratulated Chad after the show for
his attitude, for his presence, for

1257
01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:21.960
what he's meant for the city of
Toronto. This is not to take away

1258
01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:26.600
from Chad Kelly. I just think
overall, Brady olivera you know, fulfilled

1259
01:15:26.640 --> 01:15:30.079
his assignment, did what you're asking
his team asked him to do better than

1260
01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:32.119
anybody else. Yeah, it's most
outstanding players, not most valuable player,

1261
01:15:32.159 --> 01:15:34.760
right, And certainly Chad had value
to the franchise. He had value to

1262
01:15:34.760 --> 01:15:38.000
the league, you know, Vernon
Adams, we talked about what he was

1263
01:15:38.039 --> 01:15:43.199
asked to do in BC relative to
guys like Kelly and Zach Hillarris who've got

1264
01:15:43.199 --> 01:15:45.000
great old lines and great run games. But to Dave's point, you know,

1265
01:15:45.239 --> 01:15:49.239
when you stack up Brady Oliver's season, you know, on the higher

1266
01:15:49.359 --> 01:15:53.399
history of what a runs back does
in his history both you know, it's

1267
01:15:53.439 --> 01:15:57.399
been ten years since the guy's had
two thousand all purpose yards and fifteen hundred

1268
01:15:57.439 --> 01:16:00.960
rushing yards forty one hundred yards.
That's a huge day, you know what

1269
01:16:00.039 --> 01:16:03.640
I mean, Like that's any season
for a quarterback. So Chad Kelly was

1270
01:16:03.680 --> 01:16:08.359
good. I think you can overplay
wins because wins are not a quarterback stat

1271
01:16:08.479 --> 01:16:12.000
right, like they are not so
as great as that that is, you

1272
01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:14.199
know, and he didn't play that
game against Winnipeg. There's a number of

1273
01:16:14.239 --> 01:16:16.399
other things that put it into context. I would take Grady all day in

1274
01:16:16.399 --> 01:16:18.840
that debate. All right, last
question for you guys. We got Dan

1275
01:16:18.920 --> 01:16:21.159
Sandebai and that you guys are busy. I appreciate, you know, they're

1276
01:16:21.199 --> 01:16:27.479
going live TSN Mega. Okay,
so I hope you talk Mariners with him.

1277
01:16:27.880 --> 01:16:31.079
Okay, good, that's that you
talk. But I just wanted to

1278
01:16:31.079 --> 01:16:34.479
point out that our location was so
good two years ago that George Hamilton,

1279
01:16:34.600 --> 01:16:40.159
I guess TSN now rented out the
whole damn building. I just like last

1280
01:16:40.239 --> 01:16:43.520
question for you guys, Randy,
and you know it's it's foofy, foofye.

1281
01:16:43.520 --> 01:16:45.279
But the State Fan one that they
did Friday, you know, he's

1282
01:16:45.279 --> 01:16:47.920
talking a lot of growth of the
league and demos and everything's out, but

1283
01:16:48.000 --> 01:16:51.039
whatever, Like, what's your understanding
of kind of the health of everything right

1284
01:16:51.039 --> 01:16:55.000
now, because it seems like people, you know, Ambrosie is the greatest

1285
01:16:55.039 --> 01:16:57.319
thing in the world right now.
Well, I don't know if everyone's jumped

1286
01:16:57.319 --> 01:17:00.039
on Randy's bandwagon, but certainly in
terms of the metrics around the world the

1287
01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:02.960
league, both in terms of attendance, in terms of where the television ratings

1288
01:17:02.960 --> 01:17:05.920
are and not just overall ratings,
but ratings in the right demo. I

1289
01:17:05.920 --> 01:17:10.039
think it is going in the right
direction. So you know, it took

1290
01:17:10.079 --> 01:17:12.279
some time, and you know there's
still ways for it to go. You

1291
01:17:12.319 --> 01:17:15.720
know, we were coming down here
and we talked about it that boy.

1292
01:17:15.800 --> 01:17:19.279
The league is sure improved in specific
areas, but in terms of actual diversity,

1293
01:17:19.720 --> 01:17:24.880
you know, it crowds at events
here in Hamilton and and you know

1294
01:17:25.000 --> 01:17:27.800
even at games quite often looked like
what the league did forty years ago.

1295
01:17:27.800 --> 01:17:30.359
Like I'd love for the look of
the league and it's fan based and its

1296
01:17:30.359 --> 01:17:32.920
supporters to get a little bit more
diverse and things like that, because certainly

1297
01:17:32.960 --> 01:17:36.600
the players, the on field product
is very diverse in terms of what that

1298
01:17:36.640 --> 01:17:40.079
looks like, and you see league
with its global initiative trying to go there.

1299
01:17:40.119 --> 01:17:42.960
But in terms of where they're at, the quality of play, all

1300
01:17:42.960 --> 01:17:44.960
of it, I think it's headed
in the right direction. I think it's

1301
01:17:44.960 --> 01:17:46.279
been a very positive year for the
CFL, and I would echo far Han

1302
01:17:46.359 --> 01:17:49.720
sentiments. I mean, just it's
vital from a business interest, and Canada's

1303
01:17:49.760 --> 01:17:55.680
population, you know, is so
diverse now, and that diversity is not

1304
01:17:55.760 --> 01:17:59.319
reflected in the stands. They are
not by and large New Canadians, and

1305
01:17:59.319 --> 01:18:02.199
people who are first generations of New
Canadians are not Canadian Football League customers.

1306
01:18:02.239 --> 01:18:05.239
And if this league is going to
be vital into the future, that has

1307
01:18:05.319 --> 01:18:09.399
to change. And but overall,
I think what the league has been talking

1308
01:18:09.399 --> 01:18:11.720
about with the three biggest markets,
I mean, I can't tell you the

1309
01:18:11.800 --> 01:18:14.239
number of years we' shown up at
the Great Cup, and the biggest concerns

1310
01:18:14.239 --> 01:18:15.920
are in order, you know,
Toronto, Montreal and Vancouver. Mixed the

1311
01:18:16.039 --> 01:18:18.960
order anywhere you want, but those
are the soft spots and it's been I

1312
01:18:19.000 --> 01:18:23.439
think very gratifying for the league to
see, you know, those the improvement

1313
01:18:23.479 --> 01:18:26.680
in those places. Some of it
goes with the success of the teams,

1314
01:18:26.680 --> 01:18:29.920
but I think overall there's been a
business improvement. And hey, it's not

1315
01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:32.159
that long ago this league was in
some very desperate straits and I think people

1316
01:18:32.159 --> 01:18:35.800
are walking around right now feeling pretty
pretty good about the president and the future

1317
01:18:35.800 --> 01:18:39.079
of the Canadian Football League. Awesome. Well, thanks you guys, get

1318
01:18:39.079 --> 01:18:40.760
out of here and get back to
work. I haven't seen you at the

1319
01:18:40.760 --> 01:18:44.319
suite yet. We've been hanging out
late ago. You obviously were late arriving.

1320
01:18:44.399 --> 01:18:46.159
We flew Thursday. Well, there
you go. We'll catch up here.

1321
01:18:46.199 --> 01:18:49.159
I appreciate it. I'm watching I'm
watching the Huskies in Oregon State tonight,

1322
01:18:49.199 --> 01:18:50.960
so I'm not sure I'm making the
visit to this week. We got

1323
01:18:50.960 --> 01:18:53.960
to you can put it on in
the suite far. We got to make

1324
01:18:53.960 --> 01:18:56.319
an appearance tonight with read You got
it, you got it. Come on,

1325
01:18:56.960 --> 01:18:58.680
I will stay about it. You
guys, get out of here next

1326
01:18:58.680 --> 01:19:01.279
to my all right, we'll get
Jason back in here. We'll get Dan

1327
01:19:01.359 --> 01:19:03.279
Ralph back in Thank you, I
got it. You're good, good,

1328
01:19:03.319 --> 01:19:06.560
thank you. All right, thanks
guys. We'll get the swap back here.

1329
01:19:06.640 --> 01:19:10.640
They're back to work making time coming
in here. Let's get Jason and

1330
01:19:10.680 --> 01:19:13.039
then can we get Jason? Can
you get Dan Ralph? Can you pick

1331
01:19:13.119 --> 01:19:15.079
him? We'll get that back in
Evan. Thoughts on that, thoughts on

1332
01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:18.239
a nailor and part on. Yeah. I thought it was great. You

1333
01:19:18.239 --> 01:19:20.800
know, I think their point about, you know, the progress that's been

1334
01:19:20.800 --> 01:19:25.880
made in the Canadian Football League,
you know, definitely from a on field

1335
01:19:25.880 --> 01:19:29.359
perspective. I think it improved this
year overall. Just it feels like we've

1336
01:19:29.359 --> 01:19:31.079
really been building, you know,
coming off that COVID comeback. This is

1337
01:19:31.119 --> 01:19:34.439
what you know, season three really
the only second full season because we only

1338
01:19:34.439 --> 01:19:38.399
played fourteen games in twenty twenty one. But yeah, overall, I thought

1339
01:19:38.399 --> 01:19:41.640
that was a great way to ended
off. Dan. Welcome here, Dan,

1340
01:19:41.720 --> 01:19:45.399
Ralph Canadian Press. We've been talking
with Nathan right whether the photographers Canadian

1341
01:19:45.439 --> 01:19:47.399
Press been hanging out in the end
this wee a lot with him. I've

1342
01:19:47.399 --> 01:19:50.399
been fun What are you tracking this
week? A lot of different things to

1343
01:19:50.439 --> 01:19:54.359
talk about, what's on your mind. I just want to get through the

1344
01:19:54.399 --> 01:19:57.840
week. It's been. It's been
you know great, Cup's funny. It's

1345
01:19:57.880 --> 01:20:01.520
a you get here and you're excited
and then all the work starts and then

1346
01:20:01.560 --> 01:20:04.720
by bife last night, I'm ready
for the game to be played. So

1347
01:20:05.920 --> 01:20:09.319
I'll be honest. I mean,
we're tracking a bunch of things. That

1348
01:20:09.359 --> 01:20:12.880
can mean you've got the two you
know, the game, the two teams

1349
01:20:12.880 --> 01:20:17.960
in the game. You've got the
commissioner having his news conference on Tuesday telling

1350
01:20:18.000 --> 01:20:21.720
you one thing, and then you've
got the PA having theirs and telling you

1351
01:20:21.760 --> 01:20:29.479
another about they you know, we
talk about revenue sharing and the PAS.

1352
01:20:30.039 --> 01:20:32.760
The Players Association is saying they haven't
got the numbers from the league yet.

1353
01:20:32.800 --> 01:20:38.760
For twenty twenty two they filed the
grievance to get those numbers so that you

1354
01:20:38.800 --> 01:20:44.840
can actually start figuring out the revenue
sharing formula. And then and then you've

1355
01:20:44.840 --> 01:20:48.960
got the injury situation in BC with
the with Dalton shown in Adam big Hill,

1356
01:20:49.359 --> 01:20:54.000
which you start following Tuesday and you
got to check every day. And

1357
01:20:54.039 --> 01:20:58.000
now their game time decisions, so
we'll be checking at five point fifty five

1358
01:20:58.079 --> 01:21:01.800
tomorrow night, right before the before
the game. So myriad of things.

1359
01:21:01.840 --> 01:21:06.720
But hey, it's great Cup week. It's a blast and you know I

1360
01:21:06.720 --> 01:21:11.520
wouldn't have it any other way.
What is the revenue share? So what

1361
01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:14.159
is walke us do a little bit
more of that because we haven't touched on

1362
01:21:14.199 --> 01:21:16.720
this as much yet. It was
something that was collectively bargained in the last

1363
01:21:16.720 --> 01:21:23.199
CBA and so that was two years
ago, and there was a formula in

1364
01:21:23.279 --> 01:21:28.159
place by where the league would tell
you this is what we took in and

1365
01:21:28.199 --> 01:21:31.880
the PA would verify it and there
would be a formula where they could share

1366
01:21:31.960 --> 01:21:35.880
some of that revenue with the players. At the time of the CBA signing,

1367
01:21:35.920 --> 01:21:40.560
it was the first time that the
two sides had agreed to revenue share

1368
01:21:40.560 --> 01:21:44.319
it. So you sort of assume
that, okay, well that's a good

1369
01:21:44.359 --> 01:21:47.479
thing, right, And then this
year Commissioner and Rosie talked about all the

1370
01:21:47.479 --> 01:21:54.680
positives going on. You've got,
you know, an increase in attendance in

1371
01:21:54.680 --> 01:21:58.920
Toronto, You've got the Montreal Aloettes
here after, you know, uncertainty with

1372
01:21:58.960 --> 01:22:03.319
their franchise. You've got continued growth
in BC. So the economics part of

1373
01:22:03.359 --> 01:22:08.720
it look good. And then all
of a sudden you're going to the PA

1374
01:22:08.880 --> 01:22:12.600
State of the Union and they go, yeah, we we haven't got our

1375
01:22:12.680 --> 01:22:15.560
numbers from the league from twenty twenty
two. We've had to file agreements to

1376
01:22:15.600 --> 01:22:19.600
get them. We want to get
the numbers because we want to check them

1377
01:22:19.640 --> 01:22:25.239
and verify. And so you begin
to think that, okay, well things

1378
01:22:25.279 --> 01:22:28.880
maybe aren't as rosy as we're led
to believe. So excuse me. So

1379
01:22:28.960 --> 01:22:34.159
there's that, and I was surprised. I was quite surprised. But you

1380
01:22:34.199 --> 01:22:39.079
know, number one of many things
happening this week, it's that's how your

1381
01:22:39.119 --> 01:22:44.000
eyes go up. Oh, I
just like, yeah, I can't believe

1382
01:22:44.039 --> 01:22:46.560
that, Like the CFL hasn't even
gotten the numbers to them for the twenty

1383
01:22:46.560 --> 01:22:50.520
twenty two season yet. So yeah, that whole fact is bottle my mind,

1384
01:22:51.119 --> 01:22:55.399
took me for took me for a
loop. So what's the timeline of

1385
01:22:55.399 --> 01:22:57.600
that. When are we going to
find out what? That's a really good

1386
01:22:57.680 --> 01:23:00.159
question. If they filed the grievance, then it has to go to an

1387
01:23:00.239 --> 01:23:02.199
arbitrator, then you've got to get
that all taken care of. So I

1388
01:23:02.239 --> 01:23:06.680
mean that takes a bit of time. Arbitration can be quick, arbitration can

1389
01:23:06.760 --> 01:23:13.399
be tedious. That's something we'll keep
our eye on moving forward. I asked

1390
01:23:13.399 --> 01:23:16.039
the same question you I did with
Barhunt and Naylor about Jack Kelly and all

1391
01:23:16.079 --> 01:23:25.520
of this Toronto and thoughts, and
then we'll get Evan the cummas. Okay,

1392
01:23:26.159 --> 01:23:30.640
do I think he had had trauma? Yes, until he unequivocally said

1393
01:23:30.680 --> 01:23:36.319
that he had been suffered a concussion
or diagnosed with a concussion. I'm a

1394
01:23:36.399 --> 01:23:43.920
little skeptical because the story that went
out there initially, the word concussion was

1395
01:23:43.920 --> 01:23:48.680
in the headline, the word concussion
was in a bracket in a quote,

1396
01:23:48.680 --> 01:23:56.119
and that's the only attribution to it. So I don't know. I'm not

1397
01:23:56.960 --> 01:24:00.399
one hundred percent sure that there was
a concussion, levied. I'm a little

1398
01:24:00.439 --> 01:24:05.600
perplexed that if he did suffer something, that he didn't let the medical staff

1399
01:24:05.680 --> 01:24:11.720
or his coaches know. And if
he did suffer it, I'm not sure

1400
01:24:11.720 --> 01:24:15.760
it had any bearing on the first
pick sixty threw because it was in the

1401
01:24:15.760 --> 01:24:20.720
first quarter, but he was off. There was no if and or but

1402
01:24:20.720 --> 01:24:26.960
but I can't I'm not a doctor, But I really I felt a little

1403
01:24:27.279 --> 01:24:33.960
surprised when that came out because it
brought the league into question, It brought

1404
01:24:34.000 --> 01:24:42.239
the medical staff for the argos into
question, and I'm I don't know.

1405
01:24:42.800 --> 01:24:45.760
I didn't see anything. I was
at the game. I didn't see any

1406
01:24:45.840 --> 01:24:50.079
hit that he was particularly woozy or
or had difficulty getting off the field.

1407
01:24:50.800 --> 01:24:55.119
But like I said, I'm not
a doctor, Evan, I won't make

1408
01:24:55.159 --> 01:24:58.720
you comment on the concussion part.
But does it take away it feels like

1409
01:24:58.800 --> 01:25:00.479
it takes away some of the mantra
I'll win here, like well, Chad

1410
01:25:00.560 --> 01:25:02.479
was so banged up or I mean, you know what I mean, because

1411
01:25:02.479 --> 01:25:04.520
now they're here in the Great Cup
and like, well, maybe you didn't

1412
01:25:04.560 --> 01:25:09.199
beat as as a as true an
opponent. I don't know. Well,

1413
01:25:09.239 --> 01:25:11.920
I just think it goes two ways. Because on the one end, if

1414
01:25:12.000 --> 01:25:15.000
Chad really did have a concussion,
you know, that looks bad on the

1415
01:25:15.039 --> 01:25:17.039
team and the medical staff and all
that. But if he didn't have a

1416
01:25:17.079 --> 01:25:20.600
concussion, it's a very interesting scapegoat
to use for what'support you know, what

1417
01:25:20.800 --> 01:25:25.600
was just an outright poor performance.
So I see both things, both sides

1418
01:25:25.600 --> 01:25:29.119
to it. Rather doesn't take away
from the Montreal win. I don't know.

1419
01:25:29.199 --> 01:25:30.920
I mean, I was focused on
Montreal that whole game. I got

1420
01:25:30.920 --> 01:25:33.359
to a point even at half where
it was only I think ten to three.

1421
01:25:33.880 --> 01:25:36.960
I just had a really good feeling
with the Montreal the way Montreal was

1422
01:25:38.000 --> 01:25:41.840
playing in their defense led by Noel
Thorpe. You know, I thought that

1423
01:25:41.880 --> 01:25:44.199
they were gonna pull that one out
even if it was a one score game.

1424
01:25:44.239 --> 01:25:45.920
So I don't know. I mean, at least for me, it

1425
01:25:45.960 --> 01:25:48.920
doesn't take away too much from it. But that situation is, Yeah,

1426
01:25:48.960 --> 01:25:53.079
it's certainly one that I did not
expect to be hearing about for so long.

1427
01:25:53.399 --> 01:25:57.159
Yeah, they're you surprised, like, and we had conversations all season.

1428
01:25:57.199 --> 01:26:00.359
It was ever since Toronto and rest
first, rest and kind all this

1429
01:26:00.399 --> 01:26:02.359
stuff, and then they really did
just come in and crap the bed for

1430
01:26:02.439 --> 01:26:03.880
lack of a better way, I
mean, way, are use like,

1431
01:26:03.920 --> 01:26:09.279
are you surprised of all this?
I was very I I mean I thought

1432
01:26:09.279 --> 01:26:12.119
Toronto was going in and I thought
if the game was going to get out

1433
01:26:12.159 --> 01:26:15.479
of hand, it was going to
be the other way. I didn't see

1434
01:26:15.560 --> 01:26:18.000
nine turnovers coming. You're talking about
a team that turned the ball over twenty

1435
01:26:18.000 --> 01:26:23.239
seven times the entire year, and
you know a third of that comes in

1436
01:26:23.319 --> 01:26:27.600
one playoff game, twenty six thousand
at home. If you're going to pick

1437
01:26:27.640 --> 01:26:30.960
a time to play your worst game
of the year, that's that's not it.

1438
01:26:30.079 --> 01:26:35.600
I just I really thought I thought
Montreal did a nice job defensively against

1439
01:26:35.600 --> 01:26:40.560
Hamilton and not allowing a touchdown.
But I also thought you were talking about

1440
01:26:40.560 --> 01:26:46.479
two different offenses, but and and
Toronto's defense seven sacks, and you know

1441
01:26:46.520 --> 01:26:49.399
they they did their part. But
you're not going to win a game when

1442
01:26:49.399 --> 01:26:54.000
you turn the ball over nine times. So while there's question about you know,

1443
01:26:54.479 --> 01:26:59.000
was Kelly Wright was he was he
on his game? Hell nine turnovers,

1444
01:27:00.479 --> 01:27:03.840
That to me is dominant. Whether
Chad was on or off. I

1445
01:27:03.840 --> 01:27:09.159
mean it was dominant Tim Capper's messaging. They're running into traffic. Our next

1446
01:27:09.159 --> 01:27:11.359
guest. We'll get a couple more
with Dan, and then maybe we'll get

1447
01:27:11.359 --> 01:27:13.439
at Dorothy in here and you can
go do your other work here. I

1448
01:27:13.439 --> 01:27:19.399
appreciate it. In terms of the
Alolettes here, you know, what do

1449
01:27:19.439 --> 01:27:24.039
you make I guess at the game
itself, in terms of we've heard the

1450
01:27:24.079 --> 01:27:26.880
low scoring, the defensive and they're
gonna get killed and everything else. What

1451
01:27:26.880 --> 01:27:29.640
do you make of the actual game. I think it's close, I really

1452
01:27:29.720 --> 01:27:35.319
do. I just think that Winnipeg
is very balanced. And I mean they've

1453
01:27:35.319 --> 01:27:41.920
got the quarterback who I think is
the most proven and is the most battle

1454
01:27:41.960 --> 01:27:45.439
tested quarterback in the CFL, and
he's he's at this game for the fourth

1455
01:27:45.439 --> 01:27:49.319
time in a row. He's won
it, he's been the MVP. But

1456
01:27:49.439 --> 01:27:54.119
I think they're balanced. I mean, Grady Elavera ran for over one hundred

1457
01:27:54.159 --> 01:27:57.960
yards both times against Montreal this year. They like to establish the run.

1458
01:27:57.960 --> 01:28:00.720
They're dedicated to the run, and
if they get the run going, I

1459
01:28:00.720 --> 01:28:04.920
think that makes Zach even more dangerous. There's some questions about whether or not

1460
01:28:05.039 --> 01:28:10.119
Dalton Showing will play He's a big
part of their past, their pass offense,

1461
01:28:10.319 --> 01:28:13.920
but he's not the only part.
And you know, if if I

1462
01:28:13.960 --> 01:28:16.359
had Kenny Lawler as my number two
receiver, I'd be I'd be pretty good.

1463
01:28:16.800 --> 01:28:20.800
So I think I think they're good
offensively. I think they're multi they're

1464
01:28:20.880 --> 01:28:26.720
multi faceted. And that defense,
I mean there is that defense is better

1465
01:28:26.760 --> 01:28:31.199
than Toronto's on paper, and Toronto, in my mind, their defense controlled

1466
01:28:31.199 --> 01:28:36.800
Montreal's offense. So if if Winnipeg
doesn't turn the ball over, and there's

1467
01:28:36.800 --> 01:28:43.000
no indication that they will, then
I think they win by seven. I

1468
01:28:43.000 --> 01:28:45.800
think it's close, but uh,
I'd still go with the with the team

1469
01:28:45.840 --> 01:28:49.640
that's been here for the fourth time. I have another question about the Toronto

1470
01:28:49.720 --> 01:28:53.000
stuff. But you know, Jason, in terms of that, just in

1471
01:28:53.119 --> 01:28:55.760
terms of the pedigree of Winnipeg,
does that do anything for you? We'll

1472
01:28:55.760 --> 01:28:58.560
get Evans thoughts. Also in terms
of like the ability to win, Yeah,

1473
01:28:58.800 --> 01:29:00.840
I hold you just a little bit
there better great, I think so

1474
01:29:01.000 --> 01:29:03.479
I think that, you know,
you look at the other side of Montfreal.

1475
01:29:03.560 --> 01:29:06.840
They don't have a lot of experience
in that in that regard obviously,

1476
01:29:06.920 --> 01:29:10.960
Like you know, none of these
guys are around the last time they they

1477
01:29:10.960 --> 01:29:13.960
made it back to the Great Cup
and in twenty ten. But yeah,

1478
01:29:14.000 --> 01:29:17.479
I think Winnipeg just has so much
experience. Like Dan said, they're just

1479
01:29:17.520 --> 01:29:21.119
such a well balanced team. I
think that, you know, month all,

1480
01:29:21.199 --> 01:29:25.000
it just comes down to it.
I don't think they have the explosiveness

1481
01:29:25.159 --> 01:29:28.279
if this turns into a kind of
a shootout, higher scoring game, which

1482
01:29:28.279 --> 01:29:30.159
I don't think it will be.
I think it will be a lower scoring

1483
01:29:30.199 --> 01:29:32.800
game. I think you know,
the two number one and number two scoring

1484
01:29:32.840 --> 01:29:35.680
defenses in the CFL this season.
But I think at the end of the

1485
01:29:35.760 --> 01:29:41.039
day, yeah, Winnipeg's experience will
play a big role. Oh absolutely.

1486
01:29:41.119 --> 01:29:43.239
I mean, look, you know, this team's been in the Great Cup

1487
01:29:43.279 --> 01:29:45.239
since twenty nineteen. I understand there
wasn't a season in twenty twenty, but

1488
01:29:45.279 --> 01:29:48.640
it's still four straight. Like I
was saying earlier, the only thing that

1489
01:29:48.680 --> 01:29:54.159
will be really interesting is if you
know, the outlook of Winnipeg from here

1490
01:29:54.199 --> 01:29:57.560
on out in the future could be
very different depending on whether or not they

1491
01:29:57.600 --> 01:29:59.960
win this game, because a lot
of a lot of those guys on that

1492
01:30:00.079 --> 01:30:01.239
team. And again I don't want
to be repetitive, but since we've got

1493
01:30:01.239 --> 01:30:03.199
a new guest. I'm gonna bring
it up again. A lot of guys

1494
01:30:03.279 --> 01:30:05.720
that team are getting older, you
know, and I don't want to say

1495
01:30:05.720 --> 01:30:09.680
that this is the end of anything, but you know, they lost a

1496
01:30:09.760 --> 01:30:12.159
very close game last year, you
know, very tough. When you work

1497
01:30:12.199 --> 01:30:15.479
your entire season to get to that
point you lose by one, you know,

1498
01:30:15.600 --> 01:30:16.399
very tough. I mean it's a
good game, right for us on

1499
01:30:16.439 --> 01:30:20.479
the on the entertainment side, really
enjoyed watching that. But if they lose

1500
01:30:20.520 --> 01:30:24.560
this game, it's a bit different
because Montreal, you know, no one

1501
01:30:24.560 --> 01:30:28.079
expected them to be here and they
don't have again that pedigree that we're talking

1502
01:30:28.079 --> 01:30:30.039
about, they don't have that experience. It really is, you know,

1503
01:30:30.119 --> 01:30:33.399
to like, you know, the
only guy on Montreal that I can think

1504
01:30:33.439 --> 01:30:38.239
of, you know that really is
a well not true veteran leader, but

1505
01:30:38.359 --> 01:30:42.520
like Christian Mai, Matt Madi yeah, Matt, Yeah, I hope I'm

1506
01:30:42.520 --> 01:30:45.520
saying his name right. I can't. I always puts these pronunciations, even

1507
01:30:45.520 --> 01:30:47.079
if they're simple. But he's really
the only guy, you know that's that's

1508
01:30:47.119 --> 01:30:49.960
been there, you know, in
that spot for so many years. And

1509
01:30:50.880 --> 01:30:53.760
you know, we'll, uh,
well, we'll see what happens. But

1510
01:30:53.840 --> 01:30:57.159
yeah, I mean Winnipeg's Winnipeg's experience. I think that's a no brainer when

1511
01:30:57.159 --> 01:30:59.760
it comes to their odds, you
know, in terms of winning this game.

1512
01:31:00.399 --> 01:31:02.159
The one thing I wanted to add
too, win or lose. We're

1513
01:31:02.159 --> 01:31:08.119
going to be watching the Bombers in
December because their GM and their two assistant

1514
01:31:08.159 --> 01:31:15.239
GMS are in the last years of
contracts and they're not Neither of those three

1515
01:31:15.399 --> 01:31:18.640
have resigned for twenty twenty four,
and there's some there's some question about whether

1516
01:31:18.680 --> 01:31:24.960
they can keep one, two or
all three. And Kyl Walter's the GMS,

1517
01:31:24.960 --> 01:31:28.640
the architect of this team. His
fingerprints are all over it, and

1518
01:31:30.000 --> 01:31:35.680
I'm I'm really really surprised he's not
under contract for next year. But you

1519
01:31:35.720 --> 01:31:39.840
know what if they to your point, if they lose and all of a

1520
01:31:39.840 --> 01:31:43.800
sudden they're two and two in this
thing, in this realm of four,

1521
01:31:43.880 --> 01:31:47.560
and they lose their GM in the
offseason and they're a year older, and

1522
01:31:47.880 --> 01:31:53.079
you know, maybe guys start to
see that this is starting to maybe unravel

1523
01:31:53.079 --> 01:31:56.119
a little bit. They start taking
the money to go to other teams and

1524
01:31:56.399 --> 01:32:00.159
get the the you know, the
opportunity elsewhere rather than come back and playing

1525
01:32:00.199 --> 01:32:03.840
for playing for five if they if
they don't play well. Jason, You've

1526
01:32:03.880 --> 01:32:06.359
done a lot of videos about and
I know you had the one talking about

1527
01:32:06.399 --> 01:32:09.880
the Dynasties and the Toronto and all
that, But where do you view that

1528
01:32:10.000 --> 01:32:13.960
the legacy if they're two and two. Well, there's a lot of teams

1529
01:32:14.039 --> 01:32:16.279
in the last twenty years of the
CFL that have won two championships. Not

1530
01:32:16.359 --> 01:32:20.279
many teams have won three in like
I guess the Alouettes won one two thousand

1531
01:32:20.279 --> 01:32:24.079
and two and then one back to
back twenty nine and twenty ten. But

1532
01:32:24.560 --> 01:32:29.479
there was such a gap between those
two teams that those those championships that I

1533
01:32:29.479 --> 01:32:31.960
wouldn't really consider that like kind of
the same team. I guess you still

1534
01:32:31.960 --> 01:32:36.199
had like Calvio and Brian Chew on
that team, but yeah, it was

1535
01:32:36.279 --> 01:32:40.039
kind of a different team. But
in terms of winning three Great Cups in

1536
01:32:40.039 --> 01:32:44.239
a five year period, it hasn't
been done since Edmonton in the nineteen eighties

1537
01:32:44.279 --> 01:32:46.920
and late nineteen seventies, and before
that, you know, Hamilton in the

1538
01:32:47.000 --> 01:32:54.640
sixties and Winnipeg in the fifties and
early sixties. So it's you know,

1539
01:32:54.800 --> 01:32:59.000
some teams have gotten close. Calgary
in the twenty tens, they had what

1540
01:32:59.199 --> 01:33:01.159
four great Cups in a row,
with three great Cup appearances in a row,

1541
01:33:01.319 --> 01:33:04.319
and they got upset in a couple
of them. So we've seen some

1542
01:33:04.399 --> 01:33:09.399
massive upsets in this game. So
nothing would just surprise me with this game

1543
01:33:09.439 --> 01:33:13.439
on Sunday, Dan, another question
for you. I joked in the thing

1544
01:33:13.560 --> 01:33:15.359
during the Toronto loss, you know, we sell that, you know,

1545
01:33:15.439 --> 01:33:19.000
biggest attendance ever at beam Upfield,
told they lay an egg and now we've

1546
01:33:19.039 --> 01:33:23.840
killed another generation of Toronto or you
know CFL fans. But how do you

1547
01:33:24.000 --> 01:33:29.159
view with the success that they've had
now and obviously not dynasty like like Winnipeg

1548
01:33:29.239 --> 01:33:32.039
yet, but you know, but
the success they found, like it is

1549
01:33:32.079 --> 01:33:35.479
the tables, you know, the
pendulum swinging, I guess in Toronto or

1550
01:33:35.680 --> 01:33:39.039
I mean, what do you view
Well, that's a really good question.

1551
01:33:39.119 --> 01:33:41.760
I mean I think if they come
back next year, I mean, let's

1552
01:33:42.079 --> 01:33:44.520
they were sixteen to two this year, but let's not forget this is the

1553
01:33:44.560 --> 01:33:47.600
third straight year that they finished first
in the East, so the third straight

1554
01:33:47.680 --> 01:33:53.520
year that they've hosted the East Finals, so they've sort of set some expectation

1555
01:33:53.600 --> 01:33:58.279
of winning there. If they come
back next year and put a good season

1556
01:33:58.319 --> 01:34:03.720
together they go and finish the deal, because I mean, sixteen to two

1557
01:34:03.760 --> 01:34:08.439
is as dominant as you can be
in the CFL, but it means nothing

1558
01:34:08.960 --> 01:34:13.239
given what happened. So if they
go four straight into the you know,

1559
01:34:13.279 --> 01:34:15.800
finish first in the East, and
they should, and if they host the

1560
01:34:15.840 --> 01:34:19.760
East Final again and they should,
and heaven forbid, if they get back

1561
01:34:19.760 --> 01:34:24.720
into the Gray Cup again and win
it, then we can start talking about

1562
01:34:25.000 --> 01:34:29.159
that they've turned the corner, right. But right now, I mean,

1563
01:34:29.319 --> 01:34:32.279
it's it's nice, it's a nice, feel good story, but invariably we're

1564
01:34:32.279 --> 01:34:35.920
always sang butt, right, So
I think they have to go next year

1565
01:34:35.960 --> 01:34:40.119
and build on that. Not necessarily, I mean, you're not going to

1566
01:34:40.199 --> 01:34:44.000
go seventeen to one, but when
win the Gray Cup, and then we'll

1567
01:34:44.039 --> 01:34:48.279
start talking about, you know that
they avenge that the same scenario next year

1568
01:34:48.319 --> 01:34:50.760
if they get in and win it. That We talked to Brady ali Ara

1569
01:34:50.800 --> 01:34:55.920
and the Bombers again this year about
being one point short and how that had

1570
01:34:56.359 --> 01:35:00.319
a you know, motivating factor in
their offseason because we'd be talking about a

1571
01:35:00.359 --> 01:35:04.239
team that that could win four straight
and so to me, three straight in

1572
01:35:04.319 --> 01:35:09.000
four years, I'm not ready to
call it a dynasty, four straight in

1573
01:35:09.079 --> 01:35:12.680
four years. Yeah, then then
you're forced too. I got one last

1574
01:35:12.720 --> 01:35:15.039
question, Tim Cliff here getting said
that prayer. We'll get him on and

1575
01:35:15.159 --> 01:35:17.840
maybe Jason can Stan and evaganb I
forgot we had to tube person guests.

1576
01:35:17.920 --> 01:35:23.720
Ire the last question for you with
with Toronto. You know we made all

1577
01:35:23.720 --> 01:35:28.159
this and resting on their laurels or
wrestling players all that were they Were they

1578
01:35:28.520 --> 01:35:30.439
prepared enough going into the East Final? Did you view that? I mean

1579
01:35:30.479 --> 01:35:33.199
the Chack Kelly aside, I mean
the team is a whole. I didn't.

1580
01:35:33.279 --> 01:35:35.760
I did not think they were rusty. I did not think there was

1581
01:35:36.479 --> 01:35:41.920
I thought that coached in Wood you
did a very very good job of not

1582
01:35:41.960 --> 01:35:46.159
only managing his team after they clinched
the the East Division in mid September,

1583
01:35:46.439 --> 01:35:49.479
but he also had them. You
know, they had a winning record from

1584
01:35:49.479 --> 01:35:53.720
that point on, and I think
they were in every game except for the

1585
01:35:53.720 --> 01:35:57.520
one against Winnipeg, and even then
they only lost by ten and they were

1586
01:35:57.600 --> 01:36:01.119
leading in the second half. So
I did not think that there was any

1587
01:36:01.199 --> 01:36:08.640
ring Russ. I did not think
that they were you know, they benefited

1588
01:36:09.159 --> 01:36:14.039
negatively about having clinched the East so
far or so early. No, I

1589
01:36:14.600 --> 01:36:17.600
thought they went into They went into
the final in good shape. They played

1590
01:36:17.600 --> 01:36:21.079
ten straight weeks, they needed a
week off. They got that. You

1591
01:36:21.119 --> 01:36:24.479
would have thought they would have been
wrested. You would have thought they'd have

1592
01:36:24.479 --> 01:36:29.439
been rejuvenated. They just ran into
a buzzsaw. And you know what,

1593
01:36:30.800 --> 01:36:33.520
it was Chad's first playoff game,
and maybe he'll learn something from it.

1594
01:36:34.039 --> 01:36:39.319
But there wasn't a game this year
that he was pressured like he was pressured

1595
01:36:39.760 --> 01:36:43.760
last weekends. For the first time
this year, I really thought I saw

1596
01:36:43.760 --> 01:36:45.800
a guy who was a little shell
shocked. All right, Well, thank

1597
01:36:45.840 --> 01:36:48.680
you, Dan, I appreciate it. It's good seeing he as always there

1598
01:36:48.720 --> 01:36:53.039
we go. I think he were
sitting around. Appreciate it. We'll bring

1599
01:36:53.079 --> 01:36:55.800
in Tim and Cliffe, Jason,
you stick around, Evan, maybe you

1600
01:36:55.800 --> 01:36:58.760
can give Cliffey the mic. Jason, you stick around. I will bring

1601
01:36:58.760 --> 01:37:00.800
that me in here. Come on, guys, got our guests and then

1602
01:37:00.800 --> 01:37:02.520
we got Baker standing by. We'll
talk that coming out at the end.

1603
01:37:02.560 --> 01:37:06.600
Appreciate it. Moving chairs here,
Cliffee, how are you doing, sir?

1604
01:37:06.640 --> 01:37:10.680
Get in here. Tim, Get
in here. Tim, you can

1605
01:37:10.680 --> 01:37:14.039
take that one. Cliffe, you
and I'll share here. How are you

1606
01:37:14.079 --> 01:37:18.000
guys doing. I mean I've seen
Cliffe in person before, We've don't must

1607
01:37:18.039 --> 01:37:24.319
I forget, I don't think we've
ever. You got to be on top

1608
01:37:24.359 --> 01:37:26.479
of the world right now. How
are you guys going? This is incredible.

1609
01:37:26.560 --> 01:37:29.880
I mean the vibe here this week
has been nothing short of electric.

1610
01:37:30.399 --> 01:37:32.840
Uh. You a chance to spend
some time with the players, the coaches

1611
01:37:32.880 --> 01:37:36.720
and everything that doing media stuff with
them has been an absolute blast. It's

1612
01:37:36.760 --> 01:37:41.079
been exciting. I mean, all
Vellwist nation is excited for this game.

1613
01:37:41.159 --> 01:37:44.800
It's it's been incredible. And you
guys have been working your tail off.

1614
01:37:44.800 --> 01:37:47.640
I see you posting all the postgame
interviews, going to practice tim and obviously

1615
01:37:47.720 --> 01:37:50.079
you've covered Steph forever and you know, I mean, this is you're not

1616
01:37:50.199 --> 01:37:55.439
new, new, but you know
it's got to be exciting here knowing it's

1617
01:37:55.479 --> 01:37:57.399
your you know, it's your guys'
team here. I mean, I couldn't

1618
01:37:57.399 --> 01:38:00.000
imagine if if the Lions were here
on the other side, right Oh no,

1619
01:38:00.159 --> 01:38:01.760
that's for sure. I think it's
giving us a very unique opportunity where

1620
01:38:01.800 --> 01:38:04.560
we can, you know, cover
the owls the way that we want to

1621
01:38:04.560 --> 01:38:06.479
cover the owls. I mean,
yeah, it's true. If it were

1622
01:38:06.520 --> 01:38:10.920
the BC lines or somebody else.
It's it's truly. I mean, we

1623
01:38:10.960 --> 01:38:13.840
would so put the effort into the
effort into it, so to speak.

1624
01:38:13.880 --> 01:38:17.000
But no, no, it's just
fun. I mean just seeing the just

1625
01:38:17.000 --> 01:38:20.239
seeing the players should even though it
was just a just you know, a

1626
01:38:20.319 --> 01:38:25.279
walk through, just the fun that
they were having and the the pictures that

1627
01:38:25.359 --> 01:38:28.439
they were taking were just I don't
know how many of those pictures will be

1628
01:38:28.479 --> 01:38:30.199
seen by by everybody out there,
but I mean it was just it was

1629
01:38:30.239 --> 01:38:34.319
just so much fun. Now,
did you what did you think, on

1630
01:38:34.319 --> 01:38:36.720
the scale of one to ten that
the Alolettes and we you know, we'd

1631
01:38:36.720 --> 01:38:40.079
be here right now? What was
your confidence level at the beginning of the

1632
01:38:40.119 --> 01:38:43.920
season? Commas level at the beginning
season. I'm very much a wait and

1633
01:38:43.960 --> 01:38:45.800
see kind of type. So,
I mean, like I know a lot

1634
01:38:45.800 --> 01:38:47.319
of people, it was all doom
and gloom and this team was going to

1635
01:38:47.359 --> 01:38:51.119
be your tenth rent out of a
nineteen league because that's how bad they were

1636
01:38:51.159 --> 01:38:55.399
going to be. But look,
let's listen, let's see what happens like

1637
01:38:55.560 --> 01:38:58.680
new ownership, new head coach,
a lot of new players. I mean,

1638
01:38:59.119 --> 01:39:01.119
you just never know. You got
to play the games and that's exactly

1639
01:39:01.199 --> 01:39:04.279
what they always did. It was, you know, a couple little rough

1640
01:39:04.279 --> 01:39:08.319
patches here and there, but this
team, bid and large got galvanized,

1641
01:39:08.399 --> 01:39:11.399
especially once they're adding key pieces like
Sean Lemon, Darnell Sank, you like,

1642
01:39:11.439 --> 01:39:15.560
those are some major, major game
changers and the player those guys has

1643
01:39:15.600 --> 01:39:18.119
really put this team on another level. So, I mean, I'm I'm

1644
01:39:18.119 --> 01:39:23.399
blown away just how well this team
has come together and how pretty much this

1645
01:39:23.600 --> 01:39:28.319
entire season has galvanized them. That'd
be honest, how confident were with all

1646
01:39:28.319 --> 01:39:30.720
honesty, the Cliff and I were
talking about this a few episodes ago because

1647
01:39:30.760 --> 01:39:35.319
we rarely try to make predictions on
the pod, but we honestly said that

1648
01:39:35.359 --> 01:39:38.960
the Owls, at best we felt
could make it, make it a nine

1649
01:39:39.000 --> 01:39:42.439
to nine season. We really did. But then, you know, especially

1650
01:39:42.479 --> 01:39:45.720
coming off you know, coming off
this offseason that we had ownership issues.

1651
01:39:45.960 --> 01:39:48.760
I'm not thing up as signed free
agents and stuff like that. I mean,

1652
01:39:48.760 --> 01:39:53.880
it was, you know, you
can only be as so much of

1653
01:39:53.920 --> 01:39:56.720
a homer as you can for your
home team, but you got to look

1654
01:39:56.760 --> 01:40:00.720
at it in the right way.
We weren't sure, so, you know,

1655
01:40:00.960 --> 01:40:02.399
a very pleasant surprise, and as
they said, I was able to

1656
01:40:02.399 --> 01:40:08.880
get some some pieces that they really
missed that I think was said today that

1657
01:40:08.960 --> 01:40:11.880
really completed the puzzle, so to
speak. But obviously we'll see what happens

1658
01:40:11.880 --> 01:40:15.920
on see what happens tomorrow. I
saw, you know, because I you

1659
01:40:15.960 --> 01:40:17.800
know, I don't do a lot
of the other media sessions because we're hanging

1660
01:40:17.840 --> 01:40:19.680
out. But you know, I
saw, like you were saying the Alwits

1661
01:40:19.720 --> 01:40:24.000
walk through and moss And is doing
the impressed today and so doing press a

1662
01:40:24.079 --> 01:40:27.760
week. I've been very impressed with
him. I had my my beanie on

1663
01:40:27.920 --> 01:40:30.880
over my ball cap during the East
I mean because I lost that whole game.

1664
01:40:30.920 --> 01:40:33.319
I was transfixed that entire East finel
on CFL plus. When is his

1665
01:40:33.439 --> 01:40:36.119
mindset right now? How does he
feel going into this, because it's got

1666
01:40:36.159 --> 01:40:40.239
to be exciting for him. I
think initially there was a lot of gratitude,

1667
01:40:40.279 --> 01:40:43.079
like just the feeling like, Okay, we are glad to be here.

1668
01:40:43.119 --> 01:40:45.159
But I think that's been gone.
I think now it's a matter of

1669
01:40:45.159 --> 01:40:46.800
like, yes, we deserve to
be here, we are focused, this

1670
01:40:46.840 --> 01:40:48.920
is what we want to do,
this is what we meant to do.

1671
01:40:49.399 --> 01:40:53.880
And you talk about like even just
starting a training camp that was the focus

1672
01:40:54.039 --> 01:40:57.039
was. You know, they talk
about the called the Great Eight as if

1673
01:40:57.079 --> 01:41:00.560
they're trying to get go for their
eighth breakup championships. So it's a matter

1674
01:41:00.600 --> 01:41:04.079
of just go do your job,
be great and this and this is a

1675
01:41:04.119 --> 01:41:08.600
result. Like now we're less than
twenty four hours away from the Great Cup

1676
01:41:08.640 --> 01:41:12.960
being played and the Montreal Allots are
in it and nobody nobody saw this coming.

1677
01:41:13.239 --> 01:41:15.520
I mean, we we had an
inkling Okay, this team's gonna do

1678
01:41:15.560 --> 01:41:17.039
well. This team, there's a
potential here. They just got to do

1679
01:41:17.079 --> 01:41:21.239
the work. Guess what. They
did the work and they shocked a lot

1680
01:41:21.279 --> 01:41:26.960
of people. And I think Jason
Moss has to be as focus and as

1681
01:41:27.600 --> 01:41:30.920
internalized as he's been over the past
couple of weeks. He's got to be

1682
01:41:30.039 --> 01:41:32.880
inside. He's got to be like, hell, yeah, this is this

1683
01:41:32.960 --> 01:41:36.199
is exactly what I said was gonna
happen, and it's come to fruition.

1684
01:41:36.600 --> 01:41:39.680
I think they also that we noticed
to day too, is that he was

1685
01:41:39.680 --> 01:41:42.720
trying to take a lot of the
a lot of the emphasis off of him

1686
01:41:42.760 --> 01:41:46.439
today and the in the you know, the post game posts that practice media

1687
01:41:46.520 --> 01:41:51.520
scrump. He's trying to make sure
that get across that it's one team.

1688
01:41:53.119 --> 01:41:57.159
One team made it this far,
one team will continue. He even said,

1689
01:41:57.199 --> 01:41:59.880
I mean he's technically he's going out
for He's gonna go out be the

1690
01:41:59.880 --> 01:42:02.560
head coach, or sixty four minutes
or as he said, or forever how

1691
01:42:02.600 --> 01:42:08.279
long it takes to finish the game. I mean, it's it's just what

1692
01:42:08.560 --> 01:42:12.199
he was just talking about. You
know, when it comes to the culture.

1693
01:42:12.239 --> 01:42:15.119
You know, he's there for the
culture of Quebec. He's for the

1694
01:42:15.159 --> 01:42:17.439
for the Quebecers, for all of
all of the province, for the five

1695
01:42:17.479 --> 01:42:23.279
one four. It's just so much
emphasis and he's just showing so much gratitude,

1696
01:42:23.479 --> 01:42:27.319
not only to the organization but to
the city itself. Right, I'll

1697
01:42:27.359 --> 01:42:29.680
get you. You have a question
now or yeah I got a question.

1698
01:42:29.800 --> 01:42:31.199
Yeah. First of all, big
fan of the podcast, guys, like

1699
01:42:31.239 --> 01:42:35.439
the work you guys do over there. I was gonna ask, what is

1700
01:42:35.640 --> 01:42:42.720
the formula for Montreal Alwed's win tomorrow? Defense? Defense? That would help

1701
01:42:42.720 --> 01:42:47.159
if I did my job defense?
I mean, the defense has to play

1702
01:42:47.199 --> 01:42:50.479
the exact same game they played last
week where they just basically punched Chad Kelly

1703
01:42:50.479 --> 01:42:55.680
and the Argos in the mouth and
did it again. And again and again.

1704
01:42:55.720 --> 01:42:57.840
I think you're gonna have to do
that. You're gonna have to contain

1705
01:42:57.920 --> 01:43:00.119
Brady Oliver. There's no question about
that. This guy is an absolute beast.

1706
01:43:00.399 --> 01:43:03.319
But they were able to contain a
j Olett forst part, so why

1707
01:43:03.359 --> 01:43:06.600
couldn't you do that to Britty OLIVERA
You got to get into the Zach player's

1708
01:43:06.760 --> 01:43:11.159
cage. You got to rattle him
like he he's been stunned before. Let's

1709
01:43:11.199 --> 01:43:14.840
not forget the Elks at one point
led twenty two nothing earlier this season over

1710
01:43:14.840 --> 01:43:16.800
the Blue Bombers. So there's definitely
a lot that can go down. And

1711
01:43:16.840 --> 01:43:20.840
I think this Allett's team if they
can say focus, if Cody Fujardo doesn't

1712
01:43:20.840 --> 01:43:25.039
try to be the hero too much
and he just does the right like right

1713
01:43:25.039 --> 01:43:28.800
things like. I hate using the
term game manager, but sometimes you can

1714
01:43:28.840 --> 01:43:30.960
game manage your way to things.
Now, can you game manage your way

1715
01:43:30.960 --> 01:43:33.000
to a great Cup? I highly
doubt it, but I mean if Cody

1716
01:43:33.079 --> 01:43:38.479
just stays as we've called them,
consistently consistent Cody and this defense plays like

1717
01:43:38.479 --> 01:43:43.079
as Harison Fire, I think Montreal
could definitely make this a game and come

1718
01:43:43.079 --> 01:43:45.039
out with a win. I think
for me too. It's it's looking at

1719
01:43:45.279 --> 01:43:47.640
that there were some improvements that needed
to be done, you know, with

1720
01:43:48.439 --> 01:43:50.800
you know, Cody leading the team
in rushing last week. You know,

1721
01:43:50.840 --> 01:43:55.960
I don't I don't see the team, you know, making a game of

1722
01:43:56.000 --> 01:44:00.560
it. But I get stand back
involved, ant we involved. Uh you

1723
01:44:00.560 --> 01:44:03.520
know, it's those guys get going. We've seen what we've We've seen what

1724
01:44:03.560 --> 01:44:09.279
Williams Stampeck can do, especially last
year versus Toronto. Uh, you know

1725
01:44:09.720 --> 01:44:12.760
he's fully healthy this year. Who
knows? Man? I mean, I

1726
01:44:12.800 --> 01:44:15.840
said, just a matter of just
getting the running game going to and you

1727
01:44:15.840 --> 01:44:19.039
know, as Cliff and I've been
saying all year, even though you know

1728
01:44:19.279 --> 01:44:24.479
coach Moss has had a history of
going away from it, I don't think

1729
01:44:24.479 --> 01:44:27.680
there's gonna be any worry of that
this year. And on on Sunday,

1730
01:44:28.199 --> 01:44:30.279
Dorothy's tracking down Baker here our last
guest, and then she'll hop off before

1731
01:44:30.279 --> 01:44:33.199
we get out. I got a
question we've had a lot of debate about.

1732
01:44:33.239 --> 01:44:38.359
You know, people say like Cody
Fijardo isn't a isn't a number one

1733
01:44:38.439 --> 01:44:41.920
quarterback, right and he's fine replacement
level? How do you view him now?

1734
01:44:41.960 --> 01:44:44.560
And obviously you guys are excited to
get him in the off season and

1735
01:44:44.640 --> 01:44:46.039
then we talked about that. But
what have you made of him? And

1736
01:44:46.359 --> 01:44:49.279
is he going to help elevate them
going into the Great Cup. I think

1737
01:44:49.279 --> 01:44:51.680
he realizes what he has in front
of him, like he's already won a

1738
01:44:51.680 --> 01:44:55.880
Great Cup on when he was a
member of the Argylls, but this is

1739
01:44:55.920 --> 01:44:59.439
his first chance to lead a team
in the Great Cup. I think he

1740
01:44:59.720 --> 01:45:03.239
even with him earlier today, like
he realizes this moment and it's something that

1741
01:45:03.279 --> 01:45:06.399
he's been looking forward to for years
and something that he's ready for. And

1742
01:45:08.000 --> 01:45:10.960
quite frankly, it's it's gonna be
exciting to see what he can do,

1743
01:45:11.000 --> 01:45:15.119
because I think he realizes how important
this moment is and he's ready for it,

1744
01:45:15.119 --> 01:45:17.079
like this is something that he's been
working towards for a long time.

1745
01:45:17.119 --> 01:45:20.640
Like there's the redemption level of things
when it comes to his time in Saskatchewan.

1746
01:45:20.920 --> 01:45:25.000
And I don't think it's no to
say about so much proving them wrong

1747
01:45:25.279 --> 01:45:28.720
as it's proving himself right. As
far as I can do this, I

1748
01:45:28.760 --> 01:45:31.640
can lead this team to the Promise
Plan. So I expect Cody to be

1749
01:45:31.680 --> 01:45:33.319
able to go out and do that, like He doesn't have to be the

1750
01:45:33.359 --> 01:45:36.680
hero. He just has to play
the game that we expect him to and

1751
01:45:36.720 --> 01:45:41.560
I truly think with him under center, good things are going to happen for

1752
01:45:41.600 --> 01:45:44.680
this Montreal. He wants to be
one of the misfit toys. It's one

1753
01:45:44.680 --> 01:45:46.279
of the things he keeps on saying, it's my they're all part they're all

1754
01:45:46.359 --> 01:45:50.039
missfit toys based off of you know
what everybody thought they weren't going to do

1755
01:45:50.079 --> 01:45:55.399
this year, So I mean it. I think I said it's Cliff just

1756
01:45:55.439 --> 01:45:59.279
mentioned consistently consistent Cody. As long
as he's that, I think the Owls

1757
01:45:59.279 --> 01:46:01.439
will be fine. Final thoughts from
you? Anything else you want to share,

1758
01:46:01.479 --> 01:46:03.159
We got Matt ready to come on. Anything else you want to talk

1759
01:46:03.159 --> 01:46:05.439
about. Well, like I say, it's been an exciting week here,

1760
01:46:05.479 --> 01:46:10.199
a great Cup, but I know
Alowhit's nation is excited about the alow Wett.

1761
01:46:10.399 --> 01:46:14.199
I feel like the rest of Canada
too. Everybody outside of Winnipeg apparently

1762
01:46:14.279 --> 01:46:16.279
is pulling for the Alouettes, which
is pretty cool, especially since, like

1763
01:46:16.319 --> 01:46:19.399
they said, everybody had talked about
all this team is gonna be garbage.

1764
01:46:19.439 --> 01:46:24.039
They got no hope, blah blah
blah, Like all that noise that's clearly

1765
01:46:24.039 --> 01:46:27.159
in the past, just like what
the Alwitz did this season is clearly in

1766
01:46:27.159 --> 01:46:30.479
the past. Right now, all
that matters is what happens tomorrow, And

1767
01:46:30.560 --> 01:46:31.640
I think this team is really gonna
shock a lot of people. I'm not

1768
01:46:31.640 --> 01:46:34.119
guaranteeing a win by any stretch,
but I think this game is gonna be

1769
01:46:34.199 --> 01:46:40.720
very competitive, very entertaining, and
I truly think Montreal can get the job

1770
01:46:40.760 --> 01:46:44.520
done. Yeah. No, I
said it's gonna be a very interesting game.

1771
01:46:44.560 --> 01:46:45.920
I'm not in a predictions either,
but I think it's it's gonna be

1772
01:46:45.960 --> 01:46:49.399
a fun game. I really do. Who knows what can set off either

1773
01:46:49.399 --> 01:46:53.840
of these two either these two teams
tomorrow, because if it starts off with

1774
01:46:53.880 --> 01:46:59.399
another Dakla at pick six, who
knows well, and you got Rooy James

1775
01:46:59.479 --> 01:47:03.000
lastyear, you're now here right a
super star up the postseason. I will

1776
01:47:03.039 --> 01:47:08.359
say, I think there's a very
strong whether it's pro Montreal or anti Winnipeg

1777
01:47:08.439 --> 01:47:10.520
or I mean, I think that
there was a lot of people that wanted

1778
01:47:10.520 --> 01:47:13.199
to see Montreal win this for a
myriad of reasons. But I think that's

1779
01:47:13.199 --> 01:47:16.319
exciting, oh definitely, And that's
incredible. I mean it's it's so funny.

1780
01:47:16.319 --> 01:47:18.600
Like the last time Yelt's r in
the Great Cup was twenty ten and

1781
01:47:18.640 --> 01:47:25.520
it was i'd say seven to one
Rider fans versus Alouett's fans in attendance,

1782
01:47:25.560 --> 01:47:29.159
and once again Montreal just had to
play their game, like they knew that

1783
01:47:29.199 --> 01:47:30.560
they could beat Saskatchewan and they went
out and did. It was a lot

1784
01:47:30.600 --> 01:47:34.600
more competitive, a lot more exciting, But that was thirteen years ago.

1785
01:47:35.000 --> 01:47:38.520
Like now this this is a new
team, the new era. This is

1786
01:47:38.960 --> 01:47:41.840
a whole lot of new stuff that
really truly nobody saw it coming. And

1787
01:47:42.600 --> 01:47:45.640
it's going to be exciting. I
said, I can't help it be just

1788
01:47:45.680 --> 01:47:46.800
a little bit excited. I know, we're less than twenty four hours away

1789
01:47:46.800 --> 01:47:50.520
from the from kickoff, this is
going to be an absolute gym of a

1790
01:47:50.560 --> 01:47:55.720
game, wind loser draw and had
to finish off their their potentials first season

1791
01:47:55.720 --> 01:47:59.319
for our new owner. Yep,
I mean for Pierre, Yeah, for

1792
01:47:59.319 --> 01:48:01.479
Pierre Carpellota. I mean I can
only imagine what he's feeling right now.

1793
01:48:01.520 --> 01:48:04.399
So I mean it's if he's feeling
as much as we are in Alowitz Nation.

1794
01:48:05.560 --> 01:48:10.439
It's hype just seeing me jo so
much hype Tomorrow, Well, bone

1795
01:48:10.520 --> 01:48:13.039
Chance. Thank you both for coming
and I appreciate it. We'll get Matt

1796
01:48:13.079 --> 01:48:15.479
Baker in here. Last one door
at the Baker before we get out of

1797
01:48:15.520 --> 01:48:16.960
here. Thank you guys so much. Appreciate it. Man, good to

1798
01:48:16.960 --> 01:48:19.479
see you. Man. All right, let's get it. Matt Baker,

1799
01:48:19.600 --> 01:48:23.880
the man they may able to get
Evan back in. Evan can hop in.

1800
01:48:23.960 --> 01:48:27.159
We'll do the musical chairs one last
time. Here we killed him with

1801
01:48:27.199 --> 01:48:31.079
the Mike Campbles, the man that
made this all possible. Here, Matt,

1802
01:48:31.119 --> 01:48:34.000
get over here. That's in the
hot seat. Get over here,

1803
01:48:34.640 --> 01:48:38.680
Matt. We're here at the lions
Cent. First up there we go with

1804
01:48:38.760 --> 01:48:42.039
Jacob. Thank you so much for
setting all this up. Yeah, I

1805
01:48:42.039 --> 01:48:45.560
was gonna say, I got you
this nice location. At least I could

1806
01:48:45.600 --> 01:48:47.199
do is get a prime seat.
So this is awesome. It's good.

1807
01:48:47.520 --> 01:48:51.039
I like your great cup scar for
next year. I assume one of these

1808
01:48:51.079 --> 01:48:55.279
is coming to marcast direction. I
assume right. Yeah, I'm gonna have

1809
01:48:55.359 --> 01:48:58.600
to talk to the person who handles
the merchandise and I might have to put

1810
01:48:58.640 --> 01:49:00.640
in a special request. Yeah,
I mean you can maybe finding for Yeah,

1811
01:49:00.640 --> 01:49:04.359
for those watching, A big part
of my role this week, I

1812
01:49:04.640 --> 01:49:08.479
did my job and helping Mike.
Yeah, a big part of my role

1813
01:49:08.520 --> 01:49:10.960
this week, now that we're not
in the game, I'm sure we'll talk

1814
01:49:11.000 --> 01:49:14.479
about that. Is Vancouver twenty twenty
four. We had a cool little launch

1815
01:49:15.000 --> 01:49:19.079
in the lions Den here last night. Commissioner Ambrosie was here and those watching,

1816
01:49:19.319 --> 01:49:24.680
supporters of this podcast, supporters of
this league get to Vancouver next year,

1817
01:49:24.720 --> 01:49:27.920
it's it's going to be a party. Yeah, Evan, what are

1818
01:49:27.960 --> 01:49:30.359
you expecting next year VC Gray Cup? No, I mean, I think

1819
01:49:30.359 --> 01:49:34.239
it's tremendous. You know, part
of my family is obviously from Vancouver on

1820
01:49:34.279 --> 01:49:36.960
my mom's side. Great city,
you know, spend a lot of time

1821
01:49:38.000 --> 01:49:41.319
there. BC Place being, you
know, a fantastic venue in the Canadian

1822
01:49:41.359 --> 01:49:44.600
Football League. I think it's gonna
be a really fun time. Obviously,

1823
01:49:44.800 --> 01:49:45.840
you know, this is my first
Great Cup, so you know, it's

1824
01:49:45.840 --> 01:49:48.680
been fun so far, and but
next year I'll kind of get to weigh

1825
01:49:48.720 --> 01:49:50.840
against this one, and you know, hopefully more in the future. But

1826
01:49:51.000 --> 01:49:55.000
yeah, ultimately I think it's it's
gonna be fun. Jason and Mar's got

1827
01:49:55.000 --> 01:49:57.479
a lot of you know, Hamilton's
sound good here, but Mar's got a

1828
01:49:57.479 --> 01:49:59.680
lot of they'll live up to well, you look what they've done with the

1829
01:50:00.159 --> 01:50:02.680
the kickoff cof concerts, for the
home openers, all the tailgate parties,

1830
01:50:02.680 --> 01:50:06.520
so I'm really excited to see what
they put together or for next year.

1831
01:50:06.600 --> 01:50:10.119
Yeah, man, I like,
you know, we see what Amar does

1832
01:50:10.159 --> 01:50:13.279
on like a normal Saturday game or
you know, I mean normal, but

1833
01:50:13.319 --> 01:50:15.279
like what I mean, whether we
have expectation levels going in the next year.

1834
01:50:15.560 --> 01:50:18.800
Yeah, I mean, don't really
have anything to say other other than

1835
01:50:18.840 --> 01:50:23.840
that, like I expect something special. I expect him to try to knock

1836
01:50:23.840 --> 01:50:27.960
it out of the park. I
mean talking here a precedent set with LLL

1837
01:50:28.119 --> 01:50:31.920
cool J one Republic home opener concerts. By all accounts, that's gonna be

1838
01:50:31.960 --> 01:50:36.239
an annual thing. So you know, you see green Day and Carrie Underwood,

1839
01:50:36.279 --> 01:50:44.039
and given Amar Dolman's connections and his
experience with landing some big ticket guests

1840
01:50:44.039 --> 01:50:48.640
so to speak, I have to
think I'd expect something pretty good halftime weekend

1841
01:50:48.880 --> 01:50:55.199
performances. Zero insight info at all, but I'm just expecting it to be

1842
01:50:55.399 --> 01:50:57.840
uh to be talked. If people
have asked me all day, I keep

1843
01:50:57.880 --> 01:51:00.720
forgetting to tell you what's green Day's
first predictions for We'll go around here.

1844
01:51:00.760 --> 01:51:03.640
First on Green Day plays to marcause
I don't think Dan ralis getting into the

1845
01:51:03.640 --> 01:51:06.000
green bays that list of baby,
what do you want Green Day to play?

1846
01:51:06.119 --> 01:51:10.640
What do I well? My prediction
someone else asked me this. I

1847
01:51:10.680 --> 01:51:15.039
think Holiday starts it off. It
just seems like a natural I want basket

1848
01:51:15.079 --> 01:51:18.600
case, That's what I want first. But I figured they play American idiot

1849
01:51:18.680 --> 01:51:24.960
just because they finally, you know, and you just make it Canadian idiot

1850
01:51:24.960 --> 01:51:27.640
for this occasion. Yeah, yeah, I agree with Matt. I think

1851
01:51:27.680 --> 01:51:30.840
it's gonna be Holiday that opens up. But I do think they're gonna play

1852
01:51:30.840 --> 01:51:33.119
American idiot because it's too perfect,
not too evan. Yeah, i'd agree.

1853
01:51:33.119 --> 01:51:35.399
I mean I'm no Green Day super
fans, so some of that might

1854
01:51:35.399 --> 01:51:38.720
be above my pay grade. But
no, I think it's a good choice.

1855
01:51:38.960 --> 01:51:42.119
Uh, Matt, you know,
we in a different world. This

1856
01:51:42.279 --> 01:51:46.600
is a different Great Cup team festival
here with a VC And what did you

1857
01:51:46.640 --> 01:51:49.479
make of the season and thoughts kind
of finale that we've been. I mean,

1858
01:51:49.520 --> 01:51:51.920
obviously we're still kind of in whatever, but post more of them from

1859
01:51:51.960 --> 01:51:56.479
the finals. Yeah, very good
season that just had a bad ending.

1860
01:51:56.800 --> 01:52:00.439
That's simple as that. I mean, consider all the question, remember we

1861
01:52:00.439 --> 01:52:02.960
were talking at the start of the
season, and the question from a lot

1862
01:52:03.000 --> 01:52:05.680
of your guests that you've had on
today already, how are they going to

1863
01:52:05.760 --> 01:52:09.760
replace Nathan Rourke? How are they
going to overcome that? Well, I

1864
01:52:09.760 --> 01:52:13.760
think it's safe to say the quarterback
position is of no concern. I mean,

1865
01:52:13.800 --> 01:52:16.439
I know Vernon Adams Junior didn't have
his best game last week, but

1866
01:52:16.680 --> 01:52:20.439
he was obviously a little banged up. Different environment outside. I know,

1867
01:52:20.479 --> 01:52:25.199
I try to downplay it, but
the cold weather, the noise that plays

1868
01:52:25.239 --> 01:52:29.800
a role for a team that does
its best damage inside on a faster track.

1869
01:52:29.880 --> 01:52:33.159
But I think the pieces are in
place of Hey, there's always going

1870
01:52:33.199 --> 01:52:38.880
to be change. But talking to
Neil McAvoy on our podcast today, Inside

1871
01:52:38.880 --> 01:52:43.840
here First and now, it's clear
they've prioritized a list of potential guys that

1872
01:52:43.880 --> 01:52:47.920
they have to get resigned. Matthew
Betts is one of those. But yeah,

1873
01:52:48.199 --> 01:52:54.039
excite, exciting season had some exciting
moments, some great individual performances,

1874
01:52:54.079 --> 01:52:57.560
but the end of the day,
it was Billy Bean and Moneyball who said,

1875
01:52:57.560 --> 01:53:00.720
if you lose your last game of
the season, nobody gives a you

1876
01:53:00.760 --> 01:53:03.119
know one, I'm not going to
go that extreme. But I think with

1877
01:53:03.279 --> 01:53:08.319
time people will realize it was another
special year. But have to get over

1878
01:53:08.319 --> 01:53:11.399
that hump. Now. Yeah,
you know we had talked in Vernon and

1879
01:53:11.680 --> 01:53:15.920
it is of any issue that could
have been an issue all season. Amazing

1880
01:53:15.920 --> 01:53:18.359
that Vernon was not that I talk
about bats taking home some hardware here.

1881
01:53:18.399 --> 01:53:21.880
How's exciting was that for him?
Yeah? Well, very well earned and

1882
01:53:23.479 --> 01:53:27.720
was up against some good competition in
a Darius Pickett as well. Keep in

1883
01:53:27.720 --> 01:53:30.439
mind, when you have a team
like Toronto sixteen and two, a lot

1884
01:53:30.479 --> 01:53:34.399
of times those guys clean up the
awards, and yeah, they got their

1885
01:53:34.439 --> 01:53:40.520
fair share Chad Kelly mop much to
the chagrin of some of those Winnipeg guys,

1886
01:53:40.560 --> 01:53:44.920
but it is what it is.
But yeah, great player, even

1887
01:53:44.960 --> 01:53:48.720
better person. And it's funny he
was down playing it when we kept asking

1888
01:53:48.760 --> 01:53:54.640
about it. On pace to break
that sack record, but that's a special

1889
01:53:54.680 --> 01:53:59.880
accomplishment and for that he should be
commended. And that's the type of guy

1890
01:54:00.359 --> 01:54:02.439
dating back to it, and I
remember him going through the combine and the

1891
01:54:02.520 --> 01:54:06.079
draft processed third overall pick. I
think it was in twenty nineteen. But

1892
01:54:08.159 --> 01:54:14.079
remember what happened with Edmonton coaching change. They prioritize different guys, and right

1893
01:54:14.119 --> 01:54:15.680
from the moment he got here,
he was a player we knew had a

1894
01:54:15.760 --> 01:54:20.199
high motor. That's saying to hear
about him and yeah, that's he's become

1895
01:54:20.239 --> 01:54:25.199
a cornerstone Jays. Any questions,
Ah, well, just to build off

1896
01:54:25.239 --> 01:54:28.279
the point of Vets, I think
that you know, a couple of years

1897
01:54:28.319 --> 01:54:30.760
ago, I mean, didn't he
have like zero sacks or that zero sacks

1898
01:54:30.760 --> 01:54:34.359
with Edmonton in a starting role.
So he kind of got written off of

1899
01:54:34.399 --> 01:54:38.239
it, and then he got a
big contract in free agency and he's more

1900
01:54:38.279 --> 01:54:41.479
than limbed up to it. It's
crazy, like like if I were to

1901
01:54:41.520 --> 01:54:44.119
sit there, like a couple of
years ago, like and see where his

1902
01:54:44.239 --> 01:54:47.479
career's gone, and you know,
very highly tenered guy coming out of the

1903
01:54:47.479 --> 01:54:51.840
CFL draft second overall pick, I
do believe. So yeah, I'm just

1904
01:54:51.880 --> 01:54:55.760
really impressed with what he's done in
his career. And then post more than

1905
01:54:55.840 --> 01:54:58.000
thoughts on BC and then we'll get
back to MAP. Well, I'm gonna

1906
01:54:58.000 --> 01:55:00.399
stand by this statement. I think
PC was the most fun of football team

1907
01:55:00.439 --> 01:55:03.359
to watch in the CFL this year, especially offensively. I think with Vernon,

1908
01:55:03.560 --> 01:55:05.319
you know, the way he was
able to distribute the ball. I've

1909
01:55:05.319 --> 01:55:09.119
been talking about that all season.
I think the amount of weapons that they

1910
01:55:09.159 --> 01:55:11.960
had, it'll be interesting to see, you know, in the offseason how

1911
01:55:12.000 --> 01:55:14.840
the front offices manages, you know, bringing back some of those guys.

1912
01:55:14.880 --> 01:55:16.880
But ultimately, I think this was
an incredibly fun team to watch. It's

1913
01:55:16.880 --> 01:55:20.560
a shame that they ended up losing
to the same team in the same position

1914
01:55:20.840 --> 01:55:24.600
in the playoffs, you know,
being in Winnipeg and having all that.

1915
01:55:24.680 --> 01:55:28.119
But we can't change that, right, we can only look at what's happened.

1916
01:55:28.159 --> 01:55:30.159
And you know, obviously I'm biased, like you know, BC that

1917
01:55:30.199 --> 01:55:33.640
there's a connection there for me.
But yeah, I mean this team,

1918
01:55:33.720 --> 01:55:36.840
this team was great and there's a
lot to build off of. Again,

1919
01:55:36.880 --> 01:55:40.359
I know it was already brought up, but yeah, the biggest question,

1920
01:55:40.399 --> 01:55:43.600
I think more than anything, was
how do you replace Nathan Rourke And they,

1921
01:55:43.720 --> 01:55:46.199
you know, hats off again to
BC's front office for not only bringing

1922
01:55:46.239 --> 01:55:49.760
in Vernon Adams, but bringing them
in when they did. They traded for

1923
01:55:49.840 --> 01:55:54.199
him at the end of that twenty
two season and you know, that's pay

1924
01:55:54.279 --> 01:55:57.239
dividends for him. That looks like, you know, another franchise quarterback.

1925
01:55:57.279 --> 01:56:00.159
And the thing about Vernon is you
know, he's found a home there.

1926
01:56:00.520 --> 01:56:03.279
He played well, he's you know, he's got Washington ties, so he's

1927
01:56:03.319 --> 01:56:05.880
found a home there. He's not
going to pack up and leave like Rourke,

1928
01:56:05.920 --> 01:56:08.880
did you know, to the NFL, which is fine, we're not

1929
01:56:08.920 --> 01:56:11.800
going to get into that. Well, but just to sort of follow up

1930
01:56:11.840 --> 01:56:15.760
on the geographical aspect of it,
I mean, I know you saw it.

1931
01:56:15.279 --> 01:56:19.279
Kudos to Nick Kowalski and Liam Thompson, our video guys. They chronicled

1932
01:56:19.520 --> 01:56:24.640
this. In the offseason. Vernon
had basically all the receivers and all the

1933
01:56:24.880 --> 01:56:28.479
all the DB's, the skill guys. He hosted them down in Tacoma,

1934
01:56:28.520 --> 01:56:30.880
Washington for a little bit of a
sort of an impromptu mini camp. He

1935
01:56:30.920 --> 01:56:33.840
did the same thing when he was
in Montreal. He flew out a bunch

1936
01:56:33.840 --> 01:56:38.680
of Alouettes and he called it Lion
Lion Kings was the name of it.

1937
01:56:38.760 --> 01:56:44.439
So he's all in with this franchise. I mean, he understands the importance

1938
01:56:44.479 --> 01:56:46.640
of a starting quarterback on the field, but off the field too. You

1939
01:56:46.720 --> 01:56:50.520
have to be an ambassador. You
have to sell the game, and he's

1940
01:56:50.560 --> 01:56:55.079
done a great job of all that. His teammates have bought in really,

1941
01:56:55.199 --> 01:56:58.720
and it wasn't an easy situation coming
in right. Nathan Rourke doing what he

1942
01:56:58.760 --> 01:57:01.800
was doing, goes down with the
yeah, nothing but good things to say

1943
01:57:01.840 --> 01:57:08.039
about him. Have anything else on
that? I don't think so, Rady.

1944
01:57:08.119 --> 01:57:10.399
Now I hear the conversation, we're
gonna bring Dorothy in here and then

1945
01:57:10.399 --> 01:57:13.720
we're gonna put this show the bed. Final thoughts here, great cup this

1946
01:57:13.800 --> 01:57:15.960
year, looking forward to next yor
anything else you want to share about this

1947
01:57:16.039 --> 01:57:21.520
game specifically. I'm intrigued by it. I mean, it's it's always it's

1948
01:57:21.520 --> 01:57:26.640
an intriguing thing when you have a
situation like the Alouettes getting better and I

1949
01:57:26.680 --> 01:57:29.239
know everyone I know. The knock
on Montreal was, oh, they can't

1950
01:57:29.239 --> 01:57:31.960
beat the good teams, but they
just made a major statement, Say what

1951
01:57:31.960 --> 01:57:35.640
you want. Did the argos maybe
contribute to their demise? Possibly? But

1952
01:57:36.359 --> 01:57:41.279
I'm intrigued for this tomorrow. I
have a feeling the Blue Bombers that whole

1953
01:57:41.840 --> 01:57:45.319
that whole motivation thing for them.
They knew they let one slip last year.

1954
01:57:45.000 --> 01:57:48.279
I think I think Winnipeg wins it, but it's gonna come down to

1955
01:57:48.399 --> 01:57:51.760
the three minute warning. But hey, I would not be surprised if if

1956
01:57:51.760 --> 01:57:56.279
Montreal shocked the world. But I'm
excited to see this. See if that

1957
01:57:56.319 --> 01:58:00.159
Aloette defense what they can do against
Brady Oliver Ea and that's win a peg

1958
01:58:00.199 --> 01:58:02.960
attack. Well, Matt, I
appreciate it. Like I said, thanks

1959
01:58:02.960 --> 01:58:05.520
again giving us a good spot here. The lion said, I appreciate it.

1960
01:58:05.520 --> 01:58:08.199
Mail our life easy, So I
appreciate it, sir, Well,

1961
01:58:08.239 --> 01:58:11.079
yeah, we third times, char
Remember two years ago we were trying to

1962
01:58:11.079 --> 01:58:14.920
figure out the George Hamilton pub across
the street. There was no internet,

1963
01:58:14.960 --> 01:58:17.800
there was no it was all like
rotary phones and it was really bad.

1964
01:58:17.880 --> 01:58:21.560
And last year Casino Regi and okay, not bad, it was good.

1965
01:58:21.600 --> 01:58:25.760
But lions Den, let's make this
the new tradition. Then. Yeah,

1966
01:58:25.800 --> 01:58:28.960
Carolyn said, I have a home
here anytime, so she's already promised that.

1967
01:58:29.039 --> 01:58:31.600
So I appreciate your castle is our
castle or whatever. The seeing is

1968
01:58:31.840 --> 01:58:34.720
awesome. Appreciate it, Matt.
Thank you. What's getting at Dorothy here

1969
01:58:34.760 --> 01:58:38.119
real quick before the end, and
then we'll put this show to bed.

1970
01:58:38.600 --> 01:58:42.079
Matt, see if you can get
my wife over there. Guys winding down

1971
01:58:42.159 --> 01:58:44.399
here, I get about the two
hour mark. How are we doing?

1972
01:58:44.840 --> 01:58:47.600
Doing good? I mean, longer
show than what we usually do. But

1973
01:58:47.680 --> 01:58:49.760
this is a lot of fun,
a lot of the movie piece this year,

1974
01:58:49.840 --> 01:58:54.079
Dorothy, you've been chatting. What's
the sideline report? Yeah, people

1975
01:58:54.079 --> 01:58:58.199
are excited. I met some Lions
fans and they're having a good time.

1976
01:58:58.399 --> 01:59:02.840
So they had an interesting that they
said, whenever the Canucks lose, then

1977
01:59:03.079 --> 01:59:08.720
that means that the Lions win the
Gray Cup. Apparently It's like, okay,

1978
01:59:09.720 --> 01:59:12.239
I don't know. Well, the
Canucks are playing the Cracking tonight,

1979
01:59:12.239 --> 01:59:15.159
so I hope they lose tonight.
We were banking they were banking on them

1980
01:59:15.159 --> 01:59:17.560
losing. So yeah, what if
you made the Hamilton so far Jason's wonderful

1981
01:59:17.600 --> 01:59:21.000
home city. Yes, I think
it's awesome. We went out last night

1982
01:59:21.039 --> 01:59:25.880
with Jason, had a beer at
that Merritt Brewing which was really fun.

1983
01:59:26.199 --> 01:59:29.640
And yeah, it's been awesome.
It's kind of fun to be back in

1984
01:59:29.760 --> 01:59:31.479
a city that we were at,
you know, two years ago, so

1985
01:59:31.520 --> 01:59:36.319
we know some of the same old
Johnson places that we've been so yeah,

1986
01:59:36.399 --> 01:59:42.800
and I got some recommends from Alex
about places to go. I guess the

1987
01:59:42.239 --> 01:59:46.600
the something park. It's by the
beach, play boardwalk park or something anyway,

1988
01:59:46.680 --> 01:59:50.119
and there's a brewery there so yeah, it's good. They're a great

1989
01:59:50.199 --> 01:59:54.000
cup here, your team. I
have yet to watch a great Cup without

1990
01:59:54.000 --> 01:59:56.680
the Winnipega the They're you excited to
see them? Are you hoping for the

1991
01:59:56.720 --> 02:00:00.720
cody for jar the Redepth store here? Wow? Nope, not, it's

1992
02:00:00.760 --> 02:00:05.560
not delivery, it's the yard.
No, I'm kidding. No, I'm

1993
02:00:05.880 --> 02:00:11.640
definitely go within a peg clarios and
everything. So yeah, I'm excited.

1994
02:00:11.760 --> 02:00:15.640
I'm just excited to see the game. And yeah, it's gonna be good.

1995
02:00:15.960 --> 02:00:19.239
It's not as cold as last year
Regina was freezing and snowing, and

1996
02:00:19.840 --> 02:00:24.680
it's been beautiful. So are you
excited for Green Day? Yes, I'm

1997
02:00:24.760 --> 02:00:28.600
very excited for Green Day. We
just bought much more expensive tickets to see

1998
02:00:28.600 --> 02:00:31.159
Green Day and Seattle here next year, so certainly cheaper here. Yes,

1999
02:00:31.279 --> 02:00:35.159
yes, that's true Green Day and
wheezer. Well we'll wind you down here,

2000
02:00:35.560 --> 02:00:38.960
Jason. Anything else from you and
I'll give Evan last year, we'll

2001
02:00:38.960 --> 02:00:41.079
get out of here. We got
a band Starry Van here, so it

2002
02:00:41.119 --> 02:00:43.479
might be a good time to get
out of here anyway. Yeah, nothing

2003
02:00:43.560 --> 02:00:45.680
much for me, you know,
just a great show today and really looking

2004
02:00:45.680 --> 02:00:49.000
forward to the game tomorrow. Yeah, James here a great guest, a

2005
02:00:49.039 --> 02:00:53.920
great list of guests, Marcus better
than and I appreciate I appreciate everyone watching

2006
02:00:53.920 --> 02:00:56.520
live today. I know we'll get
viewers tomorrow and stuff as well. I

2007
02:00:56.560 --> 02:00:59.600
appreciate it. Evan thoughts from you, I mean, yeah, what a

2008
02:00:59.600 --> 02:01:01.560
great guy. It's a lot of
great opinions. I'm very interesting to see,

2009
02:01:01.560 --> 02:01:04.319
you know, everyone's takes. I
you know, not everybody's on the

2010
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same page, even in the league
where there's only nine teams and there's only

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so many players and awards and things
of that nature. But that's what makes

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the CFL great. It's unique.
And I'm sure we'll see that on displayed

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tomorrow with the actual Great Cup.
If you guys are watching this, give

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it the thumbs up. But you
know, like I said, a ton

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of work Dorothy managing the guests,
and Jason spending the time, Evan coming

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up and you know we're Evan had
miss flights instead of the Houston airport and

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then you know, it flew overnight
start. You know, I saw comments

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and talking about you know, it's
you know, obviously TSN and all that,

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but this is a lot of work
coming in and this is unpaid labor,

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and I just appreciate everyone watching it
and all the guests obviously in far

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Han and Tim and Cliffe there show
here talking to Dan, Ralph and everyone

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else. So, like I said, make sure you like and subscribe,

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I'll play this year. We're gonna
go. I'll probably go take a shower

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here and then we'll get out of
here and go party in Hamilton tonight.

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But I appreciate everyone's time, and
we'll see you next time. Go alilets

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or is that where we're saying?
Here, goin Beeg, going a pig.

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I just want a good game.
Yeah, I'm in the same boat.

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I'm not gonna get too controversial.
All right, Thanks guys, We'll

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see you next time.