WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.159 --> 00:00:05.599 Karen, would you say that you understand the true nature of spirituality? I 2 00:00:05.639 --> 00:00:09.599 mean the true nature? That's kind of a lofty it is. I have 3 00:00:09.640 --> 00:00:12.560 an idea. Well, we ta. We do tackle the hard topics on 4 00:00:12.599 --> 00:00:14.839 the show. Yes, we do. Okay, Well, and then in 5 00:00:14.880 --> 00:00:21.640 your estimation what is spirituality? Do you have a week? We don't. 6 00:00:21.679 --> 00:00:24.640 Actually, we've got about twelve seconds. Well, we probably should hear it 7 00:00:24.879 --> 00:00:27.079 from an expert, not from me. I don't want to screw anybody up, 8 00:00:27.120 --> 00:00:29.000 you know what, that's a great idea. So what if I told 9 00:00:29.000 --> 00:00:34.359 you that there is a large section of the spiritual world that's doing spirituality wrong? 10 00:00:34.960 --> 00:00:38.359 Oh mm hmm. And what if I told you that fixing that is 11 00:00:38.439 --> 00:00:41.920 just as simple ast stepping back and allowing yourself to come to the forefront of 12 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:46.320 your practice. It doesn't seem too difficult to do. Well. Today's guest 13 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:50.840 believes that perfectionism is one of the main challenges of spirituality, and she's going 14 00:00:50.840 --> 00:00:55.600 to share with us the best way to do spirituality right. Well, we'll 15 00:00:55.600 --> 00:00:58.320 dive into that and a whole lot more on today's episode of The Skeptic met 16 00:00:58.320 --> 00:01:03.320 Physicians, starting right now. My name is Will and I'm Karen, and 17 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:06.760 unlike moulderin Scully, we both want to believe. So we've embarked in a 18 00:01:06.840 --> 00:01:11.040 journey of discovery. We've talked to people deeply entrenched in the spiritual and metaphysical 19 00:01:11.040 --> 00:01:15.040 world. We've thrown ourselves into weird and wonderful experiences. I even joined a 20 00:01:15.040 --> 00:01:18.920 coven of witches and wait, you joined a coven yep, all on the 21 00:01:18.959 --> 00:01:23.400 interests of finding something, anything that will prove that there's something beyond this physical, 22 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:27.879 three dimensional world we all live in. This is the Skeptic Metaphysicians. 23 00:01:40.480 --> 00:01:42.000 Stop the presses. If you are a regular listener, you know that we 24 00:01:42.040 --> 00:01:45.840 don't like to break into the show like this very often, so you know 25 00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:48.920 that if we're doing it, it's for a very special reason and you're gonna 26 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:52.439 love it. 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Well thanks, Okaven, 35 00:02:25.840 --> 00:02:29.080 Hey, we're going to put that link in our show notes, So go 36 00:02:29.080 --> 00:02:31.439 ahead and head to Skeptic Menisician dot com. You'll find a link directly there 37 00:02:31.520 --> 00:02:37.199 if you missed it. Otherwise dropstation dot io slash Skeptic Metaphysician. I'll see 38 00:02:37.199 --> 00:02:44.960 you there. Hey there, I'm Will and I'm Carus and today we are 39 00:02:45.080 --> 00:02:49.759 absolutely blessed to have Carrie Kay with us on the show. Now. A 40 00:02:49.879 --> 00:02:54.240 childhood of severe illnesses led her to have many encounters with death and spending a 41 00:02:54.280 --> 00:02:59.159 lot of time in this otherworld. The experience beyond the veil gave her access 42 00:02:59.199 --> 00:03:04.240 to what she described as pre consciousness. Now she feels that that's the godlike 43 00:03:04.280 --> 00:03:07.599 state we all exist in, as soul's pre embodiment and in direct union with 44 00:03:07.680 --> 00:03:13.000 God's source consciousness. She began remembering at a very young age not only who 45 00:03:13.039 --> 00:03:16.400 she was as an infinite soul, but who we all are and why we 46 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:20.960 came to this planet and these lives. I can't wait to die in today's 47 00:03:21.000 --> 00:03:23.439 topic. So with without further ado want to welcome to the show, Carrie. 48 00:03:23.560 --> 00:03:27.560 K Carrie, thank you so much for coming on. Thank you so 49 00:03:27.639 --> 00:03:30.240 much. It's beautiful to be here. Oh, we are excited. I 50 00:03:30.319 --> 00:03:36.599 took a deep dive down the rabbit hole looking into you, and I'm excited 51 00:03:36.639 --> 00:03:39.360 about the conversation because what you talk about is really right up my alley. 52 00:03:39.520 --> 00:03:43.479 And I'm excited that Karen, get to get that you're going to learn about 53 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:47.240 all that stuff now, you know we're talking about Well, let's just get 54 00:03:47.319 --> 00:03:51.960 right to the nitty. You say that you see the false matrix to be 55 00:03:52.000 --> 00:03:58.159 a minefield of lies and manipulation, and that this false matrix is manipulating the 56 00:03:58.240 --> 00:04:02.759 spiritual community in an attempt to prevent our ascension. That is a lot to 57 00:04:02.919 --> 00:04:08.240 unpass. Wow, So let's take you a separate a time, because that's 58 00:04:08.280 --> 00:04:12.439 a lot. Yeah, well it is a lot. But you know, 59 00:04:12.680 --> 00:04:15.319 we've been living life with blindfolds on. We've been living life as if this 60 00:04:15.480 --> 00:04:19.240 is normal, this is the way it's supposed to be. There's nothing to 61 00:04:19.279 --> 00:04:23.800 see here, there's nothing wrong with this picture. When back at the ranch, 62 00:04:24.000 --> 00:04:28.040 everything is wrong with this picture. But we've got to have the eyes 63 00:04:28.079 --> 00:04:30.519 to see that. And in order to have the eyes to see that we've 64 00:04:30.560 --> 00:04:35.480 been living in a false matrix. We've got to be prepared for some harsh 65 00:04:35.639 --> 00:04:41.680 truths. And this is something that a lot of the spiritual community has had 66 00:04:41.680 --> 00:04:46.160 a problem with, the harsh truths. A lot of the spiritual community. 67 00:04:46.199 --> 00:04:50.879 They're looking for the fluff and the unicorns and the rainbows and the pretties, 68 00:04:51.279 --> 00:04:56.959 and they have an illusion that it's all about high vibe. Baby, It's 69 00:04:57.040 --> 00:05:01.560 about how positive can my thought be, how loud can my mantra be, 70 00:05:02.079 --> 00:05:06.000 how vegan can my salad be? How many asanas can I do in my 71 00:05:06.120 --> 00:05:12.879 yoga? How many beautiful things can I say? And in my accent. 72 00:05:12.879 --> 00:05:15.279 I know in every country it's different, but here, if you meet a 73 00:05:15.360 --> 00:05:19.120 hippie that be very shush was shu, you know that be very hazard going 74 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:24.079 has everything in your world and this is all cool. Don't get me wrong. 75 00:05:24.279 --> 00:05:28.480 I can hug a tree and be elated just like the next person. 76 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:33.759 But I'm a very firm believer in seeing reality for what it is and not 77 00:05:33.839 --> 00:05:41.879 getting lost in the daydream, which so many spiritual people don't even realize that 78 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:44.920 they are. And it's not that they're bad, you guys. It's not 79 00:05:44.959 --> 00:05:47.560 that I'm saying, ooh, the spiritual community, they're lost and I need 80 00:05:47.600 --> 00:05:50.920 to help them be found. It's more like, here's a truth. It's 81 00:05:50.920 --> 00:05:54.120 a bit of a harsh one. It's a bit of a cold, hard 82 00:05:54.160 --> 00:05:59.160 slap in the face butt. Most spiritual people will agree with us if we 83 00:05:59.199 --> 00:06:02.920 say, listen, the world that we live in is highly infiltrated in the 84 00:06:02.959 --> 00:06:08.360 sense that we can see the corruption in our governments. We can see that 85 00:06:08.399 --> 00:06:13.319 there's corruption in our monetary systems. We can see all of the external systems 86 00:06:13.360 --> 00:06:18.120 and how they've been manipulated to keep humanity enslaved. But we fail to see 87 00:06:18.160 --> 00:06:21.879 the same thing happening in the spiritual community because we don't want to. We 88 00:06:21.920 --> 00:06:26.720 can't imagine, because then we've got to ask the question, oh, what 89 00:06:26.839 --> 00:06:31.600 am I partaking in? That's actually not of service to my spiritual growth? 90 00:06:32.040 --> 00:06:36.399 Right, So I'm going to ask the question because it brings up that that 91 00:06:36.639 --> 00:06:40.279 has a lot of triggering effects. What you just said to a lot of 92 00:06:40.279 --> 00:06:44.399 people are listening to the show right now? Is there anything wrong with being 93 00:06:44.560 --> 00:06:49.759 just like, hey, right? I mean yeah, but like I would 94 00:06:49.839 --> 00:06:53.000 love if you gave me a choice and you said, Carrie, would you 95 00:06:53.120 --> 00:06:58.439 rather be surrounded by a thousand corporate bankers or a thousand tree huggin hippies. 96 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:01.319 I believe me, I'm going to be best friends with the tree huggin hippies. 97 00:07:01.480 --> 00:07:06.160 And not to say there's anything wrong with corporate you know, anything, 98 00:07:06.240 --> 00:07:11.800 but I understand you. But this is the thing, Like, if you 99 00:07:11.839 --> 00:07:15.920 look at where our mindsets are, our mindsets are very much in the like 100 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:18.040 the what is wrong and the what is right, and the who is good 101 00:07:18.279 --> 00:07:24.800 and the who is bad? Instead of however the heck you're going to do 102 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:30.319 life, it's perfect for you. There's no one size fits all. There's 103 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:33.519 no prescription that says this is how you've got to do it. If you 104 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:36.720 want to be spiritual, some of the most spiritual people I know are in 105 00:07:36.759 --> 00:07:41.759 the banking industry right, which is awesome, by the way, because I've 106 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:46.040 always said there's too many light workers who are preaching to the converted masses, 107 00:07:46.079 --> 00:07:50.480 and they should be out there in the corporate world where we actually need them 108 00:07:50.519 --> 00:07:57.439 to be. But nonetheless, the way to do spirituality is through authenticity. 109 00:07:57.959 --> 00:08:01.480 That's the key. That's the key, that's so many people. It's so 110 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:05.399 obvious, and it's so simple but so overlooked. The more real you can 111 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:13.319 be, the more automatically higher frequency you are authenticity people that are it's all 112 00:08:13.360 --> 00:08:16.560 about love. Yes, love is important, but you don't get to access 113 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:22.000 authentic love until you can be with yourself in authenticity. So whether you're the 114 00:08:22.360 --> 00:08:26.040 tree hugging hippie or whether you're the banker, it truly is irrelevant. It's 115 00:08:26.079 --> 00:08:33.799 more how deeply real, habrave, how courageous will you be to allow yourself 116 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:37.200 to be exactly where you are, to experience yourself, not the world, 117 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:46.879 but you as you are, without distractions. So yes, yes to all 118 00:08:46.919 --> 00:08:52.279 of that. Authenticity is the is. The number is absolutely essential. And 119 00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:56.440 that makes me feel a lot better about what you're saying, because whether if 120 00:08:56.480 --> 00:09:03.519 you are authentically unicorns and butterflies, then then that works for you. Cool. 121 00:09:03.879 --> 00:09:07.320 But then you also mentioned I mentioned it in the intro, and I 122 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:11.720 found that on your website that you feel that these types of thought processes are 123 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:18.919 actually preventing us. Something has infiltrated this community and it's preventing us from ascending. 124 00:09:20.639 --> 00:09:28.600 So how can we justify a wreck or how can we wrap our minds 125 00:09:28.639 --> 00:09:33.480 around both of those thought processes? Right? Well, authenticity is the key 126 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:37.279 again, because, like you just said, if you are authentically rainbows and 127 00:09:37.360 --> 00:09:39.159 unicorns, I got to tell you my daughter. She's eight years old and 128 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:43.960 she is so damn authentically rainbows and unicorns. Nothing, nothing in this world 129 00:09:45.000 --> 00:09:48.480 is going to make her anything otherwise. That's who she is right now. 130 00:09:48.679 --> 00:09:52.639 Yeah, it's probably going to change, but it's cool. It's authentically who 131 00:09:52.759 --> 00:09:56.080 and where she is. Let's take my son. He's seventeen and he is 132 00:09:56.200 --> 00:10:01.000 all about facts and figures, and for God's sake, is in to geopolitics. 133 00:10:01.039 --> 00:10:03.240 I don't even know how that happened. Is he really my son? 134 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:13.879 Apparently he is, but I think I need to rule something out. The 135 00:10:13.000 --> 00:10:20.200 crazy thing is this is who they are authentically as people. They're not going, 136 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:22.039 hey mom, what do I have to do to be approved of? 137 00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:28.399 What does the world need me to look like? And that's how you reconcile 138 00:10:28.480 --> 00:10:31.720 everything it's not about. And if you look at spirituality, they've made it 139 00:10:31.919 --> 00:10:37.480 about a spiritual genre that there's a certain way of dressing. There's a certain 140 00:10:37.480 --> 00:10:41.840 way of eating, there's a certain way of speaking, there's certain mantras, 141 00:10:41.879 --> 00:10:48.879 there's certain protocols that are very much geared towards how perfect can you be instead 142 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:52.440 of how real can you be. There's a lot of spiritual people and I 143 00:10:52.519 --> 00:10:56.360 deal with them every day and they say to me, Kerry, I'm too 144 00:10:56.399 --> 00:11:01.919 afraid to get angry. I'm too scared because what if it lowers my frequency? 145 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:07.559 What if I become a really bad person because I feel really bad things? 146 00:11:07.039 --> 00:11:11.240 And that's where my battle with the spiritual community has been. It's not 147 00:11:11.279 --> 00:11:16.399 about what you're doing in your own personal private life that really resonates with you, 148 00:11:16.480 --> 00:11:20.799 go do that more. It's more about can you let go of an 149 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:26.799 ideal that says you've got to be ideal and can you exchange that insteadful I've 150 00:11:26.840 --> 00:11:31.440 actually got to be me and sometimes that means I'm not going to be okay, 151 00:11:33.240 --> 00:11:35.759 and I've got to have the courage to be there anyway. Got it? 152 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:39.440 Got it? That makes a heck of a lot of sense to me. 153 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:43.679 So it's all about authenticity and feeling you emotion because we're all human, 154 00:11:45.039 --> 00:11:48.240 right or right, we're spiratu in a human experience or whatever it is. 155 00:11:48.600 --> 00:11:52.759 So we're going to have moments of they're going to trigger us, and those 156 00:11:52.799 --> 00:11:54.159 are the moments that are going to help us to grow. So if you 157 00:11:54.200 --> 00:12:00.600 don't have those, then it's difficult to grow because I know, when triggered, 158 00:12:00.840 --> 00:12:03.279 my first thought is, Okay, what made this trigger me? What 159 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:07.360 is it inside me that this touch that made uncomfortable? And I'm able to 160 00:12:07.360 --> 00:12:11.200 process it and figure out what I need to learn from it and move forward, 161 00:12:11.200 --> 00:12:13.120 and eventually, next time it happens, it won't trigger me as much. 162 00:12:15.240 --> 00:12:18.919 Exactly. So, when you're talking to someone and they tell you, 163 00:12:18.720 --> 00:12:22.399 you know, I'm afraid to get angry or to lower my vibrations, what 164 00:12:22.440 --> 00:12:26.039 do you say to them to help them through that, to help them understand 165 00:12:26.039 --> 00:12:30.360 that that's partly where they need to be. Okay, now I'm gonna make 166 00:12:30.360 --> 00:12:31.600 you laugh and you're gonna go, oh, geez, who have we actually 167 00:12:31.639 --> 00:12:39.320 invited on our show? Because my answer to that is tough. Honestly. 168 00:12:39.759 --> 00:12:43.200 You know, on my website, what you're going to see is Carrie K. 169 00:12:43.320 --> 00:12:48.120 Because that's my name, and underneath it straight talking spirituality. Because if 170 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:50.159 I were to just give you straight talk and you say to me, but 171 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:54.320 I'm afraid of feeling anger, but I'm afraid of lowering my vibrational frequency. 172 00:12:54.360 --> 00:12:56.799 My answer to you is going to be tough luck, baby, because do 173 00:12:56.799 --> 00:13:01.159 you know what. You're not here to be perfect, You're here to be 174 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:05.360 authentic. You're here to be real, and it's gonna it's gonna feel uncomfortable 175 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:11.120 and you must be prepared for that. Too many people have the mindset that 176 00:13:11.320 --> 00:13:16.360 spiritual means perfect instead of spiritual means authentic. So you've got to delve in 177 00:13:16.399 --> 00:13:22.720 the realm that society, not just the spiritual community. Society told us this 178 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:26.759 is no man's land. Don't go there, Angels fear to tread, don't 179 00:13:26.799 --> 00:13:31.559 go there, and it's not safe. And who knows if those emotions aren't 180 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:35.600 actually bigger than you? When the truth is, we will always think how 181 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:39.879 emotions are bigger than us until we know how magnificent we are. And the 182 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:46.559 goal of true spirituality is to get out of the specialness and into the magnificence. 183 00:13:46.600 --> 00:13:50.840 And I'll tell you what I mean by that. There's a lot of 184 00:13:50.919 --> 00:13:54.399 people that believe that there are better than That's what I call specialness. Special 185 00:13:54.519 --> 00:14:01.399 is like the people who they're gonna walk around believing that they're somehow a pureer 186 00:14:01.639 --> 00:14:05.960 version of human because they never get angry, for example, Right, well, 187 00:14:05.000 --> 00:14:09.120 they never feel depressed or whatever the case might be. That's specialness. 188 00:14:09.360 --> 00:14:15.600 But magnificence is only about a million times more special, more magnificent, more 189 00:14:15.679 --> 00:14:22.159 beautiful than you would ever dare to imagine. But you've got to go through 190 00:14:22.200 --> 00:14:26.080 the minefield of your own fears before you get to walk there, before you 191 00:14:26.120 --> 00:14:30.039 get to see the magnificence. You've got to have your tough luck moment. 192 00:14:30.440 --> 00:14:33.919 You got to face oh my god, I do actually feel these things. 193 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:37.360 You've got to face them to dissipate them, to move beyond them. Right, 194 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:41.399 And do you find that a lot of people that you work with feel 195 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:45.519 like they don't deserve that magnificence? Because oh, yes, so so much 196 00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:48.200 of what we're taught about ourselves is you know, you have to work harder, 197 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:50.960 you have to be better. You don't deserve this. Yeah, I 198 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:56.120 don't have as I it's special I am. I mean not to brag, 199 00:14:56.120 --> 00:15:03.519 but I might be one of those best better than now I see, Yes, 200 00:15:03.879 --> 00:15:07.879 and you thought you were worried about us. I have to get through 201 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:16.639 good you it's it's obviously it's all in fun. But that's that is a 202 00:15:16.639 --> 00:15:22.639 great question. Yeah. So there's a huge stumbling block that I see people 203 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:28.600 having, and Karen, what you've asked just touches on that because they're so 204 00:15:28.840 --> 00:15:33.679 conditioned to believe that they've got to I want to use this word repent. 205 00:15:33.360 --> 00:15:37.879 In other words, they've got to go into all the pain and and and 206 00:15:37.080 --> 00:15:39.960 here I am telling you, yes, you've got to go through the pain. 207 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:46.000 But the optial word there is through through, as in pass it and 208 00:15:46.039 --> 00:15:48.879 go out the other side. What a lot of people in spiritual community and 209 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:54.320 the self help community, the personal growth community, what they're doing is they're 210 00:15:54.360 --> 00:16:00.799 delving into the trauma and sitting down inside the trauma and using that as identity 211 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:06.279 because they believe that's what they're worthy of. They believe that they've got to 212 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:11.159 hold that density when that is not what we're here for at all. In 213 00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:17.399 fact, sometimes it's harder for people to embrace their light and easier for people 214 00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:21.960 to embrace their darkness because they're conditioned to believe, yes I am bad, 215 00:16:22.080 --> 00:16:26.200 Yes I am unworthy, Yes I am a terrible person. Whatever their beliefs 216 00:16:26.240 --> 00:16:32.080 are. They find it more believable, which is terrible and tragic, but 217 00:16:32.120 --> 00:16:37.960 they find it more believable to believe the worst in themselves than to imagine this 218 00:16:37.039 --> 00:16:44.279 divine magnificence. So based on that, what do you believe about the concept 219 00:16:44.320 --> 00:16:47.879 of karma? Because so many people think they're here to work through karma from 220 00:16:47.960 --> 00:16:51.919 past lives and it's going to be hard, and you know whatever. I 221 00:16:51.960 --> 00:16:53.440 have a different belief on that, But but what do you believe about that? 222 00:16:53.639 --> 00:17:03.399 I think karma is a heap of bs. I really do you know? 223 00:17:03.160 --> 00:17:11.400 It's part of the rim right about triggering people. See when you're straight 224 00:17:11.440 --> 00:17:15.480 talking like I am, I just I don't have the filter to hold myself 225 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:19.039 back to think, Okay, Carrie, how are other people going to receive 226 00:17:19.119 --> 00:17:22.880 you? I'm just gonna blurt it out because that's the truth of what I 227 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:26.319 know to be true, and that is that karma is a program of the 228 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:32.400 false matrix, and it's rooted in the concept of suffering. It's rooted in 229 00:17:32.440 --> 00:17:37.960 the concept of pain and perpetua will drawn out suffering. Whereas the natural universal 230 00:17:38.160 --> 00:17:45.319 law which exists around consequence is something that we haven't rarely experienced on this planet. 231 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:48.440 We have known and that's very much part of the old false matrix. 232 00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:52.799 We've known that suffering program, and karma is a part of that. I 233 00:17:52.799 --> 00:17:56.920 mean, imagine that I or my children even should be held responsible for the 234 00:17:56.960 --> 00:18:03.720 so called sins of their fathers, Like this is part of the reincarnation cycle 235 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:07.440 that you're just gonna land up with more baggage. The more lives you have, 236 00:18:07.480 --> 00:18:10.359 the more baggage you're going to accumulate, the less likely it is that 237 00:18:10.400 --> 00:18:14.160 you're ever gonna evolve. That was the point in the purpose of karma was 238 00:18:14.200 --> 00:18:18.799 to prevent people from ascending. But having said that, there is one hundred 239 00:18:18.839 --> 00:18:25.920 percent a consequence, universal consequence, and that says whatever I've put out, 240 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:30.359 I am going to receive back. But this is where it gets nuanced. 241 00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:34.079 We weren't living in the natural organic universe, so the natural organic rules didn't 242 00:18:34.119 --> 00:18:37.640 apply to us. We lived in a place called the false matrix, so 243 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:42.079 the false rules applied to us. And that's why we believed in karma, 244 00:18:42.240 --> 00:18:47.599 because it was the program that we were born to. But is it universal 245 00:18:47.640 --> 00:18:49.160 truth? Is it pure cosmic truth? No, not at all. And 246 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:52.920 we're in a transitional phase right now where we are transitting out of the false 247 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:57.960 matrix back into the organic universe that we come from, which means for the 248 00:18:59.000 --> 00:19:04.319 first time, who are now tasting consequence and consequences. I can get away 249 00:19:04.359 --> 00:19:10.799 with stuff, but I might still experience upheaval within myself. Right so law 250 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:14.359 of cause and effect, I totally understand that. First, you are speaking 251 00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:18.440 directly into Karen's soul right now, so you have made an absolute best friend 252 00:19:18.440 --> 00:19:22.039 because you guys are very aligned with that. But you bring up a very 253 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:26.720 intriguing point that I mean, I've been wanting to ask you from the very 254 00:19:26.839 --> 00:19:29.880 first question I asked you, but we went down this other rabbit hole. 255 00:19:29.920 --> 00:19:36.759 So I need to let's level set. What the heck is this false matrix 256 00:19:36.799 --> 00:19:40.799 that you're talking about. Like the world we're living in, like we see 257 00:19:41.000 --> 00:19:44.119 the physical, the things we feel, touch, tastes. Are you seeing 258 00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:48.119 that that doesn't exist? What is a false matrix? It does exist. 259 00:19:48.200 --> 00:19:52.880 It's incredibly real. Nobody can tell you the pain, suffering, trauma, 260 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:56.200 torment that you've gone through doesn't exist, because you know it does. It 261 00:19:56.240 --> 00:19:59.559 lives inside of you. You taste your food, of course, it's real. 262 00:20:00.880 --> 00:20:07.519 What the false matrix is is a mimicry system. So to understand the 263 00:20:07.599 --> 00:20:10.960 false matrix. We've got to understand who created the false matrix. So now 264 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:15.799 I'm going to take you into an assumed out big picture perspective. At the 265 00:20:15.799 --> 00:20:21.960 point of original creation, we have God, who is the supreme creator of 266 00:20:22.000 --> 00:20:26.000 all that is, and God assigned certain we could call it, for want 267 00:20:26.000 --> 00:20:30.279 of simplifying it, certain roles. So for example, some people took the 268 00:20:30.359 --> 00:20:34.279 role of light. Other people took the role of darkness. The group of 269 00:20:34.359 --> 00:20:37.240 beings who took the role of darkness, they now have a name. We 270 00:20:37.319 --> 00:20:41.319 know them as arcons. The arcons took the role of darkness for a very 271 00:20:41.319 --> 00:20:47.880 important reason, and that was to catalyze light, because ultimately light and dark 272 00:20:47.960 --> 00:20:52.680 are one thing. In order to facilitate creation, they had to separate. 273 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:56.359 So now we had a faction of people holding light, a faction of people 274 00:20:56.359 --> 00:21:02.839 holding darkness. And those who held darkness became addicted to the power, or 275 00:21:02.920 --> 00:21:07.240 rather, I should say to the illusion of power that their darkness gave them. 276 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:11.839 These beings became so corrupted and so depraved. It's kind of this is 277 00:21:11.880 --> 00:21:15.200 this is a very strange metaphor that I'm going to give you, but it's 278 00:21:15.240 --> 00:21:19.160 kind of like a politician who's been bribed by millions or billions of dollars and 279 00:21:19.200 --> 00:21:22.720 now telling them, listen, that's been fun, but now you get to 280 00:21:22.720 --> 00:21:26.640 go and live like everyone else. And the politician says, uh, no, 281 00:21:26.799 --> 00:21:32.559 thank you. I like my millions and billions. I like being powerful. 282 00:21:33.000 --> 00:21:36.200 This is what happened to the arcons. They didn't want to reintegrate, 283 00:21:36.799 --> 00:21:42.319 so they became very defensive of their separation, and they began to push God 284 00:21:42.480 --> 00:21:47.960 away. They began to see themselves as superior to the very thing that had 285 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:52.119 created them. This is a psychopathy, this is a depravity that we'd actually 286 00:21:52.160 --> 00:22:00.799 see in humanity today because these arcons realized, Okay, we don't want to 287 00:22:00.799 --> 00:22:03.440 be God, we want to be better than God. But the moment we 288 00:22:03.599 --> 00:22:08.880 push God away, we lose our ability to create, because now we're disowning 289 00:22:10.400 --> 00:22:15.559 a part of ourselves. So when they lost their ability to create, they 290 00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:19.200 said, not a problem. We will bring a group of beings into a 291 00:22:19.359 --> 00:22:25.599 planet which will hijack out of the organic matrix. We'll call that the false 292 00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:30.400 matrix, and we'll get those human beings to do our bidding. We'll get 293 00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:33.160 them to create on our behalf. They won't know it because if you know 294 00:22:33.160 --> 00:22:36.240 you're in prison, You're going to try and break out, right, So 295 00:22:36.279 --> 00:22:38.880 they will never know that they're in prison. It'll be a mental prison, 296 00:22:38.960 --> 00:22:44.759 so they won't see the bars. But what they'll have access to is a 297 00:22:44.920 --> 00:22:52.400 very restricted bandwidth of energy that's going to prevent them from accessing their soul and 298 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:56.839 the memory of who they are. They're going to be very fight flight responsive, 299 00:22:57.119 --> 00:23:02.000 they are going to be very easily triggered. They're going to chase their 300 00:23:02.079 --> 00:23:06.079 own tail. They're going to argue with each other and never look up to 301 00:23:06.279 --> 00:23:10.799 see who the original ones were that put them in the soup in the first 302 00:23:10.839 --> 00:23:14.319 place. They're just going to keep blaming each other for it. So this 303 00:23:14.359 --> 00:23:18.200 is how the false matrix came to be. It's a mimic of what the 304 00:23:18.279 --> 00:23:25.680 organic universe could should look like, but it's a very manipulated version of the 305 00:23:25.759 --> 00:23:30.480 organic matrix, and it's highly programmed. It's a barrage and almost an onslaught 306 00:23:30.720 --> 00:23:37.480 of very negative, very low density frequencies that we keep absorbing generation after generation 307 00:23:38.359 --> 00:23:44.039 until we find ourselves here scratching our heads going what the hell is the meaning 308 00:23:44.039 --> 00:23:47.400 of life? Why am I here? What is this all about? That's 309 00:23:47.559 --> 00:23:53.440 my nutshell version of what the false matrix is. Wow, for a nutshell 310 00:23:53.480 --> 00:23:59.839 that had a lot of actual nut in it in a good way. We 311 00:24:00.279 --> 00:24:04.839 are who so much to dive into there. We need to take a break. 312 00:24:06.240 --> 00:24:10.440 Cool, but when we come back, we are going to dive further 313 00:24:10.519 --> 00:24:12.880 into that, and we're going to talk about how do you know this? 314 00:24:14.319 --> 00:24:18.359 It wouldn't be discussing menephysicians without asking you how the heck do you know this? 315 00:24:18.440 --> 00:24:19.960 So when we come back, we'll dive into that. Don't go away, 316 00:24:21.039 --> 00:24:37.079 We'll be right back. Hey there, we got another five star review 317 00:24:37.079 --> 00:24:41.720 to share with you. This one's from Tabby in the House via Apple Podcasts. 318 00:24:42.319 --> 00:24:48.680 The topic is great topics on spiritual stuff, and Tabby in the House 319 00:24:48.000 --> 00:24:53.960 continues on and says, these guys are real earnest spiritual seekers without being super 320 00:24:55.400 --> 00:24:59.319 wearing every spiritual thing on their shirt sleeve. 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And right before the break, Carrie just she went down 336 00:26:03.559 --> 00:26:07.359 this. I mean, we keep seeing the word rabbit hole, but that's 337 00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:11.160 really the only thing that fits into this right because it is such a deep 338 00:26:11.279 --> 00:26:15.359 conversation that and we can go into so many different areas of it. If 339 00:26:15.359 --> 00:26:19.319 you're just joining us, rewind this thing and listen to Carrie's message again right 340 00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:22.920 before the break, because this is where we're going to be diving into here 341 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:26.839 now, because you went you said a lot right before the break, you 342 00:26:26.880 --> 00:26:33.079 said a lot, and it was a lot of stuff that it is some 343 00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:36.839 it's sometimes it's kind of a little difficult to believe, to lack of a 344 00:26:36.880 --> 00:26:41.480 better word. But at the same time, we've heard these messages again and 345 00:26:41.519 --> 00:26:44.720 again and again, and I don't think we've ever asked the question, how 346 00:26:44.720 --> 00:26:48.319 do we know, Like, where did you get these messages that make you 347 00:26:48.400 --> 00:26:52.160 so sure that this is indeed a false matrix? Because I died and I 348 00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:56.400 came back and I saw it when I was really young, Well, I 349 00:26:56.480 --> 00:27:00.240 was incredibly ill, and I didn't realize it at the time, but being 350 00:27:00.319 --> 00:27:03.680 so sick for so long was the best thing that could ever happen to me, 351 00:27:03.880 --> 00:27:07.759 because it gave me an open door outside of the false matrix. Now, 352 00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:12.039 to give you an idea, I spent most of my childhood in hospital. 353 00:27:12.119 --> 00:27:15.160 Quite literally, I spent more time in hospital than I ever did at 354 00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:19.519 home. And that was until I was around about a teenager. So in 355 00:27:19.599 --> 00:27:26.519 that time of serious illness, I was very often on the brink of life 356 00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:32.680 and death and just there on the brink, I got this magnificent experience. 357 00:27:32.680 --> 00:27:34.960 Now some people will call this an nd right, a near death experience, 358 00:27:36.039 --> 00:27:38.559 but to me, this is something much bigger than a death experience. This 359 00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:42.839 is a life experience. It was a near life experience. I got to 360 00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:49.880 go back to the supreme mind and heart that we all come from. So 361 00:27:49.960 --> 00:27:52.920 some would call this God, but the truth is, when you're there, 362 00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:59.960 it's so much bigger than God. It's like this infinite oneness and you get 363 00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:04.079 plugged into You're not separate from it. You don't experience yourself as a human 364 00:28:04.079 --> 00:28:11.400 being or even a separate identity. You experience yourself as part of the whole. 365 00:28:11.680 --> 00:28:15.559 And when you're inside the heart and mind of that wholeness, there are 366 00:28:15.559 --> 00:28:22.519 no questions because you're plugged directly into all that is, so you know everything 367 00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:27.039 in the time that you're there. And then I would get better, and 368 00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:30.640 I would come home from hospital, and I would be normal and go to 369 00:28:30.680 --> 00:28:34.599 school and be a human being, and then get sick again and go back 370 00:28:34.640 --> 00:28:37.920 to God, and go back home and go back to God. And so 371 00:28:37.119 --> 00:28:41.279 this is where I spend my childhood, backwards and forwards between the false matrix 372 00:28:41.519 --> 00:28:47.640 and the organic universe. So wow, that's how I know what I know 373 00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:52.279 because I've been there and I've seen it, and it's once you see it, 374 00:28:52.279 --> 00:28:56.839 it's so freaking obvious that you think, how did number one? How 375 00:28:56.839 --> 00:29:00.440 did I not see it before? And number two? How do people walk 376 00:29:00.519 --> 00:29:07.759 around believing that this false matrix reality is all that there is when just a 377 00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:15.799 taste of true, unconditional God's love is enough to transform an entire civilization for 378 00:29:15.839 --> 00:29:22.279 all eternity. It is the most potent, moving, powerful, indescribable life 379 00:29:22.279 --> 00:29:25.920 force that ever there is, and when you're touched by it, you will 380 00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:27.680 never be this. You can never be the same again. You can't think 381 00:29:27.720 --> 00:29:33.279 the same, you can't feel the same. Everything is forever changed. And 382 00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:37.400 that's how I know what I know. You must be incredibly frustrated walking around 383 00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:41.240 all these people who are blind to the realities of things, and you just 384 00:29:41.279 --> 00:29:45.279 have want to scream, wake up. It's like the whole Matrix movie all 385 00:29:45.279 --> 00:29:48.880 over. I was going to ask, how did you cope with that as 386 00:29:48.920 --> 00:29:56.119 a child? Yeah? Information is two realities that you know has how did 387 00:29:56.119 --> 00:30:00.640 you handle that? In two ways? The first is to learned to say 388 00:30:00.680 --> 00:30:03.200 the word okay, like, for example, even today people will say to 389 00:30:03.240 --> 00:30:07.640 me, oh, do you know that, for example, do you know 390 00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:11.119 that karma is a real thing? And this is why karma matters? And 391 00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:15.480 da da da da dah, And I just got okay, okay, okay. 392 00:30:15.559 --> 00:30:18.319 Has saved me and my mental health and my sanity so much because I 393 00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:22.680 don't debate and I don't argue. I share my truth. And when people 394 00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:26.039 are resonans and they pick it up, then that's perfect. And when they're 395 00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:30.440 not, then that's equally perfect. So number one, I just go okay. 396 00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:33.799 But number two, when I was a child, there was a built 397 00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:40.920 in saving grace there, and that is that I never integrated everything that I 398 00:30:41.000 --> 00:30:45.640 experienced at the god level into the human carry Until I was an adult. 399 00:30:45.839 --> 00:30:52.200 I only integrated pieces and parts. And over time, it's kind of like 400 00:30:52.559 --> 00:30:59.359 sitting and stewing in this amazing cosmic soup. Over time it began to integrate 401 00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:03.079 an embody more and more and more, and then I remembered more and more 402 00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:04.279 and more, and I felt more and more and more. So I got 403 00:31:04.319 --> 00:31:08.279 snippets when I was a child, but not the full pieces of information. 404 00:31:10.279 --> 00:31:21.599 The flavor didn't develop until later. Nicely said, all right, so okay, 405 00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:30.720 you mentioned that we are now leaving this false matrix and moving into an 406 00:31:30.799 --> 00:31:37.319 organic environment, I guess for black of a better word. Yeah, And 407 00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:41.279 yet it feels like what you're talking about when you had your near life experience, 408 00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:48.519 that the organic world in which you're talking about is where we go after 409 00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:53.640 our physical bodies pass. Is that correct? Not necessarily, because depending on 410 00:31:53.680 --> 00:31:57.400 your level of consciousness you're going to go when you pass, you're going to 411 00:31:57.480 --> 00:32:01.599 go to where your level of consciousness can be accommodated, in other words, 412 00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:07.279 what's familiar to you. So if that full flavor is not palatable to you 413 00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:10.680 because you're not yet ready for that much love, because let me tell you, 414 00:32:12.119 --> 00:32:15.839 being in the presence of that much love, it feels like you're going 415 00:32:15.880 --> 00:32:21.920 to evaporate into it. It feels like it's so big that nothing and no 416 00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:25.799 part of you will even survive afterwards. It's like it's going to integrate you 417 00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:34.160 into itself because it's so omnipotent and so profound. So there are people who 418 00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:38.799 aren't calibrated to be in that frequency for whatever reason that I can't tell you, 419 00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:44.799 because I literally don't know I was ready or able to be there. 420 00:32:45.880 --> 00:32:51.279 Most people when they pass though they're going to go to a familiar frequency. 421 00:32:51.920 --> 00:32:54.880 Most of the time, it's a little bit higher, it's a higher octave 422 00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:59.759 than what they've got here on Earth. But it's not necessarily to go back 423 00:32:59.759 --> 00:33:05.880 home truth unless they're ready, they're willing, they're willing, they're capable to 424 00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:10.440 be in the presence of that much love. Mm So then if we're transitioning 425 00:33:10.480 --> 00:33:15.599 into that organic world now, yeah, what about those that aren't ready? 426 00:33:16.160 --> 00:33:22.000 If we're going there now anyway without passing? Yea, what's going to happen 427 00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:24.519 to those that aren't ready? And I speak and I ask, I'm asking 428 00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:30.000 for a friend. I know your friend, Well, I think I might. 429 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:36.640 He's a very very popular friend. Yes, a lot of people friends 430 00:33:36.640 --> 00:33:40.279 with this guy. Yeah, yeah, oh yeah. So we have something 431 00:33:40.319 --> 00:33:45.240 taking place right now called the two world split. And what that's about is 432 00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:52.200 where a faction of our existing population is ready and can accommodate five D, 433 00:33:53.079 --> 00:33:58.319 which is a much higher level of reality than the one that we're on right 434 00:33:58.359 --> 00:34:00.519 now. But they will be a group of people who say, listen, 435 00:34:00.640 --> 00:34:05.640 I'm not done playing. I'm just not there yet. So I want to 436 00:34:05.680 --> 00:34:08.480 go off. I'm going to end this life, and I want to go 437 00:34:08.519 --> 00:34:13.920 off into another four D world, because it's still a level up from where 438 00:34:13.920 --> 00:34:16.199 we are. This is a three D world. So the two world split 439 00:34:16.320 --> 00:34:20.320 is one of two roads. It's either a five D world, which is 440 00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:24.679 this planet but a higher version, or it is an exit point where you 441 00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:30.119 completely exit your life, completely exit the body and the planet, and move 442 00:34:30.159 --> 00:34:34.679 off into an entirely new incarnation in four D. That's not going to be 443 00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:37.639 the majority. I don't know how. Honestly, I don't know how, 444 00:34:37.960 --> 00:34:43.280 but most people are going to ascend into five D. I say that lovingly 445 00:34:43.320 --> 00:34:46.599 because I've seen it, and that's why I can tell you. I know 446 00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:52.280 that it's true. I myself can't comprehend how that friend, that mutual friend 447 00:34:52.320 --> 00:34:58.119 of ours. Sure, I can't imagine how that person's going to accommodate five 448 00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:02.000 D. But apparently they can, and apparently they do. And at the 449 00:35:02.079 --> 00:35:06.320 last minute, we're going to see a lot of people waking up. At 450 00:35:06.320 --> 00:35:08.480 the very very last minute, We're going to see a lot of people suddenly 451 00:35:08.760 --> 00:35:12.920 having the light switched on for them. And part of the reason for that 452 00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:17.760 is because we're going to have so many people on planet Earth holding and anchoring 453 00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:24.440 in five D consciousness before that final ascension point. And the final ascension point 454 00:35:24.480 --> 00:35:30.199 is the final separation point between the two realities or the two worlds that are 455 00:35:30.280 --> 00:35:36.119 brewing right now in our timeline. So we've got one single timeline, but 456 00:35:36.239 --> 00:35:39.920 two streams of consciousness in the timeline. One moves to five D, one 457 00:35:39.960 --> 00:35:45.559 moves to four D. But the gorgeous part of that is nobody retraces back 458 00:35:45.760 --> 00:35:51.480 and goes to three D. We are, in other words, all elevating. 459 00:35:51.599 --> 00:35:55.320 It's just how high we elevate too. So what's the timeline? How 460 00:35:55.360 --> 00:36:01.199 much time I got? I mean we got four Yes, this is the 461 00:36:01.280 --> 00:36:05.480 question. You know, people always ask, like, so when when is 462 00:36:05.519 --> 00:36:09.840 it going to happen? I mean, I need well pack light because you're 463 00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:14.800 not going to need much where we're going. So the cool thing is that 464 00:36:15.119 --> 00:36:19.880 there is no time, and there's never meant to be a time prediction. 465 00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:25.199 And if somebody gives you a time prediction, run away, because the truth 466 00:36:25.239 --> 00:36:29.519 about ascension is that it's never going to come at the right moment. It's 467 00:36:29.559 --> 00:36:31.679 kind of like, I know, not everyone's going to relate to this analogy, 468 00:36:31.719 --> 00:36:34.599 but I'm a mom of three, so I can. So I'm going 469 00:36:34.639 --> 00:36:37.280 to tell you this analogy. It's like when people said, when are you 470 00:36:37.320 --> 00:36:38.559 going to give birth? I knew it was never going to be at the 471 00:36:38.599 --> 00:36:40.840 right time for me. It was just going to be the right time, 472 00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:45.360 but it was just three o'clock in the morning. Was certainly not my right 473 00:36:45.440 --> 00:36:47.639 time, but that was the right time for my children. So assensions the 474 00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:52.639 same thing. We can have an idea. We can have an idea that 475 00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:57.960 it's going to probably listen to that word probably take place anywhere between now in 476 00:36:58.000 --> 00:37:02.159 the next ten years, which might sound like a very big landscape of time. 477 00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:07.400 However, we've been doing this for millions of years, so we are 478 00:37:07.559 --> 00:37:12.039 right here at the eye of the needle. We are right focusing in on 479 00:37:12.679 --> 00:37:16.519 that final ascension point. But imagine if people knew the day and time, 480 00:37:16.559 --> 00:37:21.639 what would they do? They'd stop growing, that's start waiting, that going 481 00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:24.679 to limbo, that probably go a little bit insane, start spending their money 482 00:37:24.679 --> 00:37:30.679 and doing their credit cards. I mean, not a bad plan, isn't 483 00:37:30.920 --> 00:37:36.559 line, It really isn't. When we've been doing this for millions of years. 484 00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:42.079 Ten years is literally that's like saying now. Yeah, that is like 485 00:37:42.159 --> 00:37:45.719 saying now, ten years is non love everything and eag to write down. 486 00:37:45.760 --> 00:37:47.360 I'm like, oh, she'll be twenty three, i'llkay get it. Oh 487 00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:54.239 my god, I'll be older than three. Older, yes, way older, 488 00:37:54.280 --> 00:37:59.800 but not by a whole lot. So so, then, what's going 489 00:37:59.840 --> 00:38:02.599 to stop the Arkans from arcans? Right? That's the term that you mentioned. 490 00:38:04.079 --> 00:38:07.000 What's going to stop them from doing everything they can, pulling out all 491 00:38:07.039 --> 00:38:12.719 the stops to prevent us from actually getting their ten years from now. That's 492 00:38:12.880 --> 00:38:17.159 exactly what we're seeing in front of us right now. That's what we're seeing 493 00:38:17.599 --> 00:38:22.400 their last ditch, desperate attempts to slow the whole thing down because they can 494 00:38:22.440 --> 00:38:27.960 see what's taking place. Say that the game, Karen, So I didn't 495 00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:32.239 mean to cut you off? Will they ascend to They're desperately trying not to. 496 00:38:34.280 --> 00:38:37.639 They don't want to see. They don't want to be regular people. 497 00:38:37.639 --> 00:38:44.840 They want to keep them millions and billions. It's like continuing to file an 498 00:38:44.840 --> 00:38:49.639 extension on your text. Yes, yes, but I was going to say 499 00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:54.320 constantly filing appeals to try to push off a trial or something like that. 500 00:38:55.079 --> 00:39:01.400 Yes, they keep filing for an extent and an appeal to make sure that 501 00:39:01.440 --> 00:39:08.519 we extend the period of time that we are still not ascending very interesting parallels. 502 00:39:09.440 --> 00:39:13.639 That's all that they've got. That those are the tools at their disposal, 503 00:39:13.719 --> 00:39:16.239 and they are using those tools of fear and chaos to the best of 504 00:39:16.239 --> 00:39:21.159 their ability. But eventually, when we have enough light workers on the planet 505 00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:24.440 or whatever people call themselves, spiritual warriors, stars, light worker, being 506 00:39:24.440 --> 00:39:29.079 of consciousness, doesn't matter what the name is. When we have enough people 507 00:39:29.159 --> 00:39:32.920 holding light, holding love, holding higher resonance in their body, we become 508 00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:39.639 very untouchable by that low frequency, and that low frequency begins to have less 509 00:39:39.639 --> 00:39:44.280 and less impact. That's what we're seeing already, and that's why we're seeing 510 00:39:44.360 --> 00:39:50.920 such a pushback from the arcons because they can see we're losing our matrix. 511 00:39:51.880 --> 00:39:57.760 So then the arcans are uncanny at convincing people that they're not actually arcans but 512 00:39:57.880 --> 00:40:00.639 rather angels. Right, So, what did you say to people that are 513 00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:07.519 completely hoodwinked by these No, No, we want to send folks but are 514 00:40:07.559 --> 00:40:10.639 convinced that they are on the opposite side, that they feel that they are 515 00:40:10.639 --> 00:40:16.599 the ones that are here to bring about change. Yeah, there is so 516 00:40:16.760 --> 00:40:21.440 many And this is where we started the conversation, really was talking about how 517 00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:25.320 within the spiritual community there is so much manipulation and misinformation. And now, 518 00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:30.360 given the scope of the conversation we've just shared, you can see why, 519 00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:35.440 of all sectors on planet Earth, spiritual community had to be the most infiltrated, 520 00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:38.719 because this is where the powerful people are. This is where the people 521 00:40:38.760 --> 00:40:44.079 who can truly become a ripple that changes the course of reality. This is 522 00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:49.280 where they're hanging out in the spiritual community. So what we have is a 523 00:40:49.320 --> 00:40:52.880 group of spiritual people who need to stop being hoodwinked. And the only way 524 00:40:52.920 --> 00:41:00.679 to stop being hoodwinked is to start accessing your authenticity. You will never trust 525 00:41:00.079 --> 00:41:05.239 the right person until you can trust yourself. In fact, you've got no 526 00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:09.239 businesses trusting anybody else until you learn to trust yourself. And that takes connection 527 00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:15.760 to self, That takes the getting real and getting into the nitty gritty. 528 00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:19.639 You know, there's so many people out there, and again this is a 529 00:41:19.639 --> 00:41:23.239 bit of a straight talking bombshell. There's so many people out there who channel 530 00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:28.119 archangels, for example, And I'm not saying they're all bad, and I'm 531 00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:30.519 not saying they're all wrong, but I am saying a lot of them lack 532 00:41:30.639 --> 00:41:36.400 discernment. And how many Archangel Michaels are there really, because according to all 533 00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:40.239 the people who are channeling Archangel Michael, they must be about ten million if 534 00:41:40.280 --> 00:41:45.400 we stop giving our power away to other people. So Archangel Michael, who 535 00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:47.559 I'm channeling, is going to tell me what's going to happen, and this 536 00:41:47.599 --> 00:41:50.960 one's going to tell me, and that one's going to tell me. And 537 00:41:51.119 --> 00:41:55.199 instead we start tuning into ourselves and realizing that, oh yeah, it's true, 538 00:41:55.199 --> 00:41:59.760 we are the ones that we were waiting for. Then we grow, 539 00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:06.920 we mature spiritually, and when that happens, we can start seeing reality clearly. 540 00:42:07.960 --> 00:42:10.599 Right now, too many people have got the blinkers on. The more 541 00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:15.000 you can see yourself clearly, the more you can see reality clearly. So 542 00:42:15.079 --> 00:42:21.880 the real work comes down to that same thing, authenticity. Mm hmm, 543 00:42:22.039 --> 00:42:28.320 yeah, that's that is the That is the key word. And uh, 544 00:42:28.480 --> 00:42:34.360 the difficult part is that so many people believe they're being authentic because they they 545 00:42:34.360 --> 00:42:39.159 are going down a certain path and perhaps in their minds they are being authentic. 546 00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:45.239 However, who discerns who the authenticity is the right one? I guess 547 00:42:45.239 --> 00:42:47.320 only you can tell. So that's that's where it gets money from. I 548 00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:51.639 think it has also be a bad acceptance, because you have to really accept 549 00:42:51.840 --> 00:42:53.079 who you are, the good, the bad, and the ugly to really 550 00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:57.800 truly be able to embrace your authenticity and just own no part of you, 551 00:42:58.280 --> 00:43:00.840 claim all parts of you. See then in all parts of you, and 552 00:43:01.000 --> 00:43:06.000 know that if your brain is telling you, oh, I'm authentic, if 553 00:43:06.039 --> 00:43:08.760 that's a message from your brain, it's not true because your brain is part 554 00:43:08.800 --> 00:43:14.400 of the imposter syndrome that we've all lived with here in the false matrix. 555 00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:21.159 The brain is entrained to lie to its own self. That's part of the 556 00:43:21.199 --> 00:43:23.719 prison of the false matrix that we were caught in. Whereas, if you 557 00:43:24.239 --> 00:43:30.079 feel authenticity, so you're not thinking the words, oh baby, I'm the 558 00:43:30.119 --> 00:43:32.119 most authentic person that ever there was, you're actually, I mean, unless 559 00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:36.199 you are, well, you know what I did. I did. I 560 00:43:36.280 --> 00:43:38.199 must be honest. I did forget that one person here on planet Earth, 561 00:43:38.320 --> 00:43:45.840 right right, right right, Let's not forget that import If you feel and 562 00:43:45.880 --> 00:43:50.800 it's kind of like, you know, there's a choking, vulnerable, raw 563 00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:54.039 feeling that you get when you are being so damn real with yourself. If 564 00:43:54.039 --> 00:43:58.559 you're there, it's not a thought, it's a feeling. And if you're 565 00:43:58.559 --> 00:44:02.519 in the feeling of authenticity that you're done, then you're authentic, you're in 566 00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:07.000 it, You're doing it. That's how simple it is. Just don't think 567 00:44:07.039 --> 00:44:10.519 it, be it right. Oh my god, I love talking about this 568 00:44:10.559 --> 00:44:16.159 stuff. This is like the time has flown by Carrie. This has been 569 00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:22.920 absolutely fascinating, and I mean it in every single way. I not once 570 00:44:22.960 --> 00:44:25.679 did I search for the questions I listed down. I just had a conversation 571 00:44:25.719 --> 00:44:30.599 with you, and that's the mark of a wonderful connection conversation. So thank 572 00:44:30.639 --> 00:44:36.039 you so much for coming and opening up our eyes about these kinds of things, 573 00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:42.199 because that is freaking amazing yet a whole lot to think about. And 574 00:44:42.239 --> 00:44:44.599 I know that this is not gonna be the only time we talked, because 575 00:44:44.599 --> 00:44:47.360 I know we've just scratched the surface. But if someone wanted to dive deeper 576 00:44:47.400 --> 00:44:51.039 into this stuff or reach out to you in any way, what's the best 577 00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:53.960 way for someone to do that? Beast way is my website kerriek dot com 578 00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:58.440 and it's k most Americans. I love you, guys, but my name 579 00:44:58.519 --> 00:45:00.360 is Krrie Worth a K. Not Carrie. You carry your bags, but 580 00:45:00.400 --> 00:45:05.360 that's not me. I'm Carrie K. E. R. R y Kkarriek 581 00:45:05.559 --> 00:45:07.679 dot com. All right, well, we're going to put that link directly 582 00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:10.000 in our show notes so that you don't have to worry about whether it's carry 583 00:45:10.079 --> 00:45:16.599 or carry. Just got a skepticm aposition dot com. You'll see her episode 584 00:45:17.000 --> 00:45:20.679 right there in the front page. Go to the show notes and you'll find 585 00:45:20.719 --> 00:45:22.559 the link directly laid in there, so it's easy for you to reach out 586 00:45:22.599 --> 00:45:28.320 to carry and I promise you you will not be disappointed. This has been 587 00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:30.320 wonderful. Carrie, thank you so much for coming on the show and opening 588 00:45:30.400 --> 00:45:35.840 up our eyes. Thanks you, guys, thank you, and a huge 589 00:45:35.840 --> 00:45:38.920 thank you to you. We know that there are tons of options out there, 590 00:45:39.079 --> 00:45:43.199 and having you decide to come along on our journey of discovery with us 591 00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:46.199 is an absolute honor for us. We'd love for you to contribute by sending 592 00:45:46.239 --> 00:45:50.480 us a voicemail or an email from our website, or leave us a review 593 00:45:50.480 --> 00:45:54.559 on Apple Podcasts or any other podcasting platform that supports them. 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