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let dot com. Hey, so
Brandan, it's great to have you on

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the show. And you know,
you kind of like a technical guy.

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You're looking at cycles, You're looking
at chart formations, things like that.

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What is your philosophy of making money
in the market. Well, my philosophy

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is really looking at these very advanced
technical analysis techniques, and I use a

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multi pronged approach. I looked at
time cycles to see where the cycle speaks

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and pros expected. Then I also
look at cycles price projections. I really

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want to see that time and price
fit together as entry or exit points.

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And I further verified that by using
Elliot wait theory analysis using different most likely

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counts for wave structures, and also
of course technical analysis, different technical indicators

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like CARRICI and macde etc. So
everything has to fit together because then it

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increases the probability of good entry and
exit enormously. All right, So invention

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cycles and a number of people follow
cycles out there, and I follow them

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myself. I'm a big believer in
them. But the hardest part is finding

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when the cycle begins and when it
ends. Sometimes you don't know the cycle

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happened until after it's over. Right. Well, it's possible to estimate cycles

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with certain accuracy. You could never
do them perfectly for various reasons. One

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reason is that they constantly vary over
time. You know the period of the

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cycle, and often amplitude vary over
time, perhaps influenced by larger or longer

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cycles from nature or whatever. So
Also, oftentimes cycles are not synchronous.

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In other words, cycles of different
periods are not synchrenous sometimes and death makes

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it harder to estimate what's going on. I use multiple cycle methods, going

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from traditional ones like psychoanalysis that are
I'm sure you're familiar with and centered moving

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averages, but I have developed a
very sophisticated method based on the state of

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the art and signal processing, so
called time frequency analysis using wavelets, and

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there I am able to estimate and
detect multiple cycles and then find superposition of

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them that gives me an estimate of
their peaks and crows occur. But obviously

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you always have to provide some tolerance
because market news could affect especially some short

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cycles, you know, or some
big fundamental news, et cetera. So

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what are some cycles that you follow
regularly in your work? I usually follow

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whatever is detected, but what I
detect is usually cycles like ten twenty day,

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forty day, eighty day, twenty
weeks, forty weeks up to up

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to eighteen months two year cycles.
These are meaningful for trading and investing,

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whether on multi week or multi month
basis. But of course there are much

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longer cycles like eighteen point six year
cycle or transport cycle you know, and

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other even longer one. And it's
an interesting question because this eighteen point six

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year cycle is expected to peak in
late twenty five or early twenty six,

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and also the sunspot cycle is expected
to peak in late twenty five, so

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stock market usually peaks coincidentally with the
sunspot cycle, or actually a few months

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earlier. So that suggests we could
expect some major peak in late twenty five

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or early twenty six. Interesting.
I know, there's like an eight week

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cycle for gold. I've heard of
a one hundred year war cycle eighteen point

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six year for real estate, right
real estate every eighteenth rect yours, and

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that one is uncannily accurate the real
estate cycle, isn't it. I mean,

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you look good, right, it's
pretty good. Variations are maybe I

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speaking from memory of variations or maybe
several months historically, but it today and

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you know, even a longer a
qundred TIV cycle. It's also very good.

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It's a fifty some year cycle,
but unfortunately we have records only for

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six of them, but very very
accurtves a couple of years. Yeah,

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so one hundred years from nineteen twenty
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and we could very well see an
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my opinion is just looking at the
news, we've seen our economic collapse.

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So we're in the midst of it. And you know, it's so interesting

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though, rather the cycles. So
much of our life is dictated by cycles,

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circadian rhythms, sleep cycles, birth, death, and you know,

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midlife, old age, and yet
so many of you out there just deny

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the existence or are unaware that the
cycles are even happening. Yeah, many

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people are loved by the way.
I take a look at my website.

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I have a very nice presentation about
all the review of these cycles, especially

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long it ones. And since you
mentioned twenty nine, which is one hundred

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years from nineteen twenty nine stock market
crash, in that presentations you will find

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that I found several cycles that converge
from twenty nine to early thirty thirty to

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thirty three, So that could be
a major major cycle law in the stock

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markets. All right, And we've
got a link in the show notes to

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brno's website and newsletter. It's Bravo
Cycles and just click it. It'll take

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you right through to it. And
so looking ahead here in the short term,

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in the next eighteen months, basically
you said this market peaks with the

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sun cycles. Sunspot cycles. I've
seen that theory before and something about human

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nature were unpredictable, but when it
comes to cycles, we come a lot

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more predictable. So you think the
market's going to continue on its rampage until

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twenty twenty five, twenty twenty six, or we're not going to see a

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collapse. So what's your research telling
you? Well, I see market down

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this year. As a matter of
fact, if you were reading my newsletters,

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you probably noticed that I couldn't find
excuses for market looking up. I

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was supporting the last few months in
October. But right now multiple market indexes

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are in the peak area, and
we may have seen the top top,

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you know, yesterday, So what's
happening. We should expect a cycle trough

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in March April, then bounce into
summer, and then another swing down into

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late twenty four or early twenty five, probably early twenty five, because there

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are more indexes that show cycled trough
in early twenty five, and then we

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should have very strong twenty five,
you know, very strong rebound. Whether

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that rebound is gonna take us to
new highs or not, I don't know.

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It's too early to say because time
cycles don't tell you that. They

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tell you turning points. But it's
gonna be strong. Twenty five is going

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to be a strong year, and
then after that it's going to be down

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in twenty seven, strong twenty eight, and then down into early twenty thirties.

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Yeah, hard to believe. We're
talking about the twenty thirties here,

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you know, in around a while, and the years just happen to go

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by like that. I mean,
It's kind kind of remarkable, like that

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these cycles are so prevalent and they're
so important, and yet they're so ignored,

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although the government doesn't ignore. After
the Great Depression, the financial collapse

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of nineteen twenty nine, the government
funded this Institute for the research of the

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economic cycles, and a lot of
solid research came out of there, and

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guys like Elliott Wave, I don't
know if you know, doctor Charles Nenner,

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Martin Armstrong, all of these guys
are like that data. Yeah,

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so what about the war cycle?
Do you track a war cycle? No?

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I just read you know. Look, look I'm strong just saying about

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them, and there are a few
other guys that follow war cycles, but

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I don't. Sorry, and you
couldn't follow everything. These are cycles.

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So the most important cycles not just
for your economic wellbeing, but for your

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health as well. What are the
most important cycles that you should be following.

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Well, I haven't explored the relationship
to help between cycles and help,

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but you know, these planetary cycles
are starting from Sun's cycle and Jupiter and

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Sutter. They are as longer term
cycles. They are most important for our

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for influence on Earth and Earth's electromagnetic
field. How that affects our help.

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I have no idea, but these
are the most important cycles for our life

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of course, very pity, and
there is also influence. But they are

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much shorter, much shorter cycles.
Yeah, so interesting, So can you

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share with us some of your well
some of the short term cycles, like

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I know gold has an eight week
cycle at least I've already mentioned before.

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You follow the precious metals at all, I do. I do follow precious

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metals and publish you know, gold
cycles, you know, every month or

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so. Right now gold is in
a short cycle down turn, but still

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has some potential this into summer.
But it started actually a long term cycle

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I think plast year and now speaking
from memory, I think eight year cycle

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or four year cycle. I could
say it one hundred percent accuracy. But

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speaking about commodities, I think the
national gas is very interesting because it's going

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to start right now about now two
years very strong cycle. And it's also

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incidentally it's also a positive seasonality for
cornational gas. Plus it hit my all

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my cycle targets for down. So
normally when you don't have more down targets,

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it should turn up. And whether
it's today or within a month,

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but it's going to go up,
and gold is also going to go up

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next few months after this consolidation.
It's in a temporary downturn, but I

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don't remember exactly the length of the
cycle. Yeah, and you know it

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so interesting natural gas follows that cycle
very closely, more than just about any

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other commodity. And yet the traders
call trading natural gas the widow maker.

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That's correct, that's said, but
but very closely adheres to the cycles.

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Hey what about food? Uh you
know they've been down wheat and corn and

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all that good stuff. I just
tweeted about. Yeah, sorry, yeah,

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yeah, tell us your lady.
I just I just tweeted last night.

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And corn I think it's hitting the
cycle, all major cycle law and

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it's gonna be in a two years
up face and uh weat two uh two

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is wat is still bottoming? But
you know, any any week from now

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and the end of March, it
should bottom and should have one plus year

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very strong cycle. I mean,
how cycle one plus year two year cycle

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over all? Yeah. Interesting.
So when you started your cycle research,

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was there any cycle that you uncovered
or found evidence of that really surprised you.

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Well, I started this long time
ago, you know, when I

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was doing my master's thesis that was
like almost forty years ago. Sounds suppose

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sundate ourselves, let's not give our
cycles away. So I was actually already

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then surprised how that sunspot cycle is
connected with different cycles on Earth electromagnetic cycles.

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It really affects us a lot.
But searching these financial market cycles,

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I couldn't say that I discovered many
new ones. I found one point seventy

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five years that seems nobody noticed before, but otherwise I just verified not other

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people found out. And what was
a little bit surprising to me that there

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are several of these cycles that are
very significant and prominent in financial markets that

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are not harmonically related. Like,
for example, there is a four year

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cycle, and then seven year cycle
very prominent, but it's not harmonic to

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almost any other cycle. There is
twenty eight year cycle, so but people

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don't notice it very much, and
then eleven year cycle is not it's not

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pharmonic with seven or four. So
all the original cycle theories from Dewey and

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and uh Hurst and the other guys, where they're all cycles are harmonics factor

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of two or factor of three.
I found that's not the case, and

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I usually find two sets of cycles
that are harmonics but not mutually with each

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other, and then some single players
like eleven year. Yeah, you would

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think like all the agricultural commodities,
their cycles would be harmonic, but yet

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they're not. They're independent, right, Like cotton could be moving one way

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and orn and wheat could be moving
another. Even corn and wheat can be

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moving opposite ways, and you would
think they'd be part of the same cycle.

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That's that's a little bit surprising because
most of these commodities should be should

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be tied to the seven year cycle. If you remember that seven year cycle

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was prominent in Jewish culture but also
in Indian old Indian culture. You know,

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Vedas talked about seven year cycle,
that was agricultural cycle. Every seven

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years, there was a terrible job
that, you know, nothing, nothing

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worked. But people also almost forgot
about because agriculture is not the main part

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of our society anymore, so people
forgot about that cycle and the death cycle.

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Every seven years they'd have in jubilee
and the slaves their deaths would be

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forgiven, and then you'd have the
grand cycle, the forty nine year Grand

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Jubilee and exact maybe we really haven't
gotten away from that. I mean,

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when you look at the world's problems
and the debt, there's going to have

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to be a jubilee at some point. It's unsustainable at the current rate,

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isn't it. Yeah, well,
that's what some people are talking about,

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and I don't know about that.
As you achieved it progress in the more

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developed parts of the world, birth
rates are not so great, so you

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know, population is going down.
So as the rest of the world develops,

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that probably will be solved by itself. Yeah, I guess so.

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Well. I think you're right.
But the government's out of control spending and

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debt. It's not just the United
States, although we're the leader of it,

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it's virtually every country in the world. And I think that cycle is

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coming to an end as well.
Huh, I definitely think so. And

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the superpower cycle over the years,
you know, that runs its course as

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well. Right, that's true.
That's Dhalia was actually talking about a lot

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about superpower cycle. He has a
look, I don't know if you've seen

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it. Yeah, I've seen it. I think, yeah, right,

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sure, you got a guy like
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when he says something, so hey, it's bravo cycles. The links in

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the show notes, Brown, I
really appreciate you coming on sharing your wisdom.

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I always like to see people who've
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you have a body of work that
lends more credibility and that you're ready to

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adjust theories, cycles, intervals where
necessary. I think that's crucial. If

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you got a question for doctor Brewna
or myself, just shoot me an email

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Hey ron It, it's been a
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have you back on pleasure of his
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