This show is produced and hosted by Mark Webber. The show is sponsored by
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from the New York City projects to the Avenue Montaigne in Paris. His
global success story in the luxury world of fashion is inspirational. He's gone from
clerk to CEO twice. Mark is classic proof that the American dream is alive
and well, here's your host of Always in Fashion, Mark Weber. Mark
Weber. I hate looking forward, particularly looking forward to the future. I
want today, whether a day or a year. I don't like planning anything
actually, let alone for down the road. It's day. It's precious.
I want to enjoy the moment, enjoy the outcomes. Time is precious.
Time is the one commodity or lore of nature that cannot replenish itself. The
past is the past, The future is every second I'm talking with you.
The Moody Blues album Days of Future Past clever blurring of time, looking backward,
memories, beautiful. I want to celebrate, but the next memories are
right now, and I want to make them. I don't have any desire
to rush life. It's moving at an incredible pace already. I'm appreciative for
living in the moment. You can't reminisce about the future. It will happen
when it happens. Yes, I am realistically enjoying and appreciating the sun rising
and the sun's setting, the rain or the sunshine, the hot or the
cold, to be busy or not annoyed or satisfied. I like living in
the present. I like being the center of attention or as a reclusive guy
left alone to my own devices. I can take comments constructively, but barely
prefer and always prefer my own case. There's the truth or a version of
the truth. But no matter what, I hate wasting time. Worse,
I hate waiting and rushing for tomorrow. I prefer to live in the moment
after tomorrow. A buddy of mine said to me that simple statement. It
made me thinking. After tomorrow got me thinking about what's important after tomorrow.
What is it? It's a reservation in time, a promise I will not
put off today for tomorrow. I will not throw away a minute fund for
another time. I'm living for today until tomorrow. Hastameniana. After tomorrow not
my thing, unless, of course, after tomorrow is something really special.
It's coming with a cherry on top tonight. I'm living in the moment,
wondering about after tomorrow. Now speaking time, the busy, busy, busy,
busy, busy, busy co host. I've always in fashion, my
lawyer and my son, Jesse Weber. Jesse, nice of you to stop
by tonight. What have you missed the last three or four weeks? Hey?
What do you want from me? All Right, It's not like this
is intentional. I'm swamped. I am drowning in work. I don't have
enough time to do three things in one hour. So you know what,
I want to be here. I love hosting with you, It's one of
my favorite things. But I'm on TV. I'm hosting TV shows. I'm
on News Nation. You know what I did? I host like four times
on News Nation last week. I'm hosting a long crime every day. I'm
not saying this show is not important. I want that to be clear.
I love being on it, but I have a full time career and TV
radio. I have conflicts. I have conflicts. I try to make it
work. You have more of a specific schedule than I do. You give
me a like an hour two hours to do something. It's hard for me
to do it. You may prefer TV, and I get it, but
we're also podcast, Apple, Spotify, iHeart, I get it. I
get it. What would you have me do when I have a conflict,
when I have interviews, when I have things like TV TV No Question and
by the way, I do a podcast called Sidebar that's on YouTube, and
sometimes those interviews get scheduled right in the middle of our show. So I'm
sorry that I couldn't be on with you. I'm sorry to the audience that
I couldn't be there with all of you. I miss being here with you.
I always want to do it, and I always asked what should I
do? I don't know. You are doing what you should do. In
business, there are always decisions in trade offs. TV's the right move.
Having said that, what's so important, mister smarty pants. Smarty pants,
let's say what is a quote that hasn't been used since nineteen thirty This I
leave you for two weeks, and this is what happens. You start using
this. Well, look, there's a lot going on. One of the
biggest things that I've been covering is all the Ditty news, the Sean Ditty
Combs news. And you know, I'm just curious to talk to you about
this. Why. Really, what I'm talking about is that horrific video that
was published by CNN where it's basically Sean Dittycomb's allegedly beating his ex girlfriend.
It's terry. You have to say ALLEGI because you're their attorney. I got
to say I was in his camp. My frame of reference was Sean Diddy.
He came to see me Sean Combs as a businessman to businessman asking for
help on his peril business because he wanted to make sure his children had a
legacy of a business they could run if they're not rap singers. And he
was being realistic, and I saw him as a family man, as a
father and a good guy. After that video, you gotta think twice of
I think twice. Let me ask you a question, if you were running
a company and he wanted to do business with you, would you do business
with him after that? You know, that's a complicated question in today's world.
You know, if I did business with people I liked, I'd be
alone all the time. And I'm not really sure how I would answer the
question. If you're asking me seriously, I would have hesitation guy with a
temper like that, a guy who didn't respect women. From that perspective,
yeah, how can you possibly do business with him? Well? I sometimes
wonder about the blurring that takes place with business and personal life. Well,
well, wait a second, hold on, you might have a hesitation to
do business with him if the video was blurry and you couldn't tell what was
going on, the fact that that video was so clear should make your decision
very easy a from an ethical point of view, but be from a purely
business point of view. Who is going to want to buy products associated with
Diddy right now? Well, there's no hesitation. You're asking me a different,
a different question. Decision would you do? If you're asking me,
would I do any business with him with his name involved and his brand on
there? No? How can you? Nobody would support that? Right?
So then what's the other avenue? I'm not quite sure I have one,
to tell you the truth, it's just something that it bothers me, blurring
the lines between business and life it may be wrong. I am. I'm
the first to admit it. I haven't given him much thought. Well,
what did you feel I've ever done with celebrities or living people, always has
morality clauses in it. And if he got caught in that video doing that
and he was on our payroll, he'd be fired instantly, no question.
I wouldn't have a second thought if you had any hesitation the fact that he
made an apology video admitting it was him. What did you think of the
apology video? Because I have to tell you, from a PR point of
view, it was awful and from a legal point of view, made absolutely
no sense. He is still possibly under federal investigation. Why is he releasing
a video basically admitting that was him on the tape? Well, timeout,
he didn't release the video, no, no, no, no. He
released an apology video on Instagram. The apology video. You're saying it was
bad from a PR review, I haven't a legal point of view. From
a legal point of view, he apologized for his behavior. He essentially admitting
that it's him in the video. But he shouldn't have released that his lawyership,
Well, you're the lawyer again, I don't know that he was trying
to get it behind him, and he admitted that he went for counseling,
he went in therapy. He apologized it was sincere but since here he's under
possible federal investigation right now for sex trafficking, where you're forcing people to do
things against their will, threats of physical violence, using physical violence. There's
a tape. Now he's admitting that's him doing that. That's a key piece
of evidence that could be used in a case against him. And he's admitted
to Tim, Well, you're the lawyer, Okay. I got to make
my position clear. You asked me a question, when you hire him for
business? I say, sometimes business and personal will get blurred. I might
be wrong now, I'll admit it. But after seeing that, my supporting
of him, my giving him the benefit of the doubt, is gone.
He's a dirt bag. There's no excuse for that behavior. And whatever's going
to happen him from a federal point of view, they're going to find out.
But clearly his behavior was reprehensible. Now do I forgive him? Does
she forgive him? By the way, No, she does not forgive him.
And even though she filed a lawsuit against him, back in November.
She settled with him the next day. When she settled with him, she
made it clear that she's not absolving him of everything. She said, this
is all true what I said, but we decided to resolve it amicably.
After the video was released and after his apology, she released the statement actually
saying, I wish it didn't have to take the release of this video for
people to believe my side of the story about what happened. And right after
this video and after the apology, he got sued again by somebody else,
which I thought was gonna happen. That happens a lot, I know.
One it was crazy, as bad as it was, As bad as it
was. When he kicked her in the face when she was down, that
was insane. And then when he was dragging her but she was out,
that's insane. Who can believe any word that comes out of his mouth?
Now, that's a thug behaving. It was disgusting, disgusting to see.
I wonder if it's truthful that he did go into therapy and he did go
into rehab right after that. I would love you know what you know,
you know why that feels a little disingenuous. I take responsibility. I accept
what I did. First of all, he's accused of buying the footage from
the hotel, so it wouldn't get released. Put that to a side.
If he really felt so bad about it. Number two, if he really
felt so bad about it, there was a three year statute of limitations in
California for an assault charge. He made sure that that expired and no evidence
came out. He could have gone to police if he really felt bad,
said you know, I did something wrong here. I want to own up
to it. Here's the footage, here's what I did. He kept it
quiet, and now he only comes out apologizing it because he knows he can't
be prosecuted for it in California. The DA's office said, this has happened
in twenty sixteen. You're gonna blame him for live using the law in his
favor. I wouldn't do that. No. Is it really unusual or you
anybody surprised that after the video came out he actually apologized. What I want
to know is did he go into therapy right after that happened, like he
said he did. That would be important to the entirety of the case.
By the way, just because this happened. It doesn't make everything else true.
That's clear, But the allegations against him in other lawsuits said there was
conduct behavior after twenty sixteen. So how much did this therapy or when he
went in that really helped. It's a question that we have to ask.
Yeah, Well, if you want to discuss the video I think we covered
at dirt Bag, you want to discuss his apology. All I want to
know is is true he went into therapy and counselor if he did, then
it tends to make the apology more legitimate. Now all the other offenses and
all the other things that he's being accused of, each one will take its
own course of action, but it certainly doesn't help his case. The way
you got him on video. Well, I think we pretty much talked about
did he There's been another big, high profile person in the news, Donald
Trump. His criminal trial out in New York is about to come to a
close next week, closing arguments, possible verdict. Have you been following it
at all? I have, And there is a former legal guy who spoke
to Michael Kohne and completely testified differently to what Michael Cohne has said. Have
you seen that one. Is that about. You're talking about Robert Costello,
who at once this point was representing Michael Cohen. Now here's the problem with
Robert Costello. Okay, this came at the end of the prosecution's case.
Now, I will tell you from a legal point of view, I don't
know if the prosecution really proved their case. I didn't think the defense,
meaning Donald Trump, even needed to put on a case. They could have
done enough to raise reasonable doubt. They said, you know what, No,
we're gonna call Robert Costello because we're gonna try to show how Michael Cohen
is a liar, right, and Michael Cohen's an important witness for the prosecution.
He basically said Donald Trump knew about these illegal payments, he approved these
illegal payments, he had the criminal intent, blah blah blah. So Robert
Costello comes on the stand and he says, yeah, I represented Michael Cohen
at one point I was talking to him, and he's a liar. He
came up to me and told me I have no dirt on Trump. I
can't say Donald Trump did anything. He didn't know about the payments. Now
he's testifying to this jury and saying something else. So a part of me
is thinking, Wow, what a great witness for the defense. Right turns
out Robert Costello got into a fight with the judge. Now a lot of
it wasn't seen by the jury, but there was a part of it where
there was reporting that two jurors looked at each other by the way that Robert
Costello was behaving on the stand, and he was very combative with the prosecutor,
and he was a little obnoxious. But what happened outside the presence of
the jury. The judge had to excuse the whole courtroom and say to this
Robert Costelle, I have a problem with your demeanor. And as he's talking
to him about his behavior in court, according to the transcript, the judge
said to Robert Costello, are you trying to stare me down right now?
And then excused all the reporters out of the courtroom, had a private conversation
with him, brought the jury and the reporters back in. That's not who
you want in your camp. That doesn't look good for the court. That
doesn't look good. But what about what he said that he has Michael Clones
saying, Wow, Donald Trump didn't do anything. It's all on him.
Donald didn't know. So the problem is Robert Costell also said I never pressured
him to protect Donald Trump. I never pressured him to say, Look,
if you turn on Donald Trump, you're being in trouble. Well, then
the prosecution kind of came out with all of these emails from Robert Costello that
would say something otherwise, that tried to say he was putting pressure on Michael
Cowen. So he had really serious credibility issues. It doesn't take away from
Michael Cohen's credibility issues because Michael Cohen on the stand admitted that he lied stole
from Donald Trump, and it has a financial interest in whether or not Donald
Trump is convicted or not. So the jury can look at him and say,
we already have our issues with him. But the defense might have hurt
themselves by calling mister Costello, I didn't know that he admitted he stole from
Donald Trump. What do you steal? So he said that he was paid
a certain amount of money and part of that money was supposed to be paid
to a third party, and he ended up not paying that full amount to
the third party but just pocketed at thirty thousand dollars himself. His theory was,
Yeah, Donald Trump's people, they didn't pay me enough. I was
felt I was basically entitled to a bonus. So you have your stars.
He stole the money from the defendant. He admitted to lying to Congress,
to investigators. He is a very problematic witness. And why he was called
as the last witness for the prosecution because they knew he had credibility issues.
Hey, could Michael con end get up in jail being sued by Donald Trump
is stealing from him? Well, you sue somebody, They're not going to
end up in jail. If you're talking about whether or not he could be
prosecuted for it, No, two reasons. One, I would say the
statue limitations, the time limit is expired. But number two, Michael Cohen
said he met with prosecutors the past year twenty times. You don't think they
know about what happened here. You think they made a deal with him.
We're not going to prosecute you for this. As long as you testify against
Donald Trump, no chance. So he could do whatever he wants. As
long as he testifies, he's free. Well, I mean do whatever he
wants. He hasn't. He's got a fall from Grace. He went to
prison, but right now he's testifying against Donald Trump. He's made a living
off of going after Donald Trump. He's expressed that to the jury, so
he's got credibility issues. But we'll see what happens. I think this is
a bit of a struggle. There's a chance that the jury might be deadlocked
and we might see a hung jury. I think it's going to be tough
to get all the jurors to agree one way or another on this case.
Well, I see why you're busy. It's, first of all, on
top of everything else, it's incredibly hard to understand and to even explain,
which is what you have to do. I'll tell you one thing tonight.
You know, we're talking about not tomorrow but today. These guys, there
are a bunch of guys who wish they treated their past yesterday differently. But
that as a backdrop. Thanks for being here today, Jesse. It's great
you're back with me. We're going to take a break and when we come
back, let's talk about never put off tomorrow what you can do today.
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I'm very happy spring in summer, and I help you by telling you if
you were eyesight, you're going to look great welcome back to it always in
fashion. Here's your host, Mark Webber After tomorrow. Buddy of mine used
that term with me and it got me thinking about the whole concept of living
for today, and that's what we're doing tonight. Now. I have some
great stories, one in particular I have to share with you about my career
before we go to Justin. You gotta regrets in life. I do have
a regret. My regret is that I didn't start this career that I'm on
earlier. I don't know if that meant maybe not going to law school.
I love law school, but maybe not practicing for several years and you know,
doing other things. I think I should have started this career in Broadcastinger,
Yeah, I regret. So you when you do something intentionally and you
don't want to do them, that's not a regret. You had to learn
along the way. You did nothing wrong. How did you know you'd end
up knowing how to do this and you'd like it and love it. Without
the Lord agree, you wouldn't be doing this. That's fair then me?
Yeah, how about you? You know? For me, the only thing
I could really think of, Wow, there's a few things I look,
I was married to your mom for a long time she passed away. I
wish I would have known she was going to have a problem, and I
would have been different. We would have spent more time. But you can't
look back in life that way. It's a regret. Sure, it's a
regret she's not here, but you can't do anything about it. I did
have a regret in my business life that I want to talk about, and
again I'm not sure whether there's anything differently I could have done. You see,
after tomorrow we're talking about today. It speaks of waiting. And one
of my greatest disappointments in my business career surrounds the decision on waiting, and
it wasn't even my decision. And this takes place in my early days of
joining LVMH Louis Vitan Moha Hennessy. Truth be told, I had just joined
the group, but I quickly wanted to make a name for myself. From
the first time in my life, I went from being an American executive representing
an American company to an American businessman representing a European company, a French luxury
conglomerate. It was very different, and I really wanted to come out strong,
and I was giving a thought, and I would tell you why they
knew me. I was vetted as if it was the FBI or the CIA.
I was an American recruit for LVMH, and they went and did a
background check the likes of which you can't imagine. Now having said it,
I joined the company. I hadn't proven anything yet, so I had no
track record. And again, for the purpose of the story, I want
to tell you, most importantly, the truth be told. I didn't understand
the LVMH Group's brand management philosophies. I didn't understand how they varied companies interreacted,
how the executives from one company dealt with one of the executives another,
namely, what was their operating manual on individual brands and on the corporation.
I didn't have a clue. I didn't know if any of my ideas would
be shocked to their system. And in hindsight, when I think about what
I'm about to say, I never even considered at the time that what I
was suggesting could be counter or wrong fit for the LVMH culture. However,
my idea, though can be voided in my lack of understanding European culture and
the LVMH operating system. But it was simply elegant and brilliant, and after
tomorrow is what I got. I joined LVMH chefter thirty year incredible history with
one of the world's most successful apparel companies and the largest purveyor of dress shirts
for men in the world. They had brands including c K, Covin Kline,
Tommy Hillfire venues in great industry. After all, let's not forget we
all need clothes, so apparel is always going to be in our lives,
and companies that execute well do very well. Back to LVMH. So here
I am. I'm vetted, I go and trained. I'm ready to go.
I'm ready to run with no background to speak of on the INNI and
workings of the LVMH group. But I have an idea. I also know
no one can get in the way of an idea whose time has come.
And I was very confident as a guy and very confident in my skill set,
very confident what I wanted to do now. I had assignments as the
CEO of LVMH inc. I was the chairman and CEO of the Donna Karen
Company, and while I oversaw the global expanse. I also oversaw the global
expansion of the luxury British shirtmaker Thomas Pink of Germany Street in London. But
truth be told, there wasn't enough for me. I always had big ideas
in my former life. I was a corporate guys in a CEO, I
can make decisions, and as a member of LVMH, I was in complete
control over my areas of responsibility, naming Donna, Karen or Tom must think
and of course what does that really mean. It means you do what you
think is best for the company. You always keep in close enough contact so
that the management back in France would know what you're doing. In Paris.
They always understood what my idea as well my strategy was, and there were
no surprises. But I realized that the breadth of brands and designers in the
LVMAGE group each had their own CEOs or presidents, and they all had something
to say. These guys like me in my area's responsibility or CEOs, we
are powerful and proud and in control of the events that we had in our
own individual companies. But I realized I was not in control of the events
I had in mind see at LVMH. I did report to the manager director.
Here in the United States, we'd call him the president, number two
guy in the company, in this case number two to Bernard Orneau, the
founder and CEO. So I had clout if I needed it. But enough
with the chessboard, the titles, the reporting structures, the idea. The
men's wear business is huge, it's global, it's highly predictable. It's unlike
women's wear and women's wear today women wearing tight pants. Tomorrow they may all
be upsolete and everything is now wide pants changes any day. That's fashion in
the women's business. Very trendy changes men's wear where creatures of habit things don't
change. Let me tweak that a bit. They might change, Yes,
the style may change maybe maybe sometime, but not really very often. And
the key to the men's business, it's very predictable. You know what you're
going to wear, and you understand where the money is made. If you
take men's dress, shirt's fifty percent twenty years ago is white, fifty percent
now is white. It doesn't change. There's always a few patterns, a
few stripes. I could point to you them in a store and tell you
which ones will sell them want do. But men's in general's risk adverse.
It's very very predictable, and fashion is a lesser component now my career.
Back to the idea. One thing I know is how to make money.
You make money and shirts, sweaters, knit shirts, and pants, basic
fashion, simple things that we all wear. Pair of jeans, para,
khaki pants, white shirt, a polo shirt, a sweater or a blazer.
Never changed. I don't know if you know got there. Those are
who are interested in the business that you sell four tops, whether shirt,
sweat or whatever, every pair of pants that's sold. So the top's business
is much bigger than the bottomser's. And then there's the eighty twenty rule,
which is always there in men's clothes. Eighty percent of the offering is for
statement, twenty percent of the offerings, Well, you need to invest because
one hundred percent of the business comes from twenty percent of your ideas, twenty
percent of your inventory. Give you an example, twenty percent of the make
the money. And those colors never change. Back to the white treasure.
Fifty percent is white, twenty percent is blue, thirty percent is the balance
of simple colors. It's all predictable. You have color styles and men shirt
two of the ten. We'll drive all the business, the eight, the
round collar, the point colors, and that all that stuff is done for
show. Now. I don't know if I'm smart, but I know I'm
well trained, and this guy me was brilliantly trained, and on top of
which, I was a menswear expert. My idea, I'm working for the
group. I'm running their operations, legal, human resources, real estate.
I'm running down to Karen Thomas pink. But that's not enough for me.
I had a different idea. In my former company, we had a design
a shirt business, and that shirt business was made up of Calvin Klein,
Tommy Hifley and DK Why And if I tell you the business was huge,
it was beyond belief and such a profit maker was unbelievable. I wanted to
start a ends designer shirt business for luxury brands. I knew it could be
usually profitable if PDH could build a juggernaut with those brands that I just mentioned,
could you imagine what I could do with LVMH brands. Think about this
Louis Vuitton dress shirt with the logo interconnecting LV. I, for one,
saw the opportunity is bigger than life, and I could see the biggest luxury
stores in the world fighting for it. I wanted to create a bidding wharf
for the rights to sell Louis Vuitton dress shirt between Bergdorf's, Kneveh and Sacks.
All three of them would fight like crazy. They would trip all over
it, and I would give the criteria for being an elviria Louis Vton dress
shirt opportunity. You have to build a dedicated shirt shop for me. It
might include only Louis Vuitton, but it might include my other brands. I
will tell you where it will sit in your store, and I will tell
you you never ever ever put that brand on sale. If you have inventory
that's on sold, we'll talk about what to do with it. But you're
not going to have sales on my product. Now, I got it.
I need alignment with the brand presidents, but this opportunity was huge. I
love to be in the driver's seat seeing these prestigious retails fighting for the chance.
I can dream, can I. I also thought it this way.
I hoped LVMH would make it clear that when I showed up and those stores
and I said them, look, I'm building a luxury shirt coman. It's
going to consist of five or six brands within our group, most notably LV
Louis Vuitton. I wanted LVH to back me up, and anybody who refused
me building a shop of my shirts, LV would come in and say,
if you don't put in those shirt chops, I'm pulling my handbags out of
your store and opening a Louis Vuitton store right next to you. I can
dream, can I now? Just to make the point, knitwear, knit
shirts and sweaters is similar. Opportunity company would have a knitwear version. Could
you imagine how predictable knitwear? Every knit shirt you see right now is either
a polo or a zip mock, or turtleneck or a cardigan. Did you
ever notice how big the Ralph Lauren polo pony's shirt really is. It's everywhere.
That shirt is like having a bank account. You put the money in
the inventory OF's shirt and it keeps selling forever, forever and ever. Can
you imagine setting up a luxury shop of Louis Vuitton polo shirts with the LVY
logo. It would be amazing. There's not a golfer in the world.
There's not a guy in the world who could afford it, would have the
courage not to buy it. They don't want it, even though it's it's
a five hundred dollars seven hundred and fifty dollars. It wouldn't matter what it
costs. People want it. After all, handbags and suitcases begin at two
thousand dollars in Alvy and go to ten thousand. Huge. If you had
a Cashmeer sweater and a V neck and crew anywhere from a thousand to three
thousand dollars, it would be amazing. And then of course you bring in
the black and a modern view of Dior or Givon she or Celine, it
would be priceless. I could picture women's wear daily the headline. Mark Webber
creates a brilliant men's who wear business for the Elvly Image group. Mark Weber
has always had big ideas, and he said in his book Always in Fashion
once in my life I was brilliant. Well can now say it for him?
No? Mark, not once twice? I can dream? Can I
what an idea? I was so happy, so excited to do this.
The group, I'm sure never thought about it, and even if they did,
they wouldn't know how to execute it. And I would. Now you
may ask where are those shirt shops? Right now, I'll tell you where
they are nowhere. I was told after I had a plan to revolutionize shirt,
to change the world of shirts forever, to build a luxury concept that
no one ever had for I was told the follow Yes, Mark, it
may be a brilliant idea, but before you try to present new ideas to
the group, you have to learn the culture of our European business, our
history and strategies. We don't think like American companies. We have our own
culture. Furthermore, you have agreed to deliver the Donna Karen Company to profitability
for the sake of the LVMH Group. This is a major undertaking. We've
had three CEOs in the last six years who have tried. No one did.
No one made it profitable to the degree that we hired you to do.
So you have plenty to do. Once again, my advice is takes
some time and we'll discuss your idea of luxury shirts after tomorrow. I immediately
thought of The Godfather Part three. That's what I do, and I think
of movies and life. I love it. Michael Corleone. Godfather Part three
is trying to purchase a large Italian based conglomerate for the Collone family when he
was told by the chairman of the board of a mobilare and he said,
a mobile Lobbery is a magnificent company built in the European tradition, all our
ships must sail in the same direction. Now, I'm no godfather, but
I did have a great idea and it never happened. Probably didn't make sense,
I don't know, but I was still willing to put my career and
future on the line, and to tell you the truth, I still would
now. And all I can say is, after tomorrow, maybe they'll tune
in, maybe they'll hear the show. And remember twice in my life I
was brilliant after tomorrow. A business regret always in fashion. I spent a
lifetime of my career building the van usen Brandt and I am so pleased that
they're back with us now talking about suits. Men were dressing up again and
it's become cool to wear a suit. Suits can be won on multiple occasions
in multiple ways. You could wear a suit formally to go out at night
or to an event. You wear a suit to the office with or without
a tie. If you look closely. Now fashion trends suits are being worn
with turtlenecks or mack next. The choices are endless and every one of them
looks right. You could really really look the part. I believe that packaging
yourself is as important does the products you package, and wearing a suit is
one of those things that make men look their best. Venues In invented a
new idea. It's called the cool Flex suit. It's been engineered with stretch
technology, giving you the most comfortable fit and mobility. Its wrinkle resistant fabric,
it's cool moisture wiki. It makes it perfect for all occasions. As
we discussed just now, this new style of looking sharp while feeling cool and
comfortable is amazing, and I'm so excited that the ven using company is involved
in this new technology and is embracing the whole idea of dressing up. Let's
not forget van Usen made its name with dress shirts. It's only proper that
the suit business follows strongly in its way. You can find van using Koolflex
Men's stretch suits at jcpenny or online at jcpenny dot com. Guys, they're
great. You should go look at them. DK and why Donna Karen,
New York. Donna Karen began her career as one of the finest, most
successful, powerful women in the fashion industry. She developed a collection aimed at
the luxury market for women on the go, women who were powerful in their
workplace, women who had lives that extended beyond the workplace, and her clothes
went from day and to night. An extraordinary collection. But the interesting thing
Donna Karen had a young daughter, and she had friends and they couldn't afford
to buy the Donna Karen collection, and Donna invented dk Andy Donna Karen,
New York. It's an offshoot of the Donna Karen collection. The same concept
a lifestyle brand. Then we talk about lifestyle brands, What does that really
mean? Simply what they say, there are brands that follow you throughout your
lifestyle. You get up in the morning, you start to get dressed.
Donn A Karen dcaan why as intimate apparel, as hosiery, as all those
products. You're getting dressed for work. You get accessorized shoes, handbags,
and it takes you through the day. The remarkable thing about DK and Y
clothes for work, they work into the evening the dresses, the suits,
the pants, the sweaters, the blouses, extraordinary clothes at affordable prices that
go from day in tonight. Part of your lifestyle is active. You have
weekends, you have events, you participate in sports. Donna Karen's Casual Clothes
did that under the DKNY label. A vast array of casual sports that make
women look great as they navigate their busy lives. Whether you're going to soccer
games for your children, or whether you're going out to the movies, whatever
you want to do, dkn Y Jenes dk Y Sportswear is there for you.
That's what a lifestyle brand is. And I need to mention DKY Activewear,
which is extraordinary, the leggings, the sports bras, the sweats.
You can wear DKY Activewear certainly in the gym, certainly when you're working out
at home, and certainly if you want on the street, because it's that
well done. The quality of dk why is nothing short of exceptional. And
why shouldn't it be because it was born from the idea of luxury made affordable
for women of America. Dk and Why a true lifestyle brand that takes you
from day and tonight, from the week into the weekend. DCN why you
can find DCNY and Macy's DKY dot com. Welcome back to Always in Fashion.
Here's your host, Mark Webber. I hate looking forward, particularly the
few. I don't want to waste a minute. I want to enjoy everything
right now. Time is precious and those of you don't realize time is the
only commodity in nature that you can't replenish. Water comes back, the trees
bloom, the sun comes out, the moon sets, or the moon is
out there. Times it goes, it's gone. I don't want to be
looking to the future for the next good time. I want to enjoy it
right now. What got me thinking is the title of the show is called
After Tomorrow. I don't want to wait after tomorrow to have a good time.
And it's springtime and I can't help but think. I have a story
on golf life, integrity that I want to share with you and being the
golf seasons in this thick of things. The story is about golf, but
it's about people. Jesse, you're familiar with this. It's a story about
Richard and golf. Ah fa favorite story of a person that I don't like
very much. Yeah, well as The story goes the family and I were
in Las Vegas. We were playing golf. We're on vacation. We have
a great time. And one day I get a call from someone we knew,
someone I did business with. I kind of liked Mark. I want
you and the boys to come play golf with me. Well, we're on
vacation. He said, no, I have a great course lined up.
You'll be my guest, come play. I'd love to spend some time with
you. So I said, let me get back to you. And I
talked to the boys and I said, you want to play with Richard And
they said, why not. He's a decent guy. I like him.
Let's go play and we'll have a fun time. And he picked a great
golf course, Cascatta Golf Course used to be owned by MGM. It's now
owned by the Caesars Palace. Link's course in the middle of the desert.
Beautiful, beautiful, luxury golf course, very expensive, hard to get on.
We went to play there and the first thing out of Richard's mouth how
much the golf course is costing them that day? And I'm saying to myself,
I didn't need your money. I didn't invite you. You invited me,
you wanted us to come. I didn't have to choose to play there.
So I said to him, you know, do you want me to
pay for our side? And you don't have to pay. No, No,
you're might guess you know so already turned me off. So you talk
about people. What's the point first question mentioning the money, Jess, you've
got a point of view on that one. It's low class. It's really
done to show look how much look what I'm doing for you. Look how
much money I have. You know it's not done for any benevolent reason.
Let me put it that way. Yeah. Part two, we get to
the course, we go to the driving range. We're having a great time
hitting the bulls. We know the course. I played there twenty times with
the boys. Regardless of what a cost, it's worth. It great place.
We're having a great time. And Richard says, let's play for money.
Now these I'm dealing with my sons, you know, just the idea
of playing for money. I don't even like sending that signal. He says,
let's play for money. You and me Mark will play together and we'll
play against the young Turks. Here Jared and Jesse, let's play against them.
I don't remember how much money do we play for, Jesse, I
don't know, like twenty dollars. And you know, our position is,
we love golf. We never play for money. In all my history,
I've never once said to someone I want to play for money. Now you
do, because it's just the nature of the game. People bet on golf.
But you know, I'm with my sons. It's a fun time.
We're on vacation. But he says he wants to play for money. And
he hits an errand shot into the desert and we can see there's no way
in the world he could find this ball. It's just impossible. And lo
and behold he finds his ball. Remember what you felt like when he saw
that, Jesse, Yeah, I felt like it was Goldfinger. James Bond's
playing against the bad guy, Goldfinger, and Goldfinger's caddy number two guys.
Assassin goes into the woods, drops a ball and goes ah found it,
And so that's what I found, Like, he basically dropped the ball,
but what I saw him do wait wait, wait, wait wait, you
forgot the rest of the story. So James Bond says to his caddy,
Ah, mister Goldfinger's cheating. So the caddy says, how do you know
that? And James Bond lifts up his foot and shows Goldfinger's ball, so
he knows that Goldfinger's playing with the wrong ball. And at the very end,
in the last hole, James Bond switches the balls and he goes,
oh, you were playing with this ball before he goes oh, I guess
you must have been hitting the wrong ball for the last five holes. I
guess you forfeit. You lose strict rules. And so James Bond won.
But that's not what happened here. What I saw happen here, well,
well, you've got the greatest line for golf. Strict rules of golf.
Golf finger strict rules of golf. So I see Richard take his club and
start moving the ball into a better position. I don't think you need to
be an expert in golf to know that is not allowed. That is a
penalty. And he keeps moving it to get into a better lie. And
I'm saying to myself normally, again, like you said, perfectly, if
this was a game we're just playing, I wouldn't care let him hit wherever
he wants. To have a better game. But if we're playing for money
and he does that and I have to suck it up and not say anything,
I was furious. I was furious. Yeah, so you told me
to gain what? You know, he's not gonna admit it. Were embarrass
make it bad. Could you have just said you'd be like, what is
a soccer? You're not allowed to dribble? Well, the outcome of the
event was we played, we finished the day, we had a nice day,
and neither one of us ever saw him again. I didn't have to
wait for after tomorrow to take him out because I wanted no part of him.
And that was the end. So the point is, I guess is
I like to talk about integrity all the time. It's such an important thing.
This is a business associate. I no longer enjoyed his company. I
no longer wanted to do business with him. I didn't stop the business.
I didn't encourage it. I didn't socialize it anymore. I had nothing to
do with them, and I was the one who generated the breakup of our
personal relationship. Guys, gals, you only own one thing in this world,
your integrity, your word. You can never ever ever compromise it either
today or after tomorrow, back in a moment. Always in fashion. Venues
for over one hundred and fifty years now has been a mainstay in American fashion.
This brand that was invented for dress shirts was given to cold miners when
they exited the mills, dirty and dusty. The Phillips Venues and Company Phillips
Family's there to give them fresh new shirts that they could wear at home and
feel their best. Over the course of time, venues and dress shirts grew
and grew and grew to suit shirts and ties for the dress up, and
now sportswear has become a dominant part of the venuesing collection. You can find
these products including sweaters, polos, quarter zips, trousers, and even the
best of fashion has to be preserved. I don't know if I ever mentioned
to you the advent of the men's necktie. There's nothing better in a men's
necktie business than the business lunch, because guys would go out, they'd have
their lunch that have their salads or their beef and potatoes, and snow stout
about it. They would always stain their die and therefore the business grew and
grew. Venues and today doesn't want to make money on your hardships. They
want to do it and prevent you from having to go through that. And
they invented stain Shield. It's the technology that was invented to protect your favorite
items. The stain Shield collection provides extreme defense against water based stains by causing
spills to beat up before they can be absorbed into the fabric. This collection,
by the way, in addition to regular fits, is also often in
all body sizes, including big and tall. You can find News and Stainshield
and the Great venues in style sports were at vanues in dot com. That's
vanusin dot com. As one of the world's most celebrated fashion designers, Carl
Lagafeld was renowned for his aspirational and cutting edge approach to style. His unique
vision of parisianshit comes to America through car Lagofeld Paris. He has women's collections,
men's collections, ready to wear, accessory, shoes and bags. The
fashion house Carlagofeld also offers a range of watches, I wear and premium fragrances.
You can explore the car lagofl collection at car Lagofelparis dot com. But
it's more than that. I have, for one, love to shop.
I love going around and seeing what's happening and what catches my attention, what
would make me feel good to wear now. I don't wear the women's wear
obviously, but I can appreciate it and they look amazing. If you want
to look right, you want to have clothes that fits you well. You
want to look like you're wearing something that's very expensive, that's exclusive for you
and yours. You can find at very affordable prices at Macy's Orcarlagofel dot com
Paris. The women's ready to wear fashion is extraordinary, as well as the
handbigs and the shoes. I, for one, wear men's clothes, unlike
my appreciation of women's clothes. I'm a modern guy. I want to look
current. I want to look the way I want to feel. I go
out at night, I'm in black and Carlagafel is my buddy. Calls are
great, They fit great, and they have little tweaks and touches, whether
it's a stripe on the sleeve or button at the neck or on the shoulder.
There's a lot of details that go into Carlagafel because he's always been.
He always had been one of the world's great designers, and this legacy and
goes on and on. I can't speak enough about it except to say to
you, you want to feel good about yourself. You want to know that
you're dressing properly. You want to clothes that fits you well. Carl Lagafeld,
Paris at Macy's Orcarlagafel dot com. Welcome back to it Always in Fashion.
Here's your host, Mark Webber. When I think about this show called
Always in Fashion, we really never talk about fashion, or maybe I'll talk
for a few minutes every show. It's really a show that rooted in business,
and where fashion comes into play is I had a corporate career in the
fashion and luxury retail industry, and the examples and lessons that I learned apply
to life in any industry for that matter, and I often talk about it.
After two years of hammering home the concept that Always in Fashion was a
business show, because I was concerned that when people saw the name of fashion,
they would tune out if they weren't in fashion. Because I wanted to
talk to truck drivers. I wanted to talk to people driving their cars.
I wanted to talk to people everywhere, particularly on radio at the time and
now on podcast I felt it was limiting, but nonetheless we invested in the
time and effort and always in fashion and won't behold. One day I realized
that on podcasts, Apple and Spotify categorized us as lifestyle and cultural, and
with that backdrop, we started covering more subjects as we did tonight, on
the issues of the day, current events, on politics, when need be,
on people and places, and on things and lessons, and even fashion
tonight and the theme of tonight's show was after tomorrow. Friend of mine coming
from Europe, made a statement to me about we'll talk after tomorrow, We'll
be together after tomorrow. It'll be a nice time. We haven't seen each
other, will catch up, and it bothered me. I don't like the
concept of living for tomorrow. I like living for today. I don't know
about you, but I don't believe in reincarnation. I'd love to love to
believe I'm coming back, me younger, smarter, but you know, unless
you're coming back, you're not getting another chance of this life. And you
really would enjoy the moments that we live while we're living in them, and
not wait for after tomorrow, and that was tonight's show. I hope you
enjoyed it tonight, and those of you who are listening on podcasts well after
tomorrow. Good night,