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This show is produced and hosted by
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sponsor and not necessarily the opinion of
seven tenor or iHeartMedia. Who is Mark

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Weber. He's a self made business
executive here to help you find your success,

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from the New York City projects to
the Avenue Montaigne in Paris. His

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global success story in the luxury world
of fashion is inspirational. He's gone from

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clerk to CEO twice. Mark is
classic proof that the American dream is alive

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and well, here's your host of
Always in Fashion, Mark Weber. Mark

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Weber. I hate looking forward,
particularly looking forward to the future. I

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want today, whether a day or
a year. I don't like planning anything

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actually, let alone for down the
road. It's day. It's precious.

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I want to enjoy the moment,
enjoy the outcomes. Time is precious.

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Time is the one commodity or lore
of nature that cannot replenish itself. The

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past is the past, The future
is every second I'm talking with you.

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The Moody Blues album Days of Future
Past clever blurring of time, looking backward,

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memories, beautiful. I want to
celebrate, but the next memories are

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right now, and I want to
make them. I don't have any desire

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to rush life. It's moving at
an incredible pace already. I'm appreciative for

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living in the moment. You can't
reminisce about the future. It will happen

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when it happens. Yes, I
am realistically enjoying and appreciating the sun rising

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and the sun's setting, the rain
or the sunshine, the hot or the

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cold, to be busy or not
annoyed or satisfied. I like living in

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the present. I like being the
center of attention or as a reclusive guy

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left alone to my own devices.
I can take comments constructively, but barely

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prefer and always prefer my own case. There's the truth or a version of

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the truth. But no matter what, I hate wasting time. Worse,

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I hate waiting and rushing for tomorrow. I prefer to live in the moment

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after tomorrow. A buddy of mine
said to me that simple statement. It

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made me thinking. After tomorrow got
me thinking about what's important after tomorrow.

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What is it? It's a reservation
in time, a promise I will not

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put off today for tomorrow. I
will not throw away a minute fund for

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another time. I'm living for today
until tomorrow. Hastameniana. After tomorrow not

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my thing, unless, of course, after tomorrow is something really special.

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It's coming with a cherry on top
tonight. I'm living in the moment,

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wondering about after tomorrow. Now speaking
time, the busy, busy, busy,

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busy, busy, busy co host. I've always in fashion, my

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lawyer and my son, Jesse Weber. Jesse, nice of you to stop

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by tonight. What have you missed
the last three or four weeks? Hey?

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What do you want from me?
All Right, It's not like this

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is intentional. I'm swamped. I
am drowning in work. I don't have

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enough time to do three things in
one hour. So you know what,

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I want to be here. I
love hosting with you, It's one of

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my favorite things. But I'm on
TV. I'm hosting TV shows. I'm

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on News Nation. You know what
I did? I host like four times

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on News Nation last week. I'm
hosting a long crime every day. I'm

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not saying this show is not important. I want that to be clear.

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I love being on it, but
I have a full time career and TV

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radio. I have conflicts. I
have conflicts. I try to make it

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work. You have more of a
specific schedule than I do. You give

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me a like an hour two hours
to do something. It's hard for me

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to do it. You may prefer
TV, and I get it, but

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we're also podcast, Apple, Spotify, iHeart, I get it. I

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get it. What would you have
me do when I have a conflict,

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when I have interviews, when I
have things like TV TV No Question and

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by the way, I do a
podcast called Sidebar that's on YouTube, and

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sometimes those interviews get scheduled right in
the middle of our show. So I'm

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sorry that I couldn't be on with
you. I'm sorry to the audience that

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I couldn't be there with all of
you. I miss being here with you.

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I always want to do it,
and I always asked what should I

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do? I don't know. You
are doing what you should do. In

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business, there are always decisions in
trade offs. TV's the right move.

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Having said that, what's so important, mister smarty pants. Smarty pants,

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let's say what is a quote that
hasn't been used since nineteen thirty This I

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leave you for two weeks, and
this is what happens. You start using

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this. Well, look, there's
a lot going on. One of the

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biggest things that I've been covering is
all the Ditty news, the Sean Ditty

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Combs news. And you know,
I'm just curious to talk to you about

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this. Why. Really, what
I'm talking about is that horrific video that

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was published by CNN where it's basically
Sean Dittycomb's allegedly beating his ex girlfriend.

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It's terry. You have to say
ALLEGI because you're their attorney. I got

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to say I was in his camp. My frame of reference was Sean Diddy.

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He came to see me Sean Combs
as a businessman to businessman asking for

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help on his peril business because he
wanted to make sure his children had a

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legacy of a business they could run
if they're not rap singers. And he

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was being realistic, and I saw
him as a family man, as a

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father and a good guy. After
that video, you gotta think twice of

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I think twice. Let me ask
you a question, if you were running

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a company and he wanted to do
business with you, would you do business

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with him after that? You know, that's a complicated question in today's world.

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You know, if I did business
with people I liked, I'd be

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alone all the time. And I'm
not really sure how I would answer the

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question. If you're asking me seriously, I would have hesitation guy with a

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temper like that, a guy who
didn't respect women. From that perspective,

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yeah, how can you possibly do
business with him? Well? I sometimes

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wonder about the blurring that takes place
with business and personal life. Well,

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well, wait a second, hold
on, you might have a hesitation to

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do business with him if the video
was blurry and you couldn't tell what was

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going on, the fact that that
video was so clear should make your decision

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very easy a from an ethical point
of view, but be from a purely

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business point of view. Who is
going to want to buy products associated with

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Diddy right now? Well, there's
no hesitation. You're asking me a different,

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a different question. Decision would you
do? If you're asking me,

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would I do any business with him
with his name involved and his brand on

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there? No? How can you? Nobody would support that? Right?

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So then what's the other avenue?
I'm not quite sure I have one,

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to tell you the truth, it's
just something that it bothers me, blurring

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the lines between business and life it
may be wrong. I am. I'm

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the first to admit it. I
haven't given him much thought. Well,

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what did you feel I've ever done
with celebrities or living people, always has

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morality clauses in it. And if
he got caught in that video doing that

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and he was on our payroll,
he'd be fired instantly, no question.

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I wouldn't have a second thought if
you had any hesitation the fact that he

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made an apology video admitting it was
him. What did you think of the

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apology video? Because I have to
tell you, from a PR point of

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view, it was awful and from
a legal point of view, made absolutely

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no sense. He is still possibly
under federal investigation. Why is he releasing

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a video basically admitting that was him
on the tape? Well, timeout,

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he didn't release the video, no, no, no, no. He

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released an apology video on Instagram.
The apology video. You're saying it was

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bad from a PR review, I
haven't a legal point of view. From

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a legal point of view, he
apologized for his behavior. He essentially admitting

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that it's him in the video.
But he shouldn't have released that his lawyership,

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Well, you're the lawyer again,
I don't know that he was trying

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to get it behind him, and
he admitted that he went for counseling,

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he went in therapy. He apologized
it was sincere but since here he's under

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possible federal investigation right now for sex
trafficking, where you're forcing people to do

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things against their will, threats of
physical violence, using physical violence. There's

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a tape. Now he's admitting that's
him doing that. That's a key piece

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of evidence that could be used in
a case against him. And he's admitted

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to Tim, Well, you're the
lawyer, Okay. I got to make

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my position clear. You asked me
a question, when you hire him for

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business? I say, sometimes business
and personal will get blurred. I might

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be wrong now, I'll admit it. But after seeing that, my supporting

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of him, my giving him the
benefit of the doubt, is gone.

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He's a dirt bag. There's no
excuse for that behavior. And whatever's going

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to happen him from a federal point
of view, they're going to find out.

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But clearly his behavior was reprehensible.
Now do I forgive him? Does

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she forgive him? By the way, No, she does not forgive him.

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And even though she filed a lawsuit
against him, back in November.

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She settled with him the next day. When she settled with him, she

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made it clear that she's not absolving
him of everything. She said, this

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is all true what I said,
but we decided to resolve it amicably.

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After the video was released and after
his apology, she released the statement actually

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saying, I wish it didn't have
to take the release of this video for

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people to believe my side of the
story about what happened. And right after

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this video and after the apology,
he got sued again by somebody else,

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which I thought was gonna happen.
That happens a lot, I know.

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One it was crazy, as bad
as it was, As bad as it

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was. When he kicked her in
the face when she was down, that

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was insane. And then when he
was dragging her but she was out,

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that's insane. Who can believe any
word that comes out of his mouth?

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Now, that's a thug behaving.
It was disgusting, disgusting to see.

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I wonder if it's truthful that he
did go into therapy and he did go

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into rehab right after that. I
would love you know what you know,

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you know why that feels a little
disingenuous. I take responsibility. I accept

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what I did. First of all, he's accused of buying the footage from

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the hotel, so it wouldn't get
released. Put that to a side.

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If he really felt so bad about
it. Number two, if he really

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felt so bad about it, there
was a three year statute of limitations in

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California for an assault charge. He
made sure that that expired and no evidence

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came out. He could have gone
to police if he really felt bad,

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said you know, I did something
wrong here. I want to own up

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to it. Here's the footage,
here's what I did. He kept it

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quiet, and now he only comes
out apologizing it because he knows he can't

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be prosecuted for it in California.
The DA's office said, this has happened

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in twenty sixteen. You're gonna blame
him for live using the law in his

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favor. I wouldn't do that.
No. Is it really unusual or you

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anybody surprised that after the video came
out he actually apologized. What I want

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to know is did he go into
therapy right after that happened, like he

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said he did. That would be
important to the entirety of the case.

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By the way, just because this
happened. It doesn't make everything else true.

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That's clear, But the allegations against
him in other lawsuits said there was

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conduct behavior after twenty sixteen. So
how much did this therapy or when he

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went in that really helped. It's
a question that we have to ask.

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Yeah, Well, if you want
to discuss the video I think we covered

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at dirt Bag, you want to
discuss his apology. All I want to

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know is is true he went into
therapy and counselor if he did, then

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it tends to make the apology more
legitimate. Now all the other offenses and

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all the other things that he's being
accused of, each one will take its

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own course of action, but it
certainly doesn't help his case. The way

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you got him on video. Well, I think we pretty much talked about

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did he There's been another big,
high profile person in the news, Donald

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Trump. His criminal trial out in
New York is about to come to a

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close next week, closing arguments,
possible verdict. Have you been following it

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at all? I have, And
there is a former legal guy who spoke

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to Michael Kohne and completely testified differently
to what Michael Cohne has said. Have

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you seen that one. Is that
about. You're talking about Robert Costello,

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who at once this point was representing
Michael Cohen. Now here's the problem with

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Robert Costello. Okay, this came
at the end of the prosecution's case.

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Now, I will tell you from
a legal point of view, I don't

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know if the prosecution really proved their
case. I didn't think the defense,

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meaning Donald Trump, even needed to
put on a case. They could have

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done enough to raise reasonable doubt.
They said, you know what, No,

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we're gonna call Robert Costello because we're
gonna try to show how Michael Cohen

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is a liar, right, and
Michael Cohen's an important witness for the prosecution.

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He basically said Donald Trump knew about
these illegal payments, he approved these

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illegal payments, he had the criminal
intent, blah blah blah. So Robert

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Costello comes on the stand and he
says, yeah, I represented Michael Cohen

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at one point I was talking to
him, and he's a liar. He

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came up to me and told me
I have no dirt on Trump. I

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can't say Donald Trump did anything.
He didn't know about the payments. Now

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he's testifying to this jury and saying
something else. So a part of me

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is thinking, Wow, what a
great witness for the defense. Right turns

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out Robert Costello got into a fight
with the judge. Now a lot of

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it wasn't seen by the jury,
but there was a part of it where

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there was reporting that two jurors looked
at each other by the way that Robert

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Costello was behaving on the stand,
and he was very combative with the prosecutor,

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and he was a little obnoxious.
But what happened outside the presence of

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the jury. The judge had to
excuse the whole courtroom and say to this

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Robert Costelle, I have a problem
with your demeanor. And as he's talking

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to him about his behavior in court, according to the transcript, the judge

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said to Robert Costello, are you
trying to stare me down right now?

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And then excused all the reporters out
of the courtroom, had a private conversation

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with him, brought the jury and
the reporters back in. That's not who

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you want in your camp. That
doesn't look good for the court. That

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doesn't look good. But what about
what he said that he has Michael Clones

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saying, Wow, Donald Trump didn't
do anything. It's all on him.

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Donald didn't know. So the problem
is Robert Costell also said I never pressured

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him to protect Donald Trump. I
never pressured him to say, Look,

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if you turn on Donald Trump,
you're being in trouble. Well, then

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the prosecution kind of came out with
all of these emails from Robert Costello that

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would say something otherwise, that tried
to say he was putting pressure on Michael

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Cowen. So he had really serious
credibility issues. It doesn't take away from

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Michael Cohen's credibility issues because Michael Cohen
on the stand admitted that he lied stole

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from Donald Trump, and it has
a financial interest in whether or not Donald

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Trump is convicted or not. So
the jury can look at him and say,

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we already have our issues with him. But the defense might have hurt

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themselves by calling mister Costello, I
didn't know that he admitted he stole from

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Donald Trump. What do you steal? So he said that he was paid

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a certain amount of money and part
of that money was supposed to be paid

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to a third party, and he
ended up not paying that full amount to

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the third party but just pocketed at
thirty thousand dollars himself. His theory was,

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Yeah, Donald Trump's people, they
didn't pay me enough. I was

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felt I was basically entitled to a
bonus. So you have your stars.

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He stole the money from the defendant. He admitted to lying to Congress,

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to investigators. He is a very
problematic witness. And why he was called

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as the last witness for the prosecution
because they knew he had credibility issues.

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Hey, could Michael con end get
up in jail being sued by Donald Trump

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is stealing from him? Well,
you sue somebody, They're not going to

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end up in jail. If you're
talking about whether or not he could be

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prosecuted for it, No, two
reasons. One, I would say the

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statue limitations, the time limit is
expired. But number two, Michael Cohen

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said he met with prosecutors the past
year twenty times. You don't think they

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know about what happened here. You
think they made a deal with him.

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We're not going to prosecute you for
this. As long as you testify against

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Donald Trump, no chance. So
he could do whatever he wants. As

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long as he testifies, he's free. Well, I mean do whatever he

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wants. He hasn't. He's got
a fall from Grace. He went to

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prison, but right now he's testifying
against Donald Trump. He's made a living

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off of going after Donald Trump.
He's expressed that to the jury, so

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he's got credibility issues. But we'll
see what happens. I think this is

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a bit of a struggle. There's
a chance that the jury might be deadlocked

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and we might see a hung jury. I think it's going to be tough

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to get all the jurors to agree
one way or another on this case.

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Well, I see why you're busy. It's, first of all, on

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top of everything else, it's incredibly
hard to understand and to even explain,

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which is what you have to do. I'll tell you one thing tonight.

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You know, we're talking about not
tomorrow but today. These guys, there

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are a bunch of guys who wish
they treated their past yesterday differently. But

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that as a backdrop. Thanks for
being here today, Jesse. It's great

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you're back with me. We're going
to take a break and when we come

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back, let's talk about never put
off tomorrow what you can do today.

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My company at one time bought that
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it to me and said, you
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everything in my career to make ISOD
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that brand, and to this day
it is one of the most exciting endeavors

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I've ever got involved. With ISOD
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great polo shirts. I mean great. They're fit perfect. The material is

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made of blend of cotton and microfiber
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often they are treated with solar protection
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tell you Isaad makes great shorts and
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ISAOD is the brand for you.
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was created. The strategy behind that
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favorite brands. While I talk about
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great polo shirts with logos without logos, incredible brand and story and history.

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is affordable. Everyone listening to me
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it and know that there are a
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look like Io. Although I don't
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brand has a lot of energy in
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I'm very happy spring in summer,
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you were eyesight, you're going to
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fashion. Here's your host, Mark
Webber After tomorrow. Buddy of mine used

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that term with me and it got
me thinking about the whole concept of living

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for today, and that's what we're
doing tonight. Now. I have some

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great stories, one in particular I
have to share with you about my career

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before we go to Justin. You
gotta regrets in life. I do have

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a regret. My regret is that
I didn't start this career that I'm on

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earlier. I don't know if that
meant maybe not going to law school.

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I love law school, but maybe
not practicing for several years and you know,

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doing other things. I think I
should have started this career in Broadcastinger,

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Yeah, I regret. So you
when you do something intentionally and you

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don't want to do them, that's
not a regret. You had to learn

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along the way. You did nothing
wrong. How did you know you'd end

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up knowing how to do this and
you'd like it and love it. Without

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the Lord agree, you wouldn't be
doing this. That's fair then me?

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Yeah, how about you? You
know? For me, the only thing

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I could really think of, Wow, there's a few things I look,

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I was married to your mom for
a long time she passed away. I

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wish I would have known she was
going to have a problem, and I

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would have been different. We would
have spent more time. But you can't

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look back in life that way.
It's a regret. Sure, it's a

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regret she's not here, but you
can't do anything about it. I did

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have a regret in my business life
that I want to talk about, and

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again I'm not sure whether there's anything
differently I could have done. You see,

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after tomorrow we're talking about today.
It speaks of waiting. And one

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of my greatest disappointments in my business
career surrounds the decision on waiting, and

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it wasn't even my decision. And
this takes place in my early days of

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joining LVMH Louis Vitan Moha Hennessy.
Truth be told, I had just joined

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the group, but I quickly wanted
to make a name for myself. From

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the first time in my life,
I went from being an American executive representing

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an American company to an American businessman
representing a European company, a French luxury

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conglomerate. It was very different,
and I really wanted to come out strong,

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and I was giving a thought,
and I would tell you why they

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knew me. I was vetted as
if it was the FBI or the CIA.

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I was an American recruit for LVMH, and they went and did a

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background check the likes of which you
can't imagine. Now having said it,

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I joined the company. I hadn't
proven anything yet, so I had no

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track record. And again, for
the purpose of the story, I want

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to tell you, most importantly,
the truth be told. I didn't understand

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the LVMH Group's brand management philosophies.
I didn't understand how they varied companies interreacted,

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how the executives from one company dealt
with one of the executives another,

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namely, what was their operating manual
on individual brands and on the corporation.

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I didn't have a clue. I
didn't know if any of my ideas would

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be shocked to their system. And
in hindsight, when I think about what

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I'm about to say, I never
even considered at the time that what I

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was suggesting could be counter or wrong
fit for the LVMH culture. However,

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my idea, though can be voided
in my lack of understanding European culture and

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the LVMH operating system. But it
was simply elegant and brilliant, and after

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tomorrow is what I got. I
joined LVMH chefter thirty year incredible history with

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one of the world's most successful apparel
companies and the largest purveyor of dress shirts

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for men in the world. They
had brands including c K, Covin Kline,

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Tommy Hillfire venues in great industry.
After all, let's not forget we

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all need clothes, so apparel is
always going to be in our lives,

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and companies that execute well do very
well. Back to LVMH. So here

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I am. I'm vetted, I
go and trained. I'm ready to go.

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I'm ready to run with no background
to speak of on the INNI and

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workings of the LVMH group. But
I have an idea. I also know

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no one can get in the way
of an idea whose time has come.

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And I was very confident as a
guy and very confident in my skill set,

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very confident what I wanted to do
now. I had assignments as the

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CEO of LVMH inc. I was
the chairman and CEO of the Donna Karen

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Company, and while I oversaw the
global expanse. I also oversaw the global

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expansion of the luxury British shirtmaker Thomas
Pink of Germany Street in London. But

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truth be told, there wasn't enough
for me. I always had big ideas

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in my former life. I was
a corporate guys in a CEO, I

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can make decisions, and as a
member of LVMH, I was in complete

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control over my areas of responsibility,
naming Donna, Karen or Tom must think

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and of course what does that really
mean. It means you do what you

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think is best for the company.
You always keep in close enough contact so

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that the management back in France would
know what you're doing. In Paris.

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They always understood what my idea as
well my strategy was, and there were

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no surprises. But I realized that
the breadth of brands and designers in the

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LVMAGE group each had their own CEOs
or presidents, and they all had something

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to say. These guys like me
in my area's responsibility or CEOs, we

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are powerful and proud and in control
of the events that we had in our

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own individual companies. But I realized
I was not in control of the events

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I had in mind see at LVMH. I did report to the manager director.

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Here in the United States, we'd
call him the president, number two

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guy in the company, in this
case number two to Bernard Orneau, the

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founder and CEO. So I had
clout if I needed it. But enough

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with the chessboard, the titles,
the reporting structures, the idea. The

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men's wear business is huge, it's
global, it's highly predictable. It's unlike

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women's wear and women's wear today women
wearing tight pants. Tomorrow they may all

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be upsolete and everything is now wide
pants changes any day. That's fashion in

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the women's business. Very trendy changes
men's wear where creatures of habit things don't

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change. Let me tweak that a
bit. They might change, Yes,

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the style may change maybe maybe sometime, but not really very often. And

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the key to the men's business,
it's very predictable. You know what you're

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going to wear, and you understand
where the money is made. If you

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take men's dress, shirt's fifty percent
twenty years ago is white, fifty percent

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now is white. It doesn't change. There's always a few patterns, a

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few stripes. I could point to
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which ones will sell them want do. But men's in general's risk adverse.

406
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It's very very predictable, and fashion
is a lesser component now my career.

407
00:28:08.519 --> 00:28:11.839
Back to the idea. One thing
I know is how to make money.

408
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You make money and shirts, sweaters, knit shirts, and pants, basic

409
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fashion, simple things that we all
wear. Pair of jeans, para,

410
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khaki pants, white shirt, a
polo shirt, a sweater or a blazer.

411
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Never changed. I don't know if
you know got there. Those are

412
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who are interested in the business that
you sell four tops, whether shirt,

413
00:28:33.160 --> 00:28:37.200
sweat or whatever, every pair of
pants that's sold. So the top's business

414
00:28:37.279 --> 00:28:40.960
is much bigger than the bottomser's.
And then there's the eighty twenty rule,

415
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which is always there in men's clothes. Eighty percent of the offering is for

416
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statement, twenty percent of the offerings, Well, you need to invest because

417
00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:55.279
one hundred percent of the business comes
from twenty percent of your ideas, twenty

418
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percent of your inventory. Give you
an example, twenty percent of the make

419
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the money. And those colors never
change. Back to the white treasure.

420
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Fifty percent is white, twenty percent
is blue, thirty percent is the balance

421
00:29:08.039 --> 00:29:12.160
of simple colors. It's all predictable. You have color styles and men shirt

422
00:29:12.480 --> 00:29:17.079
two of the ten. We'll drive
all the business, the eight, the

423
00:29:17.160 --> 00:29:18.960
round collar, the point colors,
and that all that stuff is done for

424
00:29:19.079 --> 00:29:23.400
show. Now. I don't know
if I'm smart, but I know I'm

425
00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:29.839
well trained, and this guy me
was brilliantly trained, and on top of

426
00:29:29.880 --> 00:29:33.839
which, I was a menswear expert. My idea, I'm working for the

427
00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:38.359
group. I'm running their operations,
legal, human resources, real estate.

428
00:29:38.440 --> 00:29:41.200
I'm running down to Karen Thomas pink. But that's not enough for me.

429
00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:45.759
I had a different idea. In
my former company, we had a design

430
00:29:45.759 --> 00:29:48.880
a shirt business, and that shirt
business was made up of Calvin Klein,

431
00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:52.279
Tommy Hifley and DK Why And if
I tell you the business was huge,

432
00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:57.920
it was beyond belief and such a
profit maker was unbelievable. I wanted to

433
00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:04.000
start a ends designer shirt business for
luxury brands. I knew it could be

434
00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:10.519
usually profitable if PDH could build a
juggernaut with those brands that I just mentioned,

435
00:30:10.519 --> 00:30:15.160
could you imagine what I could do
with LVMH brands. Think about this

436
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:21.920
Louis Vuitton dress shirt with the logo
interconnecting LV. I, for one,

437
00:30:22.240 --> 00:30:26.279
saw the opportunity is bigger than life, and I could see the biggest luxury

438
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:30.400
stores in the world fighting for it. I wanted to create a bidding wharf

439
00:30:30.400 --> 00:30:34.200
for the rights to sell Louis Vuitton
dress shirt between Bergdorf's, Kneveh and Sacks.

440
00:30:34.200 --> 00:30:37.759
All three of them would fight like
crazy. They would trip all over

441
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:41.319
it, and I would give the
criteria for being an elviria Louis Vton dress

442
00:30:41.359 --> 00:30:47.440
shirt opportunity. You have to build
a dedicated shirt shop for me. It

443
00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:51.240
might include only Louis Vuitton, but
it might include my other brands. I

444
00:30:51.240 --> 00:30:53.079
will tell you where it will sit
in your store, and I will tell

445
00:30:53.119 --> 00:30:59.000
you you never ever ever put that
brand on sale. If you have inventory

446
00:30:59.039 --> 00:31:00.960
that's on sold, we'll talk about
what to do with it. But you're

447
00:31:02.000 --> 00:31:04.599
not going to have sales on my
product. Now, I got it.

448
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:10.839
I need alignment with the brand presidents, but this opportunity was huge. I

449
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:17.039
love to be in the driver's seat
seeing these prestigious retails fighting for the chance.

450
00:31:17.599 --> 00:31:19.960
I can dream, can I.
I also thought it this way.

451
00:31:21.559 --> 00:31:26.119
I hoped LVMH would make it clear
that when I showed up and those stores

452
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:30.079
and I said them, look,
I'm building a luxury shirt coman. It's

453
00:31:30.119 --> 00:31:33.200
going to consist of five or six
brands within our group, most notably LV

454
00:31:33.400 --> 00:31:38.160
Louis Vuitton. I wanted LVH to
back me up, and anybody who refused

455
00:31:38.160 --> 00:31:41.880
me building a shop of my shirts, LV would come in and say,

456
00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:45.599
if you don't put in those shirt
chops, I'm pulling my handbags out of

457
00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:52.279
your store and opening a Louis Vuitton
store right next to you. I can

458
00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:56.400
dream, can I now? Just
to make the point, knitwear, knit

459
00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:01.759
shirts and sweaters is similar. Opportunity
company would have a knitwear version. Could

460
00:32:01.799 --> 00:32:07.440
you imagine how predictable knitwear? Every
knit shirt you see right now is either

461
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:13.000
a polo or a zip mock,
or turtleneck or a cardigan. Did you

462
00:32:13.240 --> 00:32:17.799
ever notice how big the Ralph Lauren
polo pony's shirt really is. It's everywhere.

463
00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:22.559
That shirt is like having a bank
account. You put the money in

464
00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:27.720
the inventory OF's shirt and it keeps
selling forever, forever and ever. Can

465
00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:34.400
you imagine setting up a luxury shop
of Louis Vuitton polo shirts with the LVY

466
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:37.119
logo. It would be amazing.
There's not a golfer in the world.

467
00:32:37.160 --> 00:32:40.480
There's not a guy in the world
who could afford it, would have the

468
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:45.319
courage not to buy it. They
don't want it, even though it's it's

469
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:47.799
a five hundred dollars seven hundred and
fifty dollars. It wouldn't matter what it

470
00:32:47.880 --> 00:32:52.200
costs. People want it. After
all, handbags and suitcases begin at two

471
00:32:52.200 --> 00:32:57.240
thousand dollars in Alvy and go to
ten thousand. Huge. If you had

472
00:32:57.240 --> 00:33:00.000
a Cashmeer sweater and a V neck
and crew anywhere from a thousand to three

473
00:33:00.039 --> 00:33:05.599
thousand dollars, it would be amazing. And then of course you bring in

474
00:33:05.680 --> 00:33:08.440
the black and a modern view of
Dior or Givon she or Celine, it

475
00:33:08.440 --> 00:33:14.440
would be priceless. I could picture
women's wear daily the headline. Mark Webber

476
00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:17.440
creates a brilliant men's who wear business
for the Elvly Image group. Mark Weber

477
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:21.839
has always had big ideas, and
he said in his book Always in Fashion

478
00:33:21.920 --> 00:33:24.200
once in my life I was brilliant. Well can now say it for him?

479
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:31.480
No? Mark, not once twice? I can dream? Can I

480
00:33:31.599 --> 00:33:35.559
what an idea? I was so
happy, so excited to do this.

481
00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:37.319
The group, I'm sure never thought
about it, and even if they did,

482
00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:40.000
they wouldn't know how to execute it. And I would. Now you

483
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:45.880
may ask where are those shirt shops? Right now, I'll tell you where

484
00:33:45.920 --> 00:33:51.880
they are nowhere. I was told
after I had a plan to revolutionize shirt,

485
00:33:52.200 --> 00:33:55.599
to change the world of shirts forever, to build a luxury concept that

486
00:33:55.720 --> 00:34:01.759
no one ever had for I was
told the follow Yes, Mark, it

487
00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:07.159
may be a brilliant idea, but
before you try to present new ideas to

488
00:34:07.239 --> 00:34:13.960
the group, you have to learn
the culture of our European business, our

489
00:34:14.079 --> 00:34:19.199
history and strategies. We don't think
like American companies. We have our own

490
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:24.480
culture. Furthermore, you have agreed
to deliver the Donna Karen Company to profitability

491
00:34:24.519 --> 00:34:30.920
for the sake of the LVMH Group. This is a major undertaking. We've

492
00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:35.719
had three CEOs in the last six
years who have tried. No one did.

493
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:38.079
No one made it profitable to the
degree that we hired you to do.

494
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:43.559
So you have plenty to do.
Once again, my advice is takes

495
00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:51.599
some time and we'll discuss your idea
of luxury shirts after tomorrow. I immediately

496
00:34:52.079 --> 00:34:53.920
thought of The Godfather Part three.
That's what I do, and I think

497
00:34:53.920 --> 00:34:58.920
of movies and life. I love
it. Michael Corleone. Godfather Part three

498
00:34:59.039 --> 00:35:04.039
is trying to purchase a large Italian
based conglomerate for the Collone family when he

499
00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:07.760
was told by the chairman of the
board of a mobilare and he said,

500
00:35:08.119 --> 00:35:14.760
a mobile Lobbery is a magnificent company
built in the European tradition, all our

501
00:35:14.800 --> 00:35:20.000
ships must sail in the same direction. Now, I'm no godfather, but

502
00:35:20.079 --> 00:35:23.519
I did have a great idea and
it never happened. Probably didn't make sense,

503
00:35:23.599 --> 00:35:28.159
I don't know, but I was
still willing to put my career and

504
00:35:28.239 --> 00:35:30.320
future on the line, and to
tell you the truth, I still would

505
00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:35.800
now. And all I can say
is, after tomorrow, maybe they'll tune

506
00:35:35.840 --> 00:35:39.199
in, maybe they'll hear the show. And remember twice in my life I

507
00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:45.880
was brilliant after tomorrow. A business
regret always in fashion. I spent a

508
00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:52.320
lifetime of my career building the van
usen Brandt and I am so pleased that

509
00:35:52.320 --> 00:35:58.320
they're back with us now talking about
suits. Men were dressing up again and

510
00:35:58.360 --> 00:36:01.639
it's become cool to wear a suit. Suits can be won on multiple occasions

511
00:36:01.639 --> 00:36:06.480
in multiple ways. You could wear
a suit formally to go out at night

512
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:08.679
or to an event. You wear
a suit to the office with or without

513
00:36:08.679 --> 00:36:14.039
a tie. If you look closely. Now fashion trends suits are being worn

514
00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:20.000
with turtlenecks or mack next. The
choices are endless and every one of them

515
00:36:20.320 --> 00:36:24.599
looks right. You could really really
look the part. I believe that packaging

516
00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:29.480
yourself is as important does the products
you package, and wearing a suit is

517
00:36:29.480 --> 00:36:34.400
one of those things that make men
look their best. Venues In invented a

518
00:36:34.480 --> 00:36:38.239
new idea. It's called the cool
Flex suit. It's been engineered with stretch

519
00:36:38.360 --> 00:36:44.639
technology, giving you the most comfortable
fit and mobility. Its wrinkle resistant fabric,

520
00:36:44.679 --> 00:36:47.719
it's cool moisture wiki. It makes
it perfect for all occasions. As

521
00:36:47.800 --> 00:36:52.920
we discussed just now, this new
style of looking sharp while feeling cool and

522
00:36:52.960 --> 00:36:59.480
comfortable is amazing, and I'm so
excited that the ven using company is involved

523
00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:04.960
in this new technology and is embracing
the whole idea of dressing up. Let's

524
00:37:04.960 --> 00:37:07.840
not forget van Usen made its name
with dress shirts. It's only proper that

525
00:37:07.920 --> 00:37:14.280
the suit business follows strongly in its
way. You can find van using Koolflex

526
00:37:14.400 --> 00:37:20.400
Men's stretch suits at jcpenny or online
at jcpenny dot com. Guys, they're

527
00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:22.719
great. You should go look at
them. DK and why Donna Karen,

528
00:37:22.719 --> 00:37:28.840
New York. Donna Karen began her
career as one of the finest, most

529
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:35.199
successful, powerful women in the fashion
industry. She developed a collection aimed at

530
00:37:35.280 --> 00:37:38.360
the luxury market for women on the
go, women who were powerful in their

531
00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:43.920
workplace, women who had lives that
extended beyond the workplace, and her clothes

532
00:37:44.280 --> 00:37:47.800
went from day and to night.
An extraordinary collection. But the interesting thing

533
00:37:49.280 --> 00:37:52.599
Donna Karen had a young daughter,
and she had friends and they couldn't afford

534
00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:57.480
to buy the Donna Karen collection,
and Donna invented dk Andy Donna Karen,

535
00:37:57.519 --> 00:38:00.960
New York. It's an offshoot of
the Donna Karen collection. The same concept

536
00:38:01.079 --> 00:38:05.400
a lifestyle brand. Then we talk
about lifestyle brands, What does that really

537
00:38:05.440 --> 00:38:08.559
mean? Simply what they say,
there are brands that follow you throughout your

538
00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:12.519
lifestyle. You get up in the
morning, you start to get dressed.

539
00:38:12.519 --> 00:38:15.639
Donn A Karen dcaan why as intimate
apparel, as hosiery, as all those

540
00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:21.320
products. You're getting dressed for work. You get accessorized shoes, handbags,

541
00:38:21.480 --> 00:38:23.920
and it takes you through the day. The remarkable thing about DK and Y

542
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:29.199
clothes for work, they work into
the evening the dresses, the suits,

543
00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:35.559
the pants, the sweaters, the
blouses, extraordinary clothes at affordable prices that

544
00:38:35.679 --> 00:38:38.639
go from day in tonight. Part
of your lifestyle is active. You have

545
00:38:38.679 --> 00:38:45.000
weekends, you have events, you
participate in sports. Donna Karen's Casual Clothes

546
00:38:45.239 --> 00:38:50.840
did that under the DKNY label.
A vast array of casual sports that make

547
00:38:51.039 --> 00:38:55.559
women look great as they navigate their
busy lives. Whether you're going to soccer

548
00:38:55.639 --> 00:39:00.400
games for your children, or whether
you're going out to the movies, whatever

549
00:39:00.440 --> 00:39:05.920
you want to do, dkn Y
Jenes dk Y Sportswear is there for you.

550
00:39:06.199 --> 00:39:10.400
That's what a lifestyle brand is.
And I need to mention DKY Activewear,

551
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:15.920
which is extraordinary, the leggings,
the sports bras, the sweats.

552
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:22.360
You can wear DKY Activewear certainly in
the gym, certainly when you're working out

553
00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:25.159
at home, and certainly if you
want on the street, because it's that

554
00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:30.119
well done. The quality of dk
why is nothing short of exceptional. And

555
00:39:30.119 --> 00:39:35.440
why shouldn't it be because it was
born from the idea of luxury made affordable

556
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:40.400
for women of America. Dk and
Why a true lifestyle brand that takes you

557
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:45.559
from day and tonight, from the
week into the weekend. DCN why you

558
00:39:45.599 --> 00:39:53.000
can find DCNY and Macy's DKY dot
com. Welcome back to Always in Fashion.

559
00:39:53.239 --> 00:39:59.719
Here's your host, Mark Webber.
I hate looking forward, particularly the

560
00:39:59.760 --> 00:40:04.719
few. I don't want to waste
a minute. I want to enjoy everything

561
00:40:04.920 --> 00:40:09.639
right now. Time is precious and
those of you don't realize time is the

562
00:40:09.639 --> 00:40:15.800
only commodity in nature that you can't
replenish. Water comes back, the trees

563
00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:20.159
bloom, the sun comes out,
the moon sets, or the moon is

564
00:40:20.199 --> 00:40:23.159
out there. Times it goes,
it's gone. I don't want to be

565
00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:27.159
looking to the future for the next
good time. I want to enjoy it

566
00:40:27.239 --> 00:40:30.960
right now. What got me thinking
is the title of the show is called

567
00:40:30.079 --> 00:40:35.760
After Tomorrow. I don't want to
wait after tomorrow to have a good time.

568
00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:39.800
And it's springtime and I can't help
but think. I have a story

569
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:45.199
on golf life, integrity that I
want to share with you and being the

570
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:50.440
golf seasons in this thick of things. The story is about golf, but

571
00:40:50.480 --> 00:40:54.239
it's about people. Jesse, you're
familiar with this. It's a story about

572
00:40:54.840 --> 00:41:01.039
Richard and golf. Ah fa favorite
story of a person that I don't like

573
00:41:01.199 --> 00:41:07.719
very much. Yeah, well as
The story goes the family and I were

574
00:41:07.719 --> 00:41:10.199
in Las Vegas. We were playing
golf. We're on vacation. We have

575
00:41:10.239 --> 00:41:14.119
a great time. And one day
I get a call from someone we knew,

576
00:41:14.679 --> 00:41:17.800
someone I did business with. I
kind of liked Mark. I want

577
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:22.360
you and the boys to come play
golf with me. Well, we're on

578
00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:24.039
vacation. He said, no,
I have a great course lined up.

579
00:41:24.800 --> 00:41:28.880
You'll be my guest, come play. I'd love to spend some time with

580
00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:30.039
you. So I said, let
me get back to you. And I

581
00:41:30.079 --> 00:41:32.159
talked to the boys and I said, you want to play with Richard And

582
00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:35.039
they said, why not. He's
a decent guy. I like him.

583
00:41:35.119 --> 00:41:37.400
Let's go play and we'll have a
fun time. And he picked a great

584
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:43.519
golf course, Cascatta Golf Course used
to be owned by MGM. It's now

585
00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:47.400
owned by the Caesars Palace. Link's
course in the middle of the desert.

586
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:52.559
Beautiful, beautiful, luxury golf course, very expensive, hard to get on.

587
00:41:52.719 --> 00:42:00.639
We went to play there and the
first thing out of Richard's mouth how

588
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:05.760
much the golf course is costing them
that day? And I'm saying to myself,

589
00:42:06.039 --> 00:42:09.320
I didn't need your money. I
didn't invite you. You invited me,

590
00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:12.920
you wanted us to come. I
didn't have to choose to play there.

591
00:42:12.960 --> 00:42:14.760
So I said to him, you
know, do you want me to

592
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:16.159
pay for our side? And you
don't have to pay. No, No,

593
00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:22.199
you're might guess you know so already
turned me off. So you talk

594
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:27.679
about people. What's the point first
question mentioning the money, Jess, you've

595
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:30.119
got a point of view on that
one. It's low class. It's really

596
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:34.480
done to show look how much look
what I'm doing for you. Look how

597
00:42:34.519 --> 00:42:37.320
much money I have. You know
it's not done for any benevolent reason.

598
00:42:37.440 --> 00:42:42.639
Let me put it that way.
Yeah. Part two, we get to

599
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:45.400
the course, we go to the
driving range. We're having a great time

600
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:47.360
hitting the bulls. We know the
course. I played there twenty times with

601
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:52.159
the boys. Regardless of what a
cost, it's worth. It great place.

602
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:54.920
We're having a great time. And
Richard says, let's play for money.

603
00:42:55.960 --> 00:42:59.840
Now these I'm dealing with my sons, you know, just the idea

604
00:42:59.880 --> 00:43:02.599
of playing for money. I don't
even like sending that signal. He says,

605
00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:07.320
let's play for money. You and
me Mark will play together and we'll

606
00:43:07.320 --> 00:43:10.800
play against the young Turks. Here
Jared and Jesse, let's play against them.

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I don't remember how much money do
we play for, Jesse, I

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don't know, like twenty dollars.
And you know, our position is,

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we love golf. We never play
for money. In all my history,

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I've never once said to someone I
want to play for money. Now you

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do, because it's just the nature
of the game. People bet on golf.

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But you know, I'm with my
sons. It's a fun time.

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We're on vacation. But he says
he wants to play for money. And

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he hits an errand shot into the
desert and we can see there's no way

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in the world he could find this
ball. It's just impossible. And lo

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and behold he finds his ball.
Remember what you felt like when he saw

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that, Jesse, Yeah, I
felt like it was Goldfinger. James Bond's

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playing against the bad guy, Goldfinger, and Goldfinger's caddy number two guys.

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Assassin goes into the woods, drops
a ball and goes ah found it,

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And so that's what I found,
Like, he basically dropped the ball,

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but what I saw him do wait
wait, wait, wait wait, you

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forgot the rest of the story.
So James Bond says to his caddy,

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Ah, mister Goldfinger's cheating. So
the caddy says, how do you know

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that? And James Bond lifts up
his foot and shows Goldfinger's ball, so

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he knows that Goldfinger's playing with the
wrong ball. And at the very end,

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in the last hole, James Bond
switches the balls and he goes,

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oh, you were playing with this
ball before he goes oh, I guess

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you must have been hitting the wrong
ball for the last five holes. I

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guess you forfeit. You lose strict
rules. And so James Bond won.

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But that's not what happened here.
What I saw happen here, well,

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well, you've got the greatest line
for golf. Strict rules of golf.

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Golf finger strict rules of golf.
So I see Richard take his club and

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start moving the ball into a better
position. I don't think you need to

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be an expert in golf to know
that is not allowed. That is a

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penalty. And he keeps moving it
to get into a better lie. And

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I'm saying to myself normally, again, like you said, perfectly, if

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this was a game we're just playing, I wouldn't care let him hit wherever

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he wants. To have a better
game. But if we're playing for money

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and he does that and I have
to suck it up and not say anything,

640
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I was furious. I was furious. Yeah, so you told me

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to gain what? You know,
he's not gonna admit it. Were embarrass

642
00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:30.679
make it bad. Could you have
just said you'd be like, what is

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a soccer? You're not allowed to
dribble? Well, the outcome of the

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event was we played, we finished
the day, we had a nice day,

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and neither one of us ever saw
him again. I didn't have to

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wait for after tomorrow to take him
out because I wanted no part of him.

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And that was the end. So
the point is, I guess is

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I like to talk about integrity all
the time. It's such an important thing.

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This is a business associate. I
no longer enjoyed his company. I

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no longer wanted to do business with
him. I didn't stop the business.

651
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I didn't encourage it. I didn't
socialize it anymore. I had nothing to

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do with them, and I was
the one who generated the breakup of our

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personal relationship. Guys, gals,
you only own one thing in this world,

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your integrity, your word. You
can never ever ever compromise it either

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today or after tomorrow, back in
a moment. Always in fashion. Venues

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for over one hundred and fifty years
now has been a mainstay in American fashion.

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This brand that was invented for dress
shirts was given to cold miners when

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they exited the mills, dirty and
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Family's there to give them fresh new
shirts that they could wear at home and

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feel their best. Over the course
of time, venues and dress shirts grew

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and grew and grew to suit shirts
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now sportswear has become a dominant part
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these products including sweaters, polos,
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best of fashion has to be preserved. I don't know if I ever mentioned

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to you the advent of the men's
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necktie business than the business lunch,
because guys would go out, they'd have

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their lunch that have their salads or
their beef and potatoes, and snow stout

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about it. They would always stain
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grew. Venues and today doesn't want
to make money on your hardships. They

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want to do it and prevent you
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they invented stain Shield. It's the
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items. The stain Shield collection provides
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spills to beat up before they can
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by the way, in addition to
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all body sizes, including big and
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vanusin dot com. As one of
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Lagafeld was renowned for his aspirational and
cutting edge approach to style. His unique

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vision of parisianshit comes to America through
car Lagofeld Paris. He has women's collections,

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men's collections, ready to wear,
accessory, shoes and bags. The

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fashion house Carlagofeld also offers a range
of watches, I wear and premium fragrances.

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You can explore the car lagofl collection
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it's more than that. I have, for one, love to shop.

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I love going around and seeing what's
happening and what catches my attention, what

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would make me feel good to wear
now. I don't wear the women's wear

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obviously, but I can appreciate it
and they look amazing. If you want

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to look right, you want to
have clothes that fits you well. You

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want to look like you're wearing something
that's very expensive, that's exclusive for you

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and yours. You can find at
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Paris. The women's ready to wear
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handbigs and the shoes. I,
for one, wear men's clothes, unlike

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my appreciation of women's clothes. I'm
a modern guy. I want to look

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current. I want to look the
way I want to feel. I go

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out at night, I'm in black
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great, They fit great, and
they have little tweaks and touches, whether

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it's a stripe on the sleeve or
button at the neck or on the shoulder.

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There's a lot of details that go
into Carlagafel because he's always been.

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He always had been one of the
world's great designers, and this legacy and

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goes on and on. I can't
speak enough about it except to say to

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you, you want to feel good
about yourself. You want to know that

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you're dressing properly. You want to
clothes that fits you well. Carl Lagafeld,

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Paris at Macy's Orcarlagafel dot com.
Welcome back to it Always in Fashion.

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Here's your host, Mark Webber.
When I think about this show called

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Always in Fashion, we really never
talk about fashion, or maybe I'll talk

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for a few minutes every show.
It's really a show that rooted in business,

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and where fashion comes into play is
I had a corporate career in the

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fashion and luxury retail industry, and
the examples and lessons that I learned apply

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to life in any industry for that
matter, and I often talk about it.

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After two years of hammering home the
concept that Always in Fashion was a

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business show, because I was concerned
that when people saw the name of fashion,

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they would tune out if they weren't
in fashion. Because I wanted to

712
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talk to truck drivers. I wanted
to talk to people driving their cars.

713
00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:43.519
I wanted to talk to people everywhere, particularly on radio at the time and

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00:50:43.559 --> 00:50:47.320
now on podcast I felt it was
limiting, but nonetheless we invested in the

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time and effort and always in fashion
and won't behold. One day I realized

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that on podcasts, Apple and Spotify
categorized us as lifestyle and cultural, and

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with that backdrop, we started covering
more subjects as we did tonight, on

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the issues of the day, current
events, on politics, when need be,

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on people and places, and on
things and lessons, and even fashion

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tonight and the theme of tonight's show
was after tomorrow. Friend of mine coming

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from Europe, made a statement to
me about we'll talk after tomorrow, We'll

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be together after tomorrow. It'll be
a nice time. We haven't seen each

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other, will catch up, and
it bothered me. I don't like the

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concept of living for tomorrow. I
like living for today. I don't know

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00:51:32.320 --> 00:51:36.920
about you, but I don't believe
in reincarnation. I'd love to love to

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00:51:36.960 --> 00:51:42.719
believe I'm coming back, me younger, smarter, but you know, unless

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you're coming back, you're not getting
another chance of this life. And you

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really would enjoy the moments that we
live while we're living in them, and

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00:51:47.800 --> 00:51:53.719
not wait for after tomorrow, and
that was tonight's show. I hope you

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enjoyed it tonight, and those of
you who are listening on podcasts well after

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tomorrow. Good night,