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But here, the Dallas Cowboys have
traded the twenty fourth pick to the Detroit

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Lions. With the twenty fourth pick
and the twenty twenty four NFL Draft,

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the Detroit Lions select Terry and Arnold's
defensive bagumb I love it. Oh.

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People were going crazy with that.
People in Detroit were going crazy with that

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because they get one of the best
cover corners. Some would argue the top

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corner prospect in this class, who
he gets compared to? Nate Wiggins drafted

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a little bit later and the kid
out of Clemson, Blions could have had

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him. He's not going to be
compared to Quinnon Mitchell. You can't not

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from a Lion's perspective, because Mitchell
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have an opportunity to draft him.
So that's that's not in the cards.

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But he will be compared to somebody
taken after Mitchell, by the way,

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taken by the Philadelphia Eagles. I
don't know if you saw Micah Parsons reaction.

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I can't believe how lucky Philadelphia gets. They get a top ten talent

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at their pick, and I'm thinking
to myself, I'm thinking to myself,

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I do wonder how often how often
you watched Quinnon Mitchell at Toledo anyway.

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Rob Rubick from the Detroit Lions broadcasts
and at Ford Field and from Ballet Sports

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in Eastern Michigan and former NFL tight
end for seven years is with us here

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at a send and the Soaring Eagle
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well before we get back to Rubes. Just a quick thought on that you

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may have a regarding the draft.
Also, the Nuggets over the Lakers last

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night, in case you missed it, Jokic, Gordon and Quarter all with

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double doubles, twenty point double doubles. Orlando blows out Cleveland, worst loss

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in playoff history for the Cavs last
night. That one blew my mind,

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just because Orlando hadn't led against Cleveland
in the first two games. Sixers get

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a playoff career high from Joel Embiid
with fifty points and they beat the Knicks.

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They're within one win of tying that
series. And then in the NHL

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Florida over Tampa three to Carolina over
the Islanders, same score, both teams

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up three games to non Stanley Cup
playoffs have been so damn good. I

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mean, really impressive. And the
Tigers will play the Royals tonight, the

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first of a three game weekend series. This is what I wondered. There's

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you know, there's two hundred and
seventy five thousand people downtown last night for

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the Draft. I'm not saying there's
gonna be that many over the weekend.

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It's got to be a nightmare to
be around there. He would have thought

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that the Tigers scheduling would have avoided
a home series during the weekend of the

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draft, just saying. So,
it's Ries Olsen against Seth Lugo, who

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is three and one, and Kansas
City was a two one winner last night.

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Salvador Perez had a first inning,
two run homer. He's thirty three

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years old and he leads the American
League in RBIs. Dude's a Hall of

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Fame catcher, really good player,
and a really good dude. Uh So,

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we're here at Soaring Eagle Casino and
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On Exus and Bros eighty six six
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You can text Sports Radio to twenty
one thousand. Roobs. I know

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you've gotten really caught up in the
Stanley Cup playoffs and in the NBA playoffs,

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So tell me what you do.
Yeah, before we get at that

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would make one comment on the all
the people being down there to Tigers.

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Yes, and I can speak of
this because my buddies today they took school

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off former teachers or our teachers.
I'm a former teacher, and they're going

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down of the draft and they're gonna
take a Tiger game when they're there,

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so they're gonna double dip. So
I think some of these people, all

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those people went down in there.
You know, first of all, you

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gotta play the cit that's a good
boy. Watch the game. It's gonna

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get beautyl sixty five degree day in
the city, so they'll double dip a

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little bit. But yeah, NHL
love it. It's just and my son,

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who was a college football player and
seem to be a doc. He

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loved hockey. It's his favorite thing. He just he never played like you.

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You know your son's played. Did
you skate when you're young? No,

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Yeah, I skated. I played
until about nine or ten, and

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then back then. You know,
the skates are like socks with blades ont

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them, so your ankles are like
they were very they didn't support you.

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Well, uh, but I loved
it. And it's just there's so much

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value in every Russian hockey. Every
time they come down the ice pea.

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Oh they don't score, no,
no, but they almost score a lot.

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Yeah, and that's what's exciting.
So when you do get a goal,

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it has great value. So I
just in the overtime in NHL,

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there's I mean, you can do
an overtime football and NFL. I like

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it. But if they get the
ball and we get the ball, hockey

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is like, stop me, we're
going home. You're golfing especially. Yeah.

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The only thing I wish hockey would
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something during the regular season in overtime, I wish you would do that in

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the postseason. So I would love
to see three on three in the postseason,

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just like they do during the regular
season. If you don't want to

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know that, Yeah, I hate
I think the shootout. The shootout to

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me is kind of pass. I
think it's I think it's run its course.

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Instead of playing five minutes of three
on three and then go and shootout,

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play another five minutes of three on
three. Yeah, someone's gonna do

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it for sure, and speaking of
that, Rangers play at Washington today,

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Vancouver's at Nashville. That's a really
good series. Vancouver's a lot of fun

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to watch, man. I mean, Quinn Hughes could have been a red

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wing uh let all defense in points
incredible. Winnipeg at Colorado, to me,

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is the best series. I was
looking forward to that more than any

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I think either team can reach the
Stanley Cup. They are so flipping fast,

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they are so good. I love
mccarr, I love McKinnon, I

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love what Colorado has built. But
I tell you Winnipeg, led by Kyle

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Connor and Mark Schifleet, they can
they can play, man, they are

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so fast. And then Edmonton at
Los Angeles that series tied at a win

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apiece. I love watching Connor McDavid
at five assists in game one, one

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assist in game two. Zach Hyman
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had a goal in Game two.
It's it's phenomenal. So get a chance

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if you can to check out some
of that too, because you really don't

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want to miss it. And look
the NBA Playoffs it's been really good too.

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I've enjoyed that more than I have
probably in the past. The stunning

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thing to me was, first of
all, the Bucks look terrible even in

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their win. I think that the
year I thought, yeah, they struggled.

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They have not responded to Doc Rivers
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then the other thing was, yeah, it's it's kind of crazy. But

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the Boston Series, I mean,
for some for some reason, I mean,

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who would have thought, no Jimmy
Butler, no Rosier, and yet

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Miami drains twenty three triples, a
franchise playoff high and wins in Boston even

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though Jaylen Brown had thirty three.
Okay, you just mentioned Doc Rivers.

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Is Doc Is he won NBA Championship? No, Okay, we talked about

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I'm gonna throw this out there.
You said he didn't respond when they brought

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Doctor Riverson. I mean, but
if I'm on thinking, why would he

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hasn't been this legendary coach. Then
you look at Miami. You're talking about

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Eric Spolstra. All he does is
win, and don't matter who he rolls

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out there. He's a tremendous coach. He's a he's a Hall of Fame

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coach. He's run up your favorite
coach from San Antonio, I mean Greg

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Popovich. Yeah, but you look
at you, look at Sposter. He

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just all he does is win him
as you said, two of the top

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players, and he's still with Jimmy
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I just don't know what he does
differently, what his is which allows him

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to be so good with so many
different types of players. But how come

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I guess they keep paying him,
keeps him there. Thank you. I

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think Pat pat Riley recognized it.
I think Pat Ridley is one of the

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few guys in the history of the
NBA. Jerry West is another who has

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been successful as a player. Now
Riley wasn't Jerry West, but he was

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still a decent enough player to play
on a championship team, a coach and

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a general manager. Wow, good
point. I mean, he's just he's

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just not really he's just really really
good. All right. I want to

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get back to the NFL because that's
what this time of the year is all

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about. What impresses you most about
how the league operates? Before you joined

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us, I said, all the
different things that they do, what's the

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thing that impresses you most about your
league in general? Okay, as part

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of the league and Rober Goodell from
the top down is they keep you engaged,

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as you're talking earlier match, from
the pre season till the next pre

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season. There's always something. You
have the season, then you have the

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playoffs, and you have the super
Bowl. Then they work you right into

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the combine. After the combine,
then they go, you mock drafts one

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point oh, one point whatever,
all the way up to the draft right

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now and now when the drafts thing. Guess what also the free agent time

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they make. All the movement in
the offseason they cover and that's covered.

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Well, you creat your own network, I mean, and then the other

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one stalled, the NBA network and
MLB and so forth, NHL, but

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there's nothing like the NFL network.
So they keep you engaged all the time

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they're marketing there there. Whoever,
their strategic planners are of how to create

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a company of professional football and to
keep everyone engage. You run because it

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is seasonal. Yeah that's a great
and they don't make it. Yeah,

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it's a great point. You got
to take a quick time out back with

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more. Rob Rubick here at a
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your thoughts on the Lions draft pick. Terry on Arnold is the newest line,

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him just as Trout was beginning his
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though Trout was six years older,
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He pushed him to work out as
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miss a workout. Trout isn't the
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but it never hurts to have a
superstar tell you you belong. Twelve years

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Hey, I'm o man, I'm eight.

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These fans gonna be crazy, man, God, Lee, the Lions

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have announced themselves as Super Bowl contenders. What are you going to help this

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franchise get there? You already said
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Super Bowl. Liesn't matter what are
Hey, it's amazing, man, We're

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gonna go crazy. What a moment
for Terry on Arnold. Soak it all

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in. Rob Rubik is with us
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resort. Actually should get paid because
he's helped host most of the show with

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me and it's interesting. You've always
told me how corners have to be different

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than others. They have to be
borderline cocky, they have to be incredibly

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confident. He sure fits that mold. It sounds like it. He's getting

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a taste of the Detroit crowd.
Preseason, pre preseason. Yeah, you

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know, during the draft, because
you know, two hundred and seventy five

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thousand, and I can imagine that
to be leavest, two hundred and twenty

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five thousand of those were Lion fans
down there. I mean obvious teams,

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people coming fro around the country.
But you know, Matt, I was

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lucky enough to have a chance to
be the playoff games last year that I

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do a show prior called Talk Talks. Will feel free to stop by the

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but light don't. There's a shameless
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I always bringing alumni. You know, we talked about last week's game

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and upcoming games. I had a
chance to be down there. That was

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crazy environment. I mean, I
said, it's like the guy who was

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a job that walked in the desert
for forty years looking for water. I

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don't know. That's what the Lions
fans are right now. They're looking for

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anything. And last year, you
know, they were being delivered by Brad

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Holmes and Dan Campbell put a great
product out there, and the product lived

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up to all the hype and they
had a great season. Now can they

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follow it up. It's gonna be
tough. It's gonna be a really difficult

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conference. We saw a Green Bay
with a young quarterback who looks like,

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now you're gonna be pretty good.
They're gonna be good. And the Bears

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are just you know, that's a
seven win team that got to be get

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the first pick of the draft.
So they got a couple guys. You

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know, their receiving course just gonna
be stupid, crazy good. So yeah,

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I immediately think of the Stros commercial. You know when the guy going

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through the desert. I was really
hoping I got I got some nice cold

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water, he says, I was
really hoping for a strows. Remember that

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it was a great commercial. Great
Ben, you got you got a text

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for us. Yeah. One draft
observation. John All and Latham are men

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among men, big old boys who
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Yeah. Uh, I love the
guys up front, folks. We talk

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about the quarterbacks and the fact that
there are six quarterbacks, a record six

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quarterback taken in the first round.
That is tied with the nineteen eighty three

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class. But let's remember this.
Eight offensive tackles went round one too,

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that was a record. And there
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trades, of course, the Lions
moving up to get you know, Terry

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on Arnold. That was the olweight
to Marino, wasn't it was? That

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was the great the greatest quarterback drafted
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mean, I mean that's I don't
think that's because they were taking Can you

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name the six quarterbacks? Well,
obviously lweight to Marino, there's two.

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It was Jim Kelly in that one. Yes, who were Todd Black No

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that time correct black legs. Yeah, that's four. There were two more

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that were One was really good Ken
O'Brien. Ken. He was not the

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one. He was pretty good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Bright, He was a jet correct. He was actually pretty good. It

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actually played really well when he went
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upset. I thought he's a pretty
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I'd call him a good court The
other's Tony Eason, right, Yes,

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for the Patriots. Yeah, and
got him to a Super Bowl in eighty

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five against the Bears where they were
simply truck when they played the best defense

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and the best scheme ever. Not
great, not great. So when you

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look at the Lions now and look, it's not a finished product. Terry

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on Arnold is one of the corners. How do you view their strengths for

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this team knowing that they still have
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they're going to grab. My belief
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you when you're drafting your first round
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starters outside of maybe two positions because
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two most difficult transit positions to transition
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But I would say those two two
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in the third round, and then
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look at them and their strengths right
now as you see the line? Well,

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okay, and that's a great question, Matt. I look at their

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strength as their offensive line. And
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as much as any of my life, was my college coach Jim Mark and

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you and Jim Hark. When I
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coach I was starting camp. I
comment, I'm having a hard time blocking

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these guys. He said, well, what do you do well? Roops?

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I said, well, I get
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He goes, Yep, you do
that. He said, work in your

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block, but don't worry about you
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He says, they will overlook your
you know what you don't do well.

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So he would highlight my strength as
I'm getting to here and you, and

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this strength is offensive line. So
I have no problem building more depth,

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creating more because you lose your receiver
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you lose your two through five.
Here Diamond does, and I'm sorry I

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don't. I'm not the greated receiver. There's a lot of good receivers out

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there, So you're okay with Josh
Reynolds being gone. You feel absolutely there's

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there's fifty other Josh Reynolds in the
NFL. And that's not a knock on

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Joss. He's one of fifty.
There are good backups and stuff. There's

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fewer Amon Rods, all right,
but you can plug that in but offensive

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line. Now you get a really
good offensive linement and he goes down.

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Man, it's nice. You don't
want that huge drop off because it's such

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a butterfly of flat fact. When
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guard, you put a guy that
it's a pylon, an orange cone,

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and all of a sudden, your
quarterback is getting pressured. We can't get

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the ball off, we're punting all
the time, we're getting sack, we're

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turning it over. You can't do
that. So that is so important.

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So build depth there, create some
depth so you can handle adversity in the

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seat with injuries, and I have
no problem with that. And then also

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you always want to go after your
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We knew that he signed in the
off season, but they still draft

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creating that depth, getting better where
you already think you're going to be okay.

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And that's what the later routes do
and the good team. We looked

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at the Patriots for years. They
were the benchmark what we all wanted to

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be, like, that's all they
did. They stockpiled draft picks. They

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didn't care about first and second round
as much, but they wanted ten picks

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from the second or late second through
the seventh round. They want ten eleven

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picks every year, and that's how
they built their team. Jep, we

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talked about this too. There's twenty
two guys, I'll say twenty five guys

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that play in the game most of
the time. Maybe it's you more of

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those twenty five guys. Twentiam's job
is not to lose the game. When

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I didn't have to win a game, Billy Simms was gonna win the game,

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or Gary Danis and Ery Ship was
going to make a pass a Londred

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times. What I had to do
is do my job. Don't get a

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holding call. They throw the ball, catch it, get what you can

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get. Don't let your guys beat
you clean. Just do your job.

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Don't lose a game. And they
have the guys to win games on the

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rock can win the game, right, they had Jamior Digs out of the

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bath field Monte. They can win
games for here defensively, Now Hutch,

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he can make it. That can
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need guys that are solid, guys
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And I have no idea what your
question was right now. I'm no,

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I'm just I was asking what your
thought was on their roster makeup to

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this point now, so you answered
it. Yeah, you answered it for

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sure. People talk about Dan Campbell
type players. Terry On Arnold appears to

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be a Dan Campbell type player.
How would you describe a Dan Campbell type

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player without getting into the kneecaps and
stuff like that stuff. Yeah, I

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would. I would like to think
I was a Dan Campbell type player.

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I would have thrived under him from
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I played with urgency, and I
played to my limit. In other words,

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I got everything out of my body
and out of my talent as I

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could. I didn't. It wasn't
like seven years later after I played I

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looked back and think, yeah,
man, I could have been better at

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this or but no, I pretty
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he wants. And I remember Dan
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He said, we had the same
type of guys that Brad and I assembled

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that first year. The differences are
more talented, he said. We've gotten

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more talented guys that are going to
play hard to the whistle, are gonna

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work in the off season, are
going to play at appliches, but play

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for the guy next to you,
And I get what that means. You're

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playing for something bigger than yourself.
I kind of say, you know,

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you look at religion. Everyone has
different views on religion. But it's my

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thing is if you just got to
know that you're not the center of the

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universe, that there's something bigger and
better out there for you. And that's

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what football is. There's something bigger
and better for you. You're not it

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now. I was never Calvin Johnson, you know, Kelvin was kind of

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in a lot. But you need
guys like that, but you need a

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coreship and that's what they have that
offensive line. They don't care who gets

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written up in the paper. You
know, they don't need the camera in

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their face. And you're going to
death. And those are Dan Campbell guys,

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guys who are great. They're not
gonna quit, They're gonna we'ren ever,

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We're gonna keep grinding away. And
that's what he wants. He doesn't

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want a bunch of divas, yep. And he's he's got a good one

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thanks, Ribs. I appreciate it very

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there as well. I know we
got a phone call. Let's get to

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a text real quick and then to
the phones. Ben. How about the

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text for us? Yeah, it
says this is going back to Lebron.

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It says Lebron is a baby,
he ruined the NBA for his years.

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New guys are sort of bringing it
back. But I'm not a fan.

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Michael Jordan is the go. Yeah. I think Michael Jordan's the best player

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I've ever seen. I never saw
Bill Russell, Will Chamberlain in his aday,

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Elgiin Baylor, Jerry West, Bob
Coozy all day for me, and

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it's tough to say, but Michael
Jordan is the greatest player of all time.

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I don't want to look. I'm
not a huge Lebron James fan.

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I don't think he ruined the NBA. I mean, the NBA's is popular

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now as it's ever been. Lebron
James is an absolute freak. He's a

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twenty time All Star. He's an
NBA champion four times, he's a four

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time MVP, six time All Defensive
Player, four time Finals MVP, nineteen

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times All NBA. The dude is
he does stuff. I'm sorry. He's

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thirty nine years old and he is
still this good. It's simply incredible.

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Who at thirty nine, Who at
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game. That said, it gets
a little old when he whinds as much

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as he does. So maybe that's
what the texter is referring to, and

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that's possible. I don't know if
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I do believe he's He's put on
a bad karma slash face of the NBA

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when he goes to those extremes,
and he does it more often times than

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not, and it gets a little
ridiculous for me. All Right, to

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the phone lines, we go the
Meyer hotline if you will, and you

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can join the conversation. Eight sixty
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Freddy's been standing by Freddie. Good
morning to you. How are you

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on this Friday? Good morning,
chef. How you doing, sir?

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I'm doing great. Thanks for the
call. What's going on? If anything's

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ruined the NBA, it's the money, in my opinion, But I guess

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you could say that about all sports, but I think more especially in the

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NBA. The money's just four years, four hundred million. That's a lot

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of money. But I want to
talk to you about the draft and a

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couple of things as well. Ruberg
goes on, I wanted to touch on

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before because I want to ask you
about the six quarterbacks they with the draft

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in the first run. Excuse me, Roope said something. I'm glad he

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said it because I mean, honestly, if a fan said it, you

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know it'd be it'd be coming from
a different direction. But when he said,

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hey, Golf, think about taking
maybe less money, more guaranteed money.

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Stay here. You got a great
situation here, I thought that was

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I thought that was refreshing to hear
that from an athlete. And it's almost

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like the Lions are created this when
you when you got the whole new home

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subdivision, right, they got the
model home. It's like almost Homes has

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created this model home. And Golf
is sitting in the foyer. He's like,

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listen, Jared, this is what
we're this is what we're building.

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Uh. I get you. I
get your house at a difference. I

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get your house a really good picture
right there. I like that a lot.

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Did we lose Freddy? Oh there
you are? Okay, all right,

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I'm sorry. So it's almost like
he's like I get your house at

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discal just sit in the floor and
watch what I can do with all the

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additions that and maybe if you take
a little bit less money, we can

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create something here and you'll be this
iconic figure for the next one hundred years

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in Detroit. It's something to consider
if you're going to take less money.

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And I like I like the Anthony
said that because it's coming from a fan,

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it would be different, and so
I thought that was refreshing. Yeah,

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I think you're right about I think
you're right about that. If it

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comes from a fan, it is
different. I have a hard time asking

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athletes to take less money. When
I'm me myself, I would ask anybody

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in any job they do, any
job, I don't care if you're an

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athlete, a quarterback, whatever.
How many times are are you saying to

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your boss, I'll take less money
if it means more reward for the company.

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You would if it meant losing your
job. But Jared Goff would be

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able to get a job somewhere.
I think it's very convenient for us.

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We want How many times have we
heard take a hometown discount. I used

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to laugh at that. How many
people do that? You do it.

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Maybe later in your career if you
want to ring, But when you got

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a chance to make the money,
most people would say take the money.

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I mean, look, Joe Burrow
didn't take less money. Patrick Mahomes didn't

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take less money. Justin Herbert didn't
take less money. Lamar Jackson didn't take

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less money. Jalen Hurts didn't take
less money. Why is Jared Goff the

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guy who's got to take less money? How much is not enough? How

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much is too much? I guess
that all depends on the point of view,

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the perspective, right. Yeah.
And by the way, I asked

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my boss for more money all the
time. He never listens today. So

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you you you brought the six quarterbacks, and that was a fair point,

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you said you you said this morning, Hey, all of them are not

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going to pan out, right,
Chef, Is it fair to say?

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Is it fair to say, hey, maybe it's not the quarterback didn't pan

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out. Maybe it was the organization
didn't pan out. You know, we

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can go back to a lot of
examples post where I suppose that is Possiblely,

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Look, I suppose it's possible.
It's just so hard to hit on

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that many players. That's all I
mean we were talking about the eighty three

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draft that we reason. Thanks for
the phone call, Freddie, It's always

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good to talk to you. Have
a great weekend. The reason we bring

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up the eighty three draft is because
that's the last time six quarterbacks were taken

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in the in the first round,
and it's the most ever. Well,

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how many of those guys really panned
out? Todd Black legend didn't plan out.

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Tony Easton for the most part,
did not pan out. Ken O'Brien

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I think was pretty damn good.
Okay, they're not all going to work

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out. You think they will when
you first get them, but it's it's

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just not realistic. Who would be
the guy who doesn't work out? I

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think Jaden Daniels is pretty damn good. I love Drake May's power, and

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I love that he's the youngest son. That means he got the crap kicked

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out of him quite a bit as
a kid, and he's one of those

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guys who shucks it off and says, you know what, let's go.

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I'm okay with that. Caleb Williams
is really gifted athletically. You know,

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you could talk about each one of
those guys. Michael Pennixt's a really good

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ball downfield. JJ McCarthy's a winner. Which of those translates? It's really

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hard to pinpoint. But let me
just get back to the Jared Goff discussion.

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If you're Jared Goff and his agent, I might add, and you

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and I probably this is such a
hard conversation because I just can't relate.

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How do you relate to fifty million
dollars? It's just incredible. But if

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you're Jared Goff and you see that
Deshaun Watson gets a guaranteed deal of two

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hundred and thirty million dollars, should
you not at least start there considering what

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you've accomplished? And he hasn't.
Herbert Burrell they correcked the two hundred million

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dollar threshold with total guarantees during the
twenty twenty three offseason. So Deshaun Watson's

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two hundred and thirty million dollars,
Joe Burrow's two nineteen, Herbert's two nineteen.

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Patrick Mahomes is two hundred and eleven
or two hundred and ten and a

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half if you're Patrick Mahomes, and
that's a lot of money, don't get

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me wrong. And he's getting paid
for what he's been able to do.

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He's one of the best, if
not the best quarterback in the league.

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For crying out loud, If I'm
Patrick Mahomes, I'm like, I'm underpaid

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at my position. Justin Herbertson never
gone to a Super Bowl, Joe Burrow

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has never won one. On Watson's
never healthy and gets in trouble off the

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field. What's the knock against Patrick
Mahomes his wife's voice. Seriously, if

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you're Jared Goff, how do you
look at what some of these guys are

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making and say, yeah, yeah, I'll take less. Sure other teams

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found a way to do it.
Look, I would love if he did

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it. Here's my question to you. Has a player taken less for the

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betterment of the team? Tom Brady
had done that in the past, right,

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Yes, a little bit less.
He was still making a ton of

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money, but he could have made
more. It's a fair point. I

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don't know. It's not like a
lot of people remember a guy and say,

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if you're at Ford Field next year
and Jared Goff loses a game even

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though he took less money, how
many people are going way to go Jared.

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I know it's a tough loss,
But I'm really glad you took less

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money for the team. Way to
go, proud of you. Nobody's saying

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that, man, they want you
to win. If he makes a lot

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of money or takes you know,
puts the team in a little bit of

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a challenging situation. For more money, you're going to go. You better

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win. Even if he makes less
money, you better win. How many

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people do you talk to and they
say the expectation for the Lions is to

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get to the super Bowl or to
win the Super Bowl. Did Penney Sewell

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take less money? I'm on ros
Saint brownsher didn't. He's I was paid

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receiver in the league. Anybody think
about asking him to take less money?

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00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:58.960
Why? I mean, he's not
on the field on every single play.

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Jared Goff is, Penney sewele is, and I like Saint Brown a lot.

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It's not a knock on him.
I'm just asking we want Jared Goff

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to take less money because he's got
a good thing going. So did Saint

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Brown got a pretty damn good thing
going, and he was a fourth round

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00:35:21.079 --> 00:35:27.800
draft pick. He's got a damn
good thing going. Didn't ask him to

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take less money. It's an interesting
situation, you know, and I think

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we we pick certain situations to use
as our examples. Maybe a little off

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base here eight six six eight three
eight forty eight forty three. You can

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text us Sports Radio to twenty one
thousand. I'm just I think of like

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today's economy, and I think of
business owners. Freddy called in and and

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and kind of parley that after what
Rob Rubik, who joined us here at

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Sorting Casino and Resort, was discussing. So I'll use I mean, Freddie's

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got a very successful restaurant where he
sells pizza and pasta and all that other

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stuff, and it's really good food. I think of today's economy. How

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many people are working for you?
Did you ask them to take less money?

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Are you taking less money? It's
if you are, you're probably working

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twice as hard though it's hard to
deal with this stuff. Are you willing

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to do it? Are you willing
to do in your business which you're asking

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another person to do in theirs.
That's why sometimes I have a hard time

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00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:52.639
discussing it, or at least suggesting
it. Not discussing it, but hard

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time suggesting it because I don't know
if I could. I don't know if

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I could do that now, if
it's an offer, if somebody comes to

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me with a job offer and says, I want you to do this,

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and this is our budget, this
is what we can do, that's completely

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different. The Lions chose to sign
Saint Brown and Sewel, they gave Taylor

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00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:23.440
Decker a big contract a couple of
years ago. They've made certain choices.

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They still have a creative way where
they can probably sign Jared Goff, give

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them what is justified and not be
in salary cap hell, that's my guess.

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It's up to them to figure that
out. But I don't care what

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anybody says. Anytime you're in a
business, or anytime you're a worker and

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you see somebody else doing your job, if you have the proof that you're

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as good, if not better than
they are, and they're making almost twice

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as much as you are, or
GOB's amount of money more than you are,

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it's going to sting a little bit. And I don't know if you

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can necessarily blame them. What do
you want today? What are you hoping

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for today? In the NFL Draft
for the Detroit Lions. The hope here

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is you get one of two things. This is based on need. Now

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this is based on need. So
I don't know what their draft board looks

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like. I don't know where they
have. You know, they don't need

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Cooper Dejene. Of course, I'd
love a guy like Jershon Newton from Illinois,

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but he won't be there. Right. If you wanted a receiver,

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Donas Mitchell would be a nice pick. He's the kid out of Texas.

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Would love something like that. I
think you need something UPNT either offensively or

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defensively, or you need a receiver. If the Jackson Powers Johnson kid fell

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and he's the center. He's six
y three, three hundred and thirty pounds.

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First Oregon player PAC twelve player to
win the Riminton Trophy that's given annually

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to the most outstanding center, really
powerful run blocker. It's got great size,

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can get to the next level.
This is what they say about him,

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right, good pass protector. If
that guy's around, I don't anticipate

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him being there, but maybe another
trade is doable to trade up. I

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would strongly consider that. There's a
guy by the name of Chris Braswell out

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of Alabama. He's a little slight
at two hundred and fifty pounds, but

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he can get off the edge.
Didn't start a lot. I think he

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was. He was a rotational guy
along their defensive line, but he had

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eight and a half sacks. He
had as many sacks as the defensive end

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out of Missouri who was drafted in
the first round, Darius Robinson, who's

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by the way from Campton, Michigan. Those are a couple of names.

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I'd love the I'd love the j
Jackson Powers kid. Love that. That

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would be fantastic. I just don't
think he's going to be there. And

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if you're looking for a possible wide
receiver, you know I'm I'm not keen

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on the Jalen Polk is a kid
out of Washington. He's six' one,

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two oh three. I don't know
about that. The de tackle out

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of Ohio State who was a Michael
Hall. He might be there by the

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time Detroit picks in the second round. And the Zach Frasier out of West

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Virginia. Any of those names,
if they happen to be there, or

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if they're close to it and I
had to give up a fourth or something

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like that, I'd strongly consider it. But you want to have picks.

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Remember, Detroit feels like they're just
a couple of picks away and they got

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a big part of it with Terry
on Arnold. Hey, I want to

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