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Dr Tony Sechoria, Welcome to the show. Thank you so much, Thank
you for inviting me. It is great to have you with us today.
And you're calling from the state of Maine. Yes, truly, the other
side of the truly the other side they were exactly. Now, you had
a near death experience back in the nineteen nineties. Would you like to start
at the beginning, please sir, sure. This is August nineteen ninety four.
And my wife's family had a lot of people in their family with birthdays
in August, so they would have a communal birthday party and they would deal
with all the birthdays on one particular day. And this was it. And
they had rented a pavilion next to a lake called Sleepy Hollow Lake in Athens,
New York, which is just south of the capital, Albany. And
there were about twenty five twenty six people at this gathering. And the pavilion
that they had rented was actually a two story structure. The ground level was
where they have picnic tables and the activity areas and the parties up on the
second floor. My job was that was given to me, was to run
the barbecue. So I'm outside and we're right next to the lake, and
early in the morning, it was a beautiful day, and I wasn't really
paying attention to anything else, and I was busy with the barbecue. And
somewhere around mid morning, I had the thought that I needed to call my
mom check on her because she was not going to be there, and so
I walked around. I got somebody to watch the barbecue, and I walked
around the front of the building because there was a pay phone attached and that
was right next to the stairs going up to the second floor, and then
went over to the phone. I died of my mom's number, and she
didn't answer, so I was getting ready to hang up. And what I
was not aware of was set in the course of the morning. When I
was out there, I had my back to the lake, and because I
was concentrating on cooking, I wasn't paying attention to anything else. Apparently an
ugly storm had blown up over the lake and under a lightning storm, and
I was completely unaware of it till I'm standing there on a phone. And
there's a reason your mother will always tell you to never talk on the phone
in a lightning storm. And so I was, as I said, I
was trying to call my mom and she didn't pick up. So I was
getting ready to hang at the phone, and I had taken the receiver and
I had pulled it away from my face and it was probably fixed to twelve
inches away from my face, and all of a sudden I saw it was
a big flash of light come out of the phone in this loud crack,
and I saw a big flash and it hit me in the face and just
threw me back like a rag doll, and it felt like had been kicked
by a horse, and I went flying backwards. And then as I was
going backwards, I had this very strange sensation of moving forward, and I
remembered standing there, and I was absolutely bewildered, and I'm trying to make
sense of what had just happened. And I knew exactly what had happened.
I knew I'd been hit by lightning, and I knew I'd been thrown backwards.
And now I don't understand why I'm standing here, and I didn't understand
what that subtle sensation of moving forward was all about. So I'm standing at
the bottom of the stairs and I look at the phone, and the phone
is dangling, and my mind is just racing because nothing's making any sense.
And I was completely aware of every millisecond of activity, and all of a
sudden, I hear my mother in law screaming, and I look up and
she's at the top of the stairs and she is coming down the stairs right
at me, and I thought, what the hell is going on? And
as she was coming down the stairs. She was looking after her left.
She it was like I didn't even exist, and she got down to the
bottomless air and sho was right in front of me, and she took off
to her left, and I instinctively thought, okay, I'm to follow her
because I don't know what the health's going on. And I took about three
steps and all of a sudden, I was confronted with myself on the ground.
And I remember walking over to my body, which is this lying there,
and there's some incredible thought comes to my head and I said, oh
shit, I'm dead. And it was really a shock to me, and
no pun intended that. I always expected that there would be some sort of
a signal when you died, you know, you'd have some bells or whistles
or something. And there was absolutely nothing except that subtle sensation of moving forward,
which I assumed was my spirit leaving my body. And so I'm standing
there and I'm watching what's going on. And there was a mother and her
daughter that were waiting to use the phone, and I guess the girl at
the early teen, and she wanted to call some friends to come to the
pavilion where they were at and her mom turns out to be a nurse,
and so she's gonna she's starting to get down and do CPR. And I'm
standing there and I'm calling out them, but nobody can hear me. Nobody
can see me, but I can see and hear everything else. And I
would just bewildered by all of that. And then the next most important thing
that came to my head was whoever I am, I always am, and
I realized that what was on the ground was just an empty costume of who
I really was, and my spirit, which was standing there looking at all
this was something that lived on forever and had nothing to do with the carcass
on the ground other than it was a change of clothes. And at that
point I thought, well, there's no point in just standing around here,
and I had the feeling I should go check on my family. So I
walked away from all of that activity on the ground, and they started walking
up stairs because I was going to check on on the family, and out
of habit, I always looked down at the ground when I'm walking upstairs so
I don't fall on my face and embarrass myself. And as I got to
about the third step, I looked down and I see that my legs are
starting to dissolve, and I thought, oh, this is getting really weird.
And by the time I got to the top of the stairs, I
had lost all four and I was just this ball of energy out of nothing.
I didn't have a better way to describe it. And the stairs go
up to the left, and instead of following the stairs at that point,
I just went through the wall. And when I went through the wall,
it came out directly over my wife's head, and she was sitting a couch
and she was tainting children's faces. And I made a specific note of who
the kids were, where they were, how they were standing, in what
order, and in how the furniture was arranged. And I'm not sure why
I did, but that would turn out to be an important part of the
story because later on we compared notes, I had it completely correct, and
that was that was information that would actually come out a couple of years later,
when we were we had been invited to be on a show call.
It was from A and E Beyond and Back. I survived Beyond and Back
with him of the show on TV in that they had interviewed us separately and
one of the things that was quite notable to me was that I had given
this specific reference about how everybody was standing in what order, et cetera,
and it was all verified by what by my wife, and we had not
talked about that previously, and so at this point, you know, I
saw them and had this realization that everybody would be fine without me, and
I just kept going. I was I was moving someplace, and I was
going out of diagonal. I went through the room, and when I got
outside of the roof, then things really changed and I was suddenly immersed in
this river of bluish white light, and it was a river of energy,
and it was the most unbelievable thing I've ever imagined. If you could imagine
absolutely love and absolute peace in one stream of energy, that's what it was
like. And I remember thinking, this is unbelievable. And I could actually
see the energy coming from this blush white light, and they could see the
waves of the waveform, which was pretty weird because it looked kind of like
a sin wave. But it as I looked at it, I could see
that it went through everything and made up everything, which was quite remarkable to
me. And I remember thinking, this must be the God energy, and
so my science brain starts to kick in. I had done a lot of
research and I was an mdphd at the time. I still am, and
I thought this is something I could measure. I'm trying to I'm imagining some
experiments that I could do on this energy, which was magical thinking. But
as I'm I'm looking at all of this and feeling it, and there's a
sensation of movement. I'm going someplace. I had speed and direction. I
had no idea where I was going, but I could tell I was going
somewhat. And as I'm going along, I get this small section of time
where I'm passing through a ring and there's this collage of the pictures of my
life in high points, goal point. It's big things and in mundane things
as well, and it was just it was just that it was a colosities
of my life. And then I was just I looked at all the all
the pictures, and there was no in depth discussion, and there was nobody
that was that was talking to me about any of this. I'm just floating
along in this river, and about this time I'm I'm coming to the realization
that this is the greatest thing that could ever happened to anyone that I'm I'm
experiencing what it's like to be in free form, of spiritual form, and
I was absolutely amazed that the feeling of love and peace was so overwhelming,
and I was excited wherever I was going it was. I was so excited
to be going there. And right about the time that realization came to me,
it was like somebody flipped the switch and I was back in my body,
and I was so angry. I was I was yelling in my head,
please don't make me do this. I don't want to go back,
and I realized that it's not my choice, and I'm stuck back in this
body and it hurt like hell. I felt like somebody had stuck a hot
poker in my face. And one of my footwork came out. And as
I was laying there, I realized, I'm still unconscious because I can't open
my eyes. I'm you know, I completely incapacitated. But the lady who
had been doing CPR had stopped and she was kneeling next to me, and
after a few minutes, I was able to open my eyes and they wanted
to What I wanted to do was to say thank you for saving my life.
Unfortunately, the only thing that came out was it's okay, I'm a
doctor, and she just kind of laughed and said, you weren't a minute
ago. And I thought, okay, I'm just going to shut up because
nothing's making any sense and I don't want to embarrass myself anymore. So they
called the police, they called an ambulance, and I just poetly called them.
There's no point to the hospital. You get hit by lightning, You're
either alive or dead, there's not much in between. And really, I'm
alive at this point, and that was really a stupid thing for me to
do. I shaid, no better, but at the time I wasn't thinking
very clearly, and I got my family to take me home to see my
normal doctors. I had a partiology friend and a neurology friend that I would
see, and I saw, you know, I called him on the way,
told him what happened, and they met me at their office to them
and so you know, they checked me out and said, well, you
know, you're lucky as hell you're alive, and that's just the way it
is. And I was bewildered, but you know, by by all of
this stuff, and what the hell, how could this happen? And what
did it mean? And I remember thinking about, you know, what's the
probability of getting hit by lightning number one? And then the lightning well losing
enough of its charge so that when it hits you, it doesn't turn you
into a French shrine. And so it had gone through this building and lost
some of the some of the current and just enough to stop my heart and
make me dead but not cook me in the process. So at least at
the time, I didn't think there was any irreversible damage. And I just
kept I kept going and going, trying to get back to normal life.
And I was out of work for about a week because my had My mind
was really really cloudy in the first week, and I was having trouble remembering
things. I could look at you and I would know, I know your
name, and I know what to do. But Dame, if I could
find that name and I knew that I knew what it was supposed to be,
I just couldn't. I couldn't tell you what it was. And it
was true with diseases as well. I could remember everything about something but the
name of it escaped me, just like with people. And this lasted for
about a week and then it seemed to go back to normal. And I
was mystified by all of this, and it didn't make much sense to me,
but it was just the way it was, and get used to it.
So I went back to work. Within a couple of weeks of the
lightning event, I start having this sensatiable desire to hear classical piano music.
And I thought, well, that's that's a big departure for me. My
mom. It made me take piano lessons when I was seven years old,
and I did that for a year and out of threat of bodily harm,
and then passed cast to the side because I had no real interest in it.
So this was a big departure. I was a kid in a rock
and roll and early wasn't much of anything else. And so now I've got
this sensatiable desire and it was very strong, so much to the point that
actually drove an hour away to Albany again, and I went to a music
store and that would carry classical piano CD and when I walked in, it
seemed like there was a CD that jumped off the shelf into my hands,
and it was Vladimir Ashkenazi, a famous Russian pianist, playing his favorite chopan.
And I listened intently to the music and just listened to it all day
long, and I made my coworkers listen to it. I made my family
listen to it. I was absolutely possessed by it. And within a couple
of weeks, I realized that it's not going to be enough for me to
listen to this music. I have to be able to play it. And
I thought, well, it's going to be a real challenge since I don't
have a piano and I don't know how to play. But the next day,
one of our babysitters comes to the house and she says, I'm going
to be moving and I have this old ILF white piano that I love,
and I was wondering if I could stored in your house for a year or
till I get settled. And so I thought, okay, all of a
sudden, now I have a piano. And I went to the store and
I bought some books on trying to teach yourself how to play piano, and
I magically thought that I could do that, and that was a route Awakening
as well. But undaunted, I ordered the music on the CD in the
sheep form, and I started trying to teach myself how to play. And
I would get up in a week hours of the morning and I would try
to learn stuff. So I went to work, and then I would have
to work. I would come back and start all over again. And I
had ordered that music from the CD, and I was determined to learn a
piece of music called the Fantasy and Promptu, which is a chopin favorite.
I was trying to learn it and I could not understand for the life of
me why somebody would write a piece of music and two hands don't wind up
with each other. And my daughter's best friend, Jackie, was over at
the house one day and her mom, Penny, had come by to pick
her up. And Penny walk in, and Penny is accomplished and professionally trained
by when, and she heard me wailing away on the piano, and she
came in and said, what are you doing? And I said, well,
I said, I can't. I'm trying to learn how to play this
piece of music, but the hands don't wind up, and I don't understand,
you know, why somebody would write a piece of music like that,
and she said. She just looked at me and she said, they're not
supposed to. That piece of music is what's called a poly rhythm. And
I said, well, what's a polyrhythm? And she said, I'm not
even going to try to explain this to you. She said you need to
get a teacher. And she gave me the name of Sandy McCain, who
was the head of the department of music at Hartwick College, which was a
college in the town where I lived in noneaw To, New York. And
she told me to call this waiting, so I did, and Sandy asked
me to come by for no addition, and told me to bring three things
that I was trying to learn how to play, and I did. I
brought three things with me and she had me play through what I was able
to and at that point she said, okay, I'll take you on to
the student under one condition. She said, you were not allowed to play
any of this again until I tell you that you can. And I said
why, and she said, because you were already building terrible techniques and we
need to start at the bottom and build you up, which is what we
did. We started the very basic with scales and fingerings and all the stuff
that you know students hate. At the very beginning, we started going through
the process. And about a month after all of that happened, I have
this incredible dream. And in the dream, the dream was like and had
a body experience, and I remember I was walking out onto a stage,
but it was weird because I was walking towards myself. I'm actually out on
the front of the stage in a big concert hall, and I'm playing this
music. And as I'm walking toward myself, I'm listening to the music,
and I come to the realization that this is not somebody else's music, this
is mine, and so I was paying attention to what was being played.
And I walked up and I stood behind myself and was listening to the music,
and the music had a loud, crashing ending, and it woke me
up, and I remember sitting I woke up, and I sat up in
the bed and I looked at the clock and it was three fifteen, and
I got up and I went out to the piano and I tried to punk
out some of the things that I was hearing, but I had no idea
how to write anything down, and I couldn't. I didn't know how to
play. So I said to help with this, and then went back to
bed and got up with my usual time. And from that moment on,
whenever I came near the piano or was having some quiet time, the music
from the dream would start playing in my head. It was like it was
downloaded into my head and it would just start playing, and it was very
insistent. It was like a little two year old like Daddy played with me.
And I learned very quickly that I had to honor that because it would
become intrusive. It would start playing in my head when I was trying to
do other things and trying to concentrate on other things, and I thought,
this is kind of kind of strange stuff. But it just continued. It
was like that on a constant basis, and I came to think that,
you know, the only reason I survived this lightning strike was because of this
music, and I became I became absolutely obsessed with the music and learning how
to play. And they had talked to my piano teacher about it many times,
and I would try to I would try to play bits and pieces of
it, and I would write down as I learned how to play music.
I would write down a measure or two and I would put it in a
drawer someplace and think, well, I'll come back to this stuff at some
point in my life. So I just continued on this pathway of me.
I had lessons. I had two hours a week, and I would get
up at four point thirty five o'clark and I would practice until I went to
work at six po thirty and went to work and then did my twelve hours,
and then I would come home and have dinner with the kids and put
them to sleep, and then I went back to the piano and I would
be there till twelve o'clock in the morning. I did this every day,
was absolutely obsessed by it, and which didn't do anything for my married wife
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pathway and I had heard about a thing called a piano camp for an adult,
and I decided I would start to go to this piano camp which was
been in Vermont pauls Sonata, and it's an old convent and they had thirty
different rooms. Each room has an old piano in it all of these.
It had thirty people and would come together for a week, and every month
there was a different camp. And by the month that I chose to go
to with May, there was just an easy month for me to do it
in and so every May I would go to this pianel camp. And I
started in two thousand and two, now a number of years after the lightning,
and I started actually taking the lessons in nineteen ninety eight, which was
almost four years after the lightning stright. And one of the things that was
always remarkable to me was that people would always be in wonderment because I was
playing things at Dano Camp that were way above what people thought I should be
able to do based on the number of years I've been playing in my age,
et cetera. But undoing did I continued learning how to play, and
at the end of the week at Dane Camp, he always had to have
a concert where he would play something for everybody and monitor your progress. And
so I kept doing this and fast forward to two thousand and six. One
of the things that I had started doing right after the lightning event was I
went to see a psychic medium, I member Linda Dickinson, and I was
obsessed with trying to understand why this happened and what it all meant. And
in two thousand and six, when I went to see her, and I
sat down in front of her desk and she was quiet for a minute,
and all of a sudden, she jumped up and says, tell me you're
going to music camp this year. And I said, well, I was
thinking about not, and she said, no, you have to go.
And I said why and she said, if somebody you're going to meet that's
gonna have a big part in your life. And I thought, okay,
it's kind of weird, and so I decided, okay, I'll sign up,
and I signed up for the music camp and I went this in May
of two thousand and six, and the owner, her name's Polly Vanderwin and
Polly had a sister, Erica, and Erica was the number one salesperson at
Steinway in New York City, and Erica had had jumped ship and moved to
Rosendorf for pianos, and she brought five pianos in the piano camp to play
on. And I'm sure it was just a promotional thing to do, but
she and I got to spend a fair amount of time that week talking about
all it was blightening stuff, the music. And she was also a concert
pianist, and she was amazed at the level that I was functioning at with
the few years that I had under my belt. One of the things that
she said to me was that he said, you know, this is an
interesting story, but the only person that could tell it is Oliver Sack.
The only thing I knew about Oliver Sacks was that he had written the book
Awakenings, and he was a neurologist, and it was about it. But
Oliver was one of the famous, the most famous and prolific neurologists in the
world, and they had written numerous books. But at the time they you
know, it was just a passing thought. I didn't really know the importance
of that comment. And after the piano camp. I went home, and
a month later I get a phone call from Oliver Sack and Oliver, you
know, I've heard about this story from Erica, who he had known for
some time, and he asked me if I would come down to New York
City to be interviewed because he had a group of people who had similar things
happened to them and had developed unusual abilities, and he wanted to essentially study
me in this group of people. So in August of two thousand and six,
I went to see Oliver in New York City and I got to spend
the entire day with Oliver Sacks, which was a high point of my wife
and certainly one of them. And literally got there early in the morning and
was leaving late in the evening and I'm standing in the door saying, and
he looked at me with his piercing eyes that he had, and he says,
you know, the music from the dream went through an awful lot of
trouble to get here. The least you can do is write it. And
I thought, oh my god, I was so taken by what he said
to me that I absolutely said to myself that I was going to do that,
and so I drove home, which was about four hours from where he
lived. When I got home the next day, I went to a store
and I bought a computer program called Sibelius, which is essentially writing music for
dummies. The way it worked is you kind of use an electric keyboard and
whatever you played on the keyboard would show up on a page that the computer
would generate, and it was music notation. So I started trying to write
the music from the dream, and one of the interesting things about it was
the music was always exactly the same, and I used it as an internal
control. So when I would try to write something that I was hearing,
I would as I wrote it, I could listen to it on a computer
and it was either correct and exactly the way the dream was or not.
And if it wasn't, then I had to figure out how to how to
write what I was hearing, and sometimes it was difficult, and I would
thankfully go to my piano teachirt and say, you know, I'm I'm hearing
this, but I'm having trouble writing it. And she would try to teach
me some of the things about about writing, and you know, she'd say,
you know, this is the five over four passage and you would write
it this way. And so I continued on this on this project, and
I worked every single day. When I got home, I would start working
on it as well as my other piano studies. And it took me about
seven months and I was able to write it. And at that point I
decided that I'm going to play this for my piano group, which was going
to meet in May of two thousand and seven, and so that's what I
did. I went, I took it to the piano piano camp and as
my at the end of the week, we always had a concert, and
that was the music that I was going to play at the concert was going
to be what I affectionately called the White Mescenontou, which was actually a in
terms of musicology, was it was a fantasy and not a sonata. But
because it didn't follow the rules of sonata, so I wounded up having to
call it Fantasia Opus one. But you could subtitle that he wanted, and
so the subtitle with the Lightning Sonata. Again, I played it for the
group. It was well received and the last day of piano camp, I
got a call from Oliver Sen and all of a sudden you know, I'm
I'm writing a book about all these people with different things that have happened to
them, and I'd like to use you in my book. And I thought,
okay, man, I don't have anything to hide. And he said,
good because you're chapter one and it's coming out in the New Yorker magazine
in July of this year. And I thought, oh, well, I
wasn't expecting that. And but you know, I just went on about my
business and my normal activity, and at that point that, you know,
I didn't think much about it. But in July, when the New Yorker
magazine came out, the phoney started ringing off the hook and one of the
first calls I got was from a guy named Carlton Clay. And Carlton was
the head of the music department at the State University of New York in Dando,
which is where I lived. I had a big music department, and
Carlton asked me if I would teach a class because he'd read this article in
New York or he thought it was a and I said, sure, that
would be interested to do. And a couple of weeks later he calls back
and he goes, well, I'm getting awful lot of interest in this story,
and he said, would you consider playing music for class as well?
And I thought sure, And so I had committed myself to doing that and
I can was just continuing with my progress and my studies and working full time.
About a month later, Carlton calls again and says, geez, you
would not believe the number of people I'm getting calls from about this music.
And he said, would you consider doing a concert? And I said absolutely
not. He said, I don't have the faintish idea how to do something
like that, and I don't even know where to begin. And somehow he
talked me into it, and I agreed to do a concert in January a
few thousand and eight. And then I called my piano teacher and I said,
gee, Sandy, I got once wagging into doing this and Carlton,
who she also knew, and I explained to her what I was going to
do, and I said, is there any way you could get me ready
to do that? And she said yeah, she said, but it's going
to take a huge effort. I can count on three or four hours a
day and I'm like, oh my god. And I said, okay,
Bill, and we started you know, she had to teach me everything from
walking out onto the stage and talking to an audience and playing music and the
whole the whole repertoire of how it should go. And we worked on this
every day and then I guess it was about a month before the concert and
Carlton called me again and said, and he says, I don't know how
to tell you this, he said, but I'm getting a huge number of
calls again. And he said, how would you feel about the television crew
filming this? And I said what, I said, You've got to be
kidding me. He says, no, he said, You've got the BBC
one, Granada Media and German Television all want to have television for there when
you do this concert. And I, oh, my god, I'll never
survive this. And I talked to Sandy again, and you know, I
said, okay, well we'll give it a try. And so, you
know, the day comes in January twenty ninth, which was my birthday,
and I thought it's kind of like a rebirth. And I remember going to
the green room before the concert and I said, to God and angels and
whoever was listening, I said, you guys went through an awful lot of
trouble could get me to this point. Don't abandon me now and embarrasses both.
Somehow I made it through the concert without making too many wandering error and
it seemed to take a life of its own, and I started getting asked
to perform music all over the place, in which I did and was interesting
because invariably, whenever I would play some play at some venue, afterwards,
people would come up and very quietly they would they would say, you know,
something happened to me and they'd had a near death experience. But we
were afraid to talk to anyone about it and look good reason and people would
think you were crazy if you started talking about this sort of stuff, and
even myself when it happened, I didn't. I didn't say much to anyone
except my cross as friends and family, because at least in the in the
mid night early to mid nineties, if you started talking about crazy stuff like
that, somebody would call a state and say, this guy's crazy. You
need to take his license away. So there was a real incentive to keep
your mouth shut. And at this point I continued following the path that the
music was dictating, and that's kind of where it has led me to where
I am now, which is that the music continues about other pieces of music
that have also come to me in a download fashion like the first piece did,
and it's all sitting near in my head, waiting for me to get
around to doing something with it. And you always, in part of my
reading I read about the great composers, and in very way, they all
would say similar things. Mozart was probably the most vocal about it, and
he always said that the music came to him in a finished form, all
he had to do was write it, and he wasn't alone. Beethoven would
make remark like that. Brohms always quoted his muse, and even even the
composers of in this age talk about music that they feel comes from some place.
I've often wondered, you know what's happened in my brain? Oliver always
said that he thought that the lightning had rewired part of my brain and allowed
me to have access to parts of the brain that didn't know I had,
and there may be some truth to that. One of the other groups of
people that I got pumped in with was a group that Darryl Treefort was a
physician who specialized in savants, and I had gotten womped into a group of
people called sudden savants, where these are people who had some sort of injury
to their brain and then developed from unusual ability that they didn't have before.
And I came to the realization that if it can happen accidentally to people,
then there should be a way to do it voluntarily. I don't think we
have the science of an understanding to be able to do that at this point
in time, So that's kind of where we are. Wow, that's absolutely
fascinating. Such an interesting and beautiful story, Tony. You did your outlook
on life change after your brush of death? Oh? Yeah, my outlookome
life changed dramatically. Prior to the lightning, I was I was held bent
on becoming an academic orthopedis. I was working on publishing papers. I was
the chairman of a big spying meeting that met yearly, and I was I
was being groomed to take over a spot in an academic department in Syracuse,
New York. And suddenly know those things mattered anymore. And though I completely
lost lost the drive that I that I had to go into academic medicine,
and people became much more important. My interactions with people became much more important.
So that was a fundamental shift. And I had grown up Catholic,
and suddenly I realized that Catholicism did not answer any of the the experience that
I had, which you know, did not believe in reincarnation and a lot
of the things that I knew to be true and the things that I knew
from the lightning experience that we don't die, our spirit was on. We
just keep going through this process of you know, you're born and die,
you go through this process of reincarnation, and you keep coming back and doing
this again. And I spent years trying to understand why that happens and what
it means, and what that come up with is that our spirits are always
trying to get back to the source, to become one with the Source,
whoever and whatever that is. But you have to go through a period of
vor and enlightenment to be worthy to be able to do that, and apparently
that takes a huge amount of time, although time is meaningless and really doesn't
exist in that realm. It was clear to me that that was the way
that was part of the understanding of what you went through and the whole point
was to develop spiritually and progress toward being worthy of going back to the sort.
And along that line, you know, as you go through through life,
either choose a positive or negative pathway, and then negative pathway is serviced
to sell you're more concerned about yourself than anyone else, and a positive pathway
it's just the opposite, more concerned about other people than yourself, And the
positive pathway is the pathway back to the source. And so you go through.
You go through these experiences and hopefully you grow with each one and you
go a correct pathway. But we all have something called free will, which
means that you can screw it up as many times as you want, and
you had the right to do that, but there's a price, and their
prices, and you just keep coming back and doing this again, so you
get a better understanding what it is you're doing here. So I have changed
a lot of who I am because I wanted to. It was just a
byproduct of everything I experienced. That makes sense, It makes absolute sense.
So really, from when you had the accident in nineteen ninety four, it
was a big transformation for you. Yes, yeah, it really was.
You know, you were an academic. You were an orthopedic surgeon, and
you would deal with a problem, wouldn't You wouldn't so much connect with patients.
You would just try and solve the problem that they had. So now
you were seeing people in a very different light. Yeah, you know,
like people were there was there was a whole other aspect of people. You
know, they weren't just somebody that fell down and broke something. They came
with a huge family, they came with a past history, and all of
those things became important to me Previously, I can't say that that was true.
I'm sure in the case of a lot of people which have lifelong careers
and professions, they kind of overlook what's really more important in life. Yeah.
What about some of the after effects you had this light and accident.
I mean you were in your early forties at the time. Yeah, I
was forty two when it happened. That was the challenging of itself. Did
you suffer from many effects from the lightning after? You know, I've often
wondered one of the things that I've had trouble with is that I've had part
arrhythmias for many years. I've often thought that that was a result of being
electrocuted. They have no way to prove that one way or the other.
It's always something that I've wondered about. But from a physical standpoint, you
know, I've never really lost anything that I had. I've gained many things
as a result of it. And I do believe that somehow the lightning gave
me access to parts of my brain that I didn't know I had access to,
and abilities that i had no idea I had access to, and I've
come to believe that everybody has them, we just don't know how to access
it. And one of the things that I learned from working doctor Treefort was
that he had put me into the group of people that all had praised similar
kinds of things. They had various injuries to their brain, either from illness,
cancer, surgery, you name it. They get hit in the head
with saying, but the one common healthy was there. They all developed unusual
abilities that they didn't have before as a result of it. And so,
you know, if it can happen to multiple people, there has to be
some underlying principle that we don't understand. That's right. You often hear of
stories which people have had an accident, usually to trauma to their head and
they wake up the next day and they're speaking a different language completely that they
had previously no knowledge of. The question is where is this from? Is
it already inside us? We know we have this big brain that we use
very very small sections of Do we contain all this information in our brain?
But we just simply just don't have the password for it? In your case,
you're obviously given this link to this side of you which you never had
before. Yeah. I think I think there's two parts through it. I
think one is that our brain has access to information that we don't understand.
You know, people have done calculations and come to the realization that there's no
way the brain could house all of this information, and it's just not big
enough. We have to be the size of a building to be able to
find that much information. And so the question then becomes what is memory and
where it is that housed? And a lot of people have speculated that memory
is actually contained in the fabric of the quantum universe, and that some people
can access that information more freely than others, but we all should be able
to. We just don't know how. It would make a lot more sense,
Like some kind of central hard drive that is or in all this information.
Yeah, those that are fortunately are able to access it, and it's
very possible that we all can over possibly over time we've lost the knowledge to
do this. You know, I truly believe that this music came to you
in a dream. Personally? Do you feel where this information comes from?
Do you think when when you passed over to the other side and you were
traveling down this river of bluish white light of absolute love and peace, do
you think it's possible that this music came from there? Yeah? I do
think the music always feels like it comes from some place, and that my
receiver part of the brain receives the information and brings it to me. I've
often thought that there's the unconscious part of the brain, which we really don't
understand, part of it at all is able to connect with some plates,
and I've often wakened it to a frequency that music exists on, and that
I'm able to connect to that frequency and hear the music that's there for coming
to me. And I've had a number of instances where I've had whole pieces
of music downloaded into my head, Like the first one was it just all
comes at one time, but it's like it's in a file and that file
is downloaded into my brain and now it's there, and at some point I
get around to doing something with it, and it's it's already there, ready
to go. It's just a matter of bringing it back up and putting it
on the screen and start to do something with it. So it truly it
feels like it's coming from a specific place and it comes in a specific form.
Just I don't know when another way to crib it now. I have
been listening to your music, you know, I do love piano music.
We often play music in the house and piano music really calms my pets down,
especially when there's a thunderstorm, is what we're going through this month.
I've been playing the music your music, Tony is very powerful. Yeah,
it certainly is, especially music that you really like. And they resonate with
Oliver did an interesting experiment and he and the man who was the head of
the BBC one at the time, a good friend, and they decided to
do this experiment where they had functional MRI imaging done their brains are three different
conditions. Music that they didn't like, music exactly like a little and music
that they absolutely loved and resonated with, And so they put themselves through this
experience, and they had the computer things set up so that if the brain
reacted, it would turn red from the functional MRI image. And so they
listened to music that they didn't really like, and the brain did absolutely nothing
enough, there was no red area that came alive. And then they listened
to music that they liked but we're not in love with, and the brain
reacted to that by making different areas that the brain turned red, so it
was spongy. And when they listened to music that they absolutely loved and resonated
with, the entire brain from the lot wall turned red, which is really
a departure from the way the brain normally treats things. The brain likes to
segregate. Our vision is over here, and hearing is over there, as
far us here, the leg is there, so everything has a has a
point. For the brain to completely react to one stimulus and in a completely
coordinated way, it's unlike what we normally expect the brain to do. And
I think that it speaks too to what we experience when we absolutely love something,
and that means that we are we resonate with whatever that is to the
point that we completely become one of it. Wonderful. Now I will make
your music available to our listeners. It's notes from an accidental pianist and composer.
I will add all links in a description. I suggest people go and
go and have a listen. It is remarkable. It's beautiful piece of music.
And TONI I used I used to playing publicly. I do it when
I'm asked to do it. I'll do a lecture concert where I'll be asked
to talk about this experience and to play the music and talk about talk about
the music. And it's always but that I continue to do those whenever I
may have And you say, you still get these downloads and you're still writing
this music and producing more. Yes, yeah, I still still write the
music, and you know, there's it's expanded some. I did a bigger
piece a few years ago for piano and orchestra that was a concerto, And
there have been lots of smaller pieces that have come in my brain. And
I've gotten to the boat where I can I can write things down. I
may not write the whole thing down, but write enough of it so that
when I sit down and play and music. It always takes me and connects
me to the music and where it exists. Either it's in my head or
it's in the quantum fabric. I'm not sure myself orre it comes from.
But when they need to here, that's absolutely amazing. But you know,
these accounts are just absolutely fascinating. It's also very reassuring when we lose loved
ones. It's good to know that the next place that is accessed it is
a beautiful place, that there is something more. If this was all that
there was, it would be a said world, would indeed, And I
think knowing that this isn't the end, that there is more, I think
people can appreciate what we have here now and the lives that we're living,
no matter how hard. It's all the big learning process. We're here to
learn and grow really and then knowing something as there is something else for us,
it's somewhat reassuring. I really appreciate you coming on sharing that all for
our listeners. Absolutely, thank you for inviting me again. It's always a
pleasure. Pleasure was all ours. Honestly, it was lovely to hear you
were okay. We really appreciate it well. Thank you, it was great
speaking to Take care and we will speak soon. Thanks Nick. You have
a good week. Yep, you too, enjoyed the rest of your day.
Thanks you too. Wonderful Bye for now. That is all for this
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