WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.919 --> 00:00:07.480 It's time for the Gardening Simplified show coming to you from Studio A. Here 2 00:00:07.519 --> 00:00:13.359 at proven winners Color Choice Shrubs with Stacy Hervella me Rick Weist, and our 3 00:00:13.400 --> 00:00:19.839 engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson Well Stacy. Many greenhouses and garden centers depend on 4 00:00:20.079 --> 00:00:27.120 shoppers who are decorators, so they're not necessarily horticulturists or maybe interested in the 5 00:00:27.320 --> 00:00:31.960 science of it all, or die hard gardeners for that matter, but they're 6 00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:39.359 interested in decorating using containers and color during the spring season and it's time to 7 00:00:39.479 --> 00:00:43.840 plant, you know, I think that the decorating approach is actually a very 8 00:00:43.960 --> 00:00:47.640 underrated approach to beiging plants. I agree. I think far too many people 9 00:00:47.679 --> 00:00:51.280 feel like they do need to be a horticulturist and they aren't, and therefore 10 00:00:51.280 --> 00:00:55.200 they just say Nope, not for me. Whereas I love that decorator mentality 11 00:00:55.200 --> 00:00:58.240 where you're just like, I love the color. I love that this is 12 00:00:58.280 --> 00:01:00.960 a seasonal decoration, you know, just like buying Christmas decorations or anything like 13 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:06.760 that. I think that that attitude makes gardening so much easier and so much 14 00:01:06.760 --> 00:01:08.680 more fun. You can get to the horticulture part later. You can always 15 00:01:08.719 --> 00:01:11.400 look that stuff up. That's just cold, hard facts. I am so 16 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:15.920 glad you said that, because I paint walls in my house and I am 17 00:01:17.159 --> 00:01:22.480 not skilled enough to paint those walls. I'm a horrible painter, but I 18 00:01:22.560 --> 00:01:26.359 do it anyhow because I want to. Oh well, that's good. It 19 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:30.280 also needs to be done well, probably more needs to be done. So 20 00:01:30.359 --> 00:01:34.640 if you're going to plant up some containers, try to pair plants with similar 21 00:01:34.920 --> 00:01:42.680 vigor. It's pretty frustrating if by July August one plant has overtaken the other. 22 00:01:42.920 --> 00:01:45.280 Well, that happens often, you know, honestly, even in the 23 00:01:45.280 --> 00:01:49.079 best combinations. And I find that, even though I may personally be aware 24 00:01:49.200 --> 00:01:53.239 of those differences in vigor issues, I usually just at that point in the 25 00:01:53.280 --> 00:01:57.719 season, let the most competitive plant just do its thing. Aha I do, 26 00:01:57.799 --> 00:02:01.040 and you know you can go out there and manage it. But that's 27 00:02:01.079 --> 00:02:04.879 like just different approaches to gardening. You know. If you want to pinch 28 00:02:04.920 --> 00:02:08.240 some things and try to keep everything in that tight little you know package like 29 00:02:08.280 --> 00:02:10.280 you bought it. No, I don't mind. Think it's getting a little 30 00:02:10.280 --> 00:02:14.039 more you know, wild and crazy, and it's like, okay, you 31 00:02:14.120 --> 00:02:16.000 won the race. Good for you grow the rest of the season. I 32 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:21.120 agree. I like that so at least match cultural needs. So if it's 33 00:02:21.120 --> 00:02:23.919 a plant that needs shade, match it with other plants that need shade. 34 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:28.240 I mean it seems obvious, although you know when you think about it, 35 00:02:28.280 --> 00:02:31.639 through the years, plants like colius or kalladiums have changed. You know, 36 00:02:31.879 --> 00:02:36.560 they used to be all shade plants. Now we can grow them in sun. 37 00:02:36.719 --> 00:02:43.560 So familiarize yourself with that, identify and incorporate upright filler and edging plants. 38 00:02:43.599 --> 00:02:47.360 We often talk about thriller, filler, spiller, and then have an 39 00:02:47.479 --> 00:02:54.120 understanding of color schematics, like opposites on the color wheel attract purple and a 40 00:02:54.199 --> 00:02:58.319 yellow or a blue and a yellow. As a matter of fact, there's 41 00:02:58.319 --> 00:03:02.080 a great link at proven Winters will teach you about color schematics and we'll put 42 00:03:02.080 --> 00:03:05.800 that in the show notes. Yeah, Christina just did a great article. 43 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:07.960 She knows a lot about colors. She's an artist herself, so it was 44 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:12.280 a really enlightening article. And you know, I think when it comes to 45 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:15.560 color now, this is where I think that designer mentality really comes in handy 46 00:03:16.000 --> 00:03:20.759 because a lot of people are picking based on horticultural and the designers are like, 47 00:03:21.080 --> 00:03:23.840 these are my colors, this is what I'm going for, And I 48 00:03:23.879 --> 00:03:28.919 think having that in mind as you go to the garden Center makes the journey 49 00:03:28.919 --> 00:03:31.520 so much more fun and so much more interesting. So for me, I 50 00:03:31.560 --> 00:03:36.240 don't really have like colors that I use all the time, but I do 51 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:38.919 have very colorful containers that I use consistently. I mean, they were an 52 00:03:38.919 --> 00:03:43.439 investment, they were expensive, They're beautiful glaze ceramic, so that I make 53 00:03:43.479 --> 00:03:46.919 sure that those are sort of determining my colors of what I'm going to put 54 00:03:46.919 --> 00:03:51.360 in them. But that queue can mean anything for any number of people. 55 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:53.080 It can if you have one of those really colorful front doors, you can, 56 00:03:53.240 --> 00:03:58.120 you know, put something in that calls that in shutters, whatever colors 57 00:03:58.159 --> 00:04:01.240 you like your furniture. There's just so many different ways to use color to 58 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:06.879 make your decision and just take away some of that fear and analysis paralysis that 59 00:04:06.960 --> 00:04:10.719 can come with being in the garden center in spring. Yeah, I like 60 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:16.720 that. A polychromatic look, just an explosion of color or something that's analogous 61 00:04:17.360 --> 00:04:20.279 where the colors are, you know, next to each other on the color 62 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:25.759 wheel. So just familiarize yourself with the color wheel and some of these schematics 63 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:31.720 that you can use. There's also classic versus unconventional pairings. I suggest you 64 00:04:32.160 --> 00:04:38.040 push the envelope. There's a joke, how many floral designers does it take 65 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:41.480 to change a light bulb? Does it have to be a light bulb? 66 00:04:41.560 --> 00:04:45.759 Because I had another idea? Right, so push the envelope. Well, 67 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:46.959 you know, I like that, and I do that too, because a 68 00:04:46.959 --> 00:04:49.639 lot of times I will go to the garden center with a vision in my 69 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:53.480 ad, these are the things that I want to do, and then they 70 00:04:53.480 --> 00:04:56.439 don't have some of the plants that I was hoping that they would have that 71 00:04:56.439 --> 00:04:59.120 they had last year, that I was relying on them to have. But 72 00:04:59.240 --> 00:05:03.720 what I have found by remaining flexible, if your cart at the garden center 73 00:05:03.759 --> 00:05:08.800 looks good, your containers are going to look good. Oh you know, 74 00:05:08.800 --> 00:05:12.199 because they're all together in the cart. And if you're sitting there going this 75 00:05:12.240 --> 00:05:14.839 stuff looks great, and go ahead, and you know you can put the 76 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:17.720 front porch stuff on the bottom shelf and the back porch stuff on the top 77 00:05:17.759 --> 00:05:19.800 shelf so you can really get a look at it. But if it's looking 78 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:23.480 good in the container, you can figure it out at home. I mean, 79 00:05:23.519 --> 00:05:26.759 I always throw in a handful of extra plants working with my color scheme, 80 00:05:26.759 --> 00:05:29.759 because you never know what inspiration is going to strike when you're actually at 81 00:05:29.800 --> 00:05:33.160 home doing it. Now you can see why Stacy's mom goes shopping with her 82 00:05:33.360 --> 00:05:38.279 at the gardens. See yes, right, Yeah, So it's not just 83 00:05:38.439 --> 00:05:43.240 annuals, vegetables, herbs, roses, shrubs, houseplants, bulbs. When 84 00:05:43.279 --> 00:05:47.319 we say bulbs, we're talking things like kalladiums, cannas, dahlia's, elephant 85 00:05:47.439 --> 00:05:51.759 ear, callo lilies, and of course perennials. Also, there are many 86 00:05:51.800 --> 00:05:57.800 great shrubs that you can put in containers. And of course, when considering 87 00:05:57.959 --> 00:06:02.360 herbs the plant in a container, I think the most important thing is looking 88 00:06:02.399 --> 00:06:08.519 at the amount of sunlight and water preferences. So I have found generally that 89 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:13.079 if you plant herbs like oregano, let's use that as an example, they're 90 00:06:13.160 --> 00:06:15.879 usually good for the outer rim of the pop. Yeah, and there's a 91 00:06:15.879 --> 00:06:20.079 lot of different types of oregano. But yeah, I I oregano. I 92 00:06:20.079 --> 00:06:24.839 could have an oregano lawn at my house if I want it. It's extremely 93 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:27.720 vigorous. I mean, I love it, But in a container, you 94 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:30.120 know, And also there's also those ornamental oreganos like Ken Beauty. I was 95 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:33.879 actually just showing that to Adriana a couple of weeks ago, that aren't really 96 00:06:33.879 --> 00:06:38.199 so much for herbs, but kind of go with that whole herb. You 97 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:44.680 know, look in a container. Absolutely store bought hanging baskets. I recommend 98 00:06:44.759 --> 00:06:47.079 in general, don't go with the basket that they're selling you. I mean, 99 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:51.639 they're great, they're wonderful, but I like to upsize hanging baskets. 100 00:06:51.680 --> 00:06:56.240 If it's a ten inch hanging basket, I like to have some baskets around 101 00:06:56.240 --> 00:07:00.800 where I can push it up to a twelve or a fourteen inch basket when 102 00:07:00.800 --> 00:07:03.560 it gets windy and dry and hot in summer. Stacy, you may be 103 00:07:03.639 --> 00:07:06.160 glad that you did. Right now. Do you have those kind of like 104 00:07:06.600 --> 00:07:11.600 metal containers with a cocoa liner, and so you just get like fourteen or 105 00:07:11.639 --> 00:07:14.759 sixteen inches of those, and then that's a smart idea and they look a 106 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:16.279 lot better than most of the containers. You know, if you're going to 107 00:07:16.360 --> 00:07:18.959 the garden center to get that. A lot of times you pay a premium 108 00:07:18.959 --> 00:07:23.160 for something that's not just a white plastic pot. So if you can get 109 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:27.279 it home and get it into your very handsome hanging baskets. And I like 110 00:07:27.399 --> 00:07:30.240 it out of the game. I like it with a combination planting of course, 111 00:07:30.319 --> 00:07:35.279 good soil, a good water source, feeding, and drainage. Those 112 00:07:35.279 --> 00:07:41.639 are the four to me key basics. And again I love the slow release 113 00:07:41.800 --> 00:07:46.600 Osma COT type of fertilizers and containers. I just think they take some of 114 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:48.639 the some of the effort and thinking out of it. Yeah, and you 115 00:07:48.639 --> 00:07:51.360 can do it right with a planting time, so it doesn't get much easier 116 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:57.040 than that. So I suggest that you push the envelope, that you stretch 117 00:07:57.079 --> 00:08:01.000 it a little bit and try a variety of plants in containers, have some 118 00:08:01.360 --> 00:08:05.680 fun with it. I personally believe there is not a right or a wrong. 119 00:08:07.199 --> 00:08:11.959 You need to express your personality what I do sometimes with extra plants that 120 00:08:13.399 --> 00:08:16.879 I've bought at the garden center, I just jam those last few in a 121 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:22.839 container and step back and see what happened. So I wrote a limerick for 122 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:26.079 that. Today. I'll try this plant, I thought, because I had 123 00:08:26.240 --> 00:08:31.399 over bought, I'll stick it right there. It could go anywhere. My 124 00:08:31.560 --> 00:08:35.559 garden has gone to pot. I really had good intention. No plant can 125 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:41.759 I abstention it's like putting it on a shelf. I can't contain myself. 126 00:08:41.200 --> 00:08:46.960 I need an intervention. You know. At the greenhouse this past week, 127 00:08:46.039 --> 00:08:50.360 I was talking to a young lady who loves gardening, and she made up 128 00:08:50.399 --> 00:08:56.360 her mind that she spent so much money on plants last year that this year 129 00:08:56.519 --> 00:09:01.720 she was not going to buy plants. First day the greenhouse was open, 130 00:09:03.440 --> 00:09:05.720 she had a cart full of I mean, how can you resist after a 131 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:09.960 lot of winter, and you know, honestly, like it's a pretty small 132 00:09:11.039 --> 00:09:16.080 investment for how much joy it gives you over the entire summer. I think 133 00:09:16.919 --> 00:09:22.799 absolutely. Now, don't forget perennials, Like I said, Hugh Curra's Serendipity, 134 00:09:22.000 --> 00:09:28.000 Alien and the Rock and gross Setums, Cat's Pajamas, Nepeta, all 135 00:09:28.039 --> 00:09:35.240 of those do really well. Chantilli lace Aruncus, Tuscan's sun heliops. There 136 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:41.639 are so many great perennials. And remember that if you use them in your 137 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:46.679 container's next fall, you could put them in the ground overwinter them in the 138 00:09:46.759 --> 00:09:48.519 ground, and then stacey use them again next year. You know, I 139 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:52.639 think that's an especially great piece of advice for something like hukara, where you 140 00:09:52.679 --> 00:09:56.080 know when you're putting your container together and you feel like it just needs a 141 00:09:56.159 --> 00:10:01.440 little something extra. But you've been around the annual second like seven times already, 142 00:10:01.960 --> 00:10:05.080 nothing's jumping out at you. And you know, go and get those 143 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:07.679 hugras. They're a perfect foliage accent. They're perfect size for putting in a 144 00:10:07.720 --> 00:10:11.559 container. You can find just about any color and then yeah, you can 145 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:13.559 just break it out and put it in the ground in the fall. I've 146 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:18.799 seen that many times colorful all year long. I can't contain myself. As 147 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:22.480 a matter of fact, I can't wait to hear what Stacy has in plants 148 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:33.039 on trial that's coming up next here on the Gardening Simplified Show. Prooven Winners 149 00:10:33.080 --> 00:10:37.159 Colored Choice Shrubs cares about your success in the garden. That's why we trial 150 00:10:37.279 --> 00:10:39.639 and test all of our shrubs for eight to ten years, making sure they 151 00:10:39.679 --> 00:10:43.679 outperform everything else on the market. Look for them and the distinctive white container 152 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:50.639 at your local garden center. Greeting's gardening friends, and welcome back to the 153 00:10:50.720 --> 00:10:54.279 Gardening Simplified Show, where the word of the day is recipe, recipes for 154 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:58.080 containers, Recipes in the garden. And I think this is an area where 155 00:10:58.120 --> 00:11:03.000 a lot of people really get tripped up. I mean, I'm guessing from 156 00:11:03.159 --> 00:11:05.320 all of the emails that I've seen from you know, home gardeners over the 157 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:09.720 years where they write to Proven Winners and they say, can you tell me 158 00:11:09.879 --> 00:11:13.559 what plants I should put with X? Yes? And I find these questions 159 00:11:13.639 --> 00:11:16.639 the hardest to answer, not because I don't know those plants, but because 160 00:11:16.679 --> 00:11:20.799 I do think they're a matter of personal taste. You know, what do 161 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:24.279 you what's your color, what's the look you're going for? You know, 162 00:11:24.399 --> 00:11:26.559 what kind of thing do you like. Do you want like one shining moment 163 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:30.879 where everything is just going gangbusters, or do you want to kind of have 164 00:11:31.440 --> 00:11:33.919 some things going in early summer, some things at peak in midsummer, and 165 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:37.240 you know, kind of spread the display out. So I feel like it's 166 00:11:37.279 --> 00:11:41.840 such a personal issue. But that said, we do have a number of 167 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:45.840 resources through Proven Winners to help you create these recipes. And of course, 168 00:11:46.240 --> 00:11:48.120 if you go to a garden center that sells Proven Winners annuals, you're going 169 00:11:48.200 --> 00:11:52.799 to see a lot of those recipes already created by professionals for sale in their 170 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:56.879 hanging baskets, in their combo containers, and lots of things like that. 171 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:00.799 So they can. You can not do the work if you want, But 172 00:12:00.960 --> 00:12:03.639 I personally find combining plants, especially annuals, is one of my favorite things 173 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:07.639 that I do all year. So we will put links in our show notes 174 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:11.679 at Gardeningsimplified on air dot com you can see the Proven Winners recipes and we'll 175 00:12:11.720 --> 00:12:16.960 also link you to a really fun program through the Perennial partner for Proven Winners 176 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:22.840 called Easescapes, where they have also used experts to put together combinations of perennials 177 00:12:22.960 --> 00:12:28.080 kind of little mini gardens that are very easy for you to translate into you 178 00:12:28.120 --> 00:12:31.159 know how you can put these in your yard and have a similar looks. 179 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:33.000 We have lots and lots of resources for you, but I will say, 180 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:37.840 you know, just knowing the light exposure that a plant needs, like you 181 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:43.000 said, Rick, if that is similar to the plant that you're trying to 182 00:12:43.080 --> 00:12:46.600 pair with, then you kind of can't go wrong. And if you do 183 00:12:46.879 --> 00:12:50.440 go wrong, at least in your eyes you think something doesn't look great, 184 00:12:50.480 --> 00:12:52.320 you can always move it. Yeah, you know, it's a pretty low 185 00:12:52.440 --> 00:12:58.279 stakes kind of thing. And these recipes on Proven Winn's site are fantastic to 186 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:03.720 scroll through. They're inspir they've got great names. But I would ask you, 187 00:13:03.399 --> 00:13:07.679 Stacey, when you're when you're cooking and following a recipe, do you 188 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:13.320 take liberties with the recipe like you got see? I mean, how can 189 00:13:13.399 --> 00:13:16.080 you not? Like, even if you feel like the recipe is pretty sound, 190 00:13:16.200 --> 00:13:20.039 you still have to take liberties with what you know your equipment can do. 191 00:13:20.519 --> 00:13:22.919 Like I know that my stove runs really hot, so if it says 192 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:26.519 put it on medium high heat, I know that for me is not you 193 00:13:26.600 --> 00:13:30.919 know, a seven or eight. I know that's like a four on my 194 00:13:31.159 --> 00:13:33.080 time my stove. So you know, you get to know all these little 195 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:37.480 nuances and that's that's called learning. That's how you become a better gardener. 196 00:13:37.559 --> 00:13:41.080 What a great analogy. So you can get inspired by these recipes at Provenwinners 197 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:45.879 dot com and then have some fun. Yeah, and if you don't feel 198 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:48.240 like doing it again, there are plenty of professionals who will do it for 199 00:13:48.320 --> 00:13:50.279 you at your local garden center. But I would say give it a stab. 200 00:13:50.399 --> 00:13:54.080 It's it's my favorite thing to do whenever year, I discover interesting new 201 00:13:54.720 --> 00:14:01.120 combinations. So, speaking of recipes, today's plant on trial is an edible 202 00:14:01.240 --> 00:14:05.759 shrub sounds delicious. It is delicious. Now, I think when most people 203 00:14:05.799 --> 00:14:09.399 think of an edible shrub, if indeed they even do think of an edible 204 00:14:09.440 --> 00:14:13.879 shrub, they are thinking things like blueberries, raspberries, if you're from a 205 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:18.039 warmer climate, maybe pomegranate is a shrubby plant. If they're really into esoteric 206 00:14:18.120 --> 00:14:22.879 stuff, currants, gooseberries, quints, elderberry. I don't think that when 207 00:14:22.960 --> 00:14:28.759 most people think about an edible shrub they're thinking of roses. I would agree, 208 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:30.639 yeah, because they think, ooh, thorns. They just think of 209 00:14:30.679 --> 00:14:33.240 the whole plant, like, you can't need a rose, it's real thorny. 210 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:37.879 Now, even if someone does think about a rose as an edible plant, 211 00:14:37.879 --> 00:14:41.840 they're probably thinking of the rose hips, yes, or the fruits from 212 00:14:41.919 --> 00:14:46.879 the rose, which are used in many cultures in jellies, juice, tea. 213 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:50.639 They're very high in vitamin sea, so you can even get like rose 214 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:54.159 hip supplements from you know, health food stores and that kind of thing. 215 00:14:54.639 --> 00:14:56.919 And they're beautiful. That's why the birds eat them. And in fact, 216 00:14:56.200 --> 00:15:01.080 that high vitamin sea content in roses is also why deer eat them despite their 217 00:15:01.159 --> 00:15:05.399 thorns, because they eat them almost as a compulsion because they need the vitamin 218 00:15:05.519 --> 00:15:09.440 C in the Glant, and I think the hips sometimes compete with the flowers 219 00:15:09.519 --> 00:15:11.600 for beauty they didn't do yeah, and especially like in fall, when you 220 00:15:11.679 --> 00:15:16.399 get a little bit of both going. So hips are beautiful and edible, 221 00:15:18.000 --> 00:15:22.360 but they are not the only edible part about a rose. Roses have actually 222 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:26.919 been eaten in many, many cultures for centuries, and they've really only kind 223 00:15:26.960 --> 00:15:31.360 of fallen out of favor as a food source in Western cultures, where we 224 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:33.679 tend not to think about them anymore, but they still have a long tradition 225 00:15:33.879 --> 00:15:37.799 in many other cultures. And it isn't just the hips, it is the 226 00:15:37.960 --> 00:15:43.919 petals themselves. And I'm really excited to talk about this new edible rose in 227 00:15:43.960 --> 00:15:50.480 the proven Winter's color Choice line called Flavorette Honey Apricot Rose. Now, if 228 00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:52.919 this might not be the first time you've been hearing about it, because we 229 00:15:54.080 --> 00:15:58.240 have been seeing it everywhere in the press. It's in the Gardener's Idea book 230 00:15:58.279 --> 00:16:00.440 this year, which you can read online if you haven't looked at that. 231 00:16:00.960 --> 00:16:06.279 It's on the front cover a fine gardening magazine coming up, and it's really 232 00:16:06.440 --> 00:16:10.919 just a spectacular rose. This is the first year it's going to be available 233 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:15.440 at Garden centers, and obviously I want to talk about the way it looks. 234 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:18.200 You have a face for the name here as we talk more about the 235 00:16:18.279 --> 00:16:23.639 rose. So it is kind of an apricot color, this beautiful peachy orange 236 00:16:23.759 --> 00:16:30.000 kind of color. And it's a very full rose flower, so double triple 237 00:16:30.080 --> 00:16:32.799 petals, you know, not one of those ones where you're seeing the center 238 00:16:32.960 --> 00:16:36.039 like a single rose. So not the best for pollinators, but really just 239 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:40.960 that beautiful old fashioned charm. It is a larger rose, five to eight 240 00:16:41.039 --> 00:16:42.799 feet tall and about four to five feet wide, so this isn't one of 241 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:48.360 those little groundcover roses. But what's so special about it is that it comes 242 00:16:48.399 --> 00:16:53.639 to us from a breeding program in Serbia where they were specifically looking for edible 243 00:16:53.720 --> 00:16:57.519 roses. Fascinating, isn't it. So we've talked a lot on the show 244 00:16:57.559 --> 00:17:02.039 in the past about how breeders when they are setting out to develop a new 245 00:17:02.080 --> 00:17:06.200 plant have different goals, and very often, and certainly for the last thirty 246 00:17:06.279 --> 00:17:08.599 years or so, in the rose industry, the goal has always been disease 247 00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:12.000 resistance. That was the hot topic. And I think that now that the 248 00:17:12.079 --> 00:17:18.920 disease resistance sort of hurdle has been overcome, now breeders are starting to turn 249 00:17:18.960 --> 00:17:22.640 their attention to other factors. We know we can get disease resistance, So 250 00:17:22.720 --> 00:17:26.640 how do we get those big, full flowers and disease resistance. How do 251 00:17:26.720 --> 00:17:30.799 we get delicious flowers? How do we get fragrant flowers? And that's really 252 00:17:30.839 --> 00:17:34.400 what this breeding team in Serbia called Phenogena Roses is doing. And so flavor 253 00:17:34.400 --> 00:17:40.720 At Honey apricot is our first introduction from them, and they have really been 254 00:17:41.119 --> 00:17:45.079 developing these roses for different flavor profiles, which is a really cool idea. 255 00:17:45.640 --> 00:17:48.160 I mean, you know, if you've ever been to a rose garden that 256 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:51.440 was in full bloom, you know, if you're going around and smelling the 257 00:17:51.519 --> 00:17:55.160 roses, they don't all smell the same. They all have unique fragrances. 258 00:17:55.720 --> 00:17:59.000 And it's the same with their flavors, because of course, fragrance and flavor 259 00:17:59.079 --> 00:18:03.279 are very very close tied together. So in their program they've been sampling for 260 00:18:03.359 --> 00:18:07.279 these different flavors. Now, Flavorrete honey apricot, our first introduction, does 261 00:18:07.440 --> 00:18:11.440 actually taste like honey and apricot now, I mean not like having you know, 262 00:18:11.759 --> 00:18:15.640 a piece of bubblegum or something that's some certain flavor it's not quite that 263 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:19.839 strong, but it is distinctively different from the other varieties of flavor at So 264 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:23.920 there's a second flavor ate variety called Flavorette peared, which tastes like pears. 265 00:18:23.960 --> 00:18:27.559 Now that'll be out next year, so we're just going to focus on Flavorette, 266 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:33.000 honey, apricot. But they've been trialing for these all these different flavors, 267 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:40.079 working with chefs in Serbia to create unique recipes that really highlight these individual 268 00:18:40.599 --> 00:18:45.119 distinctive flavors. And in addition to the flavor, they're looking for petal texture. 269 00:18:45.720 --> 00:18:48.839 So you know, when you get lettuce, it's not like the lettuce 270 00:18:48.880 --> 00:18:51.680 breeders just say, oh it's green and edible, go and have at it. 271 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:56.000 They're also looking for lettuces that are soft and you know, enjoyable to 272 00:18:56.079 --> 00:18:57.160 chew. They don't want, you know, one wants a stringy, bitter 273 00:18:57.240 --> 00:19:03.920 lettuce. So they have similar been testing these petals for their edibility. Are 274 00:19:03.000 --> 00:19:07.039 they lush, are they soft? Are they very sweet without a lot of 275 00:19:07.119 --> 00:19:11.960 bitterness. So it's a kind of a combination of flavor and texture that makes 276 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:15.759 flavor at roses so different, and you can see why there's so much variation 277 00:19:15.079 --> 00:19:19.960 in how they work with this, because think about the perfume industry how they 278 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:25.839 work with roses and all the different types of sense it would make sense to 279 00:19:25.920 --> 00:19:32.440 do that for roses that we're going to eat. I can picture flavorette honey 280 00:19:32.480 --> 00:19:36.440 apricot rose on a salad in summer. Oh yeah, it's beautiful. It 281 00:19:36.480 --> 00:19:40.000 looks absolutely gorgeous on the plate, even if you never harvest it. It 282 00:19:40.119 --> 00:19:44.279 is gorgeous in the garden because again it has those beautiful old fashioned flowers that 283 00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:47.880 people like so much. Now, I will say, if you're getting this 284 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:51.960 plant, you don't just kind of pop a handful of petals in your mouth, 285 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:55.559 and you generally, if you're eating the petal on its own, you 286 00:19:55.640 --> 00:19:57.200 want to kind of avoid the base of the petal. So when you have 287 00:19:57.319 --> 00:20:00.000 the petal, you'll see that the base is white. It's a little bit 288 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:03.599 bitter and pithier down there. It's still edible. It's not gonna hurt you. 289 00:20:03.640 --> 00:20:07.759 It just kind of takes away from that flavorite honey apricot experience. So 290 00:20:07.960 --> 00:20:11.000 just go ahead, like an artichoke or something, hold it by that end 291 00:20:11.079 --> 00:20:14.720 and then take a bite off the soft pedally end. You can chew it 292 00:20:14.839 --> 00:20:17.480 up and really taste the flavors. But like you said, in a salad, 293 00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:21.200 just sprinkled over a salad is beautiful. There's so many things you can 294 00:20:21.279 --> 00:20:25.119 do with it. You can layer it in sugar. So take the fresh 295 00:20:25.200 --> 00:20:29.480 rose petals, layer them in a closed jar with a bunch of sugar, 296 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:33.960 and that will actually flavor the sugar with a flavorite honey apricot scent. And 297 00:20:34.000 --> 00:20:38.119 you can use that in tea or baking or anything iced tea. Oh, 298 00:20:38.160 --> 00:20:41.920 that would beautiful. That's a great idea, so really versatile, really kind 299 00:20:41.960 --> 00:20:47.759 of just I think opens the door and opens people's minds about what roses can 300 00:20:47.839 --> 00:20:52.519 really do in the garden and in the kitchen. Love it You rose to 301 00:20:52.599 --> 00:20:55.640 the occasion, Stacey, Well, you can rise to the occasion too by 302 00:20:55.680 --> 00:21:00.200 adding flavorite honey apricot rose to your garden. I can't get to talk a 303 00:21:00.279 --> 00:21:03.880 lot today about rose culture or growing it, but of course all of that 304 00:21:03.000 --> 00:21:07.960 information will be in the show notes at Gardeningsimplified on air dot com, as 305 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:11.039 well as pictures of flavor at Honey Apricot Rows, so you can see for 306 00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:17.920 yourself how beautiful, unique and interesting this brand new edible rose actually is We're 307 00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:18.920 going to take a little break. When we come back, we're opening up 308 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:30.119 the garden mail bags, so please stay tuned. At proven winner's color choice, 309 00:21:30.319 --> 00:21:33.240 We've got a shrub for every taste and every space. Whether you're looking 310 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:37.640 for an easycare rose, an unforgettable hydrangea, or something new and unique, 311 00:21:37.839 --> 00:21:41.119 you can be confident that the shrubs and the white containers have been trialed and 312 00:21:41.240 --> 00:21:48.240 tested for your success. Look for them at your local garden center. Greeting's 313 00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:52.039 gardening friends, and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. It is one 314 00:21:52.079 --> 00:21:55.160 of my favorite times of the week where we owe it up that garden mail 315 00:21:55.200 --> 00:21:59.559 bag and help people with their questions. I certainly understand what it's like to 316 00:21:59.599 --> 00:22:02.440 be out there. They're going, what do I do? And you're out 317 00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:04.160 there, you got your gardening clothes on, you got your tools out there, 318 00:22:04.200 --> 00:22:07.880 you said, oh, I'm not gonna wait to get the right answer, 319 00:22:07.880 --> 00:22:10.799 I'm just gonna do something now, and then you go and regret that. 320 00:22:11.039 --> 00:22:14.240 I mean, I've been there, done that myself, so we can 321 00:22:14.279 --> 00:22:15.960 help you prevent that. If you would like to reach us at Gardening Simplified 322 00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:18.799 on air dot com, you can send us a message. We will be 323 00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:22.000 happy to help you out. If we can't get to your question right away 324 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:25.640 and you need an answer, there are lots of other ways to get a 325 00:22:25.680 --> 00:22:29.240 hold of us. You can actually just go to proovenwinners dot com, click 326 00:22:29.279 --> 00:22:32.920 on feedback questions. We're listening and you will get a personalized answer from one 327 00:22:32.960 --> 00:22:37.000 of our horticulturists, whether it's about Trumb's perennials, annuals, houseplans. We 328 00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:41.279 got you. Don't get scared now. Like I always say, maintain your 329 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:45.440 composture. We'll get through this together. Hey, Stacy, Genie has written 330 00:22:45.519 --> 00:22:49.680 to us. I garden in New York Zone seven B, where I've been 331 00:22:49.720 --> 00:22:56.880 growing two limelight high ranges in huge twenty two inch containers for the past four 332 00:22:56.039 --> 00:23:00.759 years. That's fantastic. Ye, Recently, I've noticed something that I've never 333 00:23:00.799 --> 00:23:04.279 seen before. There's some white coating on the branches, looks waxy. Thinking 334 00:23:04.319 --> 00:23:08.799 it was some kind of fungus, I cut the branches even harder back to 335 00:23:08.920 --> 00:23:12.799 find it again just a few days later. Please advise me what's going on 336 00:23:14.079 --> 00:23:18.519 with them. I'm really worried since this is the very first time this has 337 00:23:18.880 --> 00:23:22.359 heard. Yes, So Genie sent some photos of her issue, and then 338 00:23:23.119 --> 00:23:27.480 Adrian I was reviewing comments on YouTube and sent me this one. A YouTube 339 00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:33.160 viewer asked, I noticed my limelight hydrange has been severely oozing sap after the 340 00:23:33.200 --> 00:23:36.960 branch being cut. What's going on? What has been happening to three of 341 00:23:37.000 --> 00:23:40.880 my hydrange's and this has been happening to three of my hydrange's in containers? 342 00:23:41.559 --> 00:23:47.599 Is this normal? And I would say it's not common, but it's not 343 00:23:47.799 --> 00:23:52.039 abnormal either. And having looked at Genie's photos and thinking about the time of 344 00:23:52.160 --> 00:23:56.559 year, what I believe is happening here is that the sap is actually oozing 345 00:23:56.640 --> 00:24:00.400 out and drawing on the plteam. I shouldn't say ooze because it is not 346 00:24:00.559 --> 00:24:06.119 oozy at all. It's actually quite watery. It looks just like water. 347 00:24:06.119 --> 00:24:07.640 You wouldn't even be able to tell, So it's not like sticky like you 348 00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:14.200 think of pine sap or something like that. But it's not uncommon for woody 349 00:24:14.240 --> 00:24:19.279 plants, shrubs and trees that are pruned in spring to have some sap flow 350 00:24:19.759 --> 00:24:25.440 when you cut them. Now, some plants are notoriously worse at this than 351 00:24:25.559 --> 00:24:29.839 others. I know. I learn in horticulture school never cut a birch in 352 00:24:30.000 --> 00:24:33.279 spring. But you know, one spring, I was working in a public 353 00:24:33.359 --> 00:24:37.119 garden and there was this birch tree and I think, you know, the 354 00:24:37.640 --> 00:24:41.400 one of the lower branches had gotten damaged by snow and ice and so it 355 00:24:41.440 --> 00:24:44.759 was kind of like hanging. So I needed it to prune it off. 356 00:24:44.799 --> 00:24:47.799 The tree didn't even think, you know, you're in the zone. You're 357 00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:49.279 just doing your work. You don't think, whoa birch not gonna prune it 358 00:24:49.319 --> 00:24:53.000 in spring? So I pruned this thing and oh my gosh, it was 359 00:24:53.039 --> 00:24:57.720 like someone had turned on a faucet. It like it didn't quite spew out 360 00:24:57.799 --> 00:25:03.359 with force, but it just it was running like running water. It was 361 00:25:03.920 --> 00:25:07.359 alarming. And a lot of times that sap flow. Of course, again, 362 00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:08.880 as I said, some plants are more susceptible than others, But that 363 00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:14.279 satflow is really just a question of what are the conditions in the plant and 364 00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:18.759 the weather when you prune it, And that sap flow can go at different 365 00:25:18.839 --> 00:25:22.920 rates at different times, and sometimes when you cut it you might actually see 366 00:25:22.960 --> 00:25:26.599 it coming out of the plant, and if it's really heavy, it might 367 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:30.839 actually drip on the plant and dry. And then because it is containing like 368 00:25:30.240 --> 00:25:33.720 sugar, salts, all those kinds of things in the sap, because the 369 00:25:33.839 --> 00:25:37.400 SAP is a combination of the xylumin flow on the water and the food, 370 00:25:37.480 --> 00:25:42.920 the sugar water that's sustaining the plants, all of that. As that moisture 371 00:25:42.960 --> 00:25:47.319 dissolves, the water dissolves out of the sap, what you're left with is 372 00:25:47.359 --> 00:25:52.319 that kind of condensate, that sort of crystalline kind of structure on the plant. 373 00:25:52.440 --> 00:25:56.039 So I can't tell you precisely why this year over any other year your 374 00:25:56.119 --> 00:26:00.279 plants might be dripping sap. It's just something that happened. Yeah, I 375 00:26:00.359 --> 00:26:03.079 say, grow with the flow, you know, if it's if it's sending 376 00:26:03.160 --> 00:26:07.000 out some sap, I think it's an indication that the roots and stems are 377 00:26:07.079 --> 00:26:11.680 healthy and they're doing what they do and there's good, good flow. I 378 00:26:11.759 --> 00:26:15.720 mean, that's part of the reason I get an annual check up myself. 379 00:26:15.839 --> 00:26:18.880 I mean, they're checking my cholesterol levels and that kind of thing, right 380 00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:22.880 right. And and so I think because people do tend to think of sap 381 00:26:22.079 --> 00:26:26.680 as blood, they kind of freak out when they see this because they think 382 00:26:26.720 --> 00:26:30.440 that their plant is literally bleeding to death, And the simple fact is that 383 00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:34.519 it's probably not harmful for your plant to have this SAP flow. I mean, 384 00:26:34.559 --> 00:26:37.640 you certainly want to avoid it just from a you know, best practices 385 00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:41.400 standpoint, But if it happens, it's not the end of the world. 386 00:26:41.440 --> 00:26:45.240 It doesn't mean your plant is going to die or really be harmed in any 387 00:26:45.319 --> 00:26:49.759 way, so don't panic. They do not recommend doing anything to try to 388 00:26:49.799 --> 00:26:53.279 staunch the flow. The plant will automatically eventually do that on its own. 389 00:26:55.079 --> 00:26:56.359 And then you know, of course, if there is like any mess that 390 00:26:56.440 --> 00:27:00.440 you can clean that up, will just dry it off or whatever, and 391 00:27:00.599 --> 00:27:03.319 then you know, just to be on the safe side, I would say, 392 00:27:03.440 --> 00:27:07.799 if you have prune a plant that had a very very heavy SAT flow, 393 00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:11.640 give it a little fertilizer, keep an eye on it. Just make 394 00:27:11.680 --> 00:27:15.200 sure it doesn't experience any stress that might further set it back, because again, 395 00:27:15.240 --> 00:27:18.319 it is losing some water in nutrients. It's not like blood. The 396 00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:22.200 plant is not bleeding to death. But you know, you just want to 397 00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:25.559 give it the best chances at recovering from any little bit of stress that it 398 00:27:25.680 --> 00:27:29.839 did have. But I'd accept compliments on its robust health, yeah, I 399 00:27:29.880 --> 00:27:33.480 would. Jim's asking us a question, and it's something a lot of people 400 00:27:33.559 --> 00:27:37.119 deal with. We have a large perennial bed with a number of fairly young 401 00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:41.559 plants. There's a fair amount of space which we cover with bark mulch. 402 00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:45.119 The bed is overhung by a large maple tree. Oh, I see what's 403 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:51.240 coming. Samaras, the little helicopters in vast quantities in the spring. If 404 00:27:51.279 --> 00:27:55.079 we put down the bark mulch early, they fall and fall making a layer 405 00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:59.319 on top of the mulch, and we spend hours picking them off before they 406 00:27:59.440 --> 00:28:03.240 sprout. If we mulch after the samaras have dropped, would the layer of 407 00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:08.720 mault suffocate them and stop them from sprouting or would they just fight their way 408 00:28:08.839 --> 00:28:14.559 through. I had a customer once Stacey, who purchased a large amount of 409 00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:19.440 bark mulch and then called back a month later to complain because the bark mulch 410 00:28:19.640 --> 00:28:23.319 was full of weed seeds. And I went to this house to inspect and 411 00:28:23.400 --> 00:28:29.880 a they were all box elder selings that were popping up through the bark mulch. 412 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:34.680 And that's what happens that unique design for maple trees. Those helicopters a 413 00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:41.240 papery wing, and that's how they send their seeds out to look for a 414 00:28:41.359 --> 00:28:45.440 new planting ground, right, because if they just dropped directly below the tree, 415 00:28:45.480 --> 00:28:48.119 that'd be a tough place to grow, even though a lot to drop 416 00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:52.880 directly exactly. So, first all shout out to Jim for using the proper 417 00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:57.200 term samara. It's not a great word, samara. Samara. I love 418 00:28:57.279 --> 00:29:02.200 that word, so helicopters does not do them justice, even if it is 419 00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:07.880 descriptive. Samara is much more poetic. So my advice here, I don't 420 00:29:07.880 --> 00:29:11.680 think that the mulch is going to be enough to keep these plants down, 421 00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:15.319 even though I have found in my experience I have a huge silver maple in 422 00:29:15.400 --> 00:29:18.559 my front yard. I have found that it's not by choice, just happens 423 00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:22.559 to be there. It puts out a huge amount of helicopters all over the 424 00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:26.960 yard, and I find that actually very few of them germinate. Sometimes I 425 00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:30.000 think the thicker they fall, the less likely they are to germinate, because 426 00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:33.119 they're kind of like competing each other, and squirrels will get in there and 427 00:29:33.279 --> 00:29:36.079 you know, eat them, some of them dry up or whatever. My 428 00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:41.480 advice would actually be to put down a pre emergent, like a granular pre 429 00:29:41.599 --> 00:29:47.480 emergent that prevents weed seeds from germinating. If you're not trying to grow anything 430 00:29:47.519 --> 00:29:49.079 else in this bed, you know, you're not growing vegetables from seed or 431 00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:53.519 flowers or anything like that, it's already planted. I would actually put down 432 00:29:53.720 --> 00:29:57.599 some preventative, you know, pre emergent herbicide, and then put your mulch 433 00:29:57.720 --> 00:30:00.640 and that pre emergent herbicide. Usually they last, you know, pretty good 434 00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:06.519 long time, and that will prevent any seeds that do fall in the garden 435 00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:10.480 from sprouting. I don't think that I would recommend putting the mulch over them. 436 00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:14.720 You know, I've received a lot of calls on this throughout the years, 437 00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:19.319 and Jim mentioned here that they've spent hours picking them before they sprout. 438 00:30:19.960 --> 00:30:22.960 That's not you know, you want to spend your time doing something else. 439 00:30:23.359 --> 00:30:29.359 And I have found if in lawn areas they sprout, let's say you've er 440 00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:33.440 rated your lawn. The point with these samaras is, if they do sprout, 441 00:30:33.839 --> 00:30:37.480 if you cut the tops off them, they'll give up. They got 442 00:30:37.519 --> 00:30:40.759 nothing left. They've got nothing left, so you cut that foliage off them. 443 00:30:40.839 --> 00:30:44.400 So if they're in the lawn, cut you cut the tops off you're 444 00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:47.640 done. You don't have to apply anything to deal with them. And I 445 00:30:47.720 --> 00:30:52.200 think potentially that could work in a landscape bed too, with a weed whacker. 446 00:30:52.920 --> 00:30:56.200 Just a suggestion, right, take the tops off they're going to give 447 00:30:56.279 --> 00:30:57.359 up. Oh, that's not a bad idea. Just walk on them. 448 00:30:57.559 --> 00:31:03.079 They're pretty delicates, so they might not be able to withstand foot traffic either. 449 00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:06.640 I think we have time for one mare, Okay, Jessica. Right. 450 00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:08.599 So, I've noticed one of my local big box stores has a habit 451 00:31:08.920 --> 00:31:14.240 of overwatering their plants and then putting them cheap in clearance when they get brown 452 00:31:14.279 --> 00:31:18.200 and wilty. I don't want to encourage their bad practices, but I've figured 453 00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:22.319 that if they're on clearance, they won't be getting as much encouragement to keep 454 00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:26.599 doing it. Do you guys have any recommendations for taking care of plants that 455 00:31:26.839 --> 00:31:30.440 have been overloved with the water? Oh boy, I could talk about three 456 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:36.160 hours on this topic. Well, you know that we've talked about it before 457 00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:40.400 when we've talked about flooding and overwatering and everything. And the bottom line is 458 00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:45.000 if a plant has been overwatered, the one thing it needs is oxygen exactly. 459 00:31:45.240 --> 00:31:48.559 And if you can get an overwatered plant oxygen very often you can save 460 00:31:48.599 --> 00:31:52.319 it. And I've you know, certainly seen many people do this when they've 461 00:31:52.400 --> 00:31:56.680 overwatered their shrubs by planting them in an amended hole with a bunch of you 462 00:31:56.759 --> 00:32:00.279 know, bathtub effect. So I'll composts and stuff in there. So I 463 00:32:00.279 --> 00:32:04.400 would say, get these plants out of their containers. That's going to help 464 00:32:04.440 --> 00:32:07.079 the water dry more quickly. That's going to help them, that's get oxygen. 465 00:32:07.720 --> 00:32:12.119 And I think, you know, provided the conditions improve reasonably quickly, 466 00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:15.559 they should the plant should be just fine. Now, I would encourage you 467 00:32:15.720 --> 00:32:19.039 to not like, put this directly in the sun. I'll have those roots 468 00:32:19.079 --> 00:32:22.119 exposed directly to the sun. You can put like a piece of cheese cloth 469 00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:24.640 or newspaper or something over that. Keep it in a shaded spot, just 470 00:32:24.680 --> 00:32:29.079 so it's getting good air circulation and not direct sun. Yeah, you're getting 471 00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:34.400 a bargain, so enjoy it. I was in a garden center last year 472 00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:37.680 and there was a young man watering dead plants. I had a little bit 473 00:32:37.720 --> 00:32:40.359 of fun with him. We had a great conversation, and I'll just leave 474 00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:45.359 it there. Well. Jessica did include photos of some of the plants that 475 00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:47.839 she has recently rescued. They are lavenders, and I'm telling you, Jessica, 476 00:32:47.960 --> 00:32:52.799 if you can rescue a lavender like you have your good to go because 477 00:32:52.799 --> 00:32:55.119 they're one of the most sensitive about overwatering. We're going to take a little 478 00:32:55.119 --> 00:32:58.440 break. When we come back, we've got branching news. You won't want 479 00:32:58.440 --> 00:33:07.079 to miss it, so stay tuned. The Gardening Simplified Show is brought to 480 00:33:07.119 --> 00:33:12.079 you by proven Winner's Color Choice Shrubs. Our award winning flowering shrubs and evergreens 481 00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:15.960 have been trialed and tested for your success so you enjoy more beauty and less 482 00:33:16.000 --> 00:33:21.240 work. Look for proven Winners Color Choice Shrubs and the distinctive white container at 483 00:33:21.279 --> 00:33:25.960 your local garden center. Welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. It's time 484 00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:31.160 for branching news and Stacey. According to research, grocery shopping on an empty 485 00:33:31.279 --> 00:33:37.640 stomach will cost you an extra twenty six dollars per trip on average. The 486 00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:43.240 factors that most influence what Americans buy at the supermarket are price, flavor, 487 00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:47.759 availability, and nutrients in that order. And if you're going to make an 488 00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:54.359 impulse buy, you're most likely to snag bananas first, then grapes, then 489 00:33:54.440 --> 00:34:00.400 apples on the way to check out. Those are some pretty healthy implies. 490 00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:04.759 I thought impulse spies were more like, you know, chips and candy barns 491 00:34:04.920 --> 00:34:09.480 exactly. So. Yeah. And then on bananas, the survey settles the 492 00:34:09.559 --> 00:34:15.320 debate about the right stage to eat a banana and found that half fifty percent 493 00:34:15.480 --> 00:34:21.320 said it's during the yellow with no spot stage. A surprising number six percent 494 00:34:21.599 --> 00:34:28.159 opt to eat their bananas while they're mostly green. I'm surprised that you're giving 495 00:34:28.199 --> 00:34:30.760 bananas this much airtime, Rerick. I know they are not one of your 496 00:34:30.800 --> 00:34:36.280 favorites or not one of my favorites. Yeah, I don't like bananas, 497 00:34:37.159 --> 00:34:39.599 but I'll tell you, when you go back to those factors price and availability, 498 00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:44.000 you can't beat a banana on either of those things. I think you 499 00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:47.199 just can't be too bananalytical or something like that. But there you go. 500 00:34:47.400 --> 00:34:51.239 Yeah, so I had to give bananas their time in the sun. Hey, 501 00:34:51.400 --> 00:34:53.239 a fascinating thing. I wanted to ask you about, Stacy, because 502 00:34:53.239 --> 00:34:59.719 I've been observing this for years working in garden centers in greenhouses, and I 503 00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:04.440 have deserved it again this past weekend. Folks when they're shopping for plants and 504 00:35:04.480 --> 00:35:09.280 they're excited to buy their plants. Love to buy plants off of carts, 505 00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:13.920 you know, the shipping containers, that sort of thing. Now, I 506 00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:19.519 observed something this past weekend where the plants were beautifully displayed in a landscape bed 507 00:35:20.039 --> 00:35:24.440 and they were on the cart. Most people gravitated towards the plants on the 508 00:35:24.679 --> 00:35:30.519 cart. And so I call it the milk carton effect where you know you're 509 00:35:30.559 --> 00:35:34.199 buying milk, and you reach to the back and you look for the one 510 00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:37.079 with the best date, right, Yeah, And I think that's psychologically, 511 00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:40.000 you know, I'm not saying it's a bad thing they're buying off the carts, 512 00:35:40.199 --> 00:35:44.360 but I think psychologically that's what's happening. I don't know, do you 513 00:35:44.440 --> 00:35:50.280 think that's interesting? I will put forth another theory, okay, and that 514 00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:53.039 is that at most box stores, if you're used to shopping at box stores, 515 00:35:53.039 --> 00:35:57.400 almost everything is merchandised on a cart, all the annuals and herbs and 516 00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:00.760 perennials, and are not usually some perennials. So I think, especially if 517 00:36:00.760 --> 00:36:06.440 someone is typically a box store garden center shopper, they're probably just really used 518 00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:09.320 to shopping from carts. It's fascinating to me, it really is, so 519 00:36:09.440 --> 00:36:15.119 I call it the milk carton effect. Landscapers working in the backyard of a 520 00:36:15.239 --> 00:36:21.719 Virginia home made a surprising discovery a suspected cannon ball dating from the Civil War 521 00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:27.239 landscapings were landscapers were working in the yard of a home on Frederick Street in 522 00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:31.719 Stoughton, Virginia when they uncovered what they initially thought to be a strange rock. 523 00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:37.039 One of them ended up rinsing it off and we saw that it was 524 00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:42.239 a meat ball, a metal ball. Oh my. They had recently dealt 525 00:36:42.280 --> 00:36:45.039 with a similar discovery at another home, so they knew what to do because 526 00:36:45.079 --> 00:36:53.519 they cart these things off as a suspected explosive and live ordinance. So yis, 527 00:36:54.039 --> 00:36:58.360 yeah, find a cannon ball and I guess I could. I can 528 00:36:58.440 --> 00:37:02.119 see that in Virginia right. The fact that they're still unearthing them in twenty 529 00:37:02.239 --> 00:37:07.119 twenty four is amazing to me. The fact that they're still potentially live art 530 00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:09.960 salary is pretty and it would be so disappointing. You'd be so psyched that 531 00:37:10.039 --> 00:37:14.679 you found this cannonball and then you couldn't even keep it. Yeah, amazing. 532 00:37:15.360 --> 00:37:20.000 Did you know human cannonballs never get fired? They can't find someone else 533 00:37:20.039 --> 00:37:23.840 of their caliber. So bad joke. Hey, the Heinz Ketchup people. 534 00:37:23.880 --> 00:37:28.239 You know, also, soon all of us are going to be planting tomato 535 00:37:28.360 --> 00:37:32.519 plants. Yes, and the Heinz Company announced the launch of a new solution 536 00:37:32.840 --> 00:37:38.239 for Ketchup lovers who sometimes get a little carried away, the world's first ever 537 00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:46.000 catch up insurance policy. We're going to put this link at the website at 538 00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:52.760 Gardeningsimplified on air dot com you can sign up. As a matter of fact, 539 00:37:52.760 --> 00:37:58.079 there are fifty seven different types of claims for those who believe that Tomato 540 00:37:58.280 --> 00:38:04.480 Ketchup is all worth the risk. Now, of course I've taken out some 541 00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:09.639 white shirts and some nice slacks with with ketchup. But now you can purchase 542 00:38:10.559 --> 00:38:16.719 insurance that will cover your pets, stains on carpets, the sofa. The 543 00:38:16.880 --> 00:38:25.440 insurance is designed to provide swift and hassle free compensation to affected individuals. Forty 544 00:38:25.480 --> 00:38:32.119 eight percent of people regularly deal with ketchup accidents, yet ninety one percent assert 545 00:38:32.239 --> 00:38:38.960 that their love for Tomato Ketchup justifies the occasional spills. So now you can 546 00:38:39.079 --> 00:38:44.440 be covered for ketchup spills. I you know, I feel like I didn't 547 00:38:44.519 --> 00:38:51.199 even hear anything after pets because because I'm kind of really hung up on the 548 00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:54.800 fact that people are potentially staining their pets with Ketchup. That's a little alarming. 549 00:38:55.199 --> 00:39:00.880 Shake that bottle and can shake the ketchup bottle and then a lot of 550 00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:04.039 sorry, that was an E. Cummings, Bam. I cannot take credit 551 00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:07.760 for that, really, right out of the back of your head. Outstanding. 552 00:39:09.119 --> 00:39:12.400 So, but what I did want to mention, of course, we're 553 00:39:12.440 --> 00:39:15.320 going to be planting tomatoes soon here in the North as we get near that 554 00:39:15.639 --> 00:39:20.679 last frost date. But I found it interesting. I did a little bit 555 00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:24.559 of research. They see, Ketchup was invented by a horticulturist. His name 556 00:39:24.800 --> 00:39:30.800 was James Meae in eighteen twelve, as I understand it, and these first 557 00:39:31.000 --> 00:39:38.559 Ketchup versions used brandy instead of vinegar and sugar, so they were maybe using 558 00:39:38.639 --> 00:39:45.519 a shot glass when they enjoyed their ketchup. Some following editions included oysters and 559 00:39:45.880 --> 00:39:50.320 anchovies. Oh yeah, I gotta get that savory in there. Yuck. 560 00:39:51.119 --> 00:39:53.320 Oh, I don't know. I think it could be delicious. I mean, 561 00:39:53.360 --> 00:39:57.880 I'm not a huge Ketchup fan, but I would be more I'd be 562 00:39:57.960 --> 00:40:02.199 more likely to try in anchovy or what was it, fish sauce or oysters. 563 00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:06.360 I would be more likely to try an oyster or anchovy based ketchup than 564 00:40:06.360 --> 00:40:12.400 a regular ketchup. Interesting, I'll go for the brand to Stacy. I 565 00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:19.239 put this story in just for you. A bird confused police officers by mimicking 566 00:40:19.840 --> 00:40:22.679 a siren sound. Oh. The reason we just did that is because I 567 00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:31.400 can't say mim that word that word. So anyhow, police officers thought it 568 00:40:31.519 --> 00:40:36.639 was an April Fool's joke. They were left confused. So the bird, 569 00:40:36.760 --> 00:40:43.199 Stacy, was a starling. Oh, and it mimicked He did it the 570 00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:50.719 sound of sirens on the police cars. I believe Starling's are fascinating birds when 571 00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:53.960 it comes to sound. Mozart had a pet starling because he was so obsessed 572 00:40:54.000 --> 00:40:59.119 with their sounds. I did not know that. Wow, that's fascinating now. 573 00:40:59.159 --> 00:41:04.960 They probably weren't in imitating a siren back then, but yeah, I 574 00:41:05.119 --> 00:41:07.039 love listening to the saying. And I was actually testing it out on my 575 00:41:07.199 --> 00:41:12.920 Merlin Bird id app because I'm sitting there looking at a starling singing, and 576 00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:15.679 my Merlin id app is just lighting up red wing blackbird, red wing blackbird 577 00:41:15.760 --> 00:41:20.599 the whole time because they're mimicking red wing blackbirds. But they also have their 578 00:41:20.639 --> 00:41:22.440 own enormous range of something. And I have not heard them do a siren, 579 00:41:22.480 --> 00:41:25.639 but that is interesting well. And part of the reason that the starlings 580 00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:31.920 like to mimic is it's part of the whole mating thing. In other words, 581 00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:37.119 the males, if they can project out a variety of voices, as 582 00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:43.800 I understand it, it makes them more attractive to the females. And another 583 00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:51.039 interesting thing is at the end of World War Two, Hitler and the Germans 584 00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:57.000 were employing something called a V one rocket, and a V one rocket was 585 00:41:57.159 --> 00:42:02.079 the early edition of what we would today a cruise missile. It was terrifying. 586 00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:07.480 It was horrible when these V one bombs were used on England. The 587 00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:15.599 point here is after World War Two there were Starlings that were mimicking the V 588 00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:21.719 one bomb. Wow, and that was really boy. That would cause the 589 00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:24.400 hair to stay up on your arms. Hopefully the next generation did not learn 590 00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:30.320 that song. Fascinating. Fascinating. So oh, and last story here real 591 00:42:30.440 --> 00:42:37.119 quickly. Top French court suspends their ban on using the word steak on plant 592 00:42:37.280 --> 00:42:42.480 based foods. So in other words, you can't throw steak or prime rib 593 00:42:42.800 --> 00:42:47.599 or filet or those kind of words when you're out there selling plant based products. 594 00:42:47.639 --> 00:42:53.880 I guess this is a real debate in that industry and interesting to find. 595 00:42:53.920 --> 00:42:58.760 It is so like cauliflower steak, mushroom steak you see here, and 596 00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:02.559 then of course there's all the meet substitute steaks out there, so they're obviously 597 00:43:02.679 --> 00:43:06.480 taking it very seriously. I can say. You know, it is sometimes 598 00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:09.519 confusing, You're like, is this cauliflower or is this steak? But you 599 00:43:09.599 --> 00:43:15.719 know it's always good to be clear. Give chick peas a chance. All 600 00:43:15.840 --> 00:43:19.599 right. So anyhow, that was fun, What a fun show. I 601 00:43:19.639 --> 00:43:22.360 hope you enjoyed it too. Thanks so much, Stacy, Thank you, 602 00:43:22.480 --> 00:43:24.840 Rick, enjoy doing the show with you and YouTube Adriana. Thank you so 603 00:43:24.960 --> 00:43:29.480 much, Adriana, and to all of you. Remember our show is on 604 00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:32.880 YouTube, it's on radio, and you can get it wherever you get your 605 00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:36.199 favorite podcast. Have a great week.