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This is Ashon Forbes. You are
on Hard Trews number five. Hard Trews

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the podcast where we ask the hard
questions and we get the hard truths.

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We seek scientific answers. We see
answers about things that are conspiracies, out

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there, stuff that people do not
feel comfortable hearing about. So thank you

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all for being with us. Roydy
Herbert, thank you very much. Theoretical

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physicist. He is also the proponent
of dilation theory, which is a theory

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that seeks to understand the nature of
space time and what it means respect to

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our lives. Ready, Herbert,
thank you very much, sir. Welcome,

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thank you, and good offtenoon to
you. So let's just get right

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off to it. We have limited
time and I have a lot of stuff

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I want to ask you. So, first of all, what is your

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job? What do you say?
Well, how do you describe yourself to

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people on social media or people that
you run across, et cetera. Out

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there? Theoretical physicist essentially, that's
what I do. I think about problems

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within physics, come up with ideas
to solve them. And how'd you get

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interested in it? Interesting? Since
I was a little boy, essentially a

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fascination with the cosmos and nature to
a degree that I have now uncanny understanding

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of things. I used to keep
my brothers awake at night hypothesizing black holes

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when I was about seven to eight
years old and stupid things like that.

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So who's your favorite Sorry to interrupt
you, So who's your favorite physicist out

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there? Who do you look to
for inspiration when it comes to physics and

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stuff like that. My main mentor, I would say, would be Carl

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Sagan. Carl Sagen, yeah,
from the past, but my current I

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would call my chief officer at the
moment possibly Cliff Burgess, who's an extraordinary,

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extraordinary talented physicist and theoretical business and
we share a lot of musings on

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social media. And what do you
think what inspires you about their understanding of

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physics or what do you gravitate to
you towards them. I guess we're going

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to use a physical physics concept.
I think it. Well, Cliff is

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one hell of a guy, So
there's that. So it doesn't really matter

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about his ideas. You know,
he has a sort of open attitude towards

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things and towards people, and he
responds, so that's a bonus people usually

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do not engage, you know,
that sort of level, but Click is

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one of those people who will engage
with it, so he's great. Those

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are kinds of people I like to
and that's the kind of person that I

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try to be as well. Somebody
that doesn't judge people based on how many

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followers they have or whatever, just
tries to get out there and answer questions

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for people. It gets harder though, the more followers you get, for

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sure. Yeah. I tried to
answer as many questions as possible. I

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mean, some of them are quite
silly, as you get someone quite ludicrous,

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but the vast majority are very,
very important, and even from people

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who have not been sat in the
world of physics for all their lives or

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within any level of some sort of
professional career. Yeah, that's why you're

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responding to people this morning as well. So thank you very much for your

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effort. And honestly, I was
one of those people once upon a time,

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and look at us now now we're
sitting here doing the hard Trews number

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five with you, So thank you
again for being here. Let's just jump

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right into the physics. So can
you explain dilation theory to us? I

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have it in my profile. I'm
a big believer in it. I believe

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in the simplicity of it. But
I want to hear it in your term,

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in your words. Feel for you
to take as much time as you

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want. Okay, right, Well, diition theory asked us to consider time

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okay, differently okay, and looking
at those weird and wonderful attributes of time

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and asking ourselves sent what's going on? That's what I did, and that's

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why I come up with dilation theory. Essentially, we should consider time like

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all things within our cosmos, governed
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When we do so, we find
that time holds a fluidity in its continuous

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nature. Okay, it goes back
to a theorem chnorance serum. We have

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things that have a continuous nature within
the universe. In an linear emotional all

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the way or any sort of fashion
will invoke conservational symmetry. We see this

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with liquid smoke, for example,
where smoke is forced to share a direction

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and force through an aperture for example, which shares linear motion, and then

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it turns. Conservational symmetry kicks in
and the smoke turns to a fluid well

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time turns to a fluid, though
we don't perceive the fluid side of time

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because we are what one could say
abstractions within the flow time we only ever

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experience and would consider are now a
dynamic eternal moment where the property is of

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any moment to note a particular outcome
that gives us a resolution to the paradoxical

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issue of the double slit it for
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added property of any moment. Okay, they're even looking. They're not properties

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change. See, it's a dynamic. So essentially symmetry is and behavior within

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things. I'm not they don't break
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They are dynamic in that they change
according to your changes. Okay,

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so if we can consider those nows
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Therefore, time we can consider to
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we use some fluid dynamic analogies that
we are more familiar, we take our

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minds to say a screen. Okay, we look to the banks of the

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stream. The flow of the river, they're all the stream slows, is

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slowed by the bank. If you
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you would notice all the plots in
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that slowing of the flow gathered to
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going on. Well, wherever we
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we get a passive transversal inertia that
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the shore to the slowest relative speed
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dead mid stream in our flow of
our stream, as it were, the

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fastest flow in the stream, there
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our analogies to time as it were, the fastest relative flow will have zero

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G is zero inertia state. Okay, And where time has almost stopped as

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it were, it's very very very
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We see this with black holes.
So if we use our analogy of

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our friends, for example, the
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fast, one could consider that and
therefore having no inertial gravity upon them.

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Well, they're holding a relative past
a rate of time. Then they're surrounding.

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It's as simple as that. Well, and so there's a couple of

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things I want to ask on that. Then would that hold true as well

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to let's say, like small objects, small creatures, beings like bugs and

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ants, and I think dragonflies as
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a similar phenomenon just scaled down exactly? If we take the analogies of the

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dragonfly, for example, it's a
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small, therefore it's ultimate. You
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is much more less complicated than me
and you, So therefore it will hold

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a much faster relative rate of time. We call it a relative rate of

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time bullet time, okay, because
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these things can dodge bullets ses species, so they can you know, they

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have a much faster relative rate of
time. Let's put analogy. If we

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were to look at a wristwatch,
for example, if we could upon the

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dragon fly's wrist, we can give
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we were to be able to view
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incredible rate of time, be ticking
away very very fast. But to him,

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the dragonply, it's normal ti toop
seconds. You see what I mean.

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It's yes, things can hold different
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of those funny things is and we
just had a result pushed it in yesterday

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was with the neutral style side of
data that's just come in from the LIGO

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results. One of those little quirks
that come out previously before that, a

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week before that, was the correlation
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the spin rate of certain forms of
contact, in that they correlate precisely.

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Now, so how is that working? Well, neutron stars essentially hold an

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extended electron cloud, and they're poor
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given the phase of quantat Yeah,
yeah, sorry, I'm listening. I

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was just can you see the screen
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because I think is this the example
you were talking about from yesterday? Yes,

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yes, sorry myself disappearing through me. I probably confused you for a

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second. Yes, what we've discovered
here is that essentially a neutron star is

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a supersized atom. Okay, so
okay, what's going on? Well,

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basically what's going on is the material
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that the electrons within the actual material
of the actual neutron star can't sit there.

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Okay, they get extended and by
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the properties of quanta, the apport
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that's the size of a neutron star
quanta. So things essentially can be considered

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quanta if they help the properties of
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call this thing dynamic behaviorism, and
that properties to know the behavior outcome independently

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of scale. Yeah, so with
respect to a neutron star, then you're

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saying that the neutron star can teleport
move at the speed of Later, what

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kind of properties are we going to
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a neutron star that appears to achieve
the properties of quantum Here we're talking about

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like just the pressure is causing the
atoms and or the neutrons and the protons

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to I don't know, maybe even
call LESCo into this quark matter, I

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think is how it was described,
which then allows the whole object to act

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like an atom. You know,
what kind of things can we see from

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that that can prove that to us
to prove this unification of very large objects

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small objects, Well, we can
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that correlation to that quantent rate is
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the actual makeup of the neutron star, and as we can see from the

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makeup of that, which is that
you provided that it checks out, okay,

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So we can see all these different
bits and pieces. Basically what we're

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looking at is we're looking at the
behavior of the thing, okay, and

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the powers and the scales and the
energies that are coming off. And if

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we take those and we take them
reduce them down to the quantent scale,

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they correlate precisely, okay. So
we can pretty much firmly guess okay,

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that's definitely considered an atom okay by
the universe. So which provides some issues

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in that things can hoodwork hedwink the
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and with it the package that comes
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that scale as such, or considered
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the largest scale in the same way, and there's a set of different rules

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that apply to you. As you
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So certain things can hold superposition.
We can imagine a black hole to be

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a neutron star in superposition not holding
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time because of its underlying quantum information, cannot come to determination of precisely what

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is there. So, in other
words, black hole is where a neutron

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star can no longer be rendered within
our universe. That's really interesting because it

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seems like that would be the ultimate
conclusion of the quark matter situation, right

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where you get so much pressure,
so much gravitational force there that it now

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causes us to have this you could
even call it a non radiant barrier.

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But you know, you see the
essentially the shell of the black hole,

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you know, the event horizon,
right where we can't see anything past that

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anymore. So it does seem like
it could be possible that a black hole

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is simply a neutron star, And
I think physics would say that it is

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potentially just a more dense, more
massive object, one that caused that potential

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phase transition to happen in even a
larger state. So I think that that's

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the beauty I think of in my
mind. The physics that you've put forth

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is that it provides an underlying symmetry, or I guess, for lack of

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a better term, unification of things
that are very small versus things that are

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very large. And someone sent me
a tweet the other week actually as above,

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so below, and it is the
case. It is a geometric unity

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essentially, and that geometric unity is
a cheap conservational symmetry. You know where

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that statement comes from, as above, so below. I've heard that so

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many a lot of times. Curious
question. I have no idea, and

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someone sent it to me, and
then someone told me. A colleague told

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me, oh, don't let them
take you down there, for God's sake,

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and I said, okay, maybe
someone in the chat can tell us.

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Yeah. The other thing I just
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on is that when you were talking
about the double slit experiment in time,

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I think that that's very interesting to
me in terms of like the way we

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perceive times through our own initial frame
of reference, because now you can still

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hear a lots of physics, but
now you can have things like non locality

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and quantum entanglement exist where it's like
there's an underlying framework that we can't see

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because of our biology, because of
our frame of reference, that can allow

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things to move faster in the box. Yes, exactly, Yeah, locked

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in the box is a good way
to put it, right. And there's

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a meme that's been going around recently
that I really like a lot where it's

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the guy that looks to the side
and looks straight ahead, and when he's

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looking at the side that you have
the wave pattern, and then when he's

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looking straight ahead and then it breaks
down to the double slits, right,

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And so yeah, I think that
your idea and understanding of time or dilation

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theory seems to make a lot of
sense to me. And just to reiterate,

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and you can jump in here.
You know, for a lot of

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people don't understand time dilation is a
real concept. Right, So what we're

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talking about with frames of references has
already been proven for fifty years or more,

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right, Yes, long time,
long time. Yeah, it's nothing

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new. This is what it is. I'm not suggesting anything new. I'm

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just asking that certain principles that we
have adopted over the last eighty years,

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that being conservation, should be applied
to time. Yeah, and that time

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can be described as an etropic,
emergent phenomena essentially that comes from all things

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within the cosmos, even if they
hold no as a cality at all,

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there's still some determination of what's going
on. So therefore there is some form

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of change, and they've got time, you's know what I mean. So

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where we have nothing in the university
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get expansion of the universe. And
where we have that slowing of time at

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all, we have a compression of
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are you see what I mean?
Do you think that explains dark energy?

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canvas of our reality. M Okay, it's bubbling up as almost like a

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deport as it were, the determination
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it's quite it's quite difficult to get
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at dark matter, for example,
if we now, okay, the thing

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for a problem with dark matter is
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that we see within galaxies, okay, according to the amount of mass that's

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there. So that's why we call
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touch, we can't see, but
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big problem was that they never knew
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we put it into an abstract form, Let's say, okay, here's my

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abstract complexities of quantum information. Determination
denote one's dilation, and dilation stress on

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that fluid symmetry of emergent time denotes
gravity. Okay, so the dilation stress,

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the slowing of time powers the inertia
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dark matter? Well, essentially that
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dilation. So what we should be
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What possibly could be slowing time?
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the start of a galaxy in its
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like. Okay, let's take its
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know that particular dilation rate of time
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very very fast. Okay, needs
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so that gravity starts to take effect. We need some dilation. Okay.

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More complex forms of energies are created
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matter, Now that's still that hydrogen. It's same stuff, but it's now

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transformed. Okay, it's transformed into
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forms of matter. Is there galaxies
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same as that Nebulie cloud, even
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of course it's not. The complexities
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Okay, So things are getting more
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longer and longer to determine in time. Okay, that gives you your missing

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factor. Also, galaxy should come
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we'll have a galaxy's audience could also
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You see what I mean. So, yeah, we start to look

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at once, we start to look
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that and energies. Okay, and
knowing resolving that issue, then it resolves

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not just gravity but all of the
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in a much more common sense way. You can see things. You don't

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need a degree, you don't need
a PhD. You just need common sense.

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with you in a few minutes.
By pointed out that if you were to

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just take from a quantum level to
try to understand and graph how information gets

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more complex. You could look at
it like a string, where the strings

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getting longer, longer, longer,
and longer longer, And then the idea

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there is somewhat the same, which
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the string just keeps getting longer,
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could analogize that to the inertia.
Right, You're getting more and more inertia,

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which is slowing things down, which
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that's why one of the questions I
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think dark matter is? But I
think you just went ahead and answered it

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for us is yes, you know, complexity is the answer? Right?

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Is that you think that's a growth
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space time? Right? Is that
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it points to it goes back again
to the double slit in that it points

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to the universe to being stochastic and
deterministic rather than probabilistic. Okay, that's

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what it means. It means that
there's something else going on under the hood,

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a process whereby a determination it's passed
beyond the paradigm as it were,

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of emergence, then is returned and
according to how long that took to return,

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that denotes one's installation. Okay.
So I call this underlying modu superandi

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dynamic behaviorism okay, in that that
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dynamic moment that now okay, and
your properties denote the particular outcome for you,

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okay, And that ultimately is a
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it denotes what conservational symmetry should be
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thing can look backwards and pause in
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the now to give a more concerned
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in other words, there are more
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to discover. Aha, leg that's
great. I love that. I wish

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I had a snow globe right now, because that's I always think of it

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like the snow globe scenario where it's
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you can watch it go. But
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right, it's something else, like
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it the matrix. I just love
the idea of the matrix. Right,

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there's an underlying matrix in which our
reality is being projected onto, right,

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because that's the only way you can
explain how you have this capability to look

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backwards and forward in time. Would
you kind of agree that there must be

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this must imply some sort of construct
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slicks experiment itself. As I've been
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to quite you or a soft we
developer. You're painting an area of the

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screen. You need to determine what's
there by the properties of what the debuwer

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is looking at. Property is to
note the outcome. It's a holographic paint

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event. That now is a holographic
paint event, and it is dynamic.

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And I'm not sure if it can
be overloaded. When you say overloaded,

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what do you mean in terms of
more adding more parameters? Perhaps interesting?

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Right, if you think of it
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neutron stars to ingust that and so
our friends. Yeah, and we're going

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to talk about that in a minute
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though, I want to stick with
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well. So one thing I want
to ask you is do you believe in

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string theory? So one thing you
mentioned is I hadn't actually heard this that

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you mentioned in terms of like I
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is able to look backwards and forwards
and figure out what it should do,

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right, and that's definitely what we're
seeing a double slit experiment. So do

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you think this supports the idea of
string theory or what's your idea of your

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concept or understanding string theory fits in
there? Okay, I'm not going to

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destroy every swampy's dream. Yeah okay, which is a nickname we give for

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people who work in string. It's
not an insult, okay, But basically,

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yeah, string theory fits in there
someway in that that determination has to

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change what's there. Okay. So
even that determination done, the universe has

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to perform that actual action of saying
okay, draw you render you as So

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now that yeah, string theory comes
in. So one could say that that's

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the communication medium between the dynamic behavior
modus operando and the fabric of reality itself

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abstract. Okay, that's yeah,
So that's where the fields come in.

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Essentially, the fields are that manipulation
process at work. Okay. But my

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stuff is more of what's going on
behind the hood as it were, you

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know, under the hood, and
projecting that as it were, understanding gravity

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more and this geometric unity that's obviously
there. I mean to be honest with

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you, I'd be totally honest with
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But all this is pretty much Charles
playing for me. I've been doing

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this for like since nineteen ninety seven. I actually put the first thing together.

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So I've been shouting at doors for
years and years and years and years,

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and every single result that comes out
ast and it's like bang, more

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sigma, bang more sigma, and
they're still going, no, we're not

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listening, we're not listening. We're
still hunting for this over here and dark

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matter and no, we're sure gravity
is like this, and they're still going

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to fail fail. Well yeah,
but it is. It really is a

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lot of it's really basic stuff,
basic relativistic fluid dynamics and laws of conservation,

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and yes, it's just ignored.
It's just stupid. Sorry it is.

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can talk about that for a second

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too, because I was just posting
yesterday and I was digging into this investigation

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and I found this guy, Matthias
Chang, and I found this quote from

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this interview he did, which was
really good, where he says that people

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are asking him what do you think
happened that? What do you think is

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going to happen with regards to this
plane investigation. He says, well,

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people are so brainwashed and conditioned by
what they get told, and people that

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are the authority that they're willing to
believe just at face value, whatever someone

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says in terms of they give him
a story from the authority, people believe

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it. And that's what I've come
to realize. And I think this stuff

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like you mentioned, threatens the paradigm, But isn't that what science has always

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been. Science is not a process
of gradual improvement. What it is is

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people break through the barrier, right, and they set a new paradigm and

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then people are just that's been live
view. I don't know what your thought

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is. It's been going on since
Galileo Copanicus, Einstein, you name it,

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Newton, Darwin, you name every
single breakthrough in human understanding. It's

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been kicked and pushed into the gutter. And you know the person's been kicked

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and pushed into the gutter as well. You know that sort of stuff,

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because there isn't an orthodoxy as it
weren't that is entrenched with its own Interesting

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now, if I mean, I
know, I'm right, Okay, it

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might might. You know, I'm
not alone anymore. I've got one of

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the world's leading mathematicians to go through
this in the last two years and go

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ship you're right, you know,
And he's done all the math in the

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equations and everything else, and you
probably see what amount of wels leading physicists

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and now follow me. You know, they know they smell something right blood

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in the waters. It's a something
that's feeding time. Well, I say

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to them, don't bloody argue because
I'm using their argument against because we present

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the invariants and all the data and
everything to them, we say, don't

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argue, calculate and just go with
a blow baby. That's good. Given

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the analogy of the stream, I
like it. I want to go back

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real quick to the dark energy stuff, because I think that's really interesting that

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something I had never considered as well, which is that, you know,

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the way that conventional academia explains the
universe says that there's this big bang,

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which let's just go with it for
now. I'm not sure one hundred percent

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agree, But the thing about it
is that they say that the universe would

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have had to expand faster than the
speed of light. Right, And this

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also kind of comes into play when
we start talking about quantum teleportation, right

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and talk about superluminal speeds. Well, if you have if you think of

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the underlying matrix with nothing projected on
it, there, you have exactly zero

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inertia. Right, so now you
are going to have superluminal speeds are now

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possible. Right, And now that
could explain dark energy. How you get

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this expansion of the universe faster than
the speed of light. So that's a

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new thing that I've just kind of
epiphanized on based on our conversation just now.

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So did you have any comments on
that? Yes? How many systems

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you're a programming developed, how many
systems have you mounted and started an instant

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and a lot of the cpure,
Yeah, quite a lot. I've been

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on a lot of sites across the
country. Go ahead, go and mount

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something very very juicy, and then
kick it into run. But as you're

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mounting it, look at the actual
pressures and the loads on the CPU,

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and all the memory, and all
the heat and the tempera that's being kicked

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out by your system. Measure it
all in grass and then align that craft

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to the expansions and the other bits
that were happening within our universe, and

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one will find a correlation. That's
a good idea. I didn't really think

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about that, but yeah, I
mean it's a things of like, yeah,

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bringing on a new computer system,
you know, watching the power us

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increase over time, get more and
more complex. You could say that there's

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this pretty strong analogy to what you
know, our universe is. And even

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the fact that we even have computers
and you can describe everything in ones and

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zeros almost makes me wonder, is
that already us hacking into the underlying framework

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of what our matrix reality really is? So well we know that. You

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know, if we take my theory
and we say that time is an emergent

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in tropic phenomena, then it's emerging
from somewhere Okay. Now my ideas are

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that it emerges from what we could. We would use analogies as within the

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development worlds as parental domain, for
example, so that parental domain, our

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emergent contextual duality emerges up. Okay. We could call that parnal domain the

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domain, not quantum information. Okay. But ultimately I believe that a methodology

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at work, that dynamic behaviorism,
that modus underlying modus operandi is it says

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to me, I am a behavioral
government methodology. Okay, the similarities are

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just far too strong, Okay,
So one could look at that. One

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could also use the analogies of a
virtual abstract terminologies when looking at our duality,

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for example, our virtual side of
magnetism and so on, and the

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abstract electricity doing that duality as it
were, we are, for example abstract.

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That's interesting, Dave ROSSI was just
talking about the duality of magnetism electricity

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yesterday in our space and giving analogy
of the male and the female. One

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thing I want to ask real quick, would you say, am I defining

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dynamic behaviorism correctly? When I would
say that it's essentially going back the double

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slow experiment, how the universe is
able to look backwards and forwards and determine

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what should happen. Is that would
that be a good way of describing it.

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Yes, it is the underlying modus
operandi of our abstract reality. It

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governs conservation, which is everything essentially, even timed light, absolutely everything in

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00:32:22.079 --> 00:32:29.720
the universe is governed by conservation,
even this dynamic behaviorism. So conservation comes

410
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:34.440
from a higher contextuality. So what
I mean, Ashton? It has it

411
00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:38.279
has parental it has precedence as such
in the order. Yes, so it's

412
00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:43.200
coming from much higher. It's like
there's a hierarchy of rules, right,

413
00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:46.920
and it's like, okay, that's
the hierarchy of the top hierarchy in you've

414
00:32:46.920 --> 00:32:52.680
got it, it's the top constraint. Interesting, so one, Yeah,

415
00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:58.960
and therefore one could basically visit excep
or that the and I think who is

416
00:32:59.000 --> 00:33:05.920
it? Edibly? Gerald T.
Hoof put out publication a year ago after

417
00:33:05.960 --> 00:33:13.319
I went public, proposing almost exactly
the same in the the laws of physics

418
00:33:13.359 --> 00:33:19.000
are essentially an inheritance of those constraints, as it were, up the scales.

419
00:33:19.839 --> 00:33:22.920
Okay, so yeah, we can
we can answer all all the all

420
00:33:22.920 --> 00:33:25.920
the problems where all the laws how
that's all coming through and so on and

421
00:33:25.960 --> 00:33:30.799
all those bits and pieces. But
it's like going back to the point.

422
00:33:30.799 --> 00:33:34.000
You ate, what was the point
you were making about? Remind me if

423
00:33:34.000 --> 00:33:37.039
you can they always do this?
No, I think that that was That

424
00:33:37.119 --> 00:33:39.160
was pretty much it. It was
just the idea of this construct and then

425
00:33:39.200 --> 00:33:43.480
that these rules that we have on
top of it, and understanding what dynamic

426
00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:46.440
behavior is a parental domain I was
I was talking about the parental contextual domain.

427
00:33:46.839 --> 00:33:52.759
Yeah, now is that the ultimate
contextuality? Perhaps not? You know,

428
00:33:53.240 --> 00:33:58.759
where does it stop? I don't
know. So if we think about

429
00:33:58.799 --> 00:34:01.920
okay, the freedom and okay,
and then we talk about the dimension of

430
00:34:01.960 --> 00:34:07.160
the gauge of time, we've got
four dimensions. Anything else from that,

431
00:34:07.240 --> 00:34:10.320
we shouldn't really be looking at it
as dimensional. We should be looking at

432
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:16.639
it as contextual, okay, as
a former contextuality. Okay. So we

433
00:34:16.760 --> 00:34:22.119
exist in as we know already,
we exist in a few different contextualities.

434
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:28.639
You're abstract, I'm abstract. Okay. There's also a fluid quantum side to

435
00:34:28.719 --> 00:34:31.239
us. We know that we exist
as well as quanta. Okay, we

436
00:34:31.320 --> 00:34:35.519
know what those properties are. Now
we understand it all about that. You

437
00:34:35.559 --> 00:34:38.519
know that very cold thing. But
that's part of you and it's not harming

438
00:34:38.559 --> 00:34:45.519
you, is it. So we
have much to learn about this other side

439
00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:52.119
to our contextuality. Okay, that
other side of that contextuality to us doesn't

440
00:34:52.159 --> 00:34:59.400
hold a physicality. I like that
understanding because I've always struggled with this idea

441
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:01.440
of like five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, dimensions,

442
00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:05.360
right, I think it needs to
be simplified down where it's like,

443
00:35:05.559 --> 00:35:07.519
Okay, we've got the three dimensions
that we see are three axes, right,

444
00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:10.800
I can explain this, right,
three axes, and then you've got

445
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:15.880
the fourth one, which we can
understands time because we understand time dilation is

446
00:35:15.920 --> 00:35:20.000
a real thing, right, and
we understand frames of reference. But beyond

447
00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:22.880
that, I like the idea of
the rest of its contextual Right, It's

448
00:35:22.000 --> 00:35:27.159
like trying to understand how we all
relate to one another. Doesn't mean there's

449
00:35:27.199 --> 00:35:30.719
necessarily another dimension that's there. Just
means that there's more properties or more underlying

450
00:35:30.760 --> 00:35:36.440
behaviors that we don't quite understand related
to the dimensions that we do experience.

451
00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:42.800
It's just different forms of contextuality of
the same thing. That's where you have

452
00:35:42.920 --> 00:35:46.960
the geometric unit, and it's that
conservational nature of the universe that's providing for

453
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:52.519
us. Yeah, yeah, if
I could opine just for a second too,

454
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:53.880
I think that my mind's already starting
to get blown from this, but

455
00:35:54.079 --> 00:35:59.719
I am starting to think that there's
a relationship between engineering and physics itself where

456
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:02.679
you need to understand the rules,
right, the dynamic behaviors, and the

457
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:07.800
upper bounds of what those rules are
in the hierarchy of them in order for

458
00:36:07.920 --> 00:36:10.400
engineering to be able to know how
to produce the effects that you want to

459
00:36:10.440 --> 00:36:15.360
be able to create. Right.
Once you have that relationship, then once

460
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:20.039
they kind of mesh, now you
can I would say, perform magic essentially,

461
00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:27.239
Oh gray hot please. And I
don't know if we're talking about Star

462
00:36:27.320 --> 00:36:31.000
Trek replicators, but you know,
why not, honestly, why not at

463
00:36:31.000 --> 00:36:35.400
this point if you can relate matter
to that degree and you can actually make

464
00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:39.559
the quantum information inside of the contextuality, we could potentially say, oh,

465
00:36:39.639 --> 00:36:44.920
don't render me here, render me
there. And that's what we've been seeing

466
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:49.440
happen with quantum teleportation. They just
teleported a picture, a full picture was

467
00:36:49.440 --> 00:36:52.199
teleported, I think just last week, where I think it's amazing that science

468
00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:55.639
is starting to catch up with you
know, us you and you know,

469
00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:59.360
and the destigation that we've been putting
in. Yeah, and you know,

470
00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:02.159
like you said, it's in thirty
years, right and yeah, nineteen ninety

471
00:37:02.199 --> 00:37:06.639
seven, nearly thirt years, yeah, twenty five, thirty years. And

472
00:37:06.800 --> 00:37:08.079
and then you know, every day
I think that we get more and more

473
00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:12.440
evidence that you know, begins to
show that, know, these types of

474
00:37:12.440 --> 00:37:16.800
concepts aren't just you know, crazy
theories. They're just stuff that actually explains

475
00:37:16.840 --> 00:37:22.920
reality better than conventional understanding. Right, Yes, it really does, and

476
00:37:22.960 --> 00:37:27.480
it does so very very simply,
and one doesn't require agree just common sense.

477
00:37:28.000 --> 00:37:30.920
Yeah, okay, that's what we
record. So one thing. The

478
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:32.960
next thing I want to come want
to go to, which is similar to

479
00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:38.199
what we've been talking about, is
are you familiar with Suskind and Maldacina by

480
00:37:38.239 --> 00:37:46.960
any chance eer equals epr no speed? Then yeah, this is Newtonian physics

481
00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:52.079
essentially, and string theories and you
know, the field theories and so on.

482
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:57.960
So most of us have been washed
away. So here's what their theories

483
00:37:57.960 --> 00:38:00.920
are. They've had this theory called
eer equals ep are, and what it

484
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:06.679
essentially means is general relativity is equal
to quantum mechanics. And this uh,

485
00:38:06.719 --> 00:38:08.519
and actually, before I get to
this, I just want to ask you

486
00:38:08.599 --> 00:38:12.480
a pretty simple question and you can
answer however you want. Is do you

487
00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:17.159
think that we already have unification theories
of quantum macro? Y? Yeah?

488
00:38:17.239 --> 00:38:21.840
And would you say that your theory
of time of dilation theory is one of

489
00:38:21.840 --> 00:38:23.880
those theories or if not, what
would you consider to be one of those

490
00:38:23.920 --> 00:38:31.599
theories that unifies quantum macro to be, dynamic behaviorism is the unifier. Dilation

491
00:38:31.800 --> 00:38:39.079
theory is the explains the cosmos of
what we see and gravity and the structure

492
00:38:39.320 --> 00:38:45.199
of the largest scale, whereas dynamic
behaviorism covers the other side of the veil

493
00:38:45.159 --> 00:38:51.079
across the paradigm as well. So
you have to put them together. To

494
00:38:51.239 --> 00:38:55.440
unify the cosmos. One has to
answer all phenomena in the universe, not

495
00:38:55.639 --> 00:39:01.000
just that what we know and understand. Now, yeah, okay, so

496
00:39:04.119 --> 00:39:07.480
it sounds like yes, you're saying
you're saying yes, And so just to

497
00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:10.440
reiterate, just correct it requires two
sides to the coin as it were to

498
00:39:10.480 --> 00:39:15.199
be to be solved, rather than
just the one. Yeah, god yeah,

499
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:20.039
yeah, And so that's where the
er equals EPR is And just a

500
00:39:20.119 --> 00:39:23.400
correct something I said before is that
I don't think we would describe as Newtonian

501
00:39:23.400 --> 00:39:29.639
physics. It's more of Einstein Rosen
physics. Now eers Einstein Rosen and what

502
00:39:29.679 --> 00:39:35.480
we're talking about there is wormholes like
a bridge in general relativity. Some people

503
00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:37.679
have argued that black holes might have
either another black hole on the other side

504
00:39:37.760 --> 00:39:39.480
or white hole, however you want
to think of it. But you can

505
00:39:39.480 --> 00:39:45.440
think of an underlying bridge and the
matrix right where you can break through and

506
00:39:45.480 --> 00:39:47.559
take a short cut. Right,
It's like you find a little shortcut.

507
00:39:47.679 --> 00:39:55.440
And then EPR is Einstein Poldowski Rosen, which is quantum entanglement, spooky action

508
00:39:55.559 --> 00:40:00.760
at a distance. Right. And
so what Suska and the Maldosine have argued

509
00:40:00.880 --> 00:40:05.360
is, well, these concepts are
fundamentally related. Now quantum entanglement, you

510
00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:08.320
know what you're talking about, dynamic
behaviorism, right is it's taking a shortcut,

511
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:13.639
it's finding that underlying way through the
matrix, same way as the wormhole

512
00:40:13.639 --> 00:40:17.199
analogy is. And so what they
argue is that there is no difference between

513
00:40:17.199 --> 00:40:21.079
the two. It's really just a
matter of perspective in size, similar to

514
00:40:21.119 --> 00:40:24.320
what you would argue with respect to
your properties that are out there. Yes,

515
00:40:24.960 --> 00:40:29.519
and so when we already have stuff
like quantum, we have quantum entanglement,

516
00:40:29.559 --> 00:40:34.119
we have quantum teleportation literally teleporting pictures. Right. It makes me wonder

517
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:37.159
if perhaps it's just a matter of
our perspective, is that we're not going

518
00:40:37.239 --> 00:40:40.599
to see a wormhole like when we
look out there, right, We're just

519
00:40:40.719 --> 00:40:45.079
going to see maybe even just the
mouth of it, maybe even not that

520
00:40:45.239 --> 00:40:46.840
much. And it's not like it
has to be something that's sitting out there.

521
00:40:46.840 --> 00:40:51.119
It's not since I can tell you
like Star Trek Star Trek Deep Space

522
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:53.760
nine, where this big worm whole
thing appears and you're looking inside of it,

523
00:40:53.960 --> 00:40:57.519
right, that's not really what's going
to end up happening, right,

524
00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:00.000
because when we look at quantum teleportation, it's not something where you're like,

525
00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:02.400
we can see through the whole of
where this information is teleporting. It's just

526
00:41:02.440 --> 00:41:07.360
that there's this underline framework that we
can't see, right, that's able to

527
00:41:07.400 --> 00:41:09.719
do that. Now, what are
your thoughts in general about that theory and

528
00:41:09.760 --> 00:41:15.119
that unification? Sure? Okay,
Well, as I expressed, the inndication

529
00:41:15.239 --> 00:41:19.760
comes from the geometric conservational symmetries.
Okay, so that explains all the unifying

530
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:24.920
of the scales. Okay, in
that basically the proper the rule of that

531
00:41:24.960 --> 00:41:29.559
it's basically a new law, the
first law, okay, in that our

532
00:41:29.599 --> 00:41:34.360
properties to note our behavioral outcome.
Those behaviors are the states of matter for

533
00:41:34.440 --> 00:41:38.440
example, okay, like the bose
Einstein Coom said, that's one of those

534
00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:43.079
base states of matter. Water as
a fluid, is, as a gas,

535
00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:45.199
is as ices, and so on. So these are not things that

536
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:49.719
we don't understand and we don't know
about. It's just that we different terminologies.

537
00:41:50.400 --> 00:41:59.639
Okay. Now, wormholes, yes, potentially okay, as I said,

538
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:04.039
if you can manipulate the contextual domain
of quantum information, but it's not

539
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:07.519
in the same way you see,
because this is when they've got all relativity

540
00:42:07.639 --> 00:42:13.800
wrong Ashton, okay, in that
that underlying thing of the energy tensor is

541
00:42:14.800 --> 00:42:19.079
it's right, it's right, okay, But there's more to it, as

542
00:42:19.119 --> 00:42:22.360
it were, in that the more
entropy energy one has, the more dilation

543
00:42:22.480 --> 00:42:28.559
one has. Okay. So it's
the dilation that's causing the inertia, the

544
00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:34.719
slowing of time. So it's time
is the big factor, not like not

545
00:42:34.840 --> 00:42:40.079
the mass okay, but the time. Okay. So if we and those

546
00:42:40.199 --> 00:42:45.840
and going back to the wormhole thing. Okay, because we've corrected all of

547
00:42:45.880 --> 00:42:52.840
that misunderstanding, majority of what they're
saying no longer applies. That's interesting.

548
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:58.400
Yeah, we have to rethink the
whole scenario. So let's think of it

549
00:42:58.440 --> 00:43:01.000
in that contextuality way. Can we
achieve it? Okay? Can we go

550
00:43:01.039 --> 00:43:06.440
from point to point within the universe? If you could, for example,

551
00:43:06.559 --> 00:43:09.239
amends your quantum information to say,
I'm not where I am, but I

552
00:43:09.280 --> 00:43:15.079
am somewhere else, and I need
to look after the consequences of the void

553
00:43:15.159 --> 00:43:21.559
that I leave behind me and all
relevant impacting information and do exactly the same

554
00:43:21.599 --> 00:43:23.719
on the other side the other end. And I can do all that in

555
00:43:23.800 --> 00:43:30.679
that now there's no problem. But
I doubt that will ever be the case.

556
00:43:30.920 --> 00:43:36.039
Well, so it's funny because that's
what Saska and the and Maldosina actually

557
00:43:36.159 --> 00:43:38.920
argue. And it's interesting when you
watch their presentations about it, because the

558
00:43:38.960 --> 00:43:45.000
one limitation that seems to hold back
macro scale teleportation through a wormhole is mass,

559
00:43:45.519 --> 00:43:47.559
And they say that you would need
the mass because the mass is like

560
00:43:47.599 --> 00:43:51.280
you're I say, it's like your
butt trying to get through the doorway and

561
00:43:51.280 --> 00:43:53.039
you can't. You can't wait cut
it through, right, so we can

562
00:43:53.079 --> 00:43:55.760
see it works on the quantum level. But if we reduce the mass to

563
00:43:55.880 --> 00:44:00.800
zero, then the equations seem to
work out where now you can object,

564
00:44:01.280 --> 00:44:07.760
right, yeah, Now, that
I think is what's that allowed those unifications.

565
00:44:07.800 --> 00:44:10.000
And then at that point you're just
saying, I'm just allowing quantum teleportation

566
00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:14.159
of a macro object because I reduced
the mass to allow it to obtain the

567
00:44:14.159 --> 00:44:19.559
properties of quantum. You got it. So, yes, so potentially not

568
00:44:20.159 --> 00:44:24.159
as our form as we are,
but in that potential state as we're holding

569
00:44:24.199 --> 00:44:30.639
that you know, quantum like state, okay phase potentially, yes, very

570
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:37.639
much so, using entanglements that sort
of thing of where we are. But

571
00:44:38.000 --> 00:44:43.320
we've got to make sure that the
outcomes are more heavily weighted that we're over

572
00:44:43.360 --> 00:44:45.679
there rather than where we were.
Yeah, you see what I mean.

573
00:44:45.760 --> 00:44:51.679
It's like that, It's that deterministic
process needs to be ticked and the conservational

574
00:44:51.760 --> 00:44:55.360
rule needs to be ticked. If
it's more conserved to do it this way

575
00:44:55.440 --> 00:45:01.480
than the other, the universe might
say it all right, fine, yeah,

576
00:45:01.519 --> 00:45:04.480
well so I want you to hear
this part then too, because this

577
00:45:04.480 --> 00:45:07.119
is really weird. I'm had to
send you these presentations later because the one

578
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:09.960
part that I was trying to get
my head around is they throw someone into

579
00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:15.199
the wormhole and then they take a
measurement on the side where they threw somebody

580
00:45:15.280 --> 00:45:20.599
into the wormhole, and this closes
off that side of the wormhole. Then

581
00:45:20.639 --> 00:45:22.320
they throw the information over the other
side. You can think of it as

582
00:45:22.400 --> 00:45:25.760
phoning somebody on the other side,
and when the other side looks at that

583
00:45:25.800 --> 00:45:30.079
information, that shoots the person out
from that side of the wormhole. And

584
00:45:30.079 --> 00:45:34.039
I've been trying to wrap my brain
around that, but it's almost like what

585
00:45:34.079 --> 00:45:37.679
you just mentioned in terms of like
this level of symmetry. We have to

586
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:39.840
see it to close the gap and
whatever happened on the one side and now

587
00:45:40.119 --> 00:45:45.000
allow them to reappear on the other
side without you know, breaking causality or

588
00:45:45.039 --> 00:45:49.679
what have you. I still haven't
really fully grasped it, but I think

589
00:45:49.719 --> 00:45:52.800
there something there. Yeah, I
don't think so, mate. Honestly,

590
00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:58.079
I don't think ever, ever,
ever be possible, and we don't particularly

591
00:45:58.119 --> 00:46:02.920
need it to be possible because we
have all natives. Okay, let's take

592
00:46:02.920 --> 00:46:07.199
that in zero inertia state. Yeah
you are. Now, let's let's close

593
00:46:07.239 --> 00:46:09.440
our minds, you know, open
our minds a bit and say, okay,

594
00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:15.199
we're now considered quanta. We have
a much much faster a relative rate

595
00:46:15.239 --> 00:46:22.480
of time. We don't hold any
physicality as such anymore. What else,

596
00:46:22.800 --> 00:46:28.559
we're very very cold. What other
attributes would we have? Okay, we'd

597
00:46:28.599 --> 00:46:31.960
have a zero inertia state. So
the geodisics essentially of the lattice of space

598
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:36.719
time are no longer applicable to us. Of the larger scales. We now

599
00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:40.800
follow the rules of quanta. Okay. Now, as quanta with that is

600
00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:45.440
zero inertia state, if for example, we were to we know now that

601
00:46:45.639 --> 00:46:52.039
any form of entropy a slowing of
time okay, creates that inertia that passive

602
00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:57.679
transfers to the ersaal gravity. So
we can now use that a bit.

603
00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:02.280
We hold a zero inertia state.
Need directed entry in any particular direction will

604
00:47:02.320 --> 00:47:07.480
create that inertia and tug us through
the universe, but pulling the universe towards

605
00:47:07.519 --> 00:47:13.039
us. Essentially we do not move. We hold no motion at all.

606
00:47:15.360 --> 00:47:20.519
Yes, okay, that yeah,
we know that black holes essentially like cannot

607
00:47:20.599 --> 00:47:24.440
escape them. Why because the black
hole is essentially consuming the universe, the

608
00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:29.039
cosmos as it were, faster than
the speed of light travel through it.

609
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:37.719
Okay. So this method of modus
is essentially there is no speed limit and

610
00:47:37.760 --> 00:47:43.639
we can speed time up enormously.
Okay, So you know speed time and

611
00:47:43.679 --> 00:47:46.800
distance time is variable of that equation. You speed up the time as it

612
00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:52.119
were, you shorten your journey massively. Okay. So yeah, it's that

613
00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:59.639
sort of stuff. So it's we
don't need wormholes. Yeah, we can

614
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:05.480
already go anywhere at any rights of
speed, and so how do we Yeah,

615
00:48:05.920 --> 00:48:07.320
and so yeah, that's the part
too. I'm trying to understand with

616
00:48:07.360 --> 00:48:12.000
it but without motion part, because
so what would your thoughts be on the

617
00:48:12.000 --> 00:48:17.400
Alcoberry drive right where the Alcoberi drive
says yeah, absolute winning idea. So

618
00:48:17.440 --> 00:48:22.679
I'll just do a quick explanation for
people who may not be familiar, but

619
00:48:22.760 --> 00:48:28.519
Alcoberry drive is essentially the concept behind
Star Trek warp travel. And the big

620
00:48:28.559 --> 00:48:30.880
issue when moving at very high speeds
is that you have friction. You have

621
00:48:31.960 --> 00:48:37.920
this capability where the people inside are
going to get liquefied essentially from the kind

622
00:48:37.960 --> 00:48:40.639
of the effects of moving out of
very high speed. So what you need

623
00:48:40.719 --> 00:48:46.000
is a bubble around the object in
space time, which can allow therefore be

624
00:48:46.119 --> 00:48:50.559
a different frame of reference on the
inside versus outside that once you achieve that,

625
00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:52.119
you know, it sounds like we
achieve kind of what you were talking

626
00:48:52.119 --> 00:48:55.920
about, where we can have zero
mass and now this object can move at

627
00:48:57.559 --> 00:49:00.079
warp speed if we want to call
it, whatever speed you want. So

628
00:49:00.119 --> 00:49:02.079
how do you what are your thoughts
on that? How do you think we

629
00:49:02.119 --> 00:49:08.000
would achieve this Alcoebarry bubble in order
to allow for the zero mass and therefore

630
00:49:08.119 --> 00:49:16.320
increase local speed essentially that you're talking
about. Well, that zero inertia state,

631
00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:22.920
that mass reduction trick essentially by the
manipulation of time essentially on relative rate

632
00:49:22.920 --> 00:49:30.039
of time, produces that mass reduction
effect. So, like I was saying,

633
00:49:30.039 --> 00:49:32.480
we can use that to our advantage
as well, in that we can

634
00:49:32.639 --> 00:49:37.719
create directed entropy to you know,
shrink space time essentially in front of us.

635
00:49:38.039 --> 00:49:42.000
So it's shrinking, you see what
I mean. We're not actually moving,

636
00:49:42.039 --> 00:49:45.440
we're manipulating the lattice essentially. Okay, So we're doing that. That's

637
00:49:45.480 --> 00:49:52.159
achieving that particular aspect to that puzzle
jack of a drive is the same thing.

638
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:57.199
Essentially that entropy is flowing time and
that's why and he's spending up time

639
00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:00.079
at the other end of him,
So he's getting double the whack. It

640
00:50:00.159 --> 00:50:04.039
were a pull and a push.
Do you see what I mean? Yeah,

641
00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:06.800
So you would say you would be
contracting spacetime in front of you and

642
00:50:06.840 --> 00:50:08.800
expanding it behind you. Is that
what your understanding would be? Yes,

643
00:50:09.159 --> 00:50:15.039
exactly that Yeah, interesting, that's
all you need to do. Okay.

644
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:20.239
Basically, if you have, say
we had like an egg or anything else,

645
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:22.880
if we were to just have an
egg in free space, Okay,

646
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:28.800
if one side of our egg had
a slower relative rate of time than the

647
00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:37.480
other side of our egg, it
would potentially for its own motion. Yeah,

648
00:50:37.719 --> 00:50:43.840
that's to maintain that that difference.
Then it would maintain that inertia and

649
00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:47.000
potentially just go on and on faster
and faster and faster and faster, and

650
00:50:47.719 --> 00:50:52.519
it just never end. If you
did the opposite, would have just slowed

651
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:57.000
down. Then all your thoughts,
if you just well, you would essentially

652
00:50:57.079 --> 00:51:04.760
just stop. Remember we're not emotional. So now now you can see our

653
00:51:04.840 --> 00:51:13.199
friends how they now do that?
Now, Yes, I never thought about

654
00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:16.519
it backwards, because like now you
could have something stop in a superposition almost

655
00:51:16.559 --> 00:51:22.039
it feels like like freezing time.
That would be very weird. Well,

656
00:51:22.079 --> 00:51:28.880
they would push up in if they
would. Yeah, he's still there.

657
00:51:31.679 --> 00:51:38.239
Oh, I think we might have
lost Roy. So I think I'm just

658
00:51:38.239 --> 00:51:44.480
gonna riff real quick while we see
if Roy can reconnect here. But oh,

659
00:51:44.519 --> 00:51:45.800
there you are. You're back,
can you hear me? Okay?

660
00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:50.920
Yeah? Way through there. I
don't know what happened. Okay, good.

661
00:51:51.199 --> 00:51:53.039
Yeah, So just to reiterate that
real quick, I think that so

662
00:51:53.159 --> 00:51:57.400
if we think about the Alcaberry Drive, if we think about contracting space in

663
00:51:57.440 --> 00:52:00.280
front of us and expanding it behind
us, this is going to lead us

664
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:04.440
to be able to achieve faster and
faster let's say, outside frames of reference

665
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:09.079
speeds of whatever's happening there within the
let's call it craft or bubble or whatever.

666
00:52:09.320 --> 00:52:12.760
But then if we reverse it,
then it's going to slow things down

667
00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:15.159
more and more and more and more
until you potentially get to a point where

668
00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:17.440
you're frozen in time, as if
you were to approach the event horizon of

669
00:52:17.440 --> 00:52:22.840
a black hole. Right. Correct. So there's a couple that's a whole

670
00:52:22.079 --> 00:52:24.760
other aspect of it that I hadn't
even considered. But I love the idea

671
00:52:24.760 --> 00:52:29.280
of symmetry and yin and Yang,
and you know you can do the you

672
00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:34.800
know, opposite of things are always
possible. So I appreciate the understanding there

673
00:52:34.800 --> 00:52:37.599
on that side of it. But
now that you mentioned our friends, I

674
00:52:37.599 --> 00:52:42.000
think we're talking about the UAP phenomenon. I wanted to get your thoughts on

675
00:52:42.039 --> 00:52:45.280
some of that because I do have
a lot of people and viewers who are

676
00:52:45.280 --> 00:52:50.280
interested in it. You know,
my personal opinion is that I think that

677
00:52:50.280 --> 00:52:55.079
there's life out there, probably everywhere, is my personal belief. Whether or

678
00:52:55.119 --> 00:53:00.679
not there beings visiting us isn't really
that important in terms of my daily life,

679
00:53:00.679 --> 00:53:04.159
in terms of what I what happens
to me. The technology is.

680
00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:07.480
What's exciting is that there's this whole
branch of technology out there. I think

681
00:53:07.519 --> 00:53:12.519
that we're basically cavemen who just figured
out how fire works, and then we're

682
00:53:12.519 --> 00:53:15.320
thinking there, thinking oh, we've
figured it all out, We've got fire

683
00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:17.119
right, and it's like, well, you've got a long way to go

684
00:53:17.239 --> 00:53:22.159
still. So but I do I
do find it still fascinating the idea of

685
00:53:22.360 --> 00:53:27.519
non human intelligence, what's going on
out there. So go ahead and let

686
00:53:27.519 --> 00:53:30.760
me know what's your thoughts on it, what's your interest in the in the

687
00:53:30.840 --> 00:53:35.679
phenomenon and anything else you want to
discuss. Well, seeing is believing,

688
00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:38.039
as I say, isn't it.
It's all in the proof of the pudding.

689
00:53:39.320 --> 00:53:44.280
I was thirteen years old. I
was having a family barbecue with on

690
00:53:44.360 --> 00:53:47.719
my family on my thirteenth birthday.
I've been at the NAGC for quite a

691
00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:52.280
few years by that time. I
was dealing with quite heavy levels of physics

692
00:53:52.280 --> 00:53:55.000
already. What I saw, I
pointed out. We lived in the hepro

693
00:53:55.119 --> 00:54:00.559
airport, so I mentioned this my
video. You know, I'm well used

694
00:54:00.599 --> 00:54:02.719
to seeing aircraft. I know exactly
what the aircraft looks like. I know

695
00:54:02.800 --> 00:54:07.199
exactly where they stack, where they
don't, where the helicopter's coming, what

696
00:54:07.320 --> 00:54:12.599
trajectories, and what routes apply past
that everything uses. This thing essentially did

697
00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:17.880
not have the usual attributes sort of
an aircraft, in that it had a

698
00:54:17.920 --> 00:54:25.400
permanent light source that was orange orange
in color, orange glowing red in color,

699
00:54:27.079 --> 00:54:34.440
that sort of pulsed more prominently in
a repeating pattern. So that caught

700
00:54:34.480 --> 00:54:38.719
my attention because it was different me
being you know, an instant what are

701
00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:45.480
you mode? You know that sort
of inquisitive kid. So and then asking

702
00:54:45.559 --> 00:54:50.360
the smart guy in my family,
my uncle Dennis, what's that then,

703
00:54:50.440 --> 00:54:54.239
and he's saying, hmm, that's
interesting. Mmm, you know the usual

704
00:54:54.320 --> 00:54:58.719
sort of thing. Won't put his
finger on it. And then you know

705
00:54:58.960 --> 00:55:02.280
more and more people's tension of being
drawn to this thing as we're discussing it,

706
00:55:02.840 --> 00:55:08.639
and as we were this single atmosphere
in under a second from a standstill

707
00:55:08.679 --> 00:55:16.039
position above about forty foot above the
skyline of the housing that was about half

708
00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:22.360
mile away. So within three minutes, I said to myself, that's impossible.

709
00:55:22.480 --> 00:55:27.119
Known the laws that I know,
the only way logical possible that that

710
00:55:27.159 --> 00:55:30.320
can do that is this, it
holds a relative past rate of time thirteen

711
00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:36.840
and I know already that they hold
a past relative rate of time. That

712
00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:43.679
started to pursuit of abo my understanding
about what the attributes of time really were.

713
00:55:44.320 --> 00:55:46.679
In that enlightened me. That moment
enlightened me, as it were,

714
00:55:47.199 --> 00:55:52.599
And then I started pursuing the attributes
of time and looking for things in nature

715
00:55:52.039 --> 00:55:55.480
that would guide me in that way, and I found them in conservation and

716
00:55:55.519 --> 00:56:00.719
symmetry. So that then led to
dilation theory. But it actually began when

717
00:56:00.760 --> 00:56:05.679
I was thirteen years old on that
evening. Yeah, and it's tricky too,

718
00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:08.159
right time is because we're all on
the same Earth, right, and

719
00:56:08.199 --> 00:56:13.719
we're on the surface and it's a
sphere, so we are all theoretically experiencing

720
00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:17.480
time at a very very similar rate, almost indistinguishable on another. Yeah,

721
00:56:17.559 --> 00:56:22.079
so that's the trick of time dilation. Why we don't see it now?

722
00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:23.800
For me, I wish I was
only thirteen years old when I had such

723
00:56:23.840 --> 00:56:25.760
an epiphany. It was actually for
me, It wasn't until I watched the

724
00:56:25.760 --> 00:56:29.880
movie Interstellar where I realized, like, wait a minute, what time dilation

725
00:56:30.000 --> 00:56:31.559
is real? And then I google
it because I didn't believe. I just

726
00:56:31.559 --> 00:56:36.880
thought there's no way. And so
you know, it's been a rapid understanding

727
00:56:36.920 --> 00:56:39.159
for me on that front. Well, what are your thoughts then, do

728
00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:44.119
you believe that there are other non
human intelligence beings visiting us? What's your

729
00:56:44.119 --> 00:56:46.440
favorite theory when it comes to non
human intelligence? Where do you think they're

730
00:56:46.440 --> 00:56:51.400
from? The well, as we've
explored it, the capability to be coming

731
00:56:51.440 --> 00:56:58.239
from absolutely anywhere, and the cost
busses. Now, as this slaps nils

732
00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:04.920
ideas you know who I'm talking about
right out of the park. Not a

733
00:57:04.960 --> 00:57:10.960
clue, yes, but I guess
what A guess? Yeah, of his

734
00:57:12.039 --> 00:57:14.400
theory is when it comes to an
him intelligence, I feel like it's a

735
00:57:14.519 --> 00:57:22.519
very closed minded approach right to the
science, classical physics. I'm afraid,

736
00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:28.000
tied to classical physics, mass tied
to you know, to what he's produced

737
00:57:28.039 --> 00:57:30.599
all his career and his life,
and he must stick to it. And

738
00:57:30.400 --> 00:57:42.519
I you know, salute is stoic
attitude to dead ideas. Yeah, yeah,

739
00:57:42.960 --> 00:57:45.559
so I guess what you're saying there
is, Please correct if I'm wrong,

740
00:57:45.639 --> 00:57:47.880
is that once you get to a
point where you can have a zero

741
00:57:49.000 --> 00:57:55.480
inertia and superluminal speeds essentially quantum teleportation
but of macroscale objects, then the local

742
00:57:55.519 --> 00:58:00.960
frame of reference for the traveler there
time is they're not going to experience as

743
00:58:01.039 --> 00:58:05.639
much time as it takes to you
know, come here from a thousand light

744
00:58:05.679 --> 00:58:07.840
years away. It's not going to
feel like a thousand years for them,

745
00:58:07.920 --> 00:58:10.360
right, They can achieve they can
come here basically instantly, right, So,

746
00:58:10.559 --> 00:58:14.639
well, you would this is the
thing. You would only need that

747
00:58:14.760 --> 00:58:17.480
very faster relative rate of time if
you had something you had to negate the

748
00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:22.960
gravity of Wow. Yeah, okay, So if you're passing through a solar

749
00:58:22.000 --> 00:58:25.039
system, planets and things like that, turn on the base. We need

750
00:58:25.079 --> 00:58:29.679
to be independent of these guys all
black holes or whatever. It would give

751
00:58:29.719 --> 00:58:32.239
you a complete independence from everything.
There would be no inertia of bonding from

752
00:58:32.239 --> 00:58:37.679
anything. You're the fastest guy in
town, okay, right, so you

753
00:58:37.760 --> 00:58:44.679
only need that one and the baggage
that comes with that would be an incredible

754
00:58:44.920 --> 00:58:50.920
age essentially if you were to maintain
that. Yeah, so that's the problem.

755
00:58:50.960 --> 00:58:54.559
There's a hangout aging. Okay,
So you know you would rapidly age

756
00:58:54.559 --> 00:59:00.880
in that type of base state in
that term I mean if I don't know,

757
00:59:00.000 --> 00:59:06.039
perhaps you don't age when you are
the phase of contact. Yeah,

758
00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:08.800
you see what I mean. There's
lots and lots and lots of things here

759
00:59:08.800 --> 00:59:14.239
that we need to test, look
at what's going to happen, see what

760
00:59:14.280 --> 00:59:16.760
the outcomes are. There's lots and
lots of things that need to be played

761
00:59:16.760 --> 00:59:21.599
with us before we even play with
this. I do not recommend anybody playing

762
00:59:21.639 --> 00:59:25.639
with the phase of contact in their
whatever. Okay, don't play with this

763
00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:30.440
stuff. Do not play with dynamic
behavior and then in any way possible at

764
00:59:30.440 --> 00:59:35.320
all. It's extraordinarily dangerous. Okay, your mum will be tiding you up

765
00:59:35.360 --> 00:59:39.079
with a mop Okay, Yeah,
what do you think the implications are the

766
00:59:39.119 --> 00:59:43.800
cyber technology. I think that's probably
a good thing to jump into next.

767
00:59:44.519 --> 00:59:46.519
Well, so we're going to have
to face the implications of the technology.

768
00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:52.599
They are onto logical. Okay,
certain aspects of this are onto logical.

769
00:59:52.039 --> 00:59:55.400
I won't go into that, you
know, and now unless ask, but

770
00:59:57.320 --> 01:00:00.159
it's it's it's a type rope.
We're going to have to walk, like

771
01:00:00.199 --> 01:00:05.079
with anything, like with the gun, like with the boat, like with

772
01:00:05.320 --> 01:00:08.880
fire, like with the wheel,
like with the aircraft, like with any

773
01:00:09.000 --> 01:00:15.000
development of humanity. We will have
to deal with the implications of the change.

774
01:00:15.639 --> 01:00:20.239
Okay. Now, one of the
changes is massive benefits to us as

775
01:00:20.280 --> 01:00:24.480
a resource in that we are no
longer limited to any resource. Why are

776
01:00:24.519 --> 01:00:30.840
we fighting what about space? Well, we can go anywhere. What are

777
01:00:30.840 --> 01:00:36.320
we fighting for? Sorry, We've
got bigger problems to deal with, and

778
01:00:36.440 --> 01:00:40.360
one of them is our dogmatic tribalism. It's got to end boats, okay,

779
01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:45.199
because if we go, we've got
to go together. Okay. That's

780
01:00:45.280 --> 01:00:50.960
the rule. Okay, one rule
that I've figured out. That's the rule.

781
01:00:51.639 --> 01:00:55.239
You must go together. They will
not put up with us being feral

782
01:00:55.360 --> 01:01:00.480
out there. Okay. End of
now, if it is a construct,

783
01:01:00.559 --> 01:01:07.360
a holographic construct as such, what
a nuclear few vision doing? What is

784
01:01:07.400 --> 01:01:10.480
it doing? What a nuclear bombs
doing. They're reversing the natural order process

785
01:01:10.480 --> 01:01:15.079
of the universe by ripping everything apart, rather than things getting more and more

786
01:01:15.400 --> 01:01:21.920
enterpy, more complex. Okay,
what's going to happen to the underlying quantum

787
01:01:21.960 --> 01:01:27.320
information there or the residing data,
whether that's its or what is related to

788
01:01:28.519 --> 01:01:34.920
you don't know. Stop playing with
this shit. Okay, that's the point.

789
01:01:35.320 --> 01:01:38.840
They have no idea what they're playing
with at all. This is how

790
01:01:38.920 --> 01:01:46.480
it changes everything, Ashton, absolutely
changes everything. Wouldn't you as a developer,

791
01:01:46.639 --> 01:01:51.920
if say you were responsible for this
particular construct, let them piss with

792
01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:58.119
it? Mama, No, No, From a database ARCTEC standpoint, you

793
01:01:58.159 --> 01:02:00.840
never want anyone meddling in your in
your sandbox, so to speak. You

794
01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:06.280
don't want anyone pressing with your baby. Yeah, that's definitely true. What

795
01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:08.239
do you do you think? Just
going back to the up phenomenon real quick,

796
01:02:09.079 --> 01:02:13.519
of these UFOs we're seeing out there, I'm just going to call them

797
01:02:13.559 --> 01:02:15.880
what they are. You know,
what percentage would you think are potentially man

798
01:02:15.960 --> 01:02:22.480
made at this point versus ones?
That are of other origin, unknown origin,

799
01:02:22.599 --> 01:02:24.480
And I think that this is more
of a question of knowing how long

800
01:02:24.559 --> 01:02:28.119
this physics may have been out there. I mean, you're talking about it

801
01:02:28.159 --> 01:02:31.119
thirty years ago almost right, Like
you think that what were your thoughts to

802
01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:35.599
be on the ratio there and doesn't
have to be exact, just curiously your

803
01:02:35.599 --> 01:02:45.039
thoughts. In general, I think
the morphology is to giveaway, Okay.

804
01:02:45.159 --> 01:02:51.760
The morphology tells you the actual levels
of the technology when you ultimately realize what

805
01:02:51.800 --> 01:02:54.039
it all is and how it all
hangs together and ever you think you realize

806
01:02:54.079 --> 01:03:00.800
that those those conservational geometric symmetries essentially
are at work there, and that if

807
01:03:00.800 --> 01:03:05.599
you can emulate quanta, perhaps we
can emulate other forms of even smaller scale

808
01:03:05.599 --> 01:03:14.239
geometry. Okay, so that tells
you your morphology. So I'm essentially saying

809
01:03:14.280 --> 01:03:17.039
that it depends on what they look
like in terms of Yes, that tells

810
01:03:17.039 --> 01:03:22.679
you their technology. Okay level.
Now I would say we were probably in

811
01:03:22.719 --> 01:03:25.559
the orb region. Yeah, because
that's probably the simplest thing to do.

812
01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:32.679
Okay, all the sorcery sort of
stuff that's very easy to do. The

813
01:03:32.800 --> 01:03:39.679
cubes that's very difficult to do.
But once you get cube tech sort of

814
01:03:39.760 --> 01:03:45.079
level. Then you can go city
tech level, neutron star level, you

815
01:03:45.119 --> 01:03:49.800
know what I mean, it doesn't
matter how big you get when once you've

816
01:03:49.840 --> 01:03:52.519
got to that level and this is
this is what it's showing. This is

817
01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:57.360
confusing to me because I see,
you know whatever, and I hear the

818
01:03:57.440 --> 01:04:00.280
reports of different this crap looks like
this, this crop, this has more

819
01:04:00.280 --> 01:04:06.000
apology, just have that, And
I'm thinking to myself, why are they

820
01:04:06.199 --> 01:04:10.360
in saurceers anyway? I mean,
you know, if you figured this stuff

821
01:04:10.360 --> 01:04:14.239
out and you know it dynamic,
had that emulation as such is the thing,

822
01:04:14.440 --> 01:04:18.559
then why would you even bother with
the saucer basic stuff, you know,

823
01:04:18.679 --> 01:04:24.480
which tells me that you haven't reully
figured it all out certain species and

824
01:04:24.559 --> 01:04:29.800
that we might actually have to jump
on quite a few. Yeah. So

825
01:04:29.880 --> 01:04:31.960
I think what you're saying there is
the orbit sphere would be the easiest thing

826
01:04:32.000 --> 01:04:35.320
to make. So potentially, if
we see spheres out there, that would

827
01:04:35.360 --> 01:04:39.639
be probably the lowest form of technology
that might be where we're at potentially,

828
01:04:39.679 --> 01:04:43.559
if we're just hypothesizing. Right,
when you start to get more complex shapes,

829
01:04:43.679 --> 01:04:45.400
like that's where it's like, Okay, now you're really able to manipulate

830
01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:51.000
the effects at the very small level, like very high levels of control of

831
01:04:51.039 --> 01:04:56.719
the quantum effects right on the Maercroskill
level. That's interesting because it makes me

832
01:04:56.719 --> 01:04:59.360
think about Star Trek again. It's
always going back to Star Trek for some

833
01:04:59.400 --> 01:05:02.239
reason with the b and their cubes, right, even though it's not really

834
01:05:02.280 --> 01:05:05.360
how we play out, but it's
it's still it shows a level of just

835
01:05:05.519 --> 01:05:12.320
complete technological superiority. Right, So
yes it does. But like I said,

836
01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:15.440
once you understand it, or it
makes you want ponder like did they

837
01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:19.760
miss a trick? Yeah, it's
like or is that the cheap budget version.

838
01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:25.760
Well that's what I think about the
video game Civilization a lot. And

839
01:05:25.800 --> 01:05:29.159
the part about it I think of
is there's this tech tree, and like

840
01:05:29.400 --> 01:05:32.000
generally what happens is different people with
different parts down the tech tree. And

841
01:05:32.039 --> 01:05:38.800
what this kind of is analogous to
is this idea that just because a civilization

842
01:05:38.880 --> 01:05:41.559
is very advanced in one area doesn't
mean they're going to be very advanced in

843
01:05:41.559 --> 01:05:45.239
all areas. Right, And you
can also look at our past civilizations on

844
01:05:45.280 --> 01:05:47.199
this planet, and I think you
could argue some of that as well,

845
01:05:47.280 --> 01:05:51.679
is that some past civilizations may not
have had computers, but they still understand

846
01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:55.719
these quantum effects at a level maybe
even better than we do right now.

847
01:05:57.280 --> 01:06:00.000
And so I find that's very interesting
as well, So that that could explain

848
01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:02.599
why you might have beings they are
busying us in a saucer, even though

849
01:06:02.599 --> 01:06:08.000
it may not be the most efficient
method of you know, a microscopic quantum

850
01:06:08.239 --> 01:06:13.559
uh, you know, entanglement or
a quantum coherence, but it's still a

851
01:06:13.599 --> 01:06:15.639
method where they can still you know, achieve whatever they're trying to do to

852
01:06:15.679 --> 01:06:19.320
travel whatever distances they need to travel. Maybe they're only coming from Alpha Centauri

853
01:06:19.360 --> 01:06:23.760
and that's satisfactory. I don't know, just making it up. They could

854
01:06:23.760 --> 01:06:27.159
be coming from even nearer. They
could be coming from say Europa, Yeah,

855
01:06:27.199 --> 01:06:30.199
there you go. Yeah, even
within the solar system itself. Yeah,

856
01:06:30.480 --> 01:06:35.719
or some you know truth I mean, or here these it's it's it's

857
01:06:35.840 --> 01:06:40.440
yeah, it's it's really yeah,
or even here who knows, I mean,

858
01:06:40.559 --> 01:06:43.679
best guess, isn't it really until
we actually get you know, and

859
01:06:43.719 --> 01:06:47.519
ask them, hi from chaps?
Yeah, you know, it's that sort

860
01:06:47.559 --> 01:06:51.840
of But it's like, what was
I going to say? Yeah, I

861
01:06:51.880 --> 01:06:58.360
mean, those those rules of properties
to note the behavior don't just work for

862
01:06:58.400 --> 01:07:02.920
the cosmos. They seem to apply
everything mhm, even in nature. So

863
01:07:03.199 --> 01:07:13.159
if we look at the attributes of
them large eyes, h small, it

864
01:07:13.159 --> 01:07:16.239
sounds like a subterrannial species to me. Properties to know, you see what

865
01:07:16.280 --> 01:07:19.679
I mean, the environments as it
were, and the environments to know the

866
01:07:19.760 --> 01:07:25.519
attributes of whatever it is. Okay, so we look at them and then

867
01:07:25.559 --> 01:07:29.039
look at okay, what are the
environmental things upon them, and we can

868
01:07:29.079 --> 01:07:31.880
pretty much say what sort of where
they're from, and you know that sort

869
01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:35.760
of stuff. I mean, I
think Gary Nolan should should be digging down

870
01:07:36.119 --> 01:07:42.280
down that one really rather than me. But it seems pretty obvious to me.

871
01:07:42.960 --> 01:07:45.599
Huge eyes, Well they live in
a low light environment, you know

872
01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:51.239
what I mean. I mean,
right, I mean adapt to your environment,

873
01:07:51.360 --> 01:07:54.519
you know, especially over a long
periods of time. I mean,

874
01:07:54.760 --> 01:08:00.360
we can get that here. However, we've now got another problem up to

875
01:08:00.400 --> 01:08:04.840
another issue, which is that say
they were using that phase all the way

876
01:08:05.920 --> 01:08:13.159
and that things rapidly age within that
play state unless you've actually mastered DNA replication

877
01:08:13.280 --> 01:08:17.159
process where your time is no longer
relevant to you and you will live forever

878
01:08:18.720 --> 01:08:23.800
like an octopie or whatever, you
know, like some jellyfishes can do that

879
01:08:23.920 --> 01:08:30.479
sort of thing, or would you
make them on route or when they're right.

880
01:08:32.359 --> 01:08:36.680
Some of the attributes of this require
that, I think to some degree

881
01:08:36.800 --> 01:08:43.640
that you require sentience. Okay,
Now, yeah, consciousness is linked in

882
01:08:44.159 --> 01:08:45.640
a whole wou crowd out there are
going to be raising air arms in you.

883
01:08:46.039 --> 01:08:51.439
We love you. Yeah, it
does, okay, in that everything

884
01:08:53.560 --> 01:08:58.199
of that moment denotes the outcome,
even you, what you're thinking, Okay,

885
01:08:58.680 --> 01:09:00.720
all that sort of stuff. You're
consciousness. Now, as I said

886
01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:04.479
before, if we deal with the
universe in the way of contextualities, then

887
01:09:04.560 --> 01:09:12.960
one can consider us consciousness itself perhaps
an emergent property m and that we are.

888
01:09:13.079 --> 01:09:17.039
Therefore, if it's a holographic constructors
the hypothesis is looking like it is,

889
01:09:17.800 --> 01:09:23.399
then you are avatar. I was
about to say that. Okay,

890
01:09:23.760 --> 01:09:28.319
So now we are all linked in
that parental domain, as it were,

891
01:09:28.920 --> 01:09:33.399
and we are all here as avatar
in the abstract consciousness out here, right,

892
01:09:33.560 --> 01:09:38.119
And yes, that's in the matrix
somewhere else in the underline framework,

893
01:09:38.159 --> 01:09:42.720
and this is connected to it,
right, yeah, because we do not

894
01:09:42.800 --> 01:09:47.000
hold the correct context. Now,
now he's developed our heads turned on that

895
01:09:47.239 --> 01:09:53.039
one. So what I mean,
it's all about one's contextuality and one's properties

896
01:09:53.079 --> 01:09:57.720
about any one moment. So what
you're saying there is that you could fly

897
01:09:57.880 --> 01:10:02.359
your object to another distant solars without
even maybe passengers in it can build the

898
01:10:02.399 --> 01:10:09.159
body when you arrive and have your
consciousness somehow avatar your way into it,

899
01:10:09.319 --> 01:10:12.800
right and now you so there may
even be ways to get around this issue

900
01:10:12.840 --> 01:10:17.359
of your speeding up of your time
kind of housing this mass aging, rabid

901
01:10:17.399 --> 01:10:23.319
aging that happened to you. Yes, there are multiple opportunities, now you

902
01:10:23.359 --> 01:10:27.000
know what I mean. One thing
leads to another, it leaves more opportunities.

903
01:10:27.720 --> 01:10:30.119
But you've got to have a total
grasp but the whole big picture really

904
01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:34.159
before you can even start to look
at some of those probabilities or possibilities.

905
01:10:34.760 --> 01:10:41.399
I mean you're talking about bulk in
all of the probabilities or possibilities, could

906
01:10:41.439 --> 01:10:47.680
there be balk Yeah, No,
that's the answer to that one. No,

907
01:10:48.520 --> 01:10:51.960
Because once you realize, as I
said, what the cosmos is essentially,

908
01:10:53.039 --> 01:10:55.520
and they will get to that point
no matter who you are, where

909
01:10:55.560 --> 01:10:59.199
you are in it. Yeah,
okay, then you will understand the fundamentally

910
01:10:59.239 --> 01:11:02.680
a lot more about it in what
it is and what is purpose or is

911
01:11:04.119 --> 01:11:09.680
and what your purpose within it is
in that it is of you and you

912
01:11:09.760 --> 01:11:15.359
are ultimately of it. M So
you're saying that there would be a higher

913
01:11:15.399 --> 01:11:18.960
spiritual understanding as too, more of
a mechanical more so, much more so,

914
01:11:19.119 --> 01:11:25.319
incredibly more so. Okay, that's
more spenting species of that per section

915
01:11:25.520 --> 01:11:34.520
level of perception. Would consider everything
holy, Yeah, spiritual everything. That's

916
01:11:34.520 --> 01:11:40.479
interesting. It makes me think of
the idea of dharma and you know,

917
01:11:40.560 --> 01:11:44.680
holy in life to be sacred,
like the way that people in India whole

918
01:11:44.720 --> 01:11:49.119
cows to be sacred, et cetera. It's like you achieve this unity with

919
01:11:49.520 --> 01:11:54.560
the planet itself and I think that's
a very beautiful thought in general, right,

920
01:11:54.720 --> 01:12:00.159
just unity with the cosmos essentially,
that's the point you would read to

921
01:12:00.199 --> 01:12:02.880
that point. Now, like I
said, it's some of the bits and

922
01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:08.680
pieces are ontological, but some of
it is ontological to the point of it's

923
01:12:08.720 --> 01:12:12.680
actually bloody good news for a lot
of people. Yeah, Okay, Now,

924
01:12:13.119 --> 01:12:15.319
I've been an atheist my whole life. My head has been filled with

925
01:12:15.319 --> 01:12:19.520
physics and science and everything else.
I ask anyone in my family what I've

926
01:12:20.199 --> 01:12:24.239
about God forever? Okay, So
I'm not going to hold my hands up

927
01:12:24.279 --> 01:12:29.880
and said, I believe in God. But any construct requires a construct Yeah,

928
01:12:30.199 --> 01:12:34.359
that's the point. Any construct requires
a constructor. And we do live

929
01:12:34.439 --> 01:12:45.520
in a construct. We live in
a contextual emergent contextual duality of geometric symmetries

930
01:12:45.560 --> 01:12:51.479
within symmetries projected upon a gauge lattice
as a holographic space time continuum. That

931
01:12:53.159 --> 01:12:58.039
is the cosmos. Now we know
what the box is, it's time to

932
01:12:58.039 --> 01:13:00.960
play yes so on that front,
and this is I think one of the

933
01:13:01.039 --> 01:13:03.359
last questions I want to ask,
although it's going to bring it back to

934
01:13:03.520 --> 01:13:08.600
the dark side of this as well, is what do you believe that this

935
01:13:08.680 --> 01:13:12.079
type of technology. I'll just throw
this out there. My understanding is that

936
01:13:12.079 --> 01:13:15.439
this is like a Pandora's box.
Once you open up the world of technology,

937
01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:17.000
it's not coming back in. You're
getting all of it. You can't

938
01:13:17.039 --> 01:13:19.560
just pick and shoes, you know. This isn't a burger king. You

939
01:13:19.560 --> 01:13:24.039
can't customize to have it your way. You've got to take everything. And

940
01:13:24.159 --> 01:13:30.279
what that means in my mind is
doomsday weapons. The ability to destroy our

941
01:13:30.319 --> 01:13:33.039
whole planet becomes just simple, not
just a matter of dropping a bomb,

942
01:13:33.039 --> 01:13:38.279
but like literally destroying the whole planet, or destroying the Sun, or maybe

943
01:13:38.279 --> 01:13:41.720
even our destroying our whole universe.
What is your thoughts on that and how

944
01:13:41.720 --> 01:13:46.000
do you think humanity has to be
responsible to prevent that from happening? Exactly

945
01:13:46.039 --> 01:13:50.520
that we need to be very very
very responsible. Okay, Now we already

946
01:13:50.560 --> 01:13:56.279
have that capability. We already are
this antimata. If we were to allow

947
01:13:56.319 --> 01:14:01.800
that antimatter to collide as it were
to nothing, that would remove our planet

948
01:14:01.800 --> 01:14:08.000
and half the Solar System. So
we already have that capability without this technology

949
01:14:08.079 --> 01:14:12.600
to do that. And real quick, what does antimatter basically, it's the

950
01:14:12.720 --> 01:14:16.600
other side of matter. How do
we have that? That would argue that

951
01:14:16.640 --> 01:14:19.920
we don't, So I'm just curious. Yes, we do have it.

952
01:14:20.399 --> 01:14:25.319
We have anti hydrogen, for example, and we use it at certain Okay,

953
01:14:25.359 --> 01:14:29.640
so we do hold it, but
we only produce very very small microbe

954
01:14:29.640 --> 01:14:34.000
amounts at that time and then release
that and observe that. So it's tiny,

955
01:14:34.159 --> 01:14:39.119
tiny, tiny amounts that we are
actually producing. But we do.

956
01:14:39.359 --> 01:14:42.600
So the capability of doing what you
say is already there, okay, but

957
01:14:42.680 --> 01:14:45.800
we haven't done it. Why of
course the one I've said children, Yeah,

958
01:14:45.920 --> 01:14:50.720
Okay. Everyone wants a better world
for their children, even the Russians,

959
01:14:51.359 --> 01:14:55.840
Okay, even the Chinese, they
want a better world for theirs,

960
01:14:56.000 --> 01:14:58.479
and so on and so on.
And if we can come to a common

961
01:14:58.479 --> 01:15:02.079
agreement that okay, let's for our
children and do this for them the future,

962
01:15:02.600 --> 01:15:05.800
and I think we're all going to
be in a good place, okay,

963
01:15:06.079 --> 01:15:10.359
and that if we set down some
ground rules. For example, no

964
01:15:10.760 --> 01:15:16.960
militarization of this technology. None.
Okay, this technology can be mitigated when

965
01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:20.359
one understands it completely. Asta.
I'm not going to go into those details,

966
01:15:21.199 --> 01:15:28.199
but it can be mitigated. Okay. We can't stop them, Okay,

967
01:15:28.640 --> 01:15:32.159
we can control them if we want
it to with a greater understanding of

968
01:15:32.199 --> 01:15:38.720
the technology. Okay, So that
mitigates all that. Oh we're going to

969
01:15:38.720 --> 01:15:42.319
blow up the world with this,
and we can zoom things into things like

970
01:15:42.399 --> 01:15:45.239
that can sit through matter exactly in
that funny state and everything. Well,

971
01:15:46.159 --> 01:15:49.680
yeah, and no, because you
can mitigate against this technology as well,

972
01:15:50.640 --> 01:15:55.359
just as much as you can create
it. That's good. It's interesting to

973
01:15:55.399 --> 01:15:58.560
know. I mean, one thing
to day Rossi has mentioned is this ability

974
01:15:58.560 --> 01:16:01.119
to detect gravitational way, which could
be a way where you could detect the

975
01:16:01.199 --> 01:16:08.279
use of the technology and is a
gravitational way. Now, if we look

976
01:16:08.279 --> 01:16:11.960
at the dialation series side of it, what is a gravitational way. All

977
01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:15.640
that is is essentially a ripple of
slow time in the symmetry of time.

978
01:16:16.800 --> 01:16:23.319
Okay, So all you need to
do is look for where and what our

979
01:16:23.359 --> 01:16:26.039
friends are doing is that they are
doing the other end of that. They're

980
01:16:26.079 --> 01:16:29.840
not slowing time, they are spreading
up time. So all we need to

981
01:16:29.880 --> 01:16:34.800
do is use interfrometry in an array
and see where time is being sped up.

982
01:16:36.119 --> 01:16:40.960
Okay, we can do that now, so we can use these things

983
01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:45.760
to track them or put up safeguards
against them or whatever. Also, any

984
01:16:46.079 --> 01:16:51.039
this, obviously, when it produces
into a place tape is another form of

985
01:16:51.199 --> 01:16:56.079
simply electromagnetism. Anyway, it doesn't
matter, it still is the form of

986
01:16:56.119 --> 01:17:04.159
electromagnetism. Diamagnetics reject electron geticism.
Okay, So diagmagnetics can be a shield

987
01:17:04.199 --> 01:17:11.079
against them. Okay. Also,
the properties are diagnogetics can help us create

988
01:17:11.119 --> 01:17:15.600
that state in that if you would
have a close form of energy associated next

989
01:17:15.680 --> 01:17:18.960
to a diagnagnetic and you were to
put power to it, the electrons traveling

990
01:17:18.960 --> 01:17:26.119
through that medium would be rejected by
the diaminetic and become extended. Extended electrons

991
01:17:26.159 --> 01:17:32.520
are a property of content. The
can auncil actors actually a building tool building

992
01:17:32.600 --> 01:17:38.119
blockers, yes, where you can
create it or reject it as it were,

993
01:17:38.239 --> 01:17:42.840
using exactly the same material. Okay, so it's extraordinarly easy to make

994
01:17:42.880 --> 01:17:45.720
this stuff, to be honest,
And the technology is essentially the same as

995
01:17:45.760 --> 01:17:54.079
your your refrigerator in that all you
are doing is that you are getting preferential

996
01:17:54.119 --> 01:17:59.760
outcomes of behavior by changing one's potential
properties, which is exactly what we do

997
01:17:59.800 --> 01:18:04.279
in the refrigerator. One of the
most powerful diamagnetic elements is bismuth as well.

998
01:18:04.319 --> 01:18:08.159
I think they keep coming back up
time and time and time again in

999
01:18:08.159 --> 01:18:15.560
this uh liquid bismuth is five hundred
old. Then it's solid property. So

1000
01:18:15.640 --> 01:18:19.119
again those symmetries different things. In
different symmetries give different relative rates of time

1001
01:18:19.199 --> 01:18:26.159
and give different strengths of its electromagnetic
resonance ability. M So we cut it

1002
01:18:26.199 --> 01:18:30.680
down. Might be a method that
you could do to change his properties?

1003
01:18:30.720 --> 01:18:34.680
Then yeah, well it's it's it's
smelting point is very low. It's even

1004
01:18:34.720 --> 01:18:41.760
lower than interesting, So you could
have something like, Yeah, so liquid

1005
01:18:41.840 --> 01:18:49.760
form of busmus and then have something
with a high lineal say strontium, with

1006
01:18:50.359 --> 01:18:57.680
like, you know, high electrons, so that the closer the electron is

1007
01:18:57.760 --> 01:19:00.399
to nuclear hard that they are to
knock off. Then okay, the further

1008
01:19:00.520 --> 01:19:05.760
they are awaving the nucleis center,
the easier they are to knock to extend.

1009
01:19:06.000 --> 01:19:11.840
Okay, so you want materials that
got those high electrons, so strontium

1010
01:19:11.920 --> 01:19:15.600
is a good one. Bor on
things like that, and then have that

1011
01:19:15.720 --> 01:19:23.560
behind some sort of dibagnetic pumps and
power through its, ay even copper magnesium,

1012
01:19:23.600 --> 01:19:26.880
something that, you know, something
really cool that can you know,

1013
01:19:27.640 --> 01:19:30.159
you put round in those particular shapes
that you need, as we see in

1014
01:19:30.199 --> 01:19:35.760
the aircraft, the particular orbits or
the electrons as it were. So yeah,

1015
01:19:35.800 --> 01:19:40.159
that goes back to your flight in
that Basically, what that's showing is

1016
01:19:40.159 --> 01:19:46.439
a transitional phase in that the orbs
are emulating the behavior of Quanda because they

1017
01:19:46.479 --> 01:19:53.640
already hold that superconductive state and are
already considered by the universe therefore guanta all

1018
01:19:53.680 --> 01:19:57.119
right, Okay, so it gets
into a pattern. Oh, we've got

1019
01:19:57.239 --> 01:20:03.159
nucleari, We've now got electrons orbiting. Oh, Quanta transitional base. Okay,

1020
01:20:03.439 --> 01:20:08.359
that incredible speed, rate of time
instantly, the cold environment and so

1021
01:20:08.439 --> 01:20:12.119
on, it looks like teleportation.
But essentially what this thing has just done

1022
01:20:12.199 --> 01:20:15.720
is shot up and incredible rex but
that way in your eye or the camera

1023
01:20:15.720 --> 01:20:19.920
concin so yeah, you'd only have
to need it on for like second,

1024
01:20:20.399 --> 01:20:26.640
and you'd be five hundred miles that
way. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah.

1025
01:20:26.680 --> 01:20:29.600
And just for people that following along, we're talking about the MH three

1026
01:20:29.640 --> 01:20:32.159
seven zero videos, we're talking about
the orbs traversing around the plane and the

1027
01:20:32.199 --> 01:20:36.720
trip plane just disappearing straight from space
time with this endo thermic events, this

1028
01:20:36.840 --> 01:20:40.920
absorption of energy that we see there. I think that a lot of people

1029
01:20:40.960 --> 01:20:43.880
have their own opinions in terms of
how to explain it. And that's part

1030
01:20:43.880 --> 01:20:46.439
of what is so exciting for me
when I talk to physicists and engineers is

1031
01:20:46.600 --> 01:20:51.319
getting everyone's different theories and understandings of
how it's it's happening, and trying in

1032
01:20:51.319 --> 01:20:57.600
my own mind to like mesh and
reconcile them together. So I think,

1033
01:20:59.039 --> 01:21:01.840
yes, on star article, look
at the other one. The correlation with

1034
01:21:01.920 --> 01:21:05.800
this fight the spin and the time, and there's rates and so on and

1035
01:21:06.920 --> 01:21:10.920
brilly much. You don't need a
degree. Just like I said, common

1036
01:21:10.960 --> 01:21:15.800
sense. Really look at what you're
looking at, Examine that. What are

1037
01:21:15.840 --> 01:21:18.600
the properties of it? What does
that correlate to? Do we know anything

1038
01:21:18.600 --> 01:21:23.920
about that? Yes? Does it
then make sense? Yes? Gives you

1039
01:21:23.960 --> 01:21:28.479
the answer? Awesome? Well,
thanks, Roy. I think that's probably

1040
01:21:28.479 --> 01:21:30.319
a good spot to end on this
particular conversation. Do you want to go

1041
01:21:30.319 --> 01:21:34.439
ahead and plug anything or anyone or
you know, thank anyone or whatever you

1042
01:21:34.479 --> 01:21:38.039
want to do and give you a
few months ahead. Well, obviously I'd

1043
01:21:38.079 --> 01:21:43.640
like to fight think Mike gifted colleague
Martin Gibson, who it goes under the

1044
01:21:43.640 --> 01:21:46.880
account of uni servant, where dilation
theory in the math and all of the

1045
01:21:46.960 --> 01:21:49.960
detail and all of that, and
the physics side of it, the more

1046
01:21:50.000 --> 01:21:55.279
serious side of it rather than my
abstract musings as well, is on his

1047
01:21:55.359 --> 01:21:59.600
account. The more visual side of
it is on my account. And also

1048
01:22:00.199 --> 01:22:03.560
to say that for any technical reference
or anything to do with the phenomena,

1049
01:22:04.560 --> 01:22:13.279
people should be contacting Ted Row Okay, because Ted is fully aware of the

1050
01:22:13.319 --> 01:22:18.079
modus the abstract and is one of
the people that's actually seen the non public

1051
01:22:18.119 --> 01:22:24.359
domain information. Okay, So if
you do want any I will pug ted

1052
01:22:24.760 --> 01:22:30.000
is god mode without u ap okay, any subject? Okay, and Ashton

1053
01:22:30.319 --> 01:22:34.159
keep digging. I know that you're
right, and I thank you very much

1054
01:22:34.199 --> 01:22:39.159
for your video because your video when
it was brought to my attention, proue

1055
01:22:39.560 --> 01:22:44.800
dynamic behaviorism is correct. So thank
you. Yeah, no need to thank

1056
01:22:44.880 --> 01:22:46.079
me. It's the world's videos,
to be honest with you, and I

1057
01:22:46.119 --> 01:22:50.560
hope that those videos end up bringing
a greater truth and understanding of science to

1058
01:22:50.720 --> 01:22:57.760
the entire world. That's really my
only objective out here is well, I'm

1059
01:22:57.840 --> 01:23:00.680
free. Anybody wants to ask me
questions, just send me down on X

1060
01:23:00.760 --> 01:23:04.199
or Twitter or whatever is you want
to. I jump into rooms often and

1061
01:23:04.279 --> 01:23:09.840
answer people's questions as well, so
I'm always accessible. And like I say,

1062
01:23:09.920 --> 01:23:15.039
it's been a long long time shouting
at doors. But yeah, is

1063
01:23:15.079 --> 01:23:18.159
that the best way to find you? On Twitter? Yes, it really

1064
01:23:18.239 --> 01:23:21.439
is. I don't. I don't
use any other form of social media.

1065
01:23:21.600 --> 01:23:25.640
I think a few people created to
see things for me, but I never

1066
01:23:25.800 --> 01:23:30.000
visit them at all. I'm usually
on here because majority of all my colleagues

1067
01:23:30.039 --> 01:23:32.359
and so on, we we we, you know, we communicate with this.

1068
01:23:33.119 --> 01:23:38.279
Can you be found at roy D
Herbert on Twitter, So go ahead

1069
01:23:38.319 --> 01:23:42.520
and give roy a follow out there. He's got several thousand followers already,

1070
01:23:42.680 --> 01:23:45.399
and as he mentioned, he's got
some pretty prominent physicists who follow him as

1071
01:23:45.399 --> 01:23:47.680
well. So if you want to
be on the cutting edge of science,

1072
01:23:48.079 --> 01:23:51.560
this is the man to follow right
here. Okay, guys, well,

1073
01:23:51.640 --> 01:23:56.039
we're going to go ahead and close
down Hard Shrews Number five. Thank you

1074
01:23:56.079 --> 01:23:59.359
all for watching today. We appreciate
it, and thank you Roydy Herbert very

1075
01:23:59.439 --> 01:24:03.079
much, the physicists for being here
and teaching us about time dilation and dilation theory.