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Win your old career gives you lemons
throwing some ice, mix in some vodka

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and call it a podcast from a
Mac of All Trade studio in Fairport and

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driven by Victor Chrysler Dots Ju Bram. It's Bilified the Bill Moran Podcast.

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Well, hello and welcome. Thanks
for getting your pot on, Thanks for

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telling a friend. That's how we
spread the word. PGA week in Rochester.

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Everybody's out there. Look what's trending
in sports on Twitter's top one baby

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Rochester. There you go, there
we go. Yep. I see people

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posting, Hey, I don't want
to say anything, but looks like so

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and so staying next to me,
the rent of the house, good luck,

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hope he makes the cut. And
I'm like taste. People don't want

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even you know what I mean,
Like, what are you doing? Why

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are you blasting this out there?
Hey? Look who's my neighbor. For

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the next couple of days, we
got all the guys that are gonna miss

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the cut. They all start on
the west side. Yeah. PGA practice

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around this morning pushed back an hour
because of frost. Really yeah, supposed

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to start at seven and they pushed
it back to eight because of frost.

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It was no frost this morning.
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to work. Well, out there
where it's the grass, it's low cut,

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probably a little bit of probably it
probably didn't have a slick little bit

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of ice. And it's open right, so you're it's not trees. There's

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no buildings around holding some heat.
The cars aren't driving by, you know

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what I mean. Yeah, So
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that make us look bad in a
way that there's frost here in May?

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No? No, no, no
no. I was more disappointed that John

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Daly pulled out of the tournament.
Must be we don't have Hooters in town

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anymore? Oh, John Daily,
John Daly? I think the last time

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didn't he come from the Senior PGA. Yeah, rolls up in his RV

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and usually wherever there's a Hooters,
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For well, there was no Hooters, so he went over to the Pitchford

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Pub and did all kinds of cooking. He did like a tequila and taco

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night or something. Was that the
Ryder Cup? No, that was that

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was like Senior PGA. Last time
they were here, The Ryder Cup.

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That was ninety five. I'll never
forget. I went and picked up We

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used him to pick up some English
um a journalist, okay, and I

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brought him on the ship. We
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how they matter or anything like that. And all he got, all he

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did on the air was bitch about
my driving. He's like the all Americans

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drive like that. Do you,
um, do you have any interest in

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the PGI not at all, no
interest whatsoever. My mom was a huge

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Tiger fan. She used to watch
She used to watch golf all the time.

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So that was the only time I
ever saw him. Well, then,

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I think it's very appropriate with you
to play PGA player or a porn

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star. Hell yeah, all right, I'll throw you out a name,

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all right, and then you tell
me is this person based on their name

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alone? Yes, a PGA player
who maybe in town for the PGA Championship.

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Gonna have a lot of base.
You're gonna do some fucking nibas fan.

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That's what I always played in the
background. I should have put up

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that one. Uh or corn Star. Here we go, John Ram corn

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Star incorrect. I'm sorry. John
Ram is the favorite to win the PGA

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champion number the world Spanish professional golfer. He was the number one golfer in

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the world amateur ranking for a then
record sixty weeks when he was an amateur.

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Do you say amateur or amateur?
I always an amateur. I always

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hear these assholes going. He was
an amateur uh and later became the world

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number one in the official World Golf
frankiees Is he still number one? Number

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one? Now? He's projected at
fifteen to two to win the championship at

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okill and one of the masters.
Good for him? Yeah, I'm rooting

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for him now. Okay. He
also goes to pound Town on a regular

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basis. Yeah, with this music
players where he rolls on a team.

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This is Mark's doorbell for my closet. All right, you ready? YEA

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Chris Strokes. Is Chris Strokes a
PGA player or a porn star? I'm

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gonna go porn star. Chris Strokes
is a porn star according to IMDb,

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boyishly handsome, it's all athletically built, goes by Chris cr i ss Strokes

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and he's also gotten by the names
of Chris Strokes, h R I S.

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Are you looking him up? Is
he Chris Strokes with an Axe,

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He's got Chris No, He's Chris
Strokes with cr Iess and then Strokes and

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on and on on. He made
his debut back in two thousand and six.

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He has since been working for various
studios and companies within the porn industry,

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and is perhaps one of the most
popular and reliable performers in the business.

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His films include Oil Overload, fifteen, Jesus, He's Franchises, I

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Tell You I Know right, Super
Whores, and Chris Strokes is Mister Anal.

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He was also number one on the
put Putt Tour in eighty six.

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All right you ready, yep?
Ryan Madison, that's golf PGA player or

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porn stars, I'm porn. He
is an actor and director. He is

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married to porn star Kelly Madison,
known for such cinemastic master bacheurs. I

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should know this ship as get my
belt. Nothing compares and bad neighbor?

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Is it all bal chicks and nothing
compares? No, See they missed,

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they missed the cow like porn on
now is fucking boring? What are you

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talking about? Fucking seventies and eighties
porn was awesome? Why just a story?

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There was more of a story to
it. It was actually like everybody

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was a fucking pizza guy. No, not necessary. Love to know.

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Can you write the story of go
get my belt right now? Oh?

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I could write a good I could
write a good porn. Well you guys,

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well, you guys know that hang
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you write out of porn for the
next time you're in? Yes, and

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like make it though with different voices. So there's like, you know,

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actor one, actor two, we
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but somebody's gonna have to be the
lady. Should I bring somebody in?

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No, one of us could be
the Lady's gonna make it funny for

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Danny all. Are you ready?
Jason Day PGA player or porn star PGA,

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Yes, you are correct. An
Australian professional golfer plays on the PGA

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Tour. He most notably won the
Championship PG Championship as being played here this

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week at Okill in twenty fifteen one
yesterday he is h Yeah, he did

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last week. He is a former
world number one in the golf ranking and

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I believe he is twenty to one
odds to win at Okill. I think

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don't quote me on that he's got
Hurt Ramone Nomar PGA player. I'm a

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Venezuelan born Spanish pornographic actor. He
started his pornographic career rout the gage of

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twenty three. He has worked with
pornographic film producers, Reality Kings, Braziers

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and New Sensations. Well, at
least you know I'm not a pornell guy.

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What are you talking about. I
don't watch PARNELM. Well that's true,

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that is true. But here's something
I didn't know, and I didn't

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know till I looked up Ramone Nomar. We've all heard of the cons Film

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Festival. Did you know there's a
cons Erotic film Festival? I think that's

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the one they call Cans. Is
that like the Porto Awards? He used

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to have no avin. Porto Awards
are real, but he I had no

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idea that there was the Cans Erotic
Film Festival. In nineteen ninety eight,

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he won the Hot Duar Award for
Best Newcomer Hot What did It's Like?

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Hot? It's d apostrophe O r
O such a Dwarf. In nineteen ninety

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nine, he returned to CONS to
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Of Hustler. His films were Brunette
and Bondage, Real Wife Stories,

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and he won the twenty fifteen AVN
Award for Best Group Sex Scene in Gangbang

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Me, and in twenty fifteen he
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fifteen. Wasn't that around the time
Slayton was doing the AVMs? Probably?

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Yeah, yeah, Justin Thomas,
this will be our final one PGA golfer.

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I'm gonna go up. He's a
heavy favorite for the tournament to see.

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Twenty seventeen, Thomas experienced a break
out year, winning five PGA Tour

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events and the FedEx Cup Championship.
He has won two major golf championships,

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winning the PGA Championship in seventeen and
twenty two. In May twenty eighteen,

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he became the twenty first player to
top the Official Golf World Ranking, and

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he is sixteen to one odds.
I think he's good buddies with Tiger too.

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He's always the one screw with Tigers
kid when they do those parents and

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their father's son tournaments. Now,
I was trying to think, is it

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possible for you to look this up
while we're doing this? I don't know

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there huh is it pornographic? Well, yeah, all right, um,

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oh, I don't want to infect
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like, well, I don't know
if we should actually be looking up on

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the Wi Fi year or not.
Oh wait, wait, we just got

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a special report in yeah, no
gender bathrooms, individual galley style free for

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all at the PGA from doctor Greg
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All right, very good, and
it was incredible people incredible, amazing people

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watching. Oh, I'm sure.
And he sent us a taste. Oh,

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I'm sure. I can't wait to
see the taste. I can't wait.

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It's gonna look like the covered Sports
Illustrated. I'll just leave that right

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there for now. If you know, you know, if you don't,

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you'll find out a little while on
the podcast. Sorry I interrupted you.

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What do you mean to look up? Uh? What were like some of

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the spoof Tiger Woods parody porn?
There had to be because I was trying

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to think, you know, we
got the PGA here and some of these

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guys like I'll tell you what if
you quiz me and you said ramone nomar,

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I'm going he's probably on the Lift
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I don't know. I wouldn't have
no idea, and that's what sort

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of made it fun. Uh.
And then I learned about the the Erotic

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cons Film Festival or would we like
to say cans Uh. The first thing

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that came up was horn Start opens
up about her amazing sex with Tiger Who.

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Yeah, but I thought there was
like Tiger Woods. I know you're

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trying to see, like, there's
the Brady Bunch. Yeah, they have

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a Brady Munch jacket girls like something
like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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something like that Brady Bunch parody where
you know, Marsha and Gregor fucking

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and you know how that stuffs.
There was Oh yeah there's one. Oh

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I didn't know it. Oh yeah, there's one where they get it on

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with the Partridge family. Who got
which one of the Brady kids got stuck

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with? Oh that's so funny.
That's not funny, but it's funny.

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It is funny. But I was
trying to see if they ever filmed a

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porn on a golf course, and
the only thing I could find was in

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England on a on like a put
putt course, they filmed the porn and

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they just finished up before people started
coming to play. Wow, Lewis's birthday

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party is going to be a twelve
thirty and they have any blue balls on

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that put pot course that you said
you thought seventies and eighties porn was better,

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Oh yeah, and why I just
think it's I just think the sex.

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I think the sex is better.
The sex was better, I think.

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So, Okay, I don't mind
the bush, I don't care.

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Okay, but well, I you
think I was more passionate. This is

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almost more robotic. It's like more
like there is this porn in it's in

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its softcore porn. It's not hard. I guess that Tigers would. Tigers

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would, Yeah, I mean that's
what I was thinking, Like, there's

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got to be a couple. I
couldn't. I know there was, I

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couldn't. I forgot to look him
up, but like Tigers would or or

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Busted Glass or the Back nine or
whole nineteen, Tiger's Whole nineteen. I

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don't know. Uh So, back
in the seventies and eighties, there was

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a guy named Harry Reims. Yeah, so I'm talking about he was in

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one of the best pornos I've ever
seen. Harry Reims is It's called still

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stand by one second, go back
to Harry Reims because I could tell.

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Uh, Let's see Tiger plays eighteen
hos Clappy Gilmore, Shanks and Skanks Baby

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Got Back nine the Legend of Shagger
Vans eighteen holes by J C. Two

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Girls, one FedEx cup and eight
Isn't enough. Oh and and Caddy Shag,

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Caddy Shag. I did see that. Uh So Harry Reims retired from

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Porne and became a born again Christian. Yes, and he lived in Park

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City, Utah, where I happened
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Tell me you, madam, I
did not mean Harry Reems, but he

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kept his he like kept his porn
name. He would is a realtor and

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it was Harry f Reeves reality.
Do you know he got in Greece he

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died. No, Yeah, in
the movie Greece The Coach, The Coach,

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they originally Harry Reems. They got
the power and they decided not to

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put him in because he was associated
with porn. Yeah, he would have

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greed in that power. Anyways.
His best movie is called Butterflies. It's

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more a porn guy. It's one
of but this is Swedish porn. It's

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like some of the best sex scenes
I've ever been the Swedish always overdubbed.

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I'm telling you what. You looked
this up. I'm gonna tell you what.

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This is a good porn. You're
gonna understand why. I like it

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too. I remember buddy of mine
had the Sweedish porn and it was all

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I remember laughing at Starry because all
it was it was oh oh yeah,

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it was like it was a film
an Ikea. I don't know. I

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mean, all the girls, all
the you know girls are Swedish, but

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Harry reams and no Americans. So
it was like and the fucking dudes the

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man. Yeah, seriously, Yeah, I was like, man, but

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I'm telling you there's a there's a
sex scene and it's it's the best sex

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scene I've I've ever seen. I
don't care if this is nineteen seventy five.

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It's called butterflies. It's called butterflies. Okay, go to you porn.

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No, go to Yeah, I
don't want to go to your porn.

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I'm just gonna I'm just gonna type
in butterflies and let's see what happens.

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won't care for on that laptop.
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E E MS Butterflies nineteen seventy five. You're right, Yes, it's called

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Butterfly. Oh sorry, it's okay, Yeah, Harry reems Mark spits in

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that one too well. Casting Oh
yeah, this is nineteen seventy five.

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Man, I'm gonna tell you what
if you you guys have to watch this

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and you guys will understand what I'm
talking about. There is like a lot

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of movies from the seventies where it
used to be like a hard ar Now

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it's just like a soft No,
this is this is soft coren porn.

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Yeah, okay, how did you
see it? Everybody? There was a

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I used to live over in Henrietta, over in Brighton, and there was

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a video store over where the Bowling
Yelly used to be over on uh Jefferson

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Road. So I used to go
in there, and I always wanted porn

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on that met there was a story, the whole Hebrew video story. So

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I found this and I was like, it was my, it was my.

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It was awesome. And then the
place closed I never knew what happened

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to that movie. So when porn
one came out on uh, I was

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in a computer. I found it. Yeah, I watched it quite often.

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What is this? Is there a
story? There is a story?

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Yeah, he is a womanizer?
Okay, okay, yeah, and ok

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all right, all right, yeah, this is you're gonna understand a little

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bit of why like this movie.
Okay, is it two dicks up?

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Three dicks up? No? How
do you? How do you review it?

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Did? So he meets this girl
out out and out and about,

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and she's like, she left her
home, she left her hometown. She

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wanted to go to the big city. So, um, she's a blond.

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You know, her body's a natural
but it's a natural body. This

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fake shit? Did I hate?
Yeah? So seventies. He brings her

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home and he has a girlfriend.
Oh and he fucks sir. Well,

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the girlfriend is home. Does she
watch her participant? She ends up going

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to know, she doesn't participate.
She goes and gets off watching it.

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And so this is why you like
it. This is why, this is

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how it all started. At well, something that he made from Mark for

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his walls. Yeah, Harry had
that. Harry had that amazing mustache.

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Get the poster for your wall man. That was you know, Burt Reynolds

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thing going back then, and you
know, oh, come on, all

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right, we'll take him over at
last. A while back, a couple

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of weeks back, we had a
conversation about Juneteenth when you interrupted a parade

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and you are accosted by somebody.
I'm gonna call it accosted because I listened

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again, So you agree with you
you were accosted. Yes, I know.

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Danny agreed with me so well.
While I was trying to take it

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from the standpoint of we were playing
Devil's because I don't know about Devil's advocate

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as much as trying to be somewhat
empathetic to something that I don't know that

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we fully appreciate or understand being who
we are. Does that make sense?

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It's a don't I know, it's
all horse shit because I didn't know the

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pread I got you. So there
was a guy who's listening and he used

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to be a fan of the break
room. His name's EJ. And EJ

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is just a guy. He's a
black guy. He lives in Wayne County.

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But he's a guy that I always
found I like the way he he

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thinks, and he reads a lot
of stuff. And he said he wanted

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to talk, and I called you
first to make sure that we weren't like,

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I don't like to sabotage anybody.
You can burp in the microphone,

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it doesn't matter, come out.
And uh so, so he's gonna come

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on next and we're gonna play back. I want to play back, um

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you talking about the parade and not
knowing, and then a little bit of

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the video audio and then we'll talk
to each Okay, that's all right?

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It's not a special this month.
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and tell me what it was.
The bread is phenomenal and there how much

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meat was? How much meat was
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That was a fantastic sandwich. And
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I'm a huge fan of the homemade
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homemade onion rings. No, hold, why do you hold out? Hold

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on? There's because a lot of
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Do you remember LDR Charpet. I remember

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the name. Yeah, yeah,
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known for the homemade on your rings
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started doing a bTB and it's the
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great. Yeah, everything there,
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like, and I know a lot
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The food is phenomenal. Yeah,
I am really impressed by everything I've had

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there. Pizzas are great, but
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special for the month of May,
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and cream and lime juice top with
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right. It's like, man,
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your podcast. Smiff this, Sniff
this. So Mark On not that long

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ago, and he explained to us
something that happened when he was working at

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the liquor store in the city.
And this is the story that Mark told

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us. I an incident happened to
me a couple of years ago when I

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was going to work at Red Front. Yeah. Um, it was the

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June. It was the Juneteenth Parade, and the parade wasn't wasn't supported by

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the city, so they did it
them So they did it themselves, and

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they got bikers and stuff like that. Well, I was driving up Andrew

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Street to go to work and I
went through the parade. I guess,

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I don't know, but I don't. I don't know what I did.

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I still don't know what I did. This guy, to this very date

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says I disrespected. I don't know
how I didn't. So I park,

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can I go across the street and
I'm going and I had these three guys

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come up to me and they got
a camera. Well, first of all,

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I don't know who they are.
I don't know what's going on.

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What I did, all right?
Then the videos still around. They posted

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the video. We find it.
I got it on my phone. Can

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we play, absolutely, you can
play. I'd like to play that video.

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And I come off stupid, which
is fine, Well that's not all

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that different line castro. Come on, I didn't know what Juneteenth was,

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okay, all right, So he
didn't know what Juneteenth was, which I

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thought it was very honest. No, I thought it was a very honest

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thing to say. It's okay.
I knew. I mean, I was

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educated. I mean I knew what
was going on. But you know,

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when you have three guys standing there
with a cell phone in your face,

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you kind of you know, all
right now, Um, EJ's on the

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line in EJ is uh as we
said, he's a black man who lives

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out in Wayne County. But I
always like the way he thinks. We've

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had conversations in the past when I
was part of the break room, and

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I've always been a big fan EJ. Do you mind if I play one

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more piece of audio, and that
would be the camera the guy filming Mark

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absolutely go ahead, all right,
here's the guy that came up to Mark

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with the camera. Can go anywhere. Here we go. I'm getting out

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of my car. Marks, give
it a little narration there. No hello,

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sir, remember me? Remember me? Just a second ago you out

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a barber in the trophy. You
have something to say. Now you should

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be celing. You know what today
is. Guess what I know where you're

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going. We can't just have a
little conversation. Sure it is June teeth.

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You are very rude. Thank you. Celebrate June teeth. Be a

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good white person, good white person, celebrate can celebrate j You know what

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June teeth is? Oh yeah,
what is your teeth? Why? What

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does that mean? Because if I
fucking pisses me off every time, no

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like generically could be in what is
June te um? Where you? June

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teenth is with black folks, deerate
white folks like you unknowingly, quicknowingly,

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littentionally and on your birth were rush. Okay, if you understand, we

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don't try to give me a house. I'll get yourself. Kathy Jones,

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Kate spread it on the other white
people, all right, so e j

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yeah, uh, let me let
me start here, which isn't probably where

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you think it may start. M
but June teenth. Yeah, it has

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been celebrated informally, I think since
eighteen sixty five. Yeah, I believe

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sixty six technically, okay, okay. And then I believe that the State

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of Texas in the late seventies or
early eighties made it a state holiday observed

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it. They were the first ones
to actually observe it as a as a

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holiday. But I will tell you
that I don't remember. I don't know.

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Did you go to public school,
yes, did you remember learning about

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Juneteenth? Oh? God, no, no, no, no, no,

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no, okay. So that's where
like I think that one bad that

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we didn't write because it is certainly
something that should be celebrated, and yet

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at the same time, I don't
know that we can. I mean,

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I like to think that ignorance really
isn't an excuse, But I feel like

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Mark didn't know, and there was
no formal marking for the parade, and

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that gentleman did get kind of aggressive. All of that seems correct, Okay,

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all right, but what would you
say to people? What would you

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say? Because I think I thought, I don't want to put words in

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your mouth. Mark, But One
of the things that bothered Mark was that

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that guy was saying, like,
go tell the other white people. And

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if we said that, I guess, I guess EJ. If it was

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the opposite, if it was me
and two other guys surrounding a black man

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with a camera, I think that
was more would be more of an issue

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than those three surrounding me with a
camera phone and humiliating me. I guess

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that's that's my issue. You know, Um, I worked on Clinton Avenue

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for three years. You know that
that guy's that guy, he's a lawyer.

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He doesn't go on Clinton Avenue.
I spent more time on Clinton Avenue

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than he as. So it was
like I felt like I was targeted because

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I was a white guy. So, um, your name is Mark.

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Okay, yeah, so Mark,
I want to actually start a little bit

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off topic really quickly. You mentioned
that you had been robbed some time ago.

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I was robbed a month ago at
the liquor Star that I ran.

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Okay, so this is this happened
to you presently? It happened to you,

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um several years after ja yeah yeah, okay, yea. So my

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first question to you one is have
you sought any counseling on that trauma.

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Yes, I have a good,
good good for you. See. Now

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it's funny. It's funny, say
EJ. Because I don't know if you

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I think I said this on the
air. It's like to this guy that

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did it, it was no big
deal to me. It's carried on for

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two years, you know what I
mean? Oh no, he's asking you

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about the You're asking about the robbert
right, the robbery. Yeah, oh

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yeah, oh yeah, the robbery. Um, I can't even work and

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I want to go work in an
other liquor store part time, and I

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couldn't. I couldn't even do that. And so yeah, the reason I

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want to start there is because one
of the things that that jumped out at

405
00:29:47,799 --> 00:29:52,519
me when I was re listening to
the segment um apart from the show today,

406
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:59,160
was you are clearly going through some
PTS D type of actions, and

407
00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:06,400
the speech and the speaking that you
demonstrated in that moment was a person who

408
00:30:06,519 --> 00:30:11,240
was dealing with being traumatized by something
not only presently you know it happened to

409
00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:17,640
you a month ago, but then
reliving constantly what happened to you a couple

410
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:23,759
of years ago. So you basically
were reflecting on a humiliating circumstance through the

411
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:29,759
lens of present day trauma. Do
you understand okay, right, all right,

412
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,680
all right, that seems pretty deep, But I got it, He's

413
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:38,680
got all right, right, Okay, yep. So I want to get

414
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:45,599
that out the way because oftentimes I
think when we talk about situations and circumstances,

415
00:30:47,119 --> 00:30:51,200
we try to act as if these
things occur in a vacuum. And

416
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:57,519
Bill said something very important that day
when you all were discussing this. He

417
00:30:57,759 --> 00:31:03,480
said, you do not know what
was going through that brother's mind when he

418
00:31:03,599 --> 00:31:10,720
approached you. Now, that does
not give him the excuse to have approached

419
00:31:10,759 --> 00:31:14,880
you in such a way. But
I will say this. There is a

420
00:31:15,039 --> 00:31:19,279
elder in the black community now an
ancestor for us, meaning she has passed

421
00:31:19,319 --> 00:31:25,799
away. She used to constantly state
that for Black Americans, we did not

422
00:31:26,079 --> 00:31:33,119
qualify for mental health, meaning our
mental state was such, was in such

423
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:38,759
a degree degraded because of what we
constantly went through um with racism and other

424
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:45,680
aspects of this society, we did
not typically have good mental health. Right.

425
00:31:45,839 --> 00:31:49,599
Well, I think that you had
a trauma on a whole race of

426
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,839
people that, honest to God,
could take five hundred years to work out.

427
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,559
Yeah, I mean, and you
you are beyond right. There's some

428
00:32:02,279 --> 00:32:08,200
recent science over the last about thirty
or forty years that prove you absolutely right.

429
00:32:08,359 --> 00:32:12,759
Yeah. I remember reading something that's
where I came up with something to

430
00:32:12,839 --> 00:32:15,079
that effect of you know, when
you think about it, it is the

431
00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:19,240
it is the trauma, but you
can also see you know, I don't

432
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,480
I am going to jump in here, and I don't mean to be rude,

433
00:32:22,119 --> 00:32:23,799
but when you when you we play
the camera piece right, and I

434
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:30,240
hear that again, And what sticks
out of my mind, EJ is that,

435
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:36,079
first of all, nobody of any
I don't care what shade you are,

436
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,960
likes to be talked to, almost
talked down to, right or in

437
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:46,400
a humiliating way. And when you're
trying to bring something that some people want

438
00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:51,720
to dismiss or may not know about, or may even say you're making that

439
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,519
up, June teeth, come on, you're making that up. You can

440
00:32:54,559 --> 00:32:58,799
see where people would say that it's
they're not, but that you could see

441
00:32:58,839 --> 00:33:02,839
it. And it makes me think
back to doctor King and now doctor King

442
00:33:04,039 --> 00:33:09,599
always seemed to just be very firm, but very cordial in his language.

443
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:14,920
I don't. Maybe I'm using the
wrong I had a very calm way that

444
00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:16,279
I feel like if the guy came
with him and goes, hey, we

445
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,640
were trying to have something here.
I'm not sure if you're familiar with it,

446
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,400
what Juneteenth is, it's the Emancipation
Day, and just told you.

447
00:33:22,839 --> 00:33:23,880
I think it would have been like, oh my god, I'm so sorry

448
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:30,559
I would ever have done that.
And instead you've got somebody who he can't

449
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:35,559
even keep the headphones out of get
so mad he got to see him nor

450
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,720
headphones off. Mark. I will, I will. I want to say

451
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:50,359
also that for you in that moment, I think you were wronged, But

452
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:58,680
so I think he was wronged.
I think there was a um there.

453
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,119
There possibly could have been a better
way of approaching that situation. However,

454
00:34:02,359 --> 00:34:07,599
I will also say this, Mark, I'm imagining you're from the area.

455
00:34:07,599 --> 00:34:12,159
Yeah, Mark, grew up around
here, right, Yeah? Okay,

456
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,360
So are you familiar with any people
who, let's say, have white colored

457
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:22,519
skin, who might have an attitude
with a group of black people on the

458
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:30,320
street celebrating something that is not ordained
by the city government. Oh? Absolutely,

459
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:37,199
Okay, So do you possibly think
maybe that whereas you are wronged.

460
00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:44,360
You may have been a target because
other people who they might have done the

461
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,800
same thing too, who had disrespected
them, had sped off. Yeah,

462
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:54,519
oh absolutely, yeah yeah yeah.
So you would like, are there an

463
00:34:54,559 --> 00:35:00,840
apology or something that makes this right? Well, I under I ran into

464
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:01,960
this guy. I don't know if
you heard that story. I mean,

465
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:06,159
I know who the guy is,
now I did you probably know, I

466
00:35:06,559 --> 00:35:08,320
don't know. You might know who
he is. I do not know who

467
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,519
you Okay, So what happened when
you ran into him? Just for he

468
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,880
was? Um? They were doing
a food drive out out in front of

469
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,039
my store, and so I went
outside and I went, only shit.

470
00:35:21,119 --> 00:35:22,679
I went up to him. I
shook his hand. Yeah that's what's going

471
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,880
on. And he goes this and
he goes and he goes, oh we're

472
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,360
okay. Here I go absolutely,
I go shook my hand this time,

473
00:35:30,559 --> 00:35:31,400
and he looks at me. He
didn't know what I was talking about.

474
00:35:31,519 --> 00:35:36,639
He had. I don't think he
remembers that incident. Well he may not.

475
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,280
He may not, and he may
not have. You know what,

476
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:43,119
you might have just been forgive me, but just a white face man.

477
00:35:43,519 --> 00:35:45,760
And so EJ's point, he might
have been, you know, shit upon

478
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:51,880
in a way by some white people. Absolutely, and you just became the

479
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,239
white face. He didn't know.
I worked at the liquor store. E

480
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:59,719
G. I spent three years of
my life on Clinton Avenue and I and

481
00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:01,599
I love that job. I wish
it didn't end the way it did.

482
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,440
I love the job, I love
the people, I love that neighborhood,

483
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,039
and I just you know what I
mean. He didn't know who he was

484
00:36:08,119 --> 00:36:12,960
talking to. Like I said,
I probably spent more time on Clinton Avenue

485
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,079
than this kid ever has. Yeah, you know I would say to you,

486
00:36:15,519 --> 00:36:20,000
I would say, be very careful
with that because there are there are

487
00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:23,840
places in Rochester. I bet you
he could go and have spent more time

488
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:29,199
in than you had. Sure.
Now I want to also bring up the

489
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,360
idea of him not shaking your hand, because this was in twenty twenty one.

490
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,920
If I remember what I said,
you and I are on the same

491
00:36:36,079 --> 00:36:38,880
now. But you did you hear
what he said my dirty hand? YEA?

492
00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:44,519
Hang on again, I hang on. I want to I want to

493
00:36:44,679 --> 00:36:49,320
reinforce one thing to you when it
comes to what was happening with COVID,

494
00:36:49,679 --> 00:37:00,599
specifically in the black community. Yeah, he had a disproportionate this proportionate number

495
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:07,159
of people on the front line.
Therefore, a lot more black folks were

496
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:12,719
catching the disease, major sickness,
major death. There was a story that

497
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,559
came down. It was out of
the Midwest, and this was not a

498
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:21,840
lone story. I run multiple of
these, but this one jumps out in

499
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:27,599
a week's time. This woman lost
her husband, her four children, and

500
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:34,039
her mother. Jesus. So,
yes, when he said your dirty hand,

501
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:38,840
that is what I there's not a
better way to see that. There

502
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:45,360
is absolutely no, there's three hundred
there is absolutely three hundred fetter ways to

503
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,599
say that. But you know something, at that moment, he didn't say

504
00:37:47,679 --> 00:37:53,239
all any of those three hundred.
No, at least dirty pot of my

505
00:37:53,360 --> 00:38:02,400
face. Now, Mark, you
do not strike me as a bad guy.

506
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:06,639
He's not. No, I'm I'm
okay, I'm no, I'm not

507
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:12,320
at all. So let me help
you. Soft. I don't mean that

508
00:38:12,639 --> 00:38:21,960
he's just a soft He's just a
sweet guy to because the um. But

509
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:27,079
But my thing is, like I
always think that Mark, Mark genuinely Yeah,

510
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,519
he can't be mean. He can
try. He can say something and

511
00:38:30,559 --> 00:38:34,280
he goes, I'm sorry, I
didn't mean that. That's Mark, you

512
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:38,000
just can't Mark. Well, then
Mark, you learned. You learned a

513
00:38:38,159 --> 00:38:43,239
very important lesson with this, my
man, people have bad days, and

514
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:49,360
oftentimes in the hood, black folks
aren't allowed to have bad days. You

515
00:38:49,639 --> 00:38:53,360
you mentioned something in the original Um
conversation. You said, I wasn't sure

516
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,320
if I was going to get stabbed
or shot. I mean that kind of

517
00:38:55,360 --> 00:39:00,880
a neighborhood, O, that kind
of a neighborhood, That kind of a

518
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:07,199
neighborhood, My brother, I could
be in a white community as a black

519
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,039
man and have somebody pull a gun
out on me and shoot me dead.

520
00:39:10,119 --> 00:39:14,480
I lived in Wayne County. I
grew up in a place called Lions in

521
00:39:14,599 --> 00:39:19,920
the late nineties. In the late
nineties, there were three murders that occurred

522
00:39:20,119 --> 00:39:23,440
between white kids. One guy stabbed
another guy over a girl, and then

523
00:39:23,519 --> 00:39:28,000
a year and a half later,
the two girls who the fight was originally

524
00:39:28,039 --> 00:39:31,079
about, one of the girls killed
the other one by crashing their car into

525
00:39:31,159 --> 00:39:36,760
it. So I understand where you're
coming from with the idea. Man,

526
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:45,119
No, three guys, three guys
in the neighborhood is rough came in surrounding

527
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,559
me. I didn't know who they
were. And you're right now, let

528
00:39:47,679 --> 00:39:52,920
me tell you a quick other story
about me. In two seventeen, early

529
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:59,639
twenty seventeen, after Trump was sworn
in as president, I was walking.

530
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,599
I now live in Auburn, New
York. I no longer live in Wayne

531
00:40:01,599 --> 00:40:08,400
County. But I was right.
Actually I'm not that far from the prison.

532
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:13,360
It's funny, but so I was
walking to one of them, one

533
00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:20,000
of the local restaurants, and three
literally not making this up, three white

534
00:40:20,039 --> 00:40:23,920
guys. I was on my way, walking towards an intersection, and these

535
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:29,239
three white guys were walking towards the
same intersection. I could see them.

536
00:40:29,639 --> 00:40:31,760
At first, I couldn't hear them. Then I could hear them, and

537
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:37,320
the things they were saying, let's
just say they were very suggestive. I

538
00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:42,880
knew what they were talking about.
I passed them. They started following me.

539
00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:46,840
Now, thankfully, I was on
my way to a very lit area.

540
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:52,920
They started calling out some names.
I'm going to imagine you could picture

541
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:57,280
or you could guess at least one
of those names. They called me that

542
00:40:57,559 --> 00:41:01,440
name several times. Something I'm called
the de liquor store everyday. Racial names,

543
00:41:02,119 --> 00:41:07,639
yeah, I don't, but I'm
just what he's going in and easy

544
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:10,920
disrespect, and I hate and I
hate that that would even happen you,

545
00:41:12,039 --> 00:41:15,480
that someone would even speak to you
that way, because I have I just

546
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,119
I look at either a good person
is a good person or a fucking asshole

547
00:41:20,119 --> 00:41:23,039
as a fucking asshole. So my
whole point is that pisses me off too.

548
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,079
But when I worked at the liquor
store, you know what I mean?

549
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,000
You know how many names I was
called on a daily bassis because I

550
00:41:30,039 --> 00:41:34,840
wouldn't. I wouldn't give him a
because I couldn't. I'm fund him a

551
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:37,320
quarter because yeah, but hang on
a second. Here here to me,

552
00:41:37,519 --> 00:41:42,039
here's the fundamental difference. You you're
taking it as a very personal thing.

553
00:41:42,159 --> 00:41:45,920
I am not. I'm no,
no, I should you should, right,

554
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,039
because it's you, and they're saying
it to you so that I can

555
00:41:49,159 --> 00:41:52,519
understand. Honestly, I'm not not
well when I was robbed, but right,

556
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:57,960
But on the other side, that
you were in a store they wanted

557
00:41:58,039 --> 00:42:00,639
something. There was almost a trigger. This guy I was walking on the

558
00:42:00,679 --> 00:42:04,480
street. He just happened to be
a different shade of skinning. But I

559
00:42:04,639 --> 00:42:07,360
saw that all the time in Clinton, people would walk down the street.

560
00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:10,400
Jesus, they freaking uh, we're
talking shit to them. Two Amish guys

561
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,599
were walking up Clinton Avenue. You
shouldn't heard the ship that was spen inside

562
00:42:14,639 --> 00:42:17,239
to that, but they looked funny. Yeah. But but but some of

563
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:22,960
the stuff I was talking, some
of the stuff I came together I heard

564
00:42:22,159 --> 00:42:27,199
with white people with what I'm just
saying, with white people walking down the

565
00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:34,480
street, a kid yelling and saying
some racial things. But we gotta keep

566
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,079
button walking. Well yeah, and
and and so did the black people.

567
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:43,639
For even now, right, most
people would probably keep walking. They would

568
00:42:43,679 --> 00:42:47,800
probably keep walking. Can I can
I ask you a question? Because um,

569
00:42:51,079 --> 00:42:54,719
I feel like a lot of this
has been mounting for a while for

570
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,800
you, Mark, Well, I
did spend I did spend three I did

571
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,760
spend three years in a you know, liquor store. So maybe, but

572
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,000
still, I feel like a lot
of this has been mounting. So here's

573
00:43:06,039 --> 00:43:10,320
the thing, um, how could
how could this be healed? For you?

574
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,960
I want that guy on the air, Okay, I do. Oh,

575
00:43:16,039 --> 00:43:17,920
I would love to get it.
But the thing is is that and

576
00:43:19,199 --> 00:43:20,599
I know how to get a hold
of him, I don't want to be

577
00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:22,159
the one to get a hold of
him, though. All right, we'll

578
00:43:22,159 --> 00:43:25,000
give me to them, bro,
So wait a minute. So I asked

579
00:43:25,039 --> 00:43:30,199
you, I asked you, how
could this be healed? Your answer is

580
00:43:31,639 --> 00:43:35,880
he wants to have a confrontation.
He wants a confrontation with I don't want

581
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,960
a confrontation. Well, what the
hell do you want to? I want

582
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:43,800
to know what he wants, not
to remember that's the problem because he's will.

583
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,039
But that's a confrontation. When you're
asking somebody, what, what,

584
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:51,480
why did you do this? It's
a confrontation discussion. I don't want confrontation

585
00:43:51,679 --> 00:43:57,159
and j hiving confrontation right now?
Well okay, but well conflict right and

586
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,480
it would turn confrontational because he's the
guy that at you and I know you.

587
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:06,679
You get all the talk since all
right, you know why didn't mean

588
00:44:06,679 --> 00:44:08,639
to come out his radio here's a
radio show. Look, I'm not the

589
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,400
one sitting in your shoes, Mark, and I'm I'm certainly not the one

590
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,960
sitting in EJ shoes right, But
the way I'm I'm seeing things. And

591
00:44:15,039 --> 00:44:19,960
I said this on the original uh, when we had the original discussion,

592
00:44:20,599 --> 00:44:25,280
that there that the white privilege.
If someone called me honkey or whatever or

593
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,360
called me some racial name about my
skin, marshmall, I don't know what

594
00:44:29,559 --> 00:44:31,320
I don't know what it would be. I think I would probably burst out

595
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:37,159
laughing. It doesn't affect me in
any way. But when you use the

596
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:45,000
term, when you use the term
you know what I'm saying like or polar

597
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:46,800
bear or whatever. Do you know
what I'm saying like? It doesn't It

598
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:52,239
doesn't have any real effect on me
my life. But first of all,

599
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,719
I'm mold, I've already lived.
I'm not I'm not trying to get a

600
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:59,239
job. But this is where if
you look a certain way, uh,

601
00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:04,880
you know, the names that he
was called have such hate behind them.

602
00:45:05,159 --> 00:45:07,400
The one that EJ's referring to,
because I was gonna go, it's like

603
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,679
winning the Pooh with Tigger. It's
not right, But that has such hate

604
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:17,280
henty that I mean, it sounds
cartoonish to me. Now. I also

605
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:21,079
didn't have it said to me probably
as often as you did, So I

606
00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:22,800
don't know if all of a sudden
now you start to get annoyed at it

607
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:28,079
very well, could you know?
But I would say that the white privilege

608
00:45:28,199 --> 00:45:31,320
part, where most people will go, wow, that's white privilege, is

609
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:37,559
bullshit. The only thing I'm saying
is that it's easier to walk through Fairport,

610
00:45:37,679 --> 00:45:39,480
New York, is a white guy
that it may be as a black

611
00:45:39,559 --> 00:45:44,960
guy because you may get a side
glance. And or in my neighborhood in

612
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,559
Pittsford when I lived there right and
all of a sudden there was a black

613
00:45:47,599 --> 00:45:51,239
industry. There was like, Hey, a black guy moved in and I'm

614
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,119
going out. How funny is it? Because it was an anomaly, it

615
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:58,199
wasn't you know. And the other
is if I get pulled over, like

616
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,159
I told you, then I I'm
I'm not being searched. I'm not having

617
00:46:01,199 --> 00:46:04,760
stuff taken out on the side of
the road. All that now I have.

618
00:46:05,559 --> 00:46:09,159
I've told the story where I left
the Windfield and I was a DJ

619
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:14,519
and I was getting on the on
ramp off of Winton to get onto four

620
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,920
ninety. I get pulled over by
the city police and some girls were at

621
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,639
the tops. It's not tops now, it's all these down there, and

622
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:27,440
they said that some guy was harassing
them. And this guy said I fit

623
00:46:27,519 --> 00:46:30,800
the description and I needed to leave
my car on the side of the road,

624
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,199
get in the back and go with
him. And I was like,

625
00:46:34,679 --> 00:46:37,199
what if I don't he goes,
then we're gonna arrestue right here. So

626
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:38,840
I got in the car and on
the way it comes across the radio.

627
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:43,639
The girls are scared. They just
want to go home. Now that's where

628
00:46:43,679 --> 00:46:45,599
I would go. I don't care. I feel like I don't know.

629
00:46:46,559 --> 00:46:50,599
I don't know what if it was
a black guy, would they have even

630
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:53,599
believed the girls then? Or they
made you go? And look, I

631
00:46:53,639 --> 00:46:57,280
don't know. That's scared the shot
out of me. I'd never been told

632
00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,320
I have to leave. I mean, that's that's a true story, but

633
00:46:59,639 --> 00:47:01,360
that I don't know what would have
happened if I were black. All I

634
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:05,360
know is this skin, and I
know that for me, for most of

635
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:14,920
my life, it's been pretty nice. Now the Mark lets and I understand

636
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:19,360
I would be if I was in
your shoes too, Mark, I think

637
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:25,280
I would be mad too, because
from your perspective, you see us not

638
00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:34,719
understanding or sympathizing with you enough,
and that it seems like where on the

639
00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:40,679
outside judging what you're going through.
This is why I started off the conversation

640
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:46,440
with the question about going to seek
help about this trauma, because frankly,

641
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:51,440
I think this stuff has been building
up within you for a long time.

642
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:57,719
And as much as you said that
you love working in the area. I

643
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,119
really don't believe that's decayed. AJ, we're going to disagree on that,

644
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:05,719
one man, But you know what
I think. Yeah, I'm good.

645
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,480
No, I'm sorry, bill Um. I'm glad that we're going to have

646
00:48:08,639 --> 00:48:14,719
to disagree with that because we can. But as a black person who has

647
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,360
had many white friends who have looked
at me to say to them, I

648
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:22,320
don't believe you're racist, or I
don't believe you have racist tendencies, or

649
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:27,519
I believe what you said there was
correct. I can tell you a lot

650
00:48:27,599 --> 00:48:32,760
of white people have blinders on when
it comes to how they interact with other

651
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:39,920
people who are not white, and
so what's happening here is not surprising to

652
00:48:40,039 --> 00:48:45,360
me. Hold on a second,
why are you shaking? Not just time?

653
00:48:45,519 --> 00:48:46,599
No, wait, here's what I
like, Here's what I'm thinking.

654
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:51,000
Let him talk. No, he's
he's he kind of came to a conclusion.

655
00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:53,960
Hang on, I don't want to
keep cutting them out. You're good,

656
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,800
You're good. I want to know
what you're shaking your head? I

657
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,440
can then how I see it?
I read front Yeah, it was on

658
00:49:00,519 --> 00:49:06,519
Clinton Avenue for fifty years. Nick
Penna owned and I saw when my high

659
00:49:06,519 --> 00:49:12,000
school to gather on the liquor store, and it's legendary on Clinton Avenue,

660
00:49:12,519 --> 00:49:15,760
and Nick's been Nick the old Man's
loved still loved there and people come in

661
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,840
and see him. When we had
the liquor store, he'd set with me

662
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:21,920
and people would come in. Now
everybody wants to talk about about you know,

663
00:49:22,159 --> 00:49:23,199
Oh, we used to go there
and we would eat this and then

664
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:30,360
stuff like that. I learned how
m I learned one of my best um

665
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:37,360
how I changed in life was I
saw another side of life. I saw

666
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:42,239
another side. I saw really really
good people who just you don't, had

667
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,280
bad luck just like I had sometimes, you know what I mean? Really

668
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,440
good people. Yeah, And I
developed a lot of relationships down there because

669
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,719
of it, you know what I
mean. And I think at certain times

670
00:49:52,199 --> 00:49:57,400
it wasn't a black white thing.
Well I EJ. Here's what I was

671
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,360
gonna say before it was. I
don't think Mark seesus is a black white

672
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,599
thing. I think Mark seesus as
he was going to work. He never

673
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:09,039
meant to insult anybody, and he's
pissed off that these guys came so hard

674
00:50:09,079 --> 00:50:13,599
at him for something he would never
do and they weren't gonna listen to him.

675
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,880
They weren't gonna take anything into consideration, and he's pissed off to this

676
00:50:17,079 --> 00:50:20,880
day. And it wouldn't matter if
those guys were blue, or if they

677
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,719
were white, or if they were
purple, or they have to be black.

678
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,880
I think that's what it is.
I do. I think with you,

679
00:50:25,079 --> 00:50:29,239
it didn't matter. And that's that's
a really good point, I really

680
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,440
do. I think you're just mad
that these guys did this and that they

681
00:50:32,519 --> 00:50:37,440
can say things like go tell your
white friends, because you would never say

682
00:50:37,519 --> 00:50:39,760
that back to them, and man
if if it were reversed, and that

683
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,400
pissed you off, right, Yeah, that's the night they happened. But

684
00:50:43,559 --> 00:50:46,519
these are the discussions that nobody had. Nobody That's why I wanted to do

685
00:50:46,599 --> 00:50:49,840
it, do you know what I
mean? Discussions I've had with people in

686
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,239
the liquor store about different things,
and we've actually had discussions like me and

687
00:50:53,679 --> 00:50:57,159
me and j are doing right now, and how you know what I mean?

688
00:50:57,639 --> 00:51:00,480
I learned so much and they learned
about me. They didn't, you

689
00:51:00,559 --> 00:51:01,719
know what I mean. There's one
guy used to community, used to come

690
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:05,280
in, the rich boy from Greece, you know what I mean. I

691
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:08,599
told him I live in a fucking
closet, I know, you know,

692
00:51:09,199 --> 00:51:12,840
so you know what I mean.
So that was always kind of the joke.

693
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:15,239
But they're, like I just said, a lot of good people do

694
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:20,519
yes, Yes, a lot of
good people and a lot just just people.

695
00:51:20,559 --> 00:51:23,079
And there's people I miss, just
people who were just living their life,

696
00:51:23,159 --> 00:51:27,599
you know. And and there was
you know, people who you know

697
00:51:28,079 --> 00:51:30,800
sometimes you know, I'll just say
it, there was you know, I

698
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:32,119
had a lot of the drug dealers
would come in, Yeah, and they

699
00:51:32,159 --> 00:51:38,239
were and it was always cool because
I respect people that would come in my

700
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:42,719
store. Yeah. If they disrespected
me, then there was an issue.

701
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,159
It wasn't a black white thing to
me. There, I got you.

702
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:49,559
It wasn't I got you. J
Does that sound fair? Uh No?

703
00:51:50,119 --> 00:51:55,559
But you know, I completely,
I completely. Look I after having so

704
00:51:55,719 --> 00:52:00,000
many of these conversations over the last
fifteen years twenty years of my life,

705
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:06,239
I understand where you're coming from,
to trust me when I tell you I

706
00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:15,440
do. But most white folks that
I have these conversations with, they have

707
00:52:15,679 --> 00:52:22,440
never actually delved down into the depths
of how they view race, racism,

708
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:28,679
and especially people who they're interacting with. So there's a lot of things that

709
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:36,000
was said in the original conversation that
truthfully they were they were traumatic triggers.

710
00:52:36,079 --> 00:52:39,159
So he would just say things and
I'm like, wait a minute, Okay,

711
00:52:39,559 --> 00:52:42,960
dude's trying to be Malcolm X.
Do you know what Malcolm X was?

712
00:52:43,159 --> 00:52:45,159
Okay, Um, black folk,
say, I would like you to

713
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:49,639
meet him because I don't think you
would disagree with me the way he talks,

714
00:52:50,119 --> 00:52:52,320
in the way he you know what
I mean, he wants to be

715
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,840
a leader, all this did he
dies? But Malcolm X is more of

716
00:52:54,920 --> 00:53:00,000
a He was a guy who almost
wanted to radical other people. Would that

717
00:53:00,039 --> 00:53:01,960
be fair? No, no,
no, no, no, no,

718
00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:05,719
no, no, no, no, that's who that is, not who

719
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,519
Malcolm was. Yeah, I'm stalking
a little bit of Malcolm. Malcolm was

720
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:13,440
a guy who said, if white
people are gonna beat us, we're gonna

721
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,760
beat them back. He didn't say
you white, No, Um, that

722
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:21,320
would have been there was another brother
who actually wanted a MoU MoU in Mississippi.

723
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,360
Um, but that was that's a
whole nother different thing. But um,

724
00:53:25,199 --> 00:53:31,239
so look man, this is from
my perspective. This is not me,

725
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:36,880
um trying to attack you on this. I want you I know,

726
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:45,760
so I'm really I'm hoping that you
come away from this trying to get deeper

727
00:53:45,119 --> 00:53:51,440
into why you feel the way you
do, because this is not just a

728
00:53:51,599 --> 00:53:57,000
one time traumatic event for you.
This is a culmination. So I'm going

729
00:53:57,079 --> 00:54:00,599
to disagree with you. I know
you're going to just because that's that's when

730
00:54:00,639 --> 00:54:04,239
you're going to say to me.
But like I said, I'm going to

731
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:07,400
say this one hundred times, I
worked in a liquor store that was ninety

732
00:54:07,519 --> 00:54:12,320
percent black. No, that's my
point. That's my point. You made

733
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:15,800
a mention of the idea, of
the idea that or not the idea,

734
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:19,519
but the fact that people would say
some pretty rough and tumble stuff to you

735
00:54:20,480 --> 00:54:22,639
basically because you were white and you
working at the store, they would disrespect

736
00:54:22,679 --> 00:54:28,159
you sometimes sometimes. Now I had
a wait, I had a bunch of

737
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:30,639
white Some of my white customers were
the worst customers I ever had, though,

738
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:34,880
So it's like, it works both
ways. It was like, I'm

739
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,199
not saying that it understand I'm not
saying that it doesn't work both ways.

740
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:44,119
What I'm saying to you is with
you being in that community with some of

741
00:54:44,159 --> 00:54:46,679
the things that those folks said,
as much as you say that they didn't

742
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:51,239
bother you as much as you say
that you just kind of let them go.

743
00:54:51,639 --> 00:54:53,840
I'm telling you you did not let
them go, and I can see

744
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:59,199
it in some of the common that
you have made. So look, at

745
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:04,480
the end of the day, we
I want you, I want you to

746
00:55:04,679 --> 00:55:07,880
really get some help with this trauma
that's mine, you see, to get

747
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:12,800
help. But you're I'm gonna say
this about I'm gonna I'm gonna say it,

748
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:15,159
just say it. This is what
you are a black You are a

749
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:20,719
black man. I'm a white guy. You're judging me, and you don't

750
00:55:20,880 --> 00:55:23,519
know anything about me and what my
life is and what I've done. No

751
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:28,280
what what I think he's trying to
say. He's trying to all the insults

752
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,400
that you had added up, added
up to the point where you were sick

753
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:32,880
of it. No, not,
no, not. I would still be

754
00:55:34,039 --> 00:55:36,960
if I didn't get robbed, So
I would still be there, all right.

755
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:40,280
I mean, it was the believe
that I would go to that store

756
00:55:40,559 --> 00:55:43,840
I've said marked down in a couple
of weeks for a couple of times,

757
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:45,280
a couple of twenties, you guys
can meet up at President City Brewery and

758
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:49,320
have a few I was proud.
I was proud of that store. I

759
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:52,719
was proud of the nick pin of
fifty years but he did there. I

760
00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,719
was proud about everything about that job. EJ. We're kind of I like

761
00:55:55,920 --> 00:56:00,320
this because I think it's never ever
touched on. Amen. I don't think

762
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:05,639
we I can't think of anywhere where
I've heard a conversation kind of close to

763
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:08,280
this. No way, I like
that. But I feel like we've kind

764
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:13,000
of come to sort of an end
for today. But I don't know that

765
00:56:13,079 --> 00:56:16,159
we shouldn't try something again sometimes for
real. Absolutely, Yeah, Yeah,

766
00:56:16,239 --> 00:56:20,280
you're awesome, by the way.
I like talking with you because i'd like

767
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:24,239
to I like the idea that there's
a conversation because all my life, all

768
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:28,199
I have heard is we need to
have a conversation. And I kept on,

769
00:56:29,079 --> 00:56:32,760
how who who's doing? Who's Yeah
when? So we haven't we have

770
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:37,960
a platform? Yeah, I don't
know. People may get turned off,

771
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:40,800
but it's the tempt and that's what
This is the most civil conversation I've had.

772
00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:45,000
I mean, we talked and we
listened to each other. My thought,

773
00:56:45,039 --> 00:56:49,159
this is great. Okay. Yeah. The last thing I do want

774
00:56:49,199 --> 00:56:52,519
to say, man Bill, is
as always, Man, I love the

775
00:56:52,559 --> 00:56:59,360
show. Uh, you guys are
wonderful, awesome. I look forward to

776
00:56:59,639 --> 00:57:04,119
every single episode you put out and
man, just keep on keeping on.

777
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,440
All right, thank you, Eja, that was that. I'm a big

778
00:57:07,519 --> 00:57:10,639
fan, you know that though.
Absolutely, brother, Absolutely, we'll see

779
00:57:10,639 --> 00:57:15,760
you later night, guys. See
it all right? Was great. I

780
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,679
thought it was well, staying out
we're still I thought we're doing. I

781
00:57:19,719 --> 00:57:22,039
thought it was fine. I thought
it was fine. But all right,

782
00:57:22,159 --> 00:57:25,639
we're on two different spectrums. We're
never going to come all right to that.

783
00:57:27,119 --> 00:57:30,800
Yeah, I understand where he's what
he's thinking, right, But of

784
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:34,280
course he's doing to think that well, because yeah, he has every right

785
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,159
to think that, and if I
were him, I would think dead too.

786
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,360
Yeah, so then you sort of
not as far apart as you think

787
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,960
you are. Maybe not. Yeah, that's all all right. Toronto Dental,

788
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:46,480
Ah, my friend doctor Eduardo,
Toronto. I'm telling you I'm a

789
00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:50,880
patient over there, and I'm not
just saying this. Best dental care I've

790
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:54,199
ever had. And the great thing
is they take most insurances. They're gonna

791
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:59,320
work with you to keep the out
of pocket expense as low as possible and

792
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:05,400
give you all the options. Sometimes
I have a gold tooth. I'm from

793
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,360
doctor Toronto. But I went to
a place and they put gold in and

794
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:12,079
I remember going to Somebody goes,
you got golden there, and I go,

795
00:58:12,239 --> 00:58:15,199
yeah, I didn't know there was
an option, Like I wasn't given

796
00:58:15,199 --> 00:58:17,599
an option. Do you know what
I'm saying. I saw a lot of

797
00:58:17,639 --> 00:58:24,679
that on Clinton Heaven No, but
this is like it's in the back tooth.

798
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:28,639
But I don't even want to say
where it was because it still sound

799
00:58:28,719 --> 00:58:32,400
bad. But my point is,
doctor Toronto, if you want it,

800
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:36,360
I'm sure you can make it happen
for you. But his point is to

801
00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:40,000
give you the choice. You get
to make the choice if you're not in

802
00:58:40,039 --> 00:58:43,599
a lot of pain, and we
don't need to do the rookenale right now.

803
00:58:43,679 --> 00:58:45,880
I'm sure doctor Toronto would say we
can wait. And that's always a

804
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:50,599
nice thing because those things can get
ensive cleaning. Does he do they have

805
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,320
the um? Is it just a
regular cleaning you know with the you know

806
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,679
some people have the have the things
where it's water cleaning. Oh yeah,

807
00:58:57,679 --> 00:58:59,800
they do both. They do both. Yeah, Oh that that's huge.

808
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809
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814
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815
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816
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817
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know what. You know why because it

818
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Do it your balls, your friends and

831
01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:45,840
maybe others will love you for it. It used to seem to my friend

832
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:51,800
on too fat and I had to
take it slowly, just didn't make the

833
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:59,639
good bits. Then when you to
just slow it down, may you forget

834
01:00:59,679 --> 01:01:12,440
the le Bretta back? Do you
know who this is? Is it Joey

835
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:20,199
Bart? How dare you? I
love this version? Actually no, it's

836
01:01:20,199 --> 01:01:23,639
Warren Zevon. So, uh we
had talked last week and I said how

837
01:01:23,719 --> 01:01:30,800
much I really really like uh yeah, Stevie Winwood, and somebody wrote me

838
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:35,480
I think it was Robin Zannon,
I think, and said you got to

839
01:01:35,519 --> 01:01:38,360
check out Warren Zevon doing Highlight in
the Highlight again. And when you listen

840
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:43,880
to the words, you almost get
you appreciate the lyrics. And you remember

841
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:46,199
how Brother Wees would always say on
the radio, every band should do a

842
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:51,760
cover, yes, And I always
thought, yeah, I don't get it.

843
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:53,639
And then as I got older,
I started to think yeah, because

844
01:01:54,079 --> 01:01:59,199
we all know the words. But
I love a cover when it's done in

845
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,239
your voice. That's Warren Zevon,
right, that's not Weezer trying to be

846
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:07,480
Toto. That's Warren Zevon covering.
It's like back in the Highlight, for

847
01:02:07,599 --> 01:02:12,320
example, UM, I Always Love
You. Um Dolly Parton did it in

848
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,400
Whitney Houston. It's two totally different
songs. Right. When you listen to

849
01:02:15,679 --> 01:02:21,599
Um Dolly Parton's it's haunting. When
you listen to Minney Houston's it's more of

850
01:02:21,679 --> 01:02:25,719
a soothing song. Yeah. So
it's really weird how the interpretations. It's

851
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,400
such an art. It's such an
art, and I would like a bunch

852
01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,280
of covers too. She's covered Collective
Soul Shine. It's really cool, Dolly

853
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:36,280
Parton. Oh yeah, send new
rock album coming out. And I thought

854
01:02:36,320 --> 01:02:39,000
the like I used to love when
Van Hamlon did Roy Orbison. Yes,

855
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,840
I mean that was great because they
did it as Van Halen when Guns and

856
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,119
Roses did Paul McCartney and Wings,
they didn't do it Handles so cool.

857
01:02:45,199 --> 01:02:50,880
They did a remake of Linda Ronstat
You're no good. Oh yeah, yeah,

858
01:02:50,920 --> 01:02:53,320
I gotta find that such a great
it's such a great version of it.

859
01:02:54,079 --> 01:02:57,880
Uh. So on theline is our
friend, um, Doug Phelps.

860
01:02:58,719 --> 01:03:01,719
And the reason I asked Kevin to
call Doug Phelps is because today, Doug,

861
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:07,239
while I'm slightly disgusted and I'm not
happy that this is happening, because

862
01:03:07,239 --> 01:03:09,519
I think it's setting a precedent in
America that we don't need, I think

863
01:03:09,599 --> 01:03:15,840
this could make you, Doug Phelps. No, I think you're going to

864
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:22,360
do something that you haven't done since
you were fourteen? Can you hear me?

865
01:03:22,199 --> 01:03:25,320
Yeah? What have I done?
I was fourteen? Yeah? I

866
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,800
think this is going to have you
do something that you haven't done since you

867
01:03:28,840 --> 01:03:32,679
were fourteen, and that would be
masturbate to the cover of Sports Illustrated Swimsuit

868
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:43,719
Issue. I never masturbated a sports
liar. You're gonna say you never swimsuit

869
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:49,559
issue, the Swimsuit Issue and you
have the Ireland on the cover. Get

870
01:03:49,599 --> 01:03:52,880
her for years, I still have
Playboys, and that I say from nineteen

871
01:03:53,079 --> 01:03:58,119
seventy eight. They're awesome. Okay, now they're they're all seventy Yeah,

872
01:03:58,599 --> 01:04:03,360
well guess what. Martha Stewart is
one of the cover girls of Sports Illustrated

873
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:09,639
Swimsuit issue at eighty one years old. I'm in I know you are you

874
01:04:09,679 --> 01:04:14,239
would you know who was gonna who
said they would do Playboy at seventy five

875
01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,920
years old if it came back.
Was Dally Parton. Yeah, but it

876
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,639
got so much fun. But even
but that, but even that would just

877
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:26,400
be all tap. You wouldn't see
anything like this is Martha all hang out,

878
01:04:26,679 --> 01:04:30,119
But this is Martha who she's very
pretty, but it's clearly airbrushed and

879
01:04:30,199 --> 01:04:35,159
stuff. You know, everything's sagging
and bagging, and I go, now

880
01:04:35,199 --> 01:04:38,880
we're gonna Now all of a sudden, we have to go, oh you're

881
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:42,719
beautiful. No, you're eighty one. It's fine, okay to be eighty

882
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:46,559
one and not on the cover of
Sports Illustrated. Yeah, but it's gonna

883
01:04:46,559 --> 01:04:53,679
be the old Titanic confidence what confidence? Confidence can be? Sexy? Silkin

884
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:59,079
twenty five. Oh, I don't
know, Silkin forty five, forty five,

885
01:04:59,199 --> 01:05:00,960
sixty five, you're talking about language? Yeah, I know, yeah,

886
01:05:01,079 --> 01:05:03,920
eighty one. She's on the cover, so go out and get it.

887
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:10,880
Megan Fox. Megan Fox is another
one, and uh, Kim Petris

888
01:05:11,559 --> 01:05:15,519
and I think another Sports Illustrated she's
a Grammy Award winning artist. And then

889
01:05:15,679 --> 01:05:20,280
uh Sports Illustrated swimsuit model Brooks Nader. I think is how you say her

890
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:24,480
last name? The girl from LSU
the won the championship in it too.

891
01:05:25,159 --> 01:05:27,079
I don't know, I don't know
if she's on the cover, she may

892
01:05:27,119 --> 01:05:30,679
be in it. And these are
just the cover people. And Martha's a

893
01:05:30,719 --> 01:05:33,360
cover person. I mean, look
at Ellie, miss Pearson and some of

894
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:40,159
the old swimsuit models from way back
when they still look fantastic. Yeah,

895
01:05:40,199 --> 01:05:43,800
and well they do, but so
but those some of those were topless.

896
01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:46,480
They would be topless in Sports Illustrated
with their hands over the breast and I

897
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:50,400
just yea, oh god, I
love it. Doug knows butterflies too,

898
01:05:53,599 --> 01:05:58,920
No, the movie Butterfly from nineteen
seventy five. No, I think we

899
01:05:59,119 --> 01:06:01,239
head to discuss shouldn't one time dog? Actually, to be quite honest with

900
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:05,360
you, I told you about this
moment. Yeah that's Helman. Oh my

901
01:06:05,519 --> 01:06:12,280
gosh, Mark New York in the
house what's going on? So if only

902
01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,719
want they caught on the original nickname
and then they turned into Mark the Soldier

903
01:06:15,519 --> 01:06:18,960
New York. It should have caught
on better. No, Menthed the Soldier.

904
01:06:20,039 --> 01:06:23,480
You were Mark new York. That's
what he called. We used to

905
01:06:23,559 --> 01:06:29,639
hang out together a lot. That's
used to call me Mark New York because

906
01:06:29,679 --> 01:06:31,480
he liked all the New York teams, the Jets, the nick and he

907
01:06:32,039 --> 01:06:34,840
was going to proclaim himself as Mark
new York. And this is when we

908
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:39,320
were working at Kinney's together. And
then I think he went into the radio

909
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:44,519
and that's your story that he used
to promote weeze and do all this stuff,

910
01:06:44,559 --> 01:06:47,239
and that's how we got Marked the
Soldier. Yeah, I just imagine

911
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,559
Mark and Dog and on a Friday
night at USA Skates getting it done.

912
01:06:51,079 --> 01:06:55,039
Oh dude, you would hit the
we would hit the barers man. But

913
01:06:55,199 --> 01:06:59,719
it's two guys. It's two guys
who find women in over seventy Yeah,

914
01:07:00,039 --> 01:07:02,320
in their league. There, that's
their league. That that's not out of

915
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:08,559
their league. That's right in the
sweet spot. I all ages somewhere between

916
01:07:08,679 --> 01:07:11,920
seventy and eulogy. That's what I'm
looking for, Baby, Mark and Dog

917
01:07:12,039 --> 01:07:15,119
running train at your local. We
can all do the early Bird Specialist together.

918
01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:17,800
I'm very disappointed that you're not more
interested in Martha Stewart being on the

919
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:21,360
cover of Sports Illustrated. Yeah,
she's I'm not a fan of hers.

920
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:29,679
She went to jail. He's us
goods hated to where's their pants down under

921
01:07:29,679 --> 01:07:35,760
their ass? Oh she's all right, Dougie doug where's the next comedy gig?

922
01:07:36,719 --> 01:07:41,800
I don't know. I just sign
up for the funniest person. Funniest

923
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:45,000
person I was. I I ubered
a couple of people in the PGA tournament

924
01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:47,599
today. I had ended out a
couple of cards, some great guys,

925
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:51,440
just some of my comedy form.
They loved it. H you know,

926
01:07:51,559 --> 01:07:56,760
they got it running well out there, So it's not as busy for ubering

927
01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:00,519
because people still have, you know, places a go, So I kind

928
01:08:00,559 --> 01:08:03,679
of got dinged out there. Thirty
five is when there were so many people

929
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:08,960
leaving. So h stories though,
you know, like crew roll ups or

930
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:12,760
anything. I'll definitely pass along.
Well, those are always good stories from

931
01:08:12,840 --> 01:08:17,479
your uber uber passengers. But yeah, no, Pitchford is uh is buzzing,

932
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:19,359
I know for sure, and I
think it's going to pick up as

933
01:08:19,399 --> 01:08:23,399
the week goes on, Oh,
without a doubt, Yeah, without a

934
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:27,319
doubt. Yeah, and especially probably
later at night. Yeah, yeah,

935
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:31,479
it's only it's only Monday. Well
I'm gonna go to the Ambered Wednesday,

936
01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:36,399
so I'm only driving half a day. Um, and then I'm doing my

937
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:40,159
other stuff. But yeah, if
there anything good going on, I'll definitely

938
01:08:40,199 --> 01:08:42,439
get the old loop. I'll be
texting you, all right, thank you,

939
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:46,039
Doug. You gotta have a great
night. I'm disappointed that, I

940
01:08:46,119 --> 01:08:49,039
know I would. I had a
bigger reaction than Martha Stewart on the cover

941
01:08:49,119 --> 01:08:54,720
Sports Like I haven't seen it though. No, it's not bad. I

942
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:59,279
mean it's it's it's tasteful. It's
just uh, it's this. You know.

943
01:08:59,439 --> 01:09:05,319
She was on the Today Show and
I think that's odd. Okay,

944
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:13,359
all right, yeah that's confidence,
baby, that's eighty one. That's eighty

945
01:09:13,399 --> 01:09:15,560
one. I can have a nice
conversation with you. I would be happy

946
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:21,279
to buy a cup of coffee maybe
an after dinner to drink, but do

947
01:09:23,039 --> 01:09:28,479
birthday? Birthday. It's kind of
a strange. I don't know, it's

948
01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:32,199
very strange. Strange because here here's
the thing, like we're all supposed to

949
01:09:32,239 --> 01:09:36,119
say, oh, that's brave or
that's whatever, and how confident and it

950
01:09:36,319 --> 01:09:40,840
is. It's all right, But
I don't want to see I've seen another

951
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,479
eighty one year old, so I
don't want to see that. My mom's

952
01:09:43,479 --> 01:09:45,720
a little younger than this. I
don't want to see her friends on the

953
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:49,600
cover of Sports Illustrated. That's just
what I'm saying. I do not want

954
01:09:49,680 --> 01:09:55,560
that my mom saying some pretty half
friends your mom did. Yeah, come

955
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:59,079
on, did you ever hook up? I'm not going there. Did you

956
01:09:59,159 --> 01:10:00,680
ever try to hook up? Not
going? Yes, you just did?

957
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:06,279
I open the door. Can you
just you went and you hooked up with

958
01:10:06,319 --> 01:10:11,840
one of your mom's friends? How
many times a lot? When you were

959
01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:15,000
a kid, when I was seventeen, when you were seventeen, up until

960
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:23,479
up until what thirty forty fifty?
You're still banging her? Yes you are.

961
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:28,079
Oh, last time we begged after
my mother's funeral, after your mother's

962
01:10:28,239 --> 01:10:32,119
death. Oh my closet at the
funeral. Wait a second, So one

963
01:10:32,159 --> 01:10:36,880
of your mom's friends, she comes, and you're the she's the shoulder you

964
01:10:38,039 --> 01:10:40,960
cry on. Yeah, and then
she took you home. I took her

965
01:10:41,039 --> 01:10:43,720
back to my house, and my
mother wasn't alive in there anymore, so

966
01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:48,920
I could actually bring people back.
She's the shouldering crab. You wasn't weird,

967
01:10:49,199 --> 01:10:53,359
She wasn't weird at out by this, But you had a history.

968
01:10:53,800 --> 01:10:57,199
Yeah, it was a long history, a long history. Yeah, so

969
01:10:57,399 --> 01:11:00,640
this happened a lot for you.
Yeah, it begin it's seventeen, Like,

970
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:05,279
this is your mom's friend who who
made the move? You were her?

971
01:11:05,359 --> 01:11:08,920
Oh? I did? You did? Yeah? And so how does

972
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:12,880
that work? Um? You just
I don't know. I just threw a

973
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:15,239
couple of hints, and she told
me I was disgusting human being, because

974
01:11:15,279 --> 01:11:20,000
that's what she was supposed to say
to me. And then then all of

975
01:11:20,039 --> 01:11:23,920
a sudden it happened. I don't
know if I believe this story, But

976
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:28,640
why would I lie when? Right? Right, hang on, I'm just

977
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,920
saying it's seventeen. I would have
been so uncomfortable if one of my mom's

978
01:11:32,039 --> 01:11:35,479
friends, because I didn't have the
confidence at all. Like, I would

979
01:11:35,479 --> 01:11:40,159
have been uncomfortable, right. I
just wanted to retire. I just it

980
01:11:40,279 --> 01:11:43,640
was her. What are you protecting
her? Because I just don't want to.

981
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,000
I don't want to. Well,
so so so waiting. So now

982
01:11:46,039 --> 01:11:48,760
the story changes. This is what
Mark, I got this. I think

983
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:55,600
I'm I told you I didn't want
to talk about it all. We're talking

984
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:59,880
about it now. You're not believing
me, so so you gotta taken advantage

985
01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:01,960
of pretty much. Yeah, and
it and it lasts. You don't believe

986
01:12:02,039 --> 01:12:05,159
me? We can we can call
my brother. Did it last over like

987
01:12:05,319 --> 01:12:10,720
thirty years? Enough? Yeah?
Enough? Because if I wasn't in a

988
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:15,920
relationship, you know, you would
call her? Yeah? Was she single?

989
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:24,199
No? She was married? Yes? Yeh, that's interesting. We'll

990
01:12:24,239 --> 01:12:30,840
take a moment because something somebody's in
the news for having an affair, an

991
01:12:30,840 --> 01:12:35,920
alleged affair, and when you go
to this person's Facebook page, they seem

992
01:12:36,039 --> 01:12:41,680
to have a very nice life with
someone else. But now it's it's out

993
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:45,159
and I and I and I will
say that I think a little bit of

994
01:12:45,199 --> 01:12:48,560
the blame. I mean, I
know that all of us. The person

995
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:53,600
who cheats, that's the evil one, that's the bad one. But maybe

996
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:59,720
not, I'll explain next. Days
like today make you want to get out

997
01:13:00,279 --> 01:13:01,800
and get away from an all in
an RV. That's why you need to

998
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:05,640
make a point to get to Myers
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999
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:09,640
effect and That means if you saw
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1000
01:13:10,039 --> 01:13:13,399
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1001
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1003
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This thing is ingeniously designed. It's got

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a nice sitting area, the bunk
beds look great, extra storage, the

1005
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:35,359
way they lay these things out,
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1006
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microwave in there, you got a
nice bathroom with a shower. It's amazing

1007
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to me. The use of space
and then the storage space under beds and

1008
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It's really really well done. And you

1009
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1010
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1011
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1035
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1036
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I had to hit hawsdey fricking the
hawk to make someone spread eagle,

1037
01:15:45,279 --> 01:15:49,840
where you could use the eagle to
make someone spread hawk. Either way,

1038
01:15:50,119 --> 01:15:55,840
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1039
01:15:55,960 --> 01:16:01,640
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1040
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1041
01:16:06,199 --> 01:16:11,960
like and subscribe Tibilified wherever you get
your podcast. Mark. I said that

1042
01:16:12,039 --> 01:16:15,960
if you had those hawks or falcons, like if the police got those in

1043
01:16:15,039 --> 01:16:18,239
addition to the dogs. Yeah,
and then you sick that on somebody like

1044
01:16:18,319 --> 01:16:21,119
you had a bird fly at you, but this year you were holding the

1045
01:16:21,119 --> 01:16:24,800
police at bay with like a machete
or even a gun. Right, instead

1046
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:28,640
of shooting the guy, even with
non lethal force, would just fly that

1047
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:31,439
hawk at his head and you just
hear him scream and drop everything and go.

1048
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:34,520
That would scare the funk out of
me, right, I think I

1049
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:36,800
hate birds. Yeah, that's what
I think. I think that would be,

1050
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:43,800
uh the way. I think that's
the way to go. I'm still

1051
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:46,800
drunk. I think I think that
I'm surprised they haven't done this already,

1052
01:16:47,079 --> 01:16:54,800
because we I swear to God,
back in the old English days, the

1053
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:58,680
Kings had these hawks and things,
and I think they were used for I

1054
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:01,399
don't know the various reasons, parts
of war and stuff. So in the

1055
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:08,439
news today is this nice looking lady. Her name is Lisa Faulkner. She's

1056
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:12,239
fifty six years old. She's got
a part time job as a as a

1057
01:17:12,319 --> 01:17:16,840
cook at the Livingston County Jail,
and she's been arrested. Mark, why

1058
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:23,199
do you think Lisa falk fifty or
Faulkner, excuse me, fifty six was

1059
01:17:23,319 --> 01:17:28,199
arrested and she's only a part time
cook at the Livingston County Jail. What

1060
01:17:28,279 --> 01:17:31,119
would she have been doing that would
have gotten her arrested? I'll give you

1061
01:17:31,199 --> 01:17:36,600
many things. Okay again, d
d wi Okay, all right. No.

1062
01:17:38,239 --> 01:17:46,039
According to deputies, she was having
a romantic relationship with a prisoner and

1063
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:51,800
it included one incident of her inappropriately
touching him. It was also alleged that

1064
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:58,079
Faulkner brought an item into jail which
was given to the inmate. I don't

1065
01:17:58,079 --> 01:18:00,279
know what that item is. I
would consider contraband, that is what I

1066
01:18:00,319 --> 01:18:06,960
would think. During the investigation,
they said that Faulkner alerted she altered evidence

1067
01:18:08,119 --> 01:18:12,560
once she was aware of the investigation
happening. She was arrested and charged with

1068
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,880
tampering with physical evidence, promoting a
physical contraband in the second degree, and

1069
01:18:16,039 --> 01:18:20,119
forcible touching. That was the part
I didn't get. How is a part

1070
01:18:20,159 --> 01:18:27,239
time cook going to alter evidence video? He's had somebody like erased the video

1071
01:18:27,359 --> 01:18:32,079
camera. There's got a guarantee,
in a prison guarantee, they've got cameras

1072
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:36,720
to see everything. She found a
way to get in there Livingston County Jail.

1073
01:18:36,720 --> 01:18:40,319
I don't know, I don't know
what you know what she has access

1074
01:18:40,359 --> 01:18:43,159
to or not. And I wonder
if she went in and tried to erase

1075
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:46,960
whatever was on the video or got
someone or asked someone to do it,

1076
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,279
and they're going to say that would
be altering evidence. That's the only thing

1077
01:18:50,279 --> 01:18:53,520
I can think of, because I'm
like, you're a part time cook,

1078
01:18:53,640 --> 01:18:56,000
but don't really have access to much
of anything. No, you don't,

1079
01:18:56,039 --> 01:18:58,720
But did you have access to the
people and you could probably go into different

1080
01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:00,239
places, like you know, if
of a sudden, like you know,

1081
01:19:00,359 --> 01:19:03,760
you lure the guard away, you
tell your boyfriend, make a ruckist down

1082
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:08,119
here, start yelling, and then
the guard leaves and you run it in

1083
01:19:08,199 --> 01:19:11,159
your honest computer trying to race like
a bad movie, you know what I

1084
01:19:11,239 --> 01:19:15,960
mean. That's what I'm thinking.
But here's the part. That she's married.

1085
01:19:15,399 --> 01:19:18,880
She has all these nice picture looks
like her and her grandkids on her

1086
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:24,119
Facebook page, her and her husband. There's even a picture where her husband

1087
01:19:24,239 --> 01:19:28,760
comments, this is my favorite picture
of us, and it's from like twenty

1088
01:19:29,119 --> 01:19:30,399
twenty, twenty nineteen. I mean, it's a couple of years ago.

1089
01:19:30,720 --> 01:19:38,760
But I go an, here's the
bad part. There were times when the

1090
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:41,720
Times of Wayne County we've done stories
from the Times of Wayne County and people

1091
01:19:41,760 --> 01:19:45,600
get very, very upset. I
have heard of people trying to go through

1092
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:49,279
the different towns where they sell The
Times of Wayne County and buy every episode

1093
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:54,520
just so it wouldn't get out there. This is one of those stories where

1094
01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:58,119
I always go people go, well, everybody I know, everybody I know,

1095
01:19:58,239 --> 01:20:00,239
and I always think, yeah,
okay, how many people you're really

1096
01:20:00,319 --> 01:20:05,880
close to? Ten This is a
case where everybody you know and then some

1097
01:20:06,359 --> 01:20:11,359
is talking about the fact that you
had an affair or wanted to have an

1098
01:20:11,359 --> 01:20:15,479
affair or something with a prisoner and
are talking behind you and your husband's back,

1099
01:20:15,560 --> 01:20:18,680
even if they just sort of know
you from back in the day,

1100
01:20:19,359 --> 01:20:25,520
if they're a casual neighbor, you
know, three doors down. Because every

1101
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:30,960
single every single TV station in the
area covered this. Thirteen Wham Livingston County

1102
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:35,720
jail Cook accused of having a romantic
relationship with inmate. Ten NBC jail Cook

1103
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:41,119
charged with felony after alleged romantic relationship
withinmate. You can't get the fuck away

1104
01:20:41,159 --> 01:20:46,000
from this CBS Channel eight. Jail
Cook accused of inappropriate relationship with inmate.

1105
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:51,159
And I didn't even bother to look
at Spectrum or anything else. But I'm

1106
01:20:51,199 --> 01:20:57,239
going you can't get away from it. No, it's everywhere it is.

1107
01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:01,720
Here's my thing, you know now
is always the joke if you um better

1108
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:05,079
do something wrong because in our news
it would be twenty four hours your name

1109
01:21:05,119 --> 01:21:08,560
would be all that's funny. Yeah, I didn't even think of that.

1110
01:21:08,760 --> 01:21:11,479
Ye. Yeah, well back back
when they're real. Yeah, when they're

1111
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:15,359
real, when they were real,
we're a real news channel. They still

1112
01:21:15,399 --> 01:21:19,439
do news. Yeah, time five
minutes of local and twenty five minutes of

1113
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:25,680
CNN. Yeah. So here's the
part that I started to think about.

1114
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:28,399
Yes, eg, I'm bitter about
that. I'm bitter about our news too.

1115
01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:32,560
Could you imagine if that was like
your wife, like you find out

1116
01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:38,079
that it's the part time. I
mean you, how how are you finding

1117
01:21:38,119 --> 01:21:40,279
this out? Maybe you had to
go pick her up from jail and you

1118
01:21:40,399 --> 01:21:44,039
find out. But then it's all
over the news, like you can't get

1119
01:21:44,079 --> 01:21:46,279
away from it. You as the
husband, you can't get away from it.

1120
01:21:47,319 --> 01:21:55,800
But when it comes to like somebody
cheating, who's to blame in your

1121
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:59,479
opinion, who's to blame? Well, the person and cheats is to blame.

1122
01:21:59,560 --> 01:22:02,520
But there's always the reason why they
cheat, So there could be you

1123
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:05,760
know what I mean, Yes,
like I never cheated before? You have

1124
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,960
I cheated? You? Have you
ever cheated on a snoof another? I

1125
01:22:09,039 --> 01:22:13,079
never have? Uh? Probably when
I was young, what like college?

1126
01:22:15,039 --> 01:22:17,760
College? Yeah, I just I
mean I think at college, I I

1127
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:23,640
had a girlfriend at home and two
on the road. I had no girlfriend

1128
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:26,680
up here. I don't know,
but I mean you were like nineteen twenty.

1129
01:22:27,439 --> 01:22:30,039
Yeah, you know what I mean
Again, Wait a minute, I

1130
01:22:30,319 --> 01:22:33,439
really got to backtrack my saying right
now, why you cheat? Because when

1131
01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:36,319
I was at CMF, remember we
would we would meet all these girls and

1132
01:22:36,359 --> 01:22:40,159
I had a great I had a
girlfriend. Yeah, but would you do

1133
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:45,279
not much? It was thought about, okay, all right, but that's

1134
01:22:45,359 --> 01:22:48,119
different than actually doing. But I
was thinking, like, I go,

1135
01:22:48,279 --> 01:22:51,800
what is this, What is happening? What's missing in this woman's life?

1136
01:22:53,359 --> 01:22:57,199
Like for her, this is the
perfect thing, right because I bet you

1137
01:22:57,359 --> 01:23:00,239
out in the real life. I
mean, she's on her Facebook page age,

1138
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:01,720
the mug shots, I mean the
mug shots, the mug shot on

1139
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:05,560
our Facebook page. She's a very
pleasant looking woman and smiling, kind of

1140
01:23:05,680 --> 01:23:11,720
pretty, you know, like mid
to late fifties. Okay, you know,

1141
01:23:12,319 --> 01:23:15,279
probably not a lot of excitement romantically
going on in her life, right

1142
01:23:15,479 --> 01:23:19,000
even with her husband just probably isn't. Now all of a sudden, here

1143
01:23:19,079 --> 01:23:26,239
comes a prisoner that's coming through the
food line or whatever and just goes probably

1144
01:23:26,279 --> 01:23:29,199
says, I love your smile.
I mean, it could be something as

1145
01:23:29,239 --> 01:23:31,439
simple as that, or there you
are with that beautiful smile. You know,

1146
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:34,039
somebody with a personality that's I mean, it's the county jail. And

1147
01:23:34,119 --> 01:23:36,720
we're not talking about state prison.
It's not you know what I mean.

1148
01:23:38,159 --> 01:23:42,560
Starts with a couple exentertainer todds and
like, I just wonder, how does

1149
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:45,560
it? How does that work out? And I think it starts with a

1150
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:49,520
little bit of flirt thing and then
it's like the bad boy thing and I

1151
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:53,119
shouldn't be doing this And the next
thing, you know, and who knows

1152
01:23:53,159 --> 01:23:56,000
what really happened. All it's called
is inappropriate touching. Why don't you give

1153
01:23:56,039 --> 01:23:59,399
him a hand job through his pants? Maybe? I mean, who knows,

1154
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:02,079
Well, we don't know what it
is. The headlines say romantic it

1155
01:24:02,159 --> 01:24:06,720
could be, but but it,
man, it's fucking everywhere. Do you

1156
01:24:06,800 --> 01:24:13,119
stay if you're a husband? Donna
call a husband? Uh, you know,

1157
01:24:13,159 --> 01:24:16,880
it's uncomfortable as that interview we did
last week. What the guy.

1158
01:24:17,159 --> 01:24:23,000
I love that guy he got so
mad at me called me back and he's

1159
01:24:23,039 --> 01:24:27,359
yelling at me. Why I called
him compan down? But we were not

1160
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:30,560
what you were nice to him,
all right, but we could we I

1161
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:33,600
know that Kevin had reached out to
to Lisa, and I figured there was

1162
01:24:33,640 --> 01:24:38,560
no way Lisa was. I didn't
Yeah, I didn't think and I don't

1163
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:42,439
think her husband would say anything either, Because this one, I feel like

1164
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:46,439
they probably got something. They probably
have them making out on tape which could

1165
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:50,640
be considered inappropriate touching even probably not
supposed to friend. Yes, it's a

1166
01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:54,760
prisoner. I'm just more looking to
find out from the husband than she cook

1167
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:59,159
at home. She part time cooking
the down part time cooking at home.

1168
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:01,439
How does has happened? You know
the whole thing at Dana Mora, Right,

1169
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:06,920
you got this seamstress with two really
bad guys and she falls in love.

1170
01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:11,039
But she said she was in love. She was gonna take off of

1171
01:25:11,079 --> 01:25:13,720
them. They were gonna kill her
husband, and she was gonna take off

1172
01:25:13,760 --> 01:25:15,800
of them, and she chicken out
at the last minute. She didn't pick

1173
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:17,840
them up. They came out the
manhole or whatever, and they weren't there,

1174
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:21,600
and so then they were on the
run. The whole show. We

1175
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:25,520
had that, that whole website.
I mean, no, the prisoner.

1176
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,159
That's where you get to write a
prisoner, right. You don't think that

1177
01:25:28,239 --> 01:25:32,399
I'm writing for so long that I
don't want to Eventually it's away and it

1178
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:36,680
gets a little sassier each time,
saucier. No, they get out.

1179
01:25:38,039 --> 01:25:42,079
This is no, this is this
is different. This is you're hired to

1180
01:25:42,159 --> 01:25:47,039
work in the prison. I'm sure
you're given all kinds of teaching on you

1181
01:25:47,119 --> 01:25:50,439
don't fratnize with the prisoners. Hey, these guys are gonna be a little

1182
01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:53,680
inappropriate. Hey, ladies, this
is what you need to be. On

1183
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,640
the lookout for these guys, you
know what I mean, they're all guys

1184
01:25:56,680 --> 01:26:00,960
in there. I gotta think that
there's a whole bunch of upaganda that's coming

1185
01:26:00,039 --> 01:26:03,840
at you telling you to stay away
from him. And yet what happened?

1186
01:26:04,199 --> 01:26:10,640
How did that contact between a seamstress
and these really bad dudes could come together?

1187
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:14,039
I get maybe the cook, but
the part time cook, she's only

1188
01:26:14,079 --> 01:26:17,319
there what Monday, Wednesday, Friday. You know what I'm saying? Maybe

1189
01:26:17,359 --> 01:26:20,279
she took the job, and maybe
she took the job to meet somebody there.

1190
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:23,960
He's not a bad person. I
can change him. I can change

1191
01:26:24,039 --> 01:26:27,239
him, like you're in there,
you know, I don't know. I'm

1192
01:26:27,239 --> 01:26:30,520
always I'm always curious as to like
whose idea was at first? And how

1193
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,920
did it get there? You know, yeah, like how did somebody go,

1194
01:26:33,399 --> 01:26:36,199
I'm sorry, I'm married. That's
a bad idea. You're a prisoner.

1195
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:40,399
All of a sudden, it's almost
like, oh, like you know

1196
01:26:40,640 --> 01:26:44,079
that whatever he first said to her, she went home and she could not

1197
01:26:44,239 --> 01:26:46,720
get him out of her head.
She couldn't right, and she kept thinking

1198
01:26:46,760 --> 01:26:50,319
about him, kept well, see
that's the thing. And then you know

1199
01:26:50,359 --> 01:26:54,800
what happens. The husband's not paying
attention. He's fallen asleep in his chair,

1200
01:26:55,119 --> 01:26:58,720
he's become very boring. Everything's wrote, he leaves his socks on the

1201
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:00,680
floor, he's got a for he
asked, he stinks in the morning.

1202
01:27:01,039 --> 01:27:06,159
She's sick of it. And now
she's got this prisoner right there at work

1203
01:27:06,199 --> 01:27:09,600
and done. That's I'm telling you. I swear to God that's how it

1204
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:14,680
happened. I swear he may it
makes sense, Yes, yes, I

1205
01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:17,960
would rather have her as a neighbor
than another guy from three one five who

1206
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:28,039
would not come on, very upset
with us. He Uh, his name

1207
01:27:28,239 --> 01:27:33,399
is Chuck la Maagra. Do you
know Chuck? Please tell me you know

1208
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:38,279
Chuck? All freaking man, oh
man was here, he'd be freaking losing

1209
01:27:38,319 --> 01:27:42,880
his mind. Do you know Chuck
Lagally? Are you kidding? No?

1210
01:27:43,159 --> 01:27:45,279
If it's the same guy, how
old is he? That's I got to

1211
01:27:45,319 --> 01:27:49,039
be him? How do you know
he's a He was a promoter for UM

1212
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:54,159
for U hip hop bands. Oh
my god, I think you're right.

1213
01:27:54,319 --> 01:27:56,600
Yeah, you know he was.
You know who he is? Oh my

1214
01:27:56,840 --> 01:28:00,880
god, Yeah, I only know
that because I went through his Facebook page.

1215
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:01,960
Sure he's a fat guy, right, yeah, yeah, that's him.

1216
01:28:02,119 --> 01:28:04,760
Oh my god, Matt, Matt, Matt would be dying right now.

1217
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:08,600
All right, So Chuck, So
Chuck. I was trying to get

1218
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:12,760
him to come on. Chuck got
arrested. He got into a dispute over

1219
01:28:12,840 --> 01:28:16,600
a property line with a neighbor,
and then he threatened to put a bullet

1220
01:28:16,600 --> 01:28:20,520
between the guy's eyes. Oh that
sounds like him, though, it sounds

1221
01:28:20,520 --> 01:28:25,239
like something he said it Titanic.
Oh, he used to run titan I

1222
01:28:25,359 --> 01:28:28,039
used to do shows a Titanic used
to Yeah, but I think he actually

1223
01:28:28,079 --> 01:28:30,760
worked at Titanic. To be quite
honest with you, It's like I go,

1224
01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,840
if if a neighbor threatened me like
that, I think I was just

1225
01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:36,279
like, all right, you're an
idiot. But I swear to God,

1226
01:28:36,319 --> 01:28:40,399
if I were still married and my
wife heard him say that it's in,

1227
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:43,239
you gotta call the police, he
can't say that. That's what it would

1228
01:28:43,239 --> 01:28:45,640
be, right, And I wonder
if that's how. I don't know if

1229
01:28:45,680 --> 01:28:49,239
somebody overreacted. But he has been
arrested. So I reached out to him

1230
01:28:49,279 --> 01:28:55,319
on Facebook and we went back and
forth. This was yesterday and then again

1231
01:28:55,359 --> 01:28:58,079
today, and then today he said, I think I'd rather talk to my

1232
01:28:58,199 --> 01:29:01,680
lawyer first, because sometimes the Times
Wayne County, all they're taking is a

1233
01:29:01,960 --> 01:29:06,079
police blotterer. It's not that they're
making things up. They're not, but

1234
01:29:06,239 --> 01:29:11,520
they're just taking a police blotterer.
So I don't know that there's so there's

1235
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:15,000
usually another side to the story.
Well, sure, what they're getting is

1236
01:29:15,119 --> 01:29:17,319
is they're getting the one side they're
getting. Yeah, they're getting the the

1237
01:29:17,399 --> 01:29:20,039
call that's sent in. That's why
they're doing it. They do that in

1238
01:29:20,079 --> 01:29:27,680
the grease page so I let's see
Chuck. I wrote, Chuck, my

1239
01:29:27,760 --> 01:29:30,199
name is Bill Moran, any chance
we may talk to you on the podcast

1240
01:29:30,279 --> 01:29:33,600
about the Times Wayne County story.
So he goes, please send me the

1241
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:36,079
article, and I wrote, you
didn't see it? He said no.

1242
01:29:38,159 --> 01:29:41,880
I said all right, and he
goes, ps, I don't see it

1243
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:44,760
on their Facebook website. I go
stand by Chuck and I sent him the

1244
01:29:44,880 --> 01:29:48,840
article and then he writes back,
the only way I will say anything is

1245
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:54,319
if you quote me word for word
and not twist. The article is completely

1246
01:29:54,399 --> 01:29:59,920
wrong. And then all of a
sudden, I get umffers are terrible track,

1247
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:08,399
followed by white pieces of shit,
followed by who wrote that article is

1248
01:30:08,439 --> 01:30:14,359
my picture included We're already moving to
Florida. Go fuck yourselves. This is

1249
01:30:14,560 --> 01:30:17,079
uh. Then somebody writes this is
Anthony. Y'all need to leave Chuck alone.

1250
01:30:17,479 --> 01:30:20,920
Pussy, stay pussy. That's why
you all have jobs you do right

1251
01:30:21,199 --> 01:30:25,680
New York disease, and then he
writes that was my son and wasn't meant

1252
01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:31,239
for you. I don't. I
said, look, I'm writing I'm not

1253
01:30:31,319 --> 01:30:33,359
trying to hurt you. I'm just
trying to see if there's another side of

1254
01:30:33,359 --> 01:30:36,680
the story and get you on the
platform. He goes, what's the platform.

1255
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:41,520
I said, that's the podcast.
So then he was was my picture

1256
01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:44,600
included? And so I sent him
the picture and this is Is this the

1257
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:49,359
guy that you know? That's him? Yeah, it's a terrible picture,

1258
01:30:49,399 --> 01:30:55,199
but yeah, yeah, well it's
his mudhot What would you have You ever

1259
01:30:55,239 --> 01:30:59,720
been threatened by a neighbor by a
neighbor, well, I was a little

1260
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:04,239
kid. Oh nothing, you yeah, most of the time it's nothing.

1261
01:31:04,319 --> 01:31:09,960
But here, let's dispute on a
property line, like I don't can't put

1262
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:14,479
a tree on the line. It's
over like a fence had it. Yeah,

1263
01:31:14,479 --> 01:31:16,560
it's unless trip I gotta or they're
saying to you, this is your

1264
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:19,039
property, you need to mow it. I'm only mowing up to here.

1265
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:21,880
Hey it looks bad. It looks
like it's our yard, but it's not.

1266
01:31:23,079 --> 01:31:26,039
We're not touching it. I mean, people can become pedantic over that

1267
01:31:26,119 --> 01:31:30,119
ship. But Chuck's gonna put a
bullet between somebody's eyes. I would rather

1268
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:34,079
live next to Lisa that I may
say that to a couple of my neighbors,

1269
01:31:34,159 --> 01:31:38,239
just to see the reaction. We
put a bullet between don't don't do

1270
01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:42,239
that just to f No, they
don't care. I can hear this fucking

1271
01:31:42,319 --> 01:31:46,720
assholes saying that too. Really,
yeah, I got one neighbor he likes

1272
01:31:46,760 --> 01:31:53,920
it, he likes to he's got
a small collection of arms. Let's just

1273
01:31:54,039 --> 01:31:57,399
say okay, and there there's been
times where you're looking around and all of

1274
01:31:57,439 --> 01:31:59,520
a sudden you look down. There's
a red dot in your chest. Just

1275
01:32:00,279 --> 01:32:05,479
that's nice. That's nice that you
know, finger goes up. But drop

1276
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:11,359
Jorian moon of something or other.
I got a good neighborhood. Well at

1277
01:32:11,439 --> 01:32:14,800
least you know you're safe if he
doesn't know you. That right. What

1278
01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:18,520
I'm saying every sh I've already suthen
goes down with the neighborhood. We're coming

1279
01:32:18,560 --> 01:32:23,159
to you. You're loading this all
up. Red White and Brew is a

1280
01:32:23,199 --> 01:32:27,279
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They do some really really cool stuff over

1281
01:32:27,319 --> 01:32:30,640
there. They're down at one forty
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1282
01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:33,600
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1283
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:38,720
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1284
01:32:38,800 --> 01:32:44,439
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1285
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1286
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1287
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:54,439
to find one, I don't know
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1288
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1289
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1290
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1291
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1292
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1293
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1294
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1298
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:36,600
Oh, Mac of All Trades.
You know, Mac of All Trades can

1299
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:42,800
do something that not many other places
can do for you, and that is

1300
01:33:43,279 --> 01:33:46,039
all the things that you don't want
to do at your house. They can

1301
01:33:46,119 --> 01:33:49,000
do them, probably better than you
can. You know what, you get

1302
01:33:49,039 --> 01:33:55,279
back your time, right, what
are people complaining about not having? If

1303
01:33:55,319 --> 01:33:57,800
it's not money, it's time,
right, I don't have enough time.

1304
01:33:57,840 --> 01:34:00,760
I don't have enough time. Mac
of All Trades and give you back your

1305
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:03,319
time and take care of the things
that you don't want to do that you've

1306
01:34:03,359 --> 01:34:06,760
been putting off forever. And every
time you put one thing off, another

1307
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:12,039
thing piles on one thing off to
your nagging wife, complained about all the

1308
01:34:12,119 --> 01:34:15,279
things you don't do, and then
do them better than you would do them

1309
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:18,399
and gets her off your back and
gets you right. That's worth So yeah,

1310
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:23,119
you got peace and quiet and you
got your time back. You give

1311
01:34:23,159 --> 01:34:25,800
him a call at two two ninety
two eighteen. That's five eight five two

1312
01:34:25,880 --> 01:34:29,279
zero two ninety two eighteen. Mack
will take care of anything and anything.

1313
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:32,359
When I say anything, I mean
painting a wall, to do in a

1314
01:34:32,439 --> 01:34:36,279
full bathroom or kitchen, remodel,
electrical work, carpentry. You need some

1315
01:34:36,439 --> 01:34:39,720
deck work, they can do that. They can build you a whole deck.

1316
01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:42,840
You can see a lot of what
they do online at Mac of All

1317
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:45,760
Trades dot net. But seriously,
get your time back, stop letting that

1318
01:34:45,840 --> 01:34:49,560
list pile up and let Mac handle
it five eight five two zero two ninety

1319
01:34:49,600 --> 01:35:33,760
two eighteen. It sounds like it's
supposed to be You're no good. Yeah,

1320
01:35:41,199 --> 01:35:48,600
no'm gonna sound sing song. So
it's just like it, let's start.

1321
01:35:51,920 --> 01:36:00,960
Ah, there we go. That's
good. I don't know something.

1322
01:36:00,159 --> 01:36:03,239
I don't think I even picked up
that it was to cover because they do

1323
01:36:03,399 --> 01:36:06,640
was so fan Helen, it's a
kid. I didn't and I had heard

1324
01:36:06,680 --> 01:36:11,119
that Lenda Ron said song a lot. Supposedly, Ide and Alex never heard

1325
01:36:11,159 --> 01:36:15,720
the song a far. I believe
that I didn't. I don't do Yeah,

1326
01:36:15,239 --> 01:36:19,119
song was a hit, yeah,
but in music that didn't appeal to

1327
01:36:19,239 --> 01:36:24,159
them, and they were probably in
the room playing guitar for hours. Maybe

1328
01:36:24,239 --> 01:36:28,319
you think that was you think that
was a big time difference between her version

1329
01:36:28,359 --> 01:36:31,960
and this version. Um yeah,
I don't know what year. This came

1330
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:35,880
out earlier, and uh this is
uh, this is in the seventy eight,

1331
01:36:36,079 --> 01:36:42,359
seventy nine, okay yo. No, it is possible that they didn't

1332
01:36:42,399 --> 01:36:45,479
hear it. Why would they say
it, I guess no, I mean

1333
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:48,119
I really do think it's possible.
I think I think it's great. It

1334
01:36:48,319 --> 01:36:53,439
is great. It's just it's just
so them that you couldn't tell. Can

1335
01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:55,880
you play her as real quick?
Yeah? Lenna Ron said, you're no

1336
01:36:56,000 --> 01:37:00,079
good. Yeah, but it's very
different. I don't. I mean it

1337
01:37:00,279 --> 01:37:02,560
is, but Lizzy, the fact
that you didn't pick up on it until

1338
01:37:02,600 --> 01:37:06,800
the chorl the beginning, I'm hearing
like it sounded like something off a diver

1339
01:37:06,920 --> 01:37:15,399
down. Yeah, yeah, okay, Lena Ron said, you're no good?

1340
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:25,039
All right, hang on one second
man one day when the day was

1341
01:37:25,079 --> 01:37:32,600
hot back in the day. Yeah, but see this I would recommend,

1342
01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:39,800
by the way, again, two
songs we just talked about this. Two

1343
01:37:39,880 --> 01:37:44,119
songs that you can listen to totally
different. Right then, are the same

1344
01:37:44,239 --> 01:37:48,279
song? Yesterday we did a thing
with the same same title, different songs.

1345
01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:57,119
Oh okay, right, he said, think I think it's great too.

1346
01:37:57,399 --> 01:38:00,199
I love that this just sounds very
See I didn't even pick up in

1347
01:38:00,239 --> 01:38:04,000
the beginning, like the guitar.
I didn't even get We did the same

1348
01:38:04,039 --> 01:38:08,239
thing on Weesday Show, by the
way, like thirty years ago. That's

1349
01:38:08,319 --> 01:38:12,840
nice that we can recycle bid for
thirty years ago. That's fucking awesome.

1350
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:23,399
Thirty years there's a limitation brand new
now I just can't believe that he's not

1351
01:38:23,479 --> 01:38:28,520
around anymore. Yeah. Yeah,
and then Linda's uh, watch like Linda

1352
01:38:28,560 --> 01:38:30,520
better watching this real hair looks like, wait a mate, you like Linda's

1353
01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:40,479
batter? Yeah, I don't know. That's like the more soulful. This

1354
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:45,000
is a more soulful thing. This
is more of country. Yeah, but

1355
01:38:45,079 --> 01:38:49,920
I hear like, Uh, I
feel like she connects with this song more

1356
01:38:49,960 --> 01:38:53,960
than name. I feel like he's
just singing it as a rock song.

1357
01:38:54,039 --> 01:38:58,920
I think you're connects. That's what
I like. She's singing more. She's

1358
01:38:58,960 --> 01:39:02,159
coming more out of baby no good, You're no good. What did you

1359
01:39:02,239 --> 01:39:05,960
know about this guy Chuck who we
just brought up from the Matt next week?

1360
01:39:08,119 --> 01:39:10,880
Yeah, but I mean Matt,
Matt knows him well what he does.

1361
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:13,920
Matt knows him real well. And
man also has request for next week

1362
01:39:13,960 --> 01:39:15,119
too. He said the Yankees game, by the way in Toronto? Okay?

1363
01:39:15,239 --> 01:39:18,359
Did he did he catch batting practice? Real? I'm watching here?

1364
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:21,479
Um he no, but Josh Allen
is sitting in a sweep behind him.

1365
01:39:21,560 --> 01:39:26,600
Josh Allen went four deep four times
in batting practice. I'm just watching really

1366
01:39:26,920 --> 01:39:31,560
real now, look at wow,
Josh, He's a big guy, and

1367
01:39:31,680 --> 01:39:35,319
he wants to talk about certain somebody
who was fired from radio. He wants

1368
01:39:35,319 --> 01:39:40,000
to talk about somebody that was fired
for that was let go from radio recently.

1369
01:39:40,159 --> 01:39:45,000
Yes, Kanye, Yeah, what
about him? He just what does

1370
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:48,119
he want to say? It's a
great story. It's a great story,

1371
01:39:48,199 --> 01:39:53,319
pretty funny about Kanye. Yeah.
Is it embarrassing to him? To Matt

1372
01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:55,880
No, to Kanye, Yeah,
oh it is. No. Maybe now

1373
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:58,279
he doesn't give a fuck? Well, I no, I mean, I

1374
01:39:58,319 --> 01:40:00,239
don't, I don't. I don't
know him. Well, I always liked

1375
01:40:00,319 --> 01:40:02,760
him, but we hired him.
I don't want to tell the story.

1376
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:04,720
I wait till mad it's all right, okay, all right, all right,

1377
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:09,640
that'll tell it better than as a
plumber. Yes, because he was

1378
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:12,079
also a plumber. Yes, yeah, I don't know what he we hired

1379
01:40:12,159 --> 01:40:15,640
him. I don't know what's happening
in ra. He did our, he

1380
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:18,960
did Friday night happy hours at Bads
to Billy's. Yeah, and we became

1381
01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:20,920
real good friends with him. Yeah. Yeah, I liked him. He's

1382
01:40:20,920 --> 01:40:25,399
a nice I always liked them too. Well. He hired him as his

1383
01:40:25,439 --> 01:40:31,079
plumber, and all they really went
to shit. That's too bad. And

1384
01:40:31,159 --> 01:40:33,920
I wait a minute. And I'm
not saying he's a bad plumber, right,

1385
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:35,640
you heard, he's doing a lot
of you know, a lot of

1386
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:39,840
good work out there. But this
is between him and bad. So well,

1387
01:40:39,920 --> 01:40:42,960
we'll see, we'll see a bad
sting. Yeah, I have like

1388
01:40:43,159 --> 01:40:45,720
a dilemma that I know they're probably
getting in trouble for you even talking about

1389
01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:48,119
a little bit. But let's do
it nice. No, I have to

1390
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:53,880
be careful because it's just one of
these things where you never looked through your

1391
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:58,159
life and thought you may necessarily be
where you are in any aspect. Certainly

1392
01:40:58,239 --> 01:41:01,239
I never did right, Really,
Bill, are you fucking kidding me?

1393
01:41:02,159 --> 01:41:11,680
I live in a fucking closet.
But I was thinking more like you know,

1394
01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:15,880
my U when I left. When
I left and I separated from my

1395
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:19,840
wife, my older guys were one
was like getting out of high school,

1396
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:21,800
the other one was going to be
out of high school, and so they

1397
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:25,960
were their lives they're grown up.
Was kind of over. But I still

1398
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:30,239
have a guy who's much younger,
and I've always felt there's a tremendous amount

1399
01:41:30,279 --> 01:41:32,560
of guilt, and anybody who's gone
through that probably does. And I know

1400
01:41:32,640 --> 01:41:35,560
when I talk about these things,
there are certain people that go, oh,

1401
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:39,399
you're a fucking hero, could you. I'm not trying to be a

1402
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:42,880
hero. I'm just telling you is
somebody who's who's there. There's a lot

1403
01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:48,079
of guilt. So Jamison, who's
my youngest, looks probably most like his

1404
01:41:48,239 --> 01:41:55,239
mom, but has has the personality
most like his dad. And he h

1405
01:41:55,960 --> 01:42:00,560
he's out of school. He got
suspended for five days. Yeah, so

1406
01:42:00,079 --> 01:42:04,880
I guess he was on the football
team and then was gonna he was on

1407
01:42:04,960 --> 01:42:09,359
a football team, and then he
was going to go for the school football

1408
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:12,439
team and something happened and he goes, you know what, I don't want

1409
01:42:12,439 --> 01:42:14,640
to deal with these guys. He
said, I want to try out for

1410
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:17,199
basketball. So he was trying out
for basketball and I think didn't make it.

1411
01:42:17,279 --> 01:42:20,199
Had never really played organized basketball,
was going to go on to a

1412
01:42:20,239 --> 01:42:23,960
rec league. So I had been
going to parks and things, and some

1413
01:42:24,159 --> 01:42:30,840
kind of scuffle broke out in on
the basketball court and he says it wasn't

1414
01:42:30,920 --> 01:42:33,600
much of anything. But then the
next day it's spilled into art class and

1415
01:42:33,880 --> 01:42:38,279
there was a kid who does not
speak English well, he speaks Spanish,

1416
01:42:38,880 --> 01:42:43,399
and he was threatening him. And
I don't know if Jamison could tell from

1417
01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:48,560
the tone or what. But I
got video and there's video of this fight.

1418
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:51,920
So Jamison walks up and the kid
is like kind of coming at him.

1419
01:42:53,600 --> 01:42:58,239
Jamison puts his hands up the kid
and kind of gets the kid by

1420
01:42:58,279 --> 01:43:00,000
the outside of his shoulders. The
kid comes inside. That's his first mistake,

1421
01:43:00,399 --> 01:43:05,079
and then James the kid uh starts
swinging. So Jamison keeps leaning back

1422
01:43:05,199 --> 01:43:09,800
and the kid's missing. He's like
just kind of and he can see him

1423
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:12,640
and he's almost sort of laughing at
him, and he's missing. He's missing.

1424
01:43:12,680 --> 01:43:14,439
Well, then all of a sudden, he doesn't realize where he is

1425
01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:16,640
now. He kind of hits a
table and he's sitting down. So the

1426
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:19,960
kid's on top of him, and
I think the kid got one punch under

1427
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:23,319
his eye. He had missed all
the others, but Jamison's just hitting him

1428
01:43:23,319 --> 01:43:25,920
in the side of the head,
hitting him, hitting him. Obviously,

1429
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:31,000
it gets broken up. They get
out of there, so as his father,

1430
01:43:31,159 --> 01:43:35,079
I'm looking at the tape and break
it down a fight of him.

1431
01:43:38,159 --> 01:43:40,840
Hi co this is the word fucking
thing because I said to him, hey,

1432
01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:42,840
buddy, you gotta be you didn't
hit me. Why I go,

1433
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:45,159
I know, but you gotta know
where your surroundings are. You end up

1434
01:43:45,199 --> 01:43:47,840
on the table, you'll almost lost
at that point. Know where you are.

1435
01:43:48,279 --> 01:43:50,760
I saw the kid missing, I
saw you moving back. I did,

1436
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:54,640
he did. The kid was missing. It was great. He didn't

1437
01:43:54,640 --> 01:43:57,119
rend him for the fight. You
had told him what he was doing wrong

1438
01:43:57,399 --> 01:44:00,319
and the fight for next this is
the bad thing. And then I go,

1439
01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:01,239
oh my god, I go listen, buddy, I am kidding.

1440
01:44:01,239 --> 01:44:03,279
We should never put our hands on
anybody. And he goes, well,

1441
01:44:03,279 --> 01:44:05,520
he started it. I said,
I could see that, I could say,

1442
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:09,560
and I know even just talking about
this will get me in more trouble

1443
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:14,840
with the family. But it is
one of these things where, uh look,

1444
01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:17,960
you're thirteen. It happens. It's
not it's not something so out of

1445
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:21,439
the ordinary day. But it's not
something that's so out of the ordinary.

1446
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:26,520
Uh. You know. I feel
bad because it's been a real struggle,

1447
01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:30,439
But I go, boy, this
is where um you know, his mom's

1448
01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:35,000
handling all that shit alone. And
I there's a piece of me it feels

1449
01:44:35,119 --> 01:44:40,119
very guilty about that, but I
you know, they're just just go ahead.

1450
01:44:40,399 --> 01:44:45,119
I shouldn't. Yeah, probably it
probably shouldn't, but I'd like to

1451
01:44:45,199 --> 01:44:47,199
hear what you have to say.
Are you the one that picked up and

1452
01:44:47,279 --> 01:44:50,920
moved? No? But I did
allow I had to sign paperwork, right,

1453
01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:53,680
you know, so I had to
do that. I mean, I

1454
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:56,399
did agree to do that because I
thought, overall would be a just a

1455
01:44:56,479 --> 01:45:00,159
better situation. And I'm not sure
that was thought it was a better I

1456
01:45:00,520 --> 01:45:03,960
thought overall because there was other family
members there that would be a nice That's

1457
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:09,159
that's all. The circumstances being what
they were, that's that's that's awesome.

1458
01:45:09,159 --> 01:45:13,039
See. I just don't think you
should beat yourself up over it at because

1459
01:45:13,279 --> 01:45:17,640
not Yeah, because you're hearing Rochester
your home where you were on you were

1460
01:45:17,720 --> 01:45:23,920
on the radio, and when when
they decided to move in and this is

1461
01:45:24,119 --> 01:45:26,079
this is where you know, I
mean, what are you gonna do?

1462
01:45:26,399 --> 01:45:29,159
Get up and move to and start
all over again. I mean you've been

1463
01:45:29,199 --> 01:45:31,439
your third thirty five years. Yeah, I mean, And I don't want

1464
01:45:31,479 --> 01:45:34,520
to make this sound weird, but
it's just want I feel very bad for

1465
01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:39,840
him because I can feel like you
need this is where like you kind of

1466
01:45:39,880 --> 01:45:42,560
need both parents to balance things out
a little bit, and it's a lot

1467
01:45:42,680 --> 01:45:45,319
for her and I know, like
his brothers are all on him. And

1468
01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:47,039
I was dropping one of them off
of the airport this morning and I go,

1469
01:45:47,119 --> 01:45:49,319
hey, buddy, he said something
to me about it. I go,

1470
01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:54,159
yeah, the less you say,
the better. He's getting it from

1471
01:45:54,199 --> 01:45:56,840
all angles, right, He's getting
it from all angles. He's getting in

1472
01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:59,560
a school, he's getting it in
at home, and he should, he

1473
01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:03,119
deserved. He should. He's probably
gonna hear from his grandparents because they're coming

1474
01:46:03,159 --> 01:46:06,199
into town and that's what grandparents do, and they're concerned. And I go,

1475
01:46:06,359 --> 01:46:10,840
but his brothers should just don't say, don't pile on yeah exactly,

1476
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:14,319
just let yeah, you gotta let
it go. You gotta let it.

1477
01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:16,319
You gotta let it go, and
you just gotta you're talking. They gotta

1478
01:46:16,319 --> 01:46:18,640
call him a pussy at least once
today, Right, you're talking to someone

1479
01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:23,720
who's the youngest, So I mean, you know what I I just it's

1480
01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:29,119
been like good, oh God,
and then you know, and anything now.

1481
01:46:29,199 --> 01:46:30,960
And I think it's it's standard across
schools. I don't know how they

1482
01:46:31,039 --> 01:46:34,279
do it, like acquaintas and stuff, but I remember here the schools.

1483
01:46:34,279 --> 01:46:36,479
I mean, if you put hands
on somebody, you're out for five days.

1484
01:46:38,439 --> 01:46:41,279
That that's the zero tolerance stuff here. Has he put a disk arct

1485
01:46:41,279 --> 01:46:44,079
together yet? Has he? No? I don't know, I have no.

1486
01:46:44,279 --> 01:46:47,199
I think his computer. I think
everything was taken away computer phone also,

1487
01:46:47,199 --> 01:46:51,479
so it's written just produting. Probably
probably probably. But see, this

1488
01:46:51,640 --> 01:46:55,920
is the thing where now you can't
as you know, like when I got

1489
01:46:55,960 --> 01:46:58,159
into a fight at school, I
would go home, close my door.

1490
01:46:58,319 --> 01:47:02,199
It was over. There wasn't a
continuation. You couldn't find that person online

1491
01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:05,760
and continue to rip on them.
Or you couldn't get a bunch of kids

1492
01:47:06,159 --> 01:47:10,960
on like uh, I don't know
what it is, what's app call or

1493
01:47:11,039 --> 01:47:15,079
whatever where they're all on it or
discord where they're all on it together and

1494
01:47:15,239 --> 01:47:18,920
they can be chatting away and saying
mean things about you, and you're in

1495
01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:21,840
your home and you go back to
you're a kid. You can't to you

1496
01:47:23,000 --> 01:47:26,720
that's everybody in the world hates me, or everybody in the world wants to

1497
01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:30,079
kill me. That's not really true. I learned. It's a weird thing.

1498
01:47:30,359 --> 01:47:32,960
Kids are fucking mean. Yeah,
oh yeah, I'm learning this.

1499
01:47:33,439 --> 01:47:39,239
Why how do what are you seeing? Bust see I see all the time

1500
01:47:39,319 --> 01:47:42,039
just to way kids taught to each
other. Yeah, I have these two

1501
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:46,119
little girls on the bus tore my
favorite. I didn't realize they were troublemakers.

1502
01:47:47,319 --> 01:47:50,319
What were they doing? They talk
shit everybody. I gotta watch,

1503
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:54,600
I say, but they talk shit
that. They talk shit that everybody else

1504
01:47:55,319 --> 01:47:58,800
coming on the bus. They'll be
sitting there and then you'll see a look

1505
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:00,279
at some one of their kids fece
did I can't hear him, Yeah,

1506
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:02,840
And all of a sudden, they'll
just look at me with a smile on

1507
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:06,720
their face. And I didn't catch
on this till just recently. It's really

1508
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:11,319
funny. Have any of the kids
talk shit to you yet? You know

1509
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:16,159
what, It's really weird because I
got no Actually no, they don't listen.

1510
01:48:16,319 --> 01:48:19,079
There's a difference. They don't listen. But nobody's calling me fat or

1511
01:48:19,159 --> 01:48:24,760
told me. Yeah. I guess
the last person that was on that was

1512
01:48:25,000 --> 01:48:30,199
there. I guess they gave this
moment a hard time. So they're just

1513
01:48:30,279 --> 01:48:31,840
glad I'm there because I don't you
know, Yeah, I'm cool. I

1514
01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:34,279
mean, like whatever, you know, as long as you're not killing each

1515
01:48:34,319 --> 01:48:38,520
other and you're respecting each other,
I have no problem with that. So

1516
01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:42,800
that's funny. Yeah, kids are
mean kids. Kids are always gonna be

1517
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:45,800
mean and now with I mean,
I do remember a little bit. Social

1518
01:48:45,840 --> 01:48:48,920
media has certainly exploded, but even
more than his older brothers. One of

1519
01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:53,479
them liked a girl. Some kid
filmed them saying he liked this girl and

1520
01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:56,000
then put it on his snapchat,
so it was everywhere, and he was

1521
01:48:56,159 --> 01:48:59,800
so upset because he didn't want anyone
to know that he liked her, and

1522
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:02,960
now was just out. And how
many of us have all done just that,

1523
01:49:03,199 --> 01:49:06,199
We said who we liked to a
buddy. Hey man, didn't know

1524
01:49:06,359 --> 01:49:12,600
then that they're filming you right secretly, and now it's everywhere, so everybody

1525
01:49:12,680 --> 01:49:16,000
knows. That's the worst. I
but that's what I'm saying, like,

1526
01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:20,079
and that's where with Jamieson I go. I said the only thing I said

1527
01:49:20,119 --> 01:49:23,680
to his mother said to me,
you know what advice, and I said,

1528
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:25,920
I don't know, I'm not I'm
not there, and I'm very sorry

1529
01:49:25,920 --> 01:49:29,119
you're dealing with this. But I
would say, get all social media away

1530
01:49:29,600 --> 01:49:32,239
so there can be no other contact
outside of school, and if he's not

1531
01:49:32,319 --> 01:49:36,680
even in school, no contact with
anybody, because when there's no contact,

1532
01:49:36,760 --> 01:49:40,960
when there's no reaction dies, Yeah, when there's no reaction, it dies.

1533
01:49:41,039 --> 01:49:43,039
I mean, think about it.
Someone's being an asshole to you,

1534
01:49:43,560 --> 01:49:45,920
if you just say have a nice
day or walk away, it dies.

1535
01:49:46,359 --> 01:49:50,079
That actually is more powerful than fighting
back, because fighting back is going to

1536
01:49:50,119 --> 01:49:54,399
give him exactly what they want.
When you start mouthing off to somebody,

1537
01:49:54,880 --> 01:49:57,600
it's exactly sort of what they're looking
They were sort of looking for that,

1538
01:49:57,800 --> 01:50:00,279
right right. They want that or
they want to go see you are a

1539
01:50:00,359 --> 01:50:02,640
dick. Well, but if you
just stop, which I'm not gonna uh,

1540
01:50:05,720 --> 01:50:10,760
then you have more power. You
have more powers. You know.

1541
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:14,479
The person who speaks the least is
usually seen as the most powerful because people

1542
01:50:14,520 --> 01:50:15,680
go, what does he know that
I don't know? Probably nothing. He's

1543
01:50:15,680 --> 01:50:18,239
just listening, right, and he
knows better than to say too much.

1544
01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:26,079
That's all it is. Mark,
thank you so much for bringing in is

1545
01:50:26,119 --> 01:50:32,359
done. Dine in the homemade petato
checks and the homemade petato check and for

1546
01:50:32,479 --> 01:50:40,039
Kevin Muir, get ready to uh
do a little PGA and what are you

1547
01:50:40,079 --> 01:50:43,279
doing that? Tomorrow's I'm Bill Moran. We'll see