Win your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice, mix in some vodka
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driven by Victor Chrysler Dots Ju Bram. It's Bilified the Bill Moran Podcast.
Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on, Thanks for
telling a friend. That's how we spread the word. PGA week in Rochester.
Everybody's out there. Look what's trending in sports on Twitter's top one baby
Rochester. There you go, there we go. Yep. I see people
posting, Hey, I don't want to say anything, but looks like so
and so staying next to me, the rent of the house, good luck,
hope he makes the cut. And I'm like taste. People don't want
even you know what I mean, Like, what are you doing? Why
are you blasting this out there? Hey? Look who's my neighbor. For
the next couple of days, we got all the guys that are gonna miss
the cut. They all start on the west side. Yeah. PGA practice
around this morning pushed back an hour because of frost. Really yeah, supposed
to start at seven and they pushed it back to eight because of frost.
It was no frost this morning. I was up at four thirty to go
to work. Well, out there where it's the grass, it's low cut,
probably a little bit of probably it probably didn't have a slick little bit
of ice. And it's open right, so you're it's not trees. There's
no buildings around holding some heat. The cars aren't driving by, you know
what I mean. Yeah, So I do wonder if that's it. Does
that make us look bad in a way that there's frost here in May?
No? No, no, no no. I was more disappointed that John
Daly pulled out of the tournament. Must be we don't have Hooters in town
anymore? Oh, John Daily, John Daly? I think the last time
didn't he come from the Senior PGA. Yeah, rolls up in his RV
and usually wherever there's a Hooters, usually parks as RV and crashes there.
For well, there was no Hooters, so he went over to the Pitchford
Pub and did all kinds of cooking. He did like a tequila and taco
night or something. Was that the Ryder Cup? No, that was that
was like Senior PGA. Last time they were here, The Ryder Cup.
That was ninety five. I'll never forget. I went and picked up We
used him to pick up some English um a journalist, okay, and I
brought him on the ship. We brought him over there. I don't know
how they matter or anything like that. And all he got, all he
did on the air was bitch about my driving. He's like the all Americans
drive like that. Do you, um, do you have any interest in
the PGI not at all, no interest whatsoever. My mom was a huge
Tiger fan. She used to watch She used to watch golf all the time.
So that was the only time I ever saw him. Well, then,
I think it's very appropriate with you to play PGA player or a porn
star. Hell yeah, all right, I'll throw you out a name,
all right, and then you tell me is this person based on their name
alone? Yes, a PGA player who maybe in town for the PGA Championship.
Gonna have a lot of base. You're gonna do some fucking nibas fan.
That's what I always played in the background. I should have put up
that one. Uh or corn Star. Here we go, John Ram corn
Star incorrect. I'm sorry. John Ram is the favorite to win the PGA
champion number the world Spanish professional golfer. He was the number one golfer in
the world amateur ranking for a then record sixty weeks when he was an amateur.
Do you say amateur or amateur? I always an amateur. I always
hear these assholes going. He was an amateur uh and later became the world
number one in the official World Golf frankiees Is he still number one? Number
one? Now? He's projected at fifteen to two to win the championship at
okill and one of the masters. Good for him? Yeah, I'm rooting
for him now. Okay. He also goes to pound Town on a regular
basis. Yeah, with this music players where he rolls on a team.
This is Mark's doorbell for my closet. All right, you ready? YEA
Chris Strokes. Is Chris Strokes a PGA player or a porn star? I'm
gonna go porn star. Chris Strokes is a porn star according to IMDb,
boyishly handsome, it's all athletically built, goes by Chris cr i ss Strokes
and he's also gotten by the names of Chris Strokes, h R I S.
Are you looking him up? Is he Chris Strokes with an Axe,
He's got Chris No, He's Chris Strokes with cr Iess and then Strokes and
on and on on. He made his debut back in two thousand and six.
He has since been working for various studios and companies within the porn industry,
and is perhaps one of the most popular and reliable performers in the business.
His films include Oil Overload, fifteen, Jesus, He's Franchises, I
Tell You I Know right, Super Whores, and Chris Strokes is Mister Anal.
He was also number one on the put Putt Tour in eighty six.
All right you ready, yep? Ryan Madison, that's golf PGA player or
porn stars, I'm porn. He is an actor and director. He is
married to porn star Kelly Madison, known for such cinemastic master bacheurs. I
should know this ship as get my belt. Nothing compares and bad neighbor?
Is it all bal chicks and nothing compares? No, See they missed,
they missed the cow like porn on now is fucking boring? What are you
talking about? Fucking seventies and eighties porn was awesome? Why just a story?
There was more of a story to it. It was actually like everybody
was a fucking pizza guy. No, not necessary. Love to know.
Can you write the story of go get my belt right now? Oh?
I could write a good I could write a good porn. Well you guys,
well, you guys know that hang on out you could sure? Can
you write out of porn for the next time you're in? Yes, and
like make it though with different voices. So there's like, you know,
actor one, actor two, we would do. We would do the players,
but somebody's gonna have to be the lady. Should I bring somebody in?
No, one of us could be the Lady's gonna make it funny for
Danny all. Are you ready? Jason Day PGA player or porn star PGA,
Yes, you are correct. An Australian professional golfer plays on the PGA
Tour. He most notably won the Championship PG Championship as being played here this
week at Okill in twenty fifteen one yesterday he is h Yeah, he did
last week. He is a former world number one in the golf ranking and
I believe he is twenty to one odds to win at Okill. I think
don't quote me on that he's got Hurt Ramone Nomar PGA player. I'm a
Venezuelan born Spanish pornographic actor. He started his pornographic career rout the gage of
twenty three. He has worked with pornographic film producers, Reality Kings, Braziers
and New Sensations. Well, at least you know I'm not a pornell guy.
What are you talking about. I don't watch PARNELM. Well that's true,
that is true. But here's something I didn't know, and I didn't
know till I looked up Ramone Nomar. We've all heard of the cons Film
Festival. Did you know there's a cons Erotic film Festival? I think that's
the one they call Cans. Is that like the Porto Awards? He used
to have no avin. Porto Awards are real, but he I had no
idea that there was the Cans Erotic Film Festival. In nineteen ninety eight,
he won the Hot Duar Award for Best Newcomer Hot What did It's Like?
Hot? It's d apostrophe O r O such a Dwarf. In nineteen ninety
nine, he returned to CONS to award a Lifetime Achievement Award to Larry Flint.
Of Hustler. His films were Brunette and Bondage, Real Wife Stories,
and he won the twenty fifteen AVN Award for Best Group Sex Scene in Gangbang
Me, and in twenty fifteen he won the Best Three Way Sex Scene twenty
fifteen. Wasn't that around the time Slayton was doing the AVMs? Probably?
Yeah, yeah, Justin Thomas, this will be our final one PGA golfer.
I'm gonna go up. He's a heavy favorite for the tournament to see.
Twenty seventeen, Thomas experienced a break out year, winning five PGA Tour
events and the FedEx Cup Championship. He has won two major golf championships,
winning the PGA Championship in seventeen and twenty two. In May twenty eighteen,
he became the twenty first player to top the Official Golf World Ranking, and
he is sixteen to one odds. I think he's good buddies with Tiger too.
He's always the one screw with Tigers kid when they do those parents and
their father's son tournaments. Now, I was trying to think, is it
possible for you to look this up while we're doing this? I don't know
there huh is it pornographic? Well, yeah, all right, um,
oh, I don't want to infect your phone with anything. I'm just asking
like, well, I don't know if we should actually be looking up on
the Wi Fi year or not. Oh wait, wait, we just got
a special report in yeah, no gender bathrooms, individual galley style free for
all at the PGA from doctor Greg Connors. Doctor Greg Connor's checking in.
All right, very good, and it was incredible people incredible, amazing people
watching. Oh, I'm sure. And he sent us a taste. Oh,
I'm sure. I can't wait to see the taste. I can't wait.
It's gonna look like the covered Sports Illustrated. I'll just leave that right
there for now. If you know, you know, if you don't,
you'll find out a little while on the podcast. Sorry I interrupted you.
What do you mean to look up? Uh? What were like some of
the spoof Tiger Woods parody porn? There had to be because I was trying
to think, you know, we got the PGA here and some of these
guys like I'll tell you what if you quiz me and you said ramone nomar,
I'm going he's probably on the Lift Tour and playing in the PGA Championship.
I don't know. I wouldn't have no idea, and that's what sort
of made it fun. Uh. And then I learned about the the Erotic
cons Film Festival or would we like to say cans Uh. The first thing
that came up was horn Start opens up about her amazing sex with Tiger Who.
Yeah, but I thought there was like Tiger Woods. I know you're
trying to see, like, there's the Brady Bunch. Yeah, they have
a Brady Munch jacket girls like something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
something like that Brady Bunch parody where you know, Marsha and Gregor fucking
and you know how that stuffs. There was Oh yeah there's one. Oh
I didn't know it. Oh yeah, there's one where they get it on
with the Partridge family. Who got which one of the Brady kids got stuck
with? Oh that's so funny. That's not funny, but it's funny.
It is funny. But I was trying to see if they ever filmed a
porn on a golf course, and the only thing I could find was in
England on a on like a put putt course, they filmed the porn and
they just finished up before people started coming to play. Wow, Lewis's birthday
party is going to be a twelve thirty and they have any blue balls on
that put pot course that you said you thought seventies and eighties porn was better,
Oh yeah, and why I just think it's I just think the sex.
I think the sex is better. The sex was better, I think.
So, Okay, I don't mind the bush, I don't care.
Okay, but well, I you think I was more passionate. This is
almost more robotic. It's like more like there is this porn in it's in
its softcore porn. It's not hard. I guess that Tigers would. Tigers
would, Yeah, I mean that's what I was thinking, Like, there's
got to be a couple. I couldn't. I know there was, I
couldn't. I forgot to look him up, but like Tigers would or or
Busted Glass or the Back nine or whole nineteen, Tiger's Whole nineteen. I
don't know. Uh So, back in the seventies and eighties, there was
a guy named Harry Reims. Yeah, so I'm talking about he was in
one of the best pornos I've ever seen. Harry Reims is It's called still
stand by one second, go back to Harry Reims because I could tell.
Uh, Let's see Tiger plays eighteen hos Clappy Gilmore, Shanks and Skanks Baby
Got Back nine the Legend of Shagger Vans eighteen holes by J C. Two
Girls, one FedEx cup and eight Isn't enough. Oh and and Caddy Shag,
Caddy Shag. I did see that. Uh So Harry Reims retired from
Porne and became a born again Christian. Yes, and he lived in Park
City, Utah, where I happened to spend the summer many years ago.
Tell me you, madam, I did not mean Harry Reems, but he
kept his he like kept his porn name. He would is a realtor and
it was Harry f Reeves reality. Do you know he got in Greece he
died. No, Yeah, in the movie Greece The Coach, The Coach,
they originally Harry Reems. They got the power and they decided not to
put him in because he was associated with porn. Yeah, he would have
greed in that power. Anyways. His best movie is called Butterflies. It's
more a porn guy. It's one of but this is Swedish porn. It's
like some of the best sex scenes I've ever been the Swedish always overdubbed.
I'm telling you what. You looked this up. I'm gonna tell you what.
This is a good porn. You're gonna understand why. I like it
too. I remember buddy of mine had the Sweedish porn and it was all
I remember laughing at Starry because all it was it was oh oh yeah,
it was like it was a film an Ikea. I don't know. I
mean, all the girls, all the you know girls are Swedish, but
Harry reams and no Americans. So it was like and the fucking dudes the
man. Yeah, seriously, Yeah, I was like, man, but
I'm telling you there's a there's a sex scene and it's it's the best sex
scene I've I've ever seen. I don't care if this is nineteen seventy five.
It's called butterflies. It's called butterflies. Okay, go to you porn.
No, go to Yeah, I don't want to go to your porn.
I'm just gonna I'm just gonna type in butterflies and let's see what happens.
No, it's not gonna come up. You have to go to it
won't care for on that laptop. Hr watch is he r h e M
M E es M I think hang on, Yeah, no, it's r
E E MS Butterflies nineteen seventy five. You're right, Yes, it's called
Butterfly. Oh sorry, it's okay, Yeah, Harry reems Mark spits in
that one too well. Casting Oh yeah, this is nineteen seventy five.
Man, I'm gonna tell you what if you you guys have to watch this
and you guys will understand what I'm talking about. There is like a lot
of movies from the seventies where it used to be like a hard ar Now
it's just like a soft No, this is this is soft coren porn.
Yeah, okay, how did you see it? Everybody? There was a
I used to live over in Henrietta, over in Brighton, and there was
a video store over where the Bowling Yelly used to be over on uh Jefferson
Road. So I used to go in there, and I always wanted porn
on that met there was a story, the whole Hebrew video story. So
I found this and I was like, it was my, it was my.
It was awesome. And then the place closed I never knew what happened
to that movie. So when porn one came out on uh, I was
in a computer. I found it. Yeah, I watched it quite often.
What is this? Is there a story? There is a story?
Yeah, he is a womanizer? Okay, okay, yeah, and ok
all right, all right, yeah, this is you're gonna understand a little
bit of why like this movie. Okay, is it two dicks up?
Three dicks up? No? How do you? How do you review it?
Did? So he meets this girl out out and out and about,
and she's like, she left her home, she left her hometown. She
wanted to go to the big city. So, um, she's a blond.
You know, her body's a natural but it's a natural body. This
fake shit? Did I hate? Yeah? So seventies. He brings her
home and he has a girlfriend. Oh and he fucks sir. Well,
the girlfriend is home. Does she watch her participant? She ends up going
to know, she doesn't participate. She goes and gets off watching it.
And so this is why you like it. This is why, this is
how it all started. At well, something that he made from Mark for
his walls. Yeah, Harry had that. Harry had that amazing mustache.
Get the poster for your wall man. That was you know, Burt Reynolds
thing going back then, and you know, oh, come on, all
right, we'll take him over at last. A while back, a couple
of weeks back, we had a conversation about Juneteenth when you interrupted a parade
and you are accosted by somebody. I'm gonna call it accosted because I listened
again, So you agree with you you were accosted. Yes, I know.
Danny agreed with me so well. While I was trying to take it
from the standpoint of we were playing Devil's because I don't know about Devil's advocate
as much as trying to be somewhat empathetic to something that I don't know that
we fully appreciate or understand being who we are. Does that make sense?
It's a don't I know, it's all horse shit because I didn't know the
pread I got you. So there was a guy who's listening and he used
to be a fan of the break room. His name's EJ. And EJ
is just a guy. He's a black guy. He lives in Wayne County.
But he's a guy that I always found I like the way he he
thinks, and he reads a lot of stuff. And he said he wanted
to talk, and I called you first to make sure that we weren't like,
I don't like to sabotage anybody. You can burp in the microphone,
it doesn't matter, come out. And uh so, so he's gonna come
on next and we're gonna play back. I want to play back, um
you talking about the parade and not knowing, and then a little bit of
the video audio and then we'll talk to each Okay, that's all right?
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It's not a special this month. Okay, it's called the dime the don
and tell me what it was. The bread is phenomenal and there how much
meat was? How much meat was on there? I'll tell you what.
That was a fantastic sandwich. And I didn't know they had homemade chipps.
I'm a huge fan of the homemade ship. And I tell you about the
homemade onion rings. No, hold, why do you hold out? Hold
on? There's because a lot of times you go and get onion rings they're
frozen, right, and then they dropped them in a fryar and they come
and they're okay, there you're you're not a Rochester. You'll you'll get this
one. There was LDR Charpet. Do you remember LDR Charpet. I remember
the name. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yes. They were
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started doing a bTB and it's the same. It's the same onion rings LDR
head back in the eighties and nineties. I love this. It was It's
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like, and I know a lot of people say they're the foods phenomenal.
The food is phenomenal. Yeah, I am really impressed by everything I've had
there. Pizzas are great, but this sandwich is like, I mean,
I wanted to bring something different this. We're doing pizzas. Yeah, so
I said yesterday I go I'm gonna bring the down. So this is a
special for the month of May, yes man. And also beef on weak
is a special for month of May. Right, and then you've got those
drink specials like the Spring Sprits with the blue chair coconut rum and cinnamon rum
and cream and lime juice top with clubs. So that actually sounds really delicious,
right. It's like, man, it ain't just go there and just
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your podcast. Smiff this, Sniff this. So Mark On not that long
ago, and he explained to us something that happened when he was working at
the liquor store in the city. And this is the story that Mark told
us. I an incident happened to me a couple of years ago when I
was going to work at Red Front. Yeah. Um, it was the
June. It was the Juneteenth Parade, and the parade wasn't wasn't supported by
the city, so they did it them So they did it themselves, and
they got bikers and stuff like that. Well, I was driving up Andrew
Street to go to work and I went through the parade. I guess,
I don't know, but I don't. I don't know what I did.
I still don't know what I did. This guy, to this very date
says I disrespected. I don't know how I didn't. So I park,
can I go across the street and I'm going and I had these three guys
come up to me and they got a camera. Well, first of all,
I don't know who they are. I don't know what's going on.
What I did, all right? Then the videos still around. They posted
the video. We find it. I got it on my phone. Can
we play, absolutely, you can play. I'd like to play that video.
And I come off stupid, which is fine, Well that's not all
that different line castro. Come on, I didn't know what Juneteenth was,
okay, all right, So he didn't know what Juneteenth was, which I
thought it was very honest. No, I thought it was a very honest
thing to say. It's okay. I knew. I mean, I was
educated. I mean I knew what was going on. But you know,
when you have three guys standing there with a cell phone in your face,
you kind of you know, all right now, Um, EJ's on the
line in EJ is uh as we said, he's a black man who lives
out in Wayne County. But I always like the way he thinks. We've
had conversations in the past when I was part of the break room, and
I've always been a big fan EJ. Do you mind if I play one
more piece of audio, and that would be the camera the guy filming Mark
absolutely go ahead, all right, here's the guy that came up to Mark
with the camera. Can go anywhere. Here we go. I'm getting out
of my car. Marks, give it a little narration there. No hello,
sir, remember me? Remember me? Just a second ago you out
a barber in the trophy. You have something to say. Now you should
be celing. You know what today is. Guess what I know where you're
going. We can't just have a little conversation. Sure it is June teeth.
You are very rude. Thank you. Celebrate June teeth. Be a
good white person, good white person, celebrate can celebrate j You know what
June teeth is? Oh yeah, what is your teeth? Why? What
does that mean? Because if I fucking pisses me off every time, no
like generically could be in what is June te um? Where you? June
teenth is with black folks, deerate white folks like you unknowingly, quicknowingly,
littentionally and on your birth were rush. Okay, if you understand, we
don't try to give me a house. I'll get yourself. Kathy Jones,
Kate spread it on the other white people, all right, so e j
yeah, uh, let me let me start here, which isn't probably where
you think it may start. M but June teenth. Yeah, it has
been celebrated informally, I think since eighteen sixty five. Yeah, I believe
sixty six technically, okay, okay. And then I believe that the State
of Texas in the late seventies or early eighties made it a state holiday observed
it. They were the first ones to actually observe it as a as a
holiday. But I will tell you that I don't remember. I don't know.
Did you go to public school, yes, did you remember learning about
Juneteenth? Oh? God, no, no, no, no, no,
no, okay. So that's where like I think that one bad that
we didn't write because it is certainly something that should be celebrated, and yet
at the same time, I don't know that we can. I mean,
I like to think that ignorance really isn't an excuse, But I feel like
Mark didn't know, and there was no formal marking for the parade, and
that gentleman did get kind of aggressive. All of that seems correct, Okay,
all right, but what would you say to people? What would you
say? Because I think I thought, I don't want to put words in
your mouth. Mark, But One of the things that bothered Mark was that
that guy was saying, like, go tell the other white people. And
if we said that, I guess, I guess EJ. If it was
the opposite, if it was me and two other guys surrounding a black man
with a camera, I think that was more would be more of an issue
than those three surrounding me with a camera phone and humiliating me. I guess
that's that's my issue. You know, Um, I worked on Clinton Avenue
for three years. You know that that guy's that guy, he's a lawyer.
He doesn't go on Clinton Avenue. I spent more time on Clinton Avenue
than he as. So it was like I felt like I was targeted because
I was a white guy. So, um, your name is Mark.
Okay, yeah, so Mark, I want to actually start a little bit
off topic really quickly. You mentioned that you had been robbed some time ago.
I was robbed a month ago at the liquor Star that I ran.
Okay, so this is this happened to you presently? It happened to you,
um several years after ja yeah yeah, okay, yea. So my
first question to you one is have you sought any counseling on that trauma.
Yes, I have a good, good good for you. See. Now
it's funny. It's funny, say EJ. Because I don't know if you
I think I said this on the air. It's like to this guy that
did it, it was no big deal to me. It's carried on for
two years, you know what I mean? Oh no, he's asking you
about the You're asking about the robbert right, the robbery. Yeah, oh
yeah, oh yeah, the robbery. Um, I can't even work and
I want to go work in an other liquor store part time, and I
couldn't. I couldn't even do that. And so yeah, the reason I
want to start there is because one of the things that that jumped out at
me when I was re listening to the segment um apart from the show today,
was you are clearly going through some PTS D type of actions, and
the speech and the speaking that you demonstrated in that moment was a person who
was dealing with being traumatized by something not only presently you know it happened to
you a month ago, but then reliving constantly what happened to you a couple
of years ago. So you basically were reflecting on a humiliating circumstance through the
lens of present day trauma. Do you understand okay, right, all right,
all right, that seems pretty deep, But I got it, He's
got all right, right, Okay, yep. So I want to get
that out the way because oftentimes I think when we talk about situations and circumstances,
we try to act as if these things occur in a vacuum. And
Bill said something very important that day when you all were discussing this. He
said, you do not know what was going through that brother's mind when he
approached you. Now, that does not give him the excuse to have approached
you in such a way. But I will say this. There is a
elder in the black community now an ancestor for us, meaning she has passed
away. She used to constantly state that for Black Americans, we did not
qualify for mental health, meaning our mental state was such, was in such
a degree degraded because of what we constantly went through um with racism and other
aspects of this society, we did not typically have good mental health. Right.
Well, I think that you had a trauma on a whole race of
people that, honest to God, could take five hundred years to work out.
Yeah, I mean, and you you are beyond right. There's some
recent science over the last about thirty or forty years that prove you absolutely right.
Yeah. I remember reading something that's where I came up with something to
that effect of you know, when you think about it, it is the
it is the trauma, but you can also see you know, I don't
I am going to jump in here, and I don't mean to be rude,
but when you when you we play the camera piece right, and I
hear that again, And what sticks out of my mind, EJ is that,
first of all, nobody of any I don't care what shade you are,
likes to be talked to, almost talked down to, right or in
a humiliating way. And when you're trying to bring something that some people want
to dismiss or may not know about, or may even say you're making that
up, June teeth, come on, you're making that up. You can
see where people would say that it's they're not, but that you could see
it. And it makes me think back to doctor King and now doctor King
always seemed to just be very firm, but very cordial in his language.
I don't. Maybe I'm using the wrong I had a very calm way that
I feel like if the guy came with him and goes, hey, we
were trying to have something here. I'm not sure if you're familiar with it,
what Juneteenth is, it's the Emancipation Day, and just told you.
I think it would have been like, oh my god, I'm so sorry
I would ever have done that. And instead you've got somebody who he can't
even keep the headphones out of get so mad he got to see him nor
headphones off. Mark. I will, I will. I want to say
also that for you in that moment, I think you were wronged, But
so I think he was wronged. I think there was a um there.
There possibly could have been a better way of approaching that situation. However,
I will also say this, Mark, I'm imagining you're from the area.
Yeah, Mark, grew up around here, right, Yeah? Okay,
So are you familiar with any people who, let's say, have white colored
skin, who might have an attitude with a group of black people on the
street celebrating something that is not ordained by the city government. Oh? Absolutely,
Okay, So do you possibly think maybe that whereas you are wronged.
You may have been a target because other people who they might have done the
same thing too, who had disrespected them, had sped off. Yeah,
oh absolutely, yeah yeah yeah. So you would like, are there an
apology or something that makes this right? Well, I under I ran into
this guy. I don't know if you heard that story. I mean,
I know who the guy is, now I did you probably know, I
don't know. You might know who he is. I do not know who
you Okay, So what happened when you ran into him? Just for he
was? Um? They were doing a food drive out out in front of
my store, and so I went outside and I went, only shit.
I went up to him. I shook his hand. Yeah that's what's going
on. And he goes this and he goes and he goes, oh we're
okay. Here I go absolutely, I go shook my hand this time,
and he looks at me. He didn't know what I was talking about.
He had. I don't think he remembers that incident. Well he may not.
He may not, and he may not have. You know what,
you might have just been forgive me, but just a white face man.
And so EJ's point, he might have been, you know, shit upon
in a way by some white people. Absolutely, and you just became the
white face. He didn't know. I worked at the liquor store. E
G. I spent three years of my life on Clinton Avenue and I and
I love that job. I wish it didn't end the way it did.
I love the job, I love the people, I love that neighborhood,
and I just you know what I mean. He didn't know who he was
talking to. Like I said, I probably spent more time on Clinton Avenue
than this kid ever has. Yeah, you know I would say to you,
I would say, be very careful with that because there are there are
places in Rochester. I bet you he could go and have spent more time
in than you had. Sure. Now I want to also bring up the
idea of him not shaking your hand, because this was in twenty twenty one.
If I remember what I said, you and I are on the same
now. But you did you hear what he said my dirty hand? YEA?
Hang on again, I hang on. I want to I want to
reinforce one thing to you when it comes to what was happening with COVID,
specifically in the black community. Yeah, he had a disproportionate this proportionate number
of people on the front line. Therefore, a lot more black folks were
catching the disease, major sickness, major death. There was a story that
came down. It was out of the Midwest, and this was not a
lone story. I run multiple of these, but this one jumps out in
a week's time. This woman lost her husband, her four children, and
her mother. Jesus. So, yes, when he said your dirty hand,
that is what I there's not a better way to see that. There
is absolutely no, there's three hundred there is absolutely three hundred fetter ways to
say that. But you know something, at that moment, he didn't say
all any of those three hundred. No, at least dirty pot of my
face. Now, Mark, you do not strike me as a bad guy.
He's not. No, I'm I'm okay, I'm no, I'm not
at all. So let me help you. Soft. I don't mean that
he's just a soft He's just a sweet guy to because the um. But
But my thing is, like I always think that Mark, Mark genuinely Yeah,
he can't be mean. He can try. He can say something and
he goes, I'm sorry, I didn't mean that. That's Mark, you
just can't Mark. Well, then Mark, you learned. You learned a
very important lesson with this, my man, people have bad days, and
oftentimes in the hood, black folks aren't allowed to have bad days. You
you mentioned something in the original Um conversation. You said, I wasn't sure
if I was going to get stabbed or shot. I mean that kind of
a neighborhood, O, that kind of a neighborhood, That kind of a
neighborhood, My brother, I could be in a white community as a black
man and have somebody pull a gun out on me and shoot me dead.
I lived in Wayne County. I grew up in a place called Lions in
the late nineties. In the late nineties, there were three murders that occurred
between white kids. One guy stabbed another guy over a girl, and then
a year and a half later, the two girls who the fight was originally
about, one of the girls killed the other one by crashing their car into
it. So I understand where you're coming from with the idea. Man,
No, three guys, three guys in the neighborhood is rough came in surrounding
me. I didn't know who they were. And you're right now, let
me tell you a quick other story about me. In two seventeen, early
twenty seventeen, after Trump was sworn in as president, I was walking.
I now live in Auburn, New York. I no longer live in Wayne
County. But I was right. Actually I'm not that far from the prison.
It's funny, but so I was walking to one of them, one
of the local restaurants, and three literally not making this up, three white
guys. I was on my way, walking towards an intersection, and these
three white guys were walking towards the same intersection. I could see them.
At first, I couldn't hear them. Then I could hear them, and
the things they were saying, let's just say they were very suggestive. I
knew what they were talking about. I passed them. They started following me.
Now, thankfully, I was on my way to a very lit area.
They started calling out some names. I'm going to imagine you could picture
or you could guess at least one of those names. They called me that
name several times. Something I'm called the de liquor store everyday. Racial names,
yeah, I don't, but I'm just what he's going in and easy
disrespect, and I hate and I hate that that would even happen you,
that someone would even speak to you that way, because I have I just
I look at either a good person is a good person or a fucking asshole
as a fucking asshole. So my whole point is that pisses me off too.
But when I worked at the liquor store, you know what I mean?
You know how many names I was called on a daily bassis because I
wouldn't. I wouldn't give him a because I couldn't. I'm fund him a
quarter because yeah, but hang on a second. Here here to me,
here's the fundamental difference. You you're taking it as a very personal thing.
I am not. I'm no, no, I should you should, right,
because it's you, and they're saying it to you so that I can
understand. Honestly, I'm not not well when I was robbed, but right,
But on the other side, that you were in a store they wanted
something. There was almost a trigger. This guy I was walking on the
street. He just happened to be a different shade of skinning. But I
saw that all the time in Clinton, people would walk down the street.
Jesus, they freaking uh, we're talking shit to them. Two Amish guys
were walking up Clinton Avenue. You shouldn't heard the ship that was spen inside
to that, but they looked funny. Yeah. But but but some of
the stuff I was talking, some of the stuff I came together I heard
with white people with what I'm just saying, with white people walking down the
street, a kid yelling and saying some racial things. But we gotta keep
button walking. Well yeah, and and and so did the black people.
For even now, right, most people would probably keep walking. They would
probably keep walking. Can I can I ask you a question? Because um,
I feel like a lot of this has been mounting for a while for
you, Mark, Well, I did spend I did spend three I did
spend three years in a you know, liquor store. So maybe, but
still, I feel like a lot of this has been mounting. So here's
the thing, um, how could how could this be healed? For you?
I want that guy on the air, Okay, I do. Oh,
I would love to get it. But the thing is is that and
I know how to get a hold of him, I don't want to be
the one to get a hold of him, though. All right, we'll
give me to them, bro, So wait a minute. So I asked
you, I asked you, how could this be healed? Your answer is
he wants to have a confrontation. He wants a confrontation with I don't want
a confrontation. Well, what the hell do you want to? I want
to know what he wants, not to remember that's the problem because he's will.
But that's a confrontation. When you're asking somebody, what, what,
why did you do this? It's a confrontation discussion. I don't want confrontation
and j hiving confrontation right now? Well okay, but well conflict right and
it would turn confrontational because he's the guy that at you and I know you.
You get all the talk since all right, you know why didn't mean
to come out his radio here's a radio show. Look, I'm not the
one sitting in your shoes, Mark, and I'm I'm certainly not the one
sitting in EJ shoes right, But the way I'm I'm seeing things. And
I said this on the original uh, when we had the original discussion,
that there that the white privilege. If someone called me honkey or whatever or
called me some racial name about my skin, marshmall, I don't know what
I don't know what it would be. I think I would probably burst out
laughing. It doesn't affect me in any way. But when you use the
term, when you use the term you know what I'm saying like or polar
bear or whatever. Do you know what I'm saying like? It doesn't It
doesn't have any real effect on me my life. But first of all,
I'm mold, I've already lived. I'm not I'm not trying to get a
job. But this is where if you look a certain way, uh,
you know, the names that he was called have such hate behind them.
The one that EJ's referring to, because I was gonna go, it's like
winning the Pooh with Tigger. It's not right, But that has such hate
henty that I mean, it sounds cartoonish to me. Now. I also
didn't have it said to me probably as often as you did, So I
don't know if all of a sudden now you start to get annoyed at it
very well, could you know? But I would say that the white privilege
part, where most people will go, wow, that's white privilege, is
bullshit. The only thing I'm saying is that it's easier to walk through Fairport,
New York, is a white guy that it may be as a black
guy because you may get a side glance. And or in my neighborhood in
Pittsford when I lived there right and all of a sudden there was a black
industry. There was like, Hey, a black guy moved in and I'm
going out. How funny is it? Because it was an anomaly, it
wasn't you know. And the other is if I get pulled over, like
I told you, then I I'm I'm not being searched. I'm not having
stuff taken out on the side of the road. All that now I have.
I've told the story where I left the Windfield and I was a DJ
and I was getting on the on ramp off of Winton to get onto four
ninety. I get pulled over by the city police and some girls were at
the tops. It's not tops now, it's all these down there, and
they said that some guy was harassing them. And this guy said I fit
the description and I needed to leave my car on the side of the road,
get in the back and go with him. And I was like,
what if I don't he goes, then we're gonna arrestue right here. So
I got in the car and on the way it comes across the radio.
The girls are scared. They just want to go home. Now that's where
I would go. I don't care. I feel like I don't know.
I don't know what if it was a black guy, would they have even
believed the girls then? Or they made you go? And look, I
don't know. That's scared the shot out of me. I'd never been told
I have to leave. I mean, that's that's a true story, but
that I don't know what would have happened if I were black. All I
know is this skin, and I know that for me, for most of
my life, it's been pretty nice. Now the Mark lets and I understand
I would be if I was in your shoes too, Mark, I think
I would be mad too, because from your perspective, you see us not
understanding or sympathizing with you enough, and that it seems like where on the
outside judging what you're going through. This is why I started off the conversation
with the question about going to seek help about this trauma, because frankly,
I think this stuff has been building up within you for a long time.
And as much as you said that you love working in the area. I
really don't believe that's decayed. AJ, we're going to disagree on that,
one man, But you know what I think. Yeah, I'm good.
No, I'm sorry, bill Um. I'm glad that we're going to have
to disagree with that because we can. But as a black person who has
had many white friends who have looked at me to say to them, I
don't believe you're racist, or I don't believe you have racist tendencies, or
I believe what you said there was correct. I can tell you a lot
of white people have blinders on when it comes to how they interact with other
people who are not white, and so what's happening here is not surprising to
me. Hold on a second, why are you shaking? Not just time?
No, wait, here's what I like, Here's what I'm thinking.
Let him talk. No, he's he's he kind of came to a conclusion.
Hang on, I don't want to keep cutting them out. You're good,
You're good. I want to know what you're shaking your head? I
can then how I see it? I read front Yeah, it was on
Clinton Avenue for fifty years. Nick Penna owned and I saw when my high
school to gather on the liquor store, and it's legendary on Clinton Avenue,
and Nick's been Nick the old Man's loved still loved there and people come in
and see him. When we had the liquor store, he'd set with me
and people would come in. Now everybody wants to talk about about you know,
Oh, we used to go there and we would eat this and then
stuff like that. I learned how m I learned one of my best um
how I changed in life was I saw another side of life. I saw
another side. I saw really really good people who just you don't, had
bad luck just like I had sometimes, you know what I mean? Really
good people. Yeah, And I developed a lot of relationships down there because
of it, you know what I mean. And I think at certain times
it wasn't a black white thing. Well I EJ. Here's what I was
gonna say before it was. I don't think Mark seesus is a black white
thing. I think Mark seesus as he was going to work. He never
meant to insult anybody, and he's pissed off that these guys came so hard
at him for something he would never do and they weren't gonna listen to him.
They weren't gonna take anything into consideration, and he's pissed off to this
day. And it wouldn't matter if those guys were blue, or if they
were white, or if they were purple, or they have to be black.
I think that's what it is. I do. I think with you,
it didn't matter. And that's that's a really good point, I really
do. I think you're just mad that these guys did this and that they
can say things like go tell your white friends, because you would never say
that back to them, and man if if it were reversed, and that
pissed you off, right, Yeah, that's the night they happened. But
these are the discussions that nobody had. Nobody That's why I wanted to do
it, do you know what I mean? Discussions I've had with people in
the liquor store about different things, and we've actually had discussions like me and
me and j are doing right now, and how you know what I mean?
I learned so much and they learned about me. They didn't, you
know what I mean. There's one guy used to community, used to come
in, the rich boy from Greece, you know what I mean. I
told him I live in a fucking closet, I know, you know,
so you know what I mean. So that was always kind of the joke.
But they're, like I just said, a lot of good people do
yes, Yes, a lot of good people and a lot just just people.
And there's people I miss, just people who were just living their life,
you know. And and there was you know, people who you know
sometimes you know, I'll just say it, there was you know, I
had a lot of the drug dealers would come in, Yeah, and they
were and it was always cool because I respect people that would come in my
store. Yeah. If they disrespected me, then there was an issue.
It wasn't a black white thing to me. There, I got you.
It wasn't I got you. J Does that sound fair? Uh No?
But you know, I completely, I completely. Look I after having so
many of these conversations over the last fifteen years twenty years of my life,
I understand where you're coming from, to trust me when I tell you I
do. But most white folks that I have these conversations with, they have
never actually delved down into the depths of how they view race, racism,
and especially people who they're interacting with. So there's a lot of things that
was said in the original conversation that truthfully they were they were traumatic triggers.
So he would just say things and I'm like, wait a minute, Okay,
dude's trying to be Malcolm X. Do you know what Malcolm X was?
Okay, Um, black folk, say, I would like you to
meet him because I don't think you would disagree with me the way he talks,
in the way he you know what I mean, he wants to be
a leader, all this did he dies? But Malcolm X is more of
a He was a guy who almost wanted to radical other people. Would that
be fair? No, no, no, no, no, no,
no, no, no, no, that's who that is, not who
Malcolm was. Yeah, I'm stalking a little bit of Malcolm. Malcolm was
a guy who said, if white people are gonna beat us, we're gonna
beat them back. He didn't say you white, No, Um, that
would have been there was another brother who actually wanted a MoU MoU in Mississippi.
Um, but that was that's a whole nother different thing. But um,
so look man, this is from my perspective. This is not me,
um trying to attack you on this. I want you I know,
so I'm really I'm hoping that you come away from this trying to get deeper
into why you feel the way you do, because this is not just a
one time traumatic event for you. This is a culmination. So I'm going
to disagree with you. I know you're going to just because that's that's when
you're going to say to me. But like I said, I'm going to
say this one hundred times, I worked in a liquor store that was ninety
percent black. No, that's my point. That's my point. You made
a mention of the idea, of the idea that or not the idea,
but the fact that people would say some pretty rough and tumble stuff to you
basically because you were white and you working at the store, they would disrespect
you sometimes sometimes. Now I had a wait, I had a bunch of
white Some of my white customers were the worst customers I ever had, though,
So it's like, it works both ways. It was like, I'm
not saying that it understand I'm not saying that it doesn't work both ways.
What I'm saying to you is with you being in that community with some of
the things that those folks said, as much as you say that they didn't
bother you as much as you say that you just kind of let them go.
I'm telling you you did not let them go, and I can see
it in some of the common that you have made. So look, at
the end of the day, we I want you, I want you to
really get some help with this trauma that's mine, you see, to get
help. But you're I'm gonna say this about I'm gonna I'm gonna say it,
just say it. This is what you are a black You are a
black man. I'm a white guy. You're judging me, and you don't
know anything about me and what my life is and what I've done. No
what what I think he's trying to say. He's trying to all the insults
that you had added up, added up to the point where you were sick
of it. No, not, no, not. I would still be
if I didn't get robbed, So I would still be there, all right.
I mean, it was the believe that I would go to that store
I've said marked down in a couple of weeks for a couple of times,
a couple of twenties, you guys can meet up at President City Brewery and
have a few I was proud. I was proud of that store. I
was proud of the nick pin of fifty years but he did there. I
was proud about everything about that job. EJ. We're kind of I like
this because I think it's never ever touched on. Amen. I don't think
we I can't think of anywhere where I've heard a conversation kind of close to
this. No way, I like that. But I feel like we've kind
of come to sort of an end for today. But I don't know that
we shouldn't try something again sometimes for real. Absolutely, Yeah, Yeah,
you're awesome, by the way. I like talking with you because i'd like
to I like the idea that there's a conversation because all my life, all
I have heard is we need to have a conversation. And I kept on,
how who who's doing? Who's Yeah when? So we haven't we have
a platform? Yeah, I don't know. People may get turned off,
but it's the tempt and that's what This is the most civil conversation I've had.
I mean, we talked and we listened to each other. My thought,
this is great. Okay. Yeah. The last thing I do want
to say, man Bill, is as always, Man, I love the
show. Uh, you guys are wonderful, awesome. I look forward to
every single episode you put out and man, just keep on keeping on.
All right, thank you, Eja, that was that. I'm a big
fan, you know that though. Absolutely, brother, Absolutely, we'll see
you later night, guys. See it all right? Was great. I
thought it was well, staying out we're still I thought we're doing. I
thought it was fine. I thought it was fine. But all right,
we're on two different spectrums. We're never going to come all right to that.
Yeah, I understand where he's what he's thinking, right, But of
course he's doing to think that well, because yeah, he has every right
to think that, and if I were him, I would think dead too.
Yeah, so then you sort of not as far apart as you think
you are. Maybe not. Yeah, that's all all right. Toronto Dental,
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and I think another Sports Illustrated she's a Grammy Award winning artist. And then
uh Sports Illustrated swimsuit model Brooks Nader. I think is how you say her
last name? The girl from LSU the won the championship in it too.
I don't know, I don't know if she's on the cover, she may
be in it. And these are just the cover people. And Martha's a
cover person. I mean, look at Ellie, miss Pearson and some of
the old swimsuit models from way back when they still look fantastic. Yeah,
and well they do, but so but those some of those were topless.
They would be topless in Sports Illustrated with their hands over the breast and I
just yea, oh god, I love it. Doug knows butterflies too,
No, the movie Butterfly from nineteen seventy five. No, I think we
head to discuss shouldn't one time dog? Actually, to be quite honest with
you, I told you about this moment. Yeah that's Helman. Oh my
gosh, Mark New York in the house what's going on? So if only
want they caught on the original nickname and then they turned into Mark the Soldier
New York. It should have caught on better. No, Menthed the Soldier.
You were Mark new York. That's what he called. We used to
hang out together a lot. That's used to call me Mark New York because
he liked all the New York teams, the Jets, the nick and he
was going to proclaim himself as Mark new York. And this is when we
were working at Kinney's together. And then I think he went into the radio
and that's your story that he used to promote weeze and do all this stuff,
and that's how we got Marked the Soldier. Yeah, I just imagine
Mark and Dog and on a Friday night at USA Skates getting it done.
Oh dude, you would hit the we would hit the barers man. But
it's two guys. It's two guys who find women in over seventy Yeah,
in their league. There, that's their league. That that's not out of
their league. That's right in the sweet spot. I all ages somewhere between
seventy and eulogy. That's what I'm looking for, Baby, Mark and Dog
running train at your local. We can all do the early Bird Specialist together.
I'm very disappointed that you're not more interested in Martha Stewart being on the
cover of Sports Illustrated. Yeah, she's I'm not a fan of hers.
She went to jail. He's us goods hated to where's their pants down under
their ass? Oh she's all right, Dougie doug where's the next comedy gig?
I don't know. I just sign up for the funniest person. Funniest
person I was. I I ubered a couple of people in the PGA tournament
today. I had ended out a couple of cards, some great guys,
just some of my comedy form. They loved it. H you know,
they got it running well out there, So it's not as busy for ubering
because people still have, you know, places a go, So I kind
of got dinged out there. Thirty five is when there were so many people
leaving. So h stories though, you know, like crew roll ups or
anything. I'll definitely pass along. Well, those are always good stories from
your uber uber passengers. But yeah, no, Pitchford is uh is buzzing,
I know for sure, and I think it's going to pick up as
the week goes on, Oh, without a doubt, Yeah, without a
doubt. Yeah, and especially probably later at night. Yeah, yeah,
it's only it's only Monday. Well I'm gonna go to the Ambered Wednesday,
so I'm only driving half a day. Um, and then I'm doing my
other stuff. But yeah, if there anything good going on, I'll definitely
get the old loop. I'll be texting you, all right, thank you,
Doug. You gotta have a great night. I'm disappointed that, I
know I would. I had a bigger reaction than Martha Stewart on the cover
Sports Like I haven't seen it though. No, it's not bad. I
mean it's it's it's tasteful. It's just uh, it's this. You know.
She was on the Today Show and I think that's odd. Okay,
all right, yeah that's confidence, baby, that's eighty one. That's eighty
one. I can have a nice conversation with you. I would be happy
to buy a cup of coffee maybe an after dinner to drink, but do
birthday? Birthday. It's kind of a strange. I don't know, it's
very strange. Strange because here here's the thing, like we're all supposed to
say, oh, that's brave or that's whatever, and how confident and it
is. It's all right, But I don't want to see I've seen another
eighty one year old, so I don't want to see that. My mom's
a little younger than this. I don't want to see her friends on the
cover of Sports Illustrated. That's just what I'm saying. I do not want
that my mom saying some pretty half friends your mom did. Yeah, come
on, did you ever hook up? I'm not going there. Did you
ever try to hook up? Not going? Yes, you just did?
I open the door. Can you just you went and you hooked up with
one of your mom's friends? How many times a lot? When you were
a kid, when I was seventeen, when you were seventeen, up until
up until what thirty forty fifty? You're still banging her? Yes you are.
Oh, last time we begged after my mother's funeral, after your mother's
death. Oh my closet at the funeral. Wait a second, So one
of your mom's friends, she comes, and you're the she's the shoulder you
cry on. Yeah, and then she took you home. I took her
back to my house, and my mother wasn't alive in there anymore, so
I could actually bring people back. She's the shouldering crab. You wasn't weird,
She wasn't weird at out by this, But you had a history.
Yeah, it was a long history, a long history. Yeah, so
this happened a lot for you. Yeah, it begin it's seventeen, Like,
this is your mom's friend who who made the move? You were her?
Oh? I did? You did? Yeah? And so how does
that work? Um? You just I don't know. I just threw a
couple of hints, and she told me I was disgusting human being, because
that's what she was supposed to say to me. And then then all of
a sudden it happened. I don't know if I believe this story, But
why would I lie when? Right? Right, hang on, I'm just
saying it's seventeen. I would have been so uncomfortable if one of my mom's
friends, because I didn't have the confidence at all. Like, I would
have been uncomfortable, right. I just wanted to retire. I just it
was her. What are you protecting her? Because I just don't want to.
I don't want to. Well, so so so waiting. So now
the story changes. This is what Mark, I got this. I think
I'm I told you I didn't want to talk about it all. We're talking
about it now. You're not believing me, so so you gotta taken advantage
of pretty much. Yeah, and it and it lasts. You don't believe
me? We can we can call my brother. Did it last over like
thirty years? Enough? Yeah? Enough? Because if I wasn't in a
relationship, you know, you would call her? Yeah? Was she single?
No? She was married? Yes? Yeh, that's interesting. We'll
take a moment because something somebody's in the news for having an affair, an
alleged affair, and when you go to this person's Facebook page, they seem
to have a very nice life with someone else. But now it's it's out
and I and I and I will say that I think a little bit of
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if you had those hawks or falcons, like if the police got those in
addition to the dogs. Yeah, and then you sick that on somebody like
you had a bird fly at you, but this year you were holding the
police at bay with like a machete or even a gun. Right, instead
of shooting the guy, even with non lethal force, would just fly that
hawk at his head and you just hear him scream and drop everything and go.
That would scare the funk out of me, right, I think I
hate birds. Yeah, that's what I think. I think that would be,
uh the way. I think that's the way to go. I'm still
drunk. I think I think that I'm surprised they haven't done this already,
because we I swear to God, back in the old English days, the
Kings had these hawks and things, and I think they were used for I
don't know the various reasons, parts of war and stuff. So in the
news today is this nice looking lady. Her name is Lisa Faulkner. She's
fifty six years old. She's got a part time job as a as a
cook at the Livingston County Jail, and she's been arrested. Mark, why
do you think Lisa falk fifty or Faulkner, excuse me, fifty six was
arrested and she's only a part time cook at the Livingston County Jail. What
would she have been doing that would have gotten her arrested? I'll give you
many things. Okay again, d d wi Okay, all right. No.
According to deputies, she was having a romantic relationship with a prisoner and
it included one incident of her inappropriately touching him. It was also alleged that
Faulkner brought an item into jail which was given to the inmate. I don't
know what that item is. I would consider contraband, that is what I
would think. During the investigation, they said that Faulkner alerted she altered evidence
once she was aware of the investigation happening. She was arrested and charged with
tampering with physical evidence, promoting a physical contraband in the second degree, and
forcible touching. That was the part I didn't get. How is a part
time cook going to alter evidence video? He's had somebody like erased the video
camera. There's got a guarantee, in a prison guarantee, they've got cameras
to see everything. She found a way to get in there Livingston County Jail.
I don't know, I don't know what you know what she has access
to or not. And I wonder if she went in and tried to erase
whatever was on the video or got someone or asked someone to do it,
and they're going to say that would be altering evidence. That's the only thing
I can think of, because I'm like, you're a part time cook,
but don't really have access to much of anything. No, you don't,
But did you have access to the people and you could probably go into different
places, like you know, if of a sudden, like you know,
you lure the guard away, you tell your boyfriend, make a ruckist down
here, start yelling, and then the guard leaves and you run it in
your honest computer trying to race like a bad movie, you know what I
mean. That's what I'm thinking. But here's the part. That she's married.
She has all these nice picture looks like her and her grandkids on her
Facebook page, her and her husband. There's even a picture where her husband
comments, this is my favorite picture of us, and it's from like twenty
twenty, twenty nineteen. I mean, it's a couple of years ago.
But I go an, here's the bad part. There were times when the
Times of Wayne County we've done stories from the Times of Wayne County and people
get very, very upset. I have heard of people trying to go through
the different towns where they sell The Times of Wayne County and buy every episode
just so it wouldn't get out there. This is one of those stories where
I always go people go, well, everybody I know, everybody I know,
and I always think, yeah, okay, how many people you're really
close to? Ten This is a case where everybody you know and then some
is talking about the fact that you had an affair or wanted to have an
affair or something with a prisoner and are talking behind you and your husband's back,
even if they just sort of know you from back in the day,
if they're a casual neighbor, you know, three doors down. Because every
single every single TV station in the area covered this. Thirteen Wham Livingston County
jail Cook accused of having a romantic relationship with inmate. Ten NBC jail Cook
charged with felony after alleged romantic relationship withinmate. You can't get the fuck away
from this CBS Channel eight. Jail Cook accused of inappropriate relationship with inmate.
And I didn't even bother to look at Spectrum or anything else. But I'm
going you can't get away from it. No, it's everywhere it is.
Here's my thing, you know now is always the joke if you um better
do something wrong because in our news it would be twenty four hours your name
would be all that's funny. Yeah, I didn't even think of that.
Ye. Yeah, well back back when they're real. Yeah, when they're
real, when they were real, we're a real news channel. They still
do news. Yeah, time five minutes of local and twenty five minutes of
CNN. Yeah. So here's the part that I started to think about.
Yes, eg, I'm bitter about that. I'm bitter about our news too.
Could you imagine if that was like your wife, like you find out
that it's the part time. I mean you, how how are you finding
this out? Maybe you had to go pick her up from jail and you
find out. But then it's all over the news, like you can't get
away from it. You as the husband, you can't get away from it.
But when it comes to like somebody cheating, who's to blame in your
opinion, who's to blame? Well, the person and cheats is to blame.
But there's always the reason why they cheat, So there could be you
know what I mean, Yes, like I never cheated before? You have
I cheated? You? Have you ever cheated on a snoof another? I
never have? Uh? Probably when I was young, what like college?
College? Yeah, I just I mean I think at college, I I
had a girlfriend at home and two on the road. I had no girlfriend
up here. I don't know, but I mean you were like nineteen twenty.
Yeah, you know what I mean Again, Wait a minute, I
really got to backtrack my saying right now, why you cheat? Because when
I was at CMF, remember we would we would meet all these girls and
I had a great I had a girlfriend. Yeah, but would you do
not much? It was thought about, okay, all right, but that's
different than actually doing. But I was thinking, like, I go,
what is this, What is happening? What's missing in this woman's life?
Like for her, this is the perfect thing, right because I bet you
out in the real life. I mean, she's on her Facebook page age,
the mug shots, I mean the mug shots, the mug shot on
our Facebook page. She's a very pleasant looking woman and smiling, kind of
pretty, you know, like mid to late fifties. Okay, you know,
probably not a lot of excitement romantically going on in her life, right
even with her husband just probably isn't. Now all of a sudden, here
comes a prisoner that's coming through the food line or whatever and just goes probably
says, I love your smile. I mean, it could be something as
simple as that, or there you are with that beautiful smile. You know,
somebody with a personality that's I mean, it's the county jail. And
we're not talking about state prison. It's not you know what I mean.
Starts with a couple exentertainer todds and like, I just wonder, how does
it? How does that work out? And I think it starts with a
little bit of flirt thing and then it's like the bad boy thing and I
shouldn't be doing this And the next thing, you know, and who knows
what really happened. All it's called is inappropriate touching. Why don't you give
him a hand job through his pants? Maybe? I mean, who knows,
Well, we don't know what it is. The headlines say romantic it
could be, but but it, man, it's fucking everywhere. Do you
stay if you're a husband? Donna call a husband? Uh, you know,
it's uncomfortable as that interview we did last week. What the guy.
I love that guy he got so mad at me called me back and he's
yelling at me. Why I called him compan down? But we were not
what you were nice to him, all right, but we could we I
know that Kevin had reached out to to Lisa, and I figured there was
no way Lisa was. I didn't Yeah, I didn't think and I don't
think her husband would say anything either, Because this one, I feel like
they probably got something. They probably have them making out on tape which could
be considered inappropriate touching even probably not supposed to friend. Yes, it's a
prisoner. I'm just more looking to find out from the husband than she cook
at home. She part time cooking the down part time cooking at home.
How does has happened? You know the whole thing at Dana Mora, Right,
you got this seamstress with two really bad guys and she falls in love.
But she said she was in love. She was gonna take off of
them. They were gonna kill her husband, and she was gonna take off
of them, and she chicken out at the last minute. She didn't pick
them up. They came out the manhole or whatever, and they weren't there,
and so then they were on the run. The whole show. We
had that, that whole website. I mean, no, the prisoner.
That's where you get to write a prisoner, right. You don't think that
I'm writing for so long that I don't want to Eventually it's away and it
gets a little sassier each time, saucier. No, they get out.
This is no, this is this is different. This is you're hired to
work in the prison. I'm sure you're given all kinds of teaching on you
don't fratnize with the prisoners. Hey, these guys are gonna be a little
inappropriate. Hey, ladies, this is what you need to be. On
the lookout for these guys, you know what I mean, they're all guys
in there. I gotta think that there's a whole bunch of upaganda that's coming
at you telling you to stay away from him. And yet what happened?
How did that contact between a seamstress and these really bad dudes could come together?
I get maybe the cook, but the part time cook, she's only
there what Monday, Wednesday, Friday. You know what I'm saying? Maybe
she took the job, and maybe she took the job to meet somebody there.
He's not a bad person. I can change him. I can change
him, like you're in there, you know, I don't know. I'm
always I'm always curious as to like whose idea was at first? And how
did it get there? You know, yeah, like how did somebody go,
I'm sorry, I'm married. That's a bad idea. You're a prisoner.
All of a sudden, it's almost like, oh, like you know
that whatever he first said to her, she went home and she could not
get him out of her head. She couldn't right, and she kept thinking
about him, kept well, see that's the thing. And then you know
what happens. The husband's not paying attention. He's fallen asleep in his chair,
he's become very boring. Everything's wrote, he leaves his socks on the
floor, he's got a for he asked, he stinks in the morning.
She's sick of it. And now she's got this prisoner right there at work
and done. That's I'm telling you. I swear to God that's how it
happened. I swear he may it makes sense, Yes, yes, I
would rather have her as a neighbor than another guy from three one five who
would not come on, very upset with us. He Uh, his name
is Chuck la Maagra. Do you know Chuck? Please tell me you know
Chuck? All freaking man, oh man was here, he'd be freaking losing
his mind. Do you know Chuck Lagally? Are you kidding? No?
If it's the same guy, how old is he? That's I got to
be him? How do you know he's a He was a promoter for UM
for U hip hop bands. Oh my god, I think you're right.
Yeah, you know he was. You know who he is? Oh my
god, Yeah, I only know that because I went through his Facebook page.
Sure he's a fat guy, right, yeah, yeah, that's him.
Oh my god, Matt, Matt, Matt would be dying right now.
All right, So Chuck, So Chuck. I was trying to get
him to come on. Chuck got arrested. He got into a dispute over
a property line with a neighbor, and then he threatened to put a bullet
between the guy's eyes. Oh that sounds like him, though, it sounds
like something he said it Titanic. Oh, he used to run titan I
used to do shows a Titanic used to Yeah, but I think he actually
worked at Titanic. To be quite honest with you, It's like I go,
if if a neighbor threatened me like that, I think I was just
like, all right, you're an idiot. But I swear to God,
if I were still married and my wife heard him say that it's in,
you gotta call the police, he can't say that. That's what it would
be, right, And I wonder if that's how. I don't know if
somebody overreacted. But he has been arrested. So I reached out to him
on Facebook and we went back and forth. This was yesterday and then again
today, and then today he said, I think I'd rather talk to my
lawyer first, because sometimes the Times Wayne County, all they're taking is a
police blotterer. It's not that they're making things up. They're not, but
they're just taking a police blotterer. So I don't know that there's so there's
usually another side to the story. Well, sure, what they're getting is
is they're getting the one side they're getting. Yeah, they're getting the the
call that's sent in. That's why they're doing it. They do that in
the grease page so I let's see Chuck. I wrote, Chuck, my
name is Bill Moran, any chance we may talk to you on the podcast
about the Times Wayne County story. So he goes, please send me the
article, and I wrote, you didn't see it? He said no.
I said all right, and he goes, ps, I don't see it
on their Facebook website. I go stand by Chuck and I sent him the
article and then he writes back, the only way I will say anything is
if you quote me word for word and not twist. The article is completely
wrong. And then all of a sudden, I get umffers are terrible track,
followed by white pieces of shit, followed by who wrote that article is
my picture included We're already moving to Florida. Go fuck yourselves. This is
uh. Then somebody writes this is Anthony. Y'all need to leave Chuck alone.
Pussy, stay pussy. That's why you all have jobs you do right
New York disease, and then he writes that was my son and wasn't meant
for you. I don't. I said, look, I'm writing I'm not
trying to hurt you. I'm just trying to see if there's another side of
the story and get you on the platform. He goes, what's the platform.
I said, that's the podcast. So then he was was my picture
included? And so I sent him the picture and this is Is this the
guy that you know? That's him? Yeah, it's a terrible picture,
but yeah, yeah, well it's his mudhot What would you have You ever
been threatened by a neighbor by a neighbor, well, I was a little
kid. Oh nothing, you yeah, most of the time it's nothing.
But here, let's dispute on a property line, like I don't can't put
a tree on the line. It's over like a fence had it. Yeah,
it's unless trip I gotta or they're saying to you, this is your
property, you need to mow it. I'm only mowing up to here.
Hey it looks bad. It looks like it's our yard, but it's not.
We're not touching it. I mean, people can become pedantic over that
ship. But Chuck's gonna put a bullet between somebody's eyes. I would rather
live next to Lisa that I may say that to a couple of my neighbors,
just to see the reaction. We put a bullet between don't don't do
that just to f No, they don't care. I can hear this fucking
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out earlier, and uh this is uh, this is in the seventy eight,
seventy nine, okay yo. No, it is possible that they didn't
hear it. Why would they say it, I guess no, I mean
I really do think it's possible. I think I think it's great. It
is great. It's just it's just so them that you couldn't tell. Can
you play her as real quick? Yeah? Lenna Ron said, you're no
good. Yeah, but it's very different. I don't. I mean it
is, but Lizzy, the fact that you didn't pick up on it until
the chorl the beginning, I'm hearing like it sounded like something off a diver
down. Yeah, yeah, okay, Lena Ron said, you're no good?
All right, hang on one second man one day when the day was
hot back in the day. Yeah, but see this I would recommend,
by the way, again, two songs we just talked about this. Two
songs that you can listen to totally different. Right then, are the same
song? Yesterday we did a thing with the same same title, different songs.
Oh okay, right, he said, think I think it's great too.
I love that this just sounds very See I didn't even pick up in
the beginning, like the guitar. I didn't even get We did the same
thing on Weesday Show, by the way, like thirty years ago. That's
nice that we can recycle bid for thirty years ago. That's fucking awesome.
Thirty years there's a limitation brand new now I just can't believe that he's not
around anymore. Yeah. Yeah, and then Linda's uh, watch like Linda
better watching this real hair looks like, wait a mate, you like Linda's
batter? Yeah, I don't know. That's like the more soulful. This
is a more soulful thing. This is more of country. Yeah, but
I hear like, Uh, I feel like she connects with this song more
than name. I feel like he's just singing it as a rock song.
I think you're connects. That's what I like. She's singing more. She's
coming more out of baby no good, You're no good. What did you
know about this guy Chuck who we just brought up from the Matt next week?
Yeah, but I mean Matt, Matt knows him well what he does.
Matt knows him real well. And man also has request for next week
too. He said the Yankees game, by the way in Toronto? Okay?
Did he did he catch batting practice? Real? I'm watching here?
Um he no, but Josh Allen is sitting in a sweep behind him.
Josh Allen went four deep four times in batting practice. I'm just watching really
real now, look at wow, Josh, He's a big guy, and
he wants to talk about certain somebody who was fired from radio. He wants
to talk about somebody that was fired for that was let go from radio recently.
Yes, Kanye, Yeah, what about him? He just what does
he want to say? It's a great story. It's a great story,
pretty funny about Kanye. Yeah. Is it embarrassing to him? To Matt
No, to Kanye, Yeah, oh it is. No. Maybe now
he doesn't give a fuck? Well, I no, I mean, I
don't, I don't. I don't know him. Well, I always liked
him, but we hired him. I don't want to tell the story.
I wait till mad it's all right, okay, all right, all right,
that'll tell it better than as a plumber. Yes, because he was
also a plumber. Yes, yeah, I don't know what he we hired
him. I don't know what's happening in ra. He did our, he
did Friday night happy hours at Bads to Billy's. Yeah, and we became
real good friends with him. Yeah. Yeah, I liked him. He's
a nice I always liked them too. Well. He hired him as his
plumber, and all they really went to shit. That's too bad. And
I wait a minute. And I'm not saying he's a bad plumber, right,
you heard, he's doing a lot of you know, a lot of
good work out there. But this is between him and bad. So well,
we'll see, we'll see a bad sting. Yeah, I have like
a dilemma that I know they're probably getting in trouble for you even talking about
a little bit. But let's do it nice. No, I have to
be careful because it's just one of these things where you never looked through your
life and thought you may necessarily be where you are in any aspect. Certainly
I never did right, Really, Bill, are you fucking kidding me?
I live in a fucking closet. But I was thinking more like you know,
my U when I left. When I left and I separated from my
wife, my older guys were one was like getting out of high school,
the other one was going to be out of high school, and so they
were their lives they're grown up. Was kind of over. But I still
have a guy who's much younger, and I've always felt there's a tremendous amount
of guilt, and anybody who's gone through that probably does. And I know
when I talk about these things, there are certain people that go, oh,
you're a fucking hero, could you. I'm not trying to be a
hero. I'm just telling you is somebody who's who's there. There's a lot
of guilt. So Jamison, who's my youngest, looks probably most like his
mom, but has has the personality most like his dad. And he h
he's out of school. He got suspended for five days. Yeah, so
I guess he was on the football team and then was gonna he was on
a football team, and then he was going to go for the school football
team and something happened and he goes, you know what, I don't want
to deal with these guys. He said, I want to try out for
basketball. So he was trying out for basketball and I think didn't make it.
Had never really played organized basketball, was going to go on to a
rec league. So I had been going to parks and things, and some
kind of scuffle broke out in on the basketball court and he says it wasn't
much of anything. But then the next day it's spilled into art class and
there was a kid who does not speak English well, he speaks Spanish,
and he was threatening him. And I don't know if Jamison could tell from
the tone or what. But I got video and there's video of this fight.
So Jamison walks up and the kid is like kind of coming at him.
Jamison puts his hands up the kid and kind of gets the kid by
the outside of his shoulders. The kid comes inside. That's his first mistake,
and then James the kid uh starts swinging. So Jamison keeps leaning back
and the kid's missing. He's like just kind of and he can see him
and he's almost sort of laughing at him, and he's missing. He's missing.
Well, then all of a sudden, he doesn't realize where he is
now. He kind of hits a table and he's sitting down. So the
kid's on top of him, and I think the kid got one punch under
his eye. He had missed all the others, but Jamison's just hitting him
in the side of the head, hitting him, hitting him. Obviously,
it gets broken up. They get out of there, so as his father,
I'm looking at the tape and break it down a fight of him.
Hi co this is the word fucking thing because I said to him, hey,
buddy, you gotta be you didn't hit me. Why I go,
I know, but you gotta know where your surroundings are. You end up
on the table, you'll almost lost at that point. Know where you are.
I saw the kid missing, I saw you moving back. I did,
he did. The kid was missing. It was great. He didn't
rend him for the fight. You had told him what he was doing wrong
and the fight for next this is the bad thing. And then I go,
oh my god, I go listen, buddy, I am kidding.
We should never put our hands on anybody. And he goes, well,
he started it. I said, I could see that, I could say,
and I know even just talking about this will get me in more trouble
with the family. But it is one of these things where, uh look,
you're thirteen. It happens. It's not it's not something so out of
the ordinary day. But it's not something that's so out of the ordinary.
Uh. You know. I feel bad because it's been a real struggle,
But I go, boy, this is where um you know, his mom's
handling all that shit alone. And I there's a piece of me it feels
very guilty about that, but I you know, they're just just go ahead.
I shouldn't. Yeah, probably it probably shouldn't, but I'd like to
hear what you have to say. Are you the one that picked up and
moved? No? But I did allow I had to sign paperwork, right,
you know, so I had to do that. I mean, I
did agree to do that because I thought, overall would be a just a
better situation. And I'm not sure that was thought it was a better I
thought overall because there was other family members there that would be a nice That's
that's all. The circumstances being what they were, that's that's that's awesome.
See. I just don't think you should beat yourself up over it at because
not Yeah, because you're hearing Rochester your home where you were on you were
on the radio, and when when they decided to move in and this is
this is where you know, I mean, what are you gonna do?
Get up and move to and start all over again. I mean you've been
your third thirty five years. Yeah, I mean, And I don't want
to make this sound weird, but it's just want I feel very bad for
him because I can feel like you need this is where like you kind of
need both parents to balance things out a little bit, and it's a lot
for her and I know, like his brothers are all on him. And
I was dropping one of them off of the airport this morning and I go,
hey, buddy, he said something to me about it. I go,
yeah, the less you say, the better. He's getting it from
all angles, right, He's getting it from all angles. He's getting in
a school, he's getting it in at home, and he should, he
deserved. He should. He's probably gonna hear from his grandparents because they're coming
into town and that's what grandparents do, and they're concerned. And I go,
but his brothers should just don't say, don't pile on yeah exactly,
just let yeah, you gotta let it go. You gotta let it.
You gotta let it go, and you just gotta you're talking. They gotta
call him a pussy at least once today, Right, you're talking to someone
who's the youngest, So I mean, you know what I I just it's
been like good, oh God, and then you know, and anything now.
And I think it's it's standard across schools. I don't know how they
do it, like acquaintas and stuff, but I remember here the schools.
I mean, if you put hands on somebody, you're out for five days.
That that's the zero tolerance stuff here. Has he put a disk arct
together yet? Has he? No? I don't know, I have no.
I think his computer. I think everything was taken away computer phone also,
so it's written just produting. Probably probably probably. But see, this
is the thing where now you can't as you know, like when I got
into a fight at school, I would go home, close my door.
It was over. There wasn't a continuation. You couldn't find that person online
and continue to rip on them. Or you couldn't get a bunch of kids
on like uh, I don't know what it is, what's app call or
whatever where they're all on it or discord where they're all on it together and
they can be chatting away and saying mean things about you, and you're in
your home and you go back to you're a kid. You can't to you
that's everybody in the world hates me, or everybody in the world wants to
kill me. That's not really true. I learned. It's a weird thing.
Kids are fucking mean. Yeah, oh yeah, I'm learning this.
Why how do what are you seeing? Bust see I see all the time
just to way kids taught to each other. Yeah, I have these two
little girls on the bus tore my favorite. I didn't realize they were troublemakers.
What were they doing? They talk shit everybody. I gotta watch,
I say, but they talk shit that. They talk shit that everybody else
coming on the bus. They'll be sitting there and then you'll see a look
at some one of their kids fece did I can't hear him, Yeah,
And all of a sudden, they'll just look at me with a smile on
their face. And I didn't catch on this till just recently. It's really
funny. Have any of the kids talk shit to you yet? You know
what, It's really weird because I got no Actually no, they don't listen.
There's a difference. They don't listen. But nobody's calling me fat or
told me. Yeah. I guess the last person that was on that was
there. I guess they gave this moment a hard time. So they're just
glad I'm there because I don't you know, Yeah, I'm cool. I
mean, like whatever, you know, as long as you're not killing each
other and you're respecting each other, I have no problem with that. So
that's funny. Yeah, kids are mean kids. Kids are always gonna be
mean and now with I mean, I do remember a little bit. Social
media has certainly exploded, but even more than his older brothers. One of
them liked a girl. Some kid filmed them saying he liked this girl and
then put it on his snapchat, so it was everywhere, and he was
so upset because he didn't want anyone to know that he liked her, and
now was just out. And how many of us have all done just that,
We said who we liked to a buddy. Hey man, didn't know
then that they're filming you right secretly, and now it's everywhere, so everybody
knows. That's the worst. I but that's what I'm saying, like,
and that's where with Jamieson I go. I said the only thing I said
to his mother said to me, you know what advice, and I said,
I don't know, I'm not I'm not there, and I'm very sorry
you're dealing with this. But I would say, get all social media away
so there can be no other contact outside of school, and if he's not
even in school, no contact with anybody, because when there's no contact,
when there's no reaction dies, Yeah, when there's no reaction, it dies.
I mean, think about it. Someone's being an asshole to you,
if you just say have a nice day or walk away, it dies.
That actually is more powerful than fighting back, because fighting back is going to
give him exactly what they want. When you start mouthing off to somebody,
it's exactly sort of what they're looking They were sort of looking for that,
right right. They want that or they want to go see you are a
dick. Well, but if you just stop, which I'm not gonna uh,
then you have more power. You have more powers. You know.
The person who speaks the least is usually seen as the most powerful because people
go, what does he know that I don't know? Probably nothing. He's
just listening, right, and he knows better than to say too much.
That's all it is. Mark, thank you so much for bringing in is
done. Dine in the homemade petato checks and the homemade petato check and for
Kevin Muir, get ready to uh do a little PGA and what are you
doing that? Tomorrow's I'm Bill Moran. We'll see