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So what do you guys want to
talk about? Hello, welcome everybody here

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we go Happy Friday. It is
my favorite day of the week, by

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the way, although not necessarily for
the same reasons that it might be your

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favorite day of the week. I
know a lot of people said Friday is

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their favorite day of the week.
It's my favorite day of the week because

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it's my long day here at because
I get to do this show and then

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I get to do Retrospectrum Radio with
Polyc tonight. So Fridays are a lot

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of fun here. So it is
my favorite day. So Happy Friday to

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you. It is Friday, June
sixth, twenty twenty three, and we

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are live from the studios of wm
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glorious downtown Manchester, New Hampshire,
although it's about to potentially turn into a

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very wet downtown Manchester, New Hampshire. We just had a actually, those

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of you listening live on FM radio
might not have even heard part of the

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beginning of the show because there was
an emergency alert because there's some bad weather

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coming in. By the way,
so there's been a trend recently. I

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was talking about it the other day
where the skies will get very dark.

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There will be some very dark,
threatening looking storm clouds outside, and it

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looks like it's gonna rain, and
then it just stays that way for hours.

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It looks like it's tatering on the
edge of a downpour, and then

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it never quite comes. But since
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I think this one might actually happened. So I'm glad I'm safe and sound

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in here. There were some pretty
dark clouds out there when I arrived at

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the station today, so we'll see. So I hope you're hope you're safe

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and sound where you are. I
actually enjoy I really enjoy a good summer

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thunderstorm. I dig it as long
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what I don't like the one thing
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one thing, I don't like getting
caught in the rain. I'm like a

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cat. I don't like to be
wet, and I don't like the way

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wet clothes feel. But I also
I don't like driving in it. You

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know, you ever have that where
you're driving along and you're just driving and

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all of a sudden, the sky
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you can't see where you're going at
all. That's not fun either, But

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as long as I'm inside for it, I enjoy it. So we'll see

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what happens. But if we get
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that'll be the reason. Although actually
that's I don't think that's ever really

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happened where we've had a storm knock
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looking potentially downtown at Manchester and Hampshire. But we are in downtown Manchester here

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at ninety five point three, also
on Comcast ninety seven if you are in

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Manchester, and hello to all of
our online listeners across the nation and around

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the globe. You can go to
my website Matt Connerton dot com for all

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of your live streaming options, social
media links, contact info, show archives,

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etc. Etc. A couple of
programming notes, Well, let me

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tell you what we've got coming up
today and also what we don't have coming

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up. Actually, i'll get the
don't part out of the way. We

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do not have today our normal Friday
segment with our friend Eric Pilcher from Cedar

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Rapids, Iowa. His film review. He did not submit one this week,

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and I suspect he's doing something,
you know, because he wants a

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shirt. He keeps putting out that
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shirt. I think he I think
he's doing what I think in Hollywood they

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call a sick out, where you
know you want more money. You're trying

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to get more money out of the
network for your hit television series, so

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you don't show up for work and
you claim that you're sick, but you're

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actually just holding out for more money. I think he might be doing that,

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which is weird because I actually don't
pay him at all, so I

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don't know. No, Actually I'm
kidding. I jest, I jest with

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you. No, he just had
a very busy week. He had a

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lot going on this week, very
very hectic, So he asked if he

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could skip this week, and I
said absolutely, because after all, I

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don't pay you, So there you
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he does have a lot going on, and he did promise the film review

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will return next Friday. But in
lieu of that, we do have something

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else exciting. Our friend Shane Ballen
will be joining us. He's gonna be

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calling in at the top of the
hour. And I also see him in

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the Facebook live chat. He said, thank you so very much for playing

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my new song string Pain Projection,
calling in at five pm. Yeah,

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the song that I opened up with
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believe from Shane's new album. Shane's
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You might recall a number of months
ago he was here in studio with us.

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He brought his guitar, he played
live, absolutely fantastic, got a

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ton of positive feedback on that.
Everyone really loved at Shane's amazing. I

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love his voice. Stude's got a
great voice and quite a songwriter as well,

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and he's got a new producer that
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all of it. So so I
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string Pain Projection. And as we
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when we get ready to go to
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I will play another song another one
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Uh. And then when we come
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and we'll we'll chat for a bit, and then of course we'll play another

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song at the end of the segment. But really looking forward to talking to

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Shane and getting caught up with him. And hearing all about the new album

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and his new partnership with his producer. Who has his producer has been on

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the show before as well, but
I will I won't say anymore because we're

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going to talk about it all in
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cool. I also played a couple
of other things related to today's news.

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I don't know if you've all been
paying attention to the news, but we'll

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get into that. Kind of a
big day, kind of a big deal.

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So there's there's a lot to do. And of course it is Friday,

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which means uh well if you're listening
live on WM ANDAH. Immediately following

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this show is Granted State of Mind
hosted by the Great rob as a Veto

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and poly Stone. And then I
am back tonight from eight to eleven pm

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four Retrospectrum Radio with Police along with
DJ Steve and Mike from Queen City Cabinetry

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and the four of us. We
have a great time Friday nights. Uh

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uh. This week it is another
game where Paul is going to play twenty

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five songs that have something in common
and we all have to try to guess

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what they are. So that's a
lot of fun. I enjoy that a

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lot. I enjoy that a lot. In the meantime, if you would

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like to join us, you can
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The studio line is open. You can

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text me at six one seven nine
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on social media at Matt Connerton.
You can email me Matt at Matt Connerton

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dot com. You can interact Endo
Pine in the Facebook live chat and we'll

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say hello everybody in there in a
moment. But the best thing to do,

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of course, so that we can
hear and enjoy your dulcet tones,

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is to give us a call at
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hello everybody in the Facebook live chat. Oh one other thing too, about

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programming notes. If you missed yesterday's
show, please go back and check it

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out. We had we had Fredo, and actually I like saying his full

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name. It's this fun Alfredo Enrique
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Fredo. Everyone knows him as Fredo. And of course Axel Axel Bagley from

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the band Dank Sinatra and Nate from
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had a great time yesterday. Uh
they got here a bit early, which

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actually worked out well, and we
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their album that's coming up coming out
I think the middle of July, but

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we got a sneak peak, so
it was a world radio premiere and it

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was a lot of fun. I
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missed yesterday's show, please go back
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a great band and great people as
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say hello to everybody in the chat. Mike from Queen City Cabinetry is in

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the chat, by the way,
I will remind you not only is Mike

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one of our co hosts on retro
Spectrum Radio with Paul ec he's also a

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sponsor of WMH ninety five point three
FM. Of course Queen City Cabinetry in

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the historic Sunbeam Mall. You can
bring your kitchen to life with Queen City

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Cabinetry. So Mike's a great guy
and of course an important part of WMNH,

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both in his co hosting duties on
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sponsor of the station for a few
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few years now that I'm thinking about
it. Let's see Isaac Banks from Greensboro,

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North Carolina joins us. Surprise,
surprise, Isaac Banks says, good

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afternoon, hashtag Matt high hashtag Jenny
Coffee, good afternoon, Good afternoon,

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Mike pellapita. How are you doing, sir? I notice that Mike from

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Queen City, Abnitary did not get
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That's interesting, and Mike kind enough
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and say I'm doing well, my
friends. Isaac Banks says ex President Trump

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Trump cannot win because President Biden is
the best man of the job. I

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actually wish, don't. I don't
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in the next term, to be
honest with you, for different reasons.

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But Isaac Banks also says Trump by
Trump hashtag Matt Connerton. Yes, yes,

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Isaac Banks, bringing the the sophisticated
political analysis that we all appreciate.

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Jenny, of course, is in
the chat and says shalom, peeps.

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Let's see. Jay fed from the
Great State of Vermont joins us and says,

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good afternoon everyone. Isaac Banks says
yesterday hashtag Matt Connerton it was a

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good inner Rhythm choir concert at Lindley
Park Baptist Church in Greensboro, North Carolina.

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Well, I'm glad to hear that. I'm glad to hear that.

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Shane Ball and I did mention is
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talking with him in the five o'clock
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Okay, this is related to the
emergency alert that went out a few

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minutes ago. He put this in
the chat. The flood advisory is replaced

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by a flash flood warning for a
portion of southern New Hampshire, including the

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following areas Hillsboro in Rockingham County.
Of course we're in Hillsboro County. Here

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in Manchester. The threat of flooding
continues and a flash flood warning is now

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in effect. Please refer to that
bulletin for more information. I remember a

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few years ago there was a flash
flood. There were parts of Manchester that

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flooded, and it was like,
wow, that doesn't usually happen. We're

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pretty fortunate here in New Hampshire.
Broadly, we don't have a lot of

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is rarely flooding here. We don't
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in the city. I don't know
anyway, There's there's not much that happens

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here that's hazardous. We're fortunate that
way, and we're year after year we're

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ranked one of the safest states in
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says also that I hope he reboots
his show. Is Charles Richardson show hashtag

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Matt Connerton. Yeah, I think
Charles is thinking about bringing his show back.

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Charmaine Davis Elliott joins us in the
Facebook live chat and says, good

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afternoon everyone. Good afternoon, Charmaine. Uh, let's see and uh Eric,

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I'm still not sure I'm saying his
name correctly, but Eric Nana Rone

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says good afternoon everyone. Eric did
share with us recently, and Eric always

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feel free to drop the link in
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Eric has a podcast called the Nano
Second Podcast. Nano is a play

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on his last name, which I
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haven't had a chance to check it
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I definitely will. Um. All
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again. And then we'll get into
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I was already off the air,
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so maybe that worked out for the
best. But after I left the air

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yesterday, news broke that the Trump
indictment was that Trump was in fact being

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indicted in UM in Florida over the
documents, the secret documents, and that

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news carried over in today. I
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I, uh, if you missed
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in their cars might not have even
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But I played some comments that Trump
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Clinton and the handling of classified material. But uh, but I also I

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did play the it was a brief, terse statement that Special Prosecutor Special Counsel

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Jack Smith, uh did uh present
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mean, you know, it was
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already been unsealed, so it's been
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today and uh, we'll see where
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of course, uh uh I'm I'm
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it. Um. But the thing
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details in a moment, but uh, you know, and I'm approaching this

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the same way, even though not
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for lack of a better way of
putting it, when when I was talking

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about the the indictment in New York, um that Trump had to attend where

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he was effectively arrested. H for
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you know, I don't know what
people expect necessarily, But I if you're

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a long time listener or even a
short term listener, you're probably aware.

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I'm not myself a big fan of
the forty fifth president. Uh never was.

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I don't imagine I ever will be. But but you know, I'm

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not. I'm not happy or excited
about this either. I mean, this

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is a terrible thing for the country
to go through. What I do not

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agree with though as as terrible as
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and you know, it's it's very
interesting. I was raised with the

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notion, you know, when I
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first started to learn about history,
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that Gerald Ford, President Gerald Ford, had done the right thing in pardoning

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Richard Nixon to spare the country,
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the country of having to go through
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through. What you know, I
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around, but uh, what the
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and that was that. And obviously
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analyzed it, and but but the
conventional wisdom broadly, oh, hello to

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a Melanie law Liberty, who joins
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But the conventional wisdom has always been
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to do. Again, not not
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to spare Nixon, but because why
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move on. Um. In recent
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more people again, they're always there. There have always been people who kind

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of disagreed with that. But but
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it was probably the right thing to
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who are kind of reflecting back on
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no, no, he probably should
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someone who is going to sit here
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that I think that there's some sort
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put it this way. Some people
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whatever he wanted and he'd get away
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he did and so forth. I
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am agnostic at this point on the
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is above the law and um.
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not a good thing for the country
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it is a necessary thing for the
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obviously, look, you've got that
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Republican base that is ride or die
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they will they will support him no
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happens to him. You know,
whether he stubs his stow when he gets

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up in the morning, or he
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eight counts. I think in this
federal indictment. Um, no matter what

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happens to him, Trump tells them, Uh, it's the deep state.

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It's Uh the Democrats have taken over
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they're just out to get me and
uh and I've done nothing wrong. Uh

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and uh oh, but it's not
that they're out to get me. They're

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out to get us. All of
us. He does is the inclusion thing,

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and they and they go for it. And uh. It's it's mind

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boggling to me, that's for sure. But but I understand that that's the

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reality of it. Um. Oh, Hello to I DJ Steven the Facebook

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laugh Chat. Hello, sir,
I'll see you this evening for Retrospectrum Radio.

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UM. I am worried about.
I am worried about though, and

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please don't take this wrong. I'm
not saying that this should not go forward.

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It should go forward. And listen, Trump, regardless of what I

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or you or anyone else thinks about
him, Uh, he ish to be

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afforded uh by law, the presumption
of innocence until proven guilty. So you

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know, I'm not gonna sit here
and I'm not gonna sit here and gloat

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about it, even though I don't
like the guy um or anything like that.

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So if anyone's expecting that, you're
not getting that. Last time we

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talked about Trump being indicted for someone, I got an email from a listener

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who had said he had to turn
off the show because I was gloating.

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I don't know what show he was
listening to. I was pretty somber about

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it. Actually, maybe it was
because of one of the song parodies I

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played. I don't know, but
no, listen, this is this is

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tough. This is tough for the
country. And I'm worried about that that

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core base that I was talking about, that thirty to thirty five percent,

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I'm worried about some of them being
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potential for violence. There was one
congressman, I think it was Chip Roy,

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who sounds like he's already calling for
violence. Jenny had sent me.

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I didn't get a chance to watch
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want to play it on the air
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But Mark Levin, who works for
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you know, he got very angry, which is kind of his brand,

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and he said on the air,
you know this is war where at war.

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Now, worry about that kind of
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to be violence. You know,
some of these militia types who you know,

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Trump is their uh, their their
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and uh, they're gonna this is
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this being sort of an activation point
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we'll see. Um. So I'm
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also but I'm bothered by people who
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do this because he's a former president, or because or because he's a candidate

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for office. See, because obviously
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got that thirty to thirty five percent
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die for Trump. They love him, he can do no wrong. Uh,

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he is effectively you know, he's
he's there. Uh. I don't

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want to say, well, they
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I'll just I'll put it that way. And of course. But you've

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also got some people who say who
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that they're pro Trump, but they're
uneasy. They're so uneasy with the idea

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of indicting and charging and prosecuting someone
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candidate for office, that they'll say, well, because because this person's a

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candidate, and because there's an election
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we haven't even gotten to the first
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because there's this campaign in motion,
that that this is inappropriate and you you

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should not be doing this while someone
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a lot of people who seem to
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nuts every time I hear it,
because every time I hear somebody say that,

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I'm thinking, do they hear themselves? Because as far as I'm concerned,

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what they're saying is, if you're
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the very thing that so many of
us complain about every day. Right

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every day people talk about, people
complain We live in a country where people

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complain rightly so about politics is dirty
and a lot of politicians are very dirty,

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and they do think they're above the
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I almost hate to say that because
it's such a cliche. But the

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reason that cliche endures is because it's
so true. Right, people complain about

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how the elite are not held accountable, people who are wealthy are not held

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accountable. You know, these are
these are complaints right about politicians, about

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the elite, about the wealthy getting
away with things and never never being held

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accountable for anything. These are complaints
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whether you're a liberal or a conservative
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whatever, or a political whatever,
whatever you are, whoever you are,

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you probably at some point or another
have thought or said something along those

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lines. Is a that is a
broad principle concept that most of us can

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agree on, that there is a
lack of accountability. The more money you

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have, or the more power you
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you have, the more likely you
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Right. That's a broadly accepted principle
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frustration for most people who think about
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But then when I hear these people
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don't know. I mean, maybe
if he wasn't a candidate, if you

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hadn't announced his candidacy, and he
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then it would be appropriate to prosecute
him. But but because he's an active

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candidate, then you you can't do
this. It's you know, you're you're

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going to interfere with the election.
Somehow. That makes me nuts, because

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every time somebody says that, what
they're saying is okay, so if someone

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chooses to be a politician, they're
above the law. We'll give him a

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pass. And I don't understand that
thinking at all. I mean, look,

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I do understand it in the sense
that some people who say that they're

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only saying it because it's Trump.
I get that. I understand the psychology

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of it, right, Whereas if
it were someone that they didn't like in

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the exact same scenario, they would
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be saying that. But it's Trump, and you know, you've got that,

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You've got that core base of the
party that just you know, they

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you know, if Trump told them
the sky was green, they'd walk outside,

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they'd look up and go, oh, how did I never notice that

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before it is green. You know. Of course, then you've got the

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other. If you've got thirty five
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you've got the other. I'm not
good at math. Sixty five percent

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of the party that really has just
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polling data shows yeah, I mean
I've seen polls that show that, you

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know, six and ten Republicans really
would like to just move on, you

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know, And and this is not
gonna cause those people to you know,

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that six and ten, that's sixty
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had enough. They're not gonna budge
anymore so than the thirty five percent that

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believes that, you know, you're
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percent isn't gonna budge either. They're
not gonna they're not gonna wake up one

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day and say, oh, he's
indicted. Oh maybe the other thirty five

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percent, maybe they're right, Maybe
maybe the FBO, Maybe law enforcement really

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is controlled by Democrats, even though
one knows law enforcement personnel tends to skew

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conservative. But yeah, maybe everything
Trump says it's true, And yeah,

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maybe we should go join the other
thirty five percent. No, no,

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no, that's not going to happen. But man, but that's the one

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thing, though, that drives me
nuts, is every time I hear somebody

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say, well, I don't think
I don't think it's appropriate to prosecute Trump

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right now because he's a candidate.
So all you have to do then is

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run for office, and you just
you have impunity. You get to just

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do whatever you want. So politicians
are above the law, is what you're

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saying. If you're saying that,
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But the other thing about this,
though, is so this is not

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all bad for Trump, And that's
the wild thing. That's one of the

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things that's so mind blowing about this
whole thing is using that to thirty five

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percent of the base that will will
follow Trump, you know, like the

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pied piper anywhere. Trump relies on
them to send him money every time anything

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like this happens. Trump is the
only example I can think of. I

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cannot think of another example in history
of a politician who every single bad thing

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that happens to him, all he
has to do is tell his donors,

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look, look what happened. Now
they're after us. They're not just after

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me, they're after us send me
money and they send money. That's why

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Trump is always Trump always gets out
out ahead of these Where do we learn

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about these things? Every time something
happens, like a new indictment for Trump,

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where do we hear about it first? Usually with a post on truth

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social Trump tells us. Why does
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even to the media. Why is
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Because got to keep the money coming. Trump knows see. Trump probably isn't

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sweating this because he thinks, well, more money, more money for the

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campaign, right, this is a
fantastic The worst it gets for him legally,

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the more money that will flow in, and the more it ensures that

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he will be the nominee. I
mean, I'm more certain than ever now

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Trump will be the nominee. But
it's such a it's such a weird dynamic.

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It's I cannot think of another example
that even comes close to it in

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American history. The only thing,
and it's it really doesn't even come close.

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It's a it's a very different situation. But the only thing I can

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think even I can think of even
remotely similar in some sense is when when

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Bill Clinton was president and he was
impeached. You know, he was not

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removed, but he was impeached.
You know, everyone remembers, or well,

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you young uns don't, but if
you're old enough to remember Monica Lewinsky

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and Bill Clinton, who, by
the way, people get it wrong.

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Bill Clinton was not impeached because he
because he had the affair with Monica.

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He was impeached for lyne to a
grand jury about it, which is,

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you know, you cannot commit perjury. Again, nobody is above the law.

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So he was impeached over that.
But among Democrats, his approval rating

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actually went up, not down,
and he left office with a higher approval

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rating because it was toward kind of
toward the end of his presidency. He

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ended up with a higher approval rating
because he was able to garner sympathy from

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his supporters because he said, look
what they're doing to me, Look what

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they're doing to us. But also
he was able to tie that into maybe

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it's really not that different, but
the potential consequences are very different, but

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in the ramifications and the crux of
the issue. But he was also able

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to tie that into what Hillary Clinton
had said. Many of you will remember

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Hillary Clinton's famous line very early in
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vast right wing conspiracy. She was
claiming, you know, with the investigations

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of the Clintons like Whitewater and others
that were early in the Clinton presidency,

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she said, there is a vast
right wing conspiracy out to get us.

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to a grand jury, he said,

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look, this is part of the
vast right wing conspiracy. Now I don't

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I don't remember him actually saying those
those words and referring back to what Hillary

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had said at the beginning of his
presidency verbatim. I don't think he did,

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but it was obviously implied, you
know, this is part of the

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vast right wing conspiracy. And his
support actually went up, not down among

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Democrats and probably among independents, certainly
not among Republicans. But um, so

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that's the only thing that I can
think of that's even in the same realm.

408
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,079
But but no, I mean so, so now I'm more certain now

409
00:31:22,119 --> 00:31:26,279
than ever Trump will be the nominee. But it's a paradox because the more

410
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:33,680
legal problems Trump has, the greater
the chance of him being the nominee,

411
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:40,599
and the less chance of him actually
winning a second term going back to the

412
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,279
White House, because you know,
it makes him all this all this stuff,

413
00:31:44,359 --> 00:31:47,200
because of the way Trump plays it, and he's very smart about marketing

414
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:53,759
and branding to his base. It
makes him a phenomenal nominee. Right,

415
00:31:55,960 --> 00:32:00,400
But I mean, his supporters,
his hardcore supporters are more enthusiastic than ever

416
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:05,799
that thirty to thirty five because they
believe he's uh, he's being picked on.

417
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:12,640
But it makes him a horrendous general
election candidate, you know. I

418
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:20,720
mean, we're talking about about somebody
who may very well be accepting the Republican

419
00:32:20,759 --> 00:32:27,599
nomination while we're in uh you know. Uh. There's a specific term for

420
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,039
it and ankle, uh you know, so they can keep track of you,

421
00:32:31,119 --> 00:32:35,279
a bracelet. But it's there's another
term for it that law enforcement uses.

422
00:32:35,559 --> 00:32:40,200
I mean, it's it's possible.
Um. And the thing is too

423
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,839
even though you have like let's say
you have a Republican party that has split

424
00:32:49,079 --> 00:32:55,240
where let's say you've got three and
ten. Let's say let's say it's closer

425
00:32:55,279 --> 00:32:58,480
to thirty person. Well, no, it'd be it'd be in between.

426
00:32:58,519 --> 00:33:01,200
But let's say, let's make it
really simple. Let's say you've got three

427
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:07,680
and ten Republicans who are totally committed
continue to be completely in love with Trump

428
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:12,480
no matter what. And then you've
got seven in ten that would like to

429
00:33:12,519 --> 00:33:15,400
move on. Pulling data show six
to ten, let's make it seven.

430
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,519
So you've got three that are still
committed, seven that are saying, no,

431
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:24,880
we got to move on. We've
got a whole slate of other options.

432
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,319
And what are there is something like
nine or ten or eleven candidates other

433
00:33:29,359 --> 00:33:31,359
than Trump now in the race.
I mean, you know, and that's

434
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:37,160
you know, I'm just talking about
the people that we hear about on a

435
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:44,880
regular basis. The problem is if
you're if you're in that seven out of

436
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,720
ten and you desperately want somebody else, the reason you're not going to get

437
00:33:47,759 --> 00:33:52,799
somebody else is because that three and
ten, even though there's more of you,

438
00:33:52,319 --> 00:33:55,079
there's more of you. If you're
a Republican, there's more of you

439
00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:59,440
that want to move on. Then
want to stick with this guy, right.

440
00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:02,400
But the problem is those of you
who want to move on, you've

441
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:07,799
got too many choices. Some of
you are going to say to Santis,

442
00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:08,519
some of you are going to say
Hayley, some of you are gonna say

443
00:34:08,559 --> 00:34:13,880
Christie some of you're gonna say,
uh, Hutchinson, you know, you

444
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,920
know, you got a whole bunch
of you know, some of you are

445
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:19,239
gonna say Steve Laughey. I mentioned
him because we've had him on the show.

446
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:22,239
Um, you know. But the
thing is, and and there's there's

447
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,360
others. But the thing is,
it's gonna be a repeat of twenty sixteen.

448
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,440
What happened in twenty sixteen. Now
take Iowa out of it, because

449
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:34,800
in twenty sixteen Trump actually lost Iowa. But Iowa is not a reliable predictor

450
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:38,320
of how anything's going to go anyway. I'll due respect to anyone from Iowa,

451
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,880
like our friend Eric Pilcher who might
be listening, take Iowa out.

452
00:34:44,159 --> 00:34:50,239
But um, in New Hampshire,
what happened in twenty sixteen, Trump and

453
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,480
the polls were correct. Trump won
big in New Hampshire. And I remember

454
00:34:54,559 --> 00:34:59,480
leading up to the New Hampshire primary, scene polls that showed like Trump like

455
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,920
the one candidate who was actually in
double digits, and everybody else on the

456
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:07,480
ballot was you know, like one
percent two percent. Trump's at like twenty

457
00:35:07,519 --> 00:35:12,280
eight percent or thirty two percent or
whatever. And even up to the up

458
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,639
to the day of the primary.
People, some of my Republican friends who

459
00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:17,920
really liked Trump even were very skeptical
that it was going to be Trump,

460
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:22,079
And I kept saying, look,
you know, you can be skeptical of

461
00:35:22,119 --> 00:35:23,360
polls all you want to, but
look at this, Come on, there's

462
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:30,039
no way that's wrong. And it
turned out it wasn't wrong, and Trump

463
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:34,960
one handily in New Hampshire. But
you know where did the rest of that

464
00:35:35,079 --> 00:35:38,159
vote go. Did it go to
a strong second place finisher? No,

465
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:45,119
I don't even remember. I don't
even remember who came in second, do

466
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,320
you? I don't. If anybody
in the chat room knows, feel free

467
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:51,000
to type it in. I can't
even remember who came in second or third.

468
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,199
Kind of didn't matter because whoever it
was, they had a very small

469
00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:00,760
number. We're looking at the same
thing here. So if you've got three

470
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,320
in ten who want to stick with
Trump, seven out of ten who want

471
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,559
to move on, that seven out
of ten has a whole bunch of options

472
00:36:06,559 --> 00:36:09,639
and they're not all going to pick
the same one. So so I still

473
00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:14,000
believe Trump will be the nominee.
And I think in terms of getting to

474
00:36:14,039 --> 00:36:20,039
the nomination, all of this legal
trouble even I mean to any other person,

475
00:36:20,119 --> 00:36:24,360
to any other person, what's happening
now with these I think thirty eight

476
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:30,840
counts. This would be devastating.
This would mean you better resign yourself to

477
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:35,320
wearing an orange jumpsuit in the future. But for Trump, it just makes

478
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:42,880
him stronger as he pursues the nomination. If and this is where the big

479
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,800
gamble is for him, if he
gets the nomination, which he will,

480
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:58,719
if he manages to win the presidency, all this goes away if he can

481
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,840
run out the clock. So you
know, I don't know how. I

482
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:07,440
mean, he's got It's not just
what Jack Smith in US today. He's

483
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:14,159
got a lot legally on his plate. But if he can run out the

484
00:37:14,199 --> 00:37:16,599
clock, he can. You know, if he does become president again,

485
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,239
he can then say, Okay,
this all goes away. I'm in charge

486
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:27,519
again. Justice Department, just forget
it done. But what if he's already

487
00:37:27,559 --> 00:37:30,360
convicted. What would be very interesting
to see is if he's already convicted,

488
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:37,719
will he then try to pardon himself
if he is elected president? And that

489
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:45,800
is that is a matter that is
open to debate. This would not be

490
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:52,599
the first time people have wondered about
that in the case of Trump, can

491
00:37:52,599 --> 00:37:57,480
a president actually pardoned himself. It's
never been tried, it's never been tested.

492
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,440
In theory, it's possible, but
it's again it's never been tested,

493
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:07,719
So we don't know. Um.
But it's a big gamble for him.

494
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:14,199
It's a big gamble. Um.
Something else I wanted to say about this

495
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:19,079
too, is I because obviously,
you know, you have the people who

496
00:38:19,159 --> 00:38:24,039
say who will say, you know, Trump Trump followers will say, well,

497
00:38:24,039 --> 00:38:27,960
what about Biden and his secret documents? And what about Mike Pence and

498
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,719
his secret documents? Well, you
know, my position has been all along.

499
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:36,679
I'm pretty angry with anyone who mishandles
secret documents. As a taxpayer,

500
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:42,000
as an American, I care about
that, and there's there's no excuse for

501
00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:46,159
it. But what is markedly different. And by the way, I will

502
00:38:46,199 --> 00:38:51,960
just remind people there is another So
Jack Smith is a special counsel on the

503
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:59,079
Trump case, there is another special
prosecutor with an ongoing investigation into Biden on

504
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:02,440
this I'll just remind you of that. In the case of Mike Pence,

505
00:39:02,599 --> 00:39:06,440
that was closed. I think it
was earlier this week, right, was

506
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:07,599
it this week or last No,
it was this week. I think right.

507
00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:10,719
It was toward the beginning of the
week that was closed. They got

508
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:17,559
everything back. He cooperated done,
not charging him with anything. With Biden,

509
00:39:17,679 --> 00:39:21,679
there is an ongoing investigation, but
again, as far as we know,

510
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:27,159
full cooperation. The difference, the
big difference with Trump is it's not

511
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:34,360
even so much about what he took. Although, and we might have to

512
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:38,800
hold off until later in the show
after Shane's call, we'll we'll circle back

513
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:44,400
to this because we'll have a little
bit more time afterward. But um,

514
00:39:45,639 --> 00:39:50,159
what what he did take? It
sounds kind of scary, okay, but

515
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,760
putting that aside, putting put that
aside for a minute, it's it's about

516
00:39:53,840 --> 00:40:00,880
the obstruction and that's a big difference. That is an important distinction and Pence

517
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:07,800
both when it became apparent there was
an issue cooperated done. Here you go,

518
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,800
sorry about that again, No excuse. I don't want anyone to misunderstand.

519
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,199
I think I'm just giving them a
pass. I'm not. There's no

520
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:20,840
excuse for miss handeling classified information.
And in both of their cases, I

521
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,320
have questions. Um, I guess
I'll forget about asking any questions about Pence

522
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:29,760
because that matter has already been closed. So whatever questions I had, I'll

523
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:31,639
just forget it. And by the
way, Pence, to his credit,

524
00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:35,960
has taken full responsibility. He has
said he didn't he didn't try to get

525
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:40,480
cute with it and make excuses and
obfuscate. No. Pence said, look,

526
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,039
this was a mistake. It was
an honest mistake. But it's it's

527
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:50,719
it's unacceptable and I take full responsibility
for it. It should not have happened,

528
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,599
and I take responsibility. So good
on him. I respect that.

529
00:40:54,599 --> 00:40:58,119
There's not a lot of things I
respect about him. Again, We've talked

530
00:40:58,119 --> 00:41:01,000
about that on this show. But
but some things I do, and that's

531
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:07,880
one of them. He took full
responsibility. But with Trump, it's not

532
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:15,559
so much about what he took,
although that is a problem apparently again presumption

533
00:41:15,639 --> 00:41:19,400
of innocence, I get it.
I'm keeping that in mind. I'm doing

534
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:25,400
my best. But the obstruction part, you know, play and hide the

535
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:35,719
ball with everything. You know,
when somebody comes knocking on your door and

536
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,920
says, hey, you have something
that doesn't belong to you and we'd like

537
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:44,639
it back, and you don't give
it back, and instead you enter this

538
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:55,559
protracted negotiation about like imagine, imagine
if imagine you're you're a homeowner and one

539
00:41:55,639 --> 00:42:00,000
day you realize that you have there's
some tools missing out of your garage,

540
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:04,480
and you you see your neighbor using
one of your tools and you say,

541
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,800
hey, you you took my tools, and they say, oh, sorry,

542
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,840
I was just bothering. I was
just bothering. I was just borrowing

543
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,800
them, and you weren't around.
I didn't think you'd mind, you know.

544
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,159
And then you maybe you even think
back, oh, yeah, I

545
00:42:15,159 --> 00:42:16,599
did tell him once if he needed
anything, he could have it. That's

546
00:42:16,599 --> 00:42:22,239
true. And then uh, your
neighbor says, well, I'll get him

547
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:23,320
right back to you, you know. And then a couple of weeks go

548
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:27,239
by and you don't get them back. A couple more weeks go by,

549
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,119
you don't get them back. So
then you go and you knock on his

550
00:42:30,159 --> 00:42:31,880
door and you say, hey,
I really need my tools, and your

551
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:37,079
neighbors like, well, let's uh, let's negotiate on this. I'm not

552
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:42,360
just gonna give you back your tools. Um let's uh, you know,

553
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,360
but here, let's maybe I can
give back some of them, or maybe

554
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:50,039
we can work something out. Or
you'd be kind of like, what what

555
00:42:50,119 --> 00:42:52,920
are you doing? You don't get
to negotiate with my tools. They're my

556
00:42:52,000 --> 00:43:00,239
tools, those aren't yours. And
then and then maybe your neighbor's wife comes

557
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:06,440
out and uh says, well,
you know, I'm pretty sure he already

558
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:10,599
gave back all of your tools.
And you're like, what, No,

559
00:43:10,599 --> 00:43:13,760
No, he didn't. He sells
my tools. I want my tools.

560
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,679
And your wife says, well,
I'm gonna I'm gonna. I'm a lawyer,

561
00:43:16,679 --> 00:43:23,800
I'm gonna d drop a sworn affidavit
claiming that I saw him give you

562
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:29,880
your tools back. You know.
Anyway, the point being, obstruction is

563
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:36,199
a problem. And I'm not an
attorney, I'm not a legal expert of

564
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:40,360
any kind, but obstruction is illegal. Well, you know, when you're

565
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:45,559
moving evidence around, when you're trying
to hide evidence. Uh, that's you

566
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:49,400
know again, it's it's that's why. There's an old saying and I don't

567
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:53,239
know if this existed before Watergate or
not, but there's a there's an expression

568
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:58,599
it's it's not the crime, it's
the cover up. It's the cover up.

569
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:05,320
So trying to obstruct justice is what
will really get you. And um,

570
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,920
it sounds like that's that. Well, that's what he's part of what

571
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:15,079
he's charged with. And this other
guy whose name escapes me, who may

572
00:44:15,079 --> 00:44:22,880
have helped him do it. Conspiracy
to obstruct justice? Um, and uh

573
00:44:24,199 --> 00:44:28,960
it's it's uh, well, we'll
look at it again later in the show.

574
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,440
We'll we'll circle back to it and
we'll look at that that part in

575
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:37,400
a little more detail. But um, one other thing though, before we

576
00:44:37,519 --> 00:44:39,599
leave the subject for now, because
we're gonna get to a break and then

577
00:44:39,639 --> 00:44:43,599
we're going to play another one of
Shane Balen's new songs and then we'll we'll

578
00:44:43,639 --> 00:44:45,880
talk to him. He's going to
call in. Looking forward to that.

579
00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:52,440
But one other thing about this.
When Trump has responded publicly to all of

580
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,480
this, what have we heard him
say over and over and by the way,

581
00:44:54,519 --> 00:44:58,719
I'm sure as lawyers wish that he
would just shut up, but he

582
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,920
can't help himself. Trump exists in
a consistent state of self immolation. Anyway.

583
00:45:04,199 --> 00:45:07,440
I've never in my life seen an
example of someone who creates their own

584
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:13,639
problems like him. I think even
some of his supporters would possibly agree with

585
00:45:13,679 --> 00:45:16,480
that. But Trump has said many
times he goes had looked those were minded

586
00:45:16,519 --> 00:45:19,599
to take. If I wanted to, I could do anything I want.

587
00:45:19,679 --> 00:45:23,599
I was a president, I could
even declassify them telepathically, just thinking about

588
00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:30,880
it with my mind. The they're
declassified. There you go. So he

589
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,239
talks about that a lot. He
talks about how he had the right to

590
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:37,320
declassify them. What has he not
addressed? What is one thing that he

591
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:44,159
has never addressed that I didn't even
hear Caitlin Collins ask him during that town

592
00:45:44,199 --> 00:45:46,079
hall, and I don't know why, or maybe she did. But what

593
00:45:46,159 --> 00:45:50,719
if I never heard him explain?
What if none of us ever heard him

594
00:45:50,719 --> 00:46:04,159
explain why he took them? He's
never explained why. He will explain kicking

595
00:46:04,199 --> 00:46:08,280
and screaming they're mind to take.
I had every right to take them on

596
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:19,800
lim limit. Dude, Why though? Why? And I, as a

597
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:24,480
taxpayer, but more importantly, as
an American citizen, I would like to

598
00:46:24,519 --> 00:46:34,519
know and I deserve to know why. And I can only think of two

599
00:46:34,599 --> 00:46:40,519
reasons. Reason Number one, he
took them to impress people, so he

600
00:46:40,559 --> 00:46:44,840
could say, I have secret documents. Oh look at this, or don't

601
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,320
look at this. I can't actually
show it to you, but I have.

602
00:46:47,119 --> 00:46:52,519
I have classified information from when I
was president. The other option is

603
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:57,239
I almost don't even want to say
it out loud, and I hope with

604
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,639
every cell of my being this is
not true. But the other option is

605
00:47:04,599 --> 00:47:10,159
probably fetch a lot of money from
an unfriendly government for some of that information.

606
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:16,039
I'm not saying. Before anybody freaks
out at me, I'm not saying

607
00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:22,119
I think that's what it was.
In fact, if I were a betting

608
00:47:22,199 --> 00:47:25,760
man, I would probably go with
the first option. I will. I

609
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:35,760
will give him that much benefit of
the doubt for now. But I not

610
00:47:36,199 --> 00:47:42,920
once, not once, have I
heard him explain why. And I know

611
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,519
why. He doesn't explain why,
because in his mind, he doesn't owe

612
00:47:46,599 --> 00:47:52,559
us an explanation because he was president
and he could do whatever he wanted,

613
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:58,559
So he doesn't owe us an explanation. And you know, if you happen

614
00:47:58,599 --> 00:48:00,159
to be maga, you agree with
Yeah, of course he doesn't know us

615
00:48:00,159 --> 00:48:05,239
an explanation. He's Donald Trump.
Well, I'm an American taxpayer. I

616
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,840
want an explanation, and I am
out an explanation, and so are all

617
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:16,559
of you, whether you want to
hear the explanation or not. And for

618
00:48:16,599 --> 00:48:20,880
those of you who don't think you
need an explanation, or don't care or

619
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,880
don't want an explanation, pull your
heads out of wherever they're stuck because you

620
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:30,719
deserve an explanation. We all deserve. Every American in this country, whether

621
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:34,960
they want to hear it or not, deserves an explanation on that one question,

622
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:45,400
and we better get it why.
We all deserve to know why.

623
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:51,679
All Right, on that note,
we're gonna take a quick break. We're

624
00:48:51,679 --> 00:48:55,559
gonna show love to our amazing sponsors, and then when we come back,

625
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,840
we're gonna plays another one of Shane
Balin's great songs and he'll be calling in.

626
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,920
So as soon as the song is
over, hopefully he'll be on the

627
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:08,079
phone with us and we'll get to
talking with him. Definitely want to learn

628
00:49:08,119 --> 00:49:14,000
all about the new album and new
producer he's working with, all of it.

629
00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:15,719
So Shane is a very very talented
gentleman. So I'm really looking forward

630
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,960
to that. But so we're going
to do all of that. There is

631
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,559
plenty more to come. We're only
halfway through the show, so stick around.

632
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,000
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650
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to back home. When I climbed
to sign, my dad struck three on

651
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the tree on at his knee.
He told me I had to driver down.

652
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:40,280
And the older lucky strikes in those
spies are two smells stacking hit my

653
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:52,760
heart now that I'm o them amazing
that owen dog struck her worth more than

654
00:51:52,719 --> 00:52:00,440
the money that youd gone back found
alone down on my love crying now I

655
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:15,599
keep it truck, I to my
day, unroony child around he didn't know

656
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:24,400
where to take daddy's girl. I
was his word and blone he gave me.

657
00:52:27,519 --> 00:52:31,719
I didn't came right. I just
found it, didn't broke up and

658
00:52:32,079 --> 00:52:46,400
me free memories and his own dud
truer worth more money that you're ever gonna

659
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:53,280
be. The flowers he so down
on my love ground. Now I can't

660
00:52:53,400 --> 00:53:06,320
get the truck I didn't know to
my day as I take that gun brack

661
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:34,920
down in my brain for turn scream
that review indo now very clear, Please

662
00:53:35,159 --> 00:53:53,679
fix her up, don John to
kill I'm raising it a stroker money that

663
00:53:53,840 --> 00:54:30,480
you don't take me down. Well, that is beautiful. That is Daddy's

664
00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:35,800
struck here on Matt Connerton Unleashed by
the great Shane Balin and I believe he

665
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:42,119
is on the phone. Shane.
Are you there? Oh Shane, did

666
00:54:42,119 --> 00:54:47,599
we lose you? Uh? We
lost him? Shane, call us back

667
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:57,880
if you're listening. Uh, let's
see I'm messaging him. Try calling again.

668
00:54:58,079 --> 00:55:02,320
I don't know what happened. Oh, there we go. Yeah,

669
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:08,199
this is him, Shane. Is
that you? That's me? Oh?

670
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:12,480
Hey, there we go. How
you doing? Man? Sorry about that?

671
00:55:12,639 --> 00:55:15,559
How are you how? How are
you so excited to be on Unleashed?

672
00:55:15,679 --> 00:55:16,800
Yeah? Yeah, good to have
you back. Of course I was

673
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:21,400
saying earlier in the show, how
last time you were here you were in

674
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,480
studio with us, playing your guitar
and just sounding great, and uh it's

675
00:55:24,519 --> 00:55:28,760
great to hear. These are all
so everything that you sent us. These

676
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:34,519
are from the brand new album String
Pain Projection. That's right, that's right

677
00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:37,400
man. Yeah, I'm so excited. You know. I was working with

678
00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,880
my new producer, a good friend
of mine and mister Goodbarston te Thorpe over

679
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:45,840
at the Toy Box Studios in nash, New Hampshire. He's you know the

680
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:52,280
best in right now. We got
worked on this for a couple of weeks.

681
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,239
You just finished it last night.
I sent that over to you right

682
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:58,079
away before I could even get you
the first to have I haven't got anything

683
00:55:58,079 --> 00:56:00,360
on Spotify or anything like that.
Oh wow, but um, but I'll

684
00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:04,440
play there on the twenty first.
You know, I'm excited to play those

685
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:09,599
songs. And you know, the
uh the string Pain Projection was the title

686
00:56:09,639 --> 00:56:13,079
of that because I just meant a
lot to me, I thought, you

687
00:56:13,079 --> 00:56:16,519
know, because the music itself and
a lot of my songs, you know,

688
00:56:16,599 --> 00:56:20,760
especially on this album is here.
It's about the pains of life kind

689
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,960
of you know, we all everybody, every single person experiences and it's the

690
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:29,639
way the music you can turn sadness
and pain into healing is amazing. You

691
00:56:29,679 --> 00:56:31,000
know. I've done that. I
played in hospitals and stuff like that.

692
00:56:31,639 --> 00:56:35,280
Recently, I was at a wedding
got to play for I spoke about the

693
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:40,519
last time young lady m who was
you know, sick, and played for

694
00:56:40,559 --> 00:56:44,119
her and I got a chance to
actually play it at her wedding recently at

695
00:56:44,119 --> 00:56:45,960
the Old Salt and it was so
much fun to see and gratulations. Wow.

696
00:56:46,679 --> 00:56:50,599
But yeah, and um, so
it's you know, it's just takes

697
00:56:50,599 --> 00:56:53,039
it. It's a pain filter through
the strings, I think, um,

698
00:56:53,559 --> 00:56:58,360
and uh, you know, and
then you project that as healing into people,

699
00:56:58,679 --> 00:57:01,079
and you know that's a lot with
a new album. I was kind

700
00:57:01,079 --> 00:57:05,239
of I already have another album.
I want to I want to run.

701
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,400
You know, it's all written.
I just got to get into the studio

702
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:08,800
again in a little while and do
it because I just got a lot of

703
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:13,159
songs. I've been busy writing,
uh since I was in there last time.

704
00:57:13,639 --> 00:57:17,119
And you know, I'm really working
with some sulfedial frequencies and different healing

705
00:57:17,239 --> 00:57:21,599
type. Music is going to be
the focus of that one. Uh you

706
00:57:21,639 --> 00:57:24,400
know. But but yeah, so
I didn't really enjoyed working with mister Goodbars.

707
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,760
He's probably gonna call in on the
twenty first two. I talk a

708
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,920
little bit, uh, And we
had a remix we made. It's absolutely

709
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,719
awesome. Yeah, I love it, and he puts a big eight oh

710
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,199
eights in there, and it's you
know, got you know, emerging country

711
00:57:37,239 --> 00:57:40,159
hip hop feel to it. Uh, And I got a little hook on

712
00:57:40,199 --> 00:57:44,519
it, and it's just I think
it's great. Yeah, Yeah, it's

713
00:57:44,559 --> 00:57:46,800
really good. I will I'll play
that later in the show, perhaps at

714
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,639
the end of the segment. In
fact, yeah, it is. It

715
00:57:49,719 --> 00:57:51,920
is very good, very good.
Yeah, Now how did you so,

716
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,800
how did you get to work in
with him? How did how did that

717
00:57:53,840 --> 00:58:00,960
come about? Yeah? I met
him up at playing music up in Lebanon

718
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:05,199
of a Charlie Solls. He's been
was in Sepsis, you know, and

719
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:10,159
I went to the music awards to
follow him and followed them and I went

720
00:58:10,159 --> 00:58:13,880
down there with a friend of mine
and we got a chance to talk and

721
00:58:14,079 --> 00:58:16,039
he just came up and he asked
me who was producing any of my stuff?

722
00:58:16,039 --> 00:58:19,320
And I got a chance to meet
him and took my number, and

723
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,920
the rest of history is great.
Um. It was just a perfect person

724
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,440
um and you know, to meet
that at the right time, I was

725
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:30,800
just, uh, I'm so thankful
for it. So um much props to

726
00:58:30,199 --> 00:58:36,440
mister Goodbars. But m jadd you
know just that the Daddy's truck. Hearing

727
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,159
that PLI played, I was just
so amazing because, as I said,

728
00:58:39,159 --> 00:58:43,320
I worked with another one of my
friends and artist Jeanine. He passed away,

729
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:45,559
and she always said that was a
collaboration with us, and she wanted

730
00:58:45,559 --> 00:58:47,679
to get that on the radio.
She said this is going to be on

731
00:58:47,679 --> 00:58:51,719
the radio one day, and to
hear it playing on the radio was just,

732
00:58:52,199 --> 00:58:54,239
oh, I still got goose bumps. Oh that's cool, that's cool.

733
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:58,360
Yeah right, I remember you talking
about her at last time that you

734
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,039
were here with us, and now
yeah, and just to clarify, so

735
00:59:01,239 --> 00:59:07,559
does mister Goodbars he produces the whole
album. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

736
00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:10,400
he produced the whole album. And
then um the song, Um Charlie,

737
00:59:10,440 --> 00:59:16,079
he took um in my my guitar
and my music in there, it took

738
00:59:16,079 --> 00:59:21,119
out and put in his lyrics,
and I got the did the hook on

739
00:59:21,159 --> 00:59:23,800
the end, and yeah, let's
put that and he put and we have

740
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:28,280
that nice crackling fire which we came
up with us last night and we put

741
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,119
into the string paining projection because that's
where you know, we wrote the song

742
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:36,000
front of that fire, and and
it's just it's one of those moments of

743
00:59:36,079 --> 00:59:39,079
my squads perfect. Yeah, no, it's it's a it's a cool effect.

744
00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:43,840
It almost sounds like, um,
it could be crackling fire or even

745
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,440
the sound of a Vinyl record,
you know rain yeah that too, yeah,

746
00:59:46,519 --> 00:59:50,960
yeah, yeah, oh vinyl exactly. I thought it was sounding like

747
00:59:51,079 --> 00:59:54,440
Vinyl too. Yeah. Yeah,
so yeah, I won't say I to

748
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:58,480
my dad in Florida, all my
kids, you know, and my dad,

749
00:59:58,639 --> 01:00:01,639
uh he's down floor, right dad. You very nice, very nice.

750
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:06,639
Yeah. So I'm gonna have I'll
be you know, playing around.

751
01:00:06,719 --> 01:00:08,079
I'm trying to get some different gigs. I'll be playing out and I like

752
01:00:08,119 --> 01:00:12,440
to go out in Hampton and do
some student performing too, so used to

753
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,519
play some. I got my next
CDs now, so I'll have some new

754
01:00:15,559 --> 01:00:22,000
songs out there and just trying to
you know, getting out now, focused

755
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,840
to get back in the studio again. Yeah. Now, so is uh

756
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:29,239
so the new album? Is it
a full album or is it an EP?

757
01:00:30,119 --> 01:00:34,519
Well, it's it's five five tracks, okay, okay, so it's

758
01:00:34,519 --> 01:00:42,519
an EP. Yeah yeah yeah and
so yeah, and there's so much I

759
01:00:42,599 --> 01:00:44,920
wanted to do. I kind of
wanted to put about like three or four

760
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:46,559
more songs, but then again,
I want to just work on the ones

761
01:00:46,599 --> 01:00:50,519
we had a little bit more.
So yeah. Yeah, the show's coming

762
01:00:50,599 --> 01:00:53,119
up. So I promised you i'd
have it ready, right right. So,

763
01:00:53,199 --> 01:00:58,960
now, so the album itself isn't
out yet, correct, right?

764
01:00:59,039 --> 01:01:02,320
All right? I just the last
night about eleven thirty so um yeah,

765
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:07,800
oh yeah, process right now,
getting it all um to uh you know,

766
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:12,039
register with the songs on Billboard and
um, get this different CDs and

767
01:01:13,119 --> 01:01:17,559
get everything out onto all the music
out with Yeah. So maybe by tomorrow

768
01:01:17,719 --> 01:01:21,000
or together. Oh very cool.
Yeah, it's a lot of work.

769
01:01:21,039 --> 01:01:23,880
It's it's it's more than people realize. There's there's more than people. Yeah,

770
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:30,119
it goes into it again. I
really appreciate uh, you know,

771
01:01:30,159 --> 01:01:35,239
playing my music and uh it's a
great dream come true. Thanks thanks so

772
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:38,000
much. Oh absolutely absolutely, uh
Shane, and anything you want us to

773
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:40,840
know about shows that you have coming
up you you know you mentioned Hampton,

774
01:01:42,119 --> 01:01:44,880
uh any anything else? And also
too, I want to make sure our

775
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:47,920
listeners nowhere to find you online too. Sure, yeah you can always you

776
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,760
can always find me. I like
to post all my music. I do

777
01:01:51,840 --> 01:01:54,039
live streams and post a bunch of
music all the time on my Facebook page

778
01:01:54,360 --> 01:02:00,760
Shane down and you know, so
you can you can find me also uh

779
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:07,400
in sah N E B A L
O N and U. Uh yeah,

780
01:02:07,519 --> 01:02:13,280
I'm gonna be probably playing I think
at the Governess Lodge July with a good

781
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:17,559
friend Brian Munger Um and um,
you know there's some upcoming shows over at

782
01:02:17,840 --> 01:02:21,599
Charlie Hill. Much love to Charlie
Hill, love you guys up in,

783
01:02:21,679 --> 01:02:25,960
loving in and uh and everything else. You know. I'm just trying to

784
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:30,920
work up and really focusing on trying
to get the actual music in the studio

785
01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:34,039
over the last couple of months.
Yeah, yeah, well, uh,

786
01:02:34,639 --> 01:02:37,840
this it sounds great. Love what
you're doing. And uh, well we'll

787
01:02:38,159 --> 01:02:42,840
we'll let you go in a moment, we'll play that that remix of Charlie

788
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:46,159
which is was just so good.
Yeah, all right, that sounds wonderful.

789
01:02:46,239 --> 01:02:50,199
And then but we'll see So we'll
see you in studio on the twenty

790
01:02:50,239 --> 01:02:53,239
first. And you're gonna bring your
your guitar, I hope. Oh yeah,

791
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:55,360
I'm gonna bring my guitar. And
I got a new guitar too.

792
01:02:55,360 --> 01:03:00,119
We're gonna bring guitars. Excellent,
excellent, all right, No, we

793
01:03:00,159 --> 01:03:02,400
look forward to that. I got
a ton of positive response on your previous

794
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:06,840
appearance with us in studio, so
really looking forward to that, Shane.

795
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:08,599
That means a lot to me.
Thank you so much. I'm gonna keep

796
01:03:08,639 --> 01:03:12,880
working hard and I'll be ready for
the twenty first. All right, sounds

797
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:15,440
great, all right, Shane,
we'll let you go and I'm gonna and

798
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,079
then I'm gonna hit this track.
But thank you so much, my friend,

799
01:03:17,079 --> 01:03:20,159
and we'll see you soon. Well, we'll see in a couple of

800
01:03:20,159 --> 01:03:22,239
weeks. That sounds good. Thank
you, Matt. All right, man,

801
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,039
you got it. Take care all
right, all right? Throbabye,

802
01:03:25,639 --> 01:03:29,440
Oh wonderful. All right. So
that was the great Shane Balin. And

803
01:03:29,519 --> 01:03:31,519
yes, he'll be here with us
in studio on the twenty first. But

804
01:03:31,679 --> 01:03:35,280
in the meantime, let's listen to
this. So this is the track that

805
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:38,840
he was talking about. This is
um Charlie. Jeez. You know what

806
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:45,440
I might do? Maybe I'll should
I play them both? You know what

807
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:46,679
I'm gonna do. I'm gonna what
the hell, I'm gonna play both.

808
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:52,119
So there's there's two versions of the
song. Um. There's there's uh the

809
01:03:52,199 --> 01:03:58,199
song Charlie, the original, and
then there's the remix that mister Goodbars is

810
01:03:58,199 --> 01:04:00,400
on. I'm gonna play on both. I'll play the original and then i'll

811
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,519
play because they're not very long,
your short songs anyway, when I top

812
01:04:02,559 --> 01:04:05,000
playing both, this will be interesting. So I'll play Charlie and then I'll

813
01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:11,239
play the Charlie remix with mister Goodbars
and uh, that'll be that'll be interesting

814
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,239
and then we'll we'll come back with
the rest of our show. So here

815
01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:17,280
it is. This is uh,
this is Charlie from the Great Shane Ballen.

816
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:23,079
Here a world radio premiere on Matt
Connerton Unleashed. Check it out.

817
01:04:46,440 --> 01:05:03,519
Make turs borrow cards the distance between
those. The next time you're in the

818
01:05:03,679 --> 01:05:15,480
field, never start making away.
Just remember I am waiting and hearing sleep,

819
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:29,039
just like the campers in the field
on the retreat. I am flickering.

820
01:05:30,519 --> 01:05:38,559
I am ma reason you fight.
I am the curving your bel and

821
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:47,800
I am choose on your neck.
I'm Louis and I'm the silence. When

822
01:05:48,000 --> 01:06:09,000
you read Living up After and Stove
keeps that knee, it's the resignation that

823
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:28,760
still no. You'll find it's the
flickering line and the reason you fight,

824
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:47,079
curled in your greens on you,
the whistle yellow the same when you when

825
01:06:47,320 --> 01:07:02,960
living love last Survive, then that
stove keeps that knew lying. It's the

826
01:07:03,239 --> 01:07:18,480
resignation that still desire. Oh this
you're fine. It's me, Mom,

827
01:07:18,679 --> 01:07:34,519
It's me, it's me, miss
me. Oh ass me. I am

828
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:59,440
to it's me, it's me.
Yeah, I miss you all. You

829
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,519
know I can never let you go. As we travels through the slafe,

830
01:08:02,519 --> 01:08:06,400
I know my hand to blame my
ros or what I miss you? See

831
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:10,440
you in my dreams when I get
some sleep. You ain't young in know

832
01:08:10,639 --> 01:08:15,119
my heart and an that makes me
bridge, Arlie. Pictures on the wall

833
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,159
up for life, we seeing the
pastimes. I remember my older smiles in

834
01:08:18,279 --> 01:08:23,920
the feeling what your life like?
The chills on my arm after sky Sturn

835
01:08:24,039 --> 01:08:28,079
Blue. I have to say this
is true. Your love could change my

836
01:08:28,159 --> 01:08:31,119
mood to me. You didn't know
wrong. You some my bavorite song.

837
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:38,119
You showed me how to open up
and brace with open arms. I cried

838
01:08:38,319 --> 01:08:43,800
the most. I loved you hard, I smiled the most because you're my

839
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,279
heart. I miss you over.
You know I can never let you go.

840
01:08:46,720 --> 01:08:49,920
As we travels through the slafe,
I know my hand to blame my

841
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:54,560
ros or what I miss you.
See you in my dreams when I get

842
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:58,399
some sleep. You ain't young in
know my heart and the an that makes

843
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:35,520
me bridge. Jarlie, I'm flingering
why I don't curb your round che screamwork.

844
01:09:38,239 --> 01:10:08,600
I wish see living love letters still
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dot com. WMNH rip the Novels. Welcome back everybody as we cruise into

867
01:13:31,439 --> 01:13:35,159
our final segment today, our final
segment of the week on the program actually

868
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:41,000
Matt Connerton Unleashed. We are live
from the studios of w m n H

869
01:13:42,159 --> 01:13:46,159
three FM and Glorious Downtown Manchester,
New Hampshire, also on Comcast ninety seven

870
01:13:46,199 --> 01:13:49,319
if you're in Manchester, and Hello
to all of our online listeners across the

871
01:13:49,399 --> 01:13:53,439
nation and around the globe. You
can go to my website Matt Connerton dot

872
01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:57,239
com for all of your live streaming
options, social media links, contact and

873
01:13:57,319 --> 01:14:00,640
folk show archives, etcetera, etcetera. It is Friday, June nine,

874
01:14:01,159 --> 01:14:04,479
two thousand and twenty three. By
the way, thank you again so much

875
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:09,239
to our friend Shane Balen for joining
us today, for calling in, and

876
01:14:09,279 --> 01:14:13,760
we've been featuring some of his music
today the world radio premiere of tracks from

877
01:14:13,840 --> 01:14:17,920
his new album String Pain Projection.
And he's going to be here in studio

878
01:14:18,039 --> 01:14:21,560
with us on the twenty first.
He'll bring his guitar or guitars. It

879
01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:25,319
sounds like he's got a new one
and looking forward to that. And he

880
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,239
might have mister Goodbars with him.
We'll see, so that'll be that'll be

881
01:14:28,279 --> 01:14:31,319
fun. He's guys, got a
great voice, great voice. I love

882
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:38,039
hearing him saying so. Thank you
again, Shane. And it is Friday,

883
01:14:38,159 --> 01:14:41,640
which means tonight, of course,
if you are listening live on Friday.

884
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:44,520
Immediately following this program, we have
granted State of Mind. I stood

885
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by the Great Rob as a Veto
and Pauli Stone and then tonight I am

886
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back from eight to eleven PM for
Retro Spectrum Radio with Paul C. I

887
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,319
have the honor and privilege of being
one of Paul's co hosts on that show

888
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along with our friend CJ, Steve
and Mike for I'm Queen City Cabinetry.

889
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,199
So that will be tonight from a
to eleven PM. And this week the

890
01:15:03,319 --> 01:15:08,920
theme is twenty five Songs. Paul's
got twenty five songs lined up and it's

891
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:13,239
a it's another it's this game where
we have to try to figure out what

892
01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:17,399
do these songs all have in common? There is a theme of some sort,

893
01:15:17,479 --> 01:15:20,680
There is a commonality, if you
will, a through line, a

894
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:27,880
common thread with all of these songs. And last one we did, I

895
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,119
was able to figure it out pretty
quick. But we'll see how I do

896
01:15:30,239 --> 01:15:32,399
tonight. So so that will be
tonight from eight to eleven pm. I

897
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:39,239
do love my Fridays here at WMNH. We should mention to our amazing sponsor,

898
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899
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They have live music there every Saturday
night from eight to eleven. I'm

900
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sorry, from no from seven to
nine pm, eight to eleven. I'm

901
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thinking about Retrospectrum Radio Saturday nights from
seven to nine pm. They have live

902
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music, so Chad Verbeck is going
to be there. Uh this uh this

903
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Saturday Tomorrow night. A couple of
other things they've got coming up too.

904
01:16:01,199 --> 01:16:06,199
They've got on June seventeenth at ten
pm they have the Gender Blender drag show

905
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:11,840
after after Pride party, so that
will be on the seventeenth, And on

906
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:16,960
the twenty third they have Big Gay
Bingo. I don't know exactly what Big

907
01:16:17,039 --> 01:16:23,600
Gay Bingo is. Obviously it's bingo, but it's it's like bingo, like

908
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:27,640
regular bingo, but it's big and
gay. I guess Kenny kind of explained

909
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:30,720
it to me, but I didn't
get it. But that's okay. But

910
01:16:30,239 --> 01:16:34,359
that will be on Friday the twenty
third at ten pm, and then the

911
01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:39,800
Juneteenth Party a Sunday, June twenty
fifth. Is that say twenty fifth?

912
01:16:40,399 --> 01:16:44,479
I need to enlarge that. I
think it says twenty fifth. It's um.

913
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,720
I took a picture of the board
that he has up at the Hopknot

914
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:53,800
with everything's written in shock from one
to eight pm. So very good.

915
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:57,600
So lots of lots of good things
coming up. Of course, June is

916
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,319
a busy month. It's Pride month
and juneteenth, also in June. So

917
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:09,279
um, all right, sorry,
I was just distracted by something on my

918
01:17:09,319 --> 01:17:12,720
phone. I'm trying to make sure
I'm not forgetting to mention anything. Let's

919
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:16,640
see, we will let me give
the numbers and we will get back into

920
01:17:16,760 --> 01:17:20,960
the subject at hand. Six zo
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923
01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:32,720
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can email me Matt at matt Connerton dot

924
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interact endo Pine in the Facebook live chat,

925
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but the best thing to do so
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dulcet tones is to give us a
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927
01:17:44,159 --> 01:17:46,760
z seven six zo three two five
six z seven. By the way,

928
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:50,039
I see our friend Rocky Huber joins
us in the Facebook live chat. I

929
01:17:50,119 --> 01:17:54,520
know, with Rocky's work schedule,
he doesn't get to join us live as

930
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:57,039
often as he used to, but
he's in there. He says, hope

931
01:17:57,039 --> 01:18:00,800
everyone is doing well, Hello Rocky. I did see another new name in

932
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:08,760
the Facebook live chat too, Matthew. Is that Casecus or Kasakas or Katsakas.

933
01:18:09,359 --> 01:18:11,680
Sorry if I'm butchering your last name
is. I'm quite sure that I

934
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:16,239
am. But Matthew says definitely more
options and will likely never know the truth

935
01:18:16,479 --> 01:18:18,800
fact, And that was referring to
what I was talking about earlier in the

936
01:18:18,880 --> 01:18:24,439
first hour about I've never heard Trump
explain why he's never offered us an explanation

937
01:18:24,520 --> 01:18:28,479
of why he has those documents.
He's he's, uh, you know,

938
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:30,000
talk about how he has a right
to take them and this and that,

939
01:18:30,199 --> 01:18:44,000
but he's never explained why. Let's
see, let's look at So this is

940
01:18:44,199 --> 01:18:48,760
uh, this is from the Hill
dot com. Five major revelations from Trump's

941
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:56,680
federal indictment. So this is uh, let's look at this, and this

942
01:18:56,720 --> 01:19:00,720
will get people caught up to who
aren't clear on what's happened, you know

943
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:04,239
in Jack Smith, special prosecutor,
Special counsel Jack Smith did come out today

944
01:19:04,239 --> 01:19:06,720
and made a short statement that I
played at the top of the show today.

945
01:19:06,760 --> 01:19:11,239
But so again, this is from
the Hill. The Justice Department today

946
01:19:11,359 --> 01:19:15,479
unveiled unveiled a thirty seven count.
Oh I misspoke earlier, I said thirty

947
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:20,000
eight. It's only thirty seven.
Only unveiled a thirty seven count indictment against

948
01:19:20,079 --> 01:19:25,600
former President Trump over his handling of
classified materials after leaving the White House,

949
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:31,159
offering up an expansive look at the
evidence prosecutors collected. Oh, actually,

950
01:19:31,239 --> 01:19:35,720
we have a call. Oh we
did have a call. Looked like Jenny

951
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:45,600
was calling in Jenny callback. I
tried to pick it up, but it

952
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:48,520
says. The forty nine page document
provides significant insight into the nature of the

953
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:54,880
classified documents Trump had kept since leaving
the White House in January twenty twenty one,

954
01:19:55,720 --> 01:20:00,000
allegations about Trump's moves to obstruct attempts
to retrieve the documents, in detail

955
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:05,359
about instances where Trump is said to
have openly shared sensitive government secrets. All

956
01:20:05,439 --> 01:20:11,239
right, Jenny is back. Hello, Hey, Hey, I have my

957
01:20:11,399 --> 01:20:14,640
e speri as to why Trump did
it? Okay, Well, one word

958
01:20:14,680 --> 01:20:19,000
answer, yes, ego. It's
ego. He likes to show off,

959
01:20:19,159 --> 01:20:23,359
he likes to have trophies, he
likes to you know, look what I

960
01:20:23,439 --> 01:20:27,880
can do. It's his ego that
has led him down this road. I

961
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,359
don't think there was something to fire
us about it. I mean, at

962
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:33,880
least I hope not. But I
really feel like he ended up on this

963
01:20:34,079 --> 01:20:41,159
road just because his ego could be
going to show off. Yeah, it

964
01:20:41,199 --> 01:20:45,359
could be. I hope that's all
it is. I do too, because

965
01:20:45,439 --> 01:20:49,399
the alternative is really freaking scary,
especially when you look at what he had

966
01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:56,880
nuclear secrets and right, yeah,
that's what I have. I think it's

967
01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:59,479
his ego that let him down this
road and it's going to land him to

968
01:20:59,560 --> 01:21:01,920
a and so well, I don't
know. We'll see. I'll believe it

969
01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:06,000
when I see it, but we'll
see what happens, all right, Jenny,

970
01:21:06,199 --> 01:21:10,560
thank you, bye bye. Yeah. You know, we were talking

971
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:14,520
earlier in the first hour about you
know, different different theories about why he

972
01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:16,960
might have done this. But again, he never he never offered an explanation.

973
01:21:17,039 --> 01:21:20,279
But it may it may be that
simple. It may in fact be

974
01:21:20,399 --> 01:21:28,680
that simple, and that would comport
with Trump's personality. Um, let's see.

975
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:32,199
So here's um. Here are the
five biggest revelations from the indictment.

976
01:21:33,239 --> 01:21:38,760
We'll go through these. Oh.
Hello to Easybeat Flash in the Facebook live

977
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:42,880
chat. This is somebody new,
easybeat Flash says, although not from a

978
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,720
new place. Hello there, hashtag
Matt. We say to you from us.

979
01:21:46,119 --> 01:21:49,880
We are a pop singing group man
band of Easybeat Flash. We are

980
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:54,880
from Greensboro, North Carolina. We
are friends with Isaac Banks from Greensboro,

981
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:59,079
North Carolina. I suspect it as
much. And Easybeat Flash says, and

982
01:21:59,159 --> 01:22:02,359
this is the important thing. We
love your afternoon show hashtag Matt Connerton.

983
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:05,800
We said, well, I love
compliments. Easybeat Flash, thank you,

984
01:22:06,199 --> 01:22:11,479
all right. So it says here
again, this is the first revelation Trump

985
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:15,920
had documents with nuclear and military secrets. It says the indictment offers the most

986
01:22:16,439 --> 01:22:21,520
specific assessment of the kinds of documents
Trump had in his possession, and prosecutors

987
01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:27,119
alleged that among them were sensitive materials
related to the United States nuclear program.

988
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:33,600
The filing states, So this is
from the actual indictment quote. The classified

989
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:39,720
documents Trump stored in his boxes included
information regarding defense and weapons capabilities of both

990
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:45,199
the United States and foreign countries,
United States nuclear programs, potential vulnerabilities of

991
01:22:45,279 --> 01:22:53,640
the United States and its allies to
military attack, and plans for possible retaliation

992
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:58,600
and response to a foreign attacked attack. The unauthorized disclosure of these classified documents

993
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,680
could put at risk the national scurity
of the United States foreign relations, the

994
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:06,239
safety of the United States military and
human sources and the continued viability of sensitive

995
01:23:06,239 --> 01:23:12,479
intelligence collection methods unquote. That's from
the filing. The filing also cites to

996
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:16,800
December twenty twenty one incident where trump
aide Walt Nada, who, by the

997
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:21,239
way, has also been indicted today, who is also says here who has

998
01:23:21,239 --> 01:23:26,800
also charged in the indictment, finds
documents spilled on the floor of a Mara

999
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:31,840
Lago storage room. The documents were
labeled secret and only releasable to members of

1000
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:38,840
the Five Eyes Intelligence Alliance of the
US, Australia, the UK, Canada,

1001
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:44,600
and New Zealand. Well apparently,
also they could be seen by anyone

1002
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:50,880
who happened to stumble into that storage
unit. Apparently, let's see revelation number

1003
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:55,680
two. Trump pushed lawyers to help
cover up and by the way, this

1004
01:23:55,800 --> 01:24:00,560
is something we've heard about, like
the attorney who you know, signed that

1005
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:02,399
affidavit saying, oh, yeah,
yeah, you've got it. You've got

1006
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:04,760
all the documents. Were good,
you got everything, Now go away.

1007
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:11,239
We gave you everything. Turned out
not to be true. Oops. Anyway,

1008
01:24:11,399 --> 01:24:15,239
it says here. The indictment details
multiple incidents in which Trump pressured his

1009
01:24:15,359 --> 01:24:19,920
lawyers to withhold documents from the government, including asking them to tell authorities he

1010
01:24:20,039 --> 01:24:24,640
did not have them. Yeah,
just tell him you haven't seen them.

1011
01:24:26,079 --> 01:24:31,000
In another instance, he suggested his
attorney quote hide or destroy unquote the documents

1012
01:24:31,039 --> 01:24:36,119
that were being sought by a May
eleven subpoena seeking the return of all classified

1013
01:24:36,199 --> 01:24:42,119
records. The filing also relies on
notes obtained from Trump attorney Evan Corkran,

1014
01:24:42,479 --> 01:24:47,359
who had attorney client privileges pierced in
connection with the probe after a judge determined

1015
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:54,680
that he may have been misled by
Trump. Yeah, there's ways you know,

1016
01:24:55,479 --> 01:25:00,760
and about that for anyone who's not
clear on this. You have attorney

1017
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:04,000
client privilege, of course, where
anything if you're an attorney, anything you

1018
01:25:04,079 --> 01:25:10,319
and your client discuss is is privileged
between the two of you, unless there's

1019
01:25:10,359 --> 01:25:15,359
something called the crime fraud exception,
which means that you and your attorney you

1020
01:25:15,600 --> 01:25:23,680
cannot conspire together to commit a crime
or or obstruction of justice. For example.

1021
01:25:24,079 --> 01:25:31,640
That's why if you say you you've
done something and your attorney who represents

1022
01:25:31,720 --> 01:25:35,239
you, well, you would never
want to say to your attorney, just

1023
01:25:36,039 --> 01:25:40,279
not that I know from personal experience, I'm I always say I'm so clean,

1024
01:25:40,319 --> 01:25:43,159
I'm boring. I've never uh,
you know, I don't even spit

1025
01:25:43,199 --> 01:25:46,720
on the sidewalk, as I like
to say. But but if you are

1026
01:25:46,800 --> 01:25:50,520
accused of something, and you have
an attorney, and you actually did do

1027
01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:56,600
the thing that you're accused of,
you don't want to tell your attorney,

1028
01:25:56,960 --> 01:25:59,600
by the way, I actually did
do this. But you know, we're

1029
01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:02,680
gonna we're going to try to make
a jury think that I didn't write.

1030
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:06,079
You know, you would never want
to say anything like that because now your

1031
01:26:06,119 --> 01:26:13,960
attorney knows that you're guilty. And
now now you've got a problem because now

1032
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:19,199
you know that that might now you're
you and your your attorney are effectively colluding

1033
01:26:19,279 --> 01:26:25,479
in a way to uh to get
one over on the court. It's um,

1034
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:30,760
I know the You know again,
I'm not a legal expert of any

1035
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:33,720
kind, so I'm probably not explaining
it exactly right. But that's my understanding

1036
01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:43,479
of it. You and your attorney
cannot conspire to obstruct justice or or commit

1037
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:46,479
any kind of fraud, because if
you do, that is no longer privileged.

1038
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:51,239
The court then regards the client the
attorney client privilege as being having been

1039
01:26:51,319 --> 01:26:56,600
pierced, and it is null in
that case. Okay, so that's that's

1040
01:26:56,640 --> 01:27:00,680
what happened here with Evan Corkran.
Corkran notes that made a plucking motion.

1041
01:27:01,159 --> 01:27:06,239
When Corkran was preparing to turn over
thirty eight documents in response to the subpoena,

1042
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:12,399
Corkran wrote, quote, he made
a funny motion as though, well,

1043
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:15,199
okay, why don't you make them
with you? Oh I'm sorry,

1044
01:27:15,239 --> 01:27:18,560
why don't you take them with you
to your hotel room and if there's anything

1045
01:27:18,640 --> 01:27:21,479
really bad in there, like,
you know, pluck it out. And

1046
01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:28,840
that was the motion he made.
He didn't say that unt. The incident

1047
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:33,560
details how NADA moved sixty four boxes
of documents between a conversation about complying with

1048
01:27:33,640 --> 01:27:44,800
the subpoena and the attorney's Drew June
trip to sort out the records. Third

1049
01:27:45,039 --> 01:27:50,479
takeaway from the indictment or revelation Trump
showed sensitive documents to others at least twice.

1050
01:27:51,279 --> 01:27:57,199
The filing details two specific instances where
Trump is alleged to have shared highly

1051
01:27:57,279 --> 01:28:02,199
sensitive materials with individuals at is Bedminster, New Jersey club who did not have

1052
01:28:02,359 --> 01:28:11,720
security clearances. The first came in
July twenty twenty one, when Trump is

1053
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:15,600
said to have shown and described a
plan of attack prepared for him by Pentagon

1054
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:19,840
officials while in the White House.
The meeting, which was with a writer,

1055
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:24,479
publisher, and two staff members,
was recorded. None of the other

1056
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:30,439
individuals present had security clearances. The
indictment contains a transcript of the conversation between

1057
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:36,600
Trump and a staffer in which he
describes the document as secret information. Trump

1058
01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:41,760
tells the staffer, quote, see, as President, I could have declassified

1059
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:45,439
it. Now I can't you know, but this is still a secret unquote.

1060
01:28:46,079 --> 01:28:49,720
The staffer responds with a laugh.
Yeah, Now we have a problem,

1061
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:59,079
unte sure do. The filing also
details a second incident in August or

1062
01:28:59,119 --> 01:29:02,119
September of twenty twenty one, in
which Trump showed a representative of his Political

1063
01:29:02,159 --> 01:29:06,760
Action Committee who did not possess a
security clearance a classified map related to a

1064
01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:11,800
military operation. Trump is said to
have told the associate during the meeting at

1065
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:15,960
Bedminster Club that he should not be
showing it to the person and that they

1066
01:29:15,119 --> 01:29:26,279
should not get too close. Fourth
takeaway documents were stored across Mara Lago.

1067
01:29:28,359 --> 01:29:31,640
The indictment states that Trump stored the
documents in various locations at mar Lago following

1068
01:29:31,680 --> 01:29:36,520
the end of his presidency and moved
on multiple occasions. Some of the boxes

1069
01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:42,560
containing documents that Trump had taken were
initially stored at the property's gold and White

1070
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:47,479
ballroom, where major events often happened
between January and March fifteen of twenty twenty

1071
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:51,439
one. At one point, the
boxes were stacked on the ballrooms stage.

1072
01:29:56,520 --> 01:30:01,920
Just imagine a band playing up there. Somebody, you know, guitar player

1073
01:30:02,359 --> 01:30:08,520
is really getting into it and he
bumps into a stack of boxes and secrets

1074
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:16,960
spill everywhere. Nata and other Trump
staff members then moved the boxes to the

1075
01:30:17,079 --> 01:30:27,720
business center. A text conversation between
two Trump employees dude, okay, listen,

1076
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:32,199
hang out a second. If you're
doing something bad, don't text about

1077
01:30:32,239 --> 01:30:43,760
it. Amateurs, amateurs. A
text conversation between two Trump employees included in

1078
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:49,159
the court documents reveals that one employee
said Trump specifically asks them to be moved

1079
01:30:49,279 --> 01:30:55,680
to the business center because they were
his papers. Some boxes were transported from

1080
01:30:55,720 --> 01:31:00,399
the business center, which some staff
wanted to use as an office, to

1081
01:31:00,560 --> 01:31:08,239
a bathroom and shower in the properties
lake room gets better and better, it

1082
01:31:08,279 --> 01:31:12,880
doesn't it. The indictment states that
Trump had a storage room on the ground

1083
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:16,079
floor cleaned out in May twenty twenty
one, so it could store the boxes.

1084
01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:20,560
The boxes in the lake room were
taken there the next month. Prosecutors

1085
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:27,439
noted that the hallway leading a storage
room could be reached quote from multiple outside

1086
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:30,680
entrances. The mar Lago Club was
not an authorized location for the storage,

1087
01:31:30,720 --> 01:31:34,880
possession, review, display, or
discussion of classified documents. Nevertheless, Trump

1088
01:31:34,960 --> 01:31:42,239
stored his boxes containing classified documents in
various locations at the Marlago Club, including

1089
01:31:42,399 --> 01:31:45,279
in a ballroom, a bathroom and
shower, and office spaces, bedroom,

1090
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:53,840
and a storage room. Unt The
indictment states, if we just spread them

1091
01:31:53,880 --> 01:32:00,640
around everywhere, the FBI will never
find them all. The filing says that

1092
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:06,000
during the August search of Mara Lago, authorities seized twenty seven classified documents from

1093
01:32:06,039 --> 01:32:10,920
Trump's office and seventy five classified documents
from the storage room. Of those one

1094
01:32:11,039 --> 01:32:17,279
hundred two documents, seventeen were labeled
top secret. In the fifth revelation here,

1095
01:32:19,399 --> 01:32:26,039
Trump was told he was a target
of investigation on May nineteen, ah

1096
01:32:26,239 --> 01:32:30,239
Yes, Outside of the indictment itself, new court filings reveal a timeline of

1097
01:32:30,319 --> 01:32:36,319
the final days of Special Counsel Jack
Smith's investigation. The special counsel's office informed

1098
01:32:36,359 --> 01:32:40,680
Trump that he was a target in
the Grand Jury's investigation on May nineteen,

1099
01:32:41,079 --> 01:32:45,199
roughly three weeks before jurors voted to
indict him. Nada was similarly informed he

1100
01:32:45,319 --> 01:32:48,920
was a target on May twenty four, according to the documents, just ahead

1101
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:53,279
of the indictment. Trump declined to
respond directly when asked by The New York

1102
01:32:53,319 --> 01:32:57,680
Times if he had been identified as
a target. The Grand Jury returned the

1103
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:05,359
indictment yesterday. The prosecutor earlier today
requested it to be unsealed. Trump and

1104
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:10,479
Nada were set to make their first
of court appearance on Tuesday at three pm

1105
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:16,159
Eastern in the Wilkie D. Ferguson
Building in Miami. Yeah. Apparently,

1106
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:24,640
so, from what I understand,
when you're a so Trump would have received

1107
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:29,760
what's called a target letter, which
is where they inform you that you are

1108
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:32,439
a target in the investigation. You're
not simply being treated as a witness,

1109
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:38,840
but you are a target. And
once you get a target letter, that

1110
01:33:39,159 --> 01:33:43,119
typically means an indictment is imminent.
So it's kind of a heads up,

1111
01:33:43,159 --> 01:33:46,560
get ready, because yes, we
are about to indicte you. So there

1112
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:50,079
you go. By the way,
here in Manchester that once again, the

1113
01:33:50,159 --> 01:33:54,600
storm seems to have missed us.
Now the sun's out. It's beautiful outside.

1114
01:33:55,239 --> 01:33:59,000
Actually, if you'd like to get
in with a call six three two

1115
01:33:59,079 --> 01:34:03,359
five six six three two five six
seven, the studio line is open.

1116
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:12,199
Uh. Let's see. So those
were the five major takeaways according to The

1117
01:34:12,319 --> 01:34:16,720
Hill dot com. Um Mike Pence, Uh, let's see what he had

1118
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:25,439
to say. This is from Media
I. Mike Pence says unsealed Trump criminal

1119
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:30,680
indictment deeply troubling and no one is
above the law. So, as one

1120
01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:34,079
would expect from the former vice president, what we're about to get here is

1121
01:34:34,119 --> 01:34:40,239
a very mixed message and it doesn't
quite follow logically. But he continues to

1122
01:34:40,359 --> 01:34:45,079
walk that tight rope uh uh,
that he seemed to be ready to almost

1123
01:34:45,680 --> 01:34:50,199
stop doing during his announcement of his
candidacy. But no, he's back on

1124
01:34:50,279 --> 01:34:54,760
the type rope on a tight rope. On on the one hand, he

1125
01:34:55,000 --> 01:34:59,079
uh, well, you'll see what
I mean it says here again, this

1126
01:34:59,199 --> 01:35:01,359
is from media I dot com,
speaking of reporters in New Hampshire today.

1127
01:35:01,399 --> 01:35:06,239
Apparently Mike Pence is in the state. Presidential candidate Mike Pence called the federal

1128
01:35:06,279 --> 01:35:11,920
criminal indictment against Trump deeply troubling.
The former vice president and his comments today

1129
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:16,239
criticized the Department of Justice for bringing
the indictment against Trump, but then went

1130
01:35:16,279 --> 01:35:21,000
on to argue that quote, no
one is above the law unquote. See,

1131
01:35:24,159 --> 01:35:30,039
I mean he really it's it's this
weird sort of like he takes he

1132
01:35:30,159 --> 01:35:35,560
takes the concept of what a boutism
and morphs it into this whole new thing.

1133
01:35:38,640 --> 01:35:42,399
Here's what he had to say,
quote, I think it is deeply

1134
01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:46,239
troubling to see an indictment against the
former president of the United States, agreed.

1135
01:35:47,680 --> 01:35:50,520
I had hoped the Department of Justice
would see its way clear to solve

1136
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:56,039
this without an indictment, and said
so earlier this week. An indictment against

1137
01:35:56,079 --> 01:36:00,399
the former president is going to be
extraordinarily divisive at a very challenge time for

1138
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:02,560
American families, and I also believe
it sends a terrible message to the wider

1139
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:12,920
world. Now let's stop on that
for a moment. If the Department of

1140
01:36:13,039 --> 01:36:15,319
Justice has a case, they know
they have a case, they don't bring

1141
01:36:15,359 --> 01:36:23,960
an indictment unless they're confident that they
have a case. If don't, you

1142
01:36:24,039 --> 01:36:27,800
think it would be awfully divisive also, I mean, this is divisive,

1143
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:30,600
of course, But wouldn't it also
be divisive for the Department of Justice to

1144
01:36:30,720 --> 01:36:32,840
just say, yeah, yeah,
now we're good, We're not going to

1145
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:35,840
pursue this. That would be divisive. That would make a lot of people

1146
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:40,840
angry. He says, it sends
a terrible message to the wider world.

1147
01:36:41,359 --> 01:36:44,279
Well, what kind of a message
would it send to the wider world if

1148
01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:47,560
if the Department of Justice said,
well, yeah, you know, this

1149
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:53,000
is what happened. But as a
former president, he's currently a candidate,

1150
01:36:53,079 --> 01:36:56,159
so we're just gonna we're just gonna
forget it. What kind of a message

1151
01:36:56,159 --> 01:37:00,600
would that send? Now, the
next part of what Trump says, he

1152
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:04,279
also says, quote that being said, let me be clear on a few

1153
01:37:04,359 --> 01:37:09,319
points. No one is above the
law in America. We have to stand

1154
01:37:09,399 --> 01:37:15,319
on the rule of law, irrespective
of politics. Agreed. Okay. Secondly,

1155
01:37:15,399 --> 01:37:18,439
the handling of classified materials is a
very serious matter in the station,

1156
01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:24,119
my years as Vice president, my
years serving on the International Relations Committee in

1157
01:37:24,119 --> 01:37:29,119
the House of Representatives, it's important
that we protect our nation's secrets. Agreed.

1158
01:37:30,279 --> 01:37:32,760
Then he says, quote it's one
of the reasons why during the multiple

1159
01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:34,920
see this is what. This is
a game he's going to play. So

1160
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:40,039
he's going to try to turn this
around on Biden, which is problematic for

1161
01:37:40,079 --> 01:37:42,199
a couple of reasons. But this
is what he says next. He says,

1162
01:37:42,279 --> 01:37:45,880
quote, it's one of the reasons
why during the multiple disclosures at President

1163
01:37:45,960 --> 01:37:49,600
Biden's home of classified materials that he
had maintained as vice president and as president,

1164
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:55,279
that we thought it was appropriate to
have our records examined, and we

1165
01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:59,439
found that there was a small number
of classified materials that had been stored inadvertently

1166
01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:04,159
with our materials as well unquote.
So he tries to sneak in a knock

1167
01:38:04,239 --> 01:38:10,479
on Biden. Actually, that's fine, but you know, and he did

1168
01:38:10,600 --> 01:38:16,479
take responsibility for the documents that he
had, which is good. Then he

1169
01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:21,960
says that his team quote fully cooperated
with the FBI's investigation unquote, and that

1170
01:38:23,039 --> 01:38:27,039
he takes full responsibility for it.
He continued, quote, I'm pleased that

1171
01:38:27,279 --> 01:38:30,560
last week the Department of Justice ruled
that it was an innocent mistake. But

1172
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:34,359
let me be clear, it was
an innocent mistake, and the nation's secrets

1173
01:38:34,399 --> 01:38:41,880
are absolutely vital to securing the country
in the days ahead unquote. So but

1174
01:38:42,159 --> 01:38:48,840
the contradiction here is obvious. Right. He spends uh several sentences talking about

1175
01:38:48,920 --> 01:38:54,520
how well, this is divisive.
This is divisive, so you know,

1176
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:59,800
you can't you can't pursue that.
The Department of Justice shouldn't be pursuing this.

1177
01:39:00,000 --> 01:39:02,880
It's too divisive. It's going to
upset people. And then he goes

1178
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:05,479
on to say, but there's no
one is above the law. Well,

1179
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:10,960
which is it, dude? You
can't have both. You can't say,

1180
01:39:11,479 --> 01:39:15,319
well, you know people are gonna
be mad, so they probably shouldn't pursue

1181
01:39:15,399 --> 01:39:17,720
this. But no one is above
the law. No, you, Mike

1182
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:24,039
Pence, and every single person who
tries to play this game of well,

1183
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:28,600
you know, he is a former
president and he is currently a candidate,

1184
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:32,600
so probably shouldn't be indicting him for
anything. You literally are saying that he

1185
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:40,479
is above the law. You are
saying politicians are above the law. It's

1186
01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:44,920
like when I saw him, I
think it was on Hannity. This was

1187
01:39:45,239 --> 01:39:47,239
like maybe a month ago, Mike
Pence. He goes on Hannity, Right,

1188
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:53,239
he pulls out this line, and
I guess that show as a studio

1189
01:39:53,239 --> 01:39:57,199
audience now because people were applauding when
he said this. He's talking about how

1190
01:39:57,279 --> 01:40:00,680
he thinks that Trump is being treated
so and fairly by the criminal justice system.

1191
01:40:01,239 --> 01:40:04,399
And then he has this applause line, right, And you can tell

1192
01:40:04,399 --> 01:40:08,159
he knows it's an applause line because
he says it a little more forcefully,

1193
01:40:08,359 --> 01:40:11,239
you know, with about as much
force and passion as an empty husk like

1194
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:15,960
Mike Pence is able to muster.
He says Americans are tired of a two

1195
01:40:15,039 --> 01:40:19,840
tiered criminal justice system, and then
everyone in the studio applauds. I don't

1196
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:24,399
know if these people even knew what
they were applauding for, because usually when

1197
01:40:24,479 --> 01:40:28,640
somebody says something like that, yeah, actually, he's right, there are

1198
01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:31,479
a lot of Americans who are tired
of a two tiered criminal justice system.

1199
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:36,439
The thing is, when most people
talk about having a two tiered criminal justice

1200
01:40:36,439 --> 01:40:42,119
system that they're tired of. What
they talk about is they're tired of the

1201
01:40:42,239 --> 01:40:46,199
elite, the powerful, the wealthy
always finding ways, partly because they have

1202
01:40:46,319 --> 01:40:50,760
the power and the connections and the
wealth to find ways to escape accountability and

1203
01:40:50,920 --> 01:40:54,960
get away with whatever they want.
And then there's the rest of us who

1204
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:59,399
are held accountable. Right, That's
what most people mean when they say a

1205
01:40:59,479 --> 01:41:05,319
two tiered criminal justice system. People
of means people of power, people of

1206
01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:11,079
influence, people with wealth. They're
not held to the same standard as the

1207
01:41:11,159 --> 01:41:14,479
rest of us, partly because they
can buy their way out. And I

1208
01:41:14,520 --> 01:41:15,880
don't mean with bribes. I just
mean, you know, if you're a

1209
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:18,640
wealthy person and you get in trouble, you have the money to hire a

1210
01:41:18,760 --> 01:41:24,319
great lawyer who's gonna help you through
it. Right, if you're a poor

1211
01:41:24,439 --> 01:41:27,800
person and you get into trouble,
can't afford a lawyer, might get stuck

1212
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:30,399
with a public defender. No disrespect
to public defenders. They're important and they

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respect them, but they tend to
be overworked, overwhelmed. They can only

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do so much, you know.
And that's that's what people mean when they

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talk about a two tiered criminal justice
system. But then here's Mike Pence on

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Hannity's saying Americans are tired of a
two tiered criminal justice system, and then

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everybody in the audience goes, yeah, they're applauding, like yeah, that's

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right. It's like, what do
people even know what you're applauding for,

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Because the way Mike Pets is saying
it, it sounds like he's saying.

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Sounds like he's saying, in that
moment, Americans are tired of a standard

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of one standard of justice for President
Trump and another standard of justice for everyone

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else. Sounded like that's what he
was saying, and I guess that was

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what he was saying. And then
these people applaud and it's like, none

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of you even understand what you're applauding
for. It's so weird. It's weird

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watching him try to balance this,
and it's fairly sad and pathetic. Frankly.

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Uh, let's see, we are
rapidly running out of time on today's

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program, and I'm probably gonna end
with one more Shane ballantrack. Will probably

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play the one that I opened with
today, opened the show with Today.

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We'll finish out with that one too, the title track from the album String

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Pain, Protect Projection. I keep
wanting to say Protection, it's Projection.

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So we'll we'll wrap up with that. But hey, it is Friday,

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so don't forget immediately following the show
if you're listening live on Friday, we

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have granted State of Mind, hosted
by Rob as a Veto and Pauli Stone.

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01:43:10,920 --> 01:43:12,800
I don't know who the guest is
on their show this week, but

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they always have a great show there, it's just in the summer months.

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01:43:15,199 --> 01:43:19,520
They record the show out at Pembroke
City Limits and it's really good, really

1237
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:23,560
good stuff. And then of course
I will be back live tonight from eight

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01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:28,960
to eleven pm for retro Spectrum Radio
with PAULC along with DJ Steve and Mike

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01:43:29,039 --> 01:43:33,079
from Queen City Cabinetry. And this
week the theme of the show is We've

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01:43:33,119 --> 01:43:36,520
got twenty five songs and we all
have to try to figure out what the

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01:43:36,920 --> 01:43:42,079
what the theme is among those twenty
five songs. What do these twenty five

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01:43:42,199 --> 01:43:45,119
songs have in common? So that
will be tonight from eight to eleven pm

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01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:51,199
on Retrospectrum Radio. And don't forget
tomorrow night. At Tomorrow Night at the

1244
01:43:51,279 --> 01:43:57,079
Hop not Chad Verbeck will be playing
live from I believe seven to nine pm,

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01:43:57,159 --> 01:44:00,920
so they've got live music. And
hey, if you're in Manchester,

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01:44:00,039 --> 01:44:02,359
get outside and enjoy the weather.
It looks like it's really nice now.

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01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:05,680
It looked like it. We even
got an alert that there were going to

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01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:11,279
be these terrible storms, but now
it looks like it's right back to being

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01:44:11,319 --> 01:44:14,439
a beautiful day. So it's it's
been good weather. It's been good weather,

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01:44:14,560 --> 01:44:15,800
all right. If you miss any
part of today's show, it will

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01:44:15,840 --> 01:44:20,000
be up in just a little bit
at WMH radio dot org and on my

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01:44:20,119 --> 01:44:25,840
website Matt Connerton dot com. And
I will leave you with one more track

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01:44:26,560 --> 01:44:29,439
from the great Shane bal And.
Thank you again to Shane for joining us

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01:44:29,479 --> 01:44:31,720
earlier. And this is the title
track from his upcoming new album, This

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01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:40,720
is String Pain. Projection almost did
it again to close out today's Matt Connerton

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01:44:40,840 --> 01:44:44,800
Unleashed here from the studios of WMH
ninety five point three FM. Thank you

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01:44:44,880 --> 01:44:47,039
all, and I will talk to
y'all a little bit later. Hopefully I'll

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01:44:47,199 --> 01:44:49,800
see you tonight for retro Spectrum Radio