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the Secret Teaching show on Ground zero
Radio. Ryan Gable, Welcome back.

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How's it going, my friend,
Hey is going good? Rider? Thanks

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for having me back again. Always
wonderful and always enjoy speaking with you.

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And it feels like, Ryan,
we're going further and further into dystopian land.

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Have you seen Apple this new VR
headset? Oh yes, I've seen

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all the different types of headsets that
have come out from Oculus and Facebook and

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a bunch of other companies over the
years. Yes, well this one is

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different, dude, this one's different. If you haven't seen it, I

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have a little clip right here.
It doesn't have any audio so we can

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speak over it. But this is
an actual Apple ad And it seems like

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that. You remember the movie Gamer
with Gerard Butler where they would put on

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the VR goggles and they would be
inside of the video game. Like this

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is almost identical. You see how
like it's getting like they can control it's

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like in front of them, and
they can control how big the screen is.

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They can do the wide angle thing. It's insane. And there's a

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video that I clipped into the end
of this preview that shows people just walking

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around in like public and doing this
weird thing. They equated it to a

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black Mirror episode. And this is
a real thing, and it was talked

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about for a really long time,
and now it's like finally here here's the

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clip. Look at this guy.
That's one step above walking with your cell

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phone in front of your face everywhere. Look at this guy. Look at

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what he's doing. He's just walking
across the street. Look at that.

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Look at him. You know what
reminds me of does the Pokemon Go?

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Where you'd have this fake reality overlaid
on real reality on the physical world.

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Right, you go catch these digital
Pokemon what they call that augmented reality as

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opposed to virtual reality, but augmented
are augmented reality. Yeah, that's what

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it really And it seems like that
Pokemon Go. I play Pokemon Go a

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little bit. Okay, if you
didn't play Pokemon Go, there's something wrong

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with you, did you really?
You know? Grow up in the I

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didn't play it, but I still
have a lot of the old game.

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I have the original Red Charizard Pokemon
game for my game Boy in a box

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somewhere. That's the good stuff,
dude. Pokemon Yellow and Red was my

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favorite saint. That's exactly what I
have, red and yellow, little Pikachu

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in the front of the yellow.
Yeah, phenomenal, even gold, gold,

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silver, and Crystal was amazing too. Pokemon Crystal was amazing because it

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combined the first generation games with the
second generation games, so you had like

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not only eight badges to get in
the first part of the game, you

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had another eight badges to go through
on the other side of the map,

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which I thought was incredible. They
never really made a game like that ever.

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Again, well, I mean they
remade them. They made them for

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the DS. I think it was
Pokemon something silver, but they ended up

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making them and you could do that. But yeah, dude, this is

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really really strange. Is it not
really weird? Like it's I'll go ahead.

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It's just what people have been talking
about for a really long time,

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that we're going to have this wearable
like VR augmented type of thing and then

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it's going to transfer into something that
is inside of it. It's like,

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it's wild, dude, and we're
seeing it happen in like real time.

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And hold on, let me pull
up the actual Apple website here. It's

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a slow, incremental process by which
we go from having technology that we can

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hold a technology that we can wear, to technology that we implant, to

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technology that becomes a part of us. And in this case here what you're

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showing this, I think is the
definition of what it means to be a

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cyborg. Not that that's necessarily bad
or good, but it certainly is a

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lot different than what we would imagine
in sci fi movies, where we have

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all these wires sticking out of us. In this case, it's just a

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fun thing that we attach to ourselves
and we can use our hands to watch

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movies and pick things up in a
digital environment. This is one step ahead

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of the metaverse from Zuckerberg. I
think, yeah, and you can be

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watching TV then looks like a TV, but the TV isn't really there.

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You can control it with your your
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which Siria plays a role into that
whole thing as well. You've never seen

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anything like this before, Ryan,
We've seen. We've seen. We've seen

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plenty of things like that before,
usually in sci fi movies. And of

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course, when I wrote my book
about technology seven eight eight years ago,

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nine years ago, I talked about
all the at the time, the advancements

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in this type of technology. Remember, for a while we had those Google

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smart glasses that people were taking into
bathrooms and doing really kind of malicious stuff

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with them, so those were deep
popular. We saw the same thing with

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the metaverse that was kind of depopularized. And now I can't imagine that this

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catches on any more than those things. But it's different though. This is

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Apple. This is a different thing
other than like Google and all those other

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ones did not do as well.
But Apple has never done this before,

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so I see it just getting better
and better. This is like the first

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gin of it, and a few
people will get it, and then there

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will be like a second gin and
a third gin, and just like everything

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else, people aren't going to be
interested in it in the beginning that much.

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But the longer that it's out there
and the more that other people see

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the direction that it's going, they're
going to jump in on it. And

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they could be completely one against it
right now, but once it becomes popular

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and enough people have it, they're
going to jump on board. I know

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I won't. I know that a
lot of my listeners with the Secret Teaching

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still like AI generated images, and
still people message me and ask me,

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can I make something using AI using
your voice or your image or this or

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that, and I tell them,
no, I don't want to have any

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of that associated with what I do. I mean, if there's an interesting

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image I might use for a promo, but like, personally, I don't

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want to be associated with any of
this stuff. I mean, it's bad

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enough. When you had smart TVs, we learned that on the website of

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like Samsung, it was watching and
listening and sending data to third parties into

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law enforcement, and for years and
years that was denied. Those TVs can't

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do that. Your cell phone doesn't
listen. Your cell phone doesn't take data

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and share with the company or potentially
with third parties with law enforcement and these

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types of things too. Like it
just strikes me as maybe for someone that

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has a handicap, maybe for somebody
who wants to play a game, but

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this stuff, it seems, this
is my opinion. I don't know what

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you think, right, but for
me, it seems this stuff is the

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the way of the future in the
sense that it has been pushed and promoted

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and developed in a way where this
is the next stage of human evolution.

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You don't need your eyeballs anymore or
your other senses. Now you need this

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technology that Apple controls or Google or
whatever the company is. It's the next

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stage of human evolution, which has
also been suggested on the front of major

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magazines before, where we go from
caveman to cyborg. Yeah, I agree

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with that. I'm trying to figure
out what the price of this thing is

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A lot your soul. Why is
there not a freaking tabbed? You know

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how much it is. It's an
Apple product, so it's going to be

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very expensive. Let's see, my
guess is it been available yet? I

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gussing is probably going to be thirty
four Yeah. See, this is the

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thing that gets me about this type
of thing, which I mean in ten

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years maybe if this catches on,
this will be you know, five hundred

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bucks or two hundred bucks or whatever
the case is, just like with cell

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phones. But people that buy this
kind of thing, like the market for

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this type of technology. First of
all, it's people that have a lot

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of money at the beginning, but
once it expands and other people can get

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access to it. The people that
I've known that have used stuff like this

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are usually people that and this isn't
a judgment, it's just in my experience

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anecdotally, in my experience, people
that use this kind of stuff are people

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that like generally don't do much else
in their life, so they don't travel,

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they don't really go outside, they
watch TV and sit on their phones

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all day. And it's like they
buy this technology because it's marketed as this

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new experience. You can relive pictures
and videos, you can play games that

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immerse you in the game, and
it's this idea that you can even use

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this technology to go to who sites
around the world like World Heritage sites and

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explore them as if you were watching
a video or you were actually there.

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What doesn't make sense to me.
It's like the market for that kind of

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thing is not someone who goes hiking
every day. It's someone who sets them

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the couch all day and it's marketed
them as this thing that allows them to

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see the world. It's like,
you've not seen the world, so you

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can go see the world, but
then this thing is going to bring the

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world to you, so you don't
go anywhere, you just do it all

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from your couch. There's something weird
about that to me. Now, it's

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like the people that are using this
technology that are really finding appeal in it,

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and who it's marketed towards they're being
marketed to in a way that's like,

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Hey, there's this wonderful world in
this digital environment you haven't seen.

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It's like you also haven't seen the
real world either, apparently, because if

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you've seen the real world, you
probably wouldn't be as interested in this digital

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world. That's my assessment anyway.
I agree, And it reminds me of

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this movie that I watched not too
long ago with uh, with Hugh Jackman

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named uh this one right here,
Reminiscence. Have you seen this movie?

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I don't think so. I think
that's what I'm not seen. Uh.

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It's almost exactly like what you're talking
about. A private investigator of the mind

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navigates a darkly alluring world of the
past by helping his clients access lost memories.

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Living on the fringes of a sunken
Miami coast, his life is forever

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changed as he uncovers a violent conspiracy
while trying to solve the mystery behind the

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client who disappeared. And it's almost
identical to like what you're seeing that it's

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basically a technology driven movie where they
put you in like a vat of like

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water and then they put this VR
type of goggle thing on tat sort of.

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But then they put take like a
chip of like a memory or whatever

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it is that you want to live
and they insert that in there, and

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these people go and pay this guy
to go back and relive past memories,

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and it creates all the sensation of
that past memory. It's like you're actually

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there. You know that the technology
for this has been in some capacity around

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for was about a decade now,
and it's slowly and slowly advancing into more

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sophisticated forms and versions. And you
know, if you look at the different

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companies that have been developing this,
they tend to do it like a lot

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of technology and concert with one another. You know, it's like one idea

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that everybody takes at the same time
and tries to beat everybody to the market.

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So on one level, it's definitely
a capitalistic thing, which I'm not

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opposed to capitalism. I'm all for
it. Make as much money, as

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much money as you can possibly make, and then make a bunch more,

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produce things and get people jobs.
That's all good for me. It's different

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than predatory capitalism. But that's like
on a very economic level, that's what

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drives a lot of this culture and
science fiction also drives a little bit of

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that, and that feeds into the
economics of it. But I think that

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there are certainly more malicious entities and
actors that are concerned with using such a

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thing to further distance and distract people
from what is going on around them.

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When you look at things like shadow
banning and algorithmic algorithmic manipulation and things in

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food and water that are intentionally put
there or as a result of negligence that

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really prevent people from being able to
access their full potential and to see the

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world around them, there have to
be nefarious actors who want to use this

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technology to really lock humanity in a
place that will not allow them to i

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guess, even physically see the world, like literally to see the world around

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them, not just pulling the wool
over your eyes, but by quite literally

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blinding you to reality. So again, it's economic, it's sci fi,

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etc. But it's also I'm sure
there's a malicious element to this as well.

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It's probably not the engineers at Apple
that are just going home to their

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families and making this. Just like
the guy that made Skynet in the Terminator,

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he wasn't he was doing it to
save lives with the planes because pilots

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were tired, Right, That's kind
of the part of the moral of that

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story too. Yeah. And it's
just interesting too that this Apple VR set

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drops at almost the exact same time
that Elon Musk, his Neurlink implant has

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been put into the first human being. Really interesting. Elon Musk Neurlink has

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implanted his first chip into a human
brain. They were going to monkeys before

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that, right, Yes, And
this is from the Scientific American. The

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wealthiest person on earth has taken the
next step toward commercial brain interface. Billionaire

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technology just Elon Musk announced this week
that his company Neurallink, has implanted its

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brain computer interface into a human for
the first time. The recipient was recovering

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well. Musk rode on a social
media platform x formuly Twitter on Monday evening,

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adding to this that the initial results
showed promising neuro spike detection reference to

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brain cells electroactivity. Each wireless Neurallink
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of more than one hundred one thousand
super thin flexible conductors that a surgical robot

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threads into the sebral cortex. There
The electros are designed to register thoughts related

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to motion and must version and app
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sensor to produce text. In short, it will be enable computer control by

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thinking. Imagine if Stephen Hockey can
communicate faster speed, that is the goal.

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Musk wrote on the first neuralink product, which he said is named telepathy.

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Yeah, you know that. Stephen
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to do math problems on a chalkboard
they couldn't reach. That came out in

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the Epstein documents. Did you read
that? Do you think that that's true?

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Though? I would imagine something to
that effect is true. If not

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that exactly that sounds. I've heard
a lot of nasty stuff about Stephen hackeing.

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I wouldn't be surprised if that's true. I feel like that's just them

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making fun of people. Oh very
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mean, either way you slice it, there's a powerful group of people within

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that realm operating. They think that's
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ARS. It's an ideology. It's
not like a group of I don't think

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conspiratories. It's an ideology that they
think humans are imperfect, So we can

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replace organic life with synthetic life,
and we can replace five cents reality with

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a false digital reality. I think
that's an ideology. I think it's a

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cult. Well, the way that
you would take the punch out of those

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documents being released is you would make
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people laugh, like with athology exactly, like with ufology, like with like

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what you're just talking about with Stephen
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on a chalkboard and they can't reach
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taking the weight. It's almost like
a Marvel movie, right, a Marvel

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movie that's made Now they've inserted so
much comedy into the movies that anything that

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has gravity and way to it,
that's very important. That makes you think,

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oh wow, something crazy just happened. It takes the drama and the

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weight out of all of that by
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punchline and making it into a giant
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it as. But we got other
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just want to go through a lot
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huge debate like on Twitter, dude, that's just like ridiculous, and it

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involves David ike And like, do
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the most jealous, hateful, spiteful
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it's ridiculous. But he's been like
bashing like Joe Rogan and like uh,

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Alex Jones and like Tucker Carlson.
All this because Joe Rogan just signed

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a giant, big Spotify deal.
He renewed his Oh I saw that contract

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here. This is from USA Today. Joe Rogan inks multi year deal with

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Spotify Podcasts to expand to other platforms. Spotify is extending its relationship with controversial

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podcast hosts Joe Rogan. Spotify announced
the renewal partnership and a post in the

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company's corporate blog Friday. Under a
prior multi million dollar deal, the Joe

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Rogan Experience has been a Spotify exclusive
since twenty twenty. Under the new deal,

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the podcast will now be available on
competiting competing platforms, including YouTube and

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Apple Podcasts. The Wall Street Journal
first reported the new deal on Friday,

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and reported that Joe Rogan would receive
two hundred and fifty million dollar contract over

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its multi year term, according to
his sources. The Wall Street Journal also

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is reporting that the contract involves an
upfront minimum guarantee in addition to a revenue

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sharing agreement based on atch sales.
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and his podcast has remaining the top
podcast on Spotify is wrapped every year since

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twenty two. Why many of his
listeners enjoy his interview style and variety of

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guests, and people are bashing this
man for that, And Dude, I

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like Joe Rogan. I've always liked
Joe Rogan. And it seems like the

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alternative community just they jump on people
that have any kind of success. They

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jump on people, they attack people, they stab people in the back that

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are making any kind of money or
is doing better than they are, and

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they attack them with, oh,
well you're working, if you're signing that

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kind of a big deal, then
then you're just the mainstream media. But

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isn't that the goal, Ryan,
Like, isn't that the goal of the

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entire thing is to I mean,
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grow and continue to become bigger,
more successful, to be more successful and

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bring in more money? Is that
not the goal? Like what am I

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missing here? I don't understand some
people for some people, and I get

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what you're saying, because there's certain
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of let's call it alternative media,
it's alternative media. They rip themselves down

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and rip themselves apart. That I
completely agree with you on and I see

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that you know myself. Now,
obviously I don't have a multimillion dollar deal

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with Spotify, and it's just because
I've had a radio show for fourteen years.

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People accuse me of working for the
deep State, the cabal, the

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Illuminati, the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of This, the Department

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of That. I've been accused by
the FBI, the CIA, and I

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don't even have a multimillion dollar deal. And it's usually because I say something

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that conflicts with with the echo chamber
of one one thing or another. That

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could be UFOs, it could be
I mean, people accuse me of working

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for the World Economic Forum because I
tell people, Hey, I don't eat

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meat. It's like that makes me
work for the World Economic Forum because I

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don't like hamburgers, you know,
I don't do you want the New World

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Order, Ryan, you want a
new World Order? You don't want to

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precisely precisely, Yeah, I'm working
for the New World Order. Like it's

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an organization and they pay taxes or
something. Yeah, so that's definitely all

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true personally, like i'd listen.
This is I don't know. My view

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might be a little bit weird or
different than some people's view on this,

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but I listen. I've listened to
Joe Rogan. I don't dislike the guy.

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I like his interview style too,
it's very laid back. Personally,

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I don't like the I don't like
the like when he was with Elon Musk

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and they smoked weed, Like,
I don't like weed. I don't like

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anything to do with that. That's
a personal opinion. So I have like

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my personal opinions about it. I
don't hate him. I don't really like

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listen all the time. But in
the alternative media, I agree with you

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that people rip each other down and
there's a lot of jealousy. And I

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think where there is jealousy usually is
because people are one of two things,

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and maybe there are more as well, but I think one of two things

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people are jealous because why aren't they
making the same kind of money? Or

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maybe and maybe there's three things.
One, they're jeous because they're not making

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the same kind of money, they're
not getting the same kind of attention.

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Two and I say this from my
own experience, like I've done this for

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so long, I feel like I
deserve a little more respect within the field

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than what I get, and people
that do basically nothing get more respect and

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more attention than what my show gets, despite the fact that I've done this

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two three times as long as they
have, so that frustrates me. I'm

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not upset when those people are successful. I'm upset of the situation because it

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doesn't seem fair to do something for
fourteen years and push a lot of new

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ideas and then basically be overshadowed by
people that have no clue what they're talking

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about most of the time. So
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within the dichotomy of not understanding that
sometimes people are just successful and sometimes the

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system, like if the system,
let's call it the system, the system

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really really really really wanted to get
rid of Joe Rogan, it would,

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but guess what, Joe Rogan makes
the system a lot of money, so

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they're not going to get of Joe
Rogan. It doesn't matter what he says.

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He's had Alex Jones on his show. He's had everybody, every big

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name want to show controversial people,
and he just keeps getting bigger and bigger

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deals. Why because he makes people
a lot of money. If Alex Jones

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wasn't making people the kind of money
that he's making, despite the fact that

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he might have his own financial troubles, he wasn't making somebody money somewhere,

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he'd be completely removed. He'd be
completely gone. It wouldn't just be deplatformed.

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Stations wouldn't carry him. He's making
people money. I'm not saying that's

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bad. I don't dislike Alex Jones, but it's like people get successful and

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you know, they make other people
money and at that point politics don't even

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matter. In fact, politics make
you more money because if you're opposed to

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this side and you're for this other
side, then you're making one side money

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and the other. It's like all
marketable, right, it doesn't matter which

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way you slice it. Someone's making
a lot of money off of these things

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that we think are these individual political
viewpoints and slogans and phrases that we have

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independently within our movie marketable. Yeah, it's very marketable. And I just

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don't like the fact that the community
pounds on people and uh, you know,

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slices them up and stabs them in
the back whenever they have success.

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It's not like Joe Rogan came out
of nowhere. Dude. He's been doing

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it for a really long time.
I think he's been doing it just as

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long as you have. He was
just the first person to do it.

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He's the first person to do it. He deserves to have success. I

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don't care what he's talking about on
a show. He's one of the few

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people that I'll just put on his
podcast, don't even know the topic of

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what they're talking about, and I'll
still listen even if I disagree with It

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doesn't matter to me. You know
what that you know what that is?

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Writer? I want to know your
opinion on this. Do you think that

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that's kind of like because someone's successful, it's like, well, they they

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must be doing something malicious because they're
successful and they're making money. There's certainly

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a parallel there absolutely. I think
that that is the whole thing of the

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community is that they think that if
someone is successful, then they must be

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doing something sleazy, or they must
be a slime ball, or they must

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be scamming someone or frauding someone.
And that's not always the case. Bro.

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Sometimes people are just successful. They
are like, you can't be organically

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successful, Like, that's ridiculous,
that's a ridiculous notion, and that's a

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very dangerous notion. Just like people
think that when they talk about the president,

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they're like, oh, the president
doesn't matter. That is very dangerous.

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That's dangerous thinking the president. This
whole idea that the president doesn't matter,

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regardless if you think that he does
or not. It's a dangerous position

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to take. So it says the
idea that it's all corrupt, so just

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burn sound exactly. And that's where
David Ayke is that he's on that bandwagon

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and he's fueling these people to just
attack and bash anybody within the community that

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has any amount of success or has
any kind of popularity. They can't be

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telling the truth if they're successful,
Ryan, they can't be telling you the

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real truth. If they're making money
at what they're doing You got to be

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doing this all for free, dude. He can't be making money doing this

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at all, which is a complete
contradiction because David Ike's acting like he's never

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made any money off of doing any
of this. How many books does he

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have a lot many books as he
sold? You know? So it's like,

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dude, like you're you're a contradiction, You're you're a hypocrisy, You're

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you're very hypocritical of everything. And
it's just a very dangerous notion, dude,

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because it holds people back from becoming
successful and making something of themselves within

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this community, because people then turn
their back on them because whenever they reach

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a certain amount of success, they
think that they're with the cabal, right,

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they're working for the illuminati because they
got so successful. It's ridiculous.

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I've never seen I can't say one
way or the other. I'm not doubting

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you. I've just never seen any
of this stuff from David Dyke because I

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don't really use Twitter, so I'll
have to go look some of that up.

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In regard to some other names,
like for example, I'll give you

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an example here that might might be
a good, a good thing to discuss

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just for a moment. Personally,
my personal opinion, I don't trust Russell

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Brand. I don't know what it
is. There's something about him. I

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don't trust him. And the fact
that he became ultra popular. I mean,

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he was already ultra popular because of
his acting, stand up comedy and

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all that. I get that,
but he became this ultra popular alternative media

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conspirac voice pretty quickly, and to
me, that weirded me out. I've

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listened to his stuff and it might
just be that, Okay, he's very

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famous, so people listen to him. And I have my own frustrations with

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that because there are people I know
in my personal life they're like, did

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you hear Russell Brand said about the
UN I was like, dude, I

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told you that shit fifteen years ago. What are you talking about. Well,

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he just said it last week.
Yeah, And I said it last

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week fifteen years ago. Like,
to me, that's frustrating. That's not

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the reason I don't trust him.
I get some weird vibe from him.

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So there are certain people, let's
say alternative media, who like it's just

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a personal thing, like there's just
something about him. I don't necessarily agree

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with her, like I don't feel
that way about Joe Rogan, but I

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certainly feel that way a little bit
about Russell brand And I don't it's really

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I don't go over the edge or
overboard like we were just saying and think

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it's all corrupt, let's burn it
all down. But there certainly are I

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would say, infiltrators, not even
necessarily the end of visual you know,

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in the case of Russell Bran,
but they're infiltrators that want to use things

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that kind of sound crazy and wacky, like look at Stup Peters. How

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the hell does Stup Peters get the
attention Stu Peters gets. That guy makes

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up stuff like a mad lib.
He makes up so many ridiculous false claims

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and he just explodes on social media. I have to think that the algorithm

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allows that because it promotes a lot. I mean, you listen to that

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guy a lot of not to say
that some of the stuff he says isn't

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true, but a lot of disinformation. So in some cases, I think,

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and this is just the example,
I'm selecting the person in this case

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00:31:36.079 --> 00:31:37.960
Stup Peters. I think that he
might be a genuine guy, but he

406
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:41.400
says so much nonsense. The algorithm
tends to like that, and it pushes

407
00:31:41.400 --> 00:31:45.640
his stuff above all the other stuff
that might be more legitimate. So there

408
00:31:45.640 --> 00:31:48.559
certainly is cause for concern in that
regard, but we shouldn't burn the whole

409
00:31:48.559 --> 00:31:55.680
system down, and we shouldn't be
upset when people are successful. Yeah,

410
00:31:55.759 --> 00:32:00.640
it just really bothers me, and
it really irks me. And this isn't

411
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:05.079
you know, me kissing Joe Rogan's
ass. It's just me using him as

412
00:32:05.119 --> 00:32:07.960
an example. I mean, it
could have been anyone. I mean,

413
00:32:07.119 --> 00:32:12.839
David Acus had done it to Alex
Jones, Tucker Carlson. And there's a

414
00:32:12.920 --> 00:32:21.920
reason why these people aren't popular.
And it's not always because they're working for

415
00:32:21.960 --> 00:32:27.039
the intelligence community, right, it's
not. That's not always the case.

416
00:32:27.079 --> 00:32:34.799
But people have been got it in
their head that anyone that's successful in this

417
00:32:34.880 --> 00:32:42.039
arena has to be working for the
government. So so backwards, dude,

418
00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:47.000
it's so it's so ridiculous. And
you know, when you look at look

419
00:32:47.079 --> 00:32:52.240
back at you know, Joe Rogan, Dude, they he was already famous.

420
00:32:52.240 --> 00:32:54.799
He was a he was a stand
up comedian, He was on fear

421
00:32:54.799 --> 00:32:59.519
Factor, fear Factor for a long
time. He worked for the UFC.

422
00:33:00.240 --> 00:33:05.720
You know as an announcer. So
it's like it's not like it just happened

423
00:33:05.839 --> 00:33:08.640
overnight. There was a progression there. It's not like he just came onto

424
00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:13.400
the scene and all of a sudden
he just exploded and just now got this

425
00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:17.119
two point five million dollar contract with
Spotify. He's been doing this for fourteen

426
00:33:17.200 --> 00:33:21.319
years. It's the same thing with
Alex Jones. I mean I listened to

427
00:33:21.400 --> 00:33:24.240
him toward the beginning. You know, he used to do radio kind of

428
00:33:24.279 --> 00:33:28.240
like I used to do, like
just out of a small little apartment.

429
00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:31.680
You know, he's been around forever. And people think Alex Jones just popped

430
00:33:31.720 --> 00:33:36.839
up one day and got real famous
and he's controlled by the deep state or

431
00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:40.400
whatever that means. There's just so
much of this stuff just seems like if

432
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:45.720
there is any intentionality behind the debates
and discussions, it's all about getting people

433
00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:51.599
to just constantly be in conflict with
one another and not know who to trust

434
00:33:51.599 --> 00:33:57.480
and even themselves. And if there's
any maliciousness and inten intentionality behind this,

435
00:33:57.720 --> 00:34:00.599
I think that's what it is.
It doesn't matter who you can or can't

436
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:02.880
trust, or who you think you
can or can't trust. People just constantly

437
00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:07.519
fight and rip each other apart.
And I mean that's certainly if there is

438
00:34:07.559 --> 00:34:10.360
a conspiracy, I think that's probably
what it's aim to getting people to do,

439
00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:14.440
because when you do that, then
you're not asking questions. You're certainly

440
00:34:14.480 --> 00:34:17.719
not asking critical questions. And you
know, there's also I think the intelligence

441
00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:22.360
factor, because there's different levels of
intelligence, not necessarily the host of a

442
00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:25.480
show, but in terms of the
types of questions that are asked, Like

443
00:34:25.519 --> 00:34:29.679
this is something I know that frustrates
you and I when it comes to eufology.

444
00:34:30.119 --> 00:34:31.480
You hear these UFO shows that are
just like, well, what did

445
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:34.920
David Grush say today? Here's what
you Oh my god, he said there's

446
00:34:34.920 --> 00:34:37.239
aliens and he didn't say anything like
that. But people will click click click

447
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:40.360
click click click click click on that, you know, like like they're going

448
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:44.400
to enlarge their penis, just like
can I get that in the mail right

449
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:46.480
now? Right now? They want
they want to click the click click click

450
00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:50.039
on that. But then when you
get other people like yourself, right that

451
00:34:50.079 --> 00:34:52.679
ask really legitimate UFO questions, nobody
wants that at a conference. Nobody wants

452
00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:57.280
to hear that. For the most
part, it's not it's not marketable in

453
00:34:57.320 --> 00:34:59.960
the same way. So a lot
of the stuff has to do with marketability,

454
00:35:00.119 --> 00:35:04.079
like I said, and it's about
what sells and what doesn't sell.

455
00:35:04.400 --> 00:35:07.280
It's not necessarily the intelligence factor,
but a show like Joe Rogan, Joe

456
00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:12.920
Rogan's a very smart guy, but
his conversations are much more laid back and

457
00:35:13.000 --> 00:35:15.039
relaxed, and a lot of them, not all of them, and a

458
00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:17.760
lot of them they're kind of I
don't know how you feel about this term,

459
00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:21.960
but for me, it frustrates me. I don't like the broish culture,

460
00:35:22.280 --> 00:35:23.719
and there's a little bit of that
broishness with Joe Rogan, so that,

461
00:35:23.760 --> 00:35:29.400
of course attracts a lot more people
than if he were to host a

462
00:35:29.519 --> 00:35:34.480
very intellectual, scholarly type show,
which would not have the same attraction to

463
00:35:34.559 --> 00:35:37.039
people. And that's just who he
is, and that's great, and I

464
00:35:37.159 --> 00:35:38.719
like his show too, and I
like Joe Rogan, but it's about the

465
00:35:38.719 --> 00:35:43.639
marketability of it. You could do
the same show, have the same background,

466
00:35:43.639 --> 00:35:46.119
but if you were highly scholarly about
how you went about it, it's

467
00:35:46.119 --> 00:35:50.480
not going to attract the average person
to listen to that show man or woman.

468
00:35:50.960 --> 00:35:53.280
So it's about crafting an image.
A lot of that's just how you

469
00:35:53.440 --> 00:35:55.920
market a product, and I think
he's very good at that as well.

470
00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:00.800
And not only that too. It's
like you brought up brought up the UFO

471
00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:08.320
community, and if you were to
answer the UFO question. I was talking

472
00:36:08.360 --> 00:36:14.000
to Jay Wider about this the other
day, if you were to answer the

473
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:19.880
UFO question, and let's say we
which I think that I've figured it out

474
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:24.079
to the best of my knowledge through
my research and my study and the things

475
00:36:24.079 --> 00:36:29.840
that I've read. But if you
were to take that to a conference and

476
00:36:29.880 --> 00:36:36.079
you were to talk about it,
there's too too many facts there. There's

477
00:36:36.079 --> 00:36:44.039
too many uh concrete, there's too
much evidence. And that's one thing that

478
00:36:44.760 --> 00:36:52.079
ufology does not like. It does
not like evidence. It does not like

479
00:36:52.199 --> 00:37:00.039
facts because it doesn't let the continuous
amount of speculation and theories to continue on.

480
00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:07.280
And that is the marketability of uifology
is to keep asking the same questions

481
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:14.639
over and over and over again and
get regurgitation after regurgitation, slightly changed every

482
00:37:14.679 --> 00:37:19.840
once in a while from year to
year, but never answering any of the

483
00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:25.400
questions. The answers are supposed to
just make you question things even more.

484
00:37:27.840 --> 00:37:30.880
That is what I figured out about
the conspiracy community. That is what I

485
00:37:30.960 --> 00:37:37.239
figured out about ufology. You never
answer any of the questions. There is

486
00:37:37.280 --> 00:37:42.920
a true sense of paranoia in alternative
forms of media. I mean in mainstream

487
00:37:42.960 --> 00:37:47.039
media. If you listen to every
mainstream thing, people just regurgitate what they

488
00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:53.599
hear, and if anybody suggests that
there might be facts that exist outside of

489
00:37:53.639 --> 00:37:59.960
that paradigm, they're really paranoid and
think that you're delusional, and vice versa.

490
00:38:00.039 --> 00:38:02.440
And you have the alternative media,
which includes covering the same kinds of

491
00:38:02.480 --> 00:38:07.360
things, whatever it is. They
think they have the answers, and when

492
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:08.920
you think differently, they think,
oh, you must be working for the

493
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:13.239
mainstream media. You must be working
for the cabal. You see, both

494
00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:15.360
sides do the same thing. You're
working for the conspiracy theorist, you're just

495
00:38:15.400 --> 00:38:19.599
a conspiracy note or you're working for
the cabal, you're working for the illuminati.

496
00:38:19.760 --> 00:38:23.920
As if nobody is allowed to have
their own thoughts, you know,

497
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:28.519
aren't allowed to ask their own questions. And this is something that I mean,

498
00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:30.199
I face, I know you face
too with during the show that you

499
00:38:30.280 --> 00:38:34.880
do is all you have to do
is present another opinion, and if it's

500
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:39.039
alternative to one group, or another
group, it's seen as being in conflict

501
00:38:39.039 --> 00:38:44.119
and therefore you must be the enemy
of that group. And when even when

502
00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:49.760
you're just asking honest questions, like
that's real, that's true paranoia, Like

503
00:38:49.840 --> 00:38:52.760
some people really are paranoid, and
that's what the mainstream always accuses anybody who

504
00:38:52.840 --> 00:39:00.000
disagrees with them of. But it's
also something that the mainstream is just as

505
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:05.559
guilty of. It's paranoia. It's
unjust suspicion. Everybody suspicious of everything and

506
00:39:05.599 --> 00:39:09.679
everybody and every claim. And that's
not just paranoia. That creates delusion when

507
00:39:09.679 --> 00:39:15.719
people become disconnected from reality, and
that's what you're seeing from UFOs to Bigfoot.

508
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:22.079
It's delusion and it's paranoia. And
we don't get much relevant, I

509
00:39:22.119 --> 00:39:27.239
would call it. We don't get
much relevant and honest discussions about any of

510
00:39:27.280 --> 00:39:31.840
those things because everybody seems to be
running and waddling around and crawling around like

511
00:39:31.840 --> 00:39:38.559
a rabbit animal. Mental illness,
yes, that is what it is.

512
00:39:38.599 --> 00:39:45.400
It's a community full of mentally ill
people. In fact, Jack Fallet said

513
00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:50.079
that in Passport to Magonia, I
just finished that book again and that was

514
00:39:50.079 --> 00:39:52.119
one of the things I think I
sent it to you. The quote he

515
00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:58.000
had about eufology and when you don't
really address the issue, and maybe even

516
00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:01.199
when this info is spread and people
just have this mystery in front of them

517
00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:06.760
and have no idea what it is
and they're told all these contradictory things.

518
00:40:07.159 --> 00:40:10.840
It breeds that kind of behavior and
that can be used psychologically to control people,

519
00:40:10.880 --> 00:40:15.239
like to quite literally control people's minds. That is exactly what you see

520
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:19.079
in ufology. It doesn't matter what
your opinions or politics are on any of

521
00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:22.280
these issues. That's the kind of
behavior you see bread out of the artificial

522
00:40:22.360 --> 00:40:29.880
constructs and debates that are had within
those subjects and many others, massive synthetic

523
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:35.239
societal changes that have been led on
by imagination, fancy, paranoia, and

524
00:40:35.280 --> 00:40:42.880
delusion. Yes, I agree we
have something else going on as well,

525
00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:50.079
because I've been talking about for the
past couple of weeks now about how fragile

526
00:40:50.719 --> 00:40:58.639
our society is and if the Internet
were to get wiped then what would we

527
00:40:58.760 --> 00:41:06.039
have. We would basically have nothing
or our entire generation for the past twenty

528
00:41:06.079 --> 00:41:09.639
four years has all been built around
the Internet, and if the Internet goes

529
00:41:09.679 --> 00:41:17.000
down then we're screwed. Basically everything
has been digitized, books, have been

530
00:41:17.000 --> 00:41:22.360
digitized. Money has been digitized.
If you think that they're getting they're going

531
00:41:22.440 --> 00:41:27.960
to do a digital currency, the
digital currency is already here. The banks

532
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:31.679
are the digital currency. We've been
working with digital currency for decades. Now.

533
00:41:31.920 --> 00:41:35.440
You know what I hate. I
have to make a very quick comment

534
00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:38.199
writer. I hate about this,
the CBDC Central Bank digital currency thing.

535
00:41:38.519 --> 00:41:44.079
You hear these commercials with central bank
digital currency on the horizon. Governments could

536
00:41:44.119 --> 00:41:46.360
track exactly what you spend, so
you need to buy gold and silver,

537
00:41:46.440 --> 00:41:50.760
and I'm thinking we already do that. It's called a credit card, it's

538
00:41:50.760 --> 00:41:54.920
called every transaction you make is cataloged. Yep, yep, that's exactly right.

539
00:41:54.960 --> 00:42:00.920
I've been seeing that for a while
now. It's ridiculous they think that

540
00:42:00.960 --> 00:42:04.840
a digital currency is going to make
it any different than what it already is.

541
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:07.679
It already is digital. Your money
is not really in the bank.

542
00:42:08.000 --> 00:42:14.199
It's a digital currency. It's just
numbers, right. And I've been talking

543
00:42:14.199 --> 00:42:17.599
about how you know, if the
Internet goes down, that's going to create

544
00:42:17.960 --> 00:42:22.920
a giant problem. And I think
that the whole push toward the digitalization of

545
00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:28.719
everything has been revolving around that.
In order for them just to come in

546
00:42:29.000 --> 00:42:31.920
and wipe everything, and then two
hundred years. I think we talked about

547
00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:37.199
this on Leave the World Behind episode
that we did together. In one hundred

548
00:42:37.239 --> 00:42:42.639
to two hundred years, it would
be like we didn't even exist. And

549
00:42:42.679 --> 00:42:47.039
I believe we're starting to see the
remnants of the beginning of this. Because

550
00:42:47.199 --> 00:42:55.760
Google will no longer back up the
Internet. Cashed web pages are dead.

551
00:42:57.639 --> 00:43:02.360
Google will no longer keep backing up
keep a backup of the entire Internet.

552
00:43:02.400 --> 00:43:08.559
Google Search cash links have long been
gone. Long been an alternative way to

553
00:43:08.760 --> 00:43:13.159
load the website that is down or
has been changed, but now the company

554
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:21.000
is killing them off. Google uh
Danny's Sullivan confirmed the future removal of x

555
00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:28.400
posts seeing the feature was meant for
helping people across access web pages when way

556
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:32.920
back you often couldn't depend on the
page loading. These days, things have

557
00:43:34.360 --> 00:43:39.119
greatly improved, so we've decided to
retire it. The future has been appearing

558
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:45.639
and disappearing for some people since December, and currently we don't see any cash

559
00:43:45.719 --> 00:43:50.199
links in the Google Search for now. You can still build your own cash

560
00:43:50.280 --> 00:43:55.280
links even without the button, just
by going to this website page here.

561
00:43:55.480 --> 00:44:05.880
Cash and Google user conten dot com
slash search cash plus a website r L

562
00:44:06.480 --> 00:44:10.400
or by typing cash plus URL into
Google Search. For now, the cash

563
00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:15.679
version seems to still work. All
of Google supported pages about cash sites have

564
00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:25.079
been taken down, and I think
that this is a start of the removal

565
00:44:25.320 --> 00:44:31.840
of things that came previously, and
then all the things that we've been doing

566
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:38.440
for the past twenty four years on
the internet. And that's a recent article

567
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:42.400
too, that was like a couple
of days ago, right, yeah,

568
00:44:42.840 --> 00:44:45.639
yeah, And not only that,
but I did a show last year.

569
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:49.000
I think I mentioned it on a
couple of other shows. I did a

570
00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:54.239
full show on deep fake and what
is the other one called. I call

571
00:44:54.280 --> 00:44:59.280
it something like voice mirroring, where
you can get audio recordings, you can

572
00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:01.400
get videos. Of course people know
what deep fake is, but the technology

573
00:45:01.440 --> 00:45:04.480
has gotten to the point now where
it's so advanced. I mean, it

574
00:45:04.519 --> 00:45:07.840
doesn't look like the deep fake of
a year ago. I mean, that's

575
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:12.360
just it's rapidly developing, because it
was a big problem for a while.

576
00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:16.159
You'd have like on video and some
celebrities face put on the on the actress

577
00:45:16.320 --> 00:45:20.920
or something like that, or you'd
have that done with you know, movies

578
00:45:21.159 --> 00:45:24.079
like movie clips or something you take
another celebrity and change their face out and

579
00:45:24.159 --> 00:45:27.239
you could I mean, if you
glance at it, you couldn't tell,

580
00:45:27.239 --> 00:45:29.360
but you could tell if you look
close enough, like, oh, that's

581
00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:34.519
not so and so. But now
it's a lot more sophisticated just twelve months

582
00:45:34.559 --> 00:45:37.840
later, and it'll be more sophisticated
in the next six months. And there

583
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:43.960
was a story from CBS News and
a bunch of others back in twenty twenty

584
00:45:44.000 --> 00:45:45.920
three. This was just a few
weeks ago, but there are other stories

585
00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:52.320
that go back even further. It
says AI guardrails fade or as guardrails for

586
00:45:52.360 --> 00:45:57.119
AI fate, AI deep fakes go
mainstream. This and this is what all

587
00:45:57.159 --> 00:46:01.119
I mean. They're intelligence agencies.
The press is using this for psychological reasons.

588
00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:06.800
But people are very worried about this
in government and intelligence communities. Businesses

589
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:08.880
are worried about this, and the
average person should be worried about it.

590
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:14.400
Not so much Minority report because they
don't need to make up things and arrest

591
00:46:14.440 --> 00:46:16.960
you based on algorithms for things you
might do in the future. Now they

592
00:46:17.000 --> 00:46:21.400
can just find evidence on you of
things that you've never done. But there's

593
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:24.320
video proof, there's audio proof,
of you doin something you didn't do,

594
00:46:25.239 --> 00:46:30.239
and you might go to jail for
that. It's a much bigger issue than

595
00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:34.960
just minority reports. And this is
all recent stuff. That's and then I

596
00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:37.440
mean, this technology is going to
be more advanced next month. We have

597
00:46:37.840 --> 00:46:42.599
several months, what two hundred and
forty something days until the election. I

598
00:46:42.599 --> 00:46:45.320
mean that's a lot of time for
this technology to become even more advanced and

599
00:46:45.360 --> 00:46:50.320
sophisticated. And it doesn't matter,
it doesn't matter whether it's real or not.

600
00:46:50.480 --> 00:46:53.480
It will persuade people to think one
way or another because it's so convincing

601
00:46:54.920 --> 00:47:02.719
and judging them off of how spiteful
people are. They could do this to

602
00:47:02.800 --> 00:47:07.400
somebody over nothing. They can ruin
an entire life. They could break up

603
00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:13.039
an entire family. Dude, Yeah, they can put somebody in jail for

604
00:47:13.360 --> 00:47:17.039
something that they never did because they
said something to them that they didn't like.

605
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:21.280
You can, I mean you can. There's little things online. You

606
00:47:21.320 --> 00:47:23.760
can fake text messages. I mean, if you wanted to, you wanted

607
00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:28.039
to, you know, I don't
know, break up you know, your

608
00:47:28.119 --> 00:47:31.159
your your best friend's marriage or something. You could just you have fake text

609
00:47:31.199 --> 00:47:34.639
message. Look, your husband texted
me asking to have sex with me.

610
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:37.639
You know you can. You can. You can make fake text messages,

611
00:47:37.639 --> 00:47:40.079
fake videos, fake I mean,
and this is just what people like you

612
00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:44.519
and I can do. This is
this doesn't account for what the military can

613
00:47:44.559 --> 00:47:47.760
do or what the intelligence community can
do. And we know those agencies and

614
00:47:47.800 --> 00:47:55.480
groups are absolutely involved in political manipulation. Who knows what to believe. So

615
00:47:55.599 --> 00:48:00.840
people, probably more than ever,
will either one of two things. Distrust

616
00:48:00.840 --> 00:48:04.840
the system entirely and say burn it
all down, screw it, or they

617
00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:09.360
will cling even tighter to their political
affiliations, and it'll be even more difficult

618
00:48:09.360 --> 00:48:14.199
to have policy discussions because hey,
as I talked about on a recent show

619
00:48:14.199 --> 00:48:17.199
of Mindwriter, eighteen percent in a
Newsweek poll said that they would vote for

620
00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:21.400
the candidate that Taylor Swift votes for. So we don't even have to make

621
00:48:21.480 --> 00:48:27.039
discussions or decisions based on policies anymore. We'll just decide based on what Taylor

622
00:48:27.039 --> 00:48:30.800
Swift is thinking. And she's a
really good judge of character because she's had

623
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:34.400
you know, such a great,
you know marriage for so long. She

624
00:48:34.440 --> 00:48:38.159
doesn't have all these all these boyfriends
and all these relationships, so she she's

625
00:48:38.199 --> 00:48:40.840
a really good judge of character.
To know who to vote for for president.

626
00:48:42.360 --> 00:48:46.719
It is just unbelievable and incomprehensible that
that's where we are. It's like

627
00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:52.320
a dystopian movie or something. But
they've been using those people for a really

628
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:57.159
long time since Milk. Hollywood got
Milk's a great example of that too.

629
00:48:58.199 --> 00:49:01.920
And you know that if you if
you look at the if you look at

630
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:06.320
the way in which the power I
mean, like the power of the celebrity

631
00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:08.039
hodaism, I mean it's been for
for a long long time. It's like

632
00:49:08.079 --> 00:49:14.679
a religion. People follow these folks
like their saints or like they're almost like

633
00:49:14.679 --> 00:49:22.280
their gods. It's a way to
distance yourself from personal responsibility and attach yourself

634
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:27.400
to someone who's perceptually successful. I
mean, it's really nothing new. It's

635
00:49:28.119 --> 00:49:34.440
these celebrities and these musicians and these
singers and these people have they've been used

636
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:38.119
in that way for a really long
time, so it's it's not really anything

637
00:49:38.159 --> 00:49:45.000
new. But Taylor Swift is the
most popular celebrity right now. She's basically

638
00:49:45.079 --> 00:49:49.719
the new Michael Jackson, is what
she is. She has that kind of

639
00:49:49.880 --> 00:49:59.079
level of fame as to what Michael
Jackson had, so obviously she's very influential,

640
00:49:59.320 --> 00:50:07.039
and but it lacks all common sense
and critical thinking to listen to a

641
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:10.480
celebrity and base your opinions and believes
in what you're going to do with your

642
00:50:10.519 --> 00:50:15.599
life off of their opinions and believes
it's ridiculous. That's so stupid. That

643
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:20.760
doesn't mean that a celebrity can't.
I mean people say, well, Donald

644
00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:23.320
Trump should run for president. He
was a real TV reality star. It's

645
00:50:23.360 --> 00:50:25.840
like, well, that's true,
that's funny, and you can play around

646
00:50:25.840 --> 00:50:30.239
with that. But you know,
like anybody can run for president, at

647
00:50:30.320 --> 00:50:35.320
least theoretically right. Anybody can run
for office. It doesn't matter if you're

648
00:50:35.320 --> 00:50:37.599
a politician already, it doesn't matter
if you're a TV star or you're a

649
00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:43.920
former sports athlete. You know,
anybody has the right quote unquote to run

650
00:50:43.960 --> 00:50:47.159
for office. It's the issue is
looking at somebody and thinking, well,

651
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:51.679
wow, they're successful. If I
vote for who they vote for, maybe

652
00:50:51.719 --> 00:50:54.960
I'll be successful. Because that's what's
happening on a subconscious level. That's why

653
00:50:55.000 --> 00:50:59.000
you buy the perfume and the cologne, and you buy the jeans and the

654
00:50:59.039 --> 00:51:05.159
t shirts and and the shoes and
the cars because celebrities have them. You

655
00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:07.719
know, that's why you drink milk
because look, oh my god, look

656
00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:12.440
Angeline n Joe Lee has a milk
mustache. That's how she became tomb Raiders.

657
00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:14.840
She drank a lot of milk.
I'm gonna drink milk too. That's

658
00:51:14.880 --> 00:51:20.079
what's happening in the subconscious. It's
disgusting. Well, people act like Trump

659
00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:25.480
was the only reality TV star that's
ever been president. Ronald Reagan he was

660
00:51:25.519 --> 00:51:31.159
an actor, was an actor,
so Celenski he's literally an actor. Yeah,

661
00:51:31.239 --> 00:51:37.360
I know, Ronald Reagan was in
I would think, what nineteen or

662
00:51:37.400 --> 00:51:44.679
so movies. He was Donald Trump
before Donald Trump was Donald Trump. And

663
00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:50.519
everyone pretty much loved Ronald Reagan.
So I it's like this whole idea and

664
00:51:50.599 --> 00:51:53.280
this thought that, well, well, you can't have a reality or a

665
00:51:53.320 --> 00:52:00.280
TV star movie star be president.
Well, Ronald Reagan was a lot of

666
00:52:00.280 --> 00:52:02.519
people liked him. JFK. John
F. Kennedy was the same way.

667
00:52:02.559 --> 00:52:07.280
I mean, the psychologists think that
that the only reason he won that election

668
00:52:07.480 --> 00:52:10.440
was because of TV and because of
the way that he looked well when women

669
00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:15.599
loved him because he was probably the
most attractive president we've ever had, and

670
00:52:15.679 --> 00:52:19.559
women back then, I guarantee those
women, they dress nice, they look

671
00:52:19.599 --> 00:52:22.960
like Jackie Kennedy, they carried themselves
differently. I bet those women the same

672
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:25.039
exact thing that people do today.
I'm going to vote for him because I

673
00:52:25.119 --> 00:52:30.360
like his hair. That's why people
voted for Kennedy. Well, and Kennedy

674
00:52:30.480 --> 00:52:34.880
was doing and that's not to disparage
Kennedy. He was doing a lot of

675
00:52:35.880 --> 00:52:43.440
really good things. And I think
probably the last true Democrat, probably the

676
00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:47.639
least your Jim Democrat. Yeah,
the issue is that when you when democracy

677
00:52:47.800 --> 00:52:52.480
relies on the lowest common denominator,
That's why this isn't a democracy. The

678
00:52:52.519 --> 00:52:57.400
lowest common denominator of the person who
doesn't know how to put gas in their

679
00:52:57.440 --> 00:53:00.920
car or doesn't know how to boil
water, but they're going to vote for

680
00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:04.199
someone who's going to make decisions for
the rest of us. That's a problem.

681
00:53:05.199 --> 00:53:07.440
Well, Ryan, thanks so much
for coming on. Brother. We

682
00:53:07.480 --> 00:53:09.840
are up on the hour. Can
you let people know where to find you?

683
00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:15.639
Yes, as always, Monday through
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684
00:53:15.679 --> 00:53:20.840
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685
00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:24.000
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686
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687
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688
00:53:32.119 --> 00:53:37.239
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691
00:53:47.800 --> 00:53:52.320
Thank you Ryder for having me on. Thanks so much everyone for listening.

692
00:53:52.719 --> 00:53:57.840
I hope you really enjoyed it and
we'll see you guys next time.

693
00:53:58.480 --> 00:53:58.840
Bye bye,