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the Secret Teaching show on Ground zero Radio. Ryan Gable, Welcome back.
How's it going, my friend, Hey is going good? Rider? Thanks
for having me back again. Always wonderful and always enjoy speaking with you.
And it feels like, Ryan, we're going further and further into dystopian land.
Have you seen Apple this new VR headset? Oh yes, I've seen
all the different types of headsets that have come out from Oculus and Facebook and
a bunch of other companies over the years. Yes, well this one is
different, dude, this one's different. If you haven't seen it, I
have a little clip right here. It doesn't have any audio so we can
speak over it. But this is an actual Apple ad And it seems like
that. You remember the movie Gamer with Gerard Butler where they would put on
the VR goggles and they would be inside of the video game. Like this
is almost identical. You see how like it's getting like they can control it's
like in front of them, and they can control how big the screen is.
They can do the wide angle thing. It's insane. And there's a
video that I clipped into the end of this preview that shows people just walking
around in like public and doing this weird thing. They equated it to a
black Mirror episode. And this is a real thing, and it was talked
about for a really long time, and now it's like finally here here's the
clip. Look at this guy. That's one step above walking with your cell
phone in front of your face everywhere. Look at this guy. Look at
what he's doing. He's just walking across the street. Look at that.
Look at him. You know what reminds me of does the Pokemon Go?
Where you'd have this fake reality overlaid on real reality on the physical world.
Right, you go catch these digital Pokemon what they call that augmented reality as
opposed to virtual reality, but augmented are augmented reality. Yeah, that's what
it really And it seems like that Pokemon Go. I play Pokemon Go a
little bit. Okay, if you didn't play Pokemon Go, there's something wrong
with you, did you really? You know? Grow up in the I
didn't play it, but I still have a lot of the old game.
I have the original Red Charizard Pokemon game for my game Boy in a box
somewhere. That's the good stuff, dude. Pokemon Yellow and Red was my
favorite saint. That's exactly what I have, red and yellow, little Pikachu
in the front of the yellow. Yeah, phenomenal, even gold, gold,
silver, and Crystal was amazing too. Pokemon Crystal was amazing because it
combined the first generation games with the second generation games, so you had like
not only eight badges to get in the first part of the game, you
had another eight badges to go through on the other side of the map,
which I thought was incredible. They never really made a game like that ever.
Again, well, I mean they remade them. They made them for
the DS. I think it was Pokemon something silver, but they ended up
making them and you could do that. But yeah, dude, this is
really really strange. Is it not really weird? Like it's I'll go ahead.
It's just what people have been talking about for a really long time,
that we're going to have this wearable like VR augmented type of thing and then
it's going to transfer into something that is inside of it. It's like,
it's wild, dude, and we're seeing it happen in like real time.
And hold on, let me pull up the actual Apple website here. It's
a slow, incremental process by which we go from having technology that we can
hold a technology that we can wear, to technology that we implant, to
technology that becomes a part of us. And in this case here what you're
showing this, I think is the definition of what it means to be a
cyborg. Not that that's necessarily bad or good, but it certainly is a
lot different than what we would imagine in sci fi movies, where we have
all these wires sticking out of us. In this case, it's just a
fun thing that we attach to ourselves and we can use our hands to watch
movies and pick things up in a digital environment. This is one step ahead
of the metaverse from Zuckerberg. I think, yeah, and you can be
watching TV then looks like a TV, but the TV isn't really there.
You can control it with your your eyes, your hands, your voice,
which Siria plays a role into that whole thing as well. You've never seen
anything like this before, Ryan, We've seen. We've seen. We've seen
plenty of things like that before, usually in sci fi movies. And of
course, when I wrote my book about technology seven eight eight years ago,
nine years ago, I talked about all the at the time, the advancements
in this type of technology. Remember, for a while we had those Google
smart glasses that people were taking into bathrooms and doing really kind of malicious stuff
with them, so those were deep popular. We saw the same thing with
the metaverse that was kind of depopularized. And now I can't imagine that this
catches on any more than those things. But it's different though. This is
Apple. This is a different thing other than like Google and all those other
ones did not do as well. But Apple has never done this before,
so I see it just getting better and better. This is like the first
gin of it, and a few people will get it, and then there
will be like a second gin and a third gin, and just like everything
else, people aren't going to be interested in it in the beginning that much.
But the longer that it's out there and the more that other people see
the direction that it's going, they're going to jump in on it. And
they could be completely one against it right now, but once it becomes popular
and enough people have it, they're going to jump on board. I know
I won't. I know that a lot of my listeners with the Secret Teaching
still like AI generated images, and still people message me and ask me,
can I make something using AI using your voice or your image or this or
that, and I tell them, no, I don't want to have any
of that associated with what I do. I mean, if there's an interesting
image I might use for a promo, but like, personally, I don't
want to be associated with any of this stuff. I mean, it's bad
enough. When you had smart TVs, we learned that on the website of
like Samsung, it was watching and listening and sending data to third parties into
law enforcement, and for years and years that was denied. Those TVs can't
do that. Your cell phone doesn't listen. Your cell phone doesn't take data
and share with the company or potentially with third parties with law enforcement and these
types of things too. Like it just strikes me as maybe for someone that
has a handicap, maybe for somebody who wants to play a game, but
this stuff, it seems, this is my opinion. I don't know what
you think, right, but for me, it seems this stuff is the
the way of the future in the sense that it has been pushed and promoted
and developed in a way where this is the next stage of human evolution.
You don't need your eyeballs anymore or your other senses. Now you need this
technology that Apple controls or Google or whatever the company is. It's the next
stage of human evolution, which has also been suggested on the front of major
magazines before, where we go from caveman to cyborg. Yeah, I agree
with that. I'm trying to figure out what the price of this thing is
A lot your soul. Why is there not a freaking tabbed? You know
how much it is. It's an Apple product, so it's going to be
very expensive. Let's see, my guess is it been available yet? I
gussing is probably going to be thirty four Yeah. See, this is the
thing that gets me about this type of thing, which I mean in ten
years maybe if this catches on, this will be you know, five hundred
bucks or two hundred bucks or whatever the case is, just like with cell
phones. But people that buy this kind of thing, like the market for
this type of technology. First of all, it's people that have a lot
of money at the beginning, but once it expands and other people can get
access to it. The people that I've known that have used stuff like this
are usually people that and this isn't a judgment, it's just in my experience
anecdotally, in my experience, people that use this kind of stuff are people
that like generally don't do much else in their life, so they don't travel,
they don't really go outside, they watch TV and sit on their phones
all day. And it's like they buy this technology because it's marketed as this
new experience. You can relive pictures and videos, you can play games that
immerse you in the game, and it's this idea that you can even use
this technology to go to who sites around the world like World Heritage sites and
explore them as if you were watching a video or you were actually there.
What doesn't make sense to me. It's like the market for that kind of
thing is not someone who goes hiking every day. It's someone who sets them
the couch all day and it's marketed them as this thing that allows them to
see the world. It's like, you've not seen the world, so you
can go see the world, but then this thing is going to bring the
world to you, so you don't go anywhere, you just do it all
from your couch. There's something weird about that to me. Now, it's
like the people that are using this technology that are really finding appeal in it,
and who it's marketed towards they're being marketed to in a way that's like,
Hey, there's this wonderful world in this digital environment you haven't seen.
It's like you also haven't seen the real world either, apparently, because if
you've seen the real world, you probably wouldn't be as interested in this digital
world. That's my assessment anyway. I agree, And it reminds me of
this movie that I watched not too long ago with uh, with Hugh Jackman
named uh this one right here, Reminiscence. Have you seen this movie?
I don't think so. I think that's what I'm not seen. Uh.
It's almost exactly like what you're talking about. A private investigator of the mind
navigates a darkly alluring world of the past by helping his clients access lost memories.
Living on the fringes of a sunken Miami coast, his life is forever
changed as he uncovers a violent conspiracy while trying to solve the mystery behind the
client who disappeared. And it's almost identical to like what you're seeing that it's
basically a technology driven movie where they put you in like a vat of like
water and then they put this VR type of goggle thing on tat sort of.
But then they put take like a chip of like a memory or whatever
it is that you want to live and they insert that in there, and
these people go and pay this guy to go back and relive past memories,
and it creates all the sensation of that past memory. It's like you're actually
there. You know that the technology for this has been in some capacity around
for was about a decade now, and it's slowly and slowly advancing into more
sophisticated forms and versions. And you know, if you look at the different
companies that have been developing this, they tend to do it like a lot
of technology and concert with one another. You know, it's like one idea
that everybody takes at the same time and tries to beat everybody to the market.
So on one level, it's definitely a capitalistic thing, which I'm not
opposed to capitalism. I'm all for it. Make as much money, as
much money as you can possibly make, and then make a bunch more,
produce things and get people jobs. That's all good for me. It's different
than predatory capitalism. But that's like on a very economic level, that's what
drives a lot of this culture and science fiction also drives a little bit of
that, and that feeds into the economics of it. But I think that
there are certainly more malicious entities and actors that are concerned with using such a
thing to further distance and distract people from what is going on around them.
When you look at things like shadow banning and algorithmic algorithmic manipulation and things in
food and water that are intentionally put there or as a result of negligence that
really prevent people from being able to access their full potential and to see the
world around them, there have to be nefarious actors who want to use this
technology to really lock humanity in a place that will not allow them to i
guess, even physically see the world, like literally to see the world around
them, not just pulling the wool over your eyes, but by quite literally
blinding you to reality. So again, it's economic, it's sci fi,
etc. But it's also I'm sure there's a malicious element to this as well.
It's probably not the engineers at Apple that are just going home to their
families and making this. Just like the guy that made Skynet in the Terminator,
he wasn't he was doing it to save lives with the planes because pilots
were tired, Right, That's kind of the part of the moral of that
story too. Yeah. And it's just interesting too that this Apple VR set
drops at almost the exact same time that Elon Musk, his Neurlink implant has
been put into the first human being. Really interesting. Elon Musk Neurlink has
implanted his first chip into a human brain. They were going to monkeys before
that, right, Yes, And this is from the Scientific American. The
wealthiest person on earth has taken the next step toward commercial brain interface. Billionaire
technology just Elon Musk announced this week that his company Neurallink, has implanted its
brain computer interface into a human for the first time. The recipient was recovering
well. Musk rode on a social media platform x formuly Twitter on Monday evening,
adding to this that the initial results showed promising neuro spike detection reference to
brain cells electroactivity. Each wireless Neurallink device contains a chip and an electrode arrays
of more than one hundred one thousand super thin flexible conductors that a surgical robot
threads into the sebral cortex. There The electros are designed to register thoughts related
to motion and must version and app will eventually translate these signals to move the
sensor to produce text. In short, it will be enable computer control by
thinking. Imagine if Stephen Hockey can communicate faster speed, that is the goal.
Musk wrote on the first neuralink product, which he said is named telepathy.
Yeah, you know that. Stephen Hawking like to watch small people try
to do math problems on a chalkboard they couldn't reach. That came out in
the Epstein documents. Did you read that? Do you think that that's true?
Though? I would imagine something to that effect is true. If not
that exactly that sounds. I've heard a lot of nasty stuff about Stephen hackeing.
I wouldn't be surprised if that's true. I feel like that's just them
making fun of people. Oh very well, could be that too. I
mean, either way you slice it, there's a powerful group of people within
that realm operating. They think that's the same people behind the VR and the
ARS. It's an ideology. It's not like a group of I don't think
conspiratories. It's an ideology that they think humans are imperfect, So we can
replace organic life with synthetic life, and we can replace five cents reality with
a false digital reality. I think that's an ideology. I think it's a
cult. Well, the way that you would take the punch out of those
documents being released is you would make something super ridiculous and super stupid that makes
people laugh, like with athology exactly, like with ufology, like with like
what you're just talking about with Stephen Hocking and trying to watch people write things
on a chalkboard and they can't reach it. You know, It's it's like
taking the weight. It's almost like a Marvel movie, right, a Marvel
movie that's made Now they've inserted so much comedy into the movies that anything that
has gravity and way to it, that's very important. That makes you think,
oh wow, something crazy just happened. It takes the drama and the
weight out of all of that by doing the next thing as a giant a
punchline and making it into a giant joke. That's kind of how I see
it as. But we got other things in the news. I kind of
just want to go through a lot of news stuff today because there's this like
huge debate like on Twitter, dude, that's just like ridiculous, and it
involves David ike And like, do you follow David ike on on Twitter?
No, I didn't even know he had a Twitter account. He is like
the most jealous, hateful, spiteful person on Twitter. Dude. It's like,
it's ridiculous. But he's been like bashing like Joe Rogan and like uh,
Alex Jones and like Tucker Carlson. All this because Joe Rogan just signed
a giant, big Spotify deal. He renewed his Oh I saw that contract
here. This is from USA Today. Joe Rogan inks multi year deal with
Spotify Podcasts to expand to other platforms. Spotify is extending its relationship with controversial
podcast hosts Joe Rogan. Spotify announced the renewal partnership and a post in the
company's corporate blog Friday. Under a prior multi million dollar deal, the Joe
Rogan Experience has been a Spotify exclusive since twenty twenty. Under the new deal,
the podcast will now be available on competiting competing platforms, including YouTube and
Apple Podcasts. The Wall Street Journal first reported the new deal on Friday,
and reported that Joe Rogan would receive two hundred and fifty million dollar contract over
its multi year term, according to his sources. The Wall Street Journal also
is reporting that the contract involves an upfront minimum guarantee in addition to a revenue
sharing agreement based on atch sales. Rogan has developed a huge audience on Spotify
and his podcast has remaining the top podcast on Spotify is wrapped every year since
twenty two. Why many of his listeners enjoy his interview style and variety of
guests, and people are bashing this man for that, And Dude, I
like Joe Rogan. I've always liked Joe Rogan. And it seems like the
alternative community just they jump on people that have any kind of success. They
jump on people, they attack people, they stab people in the back that
are making any kind of money or is doing better than they are, and
they attack them with, oh, well you're working, if you're signing that
kind of a big deal, then then you're just the mainstream media. But
isn't that the goal, Ryan, Like, isn't that the goal of the
entire thing is to I mean, I would guess for some people is to
grow and continue to become bigger, more successful, to be more successful and
bring in more money? Is that not the goal? Like what am I
missing here? I don't understand some people for some people, and I get
what you're saying, because there's certain I think if there's any kind of enemy
of let's call it alternative media, it's alternative media. They rip themselves down
and rip themselves apart. That I completely agree with you on and I see
that you know myself. Now, obviously I don't have a multimillion dollar deal
with Spotify, and it's just because I've had a radio show for fourteen years.
People accuse me of working for the deep State, the cabal, the
Illuminati, the Department of Homeland Security, the Department of This, the Department
of That. I've been accused by the FBI, the CIA, and I
don't even have a multimillion dollar deal. And it's usually because I say something
that conflicts with with the echo chamber of one one thing or another. That
could be UFOs, it could be I mean, people accuse me of working
for the World Economic Forum because I tell people, Hey, I don't eat
meat. It's like that makes me work for the World Economic Forum because I
don't like hamburgers, you know, I don't do you want the New World
Order, Ryan, you want a new World Order? You don't want to
precisely precisely, Yeah, I'm working for the New World Order. Like it's
an organization and they pay taxes or something. Yeah, so that's definitely all
true personally, like i'd listen. This is I don't know. My view
might be a little bit weird or different than some people's view on this,
but I listen. I've listened to Joe Rogan. I don't dislike the guy.
I like his interview style too, it's very laid back. Personally,
I don't like the I don't like the like when he was with Elon Musk
and they smoked weed, Like, I don't like weed. I don't like
anything to do with that. That's a personal opinion. So I have like
my personal opinions about it. I don't hate him. I don't really like
listen all the time. But in the alternative media, I agree with you
that people rip each other down and there's a lot of jealousy. And I
think where there is jealousy usually is because people are one of two things,
and maybe there are more as well, but I think one of two things
people are jealous because why aren't they making the same kind of money? Or
maybe and maybe there's three things. One, they're jeous because they're not making
the same kind of money, they're not getting the same kind of attention.
Two and I say this from my own experience, like I've done this for
so long, I feel like I deserve a little more respect within the field
than what I get, and people that do basically nothing get more respect and
more attention than what my show gets, despite the fact that I've done this
two three times as long as they have, so that frustrates me. I'm
not upset when those people are successful. I'm upset of the situation because it
doesn't seem fair to do something for fourteen years and push a lot of new
ideas and then basically be overshadowed by people that have no clue what they're talking
about most of the time. So I can say that for my own experience,
And then of course there are people that are just upset. I think
within the dichotomy of not understanding that sometimes people are just successful and sometimes the
system, like if the system, let's call it the system, the system
really really really really wanted to get rid of Joe Rogan, it would,
but guess what, Joe Rogan makes the system a lot of money, so
they're not going to get of Joe Rogan. It doesn't matter what he says.
He's had Alex Jones on his show. He's had everybody, every big
name want to show controversial people, and he just keeps getting bigger and bigger
deals. Why because he makes people a lot of money. If Alex Jones
wasn't making people the kind of money that he's making, despite the fact that
he might have his own financial troubles, he wasn't making somebody money somewhere,
he'd be completely removed. He'd be completely gone. It wouldn't just be deplatformed.
Stations wouldn't carry him. He's making people money. I'm not saying that's
bad. I don't dislike Alex Jones, but it's like people get successful and
you know, they make other people money and at that point politics don't even
matter. In fact, politics make you more money because if you're opposed to
this side and you're for this other side, then you're making one side money
and the other. It's like all marketable, right, it doesn't matter which
way you slice it. Someone's making a lot of money off of these things
that we think are these individual political viewpoints and slogans and phrases that we have
independently within our movie marketable. Yeah, it's very marketable. And I just
don't like the fact that the community pounds on people and uh, you know,
slices them up and stabs them in the back whenever they have success.
It's not like Joe Rogan came out of nowhere. Dude. He's been doing
it for a really long time. I think he's been doing it just as
long as you have. He was just the first person to do it.
He's the first person to do it. He deserves to have success. I
don't care what he's talking about on a show. He's one of the few
people that I'll just put on his podcast, don't even know the topic of
what they're talking about, and I'll still listen even if I disagree with It
doesn't matter to me. You know what that you know what that is?
Writer? I want to know your opinion on this. Do you think that
that's kind of like because someone's successful, it's like, well, they they
must be doing something malicious because they're successful and they're making money. There's certainly
a parallel there absolutely. I think that that is the whole thing of the
community is that they think that if someone is successful, then they must be
doing something sleazy, or they must be a slime ball, or they must
be scamming someone or frauding someone. And that's not always the case. Bro.
Sometimes people are just successful. They are like, you can't be organically
successful, Like, that's ridiculous, that's a ridiculous notion, and that's a
very dangerous notion. Just like people think that when they talk about the president,
they're like, oh, the president doesn't matter. That is very dangerous.
That's dangerous thinking the president. This whole idea that the president doesn't matter,
regardless if you think that he does or not. It's a dangerous position
to take. So it says the idea that it's all corrupt, so just
burn sound exactly. And that's where David Ayke is that he's on that bandwagon
and he's fueling these people to just attack and bash anybody within the community that
has any amount of success or has any kind of popularity. They can't be
telling the truth if they're successful, Ryan, they can't be telling you the
real truth. If they're making money at what they're doing You got to be
doing this all for free, dude. He can't be making money doing this
at all, which is a complete contradiction because David Ike's acting like he's never
made any money off of doing any of this. How many books does he
have a lot many books as he sold? You know? So it's like,
dude, like you're you're a contradiction, You're you're a hypocrisy, You're
you're very hypocritical of everything. And it's just a very dangerous notion, dude,
because it holds people back from becoming successful and making something of themselves within
this community, because people then turn their back on them because whenever they reach
a certain amount of success, they think that they're with the cabal, right,
they're working for the illuminati because they got so successful. It's ridiculous.
I've never seen I can't say one way or the other. I'm not doubting
you. I've just never seen any of this stuff from David Dyke because I
don't really use Twitter, so I'll have to go look some of that up.
In regard to some other names, like for example, I'll give you
an example here that might might be a good, a good thing to discuss
just for a moment. Personally, my personal opinion, I don't trust Russell
Brand. I don't know what it is. There's something about him. I
don't trust him. And the fact that he became ultra popular. I mean,
he was already ultra popular because of his acting, stand up comedy and
all that. I get that, but he became this ultra popular alternative media
conspirac voice pretty quickly, and to me, that weirded me out. I've
listened to his stuff and it might just be that, Okay, he's very
famous, so people listen to him. And I have my own frustrations with
that because there are people I know in my personal life they're like, did
you hear Russell Brand said about the UN I was like, dude, I
told you that shit fifteen years ago. What are you talking about. Well,
he just said it last week. Yeah, And I said it last
week fifteen years ago. Like, to me, that's frustrating. That's not
the reason I don't trust him. I get some weird vibe from him.
So there are certain people, let's say alternative media, who like it's just
a personal thing, like there's just something about him. I don't necessarily agree
with her, like I don't feel that way about Joe Rogan, but I
certainly feel that way a little bit about Russell brand And I don't it's really
I don't go over the edge or overboard like we were just saying and think
it's all corrupt, let's burn it all down. But there certainly are I
would say, infiltrators, not even necessarily the end of visual you know,
in the case of Russell Bran, but they're infiltrators that want to use things
that kind of sound crazy and wacky, like look at Stup Peters. How
the hell does Stup Peters get the attention Stu Peters gets. That guy makes
up stuff like a mad lib. He makes up so many ridiculous false claims
and he just explodes on social media. I have to think that the algorithm
allows that because it promotes a lot. I mean, you listen to that
guy a lot of not to say that some of the stuff he says isn't
true, but a lot of disinformation. So in some cases, I think,
and this is just the example, I'm selecting the person in this case
Stup Peters. I think that he might be a genuine guy, but he
says so much nonsense. The algorithm tends to like that, and it pushes
his stuff above all the other stuff that might be more legitimate. So there
certainly is cause for concern in that regard, but we shouldn't burn the whole
system down, and we shouldn't be upset when people are successful. Yeah,
it just really bothers me, and it really irks me. And this isn't
you know, me kissing Joe Rogan's ass. It's just me using him as
an example. I mean, it could have been anyone. I mean,
David Acus had done it to Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson. And there's a
reason why these people aren't popular. And it's not always because they're working for
the intelligence community, right, it's not. That's not always the case.
But people have been got it in their head that anyone that's successful in this
arena has to be working for the government. So so backwards, dude,
it's so it's so ridiculous. And you know, when you look at look
back at you know, Joe Rogan, Dude, they he was already famous.
He was a he was a stand up comedian, He was on fear
Factor, fear Factor for a long time. He worked for the UFC.
You know as an announcer. So it's like it's not like it just happened
overnight. There was a progression there. It's not like he just came onto
the scene and all of a sudden he just exploded and just now got this
two point five million dollar contract with Spotify. He's been doing this for fourteen
years. It's the same thing with Alex Jones. I mean I listened to
him toward the beginning. You know, he used to do radio kind of
like I used to do, like just out of a small little apartment.
You know, he's been around forever. And people think Alex Jones just popped
up one day and got real famous and he's controlled by the deep state or
whatever that means. There's just so much of this stuff just seems like if
there is any intentionality behind the debates and discussions, it's all about getting people
to just constantly be in conflict with one another and not know who to trust
and even themselves. And if there's any maliciousness and inten intentionality behind this,
I think that's what it is. It doesn't matter who you can or can't
trust, or who you think you can or can't trust. People just constantly
fight and rip each other apart. And I mean that's certainly if there is
a conspiracy, I think that's probably what it's aim to getting people to do,
because when you do that, then you're not asking questions. You're certainly
not asking critical questions. And you know, there's also I think the intelligence
factor, because there's different levels of intelligence, not necessarily the host of a
show, but in terms of the types of questions that are asked, Like
this is something I know that frustrates you and I when it comes to eufology.
You hear these UFO shows that are just like, well, what did
David Grush say today? Here's what you Oh my god, he said there's
aliens and he didn't say anything like that. But people will click click click
click click click click click on that, you know, like like they're going
to enlarge their penis, just like can I get that in the mail right
now? Right now? They want they want to click the click click click
on that. But then when you get other people like yourself, right that
ask really legitimate UFO questions, nobody wants that at a conference. Nobody wants
to hear that. For the most part, it's not it's not marketable in
the same way. So a lot of the stuff has to do with marketability,
like I said, and it's about what sells and what doesn't sell.
It's not necessarily the intelligence factor, but a show like Joe Rogan, Joe
Rogan's a very smart guy, but his conversations are much more laid back and
relaxed, and a lot of them, not all of them, and a
lot of them they're kind of I don't know how you feel about this term,
but for me, it frustrates me. I don't like the broish culture,
and there's a little bit of that broishness with Joe Rogan, so that,
of course attracts a lot more people than if he were to host a
very intellectual, scholarly type show, which would not have the same attraction to
people. And that's just who he is, and that's great, and I
like his show too, and I like Joe Rogan, but it's about the
marketability of it. You could do the same show, have the same background,
but if you were highly scholarly about how you went about it, it's
not going to attract the average person to listen to that show man or woman.
So it's about crafting an image. A lot of that's just how you
market a product, and I think he's very good at that as well.
And not only that too. It's like you brought up brought up the UFO
community, and if you were to answer the UFO question. I was talking
to Jay Wider about this the other day, if you were to answer the
UFO question, and let's say we which I think that I've figured it out
to the best of my knowledge through my research and my study and the things
that I've read. But if you were to take that to a conference and
you were to talk about it, there's too too many facts there. There's
too many uh concrete, there's too much evidence. And that's one thing that
ufology does not like. It does not like evidence. It does not like
facts because it doesn't let the continuous amount of speculation and theories to continue on.
And that is the marketability of uifology is to keep asking the same questions
over and over and over again and get regurgitation after regurgitation, slightly changed every
once in a while from year to year, but never answering any of the
questions. The answers are supposed to just make you question things even more.
That is what I figured out about the conspiracy community. That is what I
figured out about ufology. You never answer any of the questions. There is
a true sense of paranoia in alternative forms of media. I mean in mainstream
media. If you listen to every mainstream thing, people just regurgitate what they
hear, and if anybody suggests that there might be facts that exist outside of
that paradigm, they're really paranoid and think that you're delusional, and vice versa.
And you have the alternative media, which includes covering the same kinds of
things, whatever it is. They think they have the answers, and when
you think differently, they think, oh, you must be working for the
mainstream media. You must be working for the cabal. You see, both
sides do the same thing. You're working for the conspiracy theorist, you're just
a conspiracy note or you're working for the cabal, you're working for the illuminati.
As if nobody is allowed to have their own thoughts, you know,
aren't allowed to ask their own questions. And this is something that I mean,
I face, I know you face too with during the show that you
do is all you have to do is present another opinion, and if it's
alternative to one group, or another group, it's seen as being in conflict
and therefore you must be the enemy of that group. And when even when
you're just asking honest questions, like that's real, that's true paranoia, Like
some people really are paranoid, and that's what the mainstream always accuses anybody who
disagrees with them of. But it's also something that the mainstream is just as
guilty of. It's paranoia. It's unjust suspicion. Everybody suspicious of everything and
everybody and every claim. And that's not just paranoia. That creates delusion when
people become disconnected from reality, and that's what you're seeing from UFOs to Bigfoot.
It's delusion and it's paranoia. And we don't get much relevant, I
would call it. We don't get much relevant and honest discussions about any of
those things because everybody seems to be running and waddling around and crawling around like
a rabbit animal. Mental illness, yes, that is what it is.
It's a community full of mentally ill people. In fact, Jack Fallet said
that in Passport to Magonia, I just finished that book again and that was
one of the things I think I sent it to you. The quote he
had about eufology and when you don't really address the issue, and maybe even
when this info is spread and people just have this mystery in front of them
and have no idea what it is and they're told all these contradictory things.
It breeds that kind of behavior and that can be used psychologically to control people,
like to quite literally control people's minds. That is exactly what you see
in ufology. It doesn't matter what your opinions or politics are on any of
these issues. That's the kind of behavior you see bread out of the artificial
constructs and debates that are had within those subjects and many others, massive synthetic
societal changes that have been led on by imagination, fancy, paranoia, and
delusion. Yes, I agree we have something else going on as well,
because I've been talking about for the past couple of weeks now about how fragile
our society is and if the Internet were to get wiped then what would we
have. We would basically have nothing or our entire generation for the past twenty
four years has all been built around the Internet, and if the Internet goes
down then we're screwed. Basically everything has been digitized, books, have been
digitized. Money has been digitized. If you think that they're getting they're going
to do a digital currency, the digital currency is already here. The banks
are the digital currency. We've been working with digital currency for decades. Now.
You know what I hate. I have to make a very quick comment
writer. I hate about this, the CBDC Central Bank digital currency thing.
You hear these commercials with central bank digital currency on the horizon. Governments could
track exactly what you spend, so you need to buy gold and silver,
and I'm thinking we already do that. It's called a credit card, it's
called every transaction you make is cataloged. Yep, yep, that's exactly right.
I've been seeing that for a while now. It's ridiculous they think that
a digital currency is going to make it any different than what it already is.
It already is digital. Your money is not really in the bank.
It's a digital currency. It's just numbers, right. And I've been talking
about how you know, if the Internet goes down, that's going to create
a giant problem. And I think that the whole push toward the digitalization of
everything has been revolving around that. In order for them just to come in
and wipe everything, and then two hundred years. I think we talked about
this on Leave the World Behind episode that we did together. In one hundred
to two hundred years, it would be like we didn't even exist. And
I believe we're starting to see the remnants of the beginning of this. Because
Google will no longer back up the Internet. Cashed web pages are dead.
Google will no longer keep backing up keep a backup of the entire Internet.
Google Search cash links have long been gone. Long been an alternative way to
load the website that is down or has been changed, but now the company
is killing them off. Google uh Danny's Sullivan confirmed the future removal of x
posts seeing the feature was meant for helping people across access web pages when way
back you often couldn't depend on the page loading. These days, things have
greatly improved, so we've decided to retire it. The future has been appearing
and disappearing for some people since December, and currently we don't see any cash
links in the Google Search for now. You can still build your own cash
links even without the button, just by going to this website page here.
Cash and Google user conten dot com slash search cash plus a website r L
or by typing cash plus URL into Google Search. For now, the cash
version seems to still work. All of Google supported pages about cash sites have
been taken down, and I think that this is a start of the removal
of things that came previously, and then all the things that we've been doing
for the past twenty four years on the internet. And that's a recent article
too, that was like a couple of days ago, right, yeah,
yeah, And not only that, but I did a show last year.
I think I mentioned it on a couple of other shows. I did a
full show on deep fake and what is the other one called. I call
it something like voice mirroring, where you can get audio recordings, you can
get videos. Of course people know what deep fake is, but the technology
has gotten to the point now where it's so advanced. I mean, it
doesn't look like the deep fake of a year ago. I mean, that's
just it's rapidly developing, because it was a big problem for a while.
You'd have like on video and some celebrities face put on the on the actress
or something like that, or you'd have that done with you know, movies
like movie clips or something you take another celebrity and change their face out and
you could I mean, if you glance at it, you couldn't tell,
but you could tell if you look close enough, like, oh, that's
not so and so. But now it's a lot more sophisticated just twelve months
later, and it'll be more sophisticated in the next six months. And there
was a story from CBS News and a bunch of others back in twenty twenty
three. This was just a few weeks ago, but there are other stories
that go back even further. It says AI guardrails fade or as guardrails for
AI fate, AI deep fakes go mainstream. This and this is what all
I mean. They're intelligence agencies. The press is using this for psychological reasons.
But people are very worried about this in government and intelligence communities. Businesses
are worried about this, and the average person should be worried about it.
Not so much Minority report because they don't need to make up things and arrest
you based on algorithms for things you might do in the future. Now they
can just find evidence on you of things that you've never done. But there's
video proof, there's audio proof, of you doin something you didn't do,
and you might go to jail for that. It's a much bigger issue than
just minority reports. And this is all recent stuff. That's and then I
mean, this technology is going to be more advanced next month. We have
several months, what two hundred and forty something days until the election. I
mean that's a lot of time for this technology to become even more advanced and
sophisticated. And it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter whether it's real or not.
It will persuade people to think one way or another because it's so convincing
and judging them off of how spiteful people are. They could do this to
somebody over nothing. They can ruin an entire life. They could break up
an entire family. Dude, Yeah, they can put somebody in jail for
something that they never did because they said something to them that they didn't like.
You can, I mean you can. There's little things online. You
can fake text messages. I mean, if you wanted to, you wanted
to, you know, I don't know, break up you know, your
your your best friend's marriage or something. You could just you have fake text
message. Look, your husband texted me asking to have sex with me.
You know you can. You can. You can make fake text messages,
fake videos, fake I mean, and this is just what people like you
and I can do. This is this doesn't account for what the military can
do or what the intelligence community can do. And we know those agencies and
groups are absolutely involved in political manipulation. Who knows what to believe. So
people, probably more than ever, will either one of two things. Distrust
the system entirely and say burn it all down, screw it, or they
will cling even tighter to their political affiliations, and it'll be even more difficult
to have policy discussions because hey, as I talked about on a recent show
of Mindwriter, eighteen percent in a Newsweek poll said that they would vote for
the candidate that Taylor Swift votes for. So we don't even have to make
discussions or decisions based on policies anymore. We'll just decide based on what Taylor
Swift is thinking. And she's a really good judge of character because she's had
you know, such a great, you know marriage for so long. She
doesn't have all these all these boyfriends and all these relationships, so she she's
a really good judge of character. To know who to vote for for president.
It is just unbelievable and incomprehensible that that's where we are. It's like
a dystopian movie or something. But they've been using those people for a really
long time since Milk. Hollywood got Milk's a great example of that too.
And you know that if you if you look at the if you look at
the way in which the power I mean, like the power of the celebrity
hodaism, I mean it's been for for a long long time. It's like
a religion. People follow these folks like their saints or like they're almost like
their gods. It's a way to distance yourself from personal responsibility and attach yourself
to someone who's perceptually successful. I mean, it's really nothing new. It's
these celebrities and these musicians and these singers and these people have they've been used
in that way for a really long time, so it's it's not really anything
new. But Taylor Swift is the most popular celebrity right now. She's basically
the new Michael Jackson, is what she is. She has that kind of
level of fame as to what Michael Jackson had, so obviously she's very influential,
and but it lacks all common sense and critical thinking to listen to a
celebrity and base your opinions and believes in what you're going to do with your
life off of their opinions and believes it's ridiculous. That's so stupid. That
doesn't mean that a celebrity can't. I mean people say, well, Donald
Trump should run for president. He was a real TV reality star. It's
like, well, that's true, that's funny, and you can play around
with that. But you know, like anybody can run for president, at
least theoretically right. Anybody can run for office. It doesn't matter if you're
a politician already, it doesn't matter if you're a TV star or you're a
former sports athlete. You know, anybody has the right quote unquote to run
for office. It's the issue is looking at somebody and thinking, well,
wow, they're successful. If I vote for who they vote for, maybe
I'll be successful. Because that's what's happening on a subconscious level. That's why
you buy the perfume and the cologne, and you buy the jeans and the
t shirts and and the shoes and the cars because celebrities have them. You
know, that's why you drink milk because look, oh my god, look
Angeline n Joe Lee has a milk mustache. That's how she became tomb Raiders.
She drank a lot of milk. I'm gonna drink milk too. That's
what's happening in the subconscious. It's disgusting. Well, people act like Trump
was the only reality TV star that's ever been president. Ronald Reagan he was
an actor, was an actor, so Celenski he's literally an actor. Yeah,
I know, Ronald Reagan was in I would think, what nineteen or
so movies. He was Donald Trump before Donald Trump was Donald Trump. And
everyone pretty much loved Ronald Reagan. So I it's like this whole idea and
this thought that, well, well, you can't have a reality or a
TV star movie star be president. Well, Ronald Reagan was a lot of
people liked him. JFK. John F. Kennedy was the same way.
I mean, the psychologists think that that the only reason he won that election
was because of TV and because of the way that he looked well when women
loved him because he was probably the most attractive president we've ever had, and
women back then, I guarantee those women, they dress nice, they look
like Jackie Kennedy, they carried themselves differently. I bet those women the same
exact thing that people do today. I'm going to vote for him because I
like his hair. That's why people voted for Kennedy. Well, and Kennedy
was doing and that's not to disparage Kennedy. He was doing a lot of
really good things. And I think probably the last true Democrat, probably the
least your Jim Democrat. Yeah, the issue is that when you when democracy
relies on the lowest common denominator, That's why this isn't a democracy. The
lowest common denominator of the person who doesn't know how to put gas in their
car or doesn't know how to boil water, but they're going to vote for
someone who's going to make decisions for the rest of us. That's a problem.
Well, Ryan, thanks so much for coming on. Brother. We
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