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This is I on the Ball with
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Welcome to Hi had the ball got
a Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve

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Rivera, you're jagon Zalece. We
got a guy, Jason in its just

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to your last Yeah. I'll get
the clinics out and you bring him a

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cupcake or something. You can't bring
him any candy. He doesn't. He

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doesn't like the candy we like.
What the hell, Jason, I'm a

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chocolate guys. I'm a chocolate guy
too, but I like other stuff.

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Okay, Well, I'm bret to
Molly's. Man, I'm pretty thick with

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what. I'm a black cocake okay, No, okay, of your chocolate,

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what chocolate bars or whateverybody like the
best? Rec's okay, good,

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they're you're okay, okay, we're
on the scene. No, my chocolate

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for you A Milky Way guy,
Snickers, Guy Snakers? Yeah yeah,

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no, No, welcome to our
Eminem's candy. Yeah, okay, that's

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list an odd start to this show. Hey man, we're trying to get

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to know Jason leave the only video
A few bunds. Yeah, okay,

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okay, school starts next week,
you'll be gone. Oh so in the

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new crop of in terms will be
coming home hopefully cool. Okay, welcome

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to the show. Today's Thursday,
right where you're in this Thursday. I

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know you thought yesterday was day.
I was wishing it was Thursday because I

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went the end of the week to
happen. But a lot of things going

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on. Football practice kind of ended
for the for the open media practices are

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over today and final scrimmage stay Saturday
night. Saturday night in front of some

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kids who are back for school,
maybe maybe a parent or two. Yeah.

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So, so let me ask you
this because Chris came in. Chris

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came in, our intrepid crazy man
at the country station gave us a gave

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go ahead and tell what the poll
was? Well, he ran a pole.

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Uh, you know, I think
it was is your favorite? Is?

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It was? Was the question which
is your favorite? No? No,

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no? What are you? What
are you most looking forward? But

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are you most looking forward to?
The trices were Arizona football, men's basketball,

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women's basketball and he got one of
those was fifty one percent. Yeah,

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yeah, football, Well you surprised, No, I'm not surprised because

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it makes the most sense, right
the team is, you know how they're

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looking the high behind No Jets third
year. It just makes sense, like

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the momentum and everything. There's more
football fans because you can, you can

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put fifty thousand people in the Upbut
stating I don't I don't want to say

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yes or no to that, but
I think that people are dying for it

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to succeed. And they already know
Arizona basketball is, so who who I

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go there? Yeah, And maybe
the way the questions were to which are

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you most looking forward to? Maybe
there's a lot of people who are just

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curious and I want to see what's
this gonna look like? Another factor?

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Yeah, No, I don't disagree
with you with that. And there's there's

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a lot of football fans that want
to be great football fans. They just

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don't have a team to follow.
I've been saying Steve, I think in

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the end, fans here love their
football more than they love their basketball,

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and they want football to win so
bad. And maybe part of why they're

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like that is because it's been so
hard, right that when when when Arizona

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football wins, it's way more special. Right, Oh yeah, because we've

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gotten you. Sure. Sure,
Let me ask you. So you grew

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up here board in the early sixties
whatever sixty baby boomer, let me say

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so, in the seventies, what
was the what was the early seventies,

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mid seventies, what was the population? One hundred thousand, two hundred thousand

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and maybe mostly two Soonans or most
mostly two Soonans. Because this is where

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I wanted to go with it,
and I'm just this is not I think

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there's no there's nothing scientific about that. That's just my thought. And you

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gotta understand it in the in,
you know, in the in in the

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early to mid seventies, I was
in junior high night school. Okay.

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So my one is, if everyone
or a lot of people are coming from

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out of town, right, there's
no love, there's no affiliation to the

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university. So that's part of the
problem of getting people into the stands because

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they're from Iowa or whatever, they're
not born and bred. Yeah, but

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I think I think when people get
here and let's say people have been here

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for you've been here five six,
seven, eight, nineteen years. You

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do kind of get attached to the
u of A because everywhere you go,

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there's there's a yeah connection, it's
it's what you see, it's what you

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hear about. The university is such
a big piece of who we are as

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a city. So I think ultimately
people do get attached. I think people

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who come here and aren't here for
a long time, yeah, they're kind

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of hanging on to where they came
from. But you know, you know,

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Paul Sigalia says, you're twosone as
far as we're concerned. You know,

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you've been here thirty years. Yeah, oh yeah, yea, yea,

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yeah, that's but that's what I'm
saying. That's scientific. Yeah,

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but you know, but but you
care about the UVA. Yeah because I

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cover? Yeah, I covered.
Okay. But let me ask you this.

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If you were a sports fan okay, but not a sports writer,

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Okay, a sports fan, do
you think you God, that's tough,

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would you be going to you be
going to football ticket? Jay? I

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to tell you the truth, I
do not know. I would. I

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would try to get my friends that
you have an extra ticket, get that

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and do it that way. Mexico
State. But I'm not as I wouldn't

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haven't even done that. I haven't
done that. I haven't done that.

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I'd go, I'd go, or
do you think it might become a Phoenix

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sports fan? Sports? I'm not
that big. I love sports. I

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love sports. I'm like Jason and
knows all these things like you. But

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if you get older, you kind
of just say, oh, you know,

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what's not a big deal anymore.
I don't really care. I don't

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know Jay. I'm saying this honestly. When people say, hey, let's

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go watch the Cowboys or whatever,
this is okay. But I'm not,

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you know, like, yeah,
let's go. Yeah, I hear you,

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because I'm just the dude who likes
to see sports. Yeah. I

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can just see him on the TV
too. Yeah yeah, I think Yeah,

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I like watch it on TV.
To be honest, Like, if

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I are free time, find out
a ticket out, I'll go to the

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game. Most of the time,
I'll probably watch it. Yeah, but

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am I gonna spend You just went
to Dodger game because you're a darkard Dodger

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guy. You spend X amount of
months I spend. But I mean,

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I mean I spend mine to go
to Fenway Park because you want sports fan,

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and I wanted the experience of going
to Fenway Park. I go to

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others, you know, when I
go to other cities, I try to

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go to ball games. You know, on a on a business trip to

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the Bayer, I went to a
Giant's Rockies game and sat in the ultimate

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nosebleed seat at Candlestick Park. But
I wanted to go to the ballpark,

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you know. I went to Chicago
and I went to Kmiskey Park. Let

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me also say this, Jay,
because I was in the business for a

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long time, traveled everywhere, I
might have been gamed out. Maybe that's

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what I'm saying. It's hard,
it's I know, it's hard to separate

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that from whom you are now.
But if you were a fan, if

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you were in Tucson, living in
Tucson, you like you really liked sports,

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Okay, you know, would you
care about the UVA. I think

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I think you'd go to some baseball
probably maybe maybe you're not a season ticket

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hold or do it, but I
think you'd go to some games. I

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don't disagree and packed my store.
But I'll tell you this, it's like

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next week, there's a chance that
you and I might go maybe not together

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to go at sell point play right
whoever, because I'm curious about the kids

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that we talked about talking about,
and that makes me a sports fans for

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that, right, But I wouldn't
look at the game or the score.

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But you're not you're not. But
you're not the average fan right now and

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you have you haven't been even since
you've got here, yeah, right,

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or even even before that, before
you got true because you know how it

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is how we teach the kids.
You're you're you're you're you're not right or

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you're not left, you're done in
the middle. You're not supposed to cheer

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for your your your teams that you
cover. And that's kind of what I

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turned into, which is sad,
but it's true. See, I was

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a big fan. That's why you've
got early and you got out and I

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got because I wanted to be a
fan. But from a very early age,

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you know, I was riding the
bus to you know, to the

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U of A to go to you
know, basketball and football games and baseball

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game. She's never left you,
that's never left it never did so Jason

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too. So you're covering the team
now you're a U a student. How

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do you feel. Yeah, I
mean I gotta grew up with no loyalty

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any team. I'm pretty like me, Yeah, because I kind of grew

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up out. Is that sad or
not sad? No, I mean that

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still enjoy sports sad. That's my
point. People say, when we talked

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about this earlier on the show,
is I'm not a sports fan. You

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say, shut up, people,
of course you're a sports fan. It's

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sad. It's not sad. We
just go to watch the game. Yeah,

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you still enjoy sports, you know, but you don't have a loyalty

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or so you're you're good to your
end. I think that we're good to

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our end. Yeah for sure.
Yeah, No, you you well,

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you enjoy sports the way you enjoy
sports, and that's pretty much how how

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people do it. You know,
you're and you're not gonna talk people into

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you know, something else, and
you're you're right, you know, you

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get the person that moved your three
years ago from you know, from whatever

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wherever they're they're going to continue to
care about that team. I just think

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at some point you're hunger for to
go see sporting events, to go to

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a football game, go to a
basketball you the only thing you've got in

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Tucson is you have a sports Unless
you're a hockey fan, you go to

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the Roadrunners if you want to see
some pro football, but go on to

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pay three hundred dollars to go to
a Cardinals game. You might go see

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the Sugar Skulls. But other than
that, you got Arizona Sports or the

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high schools, and so you know, and and and that's why. That's

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why I think that for instance,
you know a c has lost so much

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of its of its fan bases because
you know, the it's really it's people

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from every Sure, either you're a
diehard a issue you guys, or you're

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not, or you're not you're not
right, And there's some in tropolis.

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They should seriodically get a lot of
people to go to the games. They

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should be able to fill up all
those days. Sure. Sure, No,

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If ten of my friends came in
from college or from back home they

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wanted to go to a game,
I'd say, could somebody else cover the

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game for me? Because I want
to be Yeah, maybe not so cho

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fan, but go with them to
have some fun, right you know?

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So yeah, no, but I
think I think there's still a good core

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of of Tucson fans that love,
you know, going to you have a

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stock. Yeah, well and get
and to to to Chris's uh, Chris's

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uh poll. I think football tops
them out, and I've always thought that,

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and I think, you know,
there's there might even be an element

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of it's been so hard to go
to Arizona basketball games, tough to get

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tickets and stuff, and some people
are kind of like, yeah, I'm

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I'm a big fan, but I'm
a fan enough to just I watch it

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at home because I'm used to watch
it at home, and maybe I'm not

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as passionate about it as I am. To you have a football games which

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I go to, I go to, I'm there, I see it.

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I mean I'm in the middle of
all of it, whereas you're watching the

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basketball games on television. You can
separate yourself that stuff. Yeah, we'll

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see. I found it kind of
interesting. But I think there's caveats to

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those polls. The poll, Yeah, no, there are, but I

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think that I really do believe that, And maybe, like I said,

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it was just that the special football
seasons in the history of Arizona football have

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been very few. There's just been
a handful of and those times have felt

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so great that that's what people hunger
for. It's funny. I was gonna

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bring you up. T J guy. We both know you. He's from

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Tour and he's from Florida. Went
to the University of Florida. Was there

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for the spur of your time.
So she went to Iowa, did his

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thing over there, and he came
here right away. The first thing he

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did was by season tickets to because
he's a sports fan, football fan,

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he has a love for all those
other places. But he says, if

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I'm going to be in this community, I want to watch some football.

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I don't know if it's good football, but you you want to be part

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of the conversation, right, You
want to be having lunch with somebody who

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might be talking about you by football. And you don't say I don't care,

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you go, you know, But
again, I mean, I told

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you years ago we went to an
Arizona State SIMIU game football because we needed

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some college football that weekend. Right, But it's also in the It was

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also good apparently good game. It
was the must it was the yeah during

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their whole expressed yeah. And we
went to saw that game, you know,

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and and I've you know, I've
gone to games you know, elsewhere,

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so you know, I'm a I'm
a sports fan in that regards,

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like I like to just go see
games wherever I can be if I'm in

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a big time atmosphere. But in
the end, I am an Arizona fan,

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and I think there's a lot of
a lot. I think there's a

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lot of people like me who do
that because they love they love the sports.

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Yes they're fans of Arizona, but
they'll see sports others. We only

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have two minutes here, so let
me if you were to give uh,

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Dave Peaky a suggestion, and you
know a lot of people in that building,

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so do why but you know them
in a different way, Uh,

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what would you give them a tip
to to sell the tickets that need to

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sell to the people that want to
go, because that's not happening. I

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think people like that who are who
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go or not. They make decisions
on ticket price, game times. You

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know, is it too hot to
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need to go sit in the heat
for this, so it might be game

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times. Uh, scheduling right if
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you still have some basketball tickets to
sell. You know, people want to

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see you know, Duke and Kansas
and those teams. So I think it's

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kind of those three things and those
that's that's a lot of stuff to deal

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with, you know, year to
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can't get teams to come and play
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a certain thing because you gotta make
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that kind of stuff. So I
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that, and who are trying to
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see They make decisions based on those
things. Welcome to Tucson. That's it.

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Welcome to Tucson. It's pretty much
like that anywhere. I'm a thing.

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Yeah, I don't know too well. I've been here too long that

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I did. I see it every
day, every every game day, basketball,

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football, later arriving, what are
we gonna do, Let's go to

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the game, blah blah bla.
Were we gonna go to dinner before the

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game? All that kind of stuff. Yeah, absolutely, Okay, Hey

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a good show today. Yeah we
have who do we have? Stop bruth?

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Bruce Pasco all the way from ABU
Dhabi's gonna be calling it in here

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in a sec. We're gonna talk
to Bruce just about what he's seen up

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there in the last few days.
They've had a couple of games, beats

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and beat the hell out of another
team this morning, and then we're gonna

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start to talk to some high school
stuff. We're gonna have Dustin Peace,

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the head coach of CDEO. I
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he's my neighborhood. But have your
the of all the teams in is the

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best one to have much state title, most likely to get a state title,

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coming off a season where they really
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with the whole suspensions and then still
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So well, they'll talk to him
about that. So Bruce Pasco coming right

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Jacob Sommits they have their eye on
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fourteen fifteen. Hey, welcome back
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Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. You're chickens ass. Now on the

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phone, we have Bruce Pascoe of
the Arizona Dainty Star from abroad. Who

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are you hanging out now, Bruce? Inside pretty much what everyone does here.

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Yeah, I mean like literally,
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outside at a restaurant here. They
just they don't open their terraces that.

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I went to one food truck last
night that actually has outdoors seating and I

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said, Hey, I'm gonna eat
over here, and they're like, are

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this is low and inside there's room
inside? Don't you want to come inside?

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And I told the guys, say, I'm from Arizona. Is not

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a big deal, and I check
it out and he's, you know,

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he didn't really know exactly what Arizona, So what's the temperature? Anyways,

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it was you know, I actually
just actually last night, I was riding

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back about midnight, and it was
ninety nine at that point. It was

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a little cooler tonight. Not that
you noticed, but I looked. I

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was actually writing a little note about
this because Tommy Litt was talking about all

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the Hayes. It's also a factor
here. But it is ninety three degrees

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tonight, and after you were you
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it was around ninety five at midnight
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humidity, dangerously humidity, and then
it says air quality and next is terrible.

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It's you know, it looks like
honestly on top of the architecture and

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other things that are just what you
don't see at you know, back in

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Arizona. It looks like you're in
another world. It feels like you're in

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another world. It's just it'same.
Well, okay, now let's go with

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the team. How has that been. You've been the gun for a while

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now, Yeah, yeah, I'm
sorry, I couldn't hear. Well,

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it's just you see two you see, let's let's go to the games.

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You've seen two games. You know, yeah, what are you what are

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you gleaning from the game so far? Because I know they really paid attention

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all that much to the scores,
because you know, it's the competition.

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But what do you see? I
don't know. I mean, you know

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you're seeing you know, they're they're
playing two teams that are uh, you

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know, just kind of both of
them thrown together a couple of practices.

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Each team had a couple of good
players, you know, But I think

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you know, that's like, you
know, I think you could be the

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you know, I get you know, Arizona certainly has moved the ball well,

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they moved the all fast. Uh
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think sixty something percent of their baskets
with assists are coming off assists, so

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that all that stuff is good.
But you know, do that translate to

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a team that's going to interrupt them
more defensively and maybe get them out of

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whack and get them, you know, out of rhythm or whatever. That

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certainly could happen because we saw even
the last you know, both of Tom

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Wood's first two seasons. Remember those
first three games they play at home against

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kind of easy opponents. They just
they average one hundred and five points and

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you know, thirty five assists or
whatever, and uh and then and then

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that would change sometimes when they ran
the supper teams. So I don't know

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if you can read a whole lot
into it, but certainly it does look

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like they're playing the way that Lloyd
wants them to play. And I think

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for me anyway, the biggest takeaway
is that, you know, some of

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the guys, you know, I
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a little more confident, like a
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you know, and then look at
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some confidence, look comfortable out there. You know, I can definitely see

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both of those guys playing a big
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even though this competition doesn't tell anything. I just think the way they they

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are moving out there and acting and
you know, the shows they can you

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know, they can handle this.
How has Ballo looked? There's been some

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some thoughts that he's a little overweight. It's not a lot overweight. How

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has you looked on the court?
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you know, not not not that
dominant, But you know, as

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he's been you know, but I
don't know, I'm it's kind of difficult.

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I mean, the matchups have been
a little weirder him they you know,

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he hasn't faced anybody like him,
and they've been playing the more of

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tempo game because they've been out to
get to run it and they're scoring a

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lot of transition baskets off turnovers.
I just think that Ballo has not really

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been part of a lot of that, and you know, I think what

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he does, he's still been pretty
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they haven't really needed that piece for
him, and maybe these two matchups,

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but it would be interesting. I
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big guy, but I imagine that
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that might be, you know,
that might bring out sort of more the

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best of him. Going back to
what you said a minute ago, you

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said, a couple of things that
I was thinking is that they just look

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like Tommy's teams have looked, maybe
even a little more athletic at the guard

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spot. Let's just say that,
you know that the guys that they have

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out there, you know, when
you compare him to Kurt Crease. You

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know, Kurt was a really good
guard, but he wasn't the guy that's

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going to go up and you know, dunk on a fast break, those

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kinds of things. And then just
the fact that they're doing what Tommy does,

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running up and down the floor passing
the ball. Uh, you know,

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very energetic and athletic. I mean, that's just kind of what you

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can take from it, at least
what I've taken from it so far.

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Yeah, I agree, I agree, Jay. I think the biggest question

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00:25:55.160 --> 00:25:57.839
to me is how do these pieces
all fit? Like how does Tommy keep

407
00:25:57.920 --> 00:26:03.039
them happy with the chemistry, Like, you know, we have Caleb Love

408
00:26:03.079 --> 00:26:07.720
who's shot a ton of shots at
North Carolina but seems willing to buy in.

409
00:26:07.839 --> 00:26:10.799
And then you know, so far
has has has played kind of,

410
00:26:11.200 --> 00:26:12.480
you know, just a role like
everybody else in there. And then you've

411
00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:17.440
got Colin Boswell stepping it up quite
a bit and his role and you know,

412
00:26:17.440 --> 00:26:21.559
probably going to be the primary point
guard. And you know, Jaden

413
00:26:21.599 --> 00:26:26.079
Bradley coming in from Alabama with quite
a pedigree he's got. And then and

414
00:26:26.119 --> 00:26:30.400
then you know, today they threw
out k J. Lewis for the first

415
00:26:30.400 --> 00:26:33.480
time, and he played pretty well, and it's like, okay, where's

416
00:26:33.519 --> 00:26:36.720
he got to play? You know, he looks like a guy, he's

417
00:26:37.279 --> 00:26:41.079
physical and you know, confidence seems
seems like he's a team oriented guy as

418
00:26:41.119 --> 00:26:44.559
well. That that maybe could help
him. So, you know, it

419
00:26:44.559 --> 00:26:47.920
would be interesting to see maybe maybe
they end up maybe Lloyd gens up and

420
00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:51.079
then in Philip or Beach and then
the topic they can play one, two

421
00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:53.839
or three basically still just goodn't matter, and as well as Kyla Larson.

422
00:26:53.960 --> 00:26:59.920
So you have all these guys,
how how is Lloyd gonna five h fort

423
00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:03.720
that out? And you know that's
something that will be really interesting to keep

424
00:27:03.759 --> 00:27:06.720
an eye on, you know,
early to season two. I think sounds

425
00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:10.319
like a rich man's problems with so
many talent, But you're you're right.

426
00:27:10.480 --> 00:27:14.960
It's funny. I remember when when
someone asked Sean about the happiness question,

427
00:27:15.000 --> 00:27:17.279
how do you keep them happy?
He said, keep them happy. I

428
00:27:17.319 --> 00:27:19.640
don't care about stuff like that.
I just want them to play. I

429
00:27:19.680 --> 00:27:23.880
think that Tommy Lloyds at least a
little less string stranger than that, right,

430
00:27:25.079 --> 00:27:26.279
he thinks I think he thinks about
that. He thinks about that.

431
00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:30.039
But but when you have ten eleven
guys that can actually play. That is

432
00:27:30.079 --> 00:27:33.400
going to be a little difficult,
although his style suits this right, right,

433
00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:38.359
Yeah, I mean that's the thing
if they you know, I mean

434
00:27:38.400 --> 00:27:42.799
we haven't seen that because he actually
had pretty defined starters his first couple of

435
00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:45.160
years, and you knew these guys
are going to get the you know,

436
00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:48.400
kirkcreas is going to get his minutes
and uh, you know, be the

437
00:27:48.480 --> 00:27:52.799
number one guy. This is gonna
be different. I think there's gonna be

438
00:27:52.599 --> 00:27:56.680
you know, a lot of different
options for them. And but maybe I

439
00:27:56.680 --> 00:28:00.880
mean they'll see even Yeah, certainly, if they score one hundred and seven

440
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:04.759
points, there's gonna be plenty of
balls and shots in minutes to go around.

441
00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:07.720
And guys may not even want to
play that much, you know,

442
00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:11.799
if there'll be tired if they give
up that pace. So that that is

443
00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:15.400
true, that could be part of
it, you know, And yeah,

444
00:28:15.519 --> 00:28:18.720
we'll see about what Lloyd thinks.
I think it's you know, he may

445
00:28:18.799 --> 00:28:22.880
not, I mean, you know
it, maybe I think other kids feel

446
00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:25.759
that way. If you do have
to keep on eye chemistry. But if

447
00:28:25.839 --> 00:28:29.519
you have a guy that's that's sulking
or whatever, and he's not playing it

448
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:32.640
as much, and you know he's
going to transfer. Maybe you think it's

449
00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:34.160
just as well, and you let
him, you know, you let him

450
00:28:34.200 --> 00:28:37.839
go. I don't you know,
I don't know. I don't know if

451
00:28:37.839 --> 00:28:41.640
that will happen with this group.
But you know, I think, you

452
00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:45.160
know, he just wants to play
the guys he has. But I think

453
00:28:45.160 --> 00:28:48.559
there's there's got to be some level
of you know, making sure the right

454
00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:52.000
combinations and on the right guys you
know, get along up there and play

455
00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:56.759
for each other. Might vote for
most impressive so far. And again we're

456
00:28:56.759 --> 00:28:59.279
talking, you know what the sampling
is, right, but you know,

457
00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:02.400
Borbovich and and you know, he
continued, he continues to impress. He

458
00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:04.319
looks like a guy, as you
said, can do a lot of things.

459
00:29:04.359 --> 00:29:07.920
But you know, the confidence that
he that he seems to have,

460
00:29:08.319 --> 00:29:11.759
you know, whether he gained that, you know, playing in the summer,

461
00:29:11.880 --> 00:29:15.079
you know, internationally, you know, or he just kind of was

462
00:29:15.160 --> 00:29:18.480
biding his time last year because he's
a guy that you know, he I

463
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:22.559
feel like he's making that step from
last year to this year that Umar Bellow

464
00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:26.119
made from his first year here to
the to the second year. He's just

465
00:29:26.119 --> 00:29:30.960
taking a big giant leap. Yeah, yeah, I definitely can see that

466
00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:33.720
happen, and that's kind of you
know, we'll see, but that's kind

467
00:29:33.720 --> 00:29:37.880
of how it was, you know, sort of broadcast when he when he's

468
00:29:37.920 --> 00:29:41.920
fine, it was like, okay, this this guy's got you know,

469
00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:45.119
it's some pretty high potential, but
he's not going to play much as a

470
00:29:45.119 --> 00:29:48.720
freshman. But he really could be
something because he's big and he you know,

471
00:29:48.839 --> 00:29:55.440
for his position, and you know
he's versatile, and now he's got

472
00:29:55.440 --> 00:29:59.599
that little piece of confidence that you
know, the pears came from playing in

473
00:29:59.640 --> 00:30:02.079
PRAC just a lot because he didn't
play a whole lot last year. And

474
00:30:02.519 --> 00:30:03.720
you know how it is in this
same age. A lot of times freshman,

475
00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:07.559
even if they're seen as high potential
guys, if they don't play a

476
00:30:07.559 --> 00:30:10.799
lot of freshman they get they get
upset and then they transfer at the end

477
00:30:10.839 --> 00:30:12.759
of the year. And you know, he didn't. He didn't do that.

478
00:30:12.839 --> 00:30:17.000
So it's kind of like that,
you know, kind of like an

479
00:30:17.000 --> 00:30:19.359
old school thing and you don't see
that much anymore, a player who sticks

480
00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:23.359
around and becomes from maybe he does. You know, how is this going

481
00:30:23.400 --> 00:30:26.960
to be interesting with with you know, with these other two, especially with

482
00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:33.400
Love and Jayden Bradley coming in where
you know how it can work out again.

483
00:30:33.680 --> 00:30:37.359
How has Martinez looked in with with
with your fresh eyes over there,

484
00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:45.359
you know, I mean it's he's
not he's actually I do think he's kind

485
00:30:45.400 --> 00:30:49.319
of like a potential spark club kind
of guy. Plays hard, He's pretty

486
00:30:49.319 --> 00:30:53.880
intense out there, but he's he's
definitely undersized. I think they're listening to

487
00:30:55.039 --> 00:31:00.640
at Dix. I'm not sure,
yeah, And I'm he's definitely not sixted

488
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:03.960
tall and and so you know,
there's gonna be justin there. But you

489
00:31:03.000 --> 00:31:07.000
know, if he is what he
is, you know what he could be

490
00:31:07.079 --> 00:31:10.480
at least, and you know,
maybe he has that potential being that point

491
00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:14.200
guard that that can really drive you
nuts, kind of as a pest kind

492
00:31:14.240 --> 00:31:18.720
of guy. You know that that's
so small and savvy that that that he

493
00:31:18.799 --> 00:31:22.920
can cause problems like that. We'll
see, but it's not gonna not going

494
00:31:22.960 --> 00:31:26.839
to develop right away if that happens. Can you see something about why Tommy

495
00:31:26.920 --> 00:31:32.000
likes him so much? He seems
a gush about him or you know,

496
00:31:33.240 --> 00:31:37.640
yeah he does, And I think
I think it is just his personality.

497
00:31:37.720 --> 00:31:41.759
You know, it's confidence out there. He doesn't you know, he may

498
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:45.680
be understized, but he doesn't seem
to, you know, it doesn't seem

499
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.279
to affect his confidence like he's not. So you know, we'll see,

500
00:31:48.359 --> 00:31:52.319
of course, if he gets into
pack to all games or some of these

501
00:31:52.319 --> 00:31:56.519
big time games that's got come up
from non conference, how if he gets

502
00:31:56.519 --> 00:32:00.079
out there, how he how he
fares or whatever. But yeah, I

503
00:32:00.119 --> 00:32:01.599
don't I don't know. I think
I think it's more of the spirit of

504
00:32:01.680 --> 00:32:07.400
him. Really. I think Lloyd
saw him at the I believe at the

505
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:12.000
youth seven teams last year in Nalaga, and he had a really good tournament.

506
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:14.920
I think that that kind of clinches
he also play well this year and

507
00:32:14.920 --> 00:32:16.799
they kept in touch and that they
got him, and you know, I

508
00:32:16.799 --> 00:32:21.680
think he I think he uh,
you know, they saw him as a

509
00:32:21.680 --> 00:32:24.000
as a high you know, a
guy who a developmental guy as long as

510
00:32:24.000 --> 00:32:27.720
he's willing to come in and you
know, he might he might take three

511
00:32:27.799 --> 00:32:30.599
years to become a player. But
I think what Lloyd's been telling us is

512
00:32:30.640 --> 00:32:35.559
that he's going to be a guy
fans really like and particulate. So you

513
00:32:35.599 --> 00:32:37.480
know, but again it's not gonna
maybe not the fans aren't going to probably

514
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:42.599
see too much on this year,
but except in the blow up. But

515
00:32:42.759 --> 00:32:45.480
I think, you know, down
the road, you know, maybe he

516
00:32:45.480 --> 00:32:49.119
don't help him and becomes a tricky
guy to kind of match up with.

517
00:32:49.319 --> 00:32:51.519
Okay, Brush when we know you
gotta go. But we had a couple

518
00:32:51.519 --> 00:32:53.960
of minutes. So how has the
trip been. Part of the reasons they

519
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:58.720
sent you was not so much well
basketball, but to find out a personality

520
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:00.640
is about the guys know that you're
there, you going to be the guy.

521
00:33:00.839 --> 00:33:07.119
How has that been? Yeah,
I mean, well it's been great.

522
00:33:07.160 --> 00:33:08.519
I mean, you know how it
is, you guys. You don't

523
00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:13.559
get a whole lot of contact with
him during the season, mostly a couple

524
00:33:13.559 --> 00:33:16.319
of guys at the podium that after
a game, and then occasionally we'll get

525
00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:20.519
him, you know, earlier in
the week. And then it's hard.

526
00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:23.519
It's you know, they're busy and
they have to limit I think some of

527
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:27.519
our access or whatever, and so
this is a little more relaxed. I

528
00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:31.519
think it's interesting. For the most
part, they have two buses pretty much

529
00:33:31.519 --> 00:33:36.319
everywhere they go, one as players
only and managers, et cetera, and

530
00:33:36.319 --> 00:33:39.039
then the others like boosters and coaches. And then there's been a couple of

531
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:44.839
times when I couldn't get a car, like going to Bethelhem that I got

532
00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:47.680
on that bus with the booster bus
or whatever you want to call it.

533
00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:52.240
So that that's been helpful to just
to get to know people around the team

534
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:54.680
a little bit better, just chatting
on the bus, et cetera. And

535
00:33:54.680 --> 00:33:58.839
then you know, and then having
a little conversations with some of the players,

536
00:33:58.880 --> 00:34:02.799
you know as we're in the middle
of the place, but you know,

537
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:07.639
like like you know, today or
tonight as the mosque, I've seen

538
00:34:08.880 --> 00:34:13.400
Umar Ballo, who's a Muslim,
knowing Muslim player on the team, and

539
00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:15.280
how he was effected by it,
and just chatting with him a little bit

540
00:34:15.440 --> 00:34:20.920
as we're writing on we were writing
on a golf cart together as the sun's

541
00:34:20.920 --> 00:34:24.719
going down on the lights are come
and bounce them off to the little pool

542
00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:29.039
there. I mean, it's just
it's just like, yeah, who would

543
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:30.920
ever think that, you know,
that kind of thing could even happen.

544
00:34:31.079 --> 00:34:35.679
So so it's been Yeah, it's
been really good that way, and just

545
00:34:35.719 --> 00:34:38.239
seeing things through. What I'm trying
to do is see see this trip through

546
00:34:38.280 --> 00:34:42.400
their eyes, what they're experiencing,
not so much what I am, although

547
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:45.079
I've certainly got to experience it myself
as well, you know, going along

548
00:34:45.119 --> 00:34:47.760
for some of the tours, listening
to the tour guys just like they listened

549
00:34:47.800 --> 00:34:51.920
to and and you know, and
just getting the field for that and you

550
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:55.280
know, and that's probably been honestly
a little more valuable to me just getting

551
00:34:55.280 --> 00:34:59.320
to know them, not necessarily talking
to them, but just watching them react.

552
00:34:59.519 --> 00:35:02.199
Let's stuff being blocked into who who
loves it, who's interested, and

553
00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:05.920
you know, who wants to just
look at his phone, you know,

554
00:35:06.000 --> 00:35:10.639
stuff like that. Okay, Bruce, Well get some sleep, definitely travels

555
00:35:10.679 --> 00:35:15.599
back, good luck. Yeah,
it's been it's been tough. I mean

556
00:35:15.760 --> 00:35:20.840
it's been fun. But it's like
every day like there's like all this stuff

557
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:23.519
like running around them things, and
then there's a practice or a game and

558
00:35:23.639 --> 00:35:27.679
I'm literally coming back to the hotel
at ten o'clock at night and then I

559
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:30.280
have to start writing like for two, three, four or five hours so

560
00:35:30.920 --> 00:35:34.159
and then get up to the eighth
the next day to go to some other

561
00:35:34.719 --> 00:35:37.320
or whatever. It's it's been.
It's been. It's been a whirl one

562
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:39.400
for sure. All Right. I
think you can rest as for people here

563
00:35:39.400 --> 00:35:43.800
are reading this stuff because they gobble
it up and people. You know,

564
00:35:43.800 --> 00:35:45.679
you're the only one there, so
at least you got that going for you.

565
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:51.559
Yeah, you know, I'm yeah, no, I'm totally lucky to

566
00:35:51.559 --> 00:35:53.039
be here and grateful for it.
And that's that's why we did it.

567
00:35:53.119 --> 00:35:58.280
I mean we if it was just
a few games and nothing else, I

568
00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:00.360
don't think we would have gone.
But I think the combination of getting to

569
00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:06.239
look at this team and and then
getting really some fantastic, you know,

570
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:12.679
interesting stories and experiences to write about, you know, just made a kind

571
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:16.400
of a no brainer I think for
us to do that, considering especially considering

572
00:36:16.440 --> 00:36:22.480
the interest that this team generate,
right you know. Okay, Bruce,

573
00:36:22.880 --> 00:36:25.119
thanks a bunch, appreciate it.
Man, As he said, get some

574
00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:29.679
sleep, all right, guys,
Yeah, thanks for having to Thank you,

575
00:36:29.840 --> 00:36:31.519
Bruce Pascoe from the everyone to day
the start. Thanks for joining us

576
00:36:31.559 --> 00:36:36.960
up. No fun stuff, good
stuffs. Tired, Oh he does having

577
00:36:37.000 --> 00:36:39.079
for him he has, well,
he's been up. He's gonna probably hit

578
00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:43.760
the second any second though. All
right, let's go and take our break.

579
00:36:43.800 --> 00:36:45.079
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Fox Sports fourteen fifty streaming live on
the iHeart Radio Wire. Hey, welcome

633
00:40:44.719 --> 00:40:47.320
back to I in the ball hell
Fox Sports fourteen fifty Steve. He's Jes

634
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:51.159
Jayson with us today. Got twelve
minutes. If you guys want to give

635
00:40:51.199 --> 00:40:54.039
us a quick call, like to
take your calls right now as we usually

636
00:40:54.079 --> 00:41:01.239
do with this hour five two o
four one six seventy four forty interesting you

637
00:41:01.280 --> 00:41:04.880
know perspective from Bruce. First of
all, he's like I said, he

638
00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:07.039
sounds really tired. You know,
he's working some long hours. I mean,

639
00:41:07.079 --> 00:41:10.119
it's you know what two o'clock in
the morning when he was talking to

640
00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:15.119
us. But you know it's hard
to know. But then you know he

641
00:41:15.159 --> 00:41:22.239
went there for the kind of the
connection, right specifically for that. Yeah,

642
00:41:22.280 --> 00:41:23.199
and so you know, you get
to do that. I mean we

643
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:28.599
saw pictures of him at these various
events that that that they went to and

644
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:30.039
stuff like that. You know,
and and you know as a reporter,

645
00:41:30.119 --> 00:41:34.400
you will get you know, when
you they when they all get back here,

646
00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:37.960
those guys remember Bruce Street there for
that, and there'll be some recognition

647
00:41:37.000 --> 00:41:39.679
of that in some respect for that
when they you know, when they deal

648
00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:43.519
with him during the season. So
you know, you do make a lot

649
00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:45.159
of a lot of That's why you
know, Steve, when we when we

650
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:49.719
used to get to travel with the
team, right, they got to know

651
00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:52.719
us. Yea, you know they
saw us all the time. Did you

652
00:41:52.800 --> 00:41:58.719
travel on the plane? Yeah,
football did not. No, I flew

653
00:41:58.760 --> 00:42:01.199
separate on foot for football. For
basketball, we flew. We were on

654
00:42:01.239 --> 00:42:06.079
all the same flights perfectly. Yeah, because they what they would do is

655
00:42:06.360 --> 00:42:08.039
at the beginning at the at the
beginning of the season, they would the

656
00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:14.199
UVA would make all the basketball hotels, flights everything. Then they would just

657
00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:16.719
hand us the sheet from the travel
agent and had everything and we're just ended

658
00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:20.639
our travel agent and they'd put us
on all the same stuff. So,

659
00:42:20.719 --> 00:42:24.079
you know, I'd flying next to
Sean Elliott and Harvey Mason, and you

660
00:42:24.119 --> 00:42:27.880
know, we got to see the
guys on planes, and you know they

661
00:42:28.039 --> 00:42:30.119
you know, Loot and Bobby were
sitting up in in first class and the

662
00:42:30.119 --> 00:42:34.320
guys would be in the back making
fun of that, you know, various

663
00:42:34.320 --> 00:42:37.119
things that were going on because they
were still kids, right, and so

664
00:42:37.679 --> 00:42:40.400
they got to know us. Yeah. No, I was with them a

665
00:42:40.599 --> 00:42:45.440
lot. I didn't travel specifically like
that, but coincidentally, because we went

666
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:47.199
to the same places, I was
on the same plane. Yeah, And

667
00:42:47.360 --> 00:42:50.960
that's how I became friends with Bibby. I mean, that's why he's a

668
00:42:50.960 --> 00:42:53.199
good friend. We coincidently sat next
to each other. We are days,

669
00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:57.679
our birthdays are day apart. Started
talking, which you'd never talked back then.

670
00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:00.239
It was like, holy crap,
Bibby's talking to be and nothing on

671
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:02.559
the record, of course, which
it was good, and there was no

672
00:43:02.719 --> 00:43:06.199
understanding of that. There was an
understanding if you were sitting on a guy

673
00:43:06.239 --> 00:43:07.920
next to a plane, Yeah,
you were just talking. You were just

674
00:43:07.960 --> 00:43:10.719
talking and none of this is for
publications, which kind of it would be

675
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:14.960
now, which helped, which helped? They got your trust, you got

676
00:43:14.920 --> 00:43:16.519
to I mean, like I remember
there was a we had a long I

677
00:43:16.519 --> 00:43:21.320
think we were going to Seattle flying, which is a long flight, and

678
00:43:21.440 --> 00:43:25.159
probably half an hour into the flight, there was a drunk lady in the

679
00:43:25.199 --> 00:43:30.039
middle seat next to Sean Elly okay, and she was hammered and she was

680
00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:34.800
she wouldn't stop talking, and you
selly had and she was yet So as

681
00:43:34.800 --> 00:43:37.039
soon as they as soon as the
seat belt like goes off, Sean gets

682
00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:39.039
up and goes to the bathroom.
And on the way back, he's,

683
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:45.360
I'm sitting right behind him, right
and on there. You trade seats with

684
00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:50.079
me, You're not? Yeah?
And I did, And I went and

685
00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:52.599
sat there and and she said,
well, why do you trade seats?

686
00:43:52.880 --> 00:43:54.800
There's more leg room in this you
know you want you know, you want

687
00:43:54.800 --> 00:43:59.840
a little more lag room. But
in doing that for Sean Elliott, you

688
00:43:59.880 --> 00:44:01.840
know, opened the door for me
to have other conversations with him. When

689
00:44:01.840 --> 00:44:07.320
I was doing Story plus plus the
time of this, you're talking, you're

690
00:44:07.320 --> 00:44:09.800
talking thirty five years ago. Yeah, uh, And I my paper closes

691
00:44:09.800 --> 00:44:15.119
in two thousand and nine. Uh, it's changed unbelievably. Yeah, nobody's

692
00:44:15.119 --> 00:44:19.360
taking pictures and selfies and no,
you know when we have little access to

693
00:44:19.400 --> 00:44:22.079
them, Like he says, Uh, you know, back in the day,

694
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:23.679
we could do a lot of things. Yeah, you know, I

695
00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:29.119
mean, I you know, Uh
sat next to Harvey Mason on a long

696
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:31.519
trip one time, and then another
time I'm sitting I'm sitting on the end

697
00:44:31.599 --> 00:44:35.039
and one of the players I can't
even remember who it was, sitting at

698
00:44:35.039 --> 00:44:37.000
the window. There's nobody in between, and the road next to us is

699
00:44:37.079 --> 00:44:42.000
empty, and I can't remember what
asked me. Can you go sit over

700
00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:45.920
there so I can lay down?
Why not? Right? Those kinds of

701
00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:47.760
things, Right, That's the kind
of connection that I'm sure Bruce is trying

702
00:44:47.760 --> 00:44:52.800
to make, probably a little different
situations. Is it one of those get

703
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:57.039
close to you guys. Anyway,
he just doesn't do that. We wanted

704
00:44:57.039 --> 00:44:59.559
these guys to know that, you
know, we're not the bad guy.

705
00:44:59.599 --> 00:45:01.679
We're not the that guy's perfect way
to put it. We weren't the bad

706
00:45:01.719 --> 00:45:06.599
guy. We were just trying but
your job. But the perception for whoever

707
00:45:07.039 --> 00:45:08.719
that we are the bad guy was
that we were ye oh, of course,

708
00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:12.320
you know, but you know,
and you know you'd sit back there,

709
00:45:12.360 --> 00:45:15.719
you'd say, what the coaches and
the managers and yeah, you know

710
00:45:15.800 --> 00:45:17.840
I was working, let me tell
you, Jay, because I competed against

711
00:45:17.840 --> 00:45:22.639
the you guys to the Daily Star
forever. Uh. And that's where I

712
00:45:22.760 --> 00:45:27.440
had it made because you guys were
writing. I was with them somewhere else,

713
00:45:27.519 --> 00:45:29.880
right, Well, you guys were
writing because I had Saturday off,

714
00:45:30.039 --> 00:45:31.400
you know, to go get my
stuff. And that's where I got a

715
00:45:31.400 --> 00:45:37.000
lot of my stuff, whether it
was Bobby or Loot or somebody passing notes.

716
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:37.800
I said, could you give me
a quote for this? Yeah?

717
00:45:37.920 --> 00:45:40.360
Or you know, I knew I
had to get get it. You know,

718
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:44.440
we would always fly in the day
before a game, right, so

719
00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:47.280
I knew I had to have an
advance on that's you know, the game.

720
00:45:49.039 --> 00:45:52.039
And I knew if I needed to
talk to somebody, I knew they

721
00:45:52.039 --> 00:45:53.760
were going to be on the plane
and I would be able to go get

722
00:45:53.800 --> 00:45:57.519
them and get them for ten minutes
to you know, get a couple of

723
00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:00.679
quotes, whether whether I needed one
the assistant coaches or look or whatever.

724
00:46:00.760 --> 00:46:06.679
And that knowing that you had that
access made your stories, and the assistant

725
00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:10.320
coaches were gems of all. That's
where you got all some style man sometimes

726
00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:15.159
I you know, with with Kevin
O'Neill and and and Ricky Bird's song and

727
00:46:15.159 --> 00:46:19.079
those guys man sometimes that we had
not just you know, and they even

728
00:46:19.280 --> 00:46:22.239
the football coaches. You know,
I always talk about the trip, the

729
00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:24.559
trip to Texas Tech where you know, we went to that We went to

730
00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:28.119
the county line, got a bunch
of beer, brought it back to our

731
00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:30.639
hotel room, filled up the bathtub
with beer, and all the assistant coaches

732
00:46:30.679 --> 00:46:35.159
came over and they gotta beat the
next day pretty bad. They would be

733
00:46:35.239 --> 00:46:37.880
pretty bad. I don't know if
we would playing for that. Maybe we

734
00:46:37.880 --> 00:46:40.400
were, I don't know. They
seemed pretty confident, but you know,

735
00:46:40.440 --> 00:46:44.719
they all came over and hung out
in our room. Uh, because they

736
00:46:44.760 --> 00:46:46.840
knew we had beer because they couldn't
go get beer because they'd had to jump

737
00:46:47.000 --> 00:46:50.119
you know, you know, they
didn't have vehicles to go to go,

738
00:46:50.599 --> 00:46:52.320
and so they knew we were coming
in with beer. So they came in

739
00:46:52.599 --> 00:46:55.320
and they just hung out with us
for a couple hours. And same with

740
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:59.239
Douglas. It was the safety for
Douglas. You shouldn't pull with those guys

741
00:46:59.239 --> 00:47:01.519
at the atas since the stuff.
Yeah, that's you know, and that's

742
00:47:02.159 --> 00:47:05.360
a trip like that, that's what
you're trying to get out, and that's

743
00:47:05.360 --> 00:47:08.679
what clearly trying to get out.
Yeah. Good, that's a long way

744
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:12.480
to go for that though. A
lot of good to go. No sleeping,

745
00:47:12.719 --> 00:47:15.079
you know, expensive. You know
when I go to when I go

746
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:19.239
to foreign countries, man, I'm
always worried about the food. Oh me

747
00:47:19.360 --> 00:47:22.679
too, worried about me too,
me too, you know, especially when

748
00:47:22.679 --> 00:47:24.920
I go down to Mexico. Yeah, I experienced with too. You know.

749
00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:28.719
We my wife and I went on
a sort of a honeymoon trip and

750
00:47:28.719 --> 00:47:31.119
we spent part of it in Germany
and part of it in Austria. Man,

751
00:47:31.159 --> 00:47:35.719
it was that was a tough go
for food. It just they didn't

752
00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:39.440
they didn't have anything that either I
recognized or that I thought I was gonna

753
00:47:39.480 --> 00:47:45.760
like. And then we're in Austria, we're in Innsbruck and we just went

754
00:47:45.840 --> 00:47:49.079
for a walk to tour. The
time would come around the corner there's a

755
00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:52.400
chili. Oh yeah, yeah,
no, of course. Yeah. We

756
00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:54.320
were so excited. We're jumping up
and down for let me tell you not

757
00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:58.440
to make tell these stories about us. But so I was in the Greece

758
00:47:58.519 --> 00:48:01.079
afford the Olympics and we had a
day office. So I'm going out there

759
00:48:01.119 --> 00:48:05.880
with some other reporters. We're just
hanging out and some people are some tours

760
00:48:05.880 --> 00:48:07.400
are lost. Hell, I'm a
tourist too. Excuse me, excuse me,

761
00:48:07.480 --> 00:48:10.199
star, could you point me to
the whatever it wasn't? And this

762
00:48:10.400 --> 00:48:14.679
is I'm having the same problem you
were. I have no idea. Oh

763
00:48:14.719 --> 00:48:19.079
you were Greek, Greek, because
then you don't know I had my darker

764
00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:22.239
beard because you look like one of
them. No, no, no,

765
00:48:22.360 --> 00:48:24.639
no, I'm just as loud as
you are. Well that well that that

766
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:28.760
happens to me down in Mexico too. They think they think I'm a local

767
00:48:29.239 --> 00:48:32.000
and I go down there and they
they're like that, and I have no

768
00:48:32.079 --> 00:48:36.119
idea. Yeah, I have no
idea. I've had that a number of

769
00:48:36.159 --> 00:48:37.639
times. Yeah. No, it's
kind of fun. Yeah, But good

770
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:40.760
for Bruce that, you know.
I'm sure again Bruce is a traveler.

771
00:48:40.800 --> 00:48:45.159
I'm sure that he's experience and stuff. But man, he sounds like he's

772
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:49.320
working hard and it's the hours right
as he as he said, you know,

773
00:48:49.400 --> 00:48:52.159
finish it you know, late and
then you still got it right and

774
00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:54.320
all that kind of stuff. So
yeah, people, people don't talk about

775
00:48:54.360 --> 00:48:58.800
that that part of it. Oh, you have a great job. And

776
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:00.719
I don't want to I don't want
to sound like a buddy Duddy because I

777
00:49:00.719 --> 00:49:04.039
wouldn't do anything else. But you
have a great job. You go to

778
00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:07.079
these games, you need the players. Well that's not the start, does

779
00:49:07.159 --> 00:49:12.440
not even work. The work is
from the buzzer to the press conference,

780
00:49:12.519 --> 00:49:15.639
which takes an hour, and then
you have to write, yeah, what

781
00:49:15.880 --> 00:49:19.159
rhymes with orange on a lead?
You gotta come up with stod stuff.

782
00:49:19.199 --> 00:49:21.800
You gotta come up with stuff that
people are going to read, and that

783
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:23.760
takes another hour and a half.
By that time, you're leaving the arena

784
00:49:23.800 --> 00:49:27.440
by one o'clock. Yeah, listen, don't don't get the idea that we

785
00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:30.920
hated it. Okay, we loved
it. We loved Steve did it for

786
00:49:30.960 --> 00:49:32.719
a lot more years than I did. I loved it, but I also

787
00:49:34.239 --> 00:49:39.960
there came a time when I got
my joy. You go right there,

788
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:44.360
that's the phrase. I got my
feel of it. Uh, I got

789
00:49:44.360 --> 00:49:47.840
my fill after twenty five years.
Yeah, because Steve, I mean I

790
00:49:49.239 --> 00:49:53.679
got the I got the the bug
for that from throwing newspapers, the morning

791
00:49:53.679 --> 00:49:55.440
paper. But I hear you bet, you know, I hear you.

792
00:49:55.480 --> 00:49:58.800
And I read the morning Paper every
day. And the guys that I read,

793
00:49:58.880 --> 00:50:01.760
you know, Bob Moran, Dave
Adam, a guy named Glenn Crevier,

794
00:50:01.800 --> 00:50:06.320
who were all you know when I
was in high school. You know,

795
00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:08.079
I read all those guys. Then
I get a job at the paper

796
00:50:08.079 --> 00:50:12.320
and there's Bob and there's Dave and
there's Glenn and all these guys are there,

797
00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:15.000
and that that was my deal.
I mean, when I thought about

798
00:50:15.039 --> 00:50:16.800
what I wanted to go to college
for, I thought about those guys and

799
00:50:16.800 --> 00:50:20.679
I did that. No, it's
funny because I kind of started throwing the

800
00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:22.639
papers. You saw what how cool
it was to be in the papers,

801
00:50:22.719 --> 00:50:25.000
yeah, to have you you know, I wanted my mug shot on that,

802
00:50:25.079 --> 00:50:28.400
you know, on a column,
you know, and I started having

803
00:50:28.519 --> 00:50:30.559
you know, I had a column, you know, cover from football to

804
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:34.239
be right for football and basketball,
and it's like those things were those things

805
00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:37.239
were cool and that's what I was
shooting for. Gonna make me cry,

806
00:50:37.840 --> 00:50:40.599
Jason man, you're just getting started, you know, I know you're gonna

807
00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:44.480
do great. You're gonna have a
great time. You're gonna be You're gonna

808
00:50:44.519 --> 00:50:47.679
be sixty five years old on the
radio show. Remember talking about this stuff.

809
00:50:50.239 --> 00:50:54.119
A bunch of old man. Take
it all in, make some memories,

810
00:50:54.639 --> 00:51:00.760
work hard, who till kids?
Uh? Three five days? You

811
00:51:00.800 --> 00:51:05.199
don't like the show? We do
five shows a week, but two hundred

812
00:51:05.199 --> 00:51:08.000
fifty shows. So right, we
might have some duds ten times out of

813
00:51:08.039 --> 00:51:10.880
two hundred and fifty, but the
other ones are pretty good. All fun.

814
00:51:12.000 --> 00:51:14.400
Yeah, they're all fun. They're
all fun. And how bad days?

815
00:51:15.320 --> 00:51:16.760
And then if you ever stop having
fun with it, get the hell

816
00:51:16.760 --> 00:51:20.800
out and go do something else.
Yeah, seriously, you know, I

817
00:51:20.800 --> 00:51:22.599
mean I was still having fun,
but I still got the hell out and

818
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:25.280
went to do something else. Because
make money? Yeah, because I want,

819
00:51:25.320 --> 00:51:29.320
well, I want I wanted to
make money, but two I wanted

820
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:31.760
to have I wanted to have more
fun as a fan doing, you know,

821
00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:37.480
which was important to me. So
yeah, but you're you know you're

822
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:40.440
at You're at the start of it. Man, it's blast now again.

823
00:51:42.400 --> 00:51:46.800
It's it's way different for you than
it was for us. All right.

824
00:51:47.159 --> 00:51:50.960
You can almost say in some sense
for us it was easier because of the

825
00:51:51.000 --> 00:51:54.639
access that we had but that made
it harder because we had more to write,

826
00:51:54.119 --> 00:51:59.079
right, and it was and deadlines
were tough. But no, every

827
00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:04.480
days, every well it's a deadline. Yeah man, Yeah, I don't

828
00:52:04.480 --> 00:52:06.920
know that. I know I couldn't
do that. Well, we were trying

829
00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:09.079
to Cico. We gotta go here. But it's the carrying of the luggage,

830
00:52:09.119 --> 00:52:13.480
carrying on the cameras. The Pete
Deuborhos still have to do that.

831
00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:17.039
These are changing times, very changing
times. All right, Wow, another

832
00:52:17.079 --> 00:52:21.280
trip down memory lane. Let's take
a break. We're gonna come back breaking

833
00:52:21.400 --> 00:52:23.280
news and then we're gonna have Dustin
Peace, the head coach at CDOs.

834
00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:24.000
Let's stick around.