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And we have with us joining us
on the couch. Nolan Coda is here?

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Am I saying your last name correctly
as a Coda? That's it?

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Yep? Yes, from Ion's Encoded
and uh and the other band Pointless Culture

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Culture. Yes, yes, but
wonderful to have you here. Uh,

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thank you. I was saying to
you off air that I said to Jenny

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recently. You know, I've been
playing this guy's music for like two years

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on the show. We should probably
have him one Yeah, thanks for having

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men and uh yeah, I always
get I always get a lot of positive

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feedback on that song, Reconnection.
That's so cool. It's it's it's kind

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of epic and uh yeah, it's
just great. It's one of those songs

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you get stuck in my head,
especially that ending. You know, it's

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a very dramatic and that's quite heavy. Yeah, yeah, that's that was

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my goal. Anyway, I like
it a lot. And you're getting some

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love in the chat room too.
Uh. Marissa Coda, who I think

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you said as your sisters my sister, Hello, yep, she says,

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yay. Nolan, very nice.
Uh. Riley King says hi, Nolan,

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Hey, Reley, Well, let
me ask you this first off,

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So where did where did you come
up with the name? What does the

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name mean? So it used to
be Ayons apart and uh, it was

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kind of just like some kind of
word play. I was just trying to

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go for just what sounded cool,
and over time I was like, well,

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I kind of want to incorporate my
name, so and coda. So

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I was like, all right,
let's kind of go off that and coded

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was born. So it was kind
of like a little subtle play there,

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and I think it sounded a little
more not original, but more to my

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liking, I guess. But yeah, it was just kind of like me

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just messing around with some words and
seeing where they seeing where they landed.

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Yeah, but it kind of stuck, like and people seem to like it

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and behold Ayons was born? Yeah, and uh and that it's all you

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right, you play everything? Wow? Wow? How do you? I

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mean, it's it's unique. How
how do you describe it to people who

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haven't heard it? Because it's not
like anything. I mean, I can

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hear influences, but it's especially I
think the vocals are part of what gives

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it it's uniqueness. Your approach with
the vocals is different. I can't think

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of anybody who quite does it like
that, But how do you describe it

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to people who haven't heard it yet? It can be kind of broad.

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So I have a lot of influence
from like Pink Floyd Rush and then to

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modern bands like Tool. You know, all the progressive rock slash metal bands

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have been kind of my go to
for you know, how I go about

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writing my stuff. Yeah, so
I kind of just not like draw ideas

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from them, but kind of like
take inspiration from what they from what they've

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done, and I just kind of
make it my own, you know,

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just kind of like putting my own
twist on some things. And a lot

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of it boils down to experimentation.
So you know, if you're into like

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progressive rock and you like a lot
of synthesizer stuff and like very spacey,

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atmospheric type soundscapes and all that,
you know, this this is the type

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of stuff you'd be into. So
you know, it's very niche, I

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feel, but it's fun. It's
a fun genre, and you know,

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I try to keep it interesting in
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heavier, but maybe one song a
little more experimental and you know, more

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keyboard heavy, So just you know, not to have an identity crisis,

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but like, you know, keep
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I as much as I possibly can. So yeah, so yeah, I

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would say like progressive rock mixed with
some spacey sounds is probably the best way

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to describe it. Yeah. Yeah. Now, so you play everything you

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do all the vocals, do you
are those real drums? You also play

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drums or program I do play drums, but being in an apartment, that's

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a little tough, so I program
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which are like software drums. Yeah, and I take, you know,

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not like well, they're real samples
of drums, but not my own.

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Yeah, but they're included in the
software. So I take, you know,

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what sound I want from each drum, you know, and symbol and

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not, and then I mapped them
on like a meaty chart. And you

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can also play it on a keyboard
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Yeah, but sometimes I'm not always
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do just keyboard and sink them,
and then other times I'll map out each

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individual drum, which takes a lot
of time, but it can be It

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can open up my creative you know, doors a little bit more because I

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can get really fast or really complex
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like you know, gotta remember not
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I would say. Yeah, drums
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one of the time consuming instruments that
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comes to my music, just because
of it. It's it's programmed kind of

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very incrementally. Aaron Billado, who
I don't know if you know, Aaron,

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very very talented musician, he says
in the chat room. I checked

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it out before the show. Outstanding
new fan here. Thank you very much.

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Yeah, that's awesome, you know
Aaron. I don't, but I'm

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gonna check him out. Yeah,
yeah, he does. It does very

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sort of experimentals. That's really cool. Yeah yeah, absolutely, thank you.

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With with the drums, so when
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you're doing all that, do you
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that makes it seem that makes it
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So the flexibility of I'll just say
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track. Okay, That's what I've
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out drums, and they allow you
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I've heard of this. Yeah.
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certain settings. You can set velocity, which is kind of like how hard

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or how soft a drum sounds,
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very variable like setting that I use, and I try to use it sparingly

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enough where it sounds like someone's actually
drumming it. Yeah. So that alone

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is also time consuming because I don't
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super like processed right right, right, But you know, I'm not

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gonna lie and say that they're real
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you want it to kind of sound
authentic, and that's what I'm trying

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to go for us, being as
authentic as I can with what tools they

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have at my disposal. Yeah,
that makes sense. Yeah, it's amazing

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what you can do now with the
technology. I had another gentleman who he's

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got a band called Downhill Rollers but
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thing, really really good. But
he but it's all him. He does

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it all himself, and he programs
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him, like those sound completely real, you know, like, like I

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would never have guessed, So it's
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They've they've improved their like interface and
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mean, I'm not out all that
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that, but like you can tell
that there's so much love put into these

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programs. Yeah, where like you
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wanted to, right and go that
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much you can do these days from
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yeah, and some and some like
d I instruments. Yeah, yeah,

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what what's your what's your first instrument? Obviously you play multiple instruments. What

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did you start out on? Actually
I started on piano Oka, but I

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uh, you know that that was
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you know, my grandparents had a
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eighties that I would kind of mess
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what got me into guitar later on, is you know, and that's like

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my main instrument now aside from bass. Yeah. So like but keyboard has

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been the best way for me to
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today, or at least have me
start out on music, and it's very

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versatile and it was a lot of
fun to learn on and then just kind

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of, you know, went from
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keyboards and you know, guitar and
all that and kind of expanded from

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there. I've heard a lot of
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least learn some basic keyboard skills that
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I ever thought. I'm a bass
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bit of guitar. I never I
never learned. I've never learned anything on

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keyboard and I probably never will.
But but but I have heard a lot

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of music teachers say that that's really
the best foundation you could ask for,

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is if you start out on keyboard, or if you already play something else,

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if you go back and just try
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basic stuff scales and whatnot, and
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the C major scale. That's how
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just kind of experiment from there or
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as your foundation and then kind of
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scale and like learning all the other
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it's a great starting point. I
remember those old casios. Was it a

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was it a little one or was
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me because I started young, right, So like I swear it was like,

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you know, like a full sized
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went over to play it, like
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or something like that, I swear
it shrunk, yeah, because I don't

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know, or five years old or
something like that. But yeah, it's

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it's a out like it's a it's
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or something like that board. It's
it's it's fairly small keys. Yeah,

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something you'd probably find on like a
MIDI controller right right, you know,

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or something like that. So like
it was comfortable, yes, you know,

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even when I was getting older and
you know, my hands were getting

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a little bit bigger and all that, it was still fun to play.

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And I still have one, right, you know, not the same condition

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as it was back then, but
it's in my apartment right now, sitting

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in the corner, so yeah,
still there. I think I have one

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in a in a storage in it
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to play it, I did have
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but it's a little one if I'm
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I think it took like I think
it took D batteries. Yep, that's

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what mine took, really, yes
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yeah, that's a power sucker.
Exactly. Has your process changed over the

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years with with the Ian's encoded a
little bit? You know, I try

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to do all the production myself,
so it was kind of like me learning

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how to do it all my own, which was very tedious to say the

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least. But you know, if
you listen to my very first like demo

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track, Exordium, like that was
just kind of me throwing some tracks together

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see how things worked, yeah,
and then kind of like showcasing the sound

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I was going for in a way, so I kind of like keeping that

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synthy stuff and then getting heavier.
So, you know, I think overall,

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like my process has kind of stayed
the same in terms of how I

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compose, but when it comes to
the production of it, I've gotten a

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lot more what's the word critical of
it, because you know, my ears.

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You know, when you do like
music on your own, it takes

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a lot out of you, especially
you know in your ears. Yeah,

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the ear fatigue is I think what
they call it, and it's it's a

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lot. But you know, I
try to keep it streamlined, and the

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easier it gets easier the more I
do it, because like I kind of

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find what works and what doesn't work. And that's the fun of the experimentation

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that I that I get to,
you know, go through and uh yeah,

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I think I've improved just in terms
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how I go about writing and putting
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of stayed the same. Is a
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of experimentation. Do do you have
some songs where you've kind of where you

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kind of write it all out and
then you go to record it or do

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you ever or is it mostly just
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so, yeah, that's a good
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like actually written out completely. One
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reconnections on the Cosmic Archives. That
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software called guitar Pro, and I
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that. I programmed the drums through
that, like but through like sheet music,

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so it was even more tedious.
Yeah yeah, but it helped me

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like kind of established the basis of
what I wanted to go for and I

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was able to change there without having
to worry about recording anything. And I

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didn't know about like scratch at the
time, where you can like record stuff

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like kind of on like a piece
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of thing. And you know,
just that's how I kind of did all

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that because like when it comes to
recording, you always picture it kind of

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being like you gotta do this in
one take. It's not the case for

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me, like I've been able to
like do it all kind of in sections.

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You can do it comfortably and I
can adjust things if I need to.

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But the more experimental songs, like
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which was oh my god, it's
almost two years old now, that's just

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crazy. So Theoretical and Beyond the
Mirror are two of the instrumental songs on

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that that I kind of just you
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up with like a way to bridge
into the next songs. Yeah, afterwards,

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which were also mapped out, you
know, in software and written out.

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of those just like tiny musical ideas

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that I kind of like what sounds
I'm kind of like what sounds good,

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and well, this work will not
work and that's super fun for me.

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listen to. Do you do you
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you end up throwing away that you
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then you go to do it,
you go to record it, and you're

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like, ah, this isn't working. Oh hundreds really yeah, yeah,

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I'm like the guy throwing out those
little crumples of paper in the trash.

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Been all the time. But you
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that you can erase things and rework
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worry about throwing stuff away for real. Right, So if I don't end

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up liking an idea, I can
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and or add stuff to it what
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I kind of like to make things
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I like to craft my ideas but
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there are some ideas and each of
my songs that are probably actually not probably,

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they are borrowed from previous ideas.
So hidden Away Verse Riff is actually

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a song that I wrote back in
like twenty twelve that I didn't really have

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any way to record, so I
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cool, let's put that in.
So but there's still a fair share of

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like different ideas that just would not
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or probably would not fit my sound
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of being a composer. I guess
you have those ideas that go to waste,

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and you have those ideas that stick
and you want to reuse. Jay

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fad in the chat room and he
yes everybody this question. He says,

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Uh, have you ever considered increasing
the length of your beard? I want

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to? Yeah, yeah, I'd
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somewhat neat, but you know it, I don't have the best luck with

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my beard sometimes, so really doesn't
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scraggly, so I got a tame
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to do that fairly soon. But
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a little more, say with my
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Yeah. Now, so have you
ever I'm assuming not, But have you

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ever played any of this live in
front of people or No? No,

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I maybe one day I will,
but you know, because it's all solo

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stuff, a lot of it,
you know, I'd have to like have

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a band for hire and you know, and have the time to assemble all

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that and actually practice them again.
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know, thought about potentially doing something
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you know, it got to that
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it'd be difficult to assemble right now
because there's so many moving parts and there's

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you probably need about six keyboard.
It's probably I love to layer things.

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up in the air. I mean, the other option would be to you

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know, just just play in front
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also a possibility too. That's something
I've kind of toyed with here and there.

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Yeah, it's just a matter of
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yeah, either way, it would
be a lot of work, no doubt.

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Yeah. Uh Frasier Ramsey and the
chat room says hey from Edinburgh,

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Scotland. Well, hello, hello, very nice. Well let's do this.

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Let's let's play another track I'd like
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pick though, what what what would
you uh? What would you like us

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to play? Uh? I don't
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back on Saint Patty's Day. Okay, cool, Yeah, that's a fun

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This is the newest one. Very
good. All right, let's let's give

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this a listen and then we'll come
back and chat some more. If you're

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just joining us, we have Nolan
Coda here and we're are we are featuring

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and talking about his music from eons
and Coded. This is his solo project.

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And check this out. This is
the newest one. This is Fragmented.

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Do you sid and rather than around
again, round the fire, that's

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a body you burn, the friend
said, un Lo the thingside another time,

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let's be already shaking. I feel
on the only one sody gets you

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less and the mess I red cracking
the code that's my comfort and starts the

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field. Recently, go go investor, investor. Then they beat up my

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red failing to catch my brother again
for somewhere else. We can't ask me

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as you can't deep in the water. I'm baking on the bed, nothing

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to see, just me away,
staying away, scared the voice shot in

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my room, chilly out and you
just hard cha pick up the pieces all

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over a cover again. Sometimes I
feel like a pullet the brood like chess.

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The get that that be makes a
harder and heart of the house.

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Get me some time trying to feel
the shark that my reason to stay speaking

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and ships under a round again around
the forest. Has the fund you had

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a friend. She fights on the
frankness of memories like what yoursel skates like

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crystallize instantly show for so cannot as
you say, burns into the water.

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I wake besten, just bewas made
your house scares you, strike you,

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I will swear to of the pieces
all over again. I love it that

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is fragmented from eons and coded.
And we have the man behind eons and

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coded here on the couch with us
in studio. Nolan Coda is here.

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That's that's so good. We've got
uh let's see Mike from Queen City Cabinetry

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in the chat room says really good. Aaron Bilido says, Wow, this

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is a great song too. Jay
Fed says I'm digging this. Jenny says

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loving this and uh, DNA coda
a relation there, mother, that's your

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mother? Yep, very nice.
Yep, she says love fragmented top track

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choice for me and Isaac Banks also
said a great song. Yeah, that

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is really good. And you know, we were kind of talking off air

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while I was playing kind of a
little bit of an eighties vibe there with

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the keyboard riff, which is really
catchy. Yeah. I wanted to like

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replicate kind of a d X seven
types sound like a Yamaha electric piano.

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Yeah, and kind of like put
some modern twist on that, add some

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reverb to it and call it a
day. Yeah. Yeah, give a

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little different spin on that. Yeah. Melanie also has a non musical question

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because she's watching online. What evil
beings does Beard Man have on his shirt?

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Oh? It's it's the scream uh
y, yes, yes, I

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got it. A hot topic,
I think, Oh, yeah, I'm

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getting ready for spooky season. Yes, Oh so is Melanie? Well,

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I think for Melanie it's already here. So some people just you know,

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Halloween is their giant giant. Yes, yes, already arrived for her.

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Yeah, some people start uh Halloween
really early. Nolan Coda from ianson Coded

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and from Pointless Culture. Uh,
Nolan too. We were talking off here

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about your other band, Pointless Culture, and one of the guys in the

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band is also in radio. You
were saying, yeah, yeah, Harrison

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Himan is our drummer and he's a
very talented individual. I want to give

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him a quick shout out. He's
an awesome dude. Helps us a lot

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with our booking and yeah, uh
you know, getting stuff out there,

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kind of managing our social media stuff
as well. He does a lot for

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the band, so I want to
give him a little bit of love.

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And he's on w j y y
up and Conquered right, Yeah, one

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off five j y y yep yeah
station. I know. I used to

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live in Conquered, so I know
that's been really well, yeah, because

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he been there a long time or
yeah, we actually used to live together

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up until this last month. Yeah. We're very close, very close friends,

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cool, and so it's awesome that
we get to do well, everything

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we get to do together, you
know, with the band and all that,

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so yeah, super fun, excellent, excellent. Now with Pointless Culture,

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you guys are you're currently recording right
you're recording on an album. Yeah,

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we're recording an EP and then an
album hopefully fairly soon after that.

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So we have like a four track
we're working on right now, and yesterday

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we just finished up two of those
and then we gotta record one more and

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then we're pretty much on part of
release it probably the next month or two.

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So that's really exciting. It's it's
more of like an indie punk type

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mix. Okay, so it's a
lot different than what I write, but

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it's like in my wheelhouse still and
it's so much fun. Yeah, our

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lead guy, who's also named Harrison, is a fantastic songwriter. A lot

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of the songs are all of his, pretty much all of them actually,

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and I want to give him some
love too, and Ben in the band

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fantastic musicians, very fun to work
with. So yeah, we're we're on

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part or release that pretty soon.
It's gonna be just a little four track

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and kind of like going over each
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of like what we are as a
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So we're looking forward to that.
What do you do in that?

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In that band? I'm the bass
player. Okay, that's what I figured

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because in the picture on Facebook,
you're yep, he's got a bass.

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Yeah, and there's two guys named
Harrison in the band. There is,

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yeah, very rare occurrence. Yeah
yeah, I mean Harrison is not a

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super unusual name, but it's not
super common either, so yeah, that's

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funny, like in between, right, yeah, and they both go by

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Harrison, like neither of them's Harry
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just number them in my phone,
so they're kind of an order on how

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I met them. So H one
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and who I used to live with, and H two is our frontman and

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you know, kind of the lead
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them. But it's like a huge
family in that band. We got a

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whole like crew. It's it's a
lot of fun. We just played in

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Warner at the Summer Jam this past
Saturday, a lot of fun. Played

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to play a couple of new songs
that we had, you know, in

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the works, and they went super
well. So you know, this is

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this is really fun to have,
like as a you know kind of like

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a working original band before, and
while guitar has always been like my main

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instrument, I have found so much
fun and enjoy playing bass. It's kind

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of like opened up that passion right
back up again that you know may have

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like kind of dwindled over time because
music is kind of like taxing at times.

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Sure, but like just playing a
new instrument primarily like that is a

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huge like just breath or fresh air. Well, I was gonna say too,

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it must be a relief in a
way. I mean, obviously you

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have a lot of passion for Jan's
encoded, but at the same time,

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not having to do everything yourself must
be nice. Yes, yeah, huge

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relief. But you know, we
all get to you know, pull our

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way. We get to put on
our input that we you know, when

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it comes to like writing O our
songs and like how they want to go,

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you know, our our direction,
and you know, it's it's nice

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to have that brotherhood with each other. We're like very tight knit, and

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you know, we always come to
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to how we want to go about
saying like recording the song or writing this

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song, or what we play live, et cetera. So it's a fun

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time and just couldn't ask for a
better group of people. Now, the

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the EP that you're recording, now, will that be the first thing that

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you've released as a band. No. Last October, I think October six

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we released some homebrew recordings called the
Sampler, which was three of our songs

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that we started, you know,
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Off in Little House. So those
we recorded actually in our drummer, Harrison's

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work, and we kind of just
set everything up through a mixer and just

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kind of like you know, just
just got something out there and it turned

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out it came out pretty good,
I would say, you know, for

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for being kind of done on our
own and fairly quickly. Yeah. But

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our first recorded like professional song like
through Cedar House Sound in Sutton. Jerry

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Pott incredible guy to work with,
very very fun guy to talk to as

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well. We recorded Severed Ties in
a studio back in November, released it

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in December, and that was like
our first, like I guess, breakthrough

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song and kind of bringing us out
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and we're working with him again for
this EP, and it's just been an

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overall fantastic experience. Okay, it
gets better and better. Good goody has

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the How long has Pointless Culture been
around? Because I feel like I've heard

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the name even before Jenny mentioned that
she had booked you for the show,

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I feel like I've heard of the
band. So it's the four of us

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have been a band with four members
since about March, but we were a

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three piece with I was with the
other two Harrisons for about a year.

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Oh okay, and then the other
two Harrisons who went by h Squared or

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Harrison Squared back then, they were
like, you know, jamming out.

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They've reconnected with each other, and
you know, I was like, hey,

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I want I want to play bass, you know, but they asked

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me as well, and I was
like, yeah, let's do it.

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So we just kind of like formed
it, you know, one by one

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in a way, so as a
full three and four piece band. Depending

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on how you look at it,
I guess like we really got our start

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a year ago and Ben our second
second guitarists back in February March time frame.

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I did that. That's a cool
name. Two pointless called sure,

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what's what's the origin of that name? So the both Harrison's were trying to

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come up with a name, and
if I correct me, if I'm wrong,

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guys, if you're listening, I
think they were gonna go with divorce

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Culture and then pointless something. But
then they like kind of mended that,

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mended them together. Some Pointless Culture
was born. Yeah, I kind of

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fuzzy details, yeah, but you
know, they were kind of going the

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same row I did and kind of
like seeing, you know what sounded pretty

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good. You know, we're generators
are great when it comes to that,

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and you got to try to find
something that's not taken or right, you

410
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:37,759
know, is open to be used
with. So I think it kind of

411
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,519
started the same way that my name
did, but they kind of blended towards

412
00:31:41,599 --> 00:31:45,720
together from other names, and so
you know, Pointless Culture was born.

413
00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:49,240
And I love the name too.
It's fantastic. Oh yeah. Yeah.

414
00:31:49,359 --> 00:31:53,079
Trying to find something that's not already
taken that can be uh, that can

415
00:31:53,119 --> 00:31:57,599
be one of the hardest things.
I mean, it's a lot easier than

416
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,720
it used to be because now you
know, you can google it, you

417
00:32:00,759 --> 00:32:02,559
can look it up. But I
remember a time. I've told this story

418
00:32:02,599 --> 00:32:05,759
on the show before, but I
had a friend I went to high school

419
00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:08,920
with, and I remember running into
him a couple of years after high school,

420
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,160
and he was a musician too,
and he told me about this new

421
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,720
band he was in, this uh
rock band, and I said, what's

422
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,720
the name? And he said Intuition
And he said that to me, and

423
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,880
immediately I'm thinking, oh god,
there's probably so many bands that have already

424
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,519
used that name. And then,
swear to god, I ran into him

425
00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:32,200
again a few months later and the
same place, and I said, how's

426
00:32:32,279 --> 00:32:35,519
the band, And he said,
good, except we had to change our

427
00:32:35,599 --> 00:32:37,519
name because we heard from another band
already using that name. And I'm too

428
00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:40,079
polite to say anything, but in
my mind, I'm thinking, yeah,

429
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:45,440
of course, of course you had
to change it. Intuition, like the

430
00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:46,920
most obvious, you know what I
mean, Like, of course, it's

431
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:52,119
probably a million different bands that have
used that name, So yeah, that

432
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:53,599
can be. That can be a
big part of the challenge is is finding

433
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,559
something where you're not going to run
into a problem later exactly. Yeah,

434
00:32:57,559 --> 00:33:00,240
the more words the better, and
the less common the word the bet or

435
00:33:00,279 --> 00:33:02,720
two, it's it's very competitive out
there, not just with music but with

436
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:07,839
naming your music and all that.
But you know, I'm glad we're able

437
00:33:07,839 --> 00:33:10,119
to both find something both you know, the band and myself, something that

438
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:15,519
we could both use and call our
own. Yeah, that's really really fortunate

439
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,480
to be able to say that we
can do that. Now, did you

440
00:33:17,519 --> 00:33:22,920
guys play out a lot with that
project? Yeah? We played at the

441
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:27,279
Bang and Answer Stage last August this
past August, and that was our probably

442
00:33:27,319 --> 00:33:30,559
our biggest show yet. But we
haven't played a ton. We've played maybe

443
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:34,720
six or so. We have one
coming up in Acworth on the twenty third,

444
00:33:35,559 --> 00:33:39,839
and our first one was at Tandy's
Pub in downtown Conqueror and that was

445
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,400
the night before It was kind of
like a little release party for Sabatias because

446
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:45,599
it was coming out that midnight,
you know, of the of the next

447
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:47,880
day. Yea. So we were
like, let's, you know, let's

448
00:33:49,119 --> 00:33:51,839
do a cool little show there.
And we got some help from a friend

449
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,319
of ours, Kurt Felder, who
runs like, you know, kind of

450
00:33:54,359 --> 00:33:59,880
like music journal journaling, like YouTube
videos and very talented guy. Yeah,

451
00:34:00,599 --> 00:34:04,200
really cool guy too, and he
helped us get that gig. Okay,

452
00:34:04,319 --> 00:34:06,960
So and then you know, we
had kind of like a little drought in

453
00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:08,760
between. We added Ben, we
were kind of learning some new songs.

454
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:13,679
Then it wasn't until maybe this past
you know, summer, where we started

455
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,480
to really get some more shows booked. But it can be tough to get

456
00:34:15,519 --> 00:34:22,199
them booked now. Yeah, I
mean summer is usually probably the busiest time,

457
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,519
oh yeah, for you guys as
far as shows, right. I

458
00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:28,760
mean, I know a lot of
bands will you know, kind of use

459
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,599
winter to sort of record and then
you know, and then you know,

460
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:36,880
spring, summer, early fall to
play out. But it seems to be

461
00:34:37,039 --> 00:34:38,880
the the easiest one. I mean, you know, I don't play anymore,

462
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,639
but when I was in bands,
I was always to me, that

463
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,320
was always the best way to do
it, because you know, in the

464
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:49,719
winter it's just miserable to Yeah,
I've played shows before when I was lugging

465
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,679
equipment in the winter up upstairs outside
and slipping almost dropping stuff and it's miserable.

466
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,079
Yeah. But yeah, we're kind
of going that same route. You

467
00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:00,920
know, we're just trying to take
and maybe the winner maybe a few shows

468
00:35:01,039 --> 00:35:04,719
here and there, but like kind
of taking that time to really focus on

469
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,920
recording more stuff. Yeah, because
we have so many things that we want

470
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,400
to add to you know, the
music world out there, so you know,

471
00:35:10,679 --> 00:35:14,320
it's it's kind of like the opportune
time to do all that. Yeah,

472
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,239
we're really trying to book for next
year. Yeah, excellent, Spring

473
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:21,199
summer excellent, excellent. Well why
don't we play another? Why don't we

474
00:35:21,199 --> 00:35:24,159
play another eons encoded song? I
yeah, I definitely want to get one

475
00:35:24,199 --> 00:35:28,239
more in before we run out of
time. But I'll let I'll let you

476
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,440
choose one again. What suck.
Let's go back to the first album,

477
00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:38,400
inspect Element. Let's do let's do
heading Away, Hidden Away. Yeah,

478
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,280
I think I've listened to that one. That's the one I wanted to go

479
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:45,239
for a deftnestyle style vocal. Oh
okay, well I'm very okay, I

480
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,119
don't I don't think I did listen
to this one. Then all right,

481
00:35:47,159 --> 00:35:51,599
well I'm very curious now, all
right, cool, So let's give this

482
00:35:51,679 --> 00:35:55,280
a listen. This is this is
hidden Away. The artist is eons encoded,

483
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,480
and that is eons encoded on the
couch. That is Nolan Coda,

484
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:02,559
the and behind NS and coated.
Let's check this out. This is called

485
00:36:02,719 --> 00:41:00,159
hidden Away. Yer pick the three
worm me more tree. You got those

486
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,920
dramatic endings. I love it.
That is. Uh, that one's called

487
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,840
Hidden Away and that is Eons Encoded
And Nolan Coda from Eons Encoded is here

488
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:12,920
with us. He is on the
couch and we do have another family member.

489
00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:16,079
I believe Belinda Brooks Coda is in
the Facebook live chat. Hey Graham,

490
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,239
very nice, very nice. It's
quil that they that they're supportive and

491
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,159
that uh you know, they come
out to listen. I love it.

492
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:29,239
I love it. That is that
is outstanding. Now what obviously, so

493
00:41:29,519 --> 00:41:31,800
you're you're pretty busy, it sounds
like with pointless culture. But do you

494
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:36,000
have more eons and coded music coming
as well? Or I have a I

495
00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:38,920
have a couple of songs that I'm
kind of slowly chipping away at. Uh.

496
00:41:39,199 --> 00:41:45,760
One of them is an older track
I had back in like twenty fourteen

497
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:50,599
called Vanishing Point, and I don't
know when that'll be done, but it's

498
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,039
it's got about a minute or so
so far, just uh gotta you know,

499
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,880
just you know, get at it
and when I can. Yeah,

500
00:41:58,559 --> 00:42:00,719
it's so high. Yeah, with
with how much I'm doing and how many

501
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,119
you know, different products, I'm
a part of it. You know,

502
00:42:04,159 --> 00:42:07,800
it's hard to find that time,
uh to really sit down and focus on

503
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:13,199
that stuff. But it's it's gonna
come. It's gonna come, and there's

504
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,639
yeah, I'm never gonna stop doing
AONs. It's just I don't know when

505
00:42:16,519 --> 00:42:21,880
you know I'm gonna be able to
like pick it up again comfortably and stay

506
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,480
with it. And you know,
burning out, burning yourself out's just you

507
00:42:25,559 --> 00:42:30,679
know, not the move right right, So, but it's gonna come.

508
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:35,480
It's gonna come. My Facebook and
Instagram, are you know the best way

509
00:42:35,559 --> 00:42:37,920
to keep in you know, contact
with me or see what I'm up to

510
00:42:38,119 --> 00:42:42,880
for especially AONs because I have just
made an account for that not long ago,

511
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,119
just to keep it separate from my
own my own stuff. But all

512
00:42:46,159 --> 00:42:50,000
those updates will be on there,
uh you know when I get to it.

513
00:42:50,199 --> 00:42:52,360
But I got a couple of things, yeah, I'm working on.

514
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:58,159
And for people looking for eons encoded
online too, we should just clarify for

515
00:42:58,199 --> 00:43:01,960
anyone who doesn't know EON's is spelled
A E O N S. People might

516
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:06,159
be looking for it without the A
and unable to find it. But I

517
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,039
wanted to go with the European spelling
it look cooler. Yeah, yeah,

518
00:43:08,559 --> 00:43:10,719
I don't know if I've ever seen
it spelled the other way? Can you?

519
00:43:12,559 --> 00:43:15,360
Is it sometimes spelled without the A? Yeah, I discovered the e

520
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:20,440
o NS is kind of the more
western US way of spelling it, but

521
00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:22,760
like with the added A is kind
of European. It just looked cooler to

522
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,719
me. Oh yeah, yeah,
no, it is cool. I think

523
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:29,159
it's pronounced the same. You can
say AONs it's all, it all means

524
00:43:29,199 --> 00:43:31,320
the same thing. Yeah, yeah, see, I have seen it spelled

525
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:35,440
without the A, but I just
assumed it. Who people who are spelling

526
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,119
it without the A, we're spelling
it wrong. But but but maybe that

527
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:42,880
is maybe that is acceptable. English
is weird, Yeah yeah, or sometimes

528
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:46,280
things are wrong, but over time
they become accepted because exactly spelled wrong or

529
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:51,320
spoken wrong so often. Yeah,
I just thought it looked pretty cool.

530
00:43:51,519 --> 00:43:53,199
Yeah, yeah, no, it
does. It definitely does. It definitely

531
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:57,400
does. Well. I'm really glad
you joined us today and we'll we'll actually

532
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,320
close out the show with one more
track in a moment. But this has

533
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,960
been wonderful and thank you very much. Absolutely like well, you know,

534
00:44:04,079 --> 00:44:06,719
like I said, we've been playing
your music for long enough, might as

535
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,800
well, have you on. Yeah, very very humble and you know,

536
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,719
happy to be here. Yeah,
thanks again, absolutely, thank you for

537
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:16,679
coming in and and I look forward
to to getting Pointless Culture, to getting

538
00:44:16,679 --> 00:44:20,079
you guys in here as well.
Oh my god. Yeah, that'll be

539
00:44:20,199 --> 00:44:22,480
We're we're super excited. That'll be
cool. That'll be cool. If you

540
00:44:22,519 --> 00:44:27,880
want to pick one more, Nolan, we'll we'll play one more to play

541
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,639
us out. Let's do Mobius.
That's the one that somehow has the most

542
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:35,960
plays. And it's anything crazy.
It's just kind of a fun little jam.

543
00:44:36,159 --> 00:44:37,519
Oh interesting, which which one is
that on? Is that on?

544
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,960
That's on inspect Elements? Kind of
like my closer. Yeah, it's a

545
00:44:43,039 --> 00:44:45,000
fun little tune. Okay, yeah, we'll go with that, all right.

546
00:44:45,159 --> 00:44:47,760
Very cool. All right. So
this is uh, this is Mobius

547
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:53,320
from the releases Inspect Element from Ions
Encoded and Nolan, thank you again,

548
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,280
my friend, thank you very much
for having me. Absolutely and here it

549
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:58,599
is. This is Mobius.
