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It's time for Inside the Numbers.
Now inside the number is with Ryan Michael,

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right, how you doing this evening? Doing well? Then? Nick?

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How are you guys doing pretty well? We gave you a little assignment,

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a dynasty assignment, if you will, not the New England Patriots,

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but a football bloodlines sort of assignment, as we have quite a few of

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those here in Denver, whether that's
McCaffrey's, the Mannings, the Sute,

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now the Ellises, ELS's Elis's ls
I. How do we I don't know

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how we pluralize that, but we
have a lot of bloodline type stuff here

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in Denver and father son, brothers, all that kind of stuff, and

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it's been you know, it's it's
fascinating that I think that that we have

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those football lineage type type of things. What were you able to find out

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or what can you dazzle us with
in terms of statistics from these football bloodlines.

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Well, there's a lot of fun
stuff to talk about, and probably

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more than we can cram into one
segment. A stat that I had stumbled

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on before coming on this evening isn't
related to any of those four families,

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but a shout out to the Greasy
family because you have a Pro Football Hall

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of Fame quarterback. Bob Greasy led
the NFL in passerating eighty seven point eight

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nineteen seventy seven. His son,
Brian Greasy led the NFL in passerating one

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to two point nine in two thousand. What are the odds that two quarterbacks

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in a twenty three year span,
which is roughly the duration of Tom Brady's

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career, would both lead the NFL
in passerating. That's really interesting from a

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standpoint, But I would have come
a little closer to home, like really

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really closed, because christ McCaffrey just
got a new deal with the San Francisco

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forty nine ers. That's kind of
taking that running back market that most have

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devalued to a whole different level.
But I remember Kristen when he was much

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of a younger kid running around with
his dad. You know, my team

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at a McCaffrey. But what numbers
do you have on those two and their

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legacy as father and son and both
both incredible football players. So I'll touch

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on Christian for just a second.
You know, you're looking at a guy

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who, right now, at age
twenty seven, has already produced ten thousand,

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five hundred and five yards from scrimtage
and eighty one total touchdowns. The

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cool stat also because I always appreciate
players who have success regardless of the surroundings,

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the team, the system. He's
led the NFL in both total yards

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from scrimage and total touchdowns with two
different teams. He did it with Carolina

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in twenty nineteen he had two and
three hundred ninety three yards nineteen touchdowns,

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and he did it last year in
San Francisco twenty twenty three yards and twenty

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one touchdowns. And when you consider
the pedigree that he's coming from, Eddie

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Mack is one of my all time
favorite Broncos and I'll start with nineteen ninety

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four. Before he truly became need
McCaffrey that we appreciated here in Broncos country,

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he was with Mike Fanahan in ninety
four with forty nine ers, very

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small sample size. There, he
caught eleven of fourteen targets seventy eight point

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six percent. He had a seventy
one point four percent success percentage, which

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is an efficient symmetric per Pro Football
Reference, those two numbers would have ranked

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second and number one amongst wide receivers
in the NFL. That year if it

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were a larger sample size enough to
qualify so cool that he want to ring

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there. He goes on to Denver. He has three consecutive one thousand yard

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years ninety eight, ninety nine,
two thousand and You know, it's not

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surprising to see receivers do well with
John Elway throwing in the football, but

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the combination of Bobby Brister and Bryan
Greasy later ed McCaffrey from nineteen ninety nine

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to two thousand amongst all players in
the NFL six in receptions one seventy two,

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tenth in receiving yards twenty three hundred
and thirty five, eighth in touchdown

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reception sixteen, and eighth in first
downs one hundred and fourteen. So bear

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in mind he's one hundred and seventy
two receptions during that two year stand.

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What's more than Randy Moss and Taro
Loans too, respectively, caught one hundred

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and fifty seven passes each. Wow, that's fascinating, stuf fight. You

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know, Christian obviously leads the way
in money earned for the family after the

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new UH New contract. He said, it's like, you know, walking

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up to your dad being the big
ball. You know, they go out,

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Dad, you know you did all
this. But the family, I'm

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just saying, you know, and
then they've got of course, the Brothers's.

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It's incredibly athletic family overall. I
mean, you get Max and Dylan

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Luke and they just incredibly and to
be fair, at least it might be

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the most athletic on all of them
when all said and done. But you

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know, it is what it is. I think I think the mcaffie's are

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kind of Colorado royalty as far as
as far as that goes. Is Christian

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Hall of Famer? Is Is he
a future Hall of Famer in my opinion

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if he retired today. Yes,
very different style of play, but very

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Jim Brown asks in the sense that
he's been dominant pretty much from the time

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he entered the league in two thousand
and eight teams. So in my view,

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he's the most complete running back,
not just in the NFL now,

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of his entire your generation. So
he's twenty seven years old and have almost

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eleven thousand yards and over eighty touchdowns. Not too bad if you're gonna put

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a running back in the Hall of
Fame from this generation Christians the one.

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So keeping with this, whole team
about maybe five and son tandems and the

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world of football. Jonah Ellis,
son of Luther Ellis, one of my

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teammates here with the Denver Broncos.
Now, Jonah is just kind of getting

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his feet wet. But Lutha has
several sons who are playing in the NFL.

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What do you think that maybe Jonah
can bring to the Broncos that might

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start that conversation where people start comparing
him to his father. Well, Jonah's

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arguably the most talented amongst these brothers, and you know whether or not he'll

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go on to have the kind of
career's father did remains to be seen.

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So you know, his brother's Cayden
and Atlanta with the Falcons, Christian in

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New England with the Tats, and
Noah previously played for the Philadelphia Eagles for

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a few years. Joonah Ellis,
in my view, was the defensive steel

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of the two twenty four NFL draft. As I mentioned before, it's second

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amongst all the sense the players taken
in sacks, only lots who had more

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thirteen. Ellis had twelve, and
so the projection is good as long as

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he can stay healthy. I'm very
excited about what he can do in this

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defense. His father Luther had in
mind you a pretty underappreciated career defensive tackles

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that they usually ends up being the
case, nig. I mean, he

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put together three hundred and thirty one
total career tackles, twenty nine sacks.

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And to make that Denver connection,
he was your teammate in two thousand and

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four, the final game of his
career November seventh, two thousand and four,

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we ended up getting Houston thirty one
to fourteen. He got the final

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sack of his career sacked David Carr. David Carr went down four times that

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game, amongst thirty six trillion during
his career, unfortunately, and he had

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six tackles in that game. How
do you like that, yells is And

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in terms of I mean, they
got so many that they might be the

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mccaffreys of defense. We're if we're
like that. But let's go back to

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I think the first family of football, the most famous probably family of football,

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the Manning family. My father's favorite
player was Archie Manning. You know,

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I obviously Peyton and Eli, we've
got arch you know, kind of

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coming up. But I think the
thing about the Mannings. For me,

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that's interesting is first of all,
how good Archie was that. I think

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that that gets sort of lost to
the mix and say what an incredible athlete

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he was. Because we think of
Peyton Manning and Eli Manning, we think

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it was great quarterbacks, we don't
really think of them as phenomenal athletes,

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where Archie Manning was Steve Young before
Steve Young was Steve Young. Absolutely,

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Archie Manning was kind of cut of
the mold of Roger Stawback, a little

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bit more similar in style to maybe
a Trevor Lawrence into a Payt or an

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Eli or both pocket passers. I
wish I could remember who to attribute this

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quote to, but I remember hearing
years ago something to the effect that if

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Terry Bradshaw had been drafted by New
Orleans and Archie Manning had been drafted by

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Pittsburgh, Archie Manning would be in
the Pro Football Hall of Fame and we'd

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be asking who is Terry Bradshaw.
That might be a little hyperboling, but

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you have to look at what Archie
was able to achieve in New Orleans within

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the framework of the situation he played. So I got the numbers for Archie

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from nineteen seventy one to nineteen eighty
one, which really represents the time where

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he was a full time starter in
New Orleans. Amongst all NFL peers,

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he was two completions shy of fourth
one thousand, one hundred and forty eight,

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eight halfing yards short of six twenty
one thousand, seven hundred and thirty

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one thirteenth and touchdown passes he threw
one hundred and fifteen of us. You

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have to bear in mind, you
know, adjusting statistics for era. Joe

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Namath led the NFL in touchdown passes
with nineteen hearing Archie's sophomore season, and

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he was a two time Pro Bowl
selection in nineteen seventy eight. Nineteen seventy

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nine helped lead the New Orleans Saints
the records of seven and nine and eight

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and eight. So when you consider
the teams that he was playing with,

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I would say that you could make
an argument that his career was an over

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achievement. Archie Manning is usually the
example people use when they're referring to incredibly

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talented college quarterbacks who end up in
tough situations. Archie Manning very underrated quarterback

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historically, in my opinion, all
right, Ryan, we got to take

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it back to the defensive side of
the field. One of I mean,

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I love watching this guy practice.
I love watching play because it reminds me

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of Champ barely to four who I
play with, and that's up. He

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is two pats, Tan and tell
me because Stan is already he's already gone

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to two Pro Bowls all ready.
But what does he need to do in

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your mind? You got to be
put on that same category as his dad,

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past sertan senior. He definitely has
some big shoes to fill. And

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for him, I think he's already
displayed the ability to play amongst the very

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best at his position at first team
All Pro selection in twenty twenty two,

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and as you mentioned that, a
two time Pro bowler in twenty twenty two

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and twenty twenty three. We look
at what he's been able to do.

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Having some success against Patrick Mahomes,
it reminds me of his father's success against

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the most dominant quarterback of that generation, Paid Manning ps one for lack of

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a better phrase, seven and four
against Manning. During his time in the

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AFC East. He was a three
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three and four He was a first
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two, and that year the Dolphins
had the top rated passer rating defense in

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the AFC, holding opponents to seventy
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AFC and pass defense the XP again
a Pro Football Reference metrics, so very

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similar trajectories in terms of the two
Sir ten cornerbacks. I think it's just

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a matter of continuing to do what
he's already doing well. We look forward

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to him doing that here in Denver. Obviously, there was a lot of

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trade bs out there, which I
try to tell people was absolute nonsense.

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With get Lebrugs were never trading passer
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was happening. I saw reports that
they were put together a package move up

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to three that it was all absolute, utter nonsense. He's going to be

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a dever Bronco for a long time. You know, I don't know if

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Satan is the best corner in the
NFL. Those kind of lists are subjective

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and all that kind of stuff anyway, But where do you put him based

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on what it is that he's able
to do, which seems to be about

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everything. Where do you put him
right now in the league? As far

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as ranking him as a corner,
I believe that if pats er ten were

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to be surrounded and we'll see,
because you're not going to be able to

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feel the complete defense the caliber of
a guy who's the first team All Pro

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selection. But I think as we
we start to establish greater balance and we

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build the defense from the bottom up, you can make the argument that he's

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the best corner in football. You
know, so far, he's really been

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holding his own on some defensive units
that haven't quite been the Broncos defensive ole,

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the Nick Ferguson era or the Orange
Crush era. So you know,

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maybe I'm being a little bit biased, and I think with the right support,

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having another year in Vans Joseph System, I think there will be an

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argument to be made by the end
of the year that he may be the

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best corner in all football. So
there are several guys who are either in

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the league right now or coming into
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When you think about Marvin Harrison Junior
who is just coming into the league,

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Antoine wilferl Junior, Frank Gord Junr. Is now in the league, and

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Brendan Rice. When you think about
those guys. What's of those guys that

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maybe I just name or you just
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you think that they can kind of
put themselves, not on the level of

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their fathers, but kind of start
that conversation in comparison. I think that

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all of the players you just mentioned
certainly have an opportunity to play up to

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or close to the level of their
fathers. Obviously, the most intriguing of

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the names you mentioned is going to
be Marvin Harrison Junior. Because he's arguably

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the best receiving prospect we've seen in
a number of years. And when you

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look at the trajectory of wide receivers
who are taken at the top of the

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draft, you don't see the same
correlation with success as you do with the

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first quarterbacks taken in other positions in
football. But in terms of what Marvin

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Harrison Jr. Was able to produce
at Ohio State, and given the caliber

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a football player, his father was
one of the greatest route runners in the

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history of pro football, he's the
most intriguing. I do think he's the

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player on paper who has the greatest
upside. It'll be very interesting to see

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what he's able to do here in
his rookie season. Ryan, we appreciate

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it as always, brother, Looking
forward to checking in with you next week.

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