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We are already here welcome, this
Friday in peace, welcome, Dr Amel

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Hello, how good night pita,
how you are, how you are.

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Everybody. Thank you so much for
joining us on this evening weekend chair,

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weekend night and review and comment,
because the last two chapters of the Stanley

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pay series came out. Let'
s discuss the breakdowns. What we saw

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I' ve already documented. I
was watching interviews that you recommended here in

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the love chat and hear are left
instead of solving, as there are more

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doubts. We must always understand and
remember that the series is based on real

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facts, but it is still fiction. Welcome everyone who' s already connected

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we wanted moderators that I love.
Thank you, Celi and Caballero who are

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already here and as soon as the
others arrive I will also greet them thanks

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to everyone who are members of the
channel and to the Viterel, to Libéllula,

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thanks for being here, all are
subscribers also thanks for being here.

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Arel and I saw you, thank
you, thank you, comment, talk

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and you' ve seen the last
two chapters and you' ve seen the

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six. If you haven' t
seen anything, well, here we are

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telling you what this series is about
or what this series was that is presented

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six months after Bigs' documentary and
that has generated a lot of comments thank

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you I mean on YouTube and everyone
who is on Podcast, thank you for

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being here. But interesting everything that
has been tied up because those involved have

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also given interviews, since before its
premiere it had not already generated noise because

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they release this trailer. The trailer, because you see something scandalous not and

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then immediately, because it attracts a
lot of attention, that I think because

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it is part of the strategy always
advertising of a trailer not to catch and

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generate a lot of curiosity. But
in addition, it makes us go and

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find many of this other material,
as you say, starting with the previous

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documentary up to the interviews that each
of them has given over time, many

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recent and others years before. Yeah, there' s one thing that draws

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attention. Those involved said it'
s one thing I don' t want

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to revive, but they went to
give interviews. Yes, they participated in

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Biggs' documentary and also in Vics' documentary, which is this one we

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have, this is Vix' s
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their opinion, gave their testimony and
then I no longer want to relive this,

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but they went and thought about who
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s me I' m gonna sue
and I' m gonna but wow.

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They got involved again and gave interviews
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on, something that is very interesting
and right now they were writing it to

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me in the chat and I saw
it too. Adn forty well, one

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of the YouTube pages, one of
Aztec' s YouTube channels, uploaded to

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the last program, the program of
June 7, nine hundred ninety- nine,

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which has been so controversial that it
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' t know who on the day
of that program didn' t get that

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message no. I saw it all. Look, I' m gonna go

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to the bald spot and the lectra
ad and the good one. I'

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m going to introduce you to something. I' m going to introduce you

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to something that caught my attention when
I was watching that show. I can

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' t present it completely. It' s just a little piece. But

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we go like this when the capi
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in the documentary, in the testimonials
that he the police, he says

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good and we see it in this
program number seven that he arrives with his

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foot broken and still speaks of the
doctor who attended him and tells him mandan

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is an opaque greeting, because he
is the doctor full. And then Paco

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makes jokes about already paying the doctor
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Then the sea brings this broken foot
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is already broken. Not when what
happens, the attack Well, the execution

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of Mr Paco Stanley Mario Besares walks
crutches and says I had to have a

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space, because because of the crutches, I have to walk on crutches.

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However, observe this little pedacite and
Everything does it on that foot. He

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does everything on that foot. Everything
does Mario Besares dances around, turns on

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the foot that is supposed to be
broken. There is supported totais tante to

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make like this kick move with healthy
foot, while the injured foot is totally

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holding the exact body and then the
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When you did a whole show,
yes, when you came and came out,

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it' s getting like a noise
of forgiveness. When you came,

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you went out, you walked in, you climbed up, you lowered the

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whole forum without it. However,
to make, to be in frog pool,

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if you have crutches and if you
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the most. An observation and good. Chapter five six I liked, the

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five, the six, the truth
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I was saying what an implausible thing
and right now, I' m going

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to tell you why. But let' s start looking at the chapter in

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chapter five, six, the five
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had been waiting, which is Paola' s during which I think is the

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most innocent of this whole case,
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I don' t hear my fingers
anymore. Looks like a couple Prince

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Charles already took my nails off,
but, well, I' d love

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to be royalty. So we have
the same fingers, but, Paola seems

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to me the most innocent of this
whole case, she was no longer there

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and there was already an huaera And
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an huaera pe Ahorita, we'
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And Paola, during that time go
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Paola' s chapter begins between this
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says she' s Uruguayan. They
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accent, that she' s a
model who makes fun of Khan Medio here

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in the series, because they say
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nervous laugh that we' ve told
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which has a nervous laugh. Well, here he drinks being that they

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know her very well. Then they
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that is so terrible, not return, because they already tell him that he

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smiles. She doesn' t want
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mad at them, but they give
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him the job and then that'
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Later Paola is seen in the prison
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story to a journalist. Remember that
the narrative resource of this series is to

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tell you and your version of the
story to a third party. This third

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is obviously fictitious. But in someone
you have to recharge. Benito did it

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with a Brenda waiter, he did
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it with another reporter. But those
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clear because that doesn' t even
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as is the narrative structure, because
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resource. So, well, she' s already sitting. He has spent

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more than a year in prison and
the fictional character is called Sergio García should

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not be having a name, but
good has it. He' s a

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journalist who' s interviewing him.
And then Paola speaks the character Paul talks

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about the messages he received from enel
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He talks about how demanding Mario was. He says that Paco would be there

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and see him as a dad and
that Mario is the one who wouldn'

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t let him do it and that
Paco would, that Paco would give him

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more freedom, not here, like
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Paola said during his YouTube channel,
of this good image that he already has

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about Paco totally yes, yes,
yes, yes, he or he manage

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very without n to what she has
told us that he did do what we

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said yesterday, I say that he
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it. It was somewhat insistent,
but it did not push much less in

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terms of work. We' re
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we' re going to leave your
job if you go or don' t

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go to the famous cafe, but
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You step on it there when that
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get a little bit of the criticism
that was made of Belinda, because it

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makes the impression that as if she
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I kind of did the same thing. That' s why, when

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we were talking about movies, he
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I was saying that I wish you
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s, because I didn' t
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I felt it a little excessive.
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thinking. It is difficult to reproduce
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At that time, Paula, in
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condition that she says of the chin. So, she on her channel,

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she says oh it' s that
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because there they do it as if
she had her chin projected forward she hadn

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' t gone out and when I
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she had was stuck in. But
I say how you do that. No.

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I know there are prostheses. Yes, yes, yes, it would

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be very difficult, but I didn' t like Linda' s tone of

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voice eh Andale. So, between
that and but what they want, I

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think I mean well, she had
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back. She had something that made
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everything. But truth, at first, besides the tone, the rhythm,

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how he talks like slow, I
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because I don' t think she' s doing it wrong. In

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fact, when they' re already
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gonna keep talking to us. I
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but at first he speaks very badly. He speaks because he is neither

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Mexican, nor Uruguayan, nor anything. It is like but more with a

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more neighborhood tone, which is not
that it is better simply paola during its

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Uruguaya. Then she couldn' t
have a Mexican neighborhood accent, because she

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isn' t born in Mexico City, like every region of the country,

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because we have a good accent.
It was very difficult for Brenda to have

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it. I' m saying Paola
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can see Paola' s leaving a
joint because she' s already got her

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job. They make her look like
the head of Cannes, Paula says she

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denied it. I said I wasn' t the boss of Canes and they

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' re already getting ready. After
the show Paola' s viper sounds,

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he is warned of the murder of
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feel sad. This is the character. We' re not talking about Paula,

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although what Paula said is very much
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t say then that she felt sad. Live one thing is like this.

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Yeah, it' s like a
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character who plays Belinda, who is
Paola, is supposed to say well,

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I got sad, because I ran
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I mean, which is frivolous,
no, but, well, Paula will

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clear it up on her YouTube channel. Baola looks like she lives with the

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parents, has her daughter, is
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opera and when she leaves this casting
it is when the police stop her and

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then they make her declare her She
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Villares. We haven' t seen
much. Well, it' s not

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product. He is the attorney Villanueva, who would be the attorney of the

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Billiard of nine hundred and ninety-
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in Mexico City. So the Villar
tells her what color your eyes are,

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because green you don' t have
blues, not greens. That' s

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why they fight the gass that here
show that the prosecutor wanted her to fit

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in, that she fit in and
tells him because there' s a man

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named Luis Gabriel Valencia, the flame, that obviously is also a changed man,

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who is the cook of the Amezcua. And then he says that,

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because you' re his accomplice and
that they saw you come in when you

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came with him and that you conspired
and that you were also Mario' s

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lover. So Paula' s character
says hey, that' s a lie,

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that can' t be and then
the prosecutor Villanueva accuses him that he

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would be the billiard solicitor accuses her
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comes out who knows Sara aldret Ay. Yeah, that' s very impressive,

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because you remember. We had commented
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Paola original, Paola said that she
had met Sar Aldreti that San Andrés had

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protected you life and sheltered her during
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that scene appears in this show exactly
comes out Sara Aldrete and then she'

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s already organized to watch here.
It should be clarified that one of the

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things that denotes intelligence or a form
of intelligence in a person is the ability

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to adapt. And Paolo Arante had
it. She had that ability to adapt

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and survive here, well, and
she didn' t want her daughter to

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be taken to. Finally, in
the series, who defends Paula during her

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cousin is what the series says.
That' s what the series says,

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well, then the cousin goes and
says no, because this is extremely complicated.

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The truth, well, letters to
Paula are beginning to arrive because she

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became famous and then she tells the
reporter after that Paco was very demanding,

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that he was very professional. In
the end, the cousin ends up taking

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the daughter because she wanted the daughter
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But, well, finally the daughter
is going to visit her and then they

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tell Paola that the witnesses are identifying
her. But here comes an interesting part

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that, of course, is also
a resource. I guess it' s

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a literary resource. The cousin gets
an anonymous call from a reporter who emphasizes

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this report and looks back at it
so I can write it down. Well,

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the reporter tells him to come to
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to give you some information and tell
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left- wing newspaper and this left- wing newspaper isn' t going to

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publish the information I have. Remember, the Head of Government was a left

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- wing cárdenas quautemoc. So she
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this left- wing newspaper is not
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to tell you, but I'
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says here there' s a plot
to put you in jail. Says me.

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At first I thought this was a
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he says, but it' s
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then he tells her that they used
it to attack the TV sets they'

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ve been using. They' re
using Paula, according to the reporter,

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they' re using Paola to attack
TV sets that are attacking the government.

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So exactly, because Cardenas was the
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this is a very dangerous crime for
power. I mean here. This part

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is very important, because that'
s when they actually start saying the series,

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it starts to say how the real
reason Paco dies and all the forces

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around it is, in my opinion, as I see it, and that

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it already becomes a matter of state
materially and that' s why she'

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s going to be a scapegoat,
that she' s not going to be

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able to, that she' s
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because all a power is around this
version. Let' s say exactly.

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They needed to solve this crime and, on the other hand, the

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televisions had them on them. They
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' s supposed to be the testimony
of the cook of the Amezcua. Valencia

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says he saw Paola visiting the brothers
to Mezcua, to whom Paco owed them

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money This is what the witnesses are
supposed to say and that' s when

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they agree on this that had already
been said. There' s also an

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audio, a cassette. They mention
that there is an audio cassette that came

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to the newspaper where they say where
a prisoner talks to the police and the

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prisoner. She talks about an old
cane that was called in the series Rosaura

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Vidal and that she was with Loana
and that she was a girlfriend to one

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of the inmates and so on.
Not here how interesting it is here at

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the point. This is the central
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because this is where Paola gets mixed
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Yeah, because besides, in chapter
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the end that comes out as if
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Not that they' re warning you
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the movement where they' re going
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simple fact that he was an outsider. Maybe, but then they do that,

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they swap one ooze for another.
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that holds throughout Paola' s entire
chapter, which is not me. It

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' s that Rosaura, that other
Rosaura, and then she' s supposed

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to be a Paco operator. I
owed a lot of pounds of I don

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' t know what substance. So
Rosaura was an operator of this one.

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Mr Carrillo and they say it'
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but he says the joke is that
with you and Paula during we'

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re forming the figure we need to
accuse. We don' t need this

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person. And then that' s
what you just said. And I also

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mentioned in this chapter that this Rubia
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and that she went to Colombia that
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her again. And they don'
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he says that oddly the reporter tells
him they don' t want to go

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after her because they' re probably
protecting someone. It should be noted and

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reiterated that there is speculation here,
here there is fiction. It' s

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based on a series, but it
doesn' t mean it' s gonna

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be you see a real story,
but it doesn' t mean that everything

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the series is saying is 100%
real. Of course, that' s

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how they challenged Paola, who had
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much so, that this is fictional, that we all realize that in each

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chapter the crime shows different, because
everyone supposedly imagines it when they find out

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what happened then it always looks different. You see in Benito' s when

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they tell him this happened, he
looks like it' s being committed inside

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the restaurant, because it' s
like he assumed it when they told him

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it happened in such a place.
Then you see something that didn' t

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happen, that inside the restaurant they
come in and there they shoot and all

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then in the other. The other
version, I don' t know about

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Brenda, is also a little different
and so they are changing it to realize

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all the ideas that could be clear
tenor, the versions of each and the

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ideas that each could have had.
But, finally, the Prima Paola during

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this statement mentions Rosaura Vidal and the
prosecutor shuts her up and the Prima tells

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her no, because I gave you
the information, but you didn' t

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have to let her go right now, but well, Mr Attorney Villanueva presents

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the witnesses who say they saw her
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And then, then, the question. The cousin lawyer tells them hears,

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but they have the statements are equal, as when copies on the exams,

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that is, exactly the same three
and then he tells them and the

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witnesses end up saying good, because
it is that I did not even read

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what I sign. In the end, this cousin discovers that she was also

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a commercial lawyer, according to the
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WOW- type criminalist and then says
stop the witness because in March of nineteen

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hundred and ninety- nine, amezcua
was already in prison and then Paula could

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not have visited him. No,
that' s for some reason the dates

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didn' t match. Then it
is shown that she has to be free.

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They appeal to human rights, they
reject the request to release it.

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And finally, Paola decides with her
cousin that they have to make a lot

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of noise. And that' s
when they make this statement on television and

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ask the witness to stop lying and
you see the image of Vicente Fox'

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s triumph, that is, Cuautemo
Cárdenas lost the Presidency and, indeed,

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there is a great media manipulation and
the right witness sends good to notary.

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Says I, I lied, I, I lied, I, I lied,

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and then Paola comes out Free is
chapter five. Here. He'

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s here, so they make it
very clear that everything was a political motive.

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How the case was handled, not
Paco' s death, but how

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the case moved. It had to
do with a political issue, which is

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something else. The reasons why Paco
was killed, for they are other exact

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ones, and this is what entirely
pertains to Paola' s chapter, because

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it explains the reasons why she was
involved as part of all this armed force

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that had been generated to explain to
society or what had happened and how,

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supposedly, they were capturing the culprits
and imprisoning them. I mean, that

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' s the political part, as
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it' s important in Paol'
s chapter, especially because she' s

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the one that she didn' t
flat out, because exactly here has nothing

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to do with the crime itself,
so, here' s what Paula'

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s chapter has to do with this
false accusation for political reasons. Now yes,

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then chapter six, which is that
of Attorney General Villarreal, who would

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be Billar' s and then wake
him up in the morning and come interviewing

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an old and abandoned house a journalist
who we don' t know if it

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' s like a replica in Carmen
Aristeguilite and it' s not something,

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but it' s another journalist with
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The plausible part here is that the
solicitor to see in the end, in

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the end, does justify it,
but it seems to me that it is

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a bit cheating, because the solicitor
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So, the attorney all he does
is put his hypothesis, make his thesis,

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but he doesn' t present any
proof. He supposes then to be

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in this luxurious, abandoned house and
then he arrives at Sandra and well,

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because he already enters, not the
procurator tells him is that we found that

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he was carrying. We started to
investigate it because it had a governor'

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s charola and it also brought in
substances and then it said this was actually

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a federal, not a local case, but we had to solve it because

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of the issue of the next presidency. There it is, you know,

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a political crime. Clearly and then
a guilty man didn' t come up

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and he interviews later. I don' t know if you managed to define

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who this procuro would be, who
would be this character with whom the prosecutor

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also interviews, one who comes out
as gray with his back. And ah

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well, doctor tells us I don' t know if he made me at

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that time. I don' t
know no, but he gathers around to

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come out of his back and gathers
around to say what we' re going

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to say? And I don'
t know what, because what I understand

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is that he' s the candidate, not that he' s scared blue

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and like to move him there a
little bit. They tell you, doctor,

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it tells you that the doctor,
but what we' re going to

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do, because I already told you
they have to hurry like he gives you

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certain instructions. They call him a
doctor, instead of an engineer, not

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that you' re right already,
but he is. Because then, later

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on, that' s when he
says because we' ve already lost since

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then it seems to me that it
is. So here, then, here

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they let you see that well,
they let you see or let you intuit

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or suppose that the solicitor was somehow
forced, forced into this not and good.

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Then he says Paco must have been
well accused beloved and Paco were comrades.

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That' s what Attorney General Villarreal
says. She tells the reporter.

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Not Paco were comrades, they were
brothers. Says I, I was forced

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and says here they also mention.
This is the part where, of course,

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I think that Mario Besares could be
very angry with this series, because

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practically, says Mario got pechito because
he accused everything. I was accusing him

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of everything, that is, among
the jokes, among all of them.

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I had lowered some illustrations among these
heavy jokes, although Paola during her channel

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said that it was how Mario himself, who was how they took them,

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took them. They didn' t
have this relationship of heavy jokes. Well,

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they say so here. All this
about the son and so on,

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because it makes even if it was
a joke and they took it away.

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So, you give me the floor
to charge you no, and then you

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say that the prosecutor forces Mario Bueno
to testify to her and Paco makes a

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difference. They present this scene of
Paco with this mysterious huera and that they

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had differences for some properties and that
Paco had to pay. And Paco says

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I' ll pay you. I' ll give it back to you.

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Yeah, he doesn' t die
there, it' s over, we

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get there and then you say and
then why he was killed. If you

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suppose it' s the motive.
Ah, well, he' s into

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the Attorney General says Paco felt untouchable. This is the very unlikely part,

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because, as I knew, Paco
is from the least I say sorry.

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How would you have known about Paco' s conversation with the Huera? How

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did Paco know, how did the
Prosecutor know this pact to turn everything from

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Paco to the Ore how the procurator
knew it. You can' t talk

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about something that you didn' t
see, that you weren' t there

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then that they never knew, they
never had in front of them such an

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oera the oera in so how would
you know. I mean, the only

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boner is the one in my house. And then, very my güey your

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beautiful. And then, well says
the solicitor. He said Paco felt untouchable

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as a personality of how he was
going to be able to kill him.

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Nothing was going to happen, I
already had this psychosis, I already had

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these psychosis because I had had a
previous attack or this assault that we had

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already mentioned, which is also mentioned
in the documentary. And then, then,

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he says Paco desperately needed money.
But what I don' t understand

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is him. It' s supposed
to describe a scene where Paco is desperately

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looking for money and so on,
how he knew, how a person can

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narrate something he didn' t know
is actually the entire chapter of the solicitor.

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There' s nothing left but a
speculation of one' s own character.

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Yeah, you know what I mean. It' s as it is,

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as I think the solicitor must have
thought this and then, then what

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' s the story. So it
was all a dream, the typical ching

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resource and it woke up that that' s very cheap, very cheap,

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exactly cheap. Five days later,
he has five chapters, with testimonies that

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most of them say about a case
that has not been closed, but that

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he was tried with documents and where
the documents are, how exactly what happens.

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They' re wrong here because they
don' t do that thing I

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was dreaming about. But almost because
when the reporter, who she' s

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giving her is in there, she
tells her ay you know what it'

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s all about, like, a
lot of questions of the kind you'

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re saying, but how about this, but in everything. And then he

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says, and by the way,
because he' s talking about some cats

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that are out there in the house. And then she tells him, and

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by the way, there' s
no cat here like giving you have to

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understand that he' s not dreaming, but that he' s delirious.

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It' s because of the house. I think it' s also another

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narrative resource, that the house is
like abandoned, like full of plants that

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it wouldn' t have to be
in there. It' s not like

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a jungle in there with the couches, like with sheets, but like wrinkled,

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like a potty in the house,
the pool looks like a very careless,

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dirty pool. I feel like it' s like a metaphor for the

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person we' re seeing. Not
then will we understand that he is already

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decadent, that he is almost dying, because he is very sick. And

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then in his mind, what there
is is a series of delusions not that

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it' s already, Miss Cloyd
scrambled and that make you doubt again everything

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that was apparently going to be so
important of his revelations. That' s

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exactly why I think the worst chapter
for my taste, for my taste,

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but everyone can see it the way
they want it is the last chapter.

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I think it' s a terrible, terrible closure. Says it may sound

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rogue says Daniel, but what an
impression that they implied that when they edited

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the dream soap operas Mario and Paco
were there with substances. So I saw

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that scene, too, which seemed
a little bit useless to me. The

412
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:38.000
scene had nothing to do with it. In other words, we had already

413
00:31:38.039 --> 00:31:41.359
been repeated in each chapter the consumption, the holidays, all that we had

414
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:47.599
already been told. No, then
he says Paco was already afraid, he

415
00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:49.279
calls his house to say goodbye.
This comes out in a scene. According

416
00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:56.000
to the procurator, according to attorney
Villarreal, Mario I say Paco had already

417
00:31:56.119 --> 00:32:00.680
spoken on the phone to his house. Nor how is it in all your

418
00:32:00.759 --> 00:32:07.039
delirium and invention of the case,
why would it hallucinate that Paco spoke to

419
00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:09.079
his family to say goodbye. That
doesn' t have a go either.

420
00:32:09.960 --> 00:32:15.359
No, it has nothing to do
with that scene, if it was probably

421
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:19.640
a secondary character who could have played
someone in Paco' s family who would

422
00:32:19.680 --> 00:32:23.599
have received that call not and that
son at some point was right. He

423
00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:27.559
spoke to me and told me,
but or that the prosecutor had told me

424
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:30.839
the relative told me not this,
but not that Paco had said it.

425
00:32:30.920 --> 00:32:35.960
I mean, anyway, or the
solicitor knew. Really, no paco.

426
00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:40.880
Finally, Paco, according to the
procurator, on the seventh day of June,

427
00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:45.720
went to sleep at the forum.
He didn' t want to go

428
00:32:45.720 --> 00:32:50.599
out anymore. Get out of there
and you' re supposed to wake up

429
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:53.079
all tired raw. Go and see
the chapter, Paco' s last program,

430
00:32:53.920 --> 00:32:57.839
for that is, well, to
know no, because only he will

431
00:32:57.920 --> 00:33:01.039
have known. Then you can see
that Mario arrives in the morning that already

432
00:33:01.039 --> 00:33:09.200
has his foot hurt and well,
he enters with the exact charter here comes

433
00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:13.519
out and this we have already seen
and please tell me. But you and

434
00:33:13.640 --> 00:33:15.839
I have already seen the chapter of
June 7, nine hundred and ninety-

435
00:33:19.480 --> 00:33:22.000
nine, and I do not see
what they say, that there was a

436
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:29.000
forum with great attention. Mario'
s looking nervous. Mario' s supposed

437
00:33:29.319 --> 00:33:35.319
to say," Mario sends his
regards and Paco says pay them and they

438
00:33:35.400 --> 00:33:37.640
pass with the papers" Hits him
with the papers. That wasn' t

439
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:42.839
the day when Mario, when Paco
is here and tells him to pay,

440
00:33:42.960 --> 00:33:47.880
that' s when he' s
telling your doctor that it' s his

441
00:33:47.960 --> 00:33:50.599
foot but I didn' t see
him say" Pay them," pay

442
00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:53.240
them. I think it must have
been another day. But if I'

443
00:33:53.279 --> 00:33:57.839
m wrong, and if you'
ve already seen the June 7 program,

444
00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:00.960
let me down, but I'
m pretty sure that that' s Usa

445
00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:05.759
that day, if it doesn'
t say pay him, but to the

446
00:34:05.839 --> 00:34:07.199
doctor who happens to you not that
you still made this joke by name,

447
00:34:07.679 --> 00:34:10.920
because he' s a poor man, he has no money, he'

448
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:10.920
s useless and Mario still told him
you don' t defend me compadre,

449
00:34:10.920 --> 00:34:15.079
don' t defend yourself. I
mean, it was good, because Paco

450
00:34:15.159 --> 00:34:21.840
is stressed out. Suda calls Rosa, has a call from Rosaura. Paco

451
00:34:22.039 --> 00:34:24.239
lo baco is going to pay back
all the money and then here' s

452
00:34:24.239 --> 00:34:28.880
the solicitor. Here in a war
between the triples that were three criminal groups

453
00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:34.679
that I' m not going to
mention, but each one started with the

454
00:34:34.719 --> 00:34:37.199
lyrics and wanted to end it.
But in reality, the message for the

455
00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:40.679
authorities was to say this place is
mine and I can do what I want

456
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:49.440
and I chose him, because he
also has debts with him. You don

457
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:53.239
' t see a scene where one, a bunch of thugs force Mario to

458
00:34:53.239 --> 00:35:01.639
warn them. You don' t
see Mario Besares' call when he'

459
00:35:01.639 --> 00:35:07.840
s talking to him, this criminal
and that' s seen in one of

460
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:09.880
the chapters. It seems to me
that I don' t know if in

461
00:35:09.880 --> 00:35:14.480
the first one or in the Brenda
one, but when Paco takes the phone

462
00:35:14.559 --> 00:35:17.079
from Mario Besares who go in the
truck and Paco is supposed to tell him

463
00:35:17.639 --> 00:35:20.559
ay my queen, he' s
actually the criminal. That' s what

464
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:22.360
they say in chapter seven. Then, in chapter seven, in chapter six,

465
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:28.280
in chapter seven not yet the truth. In chapter six, they do

466
00:35:28.480 --> 00:35:36.039
imply that Mario put it, that
Mario warned. You can understand that.

467
00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:43.079
Before the call is also seen a
moment when Mario is caught, he is

468
00:35:43.119 --> 00:35:46.480
put in a car with a bag
on his head. Then they take it

469
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:52.360
off and tell him on this phone
we' re going to call you with

470
00:35:52.440 --> 00:35:53.960
this phone and there you' re
going to tell us, that is,

471
00:35:54.320 --> 00:36:00.400
they put such a scene that the
prosecutor is describing, which also supposes that

472
00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:05.239
he supposes in his imaginary as you
just said in a delusion. Then you

473
00:36:05.360 --> 00:36:07.920
get that phone and then you see
again the scene that they' re going

474
00:36:07.960 --> 00:36:13.920
in the van. They' re
hardly going to go to the famous breakfast

475
00:36:14.000 --> 00:36:16.559
when he answers he hears the voice
and then Paco takes the time, but

476
00:36:16.559 --> 00:36:19.920
they already put him there, oh
yes, he was the one giving him

477
00:36:19.920 --> 00:36:24.880
the instruction. I think they may
have done this because basically because it'

478
00:36:24.920 --> 00:36:28.119
s a resource for me not to
be sued. That' s me,

479
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:30.639
because it was all a dream.
It' s all an assumption of the

480
00:36:30.639 --> 00:36:35.599
character. In the end we'
re saying it' s not true,

481
00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:37.360
not good. Finally passes the scene
where the sea are in the taquería.

482
00:36:37.519 --> 00:36:42.440
Mario' s going to the bathroom. Paco tells him that he already managed

483
00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:46.119
and Mario would have wanted to know, notice that this scene is very beautiful

484
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:51.639
and very sad and very good by
Luis Gerardo Mendez so they don' t

485
00:36:51.639 --> 00:36:52.199
tell me anymore. I' m
not wrong. Luis Gerardo Mensa makes a

486
00:36:52.199 --> 00:36:57.480
scene that does, it moves you, it moves you, because it is

487
00:36:57.519 --> 00:37:01.360
this friend who has given to the
other friend and that from the bathroom is

488
00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:07.159
hearing the shooting and who cries and
who cries. And yes, it is

489
00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:10.280
a very nice scene, very very
sad, very well performed, but very

490
00:37:10.280 --> 00:37:14.559
credible. However, the scene is
very credible, but it is in the

491
00:37:14.639 --> 00:37:19.840
imaginary of the character. It'
s also all he' s counting,

492
00:37:19.960 --> 00:37:22.440
that' s in the end.
Indeed, as we are told here,

493
00:37:22.880 --> 00:37:29.920
the journalist dismantles the story with a
series of questions, which is practically what

494
00:37:29.920 --> 00:37:32.880
is going to end the chapter.
When I like what he' s saying

495
00:37:32.880 --> 00:37:36.480
lupita, but you know how you' re gonna know this, but how

496
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:37.519
could this happen the same day more, this one and I don' t

497
00:37:37.519 --> 00:37:39.719
know what. And then that'
s where it messes up the version.

498
00:37:42.079 --> 00:37:45.840
You' re done, because not
here is still looking. Here they say

499
00:37:45.280 --> 00:37:51.320
then it was overtaken by a people
and it is almost in the end a

500
00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:53.519
criminal hegemony and then it had to
want in the square. The reporter questions

501
00:37:53.639 --> 00:38:02.320
Villarreal for blaming an exact game Villarreal, feels frustrated. Then he says he

502
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:10.840
' s coming. This is when
we don' t know why it comes

503
00:38:10.880 --> 00:38:15.440
also talking about the TV set and
then this is when I don' t

504
00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:17.719
know if this character is representing Lily
T and it' s or what else

505
00:38:17.719 --> 00:38:22.400
it will be or what it will
be. But well, then it'

506
00:38:22.400 --> 00:38:25.920
s checked, according to the chapter
that the calls if they were brende that

507
00:38:27.039 --> 00:38:30.079
and the report tells her the investigation
was irregular. And then comes the attack

508
00:38:30.159 --> 00:38:37.559
on the journalist. And well,
in the end you die a real villain

509
00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:43.480
and also because they present two hypotheses
of his death, not exactly. And

510
00:38:43.559 --> 00:38:46.679
then, because what I' m
going to say he, he at the

511
00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:51.880
end burns avienta, the fireplace the
cassette recording of everything he just told,

512
00:38:52.199 --> 00:38:55.599
of all that he just told and
infer and put together in his story.

513
00:38:58.960 --> 00:39:01.880
And he destroys the cassette and she
stays very calm, doesn' t tell

514
00:39:01.880 --> 00:39:06.679
him, but how it goes,
because she says this material won' t

515
00:39:06.679 --> 00:39:13.320
even work, we won' t
even use it, because it' s

516
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:17.320
inconsistent, because it' s implausible
at many times and at some point,

517
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:23.280
because it does give a hint that
it could be a lilit teies maybe because

518
00:39:23.320 --> 00:39:28.360
it also tells her that you don' t believe me, because this Edenka

519
00:39:28.440 --> 00:39:31.320
doesn' t want to believe that
it' s ede Khan who is the

520
00:39:31.320 --> 00:39:32.360
real no Paola worked on the television
where you are. So he tells you

521
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:37.280
then, because we are talking that
it was Treazteca at that time, that

522
00:39:37.280 --> 00:39:39.599
it was paco and where they were
all. And the two versions also of

523
00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:45.719
the yes of death not one that
was also through a crime, and the

524
00:39:45.719 --> 00:39:47.239
other, because natural death, which
is what we really knew in the news

525
00:39:47.559 --> 00:39:52.159
that was given about this procurator notice, that is what I saw when you

526
00:39:52.239 --> 00:39:57.320
signal the scene that is very moving
and well achieved of how it stays in

527
00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:09.639
interpreting Mario Besar. It is this
actor, Luis Gerardo Méndez, very similar.

528
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:14.400
I think those dramatic scenes were well
achieved. What happens when Paola the

529
00:40:14.559 --> 00:40:20.280
Belinda playing Paula is also in jail
and she doesn' t bring her hair

530
00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:24.800
that bad anymore. He' s
in the clothes they wear there and he

531
00:40:24.880 --> 00:40:29.360
falls apart and he cries and he
already talks different. I don' t

532
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:32.280
know if the address wanted to mark
it or why. But those are the

533
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:37.039
moments, I think, because they
were more shocking about what they had to

534
00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:43.280
suffer. There now, these versions
of this chapter six that we say over

535
00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:49.599
and over again are being narrated by
the actor who represents the procurator of that

536
00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:52.920
moment, with a lot of doubts
that arise, but it is a very

537
00:40:52.960 --> 00:40:58.639
dramatic version, also, that is, of great impact to think that things

538
00:40:58.679 --> 00:41:01.599
will happen like this, so it
is the chapter that is irregular. As

539
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:05.239
you say, maybe you' re
the one who liked it the least,

540
00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:10.079
but I' m the one who
was most impressed by how hard the hypothesis

541
00:41:10.199 --> 00:41:15.360
he' s making is because the
threats are already there. A very desperate

542
00:41:15.400 --> 00:41:22.079
paco character comes out, sweating first
very arrogant, first very arrogant and saying

543
00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:25.639
then to me not because I,
that' s why I put my name

544
00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:31.360
And there comes the famous version of
almost he do it as they want and

545
00:41:31.360 --> 00:41:36.400
that, then, they end up
doing it as they wanted, as he

546
00:41:36.400 --> 00:41:38.559
has told then. I am impressed
by that, although I agree with all

547
00:41:38.559 --> 00:41:45.239
the inaccuracies and contradictions and the difficulty
for this gentleman to know a lot of

548
00:41:45.239 --> 00:41:47.320
things that are not in any statement, that he did not see and that

549
00:41:47.320 --> 00:41:51.960
there is no one who has revealed
them so or at that time what happens

550
00:41:51.960 --> 00:41:57.199
to him? Then it is to
put the theory of those who made the

551
00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:00.840
series in voice of the character who
would be the attorney. Yeah, that

552
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:04.239
' s what it looks like to
me. Then the prosecutor is no longer

553
00:42:04.719 --> 00:42:07.840
the prosecutor, he' s already
dead, because he' s a character

554
00:42:07.840 --> 00:42:10.719
over him. We can put the
hypothesis that it' s delusional, but

555
00:42:10.840 --> 00:42:15.800
that thinks who wrote the story to. It seems to me that it is

556
00:42:15.920 --> 00:42:22.039
not, which is what they want
to give in the end as an explanation

557
00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:25.159
that no one ever and in the
end they tell us that it is a

558
00:42:25.280 --> 00:42:29.119
case that is still open, that
is still open. It is then understood

559
00:42:29.199 --> 00:42:32.840
that Paola during her YouTube channel specifies
before each chapter that this is not a

560
00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:38.280
statement or anything to see and then
they also feel this unserious tone with which

561
00:42:38.320 --> 00:42:40.960
she takes it. And it'
s okay. And it' s fine,

562
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:45.480
of course, that it' s
clear to me that he learned and

563
00:42:45.480 --> 00:42:51.119
must have advised himself very well.
An interesting thing is also I insist,

564
00:42:51.199 --> 00:42:52.719
I don' t know who it
was, how it was, or anything.

565
00:42:53.400 --> 00:42:59.360
But Mario Usa contradicts himself because with
Adela Micha, because the first one

566
00:42:59.880 --> 00:43:05.320
says greetings, that we were great
friends, we were brothers, we loved

567
00:43:05.400 --> 00:43:07.519
each other, and Adela Micha in
an interview tells him no, because I

568
00:43:07.559 --> 00:43:10.960
no longer, I no longer went
to work and he was on the first

569
00:43:12.079 --> 00:43:15.280
floor, but I was his worker. I didn' t name these parties

570
00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:19.360
and those things that they say I
wasn' t ever exactly going. I

571
00:43:19.400 --> 00:43:23.119
don' t understand. Yes,
it has already changed in recent years a

572
00:43:23.119 --> 00:43:29.360
lot, a lot of the version
and yes, it does draw attention powerfully.

573
00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:34.039
That is not what Paola says,
for example, which clearly says that

574
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:37.960
they got on super well and if
Paco lived today, they would surely carry

575
00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:42.719
on and rather, heavy would not, above all, be carrying the same.

576
00:43:43.360 --> 00:43:45.519
And now, then, Mario says
no, that it was just a

577
00:43:45.559 --> 00:43:50.320
matter of work, that they did
spend many hours together, because they did

578
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:52.159
work a lot, but it wasn' t really a friendship. So all

579
00:43:52.199 --> 00:43:55.800
those things are like, well,
but before it' s funny, because

580
00:43:55.960 --> 00:44:00.400
Mario says they didn' t celebrate
or anything. But Benito ca this said

581
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:06.000
yes. But Jorge Gill said yes, but we' re going to Jorge

582
00:44:06.079 --> 00:44:12.360
in his book. But well,
Benito said yes. But Mario says no.

583
00:44:12.239 --> 00:44:14.639
No. I their business I didn' t know them and she'

584
00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:19.760
s their exact thing. Look,
Daniel says. I am impressed that the

585
00:44:19.800 --> 00:44:22.320
series blame the party they were running
for the Presidency of the Republic for making

586
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:27.719
the case It sounds strong, because
yes, that' s the interesting thing

587
00:44:27.760 --> 00:44:32.719
about the series that presents this as
a political crime and so as a political

588
00:44:32.760 --> 00:44:38.039
crime in the resolution of the case. Yes, evil totally handling the case.

589
00:44:40.199 --> 00:44:44.639
Yes, they present it like this, and that certainly is very strong,

590
00:44:45.199 --> 00:44:50.880
of course. But yes, I' m really telling you the part

591
00:44:50.960 --> 00:44:54.840
about what you' re saying,
put in the mouth of the attorney who

592
00:44:54.880 --> 00:45:00.840
' s gone, the version is
very shocking. It' s shocking and

593
00:45:00.840 --> 00:45:04.480
you present it in the last chapter. That' s, that' s

594
00:45:04.519 --> 00:45:07.920
a message from whoever produces that lupita
series. What strikes me is because Mario

595
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:12.199
that despotic against Boneta, if he
does Jorge Gilli, not against Luis Gerardo,

596
00:45:12.440 --> 00:45:16.760
if he interprets it and he is
a producer notice that yes, that

597
00:45:16.960 --> 00:45:22.159
denotes, of course, a contempt
for Jorge Gill, because Boneta tells him,

598
00:45:22.519 --> 00:45:25.079
after having done Luis Miguel, how
it is possible that you are going

599
00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:29.559
down to do Jorge gi But why
it would have to be less important.

600
00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:32.880
Jorge Hills is inside the story,
because he' s right next to the

601
00:45:32.880 --> 00:45:36.400
story. Now that what happens is
that he was on the other side of

602
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:42.760
the fence. Not exactly, exactly
says Jesus Samper and they threatened Mario with

603
00:45:42.840 --> 00:45:45.880
his well and it is very and
yes. I think we talked about it

604
00:45:45.920 --> 00:45:49.639
here before the show. Of course
I would, and that would be understood.

605
00:45:50.400 --> 00:45:52.639
It would be understood, of course, that it would be understood,

606
00:45:52.159 --> 00:45:54.840
if it wasn' t to blame
him, because yes, the thing is,

607
00:45:54.840 --> 00:45:59.519
yes. Exactly. I say this
last chapter is where it is.

608
00:46:00.159 --> 00:46:08.360
It seems to me that they want
to make sense of the climate of anguish

609
00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:15.480
and despair that already invaded by being
in a very dangerous situation. I was

610
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:20.119
very serious. I think I,
personally, think that being how this series

611
00:46:20.159 --> 00:46:23.719
has awakened, I think that Mario
Besares should not give interviews if we already

612
00:46:23.800 --> 00:46:29.079
saw that Brenda was the one who
was the face when it was all this,

613
00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:31.159
so that Mario didn' t turn
against it said because maybe he could

614
00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:36.159
have experienced a great confusion. But
I shouldn' t give interviews anymore.

615
00:46:37.800 --> 00:46:42.360
I don' t think, in
fact, that which was that I don

616
00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:45.119
' t remember anymore, because if
I' ve given many, but there

617
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:46.920
' s one that even headlined it. That' s what he says last

618
00:46:46.960 --> 00:46:50.920
time I don' t know if
it was with Adela. Also he says

619
00:46:51.039 --> 00:46:54.639
Mario Besares, is the last interview
I give on this subject. I don

620
00:46:54.719 --> 00:46:59.360
' t want to, I don' t remember, I don' t

621
00:46:59.400 --> 00:47:01.360
know if you guys went out,
if it' s Adela' s,

622
00:47:01.360 --> 00:47:01.360
or it' s one with Jordi
because it must be one of the two.

623
00:47:01.599 --> 00:47:06.519
And so you say the last time
I talk about this he doesn'

624
00:47:06.559 --> 00:47:10.199
t want to talk anymore. But
as the series appeared, he did return

625
00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:15.239
to him to give statements that he
was against and that he and his wife

626
00:47:15.239 --> 00:47:21.119
were reviewing the question of making one
of a lawsuit. I really would have

627
00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:24.559
gotten a statement, done something much
more discreet and not give interviews, because

628
00:47:24.960 --> 00:47:30.679
you really relive all this. Not
this speculation and what we just did with

629
00:47:30.719 --> 00:47:34.840
the little step and check it out
and it' s good. I mean,

630
00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:37.000
it was probably actually a foot.
Anyway, I don' t know

631
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:39.000
for the best, but then I' d already taken the painkiller. I

632
00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:43.559
don' t know what it means, but it does give you a lot

633
00:47:43.559 --> 00:47:45.679
of speculation. No. That'
s why the version again, in the

634
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:51.159
so- called procurator' s version, also says no. He didn'

635
00:47:51.320 --> 00:47:55.119
t have to be involved. He
got involved alone. He got involved alone.

636
00:47:55.239 --> 00:48:00.920
More and more. He got a
little pechito' cause it wasn'

637
00:48:00.039 --> 00:48:07.480
t just a coincidence. But when
you put those coincidences together, you put

638
00:48:07.559 --> 00:48:08.400
the case together like a gun,
because you see, he had clear eyes.

639
00:48:08.639 --> 00:48:13.760
It was a pco gala to her, for he and with a say

640
00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:17.119
I saw her with one who says
look, nothing more than how incredible that

641
00:48:17.719 --> 00:48:22.599
Paula has said also all his life. There' s no check- in

642
00:48:22.719 --> 00:48:27.239
and check- out from me,
not from that inmate. When they say

643
00:48:27.239 --> 00:48:29.840
I was going that, there'
s no way to say look in here

644
00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:32.159
you' re in and out,
but if there' s one that says

645
00:48:32.199 --> 00:48:36.880
yes, I saw her and with
that and with that already of course very

646
00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:38.599
gunned down, and I think to
see, I think they did, I

647
00:48:38.639 --> 00:48:42.760
mean, they put everything together when
the crime was on the other side,

648
00:48:42.960 --> 00:48:45.440
that is, maybe, Mario,
they didn' t even really have it

649
00:48:45.519 --> 00:48:49.079
they' ve told us here hey, because maybe they' d already followed

650
00:48:49.079 --> 00:48:50.599
it three days before, four days
before. Maybe I didn' t need

651
00:48:50.679 --> 00:48:54.119
Mario to do anything to make that
happen, but for the prosecutor, as

652
00:48:54.199 --> 00:48:58.639
he says in chapter six, because
I fell in pearls I fell perfect.

653
00:48:59.559 --> 00:49:02.159
Daniel asks, apparently, yes,
it gives rise to a lawsuit that Mario

654
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:06.199
and Brenda have filed that you think. I think not, precisely because of

655
00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:13.880
this, because the chapter where theory
is presented is mere speculation. And so

656
00:49:14.159 --> 00:49:20.159
and so it looks at the end
you see that the attorney Villarreal, because

657
00:49:20.280 --> 00:49:23.119
no more, is assuming, is
saying nothing. And, moreover, because

658
00:49:23.199 --> 00:49:28.280
all the time they are putting,
both at the beginning and at the end,

659
00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:34.719
that all this is a fiction based
on real facts and that the investigation

660
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:40.239
or the documents that are truthful,
because they are in the hands of the

661
00:49:40.239 --> 00:49:43.960
authorities. I don' t think
it exists, they' re in the

662
00:49:44.000 --> 00:49:45.840
authorities and that' s a case
that' s been opened up exactly.

663
00:49:45.199 --> 00:49:50.400
LookÉie, tell usÉlie Caballero. The series will have only six episodes

664
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:52.559
and is so far unknown. If
you open a second, no, not

665
00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:55.159
anymore. I think it' s
over there. Indeed, I and you

666
00:49:55.239 --> 00:50:00.400
' re right, but I don' t think there' s going to

667
00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:02.239
be a second, so yes.
My opinion is that it was the narco,

668
00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:06.199
yes, yes, of course there
was that, that is, of

669
00:50:07.119 --> 00:50:12.000
course the cause, that is,
the motive of the crime. It'

670
00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:15.719
s probably very clear who' s
guilty is what' s not. That

671
00:50:15.760 --> 00:50:19.599
' s what happens, that it
became a political crime and that' s

672
00:50:19.639 --> 00:50:22.840
why it wasn' t solved.
They intervened political forces and that made me

673
00:50:22.840 --> 00:50:25.000
not know. But go ahead,
I mean. I think the rest is

674
00:50:25.039 --> 00:50:30.800
yes, because apart from the end
is and like the triumph of justice that

675
00:50:30.920 --> 00:50:38.400
at that moment became the most important
media speaking was the release of Mario and

676
00:50:39.039 --> 00:50:45.719
Paola. That was what ended up
being in the foreground and not the answer

677
00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:50.239
and not the answer, because the
case is still open. No, ah

678
00:50:50.320 --> 00:50:52.239
well, no, because we already
found and it was this and it was

679
00:50:52.360 --> 00:50:57.000
like that, not but that everything
already stayed. What happiness Mario Baola has

680
00:50:57.079 --> 00:51:00.960
already made, they applaud him there. Lindas' s goes around like she

681
00:51:00.960 --> 00:51:01.800
' s going around. I don' t know if Paula de Veras came

682
00:51:01.800 --> 00:51:07.199
out like that or not, like
she was very happy moving her hair and

683
00:51:07.199 --> 00:51:09.400
so on. But, well,
that' s Don From there it'

684
00:51:09.599 --> 00:51:14.760
s like already since we arm public
opinion because it' s okay, and

685
00:51:14.760 --> 00:51:17.800
these two. But then exactly,
exactly, so look, this was the

686
00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:22.280
series, which is six chapters.
If you want to see her, she

687
00:51:22.320 --> 00:51:24.000
' s entertained, I think she' s well done, I think she

688
00:51:24.079 --> 00:51:30.119
' s very well done, very
well acted. And surely these last two

689
00:51:30.119 --> 00:51:34.559
chapters are going to give a lot
of what to talk about the coming week,

690
00:51:35.119 --> 00:51:38.480
because yes, yes, they leave
the case open, but they affirm

691
00:51:38.559 --> 00:51:45.599
a theory, even if it is
speculated, but strong, well, dear,

692
00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:47.760
Dr Amel, thanks to all those
who were now on Facebook, I

693
00:51:47.760 --> 00:51:50.360
put them on live. Sometimes I
don' t put them on, I

694
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:52.800
put them in pieces, but I
saw that they were interested in what.

695
00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:54.679
Well, they' re here.
Thank you so much for joining us,

696
00:51:54.800 --> 00:51:59.480
thanks to those who are also on
YouTube, thanks to all those who are

697
00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:01.800
on podcasts. Well, we'
ll see you soon, Dr Amel,

698
00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:07.280
next Monday. Well, if anything
happens, then we connect here, of

699
00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:10.920
course. Thank you all very much. Thank you, Lupita, thank you

700
00:52:10.920 --> 00:52:15.239
for joining us, thank you as
always for your company, so pleased with

701
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:17.920
your support, your comments and for
being here. Thank you, thank you,

702
00:52:19.000 --> 00:52:21.519
thank you to those who are here. I' ve been reading them

703
00:52:21.559 --> 00:52:24.599
all along and thank you so much. It says Gloria. Paula Erick Roar

704
00:52:24.639 --> 00:52:29.880
' s lawyer explains things well Look
for an interview with him. Ah well,

705
00:52:29.960 --> 00:52:32.280
let' s look, let'
s go find a lawyer if they

706
00:52:32.360 --> 00:52:36.679
recommend us and help us in that, we will gladly have him here to

707
00:52:36.760 --> 00:52:37.440
explain the whole thing to us.
Okay. Thank you very much. If

708
00:52:37.519 --> 00:52:43.440
you rest or have fun and do
what you want at the end is Friday

709
00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:46.920
and Friday is to enjoy it later. Guys, take care of yourselves,

710
00:52:47.079 --> 00:52:51.440
behave yourselves and take good care of
yourself.

