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I'm still waiting for you. Hi
everyone, thanks for listening to shoes,

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booths and tattoos. As always,
I'm Jess, I'm your host. Now,

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of course I have to give you
a quick warning for today's episode.

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We're gonna be talking about curses,
famous ones. In fact, if you're

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in the Facebook group, then you
know that you're going to be getting two

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episodes this week. That's because I
couldn't talk about famous curses without addressing them

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from a witch's perspective as well.
Curses. It is not these specific curses.

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But today this episode will talk about
some famous curses, things that are

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suspected to have happened because of them, and then the next episode we'll talk

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about curses, hexes, jinxes.
When it comes to witchcraft, I'm not

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going to sit there and tell you
basically you shouldn't curse, because I'd be

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a hypocrite. I'll talk about it
things that are involved with it in the

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next episode. This episode will be
appropriate for pretty much everyone. I might

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swear, so no guarantees there.
It will still be marked explicit, just

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because I do swear, and my
show is usually a little only explicit side.

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It's usually not super appropriate for children. At least not little ones.

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I will try to keep the swearing
to a minimum, especially since this is

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kind of one of those fun episodes
where we're talking about things that are stories.

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We won't talk about details of anybody's
death, we won't talk about any

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of those kind of hard topics.
These stories are just pretty much folklore.

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The other episode this week, I'll
tell you now it's going to talk about

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witchcraft, not this one, but
the next one. The title will be

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different, so you'll be able to
tell the difference between this one and the

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next one. This isn't really a
two parter because we're not really addressing the

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same thing. So if you're not
into the topics involving witchcraft, this episode

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will be for you. I'll give
another warning with the next episode as well.

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I am going to sit here and
record both back to back. I'm

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hoping to get them out the same
day, but I'm not planning on it,

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like I'm not betting on it,
simply because of everything going on.

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Kids are home and there is a
lot a lot to do in very short

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periods of time. With the kids
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So without further ado, let's talk
about some famous curses. Now, for

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this episode, I picked a few
curses that I was very either familiar with

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or had definitely heard of at some
point, and I found them fascinating.

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I found all curses fascinating, really, but there are some that are a

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bit more mysterious or make you wonder
a little bit more than others. Now,

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when I say we're going to talk
about famous curses, what's the first

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thing that pops into your head?
For me, it was the curse of

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the Pharaohs, the Tombs of the
Pharaohs, to be specific. Now,

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for this I did do the research
on these, and I did find certain

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articles that seemed to talk about the
curse in a way that broke it down,

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made sense, and covered it well. So first let's talk about one

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of the most in my opinion,
famous curses, the curse of King Tut's

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tomb. I found this article on
Smithsonian Journeys dot org. They broke the

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curse down in a way that really
made sense and told you everything without overdoing

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it or making it seem a little
too story Like, if that makes sense,

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we've all heard the story. The
curse of the Pharaoh is a strong

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belief that anyone who should disturb a
mummy or a pharaoh's tomb will be cursed.

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This commonly known belief was intended to
preserve the sanctity of the tombs in

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Egypt's Valley of the Kings. It
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but in the past century the curse
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in the case of King Tut's tomb. Some people chose to believe the curse

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is alive and well, while others
feel it can simply be explained by simple

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science. Archaeologist and egyptologist Howard Carter's
team was put under the microscope after opening

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the tomb of King Tut in common
as people wondered if the curse had truly

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affected the people who witnessed the tomb's
opening in nineteen twenty two. Here are

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a few of the people and pets
connected to the curse. There was Howard

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Carter's pet canary. The canary was
eaten by a cobra. Now this is

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significant to the curse and that a
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It's believed to be the royal cobra
and it was released in a Carter's home

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as a symbol of how the King
strikes at his enemies. This began local

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rumors that the curse had been released. Then there was Lord Carnivon no idea.

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If I'm saying that right, I'm
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lot in this episode. Now,
this Lord Carnivan was the sponsor of the

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King Tut dig. He ended up
dying from blood poisoning. He was bitten

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by a mosquito and accidentally cut the
bite while he was shaving. It then

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became infected, and he died of
blood poisoning. Some believe the mosquito bite

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was in the same location as the
lesion that King Tut had on his cheek,

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but since this guy, Lord Carnarvon, was buried with no formal autopsy,

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nobody could actually confirm this. Then
there's Sir Bruce Ingham. This is

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Carter's friend. His house burned down
twice. Bruce received paperweight made of mummified

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hand whether it's wrist adorned with a
scarab bracelet marked with cursed be He who

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moves my body to him shall come
fire, water and pestilence. No one

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has an explanation for this other than
bad luck. Carter himself didn't believe in

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the curse, and out of the
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opened, only eight died within twelve
years. Carter passed away at the age

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of sixty four of lymphoma in nineteen
thirty nine and was not one of the

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eight. Scientists do note that the
tomb may have been filled with a deadly

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fungus that had grown over the centuries
and was released when the tomb was opened.

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Air samples were taken from inside an
unopened sarcophagus through a drilled hole to

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test the air quality, and high
levels of ammonia, formaldehyde, and hydrogen

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sulfide were all around. However,
all of these would have a strong scent

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and people would have been repelled by
the odor. In the end, it

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is believed that it wasn't these particular
situations that fed the rumor of the curse,

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but rather the world's newspapers who found
they sold more papers saying that a

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terrible curse was unleashed the moment King
Tut's tomb was opened. Now, the

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stories of King Tut's tomb, I've
always heard that it was all of these

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people that died shortly after opening the
tomb. It's not really the case.

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Only eight people died in a span
of twelve years after opening the tomb.

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That's a very small percent and most
of them are explainable or could very well

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just be coincidence. People die every
day. If you put a group of

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fifty eight people together, a certain
percentage of the are going to become ill,

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are going to have accidents, and
are going to pass away. That

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doesn't mean that that group is cursed. All it means is shit happens.

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So unfortunately, in my opinion,
the curse of King Tut's Tomb was just

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a series of bad luck coincidences,
and really not in that short of a

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time span. What did you think
when you heard of the curse of King

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Tut's Tomb. Did you think the
same thing as me is that there were

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a bunch of incidences in a very
short period of time. Let me know

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what you thought. Now, a
lot of these curses can be chalked up

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to coincidence. However, there are
some that do make you think. There

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are some that we've had an understand
ending of that wasn't really the whole picture,

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Like in the case of King Tut's
too, But this one, this

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one caught my interest. This is
the Hungarian curse, the Curse of Toronto.

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Now this is from M. J. Mandokai, author dot WordPress dot

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com. I did find that this
was the best detailed account of the curse.

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There were some other ones, but
overall it they were just on the

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little iffy side. This one just
detailed everything the way I liked it.

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Now, this might be a new
one for you, it was for me.

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I didn't know about this legend or
this curse before. Hungarians, however,

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are ay familiar with the Curse of
Tehran. In popular language, it

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refers to the suffering of the Hungarian
people, either through inner strife and pessimism,

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or through natural catastrophe, lack of
independence from other nations, and wars.

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In general, the very mention of
it usually creates bitterness and sadness and

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Hungarian people. But where did the
belief in this curse come from? The

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most accepted explanation of the origin of
this curse is that a pagan shaman put

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a spell on the nation. Historically, Hungary was a pagan nation and that

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lasted up until a year one eighty. They were ruled by the House of

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our pad with the death of Giza, the ruler of Hungary. According to

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the tradition at the time, the
nation's leadership belonged to the oldest and most

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able male member of the ruler's larger
family. The most able leader at this

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point was Company. However, he
was not the son of Giza, and

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Guiza's son, Vac revolted against the
ancient tradition to claim the right to his

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father's throne. This dispute led to
a battle of the men against each other.

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The battle was not just significant for
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also for the spiritual fate of the
Hungarians. Company was deeply entrenched in his

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Pagan faith and was ready to defend
it against the Christian invasion. On the

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other hand, Vac was ready to
make a change and adopt the Christian faith

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to save Hungary from a devastating destruction
of the Christian army. The battle was

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fought, and the Pagan leader,
Vak became a Christian and took the name

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Istvan or Stephen, and became King
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The Pagans lost, and they weren't
happy. They didn't want to lose

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their faith for political reasons. As
a result, according to the legend,

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a powerful shaman officially put a curse
or a malicious spell on the new Christian

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nation for a thousand years. He
is said to have said, may you

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not live in agreement? For a
thousand years? The Hungarian nation was to

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suffer because of the official adaptation of
Christianity. There is a disagreement whether the

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shaman was targeting the Christian leadership or
the Hungarian people, or both, but

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one thanks for certain. The Hungarian
people believe that they have suffered a great

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deal of misfortune in the past thousand
years, beginning with the leadership of King

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Stephen. Of course, some people
say that it began with him, but

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others cite alternate theories for the birth
of the curse. Whatever the origin is,

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the belief in the curse is very
strong on Hungarians. The good news

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is that the thousand years is up. Ironically, there has been a resurgence

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of the old pagan faith over the
past fifteen twenty years. The new theory

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is that maybe the shaman spirit that
lingers around could have seen that the Hungarians

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didn't really lose their old faith,
tradition, or culture, or maybe the

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curses time was just up. Of
course, these answers do require the belief

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in the power of the initial curse
and curses in general. Now, when

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you look at the history of Hungary, they've had a lot of shit happen

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over the past thousand years, as
any country would, but they've been pretty

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unlucky. They also had one of
the highest suicide rates in the world for

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centuries. Could this be due to
a curse or could it just be because

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of the economic status or the location
where they were fighting, how they were

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fighting, who they were fighting,
and what. It's kind of up to

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you to decide. If you want
to look more into this, you can

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look up the Hungarian Curse or the
Curse of Tyron. You can find places

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that do detail different events that take
place in Hungary over this thousand years,

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but you can find similar things that
also take place in a lot of countries,

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especially over the course of a thousand
years. Now, this next one

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is when most of you are probably
at least somewhat familiar with. This is

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the curse of James Dean's Little Bastard. I did find this at gelotnik dot

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com. No idea if that's how
you say it or not, But this

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detailed it pretty well. Now,
while we think of the Porsche five fifty

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Spider, the first thing that comes
to mind is James Dean. Since James

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Dean's death in nineteen fifty five,
the Porsche fifty Spider has become infamous as

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the car that killed him. When
we were young, we all watched that

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Unsolved Mysteries episode on the Curse of
the James Dean Porsche. These stories not

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only made the famous car seem more
like Christine than Porsche, the downright scared

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us. We decided to share some
stories with you. Now. Filming Rebel

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without a Cause, James Dean had
upgraded from the three fifty six to the

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five fifty Spider and decided that he
wanted to make it uniquely his Dean called

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upon George Barris of movie car fame
to customize the Porsche. He gave it

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tartan seats, two red stripes over
the rear wheels, and plastered the number

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one thirty on its doors, hood
and engine cover. The name Bastard was

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given by Dean language coach Bill Hickman
and was later painted on the car by

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master pinstriper Dean Jeffries. On September
twenty third of nineteen fifty five, James

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Dean met actor Alec Guinness outside of
a restaurant and had him take a look

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at the spider. Alec told James
that the car had a sinister appearance,

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and then told him if you get
in that car, you'll be found dead

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in it by this time next week. Seven days later, James Dean would

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be killed in his beloved Little Bastard. That Little Bastard not only killed James

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Dean, but killed and maimed others
who came in contact with it, causing

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many to say the damn thing was
cursed. George Barris, who customized the

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five fifty, originally bought the wrecked
carcass of Little Bastard for twenty five hundred

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dollars. Soon after it slipped off
of its trailer and broke a mechanic's leg.

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Not long after, Barris sold the
engine and drive train to Troy McHenry

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and William Eckrid. While the two
were both racing against one another the cars

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that had parts from Little Bastard.
McHenry lost control and hit a tree,

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killing him instantly, and Eckrid was
seriously injured when his car suddenly locked up

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and rolled over while going into a
turn. Barris still had two tires from

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the Spider which were untouched in Deane's
accident. He sold them, and not

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long after both of them blew out, simultaneously causing the new owner to run

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off of the road. Barris had
kept the car in his possession without the

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sold parts, of course, and
it caught the attention of two would be

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thieves. One of the thieves arms
was torn open trying to steal the steering

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wheel, while the other was injured
trying to remove the bloodstained Tartan seat.

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Due to all the incidents involving Little
Bastard, Barris decided to hide the car,

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but was convinced by the California Highway
Patrol to lend the cursed heap to

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a highway safety exhibit. The first
exhibit was unsuccessful, as the garage that

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housed the car caught fire and burned
to the ground. Mysteriously, the car

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suffered virtually no damage from the fire. The next exhibition, at a local

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high school ended abruptly when the car
fell off of its display and broke a

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nearby student's hip. The continued when
the Little Bastard was being transported when the

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truck carrying the car lost control and
caused the driver to fall out and somehow

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get crushed by the car after it
fell off the back. The car fell

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off of two more transport trucks while
traveling on the freeway, fortunately didn't injure

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anyone. During those two times,
the HP decided that it had enough of

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Little Bastard, and while transporting the
car to Barris, the car mysteriously vanished

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and hasn't been seen since. There
are stories that a single piece of Little

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Bastard resides at the Historic Auto Attractions
Museum in Illinois. Are you brave enough

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to go and find out? I
have no idea if that's actually true or

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not. I don't know if there's
a piece of Little Bastar or at a

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museum. Oh, there's a bunch
of replies on this article. I'm not

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sure if this one's true. It's
just from b z R. Oh.

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This is back in two thousand and
nine. It says it was built from

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the most evil parts of the most
evil cars in all of the world.

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The steering wheel was from Hitler's Steph
car, the left turn signal from Charles

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Manson's Volkswagen. The windshield wipers from
the car that played Night Rider. Wait,

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come on, that is just stupid. First, this was a new

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car, right, I mean,
I don't know anything really about the car,

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how it was built, nothing like
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James Dean brought a brand new car. They weren't going to use parts from

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other cars. That's just that's just
flat out jpid. There are a lot

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of comments on here talking about the
speed that James Dean was going when he

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died, and some say that he
was going seventy miles an hour. Others

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say that it was assumed that he
was speeding at the time, but it

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was later proven that he wasn't that
it was just the car that was cursed.

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I don't know, none of this
is really helpful. These are just

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these comments and everything are just stupid
people trolling. Now let's move on to

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our next curse. This is when
most likely all of you were going to

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be familiar with. That's the Kennedy
curse. Now. This popped up again

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after the death of another Kennedy in
twenty nineteen. I did find this article

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USA today dot Com. They did
a good job detailing the people that have

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died because of the Kennedy Curse,
as well as the most recent one,

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which is sayoorsy. I think that's
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sorry, but she recently passed away. She was the granddaughter of Robert F.

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Kennedy. So we're going right from
this article USA Today dot com.

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The Kennedy family is once again in
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the granddaughter of Robert F. Kennedy. The twenty two year old died

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at the Kennedy Compound in hyannis Port, Massachusetts, on Thursday. Her family

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confirmed her death in a statement to
the Associated Press, saying, our hearts

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are shattered by the loss of our
beloved Sayoorsy. This isn't the first time

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the Kennedys were forced to say goodbye
to a family member too soon before their

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time. The Kennedy family history is
marred by events such as plane crashes,

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World War Two, combat, alcohol
and drug addiction, and various other accidents

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that have compounded into the so called
Kennedy Curse. Let's talk about some of

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those people who have fell victim to
the Kennedy curse. There was Joseph P.

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Kennedy Junior. This is the oldest
brother of John F. Kennedy and

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Robert F. Kennedy, the two
we know the best. Joseph P.

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Kennedy Junior died in a plane crash
in August of nineteen forty four. He

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was a naval pilot and he was
flying off the coast of Normandy, France,

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while serving with the US N eighty
in World War Two. Joe,

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who was groomed by his father to
be the politician of the family, was

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only twenty nine when he died.
He received many postumous awards, including the

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Air and Navy Cross for Heroism.
The Navy commissioned a Gearing class destroyer named

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after him, the USS Joseph P. Kennedy Junior DD eight fifty, which

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saw action in the Korean War.
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thirty fifth President of the United States, was assassinated in Dallas in nineteen sixty

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three. He was only forty six. A few hours after the president was

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fatally shot, police arrested Harvey Lee
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As a popular politician, jfk served
three terms in the House and then was

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elected to the US Senate in nineteen
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White House in nineteen sixty one and
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He did many things during his short
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as create the Peace Corps and jumpstart
Man's mission to go to the Moon at

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the height of the Cold War with
Russia. Next there's Robert F. Aka

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Bobby Kennedy, brother to John F. Kennedy. Bobby was gunned down in

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Los Angeles in nineteen sixty eight after
winning California's presidential primary against then Senator Eugene

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McCarthy and Lyndon B. Johnson's vice
president, Hubert Humphrey. He started out

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as a Senate aide to Republican Joe
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Later in his political career, he
served as Attorney General in the administration

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of his brother, Reverend Martin Luther
King Junior, was assassinated in Memphis,

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Tennessee, only two months before Bobby
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Kennedy, Jr. The former president's
son was killed in nineteen ninety nine when

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he crashed his airplane into the Atlantic
Ocean off Martha's Vineyard. His wife Caroline

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Bassett and her sister Lauren Bassett were
also on board. Then there's Mary Richardson

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Kennedy, the wife of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Died by suicide in

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twenty twelve. Then there's David Anthony
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fourth of Ethel and Robert Kennedy's eleven
children. David Anthony Kennedy struggled with

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alcohol and drug addiction. He was
found dead in nineteen eighty four at a

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Palm Beach hotel. The young Kennedy
had been in Palm Beach to visit his

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grandmother in family matriarch, ninety three
year old Rose Kennedy. The Washington Post

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reported at the time that Senator Edward
Ted Kennedy eulogized his nephew during a fifty

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minute private service. Then there's Michael
Kennedy, son of the late Senator Robert

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F. Kennedy, was killed in
a skiing accident during a family outing in

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Aspen, Colorado, in nineteen ninety
eight. A year before his death,

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he had admitted to an affair with
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Forcing his brother, Joseph p.
Kennedy, the second to abandon his

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run for governor of Massachusetts. Michael
was the second of eleven children born to

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Robert and Ethel Kennedy to die under
tragic circumstances, with his brother David dying

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in Florida in nineteen eighty four of
a drug over produce. Then there's Edward

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Kennedy, the senator from Massachusetts died
at the age of seventy seven after battling

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brain cancer in two thousand and nine, the same kind of cancer that killed

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his good friend, Senator John McCain
nine years later. He was also involved

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in the Chappaquittic incident. This is
an incident in which Edward ted Kennedy,

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then a Senator, drove off of
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He did survive, but his twenty
eight year old passenger, Mary Joe

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Kopechni, was killed. Then there's
say Orsy. She was the only child

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of Courtney Kennedy Hill, the fifth
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Her father is Paul Michael Hill,
one of four falsely convicted in the nineteen

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seventy four Irish Republican Army bombings of
two pubs. The Kennedy Curse has been

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talked about and been around for a
very long time. In reality, this

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is a very powerful family. There's
going to be more people that want you

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out of the way the more powerful
you are. No, I'm not saying

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that all of these people were killed, but a couple of them were.

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We know that, we know they
were assassinated. They were a very politically

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involved and they are a very influential
family. Do you think the Kennedy's are

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actually victim to a curse? Do
you know more about this than I do

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and know some things that maybe would
lean more towards curse more towards something else.

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Let me know, But for now
we're going to move on to the

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next one. Now, this one
could possibly be an episode all it's There

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are a few podcasts out there that
have covered this as an episode, same

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with quite a few of these curses, of course, because there is a

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lot of information out there. MS
Now this one, I'm personally not sure

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if it's a curse really or something
else. We're going to talk about the

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twenty seven Club. I found this
article at Society of Rock dot com.

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Celebrity deaths are always sad, dying
young is even more tragic and apparently a

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mysterious statistical anomaly among rock stars.
The concept for the notorious twenty seven club

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came to haunt the public consciousness in
the nineteen seventies when rock stars Brian Johnson,

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Jimmy Hendrix, Alan Wilson, Janice
Joplin, and Jim Morrison all tragically

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died within a space of three years, in all at the tender age of

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twenty seven. When Kurt Cobain committed
suicide when he was also twenty seven years

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old, it was his mother who
acknowledged the connection to the infamous death club

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following her son's demise, saying,
now he's gone and joined that stupid club.

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I told him not to join that
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questions have surfaced on whether the age
of twenty seven is a curse for rock

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stars or just an unfortunate coincidence.
Here are ten rock stars who coincidentally or

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mysteriously died at the age of twenty
seven. If you want to hear a

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really really good podcast about Kurt Cobain's
death, go to Mysterious Circumstances look through

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his episodes and go back to when
he covered Kurt Cobain, because that is

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an amazing, amazing episode. Justin
always covers all of those things so in

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depth. It's amazing. So if
you want to learn more about Kurt Cobain

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and his death and why I went
after that, go listen to him.

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Maybe it's something I'll cover in the
future, but I don't honestly think I

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can do better than that. So
the first one we have here for the

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twenty seventh Club is Robert Johnson.
This is one that could very well be

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an episode of his own. Maybe
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Robert Johnson died August thirteenth of nineteen
thirty eight. He is one of

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the earliest members of the twenty seven
Club. Ragtime blues guitarist and singer songwriter

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Robert Johnson has a haunting myth surrounding
his untimely death. The real cause of

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his death is declared unknown, but
there are several theories about it. One

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theory claims that Johnson was murdered by
a jealous husband who poisoned his whiskey after

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the blues singer flirted with his wife
at the country dance witnesses stated that Johnson

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began feeling ill within a course of
three days and eventually died in a state

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of severe pain. However, there
is a popular legend which claims that his

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song Crossroad Blues speaks of the singer's
encounter with the devil at a crossroads where

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he is said to have sold his
soul. The legend tells that the story

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of Johnson taking up his guitar to
a crossroad by the Dockery plantation in Mississippi,

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where he was met by a large
black man, the devil, who

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gave him the musical ability to become
famous and successful in exchange for his soul,

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which the devil claimed when the King
of the Delta Blues was twenty seven

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years old. This is a popular
theory as well behind the twenty seven Club

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in general, that these people that
do become famous and that tragically die at

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the age of twenty seven sell their
souls for fame, talent, and fortune.

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Sometimes talent is a little debated,
but it's a very popular theory that

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I wouldn't say is exactly a curse. That's more repeat behavior. Is it

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worth it to be famous for a
few years and then die when Now,

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let's talk about the next person on
our list for the twenty seven club Brian

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Jones. He died July third,
nineteen sixty nine. A little known fact

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about the Rolling Stones maybe that it
wasn't frontman Mick Jagger who formed the iconic

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rock band, It was English musician
Brian Jones. The band's bassist Bill Wyman

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said about Jones, he formed the
band, he chose the members, he

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named the band, he chose the
music we played. He got us gigs,

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very influential, very important, and
then slowly lost it. He was

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highly intelligent and just kind of wasted
it and blew it all away. Unfortunately,

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due to Jones's continued drug abuse,
which affected his relations with the other

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members, he was fired from the
band in June of eighteen sixty nine.

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There was barely a month after that
he was found dead at the bottom of

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his swimming pool, having apparently drowned
while intoxicated from alcohol and drugs. The

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coroner's official report declared that Jones had
a death by misadventure. Ironically, fellow

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rock artist Jimmy Hendricks publicly dedicated a
song to Jones, while The Doors lead

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singer Jim Morrison published a poem titled
owde to La while thinking of Brian Jones

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deceased. Hendricks and Morrison are also
part of the twenty seventh Club. Both

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died within the following two years after
Jones's death. The next person we have

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on this twenty seventh Club is Alan
blind Owl Wilson, who died September third

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of nineteen seventy. One of the
precursory artists to begin the streak of rock

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musicians consecutive deaths at twenty seven in
the seventies, Canned Heat singer Alan blind

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Al Wilson was found dead on a
hillside near his bandmate Bob Heights home into

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Panga Canyon, California. Autopsy reports
identified acute barbiturate intoxication as his cause of

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death. Months prior to his body
being found, he unsuccessfully attempted suicide by

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driving his car off of a freeway. He was hospitalized after the incident and

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was also checked in for depression.
He was released after only a few weeks.

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With his death involving an overdose on
drugs, It was never clarified whether

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it was an accent or if it
was suicide, but he left no note

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indicating that it was a suicide.
Next, we have Jimmy Hendrix. Jimmy

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Hendrix died September eighteenth of nineteen seventy, only a year after his friend Brian

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Jones's tragic end, In just two
weeks after Alan Wilson died. Legendary rock

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guitarist Jimmie Hendrix also met his death
at the same age as Jones and Wilson,

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twenty seven. His death also has
a lot of speculation surrounding it,

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disputing whether it was suicide or an
accident. He was found dead in his

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London apartment by his girlfriend, Monica
Denoman. The cause of death stated in

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his obituary states asphyxiation after choking on
his own vomit due to barbiturate intoxication.

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Jimmy Hendrix was found to have overdosed
on Denoman's Vesperax sleeping pills. The drug

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ingestion was followed by getting drunk on
wine with his girlfriend the night before.

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Many speculators think Hendrix's death may have
been a suicide after discovering the poem he

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wrote the night before his death,
titled The Story of Life. The chilling

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last stanza of Hendrix's final poem reads
the story of life is quicker than the

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wink of an eye. The story
of love is hello and goodbye until we

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meet again. After Jimmie Hendrix,
Janis Joplin followed suit. Janis Joplin died

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October fourth of nineteen seventy. It's
tragedy upon tragedy in the world of rock

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music when female rock legend Janis Joplin
was found dead in her Hollywood hotel room

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only sixteen days after Jimi Hendrix's death. Fool Tilt Boogie road manager John Cook

404
00:43:00.880 --> 00:43:07.800
found the singer dead in her hotel
room on the floor. Cook drove to

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Joplin's hotel room after producer Paul Rothschild
informed him that she failed to show up

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for her recording session. Janice's official
cause of death was heroin overdose compounded with

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alcohol. Prior to her death,
Janice was set to meet up with her

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fiance Seth Morgan and her former lover
Peggy Cassara on October two, when they

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both failed to show up to keep
her company. Janice was said to have

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been significantly saddened as she instructed the
hotel front desk clerk to hold off all

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her calls thereafter, it was said
that this event of depression led her to

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overdose on potent heroine. Then there's
Jim Morrison. He died July third,

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nineteen seventy one, exactly two years
after his friend Brian Jones was found dead

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in a swimming pool. The Doors
lead singer Jim Morrison was ironically found dead

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in almost the same way on the
same day and the same age as Jones.

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Morrison's girlfriend Pamela Corson, found his
lifeless body on the morning of July

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third, nineteen seventy one, inside
the bathtub of his Paris apartment. Sam's

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autopsy, the coroner released the singer's
official cause of death to be heart failure

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due to heroin overdose combined with alcohol
ingestion. The night before his death,

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Morrison was reported to have vomited blood
before getting into the bath of which he

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never got out of. In another
ironic turn of events, girlfriend Pamela Corson

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also died of a heroin overdose three
years after Morrison at guess what age Yeah,

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also twenty seven. The chillingly strange
similarities between the deaths of two influential

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rock artists Jones and Morrison remained unexplained. Next, there's Ron Pigpen mccarnin.

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He died March eighth of nineteen seventy
three. Ron Pigpen mccarnin's tragic fate is

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a twisted irony connected to the name
of his band, Grateful Dead, which

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he himself came up with. The
proficient blues organ and harmonica player was a

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heavy alcoholic as much as he was
a heavyweight in the world of blues rock.

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While his other bandmates turned to psychedelic
drugs, Pigpen didn't. Instead,

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00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:02.079
he abused alcohol, which led to
his severe liver problems at the very young

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age of just twenty four. His
damaged liver eventually got in the way of

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his career when he was forced to
pull out of touring in nineteen seventy due

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to his ill health. He later
recovered enough to reunite with his band in

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nineteen seventy one until nineteen seventy two. His last performance was a Grateful Dead

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00:46:23.559 --> 00:46:29.719
concert at the Hollywood Bowl in June
of nineteen seventy two. His body finally

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00:46:29.760 --> 00:46:34.559
gave in when he died of internal
hemorrhaging caused by alcohol abuse in nineteen seventy

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00:46:34.599 --> 00:46:44.079
three at the age of twenty seven. Then there's Pete ham who died April

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twenty fourth of nineteen seventy five.
They could have been the next Beatles.

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00:46:50.800 --> 00:46:55.559
Nineteen seventies rock band Bad Finger enjoyed
a steady rise in the industry, but

440
00:46:55.719 --> 00:47:04.039
suffered a painful downfall. Badfinger's lead
singer and guitarist, Pete Hamm was not

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00:47:04.159 --> 00:47:07.960
able to handle the crash of his
band in career when he took his own

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00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:10.280
life by hanging himself in the garage
of his home in Surrey, England.

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Due to conflicts between him and the
Beatles label Apple Records, Badfinger ended up

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00:47:20.280 --> 00:47:22.360
on a sour end of rock and
roll deal when they were not able to

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00:47:22.400 --> 00:47:30.960
release an album or tour. The
downward spiral continued with countless internal and financial

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00:47:31.000 --> 00:47:37.159
woes and feuds with the band's business
manager, Stan Polly. He did mention

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00:47:37.280 --> 00:47:43.320
Polly in his suicide note, saying
I will take him with me. Pete

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00:47:43.320 --> 00:47:49.320
Hamm died just three days shy of
his twenty eighth birthday, leaving a pregnant

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00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:57.199
girlfriend who gave birth to their daughter
just one month after his death. Then

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00:47:57.239 --> 00:48:04.800
there's Gary Thaine, who died December
eighth, nineteen seventy five, before being

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00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:09.679
the third bassist for the English progressive
hard rock band Uriah Heap. Gary Thaine

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00:48:09.760 --> 00:48:15.320
served as a bassist and guitarist for
the Kief Hartley Band, who opened for

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00:48:15.440 --> 00:48:20.039
Uriah Heap in nineteen seventy one until
they broke up in nineteen seventy two.

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In nineteen seventy five, Thaine met
his demise at twenty seven, due to

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00:48:25.719 --> 00:48:32.880
an overdose on heroin. His drug
addiction came strangely after he was electrocuted on

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00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:39.320
stage while his band was playing at
a concert in Dallas, Texas. After

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00:48:39.360 --> 00:48:45.360
his freak accident, he developed various
health problems that were apparently side effects of

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00:48:45.400 --> 00:48:50.199
being electrocuted. He then turned to
abusing drugs to cope with his health issues.

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00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:54.239
He was let go from Uriah Heap
only months before he was found dead

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00:48:54.280 --> 00:49:00.440
in his England apartment in December of
nineteen seventy five. His official cause of

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00:49:00.480 --> 00:49:07.400
death was respiratory failure due to heroin
overdose. The last one we have here

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00:49:08.199 --> 00:49:15.000
is, of course Kurt Cobain.
There are many more that are in this

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00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:22.119
club as well. Kurt Cobain is
perhaps one of the most famous, at

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00:49:22.199 --> 00:49:25.760
least for my generation and those a
little older than me. As well.

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00:49:29.440 --> 00:49:34.480
Perhaps the most popular Hall of Famer
in the twenty seven Club, Nirvana frontman

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00:49:34.639 --> 00:49:40.000
Kurt Cobain died of a self inflicted
gunshot wound to his head. Cobain's tragic

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00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:46.840
suicide reawakened the curiosity and fascination surrounding
the frequent similarity of rock stars meeting their

468
00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:52.960
deaths. At the age of twenty
seven, Kurt Cobain, who was debbed

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00:49:52.960 --> 00:49:57.599
the King of Grunge, struggled with
his fame, his public persona, and

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00:49:57.760 --> 00:50:00.920
heroin addiction as he battled to Russian
during the peak of his band's career.

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His drug abuse led to various chronic
illnesses that resulted frequent trips to the hospital

472
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:13.960
while he was on tour. Days
before an electrician found him dead in his

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00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:20.760
Seattle home, Kirk Obain escaped from
a drug rehabilitation facility in Los Angeles by

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climbing up a six foot tall fence
and taking a taxi to the airport.

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00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:30.440
His hospital tag was still on his
arm when his body was found. A

476
00:50:30.519 --> 00:50:35.719
suicide note addressed to his childhood imaginary
friend Boda, was found beside his body,

477
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:39.920
along with bottles of alcohol and traces
of heroin. His note ended with

478
00:50:39.960 --> 00:50:45.519
a message to his wife, Courtney
Glove and his two year old daughter Frances

479
00:50:45.559 --> 00:50:51.039
Beam, saying, please keep going
Courtney, for Francis, for her life,

480
00:50:51.159 --> 00:50:53.559
which will be so much happier without
me. I love you. I

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00:50:53.679 --> 00:51:00.760
love you now. Like I said, if you want to learn more about

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00:51:00.920 --> 00:51:05.239
Kurt Cobain's death, how it could
have been a suicide, maybe wasn't a

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00:51:05.280 --> 00:51:10.519
suicide, go listen. Go listen
to Justin's episode Mysterious Circumstances, talking about

484
00:51:10.559 --> 00:51:15.760
Kurt Cobain and his mysterious death,
the things that add up, things that

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00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:22.960
don't add up. Listen for now, we're going to move on to another

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00:51:23.280 --> 00:51:30.239
kind of curse. This one's a
little bit different. We're going to talk

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00:51:30.239 --> 00:51:37.039
about two more curses in this episode. This is one that is kind of

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00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:44.960
relevant today. This is two Comes
His Curse or the Curse of Typical New

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00:51:45.840 --> 00:51:52.320
Now. This I'm just taking from
Wikipedia. It had the most concise information

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00:51:52.719 --> 00:52:00.719
in one spot that didn't derail or
get political, and we don't want that.

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00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:06.199
We don't want anything to get political
here. The Curse of Tippecanou,

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00:52:06.480 --> 00:52:13.639
also known as Decomes's Curse or the
twenty year Presidential Curse, is a pattern

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00:52:13.679 --> 00:52:16.800
of deaths in office of presidents in
the United States elected in years that are

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00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:23.679
evenly divisible by twenty, from William
Henry Harrison, elected in eighteen forty,

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00:52:24.119 --> 00:52:30.039
through John F. Kennedy elected in
nineteen sixty. Ronald Reagan was elected in

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00:52:30.119 --> 00:52:37.360
nineteen eighty and was wounded by gunshot, but he survived, as did George

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00:52:37.400 --> 00:52:46.519
W. Bush in two thousand.
Interestingly enough, every president since William Henry

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00:52:46.559 --> 00:52:53.880
Harrison back in eighteen forty that has
served in a year divisible by twenty has

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00:52:53.920 --> 00:53:01.000
either been assassinated, impeached, survived
an assassination attempt, pumped. There has

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00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:06.840
been some kind of shit, I
guess, is the best way to put

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00:53:06.880 --> 00:53:13.400
it, going on every twenty years. We're coming up on it this year.

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00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:19.960
We're in twenty twenty. This has
been almost two hundred years now that

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00:53:20.000 --> 00:53:24.480
this thing has been going on.
So let's talk about the curse a little

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00:53:24.519 --> 00:53:31.119
bit. William Henry Harrison was elected
president in eighteen forty, but he died

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00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:37.679
in eighteen forty one, just a
month after being sworn in the name.

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00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:44.239
The Curse of Tippecanoe is derived from
the Battle of Tippecanoe in eighteen eleven when

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00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:49.239
Harrison negotiated the eighteen o nine Treaty
of Fort Wayne, in which the Native

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00:53:49.239 --> 00:53:54.760
Americans ceded large tracts of land to
the government. The treaty further arranged Shawnee

509
00:53:54.840 --> 00:54:00.760
leader to Kumsa and brought government soldiers
and Indians to the brink of war.

510
00:54:00.239 --> 00:54:07.280
In a period known as Tecumsa's War, Tecumsa and his brother organized a group

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00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:12.880
of Native American tribes to resist the
westward expansion of the United States. In

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00:54:12.960 --> 00:54:17.159
eighteen eleven, succumbs his forces attacked
Harrison's army in the Battle of Tippecanoe,

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00:54:17.840 --> 00:54:24.800
earning Harrison's fame in the nickname Old
Tippecanoe. In an account of the aftermath

514
00:54:24.840 --> 00:54:32.639
of the battle, Tukumsa's brother,
shit Tenscatawa, supposedly set a curse against

515
00:54:32.719 --> 00:54:37.840
Harrison. This is the basis of
the curse legend, even though it was

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00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:46.679
Richard Mentor Johnson who was said to
be the man who killed Tecumsa. Okay,

517
00:54:46.760 --> 00:54:52.000
so, since nineteen sixty three,
no president has died in office.

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00:54:52.480 --> 00:55:02.519
However, there were assassination attempts on
both presidents after that first eighteen forty We

519
00:55:02.599 --> 00:55:08.480
have William Henry Harrison. He was
in his first term and he died of

520
00:55:08.559 --> 00:55:15.840
typhoid. Then we have Abraham Lincoln, who was in his second term.

521
00:55:15.840 --> 00:55:22.159
He was assassinated April fifteenth, eighteen
sixty five. That is an odd one.

522
00:55:22.559 --> 00:55:30.039
It's not exactly divisible, but he
was elected in eighteen sixty in a

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00:55:30.119 --> 00:55:36.559
year that was divisible by twenty.
Then we have James A. Garfield eighteen

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00:55:36.599 --> 00:55:42.880
eighty, he was assassinated in eighteen
eighty one. William McKinley nineteen hundred,

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00:55:44.000 --> 00:55:50.320
assassinated in nineteen o one, Warren
G. Harding nineteen twenty. He had

526
00:55:50.360 --> 00:55:57.079
a heart attack. In nineteen twenty
three, Franklin D. Roosevelt had a

527
00:55:57.159 --> 00:56:02.239
cerebral hemorrhage. He was elected in
ninety and he died in nineteen forty five.

528
00:56:05.239 --> 00:56:09.039
Then there's John F. Kennedy who
was assassinated. He was elected in

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00:56:09.159 --> 00:56:15.960
nineteen sixty and then died in nineteen
sixty three. Nineteen eighty, Ronald Reagan,

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00:56:16.920 --> 00:56:22.719
he did survive an assassination attempt,
but he did not die in office.

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00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:29.079
Then there was George W. Bush
who also survived an assassination attempt.

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00:56:30.320 --> 00:56:37.119
He was elected in two thousand,
So every twenty years from eighteen forty through

533
00:56:37.199 --> 00:56:45.239
two thousand, every single president has
had some kind of misfortune, died in

534
00:56:45.360 --> 00:56:54.400
office, been assassinated, or survived
an assassination attempt. This might possibly be

535
00:56:54.559 --> 00:57:00.639
due to better precautions when it comes
to the presidents, better safe team measures.

536
00:57:01.960 --> 00:57:07.360
But every president that's been elected in
years divisible by twenty, such as

537
00:57:07.440 --> 00:57:14.000
our year coming up twenty twenty,
has suffered either death or an assassination attempt

538
00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:19.400
in some way. What do you
think is going to happen this election?

539
00:57:22.519 --> 00:57:28.679
Do you think this curse of the
presidents might continue? We'll have to wait

540
00:57:28.719 --> 00:57:38.880
and see. It's possible that maybe
Ronald Reagan surviving his assassination attempt broke it.

541
00:57:42.679 --> 00:57:47.960
But George Bush still survived an assassination
attempt as well, he didn't get

542
00:57:47.960 --> 00:57:52.199
shot. That I don't think,
at least I don't really remember. In

543
00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:55.239
twenty I was ten, by the
way, so I didn't really pay attention,

544
00:57:57.239 --> 00:58:00.800
and I haven't looked back at it
since then. We'll have to wait

545
00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:06.079
and see what this election kind of
brings. If there's an assassination attempt,

546
00:58:07.159 --> 00:58:13.159
if the person dies in office,
we'll have to wait and see. I'm

547
00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:20.239
willing to bet because of this pattern
that maybe maybe something's gonna happen. Whether

548
00:58:20.280 --> 00:58:24.320
it's an assassination, attempt, natural
death, who knows. We'll have to

549
00:58:24.360 --> 00:58:30.000
wait and see. It would be
great to actually kind of discuss this and

550
00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:36.079
see what people's thoughts are in like
the Facebook group or even on the Facebook

551
00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:38.280
page or anywhere. Message me,
let me know what you think about it.

552
00:58:38.960 --> 00:58:45.039
Please do not get political, No
stupid little remarks battle if Trump gets

553
00:58:45.039 --> 00:58:49.199
elected it, I don't want to
hear it. I don't own to hear

554
00:58:49.280 --> 00:58:52.719
it for any candidate. I'm not
political. I don't want to hear that.

555
00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:59.599
Okay, So keep it non political. Just theories on what's going to

556
00:58:59.639 --> 00:59:05.559
happen because of this pattern that we've
seen. Let me know what your theories

557
00:59:05.599 --> 00:59:12.360
are. But for now, we're
going to move on to our final curse.

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00:59:13.639 --> 00:59:19.519
This one I picked specifically for my
uncle Keith. My uncle Keith just

559
00:59:19.599 --> 00:59:24.960
started listening to the podcast, and
I know his love of horror movies.

560
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There are a lot of horror movies
that are said to be cursed or troubled

561
00:59:31.719 --> 00:59:37.440
by paranormal activity, such as The
Omen, The Exorcist, and this one

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00:59:37.480 --> 00:59:45.920
we're going to cover Poltergeist. Now. I did get this one from the

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00:59:45.960 --> 00:59:49.920
thirteenth Floor dot TV. This just
had the most concise information on one's boot.

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00:59:51.920 --> 00:59:58.920
There is a rumored curse surrounding the
Poultergeist movies. The Poultergeist curse began

565
00:59:59.480 --> 01:00:07.239
with scale lots of them. The
Spielberg production horror flick spawned two sequels,

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01:00:07.280 --> 01:00:12.239
a reboot, and countless bad dreams. But according to some, the use

567
01:00:12.280 --> 01:00:17.000
of dozens of real human skeletons as
props in the movie brought a deadly curse

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01:00:17.039 --> 01:00:23.920
that continues to this day. Lots
of movies, particularly horror flicks, are

569
01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:29.199
said to be cursed, The Exorcist, the Almond, Rosemary's Baby, and

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01:00:29.400 --> 01:00:37.199
even an unmade script entitled Atuk and
Skeptics usually explain away these hexes as coincidences

571
01:00:37.519 --> 01:00:43.960
and or marketing schemes. But before
you dismiss the Poltergeist curse out of hand,

572
01:00:44.880 --> 01:00:51.840
consider the similarities between the movie and
real life. In Poltergeist, the

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01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:55.880
Freelings, a nice, upper middle
class family, move into a new house

574
01:00:57.239 --> 01:01:04.119
in a prototypical Spielberg style in neighborhood, But strange things start to happen and

575
01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:12.239
their suburban ideal turns nightmarish. Heavy
rains, unearthed, tons of skeletons buried

576
01:01:12.239 --> 01:01:16.280
beneath their home. The cheapass real
estate developers built on top of a cemetery,

577
01:01:16.480 --> 01:01:22.440
but didn't tell anyone their corpses denied
a final resting place, the dead

578
01:01:22.639 --> 01:01:31.559
take revenge on the Freelings, ultimately
targeting their children. In real life,

579
01:01:34.039 --> 01:01:39.360
Steven Spielberg and Toby Hooper, two
nice, upper middle class filmmakers, move

580
01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:45.960
to a Spielberg style film set and, without telling your actors, use actual

581
01:01:45.079 --> 01:01:53.280
human skeletons as props in their movie. Then strange things start happening lightning strikes,

582
01:01:53.760 --> 01:02:00.159
accidents, and more. This leads
to whispered rumors and an e Hollywood

583
01:02:00.159 --> 01:02:06.800
story episode that the dead are taking
revenge upon Poltergeist's cast, targeting the children.

584
01:02:08.599 --> 01:02:15.320
According to believers, the curse ultimately
claimed the lives of Freeling family members

585
01:02:15.400 --> 01:02:21.360
Heather or Rourke and Dominate Dunn,
both of whom died very tragically and very

586
01:02:21.440 --> 01:02:30.119
young. If any one person represents
the Poultergeist series, it's actress Heather or

587
01:02:30.199 --> 01:02:35.639
Rourke. She was only five years
old when she starred in Poltergeist. Or

588
01:02:35.760 --> 01:02:40.440
Orks. Carol Anne is the soul
of the franchise. The innocent targeted by

589
01:02:40.480 --> 01:02:49.480
evil around which the story revolves.
Her read of the line they're here transcended

590
01:02:49.480 --> 01:02:54.960
the movie and is one of the
most remembered taglines in film history. But

591
01:02:55.119 --> 01:03:01.920
her involvement with the series may have
come with a terrible price. After appearing

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01:03:02.000 --> 01:03:09.119
in all three of the original Poultergeist
movies, Overurke died tragically and somewhat mysteriously

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01:03:09.360 --> 01:03:15.960
at only twelve years old. In
the middle of shooting Poultergeist three. She

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01:03:16.119 --> 01:03:20.760
was rushed to the hospital, where
she died in the middle of surgery.

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01:03:22.840 --> 01:03:27.639
Immediately after her death, or Rourke's
manager mistakenly reported that the child actor had

596
01:03:27.679 --> 01:03:31.159
died of the flu, but the
actual cause of death was stranger than that.

597
01:03:32.840 --> 01:03:37.239
Rourke, it turns out, died
from septic shock during emergency surgery to

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01:03:37.320 --> 01:03:45.400
repair an acute bowel obstruction. She
was born with a stenosis of the intestines

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01:03:45.480 --> 01:03:50.719
that was never diagnosed. Instead,
doctor said that she had Crohn's disease.

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01:03:52.559 --> 01:03:55.320
According to a lawsuit filed by her
parents, her death could have been prevented

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if she had received the correct diagnosis. Then there's Dominique Dunne. She played

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Dana Freeling, the teenager daughter in
the original Poltergeist. Like her co star

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Heather Arwurk. Poltergeist was Dominique Dunn's
first feature film. Thanks to the movies

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incredible success, she had gone from
small television parts to a huge film career

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overnight, but behind the scenes,
her life was its own kind of nightmare.

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In nineteen eighty one, she began
a relationship with John Sweeney, a

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chef at a trendy LA restaurant.
Sweeney was, according to court testimony,

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an abusive, jealous, and angry
man. The couple flock constantly, with

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Sweeney reportedly beating Dunn savagely. After
a particularly violent row, where Sweeney reportedly

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strangled Done and jumped on her carhood
to keep her from leaving, Dun moved

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out and ended their relationship, but
Sweeney didn't take no for an answer.

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According to police reports, on the
night before Halloween in nineteen eighty two,

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the chef carved a chocolate mask of
Dominique's face and delivered it to her.

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After a brief argument, Sweeney strangled
Done into unconsciousness. When the police arrived,

615
01:05:32.679 --> 01:05:36.679
Sweeney told them I killed my girlfriend
and I tried to kill myself,

616
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but he was wrong. The attempted
murderer only ended up, strangling done into

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a coma. He did eventually kill
her. She spent four days in a

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coma, teetering between life and death, before finalisa coming on November fourth of

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nineteen eighty two. The horrible thing
about this is that not only did somebody

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lose their life, but Sweeney served
less than four years for the crime.

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After prison, he changed his name
and has presumably been living as a freeman

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ever since. The origin of this
curse. The use of real skeletons on

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the set of Poultergeist was first made
public by actress Joe Beth Williams, who

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dropped the fact on vh ones I
Love the Eighties. A film crew using

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real human remains to dress and set
seems too strange to be true, But

626
01:06:35.599 --> 01:06:43.239
it turns out Williams wasn't misremembering her
day's shooting Poltergeist. Yes, the skeletons

627
01:06:43.239 --> 01:06:48.880
were real, confirmed Poultergeist assistant prop
master Bruce Cassont. They came from Carolina

628
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Biological, Casson said, naming a
medical and science supply company that sold human

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skeletons, mainly for use in medical
schools back in the nineteen eighties. Replica

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skeletons didn't exist as far as I
remember at that time. They're now common

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and relatively cheap, and the rush
to the bottom of the line for cost

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01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:14.679
will dictate. As for the curse, Casson added, this filming wasn't any

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01:07:14.719 --> 01:07:19.559
different than any other production. I
was part of what he's saying here is

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01:07:19.599 --> 01:07:26.159
actually true. In the eighties and
even sometimes in the nineties and way before

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01:07:26.199 --> 01:07:31.440
that, it was very, very
common for them to use real skeletons in

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01:07:31.559 --> 01:07:39.599
movies because replicas were very expensive.
They were either expensive or they didn't exist,

637
01:07:39.880 --> 01:07:45.559
so they did have to use real
skeletons that were usually bought by medical

638
01:07:45.599 --> 01:07:49.559
schools at the time. So if
you watch an old movie that's either from

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01:07:49.599 --> 01:07:55.920
the eighties or four, most likely
those skeletons they're using in there are actually

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human remains. The curse kind of
spans beyond just death. Thankfully, we

641
01:08:09.239 --> 01:08:12.920
don't want everybody dying all the time. It's very sad that two people did

642
01:08:12.960 --> 01:08:15.640
pass away, but if it were
just that, we probably wouldn't be talking

643
01:08:15.680 --> 01:08:23.119
about it. The curse is also
said to have affected the set actual production

644
01:08:23.319 --> 01:08:28.960
of the movie. Now, prop
master Casson, the one we were just

645
01:08:29.000 --> 01:08:32.840
talking about may not have felt the
curse, but others who worked on Poltergeist

646
01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:41.560
tell of strange experiences. Reportedly,
the mechanical clown used in the movie malfunctioned

647
01:08:42.000 --> 01:08:47.600
and strangled actor Oliver Robbins. Robbins, who played Robbie the youngest son,

648
01:08:48.399 --> 01:08:54.680
was supposedly almost killed because the crew
thought his strangulation was just a very convincing

649
01:08:54.720 --> 01:09:00.760
acting along with revealing the skeletal nature
of the curve. Joe Beth Williams told

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01:09:00.760 --> 01:09:06.159
e True Hollywood Story that she would
return home every night after filming Poltergeist to

651
01:09:06.239 --> 01:09:11.920
find that something had tilted all of
the pictures in her home. I began

652
01:09:11.960 --> 01:09:15.239
to think somebody trying to send me
a message that I shouldn't be doing this

653
01:09:15.279 --> 01:09:23.399
film, william said. Maybe the
most Poltergeist like story connected to the movie

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01:09:23.439 --> 01:09:30.399
belongs to author James Kahn. Kahn
was tasked with writing the novelization of the

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01:09:30.439 --> 01:09:33.439
movie, and he says that as
he was finishing the novel, a freak

656
01:09:33.600 --> 01:09:40.279
lightning bolt struck the building he was
working in. The facing on the air

657
01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:44.479
conditioning unit, blew off, flew
across the room and hit me in the

658
01:09:44.520 --> 01:09:47.800
back. After about half a minute
or a minute, the lights flickered and

659
01:09:47.840 --> 01:09:51.680
went on, and then all the
video games in the room started playing themselves.

660
01:09:56.640 --> 01:10:01.319
So weird stuff is going on around
all of this. But there are

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01:10:01.359 --> 01:10:11.560
more deaths connected with Poltergeist. These
ones aren't mame stars like that now.

662
01:10:11.560 --> 01:10:16.840
The success of Poultergeist led to a
couple of sequels into continuation of the strange

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01:10:16.840 --> 01:10:24.000
events and deaths that played the first
Poultergeist film. Reportedly, the crew behind

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the Poultergeist sequel used real human remains
in their movie too. Will Sampson,

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01:10:29.439 --> 01:10:32.920
who played the mystical Native American in
the movie, was actually a real life

666
01:10:32.920 --> 01:10:38.279
shaman. He was apparently upset enough
about the curse that he delayed production for

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01:10:38.399 --> 01:10:45.000
hours to perform a Muskegee Indian blessing
to clear the set of evil. It

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01:10:45.000 --> 01:10:47.039
apparently didn't work, and I'm sorry, I don't know if I said Muskegee

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01:10:47.119 --> 01:10:54.000
right. Not only did Heather O'Rourke
die years after the ceremony, Sampson himself

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01:10:54.319 --> 01:11:00.560
perished less than a year later from
complications from a kidney transplant. Sam's not

671
01:11:00.600 --> 01:11:05.800
the only one death connected to a
sequel. Remember the evil preacher Kane from

672
01:11:05.800 --> 01:11:13.439
Poltergeist too. There's a reason his
deathly pallor looks so realistic. The actor

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01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:18.600
Julian Beck was suffering from advanced stomach
cancer during the filming, and he died

674
01:11:18.840 --> 01:11:28.399
soon after the movie was completed.
Both Beck and Samson were older and unhealthy

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01:11:28.439 --> 01:11:31.600
to begin with, and once you
get into the deaths of older actors from

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01:11:31.640 --> 01:11:36.720
pre existing conditions, the connections to
a curse become pretty tenuous. But there's

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01:11:36.760 --> 01:11:43.199
one death vaguely connected to Poltergeist that
bears mentioning, if only because it's so

678
01:11:43.279 --> 01:11:50.039
grizzly. Lou Perryman had a bit
part in the original Poltergeist, playing Pugsley,

679
01:11:50.159 --> 01:11:55.439
a construction worker. In two thousand
and nine, the sixty seven year

680
01:11:55.479 --> 01:12:00.640
old actor was chilling at home in
Austin, Texas, when Seth Tedam knocked

681
01:12:00.640 --> 01:12:05.159
on his door. According to witnesses, the two had a brief conversation and

682
01:12:05.199 --> 01:12:13.720
went inside together. Seth left the
house alone. When police searched his residence,

683
01:12:14.399 --> 01:12:18.840
they found Perryman dead, his body
hacked apart with an axe. Tatum

684
01:12:18.880 --> 01:12:25.000
seemed to have chosen Perryman completely at
random in the midst of some kind of

685
01:12:25.039 --> 01:12:30.359
psychotic fugue. Tatum left his house
and wandered aimlessly for three miles before knocking

686
01:12:30.359 --> 01:12:34.279
on Perryman's door, Of all the
thousands of doors he passed on his mad

687
01:12:34.359 --> 01:12:43.039
journey, why did Tatum pick that
particular one to knock on? Maybe coincidence,

688
01:12:43.880 --> 01:12:53.159
maybe something darker. So like seemingly
every beloved horror classic movie from the

689
01:12:53.199 --> 01:13:00.920
seventies and eighties, Poltergeist was recently
rebooted, director Gil In was actually hoping

690
01:13:00.920 --> 01:13:05.680
the Poltergeist Curse would be rebooted as
well. On a red at Ama,

691
01:13:05.800 --> 01:13:11.039
Kennon wrote, my family's lucky number
is thirteen. We kind of have this

692
01:13:11.239 --> 01:13:15.600
reverse psychology where we search for the
greatest chance of something supernaturally stacked against us,

693
01:13:16.239 --> 01:13:23.359
and so by searching for it,
we're protected. It's demented. Well,

694
01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:28.159
he may have gotten his wish.
Kennon reports an explicable equipment failure on

695
01:13:28.199 --> 01:13:31.800
the set and says the curse followed
him away from filming. The house that

696
01:13:31.840 --> 01:13:36.079
I rented during filming was straight up
legit, haunted by a female spirit dressed

697
01:13:36.079 --> 01:13:42.319
in black. Kennon wrote, she
definitely was there. It didn't follow me

698
01:13:42.359 --> 01:13:45.760
back to Los Angeles, but it
followed me from set back to where I

699
01:13:45.840 --> 01:13:54.640
was sleeping during filming. Now,
this is one that's always been debated.

700
01:13:55.880 --> 01:14:00.439
Is it possible that they just maybe
had a little bit paranormal activity going on

701
01:14:00.960 --> 01:14:06.000
while the movie was filming, and
then everybody's just kind of connecting dots where

702
01:14:06.680 --> 01:14:14.800
the dots don't need to be connected. Maybe do you think there's actually a

703
01:14:14.880 --> 01:14:23.239
curse around the Poltergeist movies? Let
me know what you think, because I'm

704
01:14:23.279 --> 01:14:30.039
still not sure what to think.
All of these can be chocked up to

705
01:14:30.199 --> 01:14:35.840
curses. Ultimately, when it comes
to curses, whether you're part of one

706
01:14:36.039 --> 01:14:41.439
or the reason for one, whatever
the case, maybe you tend to look

707
01:14:42.039 --> 01:14:50.159
for little signs that fit that narrative. You connect dots where sometimes those dots

708
01:14:50.239 --> 01:14:56.119
don't need to be connected. Everybody
has different beliefs when it comes to this.

709
01:14:56.680 --> 01:15:01.239
We'll talk about curses from a different
perspective. I guess you could say

710
01:15:01.640 --> 01:15:10.239
in this next episode that should be
coming out shortly after this one. Let

711
01:15:10.239 --> 01:15:15.399
me know what you think. Do
you think curses actually exist? Do you

712
01:15:15.439 --> 01:15:19.560
think that they can really affect us
like this, that they can cause something

713
01:15:20.279 --> 01:15:27.880
like death? Let me know what
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If you don't have social media but
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is to leave a five star review
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the assid especially for my fellow Android
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desktop computer to actually view my iTunes, but it does help the show grow,

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So that is a very good way
to help if you would like to.

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I think starting next week week after
maybe I will start reading some tune

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reviews at the end, maybe do
like five or ten each episode. So

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01:16:20.520 --> 01:16:25.760
if you want to shout out and
you want a review that you leave read,

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01:16:26.600 --> 01:16:30.199
let me know. I will be
making sure to check these pretty regularly.

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01:16:30.680 --> 01:16:35.359
If you want your actual name said
and not your iTunes name, just

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01:16:35.479 --> 01:16:42.640
leave it somewhere in the review.
I do have Patreon. I don't plug

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it that often here, but I
wanted to this week because I am skipping

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payment for the month of April.
If you want to take it for like

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a test run, see what it's
like. If you want like that free

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month, feel free to sign up
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been doing a bonus episode and a
bonus video episode on there as well.

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If that's something that you're interested in
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help support the show on our financial
part, feel free to do that.

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As you've noticed, I haven't really
been putting my ads in the middle anymore.

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That's a big, long story.
If you're curious about that, you

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can go to Patreon and find out, because I did do an episode on

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that. Also, if you're on
Patreon and you got to watch the video

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01:17:42.039 --> 01:17:47.520
episodes, I'm going to apologize upfront
about the thumbnails. I have no idea

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01:17:47.640 --> 01:17:53.319
what I'm doing, but somehow YouTube
takes the most ridiculous face I make in

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the entire video and decides that is
going to be the thumbnail. So please

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01:17:59.079 --> 01:18:00.760
don't judge right off the bat.
It's just I had no idea how to

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work YouTube other than playing videos.
I don't know what anything to do for

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editing. They're completely unedited. Take
advantage of that if you like. If

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01:18:12.159 --> 01:18:17.239
you don't feel it's for you,
not a big deal, cancel before the

746
01:18:17.319 --> 01:18:25.800
first of May. You won't be
charged. Now that's it for our episode

747
01:18:26.239 --> 01:18:30.119
on Famous Curses. Like I said, we're going to have another one up

748
01:18:30.159 --> 01:18:35.960
here within the next few days about
the witchcraft perspective on curses. If witchcraft

749
01:18:36.039 --> 01:18:39.640
is not your thing, you don't
want to hear about it, don't listen.

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01:18:39.920 --> 01:18:42.880
I will give another warning on that
episode at the very very beginning.

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01:18:43.159 --> 01:18:46.479
But I do want to thank you
all so much for listening, so much

752
01:18:46.479 --> 01:18:50.680
for supporting the show. You enjoined
the Facebook group if you want to be

753
01:18:50.960 --> 01:18:57.039
a little more interactive kind of talk
about some stuff. I hope to see

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01:18:57.079 --> 01:19:00.119
you all in there. Thanks so
much for listening. I'll see you all

755
01:19:00.239 --> 01:19:08.279
later. Bye. I'll print you
off around. I'll tell you falling down

756
01:19:08.560 --> 01:19:14.359
and Dad, I'm bed time around. It's not all. You're not sing

757
01:19:14.520 --> 01:19:19.720
out of space. I'm waiting in
this place to catch your racing. It's

758
01:19:20.000 --> 01:19:27.159
not over. I'll make you walk
around. I'll tell you valing time.

759
01:19:27.680 --> 01:19:39.840
Dad, I've been time. It's
not so n