I'm still waiting for you. Hi everyone, thanks for listening to shoes,
booths and tattoos. As always, I'm Jess, I'm your host. Now,
of course I have to give you a quick warning for today's episode.
We're gonna be talking about curses, famous ones. In fact, if you're
in the Facebook group, then you know that you're going to be getting two
episodes this week. That's because I couldn't talk about famous curses without addressing them
from a witch's perspective as well. Curses. It is not these specific curses.
But today this episode will talk about some famous curses, things that are
suspected to have happened because of them, and then the next episode we'll talk
about curses, hexes, jinxes. When it comes to witchcraft, I'm not
going to sit there and tell you basically you shouldn't curse, because I'd be
a hypocrite. I'll talk about it things that are involved with it in the
next episode. This episode will be appropriate for pretty much everyone. I might
swear, so no guarantees there. It will still be marked explicit, just
because I do swear, and my show is usually a little only explicit side.
It's usually not super appropriate for children. At least not little ones.
I will try to keep the swearing to a minimum, especially since this is
kind of one of those fun episodes where we're talking about things that are stories.
We won't talk about details of anybody's death, we won't talk about any
of those kind of hard topics. These stories are just pretty much folklore.
The other episode this week, I'll tell you now it's going to talk about
witchcraft, not this one, but the next one. The title will be
different, so you'll be able to tell the difference between this one and the
next one. This isn't really a two parter because we're not really addressing the
same thing. So if you're not into the topics involving witchcraft, this episode
will be for you. I'll give another warning with the next episode as well.
I am going to sit here and record both back to back. I'm
hoping to get them out the same day, but I'm not planning on it,
like I'm not betting on it, simply because of everything going on.
Kids are home and there is a lot a lot to do in very short
periods of time. With the kids home, my workload has increased significantly.
So without further ado, let's talk about some famous curses. Now, for
this episode, I picked a few curses that I was very either familiar with
or had definitely heard of at some point, and I found them fascinating.
I found all curses fascinating, really, but there are some that are a
bit more mysterious or make you wonder a little bit more than others. Now,
when I say we're going to talk about famous curses, what's the first
thing that pops into your head? For me, it was the curse of
the Pharaohs, the Tombs of the Pharaohs, to be specific. Now,
for this I did do the research on these, and I did find certain
articles that seemed to talk about the curse in a way that broke it down,
made sense, and covered it well. So first let's talk about one
of the most in my opinion, famous curses, the curse of King Tut's
tomb. I found this article on Smithsonian Journeys dot org. They broke the
curse down in a way that really made sense and told you everything without overdoing
it or making it seem a little too story Like, if that makes sense,
we've all heard the story. The curse of the Pharaoh is a strong
belief that anyone who should disturb a mummy or a pharaoh's tomb will be cursed.
This commonly known belief was intended to preserve the sanctity of the tombs in
Egypt's Valley of the Kings. It wasn't really meant to deter grave robbers,
but in the past century the curse has turned into a grave warning, particularly
in the case of King Tut's tomb. Some people chose to believe the curse
is alive and well, while others feel it can simply be explained by simple
science. Archaeologist and egyptologist Howard Carter's team was put under the microscope after opening
the tomb of King Tut in common as people wondered if the curse had truly
affected the people who witnessed the tomb's opening in nineteen twenty two. Here are
a few of the people and pets connected to the curse. There was Howard
Carter's pet canary. The canary was eaten by a cobra. Now this is
significant to the curse and that a cobra is symbolic to the Egyptian monarchy.
It's believed to be the royal cobra and it was released in a Carter's home
as a symbol of how the King strikes at his enemies. This began local
rumors that the curse had been released. Then there was Lord Carnivon no idea.
If I'm saying that right, I'm sorry. I'm going to mispronounce a
lot in this episode. Now, this Lord Carnivan was the sponsor of the
King Tut dig. He ended up dying from blood poisoning. He was bitten
by a mosquito and accidentally cut the bite while he was shaving. It then
became infected, and he died of blood poisoning. Some believe the mosquito bite
was in the same location as the lesion that King Tut had on his cheek,
but since this guy, Lord Carnarvon, was buried with no formal autopsy,
nobody could actually confirm this. Then there's Sir Bruce Ingham. This is
Carter's friend. His house burned down twice. Bruce received paperweight made of mummified
hand whether it's wrist adorned with a scarab bracelet marked with cursed be He who
moves my body to him shall come fire, water and pestilence. No one
has an explanation for this other than bad luck. Carter himself didn't believe in
the curse, and out of the fifty eight people present when the sarcophagus was
opened, only eight died within twelve years. Carter passed away at the age
of sixty four of lymphoma in nineteen thirty nine and was not one of the
eight. Scientists do note that the tomb may have been filled with a deadly
fungus that had grown over the centuries and was released when the tomb was opened.
Air samples were taken from inside an unopened sarcophagus through a drilled hole to
test the air quality, and high levels of ammonia, formaldehyde, and hydrogen
sulfide were all around. However, all of these would have a strong scent
and people would have been repelled by the odor. In the end, it
is believed that it wasn't these particular situations that fed the rumor of the curse,
but rather the world's newspapers who found they sold more papers saying that a
terrible curse was unleashed the moment King Tut's tomb was opened. Now, the
stories of King Tut's tomb, I've always heard that it was all of these
people that died shortly after opening the tomb. It's not really the case.
Only eight people died in a span of twelve years after opening the tomb.
That's a very small percent and most of them are explainable or could very well
just be coincidence. People die every day. If you put a group of
fifty eight people together, a certain percentage of the are going to become ill,
are going to have accidents, and are going to pass away. That
doesn't mean that that group is cursed. All it means is shit happens.
So unfortunately, in my opinion, the curse of King Tut's Tomb was just
a series of bad luck coincidences, and really not in that short of a
time span. What did you think when you heard of the curse of King
Tut's Tomb. Did you think the same thing as me is that there were
a bunch of incidences in a very short period of time. Let me know
what you thought. Now, a lot of these curses can be chalked up
to coincidence. However, there are some that do make you think. There
are some that we've had an understand ending of that wasn't really the whole picture,
Like in the case of King Tut's too, But this one, this
one caught my interest. This is the Hungarian curse, the Curse of Toronto.
Now this is from M. J. Mandokai, author dot WordPress dot
com. I did find that this was the best detailed account of the curse.
There were some other ones, but overall it they were just on the
little iffy side. This one just detailed everything the way I liked it.
Now, this might be a new one for you, it was for me.
I didn't know about this legend or this curse before. Hungarians, however,
are ay familiar with the Curse of Tehran. In popular language, it
refers to the suffering of the Hungarian people, either through inner strife and pessimism,
or through natural catastrophe, lack of independence from other nations, and wars.
In general, the very mention of it usually creates bitterness and sadness and
Hungarian people. But where did the belief in this curse come from? The
most accepted explanation of the origin of this curse is that a pagan shaman put
a spell on the nation. Historically, Hungary was a pagan nation and that
lasted up until a year one eighty. They were ruled by the House of
our pad with the death of Giza, the ruler of Hungary. According to
the tradition at the time, the nation's leadership belonged to the oldest and most
able male member of the ruler's larger family. The most able leader at this
point was Company. However, he was not the son of Giza, and
Guiza's son, Vac revolted against the ancient tradition to claim the right to his
father's throne. This dispute led to a battle of the men against each other.
The battle was not just significant for the leadership of the family, but
also for the spiritual fate of the Hungarians. Company was deeply entrenched in his
Pagan faith and was ready to defend it against the Christian invasion. On the
other hand, Vac was ready to make a change and adopt the Christian faith
to save Hungary from a devastating destruction of the Christian army. The battle was
fought, and the Pagan leader, Vak became a Christian and took the name
Istvan or Stephen, and became King Stephen of Hungary, the first Christian king.
The Pagans lost, and they weren't happy. They didn't want to lose
their faith for political reasons. As a result, according to the legend,
a powerful shaman officially put a curse or a malicious spell on the new Christian
nation for a thousand years. He is said to have said, may you
not live in agreement? For a thousand years? The Hungarian nation was to
suffer because of the official adaptation of Christianity. There is a disagreement whether the
shaman was targeting the Christian leadership or the Hungarian people, or both, but
one thanks for certain. The Hungarian people believe that they have suffered a great
deal of misfortune in the past thousand years, beginning with the leadership of King
Stephen. Of course, some people say that it began with him, but
others cite alternate theories for the birth of the curse. Whatever the origin is,
the belief in the curse is very strong on Hungarians. The good news
is that the thousand years is up. Ironically, there has been a resurgence
of the old pagan faith over the past fifteen twenty years. The new theory
is that maybe the shaman spirit that lingers around could have seen that the Hungarians
didn't really lose their old faith, tradition, or culture, or maybe the
curses time was just up. Of course, these answers do require the belief
in the power of the initial curse and curses in general. Now, when
you look at the history of Hungary, they've had a lot of shit happen
over the past thousand years, as any country would, but they've been pretty
unlucky. They also had one of the highest suicide rates in the world for
centuries. Could this be due to a curse or could it just be because
of the economic status or the location where they were fighting, how they were
fighting, who they were fighting, and what. It's kind of up to
you to decide. If you want to look more into this, you can
look up the Hungarian Curse or the Curse of Tyron. You can find places
that do detail different events that take place in Hungary over this thousand years,
but you can find similar things that also take place in a lot of countries,
especially over the course of a thousand years. Now, this next one
is when most of you are probably at least somewhat familiar with. This is
the curse of James Dean's Little Bastard. I did find this at gelotnik dot
com. No idea if that's how you say it or not, But this
detailed it pretty well. Now, while we think of the Porsche five fifty
Spider, the first thing that comes to mind is James Dean. Since James
Dean's death in nineteen fifty five, the Porsche fifty Spider has become infamous as
the car that killed him. When we were young, we all watched that
Unsolved Mysteries episode on the Curse of the James Dean Porsche. These stories not
only made the famous car seem more like Christine than Porsche, the downright scared
us. We decided to share some stories with you. Now. Filming Rebel
without a Cause, James Dean had upgraded from the three fifty six to the
five fifty Spider and decided that he wanted to make it uniquely his Dean called
upon George Barris of movie car fame to customize the Porsche. He gave it
tartan seats, two red stripes over the rear wheels, and plastered the number
one thirty on its doors, hood and engine cover. The name Bastard was
given by Dean language coach Bill Hickman and was later painted on the car by
master pinstriper Dean Jeffries. On September twenty third of nineteen fifty five, James
Dean met actor Alec Guinness outside of a restaurant and had him take a look
at the spider. Alec told James that the car had a sinister appearance,
and then told him if you get in that car, you'll be found dead
in it by this time next week. Seven days later, James Dean would
be killed in his beloved Little Bastard. That Little Bastard not only killed James
Dean, but killed and maimed others who came in contact with it, causing
many to say the damn thing was cursed. George Barris, who customized the
five fifty, originally bought the wrecked carcass of Little Bastard for twenty five hundred
dollars. Soon after it slipped off of its trailer and broke a mechanic's leg.
Not long after, Barris sold the engine and drive train to Troy McHenry
and William Eckrid. While the two were both racing against one another the cars
that had parts from Little Bastard. McHenry lost control and hit a tree,
killing him instantly, and Eckrid was seriously injured when his car suddenly locked up
and rolled over while going into a turn. Barris still had two tires from
the Spider which were untouched in Deane's accident. He sold them, and not
long after both of them blew out, simultaneously causing the new owner to run
off of the road. Barris had kept the car in his possession without the
sold parts, of course, and it caught the attention of two would be
thieves. One of the thieves arms was torn open trying to steal the steering
wheel, while the other was injured trying to remove the bloodstained Tartan seat.
Due to all the incidents involving Little Bastard, Barris decided to hide the car,
but was convinced by the California Highway Patrol to lend the cursed heap to
a highway safety exhibit. The first exhibit was unsuccessful, as the garage that
housed the car caught fire and burned to the ground. Mysteriously, the car
suffered virtually no damage from the fire. The next exhibition, at a local
high school ended abruptly when the car fell off of its display and broke a
nearby student's hip. The continued when the Little Bastard was being transported when the
truck carrying the car lost control and caused the driver to fall out and somehow
get crushed by the car after it fell off the back. The car fell
off of two more transport trucks while traveling on the freeway, fortunately didn't injure
anyone. During those two times, the HP decided that it had enough of
Little Bastard, and while transporting the car to Barris, the car mysteriously vanished
and hasn't been seen since. There are stories that a single piece of Little
Bastard resides at the Historic Auto Attractions Museum in Illinois. Are you brave enough
to go and find out? I have no idea if that's actually true or
not. I don't know if there's a piece of Little Bastar or at a
museum. Oh, there's a bunch of replies on this article. I'm not
sure if this one's true. It's just from b z R. Oh.
This is back in two thousand and nine. It says it was built from
the most evil parts of the most evil cars in all of the world.
The steering wheel was from Hitler's Steph car, the left turn signal from Charles
Manson's Volkswagen. The windshield wipers from the car that played Night Rider. Wait,
come on, that is just stupid. First, this was a new
car, right, I mean, I don't know anything really about the car,
how it was built, nothing like that. But it's my understanding that
James Dean brought a brand new car. They weren't going to use parts from
other cars. That's just that's just flat out jpid. There are a lot
of comments on here talking about the speed that James Dean was going when he
died, and some say that he was going seventy miles an hour. Others
say that it was assumed that he was speeding at the time, but it
was later proven that he wasn't that it was just the car that was cursed.
I don't know, none of this is really helpful. These are just
these comments and everything are just stupid people trolling. Now let's move on to
our next curse. This is when most likely all of you were going to
be familiar with. That's the Kennedy curse. Now. This popped up again
after the death of another Kennedy in twenty nineteen. I did find this article
USA today dot Com. They did a good job detailing the people that have
died because of the Kennedy Curse, as well as the most recent one,
which is sayoorsy. I think that's how you say it. I am so
sorry, but she recently passed away. She was the granddaughter of Robert F.
Kennedy. So we're going right from this article USA Today dot com.
The Kennedy family is once again in mourning after the death of Sayoorzy Kennedy Hill,
the granddaughter of Robert F. Kennedy. The twenty two year old died
at the Kennedy Compound in hyannis Port, Massachusetts, on Thursday. Her family
confirmed her death in a statement to the Associated Press, saying, our hearts
are shattered by the loss of our beloved Sayoorsy. This isn't the first time
the Kennedys were forced to say goodbye to a family member too soon before their
time. The Kennedy family history is marred by events such as plane crashes,
World War Two, combat, alcohol and drug addiction, and various other accidents
that have compounded into the so called Kennedy Curse. Let's talk about some of
those people who have fell victim to the Kennedy curse. There was Joseph P.
Kennedy Junior. This is the oldest brother of John F. Kennedy and
Robert F. Kennedy, the two we know the best. Joseph P.
Kennedy Junior died in a plane crash in August of nineteen forty four. He
was a naval pilot and he was flying off the coast of Normandy, France,
while serving with the US N eighty in World War Two. Joe,
who was groomed by his father to be the politician of the family, was
only twenty nine when he died. He received many postumous awards, including the
Air and Navy Cross for Heroism. The Navy commissioned a Gearing class destroyer named
after him, the USS Joseph P. Kennedy Junior DD eight fifty, which
saw action in the Korean War. Then there's John F. Kennedy. The
thirty fifth President of the United States, was assassinated in Dallas in nineteen sixty
three. He was only forty six. A few hours after the president was
fatally shot, police arrested Harvey Lee Oswald and charged him with the murder.
As a popular politician, jfk served three terms in the House and then was
elected to the US Senate in nineteen fifty four. He was inaugurated into the
White House in nineteen sixty one and was the first Catholic president to take office.
He did many things during his short time in the Oval office, such
as create the Peace Corps and jumpstart Man's mission to go to the Moon at
the height of the Cold War with Russia. Next there's Robert F. Aka
Bobby Kennedy, brother to John F. Kennedy. Bobby was gunned down in
Los Angeles in nineteen sixty eight after winning California's presidential primary against then Senator Eugene
McCarthy and Lyndon B. Johnson's vice president, Hubert Humphrey. He started out
as a Senate aide to Republican Joe McCarthy and then became a civil rights advocate.
Later in his political career, he served as Attorney General in the administration
of his brother, Reverend Martin Luther King Junior, was assassinated in Memphis,
Tennessee, only two months before Bobby Kennedy's death. Next there's John F.
Kennedy, Jr. The former president's son was killed in nineteen ninety nine when
he crashed his airplane into the Atlantic Ocean off Martha's Vineyard. His wife Caroline
Bassett and her sister Lauren Bassett were also on board. Then there's Mary Richardson
Kennedy, the wife of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. Died by suicide in
twenty twelve. Then there's David Anthony Kennedy, uncle of say Orzy Kennedy Hill,
fourth of Ethel and Robert Kennedy's eleven children. David Anthony Kennedy struggled with
alcohol and drug addiction. He was found dead in nineteen eighty four at a
Palm Beach hotel. The young Kennedy had been in Palm Beach to visit his
grandmother in family matriarch, ninety three year old Rose Kennedy. The Washington Post
reported at the time that Senator Edward Ted Kennedy eulogized his nephew during a fifty
minute private service. Then there's Michael Kennedy, son of the late Senator Robert
F. Kennedy, was killed in a skiing accident during a family outing in
Aspen, Colorado, in nineteen ninety eight. A year before his death,
he had admitted to an affair with his teenage babysitter and made a public apology.
Forcing his brother, Joseph p. Kennedy, the second to abandon his
run for governor of Massachusetts. Michael was the second of eleven children born to
Robert and Ethel Kennedy to die under tragic circumstances, with his brother David dying
in Florida in nineteen eighty four of a drug over produce. Then there's Edward
Kennedy, the senator from Massachusetts died at the age of seventy seven after battling
brain cancer in two thousand and nine, the same kind of cancer that killed
his good friend, Senator John McCain nine years later. He was also involved
in the Chappaquittic incident. This is an incident in which Edward ted Kennedy,
then a Senator, drove off of a bridge on Chapaquittic Island in Martha's Vineyard.
He did survive, but his twenty eight year old passenger, Mary Joe
Kopechni, was killed. Then there's say Orsy. She was the only child
of Courtney Kennedy Hill, the fifth of Robert and Ethel Kennedy's eleven children.
Her father is Paul Michael Hill, one of four falsely convicted in the nineteen
seventy four Irish Republican Army bombings of two pubs. The Kennedy Curse has been
talked about and been around for a very long time. In reality, this
is a very powerful family. There's going to be more people that want you
out of the way the more powerful you are. No, I'm not saying
that all of these people were killed, but a couple of them were.
We know that, we know they were assassinated. They were a very politically
involved and they are a very influential family. Do you think the Kennedy's are
actually victim to a curse? Do you know more about this than I do
and know some things that maybe would lean more towards curse more towards something else.
Let me know, But for now we're going to move on to the
next one. Now, this one could possibly be an episode all it's There
are a few podcasts out there that have covered this as an episode, same
with quite a few of these curses, of course, because there is a
lot of information out there. MS Now this one, I'm personally not sure
if it's a curse really or something else. We're going to talk about the
twenty seven Club. I found this article at Society of Rock dot com.
Celebrity deaths are always sad, dying young is even more tragic and apparently a
mysterious statistical anomaly among rock stars. The concept for the notorious twenty seven club
came to haunt the public consciousness in the nineteen seventies when rock stars Brian Johnson,
Jimmy Hendrix, Alan Wilson, Janice Joplin, and Jim Morrison all tragically
died within a space of three years, in all at the tender age of
twenty seven. When Kurt Cobain committed suicide when he was also twenty seven years
old, it was his mother who acknowledged the connection to the infamous death club
following her son's demise, saying, now he's gone and joined that stupid club.
I told him not to join that stupid club. Since Cobain's death,
questions have surfaced on whether the age of twenty seven is a curse for rock
stars or just an unfortunate coincidence. Here are ten rock stars who coincidentally or
mysteriously died at the age of twenty seven. If you want to hear a
really really good podcast about Kurt Cobain's death, go to Mysterious Circumstances look through
his episodes and go back to when he covered Kurt Cobain, because that is
an amazing, amazing episode. Justin always covers all of those things so in
depth. It's amazing. So if you want to learn more about Kurt Cobain
and his death and why I went after that, go listen to him.
Maybe it's something I'll cover in the future, but I don't honestly think I
can do better than that. So the first one we have here for the
twenty seventh Club is Robert Johnson. This is one that could very well be
an episode of his own. Maybe I'll do a little Patreon episode for it.
Robert Johnson died August thirteenth of nineteen thirty eight. He is one of
the earliest members of the twenty seven Club. Ragtime blues guitarist and singer songwriter
Robert Johnson has a haunting myth surrounding his untimely death. The real cause of
his death is declared unknown, but there are several theories about it. One
theory claims that Johnson was murdered by a jealous husband who poisoned his whiskey after
the blues singer flirted with his wife at the country dance witnesses stated that Johnson
began feeling ill within a course of three days and eventually died in a state
of severe pain. However, there is a popular legend which claims that his
song Crossroad Blues speaks of the singer's encounter with the devil at a crossroads where
he is said to have sold his soul. The legend tells that the story
of Johnson taking up his guitar to a crossroad by the Dockery plantation in Mississippi,
where he was met by a large black man, the devil, who
gave him the musical ability to become famous and successful in exchange for his soul,
which the devil claimed when the King of the Delta Blues was twenty seven
years old. This is a popular theory as well behind the twenty seven Club
in general, that these people that do become famous and that tragically die at
the age of twenty seven sell their souls for fame, talent, and fortune.
Sometimes talent is a little debated, but it's a very popular theory that
I wouldn't say is exactly a curse. That's more repeat behavior. Is it
worth it to be famous for a few years and then die when Now,
let's talk about the next person on our list for the twenty seven club Brian
Jones. He died July third, nineteen sixty nine. A little known fact
about the Rolling Stones maybe that it wasn't frontman Mick Jagger who formed the iconic
rock band, It was English musician Brian Jones. The band's bassist Bill Wyman
said about Jones, he formed the band, he chose the members, he
named the band, he chose the music we played. He got us gigs,
very influential, very important, and then slowly lost it. He was
highly intelligent and just kind of wasted it and blew it all away. Unfortunately,
due to Jones's continued drug abuse, which affected his relations with the other
members, he was fired from the band in June of eighteen sixty nine.
There was barely a month after that he was found dead at the bottom of
his swimming pool, having apparently drowned while intoxicated from alcohol and drugs. The
coroner's official report declared that Jones had a death by misadventure. Ironically, fellow
rock artist Jimmy Hendricks publicly dedicated a song to Jones, while The Doors lead
singer Jim Morrison published a poem titled owde to La while thinking of Brian Jones
deceased. Hendricks and Morrison are also part of the twenty seventh Club. Both
died within the following two years after Jones's death. The next person we have
on this twenty seventh Club is Alan blind Owl Wilson, who died September third
of nineteen seventy. One of the precursory artists to begin the streak of rock
musicians consecutive deaths at twenty seven in the seventies, Canned Heat singer Alan blind
Al Wilson was found dead on a hillside near his bandmate Bob Heights home into
Panga Canyon, California. Autopsy reports identified acute barbiturate intoxication as his cause of
death. Months prior to his body being found, he unsuccessfully attempted suicide by
driving his car off of a freeway. He was hospitalized after the incident and
was also checked in for depression. He was released after only a few weeks.
With his death involving an overdose on drugs, It was never clarified whether
it was an accent or if it was suicide, but he left no note
indicating that it was a suicide. Next, we have Jimmy Hendrix. Jimmy
Hendrix died September eighteenth of nineteen seventy, only a year after his friend Brian
Jones's tragic end, In just two weeks after Alan Wilson died. Legendary rock
guitarist Jimmie Hendrix also met his death at the same age as Jones and Wilson,
twenty seven. His death also has a lot of speculation surrounding it,
disputing whether it was suicide or an accident. He was found dead in his
London apartment by his girlfriend, Monica Denoman. The cause of death stated in
his obituary states asphyxiation after choking on his own vomit due to barbiturate intoxication.
Jimmy Hendrix was found to have overdosed on Denoman's Vesperax sleeping pills. The drug
ingestion was followed by getting drunk on wine with his girlfriend the night before.
Many speculators think Hendrix's death may have been a suicide after discovering the poem he
wrote the night before his death, titled The Story of Life. The chilling
last stanza of Hendrix's final poem reads the story of life is quicker than the
wink of an eye. The story of love is hello and goodbye until we
meet again. After Jimmie Hendrix, Janis Joplin followed suit. Janis Joplin died
October fourth of nineteen seventy. It's tragedy upon tragedy in the world of rock
music when female rock legend Janis Joplin was found dead in her Hollywood hotel room
only sixteen days after Jimi Hendrix's death. Fool Tilt Boogie road manager John Cook
found the singer dead in her hotel room on the floor. Cook drove to
Joplin's hotel room after producer Paul Rothschild informed him that she failed to show up
for her recording session. Janice's official cause of death was heroin overdose compounded with
alcohol. Prior to her death, Janice was set to meet up with her
fiance Seth Morgan and her former lover Peggy Cassara on October two, when they
both failed to show up to keep her company. Janice was said to have
been significantly saddened as she instructed the hotel front desk clerk to hold off all
her calls thereafter, it was said that this event of depression led her to
overdose on potent heroine. Then there's Jim Morrison. He died July third,
nineteen seventy one, exactly two years after his friend Brian Jones was found dead
in a swimming pool. The Doors lead singer Jim Morrison was ironically found dead
in almost the same way on the same day and the same age as Jones.
Morrison's girlfriend Pamela Corson, found his lifeless body on the morning of July
third, nineteen seventy one, inside the bathtub of his Paris apartment. Sam's
autopsy, the coroner released the singer's official cause of death to be heart failure
due to heroin overdose combined with alcohol ingestion. The night before his death,
Morrison was reported to have vomited blood before getting into the bath of which he
never got out of. In another ironic turn of events, girlfriend Pamela Corson
also died of a heroin overdose three years after Morrison at guess what age Yeah,
also twenty seven. The chillingly strange similarities between the deaths of two influential
rock artists Jones and Morrison remained unexplained. Next, there's Ron Pigpen mccarnin.
He died March eighth of nineteen seventy three. Ron Pigpen mccarnin's tragic fate is
a twisted irony connected to the name of his band, Grateful Dead, which
he himself came up with. The proficient blues organ and harmonica player was a
heavy alcoholic as much as he was a heavyweight in the world of blues rock.
While his other bandmates turned to psychedelic drugs, Pigpen didn't. Instead,
he abused alcohol, which led to his severe liver problems at the very young
age of just twenty four. His damaged liver eventually got in the way of
his career when he was forced to pull out of touring in nineteen seventy due
to his ill health. He later recovered enough to reunite with his band in
nineteen seventy one until nineteen seventy two. His last performance was a Grateful Dead
concert at the Hollywood Bowl in June of nineteen seventy two. His body finally
gave in when he died of internal hemorrhaging caused by alcohol abuse in nineteen seventy
three at the age of twenty seven. Then there's Pete ham who died April
twenty fourth of nineteen seventy five. They could have been the next Beatles.
Nineteen seventies rock band Bad Finger enjoyed a steady rise in the industry, but
suffered a painful downfall. Badfinger's lead singer and guitarist, Pete Hamm was not
able to handle the crash of his band in career when he took his own
life by hanging himself in the garage of his home in Surrey, England.
Due to conflicts between him and the Beatles label Apple Records, Badfinger ended up
on a sour end of rock and roll deal when they were not able to
release an album or tour. The downward spiral continued with countless internal and financial
woes and feuds with the band's business manager, Stan Polly. He did mention
Polly in his suicide note, saying I will take him with me. Pete
Hamm died just three days shy of his twenty eighth birthday, leaving a pregnant
girlfriend who gave birth to their daughter just one month after his death. Then
there's Gary Thaine, who died December eighth, nineteen seventy five, before being
the third bassist for the English progressive hard rock band Uriah Heap. Gary Thaine
served as a bassist and guitarist for the Kief Hartley Band, who opened for
Uriah Heap in nineteen seventy one until they broke up in nineteen seventy two.
In nineteen seventy five, Thaine met his demise at twenty seven, due to
an overdose on heroin. His drug addiction came strangely after he was electrocuted on
stage while his band was playing at a concert in Dallas, Texas. After
his freak accident, he developed various health problems that were apparently side effects of
being electrocuted. He then turned to abusing drugs to cope with his health issues.
He was let go from Uriah Heap only months before he was found dead
in his England apartment in December of nineteen seventy five. His official cause of
death was respiratory failure due to heroin overdose. The last one we have here
is, of course Kurt Cobain. There are many more that are in this
club as well. Kurt Cobain is perhaps one of the most famous, at
least for my generation and those a little older than me. As well.
Perhaps the most popular Hall of Famer in the twenty seven Club, Nirvana frontman
Kurt Cobain died of a self inflicted gunshot wound to his head. Cobain's tragic
suicide reawakened the curiosity and fascination surrounding the frequent similarity of rock stars meeting their
deaths. At the age of twenty seven, Kurt Cobain, who was debbed
the King of Grunge, struggled with his fame, his public persona, and
heroin addiction as he battled to Russian during the peak of his band's career.
His drug abuse led to various chronic illnesses that resulted frequent trips to the hospital
while he was on tour. Days before an electrician found him dead in his
Seattle home, Kirk Obain escaped from a drug rehabilitation facility in Los Angeles by
climbing up a six foot tall fence and taking a taxi to the airport.
His hospital tag was still on his arm when his body was found. A
suicide note addressed to his childhood imaginary friend Boda, was found beside his body,
along with bottles of alcohol and traces of heroin. His note ended with
a message to his wife, Courtney Glove and his two year old daughter Frances
Beam, saying, please keep going Courtney, for Francis, for her life,
which will be so much happier without me. I love you. I
love you now. Like I said, if you want to learn more about
Kurt Cobain's death, how it could have been a suicide, maybe wasn't a
suicide, go listen. Go listen to Justin's episode Mysterious Circumstances, talking about
Kurt Cobain and his mysterious death, the things that add up, things that
don't add up. Listen for now, we're going to move on to another
kind of curse. This one's a little bit different. We're going to talk
about two more curses in this episode. This is one that is kind of
relevant today. This is two Comes His Curse or the Curse of Typical New
Now. This I'm just taking from Wikipedia. It had the most concise information
in one spot that didn't derail or get political, and we don't want that.
We don't want anything to get political here. The Curse of Tippecanou,
also known as Decomes's Curse or the twenty year Presidential Curse, is a pattern
of deaths in office of presidents in the United States elected in years that are
evenly divisible by twenty, from William Henry Harrison, elected in eighteen forty,
through John F. Kennedy elected in nineteen sixty. Ronald Reagan was elected in
nineteen eighty and was wounded by gunshot, but he survived, as did George
W. Bush in two thousand. Interestingly enough, every president since William Henry
Harrison back in eighteen forty that has served in a year divisible by twenty has
either been assassinated, impeached, survived an assassination attempt, pumped. There has
been some kind of shit, I guess, is the best way to put
it, going on every twenty years. We're coming up on it this year.
We're in twenty twenty. This has been almost two hundred years now that
this thing has been going on. So let's talk about the curse a little
bit. William Henry Harrison was elected president in eighteen forty, but he died
in eighteen forty one, just a month after being sworn in the name.
The Curse of Tippecanoe is derived from the Battle of Tippecanoe in eighteen eleven when
Harrison negotiated the eighteen o nine Treaty of Fort Wayne, in which the Native
Americans ceded large tracts of land to the government. The treaty further arranged Shawnee
leader to Kumsa and brought government soldiers and Indians to the brink of war.
In a period known as Tecumsa's War, Tecumsa and his brother organized a group
of Native American tribes to resist the westward expansion of the United States. In
eighteen eleven, succumbs his forces attacked Harrison's army in the Battle of Tippecanoe,
earning Harrison's fame in the nickname Old Tippecanoe. In an account of the aftermath
of the battle, Tukumsa's brother, shit Tenscatawa, supposedly set a curse against
Harrison. This is the basis of the curse legend, even though it was
Richard Mentor Johnson who was said to be the man who killed Tecumsa. Okay,
so, since nineteen sixty three, no president has died in office.
However, there were assassination attempts on both presidents after that first eighteen forty We
have William Henry Harrison. He was in his first term and he died of
typhoid. Then we have Abraham Lincoln, who was in his second term.
He was assassinated April fifteenth, eighteen sixty five. That is an odd one.
It's not exactly divisible, but he was elected in eighteen sixty in a
year that was divisible by twenty. Then we have James A. Garfield eighteen
eighty, he was assassinated in eighteen eighty one. William McKinley nineteen hundred,
assassinated in nineteen o one, Warren G. Harding nineteen twenty. He had
a heart attack. In nineteen twenty three, Franklin D. Roosevelt had a
cerebral hemorrhage. He was elected in ninety and he died in nineteen forty five.
Then there's John F. Kennedy who was assassinated. He was elected in
nineteen sixty and then died in nineteen sixty three. Nineteen eighty, Ronald Reagan,
he did survive an assassination attempt, but he did not die in office.
Then there was George W. Bush who also survived an assassination attempt.
He was elected in two thousand, So every twenty years from eighteen forty through
two thousand, every single president has had some kind of misfortune, died in
office, been assassinated, or survived an assassination attempt. This might possibly be
due to better precautions when it comes to the presidents, better safe team measures.
But every president that's been elected in years divisible by twenty, such as
our year coming up twenty twenty, has suffered either death or an assassination attempt
in some way. What do you think is going to happen this election?
Do you think this curse of the presidents might continue? We'll have to wait
and see. It's possible that maybe Ronald Reagan surviving his assassination attempt broke it.
But George Bush still survived an assassination attempt as well, he didn't get
shot. That I don't think, at least I don't really remember. In
twenty I was ten, by the way, so I didn't really pay attention,
and I haven't looked back at it since then. We'll have to wait
and see what this election kind of brings. If there's an assassination attempt,
if the person dies in office, we'll have to wait and see. I'm
willing to bet because of this pattern that maybe maybe something's gonna happen. Whether
it's an assassination, attempt, natural death, who knows. We'll have to
wait and see. It would be great to actually kind of discuss this and
see what people's thoughts are in like the Facebook group or even on the Facebook
page or anywhere. Message me, let me know what you think about it.
Please do not get political, No stupid little remarks battle if Trump gets
elected it, I don't want to hear it. I don't own to hear
it for any candidate. I'm not political. I don't want to hear that.
Okay, So keep it non political. Just theories on what's going to
happen because of this pattern that we've seen. Let me know what your theories
are. But for now, we're going to move on to our final curse.
This one I picked specifically for my uncle Keith. My uncle Keith just
started listening to the podcast, and I know his love of horror movies.
There are a lot of horror movies that are said to be cursed or troubled
by paranormal activity, such as The Omen, The Exorcist, and this one
we're going to cover Poltergeist. Now. I did get this one from the
thirteenth Floor dot TV. This just had the most concise information on one's boot.
There is a rumored curse surrounding the Poultergeist movies. The Poultergeist curse began
with scale lots of them. The Spielberg production horror flick spawned two sequels,
a reboot, and countless bad dreams. But according to some, the use
of dozens of real human skeletons as props in the movie brought a deadly curse
that continues to this day. Lots of movies, particularly horror flicks, are
said to be cursed, The Exorcist, the Almond, Rosemary's Baby, and
even an unmade script entitled Atuk and Skeptics usually explain away these hexes as coincidences
and or marketing schemes. But before you dismiss the Poltergeist curse out of hand,
consider the similarities between the movie and real life. In Poltergeist, the
Freelings, a nice, upper middle class family, move into a new house
in a prototypical Spielberg style in neighborhood, But strange things start to happen and
their suburban ideal turns nightmarish. Heavy rains, unearthed, tons of skeletons buried
beneath their home. The cheapass real estate developers built on top of a cemetery,
but didn't tell anyone their corpses denied a final resting place, the dead
take revenge on the Freelings, ultimately targeting their children. In real life,
Steven Spielberg and Toby Hooper, two nice, upper middle class filmmakers, move
to a Spielberg style film set and, without telling your actors, use actual
human skeletons as props in their movie. Then strange things start happening lightning strikes,
accidents, and more. This leads to whispered rumors and an e Hollywood
story episode that the dead are taking revenge upon Poltergeist's cast, targeting the children.
According to believers, the curse ultimately claimed the lives of Freeling family members
Heather or Rourke and Dominate Dunn, both of whom died very tragically and very
young. If any one person represents the Poultergeist series, it's actress Heather or
Rourke. She was only five years old when she starred in Poltergeist. Or
Orks. Carol Anne is the soul of the franchise. The innocent targeted by
evil around which the story revolves. Her read of the line they're here transcended
the movie and is one of the most remembered taglines in film history. But
her involvement with the series may have come with a terrible price. After appearing
in all three of the original Poultergeist movies, Overurke died tragically and somewhat mysteriously
at only twelve years old. In the middle of shooting Poultergeist three. She
was rushed to the hospital, where she died in the middle of surgery.
Immediately after her death, or Rourke's manager mistakenly reported that the child actor had
died of the flu, but the actual cause of death was stranger than that.
Rourke, it turns out, died from septic shock during emergency surgery to
repair an acute bowel obstruction. She was born with a stenosis of the intestines
that was never diagnosed. Instead, doctor said that she had Crohn's disease.
According to a lawsuit filed by her parents, her death could have been prevented
if she had received the correct diagnosis. Then there's Dominique Dunne. She played
Dana Freeling, the teenager daughter in the original Poltergeist. Like her co star
Heather Arwurk. Poltergeist was Dominique Dunn's first feature film. Thanks to the movies
incredible success, she had gone from small television parts to a huge film career
overnight, but behind the scenes, her life was its own kind of nightmare.
In nineteen eighty one, she began a relationship with John Sweeney, a
chef at a trendy LA restaurant. Sweeney was, according to court testimony,
an abusive, jealous, and angry man. The couple flock constantly, with
Sweeney reportedly beating Dunn savagely. After a particularly violent row, where Sweeney reportedly
strangled Done and jumped on her carhood to keep her from leaving, Dun moved
out and ended their relationship, but Sweeney didn't take no for an answer.
According to police reports, on the night before Halloween in nineteen eighty two,
the chef carved a chocolate mask of Dominique's face and delivered it to her.
After a brief argument, Sweeney strangled Done into unconsciousness. When the police arrived,
Sweeney told them I killed my girlfriend and I tried to kill myself,
but he was wrong. The attempted murderer only ended up, strangling done into
a coma. He did eventually kill her. She spent four days in a
coma, teetering between life and death, before finalisa coming on November fourth of
nineteen eighty two. The horrible thing about this is that not only did somebody
lose their life, but Sweeney served less than four years for the crime.
After prison, he changed his name and has presumably been living as a freeman
ever since. The origin of this curse. The use of real skeletons on
the set of Poultergeist was first made public by actress Joe Beth Williams, who
dropped the fact on vh ones I Love the Eighties. A film crew using
real human remains to dress and set seems too strange to be true, But
it turns out Williams wasn't misremembering her day's shooting Poltergeist. Yes, the skeletons
were real, confirmed Poultergeist assistant prop master Bruce Cassont. They came from Carolina
Biological, Casson said, naming a medical and science supply company that sold human
skeletons, mainly for use in medical schools back in the nineteen eighties. Replica
skeletons didn't exist as far as I remember at that time. They're now common
and relatively cheap, and the rush to the bottom of the line for cost
will dictate. As for the curse, Casson added, this filming wasn't any
different than any other production. I was part of what he's saying here is
actually true. In the eighties and even sometimes in the nineties and way before
that, it was very, very common for them to use real skeletons in
movies because replicas were very expensive. They were either expensive or they didn't exist,
so they did have to use real skeletons that were usually bought by medical
schools at the time. So if you watch an old movie that's either from
the eighties or four, most likely those skeletons they're using in there are actually
human remains. The curse kind of spans beyond just death. Thankfully, we
don't want everybody dying all the time. It's very sad that two people did
pass away, but if it were just that, we probably wouldn't be talking
about it. The curse is also said to have affected the set actual production
of the movie. Now, prop master Casson, the one we were just
talking about may not have felt the curse, but others who worked on Poltergeist
tell of strange experiences. Reportedly, the mechanical clown used in the movie malfunctioned
and strangled actor Oliver Robbins. Robbins, who played Robbie the youngest son,
was supposedly almost killed because the crew thought his strangulation was just a very convincing
acting along with revealing the skeletal nature of the curve. Joe Beth Williams told
e True Hollywood Story that she would return home every night after filming Poltergeist to
find that something had tilted all of the pictures in her home. I began
to think somebody trying to send me a message that I shouldn't be doing this
film, william said. Maybe the most Poltergeist like story connected to the movie
belongs to author James Kahn. Kahn was tasked with writing the novelization of the
movie, and he says that as he was finishing the novel, a freak
lightning bolt struck the building he was working in. The facing on the air
conditioning unit, blew off, flew across the room and hit me in the
back. After about half a minute or a minute, the lights flickered and
went on, and then all the video games in the room started playing themselves.
So weird stuff is going on around all of this. But there are
more deaths connected with Poltergeist. These ones aren't mame stars like that now.
The success of Poultergeist led to a couple of sequels into continuation of the strange
events and deaths that played the first Poultergeist film. Reportedly, the crew behind
the Poultergeist sequel used real human remains in their movie too. Will Sampson,
who played the mystical Native American in the movie, was actually a real life
shaman. He was apparently upset enough about the curse that he delayed production for
hours to perform a Muskegee Indian blessing to clear the set of evil. It
apparently didn't work, and I'm sorry, I don't know if I said Muskegee
right. Not only did Heather O'Rourke die years after the ceremony, Sampson himself
perished less than a year later from complications from a kidney transplant. Sam's not
the only one death connected to a sequel. Remember the evil preacher Kane from
Poltergeist too. There's a reason his deathly pallor looks so realistic. The actor
Julian Beck was suffering from advanced stomach cancer during the filming, and he died
soon after the movie was completed. Both Beck and Samson were older and unhealthy
to begin with, and once you get into the deaths of older actors from
pre existing conditions, the connections to a curse become pretty tenuous. But there's
one death vaguely connected to Poltergeist that bears mentioning, if only because it's so
grizzly. Lou Perryman had a bit part in the original Poltergeist, playing Pugsley,
a construction worker. In two thousand and nine, the sixty seven year
old actor was chilling at home in Austin, Texas, when Seth Tedam knocked
on his door. According to witnesses, the two had a brief conversation and
went inside together. Seth left the house alone. When police searched his residence,
they found Perryman dead, his body hacked apart with an axe. Tatum
seemed to have chosen Perryman completely at random in the midst of some kind of
psychotic fugue. Tatum left his house and wandered aimlessly for three miles before knocking
on Perryman's door, Of all the thousands of doors he passed on his mad
journey, why did Tatum pick that particular one to knock on? Maybe coincidence,
maybe something darker. So like seemingly every beloved horror classic movie from the
seventies and eighties, Poltergeist was recently rebooted, director Gil In was actually hoping
the Poltergeist Curse would be rebooted as well. On a red at Ama,
Kennon wrote, my family's lucky number is thirteen. We kind of have this
reverse psychology where we search for the greatest chance of something supernaturally stacked against us,
and so by searching for it, we're protected. It's demented. Well,
he may have gotten his wish. Kennon reports an explicable equipment failure on
the set and says the curse followed him away from filming. The house that
I rented during filming was straight up legit, haunted by a female spirit dressed
in black. Kennon wrote, she definitely was there. It didn't follow me
back to Los Angeles, but it followed me from set back to where I
was sleeping during filming. Now, this is one that's always been debated.
Is it possible that they just maybe had a little bit paranormal activity going on
while the movie was filming, and then everybody's just kind of connecting dots where
the dots don't need to be connected. Maybe do you think there's actually a
curse around the Poltergeist movies? Let me know what you think, because I'm
still not sure what to think. All of these can be chocked up to
curses. Ultimately, when it comes to curses, whether you're part of one
or the reason for one, whatever the case, maybe you tend to look
for little signs that fit that narrative. You connect dots where sometimes those dots
don't need to be connected. Everybody has different beliefs when it comes to this.
We'll talk about curses from a different perspective. I guess you could say
in this next episode that should be coming out shortly after this one. Let
me know what you think. Do you think curses actually exist? Do you
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on Famous Curses. Like I said, we're going to have another one up
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