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Well, happy Marcus, Monday here
back inside home studio here. Well,

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we'll get back in the in the
home office with the lights and everything here

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eventually. But I always liked the
casual nature of the Monday morning once.

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Here have Jason Sandy bye. I
think Evan's getting logged in here. We'll

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get it going early Monday. Jason, I don't like you very much today

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because your your Buffalo bills to the
slacking of my Washington commanders. How are

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you? I'm doing good rate.
A little bit of a mixed weekend obviously,

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with the Bills beating your commanders yesterday, but the Tiecats giving Clawberd on

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Saturday, So a bit of a
mixed weekend for me, But overall I'm

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doing good. Yeah. I like
Mariners got swept in Texas. We're going

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to see them tonight. Houston's coming
here. Obviously, BC Lions one commander's

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law. Seahawks are barely hanging in
there. They got over the Panthers or

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the Andy Dalton, which it says. I don't know if that says more

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or less than you want to know
about the Seahawks, but yeah, it

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was a mixed bag. And then
obviously I got my crack and had on

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preseason. Starting tonight, we're doing
the split squad. I think half the

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guys are going to Calgary. I'm
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a lot of other news here.
Obviously, we've been talking to XFL stuff

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and the NSFL and the hubbs and
all that. We're gonna leave that all

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on the table today. We're gonna
talk to CFL. Overall a little bit

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of a sleepy weekend. It's hard
with these NFL games that compete. Why

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did you make overall the sleep Yeah, I would say it was one of

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the weaker weekends of the season.
I think that, you know, I

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thought the BC and Edmonton game.
I watched that one. It was pretty

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entertaining I think throughout, but at
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that great of a finish either.
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weaker weekends of the season, and
hopefully we get better enough in the coming

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weeks. You see here this CFL
I was still not working on. This

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is zero's across the bore an exciting
times here. Let's start here. Let's

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start with the one that you were
at Bebo Field. Tikat's going in.

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This is weird and like I talked
with whoever the heck was on the show

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this last week, Derrek Taylor,
kind of everyone else, Like Toronto's in

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a weird spot. Now we don't
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we don't want to be you know, it's like that rest first for

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us, it's just weird where it's
not a week or two out where,

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you know, we're five six weeks
out here. What did you make of

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the effort tront to put on I
know Cam Phillips did not play. He

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was on the show this last week
as well. What did you make of

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Toronto's roster? Well, I think
the major difference between the roster compared to

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normal was Ajo Alette. They rested
him for this game. Andrew Harris was

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put on the six game injured list, I think trying to get him ready

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for the playoffs. So those are
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And they just really kind of hit
the ground running and this one and we're

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able to really just take it to
the tie Cats once again. It's like

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I was saying before after Labor Day, I've seen this game like three times

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this year, Like it's the exact
same game. The Argos pull away in

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the first quarter and Hamilton tries to
play catch up the rest of the game,

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and they just simply cannot do it
against this team. They're just such

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a talent gap, it seems between
these two organizations right now. Are you

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surprised that we're not seeing that Chad's
still running out there? I mean,

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he did not have the cleanest game. He had the two picks and it

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was almost two picks sixes, right
if I was kind of watching like we're

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not seeing Brian Scott, we're not
seeing Ben Holmes, we're not seeing anyone

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else. Yeah, I'm kind of
surprised that he stayed as latentto the game

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as he did, actually stayed the
entire game for the Argos. So I

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was surprised that they didn't pull him
out in the fourth quarter. But I

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guess it was still two score game
at that point, not that they needed

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to win the game like you said. But I think there's some incentives in

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Chad Kelly's contract about I think if
he wins MLP, so I think that's

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also a motivating factor down the stretch. And the fact, like you said,

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that there's six games you can't rest
everybody for six weeks in a row,

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so it's gonna be very interesting to
see how the coming weeks play out

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for the art goes. Yeah,
it's like, I mean, it's a

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good problem. It's a first row
problem. They're kind of having to navigate

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that. I mean, certainly,
you know, I think you would take

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the first first week, you know, first vision by kind of all that

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stuff just surprising to me. It
felt very much like Patrick Mahomes running around

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yesterday against the Bears and you know
their Europe forty to three and Taylor Swifts

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in the suite and like, okay, if Patrick's got his ankle rolled up,

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like what are we doing here?
Do you think that Chad Kelly at

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this point is the MP. I
know we've batted that around in our group

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chat, and obviously that Claros and
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What do you make of Chack Kelly's
chances? Well, a few weeks

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ago, I would have said Chad
Kelly over Claris even though there was a

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statistical gap, like Clariss's numbers are
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But I think you know what I
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is really the story of the CFL
season, and the narrative we see time

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and time again in sports plays into
these awards, and the fact that claris

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has won the last two years.
I think there would be a little bit

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of fatigue. But Clariss is just
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point just because of some mediocre performances
from Kelly and the fact that the Argos

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don't only have anything to play for
down the stretch here, whereas Winnipeg is

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probably gonna have to play you know, out the spring here the rest of

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the season. So I think it's
Clariss's award to lose right now. Yeah,

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it's kind of the interesting part about
it. Winnipeg and I've got here,

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you know, this tab up,
you know, tight division, and

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we'll obviously we'll talk to West Blue
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certainly kind of at least gives them
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mean, Va, you don't think
Vernon's got any chance. You think he's

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played too sloppy. Yeah, I
think the turnovers have just just piled up

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too much. Like it's one thing
to say you just had those six turnovers

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against Toronto, earlier in the year, but there's been a couple of games

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like that the last couple of weeks. I think two interceptions in this past

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week, and then last week against
Ottawa, I think he had three.

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So they're piling up in a hurry
here in terms of tie Cats, here

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six and eight Red Blacks seemingly out
of it. How are you feeling the

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welfare chet kind of tie Cats fan
right now resigned to be playing the outlets

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in the East semis Well, I
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I mean, you can look at
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which they're o and four on the
season, they've looked completely uncompetitive. But

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you look at the other side of
their season, there's six and four the

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rest of their games. They're six
and four this season, so I mean,

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they've proven that they can beat a
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CFL other than Toronto obviously, Winnipeg
and BC they beat. So we'll have

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to see how they do down the
stretch this year. I'm not overly concerned

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that they're gonna miss the playoffs or
anything, but this loss, combined with

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Montreal's win on Saturday, makes it
very hard for the tie Cats to potentially

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finished second, and I think they
really need to have that game at home,

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given how the Alouettes have kind of
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Alouettes won both of the games in
Hamilton this year, but I think in

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a playoff environment, Hamilton would have
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they had that game at too Mourns
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that are pretty slim at this point, given the results of this weekend in

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Montreal owning the tiebreaker, I mean, I know obviously geographically there close tie

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Cat fans travel pretty well that Toronto, was it when you were there on

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Sunday? Yeah? Absolutely, yeah, absolutely almost every time, like the

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tie Cats really, you know,
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So I always making a joke to
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saying, I'm gonna go out to
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attendance numbers. You know, we
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me and my friends usually go to
Toronto every time they're in town. So

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you know, just didn't end up
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don't get it wasn't that they had
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ago with they got a lot of
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of your quarterback here at Taylor Powell, Hey, you know, I mean

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aggressive here in twenty seven forty two
obviously had a couple of picks on that

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butler getting a little bit of work. What did you make a cut of

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the offense Tiats put together? Honestly, they played terrible in this game.

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I mean, you know, fourteen
points obviously not a very good output,

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but I think they looked even worse
than that. I think they really were

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only able to move the ball in
the fourth quarter when the Argo's defense backed

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off a little bit. Very few
big plays, They were a lot of

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two and outs. There were a
lot of pre snap penalties. Taylor Powell

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through one of the worst passes you'll
see in the CFL this season. Interception

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on a fleet flicker play. So
usually when you want a fleefliquor play,

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you're looking to throw it deep,
but he decided to throw it right back

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over the middle, got picked picked
off by Wenton McManus. I went and

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McManus had a great game in this
one with two interceptions. So, I

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mean, you know, the tide
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in this one. Taylor Powell also
had an intentional rounding penalty in the end

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zone that led to a safety for
the Argos, So did not have a

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very good game in this one.
But like I said, it's just it's

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weird because he plays so poorly against
the Argos, but recently against the other

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teams in the CFL he's looked pretty
good. So it's hard to get a

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read on Taylor Powell. At this
point. You're gonna say, you see

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one of the worst passes of the
weekend. I said to Shawn Watson,

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throw probably a worst pass now for
the Cleveland rounds, but now in the

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CFL, that's fine. I know
we've been talking with this and like I

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don't know. I mean, we're
still talking Bow comes back. I don't

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know, if you know, if
sixteen weeks of rested Bow does anything.

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At this point, I don't know
what the tie Cats do next year.

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This feels like it said kind of
going into the slaughterhouse. It is the

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Alouettes, just you know, and
I know it was it handl to beat

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Toronto in the Semis. Was it
two years ago when they went to the

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Gray Cup. Like, I get
it, it can happen and all that.

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I just I don't know what what
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play here following the season for hand
with him, Well, it's worth noting

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that bow was reportedly back at practice
last week doing individual drills, not with

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the team, but like working out
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So it's worth noting if he gets
back on the practice field this week,

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we could potentially see him on the
field as soon as this week against the

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Stampeders, which would be you know, obviously a revenge game for him,

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So that would be very interesting to
see what happens with that. But I

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think at the end of the day, I mean, it's not really an

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inspiring option given what we've seen from
bow leave by this season. Powell has

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shown some signs, but also some
signs that are like that raised red flags

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for you. I think he holds
the ball way too long. Sometimes he

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just have the best decision making,
you know. I was having a discussion

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with somebody on Twitter, another Tycats, and he was saying that, you

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know, he's kind of afraid of
basing contact a lot of the time,

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kind of shies away from it.
So you know, it's it's very interesting

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to see what the tie Cads do
with their their quarterback room next season,

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because you know, they could go
the young and cheap route with Powell who's

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still under that rookie contract. They
could bring back Bow if they if they're

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insane, or they could go and
bring in someone from someone from somewhere else

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in the league. So it'll be
interesting to see what they do this offseason

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and how this season ultimately ends with
the tie Cats. I just so bad,

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like obviously in wee Times preseason.
I mean we've talked a lot here

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and you know, tie Cats making
the big move and doing all this and

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we're hosting I know, when we
were there two years ago, they're like,

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this isn't the real Gray Cup and
COVID and kind of all that stuff.

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Okay, now we're gonna give it
to them again, and there was

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all that controversy people how can handle
and gets it again? Whatever we're doing

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it. I mean, it does
sound like the events around everything are going

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to be great. I know we
have someone from the Gray Cup Festival going

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to be coming on here at some
point. The kind of view a lot

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of that stuff, but it does
feel like kind of this wasted year of

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we're doing it again, and you
know, tie Cats just last year was

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really forgettable and it feels like this
year is going to be pretty forgettable as

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well. Yeah, I just felt
like they never really got off the ground

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this year. Obviously with the oen
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help matters when you think yourself that
big of a hole and they're still haven't

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got back to five hundred. If
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got back to five hundred for the
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mean, really tough season to watch
as a tie Cats fan. But I

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mean, honestly, when you look
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actually I think they actually have a
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than they did last year, which
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was kind of burned, the tape
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and all that. In terms of
how long term, you know, has

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he succeeded well in this I mean, we got Shilts footing around as well,

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like you do. You feel like
he's whether it's with the tie Cats

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or elsewhere, has has kind of
proven himself through all this this year.

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He's not one of these guys that
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and this is his true rookie season, So I mean he's been asked to

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do, you know, an awful
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rookie season the CFL, just like
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between the two of those guys,
I would I have more confidence in Taylor

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Powell's passing ability than Dustin Crumb's passing
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you know, athleticism to the table
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So I mean it's tough to say
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going forward between those two guys.
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I think I would ride with him
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is even you know, like if
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wouldn't throw him out there to start, because I mean, I think Powell's

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shown enough to continue to start.
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is I like Matthew Schiltz, but
it seems like every time he gets a

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chance to, you know, be
the guy, he gets injured after like

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two or three games. So that's
just the sad reality of his career.

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He's a great backup quarterback for a
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like he's anything more. Yeah,
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I know Derek Taylor is really high. I mean people people seem to think

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he has a lot of promise,
and like you said, being thrown in

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there, it's so hard and learning
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you got all the heading into the
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and you've got this megastar coming in
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kind of falls apart. I think
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can this well. James has it
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sorry, but next year he's the
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Tim Kapper checking in here. I
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excuse me, Aulettes and Hamilton will
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one in the East semi, so
we'll be excited here coming down the stretch.

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you know, just I'm going into
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yeah, I mean, it'll be
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know, the tie cat season goes
from here. Like I said, they

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have Calgary at home next week,
which could be a massive game. Obviously

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for the Stampeders. It's basically do
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be a huge game for both of
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have BC at home, Saskatch one
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the road to finish out the season. So it'll be interesting to see,

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you know, how many wins they
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you know, if you had Bo
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little bit there, Calgary at Hamilton, that would be exciting on here.

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We you know, we talked about
this and we can talk more, you

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know later, But this Toronto Winnipeg
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because of the way that kind of
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But let me get out of here, all right, So let's move ahead

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here. The other game. Speaking
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for Calgary. Calgary doesn't come up. What did you make of this?

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I think it was more so the
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winning. It's had to say.
I think them, you know, the

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Alottes played pretty well in this one. Uh they you know, Fajardo had

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the one mistake, but I think
over the overall they had a very clean

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game, whereas Calgary on the other
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opportunities. They had, you know, a couple of picks. Jake Mayer

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had a really awful pick in the
second half where they were down by I

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think it was eleven to eight at
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they have the ball inside the Alotts
ten yard line, throws a pick

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in the end zone. So that
was a huge play in the game.

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drive down to extend their lead with another

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touchdown. So I mean, just
so many blown mistakes, mistakes this year

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by the Stampeders, and I think
that it's starting to look like a lost

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season for them. I feel like, you know, this clinches their first

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losing season in a long time now
ten losses, So I mean they're not

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completely out of it because the Scatch
One, we'll get to it. They

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lost to Ottawa on Friday night,
So I mean, this was just a

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great opportunity for Calgary to get themselves
right back into it because if they had

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won, they'd only be one game
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they have a head to head against
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so they had an opportunity to pass
them in a couple of weeks here,

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but they didn't take advantage of it. And we'll have to see how

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the rest of the season plays out. But do not have any faith in

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them at this point. I feel
like they just something's missing and something's off

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with that team right now, and
they just have no ability to win games.

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lot of close games this year,
even though this wasn't one of them.

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Yeah, I don't know. To
me, We've obviously talked about this a

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lot. Kind of the elks in
it all and just how different I think

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the season would feel if Edmonton,
you know, even losing to BC here

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over the weekend, like played really
well, right, and I've that I

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you know, I have no faith
in BC at all, but to have

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you know, Calgary play as poor
as they are, if the Elex had

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even had the semblance of a game
plan going into the season, I think

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Calgary would look even far worse than
they do it, you know, and

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they look terrible in the standings anyway, four and ten, but god knows

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without it is. It's just it's
so weird to me, like this,

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Jake Mayor, and you know,
it feels kind of like Mac Jones sometimes,

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like Okay, we get a bunch
of completions, we're moving the like

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you're never really moving the ball.
You're kind of just you know, check

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down, checkdown, check down the
hall way down the field. You know,

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you've talked about that kind of the
lack of aggressiveness that you think that

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Jake Mayor has. I just don't
know what the game plan is for them

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as well. I think, you
know, like we were talking Taylor Powell,

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you get to this point in the
season, like what do they do

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next year, And I don't know
what Calgary does if there's enough there not

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to kind of blow it up,
or you know, do you just ride

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with Mayor again? Yeah, exactly. And to build on our point earlier

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about Dustin Crumb and Taylor Powell,
it's you know, it's easy to say,

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oh, these guys could grow into
something next year, and you know,

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you see their trajectory. But the
thing with Jake Mayre is we thought

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he was fantastic. You know,
it's first ten or so starts in the

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CFL, and then the next ten
starts, the next fifteen starts. I

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mean, the once the defense gets
film on you, he looks like a

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completely different guy. And I mean
you just never know. In the CFL,

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there's been a lot of one year
wonders. So I mean, hopefully

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he can rebound from this and have
a better season next year, wherever that

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may be, if it's in Calgary
or somewhere else. But I don't think

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that his starting days are over.
In the CFL, We've seen guys get

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multiple chances. Look at Nick Arbuckle, how many chances he got to be

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a starting quarterback in this league.
So I mean, I don't think it's

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over for mayor necessarily, but at
the end of the day, just a

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god awful season from him and just
the Stampeders overall. It's so weird.

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And I remember those those first couple
of games when he came in and played.

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When Bo went down was three three
seasons ago now and right they lost,

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right the buzzer against the al Letts, but he came in and threw

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was a three hundred, three hundred
plass. It's for that, like the

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promise there, and I know we
had them on and like Calgary sigh.

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It's just so weird that like,
yeah, you're right, this is someone

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like we thought this is the next
star and Calgary's got their guy for the

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next decade here and now it's so
unsure with that. And I don't know

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if it's it's game planning there what
he just like you said, you get

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tape on it. But just feels
like he's a different quarterback now. And

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this to me was always like the
sure thing, like oh Calgary, you

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know, likes kind of like when
the Patriots drafted mac Jone's like okay,

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man, like they're set here,
like man, they have this and they're

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set like Yahbo Now you're gonna have
Jake for that. I just I want

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I think he's a really good guy. I want them to figure this out

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because I think the CFL is obviously
in a better position when all the teams

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are successful, but especially Calgary.
I mean, it's just a shame.

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And you see these kind of empty
stands right now, and I just seems

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like they're in a little bit of
a loose footing if that makes sense,

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Yeah, for sure. And just
to add another player to that, you

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know, comparison, another guy that
hit the wall was Dane Evans last year,

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right, like again, looked great
that first season as a starter back

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in twenty nineteen when Jeremiah Azzoli went
down and then looks pretty good in twenty

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twenty one, got them to the
Great Cup again, and then last Judas

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completely hit the wall once. You
know, he made those first ten or

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so starts, and you know,
after that, just the defense figured them

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out. So I mean, like
I said, it's very tough to tell

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with these quarterbacks. Well and yeah, and you tik Dane and you know,

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even with all the injuries this year, they were talking, oh BC,

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like are they gonna trade for Dane
or what's going on, Like,

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I mean, he didn't look phenomenal, you know, was it in the

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one star he played when Verna was
out, Like, I mean, it's

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it's I would take Dane over a
lot of guys, but it wasn't like

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he was set in the world on
fire. Up. Oh, BC's got

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you know, like we kind of
thought hypothetically before we kind of saw Dane

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play. Yeah exactly. It'll be
interesting to see if one of these teams

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this offseason makes Dane they're starting quarterback
in free agency. Like I wouldn't rule

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it out, I'll tell you.
And I know, you know there's all

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this going on with the XFL and
the USFL, Like I would start looking

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at some of these guys like we
gotta move on from this carousel. Yeah,

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I think you're right. I'm not
I'm not saying you're wrong, but

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like, uh, you know,
the Arbuncles of the world and like the

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data, like we let's I don't
know, let's expand the pool here,

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Let's get some of these guys up. Yeah, let's like I said tront

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To, like, let's see what
Brian Scott has. Maybe then he maybe

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you could go trade him for something
or do whatever. Like some of these

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guys, I don't know. I
don't I don't know what they're hard.

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There isn't trying and I know that
there's a lot of legacy in these teams,

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and okay, like Calgary and we
gotta go with the shut. I

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don't know. I would kind of
throw it up at this point in terms

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of the Alolettes here, Cody a
little bit better, you know, the

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one pick on this. What did
you make of the Alolettes win here?

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You said earlier you feel like the
Calgary game of the way, So what

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did you make of the Auletts efforts? Yeah, I think this was more

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of a defensive story for the Alouttes. I think their defense has kind of

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been their driving force pretty much the
whole season. I mean, I want

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to point to two in season editions
this year. So earlier this year they

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brought in Sean Lemon. He had
a big pick on the first drive for

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Calgary when the game was still zero
zero, so that was huge. That's

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his second interception of the season.
Had one against Hamilton earlier this year when

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I went to that game, and
he also had a couple of sacks I

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believe in this game as well.
So John Lemon making a big impact.

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It seems like he puts up numbers
no matter where he goes in the CFL.

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I think he's played on every CFL
team now other than Hamilton's, So

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it'll be interesting to see if he
plays for Hamilton's before his career is done.

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But you know, Lemon's just been
huge for them and really been a

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missing piece on that defensive line.
And then Darnell Sanky, who they brought

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in a couple of weeks ago XFL
Arlington Renegade. He was the CFL tackles

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leader last year and in twenty twenty
one with Calvary, so a bit of

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a revenge game for him going back
to where his CFL career started. So

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those two guys, you know,
and it was already a strong defense before

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they came in. I think it's
really the missing piece for this defense.

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And you know, but they concerned
with the Alouettes is just their offense and

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their lack of you know, explosion. I think that they're just not that

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high upside of an offense and that
they struggle in these you know matchups with

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BC or Toronto or Winnipeg because those
guys can put points on the board.

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Quickly and Montreal just can't keep up. So I think at the end of

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the day, that's just kind of
where I'm at with the Alouettes. They

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improved a seven and oh against all
teams that are not Winnipeg BC in Toronto,

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so that trend continues with their seasons. So well to see if they

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ultimately go eleven and seven this year
and that that trend plays out the entire

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season because they don't have any games
left against those top three teams. So

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now the Alotte's very weird team this
year, and you know, they're very

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well positioned to get second place in
the East. Now, I like how

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yeah, they said Sean Lemon like
revenge game here, It's like it's against

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a lot of teams if you're Sean
Leon, like you said, except except

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for the tie Cats on that.
Uh. You know, I've always I've

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always liked the Outlets defense. You
know, we had Almondo Sea ball on

407
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a couple of weeks ago. Like
I just remember the first the first Outlets

408
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game I watched here, you know
whatever, it was a few years ago,

409
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and I always felt like they're coming
at you and it felt like a

410
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big tough at defense. I like
having that, you know, like he

411
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said, Cody, you want him
to play better. I do think on

412
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the defensive side, I think Montreal
can keep it locked down. I just

413
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they don't seem to have enough points
a lot of the time to kind of

414
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keep up on that. I forgot
to say. We were gonna say during

415
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your during the Argos recap, you
were recognized at the game. But that

416
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was exciting. How was that?
Oh? It was awesome. He just

417
00:25:40.720 --> 00:25:44.000
came up and said, oh,
I've been watching the Monday recap shows and

418
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that he loves the insight that you
know, he said specifically that I give

419
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on the on the show. So
you know, it was pretty cool.

420
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Honestly, that's been a thing that's
happened about a handful of times now,

421
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mostly at Tiger Cats games. But
it was cool to see it happened in

422
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Toronto. Yeah, you get a
lot of When I was in Virgina,

423
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I got a lot e mark Mark
like, and you know, it's a

424
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very good roble. One time because
obviously, like it's very h niche market

425
00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:15.000
there when you're at like the Gray
Cup celebration whatever. But one time I

426
00:26:15.079 --> 00:26:18.640
was at the yard house here and
someone came up and they're like, hey,

427
00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:21.480
like I'm from BC, I'm down
here, and that that was the

428
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most random. Yeah, normally it's
like, you know, it's fellow fellow

429
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YouTubers or podcasters. That's awesome,
man, Tim's checking in here. Lemon

430
00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:33.559
is one sack away from one hundred
career sacks. Well, he's probably gonna

431
00:26:33.559 --> 00:26:36.359
do that before the end of the
season. We'll spend a couple more minutes

432
00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:38.880
on this one. Stand back had
had a couple of big runs on that,

433
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you know, like we talked before, it feels like he's kind of

434
00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:45.759
getting back up to his form here
headed into the end of the season.

435
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I don't know. I mean,
I think I think the Outlettes take care

436
00:26:48.559 --> 00:26:52.319
of Hamilton. Do you predict any
different than the East semis No. I

437
00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:56.119
think that muntfred All's kind of had
Hamilton's number recently. We saw that in

438
00:26:56.160 --> 00:27:00.759
the playoff game last year. I
mean, I think Hamilton won one game

439
00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:03.759
in the season series last year.
So this so far this year, Montreal

440
00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:07.359
two and all against them, and
then the last game of the season.

441
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If it means anything, you know, the Alouettes have already won the season

442
00:27:11.960 --> 00:27:15.519
series against Hamilton, so it'll be
interesting to see what happens. But I

443
00:27:15.559 --> 00:27:17.920
think at the end of the day, the Alouettes have the edge and that

444
00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:22.440
that matchup. Speaking of the Auletts, I posted this over the weekend because

445
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we were obviously talking about the merger
stuff and playing the Hubs and all that.

446
00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:30.319
Gary Stearns still sticking around here to
watch the CFLX how you pass football

447
00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:34.599
USFL evil still have lots to figure
out, So Gary always always omni president

448
00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:40.599
and Gary got everywhere and nowhere all
at once. Looking in ahead to the

449
00:27:40.680 --> 00:27:45.119
Alottes here going into Ottawa feels like
a little bit of a cake walk here

450
00:27:45.640 --> 00:27:48.599
four weeks seventeen. What do you
make of that, them traveling them?

451
00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:52.559
Well, it's funny you say that
because both of the games between those two

452
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teams, one of the ones I
went to in Ottawa, have been very

453
00:27:56.200 --> 00:27:59.480
very close this season, and this
is actually a back to back, so

454
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they're actually playing the following week as
well. So I mean, I was

455
00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:07.519
doing a playoff scenarios video last week
and I was just saying, you know,

456
00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:11.839
this is how Ottawa mathematically can still
make the playoffs. And you know

457
00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:15.119
the biggest factor would have been Montreal
losing to Calgary on Saturday. Unfortunately that

458
00:28:15.160 --> 00:28:19.400
didn't happen for them. But if
Ottawa, you know, if sorry Montreal

459
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:23.119
had lost that game and Ottawa had, you know, they pick up the

460
00:28:23.160 --> 00:28:27.960
win against Saskatchewan and then they won
the last two games here against Montreal,

461
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then they actually would have the tiebreaker
over the Alouttes. I think it's because

462
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even though Montreal has won two games
in that season series, they've only won

463
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them by a combined nine points or
eight points or something like that. And

464
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so whenever it finishes two too,
the tiebreaker goes to the team that has

465
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them as the point differential. So
the Red Blacks can still win that tiebreaker

466
00:28:52.599 --> 00:28:56.279
technically, but with the Aloutts picking
up that seventh win, it makes it

467
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very very difficult for Ottawa. Anything
else on this we'll get to be c

468
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in Edmonton. I just want to
touch on one thing that it's it's coming

469
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up and a lot of conversations.
Is Micah Alway, linebacker for the Calgary

470
00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:14.200
Stampeders, actually leaving the league in
tackles this season? I do believe.

471
00:29:14.680 --> 00:29:18.720
And he's been find multiple times for
very you know, aggressive hits this season,

472
00:29:18.920 --> 00:29:22.160
and he had a really bad spearing
penalty in this one I think it

473
00:29:22.200 --> 00:29:26.000
was a twenty five yard penalty.
You don't see that very often. So

474
00:29:26.400 --> 00:29:30.400
I mean, I think that the
CFL probably has to suspend this guy at

475
00:29:30.480 --> 00:29:34.799
some point because it's just been such
a reckless pattern of behavior from him.

476
00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:37.079
But I mean, he's a great
player, but I think at the end

477
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of the day, you can't have
that in our league because you know,

478
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at least on a repeated basis like
that, you know, well good,

479
00:29:45.440 --> 00:29:49.680
yeah, good there, let me
get this up here. So I caught

480
00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:52.559
up on this one, but I
this was Friday. We were going in

481
00:29:52.640 --> 00:29:56.640
and we had all the the XFL
USFL stuff came out. They really went

482
00:29:56.720 --> 00:30:00.839
crazy, like it was so funny
because I anyone's side track and like the

483
00:30:00.880 --> 00:30:03.680
report came out They're going to be
in hubs and there it's gonna be twelve

484
00:30:03.720 --> 00:30:07.000
teams, all this kind of stuff. So I was like, oh my

485
00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:08.759
god, because I got the email
because I'm probably with ever anyway, I

486
00:30:08.759 --> 00:30:12.759
emailed or I tweeted out, and
I'm kind of watching the Mariners, kind

487
00:30:12.759 --> 00:30:17.119
of keeping an eye on because it
was the early Friday game before BC came

488
00:30:17.119 --> 00:30:19.200
on. I'm kind of keeping track
of everything. And then obviously people saw

489
00:30:19.240 --> 00:30:22.440
it just ended up going crazy because
it took it took a little while for

490
00:30:22.519 --> 00:30:26.160
people to kind of figure out what
was going on. But I had laughed.

491
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:27.920
Dornthy and I went out to dinner
and we were saying our friends,

492
00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:32.079
I have no faith in BC at
all. I like I said, I

493
00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:36.599
predicted Edmonton at home Evan who maybe
Evans is sleeping in today, which I

494
00:30:36.599 --> 00:30:41.079
would imagine like Evans, you know, texting me like updates because I'm you

495
00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:45.680
know, and like he's okay.
They're driving into that no faith in this.

496
00:30:45.000 --> 00:30:48.960
I went back caught up on this. This was a very exciting game

497
00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:52.240
obviously, you know BC, you
know, one by a score doesn't feel

498
00:30:52.279 --> 00:30:56.559
like as dominant to win as I
would expect. What did you make of

499
00:30:56.599 --> 00:30:59.400
this one? And then we'll kind
of get into the specifics. Well,

500
00:30:59.559 --> 00:31:02.559
even though they gave up twenty nine
points in this one, I really thought

501
00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:06.240
it was the return of the Donut
Boys. I thought that the BC Lions

502
00:31:06.279 --> 00:31:10.359
defense really set the tone in this
one, shut down Trey Board's running ability.

503
00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:12.319
He really didn't get anything going on
the ground this entire game. I

504
00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:15.799
think he finished with forty yards,
but those all came basically on that last

505
00:31:15.880 --> 00:31:19.400
drive, so they really hemmed him
in, made him become a pass or

506
00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:23.519
and he really just couldn't beat the
Lions defense with the pass. So,

507
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:26.960
I mean, I thought the BC
Lions defense looked really, really good in

508
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:30.440
this game, and I thought the
only reason this game was close was because

509
00:31:30.480 --> 00:31:34.400
of the turnovers from the BC offense. Vernon had the pick six in the

510
00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:38.720
first quarter. He had a pretty
bad pick I think in the third quarter

511
00:31:38.799 --> 00:31:42.440
as well, so there was a
fumble along the way somewhere as well.

512
00:31:42.480 --> 00:31:45.960
So a lot of mistakes from BC's
offense in this one. But I thought

513
00:31:45.960 --> 00:31:49.480
the defense looked really good in this
game, besides maybe a few drives.

514
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:55.160
But I think the Lions this was
one of their better weeks in a while.

515
00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:59.319
I would say, Yeah, Tray
looked very, very uncomfortable trying to

516
00:31:59.319 --> 00:32:00.920
have in this scram But like you
said, I do think they took away

517
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:06.720
his rushing ability on that twenty and
twenty seven no picks, but the two

518
00:32:07.400 --> 00:32:10.799
you know, the two tds on
that in terms of you know, Kevin

519
00:32:10.839 --> 00:32:15.400
Brown pretty shut down as well,
not doing a lot. I don't know,

520
00:32:15.440 --> 00:32:17.440
I just it was exciting. I
mean, there was a lot of

521
00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:22.039
turnovers and I think there was a
fumbled or there was like a punt return

522
00:32:22.119 --> 00:32:24.039
for long. I mean, it
seemed it seemed a little more back and

523
00:32:24.039 --> 00:32:29.400
forth and maybe the score would would
dictate here at the end. I don't

524
00:32:29.440 --> 00:32:32.000
know. I had predicted Edmonton the
other way on this. Do you feel

525
00:32:32.240 --> 00:32:36.759
should I feel more confident now BC
headed in now to the kind of final

526
00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:39.839
stretch? Well, I actually picked
Edmonton to win this game as well on

527
00:32:39.880 --> 00:32:44.079
my channel, so you're not alone
on that. But I mean, I

528
00:32:44.200 --> 00:32:46.839
still have confidence in BC even if
they had lost this game Edmonton. I

529
00:32:46.880 --> 00:32:50.920
just had a lot of faith in
going into this game. Does the vibes

530
00:32:50.960 --> 00:32:54.240
around that team, But clearly BC
is still the better team between these two.

531
00:32:54.279 --> 00:32:58.799
I think the talent really the talent
gap really showed in this one,

532
00:32:58.839 --> 00:33:00.359
and I thought that you, like
I said, if it wasn't for the

533
00:33:00.359 --> 00:33:06.160
turnovers, this game could have been
like a twenty point deficit. You're getting

534
00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:08.279
in Tae Kwon and Mizzell back in
here. You know, obviously we had

535
00:33:08.279 --> 00:33:10.759
talked about kind of the lack of
rushing the last couple of weeks, and

536
00:33:10.839 --> 00:33:14.799
you're playing from behind. Good to
see him there on that. Like,

537
00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:20.599
I just I love Vernon. I
just sending Vernon can throw you thirty thirty

538
00:33:20.599 --> 00:33:23.680
five times. I think you need
to kind of have a more developed offense

539
00:33:23.759 --> 00:33:28.880
there with that. In terms of
oh, I had a comment that was

540
00:33:28.880 --> 00:33:32.480
gonna lose. Oh here I was
looking ahead next week Saskatchewan at BC,

541
00:33:32.759 --> 00:33:37.240
I would say, oh, well, that's a that's a k qualk.

542
00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:40.079
I don't I don't feel that way
right now. What do you think of

543
00:33:40.119 --> 00:33:45.279
a hungry Saskatchewan going into BC next
week? Well, I mean it's it's

544
00:33:45.319 --> 00:33:49.039
it's tough to say given what we
saw the last two times. So the

545
00:33:49.079 --> 00:33:52.440
last time these two teams played where
Saskatchewan upset BC, and that was one

546
00:33:52.440 --> 00:33:57.400
of the upsets of the season at
that point. So you can't count Saskatchewan

547
00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:00.839
out. But I think this time
BC is going to remember that game and

548
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:04.200
they're gonna be able to win that
game at home. But you know,

549
00:34:04.440 --> 00:34:07.159
nobody can be counted out in this
CFL this year. There's very few like

550
00:34:07.360 --> 00:34:10.880
teams that are just you know that
just lay down and uh, you know,

551
00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:14.559
don't put up a fight. So
I think that will be a close

552
00:34:14.639 --> 00:34:17.440
game, but I think BC will
probably win it. It's so funny when

553
00:34:17.760 --> 00:34:22.079
talking with Derek Taylor, with the
Blue Bombers last week on Thereby and you

554
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:25.119
know, we were talking about because
you know, obviously winning PEG had just

555
00:34:25.159 --> 00:34:28.840
lost to Hamilton and that big game, and he said, you know,

556
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:31.719
it was the same thing last year
and hey, you know you're playing Hamilton's

557
00:34:31.840 --> 00:34:37.159
right before the bye that they didn't
show up whatever, same thing this year.

558
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:39.519
Like you know, he's like,
it doesn't know if it's human nature

559
00:34:39.559 --> 00:34:43.400
or something like there is something to
be said for that, Like you know,

560
00:34:43.639 --> 00:34:46.760
like your BC and now the Saskatchewan
like who cares whatever? Playing down?

561
00:34:46.760 --> 00:34:51.360
I mean, look what happened to
the Cowboys at the Cardinals here yesterday.

562
00:34:51.440 --> 00:34:53.360
Like I think, you know,
certain teams you just think you can

563
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:55.920
sleep walk through. And then we
saw what happened with BC a couple of

564
00:34:55.920 --> 00:34:59.480
those games on that. Do you
have any comments on that? And then

565
00:34:59.480 --> 00:35:01.000
I have a question for you.
Yeah. I mean that's just the nature

566
00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:06.480
of football really is that you know, any any given Sunday or Saturday or

567
00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:09.239
whenever they're playing in the CFL.
So I mean, at the end of

568
00:35:09.280 --> 00:35:13.159
the day, any team could beat
any team. And we've seen that this

569
00:35:13.239 --> 00:35:16.199
year. Look at Ottawa beating Winnipeg
earlier this year. That was crazy.

570
00:35:16.800 --> 00:35:21.320
In terms of Trey you said,
you know, obviously BC kind of keeping

571
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:25.119
him locked down. Does this give
you cause for concern with tray Forward moving

572
00:35:25.159 --> 00:35:29.880
forward? Have teams starting to develop
defenses against him? Or is this just

573
00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:32.679
like BC played really well well,
this will definitely be something that he has

574
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:36.440
to work through. I think that, you know, teams are going to

575
00:35:36.480 --> 00:35:39.119
have adjustments, and like I was
saying before, like the first handful the

576
00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:44.000
ten starts in the CFL, you
may be able to catch defenses off guard.

577
00:35:44.039 --> 00:35:45.440
I mean, you look at dust
and Crumb with that running ability.

578
00:35:45.480 --> 00:35:49.639
When he first came in, he
was able to really torch teams with his

579
00:35:49.760 --> 00:35:52.760
legs. But I think that,
you know, eventually teams adjusted and made

580
00:35:52.760 --> 00:35:57.000
it tougher for him. But I
think that tray Forward is a little different.

581
00:35:57.039 --> 00:36:00.039
I think that tray Forward is a
much more dynamic athlete and not all

582
00:36:00.119 --> 00:36:05.880
teams have the defensive personnel to kind
of slow him down like BC did.

583
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:09.159
I think BC has a lot of
team speed on that defense. The defensive

584
00:36:09.199 --> 00:36:14.199
line for BC such a mismatch against
the Edmonton offensive line, and I think,

585
00:36:14.360 --> 00:36:15.679
you know, Matthew Beats, he
had a massive game and this one,

586
00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:19.880
so that was really good to see
for BC. But I think in

587
00:36:19.960 --> 00:36:22.199
terms of forward going forward, yes, he's gonna have games like this where

588
00:36:22.199 --> 00:36:25.719
he struggles to pass the ball.
It's just something that he's going to have

589
00:36:25.800 --> 00:36:30.280
to improve on as we go forward. But he has been blessed with incredible

590
00:36:30.320 --> 00:36:32.639
gifts in terms of his athleticism,
So I think that, you know,

591
00:36:34.360 --> 00:36:37.519
with that in mind, I think
he'll he'll be able to, you know,

592
00:36:37.880 --> 00:36:42.000
still piece together some good performances down
the stretch here and not completely hit

593
00:36:42.039 --> 00:36:45.199
a wall. Yeah, he said
Bats had a really good game. Really

594
00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:47.519
came after Trey either kind of friend
of the show there on. That so

595
00:36:47.639 --> 00:36:53.480
good to see. I don't know, I think BC I just worry about,

596
00:36:53.639 --> 00:36:57.639
Like I see this again. I
see them going in to Winnipeg.

597
00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:00.199
I see the defense giving up a
couple of lows, you know, drives

598
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:05.679
Winnipeg goes down, and then BC's
struggling to keep up and Vernon kind of

599
00:37:06.199 --> 00:37:08.719
having to do too much. Like
I think the defense has to keep Vernon

600
00:37:08.920 --> 00:37:12.559
kind of calm in that where it's
like, okay, I can just kind

601
00:37:12.559 --> 00:37:15.280
of go out. I don't feel
like I have to make up all these

602
00:37:15.320 --> 00:37:17.440
points on my own. They need
to keep things manageable. I don't know

603
00:37:17.480 --> 00:37:21.280
what do you make of that,
like Vernon's headspace going into the kind of

604
00:37:21.280 --> 00:37:25.000
the playoffs there. Yeah, I
mean he's just such a frustrating player and

605
00:37:25.000 --> 00:37:29.920
he's always been like this, like
ever since he became a starting quarterback in

606
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:32.480
the CFL. I mean, probably
the best version of himself was in twenty

607
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:37.360
nineteen with Montreal where he was a
borderline MLP candidate in the East Division.

608
00:37:37.440 --> 00:37:40.360
And I think, you know,
even then he had a lot of up

609
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:45.320
and down games. I mean there's
there's games with him that you know,

610
00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:47.480
just the decision making just isn't there. I Mean, I used to say

611
00:37:47.480 --> 00:37:52.880
his biggest week this was his accuracy
because he used to be a lot less

612
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:54.519
accurate of a passer. It used
to be like in the fifty percent,

613
00:37:54.800 --> 00:37:58.800
you know range in terms of a
passer. But I think, you know,

614
00:37:58.880 --> 00:38:01.599
that's aspect to his game has really
improved. And I think it's more

615
00:38:01.599 --> 00:38:05.920
so the decision making. At this
point, he just cannot throw the game

616
00:38:05.960 --> 00:38:08.280
away for the Lions, and I
think that that's going to be the key

617
00:38:08.280 --> 00:38:12.559
when they go into that match up
against Winnipeg, because it's really looking like

618
00:38:12.639 --> 00:38:15.159
that game is going to decide a
lot in the CFL. And it's worth

619
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:19.840
noting that that game is in BC, so it'll be interesting to see what

620
00:38:19.920 --> 00:38:23.199
happens in that game and ultimately who
gets the tiebreaker there, because it looks

621
00:38:23.199 --> 00:38:27.800
like whoever wins that game is gonna
finish first in the West. Yeah,

622
00:38:27.840 --> 00:38:30.840
and I was looking and I need
to talk with Dorothy about this. I

623
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:34.559
think that that can that could be
a doable game here going up to BC,

624
00:38:34.840 --> 00:38:37.280
especially at the seven o'clock start.
We'll see about that. I think

625
00:38:37.280 --> 00:38:40.079
we have dinner, dinner party the
next day, but I would like to

626
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:47.239
be there for that. I just
you know, looking forward to the playoffs.

627
00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:52.440
Yeah, if this is in ig
Field, I just don't I just

628
00:38:52.480 --> 00:38:55.320
think you get frazzled, and I
get frazzled as a fan latch and I

629
00:38:55.360 --> 00:39:00.000
couldn't imagine being there and having forty
thousand people with ever screaming and yeah,

630
00:39:00.000 --> 00:39:01.360
and then kind of all that stuff. Like I just think it's really easy

631
00:39:01.400 --> 00:39:05.360
to let the game slip out of
hand on that And I think Mayor gets

632
00:39:05.360 --> 00:39:08.079
that way sometimes too with Calgary,
Like you just you get frustrated and you're

633
00:39:08.079 --> 00:39:12.480
trying to do too much. I
mean obviously we've seen Dane Evans kind of

634
00:39:12.480 --> 00:39:15.840
do that in the past as well, but we'll see this would be exciting.

635
00:39:15.920 --> 00:39:19.519
The seven o'clock on the sixth might
have to I mean that could be

636
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:25.119
literally like the playoff preview there for
sure. For sure. Anything else on

637
00:39:25.159 --> 00:39:30.199
this one, Vernon defense looking good. My Zella running, we talked about

638
00:39:30.239 --> 00:39:32.440
that. Keyan Hatcher had a day
on that. No tds, but obviously

639
00:39:34.039 --> 00:39:37.039
huge targets on that. I saw
him running around. Anything else from the

640
00:39:37.039 --> 00:39:42.280
BC or Evanton side, yeah,
I mean you mentioned Hatcher, I was

641
00:39:42.320 --> 00:39:45.880
gonna shout him out. Javon Katy
had a really nice catch and run in

642
00:39:45.920 --> 00:39:49.559
this one for a touchdown, So
that was nice to see from him.

643
00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:51.880
Like I said, I've said this
a million times, specs, he just

644
00:39:51.920 --> 00:39:54.039
had so many weapons. I mean, Javon Katy might be the fourth fifth

645
00:39:54.039 --> 00:39:59.519
option in that offense and he could
still create some dynamic plays for them.

646
00:39:59.559 --> 00:40:02.280
And then on the Edmonton side,
Jake Serezna I thought had a really good

647
00:40:02.320 --> 00:40:07.880
game pressuring Vernon. I thought that
the Edmonton defense wasn't that poor in this

648
00:40:07.920 --> 00:40:12.920
game. I thought that in terms
of the run defense was probably where it

649
00:40:13.039 --> 00:40:15.559
was the biggest Achilles Heel Mizell had
a really good game for BC, So

650
00:40:16.000 --> 00:40:20.800
I mean, I think Serezda had
a really good game. And then Dylan

651
00:40:20.880 --> 00:40:23.239
Mitchell, a wide receiver that I
was really high on going into the season,

652
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:28.239
had a pretty good game for Edmonton. So that was good to see

653
00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:30.239
from him. Yeah, sures,
It's good to see him kind of.

654
00:40:30.280 --> 00:40:35.320
He's had a tough season. I
know he had some injuries, so,

655
00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:37.559
right, wasn't he involved in some
of the Missoli whatever? And I think

656
00:40:37.559 --> 00:40:39.920
he was fined a little bit.
Like he's a friend of the show he's

657
00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:43.679
been on in the past, Like, good to see him kind of because

658
00:40:43.719 --> 00:40:45.079
I don't know, I think it
was probably a kind of a messy first

659
00:40:45.079 --> 00:40:47.239
half of the year for him with
a lot of that stuff going on.

660
00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:52.280
So good to see him bounce back
from that, because you know, I'm

661
00:40:52.320 --> 00:40:55.159
like, God, what was the
guy's face, the Garrett what was the

662
00:40:55.360 --> 00:40:59.719
Garret Marino? Yeah, I don't
I don't think Serezda is going in there

663
00:40:59.719 --> 00:41:01.480
like, you know, trying to
trying to rough up or do whatever.

664
00:41:01.559 --> 00:41:05.360
I think, you know, I
think I think you get caught up in

665
00:41:05.360 --> 00:41:07.280
the moment sometimes. I think there's
a lot of that. Yeah, for

666
00:41:07.320 --> 00:41:12.360
sure. And I think the thing
with Marino, it was just the way

667
00:41:12.400 --> 00:41:15.800
he acted after he did that,
and just the way that you know,

668
00:41:15.840 --> 00:41:17.719
he never really, you know,
apologize for it. Look at Pete Robertson

669
00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:21.440
when he did that head butt a
few weeks ago to Claris, and we

670
00:41:21.480 --> 00:41:23.519
don't really talk about that now because
you know, he was a man he

671
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:28.519
talked about, accept the responsibility for
it, apologize to Claris for it.

672
00:41:28.599 --> 00:41:31.360
So you know, water under the
bridge from that point. So I think

673
00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:35.840
the thing with Marino was just yeah
he did. He just had that reputation,

674
00:41:36.920 --> 00:41:40.559
that head but still wild. I
remember showing Dorothy that, like what

675
00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:45.480
is going on here? So what
is this? So Edmonton on the late

676
00:41:45.519 --> 00:41:50.840
bye here week sixteen, right on
the bye and then they're going into Toronto

677
00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:53.440
again, we don't know what Toronto
looks like here Edmonton? Are they are?

678
00:41:53.719 --> 00:41:57.039
We totally out of it? I
mean, do they have any chance

679
00:41:57.079 --> 00:42:00.199
here? You tracked this stuff better
than I do. Yeah, I think

680
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:02.519
they're cooked. I think I think
they're I think they're done because now they

681
00:42:02.599 --> 00:42:07.880
picked up an eleventh loss that's even
more losses than Calgary has, and I

682
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:10.760
mean I'm really low on Calgary's chances. At this point, Edmonton doesn't have

683
00:42:10.800 --> 00:42:16.119
the tiebreaker over Saskatchewan or Calgary,
so that's not good news for them,

684
00:42:16.159 --> 00:42:22.239
and I don't think there's really much
more than a mathematical chance of them making

685
00:42:22.239 --> 00:42:24.800
the playoffs at this point. Well, the good news is we've lived through

686
00:42:24.800 --> 00:42:30.440
this long enough now that I think
Chris Jones is going to be there next

687
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:31.719
year. I think people are going
to be happy. I think trade Board

688
00:42:31.800 --> 00:42:36.039
is going to be the quarterback.
Like everything that we've lived through this year,

689
00:42:36.079 --> 00:42:39.679
I do think that's probably what I
don't see. I'm like, you

690
00:42:39.719 --> 00:42:43.480
know, even just you know,
six weeks ago, Like I mean,

691
00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:45.719
I am I wrong in that I
see them for trotting this out to get

692
00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:47.280
next year though, Yeah, I
mean I bet they might as well,

693
00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:52.679
given how they've kind of turned their
their second half of their season around and

694
00:42:52.159 --> 00:42:57.079
like so they don't have to deal
with those like football operations penalties as well.

695
00:42:57.159 --> 00:43:00.280
So I think, yeah, Chris
Jones is probably pretty safe at this

696
00:43:00.360 --> 00:43:07.079
point going in here, let me
get this last game here, the early

697
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:10.719
Friday night game feels a little bit
like the Battle of the Mids. Here.

698
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:15.039
We got this Saskatchewan going into Ottawa. What did you make of this

699
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:19.039
one twenty eight two thirty six.
Yeah, I think the story in this

700
00:43:19.079 --> 00:43:22.599
game was Saskatchewan played pretty well out
of the gates. They had a couple

701
00:43:22.599 --> 00:43:25.719
of nice touchdown drives to begin the
game. But right at the end of

702
00:43:25.760 --> 00:43:30.239
the first half, there was a
sequence with less than a minute left where

703
00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:34.840
Jake Dalagalla throws a pick six two. I think it's DeAndre lamont As,

704
00:43:34.920 --> 00:43:37.800
the guy's name for Ottawa, and
so we got to pick six and then

705
00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:43.519
they get the ball back and then
Jake Dalagala fumbles the next play and they

706
00:43:43.599 --> 00:43:45.239
get a field goal out of it. So that's a ten point swing in

707
00:43:45.280 --> 00:43:49.360
the last minute of the first half, and Ottawa was able to carry that

708
00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:52.599
momentum forward and made a ton of
big defensive plays in the second half,

709
00:43:52.960 --> 00:43:58.119
got a couple of more takeaways,
so they were able to finally break that

710
00:43:58.239 --> 00:44:01.320
losing shriek. Yeah. I mean, if you're a Saskatchewan here, you

711
00:44:01.360 --> 00:44:05.119
know, and you're looking at the
standings, where is my standings tab?

712
00:44:05.519 --> 00:44:08.119
Like, I mean this, I
don't know if this is more worse than

713
00:44:08.159 --> 00:44:10.599
the ABC drop in some of these
games, like how do you drop a

714
00:44:10.639 --> 00:44:14.360
game to Ottaway? Here? Going
in when you're still in playoff contention.

715
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:16.880
It's just it's crazy to me.
Yeah, I mean, like this was

716
00:44:16.920 --> 00:44:21.760
a game I had circled when I
was doing that playoff Scenarios video last week,

717
00:44:22.280 --> 00:44:27.199
because I was factoring in the possibility
of Calgary getting a win and you

718
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:30.119
know, getting close to the Saskatchewan
really making them pay for losing this game,

719
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:34.920
because I thought that, you know, Sascatch will probably beat Ottawa,

720
00:44:35.000 --> 00:44:37.440
but if they do, they open
the door for other teams behind them to

721
00:44:37.440 --> 00:44:40.880
to you know, kind of catch
up. But unfortunately, none of those

722
00:44:40.920 --> 00:44:45.960
teams took advantage of it this week, Edmonton included. So I mean,

723
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:50.719
yeah, just weird week. We're
really nothing changed in terms of the standings,

724
00:44:50.719 --> 00:44:54.360
but very disappointing, you know,
game for saskatchwe regardless. I just

725
00:44:54.519 --> 00:44:58.159
you know, Ottawa has literally nothing, I mean, they have less than

726
00:44:58.199 --> 00:45:00.000
nothing to play for at this point. I just I just can't figure out

727
00:45:00.079 --> 00:45:07.639
going in crumb. It looks pretty
good here, not running, wow,

728
00:45:07.679 --> 00:45:09.320
I guess right, yeah, fifty
three yards, I guess kind of screwing

729
00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:13.800
around here. Did you do,
Dustin? Or are we are we higher

730
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:16.880
lower on him than you were a
week ago? Probably higher I think that,

731
00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:20.840
you know, I was not totally
out on him. I think he's

732
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:23.119
had some games where he's kept the
team in it, and you know,

733
00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:27.880
just the situation around him. Again, like I said, like Taylor Powell,

734
00:45:27.960 --> 00:45:30.559
he's a true rookie, so it's
hard to expect too much from him.

735
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:34.559
But I think he's learning a bit
each week. And I think that

736
00:45:34.800 --> 00:45:37.920
Ottawa could easily have a couple of
more wins right now. I mean,

737
00:45:37.960 --> 00:45:40.760
they had the game that I went
to against Montreal where they completely collapsed in

738
00:45:40.760 --> 00:45:45.519
the fourth quarter. Obviously that game
a couple of weeks ago against BC,

739
00:45:45.760 --> 00:45:49.440
So I mean that's two wins right
there. So they could easily have six

740
00:45:49.519 --> 00:45:52.719
seven wins right now and be running
the thick of things. But obviously the

741
00:45:52.760 --> 00:45:58.760
season didn't go that way for them
last week. People calling for Bob Dyce's

742
00:45:58.800 --> 00:46:01.920
head. Are we feeling they're worse
now? I don't think he's the guy.

743
00:46:02.119 --> 00:46:06.280
I just don't. I have just
some of the decisions I've seen this

744
00:46:06.400 --> 00:46:08.039
year, I just don't really have
faith. I know a lot of the

745
00:46:08.079 --> 00:46:13.159
players like him. He's that classic
players coach that you know everybody's kind of

746
00:46:13.239 --> 00:46:16.800
douched for over there. But I
mean I'm always skeptical when teams hire.

747
00:46:17.280 --> 00:46:21.519
You know, a lot of people
are like the promoting from within, like

748
00:46:21.559 --> 00:46:23.840
in terms of football, like those
pro sports, in terms of you know,

749
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:28.599
hiring their head coach and whatnot.
But I've always kind of skeptical of

750
00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:31.679
that because I'm like, is the
best person really inside your building? What

751
00:46:31.719 --> 00:46:36.119
are the odds that the best person
is really inside your building? And I

752
00:46:36.119 --> 00:46:38.159
think that, you know, Bob
Dice is probably one of those guys that's

753
00:46:38.159 --> 00:46:43.679
better suited for a coordinator role in
the CFL obviously has done that very successfully

754
00:46:43.719 --> 00:46:46.599
for a long time, especially on
Ottawa special teams. But I think,

755
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:50.159
you know, in terms of being
a head coach, the lead guy,

756
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:52.800
I don't think he has it.
It's hard. I like him. I

757
00:46:52.840 --> 00:46:55.360
think he's a really good guy.
I think he's a good leader of man.

758
00:46:55.440 --> 00:46:59.599
It's it's just hard. It's like
you said, promote you within.

759
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:01.639
It's kind like you know, Jason
Moss kind of getting fired and getting the

760
00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:07.639
promotion and Montreal like, I don't
know, we talked. We talked a

761
00:47:07.639 --> 00:47:10.639
lot about this, like in the
corporate world that you you know, you

762
00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:17.039
fail up until you or like you
get promoted up until the only way to

763
00:47:17.039 --> 00:47:20.960
know, like basically your ceiling is
to go there and then kind of fail

764
00:47:21.079 --> 00:47:22.800
or not do a good job at
that. But like you know, you

765
00:47:22.840 --> 00:47:24.159
just keep writing that. But okay, like this is you know, this

766
00:47:24.199 --> 00:47:27.800
is where my ceiling is. And
so, like you said, maybe that's

767
00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:30.840
where it is. I don't know
where Ottawa goes from here. With obviously

768
00:47:30.880 --> 00:47:34.599
we had the lot police stuff.
In hindsight, was that good to get

769
00:47:34.679 --> 00:47:37.440
rid of him? I mean,
do you feel like that has testimonally changed

770
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:40.119
anything? Well, I think he
was kind of the same thing. I

771
00:47:40.159 --> 00:47:44.480
feel like he was a head coach
before he was in Ottawa. He was

772
00:47:44.519 --> 00:47:49.360
with Winnipeg back in the day and
then funny enough, actually became Winnipeg's offensive

773
00:47:49.360 --> 00:47:52.639
coordinator later on, I came back
to Winnipeg and then obviously got the job

774
00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:57.239
in Ottawa. But I don't think
he's really, you know what CFL head

775
00:47:57.280 --> 00:48:00.480
coach either, even though you know
he has a bit of experience from that.

776
00:48:00.559 --> 00:48:02.800
So, I mean they had to
make a change last year. I

777
00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:07.119
don't think that was the wrong move, moving off of Powell a police as

778
00:48:07.159 --> 00:48:10.360
the head coach in Ottawa. But
I think at the end of the day,

779
00:48:12.039 --> 00:48:14.719
the dice higher just wasn't the right
one to make. I think they

780
00:48:14.760 --> 00:48:17.320
needed to look outside the organization.
But I mean that's a kind of a

781
00:48:17.360 --> 00:48:22.559
general problem the CFL, that the
coaching talent pool is pretty low, and

782
00:48:22.639 --> 00:48:27.400
with this football operations caps it kind
of limits like how much they can pay

783
00:48:27.440 --> 00:48:30.039
and how much you know, you
know, head coaches can assemble like a

784
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:35.719
proper coaching staff around them. So
yeah, I don't know where Ottawa goes

785
00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:37.599
from here. I don't know if
they get rid of Dice, they probably

786
00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:43.199
hold onto them for another year just
because of that operations cap. But we'll

787
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:45.599
have to see what they do.
Yeah, I think you need to be

788
00:48:45.599 --> 00:48:46.719
able to you know, and I
get the players and all that. You

789
00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:49.880
got the seller cap and that.
I think you need to be able to

790
00:48:49.960 --> 00:48:52.400
allow some of these teams and you
know I have. I mean, like

791
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:55.719
BC is fined right now through Campbell. But like you know, if Amar

792
00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:59.440
Doman like, yeah, we want
to make some moves here to bring it

793
00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:00.239
with whatever, like you should be
able to do that. I mean,

794
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:04.000
you see that down in the NFL, and like you know, like the

795
00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:07.400
Walmart family with the Broncos, Hey
let's bring in champagne, Let's do all

796
00:49:07.440 --> 00:49:08.760
the you know, we see,
let me see how that worked out.

797
00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:13.159
But what and this is I put
you on the side. What's the highest

798
00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:16.719
scoring the CFL ever has been.
Obviously we saw the seventy to twenty Broncos

799
00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:21.920
Miami Dolphins game. Well, I
remember there was a great Cup. I

800
00:49:21.960 --> 00:49:24.559
don't think this is the highest scoring
game ever, but there was a great

801
00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:28.599
Cup in the nineteen nineties. I
think it was the last one before twenty

802
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:31.280
twenty one. That was in Hamilton's
and it was Edmonton versus Toronto, and

803
00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:36.320
I believe it was in a full
out blizzard. It was like forty to

804
00:49:36.400 --> 00:49:39.480
forty something like it was. It
was like a classic game. I think.

805
00:49:39.760 --> 00:49:44.119
You know, the nineties were pretty
high scoring if I do recall correctly.

806
00:49:44.440 --> 00:49:46.840
And I mean we did see some
really high scoring games in the early

807
00:49:46.920 --> 00:49:51.159
twenty tens when we had you know, these great quarterbacks, you know,

808
00:49:51.360 --> 00:49:54.760
Anthony Calvio, Henry Burros, Ricky
Ray all those guys were really at the

809
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:59.559
height of their powers. So we
saw a lot of shootouts. But you

810
00:49:59.599 --> 00:50:02.599
know, that's probably the highest that
I can remember the CFL being. All

811
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:07.000
Right, I got I got it
here. One hundred and eleven points BC

812
00:50:07.239 --> 00:50:15.639
sixty eight to forty three against Toronto. Damn, that's really exciting. That

813
00:50:15.719 --> 00:50:16.840
was exciting. But you know,
because I saw a lot of like,

814
00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:21.400
you know, the just speaking of
this, like the Hodges of the world,

815
00:50:21.480 --> 00:50:23.840
and I'm like, yeah, there's
no fun league down in the Maryland.

816
00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:27.239
You know, we got the fun, fast, exciting football up in

817
00:50:27.280 --> 00:50:30.920
Canada. But here you so there
you go, sixty eight sixty eight points

818
00:50:30.960 --> 00:50:35.079
in the most teams. Circling back
to this before we get out of here,

819
00:50:35.440 --> 00:50:39.880
Saskatchewan, Della Gala. I still
hear people talking about Trevor Harris coming

820
00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:44.800
back this year, Like, I
don't does that make Does that do anything

821
00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:46.880
for you? Trevor Harris comes back
at this point, well, I think

822
00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:51.840
he would be their best option,
Like in a playoff scenario. I think

823
00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:54.519
Trevor has been you know that that's
a narrative that I think it is completely

824
00:50:54.599 --> 00:50:58.800
false that he's kind of a bad
player in playoff games, Like he has

825
00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:01.880
actually had some great playoff performances.
I think, you know, looking back

826
00:51:02.360 --> 00:51:07.679
that first year in Edmonton twenty nineteen, he had I think thirty three completions

827
00:51:07.880 --> 00:51:12.280
in a row to start the game
or something like that in that playoff game.

828
00:51:12.320 --> 00:51:15.039
One of the best playoff performances I've
ever seen. And then the year

829
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:17.480
before when he was with Ottawa,
he beat Hamilton. This is the last

830
00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:23.000
time that Hamilton has lost to Ottawa. He was with Ottawa and he threw

831
00:51:23.079 --> 00:51:27.960
six touchdown passes in the East Final
that year to send Ottawa to the Great

832
00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:30.840
Cups. So Trevor Harris has had
some big time playoff performances, and if

833
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:35.480
he's healthy down the stretch, I
mean, like, I think the big

834
00:51:35.480 --> 00:51:37.159
thing is like how likely is that? And how likely is he one hundred

835
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:42.079
percent? But you know, if
he's ready to go, I think they

836
00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:45.679
got to throw him out there because
I think he stands a better chance of

837
00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:50.320
keeping up with Vernon Adams or Jack
Clarence and a potential shootout in the West

838
00:51:50.320 --> 00:51:53.760
semi final. I get what you're
saying. I just I fundamentally have a

839
00:51:53.920 --> 00:51:58.760
have a problem with like, you
know, if you get to the dance

840
00:51:58.800 --> 00:52:01.440
with whatever guy and then bringing back
in Like, I get it. And

841
00:52:01.679 --> 00:52:07.480
it was the same thing last year
where we had Burnon Adams played fine,

842
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:09.719
right kind of we I think BC
had such a lead, you know,

843
00:52:09.719 --> 00:52:13.400
it's such a lead in the stand, like he didn't matter right and burning.

844
00:52:13.480 --> 00:52:15.679
You know, it was kind of
I think basically like fifty fifty.

845
00:52:15.760 --> 00:52:17.280
But god, you know, did
enough got him there? Obviously you're going

846
00:52:17.360 --> 00:52:21.880
to put in even Rourke who wasn't
one hundred percent Like okay, we're putting

847
00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:23.960
in the Nathan work here. I
just I don't know, you know,

848
00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:28.000
if Della Galla gets here, like
I don't know if he gets you there

849
00:52:28.039 --> 00:52:30.320
and you're really gonna pull him and
like, I get what you're saying.

850
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:34.000
And Trevor Harrison just to me,
it's it's it's disrespectful in that way.

851
00:52:34.039 --> 00:52:35.760
But I told, I mean,
I get it, like it's football and

852
00:52:35.800 --> 00:52:37.679
you kind of got to do it. Yeah, I mean, it's it's

853
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:40.880
just like I mean, it's easy
to pull for example, Taylor Powell off

854
00:52:40.880 --> 00:52:44.920
the game that he just had.
But we were talking last week, I

855
00:52:44.960 --> 00:52:50.039
mean people were like arguing amongst Tie
Cats fans, like who gets the start

856
00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:52.159
when Bow's healthy? Like does Bow
go back in there? How do you

857
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:54.559
take Powell out? At this point? That's what people were saying. But

858
00:52:54.960 --> 00:53:00.400
I think you know, some factors
play into this, like how my is

859
00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:04.559
the player getting paid? Like obviously
you know Bo was getting paid like five

860
00:53:04.639 --> 00:53:07.679
hundred and fifty thousand this year,
So I mean, I think, you

861
00:53:07.719 --> 00:53:10.760
know, Hamilton kind of like they
have that motivation to put him back in,

862
00:53:12.039 --> 00:53:15.400
and I think Sa scatch one's kind
of the same thing. So yeah,

863
00:53:15.400 --> 00:53:16.360
we'll have to see how it plays
out. But I do think there's

864
00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:20.639
something to be said, like you
said, for playing the young player or

865
00:53:20.679 --> 00:53:23.199
the player that got you there.
So now bitch to see how some of

866
00:53:23.239 --> 00:53:29.880
these teams navigate their quarterback situations as
we get towards the playoffs. Like obviously

867
00:53:30.239 --> 00:53:32.159
this is now a moot point and
the way that Zach Wilson has played the

868
00:53:32.199 --> 00:53:36.159
last two weeks, but you know
when when Rogers went down, there was

869
00:53:36.199 --> 00:53:38.559
all this like you know, if
he makes it back for the playoff,

870
00:53:38.599 --> 00:53:44.119
you know, because Rodgers is doing
some experimental whatever brace surgery, and whether

871
00:53:44.159 --> 00:53:46.440
it's like if Zach Wilson gets the
Jets to the playoff, like Zach Wilson

872
00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:49.559
is going to play them in the
player like going to play for them in

873
00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:52.800
the playoffs, like you can't you
know if you are even in that position.

874
00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:57.559
It's because of obviously the work that
Wilson has done. Anything else on

875
00:53:57.599 --> 00:54:01.039
this we can start looking forward to
next week. Anything else from Saskatchewan or

876
00:54:01.079 --> 00:54:05.000
Ottawa. I just I don't know. It's just a weird game here with

877
00:54:05.039 --> 00:54:07.039
Ottaway getting to win. Yeah,
just a quick shout out. I want

878
00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:12.079
to shut up Raylan Addison. He
is kind of the only CFL jersey I

879
00:54:12.079 --> 00:54:15.920
actually own from his time with the
Tie Cats. He scored his first touchdown

880
00:54:15.960 --> 00:54:19.079
in a long time. I think
it might have been since twenty nineteen in

881
00:54:19.119 --> 00:54:22.440
this one. He's had terrible luck
with injury issues, so it's good to

882
00:54:22.440 --> 00:54:24.519
see him get back on the field
the last handful of weeks and got his

883
00:54:24.519 --> 00:54:30.159
first touchdown and this one had at
a pretty good game. Yeah, it's

884
00:54:30.199 --> 00:54:32.840
interesting, so high enough on him
that you'd buy the jersey. Yeah.

885
00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:37.559
Well, in twenty nineteen he was
CFL All Stars, so like he was,

886
00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:40.239
him and Brandon Banks were like the
best receiving combo in the CFL.

887
00:54:40.480 --> 00:54:45.079
I think he had like thirteen hundred
yards, so he had that one great

888
00:54:45.159 --> 00:54:46.800
year. And I mean he was
a big star at Oregon as well,

889
00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:52.760
so I was a big fan of
him. And unfortunately in twenty twenty one

890
00:54:52.840 --> 00:54:57.440
when he came back, he actually
changed his number two number zero, So

891
00:54:57.800 --> 00:55:00.599
right after I just bought his number
eighties sixth Jersey, So you know,

892
00:55:00.719 --> 00:55:05.159
just my luck, but I'm a
big fan of his game. You can't

893
00:55:05.199 --> 00:55:07.719
do that. What I can't remember
who is it? I think one of

894
00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:09.760
the guys for the Vikings or something
Switzer numbers. And then they said if

895
00:55:09.800 --> 00:55:13.360
you if you bring it like I'll
give you, you can swap it out

896
00:55:13.360 --> 00:55:17.239
like you can slap it out for
the new one. Looking ahead here,

897
00:55:17.519 --> 00:55:22.440
I'm too far ahead time travel Week
seventeen. We've talked about this Toronto weird

898
00:55:22.599 --> 00:55:25.679
roster SLF. What do you think? I was talking with Derek Taylor last

899
00:55:25.960 --> 00:55:29.719
like, what does Toronto do here? On paper? You're like, Oh,

900
00:55:29.760 --> 00:55:31.239
this is a huge matchup when you
kind of think about it, Winnipeg

901
00:55:31.280 --> 00:55:35.880
has a lot more to gain here. Yeah, I don't really know what

902
00:55:35.960 --> 00:55:38.920
they're going to do because I mean, like, I don't think they want

903
00:55:38.920 --> 00:55:43.880
to go in there and get their
doors blasted off by Winnipeg. And I

904
00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:46.039
don't think they're gonna be sitting a
whole bunch of players in this one,

905
00:55:46.239 --> 00:55:50.519
considering there are about five weeks out
from the end of the regular season,

906
00:55:50.679 --> 00:55:53.159
So I don't think they're gonna be
resting a ton of players in this one.

907
00:55:53.400 --> 00:55:55.519
But at the same time, I
don't think they want to reveal too

908
00:55:55.639 --> 00:56:01.159
much because of the potential likelihood of
a great Cup matchup in the coming months

909
00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:05.519
here, But it will be very
interesting to see how that game plays out.

910
00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:07.920
Obviously we're looking, you know,
like a handful of weeks ago.

911
00:56:08.199 --> 00:56:12.239
That game was one of the games
that we were circling. But I'm not

912
00:56:12.320 --> 00:56:15.880
too sure it's really going to live
up to any kind of hype. So

913
00:56:15.239 --> 00:56:19.440
I'll be interesting to see how that
one plays out. Yeah, I'm looking

914
00:56:19.480 --> 00:56:22.719
here. If you're if you're BC, you cannot you cannot lose this game,

915
00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:27.880
especially with Winnipeg coming in the next
week. Like you're back to back

916
00:56:27.920 --> 00:56:31.119
home. You don't have to travel
like this to me because you know,

917
00:56:31.280 --> 00:56:35.000
if you're looking further ahead here right, Okay, we're going in to Hamilton.

918
00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:38.840
Yeah, sorry, you know Calgary
is coming in. Uh, this

919
00:56:38.920 --> 00:56:42.360
is a must win. You gotta
do this. You gotta pile the wins

920
00:56:42.400 --> 00:56:44.719
and then you got Winnipeg the next
week. Like this has to be a

921
00:56:44.719 --> 00:56:46.679
get ride game for BC. Let's
shut down, Dala, glad. Do

922
00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:50.559
you have any other opinions on that? Yeah, I think it will be

923
00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:54.280
huge for BC if they could just
have the same records as Winnipeg going into

924
00:56:54.320 --> 00:57:00.000
that matchup next week, So and
two weeks I should say against Winnipeg,

925
00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:02.840
because then if they win, they'll
have the tiebreaker plus be one game ahead

926
00:57:02.880 --> 00:57:07.199
of Winnipeg. Whereas if they lose
and then Winnipeg wins this week, then

927
00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:12.559
if they win the following week,
they would be tied and they would have

928
00:57:12.599 --> 00:57:15.800
the tiebreaker, but they would be
tied in terms of the actual records.

929
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:21.320
So if they win this game,
they keep pace with Winnipeg and they win

930
00:57:21.400 --> 00:57:24.119
next week, they will have a
very good path for first place in the

931
00:57:24.119 --> 00:57:31.400
West. They're looking here in Montreal
at Ottawa. I got what do you

932
00:57:31.400 --> 00:57:34.760
you know? I mean, you
should be a slam dun for the Alulettes.

933
00:57:34.800 --> 00:57:37.800
You have any different opinions? Yeah, I mean, like I was

934
00:57:37.840 --> 00:57:40.840
saying before both of these games last
year. This year, they played each

935
00:57:40.840 --> 00:57:45.679
other twice, once in Week one
where it was a seven point victory for

936
00:57:45.719 --> 00:57:49.079
the Alolettes. That was a game
that Nick Arbuckle started. And then the

937
00:57:49.119 --> 00:57:52.400
other game was the game I went
to in Ottawa and Ottwa blue an eleven

938
00:57:52.480 --> 00:57:57.760
point lead with four minutes left in
the game. So Ottawa easily, could

939
00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:00.800
you know of split those two games
that point? And so I think it's

940
00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:06.280
gonna be very very interesting to see
if Ottawa can take a game or two

941
00:58:06.440 --> 00:58:08.960
off of the Alouettes in these this
home and home here, and it would

942
00:58:08.960 --> 00:58:14.639
really kind of shake up the East
standings, especially for Tiger Cats fans.

943
00:58:15.440 --> 00:58:17.440
Are you going to be going to
the Calgary game? Ah, yes,

944
00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:22.559
I will be, I will be. I'll be. It's actually McMaster University

945
00:58:22.639 --> 00:58:25.440
homecoming that week, so that day, I should say, So, it's

946
00:58:25.440 --> 00:58:30.719
gonna be very busy the restaurant that
I work at, but I'm we working

947
00:58:30.800 --> 00:58:32.360
during the day and then I'm gonna
be a running rate to the game at

948
00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:37.480
seven o'clock Eastern. Well, good, well at no Evan today, maybe

949
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:42.000
he was in class or asleep.
We appreciate it, hopefully. I assume

950
00:58:42.039 --> 00:58:45.159
he's okay. I hope everything's fine
with that. Jason and I are kind

951
00:58:45.199 --> 00:58:47.599
of locking this down here for the
for the episode. I appreciate that.

952
00:58:49.239 --> 00:58:52.719
Obviously, we have a lot of
xfl USFL stuff going on. We talked

953
00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:55.920
about doing kind of a welfare check
episode today. I don't know if people's

954
00:58:55.920 --> 00:59:00.360
schedules will accommodate that, but kind
of keep track. I do know I

955
00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:02.880
have Rod Smith coming on this week. I think we're going to record Wednesday

956
00:59:02.920 --> 00:59:06.559
preview in the games for the weekend
for the CFL, so that should be

957
00:59:06.599 --> 00:59:09.480
good, and I need to send
out some emails to see if we can

958
00:59:09.519 --> 00:59:14.480
get some players on. But otherwise
I'm sure Andy your Path or someone will

959
00:59:14.519 --> 00:59:16.360
come on to kind of react to
the XFL stuff. I Jason, anything

960
00:59:16.400 --> 00:59:20.760
else from you? What are you
working on? Not too much. I'm

961
00:59:20.760 --> 00:59:23.719
trying to think what I'm going on
this week. Obviously, I have my

962
00:59:23.880 --> 00:59:29.320
NFL show on Tuesday nights with Coast
to Coast Gridiron. That's who I collab

963
00:59:29.440 --> 00:59:34.519
with for that. So that is
available at nine pm Eastern Tomorrow night on

964
00:59:34.599 --> 00:59:38.960
his channel and then post my channel
on Wednesday morning, So check that out.

965
00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:45.039
Been a new podcast over there,
and then you'll probably have a couple

966
00:59:45.039 --> 00:59:49.239
of CFL videos sprinkled in this week
with obviously the preview for week seventeen.

967
00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:52.280
Yeah, be kind. You know
Sam how it was only his fourth career

968
00:59:52.360 --> 00:59:55.239
start, So let's not go too
crazy here with you know, marrying the

969
00:59:55.280 --> 00:59:59.920
Commanders yet. I don't know I
had that we were talking before we've gone

970
01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:04.400
I'm like that that first couple drives
and okay, we're keeping them in check.

971
01:00:04.480 --> 01:00:06.800
And then you know, haw throws
the interception. Kind of all that

972
01:00:06.840 --> 01:00:08.159
stuff. I'll win to I'll win
to bed. So don't you know,

973
01:00:08.199 --> 01:00:13.320
don't don't kill the commanders too much. But if anyone on here say a

974
01:00:13.400 --> 01:00:15.840
prayer for the Mariners. Here we
got we got seven games at home to

975
01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:19.880
wind out the season. Here,
we're going tonight against the Astros. I

976
01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:22.679
hate the Astros. I think Berlander
is pitching tonight as well against Thedo,

977
01:00:23.159 --> 01:00:27.440
So this this could be a rough
one. But just like, say a

978
01:00:27.519 --> 01:00:30.920
prayer, like we're trying to win
the AL last year. So anything else

979
01:00:30.960 --> 01:00:32.760
from you, Jason, No,
I think that's about it. Let's put

980
01:00:32.760 --> 01:00:37.760
this one to bed. Awesome,
thanks guys, appreciate James. You keep

981
01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:40.320
it up best in the MCFL show. Appreciate that, and we'll see you

982
01:00:40.360 --> 01:00:43.119
guys next time. Take care of