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It's Dreamy live on the my Heart
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Ball with Steve Rivera and Jay Getzalaz
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and also before we go, I'm
here at the board and I'm screwing it

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up today, and so just let
everybody know that kind of butchered this.

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We had Brian on the phone,
but nobody could hear Brian. You could

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only hear us. We had a
great conversation with him. We just,

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oh, I forgot to turn on
this Mica. I thought, no,

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I forgot to turn on Brian's and
then I left the microphones on for a

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couple of seconds after Brian, don't
call back. Great call of yours.

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But that's when you said this,
and then we said no. So we

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just butchered that. So sorry about
that. If you listen on the podcast,

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that's what happened. So there you
go. Don't know what to say.

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How did you realize this because you
sew the buttons I saw, but

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yeah, when I went to hang
up on Brian the microphone wasn't if you

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want to be an intern, just
give us a call that gives the best

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we can use, all the interns
that we can get. All right,

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here we go. This is high
on on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. It's

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paid internship, that's right, unpaid
internship. All right. So and again,

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I you know, I've been so
darn busy. I haven't had a

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lot of uh I have ever been
able to put a lot of breaking news

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together. But uh, you know, starting the NFL this week, a

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lot of interesting things happening. A
Cooper Cup, who happens to be my

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keeper and my fantasy team. I'm
shocked he's going to see a specialist about

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his hamstring. I'm sure he's got
a hamstring problem. And the thing about

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that is a hamstring can linger and
linger and linger. And if it's bad

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enough, you've got to go see
a specialist. Yeah, you know,

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I mean Cooper Cup needs his hamstring
to do what he does. I mean

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he's one of those guys again,
a Jacob Cowing guy, a Dennis Smarts,

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good guy who catches the ball and
does stuff with it. And that's

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Cooper Cup's game. And if he's
gonna he's gonna be having hams hamstring problems

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all all the all season. Then
he's not gonna be the Cooper Cup that

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that the Rams need him to be. Another another injury issue, Travis Kelsey

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guy had had injured his knee to
day. I guess in practice they've been

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checking it out. They he's doubtful
for for Thursday because they open with with

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who are they open with? I
don't know, I forget the Lions.

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Yeah, they open with the Lions, but they don't know. They don't

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think there's any structural damage. But
he might not he might not play.

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He played in every game last year. So uh, there's so there's that

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going back to all the realignment stuff
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in the Pac twelve. Uh uh. Somebody did an interview with somebody named

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Christian Capel with US. I don't
know. He's with a website. I

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guess, did an interview with the
with the Washington President. Here's a quote

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and this is what it's an interesting
quote. To change is always difficult,

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but I'll be honest. Some of
our biggest, biggest supporters said thank you

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so much. It's been generally very
positive. I understand tradition, I understand

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loyalty, but else understand the need
for change. This is the interesting part.

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We did not leave the PAC twelve
that people are grieving. We left

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the PAC twelve that was at best
on life support, and it was fairly

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toxic because there was no trust.
There was constant gossip and leaks. That

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last year was really tough on everybody. He's being honest, right, because

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it's true. But yes, I'm
sorry the president. Yes, okay,

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Well the President said it's very much
true, because that's the thing. Every

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quarter you heard something different, right. And now, when you think about

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why Oregon and Washington ended up when
everybody thought they were staying, ended up

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going, they said, wait a
minute, that Friday night, Yeah,

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this this has been bad. It's
been bad for a year, you know.

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To fix all this. The odds, the odds are stacked against us,

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and and and and and they left
anybody in the situation that these two

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teams were in, and the rest
of the team, they would have jumped

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in a heartbeat, better opportunity,
the sinking ship, right, everyone themselves,

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the whole bit, the whole deal, the whole deal. Uh,

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Sam Thomas, our friend, he's
been on her showing number of times,

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announced that she's giving up a basketball
off together, you know, going on

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to the next thing, whatever that
might be. Yeah, we should try

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to get her on the show.
A very obviously one of the most like

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to feel women's basketball players in a
long time. You know, I think

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Hove called her the best, but
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basketball player. I don't think it
was pretty good. What is huh the

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best basketball player? McDonald was pretty
good in the day. Was also prettydamn

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good too. Sam was great,
and she was great for a long really

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good for a long time. Possibly
the most well liked I would say,

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an ambassador to the program right right
in terms of you know, if if

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you're gonna make that as part of
her you know, greatness at Arizona,

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Yes, you know, because she
was, you know, I mean she

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continues to be uh uh you know
somebody that you know, one like you

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said, an ambassador but too just
somebody that uh continues to have people you

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know, just love her to death. So you know, it's it's pretty

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cool. So anyways, all right, and then uh oh, here this

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is one that a little a little
closer to home. Steve Jim Milkie,

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who was the Sunnyside track and cross
country coach, and it's some time with

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sunny Side Track at cross country was
really good. I'm talking the sixty familiar.

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And then he became the he became
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he's an ICU, so he's not
doing well. We lived next door to

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him for a while. Yeah,
as a kid. Yeah when yeah,

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when my brothers we're in high school. To mention last week, it was

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Jim Rifkin, Yeah he passed,
he passed an ambassador for tennis. Yeah

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yeah, yeah, named for the
tour he you know, they named the

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Gold the Tennis scumplex after I'm not
gonna lie. I thought Jim Milky was

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real old when I was ten,
So what does he don't know? He's

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got to be he's gotta be pretty
and he probably wasn't it Just I was

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ten years old when we lived next
door. Year old year old to be

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fifty. I know, I know, I know, it's it's it's it's

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pretty awful. So how about the
PAC twelve going thirteen? And oh and

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I know you said, you know, but nonetheless, nobody's done that,

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Okay, regardless of who they played, nobody's gone thirteen and oh, no

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conference has gone thirteen and oh,
I thought I read since the fifties,

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so it really isn't really yes,
but Jay, but if you want to

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poop all over that, go ahead. This is but I'm just telling you.

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I'm just telling you. Can I
do something and not poop poosters.

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That's smelly stuff. No, no, But because this is a one hundred

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thousand dollars horse going against fifty thousand
dollars horses, and every time they play,

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they should the one hundred thousand,
I'm going to the schedule to see

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to see who go ahead and go, Okay, here we go. We'll

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run down, we'll run down the
teams that they beat if I can get

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it and I better. The favorite
started starting with you know, you'll beat

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Florida. That might have been the
closest on the closest competition as you beat

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a crappy almost lost son Utah Stafford
beat Hawaii, right, okay, look

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good, Colorado b TCU, Okay, all right, Oregon by Portland State

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Washington be the Boise State team that
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But they're not. They're not a
powerful killed and they killed, Uh,

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CAL beat North Texas, at USC
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they were supposed to go thirty.
They were supposed well except for Tea.

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They should have I may at Stanford, I don't know. I thought I

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thought they were gonna be he's not
very good. Who it's not very good,

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So probably should have gone twelve and
twelve anyways, uh, you know,

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and USC beat was they stayed in
week zero, so that was the

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first one. Nonetheless, the point
is nobody's done that, even when they

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played rappy guys. I get it. But perspective is also important. Yeah,

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but you know everybody's falling all over
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then that's when you know the uh, the sky is falling enough, the

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scar is following. Earth has reclaimed
the PAC twelve. It is what is?

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It depends where you play, he
depends out good you play exactly.

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So the Cardinals depth chart is out
and it says Joshua Dobbs or Clayton Tune

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is the starting quarterback and you've never
heard of any never who what? So

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first he's like I heard somebody said, and I don't know again, maybe

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passing that information Tyler Murray for the
year, I saw that same same story.

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Yeah, yeah, well and money
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of payments, I think. But
no, yeah, he might be out

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for the for there. If he's
out for the whole year. When I

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read that, I immediately went to
draft Kings to see what the over under

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is. It's still three and a
half. What's an over under with Colorado?

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It was three and a half?
No, here all looking up.

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It had to have changed, right, Yeah, you think I was looking

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at the halftime of the Saturday game. Let me see here clearly the big

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year Colorado is now over. The
over under is five, yeah, said

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I wouldn't touch that up. Yeah, no, one't touch that. Yeah,

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I was listener. Bill is texting
me right now that this was my

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next item anyways, So he's just
making sure because Dodgers, Yes, Julio

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your he is there there their best
picture right. Arrested on a domestic battery

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charge of felony domestic second charge.
It's the second time he got He got

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arrested in twenty nineteen, had had
to go to a year long uh counseling

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thing, that had said he was
going to be a better guy, all

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these things and good stuff, you
know, and and it looks in the

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end this doesn't really matter when you're
talking about situation. It's a serious like

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he's in a contract year. He
was probably going to sign one hundred million

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dollar contract next year, and now
he made you know, who knows what's

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gonna happen, right, we don't
know the details of this or anything like

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that. But again, he has
been a rent. He was arrested,

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posted bail. He's out of jail, but he's it's always nice spended and

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who knows when it we'll see you. It's always nice for Bill to kind

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of check you. He's he always
he couldn't wait to do that. He

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couldn't. He just could not wait. He could not wait to do that.

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But find Bill, go ahead.
I took it. You know,

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Look, I love Julio. I
had forgotten about his previous thing. I

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don't have I don't have patience for
those guys, I really don't. But

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I had completely forgotten about it.
So you know, now this has happened,

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and you know it obviously will be
on you know, on the front

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of my mind. I know that
he doesn't care what I think. But

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nonetheless, you know it's it's too
bad that uh too bad for his his

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wife or his girlfriend, I don't
know, you know who is, what

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his partner is, and that this
is happening. And now probably a very

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promising baseball career matter just gone into
the cracker because he's a this is his

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as a second second time having having
this happened, I've had one more law

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enforcement thing. Patriots cornerback Jack Jones, who had who had been arrested,

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uh back in June and was facing
ten gun charges, had all the charges,

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had the charges dropped in return for
one year of probation. Police said

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he brought two loaded guns, two
loaded unregistered handguns to the airport in Boston.

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How dumb is that? But anyways, Okay, so he's been put

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on probation, and I say,
I think it's one of those probations where

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you know, you just gotta drop
the charget if you stay clean. And

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I was gonna go into the AP
preseason poll, okay, AP preseason pole

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football play. The first one is
that you go ahead, we can talk

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about well, I was gonna say, there's how successful can a soccer team,

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be the team that won the World
Cup spaining right. They fired,

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they got rid of the president and
the coach because of a kiss that went

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south, obviously, and then all
the problems and they won the thing.

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They want to imagine had they not
won the thing? Who knows? Craziness?

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Who knows? I mean, I
you don't know what what what players

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and what athletes and stuff like that
are going through. What they're thinking.

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They get on the field and they
forget about all the crap going on behind

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them. I don't know. I
don't know. Yah, were talking about

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that, right, It's got to
be kind of clean. You know,

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things got in the locker room,
the coaching staff and all that stuff,

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and then all this, all this
turbulence is going on, and yet they

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still go out and win the women
the Women's World Cool. You just want

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That's it. That's it. We'll
see what happens. We'll talk more.

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Steve Rovera and Jagen Summits. This
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fifty. They welcome back to what
the ball here on Fox Sports fourteen took

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me? Or Steve Rivera, He's
jackings Off. Now in the bowl we

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had met more than of goings hecats
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how are you great? Stephen Jay? Thanks having me back. You

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know you're gonna pull a Dion Sanders
and tell us I told you so about

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the PAC twelve. Yeah, I
told you so. You didn't want to

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believe me. Now I told you
that it's gonna be the greatest league in

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the entire country, has a great
future ahead of it. All those things

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I said, all those things.
Wait a minute, Wait a minute,

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it has no future in front of
it. That part's got to be correct,

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because that's that's the shame of everything. But first impressions of you know,

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I don't know if the league of
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don't I don't know what impression you
can have, right, yeah, I

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mean I think it's the thing that
stands out is that everyone kind of handled

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business. And sometimes that's difficult in
college football sometimes, as we saw,

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you know, last night, with
Duke and Clemson and Clemson not looking like

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the team that everyone has known and
Duke so you know, we're gonna be

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part of this thing as well,
and so sometimes you know, you get

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those games where it just doesn't go
the way you thought it would. But

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for the most part, you know, Pactrol panel business and did what it

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was supposed to do. You talk
about Arizona or being able to get back

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and avenge that loss to NAU and
really looking maybe not in top top form,

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but at least looking like they should, you know, against the team

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like NAU, And then you go
across the board and most of the teams

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look that way, and you have
Washington State hanging fifty points on Colorado State.

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You have you know, cal Scorn
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you look across the league and there's
a lot of scoring, which is not

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a surprise. But I think the
overarching thing for me was that everyone that

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was supposed to, you know,
do the things they did, it kind

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of came to reality. And so
that's I think a good sign for the

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Pac twelve and we'll see what We'll
see what it means once conference play starts,

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because we know how this league is
and how much everyone kind of each

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one another and cannibalize one another is
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we'll see if that happens again and
if there's one team that gets to the

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very top. But I felt my
reservations about the very very top teams and

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their abilities to make it to the
College Football Playoff and really truly compete for

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national title. But we'll kind of
have to see how that all plays out

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of these coming weeks. So the
enigma team for me, and it's been

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a while, is the UCLA Bruins. Do you have your guy McDonald cover

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that team? What do you what
do you make of them? Because they

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could be good some days and not
good some others. Sometimes they kind of

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don't know how to get out of
their own way. You watch that game

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and you go, there should be
a very clear decision about who their starting

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quarterback is. It's a Rushan who
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top recruits ever sign with them,
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and he plays well, and you
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don't say, hey, he's the
starter. So the fact that they're drawing

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this out and they're making it more
than it has to be kind of feels

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like what they're about and they kind
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just instead of just doing what they
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making the decisions they should make,
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way at times that at least to
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I mean, they probably should have
never went into that game trying to play

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three different quarterbacks for the most part. You know, you mentioned Tracy and

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him covering UCLA for US, I
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it felt like Dante was Dante Moore
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along and should have been the guy. You know from game one that it

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felt like he separated himself in camp
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We're going to go with a three
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And so I think there's just moments
where they kind of can't get out

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of their own way. I think
that plays into it. And then they

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also have the new defensive coordinator and
trying to work on some new things,

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and you know, a coach who
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to adjust I think is probably part
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But yeah, an interesting team for
sure. They could be one of

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those teams that if you look at
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I can see them winning nine or
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see them be in the middle of
the pack team. And so they are

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an enigma for sure. And I
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reason a lot of ways, because
they kind of just don't do the simple

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things at times. You know,
going back to overall, you know what

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the PAC twelve uh did uh this
last weekend? The one thing that I

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that I the PAC twelve loses two
or three of these games early in the

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season every year. You know,
they lose to a Portland State. They

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lose to uh, you know,
one of those Cal State somebody teams to

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lose to, you know, you
know, a team that they shouldn't listen

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and they didn't lose any of those
games this time. I don't know how

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much how much that means, but
to me, you know, where every

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first weekend of the PAC twelve of
the season, I would be shaking my

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head because the PAC twelve looks stupid, losing a couple of games that they

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shouldn't lost. They didn't lose those
games this time. And that's what I

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was kind of alluding to her.
I think, you know, the overarching

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theme for me was just that everyone
kind of handled their business. And so

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it is really rare. You look
down the list of the scores and you

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go, you're kind of waiting to
see, all right, where was that

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team? Where was that one?
And everyone's talking about Organ State, you

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know, leading up to the season, and they play San Jose State and

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who kind of was in it a
little bit with USC for a bit and

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you go, Okay, maybe that's
the game that maybe you overhyped the Organ

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State too much and everyone thought too
highly of them, and then even they

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handled business and so yeah. I
mean, if you look across the board,

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everyone did what they're supposed to do. It is rare. It does

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feel different. Now the task and
the challenge is going to be to do

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it again because the pack falls is
whether they like it or not, it's

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gonna need all the help they can
get to be one of those teams to

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be one of those leagues that considered, you know, a national power for

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this season, obviously dissolving after this
year, but you still want to get

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those teams with a college football player, if you still want to be in

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that conversation, and the pack calls
like it has a lot of worthy teams.

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Again, my my concern with it
when you look from the outside perspective

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is do they have one of those
teams that's truly truly elite? Again,

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Washington's in that conversation. USC is
absolutely in that conversation, or they might

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be in that conversation, but when
you look at USC Washington, there's still

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some kind of moments where you go, I don't know that they're one of

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the top teams in the country.
And we'll see how that plays out of

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the next couple of weeks. So
I don't want to beat the horse.

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But we have nine minutes, so
let's be do. What do you make

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of Dion? And have you seen
I think you're still a young kid,

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and we didn't talk about this with
Anthony, but have you seen a coach

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like that before? You know,
uh we no one believes this. Blah

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blah blah. Oh it really doesn't
matter to me. No, I mean,

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it's it's it's really interesting. It's
been very interesting to watch. I

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think there was talking to a lot
of people around the league. You don't

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really have to talk about people are
around the league. You can just go

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on social media. And there's a
lot of people who were, to his

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credit, roody for his downfall.
I mean, there's a lot of people

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who don't like the way that he
went about his business. There's been coaches

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openly criticizing him, which you never
see, you know those coaches, that's

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a pretty pipe fraternity. And there's
been a lot of coaches who have been

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openly criticizing how he's gone about turning
over that roster, how he's approaching things,

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how he's built his team, all
those things. And I'm sure we're

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you know, not happy to see
him win a game because you kind of

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00:27:18.000 --> 00:27:21.440
know what's next is gonna be what
kind of has transpired, which is him

407
00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:23.200
basically saying I told you so,
and I'm the greatest list and I'm the

408
00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:27.920
greatest that you know. I think
it's it's not unexpected. I mean,

409
00:27:27.920 --> 00:27:30.559
he's kind of been in the same
way since he got the job, and

410
00:27:30.720 --> 00:27:34.279
is uh, you know, set
all those things along the way and as

411
00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:37.200
reminding people of you know, who
he is and what he's about, and

412
00:27:37.640 --> 00:27:41.440
so it hasn't been a surprise,
but it is definitely different and it's something

413
00:27:41.480 --> 00:27:45.559
that they need to keep winning otherwise
they are gonna there's gonna be a wave

414
00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:49.000
of criticism about what they are and
who they are, and I think it's

415
00:27:49.039 --> 00:27:52.160
gonna be an interesting way to see
how it plays out these next couple weeks

416
00:27:52.200 --> 00:27:56.359
because it's you know, uh,
Nebraska didn't look very good that the way

417
00:27:56.400 --> 00:27:59.920
you know, Colorado played the Flash
against TCU, that feels like a weird

418
00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:03.079
for Colorado. They play Colorado State
the next week, and then you know,

419
00:28:03.119 --> 00:28:04.799
they go into the Gauntlet, But
at this point, it doesn't feel

420
00:28:04.799 --> 00:28:08.160
out like it's out of the realm
of possibility that they could, you know,

421
00:28:08.240 --> 00:28:11.680
go into that going to Pactrol play
undefeated, and so I was not

422
00:28:11.759 --> 00:28:15.079
thinking now I was going to be
the case. I had plenty of reservations

423
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:18.680
about what the roster looked like.
I didn't think it was was as talented

424
00:28:18.680 --> 00:28:22.279
as it seemed to look over the
weekend. But I still think there's a

425
00:28:22.279 --> 00:28:25.799
lot of questions to be answered about
that team. I don't think you can

426
00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:27.599
judge them based off one week.
Yes, are they better than what we

427
00:28:27.640 --> 00:28:32.000
thought? Probably so, But there's
still a lot to be determined about that

428
00:28:32.039 --> 00:28:34.559
group and in that team, and
so we'll see how it all plays out.

429
00:28:34.599 --> 00:28:37.559
But yeah, it's been very interesting
to see a coach would be that

430
00:28:38.119 --> 00:28:41.559
boisterous and see other coaches for me
from the other side, be so critical.

431
00:28:41.599 --> 00:28:45.359
And it'll be interesting to see how
that dynamic plays out when some of

432
00:28:45.400 --> 00:28:48.519
those teams meet up. So let
me ask both of you guys this question.

433
00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:49.720
I just saw the schedule. I
didn't know when they were playing Colorado,

434
00:28:51.039 --> 00:28:53.599
So so you have you have a
chance to see one of these games.

435
00:28:53.799 --> 00:28:59.200
There was one Colorado and Boulder.
Nice Crisp cor you going to Duke

436
00:28:59.240 --> 00:29:03.119
to what's the best? Okay,
Oh, you're gonna go if you can

437
00:29:03.160 --> 00:29:06.119
go. If you can do one
or the other and you get and you

438
00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:08.119
can do it. I'm going to
do and if the plane to get guard

439
00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:11.039
seven hundred. But that's what I'm
saying. Let's just say whatever the cost

440
00:29:11.200 --> 00:29:15.240
is, what you can do one
or the other. I think you go

441
00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:17.359
to do. Yeah, No,
that's what I'm going to try to do.

442
00:29:17.359 --> 00:29:22.039
I didn't realize but the same weekend, same weekend. Ah, that's

443
00:29:22.039 --> 00:29:25.720
why you asked that. That's not
have to figure out what I want to

444
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:26.799
do. What are you doing?
Man? Yeah, what would you do?

445
00:29:29.039 --> 00:29:33.519
I think there's no question you're gonna
do. I think there's absolutely Like,

446
00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:34.960
if you have the opportunity to go
to one or the other, I

447
00:29:34.960 --> 00:29:37.759
think you have to go to Duke. I mean that's just so much more

448
00:29:37.759 --> 00:29:41.960
significant, just in so many ways. Again outside of this one season and

449
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:45.799
seeing what happens with Deon, what, what does it truly matter what you

450
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:48.680
think of Colorado as an Arizona fan. I mean, it's it's a one

451
00:29:48.680 --> 00:29:52.039
time deal that's over. You kind
of wash it away, obviously. I

452
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:55.799
know you're going to the Big twelve
as well, but I don't I'm not

453
00:29:55.839 --> 00:29:57.920
one for thinking that Dean is going
to be there very very long. So

454
00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:03.440
maybe that's my judgment of it,
but I don't know. You're not on

455
00:30:03.480 --> 00:30:06.960
the sideline scene what he's doing.
You could very much just catch up on

456
00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:10.079
what happened during, you know,
watching the TV replay later on. To

457
00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:14.640
me that the Duke experiences very feels
very much close to a one once in

458
00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:17.920
a lifetime type of experience, and
you know, both teams should be pretty

459
00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:19.119
good. And to me, it
seems like a very simple decision that you

460
00:30:19.160 --> 00:30:22.279
go with you go to the basketball
side and going to the trip to Duke.

461
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:25.200
Dean's going to be a very mad
at you because you're you're disrespecting it.

462
00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:29.759
I can you're disrespectful. So let
me ask you add my name to

463
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:33.160
the list, a name to the
list. Do you you follow recruiting very

464
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:37.640
very highly? Obviously the Hunter kid, he was the number one kid out

465
00:30:37.680 --> 00:30:40.519
of the high school coming out.
He ends up with him. How good

466
00:30:40.640 --> 00:30:44.960
was he? He was exactly what
everyone saw on Saturday, And I'm very

467
00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:48.759
shocked to see that more people didn't
understand what type of player he is.

468
00:30:48.799 --> 00:30:51.119
I mean, he is one of
the top players in the country and he

469
00:30:51.200 --> 00:30:53.880
has been and he was last year
and he wasn't a recruit. It was

470
00:30:55.039 --> 00:30:59.279
very shocking when Jackson State was able
to get him to commit there because he

471
00:30:59.319 --> 00:31:02.359
was obviously at the Florida State at
one point, he had every offer in

472
00:31:02.400 --> 00:31:04.319
the country. He was thought of
as being, you know what he is,

473
00:31:04.359 --> 00:31:07.599
and the kind of a generational talent
in a lot of ways, it

474
00:31:07.599 --> 00:31:11.000
feels like and it's being built.
At at least that was everything he was,

475
00:31:11.079 --> 00:31:15.400
and I think people just maybe ignored
it, and especially last year,

476
00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:18.880
it's just difficult to see it because
you're not watching Jackson State games. They're

477
00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:22.559
not on primetime TV as much as
your favorite team, and probably gets overshadowed

478
00:31:22.559 --> 00:31:26.119
a bit. He wasn't not doing
the things that he did on Saturday at

479
00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:29.559
Jackson State. He was still a
very very good player. It's been his

480
00:31:29.720 --> 00:31:32.559
level of player has been raised,
and I think the opportunity to know that

481
00:31:32.599 --> 00:31:36.200
he's on a national stage probably upped
his game a little bit, especially on

482
00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:38.960
Saturday. But nothing is shocking based
off what you saw from him as a

483
00:31:40.039 --> 00:31:42.039
high school prospect. There was a
reason he was thought of so highly and

484
00:31:42.079 --> 00:31:45.200
why he was ranked as high as
he was because he is a pure talent

485
00:31:45.319 --> 00:31:49.200
and it was so rare to see
a two way player be that successful,

486
00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:52.960
you know, at that level,
and understand that he could legitimately do both

487
00:31:53.000 --> 00:31:56.240
things at a very high level.
That was just really rare, and so

488
00:31:57.960 --> 00:32:01.400
I think he in I think he
was only helped by making a move to

489
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:05.480
a school that's going to be playing
games that you know, noon on a

490
00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:08.279
Saturday, and I think everyone just
got to see it a little more.

491
00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:14.440
But I'm actually a little bit surprised
that more people are are as shocked as

492
00:32:14.440 --> 00:32:16.039
they are about his level of playing
what type of players, because he was

493
00:32:16.119 --> 00:32:19.680
very very good last year and again
as a high school recruit, he was

494
00:32:19.759 --> 00:32:22.519
highly thought of and considered one of
the top prospects. So I've been surprised

495
00:32:22.519 --> 00:32:25.279
by the reaction to it, but
I'm not surprised about what he shows at

496
00:32:25.279 --> 00:32:28.559
all. And I will say,
you know, we had Brian Hall,

497
00:32:28.640 --> 00:32:31.640
who covers who covers Colorado, you
know, for the Boulder for the Boulder

498
00:32:31.680 --> 00:32:37.440
Paper. He too said because we
asked about Door Sanders, they said,

499
00:32:37.480 --> 00:32:40.799
is he a legitimate PAC twelve quarterback? And he said, yes he is.

500
00:32:42.680 --> 00:32:50.119
Uh so you know it, uh
I you know, he clearly was

501
00:32:50.240 --> 00:32:57.160
right because it's he certainly showed that
this last weekend. Yes, I mean

502
00:32:57.359 --> 00:32:59.720
there was no question about him as
well. I mean the issue we have

503
00:32:59.799 --> 00:33:01.839
someone like that and you know where
they're gonna go. They're gonna follow their

504
00:33:01.839 --> 00:33:06.319
father. If his father was a
coach, they're gonna follow him. It's

505
00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:07.960
the recruitment doesn't blow up as much
as you think it would because all the

506
00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:12.279
coaches are saying, I'm not going
to waste my time recruiting Shdor Sanders because

507
00:33:12.279 --> 00:33:14.559
I know where he's gonna go.
So that plays into it too. And

508
00:33:14.559 --> 00:33:15.279
then you go, well, well
the song is offen. It's why didn't

509
00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:16.920
everybody off him. Well, they
knew where he was doing. They're not

510
00:33:16.960 --> 00:33:20.359
gonna waste their time. So I
think that's fews things a little bit.

511
00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:22.559
But him as well, when you
watched it he did in high school,

512
00:33:22.559 --> 00:33:24.160
and you watched what he did,
you know as a prospect, he said,

513
00:33:24.160 --> 00:33:27.079
that is a very high level player. He's going to be able to

514
00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:30.559
help somebody at the next level in
a very big way. I think what

515
00:33:30.599 --> 00:33:34.759
he showed Saturday was even up more
than what he's shown previously. But again,

516
00:33:34.759 --> 00:33:36.480
if you look at the staff,
then you look at you watch the

517
00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:38.000
games. He watched the film of
what he did at Jackson the State.

518
00:33:38.279 --> 00:33:43.440
It wasn't that that much of a
difference from what he showed against PCU.

519
00:33:43.519 --> 00:33:45.960
I do think again, level a
level play was raised in that game.

520
00:33:46.079 --> 00:33:51.680
I think he really wanted to show
show and pronounce himself and make sure that

521
00:33:51.680 --> 00:33:54.079
people knew, like, hey,
I'm that type of player, and uh,

522
00:33:54.200 --> 00:33:57.400
you know, kind of announced his
own arrival, so to speak.

523
00:33:57.440 --> 00:34:00.640
But for both those players, I
think what they showed Saturday is not far

524
00:34:00.720 --> 00:34:04.640
off from what they showed last year
and definitely not what they showed as a

525
00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:07.079
high school prospect. So after Week
one, you know, everybody gets kiddy

526
00:34:07.239 --> 00:34:12.159
or whatever and over react to things. Who's the best team in the Pac

527
00:34:12.199 --> 00:34:17.199
twelve today? You could change,
But today I still think it's Washington.

528
00:34:17.320 --> 00:34:21.360
I think if I'm gonna, you
know, attach myself to one team and

529
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:23.320
say who has the best chance to
play in the college football Playoff, I

530
00:34:23.360 --> 00:34:27.599
think it's Washington. I'm still not
I know that USC has been dominant at

531
00:34:27.599 --> 00:34:31.280
times, showed an improved defense over
the weekend. There's still something about what

532
00:34:31.360 --> 00:34:35.679
Kaylan Dbora was able to do last
year and really just rebuild a team very

533
00:34:35.760 --> 00:34:37.639
quickly, and not only just with
players and not bringing in talent, but

534
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:40.719
just as a coach and making the
right play calls and right decisions, and

535
00:34:40.760 --> 00:34:45.239
so I really think that Washington is
the class of the Pac twelve right now.

536
00:34:45.480 --> 00:34:50.280
I think, especially when you're talking
about longevity and being able to really

537
00:34:50.320 --> 00:34:52.800
compete for a college football playoff,
I'd probably go as Washington. I understand

538
00:34:52.800 --> 00:34:57.159
the USC argument. I think they're
very talented. I have plenty of questions

539
00:34:57.159 --> 00:34:59.320
about their defense and what they're able
to do on that side of the ball,

540
00:34:59.320 --> 00:35:01.719
and how things change once they get
into league play and uh, you

541
00:35:01.760 --> 00:35:05.760
know, the scores aren't going to
be as kind of outlandish. So I

542
00:35:05.840 --> 00:35:08.079
selve reservations about what they are as
a team. Defensively. I think offensively

543
00:35:08.280 --> 00:35:10.800
they're gonna be very very difficult to
stop, and it'll be able to all

544
00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:15.000
the defensives across the league to come
up with ways to try and limit kill

545
00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:17.320
the billions and what they do with
all those weapons there. But I just

546
00:35:17.360 --> 00:35:20.920
I really like kiland Bore as a
coach. I think, you know,

547
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:23.840
what he does and what he's done
at Washington is very impressive, and I

548
00:35:23.880 --> 00:35:25.880
think they have the talent to get
it done. It's just a matter of

549
00:35:25.920 --> 00:35:30.119
if you don't have those slip ups
and there's there's so many teams across the

550
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:31.679
league that can you know, catch
you if you're not you know, on

551
00:35:31.719 --> 00:35:35.360
top form. And Arizona has been
one of those teams at times, you

552
00:35:35.400 --> 00:35:38.559
know, able to come up with
upset wins and and you know beat teams

553
00:35:38.559 --> 00:35:42.400
when maybe they're not expecting it.
And so I'm gonna be really interested to

554
00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:45.559
see kind of how that upper echelon, you know, USC Organ and Washington,

555
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:47.599
how they're able to do. Maybe
Organ see it, Like I said,

556
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:52.519
throw them in there right now.
I would say Washington is the best

557
00:35:52.519 --> 00:35:53.599
team and it's going to be the
best team in fact felve as I see

558
00:35:53.639 --> 00:35:57.480
it right now. Well, thanks
for Matt for coming on for the last

559
00:35:57.480 --> 00:36:06.280
time on this show. Washington too. I love you, Matt. The

560
00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:10.679
one thing he didn't do is pointed, No, I didn't. I'm trying

561
00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:15.159
to sit back a little bit let
this season unfold a little So, okay,

562
00:36:15.159 --> 00:36:16.239
Matt, we'll talk to you soon, I promise. Thanks. Bud

563
00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:22.719
Sounds. I heard him. I
heard him, and I'm just gonna sit

564
00:36:22.760 --> 00:36:25.920
back here and let let it,
let let it, let that thing percolate

565
00:36:25.960 --> 00:36:31.400
a little bitfully. Is only September
fifth, all right? Man, I'm

566
00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:34.760
glad it was. You know what. It was a fun weekend. There

567
00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:37.440
was. It was some really cool
things happening. You know, a lot

568
00:36:37.440 --> 00:36:38.679
of fun games. Yes, and
I'd beat you. Gave us a lot,

569
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:40.559
and you'll be sure taking my butt. I got it, I got

570
00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:44.079
it. I got one. I
thought you got two? Would you miss

571
00:36:44.119 --> 00:36:46.239
I got it? I missed them
all except uh, I thought you get

572
00:36:46.239 --> 00:36:50.239
Washington and that was it. Oh
wow, okay, I thought you thought

573
00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:52.760
you had too. No, get
Washington. That was all all right,

574
00:36:53.760 --> 00:36:57.559
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Streaming live on the iHeart Radio WAP. This is I on the Ball

639
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with Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome

640
00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:39.960
back to Winning about here on Fox
Switch fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera.

641
00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:44.360
He's Jaken Zoso. Good about thirteen
fourteen minutes. Do you guys want to

642
00:41:44.400 --> 00:41:46.920
call please do five two o four
one six seventy four forty would like to

643
00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:52.079
hear about your thoughts on the UVA
Colorado whatever Pac twelve. Whatever you want

644
00:41:52.119 --> 00:41:57.719
to talk about now is your dants
we have. You're not gonna be here

645
00:41:57.760 --> 00:42:01.280
Friday. I will not be here
Friday day or Monday. So I'm debating

646
00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:06.199
whether I'm gonna be here Friday or
Monday. Taking a little uh, a

647
00:42:06.239 --> 00:42:12.639
little soare uh it's my wife?
Should I give her up? She married

648
00:42:12.639 --> 00:42:15.360
you? She's birthday? Oh cool, So you're going away and so we're

649
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:19.599
yeah, we're gonna go. Okay, we're gonna go do the Zony thing.

650
00:42:19.599 --> 00:42:22.159
We're gonna go to San Diego.
It no, no, my,

651
00:42:22.400 --> 00:42:27.800
we're the whole family. It's like
her favorite thing on in the world to

652
00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:30.519
do. It's cool or San Diego, hang out on the beach. We're

653
00:42:30.519 --> 00:42:36.599
gunn ourselves. They beach right there
in Mission Beach and we're gonna drive up

654
00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:39.440
on Friday, spend the weekend.
Her birthday is actually on Saturday, and

655
00:42:39.519 --> 00:42:45.519
we're gonna and then I'll be Okay, let's take this call. Hi,

656
00:42:45.599 --> 00:42:47.400
you're on the air and I on
the ball. Yeah, this is Nico.

657
00:42:47.480 --> 00:42:52.440
Man, what's up, Nico?
Hey man? Just want to talk

658
00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:55.679
about the game. Which are you? Yeah? Man, I was it?

659
00:42:57.199 --> 00:43:00.840
Did you stay the whole time?
And what'd you think? Hey man?

660
00:43:00.960 --> 00:43:04.719
First off, they got a fire. Whoever bought those fridges they put

661
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:10.719
the beer in? Man? Every
beer I've got was hot Hill, every

662
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:15.960
beer. How many beers did you
have? Like sticks? Oh? You

663
00:43:15.039 --> 00:43:22.719
must have been loopy happy? Okay? And the hot dogs they're horrible.

664
00:43:23.280 --> 00:43:25.960
And the nachos are bad too,
They're not okay. I got a bone

665
00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:30.679
to pick on the nachos. Okay, you give you a ton of chips,

666
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:35.159
not enough cheese, and you have
to beg for extra hollo. Don't

667
00:43:35.159 --> 00:43:37.760
they have two types of nachos,
like one on the one you're talking about

668
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:40.480
and then another bigger dish of sudden
Yeah, well you can go get like

669
00:43:40.519 --> 00:43:45.559
the nacho Grand Day, right,
which are I think are done by all

670
00:43:45.639 --> 00:43:49.960
charto. But I'm a basic nachos
guy. I like the nachos with the

671
00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:54.199
with the canned cheese and a mountain
of hollopanios and they you know, they

672
00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:58.960
they're still doing them in enough cheese, still doing them in with the chips

673
00:43:59.039 --> 00:44:04.559
and the little doesn't work. Man, I asked for extra cheese. They

674
00:44:04.599 --> 00:44:09.360
tell me it's a dollar extra.
What the Yeah, so you went out?

675
00:44:09.360 --> 00:44:14.199
Are you going to be going to
more games? I got season tickets,

676
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:17.079
Malla, we got new seats pretty
much so. And you're a critic,

677
00:44:17.119 --> 00:44:21.119
you're kind of a critic. What
would you give them out of ten?

678
00:44:21.360 --> 00:44:24.239
The way they played overall? Now
not halves on a scale of one

679
00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:30.079
to ten, I'm talking about the
concession standard, the ten, the actual

680
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:35.679
game, the actual game, I'm
giving the concession at three and I'll give

681
00:44:36.679 --> 00:44:40.400
the Cats are six. Yeah.
The defense, the defense, let you

682
00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:47.559
do thank you had too many plays
where it's like impact twelve. You're gonna

683
00:44:47.599 --> 00:44:52.039
get screwed over if you do that
crap. Yeah, well, the defense,

684
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:55.199
they were pretty they were pretty impressive
compared to h They played way better

685
00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:59.800
in the second half. I thought
I thought they let any of you have

686
00:44:59.840 --> 00:45:02.199
the all too much in the first
half. That was my deal. And

687
00:45:02.280 --> 00:45:06.440
also the offense, I thought they
put up like fifty six at least.

688
00:45:07.320 --> 00:45:10.239
Yeah, they just didn't have enough
opportunities. They gave up those two turnovers

689
00:45:10.239 --> 00:45:14.000
and that kind of soft them too. Hey, just being a young dude

690
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:15.800
and Nico, what do you think
about the d on situation? And keep

691
00:45:15.840 --> 00:45:21.360
your your your language clean? Peace? Hey man. I like Dan Man.

692
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:23.360
Yeah, I think I figured he
was gonna win. Yeah. No,

693
00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:28.519
you, you and a few young
younger generations, I think. And

694
00:45:28.800 --> 00:45:30.920
that's good. That's good because he
appeals to them. Yeah, I mean

695
00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:37.000
you like the brashness and the I
got we got receipts and all that kind

696
00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:40.360
of stuff. I like him because
he's a no man. And I appreciate

697
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:46.840
you taking ls last week. Yeah, I guess I have to take that.

698
00:45:47.519 --> 00:45:52.239
Yeah, okay, Nico, thanks
Man. Are you back in town

699
00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:57.400
for a while. Yeah, I'll
be back man job, Oh of course

700
00:45:57.400 --> 00:46:00.880
you did. We gotta get to
Jay's tailgate in two weeks, you do,

701
00:46:01.079 --> 00:46:04.960
Hey, Man, I tailgate on
the way I to get in from

702
00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:08.280
park Man. Your your tailgates A
long walk for me. Man, It'll

703
00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:13.159
be a cold beer for you,
none of that warm stuff. You got

704
00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:15.440
a night shift? Of course we
do? Are you kidding me? I

705
00:46:15.960 --> 00:46:20.519
who love it? Even has ice
in it. And we had we had

706
00:46:20.559 --> 00:46:24.559
bud we had bud light and Pacifico
this last week. Well, then I

707
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:28.519
might have to come back. Yeah, it's worth the worth the welcome to

708
00:46:28.559 --> 00:46:30.840
come by Nico. Alright, Nico
and Steve came by. I didn't drink

709
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:36.239
though, Alright, Nico, thanks
so much for calling. Hey, that's

710
00:46:36.280 --> 00:46:40.880
another thing, though, why don't
they sell because probably they probably are asking

711
00:46:42.000 --> 00:46:46.480
too much for probably trying to charge
egs too much to do it. And

712
00:46:46.559 --> 00:46:51.280
then there's nothing like an egg.
There's a little bit of pocket in it.

713
00:46:51.320 --> 00:46:54.199
Man, I go, I go, I go with Captain Morgan.

714
00:46:54.280 --> 00:46:59.639
He's my friend. When when it
comes to the captain, the captain was

715
00:46:59.639 --> 00:47:04.800
at our mailgate this U this last
week. All right, man, alight,

716
00:47:05.440 --> 00:47:08.639
all right man, yeah, I
love Nio. Nico's kind of the

717
00:47:08.719 --> 00:47:14.000
anti Gabe in a cool way.
You know, Hey, what's up?

718
00:47:14.159 --> 00:47:21.519
And Gabe's like, damn scummies.
Oh so did you know that? Did

719
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:24.199
you? When you're talking about Edwarder
and and Dion they have a history,

720
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:28.079
right, but did you had you
seen the story? Because Warder was on

721
00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:31.400
yours that's where you got the information. Okay, that's why, because it's

722
00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:35.199
exactly what you said. Yeah,
yeah, yeah, no, I that

723
00:47:35.320 --> 00:47:37.440
that and he that's what he said, you know, Dan Patrick said,

724
00:47:37.440 --> 00:47:39.039
well, he said, what did
you write about him? And he said,

725
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:43.039
I didn't, except that I don't
write, he said, he said,

726
00:47:43.079 --> 00:47:45.800
enough, he's going back to this
thing that I tweeted back in March.

727
00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:47.559
Then what the hell? Well,
they do keep re seats. But

728
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:51.519
let me ask you. So we've
been here a long time and we covered

729
00:47:51.559 --> 00:47:53.039
a lot of coaches. I kind
of didn't, but we know a lot

730
00:47:53.039 --> 00:47:57.000
of coaches. I didn't ask Anthony
because he's covered a lot of coaches too.

731
00:47:57.440 --> 00:48:00.599
Any coach like that here. Luke
was a little like that. He

732
00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:05.239
gets a little grumpy at times,
maybe Greg, maybe a couple other people

733
00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:07.079
where he kind of said, you
know, I said, it's just,

734
00:48:07.079 --> 00:48:08.960
you know, don't pay attention to
it. It's kind of like they're right

735
00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:15.480
with you writing right and and again, what bothers me? And I know

736
00:48:15.519 --> 00:48:20.920
he doesn't give one crap, but
just what bothers me is the hypocrisy is

737
00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:23.480
that he he talked, He talked, you know, he walked off the

738
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:27.559
field talking about we got received and
he called it edward or out in the

739
00:48:27.559 --> 00:48:30.920
press conference and then today or yesterday
in his in his you know, weekly

740
00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:35.280
press conference, he says he doesn't. You know, I don't care what

741
00:48:35.360 --> 00:48:37.280
you guys, right, I'm paying
attention to that stuff. You know,

742
00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:39.519
I'm dion. It's one or the
other, right, right, Okay,

743
00:48:39.559 --> 00:48:43.440
what is it? You know that? That's what That's what gets me,

744
00:48:43.480 --> 00:48:45.039
when it gets me, is these
guys make a ton of money, like

745
00:48:45.159 --> 00:48:50.800
a ton of money, Yeah,
and they're worried about these things that Look,

746
00:48:51.039 --> 00:48:53.719
do I care what people say about
me? Yeah? You know,

747
00:48:53.840 --> 00:48:59.000
you know, but you know what, for the most part, it's like,

748
00:48:59.039 --> 00:49:00.480
okay, if that's what you thinking
me, fine, I don't.

749
00:49:00.519 --> 00:49:04.199
I don't know you. I don't
need you, you know, and so

750
00:49:04.280 --> 00:49:07.199
I don't talk about you. You
know. That's kind of like what his

751
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:08.880
son said under his press commerce.
You know, you guys just don't know

752
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:13.119
my dad. And then he's he's
a winner. He's been a winner everywhere

753
00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:15.920
I've gone. And he is who
he is, you know, and he

754
00:49:15.039 --> 00:49:17.440
is and he's he's a heck of
a player. You can kind of know

755
00:49:17.760 --> 00:49:22.559
coaching matters, Jay and I it's
gonna translate. He's got the guys inspired,

756
00:49:22.840 --> 00:49:25.440
right, and you give him credit
for that because he has been a

757
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:30.760
winner everywhere he's gone. He has
been no doubt you know, all the

758
00:49:30.800 --> 00:49:34.719
way through and so you know,
people who doubted him, you know,

759
00:49:34.800 --> 00:49:38.400
doubted him at their own risk.
Here here's my situation with this. I

760
00:49:38.440 --> 00:49:43.840
think they flashed a graphic on the
on the on the screen there. I

761
00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:46.440
think he had eighty five new players
or something like that. Right, it's

762
00:49:46.480 --> 00:49:50.760
a big number, big number.
The guy who Texas State, guy who

763
00:49:50.960 --> 00:49:54.719
who beat who they beat? Somebody
upset the upside Baylor they had like fifty

764
00:49:54.800 --> 00:49:58.599
six or sixty, well, the
second best, the second most in the

765
00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:01.239
in the well. Actually, I
was gonna I'm glad you brought that because

766
00:50:01.360 --> 00:50:06.559
on the way over here, I
was thinking about Nicole Arbach for for the

767
00:50:07.840 --> 00:50:10.039
Athletic. There's a story about this. It was it was about the clemsing

768
00:50:10.119 --> 00:50:17.599
thing where dabble Sweeney has refused to
tap into the into into the yeah,

769
00:50:17.679 --> 00:50:22.119
into the transferport you talk about Stanford, you know, they've gotten bad since

770
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:25.519
the trans report come and then and
she had a couple of other examples of

771
00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:30.880
guys that aren't going into the transfer
portal and say it's a losing strategy.

772
00:50:31.280 --> 00:50:37.360
It's a losing strategy because guys like
you know, the Texas State guy,

773
00:50:37.559 --> 00:50:44.719
Guys like the Florida state coach Mike
Norvell. You know, Dion even Jed

774
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:47.679
Fish are going into the transfer portal
and getting guys that make them better.

775
00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:53.480
And by refusing to do that,
you're putting yourself out and a self imposed

776
00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:57.840
event. Totally agree with that.
Totally agree with that. So when you

777
00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:01.400
buy cars, Jay, do you
buy used or new? And they're fine?

778
00:51:01.480 --> 00:51:05.480
Right, they do well? Kind
of man, I'm careful about what

779
00:51:05.519 --> 00:51:08.159
I get. My point is,
you get some pretty good players from somebody

780
00:51:08.159 --> 00:51:10.639
else, right, and they play, You can coach them up, or

781
00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:14.159
they want to be there, try
hard, all that stuff. That's what

782
00:51:14.199 --> 00:51:16.360
they're doing. That's what they're doing. That's all they're doing. And they're

783
00:51:16.360 --> 00:51:21.159
and they're getting guy you know.
Again, the point being that, and

784
00:51:21.159 --> 00:51:23.480
and this is the point that that
that Nicole Arbuck made in her in her

785
00:51:23.519 --> 00:51:28.519
column was that you know, you
can go get a guy who's played a

786
00:51:28.519 --> 00:51:32.239
couple of years, has some experience
you know, can come in give versus

787
00:51:32.679 --> 00:51:36.360
if you plug in a high school
guy, it takes him a while,

788
00:51:36.360 --> 00:51:38.280
Sure, get up to speed.
Sure one of the other things. What

789
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:40.320
are reason I brought it up?
He is eighty five. Let's say that

790
00:51:40.400 --> 00:51:45.239
number. The Texas State guy has
up sixty five or whatever. A lot

791
00:51:45.239 --> 00:51:47.719
of big numbers. Uh. I
think one of the things that we talked

792
00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:51.760
about how he grew up people wrong
is he did it, and he made

793
00:51:51.800 --> 00:51:53.280
it. He was real public with
it, was public, and that's the

794
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:57.039
thing that a lot of people are
saying, right. But the thing is

795
00:51:57.079 --> 00:52:00.320
there's a lot of coaches who weren't
public with it, but did it,

796
00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:02.960
did the same thing, did the
same thing. Look, I'm sure Jed

797
00:52:04.039 --> 00:52:07.199
Fish did some of that. Rich
Wad did that. Right. You come

798
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:12.119
here and you got you gotta get
you know, you gotta gets that fit

799
00:52:12.199 --> 00:52:16.800
with what you do exactly. There's
nothing wrong with Matt depending on how you

800
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:20.440
do approach the approach, right.
I mean, if you just kick him

801
00:52:20.480 --> 00:52:23.039
off the door and they you don't
let him keep a scholarship or and then

802
00:52:23.079 --> 00:52:25.800
then you know, then that's distasteful. But if you say, look,

803
00:52:27.039 --> 00:52:30.320
you don't fit in our program,
I'm telling you that. So if you

804
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:32.760
want to go look for another opportunity, you can. But if you decide

805
00:52:32.800 --> 00:52:37.320
not to decide to stay, here's
your scholarship. We all that good luck

806
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:40.679
to you, because it's gonna be
tough to even see the because I'm bringing

807
00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:44.480
my own guys. No, but
but he'll say, look, you know

808
00:52:44.559 --> 00:52:45.559
you're not gonna be on the team
anymore. Let me ask you this,

809
00:52:45.639 --> 00:52:49.320
But you can you can still go
to school here. We only have any

810
00:52:49.320 --> 00:52:52.079
seconds. But you say, you
you've gone to a few companies blah blah

811
00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:54.639
blah and the new guy and you're
there for a while. A new guy

812
00:52:54.679 --> 00:52:58.920
comes in as your boss. You
know what he wants to do, bring

813
00:52:58.920 --> 00:53:02.320
in. Does that happen to me? It happens, Absolutely happened. That's

814
00:53:02.360 --> 00:53:06.239
exactly what happened to me. And
you're saying, what the hell? I

815
00:53:06.280 --> 00:53:09.440
do a pretty good job here,
but this guy wants Yeah, no,

816
00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:13.840
that's Steve. That that absolutely happened
to me. And you guy came in,

817
00:53:14.360 --> 00:53:16.320
he had his he had his guys, and I wasn't part of the

818
00:53:16.360 --> 00:53:20.800
plan. And that's where it goes. Yeah, it's called life. And

819
00:53:20.920 --> 00:53:22.599
I didn't like it, but that's
the way it goes. I didn't like

820
00:53:22.679 --> 00:53:25.960
it, but I understood it,
and that's and that's the way it goes.

821
00:53:27.000 --> 00:53:30.920
So you know, and that and
that's at every level. Now people

822
00:53:31.159 --> 00:53:35.440
feel like, well, you know, he made a commitment to your college.

823
00:53:35.440 --> 00:53:37.559
You should you know, take care
of him. Okay, you take

824
00:53:37.599 --> 00:53:39.400
care of my saying Okay, you
can stay at the University of Arizona or

825
00:53:39.559 --> 00:53:45.320
University of Colorado or wherever, but
and you can keep your scholarship. But

826
00:53:45.480 --> 00:53:49.480
I you don't fit in my program. Sorry, And guess what the guy's

827
00:53:49.480 --> 00:53:54.880
gonna do. He's gonna can go
play. Right. That's the way,

828
00:53:55.039 --> 00:53:58.719
and that's the way it has to
work. And then and the transfer portal

829
00:53:58.800 --> 00:54:05.199
has really exacerbated that. It's made
it's made it more prevalent. These coaches

830
00:54:05.239 --> 00:54:07.400
are really having to clear out because
they say, Okay, there's about three

831
00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:12.239
guys out there that I want to
get. I gotta go clear three spots

832
00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:15.119
from my eighty five. We gotta
go. All right, let's get out

833
00:54:15.119 --> 00:54:16.000
of here. We'll be back tomorrow.