WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.319 That got us our game itself is tonight. But first of all, the 2 00:00:03.520 --> 00:00:07.839 Supreme Court ruled about ten days two weeks ago important matters about individual liberty, 3 00:00:08.240 --> 00:00:13.640 and Senator jd Vance as caution, college is to comply with the affirmative action 4 00:00:13.759 --> 00:00:16.879 ruling. John, and you and I now is that same? Senator Vans 5 00:00:16.920 --> 00:00:20.920 and Senator Vans, welcome again to the Bill Cunningham Show, and tell us 6 00:00:20.920 --> 00:00:23.920 why you thought it was necessary to send the letter. What's in the letter 7 00:00:24.160 --> 00:00:27.719 and what is the concern that you have? Well, yeah, well so, 8 00:00:27.879 --> 00:00:30.519 so, first of all, the Supreme Court rules rightfully, in my 9 00:00:30.559 --> 00:00:33.799 opinion, that you can't discriminate against people based on the color of the skin 10 00:00:33.840 --> 00:00:37.960 of this country and college admissions that was the subject of the case. Now, 11 00:00:38.000 --> 00:00:41.479 that's obviously the right decision to make. But as soon as it comes 12 00:00:41.479 --> 00:00:46.359 out, you have college administrations from across the country, especially at our most 13 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:50.640 elite colleges, both inside and outside the state of Ohio, basically saying we're 14 00:00:50.679 --> 00:00:55.320 going to violate this ruling. We're gonna find ways to subvert the intention of 15 00:00:55.320 --> 00:00:59.280 the ruling, to find ways to discriminate against people on the basis of skin 16 00:00:59.359 --> 00:01:04.280 color. Basically, they continue to award spots in our elite colleges based on 17 00:01:04.359 --> 00:01:07.840 whether you belong to the right racial group, and we fought to ourselves. 18 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:11.959 Look, if these colleges are telegraphing that they're going to violate the law, 19 00:01:11.359 --> 00:01:15.599 we should warn them that if they do, we're going to come after them. 20 00:01:15.599 --> 00:01:18.239 We're going to investigate them, We're going to identify the ways in which 21 00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:21.719 they've subverted the law. And look, we're going to identify ways in which 22 00:01:21.719 --> 00:01:25.239 potentially they can face some consequences for it. And I think that's important, 23 00:01:25.239 --> 00:01:27.519 Willie, because when you have the Supreme Court, even if you disagree with 24 00:01:27.560 --> 00:01:30.920 the decision, even if you disagree with JD. Vans or Willing Cunningham, 25 00:01:32.000 --> 00:01:36.480 and you think that you should be able to award favored racial groups with spots 26 00:01:36.480 --> 00:01:40.040 and college admissions, the Supreme Court says you can't. And if you're going 27 00:01:40.079 --> 00:01:44.840 to be a system and a country of laws, you can't have administrators saying 28 00:01:45.200 --> 00:01:48.159 the Supreme Court is issued opinion, we're going to ignore it. That's not 29 00:01:48.200 --> 00:01:51.560 how the system works, And Senator, it comes from the top. Normally, 30 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:56.760 we have a system of government checks and balances in which the president executes 31 00:01:56.799 --> 00:02:00.040 the law. The Congress makes the law, the Supreme Court interprets the law. 32 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:04.760 And so when the June twenty ninth decision came out, we had the 33 00:02:04.799 --> 00:02:08.199 specter of President Joe Biden almost immediately going to the microphone saying, you know 34 00:02:08.240 --> 00:02:13.159 what, I disagree with it. I'm going to ignore it. I'm gonna 35 00:02:13.159 --> 00:02:15.840 work around it. We're gonna try plan A, plan B, Plan C. 36 00:02:16.479 --> 00:02:22.599 He gave the message to colleges and universities to not comply with the law. 37 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:25.639 It got so bad. Irwin Schemerinsky who's the dean of the University of 38 00:02:25.719 --> 00:02:30.599 California Berkeley Law School, and Schemerinsky has been there like twenty five years, 39 00:02:31.000 --> 00:02:37.000 and he was caught on tape by a student that afternoon saying, what we're 40 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:39.879 gonna do now is putting nothing in writing. I'll send you the clip off 41 00:02:40.120 --> 00:02:44.680 your staff if you haven't seen it. No emails, no Texas. And 42 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:49.759 what we're gonna do is continue to have racial discrimination, but we're not going 43 00:02:49.800 --> 00:02:53.520 to put it in writing. And then if I'm under oath and a deposition, 44 00:02:53.719 --> 00:02:57.840 if I swear to God to tell the truth, I'm gonna lie about 45 00:02:57.840 --> 00:03:01.439 what we're doing. And that's the law. S Dean hiring faculty and matting 46 00:03:01.520 --> 00:03:07.080 students. How do you reach into that circumstance and make him applicable to the 47 00:03:07.159 --> 00:03:12.759 Supreme Court. When he's the chair of the Constitutional Law Committee in Berkeley, 48 00:03:12.960 --> 00:03:15.479 he's the dean of the law school, he's the decision maker, and he's 49 00:03:15.520 --> 00:03:19.759 saying, guess what, I'm not going to pay attention to the law. 50 00:03:20.319 --> 00:03:23.439 How do you react to that? It's just crazy, Willie. Think about 51 00:03:23.439 --> 00:03:27.159 this guy, one of the most important people in the legal profession, a 52 00:03:27.199 --> 00:03:30.240 guy who brings in new law students, who trains them, who prepares them 53 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:36.560 for the legal profession, effectively telling them that he's going to lie in order 54 00:03:36.599 --> 00:03:39.039 to accomplish a policy preference of his. By the way, Willie, that's 55 00:03:39.080 --> 00:03:43.000 illegal, right, That's the definition of perjury. If you go into a 56 00:03:43.039 --> 00:03:46.479 deposition you swear an oath to tell the truth and you don't, that's a 57 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:51.400 criminal violation. And so we just have to expose these people to consequences. 58 00:03:51.400 --> 00:03:53.319 And that that was really the point of the letter is, Look, if 59 00:03:53.360 --> 00:03:57.840 you're going to violate the law, preserve the documents, because we're going to 60 00:03:57.919 --> 00:04:00.840 come after you. These guys have got to know their consequences for it. 61 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:02.879 This is sort of an age old principle. It's true when you're dealing with 62 00:04:02.919 --> 00:04:05.639 a three year old kid. It's apparently true if you're dealing with law school 63 00:04:05.919 --> 00:04:12.000 administrators. People know that if there are no consequences for violating the rules, 64 00:04:12.120 --> 00:04:15.120 they'll keep on violating those rules. At least some people will. And that's 65 00:04:15.120 --> 00:04:18.639 why we have to be willing to do consequences. I think that something's happening 66 00:04:18.680 --> 00:04:23.000 Willie in the conservative movement. It's a good thing for our country. But 67 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:25.439 we're saying we're not just going to talk about this stuff. We're not just 68 00:04:25.480 --> 00:04:29.279 going to wind about this stuff. We're actually going to be willing to cause 69 00:04:29.399 --> 00:04:33.000 people who break the law to suffer consequences for it. That's something the left 70 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:38.040 has been willing to do for thirty forty fifty years. Even when people don't 71 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:41.759 break the rules, they're willing to send the justice system after them. We 72 00:04:41.839 --> 00:04:44.639 have to be willing to send the justice system after people when they break the 73 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:47.399 law. If you don't have that, you don't have equal protection of the 74 00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:50.199 law in this country, and we need to bring it back. Well, 75 00:04:51.199 --> 00:04:56.519 it's reminding me and what happened with Brown versus Board of Education in nineteen fifty 76 00:04:56.519 --> 00:05:00.439 four, when the Supreme's rule that's separate but equal plus versus Ferguson is not 77 00:05:00.560 --> 00:05:04.439 the law of the land anymore. We're gonna have black kids getting the same 78 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:10.800 kind of quality public education as white kids. It took ten to twenty years. 79 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:14.240 And when that came out, you had the Democrats, the same political 80 00:05:14.319 --> 00:05:16.560 party, the Democrats in the South, said you know what, we're going 81 00:05:16.600 --> 00:05:20.079 to ignore the law. We're not gonna admit black kids the Little Rock High 82 00:05:20.079 --> 00:05:25.480 School. And it took ten to twenty years for the Democrats to understand that 83 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:29.680 the law applies to them. I guess I'm shocked that I'm watching this same 84 00:05:29.720 --> 00:05:34.399 political party in nineteen fifty four that stood in the doorway in Alabama and Arkansas 85 00:05:34.439 --> 00:05:40.639 and Mississippi and will not admit black kids. That same political party in twenty 86 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:46.839 twenty three is saying we're not gonna we're gonna keep practice racism. We're gonna 87 00:05:46.920 --> 00:05:50.759 have a qualified admission standard for black kids as opposed to white kids. And 88 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:55.480 so I would ask you, Senator Advance, what's changed this nineteen fifty four 89 00:05:55.519 --> 00:05:59.279 with the Democrat Party. Well, really, of course, they've just changed 90 00:05:59.319 --> 00:06:01.399 the skin color. Are the people they're discriminating against. That's really it, 91 00:06:01.480 --> 00:06:04.879 Willie is is if you look at the history here, there's always, of 92 00:06:04.920 --> 00:06:10.720 course been racial discrimination in almost every society across time in place. What's unique, 93 00:06:10.920 --> 00:06:14.319 of course about our country is that we set up a system of laws 94 00:06:14.319 --> 00:06:17.519 and consequences to try to prevent this stuff from happening. That's an admirable thing. 95 00:06:17.560 --> 00:06:20.639 But of course whenever it happens, somebody tries to subvert it. And 96 00:06:20.680 --> 00:06:24.959 that's really what we're going after here, Willie is. Look, I don't 97 00:06:25.000 --> 00:06:27.920 care if you're white, or you're black, or you're something in between. 98 00:06:28.399 --> 00:06:32.120 I want if you're a deserving applicant at a college, if you're a deserving 99 00:06:32.120 --> 00:06:35.600 applicant at a medical school, if you're a deserving applicant to fly a plane 100 00:06:35.759 --> 00:06:39.959 that of course all of us that our children fly on every single day, 101 00:06:40.240 --> 00:06:43.399 all across our country. We just want the best person for the job. 102 00:06:43.439 --> 00:06:46.319 We want the person who deserves it, who worked hard for it, who 103 00:06:46.319 --> 00:06:48.120 has the merit and the work ethic. We want that person to get the 104 00:06:48.199 --> 00:06:51.800 job. But there is a group of people who want a racial soil system 105 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:55.959 in this country, that want to divvy up who gets what, not according 106 00:06:55.959 --> 00:06:59.519 to who earned it, but according to skin color. It's always been an 107 00:06:59.600 --> 00:07:01.720 impulse that exists in the human heart. I think that it's wrong. I 108 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:05.160 think we have to continue to fight against it. And this is all we're 109 00:07:05.160 --> 00:07:08.879 doing right now. If you could step back a little bit, William, 110 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:12.439 think about you know what it took to get us to this point where the 111 00:07:12.480 --> 00:07:17.720 Supreme Court is saying you cannot have racial discrimination or reverse racial discrimination. It 112 00:07:17.800 --> 00:07:20.399 took a lot of work. It took a lot of arguments, It took 113 00:07:20.439 --> 00:07:25.199 a lot of Senate confirmations, a lot of Senate elections to elect the right 114 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:29.519 people who would vote up people like Clarence Thomas and Justice sam Alito. This 115 00:07:29.600 --> 00:07:33.120 is really what it has taken. It's a great actually day for the country 116 00:07:33.360 --> 00:07:38.240 when you have the Supreme Court saying our founding principles say you've got to treat 117 00:07:38.279 --> 00:07:41.680 everybody equally. It's shocking to me that people are offended by that. But 118 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:46.800 of course some people are. Imagine if a JD vance at a little Middletown, 119 00:07:46.839 --> 00:07:50.639 Ohio and Butler County, Ohio with the background that you have, and 120 00:07:50.680 --> 00:07:55.040 for many listening locally and around the nation that don't know your background, it 121 00:07:55.160 --> 00:07:58.959 was may I say awful that you were raised by your grandmother and you had 122 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:03.000 a terrible family, drug addiction problem, heroin, etc. You want in 123 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:05.560 the military service, you got a minute to Yale. If there is a 124 00:08:05.720 --> 00:08:11.360 racial spoil system in place some twenty five years ago, when you went to 125 00:08:11.480 --> 00:08:16.199 Yale and you were the wrong skin color jd Vance, maybe never would have 126 00:08:16.240 --> 00:08:20.079 happened. No, that's exactly right, Willie. I'm very mindful of that 127 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:26.000 that I was the beneficiary of a country that allowed me to achieve some incredible 128 00:08:26.040 --> 00:08:28.639 things because it gave me a chance, it gave me some mentors, it 129 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:33.519 gave me some good opportunities, and things worked out for me through some combination 130 00:08:33.559 --> 00:08:37.759 of hard work and good luck. Things worked out for me. I think 131 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:41.639 these people are trying to take it away from the next generation of American children. 132 00:08:41.879 --> 00:08:43.919 They're trying to teach these kids to see themselves as victims, and they're 133 00:08:43.919 --> 00:08:48.240 trying to say that if you want to achieve anything in this country, you 134 00:08:48.360 --> 00:08:50.960 better say the right things. You better pretend to be the member of a 135 00:08:52.080 --> 00:08:54.399 victim group, because that's how we're going to divvy up things in this country, 136 00:08:54.399 --> 00:08:58.000 not based on merit and hard work, but based on victimology, and 137 00:08:58.000 --> 00:09:01.200 I think that's going to destroy the psychology of a generation of young people. 138 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:05.399 It's going to destroy one of the critical things that makes this country a great 139 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:09.279 place to live. Now here's the other crazy thing about this, Willie, 140 00:09:09.360 --> 00:09:13.919 is it's destroying the talent that will power the country for the next generation. 141 00:09:15.279 --> 00:09:18.600 And we want high quality surgeons, high quality airline pilots. We want brilliant 142 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:24.360 scientists inventing therapies that solve the next generation of great medical challenges. If you 143 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:30.279 teach people that they get into our good schools and our good professions not by 144 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:33.360 being bright and working hard, but by trying to claim the mantle of a 145 00:09:33.440 --> 00:09:37.000 victim, you're going to destroy so much of what makes this country great. 146 00:09:37.279 --> 00:09:43.039 Speaking of a victim, I live in a corporate environment, and you leave 147 00:09:43.120 --> 00:09:46.519 you're kind of an entrepreneur. You came into politics horizontally, not vertically. 148 00:09:48.240 --> 00:09:52.120 Every year in a corporate environment, we have to go through two hours of 149 00:09:52.200 --> 00:10:00.039 sexual harassment training. And this is true, and every conceivable corporate structure you 150 00:10:00.120 --> 00:10:03.600 got to be. There's no water cooler talk anymore about what did you do 151 00:10:03.679 --> 00:10:05.519 last night? Who are you dating? God forbid, if you would ask 152 00:10:05.559 --> 00:10:09.639 somebody out in the workplace. It gives generally to a woman power. On 153 00:10:09.639 --> 00:10:15.919 one hand, in the corporate environment, we're all adults and we're being taught 154 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:18.960 and told do not do this, do not do that, to not talk 155 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:22.200 about sex, to not talk about dating, to not talk about anything of 156 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:24.519 that character. On the other side of the equation, you have three small 157 00:10:24.600 --> 00:10:31.399 children. I often hear of grade school. There's elementary school, junior high 158 00:10:31.639 --> 00:10:35.200 in which there's a sexualized environment in which nine year old little boys and nine 159 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:39.080 year old little girls are asked, what is your gender? You are gendered 160 00:10:39.080 --> 00:10:43.399 fluid right now? Forty percent? A Brown university considered themselves to me, 161 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:48.360 shall we say LGBTQ plus plus forty percent, which I don't believe at all. 162 00:10:48.559 --> 00:10:52.600 So on one side, Senator Advance, we have a corporate structure that 163 00:10:52.679 --> 00:10:58.399 says you can't get anywhere close to sexual harassment or sexual talk in the workplace. 164 00:10:58.559 --> 00:11:01.919 On the other side, and public and private schools, we have an 165 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:07.960 indoctrination of children and sexual matters that are inappropriate for a grade schooler. How 166 00:11:09.000 --> 00:11:11.639 can we have a corporate structure telling adults and what they can't do in their 167 00:11:11.679 --> 00:11:16.039 workplace? Then it's a free fire zone and an elementary school. How is 168 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:20.120 that possible? You know, it's It's weird, isn't it, Willie? 169 00:11:20.120 --> 00:11:22.240 That we're treating children like adults and adults like children. And I think that's 170 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:26.120 that's the symptom of a very diseased mind, and unfortunately a lot of our 171 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:31.960 elites suffer from, I think some very very bad ideas, and our society 172 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:35.279 is dealing with the consequences of it. Can you talk about sexual harassment in 173 00:11:35.279 --> 00:11:39.120 the workplace? And I think this is one of these issues where, of 174 00:11:39.159 --> 00:11:43.799 course you don't want the boss to come to one of his underlings and basically 175 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:46.000 say you have to do something for me or to me as a condition of 176 00:11:46.039 --> 00:11:52.399 employment. That's illegal and rightfully so. But you can't take that principle and 177 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:54.759 then and then tell too consenting adults that they can't ask each other out on 178 00:11:54.799 --> 00:11:58.879 a date. And that's unfortunately. I think what's happened in a lot of 179 00:11:58.919 --> 00:12:03.840 our workplaces in the country is that we've we've taken sexual harassment, which is 180 00:12:03.879 --> 00:12:09.480 a bad thing, and we've put in a situation where we treat consenting adults 181 00:12:09.480 --> 00:12:11.200 like children. It's funny you asked about this, really because it was a 182 00:12:11.279 --> 00:12:16.399 law school professor of mine actually wrote this really interesting article, she's a liberal, 183 00:12:16.159 --> 00:12:20.840 called the Sanitized Workplace, and her basic argument was that we've we've so 184 00:12:20.960 --> 00:12:26.240 sanitized the workplace that we've made it miserable for a lot of consenting adults. 185 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:28.399 Like you said, they're not talking to each other around the water coolere terrified 186 00:12:28.639 --> 00:12:31.159 that they're going to offend their coat workers. If you're terrified you're going to 187 00:12:31.200 --> 00:12:35.279 offend somebody, you can't build a relationship with that person. So yeah, 188 00:12:35.279 --> 00:12:37.080 we've got to get back to treating adults like adults and children like children, 189 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:41.759 not the other way around. Lastly, about a minute remaining. East Palestine 190 00:12:41.879 --> 00:12:46.120 is one of the causes that you've taken up. And I see that our 191 00:12:46.200 --> 00:12:48.320 governor, or, the good Governor, Mike Dwine, is asking the President 192 00:12:50.080 --> 00:12:54.320 to declare the disaster area. Here we're are the middle of July. What's 193 00:12:54.320 --> 00:12:58.399 the latest on East Palestine. Well, you know, the cleanup at East 194 00:12:58.440 --> 00:13:01.000 Palestine is proceeding a pace. That's a good thing. Actually, that's always 195 00:13:01.000 --> 00:13:03.960 been to me the first and most important thing. We've got to finish the 196 00:13:05.000 --> 00:13:07.600 cleanup in East Palacetine, get the toxic soil out of the ground there, 197 00:13:07.639 --> 00:13:11.600 dispose of it properly before people can go back to living their lives. We're 198 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:15.399 really now, i think, transitioning to the point where we're focused on the 199 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:18.960 economic devastation. A lot of livelihoods destroyed, property values destroyed. We've got 200 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:22.200 to get some people some money to make up for that, and we've gotten 201 00:13:22.240 --> 00:13:24.879 some of that, but we've got to keep on working it and getting people 202 00:13:24.919 --> 00:13:28.759 more of the resources that they deserve because of this disaster. And then, 203 00:13:28.799 --> 00:13:31.960 Willie, the thing we're going to be worried about for the next ten years 204 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:35.519 is long term health consequences. We're focused in our office and making sure that 205 00:13:35.559 --> 00:13:39.440 people are getting the testing that they want and that they need, so that 206 00:13:39.440 --> 00:13:41.759 if they do have God forbids and health consequences for this, either a year 207 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:45.720 from now or ten years from now, they know about it and they can 208 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:46.960 get they can get what they need to get some help. All right, 209 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:50.720 Senator to J. D. Evans once again this Tuesday afternoon, thank you 210 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:54.039 for coming on the Bill Cunningham Show. Good luck on all your ventures. 211 00:13:54.039 --> 00:13:58.200 Thank you, senatorially, thank you here. Let's continue with more to me. 212 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:07.480 It is beyond ridiculous that workplace has so infected with sexual harassment and concerns. 213 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:09.840 And I'm not in favor of anyone having to do anything against their will 214 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:15.039 or wishes. But about one third of our relationships begin in the workplace. 215 00:14:15.279 --> 00:14:18.200 That's where many of us been a lot of our time. So, as 216 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:22.639 the Senator said, we treated doves like children and children like adults. And 217 00:14:22.759 --> 00:14:28.679 so much of public education is not anymore about education. It's about indoctrination and 218 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:33.279 marching Marxists come out of schools ready to change the world to a socialistic heaven 219 00:14:33.360 --> 00:14:39.120 that doesn't exist. And so a forewarnedness, forearmed. 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