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Wee wee wee wee wee wee wee. Hello, pretty funny and welcome back

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to Desks and Dorks in your favorite
designing creation podcast that has always in shape

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by you. We bring the best
indie tabletop games. I'm Kyle Lott,

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I am the dork. I am
joined today thankfully after I was like nine

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years in person Riley Parks. Maybe
Ben, don't be fooled, folks.

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That was not an actual siren.
That was just me. It was a

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shot. It was trying to figure
out what was happening. Um, I

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think we're talking about a topic.
We are actually so as those of you

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who have watched the show. No, actually, we have a big thank

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you. Thank you again to everybody
that made fear Within a huge towering success.

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Um, we have finished up with
edits. We're actually the process of

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doing layout now, which is super
exciting. Thank you to all the retailers.

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Thank you to all the packers.
Thank you everybody to play tested it.

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Thank you to every person that I
accosted in Sam's Club to talked about

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my board game too. I'm sure
you were very confused and did you do

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that? No? It was a
costco Okay, a much more board game

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friendly clientele. But in a case, thanks again to everybody, and it

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was huge. Also, if you're
a fan of the show, you might

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know our friend Graham against Graham has
been on the show many times. Um,

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oh my good lord. And so
like every so often Graham, we're

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in a group chat with him and
he will he called them his his his

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que pod drops, which is like, I'm having a really hard time keeping

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you straight face, but every songs
and he'll be like, you guys need

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ideas. I'm an idea man.
That's like the classic before Graham says something

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very like just interesting. And so
he pitched us a bunch of different podcast

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ideas and I love one of them. It is called breaking and entertaining.

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So I'm gonna give him his flowers, both for the idea and for the

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pun based title. See we're already
next out of grand makes upun before I

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do. It's beautiful. But anyway, breaking entertaining what crimes make for exciting

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game design, and that is something
that I am thrilled about as a concept.

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So we're gonna be talking about all
kinds of stuff I get to talk

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about. Um, we are talking
specific situations. I would hope at least

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I am. I have a specific
person, even a mine. I have

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some board games that I'd like to
talk about, and I have some RPG

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concepts because we're also in the process
of working on an RPG that may or

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may not involve criminals. Yeah,
so this looks awesome for me. I'm

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excited as an RPG designer and a
game designer in general because I think this

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is something that works really well.
Um yeah, I think so are you

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starting it? You want me to
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first off, one of the reasons
I love talking about this in general is

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I think if you are running an
RPG session, and this is true for

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everyone, whether you're an aspiring dungeon
master or whether you want to run other

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you know, more esoteric and you
know, more niche board games, if

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you can connect to your audience,
if you have some through line that goes

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from the fantastical world to the real
world, it's going to make your game

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immediately more engaging, especially when Riley
almost breaks our work turner in the middle

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of a podcast. That's the best
part in any case. So I like

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putting crimes into my RPG sessions in
general. Now, a quick word of

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caution. If you are going to
use crimes, please be cognizant of who

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you're playing with their safety tools.
There are certain people who have a tolerance

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for like that grim Dark. You
guys know what those kind of crimes are.

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I'm not going to go into those, but always be cognizant when you

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throw something in there that you're being
aware of the players that you're with and

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the safety tools that they might need
to be comfortable and stay comfortable when you're

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in one of those sessions, like
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of the stuff is cool, and
sometimes people are like, you know what

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I'm in for as grim and gritty
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nah, man, this is a
fantasy game. I'm here to escape the

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horrors of the real world. So
I always like to keep my crimes light.

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That's a sentence I never thought I'd
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ones to do, if I'm going
to do anything, is grand larceny.

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Grand larceny in a board game,
specifically some sort of heist. I want

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it to be as much like if
you've ever how do I put this?

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If you're looking for a template,
watch the TV show Leverage and just extrapolate

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on that. But I love giving
the PCs some sort of big mcguffin that

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they have to steal for whatever reason, whether that is a rare painting or

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a magical artifact or something along those
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is it lets the players kind of
flex their creativity. I love being like,

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Okay, your first couple sessions are
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out what's there, what isn't there, who is who isn't around, what

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the guard patterns are, what the
security systems are in place. Like,

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it's so cool to just give your
players a general like overview in a map

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and then watch them kind of systematically
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I think it gives you tons of
opportunities for great role playing, tons

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of opportunities for great strategic thinking,
tons of opportunities for people who like to

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draw maps and just doodle and plan, And it just gives you tons of

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opportunities to be a badass, Like
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Like I can break into this place. Watch me use spells or abilities or

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critical thinking to get into a location
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me to get. I love it
if you're looking for creative ideas for it.

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One of my all time favorites comes
from the Dungeon Master's Guide, Too,

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which is no longer in print.
You can at least the three five

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three five edition where it literally details
as a potential adventure seed because like,

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yeah, you can do a painting, Yeah you can do an artifact.

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Yes, you can just do straight
up gold. It talks about stealing saffron,

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like the spice because they're like,
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more than diamond. Yeah, this
town, right, which is great,

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so you can have it be something
really unique. The group of players that

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I've am at with absolutely like loved
it because they're like it was hyped up.

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The local thieves were talking about it. They were like, Yo,

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this is gonna be like the craziest
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we're gonna break in. It's this
insane thing. And then they rip over

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open the tarp and it's literally spices, and they're like, wait a second,

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and their whole plan of smuggling it
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had just assumed it was like bars
of metal, and so they had to

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like adapt on fly how they were
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way. You can make it work, make the person that is guarding it

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or hoarding it have some sort of
special thing, like, yes, you

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could steal this big gemstone. However, if the big gemstone is like powering

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another care an innocent person's heart,
because it's like a magic gemstone, that

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changes things a little bit. I
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big Higson. Speaking of band larceny, that's what I want. I want

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grand larceny. I'm gonna just actually
listed a game that I'm sure you've played.

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It's a one page role playing games. Guns. No, it's a

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it's Honey, It's Hoist. It's
Honeycown twenty seventeen. You're gonna undertake the

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greatest height the world has ever seen. Two things. One, you have

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a complex plan that requires precise time. Two, you're you're a bear.

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I have not played Honey Heist,
Dad shocks me. I have not played

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Honey Heist. Well you there you
go. I need to play Honey.

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For some reason. You were talking
about serious RPG stuff and Honey Heist game

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to mind, like, Honeyhist is
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in a whole different route cut.
Okay, do it. I'm talking about

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a specific crime. Oh like a
like a like a like an actually named

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crime. Okay. Yeah. So
first and foremost, I would like this

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game to be called The Gang of
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you're My thought is it could be
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actually a little more two player,
almost mister Jack style. Oh okay,

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um, because I love that game. That's that's that's a game my wife

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and I have played quite a lot. Um. And one of you plays

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as the police. Of course,
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Goals. Okay, good old Rufus
Cantrell. So it's fall nineteen o two.

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As a police officer, you've you
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not of boost gambling or other illicit
activities. No, no, no,

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I guess I think I know who
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corp roter, right, yep.
It's a gang of guals men who robbed

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graves and sold their bodies to medical
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of you, one of you plays
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researching for evidence, and you're taking
statements trying to locate who these people are,

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where they based, where they acquiring
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selling to next. As the King
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you were trying to continue business us
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schools without getting caught. Oh my
god. Okay, that's great. That's

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really good. That's really good.
You could make that a really good RPG,

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or you can make it a really
good pusher push. I wanted to

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be a kind of push your luck
style, but honestly, mister Jack,

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that type of thing a little different. You gotta do some tweaking with that,

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but gosh, you could have some
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of Mister Jack too, a couple
other shout outs for crime based board games

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in Scotland yard phenomenal. It's much
more not toned down. It's a much

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more toned down version of mister Jack. It's a lot more family friendly.

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No mister Jack, pocket no no, no, no, no um.

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And I still love Court of Miracles, which is if you've watched the games

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that Intrigue, a series all about
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France, like like like basically like
whatever, whatever, Hunchback of Notre Dame

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whatever that time period is. Um
so is it? Oh God, now,

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dude, King of Goals will be
sick, Gang of Goals, Gang

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of Cool. Do you think,
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Goals, but it'd be called because
I just think it sounds. How many

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times can we sound say ghouls in
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often? But before we do that, I guess a game I haven't played,

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but one that I have upstairs I
want to play at some point.

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Seventy five Nam Street you play is
essentially Oh it's Street streetmes Street Nomes.

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Yeah, that's crime. I don't
know if it's good or not by Seaman

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so maybe not. I mean most
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cool miny or not, I believe, Yeah, like when it was still

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branded. Even a lot of their
like mass Market does because I'm assuming you

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got that at always because I got
it always like for seven yeah, like

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forever ago. Um, but even
a lot of their stuff that like they

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went up, like wholesaling and fire
sailing and shipping off there still pretty good

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good Like there's some good stuff there. Um. Okay, while we're on

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the topic of that, though,
because the Nam's thing and also made me

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think of like one of my all
time favorite board games, just The Godfather.

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I honestly think gang wars, like
fantasy gang wars, are a really

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interesting way to spice up your game
design. There's one thing that people know

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that I love. It's asymmetry.
And I think what's interesting about any type

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of faction based conflict is it lets
you hone in on the differences and similarities

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between groups, and that can be
really potent ground for if you are doing

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an RPG for storytelling, Why are
these characters? Like is my gang of

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corpse Thieves much different than my gang
of rum Runners which is much different than

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my gang that sells like hard drugs, right? And like, like what

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are we fighting over? What do
these characters value? And I think that's

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really interesting. It gives you an
opportunity for a lot of pitched combat,

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which is kind of cool. Gives
you an opportunity for some subterfuge. You

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can infiltrate different groups and play their
groups against each other, maybe starts your

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own different type of group. Huge
shout out of course to Blaze in the

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Dark, which kind of delves into
that. But I think gang wars are

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kind of cool. And that's an
out of sentence I ever thought i'd say.

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But I think like a fantasy gang
war is kind of a cool place.

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Who start, if you are looking
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that way, if you're looking for
more of a conflict based one that has

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some really good interesting like human quote
unquote, because I don't always have to

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be human storytelling it angles. I
think that's a great call. Okay,

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that's that's another pick for me.
I love love love. Whenever you get

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like real different factions than you start
brawling, I think that's pretty cool.

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Ooh, I'm not just saying this
because we looked up the night Shift board

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game, but like honestly like entertainment
for a long long time, like running

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a red light district, like or
a campaign in a red light district.

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And this was so there is a
company. M gonna go ahead and throw

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it content warning a ten plus not
for what we're talking about. But if

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you've google this, Yes, there's
a company called Exotic Cancer yep um that's

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play on Exotic Dancer. Yes,
yes, because they have a game coming

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out on Kickstarter called night Shift,
And you can assume what type of dancing

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you do, and that as far
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I don't want to get lose anything
by talking about it more. But we're

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intrigued to see how that plays out. Well. One of the things that

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I think is really interesting is there's
a period in American history where you have

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neighborhoods and sections of major cities where
that type of work is allowed, right,

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And historically those were really beneficial things
for a city because then it could

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be regulated, monetized. The people
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which was great as opposed to now
necessarily. But like one of my most

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like one of the best fascinating things
for me to read about when I was

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a historian or like learning to become
a historian was being like, what is

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this like, Like, I mean, the Bowery in New York was it

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was a huge thing. Like I
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tabletop RPG about running part of the
red light district in the Bowery, That

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would be awesome. There was even
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that stinks. I think it's the
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New Orleans that was like it was
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think about like that. Like maybe
we don't necessarily think about as like crime

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crime because like I don't necessarily but
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at the time, right, And
I think those are kind of interesting things

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and you could kind of play around
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want to be a half ork stripper. Be kind of fun. I don't

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know, I don't know, like
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by saying that word what we were
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stripper like a wire strip Yes,
exactly, you got it, yep.

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But half I'm actually I'm not an
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know. Make sure that you make
sure that you, you know, saved

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us. You use some on your
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don't I think you took us back
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forty not safe anymore? Can we
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too loose, That's what it does. That's what it does. I'm missed

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you. Man, this is nice. It does. Um, what's your

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next one? Because I, oh, God, off on a tangent again.

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You and I went completely different because
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I love it though, but that's
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crimes. I was thinking general crimes. Oh, god, crimes. This

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is a major crimes, major crimes. You know, you know what you

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get, you get major crimes.
God, this is what it's like with

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two point like one brain selp.
God. I don't not liking any of

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this. Um, I'll be honest
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I said, I was looking out
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I want this to be a game. So like, what is the biggest

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most specific crime. Well, I
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That's a really good call though,
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these types of games out there,
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there's been a Huger surgeon in games
like down Force. Oh no, no,

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no, no, where am I
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what is the origin of NASCAR Moonshine
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because it would add it keeps with
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do you want factions in your racing
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do. Yes. You know,
my great great grandfather was a shine runner,

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right. I believe that he was
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always be proud of. It.
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think that you could have a lot
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with goals. Essentially, instead of

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playing on a track, you're playing
in a city. Okay, you have

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to pick up and you have to
drop off, right, and you have

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the police are investigating and following.
Are the police a fact? Are the

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police of player control factor player control
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driven or player control faction at higher
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you could do that. You could
do what uh yeah, yeah, that

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would be kind of sick. We
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At that point. You easily could
yeah, oh push, oh my god,

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push your lock, Like, how
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Yep? Yep, get some asymmetry, what kind of you make more

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money for the longer runs, but
the more the longer run you do?

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But The issue is the longer than
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quicker times, right, So the
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yep, do you want to maybe
fend like you can reinvest in faster cars,

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which are really good. But eventually
if you get cornered, do you

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have to invest in firearms exactly?
So then carries the risk if you're being

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being in car straighter for Oh my
god, that's such a good call.

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Dude. Have you played Gang Rush
break out? No, it's still in

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my attic though I know you had
bought it and they got rid of it.

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Still, I think mine still,
but I think mind's up still for

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working signment might still be insuring.
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again because Gang Rush was pretty solid, like it just was a game that

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was like, man, I don't
think I'm ever gonna have It's so Gang

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Rush, if I'm not mistaken,
is quite literally you're just like going across

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a bridge trying to get a farrio
cart with machine guns. Yeah, but

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like and you can sabotage by dropping
like shipping containers on people. It's hysterical,

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like it's really good. Okay,
that is there another like really hyper

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specific crime or like, because like
Shine Running feels, it's not specific,

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it's more braun, but it's something
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love a Shine Running game. I
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you could even make it like not
the Captain is dead, but there

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was one where like every person is
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but the different mini games all feed
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space one. You've talked about it

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before. I believe there's like one
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the pucks at the aliens. Maybe
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And then one person is basically doing
a sliding puzzle and they're the ones

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in charge of like manning the ship's
communication equipment. And then one person is

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playing I kid you not, this
is a real game that exists, but

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like how cool to be to be
Like one person is playing the driving game

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that's like Gang Rush. One person
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is like building like your car.
One person is playing like a freaking engine

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builder where you're making the like where
you're literally brewing the hooch. Oh my

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god, dude, I'll want to
make it. It sounds so good,

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that's game it is, and they're
all, oh my god, him blank

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out. If you're one of the
people listening, unter, No, I

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love Cosmic Encounter, but it's not
cosmic encounter. If you're one of the

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people listening to this right now and
you know what the heck I'm talking about,

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please help me, please. Oh
more specific crimes, though. I

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would love a John Dillinger game.
Okay, like I would love a public

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I would love a public enemy game. On the topic of moonshine running,

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I would love a public enemy game, or like a Bonnie and Clyde game.

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No, I want a public enemy, I want I want Dillinger.

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Yeah, Dillinger feels more like a
folk hero than Bonnie and Clyde, who

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are just like murderers with really good
pr I mean again Bonnie and Clyde and

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Juliet, but now, yeah,
they really like murderers with really really really

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good pr Yeah, like really good
jr. Really good, like the best

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people at the best crime. Wait, way, you play as the Iceberg

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against the Titan God just okay,
I mean I'm in it's just a rogue

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Iceberger. Whenever I think of Bonnie
and Clyde, I think of leon I

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think of Titanic, and I think
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I go back to, well,
the Iceberg did it. Well,

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the Iceberg did it. So that's
a crime. Okay, hear me out,

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though, what if you're what if
you're the game as you're a pr

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team, a bunch of gangster like
our Bonnie and Clydes newspaper people. We're

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just gonna make unsocial network. But
about is this the better version of us?

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Probably the better version of on social
network. I'm down with that.

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I'm okay with it too. I
think this is a much better It is

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now a good time to announce it
on social network. Beating out red Pan

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or Redemption? Did it really?
Oh my god? It beat out?

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So hey, you know that bracket
for like a year? I don't you

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know the bracket? Oh my gosh. You know, it's kind of fun

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to think of that like that.
We did start with that bracket. We

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did five games ago. Yeah,
and literally five games ago. How does

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that feel? How does that?
How does that like? Five games?

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a new one apparently so and that's
not housing it. I mean, how

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so how badly did Unsocial Network beat
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funny because red Pant Redemption became a
game. Well, but that's the thing.

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At least we don't have to make
two red panted Redemption. That's very

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true. That's very true. So
as Unsocial Network just gonna get rebranded as

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the Crimes Crime Coverage is a great, great name for a game. Riley

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that come on on. And to
bring it full circle, you know the

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Clyde Barrow made of his own gun
called a whippet gun. Right, we

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did it? Yeah, we did
it. We did it. Um that

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you've been breaking and entering entertaining.
If you guys are also a fan of

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committing crimes, you can follow along
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dorks. Just Google Desks and dorks, you'll find us. We have a

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Kickstarter thing, and by that I
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Desks and dorks. Ye, look
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a fear Within, follow along fear
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coming along really Well, we're just
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Um, and eventually you should be
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from us. Yeah. That's like
something we're actually thinking of a being that

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is the change that like I've been
hitting on it on a couple of my

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videos. I think you have as
well. But like yeah, because people

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are like, hey, you know, can we get After the Rain from

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you? And it was a kind
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you know, get with Indie Press
Revolution. By the way, shout

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out IPR. You can go ahead
and get yourself a copy after any night

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are it. Also you can find
out where we're supplied to see if we're

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at a store near you, and
if we're not, you can go to

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your local game shop and tell them
you would love for them to carry us.

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Also, shout out to uh Pandamonium, which carried us at carried us

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at Paxia which east. That's right, it was Paxiast. We were at

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Paxiast. Well, our book was
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No, um, so that was
pretty cool too. But yeah, please

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interact with us. Tell me why
I'm wrong about unmatched. Most people do

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in the comments. Yeah, one
day, one day, that's gonna be.

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One day that's gonna be like the
greatest video. Well, like I

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said, one day you'll make I
assume you're just waiting for tales too amazed

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to come out to make a new
tier. Yeah, absolutely, I am,

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um, and I'm hopefully we'll get
to try a couple of those,

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a couple more expansions, like I
finally got to try what did I get

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to try? I have not tried
Genie, I haven't tried Udini. Well

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I assumed if you haven't tried the
one, you probably haven't tried the other.

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But sometimes, like people will bring
in their box set shot, I

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will try one play again. I
tried Baywolf though and read Riding Hood since

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the last time that I made the
Cheeralist. Those are both interesting. We're

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going to watal on about unmatched stuff. So if you are going to be

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here just for a rerregular skit longer
that is actually done talking about it.

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We're done talking about Unmatched for right
now. The podcast is done by every

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Wait, no, we're not because
I have a weird question. Well,

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yeah, that you wouldn't have forgotten. It's a weird question. Um what

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Okay, So this is inspired by
the fact that I, okay, if

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you watched Gunbuster the ANIMECA anime Gunbuster
or not, Now, wow, that's

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shocking because I figured you would all
like I don't have time to watch shows.

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That's fair. I'm not even caught
up on Gundham, which I already

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meca, Like holy haven't even seen
which Mercury in season two just dropped.

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I haven't even started it. Heard
it's really good, by the way,

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it is from what I've seen.
I've seen the trailers. Do you want?

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Do you want my crunchy role logging? I mean we could talk about

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this after the show, because you're
gonna give it to the entire to everyone

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just dif. Yeah, that's fair
because like I I'm watching Demon Slayer season

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because I'm bind I was behind on
anything else. Okay, what? Um?

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So actually this inspired because I thought
about Gunbuster. I thought about the

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Ugio dual disc. Um if you
could have one anime or let's do a

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cartoon. If you're you're not a
oh that Gunbuster a tremendous older one like

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me, What anime or cartoon device
for apparatus would you like to have?

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UM in the real world. We're
going to assume that it has all of

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its powers unless it is something world
ending or reality breaking. So like interesting

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because you brought up the the like
dual disc for Ugo. Yes, yes,

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it can make the Hologram monsters if
you pay the dual disc. Okay,

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I don't want that, but okay, that's it I want. We're

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gonna we're gonna talk about Gundham,
very surprise to anyone. Yes, okay,

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so Gundham came out with this meta
but not even meta the fourth wall

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breaking TV show called UM. But
there's a couple of them build fighters.

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Okay, they like build Fighters.
There's a couple other variations of it.

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Okay. What it is is you
quite literally you stand in front of these

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like VR style tables and you put
your gun to model that you've crafted and

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painted and adjusted inside of it,
and essentially it's fully scans it interest and

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then you control it in a VR
environment that's actually kind of really sick,

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and the weapons that it has everything
are based on the way you model it

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come to life. It's no ball
mech, but like it's well, you

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know you can you can have the
ball you Actually there's a there's one with

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a ball as a head. Yeah, exactly. So that that's what I

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want. I want a giant set
up that I could just have Mecca battles

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at any given time. I like
it. I know it's not as exciting,

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No, that is no, but
I like it though. That's a

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cool one. What are you thinking? Um, I can't believe I'm saying

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this that. The more I thought
about this question, I thought for sure

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it was going to be the dual
list for me. Yeah, because growing

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up like how dope is the dualist
I've never seen you. I'm just gonna

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I'll make it say it's dope.
I want Ben Ten's Omni Tricks. So

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that crossed my mind. I want
Ben Ten's Omni tricks. How freaking cool

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would the Omni Tricks be to have
in real life? If I could get

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so much stuff done? Like,
oh my gosh, the amount of stuff

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I could get completed with an Omni
Tricks is great, and if on board,

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I could put it on shuffle like
an iPod, just hit it and

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see what happens. You're not wrong, there's disadvantages to that. I think

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there are some. I'm sure.
Yeah, because apparently Ben Ten's hip with

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the kids again. He is.
There's like a new season. I guess

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that's like somebody brought that up and
I was like, you know, an

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Omni tricks in real life, Yeah, would be really cool, be able

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to turn this millions. Well that's
it, folks. Thank you so much

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again for listening. Um, you
guys are great. Yeah, thank you, goodbye bye