1 00:00:01,919 --> 00:00:07,599 Hello, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the first episode of the Alien Retrospective. 2 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,720 I'm the clown Prints of Eggs trust Now, and I'm joined by I 3 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:18,600 am the Face Hugger Kirkland Patzer, I'm Dolmas. I'm gonna be big Chap 4 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,440 Taylorfield. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, at the time, if you're on 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:24,399 Patreon, you could have got this month or that's why I do it, 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,440 because you get episodes ad free, early exclusive always the retros usually early, 7 00:00:28,719 --> 00:00:32,399 a lot of other good stuff bread and butter after nine originals, two to 8 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:36,679 three episodes exclusive every month, RSS feed, lots of good jazz. Description 9 00:00:36,759 --> 00:00:39,479 down below for everything you need to know. So if you're Patron, this 10 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:43,200 is not applicable to you. But if you're not, the season of X 11 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,320 is over and the season of Aliens here because this is gonna be one of 12 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:50,320 our longer retros and it's gonna go out quite a bit of ways. It 13 00:00:50,359 --> 00:00:53,200 is. We're gonna do all the movies, so we're gonna do Alien like 14 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,640 we're doing all the originals, so Alien one to Alien four, we're gonna 15 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,640 cover the prequels, Prometheus and Alien cover it again because it's been five years. 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,680 I'm not sure if Dylan's gonna be on that one. He just did 17 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,560 we have a five year roll, and yeah, we haven't. We haven't 18 00:01:11,599 --> 00:01:12,959 done a well And I don't think Kirkland was on that review. Ever seen 19 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:17,599 that movie? Yeah, I think it was just it was me, Taylor, 20 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:19,239 Dylan Briggs. I think that was the only that was the force of 21 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:23,519 that time. And then we're also so we're doing the two prequels, then 22 00:01:23,519 --> 00:01:26,840 we're gonna go back and do a two fur and we're doing an Alien Slash 23 00:01:26,879 --> 00:01:33,319 Predator retrospective because we will be doing the AVP movies. I think Taylor has 24 00:01:33,359 --> 00:01:36,359 been pitching this since like years, since we started the retros, and I 25 00:01:36,439 --> 00:01:38,840 was like, oh, geta wait, and it's finally here. We did 26 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:41,920 the Predator retro last year, so go back and maybe I'll release a couple 27 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:44,560 of those back in the feed so you get it's a nice energy. And 28 00:01:44,599 --> 00:01:48,280 then on side quest, Dylan's gonna be doing a retrospective with Taylor and maybe 29 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,120 Kirkland. I'd like to jump on the Zone Games past. I think it 30 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,640 was at one point if it's if it successible either way, there will be 31 00:01:55,680 --> 00:02:00,280 one at some point of Alien Isolation a very herald game. Yeah, people 32 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,200 love that. And then also we're going to be doing a Calm ex version 33 00:02:04,239 --> 00:02:09,439 where we're going to do Predator Versus Wolverine and then Avengers Versus Aliens that the 34 00:02:09,439 --> 00:02:13,479 Predator Wolverine one has already been out, and then the Alien Versus Avengers that's 35 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,599 coming out this summer. They're both only four issues, so it's just eight 36 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,919 issues, so we're gonna read those as well. So you got a lot 37 00:02:19,919 --> 00:02:22,520 of different things going on here at the Alien retros. So we're covering it 38 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,080 and we're killing all those AVP movies. We've done everything an Alien Predator, 39 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:30,000 We've touched the whole gamut here in the space realm as far as sci fi 40 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,719 big movies. But I'm gonna let the man with the legend first, mister 41 00:02:34,759 --> 00:02:38,080 Field go on here usually go last. But I know Alien is as bag 42 00:02:38,159 --> 00:02:43,080 so Alien. So Taylor, what was the first time you saw this movie? 43 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,800 And then now what are your thoughts so many years there as we lead 44 00:02:45,879 --> 00:02:51,639 up to Alien Romulus. The first time I saw this movie was yeah, 45 00:02:51,719 --> 00:02:55,319 the teen teen years, young teen years. I not the old teen years, 46 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:59,479 not the old teen years, the young teen years. My first experience 47 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,680 with the Xenomorphs was through that first Alien versus Predator, and I was aware 48 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,840 of them, and I was definitely a big fan of the Predator, and 49 00:03:05,879 --> 00:03:07,719 I told my dad, okay, like, that's where it started, and 50 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:14,240 I much. I again, I was a little kid, So I remember 51 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:19,439 getting the VHS rental for AVP and we popped it on and I thought, 52 00:03:19,439 --> 00:03:22,360 okay, like I was already familiar with predators, but this was me kind 53 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:23,639 of warming up to the aliens. I was send me aware of them, 54 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:27,879 and they just really freaked me out and grossed me out with just the face 55 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,479 hugger and the concept of impregnation down the throat into like the chest bursters and 56 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:37,120 what anyway, So that was my introduction and I thought and built up enough 57 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,840 courage, like Okay, Dad, I want to go into this franchise and 58 00:03:40,879 --> 00:03:46,639 start to learn more about this history. So I would have been like twelve 59 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:50,919 or thirteen when we got that first Alien and we rented it, and it 60 00:03:51,159 --> 00:03:59,039 just cemented itself as a just a classic love of a like a feature film 61 00:03:59,039 --> 00:04:01,879 that I just I I think it's aged really really well, and it's something 62 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:05,280 that every time it comes on I could easily just sit there and get engaged 63 00:04:05,319 --> 00:04:09,560 into it. I know maybe some people feel like it has a bit of 64 00:04:09,599 --> 00:04:12,879 a slow burn to it, kind of building up, but I feel like 65 00:04:12,879 --> 00:04:15,920 from start to finish, I'm engaged in this movie. I love the dialogue 66 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,680 that's going on. There's so many things that's kind of like the scene wion't 67 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,800 necessarily be focused on a character in the background. It's focused on your character 68 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,839 up front, but the characters in the background are talking as if like it's 69 00:04:25,879 --> 00:04:29,040 they're they're in part, They're part of the scene. It's very important dialogue. 70 00:04:29,040 --> 00:04:32,399 They're engaging with their main characters. But there's a lot of cool things 71 00:04:32,439 --> 00:04:34,600 that's going on. I really really appreciate how what they did, and this 72 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:39,920 being a seventies film, there's so many really amazing visuals too, Like it's 73 00:04:41,399 --> 00:04:44,879 some of the designs for the ships just from it gives me Star Wars vibes 74 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,079 too. But it's not like this is Star Wars. This is very much 75 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,720 its own thing. It has its own unique identity, and it has so 76 00:04:50,879 --> 00:04:56,680 much mysterious kind of notions going on with that. I just I love this 77 00:04:56,759 --> 00:05:00,959 film, and it's it's just it's cemented into that that the Xenomorph fandom that 78 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:04,279 I have, and yeah, I love the history and the Zeno Wars, 79 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:12,079 like this kind of culture and this storyline with these aliens. Like you can 80 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,519 go to any bookstore right now and you will find like tons of present day 81 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,600 anthologies, you know, moreph novels that are just still being written because there's 82 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,160 so many different storylines you can just tap into and read, and there's so 83 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:23,480 many that I want to get into. I've only done a few comics. 84 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,480 And then the games are always something that have been day one for me. 85 00:05:27,519 --> 00:05:30,680 I'm always get getting those games unless eb Games is fucking me over ordering online. 86 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:36,000 Never forget that. But I played that what's that one? Fire fire 87 00:05:36,079 --> 00:05:42,800 squad Storm, isn't it Fire Team? There's Fire Team Elite, and then 88 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,839 there's Dark Descent. I've played Fire Team Elite. Is what games fucked me 89 00:05:46,879 --> 00:05:49,639 over? I could have got a Day one in the store, but I 90 00:05:49,759 --> 00:05:53,399 ordered it online and so I had to wait two weeks for it to ship 91 00:05:53,439 --> 00:05:56,360 to me. It's fucking bullshit. Oh I remember that, Yeah, the 92 00:05:56,399 --> 00:06:02,920 whole big events. Yeah, so my excitement for Alien Romulus is just it's 93 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,160 through the roof, through the roof into space, all the way to LV 94 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:12,560 four twenty six. I'm so right there right now. And I the fact 95 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:18,560 too that this movie I think is going to be really very much So I 96 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:24,439 think watching this and watching Aliens is great for everyone going into watching Alien Romulus, 97 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:28,240 because I think Alien Romulus is gonna just be piggybacking off of so many 98 00:06:28,319 --> 00:06:30,560 of those things in those two films that people are gonna go in and they're 99 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:32,839 gonna feel like, oh, this is very familiar. So if you haven't 100 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:36,240 seen Alien or Aliens, you're still gonna go see Romulus. You're gonna just 101 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:41,160 feel this recognition to this franchise, and something's gonna feel very familiar, and 102 00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:43,240 it's gonna feel like, oh, I'm right back in this universe. And 103 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:46,720 if you have watched them, then you're gonna go into Romulus thinking, Okay, 104 00:06:46,759 --> 00:06:49,680 I can make all these connections. There's so many callbacks and little nods 105 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:54,720 and easter eggs towards those original films, and even some of the scenes from 106 00:06:54,759 --> 00:06:58,439 the trailers of Romulus. It's it's funny how you can stack it up with 107 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:04,680 moments in the original two movies, because it feels like it's different, different 108 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:09,160 stario. It is risky it's very risky, but I think that it's been 109 00:07:09,639 --> 00:07:14,279 far enough away that people are gonna welcome it and kind of embrace it a 110 00:07:14,319 --> 00:07:18,199 little bit. I think that if they were to be if they were to 111 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,240 do Alien Romulus two and still be doing that kind of shit, I don't 112 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:27,199 think it would work very well. But I think after the Prometheus and the 113 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:30,639 Covenant trips, I think that something like this, going back to form, 114 00:07:30,759 --> 00:07:32,800 back to basics, is going to do really really well. And I think 115 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:39,040 people are really craving that very simplistic kind of set piece that this alien film 116 00:07:39,079 --> 00:07:43,720 has too, because this movie has such a great it's such a great set. 117 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,720 I would love to have just been there and walk around that set and 118 00:07:46,759 --> 00:07:50,199 just see how they've built everything from the interior of the ships. It's such 119 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:55,199 a simple, claustrophobic setting, and I think that's another thing that really makes 120 00:07:55,240 --> 00:07:59,120 this movie do really, really well. And even though I've seen it a 121 00:07:59,199 --> 00:08:01,120 dozens of times, I love the times where you feel like you can't really 122 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,120 get a gauge on what's going on. Are they staying on the planet. 123 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,800 Does this movie take place where they're stranded here? Nope, Okay, it 124 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:09,759 takes place stranded on their ship and so many different set pieces that are just 125 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,399 really wonderful. I could keep going on and on, but I'll let someone 126 00:08:13,399 --> 00:08:18,839 else take over now, So yeah, I'll take it. I'll take the 127 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:24,279 ring from Frodo there. It's funny. My origin story is pretty similar to 128 00:08:24,319 --> 00:08:26,759 Taylor's here where I feel like my first experience with the Xenomorphs was through Alien 129 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:35,000 Versus Predator that very first place, and I hadn't seen this original one probably 130 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:39,799 the first decade of my life, like after closer to the second decade in 131 00:08:39,799 --> 00:08:43,200 my life, like like I feel like high school era would have been the 132 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:46,600 first time I actually saw this first film. It was my first alien film 133 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,879 because clearly i'd seen Alien Versus Predator, I'd seen Prometheus in theaters, not 134 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,879 knowing that it was like an alien movie at all. So that was kind 135 00:08:54,879 --> 00:08:58,639 of a mind blow moment near the end. And like there obviously is the 136 00:08:58,759 --> 00:09:01,320 I mean, we'll get to that movie, but there's things in that which 137 00:09:01,320 --> 00:09:05,799 are directly tied obviously to this one. But because I didn't know like what 138 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,399 the architects were or like any of that stuff, it just felt like a 139 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,399 brand new sci fi film. So that's it was kind of a fun experience. 140 00:09:11,399 --> 00:09:16,120 But for Alien, I feel like I knew mostly what it was through 141 00:09:16,159 --> 00:09:22,159 just like pop culture references The Great Conquers Bad for a Day, anybody played 142 00:09:22,159 --> 00:09:24,159 that game way back in the day, They have like an Alien reference at 143 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:28,799 the end where you like fight as you know more of essentially, so I 144 00:09:28,879 --> 00:09:31,639 knew of like most of the twists and turns other than a major one that 145 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:35,480 happened in this. So my first time actually viewing this film, it really 146 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,840 blew my mind, honestly, Like I think I was expecting, like sometimes 147 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,519 you hear of like a really good classic film and it's it's really good, 148 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:46,399 it's really well made, but it's just a lot of datedness to it. 149 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:50,320 There's a lot of maybe they're trying to do too much with the technology that 150 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:54,039 they have, but and it like really shows through and it's just like, 151 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,559 ah, this isn't quite for me. But this movie, from the first 152 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:01,759 time I had seen it, it really just blew my mind in how well 153 00:10:01,799 --> 00:10:05,639 it was made and how they really did the best with what they had, 154 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:09,399 and like I think it totally shows and yeah, like you mentioned, this 155 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:16,200 movie is slow for good portions, Like you know, spoilers if anyone doesn't 156 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,759 seen this movie. You don't see the alien until like seventy minutes into this 157 00:10:18,799 --> 00:10:22,679 movie, which is just absolutely crazy. So get to the egg still thirty 158 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:26,320 three minutes because I paused to see because I was just waiting to scene. 159 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,120 You don't even get to the eggs till thirty. Yeah, but like it 160 00:10:28,159 --> 00:10:31,840 doesn't make it not scary in the beginning. Like there's just so much suspense 161 00:10:31,919 --> 00:10:35,480 and building towards of like what the big thread is, and when you actually 162 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,480 see it, it just it blows your mind. So yeah, this is 163 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:43,120 by far one of my favorite movies of all time. I really really really 164 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:46,440 love this movie. I feel like the more I seen it, I've probably 165 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:50,639 seen it like five times in my life now, and like just yesterday i 166 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,159 rewatched it. I'm like, fuck, this is just quality. Like I 167 00:10:54,480 --> 00:11:00,320 just can't find faults with this movie. Maybe there's like a weird jump like 168 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:05,840 an animatronic type character to like an actor at a certain moment, but like, 169 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,559 yeah, like it's pretty easy to look past that, just because I 170 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:13,639 feel like they do such a great job at building the suspense really giving like 171 00:11:15,919 --> 00:11:18,879 most of the characters at least like some good personality. I think the vast 172 00:11:18,879 --> 00:11:22,240 majority of them. They are their own characters and they are unique and they 173 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:26,639 have their own kind of personalities. And yeah, I like, can I 174 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:31,879 mentioned it just like the you were mentioned like some of the spaceship type things 175 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,320 is remind you of like Star Wars. I think just like that, it's 176 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:39,320 like a retro like almost like a steam punky type like feel to the ships. 177 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,519 I don't know a better way to describe it, but just like all 178 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:46,120 like the switches and lights and and just things on screen, Like I just 179 00:11:46,159 --> 00:11:48,759 really love that style. I feel like it probably originates from those original Star 180 00:11:48,799 --> 00:11:52,759 Wars and to see it here again like it just I don't know, I 181 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:58,879 really like that style of sci fi. Yeah, no, I I fucking 182 00:11:58,919 --> 00:12:01,240 love this movie. Really. Scott is just a mastermind, and this is 183 00:12:01,279 --> 00:12:03,919 one I don't do this for a lot of movies, but like I watched 184 00:12:03,919 --> 00:12:09,200 like all like the bonus like features and like just like the the like really 185 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,960 Scott talking about like certain decisions on like what they were gonna do, and 186 00:12:13,639 --> 00:12:16,559 yeah, it's just it's so fascinating to me to like get those insights on 187 00:12:16,639 --> 00:12:20,440 a movie from nineteen seventy nine that I think just one hundred percent holds up 188 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,919 one of my favorite horror movies, one of my favorite movies ever. So 189 00:12:22,519 --> 00:12:28,120 yeah, I fucking love this one. Excited unpack with you guys, mister 190 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,720 muss. I remember when the first times went to your place. I think 191 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:35,480 there was a VHS of Alien was always on top of somewhere on like we 192 00:12:35,519 --> 00:12:37,440 had the bookshelf. Yeah, on the bookshelf, yeah, sometimes on the 193 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:41,519 cement as well, So I remember always seeing that a lot in the basement. 194 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:46,720 Yeah. I have a pretty weird history with these movies. The origin 195 00:12:46,759 --> 00:12:50,159 point I can't quite remember, but it's one of these two things. So 196 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:56,039 first is my dad growing up was always watching like Terminator, Predator, Alien. 197 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,559 I feel like I never was really watching them, but they were always 198 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:03,159 on in the background. So there's just kind of this ambient nostalgia of those 199 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:07,799 movies being on and existing. But then I think maybe the first time I 200 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:13,080 actually connected with Alien was weirdly enough, my first video game console was the 201 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:18,039 NES, the Nintendo Entertainment System, and it was a used NES. It 202 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,399 came with a bunch of random games like of course Mario and like this Sesame 203 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,120 street game, but also like an Alien game. I think it was Alien 204 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:30,200 three specifically, and it was like a metroid vania, like a two D 205 00:13:30,399 --> 00:13:33,879 action combat sort of game. And I just remember playing that game as a 206 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:37,279 kid, and it was way too confusing considering that was, like, you 207 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:41,399 know, one of the very first video games I ever played, it made 208 00:13:41,399 --> 00:13:45,320 no sense to me after I've played Mario, so I didn't get very far. 209 00:13:45,399 --> 00:13:48,120 And eventually I did boot that game up again, like many many years 210 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:50,399 later, having on my bookshelf behind me still here, and it's a very 211 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,159 funny, weird game to go back to. So one of those two things 212 00:13:54,159 --> 00:13:56,919 would be the origin. And then I feel like I never really connected with 213 00:13:56,960 --> 00:14:01,679 Alien for a while until once again another video game. I remember there was 214 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:05,600 a demo for like Alien versus Predator, like a game on the Xbox three 215 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,759 sixty, the twenty ten one, I think it was the twenty ten to 216 00:14:09,799 --> 00:14:11,639 one, and I never bought the game or rented it, but I just 217 00:14:11,919 --> 00:14:16,080 had this free, you know, Xbox three sixty demo and you could play 218 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,080 online and I would play as the Alien. It was like the Alien versus 219 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:20,799 pres There was also like a Marine, which was just like a classic first 220 00:14:20,799 --> 00:14:24,720 person shooter. Played the hell out of that demo great time, but then 221 00:14:24,759 --> 00:14:28,759 it was probably about ten years ago, I would guess, like right, 222 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:33,600 kind of before the podcast era, when Yeah, I whipped out those VHS 223 00:14:33,639 --> 00:14:37,600 tapes that Travis was talking about and did a marathon watching all of the original 224 00:14:37,679 --> 00:14:41,320 movies, and so that was the first time that I had done that. 225 00:14:41,399 --> 00:14:43,600 So it was fun to, you know, ten years ago watch them on 226 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,480 VHS. Kind of dated format at that point in time, but yeah, 227 00:14:46,639 --> 00:14:50,480 I really enjoyed them. There was something different. Even at that point my 228 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,799 life, I didn't really watch any horror stuff as well, so it was 229 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,840 kind of out of my wheelhouse. And then I it must have been when 230 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:00,440 one of these newer alien movies that we've discussed in the g geek for era, 231 00:15:01,039 --> 00:15:03,039 when I went and rewatched probably the first one. I don't know if 232 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:07,000 I rewatched any of the other ones. So honestly, we're watching this it 233 00:15:07,039 --> 00:15:09,519 was very foggy. And rewatching the other ones, I'm sure is gonna be 234 00:15:09,879 --> 00:15:13,440 incredibly foggy. I'm excited to do that. And then yeah, I mean 235 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:16,360 you can go back and hear my thoughts in those movies that were reviewed. 236 00:15:16,399 --> 00:15:18,919 I don't even know what my thoughts on Prometheus are. That's why it's good 237 00:15:18,919 --> 00:15:22,600 that we are doing a retro on that because I can't even remember. And 238 00:15:22,639 --> 00:15:26,120 then Covenant I was not a not a big fan of. So yeah, 239 00:15:26,399 --> 00:15:28,919 a very weird, kind of fractured history with this series. But I am 240 00:15:28,919 --> 00:15:31,759 excited to go back through it because yeah, as I said, it's kind 241 00:15:31,759 --> 00:15:35,799 of got this like the ambient nostalgia for me, but is one that I 242 00:15:35,799 --> 00:15:41,200 haven't spent a ton of time with since and then rewatching it now. It's 243 00:15:41,399 --> 00:15:45,000 a very interesting movie just because of like how historically important it is, how 244 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,399 cool it is from like just the cinema history angle of it to see what 245 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,759 they were able to accomplish here. And I think the visuals is one of 246 00:15:52,759 --> 00:15:56,639 my favorite parts about this, like the sets that Taylor mentioned or yeah, 247 00:15:56,679 --> 00:16:00,919 the spaceships that that that Kirklam was mentioned there, but whatever, it is, 248 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,559 Like I thought, like all that stuff was really engaging to me. 249 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:06,320 It was really cool, and just reading in on like how they were able 250 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:10,000 to achieve some of that back then was really really cool. And I like 251 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:15,279 a lot of the characters and the story and stuff. I think it's ended 252 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:18,879 up being a bit more lukewarm on it overall then I maybe expected. I 253 00:16:18,879 --> 00:16:21,279 think there's just a lot of parts that this, As you guys mentioned, 254 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:22,720 like it takes a lot of time to build up certain things, and for 255 00:16:22,759 --> 00:16:26,799 me, a lot of those like weren't really intense or tense building suspense building 256 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,200 moments, So you just got like these random scenes that aren't doing a whole 257 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,000 lot for me. And then I think where it kind of falls apart a 258 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,840 bit for me is like the final action sequence does not hold up whatsoever. 259 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:41,639 It's terrible. It sucks. And there's a couple other moments too where like 260 00:16:41,679 --> 00:16:48,840 the special effects just don't work, the practical effects, they don't look good 261 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,159 anymore, and they don't work for me. And I guess I'm not quite 262 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:56,519 nostalgic enough for like the exact scenes for them to still like be happy memories 263 00:16:56,519 --> 00:16:59,360 in my mind. And like, you know, MUDs was watching the end 264 00:16:59,399 --> 00:17:00,759 of it with me. You're just laughing at some of the stuff with the 265 00:17:00,759 --> 00:17:03,640 alien because it just looks so dumb. So you know, it takes me 266 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,559 out of it a bit when when that stuff's happening. But I still had 267 00:17:07,599 --> 00:17:10,160 a really good time going back through this, and I'm excited to, uh, 268 00:17:10,319 --> 00:17:11,200 yeah, blast the wrest them. It's gonna be a good time. 269 00:17:12,319 --> 00:17:18,400 Yeah, I was just laughing thinking about David Covenant air going and everything like 270 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,319 that. I'm excited to get back there. But uh yeah, So I 271 00:17:21,319 --> 00:17:25,160 don't know when i'd seen this. This was just a randomly like but for 272 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:26,440 my first time, I don't know. It just felt like a movie that 273 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:30,480 I consumed at some point when I was definitely younger, definitely just watching a 274 00:17:30,519 --> 00:17:36,039 bunch of movies, so I remember enjoying it. But I just was like, 275 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:37,599 yeah, I like those, and this is definitely the one I've seen 276 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,319 the most. I've seen the sequels here and there. I'm definitely we'll get 277 00:17:41,319 --> 00:17:45,240 to an alien versus an Aliens. Guys like no, big surprise. The 278 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:47,920 guy that says like I'm not big into action movies, like that's Aliens, 279 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,000 right, That's the big action movie. So for me, I loved the 280 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:53,839 and man one of the best taglines ever, like no one hears you screaming 281 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:57,720 space like man that is like like everyone go home, Like you never taught 282 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,039 that one. But when I really I think started to fall in love with 283 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:06,160 and when I remember it more is in god grade ten, when I was 284 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:11,279 in film class, we watched this is the first ever assignment we had, 285 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:17,759 and we all learned about like blocking and compositing and everything you could because for 286 00:18:17,839 --> 00:18:22,240 like a filmmaker watching this for many reasons, right, like the small locations, 287 00:18:22,319 --> 00:18:26,960 the not lower budget per se, but more the practical effects, how 288 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,400 to pace the story, how to do reveals. This was in there and 289 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:33,680 you're making notes and I remember my teacher, Oh god, I can't remember 290 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,559 his last name, Brent something, but he actually went to high school with 291 00:18:36,559 --> 00:18:38,519 my dad, so it was funny when we met up. They're like, 292 00:18:38,519 --> 00:18:41,799 oh, yeah, I know, and they actually just talked last year because 293 00:18:41,799 --> 00:18:45,039 he's still in a band, so yeah, they bumped in each other. 294 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,200 So uh yeah. This was one where it was on these he'd probably okay, 295 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:49,160 tell me about this or what we look out here, So that's why 296 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,200 it's kind of burning my brain of like okay. And that was around the 297 00:18:52,279 --> 00:18:57,079 time again I was starting to look at film differently, not exactly because two 298 00:18:57,079 --> 00:19:00,559 thousand and six is when I started to watch morecro like adult things where affect. 299 00:19:00,599 --> 00:19:03,480 When I watched this is before two thousand and six, but it was 300 00:19:03,519 --> 00:19:07,599 like just another horror movie. But uh yeah, no, I'm more with 301 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,400 Kirkland Taylor where I for me, it stands up. I love the horror 302 00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:15,359 aspects. I love just I love the slow built. I'm never bored, 303 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:17,880 And I think the reason why I'm not bored is I think it's almost like 304 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,720 what we talked about the Nian Jones, where the ship, the location, 305 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:26,519 the out like whether it's in Tier X tiar, because everything's built and real, 306 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,000 you're just looking at it and examining it. Where when it's cgi and 307 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,799 stuff like that, I just feel like it all becomes like a like a 308 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:36,400 this sounds bad a painting, and not bad in the way where old paintings 309 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:37,359 are, you know, boring, just the way that it all just looks 310 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:42,000 like it's not three dimensional. It's all just flat there and it's just all 311 00:19:42,079 --> 00:19:45,000 that. That's what the wall looks like. That's what these controls look like. 312 00:19:45,039 --> 00:19:48,319 But this all little choices. I love they do. This is Ridley 313 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,960 Scott special they do this year. They do this some Blade Runner. That's 314 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,319 why I love The Batman, where it's like future tech, but it looks 315 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,440 old. It looks worn down. Even Star Wars had that right. That's 316 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,559 one of my issues with the prequels is it's older than the New Hope and 317 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,400 everything looks better. It doesn't make much sense to me, right, So 318 00:20:04,279 --> 00:20:07,559 I love the lived in world and I think I love one. The Alien 319 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:11,519 is just to me fucking super scary, like the design of it, the 320 00:20:11,519 --> 00:20:15,240 look of it, everything about it. Alien and Predator. I could go 321 00:20:15,279 --> 00:20:18,599 back and forth, because there's aspects of Predator I really enjoy, but I 322 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,640 think I lean towards the actual movie Alien just the idea, especially just Alien 323 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:25,400 one, because that thing, the way they shoot it, the way it 324 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,400 creeps around, the use of it. My favorite usage is when the guy's 325 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:33,640 like in like the smote whatever what is that called the vents or whatnot, 326 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,880 and just that bill of out's going and then just that one shot. I 327 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:40,640 love how sparingly they use it until the end. And for the most part 328 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,440 it looks pretty good for when the data came out for being a practical and 329 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:48,160 a guy in a suit sometimes like it looks very good for what they could 330 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,559 do back then. Even then it stands up, it looks scarier than a 331 00:20:51,599 --> 00:20:55,559 lot of other things nowadays. That again just get the digital effect. And 332 00:20:55,880 --> 00:21:00,960 what I love is there's every act has like a miss. The first act 333 00:21:00,079 --> 00:21:03,279 is kind of why they why they're what are they doing? The second act, 334 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,599 of course, is the Alien. There is how we escape, but 335 00:21:06,599 --> 00:21:10,519 then there's also the on Top of the Corporation. There's on top of Ash 336 00:21:10,559 --> 00:21:11,880 and that whole thing, you know, shouts of Bill Boonie and home. 337 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,720 He's great in this movie. There's always something so in the in the middle 338 00:21:15,759 --> 00:21:21,200 of they're dealing with this death machine in Alien, there's still this mystery of, 339 00:21:21,279 --> 00:21:23,440 Eh, this guy's not right and what's the up to? So that's 340 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:26,200 why I love There's just so many layers to it. So yeah, it's 341 00:21:26,279 --> 00:21:30,480 Uh, I don't know if I go back. It's not like a once 342 00:21:30,599 --> 00:21:33,079 year watch, but I definitely go back to and it's like now that we 343 00:21:33,079 --> 00:21:37,000 don't have cable. But I think it's more like what Taya talked about that 344 00:21:37,079 --> 00:21:40,480 if I'm kind of in the mood, I especially with it be on Disney. 345 00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:42,640 Plus, if I just see that low ah, it'd be it'd be 346 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,400 worth my time to watch. I don't deal with the whole series because there 347 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,519 is some stinkers in there, uh, And sin Gourney's a great lead. 348 00:21:48,599 --> 00:21:52,400 Everyone's like great in here, but sin Gourney like she is, she really 349 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:56,880 like her and Jamie Lee you could trace back to being the tubul that really 350 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,000 started. There's other people, but to me those are the ones for horror 351 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,839 and then for sci fi and action that started, like the female hero and 352 00:22:04,079 --> 00:22:07,240 just you know, they do a good line of you know, they make 353 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:11,279 her sexy but also kind of dangerous and sparred. And first thing in the 354 00:22:11,319 --> 00:22:14,440 movie, she's the only person says, hey, maybe should have let this 355 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:15,759 person on the ship and no one listens, and they would have just listened 356 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:18,640 in the first half an hour, you know, there'd be no movie, 357 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,599 so of course it'd be done. But she tries to say, hey, 358 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,160 don't do this, it's probably gonna be a bad thing, and no, 359 00:22:23,519 --> 00:22:27,359 no, so uh no, love the movie. It's great. I'm excited 360 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,440 to talk more about it. It's not tublet this franchise, but yeah, 361 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,400 they only is just just a nightmare of feel, especially in this movie, 362 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,839 the way they the way they shoot that thing, the goo, everything is 363 00:22:37,319 --> 00:22:38,119 that's scary. I would not want it, Like, that's the thing. 364 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,400 I know. I died by both, but if I had to choose, 365 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,119 I choose to fight the predator. There's just something about it because the just 366 00:22:45,759 --> 00:22:48,119 pretty swifter kill. I think, right, I wouldn't want to get intercepted 367 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:56,039 with a baby thing in my chest too, like reason, right, what 368 00:22:56,039 --> 00:22:59,160 do you go for? What do you hit? You know? Reason with 369 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,599 the predator? Come on, you can't, you can't, you can't. 370 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,079 We'll talk about that and you're like here take this like oh a fact, 371 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,920 and he beams away. You know, we'll get there. I guess, 372 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:15,000 yeah, where we want to start. I wanted to start actually with what 373 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,160 you're talking about there with SIGs. I agree. I think she's absolutely fantastic, 374 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:22,039 but something that I think is really interesting. It caught me, I 375 00:23:22,039 --> 00:23:25,480 think my second last view of this. I've seen this movie twice, I 376 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:29,880 think within the year, so it's it's pretty recent that second viewing there, 377 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:33,640 but it it it. I feel like, for the for a good chunk 378 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,359 of the film, at least the first act, she's not really like like 379 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:42,759 there's no real like one lead of the film until things really start getting interesting, 380 00:23:42,839 --> 00:23:47,279 I feel. And and that's something that I just appreciate so much more 381 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:52,160 like I'll have to pull up the IMDb list of their names, but Dallas 382 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,759 like the captain, Like I I feel like he's like a really great captain 383 00:23:56,799 --> 00:24:00,400 too, for the most part, like he seems charismatic and he just seems 384 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,519 like someone that you would probably want to be following, you know, until 385 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:07,519 they encounter some weirdness and he's I'm the captain, open the door right now, 386 00:24:07,599 --> 00:24:11,599 Like that's when he starts to you know, maybe be a bit of 387 00:24:11,599 --> 00:24:14,680 a failure of a captain. But I just feel like, I don't know, 388 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,279 as mentioned this on my overall thoughts, but just they do a pretty 389 00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:22,359 good job at giving pretty much all the characters like sometime to just talk and 390 00:24:22,559 --> 00:24:26,240 like just I don't know, be themselves, And I feel like just them 391 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:33,119 chatting amongst each other is just a really interesting thing to take in for a 392 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,759 movie. And like, really, I'm thinking of my first time viewing it 393 00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:40,440 here where I just assume Sigourney Weaver was just the very standout lead, which 394 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,480 she is later on, but just the setup of it, like it's not 395 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,640 like she's the one that wakes up and she's the one doing the journals and 396 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,920 she's the one that's like doing all these decisions and telling like she's not really 397 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:55,079 the captain right at the beginning. So I just find it interesting how she 398 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:59,359 becomes the lead because everyone just starts fucking dying around her. She's the last 399 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,480 one standing. Obviously in Aliens too, she's she's just the straight up lead. 400 00:25:03,559 --> 00:25:08,759 But because this would have been her first film, right too, Yeah, 401 00:25:08,759 --> 00:25:11,839 am I mistaken in that aspect? I feel like this is her first 402 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:17,359 fold it's a big factor film, so it's interesting to have her in that 403 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:22,240 role. But no more so just the yeah, the collaborative leads, I 404 00:25:22,279 --> 00:25:26,119 guess in the beginning of it. Yeah, I think it's a it's a 405 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,519 cool evolution for her as a character, as you're saying, like kind of 406 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,839 being a background or like an ensemble cast type character for the first section. 407 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:37,319 Not her first movie. I'm also seeing that looks like she had a She 408 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:41,160 started working nineteen ninety six. She was in TV show, then she was 409 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:42,799 in Nanny Hall. She had a lot of small roles. This is definitely 410 00:25:42,839 --> 00:25:48,680 her big movie. Maybe she's in the mad Men of course in nineteen seventy 411 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:55,480 eight Couch on Him. Yeah, no, that's mad Men. This is 412 00:25:55,519 --> 00:25:59,480 mad Man. This mad Men's a sequel to mad Man. Interesting. I 413 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:00,799 always thought the so what's her first film? Because I knew she did like 414 00:26:02,039 --> 00:26:04,759 stage acting, like I'm sure she probably it probably listed like her first starring 415 00:26:04,799 --> 00:26:08,000 film because it kind of is, right and then a couple not even a 416 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,359 couple. She's it feels like it's closer, but Ghostbusters is nineteen eighty Four's 417 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,680 it's five years later, so it just feels like, in my mind they're 418 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,599 really close, but they're they're not that. And even Aliens is nineteen eighty 419 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,400 six. That's quite a delay there. I don't realize it was so much 420 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,079 later. That's not it used to be in Hollywood. Yeah, No, 421 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,759 I think it's it's great though, to see yeah, from kind of just 422 00:26:27,799 --> 00:26:32,720 being out one of the quote unquote background characters, and then I love the 423 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,400 moment when whatever it is, like two or three people are off the ship 424 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,200 and she's like, well, I'm the effective commander now at this point. 425 00:26:38,279 --> 00:26:41,799 Yeah, and just kind of like stepping up into that role is really great. 426 00:26:41,799 --> 00:26:44,319 And then like skipping to the end there too, when yeah, she 427 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:48,960 kind of is just the sole actor in this movie at this point. She 428 00:26:48,079 --> 00:26:52,720 does all that stuff really great, and I think it's a really fun evolution. 429 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:53,960 It's like, I don't know, I feel like if I didn't know 430 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,720 that she was the star of this movie, I wouldn't expect that if I 431 00:26:57,759 --> 00:27:00,160 was just watching it for the first half or you wouldn't like see it coming. 432 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,480 So I think it's kind of cool the way that evolves, and then 433 00:27:03,519 --> 00:27:07,960 she really, yeah, it does get a lot more like a good personality 434 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,680 character kind of filled in as it goes along, and she's kind of forced 435 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,559 to know, we should we did this for you dead, and we should 436 00:27:12,599 --> 00:27:15,160 do some in this cast. And polt with the trailer was the original one 437 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:21,000 because I feel like with Zigs being the lead with Ash with even to John 438 00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:22,680 Hurt's extent, the chest person, I'm not sure they show that. I 439 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,079 feel like there's a lot of things if you don't know they're gonna happen, 440 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,559 they don't tip their hat right away. Because even I like how when John 441 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,000 Hurt is like healthy, he is just cool for like five minutes and then 442 00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:36,920 like he just starts violently throwing up. It's not like I feel like they 443 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:38,200 sometimes do that in the New Rail movies, like are you good, and 444 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,720 it's like yeah, I'm fine, Like okay, this guy's fucked up, 445 00:27:41,759 --> 00:27:44,720 you know, like something's wrong with them. But John Hurt he's like like, 446 00:27:44,839 --> 00:27:47,119 oh no, it's all good, seems like it's fine, and he's 447 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,400 eating and they jumping all the food and taste that bad and then his cough 448 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,279 turns into like an all thing, and same thing with Ash, like that 449 00:27:52,319 --> 00:27:56,880 reveal doesn't come till the near the end of the third act. And I 450 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:02,400 like it in a way where he's a questionable character, but it's not to 451 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:03,759 me in that way where it's so evil. It's just that, hey, 452 00:28:03,799 --> 00:28:07,039 he's the new Like he's not the crew, right they talk about there's this 453 00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,200 line where they had someone there with for the last six months and there's this 454 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:12,400 guy that's new, and it's like, well, that could be the reason, 455 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,000 right, they just don't like him. So I feel like multiple things 456 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,640 between the lead, lots of reveals, obviously, even the alien, which 457 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,359 I'm sure they must have shown even a glimpse of in the trailer back in 458 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:26,079 the day, because how could you not. But I feel like they do 459 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:29,359 a good job multiple times kind of bearing the lead on some stuff. So 460 00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:33,640 mm hmm, yeah, I mean, particularly with Ash. You know, 461 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,759 going to this with my foggy memory, I didn't even remember any of this 462 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,440 android stuff going on here or something. That just goes to show how like 463 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:41,559 I don't know, you know, even though I've seen this movie multiple times, 464 00:28:41,559 --> 00:28:44,400 I still like, forgot that that was a detail, and it was 465 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,359 still like, yeah, something's off about this guy. He's acting very interestingly, 466 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:48,160 but yeah, until the reveal happened, I was like, oh yeah, 467 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,920 I kind of forgot that was a thing that happens. Yeah, And 468 00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,599 like even if you are rewatching it and you know that he is an android, 469 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,039 you know he is the most sus member. They do a good job 470 00:28:59,079 --> 00:29:03,480 at hiding it because like he kind of just comes off of like the super 471 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,880 science type guy that just wants to fully understand and study it more so than 472 00:29:07,119 --> 00:29:11,759 than look after like the safety of the way that he's a very understated character 473 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:15,640 like fits that kind of yeah, absolutely, yeah, that type of character, 474 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,480 and they make him have like weird human ticks, like there's one no 475 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,119 camera, it's not it's not like I can never decide it's a combo, 476 00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:26,000 like he's cold or nervous, but he walks out alone like he does something 477 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:27,720 it's something like you wouldn't expect a robot to do, right, And they 478 00:29:27,839 --> 00:29:30,519 also get in that when we get to permetheus with David, where he's trying 479 00:29:30,559 --> 00:29:34,200 to learn to be humans, that's the point that they want them to mimic 480 00:29:34,319 --> 00:29:37,440 that, but it's not like David where the second you see him walk, 481 00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:41,440 okay, his arms aren't moving, like there's something like this guy is a 482 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,720 fully trained human. You know, you don't pick that, And even him 483 00:29:44,759 --> 00:29:48,720 being sus to me, it's not like I'll like, I'll see we jumped 484 00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:49,759 to that now. But I mean like when you're watching the movie and think, 485 00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:52,119 oh, this man must be like a robot or something, right, 486 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,000 it's just like he could because his plot could still be the exact same if 487 00:29:56,039 --> 00:29:59,880 you as a human that he wants to ensure that the alien is to get 488 00:30:00,079 --> 00:30:03,640 there right. And that's always something too that I feel, even this watch 489 00:30:03,799 --> 00:30:06,680 where I go, oh, that's dumb, like why they still hear? 490 00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:08,200 What are they doing here? But then I always forget right, that's like 491 00:30:08,359 --> 00:30:11,960 they're kind of set up right because I always go why the fuck would they 492 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,319 land here? The second you see eggs, so you're like, oh, 493 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,960 this is bad, right, But it's like that's the mission, and Ash 494 00:30:17,039 --> 00:30:18,680 is pushing the mission and pushing these things. That's what it's like, Even 495 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,480 little things where I go, ah, why is this happening? Okay, 496 00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:25,400 they explain it down the line. You know, it's all all makes it 497 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,240 worth the trip and even too, with obviously things being down the line kind 498 00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:33,680 of revealing the fact that they were set up. It's a lot of you 499 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,960 forfeit all of your income too, right if you don't go and respond to 500 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,640 this signal, And that's like, oh, that's kind of a big fuck 501 00:30:40,759 --> 00:30:44,039 me moment, right, So not good, No, that's wild. And 502 00:30:44,119 --> 00:30:49,680 like even when he's clashing with Ripley, I feel like, although he gets 503 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:55,559 smacked up and like is bleeding white, like okay, that's definitely not human. 504 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,559 It's kind of just so chaotic in that moment that you don't really have 505 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:02,079 time to really figure out what going on. Like if you if you don't 506 00:31:02,079 --> 00:31:03,480 know the twist, it's just like, Okay, he's got some goo on 507 00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:07,880 him. I don't know what's going on because because it's just action sort of 508 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,160 and like it's ramping up to the point that when he's grabbing onto Parker and 509 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,640 he's just got that robotic strength, like, Okay, this is weird, 510 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,559 but you still really don't know what's going on, and then he starts just 511 00:31:18,599 --> 00:31:21,720 tweaking out like crazy, and then it gets to the point he just gets 512 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:26,039 decapitated. And man, I watched this a couple of years ago with a 513 00:31:26,039 --> 00:31:30,640 buddy that had never seen it before, so out to Carson and I purposely 514 00:31:30,759 --> 00:31:33,640 like didn't react to any of those moments, and then when it came to 515 00:31:33,799 --> 00:31:37,640 just like the head decapitation, he was just like, holy fuck, like 516 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,799 like it just totally blew his mind. So I was envious of him, 517 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,279 like having that first time watch on a moment like that, because you can 518 00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:47,640 never really get that. I mean, Dylan, you said you kind of 519 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,079 forgot about it on this one, but no, I mean they like in 520 00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:55,599 this watch, the way that it comes across is that he has been infected 521 00:31:55,599 --> 00:31:56,839 and that's why he has all this weird goo coming out of him. That's 522 00:31:56,839 --> 00:32:00,720 why he's so strong. He's like, oh, that makes sense that aliens 523 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,880 inside of him is like super strength. So I think it like plays off 524 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,839 as like a I don't know, they especially set it up in that way 525 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,880 too, so it kind of surprises you twice almost, And there's no other 526 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:13,720 androids or like things in this movie to make you think that. And as 527 00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:16,039 you mentioned, like the tech in this world is so bulky that you wouldn't 528 00:32:16,039 --> 00:32:19,680 think that, Oh yeah, they have the tech to have like androids down 529 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,640 and that would fit within the Realm of possibility. Mm hmm. Yeah. 530 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:28,920 Should Am Holme, who like Swimmers, was in this. Yeah, it's 531 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:34,599 a fun role for him. It's a very roll And oh, I thought 532 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,920 you were like there's like I was gonna say something, but Kirklea looks like 533 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:45,680 he's gonna say something. I was just gonna say. He had one moment 534 00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:49,880 where he was closing the doors on Ripley at this point, Okay, you 535 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,079 know he's he's up to something shady. But as Ripley is trying to like 536 00:32:53,119 --> 00:32:59,160 move from door to door, he does this robotic thing with his facial expressions. 537 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,559 It's crazy where he's he's not moving like any muscles on his face, 538 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:08,319 but his eyes robotically like move to the side a little bit. It's just 539 00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,680 it's such a crazy and the shot is like really close up to his face. 540 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,920 He just does a great job at feeling like a robot at these times. 541 00:33:15,799 --> 00:33:19,759 In retrospect, of course, you don't know he's a robot before, 542 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,920 so well a little bit. I think it's the other way. In retrospect, 543 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:27,680 you know him like I get what you're saying, Like you said, 544 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:32,079 he was no no, uh yeah, And I really love his uh kind 545 00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:37,119 of like the finale scene. I love the best way they do where you 546 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:39,720 know, they got the the prop head and I think they're very smart to 547 00:33:39,759 --> 00:33:44,480 cover up with a bunch of gook and everything like that. And plus I 548 00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:46,000 kind of like buy into that because it's like the second he gets powered, 549 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,559 the head looks more lively. But I love how they do that and clearly 550 00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:51,839 you can see, okay, they like cut the table and they have him 551 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,480 pop up there. But I love that he gives the exposition. It's not 552 00:33:54,519 --> 00:33:58,880 a long scene. And I also love that you know they're all the term 553 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,079 off, oh can I say one word? And you think he's gonna kind 554 00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:06,599 of be like a little not not encouraging, but just maybe something like some 555 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,199 sort of helpfulness. And I just love the last lines again I'm not gonna 556 00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:12,440 tell you the odds and just kind of wish you my condolences. It's like, 557 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:16,079 what like that's where it shows like even this like this robot, like 558 00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:19,920 that's where it's good where okay, it appears to be human, but it 559 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,159 still has almost like human qualities, because why would even a robot feel the 560 00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:27,199 need to kind of give you a one last fu of like you know, 561 00:34:27,199 --> 00:34:29,280 I'm not gonna give your chances, but you're dead, you know, like 562 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,920 whatever whatever the calculations are, it doesn't really matter because you've no shot of 563 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:36,199 survival here, Like that's not needed, like him saying one last thing, 564 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,400 like you don't need to tell me this, but he just feels the knee. 565 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,639 And obviously him Singory had this back and forth, but as a robot, 566 00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:43,920 I feel like you would know, oh the reason we have this back 567 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,599 and forth because I'm going against her mission, but it's almost like he took 568 00:34:45,599 --> 00:34:49,159 it personally. So again, we get more in that when we get to 569 00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:52,840 Prometheus and David, but they're good out like kind of kind of mirrors of 570 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:57,719 each other throughout the years of these robots, like they are androids, but 571 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,000 much like a in a Blade Renner situation, they do kind of get some 572 00:35:01,039 --> 00:35:07,320 sort of human emotions or acquire something there that's not normal for most android depictions 573 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:15,280 we see in movies and shows. So and that sequence too, when Dallas 574 00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:21,199 is gone, Ripley has like basically the authority now to go speak to mother 575 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:24,800 and she's just like, Okay, I'm finally gonna get my answers here, 576 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,719 and she doesn't, well, she gets answers it's definitely not what she wants 577 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:32,639 to hear. And just like Sigourney, Sigourney's acting in that sequence when she's 578 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:37,119 just basically at her wits end and just breaking down, like emotionally, she's 579 00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:42,599 like basically tearing up right at Ash and angry at him, but just balancing 580 00:35:42,639 --> 00:35:46,000 all these these mixed emotions of really just realizing you're fucked and the reason you're 581 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:50,199 fucked is because people are just greedy and they wanted to send you on this 582 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:54,599 expendable mission to get this science experiment. It, Oh, it's so fantastic. 583 00:35:54,599 --> 00:35:59,599 And then you have Ash just being so blank like like just not reacting 584 00:35:59,639 --> 00:36:04,280 at all, just just pure evil essentially in his reaction to her. But 585 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,400 yeah, I just wanted to mention that since you were talking about that scene, 586 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:12,079 I love the look of the supercomputer sort of room, Travis. You're 587 00:36:12,159 --> 00:36:17,159 muted there, which is why big but muted weaver over here. But yeah, 588 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,960 the look of that supercomputer room is really fun. I love. I 589 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,840 love too that like they clearly don't have the tech lined up enough that like 590 00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:28,760 the computers that they're using for the acting have like actual screens on them so 591 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:30,440 that they can have the computer so it's always like the separate shot of like 592 00:36:30,519 --> 00:36:35,599 Zoom Games, and it looks like very goofy in a way that is very 593 00:36:35,679 --> 00:36:37,480 charming, concidering how old this movie is. I like, I like the 594 00:36:37,519 --> 00:36:42,000 way they did that. No, that's gonna say some about them being pure 595 00:36:42,039 --> 00:36:44,559 evil, you know, like anybody that's gonna try to kill you by just 596 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,559 rolling up a magazine and just shutting down your throat, Like not a good 597 00:36:47,599 --> 00:36:52,000 way to go, a really weird choice, but it seemed really effective. 598 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,440 I love it, and I know no other movie has used that. I 599 00:36:54,440 --> 00:37:00,400 don't I can't recall. I'm gonna off. Might be that's what you do 600 00:37:00,559 --> 00:37:04,639 when your movies way over budget and you're like, guys, what do we 601 00:37:04,639 --> 00:37:08,519 have for a weapon in Like, g just brought a magazine in that day, 602 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:12,719 Let's use that. The first time I saw him do it too, 603 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,000 I thought he was just gonna beat her down like with with like as a 604 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:19,960 baton or something exactly just right in the gullet. They're like, oh, 605 00:37:20,039 --> 00:37:23,000 we tore another alien costume and we don't have any props for that science gun 606 00:37:23,119 --> 00:37:28,239 well magazine, But yeah, I'm gonna be like Tarantino rip that all because 607 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:31,639 it's such it's such like a it's like a it's like it's unnervous. It's 608 00:37:31,639 --> 00:37:36,199 not what you think of right when you use something that's not used like like 609 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:37,639 you said, krikling, when they wrap up, you think, oh, 610 00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:39,199 it's gonna be for hitting. But to choke him and try kill it's just 611 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,480 like and I don't even know, like is it trying to kill him in 612 00:37:42,519 --> 00:37:45,239 a way where it's just to kill them or isn't a way where ash I 613 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,840 was successful could say like, oh, a face hugger thing like went down 614 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,199 the throat, because they've shown like go in and out, so that's what 615 00:37:52,199 --> 00:37:54,039 it's like. What was his Was it just a weapon or was he trying 616 00:37:54,039 --> 00:37:58,039 to already make an alby for himself. We'll never know because his head got 617 00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:01,320 fucking you know. It's one of those. But I I can't really picture 618 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,480 what it would be like to be stabbed, but I can picture that that 619 00:38:05,519 --> 00:38:10,079 would be very uncomfortable to have that magazine shoved down my throne absolutely, Plus 620 00:38:10,119 --> 00:38:14,239 potential paper cuts too, that'd be bad too. Oh god, yeah, 621 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:20,199 micro cuts on the tongue just can't just doing just gonna get a lot of 622 00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,199 saliva and damp and that's the paper gets wet, and that's right in that 623 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:28,679 moment, that's all be thinking about produced extra good. We'll we'll remember that 624 00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:36,679 when we get attacked. Just hold hold saliva first, Just what are you 625 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:42,239 doing? I'm just getting ready to fight? Yeah, you know, bro's 626 00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:46,199 this you and get some bis. You got some of the like you know, 627 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,079 like chewing spit, you got some of that or what is it not? 628 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,559 I think the shoeing spit. Let's say, let's talk about the the 629 00:38:55,599 --> 00:38:59,960 face huggers and the eggs and everything like that. Because Alien, obviously it's 630 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,119 in this one. I have some trivia about it. But the whole Alien 631 00:39:02,199 --> 00:39:10,039 franchise is very overtly and subtly sexual. There's lots of penetration. There's lots 632 00:39:10,039 --> 00:39:16,199 of aliens with holes and peculiar things that look like phallac symbols or look like 633 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:22,079 vaginas or asses, like they do not see aliens this way? Is that 634 00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:25,239 how you see them? Do you watch Prometheus? You don't remember the birthing 635 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:30,079 scene? Like all the things of those aliens are purposely they purposely made them 636 00:39:30,079 --> 00:39:32,119 look like I'll give you that, I'll give you Prometheus, but I don't 637 00:39:32,119 --> 00:39:37,000 know about the while, so that the whole thing with John hurt. The 638 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:42,039 script wrote this because they wanted this is their algory for like rape. Yes 639 00:39:42,119 --> 00:39:44,119 I've heard that. Yes, Okay, so I don't know what you're saying. 640 00:39:44,119 --> 00:39:45,880 You don't see. But when I see the alien though, like in 641 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:50,000 the Zeno in this movie, I don't feel like the mouth is like a 642 00:39:50,039 --> 00:39:57,039 phallic symbol. It usually it literally the mouth opens and that has another thing, 643 00:39:57,079 --> 00:39:59,840 you know, what's around the mouth too that they used for effects is 644 00:40:00,039 --> 00:40:04,519 condoms. They use condoms to make it have that ribbed look. So like 645 00:40:04,519 --> 00:40:07,000 to me, the fact that it has that mouth and it does like that 646 00:40:07,119 --> 00:40:09,559 stabbing motion later on the movie. It's like very evil Dead where you have 647 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:14,039 like one of the antennas going up the ladies, you know, other area 648 00:40:14,159 --> 00:40:17,039 like all these not all, but lots of these movies have a lot of 649 00:40:17,039 --> 00:40:20,679 those because I can't remember a VP, and I don't think they were thinking 650 00:40:20,679 --> 00:40:22,280 that far ahead with AVP, and like what does this mean for society? 651 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,719 And they're just like that's O them fucking fighting a lot of societal messages in 652 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:31,320 that movie. So, like all these movies are very big into like reproduction 653 00:40:31,679 --> 00:40:37,639 and fertilization and like and you know, sexual assault and stuff, and it's 654 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,920 and that's where they said, I'm splitting se my trivia. But they specifically 655 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:44,280 wanted to be a male because they want male viewers to, you know, 656 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,159 because they couldn't under it. They thought if they use a female, they 657 00:40:47,199 --> 00:40:50,519 couldn't make the males like feel like, oh my god, that this is 658 00:40:50,519 --> 00:40:52,679 happening. But that's why they want to use John Hurt and that's where they 659 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:57,360 have all that and it's I think that's what makes it to me more scary 660 00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,960 than Predator, because PREDI wants to kill you, may you take you the 661 00:41:00,119 --> 00:41:02,079 trophy, but you have this alien where you don't know if it wants to 662 00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:07,440 kill you or impregnant you just for like survival or for their scientific reasons, 663 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:12,039 like you never really know. And that to me is just like it's it's 664 00:41:12,119 --> 00:41:14,639 frightening. And I don't even know what they're gonna do. Like Fetti Alvarez, 665 00:41:14,639 --> 00:41:16,039 who did Evil Dead the new one, I don't even know he's gonna 666 00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:20,679 do with this one coming up. I think there's gonna be even in this 667 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,559 one. I think they like they really push the envelope and it's stuff that 668 00:41:23,599 --> 00:41:28,400 sticks with you obviously the chest Burster does. But and that's such a good 669 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,079 to me build up to that hour you're talking about the dinner sym but just 670 00:41:30,119 --> 00:41:34,480 even the actual scene of the shirt and then it comes out and has not 671 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,000 like that whole thing is good. But I I really as weird as it 672 00:41:37,039 --> 00:41:42,320 as to say I like that aspect of this genre because I think there's some 673 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,239 horror genre stuff that touched upon that, but not to the to the extend 674 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:50,119 that this franchise does it kind of over and over, right, So m 675 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:54,320 h, I think that's my favorite sequence of the movie, and it's kind 676 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:59,159 of an extended sequence, but just one like the planet. I just love 677 00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:04,719 the visual of that whole sequence when they're going through into that main chamber with 678 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,960 that dude on like the space jockey, yeah, the space jockey sort of 679 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:12,920 thing, and then just going down below into that like the egg room like 680 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,440 that, just the sense of scale that they were able to capture with those 681 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:21,079 two sequences, but more specifically like the egg sequence and when he just falls 682 00:42:21,119 --> 00:42:25,079 down a little bit and like nothing bad immediately happens, like when it first 683 00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:29,400 happens, but you know, the way they're just like building it up is 684 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,360 is just so effective there. But yeah, just like the the terror, 685 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:36,920 the horror, and then I think the worst part about is just like the 686 00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:39,920 unknowingness of when he's back in the medical bay and he just has that fucking 687 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:44,360 thing on him and he's like sweating and you just see his like Adam's apple 688 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,440 just move around like crazy, and like every once in a while, the 689 00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:52,280 tail whatever it is, just starts like constricting more and more of the neck. 690 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,400 Like that whole sequence is like, I know, just the claustrophobia of 691 00:42:55,440 --> 00:43:00,480 that specifically having that thing on your face and they're poking it and then the 692 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,960 sludge comes down and it's burning through. And I love most movies like they 693 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,880 would just had the sludge go through the floor and that would be that. 694 00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:08,920 But I love that in this movie that go down a floor. It's called 695 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,599 the sludge and it keeps going down, so they go down another floor. 696 00:43:12,679 --> 00:43:15,920 Like it's just once again adds to the scale of it in a funny way. 697 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,199 But yeah, that whole sequence is so well done. And I think 698 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,199 because of this simplicity of him being in the medical play with a thing on 699 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:27,840 his face, like the visuals for that hold up like one thousand percent and 700 00:43:27,880 --> 00:43:30,800 I think everything on the planet does too, Like that sequence looks amazing. 701 00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:32,559 Yeah, And so I think that was why I was really into that whole 702 00:43:32,559 --> 00:43:36,880 sequence is because I never had those moments where like, oh yeah, like 703 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,360 that doesn't look so good in the year twenty twenty four. Yeah, that 704 00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:44,280 sequence is so good. Even just like right after the face hugger gets him, 705 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,639 they just have like a wide shot of the ship and it's just like 706 00:43:46,719 --> 00:43:52,199 thirty seconds of just a ship and it's just like air and whatever wind going 707 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:55,440 on, and it's like kind of a little mass by darkness. It just 708 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,760 looks it looks so cool. So no, I agree with all that stuff 709 00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,440 that because it could if that stuff doesn't hit then it's like a long half 710 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:07,239 an hour of just them exploring this planet and you kind of a little numb 711 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:09,920 by it. But I agree all that stuff is great. And those eggs 712 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:14,440 man, god man, I got too close. You know, this thing 713 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:15,679 starts a movie. Shine a light right on it. You know, you 714 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,639 gotta you gotta take a couple steps back. And that's where I love too, 715 00:44:19,679 --> 00:44:22,960 Like it's through the helmet first, and it's like the helmet with glass 716 00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,239 and then the thing and then it's just like when you slowly parse apart but 717 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:30,480 h and like when he cuts the helmet off of him too, it's just 718 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,599 like, fuck, his face is destroyed and then you take this thing off 719 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:37,079 and it's just a creature on his face. Yeah, worst case scenario. 720 00:44:37,159 --> 00:44:40,199 Yeah, that's not how you That's not how I would want you to find 721 00:44:40,199 --> 00:44:44,679 me on on an alien planet. I don't and if I do, I'm 722 00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:46,679 leaving you, I weaver. I'm not bringing it in, you know, 723 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:51,760 Sorry, you had your time. I'll send a message back protocol. Yeah, 724 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,039 I'll just take a photo and I'll send that the change BG. Yeah, 725 00:44:53,039 --> 00:44:55,760 I understand, you know, like you didn't want this guy coming back 726 00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:00,519 with us on his face and then Taylor's the robot that overrides you. Absolutely 727 00:45:00,559 --> 00:45:05,920 let me fuck get that for you. You are if you're an android and 728 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:09,320 it's in your face code. Uh yeah, I don't really have much else 729 00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:14,400 to add, don't you nail it on the head. I feel like I 730 00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:20,079 feel like the fact that I saw AVP first and then went into Alien it 731 00:45:20,199 --> 00:45:23,199 like surprised me just seeing like the face huggers here and it's just like wow, 732 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:29,159 like I didn't realize how old this concept of the face huggers where I 733 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:32,480 guess I just assumed it was from those those movies. But yeah, no, 734 00:45:32,679 --> 00:45:37,159 just such a great, such a great idea for this alien creature. 735 00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:42,400 It's one thing to have a big monster that's ginormous and scary, but like 736 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,079 to have the whole life cycle. I guess it is like starting with the 737 00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:50,599 eggs and then the face hugger that comes out of it. That, yeah, 738 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:55,039 just fucking puts the creature right in. Yeah, it's a way to 739 00:45:55,079 --> 00:45:59,639 go, and just such a creepy design for the face hugger, like the 740 00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:04,239 long fingers that they have. It's something too. It's just so eerie where 741 00:46:04,280 --> 00:46:07,159 it's it's small enough you feel like it's not super intimidating, but just the 742 00:46:07,199 --> 00:46:16,440 way that it like wreathes around Cane's neck. Yeah, it's squirmish. It's 743 00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:23,360 funny the part when like like they dangle it above Ripley's shoulder and she like 744 00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:27,800 freaks out and then like falls to the ground. That part just looks so 745 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:31,559 funny because of how proppy it looks in that moment. Yeah, I wonder, 746 00:46:31,679 --> 00:46:35,440 like I wonder what that would look like as CGI, But it just 747 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:37,840 it was very goofy, of like you can just picture someone in the background 748 00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:40,880 like just throwing like a toy spider on her or something, and it just 749 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,360 looks like that. Yeah, the the design of the face hugger, the 750 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:51,960 eggs, the Zeno, it's all just it's so unique. And I feel 751 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,960 like if I had to relate one o their alien species to the Zeno, 752 00:46:54,079 --> 00:47:00,440 it would probably be the alien from species. I feel like it's very similar, 753 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,760 but I would definitely take this because I feel like that one's just really 754 00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,559 just wild and crazy. But I like these looks of the Zeno, and 755 00:47:08,559 --> 00:47:12,840 I feel like the applications too, well, this is such a simple design, 756 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:17,039 the applications that have been able to apply to so many other storylines and 757 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:22,880 concepts and ideas of just how the Zeno can really be expanded upon. It's 758 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:28,800 just so awesome And I can't wait to get into those other other projects where 759 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,679 we can talk more about that, because I think that there's there was some 760 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,719 controversial stuff too, I think, and I don't you probably have this in 761 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:38,000 your trivia, Travis. I apologize if I'm reaching too far ahead, but 762 00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:45,480 like the idea of egg morphing and some deleted scenes that we're involved with that 763 00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:46,320 do you have that in your notes, Travis, Oh, I don't have 764 00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:52,480 deleted scenes. So it's funny because the directors there's a director's cut that has 765 00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:57,679 so many other deleted scenes and stuff for that in this film. And one 766 00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:01,039 of the not I do to have is the original cut three hours hours all 767 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:07,199 the delited scenes cut that we get, he's like just over two hours or 768 00:48:07,199 --> 00:48:10,039 something. That is a lot of stuff sense. So yeah, there's you 769 00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:14,119 can tell from in this movie. Like again, you have the different stages, 770 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,000 and one of the stages was egg morphing. And so this is the 771 00:48:16,039 --> 00:48:20,480 thing where they didn't we'll talk about aliens when we get to aliens, but 772 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:22,760 that was where they brought in the queen. And at this point they didn't 773 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:24,199 even think about queens. So they're like, okay, where do these eggs 774 00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:29,199 come from? So the storyline was that, and they kind of hinted this 775 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,239 in the movie where people are no blood. I don't know if they killed 776 00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,079 the person there is he alive. They're taking the aliens, taking these people 777 00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:39,039 alive, and so the story is he takes them alive and he's turning them 778 00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:45,960 into eggs. And so they scrapped this, but they actually filmed the scene 779 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:50,000 of these people turning into eggs. But they scrapped this idea because they didn't 780 00:48:50,119 --> 00:48:52,880 like in retrospect, how it takes two humans for one alien, one for 781 00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:58,599 the impregnation and another human to like create the egg I guess to create the 782 00:48:58,639 --> 00:49:01,239 face hugger to impregnate a human. It just seemed kind of redundant, Ye 783 00:49:04,039 --> 00:49:06,320 to like it, just because I feel like that there'd be a lot more 784 00:49:06,519 --> 00:49:13,159 exposition to add going on. So oh absolutely, And it's it would be 785 00:49:13,199 --> 00:49:15,239 a lot, It would really be a lot like this. This is the 786 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:21,760 scene here, and like Ripley stumbles in and she finds uh Brett and why 787 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,920 am I drawing a blank on what the captain's name was? Dallas? Thank 788 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:28,480 you? Yeah, she stumbles in and they're like being cocooned, and Dallas 789 00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:30,480 is like kill me, kill me. Where is this on the ship? 790 00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,239 This is on the ship? Yeah, because the alien has made like a 791 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:40,960 hive and basically turning them into into eggs. Basically wow. And so they 792 00:49:42,039 --> 00:49:47,679 again they scrapped it, but it's it's a whole long sequence of it's crazy, 793 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:52,400 it's and it's really gross. Yeah, I kind of like the just 794 00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:59,000 quote unquote undetermined fates of of the members as they get taken out. I 795 00:49:59,039 --> 00:50:01,119 mean, you know that they're dead, but you don't know what their bodies 796 00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:04,400 look like where they are. For the most part, you do some of 797 00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,239 them across a couple of them. But yeah, I don't know that that's 798 00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,559 that's like totally different. That's that's some weird stuff, right. A lot 799 00:50:10,599 --> 00:50:15,760 of people are happy it wasn't used. They've toyed with the idea, where 800 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:20,400 like in other like Alien Isolation for example, that idea is toyed with, 801 00:50:20,519 --> 00:50:22,800 like, well, we're all these eggs. We'll talk about that. But 802 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,760 yeah, what are there? Is there any of the good gravy from the 803 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:32,519 other deleted scenes? I think there's an extended Lambert and Parker like confrontation with 804 00:50:32,599 --> 00:50:40,119 the alien with each other, like I think out of each other. Yea, 805 00:50:40,199 --> 00:50:45,039 yeah, I think there's other other I don't know if there's any other 806 00:50:45,079 --> 00:50:49,599 things with mother or Ash. There must be some stuff, but the only 807 00:50:49,639 --> 00:50:52,119 main thing like an hour, because there's probably a ton of stuff that's crazy. 808 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,760 Yeah, yeah, no, I'm happy with that. I'm happy just 809 00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:00,800 keep it with the Yeah, for a movie like this that's holding tension if 810 00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:05,039 you just start adding scenes here there. You really can cut that out pretty 811 00:51:05,079 --> 00:51:09,280 quick, you know. Have you this very round am question. Have you 812 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:16,119 guys seen Ridley Scott's first movie that he directed, The Dualists or the Dualists, 813 00:51:16,119 --> 00:51:22,360 I don't know what it's called. Actually no interesting fun to go back, 814 00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,280 I have not. I have not, but retro when I was when 815 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,400 I was looking around at some trivia and just seeing what people were talking about 816 00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,360 with this movie. Just seeing that, I guess he is like just directed 817 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,840 a bunch of commercials for a long time that was like what his career was, 818 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:40,199 and then did Dualists and then did this, which is a pretty interesting 819 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,840 career path. Like he made this like in his forties or something, right, 820 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,480 so kind of like it just a different career path that we think of 821 00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:52,199 for a lot of big directors. But it's cool. Nonetheless, Uh A 822 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:54,760 note I have on Caine. I always thought it was interesting how he's the 823 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:59,159 first to wake up and he's the first to die. I feel like that's 824 00:51:59,199 --> 00:52:05,519 a you see a little tie in there? Kids, Yeah, I like 825 00:52:05,559 --> 00:52:08,599 that. That's good. Is the cat is this mentioned? Is the cat 826 00:52:08,679 --> 00:52:15,360 caryogenically frozen? Or is the cat just got right? Because who's who's feeding 827 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:19,599 that thing. I believe the cat is frozen, but it's not a shot 828 00:52:19,679 --> 00:52:22,400 or anything, right, I didn't miss that. No, I don't remember 829 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,360 it in the beginning at all, waking up with everyone. It's just it's 830 00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:30,800 just there. Because one because that was something that I was just cruising around 831 00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:34,559 and Reddit and people were talking about all sorts of crazy theories and stuff, 832 00:52:34,599 --> 00:52:36,800 and one of them is that, like, I don't know, a cat 833 00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,400 on a ship like this would be a good idea to keep around to kill 834 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:44,920 any rats or other things like that, like they used to doing, like 835 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:46,159 pirate ships back in the day. And so it's like, I don't know, 836 00:52:46,159 --> 00:52:50,039 maybe the cat was just awake while they're all sleeping, just cruising around 837 00:52:50,039 --> 00:52:52,760 the ship taking out rats. But then you probably had need like a more 838 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:57,559 reliable food source or else this cat might just bite it, and who knows, 839 00:52:57,639 --> 00:53:00,800 I don't know how long they'd be crowding frozen in these periods, but 840 00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:05,280 interesting inclusion to have a cat in here. I could believe in this universe 841 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,960 you would have rats on a spaceship, but I would be very on a 842 00:53:08,039 --> 00:53:12,840 ship with rats. A spaceship with rats, that's not something you want. 843 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:15,960 But I mean with the rats in this, you know more if honestly true. 844 00:53:16,079 --> 00:53:20,880 Yeah, I think it fits, like pretty like this is not a 845 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:24,920 world where space travel is like a very clean above board kind of thing, 846 00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:30,159 right. This whole mission is like pretty sketchy and very grimy. Whenever we 847 00:53:30,199 --> 00:53:34,639 see shots of this ship from the outside, like it's not a sleek design 848 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,920 by any means. So that kind of thing of having vermin in there, 849 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:40,119 I'm sure it's like it makes sense. You know, rats they getting everything, 850 00:53:40,119 --> 00:53:44,719 they would probably sneak onto something like this when these people sending them on 851 00:53:44,800 --> 00:53:46,679 this mission don't even care if these people survive this mission. I don't think 852 00:53:46,679 --> 00:53:52,000 they'd care enough to make sure there aren't any you know, plague infested rodents 853 00:53:52,039 --> 00:53:54,320 on this thing either. So it kind of fits. But I don't know 854 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,920 if that was the intention of the cat or why else there is a cat 855 00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,599 on here. It's that's a pretty random inclusion, I would say. But 856 00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:07,000 great cat actor. Yeah, Cat was amazing actor. When oh my gosh, 857 00:54:07,039 --> 00:54:09,119 the other Chap what is his name? He was the second to die. 858 00:54:09,159 --> 00:54:14,639 He was Avengers Bratt's Yeah, he's an Avengers. Yeah, he's like, 859 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,840 that's that's him. Yeah, When Hulk falls through the roof when he's 860 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,039 like Brett's like approaching him or approaching Jonesy, and Jonesy's like backing up slowly 861 00:54:23,079 --> 00:54:30,199 and hissing because he knows right behind him. Apparently that was someone else was 862 00:54:30,199 --> 00:54:36,599 supposed to someone else was supposed to. Wait, it was bred in that 863 00:54:36,679 --> 00:54:39,880 moment, and then really just thought it was so much more interesting for the 864 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,760 the cat to be the only witness to his death, which I think is 865 00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,239 just these actors aren't such a great idea cat here? Yeah, No, 866 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,920 it's just so terrifying, like just seeing the cat's face and like us, 867 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:55,639 the viewers don't even see what's going on. You just death noises and fuck 868 00:54:55,719 --> 00:55:00,239 that cat. It's gonna be kept up at night. Now, what do 869 00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,679 you do if you are Bretton You're walking around looking for Jonesy, but then 870 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:07,480 you find the skin that it shed. Do you keep going or do you 871 00:55:07,519 --> 00:55:08,239 take this? Do you drop the skin? Do you take the skin? 872 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,599 Report it? What do you do? Some one's getting some action down here, 873 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:15,880 some snake skin. I maybe take the skin. I don't know. 874 00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,639 You gotta word it's acid. But I definitely don't keep going a lot of 875 00:55:17,639 --> 00:55:21,519 these people kept going. I couldn't, especially even like the fucking captain. 876 00:55:21,559 --> 00:55:24,320 I felt like they he was not listening to anything. This way, you're 877 00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:31,639 going the wrong way, Lambert is pretty much me when we're playing war Zone 878 00:55:31,679 --> 00:55:35,480 and like giving you directions the final circle, like go left, don't go 879 00:55:35,599 --> 00:55:38,039 right? Now, what are you doing? We won't Like, she's just 880 00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:45,480 not the person you want to be on the colms when it emails, don't 881 00:55:45,559 --> 00:55:52,880 go down. There's nothing to hear. Five second, you went the wrong 882 00:55:52,920 --> 00:56:01,119 way, listen to me, Like, I feel so bad for him because 883 00:56:01,119 --> 00:56:04,679 not only it's like he had to be the most scared. Not only is 884 00:56:04,679 --> 00:56:07,199 it scared because his thing's coming, just like it's gaty on you. Oh 885 00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,199 it's so fucking close. Man, it's freething on it. It should be 886 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:14,039 there now. God, I'm out here and you're there. Yeah, I 887 00:56:14,079 --> 00:56:15,840 feel bad for him. And like I said, horre terrifying shot, and 888 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:20,079 that shot stuck with me the most out of all those, those are the 889 00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:23,079 fucking and when I hope, Uh, what does that condition people have when 890 00:56:23,079 --> 00:56:25,920 they can't with the shrobe, lights and stuff? Because I feel like you 891 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:30,480 could not watch that. Yeah, I watched this movie lights Off, fuck 892 00:56:30,599 --> 00:56:35,239 man, that lasts little bit. My whole room was lit because like it 893 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,599 was just like and it goes on for a long time. I think it's 894 00:56:37,639 --> 00:56:42,079 good for the scene and I think it builds some tension because like you've seen 895 00:56:42,119 --> 00:56:45,039 like the classic like you know, light black, light, black and stuff. 896 00:56:45,079 --> 00:56:47,400 Sometimes it's not the darkness that's just always going off. So I think 897 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:52,000 it works, but it is it is bright. They had that camera right 898 00:56:52,079 --> 00:56:54,880 on that light, so no, it's it's so crazy because that's like the 899 00:56:54,920 --> 00:57:00,559 first time we actually see the face of the Zeno morph and s it was 900 00:57:00,559 --> 00:57:07,119 the little seedling popping out of cane And I just love that whole the whole 901 00:57:07,159 --> 00:57:10,239 concept of they see this thing. It's probably the size of a rat, 902 00:57:10,519 --> 00:57:15,440 right, like a proper New York rat, got some fucking birth and a 903 00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:19,679 proper frame on it. So so they get their cattle prod. Okay, 904 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,119 yeah, let's go out there and just zap this thing. Then fast forward 905 00:57:23,159 --> 00:57:29,599 to Dallas in the vents with Lambert on the mic just the wrong way, 906 00:57:29,840 --> 00:57:34,079 turns around and like how big is unimorphs like seven feet tall like like something 907 00:57:34,079 --> 00:57:38,440 like it's the huge Oh that's and like it's all black now, like it 908 00:57:38,519 --> 00:57:43,760 just looks like a completely different creature. And the speed at which it just 909 00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:49,039 gets that size is it's terrifying. Metal teeth or silver teeth, whatever it's 910 00:57:49,079 --> 00:57:53,920 going to be. And then con mouth out of the mouth, you know, 911 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:59,639 like the second you see it, like disjaw and it has like another 912 00:57:59,679 --> 00:58:01,159 mouth, Like what do you do with that? Like grab it, grab 913 00:58:01,199 --> 00:58:06,199 the phallic right, so the predator does. We'll talk about that later. 914 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:12,079 We can't all be the predator though, super strength, superspeed weapons. I'm 915 00:58:12,119 --> 00:58:21,119 just a man who hopefully has better calms. You went the wrong get out 916 00:58:21,159 --> 00:58:23,679 of there, like not even like give it a direction. It's just freaking 917 00:58:23,719 --> 00:58:28,400 out on the She's just it's right there, it's gaining on you. It's 918 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,360 like I don't need to like call say something else. The next time we 919 00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:34,559 play caught, I'm gonna do that when I see guys like, oh, 920 00:58:34,559 --> 00:58:44,039 he's right there, he's gonna get yeah, damn alright. P Lambert is 921 00:58:44,039 --> 00:58:49,119 the one character I feel like doesn't really get anything, like at all your 922 00:58:49,199 --> 00:58:51,719 deaths just like I know something we're off scream but it's just so off, 923 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,199 like it's just the tentacle looks like it's going up there and then it's screaming. 924 00:58:54,719 --> 00:58:57,960 That's just it, you know, it's just kind of a you know, 925 00:58:58,639 --> 00:59:02,360 I mean like she's the care that's just mentally broken from the fear of 926 00:59:02,679 --> 00:59:06,440 what the alien's bringing. So I guess that is something that she's bringing to 927 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,400 the table. She is the one that suggests just abandoning ship, right, 928 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:16,119 trying their odds in the in the escape pod, which that is what Ripley 929 00:59:16,199 --> 00:59:21,760 ends up doing. But yeah, that's that's like her, I guess, 930 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:25,639 Brett, those would be like the two that I just are the lesser characters, 931 00:59:27,239 --> 00:59:30,000 Like they have purpose, I guess, but everyone else just feels a 932 00:59:30,039 --> 00:59:34,519 lot more they need for them to kill off too at the end, which 933 00:59:34,519 --> 00:59:37,159 I always forget how long many of them make it to the end, you 934 00:59:37,199 --> 00:59:39,079 know, Like it's not like like I think some of the other ANI movies 935 00:59:39,079 --> 00:59:43,360 are very one by one by one that it's kind of like one and then 936 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,480 a long break and then another one. It's not a consistent once attack and 937 00:59:45,519 --> 00:59:49,519 then there's like four people at the finale, like the only Ripley is the 938 00:59:49,519 --> 00:59:52,360 one that makes it. But I kind of like that, especially because again 939 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,880 we talked about that she's more become the main character but she's not the exact 940 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,960 main characters. They think, oh, maybe a couple of people could make 941 00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:00,239 it with her, maybe she is gonna die, But no, she just 942 01:00:00,280 --> 01:00:05,320 makes it that ship alone. And I just wanted to pop up and get 943 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:09,320 the exact dialogue here of Lambert. Like Lambert says, move, get out 944 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:13,039 of there. Maybe I'm gonna put this on like super slow speed. Here, 945 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,519 he's gonna do subtitles and super slow speed. Move, get out of 946 01:00:16,559 --> 01:00:22,159 there, moving towards you. Move, So he has no idea where to 947 01:00:22,199 --> 01:00:28,280 move. Tell us move, tell us anywhere, Yeah, move, tell 948 01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:30,559 us get out. So he thinks he's got it. He thinks he said 949 01:00:30,599 --> 01:00:38,000 no, no, not Why don't you tell him straight ahead of you, 950 01:00:38,079 --> 01:00:45,320 not behind you? And something and that and the the reach Oh no you 951 01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:49,320 waste breathless. Oh no, get out of there, like like don't like 952 01:00:49,639 --> 01:00:52,079 he literally went to it. She could have just said it would take a 953 01:00:52,199 --> 01:00:54,039 right, and then he takes the left. She says, you go the 954 01:00:54,079 --> 01:00:58,119 wrong way. She just said move and he went to be fair. I 955 01:00:58,119 --> 01:01:00,880 feel like the GPS system, the head set up, it was pretty like 956 01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:07,599 he's a dot on a map. What environment is supposed to really help a 957 01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:12,559 lot you're still blaming Lambert. If I'm Dallas, I'm I'm haunting her for 958 01:01:12,599 --> 01:01:15,960 the rest of my days. When you wake up from your egg shell thing 959 01:01:15,039 --> 01:01:24,000 that kill me, Kill Lambert, don't kill it. Well on the note 960 01:01:24,039 --> 01:01:29,440 of Lambert too, So, when Parker was loading up the cansters had the 961 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,880 flame thrower, turns and sees the zeno in front of Lambert. He's basically 962 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,800 Lambert move and she said, no, no, I can't. I can't. 963 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,679 If she just tucked and rolled, he could have fucking doused that zeno 964 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:43,039 in flames, but she just she stood there, and so he tried to 965 01:01:43,079 --> 01:01:46,039 be the hero. He he went to tackle it. Oh yeah, he 966 01:01:46,119 --> 01:01:51,280 went to tackle it and he ended up getting killed, right, So she 967 01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:58,159 caused him to die. She caused a couple tackling that thing, Taylor, 968 01:01:58,239 --> 01:02:02,159 you football tackling them, George God, No, you can see that tail 969 01:02:02,239 --> 01:02:06,760 swinging around. Yeah, you just do like a Mario Bowser situation. You 970 01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,719 just grab that tail and you just start fucking going. And yeah, pretty 971 01:02:09,719 --> 01:02:15,840 sure that's what you take about and conquer. No. I like that. 972 01:02:15,920 --> 01:02:22,719 They set up kind of little many quote unquote factions within the crew in terms 973 01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:27,000 of I don't know just having these different moments when characters have different ideas of 974 01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,199 how these things should be resolved, whether that's like even going to the planet 975 01:02:30,239 --> 01:02:35,000 in the first place, or letting people in, or what they do with 976 01:02:35,199 --> 01:02:38,800 Caine and others once he's back, and then just the decision making from there 977 01:02:38,840 --> 01:02:42,239 on out. So I think they do a good job of like kind of 978 01:02:42,239 --> 01:02:45,239 pairing characters off in those ways. And yeah, it adds a little tension 979 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:49,679 between the crew because, as you mentioned, like yeah, like there's a 980 01:02:49,679 --> 01:02:53,119 half an hour of this move before there's really any alien ish stuff going on. 981 01:02:53,159 --> 01:02:57,119 They're just hanging out and you're starting to see like the roots of that. 982 01:02:57,239 --> 01:02:59,840 So they did a good job with the cast of it. And like 983 01:03:00,119 --> 01:03:01,559 when I'm looking at on IMDb, it's like, yeah, it's a pretty 984 01:03:02,119 --> 01:03:06,679 like what is it seven people in this movie, And like I feel like, 985 01:03:06,719 --> 01:03:09,159 yeah, they they there's there'sn't anyone that's like wasted by any means. 986 01:03:09,159 --> 01:03:13,519 Some of them more more like stereotypical characters than others, but you know they 987 01:03:13,559 --> 01:03:19,360 all get their quote unquote time to shine. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 988 01:03:19,360 --> 01:03:22,639 one hundred percent. I agree with you there. I've I also just love 989 01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:29,000 the like the banter or complaining that the characters like Parker and Brett have when 990 01:03:29,039 --> 01:03:30,880 they're just they just feel like they're so ripped off, like they're doing all 991 01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:35,159 this work, they're getting this shit back together, yeah, and they're they're 992 01:03:35,239 --> 01:03:39,840 just wanting to talk about shares or when they're just it's funny, they're just 993 01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:45,599 like disgruntled employees. And then when when everything's going shit, Andy's like, 994 01:03:45,079 --> 01:03:47,000 do what you can, I'm coming down there. They're like, what the 995 01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,719 fuck is she gonna come down here? Like, better stay the fuck out 996 01:03:50,719 --> 01:03:53,079 of my way. Like they're it's just like complained about your manager type of 997 01:03:53,559 --> 01:03:58,840 mindset. It just seems so human. I think like in those moments of 998 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:02,039 those characters, they're way off in distant world's galaxies, but there they still 999 01:04:02,039 --> 01:04:08,519 have these very earth like problems dealing with their manager. And even just when 1000 01:04:09,679 --> 01:04:14,360 like fast forward later on when it's just Parker, I guess it's after Dallas 1001 01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:16,800 dies, so Parker, Lambert and Ripley and and they're just like weighing in 1002 01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:21,239 their options. Ripley suggests sticking to Dallas's plan, and Parker's so fired up. 1003 01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,880 He's like got the flamethrower ready to go. He's like I'm fucking killing 1004 01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,440 that thing. Lambert's just freaking out. She wants to run for the for 1005 01:04:28,519 --> 01:04:31,639 the woods, and it's just so chaotic because there is a lot of fear 1006 01:04:31,679 --> 01:04:38,000 in all of them and just they they don't really have a time to breathe 1007 01:04:38,079 --> 01:04:40,360 and like, hey, let's just weigh on our options, go through a 1008 01:04:40,400 --> 01:04:44,000 pros and cons list, Like Parker wants blood, Lambert wants to flee, 1009 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:46,679 and Ripley wants to try and like stay headstrong, even though you can tell 1010 01:04:46,679 --> 01:04:53,000 that she's kind of, you know, having that internal ish like she's starting 1011 01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:56,719 to doubt everything because it's just fucking xenomorph has taking out everyone around them. 1012 01:04:56,719 --> 01:04:59,800 So I I, yeah, I like that you mentioned that. I just 1013 01:05:00,079 --> 01:05:02,440 of how it's not just one scene that they have a lot of time to 1014 01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,719 dialogue, like there is there's only seven of them, but they have a 1015 01:05:05,719 --> 01:05:11,960 lot of time to dialogue in and amongst themselves. So yeah, that scene 1016 01:05:12,039 --> 01:05:16,039 you mentioned there where Brett and Parker were just talking talking shop and they're down 1017 01:05:16,039 --> 01:05:19,360 below fixings and Ripley was going down there, I really like that scene in 1018 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:24,679 Parker and Brett are my favorite combo here together. And so when Ripley's down 1019 01:05:24,679 --> 01:05:28,480 there and the seam is blasting out of the event and they can't hear what 1020 01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:31,639 she's saying anymore, and she leaves, and then Parker shuts the valve up 1021 01:05:31,679 --> 01:05:35,599 and turns off the steam. And then I can't remember how what like Cussy 1022 01:05:35,679 --> 01:05:38,920 says, but I think he's like, son of a bitch, and Brett's 1023 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,079 like what And he turns a thing back on and it's steaming because it's just 1024 01:05:42,119 --> 01:05:44,719 not supposed to be doing that, but like he I feel like he was 1025 01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,079 using it just to get Ripley to leave. Yeah, there's just those little 1026 01:05:47,119 --> 01:05:55,159 dynamics that I really I appreciate. Random thing too, and this would only 1027 01:05:55,199 --> 01:06:00,199 happen I think in this movie releasing in the seventies, is that people are 1028 01:06:00,239 --> 01:06:02,239 just like smoking cigarettes on this ship. Oh yeah, because if you know, 1029 01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,880 like on a ship and it's like a pretty big ship, but it's 1030 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:09,559 like you got to pump oxygen into that thing for it to work, and 1031 01:06:09,599 --> 01:06:14,079 you're gonna like burn presses oxygen by putting like cigarettes smoke into the air. 1032 01:06:14,119 --> 01:06:17,079 That's just like makes no sense. But I love that that made sense for 1033 01:06:17,159 --> 01:06:18,880 them to do for a movie like this. But I think once again, 1034 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:23,239 it also kind of establishes that, like, this is not clean, sleek 1035 01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:27,199 space travel that we would expect from a lot of other franchises. It's just 1036 01:06:27,239 --> 01:06:30,360 like this is dirty. This is down and dirty and grimy and nasty, 1037 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,960 and that's it's kind of sticking to the theme in that way. So I 1038 01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:39,360 don't know, I can't recall if any other alien movies things taking place on 1039 01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:43,119 ship. I doubt any other ones have people smoking on board. But I 1040 01:06:43,159 --> 01:06:45,000 feel like just I don't know when did when did smoke? When did people 1041 01:06:45,159 --> 01:06:49,079 learn that smoking kills you and that they shouldn't do it? Like was that 1042 01:06:49,119 --> 01:06:54,159 in the eighties? I think the early eighties. I feel like eighties is 1043 01:06:54,159 --> 01:06:57,119 when it started to happen. But then I still feel like there was a 1044 01:06:57,159 --> 01:07:00,920 lot of like WHOA took a long time for it to yeah, And I 1045 01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:02,480 think even when it happens, well, probably doesn't kill you. It's probably 1046 01:07:02,519 --> 01:07:04,239 just what they're saying. And then I think a bunch of people in the 1047 01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:08,679 nineties early two thousand started dying from that, and like, yeah, it 1048 01:07:09,079 --> 01:07:11,960 could you could smoke on an airplane in like the eighties, can you oh 1049 01:07:12,039 --> 01:07:16,000 yeah, you spoke? Stroke anywhere? Really? Like theaters whatever, like 1050 01:07:16,039 --> 01:07:19,519 it's just like schools. Yeah, go watch Man, Go watch mad Man. 1051 01:07:19,519 --> 01:07:24,360 They're smoking all the time in there. So what's that like sixties seventies 1052 01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:29,679 Yeah, I think so yeah, or mad Man? Yeah, mad Man 1053 01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:41,000 is the sixty one with Goourney Weaver. Anything else particular. I mean the 1054 01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:45,039 score, it's fantastic. Is so fucking good. Jared Goldsmith, right, 1055 01:07:45,079 --> 01:07:46,760 one of the all time great composers. And I feel like I don't actually 1056 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,639 know a lot of his movies, to be honest, but this is definitely 1057 01:07:49,679 --> 01:07:53,400 one of them. We just recently shout him out. You should go if 1058 01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:56,639 you want to rewatch the Original Plan the Apes his score and that is just 1059 01:07:56,679 --> 01:07:59,960 fucking so good. And everybody even the last New Plan, the Apes, 1060 01:08:00,239 --> 01:08:04,199 the Reeves trilogy, like Geino, they're always like riffing off like things he 1061 01:08:04,239 --> 01:08:08,119 does and everything. But yeah, Goldsmith has not talked about enough, but 1062 01:08:08,199 --> 01:08:14,719 he's he's he's fantastic. I was just looking at his IMDb has got over 1063 01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:18,239 three hundred credits. Isn't that insane? Yeah, he's one of the best. 1064 01:08:18,399 --> 01:08:20,199 But do you think it talked about enough? Because he don't. He 1065 01:08:20,239 --> 01:08:25,800 has like the big themes, like like a Han's or like a John Williams 1066 01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:29,439 or something like that. But I think he consistently just does things that are 1067 01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:33,319 just just they go very well with the project. So I feel like the 1068 01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:39,760 score carries the early stages. Yeah, I don't say that, you know, 1069 01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:44,560 just out there, remember the first just walking and it's just like if 1070 01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,319 this score sucks, I didn't think about that. Yeah, this movie is 1071 01:08:46,359 --> 01:08:50,560 nothing from the beginning because it's just them in the desert and nothing's happening when 1072 01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:54,720 they're when they're on the planet for the first time, like exploring, and 1073 01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:58,079 it's just like a snowstorm pitch black, but you and like the wind, 1074 01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:03,560 but then you just have that like it's like a miasthma of unsettlingness that the 1075 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:08,520 score brings in those moments and ugh, yeah, it's so good. Does 1076 01:09:08,520 --> 01:09:13,000 he do any of the other Alien movies scores? I don't know. I 1077 01:09:13,079 --> 01:09:15,359 don't. I don't think any of the new newer ones. I don't know. 1078 01:09:15,399 --> 01:09:18,359 Maybe he could have been Aliens too, but with that being Cameron, 1079 01:09:18,399 --> 01:09:21,399 that could have been someone else as well. So because I don't think he 1080 01:09:21,439 --> 01:09:29,479 did any of the other apes ones if I recall, but he might even 1081 01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:38,640 Yeah, I'm trying to quickly do a search here. My god, he's 1082 01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:45,279 just done so many things that it's hard to find anything anything else from YouTube. 1083 01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:54,479 Oh my dig for Jerry uh the again with alien romulus. I think 1084 01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:58,199 the I mentioned this when we're doing the trailer examination a while ago, that 1085 01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:02,319 there's a quick snippet shot of some people pushing this what looks like charred remains, 1086 01:10:02,319 --> 01:10:06,960 and people are speculating that that is actually the Big chap or Caine's Sun's 1087 01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:14,000 remains from space, which I feel like there's maybe something there if the story 1088 01:10:14,119 --> 01:10:16,159 is, hey, they sent a ship and they went to the with a 1089 01:10:16,199 --> 01:10:20,560 nostromo was destroyed, and they find somehow these were floating remains of a charred 1090 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:24,119 zeno in space or something like that, and then they bring it into the 1091 01:10:24,159 --> 01:10:29,000 station or something. I don't know, But there's also cure like maybe this 1092 01:10:29,039 --> 01:10:31,439 is m might fit in better with aliens when we get to that. But 1093 01:10:31,479 --> 01:10:34,159 I'll just put it out there now where you have to wonder. Okay, 1094 01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:39,319 if the ship had a crew member swapped the science officer swapped out for ash, 1095 01:10:40,119 --> 01:10:43,039 you have the pre existing standing orders where if there's a stress signal, 1096 01:10:43,039 --> 01:10:45,960 you have to respond to it, otherwise you fourfoit your pays that's already implemented. 1097 01:10:46,199 --> 01:10:51,960 But the company had uploaded data to mother and had I want to say, 1098 01:10:53,159 --> 01:10:58,640 uploaded some kind of pre existing notion into ash of what to expect. 1099 01:10:59,680 --> 01:11:03,279 So the ship was also happening to go along this trajectory of where this signal 1100 01:11:03,560 --> 01:11:09,479 was. And I feel like people's kind of speculation is that it wasn't this 1101 01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:14,640 the whole company that was aware of this. Otherwise you wouldn't have aliens take 1102 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:16,960 place the way it does. You would have had a company send another ship 1103 01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:20,600 out there right away to respond to this signal. So people think is maybe 1104 01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:26,600 one guy at the company took it upon themselves to make this change and try 1105 01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,920 to get the credit. Could be one higher up guy. When they found 1106 01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:31,199 out the signals or stop stop sending from the stromo and the ship got self 1107 01:11:31,199 --> 01:11:33,560 destructed, they just kind of like swept it on the rug, like, 1108 01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:38,039 oh man, I kind of I might have fucked up. I'm just gonna 1109 01:11:38,079 --> 01:11:42,920 let this kind of fizzle out, and that's that. But it's it's just 1110 01:11:43,039 --> 01:11:46,479 kind of very open ended. Who is really responsible for sending the ship there? 1111 01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:50,640 Changing the science officer and I don't ever need those answers, but I 1112 01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:55,920 liked how it's it's really kind of shady. They don't ever really dive into 1113 01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:59,279 Whaleen Uteni Corporation at all. It's just the company in this movie. And 1114 01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:02,840 I like how things kind of get expanded upon as the universe continues in movies. 1115 01:12:03,199 --> 01:12:08,560 So is that something that's not really answered in later movies more than that? 1116 01:12:09,079 --> 01:12:13,279 No, I mean in Aliens, you'll see like they briefly discuss it, 1117 01:12:13,319 --> 01:12:15,319 but they don't ever give a definitive answer to it. It's always a 1118 01:12:15,359 --> 01:12:18,880 mystery. Yeah, And same thing like in Prometheus, Like they get more 1119 01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:23,239 on the corporation, but not like the specific mission, right, But I 1120 01:12:23,239 --> 01:12:26,119 think for me they just give enough that Okay, it's just a shady company 1121 01:12:26,159 --> 01:12:30,520 that wants weapons, wants power and stuff. So but we meet Whalen in 1122 01:12:31,199 --> 01:12:35,520 E v P, don't we We do, and not only a few times 1123 01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:41,239 in the franchise. Really, Okay, that's the only one I remembering for 1124 01:12:41,279 --> 01:12:51,119 a treat with this fucking blowtorch. I don't remember those movies good enough. 1125 01:12:51,199 --> 01:12:56,319 So I'm excited. Yeah, that's gonna be good. I've always seen there 1126 01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:59,760 is an extended version of that, and I hope you guys watch it. 1127 01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:04,319 The see it's it's some juicy ship and which there is, and Aliens is. 1128 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:09,640 There's a director's cut extended version with some really I personally love the extended 1129 01:13:09,640 --> 01:13:14,199 scenes that they added in there. I highly recommend you guys for Aliens the 1130 01:13:14,199 --> 01:13:19,039 next one, extended scenes will do. Yeah, you write that down nice. 1131 01:13:20,479 --> 01:13:23,840 And Jerry gold Smith didn't do any of the other Aliens, So there 1132 01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:26,199 you go, just the first one. Yeah, I saw he did a 1133 01:13:26,199 --> 01:13:30,560 movie called Alien Nation, but yeah, I believe that's in the same series 1134 01:13:30,600 --> 01:13:38,359 as Cannon. For this movie, like just in reverse, he just yeah, 1135 01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:42,960 yeah, yeah, one. So I talked about this well, I 1136 01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,159 didn't mention the exact moment, but yeah, I think when the alien finally 1137 01:13:45,159 --> 01:13:51,319 gets blasted out into space looks really goofy, really silly. It's clearly a 1138 01:13:51,319 --> 01:13:57,199 man in the suit. It doesn't have like the dimensions right, it's just 1139 01:13:57,239 --> 01:14:00,800 way off. It's kind of silly. But I really like the whole sequence 1140 01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:04,439 leading up to that, with the self destruct sequence and the desperation of just 1141 01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:08,880 like the alien is really not even honor for most of it. She's just 1142 01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:11,920 like walking around the station. There's a lot of steam. She's going through 1143 01:14:12,119 --> 01:14:17,239 the place all over again trying to activate or deactivate the self destruct just misses 1144 01:14:17,279 --> 01:14:19,760 that timer that has to make it all the way back. And I think 1145 01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:25,760 that sequence is really fun. And then I like the kind of bliss that 1146 01:14:25,840 --> 01:14:29,079 she has when she finally gets there and can kind of relax. But then 1147 01:14:29,119 --> 01:14:31,640 the aliens just like creepily like on a shelf, kind of like just huddled 1148 01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:35,640 up in a weird way. So yeah, I think that whole sequence is 1149 01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:41,359 like a good final, really intense moment that is just like, I don't 1150 01:14:41,359 --> 01:14:44,439 know, I feel like movies don't can't have like a simple scene like that 1151 01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:46,119 anymore. They need really got to ham it up, whether it's like the 1152 01:14:46,159 --> 01:14:49,640 score or just like having all these jump scares or crazy things happening. But 1153 01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:55,479 it's just like her running around and it is intense even if there's really nothing 1154 01:14:55,560 --> 01:15:00,560 actually happening until the later sequence when that's kind of resolved. Stuff like when 1155 01:15:00,560 --> 01:15:03,520 the face hugger when it first gets oh god, what my blanket of his 1156 01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:08,560 name? We've been here for Yeah, Like it's not like a big loud 1157 01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,199 jump scare. It's just the sounds like it's loud, but it's not like 1158 01:15:11,199 --> 01:15:14,560 a and it's just like, Okay, what was that? But no, 1159 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:18,479 I like the I love her having to she's in her underwear and like sneak 1160 01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:23,159 into the astronaut suit, Like how slow does that? I love that they 1161 01:15:23,199 --> 01:15:26,039 got this because obviously all the shots are iconic. I love that they got 1162 01:15:26,039 --> 01:15:29,319 this suit that is like quite bigger than her, so it looks like she's 1163 01:15:29,680 --> 01:15:31,239 very much just like very loose in it, and just even the head thing, 1164 01:15:31,279 --> 01:15:35,399 it looks so much bigger. But no, I enjoyed that the alien 1165 01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:40,680 had a tough day. And yeah, in the new four K transfer coming 1166 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:45,520 up there, putting her her her hair around her underwear back in there. 1167 01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,760 If you've not it's Disney Plus, it's just she's just clean, smoothing. 1168 01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:53,800 And in the original Aliens and she had in her underwear, uh, you 1169 01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:57,159 know, there's some hair going on, but they they decided to take that 1170 01:15:57,239 --> 01:16:00,880 out in this new generation. But now the next tra answer they're putting it 1171 01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:09,800 back in. So there's a lot of because now whenever I see it on 1172 01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:12,760 Disney Plus, it's just like c G. I like clean, like there's 1173 01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:16,960 not a hair follicule. Seem pretty strange. Honestly, I'm like seventies. 1174 01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:24,000 Yeah, that's what you're going and I'm like, oh, but frame hold 1175 01:16:24,039 --> 01:16:28,319 on like the secrets and you know they watching with your dad, Like Dad, 1176 01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:34,399 He's like, no, seventies doesn't make sense. I remember that aliens 1177 01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:36,920 just had a tough days quip and no, I really like, I agree 1178 01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:42,000 with you. There's some seleniness with that, But I do like that wakes 1179 01:16:42,039 --> 01:16:43,920 up, tries to get her, gets her out of the door, still 1180 01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:45,239 touch the gun, gets rid of the gun attached thing. I like that. 1181 01:16:45,279 --> 01:16:48,720 It's still like these steps of like you just can't get rid of this 1182 01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,520 thing. And I'm not sure if that's been something that's been announced or if 1183 01:16:51,560 --> 01:16:57,600 it's a rumor. I think there's been rumors that the alien and Romulus is 1184 01:16:57,640 --> 01:17:01,560 this alien that like is from the ship and it flies and it hits like 1185 01:17:01,680 --> 01:17:04,880 that next ship. I don't don't quote me there, but I think or 1186 01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:08,279 maybe this is sand theories. I don't know, but I'm gonna quote you 1187 01:17:08,319 --> 01:17:11,359 on that. Those the those what the editor was thinking. He's like, 1188 01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,399 fuck, I just can't get rid of this thing. Trying to edit out 1189 01:17:14,399 --> 01:17:18,279 the bush. Yeah, yeah, exactly keeps growing like the way that you 1190 01:17:18,319 --> 01:17:21,239 set that up. I'm just picturing like, fuck is it just everywhere is 1191 01:17:21,279 --> 01:17:25,039 it coming out of a little bit, it's a hole, it's like a 1192 01:17:25,319 --> 01:17:28,840 healthy amount or or whatnot. But it's just a screenshot for you, Kirklan. 1193 01:17:29,359 --> 01:17:30,840 I'm gonna have to google it on my own Google. It's on there 1194 01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:33,600 and stuff. You know. I just I thought, I'm not bringing up 1195 01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:38,720 just because I talk about pubic area, just like recently was announced that they're 1196 01:17:38,760 --> 01:17:42,000 putting like that transfer has that going back on, so I thought, oh, 1197 01:17:42,159 --> 01:17:46,960 good for the bush, you know the Bush. I would dare say 1198 01:17:47,039 --> 01:17:53,399 this is probably the most docile and calming alien you will see in the entire 1199 01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:58,319 franchise. Every film after this, they start to get faster and more crazier 1200 01:17:58,399 --> 01:18:02,600 and more. I just feel like sometimes too much, sometimes too much. 1201 01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:08,159 There's some that are like fucking full of monster energy red Bull cheese, like 1202 01:18:08,159 --> 01:18:11,399 they're going crazy. I think that's the thing I do like about being slow 1203 01:18:11,439 --> 01:18:14,199 and lumbering is like it is a big thing. I get why you could 1204 01:18:14,239 --> 01:18:15,680 make it fast, but with it being like eight feet, it has to 1205 01:18:15,680 --> 01:18:18,640 be like some heavy legs and tail, like. I don't think it should 1206 01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,319 be uber fast. So I think there's like a good I think you could 1207 01:18:21,319 --> 01:18:24,840 make it faster than this, But I also still don't mind if it being 1208 01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:27,159 slower, because to me, it's just that thing of like, once it 1209 01:18:27,199 --> 01:18:29,000 gets you, like I said, it's like, what are you gonna do 1210 01:18:29,079 --> 01:18:30,479 with this thing? What are you gonna hit? It? Like has like 1211 01:18:30,760 --> 01:18:35,560 cause tails, like bony skeletons, multiple mouths, like it's like this thing 1212 01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:39,920 doesn't have to be fast to be scary. In my opinion, it's just 1213 01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:45,840 you just gotta avoid contact. So yeah, you find it, Kirkling, 1214 01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:55,039 No, I can't find it anyway. I don't know. Give me, 1215 01:18:55,079 --> 01:18:58,159 give me one you give me one search and I'll find and I guarantee you. 1216 01:18:58,199 --> 01:19:00,560 But yeah, I trust you, I'll find it for another time. 1217 01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:02,439 I think it was just on Twitter the other day, so that's what it's 1218 01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:13,159 not. That must be real then it on Twitter? Right? Anything else? 1219 01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:19,239 No trivia me trivia. The chest burster scene was not filmed one take, 1220 01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:23,319 despite the myth. The scene was filmed twice. On the first take, 1221 01:19:23,359 --> 01:19:27,880 the Chessberg chess Burg Burster was unable to cut through Cane's shirt, so 1222 01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:30,840 the crew needed to reset and shoot again. This failed attempt is visible in 1223 01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:34,199 the finish film, uh though it made it look like the creature was struggling 1224 01:19:34,239 --> 01:19:36,800 to push its way out and made it seem more violent. So the way 1225 01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:41,239 where it stops and hits the shirt first, that game might think, oh, 1226 01:19:41,279 --> 01:19:43,840 it's great. No, that was the failed cut that they kept in 1227 01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:45,840 there. But I like that because I think it's a good like kind of 1228 01:19:46,159 --> 01:19:49,199 building of events there. But like, there's not a lot of blood in 1229 01:19:49,239 --> 01:19:55,000 the movie overall, but that scene is like a very bloody which is the 1230 01:19:55,319 --> 01:19:58,279 burst of the chest. That's a trivia note I have later on, but 1231 01:19:58,319 --> 01:20:01,199 there's the I'm guessing that's the thing. The hour cut there's lots more blood 1232 01:20:01,199 --> 01:20:04,239 and lots more gore, but they took it out to avoid X rating back 1233 01:20:04,279 --> 01:20:09,359 then. So like that version of I think there's still X. There's NC 1234 01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:12,359 seventeen. I don't know if there is X anymore that much. I think 1235 01:20:12,359 --> 01:20:15,840 people might use as like a gimmick, but I don't know if you can 1236 01:20:15,880 --> 01:20:17,439 really get X rayed and have to look that out. The two takes the 1237 01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:21,159 Steam were shot from multiple angles and took about forty minutes of footage if from 1238 01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:26,439 or about forty minutes of the footage was available for the screening, So yeah, 1239 01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:29,760 there's forty minutes of that. Just trying to get that right, John 1240 01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:33,079 Hurt stuck his head and shoulders and arms through a hole in the mess table, 1241 01:20:33,199 --> 01:20:38,600 linking up with a mechanical torso that was packed and compressed with air to 1242 01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:41,920 create the forcele exit lots of animal guts, which, according to theory we 1243 01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:45,640 ever, caused the set to smell terrible. The rest of the cast were 1244 01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:49,079 told that told not that real blood guts were being used as to provoke genuine 1245 01:20:49,119 --> 01:20:54,520 reactions of shock and disgust when it bursted. Apparently this works as well that 1246 01:20:55,079 --> 01:21:00,800 Yepkota went home in complete shock afterwards, locking himself in the room and refusing 1247 01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:03,920 talk to his wife for several hours. Wow, no, that night. 1248 01:21:04,079 --> 01:21:10,720 I don't like that. That's fucked up. Yeah, according to Yeah a 1249 01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:15,159 different time. Let's just yeah. That same actor was told by Ridley's screen 1250 01:21:15,279 --> 01:21:19,800 really Scott off screen to annoy Sangourney Weaver so that there would be genuine tension 1251 01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:24,199 between the characters. Coach wo regret this because he really liked Weaver. So 1252 01:21:24,279 --> 01:21:29,560 Coacho had a very tough Uh. Yeah, he had a very tough shoot. 1253 01:21:30,199 --> 01:21:34,079 Traumatized being told to make fun of sin Goourney, poor guy. Yeah, 1254 01:21:34,119 --> 01:21:39,319 to get Jones the cat to fearfully react to the alien. A German 1255 01:21:39,359 --> 01:21:42,640 shepherd was placed in front of him and a scene between the two. Uh, 1256 01:21:42,840 --> 01:21:45,359 the cat wouldn't see it at all at all at first. The screen 1257 01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:48,279 then suddenly removed to make Joones stop advancing and start hissing. So there you 1258 01:21:48,319 --> 01:21:53,039 go, that's great. Uh. The face hugger was originally planned to be 1259 01:21:53,079 --> 01:21:57,560 painted green, but seeing the unpainted face Hugger on sec noticing how intrusive the 1260 01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:00,319 call occasion, flesh tone color was argued it would remain as it was. 1261 01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:08,319 And that's by Dan O'Bannon. The dead face Hugger, the ash what does 1262 01:22:08,319 --> 01:22:12,680 the autopsy on is using fresh shellfish, four oysters, and a sheep kidney 1263 01:22:12,720 --> 01:22:15,479 to recreate eternal organs. The filming had to be done quickly because the organic 1264 01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:19,720 material went bad very fast under studio lights, so that thing was just cooking 1265 01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:24,920 there. So yeah, original cut was three hours and twelve minutes actually, 1266 01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:30,560 so there's an additional seventy two minutes there. Let's see, there's a whole 1267 01:22:30,239 --> 01:22:33,439 So for the alien's appearance in the shuttle at the end, the set was 1268 01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:36,960 built around I mean I mispronounced this. The guy who was in the alien 1269 01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:43,000 suit Buljo bade Jo, giving him the effective hiding place. However, it 1270 01:22:43,039 --> 01:22:47,800 was excruciating for himself and it proved more diff difficult and anticipated to get out. 1271 01:22:48,039 --> 01:22:51,640 He tore the suit several times and one instant the whole tale came off. 1272 01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:55,640 So I guess they built that set from like sneak in, but then 1273 01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:59,279 when him getting out of there was apparently just like a nightmare that where he's 1274 01:22:59,319 --> 01:23:01,880 like sleeping in. I guess they went through a lot of suits. At 1275 01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:05,359 one point, Saint Glory thought she was deadly allergic to the cat, to 1276 01:23:05,399 --> 01:23:09,199 that point of asking if she should be recasted. They found out it was 1277 01:23:09,239 --> 01:23:13,720 just the makeup and the spray that made her look sweaty. So they kept 1278 01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:15,600 spraying her on this and shot it was the cat, but I don't know, 1279 01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,439 it was just this thing like making her breakout and everything. So yeah, 1280 01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:23,680 sir Ritty Scott, like a brutal movie toil. Yeah. I only 1281 01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:26,640 got a few more, but there is pages of trivia and there's tons of 1282 01:23:26,640 --> 01:23:29,800 fun stuff, so go to IMDb if you want more. Ridley Scott did 1283 01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:32,560 all the handheld camera work himself, so not all obviously that it doesn't always 1284 01:23:32,560 --> 01:23:36,640 happened with the director, but he was there doing that. I talked about 1285 01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:43,960 the allergy. Here you go. So a few inspirations. The writers Dan 1286 01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:49,159 O'Bannon and Roland Shushlett shush It were inspired where World War two stories about so 1287 01:23:49,239 --> 01:23:54,640 called grimlin monsters that supposedly stowed away on fighter planes. However, during early 1288 01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:57,720 development of the script, they ran into a writing impass while trying to work 1289 01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:00,680 out how an alien would actually get a board ship. So they came up 1290 01:24:00,680 --> 01:24:03,479 with the idea that the alien fox one of them, which was eventually developed 1291 01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:09,199 in the face hugger concept. The method of reproduction via implanting. Implantation was 1292 01:24:09,199 --> 01:24:14,720 deliberately intended to invoke images of male rape and impregnation. So Bo Friars were 1293 01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:18,119 adamant the face hugger victim be a man, firstly because they want to avoid 1294 01:24:18,119 --> 01:24:20,920 the horror cliche of using women as the first target. And secondly, they 1295 01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:25,039 want to make that the men feel comfortable uncomfortable as I talked about, So 1296 01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:30,920 yeah, inspired by World War two and sexual trauma was alien uh my last 1297 01:24:30,920 --> 01:24:34,239 two points since the original title was star Beast. But he was never happy 1298 01:24:34,279 --> 01:24:40,600 with the writer and he it was only after rereading the script that he noted 1299 01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:44,039 how many times the word alien appeared and realize that was the perfect title. 1300 01:24:44,720 --> 01:24:48,800 So I think, I'm so glad we didn't get that Starby's Covenant all that 1301 01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:53,920 stuff predatory. I don't know what it is, but this name was just 1302 01:24:54,039 --> 01:25:00,279 not stars And then sir Scott Stay that cast and Roll Ripley came down. 1303 01:25:00,279 --> 01:25:03,920 Sagre we here a Meryl Streep. The two actresses had gone to college that 1304 01:25:04,079 --> 01:25:08,159 yelled together and were college mates. Ultimately, Weaver was off for the job 1305 01:25:08,199 --> 01:25:11,640 because Streep was more of the death of her partner John Caziel at the time 1306 01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:13,920 of the casting. So I guess there neck and neck, but then she 1307 01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:17,920 pulled out. So there is a universe where it's a Meyl Street that's and 1308 01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:21,279 maybe there's universe for singular Weavers and Mama Mia. I don't know. But 1309 01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:29,399 Soigourney were like, I wonder what her career, Yeah, I don't know, 1310 01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:33,239 Like I wonder what the alter universe would have been for her. Same 1311 01:25:33,319 --> 01:25:36,640 thing with Streep though, because like back then, even like still to this 1312 01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:40,239 day, but back then, horror was looked as like a it's kind of 1313 01:25:40,239 --> 01:25:43,359 schlocky, you know, like that was like it was like porn and then 1314 01:25:43,399 --> 01:25:45,840 horror and that thing of like I wonder she would have got those Academy Award 1315 01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:49,079 roles and stuff like that if it's all you were an alien. Where after 1316 01:25:49,199 --> 01:25:53,680 she did Ghostbuster, like clearly sing Goourney we ever started to do like kind 1317 01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:57,840 of genre stuff right, and then did many other aliens. So I'm gonna 1318 01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:02,079 get the trailers well quickly because I want to see the originally why you do 1319 01:26:02,119 --> 01:26:06,800 that, because you mentioned the influences for the writers, which is really interesting. 1320 01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:11,760 What do you guys think the influences have been for Ridley Scott And like 1321 01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:16,119 just the visuals of this, like what movies predate this that would really, 1322 01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:20,680 oh God, be influences for this because it just seems so distinct, but 1323 01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:24,720 like there must be something. I'm trying to think of it, like the 1324 01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:30,359 sci fires to do some digging, but just because they're World War two comparison, 1325 01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:32,960 I imagine some war movies that are one location, like in a bunker 1326 01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:36,520 or in a ship like something like that, where it's claust or phobic. 1327 01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:41,319 That's the only thing I could pull from, but I can. I don't 1328 01:26:41,319 --> 01:26:44,760 know what to see if he puts anything I was trying to do some research 1329 01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:48,479 on that and could not find any meat. I'm a complete genius. Oh 1330 01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:53,479 there you go. He was partly inspired by Star Wars, whether that's one 1331 01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:58,479 so which doesn't doesn't clash in my mind when I see this, Like I 1332 01:26:58,479 --> 01:27:00,680 don't see Star Wars at all, like a couple of blinking lights on like 1333 01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:04,800 certain monitors. I guess obviously there's the space angle to it and the ship 1334 01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:08,399 stuff like that makes sense. And I think, just like that we talked 1335 01:27:08,399 --> 01:27:11,840 about before, like some of the tech looking old, but it's like in 1336 01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:15,039 the future, so that but like, uh, but yeah, the first 1337 01:27:15,119 --> 01:27:24,119 minute of this trailer is uh uh just just boysh yeah, not the multiplayer. 1338 01:27:24,159 --> 01:27:27,319 I don't want to do that. Hang on, no back thermod there. 1339 01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:32,359 Look at this. So it's just like audio. It's just not lunch. 1340 01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:36,680 Yes, look at this. We're gonna do this for next movie. 1341 01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:44,720 Just these trailers, like look at that. It's very much like a concept 1342 01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:47,479 trailer. So it's for fuel audio. It was just space and it was 1343 01:27:47,479 --> 01:27:50,920 making the words alien and then there's the egg. The egg breaks open and 1344 01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:56,800 there's like lots of shiny stuff. But yeah, just quick cuts here. 1345 01:27:56,800 --> 01:27:59,800 I'm trying to see what they do here. But this feels much more like 1346 01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:02,920 a in concentrated like this is what we want to make fund us but it's 1347 01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:10,159 all made and stuff. But I like this trailer actually right now, it's 1348 01:28:10,199 --> 01:28:14,239 just Sigourney running and they're showing different shots in the movie, but really quick 1349 01:28:14,279 --> 01:28:24,359 cuts. Yeah, it's pretty crazy if they don't show that you don't work 1350 01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:27,239 fastly. I don't know if they're good like I thought they would have. 1351 01:28:27,279 --> 01:28:32,319 But you know, back then, oh off with the just singley butt, 1352 01:28:32,359 --> 01:28:36,439 Wow, what are they showing there? Okay, so they show their face 1353 01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:43,000 however, offs back then you couldn't pause and see what's going on. Yeah, 1354 01:28:43,039 --> 01:28:45,760 you know that looks pretty intense there in space no one can use scrat 1355 01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:50,880 I feel like they truly just took They could have taken all those shots and 1356 01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:55,720 randomized the order, because there is just yea like the fact that the scene 1357 01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:59,079 of them waking up from the cryo sleep is like, I don't know, 1358 01:28:59,119 --> 01:29:00,840 two thirds of that trailer is so interesting to me, just in terms of 1359 01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:04,640 how the trailer format is for movies these days, where you're trying to like 1360 01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:09,760 convey what the story is to some extent, but to have a shot like 1361 01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:15,319 that. That was that was a weird trailer for not showing the Zeno. 1362 01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:19,239 That's that's so crazy. That makes it so much more interesting to where you 1363 01:29:19,279 --> 01:29:24,760 actually see the folly fledged Zeno morph like in the movie. And obviously it's 1364 01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:28,720 just such an iconic villain now, but way back then, like you just 1365 01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:32,000 see this little thing pop out of cane to where Dallas gets, you know, 1366 01:29:32,159 --> 01:29:36,439 rong coms from Lambert. It's that's crazy. That's that's like rare for 1367 01:29:36,560 --> 01:29:40,279 us nowadays, right, because not alsome you need to see the monster to 1368 01:29:40,319 --> 01:29:44,800 sell the movie, right, so that's almost a foreign concept. So good 1369 01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:47,800 on them. One. Then you have what's that fucking macavoy movie that's coming 1370 01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:54,439 out, the Speak No Evil. Yeah, they're giving it right to you 1371 01:29:54,479 --> 01:29:58,399 in that trailer. One other trivia thing I did not fact check this, 1372 01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:02,199 but I saw this when I was cruising around is apparently they really Scott had 1373 01:30:02,239 --> 01:30:06,399 like his kids or one of his kids, and like some other producer guy 1374 01:30:06,560 --> 01:30:11,199 kid came on in the set to help film like some of the scenes where 1375 01:30:11,199 --> 01:30:14,560 they're like this when they're in the space suits and they're going through those just 1376 01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:17,000 alien like environments and next to the ship and stuff. They like put kids 1377 01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:21,319 in those suits to help make the scale work, make things look bigger than 1378 01:30:21,359 --> 01:30:27,479 they were. But apparently the suits were just like really heavy and like really 1379 01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:30,640 hot, and so the kids were like not passing up, but like getting 1380 01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:31,920 close to it. So it's like, yeah, that kind of thing. 1381 01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:34,800 We're like not fly anymore. But I love that idea that like, what 1382 01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:40,720 can we do to make these sets look even bigger? Yeah's not gonna be 1383 01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:43,560 facing down Hunter Andrenochrome too, like, oh, we just need this, 1384 01:30:43,720 --> 01:30:53,920 we need Hunters seem really tall. Grab the magazine. Final Thoughtstone, Uh 1385 01:30:54,039 --> 01:30:58,720 no, this is this is a fun one to revisit and and uh talk 1386 01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:00,119 about, And yeah, I think I I should put this more in my 1387 01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:04,800 rotation to some extent because I feel like there's certain things, especially you know, 1388 01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:08,439 Taylor's so deep on the lower these things, which I always appreciate, 1389 01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:12,079 but there's certain elements that, like, man, i'd really I want to 1390 01:31:12,119 --> 01:31:14,880 rewatch it now. Just think about some of those things you talked about and 1391 01:31:14,960 --> 01:31:18,560 just try and formulate some some concepts around them. So yeah, good time 1392 01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:23,560 with this one. I'm gonna I'm gonna give this an eight out of ten. 1393 01:31:24,159 --> 01:31:30,319 Oh right, number reading. Yeah, I will drop the big old 1394 01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:34,119 ten just because I don't really have many cons. I enjoy the hell this 1395 01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:39,720 and it did so much for film, and I also just again it's when 1396 01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:42,399 we watch these old movies, I just like and not that people aren't doing 1397 01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:45,720 it, but all that practical stuff like it just even when it's old, 1398 01:31:45,720 --> 01:31:47,279 which lots time. This movie's seventies, Like of course looks old, but 1399 01:31:47,359 --> 01:31:53,159 like there's things that just they just withstand the test of time because they're still 1400 01:31:53,199 --> 01:31:55,560 real. You know. It's not like in an effect. It's like eventually 1401 01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:58,439 affects like oh well, you know that looks a little less now because now 1402 01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:00,800 we can do this, or like we look at video answers like oh look 1403 01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:02,079 at that versus twenty or they're like, oh, of course it looks better. 1404 01:32:02,079 --> 01:32:05,319 It's just like no matter what, like those controls in that ship look 1405 01:32:05,359 --> 01:32:09,279 good because like they're real controls that were built, you know. And there's 1406 01:32:09,319 --> 01:32:12,239 lots of other things that are great about it too, But yeah, iconic 1407 01:32:12,319 --> 01:32:15,600 character, chonic moments, great mystery. Love it. So that's that's where 1408 01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:20,760 I am on this one. Yeah, I'm a I'm a firm ten and 1409 01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:25,600 a ten on this one. This is definitely one of my favorite movies of 1410 01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:30,880 all time. I truly love this one, and I don't really have anything 1411 01:32:30,920 --> 01:32:33,640 else to add. I'm excited to see the bush version. That's I haven't 1412 01:32:33,640 --> 01:32:38,560 seen yet, So bush Cut, I get the bush Cut. No vhs, 1413 01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:46,279 I have probably the bush Cut. It's bush It's uh yeah, this 1414 01:32:46,359 --> 01:32:53,000 movie, it's bird as bushed. This movie is always an absolute treat to 1415 01:32:53,079 --> 01:32:56,680 revisit. I really really like it, and it's just such a great a 1416 01:32:56,720 --> 01:33:00,399 great starting from ground zero point off into such a expansive universe. And so 1417 01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:03,840 this is something I'm gonna be revisiting it many many times again in the future. 1418 01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:09,760 I can't wait to get my get my daughter invested in this eventually down 1419 01:33:09,800 --> 01:33:14,399 the road whenever she I mean, she started watching it, but I didn't 1420 01:33:14,880 --> 01:33:17,039 get like I lost interest that far. Not even though she lost interest. 1421 01:33:17,079 --> 01:33:19,600 I just like when when Caine was dying, I thought, you know, 1422 01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:23,800 you don't really need to watch this. Let's let's let's put you in a 1423 01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:27,479 different room. It's like clockwork Gorn. She was loved it. She was 1424 01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:30,960 loving it the beginning, and all that fucking strobe lights going on at the 1425 01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:41,560 across the floor like the like the alien you look over just like slithers off 1426 01:33:41,600 --> 01:33:44,239 to the coach. Uh. But I'm gonna give it. I'm gonna give 1427 01:33:44,239 --> 01:33:47,159 it a kiddle ten out of ten. This movie is just it's it's fucking 1428 01:33:47,399 --> 01:33:51,479 fantastic and I can't wait to get to Aliens. Man. Oh, it's 1429 01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:56,399 gonna be a good good time. This picture you and Madison grabbing your cattle 1430 01:33:56,960 --> 01:34:00,520 prods? And where did she go? I think she's in the kitchen somewhere. 1431 01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:13,720 No, Taylor, not that way. Move. I love it. 1432 01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:16,079 What are you looking for, Travis? You're looking for the bush? Yeah, 1433 01:34:16,119 --> 01:34:23,560 it's looking at five five grand and weeks worth of production and remove the 1434 01:34:24,039 --> 01:34:28,680 bush. But I don't know. I've grand it's like a trillion dollars in 1435 01:34:28,720 --> 01:34:31,119 the seventies. Yeah, I don't know, because it's weird because I see 1436 01:34:31,119 --> 01:34:33,680 people sharing the story. But then I see all these things saying, oh, 1437 01:34:33,720 --> 01:34:36,000 no, it's not that, But I guess we have to wait till 1438 01:34:36,039 --> 01:34:39,079 this. So did you lie to us? Travis? Is that what you're 1439 01:34:39,079 --> 01:34:43,800 saying? You gotta pull the VHS? What's your search query? I'm curious. 1440 01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:50,680 You gotta be careful, She sings up nineteen seventy nine. I'm gonna 1441 01:34:50,680 --> 01:34:55,720 try some different keywords here and see what I pull. This movie clip is 1442 01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:59,640 from eight years ago. Let's see eight she's already suited up. That's not 1443 01:34:59,680 --> 01:35:05,199 gonna work. The bush is just fucking bushing out. I think we can 1444 01:35:05,239 --> 01:35:08,439 call it there, unless I was wrong. I don't know. But like, 1445 01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:14,000 because I see this quote from like, I see this thing from him. 1446 01:35:14,039 --> 01:35:15,239 But now it's like, I don't know if that's a real quote. 1447 01:35:15,239 --> 01:35:18,000 So maybe I don't know. I'm not sure. This is just a running 1448 01:35:18,000 --> 01:35:21,079 gig about the airbrush quote. I saw that one. Apparently it's fake. 1449 01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:28,479 What airbrush? Just that Sigourney Weaver refused to shave or bush so then they 1450 01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:30,960 had to spend a bunch of money to airbrush and hide it. That's what. 1451 01:35:31,319 --> 01:35:34,760 Yeah, I read that one, So maybe I think, see that's 1452 01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:38,079 I know. Maybe it's just this whole thing is an urban legend, you 1453 01:35:38,119 --> 01:35:46,520 know, the whole bush in general and everything VHS four K. So yeah, 1454 01:35:46,520 --> 01:35:49,239 I don't have a VCR here, so I can't test it so easily. 1455 01:35:49,520 --> 01:35:55,279 Yeah, we'll find out one day, we'll report back, yeah exactly. 1456 01:35:55,680 --> 01:36:00,119 Until then, we'll be worrying. Bye bye m