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you what they took from the property in

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New York. All right, so
this was the this is the list.

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Some of that's pretty you know,
the description of what is at it.

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I'll show you the old property.
Wow, on way back? What stuff?

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All this stuff anything from New York. You're going the way back.

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When's the last time you were there? Oh? I was there just a

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year or so ago. But living
there, I haven't made you would stayed

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there? You would buy the twenty
eleven at the period of time? Oh

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yeah yeah every time I back already
go by. But I mean all this

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stuff that's there is it's like childhood
memories. Did you live there for a

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period of time? Yeah, oh
less than a year in ninety seven?

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I think that, yeah, maybe
seven. This is true crime bullshit.

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I'm your host, Josh Hallmark,
and this is a serialized story of Israel

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Keys. The investigation into Israel Keys
is massive and endless, and even with

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each new clue or piece of actual
or potential evidence, it only feels bigger.

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Over the past year, we've found
new information that we haven't been able

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to make sense of or properly place
in the puzzle that is Keys or that

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has entirely upended some of our strongest
beliefs and foundations. It's been both humbling

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and revitalizing. Let's start with Constable. Through the photos we've obtained, the

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research we've done, and interviews I've
conducted, it's become more and more clear

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that Keys spent significantly more time and
Constable than he let on, and that

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has only left us with more questions
than an answers. Why did Keys rent

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out the Constable house to David?
And why was seemingly heidy collecting the rent.

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Whose white van or s u V
was parked behind that house in two

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thousand one, and why and how
long was it there? Did it just

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happen to be there when that aerial
photograph was taken or did it sit there

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for weeks, months, years?
Whose roller skates, ice skates and shoes

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are scattered all throughout that property and
when did they arrive there? Who brought

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multiple newspapers over a several year period
to that house? And why if it

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was keys, particularly in a pre
nameous era, what was he looking for?

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Keys told Kimberly he had a cash
buried with guns and stuff on his

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Constable property. Was it ever located? And why was he really hiding those

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guns and stuff? And what of
all the jewelry and undergarments found in the

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woods and burn pits on the property
and the bullet holes in the outhouse.

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Keys admitted to using at least one
outhouse to rape someone and to scouting several

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others to at minimum commit rapes in
and we believe Deborah Feldman is most likely

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in an outhouse tank along the Raquet
River. So was Keys using the outhouse

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on his own property to torture or
shoot someone? And the most mundane question

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about Constable is also the one I'm
most troubled by. If David and his

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wife were able to move their stuff
in and store their horse and cow in

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the barn, when and how did
it accumulate so much stuff after their departure.

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And then there's that two thousand one
photo. We received it in the

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midst of our newspaper investigation and research, and it frankly ended up in the

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research chat and quickly got sidelined,
but we've since been able to spend more

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time with it and look more closely
at it, and have found even more

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details, details which incite big questions
and even bigger concerns. As of Wednesday,

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June twenty sixth, I've shared the
photo with the TCB research team,

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Joshua and Dakota from Somewhere in the
Pines, and the Top Studio both and

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Patreon tiers, and while a few
items have been debated, there has been

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complete or near complete agreement on the
following. A white jeep or suv,

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a late eighties or early nineties Toyota
minivan, a tow trailer or tow trailer

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camper, an outbuilding not mentioned in
any of the files nor currently on the

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property, a significant amount of lumber
or firewood, a canopy covering a mound

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of dirt or a k with a
tarp over it, and what appears to

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be either a convertible car or a
boat. The photo is currently posted to

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the True Crime Bullshit instagram for those
who want to take a look. We'll

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be discussing it at length throughout this
episode. Now, there's a lot to

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unpack here, and let's start with
how we got the photo in the first

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place, and what we've done with
it since. Kim k found the photo

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while searching vintageerial dot com, an
online collector and retailer that works with photographers

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and individuals to map out the United
States across the ages. One company,

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who I've since learned as one of
their larger providers, did a series of

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aerial photography of homes and mills in
North Franklin County, New York, and

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included in that is the photo that
Kim found. According to the website,

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the photo was taken in two thousand
and one, and it's wild to think

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that an aerial photography company would buy
chants photograph a serial killer's backyard, then

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sell that photograph to a public website
for the whole world to peruse without either

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the photographer nor the website knowing what
they were looking at or that it could

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one day be evidence. But here
we are. Life is strange. I

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contacted Vintage Aerial directly to ask if
there was any way to pinpoint the exact

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date that that photo was taken,
and the short answer was no. But

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the guy spoke with was able to
narrow down the timeframe quite a bit.

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According to him, this particular photographer
took his series in spring and autumn each

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year, and based on the foliage
in the photo, it was very clearly

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taken in spring two thousand and one, and that will be meaningful for a

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few reasons. But hold that thought. After we received the photo, we

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had friends of the show, Kathleen
Studor and Michael Bears digitally enhance it,

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and in some areas it was extremely
helpful, and in others it didn't provide

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much more clarity. But back to
spring of two thousand and one, it's

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a very interesting time in Keyes's life, a phrase I feel like I've said

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a lot lately. Tammy had just
gotten pregnant and very shortly after moved to

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Nia Bay. As you'll recall,
when she first told Keys, he was

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very upset and they broke up around
that same time Keyes got the duy.

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Spring oh one also lines up with
the extended time we believe Keyes spent on

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the East Coast using up any service
leave prior to his army discharge, which

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coincides with statements made by Heidi that
Keyes spent either six to eight months or

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six to eight weeks with her and
her family in Maine. Additionally, during

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this period, there are three names
forty five disappearances, Stephen Kraft Junior,

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Bethany marquet Howski, and Shana Kirkpatrick. They all disappeared within a seven week

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time frame, and at this point
we have reason to believe that Keys was

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not involved in any of these disappearances. Now, as we discussed in season

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five, episode twelve, in a
February twelfth, twenty thirteen interview, Heidi

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Keys offhandedly told the FBI that following
Keys's return from Egypt, he stayed with

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her in Maine for either six to
eight months or six to eight weeks.

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For a while, it was a
statement that bothered us. For starters,

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there was no other record or evidence
of it, and secondly, it just

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didn't track with what we knew about
his military service. But when we started

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digging into it, we found that
based on the timeline, it would have

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been impossible for Keyes to have lived
in Maine for six to eight months,

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but there were a few places where
the timeline would allow for six to eight

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weeks August through October of two thousand
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two thousand one, which is just
shy of four months where we can't place

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Keys anywhere and aligns almost exactly with
Heidi's statement both the time and time frame.

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But when we first reported on this, the big question was how would

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that have worked for his army service, And as we detailed in that episode,

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long story short, Keyes would have
needed to use any leave he had

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before he was discharged, and he
would have accrued quite a bit, particularly

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while he was abroad. And so
suddenly this crazy statement from Heidi not only

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made sense but fit the timeline and
the narrative. And all this is to

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say, if Keys did in fact
spend Spring of two thousand and one in

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New England, it would explain why
the house and the yard are in such

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good and seemingly active condition in this
Spring of two thousand and one photo,

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because Keys was very likely just in
the area for an extended amount of time,

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or still was when the photo was
taken. Based on the close proximity

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in time for the three name is
forty five disappearances. It seems also very

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two thousand and one photo, let's start

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with the item that looks like either
a convertible sedan or a boat, since

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it's the most disputed and the enhanced
photos didn't help much with it. Some

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people saw a truck, some people
saw building supplies, some people saw a

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boat, some people saw a convertible
sedan, and some people saw a travel

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trailer. To me, it looks
exactly like a boat on a trailer,

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but as a whole, it means
that for now it's mostly moot, but

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if it was a boat, the
implications would be wide and terrifying. Next,

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let's look at the white jeep or
suv, which, for the sake

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of brevity, i'll refer to as
the suv. The suv is parked behind

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the barn, so it would not
be visible from the road or really anywhere

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outside the property. It's parked pretty
deep in some pretty heavy shrubbery, indicating

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that it was either parked with the
intention to conceal it, or that it

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had been parked there for a significant
period of time, or you know both.

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And we know, based on the
FBI records in the case files,

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that Keys never owned, or at
least never registered, anything resembling a white

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jeep, suv, or van.
And while we are actively pulling records on

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cars owned by the Keys family,
it doesn't likely belong to them, because

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according to both Keys and Heidi,
no one in the Keys family returned to

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the Constable cabin after it was sold
to Israel. But you know, grain

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of salt. Obviously, the first
case that comes to mind is Mora Murray's

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due to the suspicious white jeep in
the area on the night that she disappeared,

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and the odd Chrysler part found in
her car and the white marks on

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her bumper. But while this car
is at least jeep shaped, we can't

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say for certain it is a jeep
at all, let alone a jeep Grand

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Cherokee. When you search NamUs for
white jeeps, only four cases come up,

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all of which are from two thousand
and six or later. And when

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you do a search for just white
suv there are no cases anywhere north of

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Florida on or near the East coast. And this goes on. Just about

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every possible version of white jeep or
suv that I plugged into NamUs brought forth

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no new leads. But we can't
forget that Keys also carjacked people and then

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used those cars to commit crimes.
And when we take a look at reported

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sightings that include cars. There are
a few possible matches for the suv.

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A woman reported to the FBI that
in or around the autumn of nineteen ninety

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eight, a man resembling Keys flagged
her down along Route four ninety six in

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Franklin, Massachusetts and told her that
her tailpipe was on fire when she got

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out of her car. He tried
to get her into his white van several

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times. And while this car in
question to me looks more like a jeep

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or an suv, it's not outside
the realm of possibility that it's a white

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van. This sighting was at the
same time as the two Orino main collision

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rapist encounters we covered earlier this season. Old white Van comes up again in

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the spring of two thousand and six
in Carthage, Missouri, where a woman

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claims she met Keys at a hardware
store where he was asking if there were

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any local handyman jobs because he was
going to be in the area for a

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while. And this is a little
bit interesting because we do have two names

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forty five disappearances out of Missouri.
But the most interesting is almost a decade

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after that two thousand and one photo
was taken, and it's a sighting we've

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covered many times, including briefly in
the last episode in Plattsburgh, New York,

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just thirty five minutes from Constable,
a woman believes that Israel Keys followed

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her from a convenience store to her
office in the pre sunrise hours of either

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April seventh or April twenty first.
She described him as having slick back,

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brown hair, a Roman nose,
medium build, wearing car hearts, and

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standing at about five foot ten.
She said that he was driving an older

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Jeep that was rusty and either tan
or white and very dirty. And while

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the suv and convertible or maybe boat
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the Toyota minivan in the photo has
taken us back to an entirely different arm

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of our investigation data mining. The
digital enhancement was most effective with the van.

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It made it way more clear to
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severe damage in its front end.
The van is a very specific style of

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minivan. Based on its shape,
it is almost certainly and exclusively a Toyota

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Previa or possibly a Toyota town Ase, but since the town Ace was made

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and distributed exclusively in Japan, seems
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that's where things got weird, because
while we were searching the internet trying to

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sort out exactly what type of van
this was, Jordan quietly remembered something from

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our twenty twenty two data mining.
One of those data mining projects was to

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go through various articles and blog posts
on missing persons cases and look for comments

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that mirrored Keys's comments on Samantha Koenig's
articles, and one such comment rang multiple

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alarm bells for us on an Anchorage
KTVA article titled new Reward and Koenigg Disappearance

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Case, Israel commented on March fifth
of twenty twelve at two forty five am,

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I really don't know what to say. This is beyond ridiculous, and

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that's what happens. Why you have
the public doing all work in making this

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more stupid or worse as they already
are. Besides, who in the right

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mind would come forth like this if
he was responsible and handle the bs that

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comes with owning a disgusting place like
a strip club. That's one of three

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comments on the Koenik case that we
factually know Keys made. But at eleven

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forty one that same morning, another
commenter posted the following on the same article.

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Some people are so quick to judge. Seriously, this guy is trying

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to help. It seems he has
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myself and think they are trashy.
But to each their own. I guess

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he could just sell the business and
add to the reward amount in that manner

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too, But again, he's trying
to help. Respect people respect. Let's

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start with the phrase to each their
own, which is obviously a common phrase,

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but in Keys's lexicon it seems quite
abundant. He says it multiple times

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in the interviews, and he says
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that stood out. But more than
the phrase was the commenter's user name ak

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TX, the state Keys lived in, and the state he was preparing to

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move too and would be traveling to
the following day. So we started running

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that username through some of our various
tools and came up with two very similar

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email matches, meaning the username was
associated with both email addresses which were similar.

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We then ran those email addresses through
a data breach search engine and found

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that they were only associated with one
IP address, the Anchorage Public Library.

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To be more specific, the closest
Anchorage Public library to Keys's house. Computers.

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You mentioned when computers first cannot you
start doing searches and looked just wanted

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to see what was up with the
military guys, when you would You've talked

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before with us about there were a
couple times that you would go on your

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computer and do a search just to
see if a body had been found or

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I don't know, arsenal bank,
rubber or whatever it is. When you

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were doing it, how would you
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did you know names of everybody?
Or would you do this no search

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a town or how would you do
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of the computer that you guys got, I generally wouldn't do it on the

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home computers. I had another computer
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but for the most part it was
a computer that I was planning on having

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around for a while. I would
never do researches on it. Search as

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I did do were usually pretty generic. I would type in an area or

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a newspaper of an area, and
type in a keyword. I would never

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type in a specific name the name
of the newspaper from the area, like

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if I would use right so yeah, I would do a search of news

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from an area I guess, and
then pull up either a newspaper channel online

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news, type in a keyword of
something, and just scroll down the different

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stories. So I found them one
I was looking for. If I was

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doing it from an anonymous computer like
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I would do, I would just
type in what I wanted right away,

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bring it up. Did you know
the names or did you remember the names

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of most of the people? Yeah, well yeah on the major things.

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Yeah, okay. So we had
commenting activity on the same article on the

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same day as Keys. Language that
mirrored Keys is both in and out of

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the article comments, a username that
was reflective of Keys, and an IP

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address leading to Keys's local library.
But we were also able to find this

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person's email password in the data reach
search and that didn't seem to have any

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connection to Keys, and with that
we were at a dead end until today

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because that password matches the make and
model of the van pictured at Keys's constable

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cabin. So if this is Keys, and to me, it's way too

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many coincidences for it not to be, But it's also not definitive in any

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way. What is the significance of
that Toyota Previa from over a decade before.

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In twenty twelve, last in law
enforcement came face to face with one

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of this country's most prolific serial killers. His name is Israel Keys. Investigators

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say Israel Keys had a so called
murder kit. Keys strategically hit a box

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filled with weapons and tools near the
Winduski River. There is an orange home

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deco bucket. Inside would be a
gun, weapons of the ship tize.

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He always flew somewhere, rented the
car and then drove hundreds, if not

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one thousand miles. He told investigators. He left the kids in Washington State,

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Wyoming, and Texas and Land.
The high one in Arizona was in

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a whole bunch of states. I
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New York, New Jersey, California, Texas, Illinois, Tennessee.

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Had a cash in Washington because a
very month, all right, that was

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a kid. I was used to
dream that I'd find buried trader, and

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very well, if they can't find
it, I might as well create it.

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Somewhere in the Pines is a serial
podcast dedicated to locating the hidden caches

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of American serial killer Israel Keys.
Season one premiere Spring twenty twenty four.

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Join the search at Somewhere in the
Pines dot com. On a late night

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this June, I sat in my
office and pressed start meeting on what would

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be a game changing moment and the
first of many in our KEYS investigation.

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Eight faces and about thirty years of
KEYS research began to populate the video squares,

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and for the first time ever,
the True Crime Bullshit Research team and

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the Somewhere in the Pines team were
all face to face discussing things we've mostly

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never discussed with the public. All
of our findings, contributing experts, theories,

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new and old leads, and a
massive collaborative success. Hi everyone,

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So it's like we have as much
to talk about as we want or as

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little. I figured this we could
do something a little informal, but I'm

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sure Dakota and Josh have a lot
they want to share, and they've had

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lots of questions about hunters. So
I feel like, Jordan, you can

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talk about hunters, but maybe why
don't we all just start by briefly introducing

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ourselves. It feels very like a
corporate ye, but we discussed a lot

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possible cashews, possible victims, disagreements. We discussed Jordan's findings in Hunters,

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Washington. We do have the address, I do have property records, I

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have a map with the property bunds
on it, and I can get all

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that information to you, guys.
I just want to know why he was

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there in the first place. Were
you able to confirm a property that the

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FBI had searched during their investigation,
Jordan? They so, they had gone

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to two hunters. They were asking
about a property across the street from a

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guy, and they mentioned when they
left the interview, he was missing the

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last two fingers on his right hand
when he shook his hand, he's wearing

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a glove. I was able to
confirm through a traffic ticket on a CDL

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that the guy that owned the house, the house across the street from the

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one that I've identified, was missing
the same two fingers, and through a

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side TA he was actually sited and
against his CDL because he failed to report

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he dis missing those two fingers on
his physical So we know for a fact

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that that's the right property and address. I just don't know why he was

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there. We don't know specifically what
the link is. I've been digging on

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it there's a lady up in Washington
State that's been a ton of help.

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I'll compile everything I've got on that
property and in your way. Yeah,

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years to the day after her and
her wedding, so it was her.

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It was like the day after her
when you're wedding at her, when he's

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at the property. Okay, and
Jordans, did we confirmed that America keys

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Hunters, Washington, Yes, yes, there is, yeah, there,

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yeah, there there we go.
That was blank. I'm sorry, it's

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been a minute. So his sister, mister America married a man that lived

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in Hunters and their properties right down
the road from this place too. So

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we discussed many of Joshua's and Dakota's
theories on cash is just basically, now

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look at us trying to find a
cash, trying to find a specific kind

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of cash, because we think there
are six different types of cashes. So

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that's that's kind of the We're really
excited about that. So yeah, I

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definitely love to talk to you about
that. And throughout eighty minutes of conversation,

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we discussed how the eight of us
were going to collaboratively as a team

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helped solve more of the Israel Keys
case. Mountain on top the far below

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the pressure, cruise pressure. I
feel the way of a billion years come

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down on me, come down.
I tried to do it all right.

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I went down, down, down, working hard, little delight. I

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forgot the sun of the parts so
bright. I cannot hide, so hey,

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the I cannot mine all of this
pressure's sake, guys, so wild,

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I can dame, so Shannya can
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him, I spose. This episode
was written, researched, edited, and

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produced by me josh Hallmark, with
additional research by Kim Ka, Michelle Tooker,

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Shana Walensky, and Jordan Taylor.
This episode featured Joshua and Dakota from

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Somewhere in the Pines, Shana Wa
Lensky, Michelle Tooker, Kim Kay and

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music by My Brightest Diamond sing on
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side is doing all right? I
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had little I've forgotten the sound.
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