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Because as China is reducing its purchasing
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this way. If other countries are
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our geopolitical positions, then they can
sell the debt, so their interest rate

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has to go up. So it's
really you know, he may have started

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this on the inflationary idea, but
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Hey. It's August third, twenty

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twenty three, and there's so much
going on the world in the world that

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we had to get Martin Armstrong back. Martin, you got a new book

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coming out called de Dollarization, and
that's got a hyphen in it. I

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didn't know that it was spelled that
way. But we should start there first

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with everything that's happened with a dollar. You know, the dollar was trading

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it near records, then it pulled
back, had a substantial pullback down to

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under a hundred. Now it's back
going back higher. De dollarization fact fiction,

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fancy, and de dollarize great,
But what do you wind up with

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then the bricks currency. You know, it seems to me that the whole

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bricks currency is getting created because their
currencies are collapsing as well, and they

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got to come up with an alternative
otherwise they're going to be even more stuck

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with a dollar. Well, yeah, I mean the whole problem is that

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the main I would say the real
backing of the dollar is the fact that

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the United States is kind of like
Britain was before World War One, that

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everybody was issuing bonds in China,
United States, even in British pounds,

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because that was the financial center of
the world. If you wanted to raise

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money, sell bonds, you had
to go to London, you know.

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After you know, World War Two, that simply became United States. So

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the real problem with like bricks or
anything else replacing the dollar is kind of

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absurd because they're not going to be
the ones financing the world. You know,

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so, I mean countries they'll go
to Goldman, Sachs, et cetera,

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Greece, you know, Malaysia or
whatever. You know, you really

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think they're going to go to uh
India and Brazil and China for launching systems

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and stocks and stuff. I mean, you know, you have to look

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at this from what is really the
backing of the dollar, and that is

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the deep financial markets that we have
today. That doesn't mean it lasts forever.

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I mean Britain lost it, we
will lose it too, but it's

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not to the bricks for anything of
this particular nature. Most of this has

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turned on the fact that since the
Biden administration, the neocons have gotten controlled

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basically everything, and so they made
the stupid mistake of removing Russia from SWIFT

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and in doing so, you basically
choreographed to the rest of the world.

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Hey, you either do what we
say or we will remove you. So

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then you have China setting up chips, you have Iran setting up one,

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and so now the threat of removing
a country from the SWIFT system doesn't carry

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what it used to. And you
know, effectively, what they did was

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they divided the world economy. So
globalization is really pretty much dead. And

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that's the real problem. So the
de dollarization thing that it's got nothing really

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to do with our deficits or anything
of that nature. It's due political.

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You can't be out there threatening China
and Russia and then go to them and

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say, oh, gee, okay, fine, you know, will you

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lend us one hundred billion dollars so
we can buy some bullets to shooget,

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you know. I mean it's just
you know, at some point, you

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do not buy the debt of your
enemy. And that's really you know what's

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taking place. Who China has been
selling off us that every month, and

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you can't blame them. I mean, if we're going to continue this nonsense

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of attacking the people that actually buy
the bonds, then they're not going to

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buy them, right, all right, So that leaves us with a banking

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crisis. All right. We've seen
four banks fail, one bank being taken

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under I think it was called Is
this banking crisis going to be as bad

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as O eight? O nine?
More so in Europe rather than in the

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United States? And the primary problem
is that they kept interest rates artificially low

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for too long. Europe was the
worst. They went to negative rates in

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twenty fourteen, and then you require
the banks to have collateral role and reserves

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and they have to be in government
bonds. So you look at Europe and

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I mean pension funds and banks,
I mean they've lost thirty forty percent of

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their of their capital because as interest
rates go up, you know, the

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negative bonds, I mean, you
have to reduce the price to compensate for

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the current interest rate. And that's
really what took down the few banks in

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the US that um. I mean, as you know, I've I've dealt

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with governments and corporations for forty years
and the problem is most of these boards,

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um, they don't have the expertise, right, and you know a

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lot of them are simply you know, being counters and lawyers. That's it.

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They don't. I mean look at
SVB, I mean effectively, there

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wasn't anybody on the board a hand
any banking experience. Well, at least

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with signature you had Barney Frank,
right, he was very confidence inspiring,

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wasn't it. Oh yeah, I
mean, I mean this is the problem.

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They appoint people to boards mainly because
they have some sort of a political

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connection and not that they have any
expertise in what the subject matter really is.

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I mean, I'm going to board
meetings and it's just I feel like,

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you know, I'm teaching kindergarten.
It's really bad. Yeah. Yeah,

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well that's for sure. So so
interest rates. Though, at what

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point? How far can Powell take
this? How far is he going to

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go? Actually he's got no choice. Is out of control. Yeah,

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because as China is reducing its purchasing
of debt. I just look at it

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this way. If other countries are
not going to buy the debt because of

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our geopolitical positions, then they can't
sell the debt, so their interest rate

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has to go up. So it's
really you know, he may have started

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this on the inflationary idea, but
um, it's it's taking on a life

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of its own. And because you
have, like I said, in Europe,

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you know, negative rights since twenty
fourteen, the more the losses um

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you know, the higher they can't
afford to buy anymore bonds. Right.

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So I mean that's the whole crisis
that we have U and only the banks

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that are more sophisticated in least hedging
their their um their portfolios, you know,

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can really survive. But I mean
you look at SVB. I mean

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they basically, you know, this
woke agenda is absurd. Oh you know,

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they're hiring people because they're a woman, or their color or this not

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the expertise, you know, Um, it's it's it's really pathetic. But

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you know you're supposed to hire the
most qualified person, not the least.

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Yeah, it's supposed to be a
meritocracy at least. That's when we grew

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up. That's what they taught us. You work hard, you know,

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you study, you get good grades. So they might worn't that best,

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but they were okay. And then
you go and you start a career and

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that's your that's your pathway to the
American dream. And now it's to be

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a favorite class and get benefits bestowed
upon you by the by the ruling class,

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right. I mean it's kind of
been stood on its head. So

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yeah, I mean I have clients
that have sent me emails that their um

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sound is going through MBA and everything
else and they can't get a job because

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they're right color or you know it's
you know, they don't fill the slot.

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Yep, yep. Yeah. So
all right, so we got a

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lot of problems. What about the
stock market. It seems to be laughing

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in the face of all of these
all of these major issues, even higher

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interest rates, so that we haven't
seen that before. Actually you have if

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you if you don't listen to the
propaganda about interest rates in the stock market

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and just step back and look at
it. The Federal Reserve started raising interest

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rates as soon as Trump came to
office. They were going up throughout his

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entire you know, administration, Yet
they called it the Trump rally. Would

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basically when I was writing The Greatest
Bullmarket back in nineteen eighty six, which

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we will republish because but I found
it fascinating that the thinking process before nineteen

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twenty nine was completely opposite. As
long as interest rates were going up,

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people were cheering because it meant that
there were still a demand for money.

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And when you go into a recession
or a depression, interest rates collapse because

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nobody's willing to borrow. That's why, you know, the ECB went to

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negative rates to try and punish people
for saving. But if you don't know

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what tomorrow is going to bring,
you don't go out and spend lavishly.

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And you know, I've published studies
on our site. I mean, you

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can Google. You know, call
money rates back to eighteen ninety nine and

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you'll see that. You know,
the stock market has never peaked with the

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same level of interest rates twice.
What it is is that if you think

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the stock market will double next year, you'll pay twenty percent, But if

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you think it's not going to go
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percent. So it's it's really a
combination of expectations and whatever the rate is.

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So right now, Um, you
have to also ask yourself, okay,

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fine, I mean I've gotten some
people say, well, gee,

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you don't think the stock market is
going to completely crash? And then what

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do you do with the money?
You run to bonds? Do you really

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want to buy government bonds in this
atmosphere? And then they look at well,

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no, okay, so what are
you going to do? Um?

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Question? You know you you you
go to cash and to keep bundles to

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cash in your house and they cancel
it. Uh. It's it's so you

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have a lot of people that are
diversifying. That's why the real estate market

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is up. Um. Antique coins
are stuff like this, uh, pretty

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much anything off the grid as long
as well as the stock market and even

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gold. Uh. These are all
tend to be tangible assets so to speak.

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Um, whereas the traditional flight to
quality, as you know, you

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sell the stocks and buy the bonds. Well, this time that's not working.

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Yeah, nobody wants them. So
what about real estate? You know,

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we're still having a real estate boom
in Florida. Prices are up five

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percent year over year, and so
far high interest rates have not killed off

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the market here and in many other
markets. Is that going to continue or

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yeah? I mean I spoke to
a local realtor that that I know here

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in Florida, and he says,
the houses that are like one to five

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million dollars, people are paying cash. They're not they're not getting mortgages.

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They're just paying cash for this stuff. And I would say, really,

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what you have is if you look
at the data on the Census and everything

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else, you'll see there's a massive
shift, uh since COVID from the north

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to the south. I mean,
I had a friend who was, you

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know, a an executive VP up
at one of the major banks in New

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York, and he gave me a
call and he says, hey, you

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want to go to dinner? I
said, oh sure, I thought he

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was down here on vacation and so
I moved. I should you move?

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We can work virtual now. Goldman
Sachs moved its most profitable division to Boca

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ratan largest fund manager hedge fund manager
in New Jersey. Left, I mean

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across the states, a couple hundred
million dollars in taxes. They're all coming

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here, I mean from California.
They've been going off to Austin, Texas

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mainly. So how are these states
where we came from, New Jersey,

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New York, how are they going
to survive in the future. They have

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to do a massive scaling back,
a massive cutback, or they're waiting for

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another bailout like they got during COVID
from the FETs. Yeah. They look,

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you're dealing with politics Stians who have
no understanding of markets the future.

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To them, it's just like they
need money. We'll just take us,

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turn us upside down and shake everything
out of our pockets. That's about it.

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You know. There's no fiscal responsibility
at all. And that's why the

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federal Reserve is in trouble. All
right. They can raise rates and we

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say, oh gee, that'll make
the stock market go down. It doesn't.

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Why because they raise rates as supposed
to stop us from borrowing. All

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right, does it have any impact
on the government. This is the exact

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opposite. Politicians don't sit there and
say, oh, gee, the Fed

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raised the rates so they want us
to spend less. They don't even pay

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attention, you know. They continue
down their journey spending and spending. And

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because you raise the rates, this
is the first time. Now you're going

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to have interest expenditures for the United
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I remember Ronald Reagan. Everybody got
upset of the national deadhead a trillion

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dollars back then. Now we're talking
about the annual interest rate is a trillion.

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Yeah, it's just absurd, the
whole thing. Yeah, it certainly

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is. So hey AI. We
hear about AI every day. I even

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use it to take notes on my
podcasts and my video cast now, and

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it's a big time saver. Basically, it does eighty percent of the job

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I used to pay somebody to do. Now I do the extra twenty percent

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in a couple of minutes of where
do you see all this ending up?

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Um? Well, it would be
very nice if we've replaced judges and the

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government with a high exactly voice it
can't be bribed, you know. But

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you know, you have to understand, you know, there are some of

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these people that you know, talk
about AI is like, um, some

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major threat like the matrix or something
along those lines. Um. It depends

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entirely upon what you're going to plug
into it. I mean we've been you

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know, I've developed AI, you
know, from the nineteen seventies, and

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our computer is fantastic, but it's
limited to the database that we gave it,

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which is the world financial markets of
all the different countries. It's not

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plugged into the Internet. It's not
going to answer, Gee, what's Lady

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God, God's dog's name or anything
of that that nature. But I mean

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AI, uh, you know what
they're doing, like with the the you

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know, the chat type things.
I mean, it's it's impressive to somebody

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that doesn't really understand the coding behind
it. Um. But you know,

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it's not really as much of a
threat as long as you don't go,

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you know, turning it into as
far as being in charge of stending missiles

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and things of that nature. All
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they're using it with drones now.
You know, one of the alarming things

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I find most alarming about the Ukraine
War is these use of drones where you're

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going along minding your own business and
you know, the thing hits and bum

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you know, basically basically they just
blow you up. And they could do

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these swarms clear out whole cities.
I mean, you know, obviously the

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sociopaths are running everything and nothing is
off the table here Martin, No,

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it's not. I mean that's um
you have to understand. This is why

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they're after Trump so much. And
they also would not allow um, you

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know, Kennedy to come in.
They have control, all right. And

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I mean I've met most of heads
of state, you know, in the

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course of my career. I went
to Marl Largo back in March of twenty

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and it was the first time I
would say that Trump actually impressed me.

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He said that he wanted to pull
the troops out of Afghanistan because he was

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sick and tired of writing letters to
families to say their son died for you

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know, Goden country. And he
actually said, he says, what are

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we doing there? They've been fighting
over boarders for a thousand years. What

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difference, you know, are we
going to make? And you know,

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John Bolden came out. Oh,
this is outrageous. You know, you

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know Bolton would basically invade Canada to
get one rushing. I mean, you

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know, that's basically what they These
people always want war, and both Trump

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and jet and Kennedy or against war. Uh So when Trump, I mean

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that that drone that Iran shot down
was unmanned, and Bolton wanted to launch

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an attack against Iran and Trump said
no, it was an unmanned drone.

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Bottle airplane. Yeah, And he
said, I'm not going to start a

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war because they shot down a drone. But this is what these people want

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to. Trump starts firing these uh
neo cons and as soon as soon as

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Biden came in, they're all back. Victoria Newland is the queen of them.

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I mean, she's the number two
in the State Department. Now you

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just had her loss blinking come out
and I couldn't even believe it. I

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put it on my blog. He
says, well, nuclear war is not

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that really big of a deal.
It's no worse than climate change. I

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mean, I'm like, what,
very well, you're not in the area

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that's targeted, right, I Mean, this is what these people say.

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They just live for war. Honestly, I you know, our computer on

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the twenty twenty four election is it
shows there's no way possible that the Democrats

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could win. Yeah, that's not
something that would stop them though. Hey,

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Martin Wine, I grew up the
Democrats, where the party the anti

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war party, and now you know
they wholly embrace it. And the whole

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military industrial complex is having a field
day at the world's expense or getting rid

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of all the old Russian weapons.
All right, Basically they're all being sent

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to Ukraine to get blown up and
u and then they have to rearm and

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they're not going to buy Chinese weapons, so they're going to buy Western military

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weapons because you know what, the
whole thing makes me realize that the Cold

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War was a complete scam. You
know that Russia we're just really never a

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threat because technologically, yeah, they
could throw waves of people, waves of

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troops, but from a technological standpoint, they were generations behind the West's armament

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cycle. Well, well, I
think basically um NATO is the real threat

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because um and the previous book I
published the plot to decease Russia. When

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I mean the neocons were against Reagan
from even meeting with gorbachof oh, you

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can't trust the Russian and they were
beside themselves and Reagan said, no,

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I'm meeting, you know, and
because I think Russia's falling apart, and

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it was all right, And they
were even proposing at that time that Russia

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joined NATO. I remember, yeah, and um, you know, effectively,

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you know, that ended up being
the coup to take down Gorbach because

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they were afraid that the hardliners didn't
want him joining NATO. And that's basically

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what all that stuff was about.
But you know, NATO has no purpose

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if Russia is not an enemy,
so they have to keep that up no

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matter what it is. You know, they threatened, oh, Russia is

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gonna invade and take all over Europe. The Russian people don't want to do

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that any more than the American people
want to go and invade Russia and occupy

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that country. Those are old days
of empire building. I don't think the

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population on either side are interested in
invading other countries and occupying. That's head

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the states that they do that kind
of stuff. You know, it's the

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concept of cannon fodder kind of came
into the existence late eighteen hundreds when you

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started getting these you know, basically, I guess Napoleon, but the Civil

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War. But you would have thought
we had advanced beyond cannon fodder. But

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that's what these troops on the front
lines of these war of the war are

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their cannon fodder. And they're just
throwing people into the mix. I mean,

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it's yeah, they don't even care, I know, and these are

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like but the people care, the
people whose sons are going out there to

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fight, they care. And you
know, it's I find it really distressing.

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We're in the twenty first century,
we have AI and all these other

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things, and yet we're still blowing
each other up, seemingly for no purpose

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other than perhaps a misguided ideal of
reducing world population. Because when you get

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down to it, they view us
as just a bunch of eaters that take

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up valuable resources and don't really produce
anything. Well, you know, it's

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it's even worse than that. You
take Victoria Newland her families from Ukraine,

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you know, and it's I mean, there's so any conflicts of interest here

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it's absurd. And then you take
the dumb boss. They're all Russias that

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live there. Russia was right up
to the river there of the Tsars before

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USSR. That's why you have so
many Russians living in that area that was

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their country. I have friends here, you know, there's so many Russians

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and Ukrainians in Florida. Oh yeah, I mean friends. You know.

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I can name off probably close to
a dozen people I know from the region.

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The weird thing is, I'll say
to one guy, well, so

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you're Ukrainian. Yeah, I'm Ukrainian, but I grew up in Russia,

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and you know I speak Russian.
Oh you're Russian. Yeah, I'm Russian,

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but I grew up in the Ukraine. And it's like, what's going

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on here? These people? It's
literally like brother killing brother. You know,

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they're all kind of related here,
and just find the whole concept of

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this war, man and man.
The only thing you could say is that

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there's certain segments of the population,
of business, of industry, the military

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industrial complex. They're having a field
day because they get all their weapons destroyed,

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so a new rearmament cycle, and
they get to prove them in the

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battle battle testing, because you know, the observers are there watching to see

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how everything performs. It's exactly like
World War One. If you remember the

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fuses in the artillery shells the English
I think sold off to the Germans their

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munitions companies, and it was a
whole scandal and they just keep leaking it

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to one another to keep the race
going. Well, Martin, I could

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talk to you all day, but
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