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We're back with another edition of the
Federalist Radio Hour. I'm Matt Kittle,

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Senior Elections correspondent at the Federalist and
your experience Shirpa on today's Quest for Knowledge.

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well. I'm joined today by US
Representative Glenn Grothman, Republican, representing Wisconsin's

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fighting sixth Congressional district. The congressman
also is a member of the House's Committee

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on Oversight and Accountability. They had
an eventful day, to say the least

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today, a lot of questions on
Monday for US Secret Service Director Kimberly Cheatle.

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Congressman Growthman, thank you so much
for joining us on this edition of

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the Federalist Radio Hour. Glad to
be on the show. You're right,

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a very long hearing today and an
important hearing. We will delve into that

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momentarily. Before we do, let
me ask you this question, because you're

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in DC, you're in the swamp
right now. This is the question everybody

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wants to know at this hour,
where's Joe Biden. That's a good question.

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Well, now that he knows he's
not running free election, we may

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never see him again. I don't
know. Are you concerned about his health

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at this point? Well, given
his performance in his final debate, you

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have to wonder who is running the
country, And none of people ask that

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question. But obviously he's being coached
as to what to say. You know,

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They'm shure they gave them scripts to
read as far as debata is concerned,

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or whenever he takes a position on
anything. So I think it's a

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question that reporters ought to be asking
more. Assuming Joe Biden does not resign,

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who is running the country for the
next six months? Good question,

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is it, doctor Jill? Well, I don't know. Maybe who knows,

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but it's a good question. Well, we've certainly been to this point

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in US history before. One need
look only at the beginning of the twentieth

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century to see then Democrat President would
Row Wilson absolutely incapacitated in the final days

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of his second term, and his
wife, we know, ran much of

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the day to day operations of the
president that you know clearly stands out at

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this moment with your question, who
is running the executive branch right now?

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And I think over the last three
and a half years, for those who

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paid attention, you know that it
certainly wasn't really Joe Biden. Let's face

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it. This was a guy that
they brought in to be an empty vessel

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in which the Left poured all of
its agenda and its dreams and wishes into

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and he was the figurehead that you
know, performed the duties for them.

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But that is an important question.
If he is not fit to be the

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candidate for the Democrats, how is
he fit to be the president of the

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United States in the interim until a
new president takes over. Well, you're

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exactly right. We don't know who's
writing the show. The show he's obviously

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very well. What can we say
suggestible? Right, I'm sure other people

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can tell him something he'll go along, particularly of doctor Jill. The thing

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is, the United States is a
much more significant country, and being president

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means doing a lot more than when
Missus Wilson ran the country in nineteen twenty.

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Indeed, and the world is watching, which opens the door for all

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kinds of things. And we've already
seen the threats that the United States and

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the people in positions of authority are
subject to We saw that at a campaign

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rally in Pennsylvania more than a week
ago, a Saturday evening, in which

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the former president of the United States
and the GOP's newly nominated candidate for president,

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was nearly assassinated. You and I
spoke about that the night in which

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that took place, after Joe Biden
called for hitting the bullseye. Indeed,

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and that was the kind of rhetoric
that we've been hearing from the Democrats for

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the last eight years in this country. Let's be honest. It has gone

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on since before Donald Trump was elected
the forty fifth president of the United States.

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It went on through his administration,
it went on through the election year

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of twenty twenty, and it's gone
on ever since. They deemed him to

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continue to be a threat. They
couldn't imprison him, they couldn't remove him

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from the ballot. So the real
concern, the rightful concern, is have

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they gone to the last option to
remove the President of the United States.

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Your thoughts as we get to the
hearing on Monday, Well, to be

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honest, I think under normal circumstances, he should be removed. I have

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to say my answer is colored by
my opinion of Kamala Harris, because then

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you make her the president, and
either way it's just so horrible, almost

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beyond belief. But do we want
to make Kamala Harris the president? I

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mean, very erratic behavior. I
can't get along with her staff did nothing

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on the border when being ordered to
do something on the border. So I

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certainly don't want her to be president
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we maybe better off muddling through another
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that question, of course, is
coming up even more so now about the

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succession of Kamala Harris in that one
particular area. You know, as we

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shine a light on that we're hearing
from border Patrol agents today that she has

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yet to reach out to Border Patrol
in terms of her position, so to

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speak, as the borders are.
There are a lot of questions that will

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be coming up in the next several
days about the fitness of Kamala Harris not

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only to lead the Democratic Party but
also to lead this country. But let's

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talk about the Oversight hearing. You
are a member of the Committee on Oversight

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and Accountability. It a lot of
fireworks, a lot of heated moments,

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a lot of very pointed questions about
the Director of US Secret Service, Kimberly

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Cheatle. Your overall takeaway from the
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Republican members and some Democrats as well
at this point is that this Director of

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Secret the Secret Service, it's not
very forthcoming still, and these agencies have

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yet to be forthcoming about what do
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Right? Question after question was thrown
at her again and again. I'm not

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in a position to say that or
be premature to say this, and you

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know, it's been long enough ago
that they've got to know a lot more

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what's going on. But obviously she's
hiding it. Obviously should be fired.

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In so many ways here, they
were completely incompetent. I believe she lied

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twice to me. First of all, I did ask her a question.

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She's one of these people in the
Bide administration who's obsessed with diversity. Her

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goal is to have thirty percent of
the agency women. I asked her about

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that. She denied ever saying like
that, which she is on a record

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as saying. The reason I asked
the question, I'm a little bit afraid.

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One of the reasons for the incompetence
is she spent too much time dealing

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on diversity and not enough time making
sure she was doing a very good job.

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So that's one of my concerns.
Another thing that came out under her,

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maybe before she was there. The
Secret Services of place nobody wants to

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work. It's ranged four hundred and
thirteenth out of four hundred and fifty nine

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federal agencies, and I would think
it's kind of a rewarding place to work,

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but apparently they have a hard time
an getting anybody to work there,

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which is another one of the problems. The other question, though, that

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I asked, we didn't get an
answer to, or you got to lie

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out of her, is it is
a parent A lot of the regular agents

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were not there that day. Is
that a coincidence or is that the reason

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they didn't do a very good job, or is there another reason why they

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wanted the agents most loyal to President
Trump not there that day? They are

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backfilled with other people, but those
of us old enough to remember John Kennedy

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being assassinated, and I've had to
have read ten books on that topic.

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You know, you never know if
you can trust people. Everybody, of

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course, fell over themselves today to
say how much we appreciated what the Secret

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Service did that day, But I
just thought it was illuminating or interesting,

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something that demanded follow up. Why
were the people, the agents who spent

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most of the time with President Biden
not there that day or presumably once,

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like I said, most loyal to
them? So whatever. There were other

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questions that were never at asked.
Who got a decent response out of there

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was a member of local law enforcement
who apparently looked at the shooter, the

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shooter pointed the rifle atomy he ducked
back down, which is how could that

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happen? We watched a film in
which members of the crowd, we're trying

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to screen this guy's got a gone, this guy's gone. Nothing was done.

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So I think we have incompetence right
up and down the Secret Service that

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day, and I hope my chairman
gives us another hearing. May it perhaps

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another two or three weeks the head
of the Secret Service will begin to give

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us some answers. Well, the
question I think that is on the minds

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of America right now is was this
just absolute incompetence? We know this was

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a failure through and through? Was
this just incontinence? Was this just incompetence

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or was it willful? That's the
question that some of your colleagues are asking.

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Representative Anna Paulina Luna tweeted this after
leaving the oversight briefing this morning.

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I'm more convinced than ever that Crooks
wasn't working alone. It's a pretty damning

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statement. What do you think of
that? That statement? Well, like

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I said, I've read a lot
about the Kennedy assassination, and I think

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it's a parent the more you read
about it. The federal government knew a

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lot more, and maybe it was
involved a little bit. It's only by

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the grace of God, this was
not an assassination. We don't have any

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hard evidence at this time other than
to say there were a lot of coincidences.

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Right, she denied it, but
a lot of President Trump's normal detail

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was not there. Well, why
would they be taking people who were most

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weal as President Trump and not having
them there that day? I don't know.

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That's why I'd like to have another
hearing. Other questions that could not

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be answered, When did the rifle
appear in that area? And where was

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it? When did the latter appear
in that area? Where was that hidden?

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We'd like to know these things,
and it was shocking how little she

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professed to know, given that we've
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Yes, alarming a lot of things

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about the hearing, very very alarming. Let me give you a for instance,

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and you've witnessed this first hand,
you can respond to this. I

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appreciate it. But your colleague,
representative Marjorie Taylor Green asking some very direct

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questions of the director Cheetle told Marjorie
Taylor Green this, an individual with a

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backpack is not a threat. An
individual with a rangefinder is not a threat.

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I find those statements interesting because,
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someone with a backpack at a rally
may not be a threat in and of

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itself. But as you all pointed
out at the hearing today, this wasn't

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a one off. This wasn't a
guy with just a backpack. This is

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a guy with a backpack and a
rangefinder, which your colleague on the oversight

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committee representative from Tennessee told me last
week. You have a rangefinder if you

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are out, you have a rangefinder
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titleist that you've lost out on the
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And there wasn't a golf course for
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What did you think of these explanations
from the director? She never really

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gave us a good explanation there other
than kind of implying that there could be

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other reasons to have the range finder, which is a frustrating thing. She

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would not answer questions. A lot
of the time was spent trying to ask

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her to resign, which she refused
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I'd like to have you hearing that
only word she was there, but maybe

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bring back somebody just under her was
maybe a little bit more forth the coming,

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or somebody from the FBI, because
they are certainly leaving things open to

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suspicion of worse going on. And
that's why I think the other Congressman,

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Glenn Growthman, joining us on this
edition of the Federalist Radio Hour. Congressman

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represents the sixth congressional district in Wisconsin. He is also a member of the

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House's Committee Oversight and Accountability. Held
a very important hearing, a lot of

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frustration coming out of that hearing,
not a lot of answers thus far,

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and what we continue to see,
Congressman, is not only the director,

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but the FBI and others not forthcoming, not delivering the information that you've requested.

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That does that continue to be a
problem. Is there any movement on

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that front this hour? Well?
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keep following up and having another hearing. I have not talked to the chairman

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yet, but I mean, this
is one of those things they should be

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talking about in American history. One
hundred years from now, right, this

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was almost on pop or the most
significant assassination in American history, next to

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Abraham Lincoln himself. So I don't
think it's a matter like a regular hearing

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when the administration Bob's and Weeds doesn't
give the straight answers, just kind of

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time marches on. We've got to
demand these answers to what the genuine facts

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are. But even as I look
another colleague on the other side of the

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aisle, Representative Alexandria Acassio Cortes,
who certainly is no friend of Donald Trump,

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certainly no friend of conservatives and Republicans
in Congress, but even she stressed

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at the hearing that the idea that
a report from this agency would not be

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forthcoming for two months is beyond the
pale. I would assume you too are

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not satisfied with no. This is
being no, not at all. You

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should have checked your interview and found
out how quickly some of the people who

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tried to assassinate Abraham Lincoln were even
executed. I mean, here they take

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some two weeks for a report.
You know why. Now they have more,

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they have more of his social media
profile. They've got to right now,

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not to mention more information as to
how this guy got the gun so

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close to the roof, how he
got the ladder so close to the roof

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right, So many questions left unanswered, and I would think within the next

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couple of weeks they should know so
much more. You said that Director Secret

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Service Director Kimberly Cheedle should be fired, should resign. Do you think she

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should be behind Barns Well, not
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an incompetent affirmative action higher what she
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way, but that's what I took
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affirmative action hider. Are you concerned
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Let's have a little background here,
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Cheatle, of course, as has
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First Lady Jill Biden. In fact, she worked on the security detail for

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Jill Biden when Joe Biden was Vice
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same time, we hear that the
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of the Secret Service agents to redeploy
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an event that was relatively nearby where
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president. That is a concern in
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knowing how close these two individuals were
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because the people who may have been
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right. I mean, there are
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Trump, and we're going to have
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appears to me like the people who
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because obviously there's been one bombshell event
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think that the country is reeling right
now with so much we use this we

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overuse this word, but these truly
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Joe Biden has dropped out of the
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us put it this way. We
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he has dropped out of the race, an announcement that was made on Twitter

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or the former Twitter now known as
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the president. We've been told that
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As of this recording, we don't
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president will be showing up live.
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the president ostensibly endorsing the vice president. Some are very happy about that,

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others aren't. Where does all of
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the Republicans approach the next three plus
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I said, as far as President
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I think Kamala Harris is so scary. People will talk about trying to

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constitutionally remove President Biden, but I
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I think of greater concern is,
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Democrat nominee for president, and she
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by her own staff, assigned to
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nothing radical weft woin Liberal. They
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candidate. I personally have met Democrats
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and feel that if they can hang
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Democrat convention, that they can knock
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Now it's interesting for your listeners to
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this situation in the first place.
Earlier, when I talked about the assassination

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attempt, I talked about the degree
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is a firm believer in affirmative action. She's going out of the way,

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or claim to be going out the
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like always of affirmative action, it
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as you normally would want. And
do you think we have I mean,

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I think the events, the events
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you think that we have incompetence driven
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for a result will be part of
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But it's the affirmative action. The
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right. The reason they're in a
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she's a woman of color, right, And they're open about it. They

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didn't even fight it. Right at
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and they said to themselves, because
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have to have a woman of color. So that's why Biden said as much.

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Right right, it's not even pretending
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is the most qualified woman. They
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in a straight jacket and say we
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of color. Well, okay,
now they're here. Now she's no longer

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going to be vice president. We're
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for the final six months or getting
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an impossibility. And I hope the
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got our vice president. All across
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medical, field, manufacturing, and
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base of confidence, but on the
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form. And it really makes me
respect President Trump. And then when he

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picked a vice president this time,
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best for the job. He said, I'm going to pick the guy who

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would make the best president if something
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he happened to be a white guy, and the fact that he happened to

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come from a state that's probably going
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President Trump. He says, I'm
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I'm going to take the best guy
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ago I did the opposite. His
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well, I don't care at all, but to a degree, it's not

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as important to me as to whether
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where I can stand up by the
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I've got a woman of color,
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to support that fact. And I
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again, you mentioned that JD.
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It's not the calculus of the campaign
does not require representation necessarily from from

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Ohio. Trump, as has been
talked about, could have certainly picked someone

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from one of the swing states,
maybe someone from Wisconsin, perhaps right.

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A lot of people talked about a
young kid from Virginia to put Virginia in

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pleasure, young, a wonderful guy
like his name. But Trump said,

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you know, he is not who
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So I'm not going to pick it. Even exactly in the right pick politically.

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is not from a state that Joe
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You don't get any bluer than California. She came with all kinds of

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warts as a candidate, driven home
by the fact that she was what the

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first one out in the twenty twenty
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I think that's absolutely clear. But
to your broader point, the whole

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Biden Harris push in the last three
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push in that administration, has been
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sometimes as we have seen quite frankly, to the peril of getting the job

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done in the case at the highest
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and the people who were there to
see him campaign. We don't have much

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time left. I wanted to ask
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the election integrity issues for a very
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You're Senator in Wisconsin told me this
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is going to be, Senator Ron
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Kamala Harris. When the day is
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the Democrats obviously shifting to talk about
just how wonderful Kamala Harris is, how

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articulate she is, how visionary she
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but they don't care about reality.
The ultimate issue here that we've seen

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in this country for several years is
it doesn't necessarily matter who the candidate is

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on the left, it matters who's
running the elections. Are you concerned that

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the Biden Bucks that we've talked about
the use of federal agencies to work a

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get out the vote effort for Joe
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whoever his replacement will be, will
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be humming even more in these next
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remember the winner of the election to
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not going to come down to the
so called undecided votes. It's going to

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come down to turn out and getting
people to turn out who normally don't vote,

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Marginal people who may not be familiar
with the issues but can be told

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particular an era in which we expect
so many absentee ballots. It can be

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suggested to them who they should vote, and I'm sure the Democrats are going

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to do all they can to get
everybody out to vote in both Dane and

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Milwaukee County, including people who really
don't care that much. But we've got

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to make sure we get the working
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over time more and more, the
Republican Party is the party of the

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working man. We've got to make
sure we get our people out. Yes,

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I am concerned. I don't like
absent de balloting. I've fought it

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all the way through. But when
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got to worry if some people were
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the plan is, and that is
a big concern. I spent part of

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the weekend in Mantua County, wonderful, super conservative county and like most counties,

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filled with people who work for a
living. It's overwhelming a Republican But

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for us to win that election,
we're going to have to turn out all

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the working people, because the Democrats
will do what they can to turn out

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the non working people. In my
opinion, now, how much more difficult

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election integrity will it be knowing that
in Wisconsin, one of the key swing

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states, you have a left led
Supreme Court that recently said there's no problem

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with unmanned absentee ballot drop boxes right
for example, and that leaves an opening

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to me. Of course, you
have the same thing happen if you mail

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by a post office. But I
think it is more of an obvious invitation

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to have marginal people vote if you
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your ballot. So final question is
the Republican Party in Wisconsin and nationally,

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are they truly committed to doing what
the Democrats have done, beating them at

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their own people. They're putting more
money into it, They're hiring more people.

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I think we're going to be in
better shape than last time in Wisconsin.

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Were no longer going to have the
foolish rule that you have people voting

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in nursing homes, so without having
a representative of both party president, so

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that regard will be in better shape. I think we're in better shape than

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we were four years ago. In
perfect shape. No, I think you're

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always going to have a problem when
you have so many absentee ballots. Let's

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face it, if Vladimir Putin got
re elected in an election, and you

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heard the eighty percent of the ballots
for absentee, What would you think we've

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got to deal with absentee ballots?
Very good, sir, Thanks to my

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guest today, Congressman Glenn Grothman from
Wisconsin's fighting sixth Congressional district, also a

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member of the very important, high
profile House Committee on Oversight and Accountability,

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trying to get to the bottom of
get answers to the many questions that we

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all have about the attempted assassination against
former President Donald Trump. You've been listening

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to another edition of the Federalist Radio
Hour. I'm Matt Kittle, senior correspondent

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at the Federalist. We'll be back
soon with more. Until then, stay

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lovers of freedom and anxious for the
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