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It's Tuesday. You know what that
means. It's time for ignition with the

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a W Fan podcast team. This
is Kelson and this is Alex and we

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are we are now leaving Forbidden Door
season. We had the Forbidden Door.

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Yeah, we had Forbidden Door three. I think it's arguably the best Forbidden

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Door show they've done. I know
this is the first Forbidden Door show you

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watched, Kelson, so you know
it's definitely the best Forbiden Door I've seen.

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Mm hmmm. Yeah. I think
it's undeniable, very undeniable. It's

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truthful. Yeah. I thought it
was a good show. Definitely not the

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best aw pay per view they've ever
done, but it was pretty strong.

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I think it was better than you
know, World's End, better than the

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last show they did. I can't
remember what that was. Uh yeah,

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I kind of liked it better than
double or nothing. I didn't think it

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just myself. But I'm not saying
it was bad. I'm just saying I

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didn't think it was close. I
think it left me with a better taste

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in my mouth. Oh yeah,
I ordered Osmo's. I don't know if

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you have that in the States.
It's like Rice and Trauma, so Yeah,

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that was the taste that I had
in my mouth. Anyways, I

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think we want to each talk about
our favorite moments for Forbidden Door and try

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not to repeat each other. But
I'm gonna lead with what I thought was

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definitely the best match of the night
from Forbidden Door, which was the main

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event Swerve and Osprey. I just
thought, you know, Swerve, he's

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had you know, four or five
maybe six matches since being the champion,

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like some world title eliminator matches,
and he had his main event, not

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mean event, but he had matches
on the previous pay per views against Christian

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Cage, and he had his match
where he won the title vers of Samoa

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Joe. I just think we never
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everything that Swerve can do. Yeah, and in a lot of ways,

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Will Osprey is like the perfect guy
because he can do everything, and Serve's

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a guy that can do everything.
Like, they're strong, they're fast,

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they can do every high flying move, their offense can look brutal. Yeah,

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they compliment each other perfectly, really
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kind of nervous going into this match
that it wouldn't be everything that because they

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had a you know, a big
shoes to fill with this match, and

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I was worried that they wouldn't be
able to fill those shoes. But boy

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was I wrong. You know,
my worries not that I was wrong,

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but I was wrong to worry.
But it that way because I thought they

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would. Yeah, I think you
really don't know what kind of chemistry they're

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gonna have together. Obviously their friends
and they've had matches before aw together,

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but that's like a long long time
ago. I don't know if you ever

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saw the video of them having their
dance off. Uh No, I saw

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that. Wait. I gave up
watching Dancing Dancing with the Wrestlers a few

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years ago. Actually, m this
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years of Dancing with the Wrestlers.
My wife kept asking me, do I

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think they're going to recreate the dance
off? And I said, maybe they'll

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hint at it, but I don't
think they'll go full dance off in their

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match, and probably for the best
that they didn't. But yeah, that

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was definitely my favorite match. I
thought it was definitely the strongest match of

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the evening. There's a couple other
things that were very good, but yeah,

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I want to hear your guys' thoughts
on what your favorite moments and matches

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were. If somebody else, go
ahead, because I will wrap it up

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because I think I'm going to say
something that maybe you guys don't say.

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So wants to go next to your
favorite match or your favorite moment of the

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night. Okay, my favorite match
was also the Swerve Osprey match, and

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a very close second to that is
that ladder match that went on. But

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really, okay, yeah, I
was surprised I enjoyed the Ladder match.

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I didn't think I would, and
I ended up really liking it with the

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the Swerve Osprey match. Not only
did I like the match itself, I

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liked the I guess it's the storytelling
within the match. I liked that they

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at the end it seemed that they
were still friends. I like the fact

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that Swerve kissed Osprey. I think
that that was a very close moment between

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them and it was nice to see. And as far as the ladder match

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goes, I liked Harry coming out
with his goat's head. I thought that

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was the coolest thing ever. I
haven't seen Briscoe quite be himself like he

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was in that match. I think
he really brought his a game there.

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It's unfortunate that Leo Rush got injured. I'm not sure exactly when or how

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he got injured, but that that
was a sad part. But that's my

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that's my top match there. That
you mentioned the ladder match, not that

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I felt like it was a bad
match, but there were so many other

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good things that I'm really happy that
you brought that match up because I really

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do think it deserves your accolades.
Yeah, I just want to add,

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like they've had a lot of ladder
matches on pay per views, especially the

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big multi mennes, this was definitely
the best. But yeah, I always

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feel like filler matches usually, but
this one really really brought it I thought,

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so, Yeah, I agree,
See I kind of don't. I

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didn't. That was one of my
least favorite matches. I didn't think it

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was. It wasn't that it wasn't
a good match. It to me,

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it just seemed short. It didn't
seem to go as long as their ladder

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matches sometimes ago. I don't know
what it was. I think it went

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any longer they would all die To
go vote what was your favorite though match

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or moment? Favorite moment? The
other night was when Calus got knocked on

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his ass by Prince Nana. That
was the best part of the whole life.

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I loved that. I was like, go ahead, and I'm sitting

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there jumping up and down on the
cotch. Go go ahead and on and

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kick his ass and then he stuff. I was like, man, but

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I didn't really have a match that
was like I mean, the final match

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was great. I gotta agree with
and Alex on that, but I didn't

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really have a match that like stood
out over any of the others. I

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thought they were all good matches that
they just I didn't see anything spectacular.

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But yeah, I mean I can
understand that. I mean, to each

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their own, honestly. I mean, you're a fan. You're watching the

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show. Uh, some stuff you
can see his spectacular sub stuff you can

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say is ball right? Some stuff
you just don't like, and you know,

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and that's be what a fan is. I mean, if you're a

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baseball fan, you may be like, this guy sucks. The pitcher sucks,

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you know, but he doesn't suck. He's a professional. You just

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think you just don't like what he's
doing. Maybe ever, or maybe that

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particular night. So let me go
move I will share what my favorite moment

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is and it's gonna be a little
bit different, maybe a little long.

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And I apologize in advance for this, but I think it's I think it

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really needs to be said. My
favorite moment is to show respect. There

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were a couple of reports made by
Fight Fightful and I think for Wrestling Insider,

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and I apologize if I got that
wrong, but specific I want to

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make three points here. First point
was will Osprey against Swerve Strickland. Will

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Osprey reportedly came up with the idea
for that match because he thought it was

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important that Swerve Strickland wasn't seen as
a placeholder waiting for you know, Osprey

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did come and beat him, you
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the end of the match, as
NETS said, there was a huge show

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of respect between the two wrestlers,
Swerve kissed will Osprey. Will Osprey worked

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his ass over to put Swerve over, not taking anything away from Swerve either

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because he worked his ass off too. The second one that I want to

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talk about is Mercedes Monet and Stephanie
Vacker. There was a report that Mercedes

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Monee went into that match with the
goal of making Stephanie Stephanie Vacker, and

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he did. I mean a lot
of people were saying throughout the match and

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after the match, how great Stephanie
Vacker looked. He did. She looked

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great, She was smooth, she
was fluid. Everything she did hit one

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right after the other and it seemless
fat. But you know who deserves a

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lot of credit for that is Mercedes
Monet. Mercedes Monet, and because he

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was in the right places at the
right time, and she made Stephanie Vacker

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look as good as Stephanie Vacker deserved
the look. And I want to give

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Mercedes Monet a lot of credit for
that because Mercedes Monett and Stephanie Vacker both

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put on an excellent match, not
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They both did the third thing and
the last thing that I wanted to point

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out is and again I have to
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Mercedes Monet just won the TBS title
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and she allowed Grit Baker to have
that moment and to me, you

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heard the crowd reaction her. I
mean, it was a special moment and

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Mercedes was did not have to do
that and I think that just proved to

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me that Mercedes is an a w
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wants to do what's best for a
W at having Britt Baker come out at

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that precise moment was best for a
W And I just loved it and that

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those are my that's my best moments
of the night. Yeah, And I

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just want to add, like Stephanie
Becker, she looked like the best women's

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wrestler, even one of the best
wrestlers periods. She was so good.

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She liked a female will Osprey.
It was beauty. I was literally thought

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that that was just beautiful. Yeah. And the real audience turned against Mercedes

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Monette because she was so undeniable and
and the fact that, like you know,

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Mercedes lost and that would have just
killed the crowd. But the fact

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that Britt showed up right after it
was just so perfect. So if you

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think of Mercedes Monette doing everything she
can to make Stephanie look like that sets

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up that moment to be so much
more impactful. Like, yeah, I

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think she deserves all the credit in
the world. I don't know if like

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her kip up when they both did
the kip up. If Mercedes mone purposely

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did it worse than Stephanie Vacker to
make Stefan, I don't think she did,

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but it made it work. Maybe
she did, Maybe she did,

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but it worked. You know.
It's weird because after the match, Mercedes

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Monett, you know, said something
that actually turned off a lot of people.

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And what she said was and I'm
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work because I don't know if it
Basically what she said is that she had

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creative control. Well, you know
what, if she had creative control,

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so what she did it right?
She got that that match was right.

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Mercedes should have won. The belt
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and she didn't just win, she
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time. I don't know. I
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that, you know, I really
don't. So anyway, let's let's move

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on. That was interesting. I
enjoyed everybody's So let's I want to talk

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a little bit about the The Drunken
Cowboy. You know, there was a

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vignette on what was a collision.
They showed the vignette. Yeah, and

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uh, it was interesting. There
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really saw that kind of you know, stood out. One was that,

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you know, of course Hagman was
drinking. The other was that his house

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was completely empty, like his wife
left him and took everything, you know

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what, you know what I mean. So I mean, but the other

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thing is is that tomorrow night on
Dynamite we've got Jeff Jared against the wild

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Card is the wild Card Hangman and
him page? What do you guys think?

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I didn't see the big yet.
It sounds very interesting. It's only

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thirty eight seconds long or something like
that, but it's really cool. Uh

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there's no there are no words.
Uh, it's literally it's just literally black

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and white scenes and they don't show
they don't really show Hangman's face either,

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but you know it's him. Yeah. Sure, been a lot more than

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vignette than I did. All I
got was the teeth the shirt at the

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end to make you knew who it
was. Other than that, I didn't

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really pay I guess I really didn't
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I just knew that they were setting
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So yeah, yeah, I don't
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I can't you know we had talked
about it before when we said Rob van

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Dam we had people we'd like to
see as the wildcard. But I don't

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see how you have anybody else but
Hangman. Yeah. I mean, let's

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face it. If Hangman is the
wild card and they're setting him up to

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join the elite and they want him
to be a heel, what better way

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to be a heel tod to come
in and claw, do whatever you have

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to do to be Jeff Jared,
who just did that magnificent vignette of his

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own about Heart and his friendship with
on Heart, right, I just I

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don't know. I loved it.
I thought it was awesome. It said

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a lot about Jeff Jarrett. And
I've never really been a Jarrett fan.

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I mean, he's been around forever, but he's never really been He's always

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played that bad guy to me.
He's always been a bad guy, and

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it is with the guitar. Yeah, And I've never really I mean,

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his original character when he was doing
the stuff in WWE, when he had

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was his name as the roadie,
that was pretty good. But after that

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I kind of moved away from him. But I don't know, to me,

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I don't think that even though it
was as tear, it was as

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feeling invoking and as strongly done,
and I can get where he's coming from,

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and I'm you know, that was
very powerful. I don't know if

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it's gonna be enough for people TwixT
spect him to do do better than the

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first round. I really don't think
that people are gonna expect that. Well.

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I will tell you. We did
make a post about it on aw

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fat ub subreddit and Greatness of Wrestling's
subreddit, and you be shocked at how

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many people are like, oh,
we need Jeff Jarrett to win this thing.

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I mean they're really behind him.
I mean it really is. He

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really have been yet really, you
know, get home with a lot of

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people and it was so sod its
purpose and comes up beats his ass.

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Yes, it's gonna piss off people, and that's what you want story.

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Yeah, I think it's gonna be
great if that's what it is. I

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just hope that's what it is.
And we ain't making this, you know

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what I mean, because we always
had this idea what we think is gonna

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happen, and a lot of times
lately we ain't been right. So who

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knows. I hope it's I hope
that it's definitely Adam Paige. That would

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be well, you know, we
just saw repentago On forbid him out,

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man, don't count him out.
I'm telling you well, he got he

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he he was injured. He told
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that he was going and he was
finally came back and he was he was

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not injured going entrepreneur, he was, he said, I quote, I'm

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ready to power bound power bombs some
people, you know, which means you

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know, he's an idiot. That
means he's fully back. He's missing,

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he's missing his other half though,
come on, I mean, oh God,

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put for for Mino when she's in
Japan. But anyway, uh,

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let's get back to the Hangman vignette. Anybody else have any anything to say

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about this? Yeah, go ahead, man. Oh, I was just

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gonna say, I'm excited that it's
him. I think it's him. I

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think the possibility of him coming back
is fantastic. I've wanted to see Adam

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be bad for quite a while,
so I think he's going to have a

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fantastic run at this. And I
think there's no way to make people hate

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him more than have him beat up
on this nice, kind friendly Jeff Jarrett.

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So I'm excited to see it.
That's nice. I'm really excited.

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I think Hangman left, you know, as basically ninety heel, so I

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am excited to see him come back. Hangman's always been like the guy kind

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of like Cody Rhodes back in the
day when he was in AW. He's

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like such a white meat babyface character
for so long that I've always wow,

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Yeah, I've always seen Hangman as
the quintessential good guy character, and I

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think he's been that for most of
his time in ae W. Yeah,

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I can see that, yeah,
and it's always kind of you know,

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it's just it's a guy that I've
loved to hate. I respect his wrestling

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ability, and you need guys like
that. But I think he's really gonna

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be He's really gonna win me over
heel Hangman here, So I'm excited.

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There's an outside chance in my mind
that the wild Card, because it's been

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established that the wild Card is joining
up with the Elite, I think he's

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gonna be like the fifth members.
While the Elite said that they were the

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ones that are bringing this wild card
in, were they not yeah, I

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believe so saw makes perfect sense that
it's hang Man. Yeah, and I

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think there could be a swerve in
there. No pun intended that that it's

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Ricky Starks, because I just think
he would fit with the elite. He's

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been m I A and he could
be the main event guy, like the

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guy chasing the world title in that
group. If they're trying to confuse people,

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uh yeah, go in the less
likely direction, then then it could

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be Ricky Starks. But yeah,
it's probably gonna be. It'll be great.

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Now let me let me let me
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to hear from net and Sutton on
this. If it is Ricky Starks,

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positive or negative? Mm hmm.
I think positive. I like Ricky.

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I think he has some unfinished business
himself. It would be a good,

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a good trick to play on the
fan. And I think that it doesn't

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mean that Hangman isn't coming back.
He's just not there right now. That

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doesn't mean he won't show up somewhere
at some point, so I can I

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can deal with Ricky. Okay,
either way, I think it would be.

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It's it's gonna be. They're gonna
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being, I don't think it's gonna
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Yeah, I mean, for me, Ricky Starks is I would just look

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at it as a dive store hangman
page. So I'm serious, I would

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be that disappointed because I nothing,
Ricky Starks just doesn't have the star power

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that hangman page does to me.
I mean not even close. Yeah,

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I mean that's fair. He has
not reached that level. He's not the

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main event guy. Yeah, and
I think he could maybe be there,

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but definitely not there. Yet.
Another reason for not wanting Ricky Starks there

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because Ricky Starks is cursed. Wait
and simple, anything that he touches,

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you know, somebody gets injured or
they get suspended or whatever. So I

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don't want one of these guys to
get injured or suspended. Keep Ricky Starks

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away from them. Yeah yeah,
I mean, I mean that's kind of

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a stupid, funny kind of thing
I did there. But it's kind of

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a truth too because Rickey Starks it
did a promo about it. It's like,

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what the hell is going on?
And every time he gets into something,

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you know, somebody gets you know, it gets put the back burner

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or whatever. But anyway, So, Alex, what do you want to

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talk about next? Well, sorry, I just want to go one more

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thing about Hangman here. So I
think if he is the guy, he's

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probably gonna win and go on to
blooding guts against Team Swerve with Team lead,

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and then probably main event all in
against Swerve again. Well, I

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totally forgot about a lot of guts. Yeah, I mean, Swerve makes

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a lot more sense as the leader
of the opposition team if you have Hangman

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there as part of the elite,
right anyway, interesting, Yeah, good

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point. I guess that takes the
store. Next point, we're discussing the

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owen Hart Tourney. I wonder if
you guys have any thoughts on ways that

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you see this playing out. You
see brand Danielson winning, do you see

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Hangman winning? Jeff Jarrett, I
really don't know. I don't know where

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they're going with this one. Yeah, don't for that. There's also the

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women's going heart too, yes,
yeah, uh, well we kind of

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already knew who's winning that. Who
do you think, Mariah? I mean,

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it's perfectly just. The design for
the Wembley Battle is for her versus

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uh and and and after the after
the Women's world title match. I don't

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think Nina's going anywhere yet. I
think they're gonna do a little to be

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to be a weird way to say, but they're gonna have a little three

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way action there for a little while, and then at the end if the

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when they they have the it's gonna
come down to her and uh when Tony

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and Mariah and uh Mariah may are
gonna end up battling for it at Wembley

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and hopefully that'll be the changing of
the guard. And I think Mina is

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still gonna have something to do with
it. Well me and I'm just breaking

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in here. Mina did do a
a interview earlier today or yes late yesterday

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as she was returning to Japan,
and her quote was, I'm not giving

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up on the aw Women's World Championship. I won't let this be the end.

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That was Mina Shark Kallan. Yeah. And when she first came in,

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didn't she say something about how she
was there, something to along the

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lines of I'm here now and this
is where I want to be or something

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like that. I can't say.
I know she said I'm here to stay.

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Yeah, So I have a feeling
she's gonna work between the two,

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which is good. And she has
been in Japan, and in Japan she's

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been expressing to the other wrestlers.
You know that the other wrestlers are jealous

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of her because she's not only a
star in Japan, she's also a star

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in America. Now that's about burfy
too. I can just see that.

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Oh yeah, she's been a real
pain in the ass in Japan. I

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convent. But on the men's side, I don't know. The men's side,

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it's there's there's. I don't think
there really is a clear cut winner

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in my mind yet, because Pack
could be there, Danielson could be there,

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Hangman could be there. I mean, who's the I don't remember who

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the other one is now kay wait
yeah, I mean the men's side is

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loaded, and the men's side is
really not telegraphed. M hm. And

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I think with with with with all
of them, you, I mean Pack,

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Pack has the ability to because he's
English, so that would be the

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reason for him to be at all
Man. Danielson could get a chance to

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get the aw world title at there, and then with Hangman they have the

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rivalry. So I think it's gonna
come down to one of those three.

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No, I agree, and uh, it's as I said just now,

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they did not telegraphed it. I
mean last year on the podcast when they

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were doing the Owen Hart, we
all picked Ricky Stark and who won?

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Ricky Starks from the get go when
they did the Continental Cup tournament. Uh,

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do you all picked Eddy Kingston and
Eddie Kingston won? I mean it

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was telegraphed. The men's side is
not telegraphed. And I'm wondering if this

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Mariah May is not going to win
the women's side and see what happens there.

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I mean it could be really interesting. Yeah, but what else?

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What does anybody else think about this? I think Yeah, for the women's

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side, I could definitely see Chris
Statlander there, she's done her heel turn.

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I think it'd be an interesting title
feud. They could keep Mariah May

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and Tony together a little bit longer, fighting the Chris Statlander together. And

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then if they do go with Mariah
May, I'm curious what you guys think

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what that match would be like leading
up to it? Are we gonna have

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Mariah May and Tony Phil as friends? Kind of like what we saw last

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year with m JF and Adam Cole
or would it they they've fully turned on

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each other and they're they're coming at
each other. It's throats. I believe

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it would be Tony. I think. I think if it comes down to

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that that that scenario, I think
Tony's gonna flip out. I just see

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that being her, the way they
turn that and and have her go completely

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off the deep end. And that's
why I said, you know, with

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Mina still being around, that's that's
where I could see that going. I

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would love to see stat Lander get
a shot because she deserves it just as

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much. But then you can't for
you can't if they're not gonna let Mariah

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win it, you can't roll out
Sheeta either. Oh but like I said,

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it does seem like they're telegraphing it
to Mariah. That may be a

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swerve. This is true. Yeah, So now I mean, what are

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you what are your thoughts about this? I don't see Tony and Mariah ending

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their friendship anytime soon. Hey,
I think that they're there to stay.

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So, but I can't call it
with the women's side of the the Owen

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Heart, I don't know what about
what about the men's what do you?

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What are you feeling with the men's
I'm actually kind of feeling like Jeff Jarrett

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might win it really okay, Yeah, I kind of do something about it.

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Just tells me he's he's gonna dig
deep and really call on his friendship

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with Owen and and just you know, this is going to be his last

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big hurrah and he's just going to
surprise us all and be a mid event

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at all in it Wembley. He's
going to go through everybody and just do

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it all one last time. Wow, yeah, I think so what part

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of me you think does that's cool
idea? The other party is like,

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oh god no, I can't help
but think that way that this is this

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is Jeff Jareded's big moment in time, and he's just he's just going crazy

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for it. So the good thing
is is that Jeff Jared could have been

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just this random guy put in the
tournament to eat a loss, but now

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he's not. And so that's good
booking. Yeah yeahs, And then that's

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not such good booking. That's the
bad part. I mean literally, because

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with what his big yet was,
whoever beats him is going to be a

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heel more so than he was before. Yeah, And I really love that

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it's for the title. It makes
it a lot like if it wasn't,

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if it was just for the owen
Hart Cup, than sure Jeff Jarrett could

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win theoretically, but him having yeah, the main event match hit all In

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versus Swerve or something, I don't
think that's gonna sell tickets. Yeah,

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they might get they might get everyone
behind him. Jeff jan he was running

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wild. Yeah, he would definitely
over the next several weeks, he would

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definitely have to work his ass off
to get that buy for for all In

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because currently, you know, and
I mean no disrespected Jeff Jarrett at all,

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because he's been doing this for a
long time for a reason. But

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I don't I can't see people saying
to each other, I don't know if

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I'm going to buy all In at
the pay buy all In pay per view,

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what and you're gonna miss the Jeff
Jarrett versus First Tricklet match. Oh

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yeah, I gotta buy it now. I just don't. Country Music versus

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Rap Music the Ultimate Battle, Oh
my god, it's just so much that

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you'd have to see it. If
he made it that far, you'd have

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to see what he was going to
do. No, because no, because

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no, because no, No,
that would just be too many Cringey matches

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all in, too many Cringey matches. It all in, oh boy.

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But anyway, you look, you're
trying to sell out the crowd again.

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You want to make all In the
biggest thing going again, and that is

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definitely not going to do it.
Yeah, okay, I do think Park

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there's a story there just because he's
British and it could be huge him competing

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for the world title, Brian Danielson, him gaving his last chance. But

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I'm kind of seeing him maybe in
a match with Nigel McGinnis. I have

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my fingers crossed if Nigel still just
has some wrestling ability in there. I

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saw the same idea come up,
but I also think that the other idea

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I saw about that makes better sense. They were talking about having uh working

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it up through for Nigel to go
up against him at the World's end at

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the end of the year as the
retirement match. I just don't see Nigel

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in the ring again. I don't
know. I just can't see it.

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I thought he couldn't wrestle anymore.
Well, he has a hepatitis is a

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b or see one of the less
I don't know, abc D whatever,

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Z. I don't know, but
you know, it's just too much of

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a risk. It's too much of
a risk, especially when you're talking about

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all in, when you've got to
go into However, here's something that I

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wanted to point out about Forbidden Door, which is relatable to what we were

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just talking about. There was no
blading at all and Forbidden Door. So

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there may been the occasional busted lip
or whatever, but there was no blading.

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It was a blood free pay per
view, So maybe they can pull

405
00:35:30.159 --> 00:35:35.360
it off. But I just think
that they would be wrestling with kid gloves,

406
00:35:35.559 --> 00:35:43.880
you know, maybe they'll just have
Danielson versus versus Nigel McGinnis and a

407
00:35:47.360 --> 00:35:55.719
yeah, in the massive pull noodle
pull doodle fight. Yeah, there you

408
00:35:55.760 --> 00:36:01.960
go. I mean your boot bling. I just don't see a real bets.

409
00:36:02.880 --> 00:36:08.800
But however, what I could see
happening uh tomorrow night. And this

410
00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:15.559
is kind of a spicy prediction.
If if Nigel is in the crowd,

411
00:36:15.800 --> 00:36:22.039
in the in the crowd or at
the announcing stable, what if Nigel pauses

412
00:36:22.320 --> 00:36:30.360
Danielson the match? Yeah, I
mean because during Forbidden Door. I don't

413
00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:34.920
know if you caught this Nigel was
saying during the Danielson match that nobody wants

414
00:36:34.960 --> 00:36:37.559
to see Brian Daniels to get injured, and then he paused for a second

415
00:36:37.639 --> 00:36:45.119
he said, I take that back. So so that made that little word

416
00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:49.519
there, that little sentence there may
allude to the fact that something would happened

417
00:36:49.559 --> 00:36:54.800
between how somebody needs to stop Daniel
Center saving from himself. Yeah. So

418
00:36:54.800 --> 00:37:02.679
so it's it's it's very it's very
interesting. How you know. Alex said

419
00:37:02.679 --> 00:37:06.920
it earlier that this was probably the
best forbidden door that they've had, and

420
00:37:06.960 --> 00:37:10.039
it was. But they also did
something this time I think different than in

421
00:37:10.159 --> 00:37:16.519
past is they actually got some stuff
coming out of it. They actually did

422
00:37:16.920 --> 00:37:22.800
a lot of storytelling that will last
after it through the pay per view that

423
00:37:22.840 --> 00:37:27.679
they usually don't do with that.
Yeah, like that, and then you

424
00:37:27.719 --> 00:37:30.400
know that's just something that you don't
usually see from a pay per view.

425
00:37:31.000 --> 00:37:38.559
Yeah, yeah, I will say
this, with the storytelling, I hated

426
00:37:38.559 --> 00:37:47.239
the Mina Shiri Kaala Mariah May and
Tony Storm ending that. But anyway,

427
00:37:49.079 --> 00:38:00.199
let's move on. I want to
talk about, well, there's someffective aw

428
00:38:00.559 --> 00:38:07.559
signings out there. Ricochet. Do
you probably pronounced is it d Jack or

429
00:38:07.639 --> 00:38:15.320
die Jack I don't even know,
okay, and there's Mason Mansour. Uh.

430
00:38:15.320 --> 00:38:20.239
Some of them actually bed backstage at
different shows. Die Jack was at

431
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:25.119
Forbidden Door backstage. Reportedly Ricochet is
good friends with Will Osprey, who's been

432
00:38:25.880 --> 00:38:31.199
really uh campaigning to have Ricochet brought
in. Uh, Mason Mansor, I

433
00:38:31.239 --> 00:38:37.480
believe we're backstage at least I think
Mansour was. Uh. So what are

434
00:38:37.480 --> 00:38:42.840
your thoughts. I mean, some
people are saying that the aw roster is

435
00:38:42.840 --> 00:38:46.159
a little bit too bloated. We're
also hey, you can also add the

436
00:38:46.280 --> 00:38:53.559
MotorCity machine Guns to that list,
but keep in mind Mason Mansor, MotorCity

437
00:38:53.599 --> 00:38:59.360
machine Guns. These are tag teams. We've just been talking last week about

438
00:39:00.119 --> 00:39:05.119
the w TAC Team division. They
need some new blood. I think that

439
00:39:05.159 --> 00:39:08.000
would be good. So what are
your thoughts about this? Okay, So,

440
00:39:08.199 --> 00:39:12.599
somebody remind me about who d Jack
is. I'm not sure who he

441
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:17.880
is. He's the guy that was
on NXT, wasn't he Yeah, he

442
00:39:17.960 --> 00:39:22.800
was on n XT. He he
was in he was in the Ring of

443
00:39:22.840 --> 00:39:28.760
Honor briefly before that for a few
years. I he the big german guy.

444
00:39:29.639 --> 00:39:32.320
I think he's like Polish or or
something. But yeah, he's not.

445
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:37.000
He's not Walter or No, no, no, I know. I

446
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:38.880
know who he is in because because
I was thinking they already had he.

447
00:39:39.079 --> 00:39:47.440
He has some history with I can
never remember his name. Don't talk about

448
00:39:47.480 --> 00:39:53.800
him. He was actually with Prince
back in Ring of Honor before he went

449
00:39:53.840 --> 00:39:59.480
to ww E in n X team
Okay, did not know that. Yeah,

450
00:39:59.480 --> 00:40:04.280
and he had rivalry with the big
guy that's the big giant black guy

451
00:40:04.360 --> 00:40:09.400
that's there. Just yeah, yeah, they had a big rivalry. And

452
00:40:10.400 --> 00:40:15.199
so do you know any of the
wrestlers names. My brain's not working,

453
00:40:15.239 --> 00:40:24.480
man, you know how that goes? We all, but that looks like

454
00:40:24.760 --> 00:40:30.719
that guy that looked like Goldberg,
but he was a lot smaller. It

455
00:40:30.880 --> 00:40:37.320
wasn't. But uh, we're not
talking about Gilbert, damn it. To

456
00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:39.320
your point about the tag teams,
though, I think that is something that

457
00:40:39.360 --> 00:40:46.599
we do need. Nobody knows how
long uh Dax and them are going to

458
00:40:46.639 --> 00:40:53.199
be out. You know, those
guys could be down for a while.

459
00:40:53.920 --> 00:41:00.639
Cash is it, Cash's hurt?
I can't remember one. We have no

460
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:02.920
idea how long he's going to be
out. So adding the two other tag

461
00:41:02.920 --> 00:41:09.559
teams would be good. Ric Ricorset
is one of those guys that has been

462
00:41:09.559 --> 00:41:16.679
around for a long time and is
amazing in the ring. So he would

463
00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:22.760
definitely be somebody that could go and
would help improve the roster some I hain't

464
00:41:22.840 --> 00:41:25.159
much room to improve it, but
I think it would be a good thing

465
00:41:25.199 --> 00:41:30.480
to have those guys. One of
the things that I have heard about Ricochet,

466
00:41:30.800 --> 00:41:34.840
I can honestly say that I don't
believe I've ever seen him wrestle,

467
00:41:35.199 --> 00:41:39.800
but I've seen a lot of comments
of saying that Ricochet's style is more suited

468
00:41:39.840 --> 00:41:44.599
to AW than it is the w
w EEE. Is that true? And

469
00:41:44.679 --> 00:41:47.559
yes, in your all's opinion,
he is. He is along the lines

470
00:41:47.679 --> 00:41:53.880
of Ray Phoenix Osprey. He does
a lot of stuff if you wanted to

471
00:41:53.960 --> 00:42:00.760
put him in that same level.
He is very good above the ring and

472
00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:07.239
his style is definitely more suited to
AEW. Got it. Have you ever

473
00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:14.840
seen Ricochet Russell alexon Nett. Yeah, I've seen him a little bit in

474
00:42:15.039 --> 00:42:17.800
WWE, but I've seen him like
on the indies. He's a guy that

475
00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:22.280
like started off super skinny and could
do like a double backflip and then he's

476
00:42:22.280 --> 00:42:27.360
put on a lot of muscles,
similar to Will Osprey. He's a horrible

477
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:31.039
promo. But yeah, I think
he's he's I've heard that, Yeah,

478
00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:35.920
he's one of the worst. Yes, I've heard that he's got the lone

479
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:39.239
falling over a tongue thing going on. Worse. Wait, wait, way

480
00:42:39.239 --> 00:42:44.679
worse. What about you, Nett. No, I haven't seen him wrestle,

481
00:42:45.920 --> 00:42:51.639
so I'm I'm excited to see it. I haven't watched any of his

482
00:42:51.800 --> 00:42:57.559
tapes or anything in anticipation of if
he does come to WWE, I want

483
00:42:57.559 --> 00:43:02.760
it to be like all brand new
experience. So I don't know, we'll

484
00:43:02.760 --> 00:43:10.199
see, we'll see what happens.
I know when it comes to like Mason

485
00:43:10.320 --> 00:43:15.320
Mansour, I mean again, I
have never seen them wrestle before. I

486
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:21.920
am familiar with them, but are
they going to be mid card? Top

487
00:43:22.000 --> 00:43:24.800
card? Lower card? And you
know, look, if you bring more

488
00:43:24.880 --> 00:43:32.079
wrestlers in, it seems reasonable that
more wrestlers have to go out. Uh.

489
00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:38.480
So that's the problem because you can't
have a logjam of wrestlers with nothing

490
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:45.559
to do, just sitting in the
back doing nothing. So you got to

491
00:43:45.599 --> 00:43:49.719
think about that, you know.
And Dye Jack, I've never seen him

492
00:43:49.760 --> 00:43:54.639
wrestle, so so it's just one
of those things, you know, I've

493
00:43:54.679 --> 00:43:59.159
heard some good things about Ricochet.
I've heard that he's terrible on the mic,

494
00:43:59.239 --> 00:44:04.239
but that he's good at the ring
and the high flying file. Uh,

495
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:08.519
Mason man sore. I'm not real
sure about anybody knowing them at all.

496
00:44:10.239 --> 00:44:15.880
I know that they're big. I
know Mace was like a former football

497
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:19.719
player and he's into ANMA, but
I don't think i've ever seen him wrestle,

498
00:44:19.920 --> 00:44:23.480
So Okay, he's big. They
might stand out in the aw But

499
00:44:24.159 --> 00:44:30.280
what were they called justice? They
were the maximum male models. Yeah,

500
00:44:30.400 --> 00:44:38.320
they they've been going by eminem They
said M and M is what they were

501
00:44:39.159 --> 00:44:45.119
speculated they would come into AW as. Yeah, like I would probably enjoy

502
00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:52.719
seeing them more than seeing the varsity
athletes, specifically Tony Nice and Sean Davari

503
00:44:53.039 --> 00:45:00.280
pick up time on TV or Aria
Davari and Die Jack. He's a guy

504
00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:04.239
that's he's been in there. He
was in Ring of Honor and he never

505
00:45:04.320 --> 00:45:09.239
really did anything special, and then
he was in WWE and NXT for like

506
00:45:09.280 --> 00:45:14.239
six or eight years and he never
really did anything. I don't know why

507
00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:21.679
or why AW would be better for
him because he's not like a fantastic wrestler.

508
00:45:21.719 --> 00:45:23.920
I don't think. I don't know, so yeah, I would skip

509
00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:29.239
him. I would probably skip Mason
Minster. And guys that have been in

510
00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:35.599
AW recently that are also kind of
maybe relevant are the Grizzled Young Vets.

511
00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:37.800
I thought they were really good.
They're one match, and I would prefer

512
00:45:37.840 --> 00:45:46.079
they signed them over. I can't
get behind somebody that has a stupid name,

513
00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:52.719
and Grizzled Young Vets is just a
stupid name. So they're already but

514
00:45:53.760 --> 00:45:58.320
that just sounds stupid to be Grizzled
Young Vets. What the hell does that

515
00:45:58.440 --> 00:46:05.719
mean? It means that they're they're
they're they're young, but they're veteran like

516
00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:12.440
and they're grizzled. Oh so they're
trying too hard to make themselves sound Uh

517
00:46:14.159 --> 00:46:19.920
they're the ding damn it and clever. Yeah. I thought they had a

518
00:46:19.920 --> 00:46:22.639
really good match on Collision, and
they seem to be more of the A

519
00:46:23.000 --> 00:46:30.159
W. Mold than like Mason Mansur. But I don't know, and I

520
00:46:30.199 --> 00:46:38.039
call myself a babyish old part.
There you do, that's fantastic, there

521
00:46:38.079 --> 00:46:47.840
you what's up? Buff's seriously?
I look at like, look here's the

522
00:46:47.840 --> 00:46:52.159
way I look at it, and
I so you've got what is it?

523
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:58.199
The Outrunners. They don't need it
to ever wrestle. They're not doing anything.

524
00:46:58.480 --> 00:47:04.360
They're just the low card idiots that
run around and get squashed them.

525
00:47:04.559 --> 00:47:07.800
They can't they can't win them.
They're not going to ever win a match.

526
00:47:09.159 --> 00:47:12.440
You know. The only time that
they would win a match is that

527
00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:19.920
they went to on one with their
Pentaco maybe seriously, you know, so

528
00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:28.880
yeah, but a stretch teams.
You got to have those tag teams because

529
00:47:28.920 --> 00:47:31.639
you can't have you can't have your
top tag teams going against each other all

530
00:47:31.639 --> 00:47:37.000
the time. Think about back in
the day when you had the Killer Bees

531
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:43.880
and the British Bulldogs, and you
had the Bushwhackers, and you had the

532
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:47.159
I don't I don't remember them at
a w at all. I'm talking about

533
00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:53.199
back in the day when you had
the old school tag teams Outrunners. You

534
00:47:53.199 --> 00:47:57.400
can't get rid of the Outrunners just
because they suck. You got to have

535
00:47:57.480 --> 00:48:04.280
them. Somebody that these top teams
like the Bucks and you know, any

536
00:48:04.320 --> 00:48:07.039
of the other teams that are top
blind you can't have them going up against

537
00:48:07.039 --> 00:48:09.360
each other all the time because then
you get tired of seeing them. So

538
00:48:09.400 --> 00:48:13.039
you gotta have the runners so they
get the crap beat out of them.

539
00:48:13.239 --> 00:48:16.079
So if you do the Outrunners,
you gotta change their gimmick completely because the

540
00:48:16.119 --> 00:48:25.679
gimmicks it's it's got its course.
They're gonna end up with, don't castle,

541
00:48:25.679 --> 00:48:30.920
and they're going to be a team, man telling you boys, Nope,

542
00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:36.679
they're gonna be They're gonna be h
a real I don't know what they're

543
00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:39.159
gonna call them, but they're gonna
end up being together. That's that's that's

544
00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:45.000
the r o h's new triple tag
team, you know, the sixth Man

545
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:52.400
or the trios team for the r
o H. Now, mm hmm okay,

546
00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:55.760
you can tell that. I'm just
beyond excited for that. I know.

547
00:48:58.360 --> 00:49:04.000
I mean, this is me excited. Did anyone anyone okay, Herbo

548
00:49:04.199 --> 00:49:07.599
Floyd and what's the other one's name? Uh? No, one knows.

549
00:49:08.719 --> 00:49:15.199
Nobody knows Battery Juice. I don't
know one. That's a good name.

550
00:49:16.000 --> 00:49:21.119
I mean when you what they've been
around for like a year and you don't

551
00:49:21.119 --> 00:49:27.519
even know their names. You know, Herbot Floyd. I remember because because

552
00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:32.800
it's like the single dumbest name I've
ever heard for wrestler. Like, I

553
00:49:32.840 --> 00:49:45.199
don't know, But where did we
get to this point? We were talking

554
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:52.880
about I don't know, we're talking
about who were better than the outrunners.

555
00:49:52.880 --> 00:49:58.840
I think that was where you were
going, okay, or the or the

556
00:49:59.079 --> 00:50:07.599
righteous. I'm open minded to the
righteous. They've yet I really like Dutch.

557
00:50:07.760 --> 00:50:13.320
He's a big looking fellow the righteous
again, And it's the way I

558
00:50:13.360 --> 00:50:19.719
look at it. The righteous part
of the Righteous does not work because they're

559
00:50:19.760 --> 00:50:27.440
boring. And you can tell by
the absolute silence the crowd anytime they show

560
00:50:27.519 --> 00:50:34.760
up on TV. You can hear
cricket farts when when they come out,

561
00:50:35.719 --> 00:50:39.320
so there's no noise at all.
And it's doesn't help that their music is

562
00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:45.280
god awful too, because it's so
quiet that it really, you know,

563
00:50:45.599 --> 00:50:50.880
enhances the absolute apathy they get from
the crowd. So I mean, there's

564
00:50:50.920 --> 00:50:55.000
nothing good about the Righteous at all, and I hate it. I hate

565
00:50:55.039 --> 00:51:00.239
it for Lance Archer that he's stuck
with them now. They may be great

566
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:06.519
guys and whatnot, Please, for
the love of God, makes them interesting

567
00:51:07.320 --> 00:51:09.639
or don't use them at all.
Yeah, I think they need to change

568
00:51:09.719 --> 00:51:14.440
their gimmick. It's kind of like
a weird cross between House of Black and

569
00:51:14.639 --> 00:51:20.559
the Wyatt Family. It's more like, you know, okay, everybody in

570
00:51:20.599 --> 00:51:27.000
the crowd. We are now going
to pass out cyanide laced cool aid drink,

571
00:51:27.199 --> 00:51:34.400
and here we go, like,
yes, it's working, you're saying

572
00:51:34.800 --> 00:51:39.400
exactly. I mean it's not working
because it's like because when I see them,

573
00:51:39.800 --> 00:51:45.039
I want to drink cyanidolid. But
then they got you where they want

574
00:51:45.119 --> 00:51:54.480
you, like please, God,
he's so far, he's been sucked so

575
00:51:54.519 --> 00:51:59.480
far into the gimmick. He doesn't
realize that they're doing their job. It's

576
00:52:00.440 --> 00:52:07.840
yes, that's right. I'll tell
you why. It's just that's the that's

577
00:52:07.039 --> 00:52:14.440
the hay kids. Watch the Righteous. You'll you'll want to drink cyanide laid

578
00:52:15.840 --> 00:52:19.360
and you get a Jim Jones Lookalke
come out with him. Then they'd be

579
00:52:19.400 --> 00:52:23.000
in good cheap Naddy, Bobby Daddy. What's cyanide? Can I have some

580
00:52:28.000 --> 00:52:31.320
goodness? Oh? Cyanide son is
what Nazis used to use, you know,

581
00:52:31.920 --> 00:52:38.880
Oh Nazis they sound cool? Come
on, oh man, see I'm

582
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:45.400
telling you the Righteous and they're like
cults, mass suicides. Nazis. They

583
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:50.719
shouldn't be on TV, they shouldn't
be in the a W unless they get

584
00:52:51.079 --> 00:52:57.960
an entire you know, makeover.
They just start a cold some all the

585
00:52:58.079 --> 00:53:02.480
underused wrestlers and demand change. Yeah, I mean, come on, and

586
00:53:02.519 --> 00:53:07.800
I can't take somebody. I can't
take a group of people that are dressed

587
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:13.159
like mister Rourke from Fantasy Island as
a wrestler. That's their that's their whole

588
00:53:13.199 --> 00:53:19.079
thing. That's the colt man.
Just like no, they just have a

589
00:53:19.239 --> 00:53:22.280
vertically challenge. They just need to
have a vertical challenge of valet. I

590
00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:27.760
guess you need complete more research.
Man. You got to get the research

591
00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:30.559
going for the cults and see how
this works, because that's what it is.

592
00:53:30.960 --> 00:53:36.840
Anyway, this is way way off
the rails. Told comes out dressed

593
00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:42.480
like that, then you're really going
to see Ye there yet add them to

594
00:53:42.480 --> 00:53:49.360
the learning tree whole group after the
after the show, I want your address

595
00:53:49.360 --> 00:53:53.320
so I can come and give you
some blade at last with cyanide, I

596
00:53:53.360 --> 00:53:58.320
have my own maiden to closet.
Don't worry. There you go. It

597
00:53:58.400 --> 00:54:00.280
can take a few SIPs for me. Tell me how to take every day

598
00:54:00.800 --> 00:54:08.599
a build up an immunity, save
us. Yeah, so we had an

599
00:54:08.599 --> 00:54:15.239
announcement what happens when you follow the
righteous? That's right, all right,

600
00:54:16.320 --> 00:54:25.079
we had an announcement. I'm changing
the topic, Okay, Forbidden Door,

601
00:54:25.519 --> 00:54:29.840
and I think we talked about it, Kelson brought it up. They're having

602
00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:35.239
basically the Japanese version of Forbidden Door. Night two of Wrestle Kingdom is now

603
00:54:35.320 --> 00:54:42.119
Wrestle Dynasty, and it's going to
feature CMLL Stardom, A W and j

604
00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:45.920
P W and and they had the
Ring of Honor logo as well. Yeah,

605
00:54:46.719 --> 00:54:55.199
yeah, I'm excited. Mm hmmm. Maybe a W wrestlers won't beat

606
00:54:55.280 --> 00:55:01.239
everybody in significant matches in that one, Yeah, mm hmm. Anybody think

607
00:55:01.360 --> 00:55:08.719
a certain someone might be healed up
by then and make an appearance. Yes,

608
00:55:09.239 --> 00:55:15.400
Oh, I didn't know the hell
you were talking about. And yeah,

609
00:55:16.119 --> 00:55:21.199
uh yes, I think it's gonna
be a great thing. Uh.

610
00:55:21.639 --> 00:55:25.000
I'm kind of looking forward to it. But yeah, it's gonna be interesting.

611
00:55:25.400 --> 00:55:29.719
The only the only thing that that
that that kind of for me is

612
00:55:30.039 --> 00:55:31.840
that if you include R O H
in add is that they don't have enough

613
00:55:31.880 --> 00:55:36.400
separation. To me, R O
H and a W needs to get more

614
00:55:36.400 --> 00:55:40.679
separated because you see them too often. I mean, you see guys from

615
00:55:40.800 --> 00:55:46.400
R OH and a W all the
time, and this is dynasty. How

616
00:55:46.840 --> 00:55:54.760
if you're if you're gonna, if
you're gonna include Dynasty Hasty without r o

617
00:55:54.800 --> 00:56:01.800
A. Well it's not hard,
well, David to redo the entire graphic,

618
00:56:01.880 --> 00:56:07.800
and that costs you know, tens
of dollars, tens of dollars.

619
00:56:08.280 --> 00:56:12.679
Yeah, Ione has to have everyone
in Ring of Honor, but they could

620
00:56:12.679 --> 00:56:20.679
have you know, Athena having Yeah, right, it's important. Think about

621
00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:22.400
it this way, even if there's
only one person from ringer Honor and there

622
00:56:22.440 --> 00:56:25.960
at least it's on the graphic and
people are like, oh Ring of Honor

623
00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:32.639
exists. Seriously, it's a positive. When is something we should add to

624
00:56:32.639 --> 00:56:38.159
that list that we didn't? Yeah, well yeah, I think yeah,

625
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:43.039
it gives because Ring of Honor,
you know, the selling point is really

626
00:56:43.079 --> 00:56:47.079
the female wrestlers on Ring of Honor. So that could set up a lot

627
00:56:47.079 --> 00:56:53.719
of matches with stardom that could be
good. Yeah. Well yeah, there's

628
00:56:53.760 --> 00:56:58.960
gonna be a w wrestlers in stardom
over a few months, and so it

629
00:56:59.000 --> 00:57:02.760
makes perfect sense. So you're to
probably see some storylines made in AW and

630
00:57:04.239 --> 00:57:09.920
in Japan and Stardom for Russell Dynasty. So so you're not only gonna have

631
00:57:10.079 --> 00:57:15.760
men male wrestlers going to start them
for both AW not to start them,

632
00:57:15.760 --> 00:57:22.000
but the NJPW from Awn Roh.
But you're going to see women going to

633
00:57:22.079 --> 00:57:28.920
start them from AW as well,
So so it does open up a whole

634
00:57:28.960 --> 00:57:31.960
can of worms. And hopefully,
you know, as I said earlier,

635
00:57:32.360 --> 00:57:37.199
it's not going to be one of
those pay per views where AAW and Roh

636
00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:40.480
is going to dominate. You know, I really would like to see some

637
00:57:40.639 --> 00:57:46.239
title matches and I'd like to see
some surprises. That was the only thing

638
00:57:46.360 --> 00:57:53.320
that was missing to me from Forbidden
Door is that there weren't any surprises as

639
00:57:53.360 --> 00:57:58.920
far as the winners of the matches
go. Yeah, that was something I

640
00:57:58.920 --> 00:58:01.960
said to my son too. I
said, so, you know, I

641
00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:07.320
get the Wrestlings predictable, but damn
well, you know you hear people talking,

642
00:58:07.440 --> 00:58:13.800
you know, they want stories,
they want less predictability. That's how

643
00:58:13.840 --> 00:58:17.480
it's done, you know. And
I seriously thought that AW dropped the ball

644
00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:22.360
with the Mina Shehri Kalaba Mariam and
Tony Storm match, and I'd like to

645
00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:30.199
see them do something at Wressell Dynasty
that breaks the mold. I just don't

646
00:58:30.199 --> 00:58:35.239
want to see if you see the
same thing happen all the time. I

647
00:58:35.280 --> 00:58:38.880
mean, look how many matches were
we're at Forbidden Door fourteen. I think

648
00:58:38.920 --> 00:58:45.760
there was. Yeah, there was
how many that didn't end like with a

649
00:58:45.800 --> 00:58:52.599
really big surprise or not when you
expected. I can't think of any of

650
00:58:52.639 --> 00:58:58.440
them that didn't like we expected there. And you know what I'm saying.

651
00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:05.320
It's like, did Paul Kyle Fletcher
beating Serpenteico? Well they didn't have that

652
00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:08.679
on the on the card, but
if it was like the first Zero Hour

653
00:59:08.760 --> 00:59:13.199
match, but yeah, they didn't. We did a poll on a w

654
00:59:13.360 --> 00:59:17.480
FANA for each of the matches that
have been announced. No, but we

655
00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:23.559
missed a couple admittedly, like the
Kyle Fletcher and Sir Pentaco match. We

656
00:59:23.599 --> 00:59:30.280
asked the ask them to pick the
members to pick the winners, and they

657
00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:32.119
got them all right, they say
it, they got them all right.

658
00:59:34.280 --> 00:59:38.039
There was no surprises, you know, and that's big. It doesn't matter

659
00:59:38.159 --> 00:59:47.280
if the storytelling is great, but
if there's no surprises and everything is finished

660
00:59:47.480 --> 00:59:52.400
after the matches, you know,
I want to see. That's why I

661
00:59:52.440 --> 00:59:57.119
thought it was nice with the Mina
Sheri Kawa quote that I said earlier that

662
00:59:57.159 --> 01:00:02.519
she's not done with the a W
Women's World Championship just yet. He still

663
01:00:02.599 --> 01:00:07.639
wants it. I thought that was
important because it keeps the story going.

664
01:00:07.159 --> 01:00:10.840
It stopped. You had a two
months build up and that it's over and

665
01:00:10.880 --> 01:00:16.679
everybody's hugging and grab an ass seriously, you know what I mean. Yeah,

666
01:00:16.800 --> 01:00:21.480
I want to see I want to
see something that I didn't see yet

667
01:00:21.760 --> 01:00:25.440
ever, you know, And that's
important. Yeah, and that's what I'm

668
01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:31.400
hoping for, Russell Dream Dynasty.
You had that quote from will Osprey talking

669
01:00:31.400 --> 01:00:38.639
about or the story about why that
will Osprey swears Strickland match got set up

670
01:00:38.719 --> 01:00:44.519
and it was partially to kind of
normalize a guy like will Ospray, like

671
01:00:44.599 --> 01:00:52.119
the top stars actually losing matches to
the world champion or the big names.

672
01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:54.679
And yeah, I think that's something
you don't really see a lot of in

673
01:00:54.800 --> 01:00:59.719
AW. It's like protect all the
top guys at all costs, and there's

674
01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:05.159
like twenty top guys, So yeah, I think that would make it more

675
01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:09.440
unpredictable if more of those guys lose
matches exactly. And that's something that he

676
01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:14.239
did say in that He did say
that he thought he wanted to show that

677
01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:17.400
even the top guys. Basically he
does not exactly work for what he said,

678
01:01:17.800 --> 01:01:23.039
but he did say in that same
quote that he thought it was important

679
01:01:23.039 --> 01:01:30.199
that top guys would lose, especially
to the world champion. You know,

680
01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:35.159
he's sending a message to the locker
room, you know. So I think

681
01:01:35.159 --> 01:01:38.880
it's important and that's you know,
and I think it's extremely relevant to something

682
01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:49.719
like Russell Dynasty because these aw people
are going to Japan and they can't expect

683
01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:52.760
And this goes for Tony Kahan too. You can't expect to send your wrestlers

684
01:01:52.760 --> 01:01:59.920
in Japan to walk out of nine
matches with nine winners, right right.

685
01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:04.719
That's me. I personally don't want
to see that. I want to see

686
01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:09.960
people I've never seen before win.
It's not like they're not good, you

687
01:02:10.000 --> 01:02:14.320
know. I'm let me rephrase that. I want to see people that have

688
01:02:14.360 --> 01:02:22.679
never before went number won before win
if they're not Nito. Because that match

689
01:02:22.159 --> 01:02:30.440
was awful. That was that was
that was I mean, yeah, that

690
01:02:30.639 --> 01:02:35.880
was. They had no chemistry whatsoever
together at all. They had a match

691
01:02:36.280 --> 01:02:40.000
at like a few months ago when
when John Moxley won the title and it

692
01:02:40.039 --> 01:02:43.920
was a lot better than this one. Well, I think it. I

693
01:02:43.960 --> 01:02:50.079
think what I heard was that Nito
didn't doesn't care to wrestle in America and

694
01:02:50.199 --> 01:02:52.880
didn't want to have another title match
in America. He wanted to have it

695
01:02:52.960 --> 01:02:58.519
in Japan. So that was kind
of why he was like the way it

696
01:02:58.679 --> 01:03:04.079
was, that's that's hear that,
But I believe Yeah, like you just

697
01:03:04.679 --> 01:03:07.760
there's fans out there. Don't you
just want to put on the best show.

698
01:03:07.760 --> 01:03:10.119
You don't want to just look like
you suck it wrestling. Oh he

699
01:03:10.280 --> 01:03:15.159
was flying. Yeah, they just
didn't have any chemistry. They just went

700
01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:21.960
through the motions. Like a lot
of these guys, the wrestlers that they're

701
01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:29.079
featuring from Japan are older. They're
they're well into their forties, Panahashi and

702
01:03:29.239 --> 01:03:37.039
Nido, and you know, it's
not fair to come down a ton of

703
01:03:37.039 --> 01:03:39.599
Hashey the guy, he actually did
pretty good for a guy who doesn't have

704
01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:45.960
knees. Yeah, Like, you
know, you watch him walk around,

705
01:03:45.079 --> 01:03:47.920
it's like, oh god, oh
my god. Yeah. I was like

706
01:03:49.400 --> 01:03:53.519
I was like, I thought,
Akdahashi walks like me on any given day.

707
01:03:54.360 --> 01:03:58.440
You know. It's just like he's
like bow legged. I'm not bowl

708
01:03:58.480 --> 01:04:01.480
legged, but I walk like a
bolt because my knees always hurt, you

709
01:04:01.519 --> 01:04:05.239
know, And it's just weird.
It's just weird. Seed am in the

710
01:04:05.320 --> 01:04:13.039
ring. However, as a caveat
to that match that Tanahashi was in,

711
01:04:13.639 --> 01:04:17.599
he did win the World Air Guitar
Championship based on his performance in that match,

712
01:04:17.599 --> 01:04:26.719
So congratulations mm hm. And Okada
won the World Air Djang Championship.

713
01:04:27.320 --> 01:04:32.880
Oh yes, and I forget about
that. Well, we're talking about walking

714
01:04:33.119 --> 01:04:38.519
and knees. My daughter pointed out
to me the way that Okada walks,

715
01:04:39.440 --> 01:04:45.880
and now I can't unsee him walking
with his knees kind of stuck together.

716
01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:54.639
So he's a very demure Japanese.
Uh, lady, I know what he's

717
01:04:54.679 --> 01:05:00.440
doing there, but if you if
you really watch him walk, it looks

718
01:05:00.599 --> 01:05:08.320
it doesn't quite go with his stature. A bathroom, Yeah, yeah,

719
01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:15.079
it doesn't quite fit him. So
I don't know. Thank you for ruding

720
01:05:15.159 --> 01:05:21.280
Oconda for everybody. Daughter, so
everyone else now has to look and be

721
01:05:23.239 --> 01:05:30.679
with you. Is she sitting there
with you? Tell her on her?

722
01:05:30.760 --> 01:05:40.320
I will tell her for Rudy Oconda
for everybody. Gosh damn it, I

723
01:05:40.400 --> 01:05:47.320
know. I was so sad I
had to share it. I couldn't except

724
01:05:47.320 --> 01:05:57.400
to be working, you know,
Bratt. Oh, did anyone enjoy the

725
01:05:57.559 --> 01:06:05.400
Cassidy Zach Saber Junior match? Really
good on TV. But what did you

726
01:06:05.440 --> 01:06:10.039
watch during the match? I can't
remember, but it was better than I

727
01:06:10.159 --> 01:06:15.559
just had, you know, be
I don't say stuff that I don't mean

728
01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:19.440
did not watch the match. I
just didn't. I had no interest in

729
01:06:19.440 --> 01:06:25.639
it. Yeah, it really turned
out to be amazing, Like Orange Cassidy

730
01:06:25.800 --> 01:06:30.639
just could perfectly do the Zach Saber
Junior style and kind of match him.

731
01:06:31.400 --> 01:06:38.960
Mm hmmm, yep, well,
Jack Zach Saber Junior did say it the

732
01:06:38.960 --> 01:06:44.639
media scrum. Anybody that thinks that
Orange Cassidy is not a great professional wrestler

733
01:06:44.800 --> 01:06:54.480
paraphrase great paraphrasing here is a effing
idiot. Uh No, because I never

734
01:06:54.599 --> 01:06:58.840
said that Orange Cassidy was not a
great professional wrestler. I said that he

735
01:06:58.960 --> 01:07:03.679
is phenomenal. My problem with Orange
Cassidy is that there's two problems. He

736
01:07:03.840 --> 01:07:10.239
is severely overused and all of his
matches are the same. So I have

737
01:07:10.360 --> 01:07:16.199
no interest in watching an overused guy
that I've seen do the same match hundreds

738
01:07:16.239 --> 01:07:19.800
of times, but now over the
last couple of years. So I went

739
01:07:19.840 --> 01:07:26.119
into that match with no expectations,
not even low, and I didn't watch

740
01:07:26.159 --> 01:07:29.639
it. I mean, I paid
for the pay per view. I'm not

741
01:07:29.679 --> 01:07:31.800
going to watch something I don't want
to watch. I also did not watch

742
01:07:31.880 --> 01:07:38.880
the next match, the Chris Jericho
Learning Tree against whatever the hell they were

743
01:07:38.880 --> 01:07:42.199
fighting, because I didn't see it
because I have no interest in seeing that

744
01:07:42.239 --> 01:07:45.880
guy. I think it's a stupid
thing that I have no interest in.

745
01:07:46.440 --> 01:07:50.199
So a lot of people feel that
the same way, and a lot of

746
01:07:50.199 --> 01:07:57.239
people like it. That doesn't have
anything to do with me. But yeah,

747
01:07:57.360 --> 01:08:01.599
and Orange Cassidy he the one guy, right, I guess him and

748
01:08:01.679 --> 01:08:06.280
John Moxley are the guys that actually
lost to New Japan wrestlers, and he

749
01:08:06.360 --> 01:08:12.400
made Zach Saber Junior look really good. Yeah I heard that. But again,

750
01:08:13.159 --> 01:08:19.880
ever, did anybody on in the
world I think that Moxley was winning

751
01:08:19.880 --> 01:08:29.079
that match? No, and maybe
they saw the match, but it's like

752
01:08:30.119 --> 01:08:34.000
nobody that I saw, even on
the polls we did, thought Moxley was

753
01:08:34.039 --> 01:08:40.359
winning that match. So yeah,
I mean it was obvious that Moxley was

754
01:08:40.399 --> 01:08:45.159
gonna lose. And yeah, the
Zach Saber Junior and Orange Castidy match was

755
01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:48.359
a non title match. It was
an exhibition match through and through. There

756
01:08:48.439 --> 01:08:54.720
was no heat nothing in that match. Who cares if Orange Castidy one?

757
01:08:54.720 --> 01:08:59.119
Who cares if Zach Saber Junior one
who cares it was just a match,

758
01:09:00.359 --> 01:09:04.079
It's it's a good showcase for Zach
Saber Jr. It shows that they have

759
01:09:04.159 --> 01:09:10.520
big plans for him, probably in
New Japan. Yeah, more Weddy signs

760
01:09:10.600 --> 01:09:15.439
when it becomes the next New Japan
wrest design. I think that that is

761
01:09:15.479 --> 01:09:20.199
Tony's like move. He's like that
brings me back to a question here.

762
01:09:20.760 --> 01:09:29.840
You know Forbidden Door Wressell Dynasty.
Are there enough n j p W men's

763
01:09:29.880 --> 01:09:34.800
wrestlers to make it even worse?
N JP I mean n j p W

764
01:09:34.960 --> 01:09:42.159
needs help because what they put out
of Forbidden Door is the best that they've

765
01:09:42.199 --> 01:09:46.880
got. They're they're not very good. I don't know. I don't agree

766
01:09:46.920 --> 01:09:50.720
with that they have better stuff.
It's like they have better guys, but

767
01:09:50.760 --> 01:09:57.640
they always want to feature and so
they do have better guys. You're talking

768
01:09:57.640 --> 01:10:02.000
to a guy who doesn't watch has
never watched Do Japan, because when I

769
01:10:02.119 --> 01:10:05.000
see it on, you know,
like the dynamites and the collisions and stuff

770
01:10:05.039 --> 01:10:10.079
like that. Forbidden Door. Now, these guys, I mean, Zach

771
01:10:10.119 --> 01:10:16.680
Saber Junior is good. Jeff Cobb
was was oppressive Jeff Cobb, and I

772
01:10:16.680 --> 01:10:24.439
think it comes down to there.
They bring the people that are known here

773
01:10:25.119 --> 01:10:30.279
because it's it's here, it's the
American, it's the it's the aw fans

774
01:10:30.319 --> 01:10:35.680
that are gonna watch it, and
they're bringing people who are better known instead

775
01:10:35.680 --> 01:10:41.359
of bringing in the people who may
not people may not know. Okay,

776
01:10:41.359 --> 01:10:44.359
and I've got an I've got a
counterpoint to that, Suton. Okay,

777
01:10:44.680 --> 01:10:48.960
Stephanie Vacker is not known. Who
were the people chanting for when Stephanie Backer

778
01:10:49.119 --> 01:10:56.399
was going against Mercedes Bay in the
rink? It's not it's there is no

779
01:10:56.399 --> 01:11:01.920
difference because Stephanie Vacker put on a
good wrestling and the other guys from m

780
01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:09.760
JPW, for the most part did
not. Okay, counterpoint, Stephanie Vecker

781
01:11:10.319 --> 01:11:14.520
put on a hell of a show. She is not known here because she's

782
01:11:14.560 --> 01:11:17.840
only been she only had one match
leading up to this. Main part of

783
01:11:17.880 --> 01:11:21.439
the reason, and they pointed it
out during the match that they were booing

784
01:11:21.520 --> 01:11:30.439
Mercedes was because you're in Long Island
and she's from Boston. That's a major

785
01:11:30.920 --> 01:11:35.920
reason they were booing her. Period. You take any sport in any between

786
01:11:36.439 --> 01:11:42.399
New England and New York and that's
gonna happen no matter who it is if

787
01:11:42.520 --> 01:11:46.359
MJF was from Boston, he'd get
booed like that. That's a big reason

788
01:11:46.359 --> 01:11:50.039
why that happens. But here's the
thing, the guys that they don't know

789
01:11:50.119 --> 01:11:54.600
about. They brought in a couple
extra guys. The one that was in

790
01:11:54.680 --> 01:11:59.119
with Roderick Strong, I can't think
of his name. Gabe, Yeah,

791
01:11:59.159 --> 01:12:02.359
Gabe, he did. He's a
really fun guy to watch. Zach Saiber

792
01:12:02.439 --> 01:12:10.119
Junior. Most people know who he
is from his rivalry with Danielson. Jeff

793
01:12:10.159 --> 01:12:15.479
Kobb has been there before, Nito. You know all those guys, is

794
01:12:15.640 --> 01:12:19.039
she? All those guys have been
here all three times because they're the ones

795
01:12:19.439 --> 01:12:26.359
that know from New Japan. And
it's easier to bring those guys in like

796
01:12:26.439 --> 01:12:29.840
that than to bring in all the
new people and go, well, we

797
01:12:29.880 --> 01:12:32.720
don't They didn't have like with Stephanie. She should have been at least two

798
01:12:32.760 --> 01:12:36.000
matches. They should have had her
in her singles match, and she should

799
01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:40.039
have been with her tag team partner
and done one of those kind of things

800
01:12:40.079 --> 01:12:45.239
like they usually do with those But
they didn't do that right and she she

801
01:12:45.520 --> 01:12:47.960
I'm honestly, I think money was
not good in that match. I didn't

802
01:12:48.000 --> 01:12:51.680
I didn't think she did anything to
make Stephanie look better. I think it's

803
01:12:53.399 --> 01:12:58.319
opposite. Stephanie did everything to make
Money look better. Because if you put

804
01:12:58.399 --> 01:13:01.960
anybody else in that match with Stephanie, she looks as good as she did.

805
01:13:03.199 --> 01:13:12.680
Honestly, I just I totally Mercedes
Monee when I look, when I

806
01:13:12.800 --> 01:13:16.319
look at what kind of wrestling I
like, what makes a good wrestler.

807
01:13:17.359 --> 01:13:21.880
I think it's not only what your
offense is, it's what you do in

808
01:13:21.920 --> 01:13:28.319
the ring to make your opponent look
better. Mercedes Monee had a fantastic match

809
01:13:29.000 --> 01:13:33.800
because she was in the exact right
spot, doing the exact right thing to

810
01:13:33.880 --> 01:13:44.880
make everything that Stephanie Vacker did look
fluid and spontaneous, almost and perfect.

811
01:13:45.960 --> 01:13:50.800
Stephanie Vacker could have not done what
she did in that match with a lesser

812
01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:55.920
wrestler. And I'm going to point
out something. Look at the match as

813
01:13:55.960 --> 01:14:00.720
she had with Lady Frost, who
was a very competent wrestler. But that

814
01:14:00.760 --> 01:14:08.000
match wasn't very good. I thought
it was a good match, not compared

815
01:14:08.039 --> 01:14:12.199
to Stephanie Monet. It wasn't like
I said, I I am I have

816
01:14:12.439 --> 01:14:15.479
I'm not impressed with Monette. I
haven't been impressed with her, yet she

817
01:14:15.680 --> 01:14:19.520
reminds me exactly what I expected from
a WWE train, from a from a

818
01:14:19.560 --> 01:14:26.479
wrestler in women's division from WW who
came to AW. I would admit,

819
01:14:26.680 --> 01:14:30.479
I will admit you've already said,
no sense of repeating it. I would

820
01:14:30.439 --> 01:14:39.800
admit that I was not impressed with
Mercedes Monet until Sunday night, because if

821
01:14:39.880 --> 01:14:46.239
he did everything right, he worked
her butt off to make Stephanie Facker look

822
01:14:46.319 --> 01:14:53.000
great, to put Stephanie Facker over
no arguing that I'm sorry. Anybody that

823
01:14:53.039 --> 01:14:57.159
doesn't think that, I'm sorry,
but I think you're wrong. Yeah you

824
01:14:57.159 --> 01:15:01.439
can. You could say that you're
not impressed with Mercedes Bonet and have that,

825
01:15:02.199 --> 01:15:05.960
and she's never gonna do anything obviously
that's gonna make you a pressed with

826
01:15:06.000 --> 01:15:12.840
her. So that is what it
is. Yeah, I think Stephanie Vicker

827
01:15:12.920 --> 01:15:16.760
looked like the greatest woman prestler of
all time. She did in that match,

828
01:15:16.840 --> 01:15:21.119
So yeah, you gotta give it
to Mercedes. I thought Mercedes didn't

829
01:15:21.119 --> 01:15:26.800
look as good as her, for
sure, but it takes two to pull

830
01:15:26.840 --> 01:15:30.039
that off. So yeah, I
mean, like I said, maybe offensively,

831
01:15:30.159 --> 01:15:34.479
Mercedes did not look as good as
Becker, but that's not the only

832
01:15:34.520 --> 01:15:39.039
thing. It's how you take bumps. It's how you set yourself up to

833
01:15:39.079 --> 01:15:42.840
take bumps. It's how you work
with your opponent to be fluid in the

834
01:15:42.920 --> 01:15:46.760
ring. You know, it's the
science of professional wrestling. You could put

835
01:15:46.800 --> 01:15:54.760
two great wrestlers in the ring that
have no chemistry whatsoever and don't work well

836
01:15:54.760 --> 01:15:58.880
together, and even though they are
great, they can have a shit match

837
01:15:59.279 --> 01:16:04.920
Naito and Mack Well, like,
yeah, Naito is is the I think

838
01:16:04.960 --> 01:16:11.439
he's been in the twilight of his
career. Possibly sure, but yeah,

839
01:16:11.560 --> 01:16:16.159
just the comment on you know,
the old wrestlers versus younger wrestlers that really

840
01:16:16.279 --> 01:16:21.560
didn't get fully featured, like Gave
Kid and the whole Bullet Club. War

841
01:16:21.600 --> 01:16:28.840
Dogs are an exciting young faction in
New Japan that didn't really get featured.

842
01:16:29.840 --> 01:16:36.960
I think Yoda Suji, Pomu Takahashi
are exciting young wrestlers that kind of got

843
01:16:38.039 --> 01:16:41.960
some time but really didn't get featured. And yeah, they put a little

844
01:16:41.960 --> 01:16:48.600
bit too much into Tanahashi and Isshi
and in these guys, and hopefully when

845
01:16:48.640 --> 01:16:56.720
they do this Japanese show, we
get this, you know, Okata versus

846
01:16:56.800 --> 01:17:00.399
one of these up and coming young
guys whether it's Shoda and he's healthy,

847
01:17:00.640 --> 01:17:05.000
or it's Yoda Suji or something like
that. What about Bullet Club Gold versus

848
01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:10.439
Bulla Club war Dogs. Yeah,
like that has to be in their back

849
01:17:10.520 --> 01:17:15.479
pocket because it's got to be.
I think the guy that's the leader of

850
01:17:15.520 --> 01:17:20.279
the war Dogs right now, and
David Finley was like attacked and beat up

851
01:17:20.399 --> 01:17:24.840
Jay Wayne on the way out.
So yeah, like things like that,

852
01:17:24.920 --> 01:17:29.439
which I was hoping they did here. Maybe they're just saving it for the

853
01:17:29.560 --> 01:17:31.800
Japanese show, so very well could
be. I'm just saying, is that

854
01:17:31.880 --> 01:17:42.520
I think it's acumbent upon AW two
to be prepared to lose to some Japanese

855
01:17:42.560 --> 01:17:46.279
wrestlers instead of winning however a match
as mini matches meaningful match as there are

856
01:17:47.239 --> 01:17:53.920
on the show. And also it's
coming upon DO Japan to put their best

857
01:17:53.920 --> 01:17:58.439
out there. Yeah, And I
don't know if that's an e W decision.

858
01:17:58.560 --> 01:18:02.800
They're like, we want we want
to play the hits and not have

859
01:18:03.000 --> 01:18:08.600
people learn and showcase new guys they've
never heard of. I don't know.

860
01:18:08.640 --> 01:18:15.920
I would hope that they lean into
showcasing people that are good over you've heard

861
01:18:15.960 --> 01:18:20.399
of their name before, but you
but you know my point is is that

862
01:18:20.520 --> 01:18:26.039
I don't know if you agree with
this, but I'd rather see good wrestlers

863
01:18:27.600 --> 01:18:33.119
than Look what Chris Jericho fought.
What just Chris Jericho had that match with

864
01:18:33.880 --> 01:18:42.079
Atchet Andretti. Andretti wrestled a really
good match, and that's what I want

865
01:18:42.119 --> 01:18:44.239
to see. You can have an
old guy in there, but I want

866
01:18:44.279 --> 01:18:47.720
to see a good guy in there. I don't want to see two guys

867
01:18:47.960 --> 01:18:51.600
then you know we're not going to
have chemistry, you know, and a

868
01:18:51.720 --> 01:18:56.960
guy that has no knees out there
wrestling. I want to see somebody that's

869
01:18:57.039 --> 01:18:59.840
capable. I don't care if I've
never heard of them before. Yeah,

870
01:19:00.039 --> 01:19:03.560
you can make someone at Forbidden Door
three, and then that person can come

871
01:19:03.600 --> 01:19:10.119
back for Forbidden Door four or the
wrestled Dynasty Show, and then that matches

872
01:19:10.159 --> 01:19:15.439
way more exciting and interesting. My
point is is that, again, I

873
01:19:15.479 --> 01:19:18.960
go back to Stephanie Vacker. Yeah, yeah, you not many people knew

874
01:19:19.000 --> 01:19:24.960
who she was, you know,
But now there's a post on aw fan

875
01:19:25.039 --> 01:19:29.199
hubb that right now that says,
hey, should it should Tony Khan sign

876
01:19:30.119 --> 01:19:36.600
Stephanie Vacker? Hell yeah, she's
fantastic. That's what you want. If

877
01:19:36.600 --> 01:19:41.279
I nobody saying, hey, does
anybody wanted do you think Tony kan should

878
01:19:41.840 --> 01:19:49.920
sign nothing against she? But he's
not one of those guys that is going

879
01:19:50.000 --> 01:19:59.479
to spark, you know, uh, a riot for people to to sign

880
01:19:59.560 --> 01:20:02.520
him. You know, it's he's
an older guy. Sure people may know

881
01:20:02.640 --> 01:20:08.960
his name, but that doesn't mean
anything if you can't wrestle off to his

882
01:20:09.119 --> 01:20:13.239
what his name established, you know, and that's stuff to get against him.

883
01:20:13.279 --> 01:20:16.119
But look what he was in the
ring with. Yeah, unless New

884
01:20:16.199 --> 01:20:24.119
Japan's afraid of someone doing well and
then Tony Khan paying them ten dollars that

885
01:20:27.840 --> 01:20:30.920
I think when they go to Japan, you're going to see a lot of

886
01:20:30.920 --> 01:20:35.840
the younger guys because they it comes
down to also, you gotta fake travel

887
01:20:35.880 --> 01:20:41.439
issues too, because you know that
that's something else you have to take him

888
01:20:41.479 --> 01:20:44.439
to effect coming to America. Just
like when we go over there. There

889
01:20:44.520 --> 01:20:47.279
might be some that won't be able
to go, but they'll have their main

890
01:20:47.319 --> 01:20:50.359
people. I think I think it'll
be the opposite when you go to Japan.

891
01:20:50.479 --> 01:20:54.920
I think that a lot of the
guys from the Japan are gonna win.

892
01:20:56.319 --> 01:21:00.159
I hope. So I I really
want to see this become an exhibition

893
01:21:00.279 --> 01:21:06.399
I want to see it become a
rivalry. That's my point. It's too

894
01:21:06.520 --> 01:21:13.159
predictable right now and forbidden door.
I mean, if you can get every

895
01:21:13.199 --> 01:21:15.880
match right, you get every match
right. There's just a way, no

896
01:21:15.920 --> 01:21:18.960
way around it. It's predictable.
I want to see rivalries. I want

897
01:21:18.960 --> 01:21:23.079
to see this. Hey, we're
gonna do this once a year or twice

898
01:21:23.079 --> 01:21:27.880
a year. Russell Dynasty becomes a
thing, an annual thing too. I

899
01:21:27.920 --> 01:21:32.159
want to see meaningful I want to
see a rivalry. I want to see

900
01:21:32.560 --> 01:21:38.800
clean, old fashioned hate even you
know, let's make it special. That's

901
01:21:38.840 --> 01:21:46.479
all. That's all I'm saying.
Well, this was ignition, this is

902
01:21:46.520 --> 01:21:53.560
a this is our This is a
pretty interesting podcast, I thought, And

903
01:21:56.279 --> 01:21:59.920
man, I mean, it's gonna
be interesting. You know, join us

904
01:22:00.319 --> 01:22:05.119
night for all we talked, because
we're going to be talking about the Beach

905
01:22:05.199 --> 01:22:11.439
Break edition of our episode of A
W Dynamite. And I gotta tell you,

906
01:22:12.840 --> 01:22:15.279
I don't know how you guys feel
about it, and I'm sure we'll

907
01:22:15.319 --> 01:22:17.800
talk about it tomorrow night. But
if this comes through, if this,

908
01:22:19.199 --> 01:22:24.479
if this lives up the expectations,
this is what hell of a good card

909
01:22:24.600 --> 01:22:27.680
so far, and I'm sure they're
going to add probably a couple more matches.

910
01:22:28.039 --> 01:22:30.960
I wouldn't be surprised, but I'm
excited for Beach Break, I really

911
01:22:31.000 --> 01:22:35.239
am. And I've not been this
excited for for a Dynasts, for a

912
01:22:35.319 --> 01:22:41.079
Dynamite in a long time, right, Alex Oh, yeah, because this

913
01:22:41.239 --> 01:22:45.079
is this is the night they need
to really sell all in right, yea

914
01:22:48.319 --> 01:22:56.239
begun? Yeah, it's it's a
Chicago And it's one thing. I'm looking

915
01:22:56.279 --> 01:23:00.159
at the card. You gotta have
Jack Perry come out. I mean you

916
01:23:00.279 --> 01:23:03.840
gotta look at that. You gotta
have him come out. You know,

917
01:23:04.880 --> 01:23:10.479
you know, the ill will be
there. They've got a glue they want,

918
01:23:11.279 --> 01:23:14.199
so he's got to be there.
The one thing that we didn't add

919
01:23:14.199 --> 01:23:18.760
that I'm surprised nobody even mentioned,
is is Tony making a He said he

920
01:23:18.760 --> 01:23:26.920
has something special for tomorrow night.
Any ideas what that could be? Uh

921
01:23:27.800 --> 01:23:31.920
No, he did say that.
He didn't say. He didn't say I've

922
01:23:31.920 --> 01:23:34.680
got a special announcement. He just
said he had something special in the works

923
01:23:34.720 --> 01:23:41.119
for tomorrow night. So I'm kind
of thinking that maybe I'm hoping it's that

924
01:23:41.239 --> 01:23:45.720
it's the announcement of the TV deal. I don't think it's would be the

925
01:23:45.760 --> 01:23:48.520
TV. Maybe it's the announcement of
the women's tag titles. I don't know.

926
01:23:49.199 --> 01:23:53.600
But you know what's interesting though,
I'm glad you brought that upside because

927
01:23:53.640 --> 01:23:57.239
again, this goes back to the
point I just made. I'm excited for

928
01:23:58.000 --> 01:24:01.800
I'm excited for Dynamite tomorrow night based
on the card that we've got, and

929
01:24:01.880 --> 01:24:09.000
I forgot completely about Tony Kahn saying
so now I'm now I'm like absolutely,

930
01:24:09.119 --> 01:24:17.000
you know, I'm sitting here,
I'm sweating. My palms are sweating.

931
01:24:18.279 --> 01:24:24.000
Oh lord, my eyeballs are sweating. I excited. I just can't.

932
01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:30.199
Tony's gonna announce that Kelson's first match
will be it all in against Andy Kingston.

933
01:24:30.600 --> 01:24:34.399
There you go, I would I
would love to beat the ship out

934
01:24:34.399 --> 01:24:41.800
of Eddie Kingston a handicapped match.
Ladies and casts, well, look,

935
01:24:42.359 --> 01:24:46.600
look, I'm sorry, but Eddie
match that Eddie Kingston is is it as

936
01:24:46.640 --> 01:24:56.800
a handicap match? Oh as much
as you hate him, I love him.

937
01:24:57.119 --> 01:25:03.479
Hell, I can't say I I
don't hate Eddie Kingston. Yes I

938
01:25:03.520 --> 01:25:10.920
do, but anyway, I don't
want I I feel horrible that he's injured.

939
01:25:11.159 --> 01:25:14.920
I really do beat at all seriousness, I don't want to see anybody

940
01:25:15.000 --> 01:25:18.800
get injured. And you know,
I look forward to seeing Eddie come back

941
01:25:18.840 --> 01:25:26.159
so I can properly hate him,
you know, because hey it's tough.

942
01:25:26.920 --> 01:25:30.319
I mean, look at Dynamite tomorrow
night. There's no piss break matches on

943
01:25:30.359 --> 01:25:32.199
this right now. If Eddie Kingston
was on there, I have a piss

944
01:25:32.279 --> 01:25:41.319
break is going to be devastated tomorrow
night. I may be late to do

945
01:25:41.439 --> 01:25:45.199
nothing. I'll leave talk podcast to
moor Night because I may have to.

946
01:25:45.399 --> 01:25:49.840
You know, you got a couple
of times doing juice Robinson, you know

947
01:25:50.800 --> 01:25:59.159
things. Yeah, I'm only about
I'm only about three or four years away

948
01:25:59.159 --> 01:26:04.039
from from beating it diper So I
thought, you know, it's not that

949
01:26:04.119 --> 01:26:11.000
I'm old so much as that I'm
lazy and I just don't want to get

950
01:26:11.119 --> 01:26:16.000
up. So you know, are
you going to get up and for the

951
01:26:16.039 --> 01:26:18.680
piss break to our night? Well
that depends, That's what I want to

952
01:26:18.720 --> 01:26:27.479
say. Depends. Supposed to be
pretty good. Oh God, here we

953
01:26:27.520 --> 01:26:33.680
go again. Why you guys get
me riled up? I was saying good

954
01:26:33.800 --> 01:26:41.720
night, you maybe spew about my
incontinence problems. Well not the third problem.

955
01:26:41.760 --> 01:26:45.760
Man, it's too easy. Tell
you what I swear to god,

956
01:26:45.520 --> 01:26:50.439
I got sweaty ponds and sweaty eyes. I hate Eddie Kingston, and I

957
01:26:50.520 --> 01:26:55.079
have to say that he wanted it
to get well. You know, let's

958
01:26:55.079 --> 01:26:58.079
face it, I I already kicked
the ship out of discoing for an a

959
01:26:58.199 --> 01:27:00.680
once. I don't need to beat
Eddie. I have nothing to prove,

960
01:27:01.279 --> 01:27:08.399
and I don't want to kill the
guy. Because I shoot fight the machinery

961
01:27:09.079 --> 01:27:12.920
in the corner, you'd be done. Yeah. Well, this machine gun

962
01:27:13.000 --> 01:27:15.079
chops, he hurts his thighs more
than he hurts anybody else with him.

963
01:27:15.119 --> 01:27:19.920
What are you talking about? And
if he came after me with one of

964
01:27:19.960 --> 01:27:27.640
those real chops, guess what.
I freaking duck. It's like, my

965
01:27:27.800 --> 01:27:30.960
god, don't just stand there with
your teeth and your mouth. Move.

966
01:27:31.640 --> 01:27:36.840
Oh man, It's like that hip
attack from Tony's Storm that annoys me to

967
01:27:36.960 --> 01:27:41.680
death. When you see a wrestler
just scooch across the entire half to the

968
01:27:41.720 --> 01:27:45.079
half of the ring to get in
the corner to set themselves up, and

969
01:27:45.159 --> 01:27:47.840
then you got that butt coming at
you one hundred miles an hour. Move

970
01:27:49.760 --> 01:27:55.560
Come on, you know you're ruining
for all the kids. You're killing the

971
01:27:55.640 --> 01:27:58.840
k faith right now, Yeah,
I think the corner looks comfy, so

972
01:28:00.159 --> 01:28:02.600
saying that, it's more when they
hold themselves up in the rope so somebody

973
01:28:02.640 --> 01:28:09.560
can jump and stomp down on them, like, well, don't get me

974
01:28:09.600 --> 01:28:14.840
started about when somebody is standing on
the top rope and about to jump down

975
01:28:14.920 --> 01:28:17.800
on people that are standing on the
floor, and it doesn't even matter if

976
01:28:17.800 --> 01:28:23.159
it's your opponent or even your opponent
with one of your teammates, and they

977
01:28:23.159 --> 01:28:28.079
all reach up like your God or
something phraising you as you come pressing it,

978
01:28:28.199 --> 01:28:31.399
you know, and for twenty seconds
they got their hands up like that.

979
01:28:31.680 --> 01:28:34.039
Nice. Well what a move?
What do you mean what a move?

980
01:28:34.079 --> 01:28:38.640
It's a nice catch. What are
you talking about? So anyway,

981
01:28:38.840 --> 01:28:51.920
yeap, Kelson ruins cafe for everybody
right there. That's not like Kelson ruled.

982
01:28:53.199 --> 01:28:59.720
Kelson ruins KFA. Oh god,
yes, well you all did it.

983
01:29:00.079 --> 01:29:03.319
You tried. I didn't fight with
me. Okay, I'm gonna shut

984
01:29:03.399 --> 01:29:13.439
up now for ignition. This is
Kelson Alex. Good night everybody, NY

985
01:29:13.520 --> 01:29:15.279
guys, good night Kingston