It's Tuesday. You know what that means. It's time for ignition with the
a W Fan podcast team. This is Kelson and this is Alex and we
are we are now leaving Forbidden Door season. We had the Forbidden Door.
Yeah, we had Forbidden Door three. I think it's arguably the best Forbidden
Door show they've done. I know this is the first Forbidden Door show you
watched, Kelson, so you know it's definitely the best Forbiden Door I've seen.
Mm hmmm. Yeah. I think it's undeniable, very undeniable. It's
truthful. Yeah. I thought it was a good show. Definitely not the
best aw pay per view they've ever done, but it was pretty strong.
I think it was better than you know, World's End, better than the
last show they did. I can't remember what that was. Uh yeah,
I kind of liked it better than double or nothing. I didn't think it
just myself. But I'm not saying it was bad. I'm just saying I
didn't think it was close. I think it left me with a better taste
in my mouth. Oh yeah, I ordered Osmo's. I don't know if
you have that in the States. It's like Rice and Trauma, so Yeah,
that was the taste that I had in my mouth. Anyways, I
think we want to each talk about our favorite moments for Forbidden Door and try
not to repeat each other. But I'm gonna lead with what I thought was
definitely the best match of the night from Forbidden Door, which was the main
event Swerve and Osprey. I just thought, you know, Swerve, he's
had you know, four or five maybe six matches since being the champion,
like some world title eliminator matches, and he had his main event, not
mean event, but he had matches on the previous pay per views against Christian
Cage, and he had his match where he won the title vers of Samoa
Joe. I just think we never had an opportunity for Swerve to really show
everything that Swerve can do. Yeah, and in a lot of ways,
Will Osprey is like the perfect guy because he can do everything, and Serve's
a guy that can do everything. Like, they're strong, they're fast,
they can do every high flying move, their offense can look brutal. Yeah,
they compliment each other perfectly, really Yeah, and I was I was
kind of nervous going into this match that it wouldn't be everything that because they
had a you know, a big shoes to fill with this match, and
I was worried that they wouldn't be able to fill those shoes. But boy
was I wrong. You know, my worries not that I was wrong,
but I was wrong to worry. But it that way because I thought they
would. Yeah, I think you really don't know what kind of chemistry they're
gonna have together. Obviously their friends and they've had matches before aw together,
but that's like a long long time ago. I don't know if you ever
saw the video of them having their dance off. Uh No, I saw
that. Wait. I gave up watching Dancing Dancing with the Wrestlers a few
years ago. Actually, m this was, yeah, one of the first
years of Dancing with the Wrestlers. My wife kept asking me, do I
think they're going to recreate the dance off? And I said, maybe they'll
hint at it, but I don't think they'll go full dance off in their
match, and probably for the best that they didn't. But yeah, that
was definitely my favorite match. I thought it was definitely the strongest match of
the evening. There's a couple other things that were very good, but yeah,
I want to hear your guys' thoughts on what your favorite moments and matches
were. If somebody else, go ahead, because I will wrap it up
because I think I'm going to say something that maybe you guys don't say.
So wants to go next to your favorite match or your favorite moment of the
night. Okay, my favorite match was also the Swerve Osprey match, and
a very close second to that is that ladder match that went on. But
really, okay, yeah, I was surprised I enjoyed the Ladder match.
I didn't think I would, and I ended up really liking it with the
the Swerve Osprey match. Not only did I like the match itself, I
liked the I guess it's the storytelling within the match. I liked that they
at the end it seemed that they were still friends. I like the fact
that Swerve kissed Osprey. I think that that was a very close moment between
them and it was nice to see. And as far as the ladder match
goes, I liked Harry coming out with his goat's head. I thought that
was the coolest thing ever. I haven't seen Briscoe quite be himself like he
was in that match. I think he really brought his a game there.
It's unfortunate that Leo Rush got injured. I'm not sure exactly when or how
he got injured, but that that was a sad part. But that's my
that's my top match there. That you mentioned the ladder match, not that
I felt like it was a bad match, but there were so many other
good things that I'm really happy that you brought that match up because I really
do think it deserves your accolades. Yeah, I just want to add,
like they've had a lot of ladder matches on pay per views, especially the
big multi mennes, this was definitely the best. But yeah, I always
feel like filler matches usually, but this one really really brought it I thought,
so, Yeah, I agree, See I kind of don't. I
didn't. That was one of my least favorite matches. I didn't think it
was. It wasn't that it wasn't a good match. It to me,
it just seemed short. It didn't seem to go as long as their ladder
matches sometimes ago. I don't know what it was. I think it went
any longer they would all die To go vote what was your favorite though match
or moment? Favorite moment? The other night was when Calus got knocked on
his ass by Prince Nana. That was the best part of the whole life.
I loved that. I was like, go ahead, and I'm sitting
there jumping up and down on the cotch. Go go ahead and on and
kick his ass and then he stuff. I was like, man, but
I didn't really have a match that was like I mean, the final match
was great. I gotta agree with and Alex on that, but I didn't
really have a match that like stood out over any of the others. I
thought they were all good matches that they just I didn't see anything spectacular.
But yeah, I mean I can understand that. I mean, to each
their own, honestly. I mean, you're a fan. You're watching the
show. Uh, some stuff you can see his spectacular sub stuff you can
say is ball right? Some stuff you just don't like, and you know,
and that's be what a fan is. I mean, if you're a
baseball fan, you may be like, this guy sucks. The pitcher sucks,
you know, but he doesn't suck. He's a professional. You just
think you just don't like what he's doing. Maybe ever, or maybe that
particular night. So let me go move I will share what my favorite moment
is and it's gonna be a little bit different, maybe a little long.
And I apologize in advance for this, but I think it's I think it
really needs to be said. My favorite moment is to show respect. There
were a couple of reports made by Fight Fightful and I think for Wrestling Insider,
and I apologize if I got that wrong, but specific I want to
make three points here. First point was will Osprey against Swerve Strickland. Will
Osprey reportedly came up with the idea for that match because he thought it was
important that Swerve Strickland wasn't seen as a placeholder waiting for you know, Osprey
did come and beat him, you know, so that if you look at
the end of the match, as NETS said, there was a huge show
of respect between the two wrestlers, Swerve kissed will Osprey. Will Osprey worked
his ass over to put Swerve over, not taking anything away from Swerve either
because he worked his ass off too. The second one that I want to
talk about is Mercedes Monet and Stephanie Vacker. There was a report that Mercedes
Monee went into that match with the goal of making Stephanie Stephanie Vacker, and
he did. I mean a lot of people were saying throughout the match and
after the match, how great Stephanie Vacker looked. He did. She looked
great, She was smooth, she was fluid. Everything she did hit one
right after the other and it seemless fat. But you know who deserves a
lot of credit for that is Mercedes Monet. Mercedes Monet, and because he
was in the right places at the right time, and she made Stephanie Vacker
look as good as Stephanie Vacker deserved the look. And I want to give
Mercedes Monet a lot of credit for that because Mercedes Monett and Stephanie Vacker both
put on an excellent match, not just Stephanie, not just versus Mercedes.
They both did the third thing and the last thing that I wanted to point
out is and again I have to give credit to Mercedes Monet on this one.
Mercedes Monet just won the TBS title and the IWGP Strong Women's World title,
and she allowed Grit Baker to have that moment and to me, you
heard the crowd reaction her. I mean, it was a special moment and
Mercedes was did not have to do that and I think that just proved to
me that Mercedes is an a w wrestler and she is dedicated to AEW and
wants to do what's best for a W at having Britt Baker come out at
that precise moment was best for a W And I just loved it and that
those are my that's my best moments of the night. Yeah, And I
just want to add, like Stephanie Becker, she looked like the best women's
wrestler, even one of the best wrestlers periods. She was so good.
She liked a female will Osprey. It was beauty. I was literally thought
that that was just beautiful. Yeah. And the real audience turned against Mercedes
Monette because she was so undeniable and and the fact that, like you know,
Mercedes lost and that would have just killed the crowd. But the fact
that Britt showed up right after it was just so perfect. So if you
think of Mercedes Monette doing everything she can to make Stephanie look like that sets
up that moment to be so much more impactful. Like, yeah, I
think she deserves all the credit in the world. I don't know if like
her kip up when they both did the kip up. If Mercedes mone purposely
did it worse than Stephanie Vacker to make Stefan, I don't think she did,
but it made it work. Maybe she did, Maybe she did,
but it worked. You know. It's weird because after the match, Mercedes
Monett, you know, said something that actually turned off a lot of people.
And what she said was and I'm not going to repeat it word for
work because I don't know if it Basically what she said is that she had
creative control. Well, you know what, if she had creative control,
so what she did it right? She got that that match was right.
Mercedes should have won. The belt was made for her in the first place,
and she didn't just win, she put over two wrestlers at the same
time. I don't know. I don't see what the problem people have with
that, you know, I really don't. So anyway, let's let's move
on. That was interesting. I enjoyed everybody's So let's I want to talk
a little bit about the The Drunken Cowboy. You know, there was a
vignette on what was a collision. They showed the vignette. Yeah, and
uh, it was interesting. There was a few things in there that I
really saw that kind of you know, stood out. One was that,
you know, of course Hagman was drinking. The other was that his house
was completely empty, like his wife left him and took everything, you know
what, you know what I mean. So I mean, but the other
thing is is that tomorrow night on Dynamite we've got Jeff Jared against the wild
Card is the wild Card Hangman and him page? What do you guys think?
I didn't see the big yet. It sounds very interesting. It's only
thirty eight seconds long or something like that, but it's really cool. Uh
there's no there are no words. Uh, it's literally it's just literally black
and white scenes and they don't show they don't really show Hangman's face either,
but you know it's him. Yeah. Sure, been a lot more than
vignette than I did. All I got was the teeth the shirt at the
end to make you knew who it was. Other than that, I didn't
really pay I guess I really didn't pay that much attention to the surroundings.
I just knew that they were setting it up for Hangman to reappear finally.
So yeah, yeah, I don't see. I don't see how you have
I can't you know we had talked about it before when we said Rob van
Dam we had people we'd like to see as the wildcard. But I don't
see how you have anybody else but Hangman. Yeah. I mean, let's
face it. If Hangman is the wild card and they're setting him up to
join the elite and they want him to be a heel, what better way
to be a heel tod to come in and claw, do whatever you have
to do to be Jeff Jared, who just did that magnificent vignette of his
own about Heart and his friendship with on Heart, right, I just I
don't know. I loved it. I thought it was awesome. It said
a lot about Jeff Jarrett. And I've never really been a Jarrett fan.
I mean, he's been around forever, but he's never really been He's always
played that bad guy to me. He's always been a bad guy, and
it is with the guitar. Yeah, And I've never really I mean,
his original character when he was doing the stuff in WWE, when he had
was his name as the roadie, that was pretty good. But after that
I kind of moved away from him. But I don't know, to me,
I don't think that even though it was as tear, it was as
feeling invoking and as strongly done, and I can get where he's coming from,
and I'm you know, that was very powerful. I don't know if
it's gonna be enough for people TwixT spect him to do do better than the
first round. I really don't think that people are gonna expect that. Well.
I will tell you. We did make a post about it on aw
fat ub subreddit and Greatness of Wrestling's subreddit, and you be shocked at how
many people are like, oh, we need Jeff Jarrett to win this thing.
I mean they're really behind him. I mean it really is. He
really have been yet really, you know, get home with a lot of
people and it was so sod its purpose and comes up beats his ass.
Yes, it's gonna piss off people, and that's what you want story.
Yeah, I think it's gonna be great if that's what it is. I
just hope that's what it is. And we ain't making this, you know
what I mean, because we always had this idea what we think is gonna
happen, and a lot of times lately we ain't been right. So who
knows. I hope it's I hope that it's definitely Adam Paige. That would
be well, you know, we just saw repentago On forbid him out,
man, don't count him out. I'm telling you well, he got he
he he was injured. He told it. He just revealed to Day yesterday
that he was going and he was finally came back and he was he was
not injured going entrepreneur, he was, he said, I quote, I'm
ready to power bound power bombs some people, you know, which means you
know, he's an idiot. That means he's fully back. He's missing,
he's missing his other half though, come on, I mean, oh God,
put for for Mino when she's in Japan. But anyway, uh,
let's get back to the Hangman vignette. Anybody else have any anything to say
about this? Yeah, go ahead, man. Oh, I was just
gonna say, I'm excited that it's him. I think it's him. I
think the possibility of him coming back is fantastic. I've wanted to see Adam
be bad for quite a while, so I think he's going to have a
fantastic run at this. And I think there's no way to make people hate
him more than have him beat up on this nice, kind friendly Jeff Jarrett.
So I'm excited to see it. That's nice. I'm really excited.
I think Hangman left, you know, as basically ninety heel, so I
am excited to see him come back. Hangman's always been like the guy kind
of like Cody Rhodes back in the day when he was in AW. He's
like such a white meat babyface character for so long that I've always wow,
Yeah, I've always seen Hangman as the quintessential good guy character, and I
think he's been that for most of his time in ae W. Yeah,
I can see that, yeah, and it's always kind of you know,
it's just it's a guy that I've loved to hate. I respect his wrestling
ability, and you need guys like that. But I think he's really gonna
be He's really gonna win me over heel Hangman here, So I'm excited.
There's an outside chance in my mind that the wild Card, because it's been
established that the wild Card is joining up with the Elite, I think he's
gonna be like the fifth members. While the Elite said that they were the
ones that are bringing this wild card in, were they not yeah, I
believe so saw makes perfect sense that it's hang Man. Yeah, and I
think there could be a swerve in there. No pun intended that that it's
Ricky Starks, because I just think he would fit with the elite. He's
been m I A and he could be the main event guy, like the
guy chasing the world title in that group. If they're trying to confuse people,
uh yeah, go in the less likely direction, then then it could
be Ricky Starks. But yeah, it's probably gonna be. It'll be great.
Now let me let me let me expand upon that. I just want
to hear from net and Sutton on this. If it is Ricky Starks,
positive or negative? Mm hmm. I think positive. I like Ricky.
I think he has some unfinished business himself. It would be a good,
a good trick to play on the fan. And I think that it doesn't
mean that Hangman isn't coming back. He's just not there right now. That
doesn't mean he won't show up somewhere at some point, so I can I
can deal with Ricky. Okay, either way, I think it would be.
It's it's gonna be. They're gonna be with the Elite for the time
being, I don't think it's gonna be a permanent thing though either way.
Yeah, I mean, for me, Ricky Starks is I would just look
at it as a dive store hangman page. So I'm serious, I would
be that disappointed because I nothing, Ricky Starks just doesn't have the star power
that hangman page does to me. I mean not even close. Yeah,
I mean that's fair. He has not reached that level. He's not the
main event guy. Yeah, and I think he could maybe be there,
but definitely not there. Yet. Another reason for not wanting Ricky Starks there
because Ricky Starks is cursed. Wait and simple, anything that he touches,
you know, somebody gets injured or they get suspended or whatever. So I
don't want one of these guys to get injured or suspended. Keep Ricky Starks
away from them. Yeah yeah, I mean, I mean that's kind of
a stupid, funny kind of thing I did there. But it's kind of
a truth too because Rickey Starks it did a promo about it. It's like,
what the hell is going on? And every time he gets into something,
you know, somebody gets you know, it gets put the back burner
or whatever. But anyway, So, Alex, what do you want to
talk about next? Well, sorry, I just want to go one more
thing about Hangman here. So I think if he is the guy, he's
probably gonna win and go on to blooding guts against Team Swerve with Team lead,
and then probably main event all in against Swerve again. Well, I
totally forgot about a lot of guts. Yeah, I mean, Swerve makes
a lot more sense as the leader of the opposition team if you have Hangman
there as part of the elite, right anyway, interesting, Yeah, good
point. I guess that takes the store. Next point, we're discussing the
owen Hart Tourney. I wonder if you guys have any thoughts on ways that
you see this playing out. You see brand Danielson winning, do you see
Hangman winning? Jeff Jarrett, I really don't know. I don't know where
they're going with this one. Yeah, don't for that. There's also the
women's going heart too, yes, yeah, uh, well we kind of
already knew who's winning that. Who do you think, Mariah? I mean,
it's perfectly just. The design for the Wembley Battle is for her versus
uh and and and after the after the Women's world title match. I don't
think Nina's going anywhere yet. I think they're gonna do a little to be
to be a weird way to say, but they're gonna have a little three
way action there for a little while, and then at the end if the
when they they have the it's gonna come down to her and uh when Tony
and Mariah and uh Mariah may are gonna end up battling for it at Wembley
and hopefully that'll be the changing of the guard. And I think Mina is
still gonna have something to do with it. Well me and I'm just breaking
in here. Mina did do a a interview earlier today or yes late yesterday
as she was returning to Japan, and her quote was, I'm not giving
up on the aw Women's World Championship. I won't let this be the end.
That was Mina Shark Kallan. Yeah. And when she first came in,
didn't she say something about how she was there, something to along the
lines of I'm here now and this is where I want to be or something
like that. I can't say. I know she said I'm here to stay.
Yeah, So I have a feeling she's gonna work between the two,
which is good. And she has been in Japan, and in Japan she's
been expressing to the other wrestlers. You know that the other wrestlers are jealous
of her because she's not only a star in Japan, she's also a star
in America. Now that's about burfy too. I can just see that.
Oh yeah, she's been a real pain in the ass in Japan. I
convent. But on the men's side, I don't know. The men's side,
it's there's there's. I don't think there really is a clear cut winner
in my mind yet, because Pack could be there, Danielson could be there,
Hangman could be there. I mean, who's the I don't remember who
the other one is now kay wait yeah, I mean the men's side is
loaded, and the men's side is really not telegraphed. M hm. And
I think with with with with all of them, you, I mean Pack,
Pack has the ability to because he's English, so that would be the
reason for him to be at all Man. Danielson could get a chance to
get the aw world title at there, and then with Hangman they have the
rivalry. So I think it's gonna come down to one of those three.
No, I agree, and uh, it's as I said just now,
they did not telegraphed it. I mean last year on the podcast when they
were doing the Owen Hart, we all picked Ricky Stark and who won?
Ricky Starks from the get go when they did the Continental Cup tournament. Uh,
do you all picked Eddy Kingston and Eddie Kingston won? I mean it
was telegraphed. The men's side is not telegraphed. And I'm wondering if this
Mariah May is not going to win the women's side and see what happens there.
I mean it could be really interesting. Yeah, but what else?
What does anybody else think about this? I think Yeah, for the women's
side, I could definitely see Chris Statlander there, she's done her heel turn.
I think it'd be an interesting title feud. They could keep Mariah May
and Tony together a little bit longer, fighting the Chris Statlander together. And
then if they do go with Mariah May, I'm curious what you guys think
what that match would be like leading up to it? Are we gonna have
Mariah May and Tony Phil as friends? Kind of like what we saw last
year with m JF and Adam Cole or would it they they've fully turned on
each other and they're they're coming at each other. It's throats. I believe
it would be Tony. I think. I think if it comes down to
that that that scenario, I think Tony's gonna flip out. I just see
that being her, the way they turn that and and have her go completely
off the deep end. And that's why I said, you know, with
Mina still being around, that's that's where I could see that going. I
would love to see stat Lander get a shot because she deserves it just as
much. But then you can't for you can't if they're not gonna let Mariah
win it, you can't roll out Sheeta either. Oh but like I said,
it does seem like they're telegraphing it to Mariah. That may be a
swerve. This is true. Yeah, So now I mean, what are
you what are your thoughts about this? I don't see Tony and Mariah ending
their friendship anytime soon. Hey, I think that they're there to stay.
So, but I can't call it with the women's side of the the Owen
Heart, I don't know what about what about the men's what do you?
What are you feeling with the men's I'm actually kind of feeling like Jeff Jarrett
might win it really okay, Yeah, I kind of do something about it.
Just tells me he's he's gonna dig deep and really call on his friendship
with Owen and and just you know, this is going to be his last
big hurrah and he's just going to surprise us all and be a mid event
at all in it Wembley. He's going to go through everybody and just do
it all one last time. Wow, yeah, I think so what part
of me you think does that's cool idea? The other party is like,
oh god no, I can't help but think that way that this is this
is Jeff Jareded's big moment in time, and he's just he's just going crazy
for it. So the good thing is is that Jeff Jared could have been
just this random guy put in the tournament to eat a loss, but now
he's not. And so that's good booking. Yeah yeahs, And then that's
not such good booking. That's the bad part. I mean literally, because
with what his big yet was, whoever beats him is going to be a
heel more so than he was before. Yeah, And I really love that
it's for the title. It makes it a lot like if it wasn't,
if it was just for the owen Hart Cup, than sure Jeff Jarrett could
win theoretically, but him having yeah, the main event match hit all In
versus Swerve or something, I don't think that's gonna sell tickets. Yeah,
they might get they might get everyone behind him. Jeff jan he was running
wild. Yeah, he would definitely over the next several weeks, he would
definitely have to work his ass off to get that buy for for all In
because currently, you know, and I mean no disrespected Jeff Jarrett at all,
because he's been doing this for a long time for a reason. But
I don't I can't see people saying to each other, I don't know if
I'm going to buy all In at the pay buy all In pay per view,
what and you're gonna miss the Jeff Jarrett versus First Tricklet match. Oh
yeah, I gotta buy it now. I just don't. Country Music versus
Rap Music the Ultimate Battle, Oh my god, it's just so much that
you'd have to see it. If he made it that far, you'd have
to see what he was going to do. No, because no, because
no, because no, No, that would just be too many Cringey matches
all in, too many Cringey matches. It all in, oh boy.
But anyway, you look, you're trying to sell out the crowd again.
You want to make all In the biggest thing going again, and that is
definitely not going to do it. Yeah, okay, I do think Park
there's a story there just because he's British and it could be huge him competing
for the world title, Brian Danielson, him gaving his last chance. But
I'm kind of seeing him maybe in a match with Nigel McGinnis. I have
my fingers crossed if Nigel still just has some wrestling ability in there. I
saw the same idea come up, but I also think that the other idea
I saw about that makes better sense. They were talking about having uh working
it up through for Nigel to go up against him at the World's end at
the end of the year as the retirement match. I just don't see Nigel
in the ring again. I don't know. I just can't see it.
I thought he couldn't wrestle anymore. Well, he has a hepatitis is a
b or see one of the less I don't know, abc D whatever,
Z. I don't know, but you know, it's just too much of
a risk. It's too much of a risk, especially when you're talking about
all in, when you've got to go into However, here's something that I
wanted to point out about Forbidden Door, which is relatable to what we were
just talking about. There was no blading at all and Forbidden Door. So
there may been the occasional busted lip or whatever, but there was no blading.
It was a blood free pay per view, So maybe they can pull
it off. But I just think that they would be wrestling with kid gloves,
you know, maybe they'll just have Danielson versus versus Nigel McGinnis and a
yeah, in the massive pull noodle pull doodle fight. Yeah, there you
go. I mean your boot bling. I just don't see a real bets.
But however, what I could see happening uh tomorrow night. And this
is kind of a spicy prediction. If if Nigel is in the crowd,
in the in the crowd or at the announcing stable, what if Nigel pauses
Danielson the match? Yeah, I mean because during Forbidden Door. I don't
know if you caught this Nigel was saying during the Danielson match that nobody wants
to see Brian Daniels to get injured, and then he paused for a second
he said, I take that back. So so that made that little word
there, that little sentence there may allude to the fact that something would happened
between how somebody needs to stop Daniel Center saving from himself. Yeah. So
so it's it's it's very it's very interesting. How you know. Alex said
it earlier that this was probably the best forbidden door that they've had, and
it was. But they also did something this time I think different than in
past is they actually got some stuff coming out of it. They actually did
a lot of storytelling that will last after it through the pay per view that
they usually don't do with that. Yeah, like that, and then you
know that's just something that you don't usually see from a pay per view.
Yeah, yeah, I will say this, with the storytelling, I hated
the Mina Shiri Kaala Mariah May and Tony Storm ending that. But anyway,
let's move on. I want to talk about, well, there's someffective aw
signings out there. Ricochet. Do you probably pronounced is it d Jack or
die Jack I don't even know, okay, and there's Mason Mansour. Uh.
Some of them actually bed backstage at different shows. Die Jack was at
Forbidden Door backstage. Reportedly Ricochet is good friends with Will Osprey, who's been
really uh campaigning to have Ricochet brought in. Uh, Mason Mansor, I
believe we're backstage at least I think Mansour was. Uh. So what are
your thoughts. I mean, some people are saying that the aw roster is
a little bit too bloated. We're also hey, you can also add the
MotorCity machine Guns to that list, but keep in mind Mason Mansor, MotorCity
machine Guns. These are tag teams. We've just been talking last week about
the w TAC Team division. They need some new blood. I think that
would be good. So what are your thoughts about this? Okay, So,
somebody remind me about who d Jack is. I'm not sure who he
is. He's the guy that was on NXT, wasn't he Yeah, he
was on n XT. He he was in he was in the Ring of
Honor briefly before that for a few years. I he the big german guy.
I think he's like Polish or or something. But yeah, he's not.
He's not Walter or No, no, no, I know. I
know who he is in because because I was thinking they already had he.
He has some history with I can never remember his name. Don't talk about
him. He was actually with Prince back in Ring of Honor before he went
to ww E in n X team Okay, did not know that. Yeah,
and he had rivalry with the big guy that's the big giant black guy
that's there. Just yeah, yeah, they had a big rivalry. And
so do you know any of the wrestlers names. My brain's not working,
man, you know how that goes? We all, but that looks like
that guy that looked like Goldberg, but he was a lot smaller. It
wasn't. But uh, we're not talking about Gilbert, damn it. To
your point about the tag teams, though, I think that is something that
we do need. Nobody knows how long uh Dax and them are going to
be out. You know, those guys could be down for a while.
Cash is it, Cash's hurt? I can't remember one. We have no
idea how long he's going to be out. So adding the two other tag
teams would be good. Ric Ricorset is one of those guys that has been
around for a long time and is amazing in the ring. So he would
definitely be somebody that could go and would help improve the roster some I hain't
much room to improve it, but I think it would be a good thing
to have those guys. One of the things that I have heard about Ricochet,
I can honestly say that I don't believe I've ever seen him wrestle,
but I've seen a lot of comments of saying that Ricochet's style is more suited
to AW than it is the w w EEE. Is that true? And
yes, in your all's opinion, he is. He is along the lines
of Ray Phoenix Osprey. He does a lot of stuff if you wanted to
put him in that same level. He is very good above the ring and
his style is definitely more suited to AEW. Got it. Have you ever
seen Ricochet Russell alexon Nett. Yeah, I've seen him a little bit in
WWE, but I've seen him like on the indies. He's a guy that
like started off super skinny and could do like a double backflip and then he's
put on a lot of muscles, similar to Will Osprey. He's a horrible
promo. But yeah, I think he's he's I've heard that, Yeah,
he's one of the worst. Yes, I've heard that he's got the lone
falling over a tongue thing going on. Worse. Wait, wait, way
worse. What about you, Nett. No, I haven't seen him wrestle,
so I'm I'm excited to see it. I haven't watched any of his
tapes or anything in anticipation of if he does come to WWE, I want
it to be like all brand new experience. So I don't know, we'll
see, we'll see what happens. I know when it comes to like Mason
Mansour, I mean again, I have never seen them wrestle before. I
am familiar with them, but are they going to be mid card? Top
card? Lower card? And you know, look, if you bring more
wrestlers in, it seems reasonable that more wrestlers have to go out. Uh.
So that's the problem because you can't have a logjam of wrestlers with nothing
to do, just sitting in the back doing nothing. So you got to
think about that, you know. And Dye Jack, I've never seen him
wrestle, so so it's just one of those things, you know, I've
heard some good things about Ricochet. I've heard that he's terrible on the mic,
but that he's good at the ring and the high flying file. Uh,
Mason man sore. I'm not real sure about anybody knowing them at all.
I know that they're big. I know Mace was like a former football
player and he's into ANMA, but I don't think i've ever seen him wrestle,
So Okay, he's big. They might stand out in the aw But
what were they called justice? They were the maximum male models. Yeah,
they they've been going by eminem They said M and M is what they were
speculated they would come into AW as. Yeah, like I would probably enjoy
seeing them more than seeing the varsity athletes, specifically Tony Nice and Sean Davari
pick up time on TV or Aria Davari and Die Jack. He's a guy
that's he's been in there. He was in Ring of Honor and he never
really did anything special, and then he was in WWE and NXT for like
six or eight years and he never really did anything. I don't know why
or why AW would be better for him because he's not like a fantastic wrestler.
I don't think. I don't know, so yeah, I would skip
him. I would probably skip Mason Minster. And guys that have been in
AW recently that are also kind of maybe relevant are the Grizzled Young Vets.
I thought they were really good. They're one match, and I would prefer
they signed them over. I can't get behind somebody that has a stupid name,
and Grizzled Young Vets is just a stupid name. So they're already but
that just sounds stupid to be Grizzled Young Vets. What the hell does that
mean? It means that they're they're they're they're young, but they're veteran like
and they're grizzled. Oh so they're trying too hard to make themselves sound Uh
they're the ding damn it and clever. Yeah. I thought they had a
really good match on Collision, and they seem to be more of the A
W. Mold than like Mason Mansur. But I don't know, and I
call myself a babyish old part. There you do, that's fantastic, there
you what's up? Buff's seriously? I look at like, look here's the
way I look at it, and I so you've got what is it?
The Outrunners. They don't need it to ever wrestle. They're not doing anything.
They're just the low card idiots that run around and get squashed them.
They can't they can't win them. They're not going to ever win a match.
You know. The only time that they would win a match is that
they went to on one with their Pentaco maybe seriously, you know, so
yeah, but a stretch teams. You got to have those tag teams because
you can't have you can't have your top tag teams going against each other all
the time. Think about back in the day when you had the Killer Bees
and the British Bulldogs, and you had the Bushwhackers, and you had the
I don't I don't remember them at a w at all. I'm talking about
back in the day when you had the old school tag teams Outrunners. You
can't get rid of the Outrunners just because they suck. You got to have
them. Somebody that these top teams like the Bucks and you know, any
of the other teams that are top blind you can't have them going up against
each other all the time because then you get tired of seeing them. So
you gotta have the runners so they get the crap beat out of them.
So if you do the Outrunners, you gotta change their gimmick completely because the
gimmicks it's it's got its course. They're gonna end up with, don't castle,
and they're going to be a team, man telling you boys, Nope,
they're gonna be They're gonna be h a real I don't know what they're
gonna call them, but they're gonna end up being together. That's that's that's
the r o h's new triple tag team, you know, the sixth Man
or the trios team for the r o H. Now, mm hmm okay,
you can tell that. I'm just beyond excited for that. I know.
I mean, this is me excited. Did anyone anyone okay, Herbo
Floyd and what's the other one's name? Uh? No, one knows.
Nobody knows Battery Juice. I don't know one. That's a good name.
I mean when you what they've been around for like a year and you don't
even know their names. You know, Herbot Floyd. I remember because because
it's like the single dumbest name I've ever heard for wrestler. Like, I
don't know, But where did we get to this point? We were talking
about I don't know, we're talking about who were better than the outrunners.
I think that was where you were going, okay, or the or the
righteous. I'm open minded to the righteous. They've yet I really like Dutch.
He's a big looking fellow the righteous again, And it's the way I
look at it. The righteous part of the Righteous does not work because they're
boring. And you can tell by the absolute silence the crowd anytime they show
up on TV. You can hear cricket farts when when they come out,
so there's no noise at all. And it's doesn't help that their music is
god awful too, because it's so quiet that it really, you know,
enhances the absolute apathy they get from the crowd. So I mean, there's
nothing good about the Righteous at all, and I hate it. I hate
it for Lance Archer that he's stuck with them now. They may be great
guys and whatnot, Please, for the love of God, makes them interesting
or don't use them at all. Yeah, I think they need to change
their gimmick. It's kind of like a weird cross between House of Black and
the Wyatt Family. It's more like, you know, okay, everybody in
the crowd. We are now going to pass out cyanide laced cool aid drink,
and here we go, like, yes, it's working, you're saying
exactly. I mean it's not working because it's like because when I see them,
I want to drink cyanidolid. But then they got you where they want
you, like please, God, he's so far, he's been sucked so
far into the gimmick. He doesn't realize that they're doing their job. It's
yes, that's right. I'll tell you why. It's just that's the that's
the hay kids. Watch the Righteous. You'll you'll want to drink cyanide laid
and you get a Jim Jones Lookalke come out with him. Then they'd be
in good cheap Naddy, Bobby Daddy. What's cyanide? Can I have some
goodness? Oh? Cyanide son is what Nazis used to use, you know,
Oh Nazis they sound cool? Come on, oh man, see I'm
telling you the Righteous and they're like cults, mass suicides. Nazis. They
shouldn't be on TV, they shouldn't be in the a W unless they get
an entire you know, makeover. They just start a cold some all the
underused wrestlers and demand change. Yeah, I mean, come on, and
I can't take somebody. I can't take a group of people that are dressed
like mister Rourke from Fantasy Island as a wrestler. That's their that's their whole
thing. That's the colt man. Just like no, they just have a
vertically challenge. They just need to have a vertical challenge of valet. I
guess you need complete more research. Man. You got to get the research
going for the cults and see how this works, because that's what it is.
Anyway, this is way way off the rails. Told comes out dressed
like that, then you're really going to see Ye there yet add them to
the learning tree whole group after the after the show, I want your address
so I can come and give you some blade at last with cyanide, I
have my own maiden to closet. Don't worry. There you go. It
can take a few SIPs for me. Tell me how to take every day
a build up an immunity, save us. Yeah, so we had an
announcement what happens when you follow the righteous? That's right, all right,
we had an announcement. I'm changing the topic, Okay, Forbidden Door,
and I think we talked about it, Kelson brought it up. They're having
basically the Japanese version of Forbidden Door. Night two of Wrestle Kingdom is now
Wrestle Dynasty, and it's going to feature CMLL Stardom, A W and j
P W and and they had the Ring of Honor logo as well. Yeah,
yeah, I'm excited. Mm hmmm. Maybe a W wrestlers won't beat
everybody in significant matches in that one, Yeah, mm hmm. Anybody think
a certain someone might be healed up by then and make an appearance. Yes,
Oh, I didn't know the hell you were talking about. And yeah,
uh yes, I think it's gonna be a great thing. Uh.
I'm kind of looking forward to it. But yeah, it's gonna be interesting.
The only the only thing that that that that kind of for me is
that if you include R O H in add is that they don't have enough
separation. To me, R O H and a W needs to get more
separated because you see them too often. I mean, you see guys from
R OH and a W all the time, and this is dynasty. How
if you're if you're gonna, if you're gonna include Dynasty Hasty without r o
A. Well it's not hard, well, David to redo the entire graphic,
and that costs you know, tens of dollars, tens of dollars.
Yeah, Ione has to have everyone in Ring of Honor, but they could
have you know, Athena having Yeah, right, it's important. Think about
it this way, even if there's only one person from ringer Honor and there
at least it's on the graphic and people are like, oh Ring of Honor
exists. Seriously, it's a positive. When is something we should add to
that list that we didn't? Yeah, well yeah, I think yeah,
it gives because Ring of Honor, you know, the selling point is really
the female wrestlers on Ring of Honor. So that could set up a lot
of matches with stardom that could be good. Yeah. Well yeah, there's
gonna be a w wrestlers in stardom over a few months, and so it
makes perfect sense. So you're to probably see some storylines made in AW and
in Japan and Stardom for Russell Dynasty. So so you're not only gonna have
men male wrestlers going to start them for both AW not to start them,
but the NJPW from Awn Roh. But you're going to see women going to
start them from AW as well, So so it does open up a whole
can of worms. And hopefully, you know, as I said earlier,
it's not going to be one of those pay per views where AAW and Roh
is going to dominate. You know, I really would like to see some
title matches and I'd like to see some surprises. That was the only thing
that was missing to me from Forbidden Door is that there weren't any surprises as
far as the winners of the matches go. Yeah, that was something I
said to my son too. I said, so, you know, I
get the Wrestlings predictable, but damn well, you know you hear people talking,
you know, they want stories, they want less predictability. That's how
it's done, you know. And I seriously thought that AW dropped the ball
with the Mina Shehri Kalaba Mariam and Tony Storm match, and I'd like to
see them do something at Wressell Dynasty that breaks the mold. I just don't
want to see if you see the same thing happen all the time. I
mean, look how many matches were we're at Forbidden Door fourteen. I think
there was. Yeah, there was how many that didn't end like with a
really big surprise or not when you expected. I can't think of any of
them that didn't like we expected there. And you know what I'm saying.
It's like, did Paul Kyle Fletcher beating Serpenteico? Well they didn't have that
on the on the card, but if it was like the first Zero Hour
match, but yeah, they didn't. We did a poll on a w
FANA for each of the matches that have been announced. No, but we
missed a couple admittedly, like the Kyle Fletcher and Sir Pentaco match. We
asked the ask them to pick the members to pick the winners, and they
got them all right, they say it, they got them all right.
There was no surprises, you know, and that's big. It doesn't matter
if the storytelling is great, but if there's no surprises and everything is finished
after the matches, you know, I want to see. That's why I
thought it was nice with the Mina Sheri Kawa quote that I said earlier that
she's not done with the a W Women's World Championship just yet. He still
wants it. I thought that was important because it keeps the story going.
It stopped. You had a two months build up and that it's over and
everybody's hugging and grab an ass seriously, you know what I mean. Yeah,
I want to see I want to see something that I didn't see yet
ever, you know, And that's important. Yeah, and that's what I'm
hoping for, Russell Dream Dynasty. You had that quote from will Osprey talking
about or the story about why that will Osprey swears Strickland match got set up
and it was partially to kind of normalize a guy like will Ospray, like
the top stars actually losing matches to the world champion or the big names.
And yeah, I think that's something you don't really see a lot of in
AW. It's like protect all the top guys at all costs, and there's
like twenty top guys, So yeah, I think that would make it more
unpredictable if more of those guys lose matches exactly. And that's something that he
did say in that He did say that he thought he wanted to show that
even the top guys. Basically he does not exactly work for what he said,
but he did say in that same quote that he thought it was important
that top guys would lose, especially to the world champion. You know,
he's sending a message to the locker room, you know. So I think
it's important and that's you know, and I think it's extremely relevant to something
like Russell Dynasty because these aw people are going to Japan and they can't expect
And this goes for Tony Kahan too. You can't expect to send your wrestlers
in Japan to walk out of nine matches with nine winners, right right.
That's me. I personally don't want to see that. I want to see
people I've never seen before win. It's not like they're not good, you
know. I'm let me rephrase that. I want to see people that have
never before went number won before win if they're not Nito. Because that match
was awful. That was that was that was I mean, yeah, that
was. They had no chemistry whatsoever together at all. They had a match
at like a few months ago when when John Moxley won the title and it
was a lot better than this one. Well, I think it. I
think what I heard was that Nito didn't doesn't care to wrestle in America and
didn't want to have another title match in America. He wanted to have it
in Japan. So that was kind of why he was like the way it
was, that's that's hear that, But I believe Yeah, like you just
there's fans out there. Don't you just want to put on the best show.
You don't want to just look like you suck it wrestling. Oh he
was flying. Yeah, they just didn't have any chemistry. They just went
through the motions. Like a lot of these guys, the wrestlers that they're
featuring from Japan are older. They're they're well into their forties, Panahashi and
Nido, and you know, it's not fair to come down a ton of
Hashey the guy, he actually did pretty good for a guy who doesn't have
knees. Yeah, Like, you know, you watch him walk around,
it's like, oh god, oh my god. Yeah. I was like
I was like, I thought, Akdahashi walks like me on any given day.
You know. It's just like he's like bow legged. I'm not bowl
legged, but I walk like a bolt because my knees always hurt, you
know, And it's just weird. It's just weird. Seed am in the
ring. However, as a caveat to that match that Tanahashi was in,
he did win the World Air Guitar Championship based on his performance in that match,
So congratulations mm hm. And Okada won the World Air Djang Championship.
Oh yes, and I forget about that. Well, we're talking about walking
and knees. My daughter pointed out to me the way that Okada walks,
and now I can't unsee him walking with his knees kind of stuck together.
So he's a very demure Japanese. Uh, lady, I know what he's
doing there, but if you if you really watch him walk, it looks
it doesn't quite go with his stature. A bathroom, Yeah, yeah,
it doesn't quite fit him. So I don't know. Thank you for ruding
Oconda for everybody. Daughter, so everyone else now has to look and be
with you. Is she sitting there with you? Tell her on her?
I will tell her for Rudy Oconda for everybody. Gosh damn it, I
know. I was so sad I had to share it. I couldn't except
to be working, you know, Bratt. Oh, did anyone enjoy the
Cassidy Zach Saber Junior match? Really good on TV. But what did you
watch during the match? I can't remember, but it was better than I
just had, you know, be I don't say stuff that I don't mean
did not watch the match. I just didn't. I had no interest in
it. Yeah, it really turned out to be amazing, Like Orange Cassidy
just could perfectly do the Zach Saber Junior style and kind of match him.
Mm hmmm, yep, well, Jack Zach Saber Junior did say it the
media scrum. Anybody that thinks that Orange Cassidy is not a great professional wrestler
paraphrase great paraphrasing here is a effing idiot. Uh No, because I never
said that Orange Cassidy was not a great professional wrestler. I said that he
is phenomenal. My problem with Orange Cassidy is that there's two problems. He
is severely overused and all of his matches are the same. So I have
no interest in watching an overused guy that I've seen do the same match hundreds
of times, but now over the last couple of years. So I went
into that match with no expectations, not even low, and I didn't watch
it. I mean, I paid for the pay per view. I'm not
going to watch something I don't want to watch. I also did not watch
the next match, the Chris Jericho Learning Tree against whatever the hell they were
fighting, because I didn't see it because I have no interest in seeing that
guy. I think it's a stupid thing that I have no interest in.
So a lot of people feel that the same way, and a lot of
people like it. That doesn't have anything to do with me. But yeah,
and Orange Cassidy he the one guy, right, I guess him and
John Moxley are the guys that actually lost to New Japan wrestlers, and he
made Zach Saber Junior look really good. Yeah I heard that. But again,
ever, did anybody on in the world I think that Moxley was winning
that match? No, and maybe they saw the match, but it's like
nobody that I saw, even on the polls we did, thought Moxley was
winning that match. So yeah, I mean it was obvious that Moxley was
gonna lose. And yeah, the Zach Saber Junior and Orange Castidy match was
a non title match. It was an exhibition match through and through. There
was no heat nothing in that match. Who cares if Orange Castidy one?
Who cares if Zach Saber Junior one who cares it was just a match,
It's it's a good showcase for Zach Saber Jr. It shows that they have
big plans for him, probably in New Japan. Yeah, more Weddy signs
when it becomes the next New Japan wrest design. I think that that is
Tony's like move. He's like that brings me back to a question here.
You know Forbidden Door Wressell Dynasty. Are there enough n j p W men's
wrestlers to make it even worse? N JP I mean n j p W
needs help because what they put out of Forbidden Door is the best that they've
got. They're they're not very good. I don't know. I don't agree
with that they have better stuff. It's like they have better guys, but
they always want to feature and so they do have better guys. You're talking
to a guy who doesn't watch has never watched Do Japan, because when I
see it on, you know, like the dynamites and the collisions and stuff
like that. Forbidden Door. Now, these guys, I mean, Zach
Saber Junior is good. Jeff Cobb was was oppressive Jeff Cobb, and I
think it comes down to there. They bring the people that are known here
because it's it's here, it's the American, it's the it's the aw fans
that are gonna watch it, and they're bringing people who are better known instead
of bringing in the people who may not people may not know. Okay,
and I've got an I've got a counterpoint to that, Suton. Okay,
Stephanie Vacker is not known. Who were the people chanting for when Stephanie Backer
was going against Mercedes Bay in the rink? It's not it's there is no
difference because Stephanie Vacker put on a good wrestling and the other guys from m
JPW, for the most part did not. Okay, counterpoint, Stephanie Vecker
put on a hell of a show. She is not known here because she's
only been she only had one match leading up to this. Main part of
the reason, and they pointed it out during the match that they were booing
Mercedes was because you're in Long Island and she's from Boston. That's a major
reason they were booing her. Period. You take any sport in any between
New England and New York and that's gonna happen no matter who it is if
MJF was from Boston, he'd get booed like that. That's a big reason
why that happens. But here's the thing, the guys that they don't know
about. They brought in a couple extra guys. The one that was in
with Roderick Strong, I can't think of his name. Gabe, Yeah,
Gabe, he did. He's a really fun guy to watch. Zach Saiber
Junior. Most people know who he is from his rivalry with Danielson. Jeff
Kobb has been there before, Nito. You know all those guys, is
she? All those guys have been here all three times because they're the ones
that know from New Japan. And it's easier to bring those guys in like
that than to bring in all the new people and go, well, we
don't They didn't have like with Stephanie. She should have been at least two
matches. They should have had her in her singles match, and she should
have been with her tag team partner and done one of those kind of things
like they usually do with those But they didn't do that right and she she
I'm honestly, I think money was not good in that match. I didn't
I didn't think she did anything to make Stephanie look better. I think it's
opposite. Stephanie did everything to make Money look better. Because if you put
anybody else in that match with Stephanie, she looks as good as she did.
Honestly, I just I totally Mercedes Monee when I look, when I
look at what kind of wrestling I like, what makes a good wrestler.
I think it's not only what your offense is, it's what you do in
the ring to make your opponent look better. Mercedes Monee had a fantastic match
because she was in the exact right spot, doing the exact right thing to
make everything that Stephanie Vacker did look fluid and spontaneous, almost and perfect.
Stephanie Vacker could have not done what she did in that match with a lesser
wrestler. And I'm going to point out something. Look at the match as
she had with Lady Frost, who was a very competent wrestler. But that
match wasn't very good. I thought it was a good match, not compared
to Stephanie Monet. It wasn't like I said, I I am I have
I'm not impressed with Monette. I haven't been impressed with her, yet she
reminds me exactly what I expected from a WWE train, from a from a
wrestler in women's division from WW who came to AW. I would admit,
I will admit you've already said, no sense of repeating it. I would
admit that I was not impressed with Mercedes Monet until Sunday night, because if
he did everything right, he worked her butt off to make Stephanie Facker look
great, to put Stephanie Facker over no arguing that I'm sorry. Anybody that
doesn't think that, I'm sorry, but I think you're wrong. Yeah you
can. You could say that you're not impressed with Mercedes Bonet and have that,
and she's never gonna do anything obviously that's gonna make you a pressed with
her. So that is what it is. Yeah, I think Stephanie Vicker
looked like the greatest woman prestler of all time. She did in that match,
So yeah, you gotta give it to Mercedes. I thought Mercedes didn't
look as good as her, for sure, but it takes two to pull
that off. So yeah, I mean, like I said, maybe offensively,
Mercedes did not look as good as Becker, but that's not the only
thing. It's how you take bumps. It's how you set yourself up to
take bumps. It's how you work with your opponent to be fluid in the
ring. You know, it's the science of professional wrestling. You could put
two great wrestlers in the ring that have no chemistry whatsoever and don't work well
together, and even though they are great, they can have a shit match
Naito and Mack Well, like, yeah, Naito is is the I think
he's been in the twilight of his career. Possibly sure, but yeah,
just the comment on you know, the old wrestlers versus younger wrestlers that really
didn't get fully featured, like Gave Kid and the whole Bullet Club. War
Dogs are an exciting young faction in New Japan that didn't really get featured.
I think Yoda Suji, Pomu Takahashi are exciting young wrestlers that kind of got
some time but really didn't get featured. And yeah, they put a little
bit too much into Tanahashi and Isshi and in these guys, and hopefully when
they do this Japanese show, we get this, you know, Okata versus
one of these up and coming young guys whether it's Shoda and he's healthy,
or it's Yoda Suji or something like that. What about Bullet Club Gold versus
Bulla Club war Dogs. Yeah, like that has to be in their back
pocket because it's got to be. I think the guy that's the leader of
the war Dogs right now, and David Finley was like attacked and beat up
Jay Wayne on the way out. So yeah, like things like that,
which I was hoping they did here. Maybe they're just saving it for the
Japanese show, so very well could be. I'm just saying, is that
I think it's acumbent upon AW two to be prepared to lose to some Japanese
wrestlers instead of winning however a match as mini matches meaningful match as there are
on the show. And also it's coming upon DO Japan to put their best
out there. Yeah, And I don't know if that's an e W decision.
They're like, we want we want to play the hits and not have
people learn and showcase new guys they've never heard of. I don't know.
I would hope that they lean into showcasing people that are good over you've heard
of their name before, but you but you know my point is is that
I don't know if you agree with this, but I'd rather see good wrestlers
than Look what Chris Jericho fought. What just Chris Jericho had that match with
Atchet Andretti. Andretti wrestled a really good match, and that's what I want
to see. You can have an old guy in there, but I want
to see a good guy in there. I don't want to see two guys
then you know we're not going to have chemistry, you know, and a
guy that has no knees out there wrestling. I want to see somebody that's
capable. I don't care if I've never heard of them before. Yeah,
you can make someone at Forbidden Door three, and then that person can come
back for Forbidden Door four or the wrestled Dynasty Show, and then that matches
way more exciting and interesting. My point is is that, again, I
go back to Stephanie Vacker. Yeah, yeah, you not many people knew
who she was, you know, But now there's a post on aw fan
hubb that right now that says, hey, should it should Tony Khan sign
Stephanie Vacker? Hell yeah, she's fantastic. That's what you want. If
I nobody saying, hey, does anybody wanted do you think Tony kan should
sign nothing against she? But he's not one of those guys that is going
to spark, you know, uh, a riot for people to to sign
him. You know, it's he's an older guy. Sure people may know
his name, but that doesn't mean anything if you can't wrestle off to his
what his name established, you know, and that's stuff to get against him.
But look what he was in the ring with. Yeah, unless New
Japan's afraid of someone doing well and then Tony Khan paying them ten dollars that
I think when they go to Japan, you're going to see a lot of
the younger guys because they it comes down to also, you gotta fake travel
issues too, because you know that that's something else you have to take him
to effect coming to America. Just like when we go over there. There
might be some that won't be able to go, but they'll have their main
people. I think I think it'll be the opposite when you go to Japan.
I think that a lot of the guys from the Japan are gonna win.
I hope. So I I really want to see this become an exhibition
I want to see it become a rivalry. That's my point. It's too
predictable right now and forbidden door. I mean, if you can get every
match right, you get every match right. There's just a way, no
way around it. It's predictable. I want to see rivalries. I want
to see this. Hey, we're gonna do this once a year or twice
a year. Russell Dynasty becomes a thing, an annual thing too. I
want to see meaningful I want to see a rivalry. I want to see
clean, old fashioned hate even you know, let's make it special. That's
all. That's all I'm saying. Well, this was ignition, this is
a this is our This is a pretty interesting podcast, I thought, And
man, I mean, it's gonna be interesting. You know, join us
night for all we talked, because we're going to be talking about the Beach
Break edition of our episode of A W Dynamite. And I gotta tell you,
I don't know how you guys feel about it, and I'm sure we'll
talk about it tomorrow night. But if this comes through, if this,
if this lives up the expectations, this is what hell of a good card
so far, and I'm sure they're going to add probably a couple more matches.
I wouldn't be surprised, but I'm excited for Beach Break, I really
am. And I've not been this excited for for a Dynasts, for a
Dynamite in a long time, right, Alex Oh, yeah, because this
is this is the night they need to really sell all in right, yea
begun? Yeah, it's it's a Chicago And it's one thing. I'm looking
at the card. You gotta have Jack Perry come out. I mean you
gotta look at that. You gotta have him come out. You know,
you know, the ill will be there. They've got a glue they want,
so he's got to be there. The one thing that we didn't add
that I'm surprised nobody even mentioned, is is Tony making a He said he
has something special for tomorrow night. Any ideas what that could be? Uh
No, he did say that. He didn't say. He didn't say I've
got a special announcement. He just said he had something special in the works
for tomorrow night. So I'm kind of thinking that maybe I'm hoping it's that
it's the announcement of the TV deal. I don't think it's would be the
TV. Maybe it's the announcement of the women's tag titles. I don't know.
But you know what's interesting though, I'm glad you brought that upside because
again, this goes back to the point I just made. I'm excited for
I'm excited for Dynamite tomorrow night based on the card that we've got, and
I forgot completely about Tony Kahn saying so now I'm now I'm like absolutely,
you know, I'm sitting here, I'm sweating. My palms are sweating.
Oh lord, my eyeballs are sweating. I excited. I just can't.
Tony's gonna announce that Kelson's first match will be it all in against Andy Kingston.
There you go, I would I would love to beat the ship out
of Eddie Kingston a handicapped match. Ladies and casts, well, look,
look, I'm sorry, but Eddie match that Eddie Kingston is is it as
a handicap match? Oh as much as you hate him, I love him.
Hell, I can't say I I don't hate Eddie Kingston. Yes I
do, but anyway, I don't want I I feel horrible that he's injured.
I really do beat at all seriousness, I don't want to see anybody
get injured. And you know, I look forward to seeing Eddie come back
so I can properly hate him, you know, because hey it's tough.
I mean, look at Dynamite tomorrow night. There's no piss break matches on
this right now. If Eddie Kingston was on there, I have a piss
break is going to be devastated tomorrow night. I may be late to do
nothing. I'll leave talk podcast to moor Night because I may have to.
You know, you got a couple of times doing juice Robinson, you know
things. Yeah, I'm only about I'm only about three or four years away
from from beating it diper So I thought, you know, it's not that
I'm old so much as that I'm lazy and I just don't want to get
up. So you know, are you going to get up and for the
piss break to our night? Well that depends, That's what I want to
say. Depends. Supposed to be pretty good. Oh God, here we
go again. Why you guys get me riled up? I was saying good
night, you maybe spew about my incontinence problems. Well not the third problem.
Man, it's too easy. Tell you what I swear to god,
I got sweaty ponds and sweaty eyes. I hate Eddie Kingston, and I
have to say that he wanted it to get well. You know, let's
face it, I I already kicked the ship out of discoing for an a
once. I don't need to beat Eddie. I have nothing to prove,
and I don't want to kill the guy. Because I shoot fight the machinery
in the corner, you'd be done. Yeah. Well, this machine gun
chops, he hurts his thighs more than he hurts anybody else with him.
What are you talking about? And if he came after me with one of
those real chops, guess what. I freaking duck. It's like, my
god, don't just stand there with your teeth and your mouth. Move.
Oh man, It's like that hip attack from Tony's Storm that annoys me to
death. When you see a wrestler just scooch across the entire half to the
half of the ring to get in the corner to set themselves up, and
then you got that butt coming at you one hundred miles an hour. Move
Come on, you know you're ruining for all the kids. You're killing the
k faith right now, Yeah, I think the corner looks comfy, so
saying that, it's more when they hold themselves up in the rope so somebody
can jump and stomp down on them, like, well, don't get me
started about when somebody is standing on the top rope and about to jump down
on people that are standing on the floor, and it doesn't even matter if
it's your opponent or even your opponent with one of your teammates, and they
all reach up like your God or something phraising you as you come pressing it,
you know, and for twenty seconds they got their hands up like that.
Nice. Well what a move? What do you mean what a move?
It's a nice catch. What are you talking about? So anyway,
yeap, Kelson ruins cafe for everybody right there. That's not like Kelson ruled.
Kelson ruins KFA. Oh god, yes, well you all did it.
You tried. I didn't fight with me. Okay, I'm gonna shut
up now for ignition. This is Kelson Alex. Good night everybody, NY
guys, good night Kingston