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Today's guest, Joshua Lewis, comes
with an unusual resume. Joshua communicates with

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the dead. Now. I know
that's not the remarkable part, because mediums

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have been doing this for centuries.
However, Joshua does it using his smartphone.

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Yes, you heard me right,
there's an app for that. Welcome

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to the Afterlife Files, where we
investigate near death experiences, shared death experiences,

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and all things after life and how
they affect you. Unlike podcasts that

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are just stories, we will give
you a heads up on what to look

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for in our conversation, and then
after the interview, stick Around will help

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you make sense of those accounts so
that you can incorporate the insights into your

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life. I think you'll find that
having your most profound questions answered, living

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life in the physical is filled with
more peace. And here's our bio.

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Joshua Lewis struggled to understand the world
around him and his purpose within it.

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Following a simple spiritual path, he
would come to understand his purpose in a

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very profound way. In twenty twelve. His intuitive nature drew him to seek

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the truth regarding paranormal events and the
existence of an afterlife. What he got

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was Wuhei more than he bargained for. As his intuitive abilities developed, he

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discovered he was able to communicate with
souls on the other side. With his

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new group Hope Hope Helpers of Paranormal
Abilities and his intuitive ability, he dedicated

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his time to helping stock spirits crossover
as well as grieving people looking for closure.

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Then, using a wide array of
technological devices combined with his intuitive means,

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josh has been able to successfully reconnect
many people with their loved ones.

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As you watch this extraordinary interview,
here's a couple of things I want you

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to listen for. First, his
explanation of how itc or instrumental trans communication

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works. Surprise me. That wasn't
what I expected. See if you have

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the same reaction. I love how
he communicates with entities using his intuition.

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I took notes on how he uses
his astroroom and intend to give it a

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try for myself. Then stick around
until the very end. During the last

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ten minutes, he shares with us
some of the visual confirmation he's been able

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to acquire. It's really wild.
This is definitely a new look on an

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old practice. Here's our interview with
Joshua Lewis and welcome, Joshua. We

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are really glad to have you with
us here at the Afterlife Files. Oh

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it's awesome, Scott, thank you. It's an honor. So you are

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known for talking to the dead using
instrumentation of some sort, and you know

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you just don't wake up with that
talent. So why don't you give us

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a little a brief story about how
you got to this point where we are

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today. Well, you know,
it's a good it's a great thing to

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bring up. You know, I
think of it often. I think of

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how ridiculous this must seem to so
many people, and even to me at

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times, you know, because I
still am a logical person. I still

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have you know, I'm not.
I'm not you know, completely gone yet,

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you know I I I still am
grounded and I like to use reason

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and logic and all of those things. So, you know, I mean

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just this, you know. The
skinny of it is that I I started

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really getting into the paranormal as a
novice, you know, just buying some

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basic pieces of little cheap you know, radios and recorders and things, you

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know, and going out to cemeteries
and haunted locations, very traditional paranormal hunt

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ghost hunting, you know, okay, yeah, and and and you know

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that's that's really And we started recording
very basic responses, Hello, I'm here,

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where where's the light? Get out? You know, two three word

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phrases. So you would get those
kinds that would say, get out,

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I don't want to talk, that
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no talk or something, you know, very basic. But then you would

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get some that really asked for help, or they would say, you know

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your name or they would say their
name. So that was very interesting that

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I could not get over. I
was recording that. I wasn't watching the

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show. I wasn't taking someone else's
word for it. I was capturing this

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stuff myself with others with me.
You know, a medium came along once

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and she was getting stuff without giving
her anything. Because I didn't really trust

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mediums either. I didn't really know
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mediums. I watched John Edwards crossing
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you know, and I thought that
was interesting. And then at the end

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of the show there would be this
fine print that like it wouldn't say it

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was fake, but it would say
this is for entertain and because they had

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to but that that created doubt in
me, you know, and so I,

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you know, by doing what I
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out stuff. And then this medium
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we got already, you know,
she was getting things on her own of

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information that we recorded. And shortly
after working with her, we started,

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you know, my partner Nicki and
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own intuitively. So we started to
get a thought, a feeling, and

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we would say it and then the
box would kind of it would a response

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would come through validating what I just
said or what NICKI said or whatever.

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That caused me to go work with
Debralyn Katz, who was Deberlin Cat's PhD.

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She's an amazing woman and she's an
intuitive teacher and I worked with her

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and she really brought out my intuitive
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became one of her you know,
good you know, best students, I

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should say, and I was giving
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you know, it's great stuff.
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look at the progression from ten years
ago from when I started to now,

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and you hear the recordings then to
now, it is almost like I'm just

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recording almost conversations. Now now it's
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There isn't all this staticy and it's
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perfect still, but it's been you
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advanced instrumental transcommunication, and it is
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So it's pretty it's pretty wild,
that's all. Like I mean, I

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don't know, I can keep going
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And well, what I know about
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that it depends upon you know,
what your view of life is and what

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your view of the afterlife is.
So doing this work for the last ten

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years, you know what happens when
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well it's interesting. So I started
capturing evidence in thirteen twenty thirteen,

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and I started getting a wide gamut
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was getting some negative stuff, but
I was getting a lot of positive stuff,

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you know, I was getting you
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mixture of things. So but then
I started intuitively picking up stuff and there

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it felt like as I was capturing
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intuitive information that I was getting personally, it felt like hell is a place

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more of our own creation. It's
in a sense of our minds, you

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know, are the way we live
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So people that are doing bad things, they may not go down to

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a fiery, burning hell with a
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might be their own worst nightmare or
a feeling of some kind of repetitive you

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know, dealing with the guilt and
the regret. At some point, if

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they deny that, they can just
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be in a sleep. But at
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at some point they're going to they
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They're going to have to come to
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the karma of their own actions.
People that didn't live very spiritual but weren't

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had people didn't give the spiritual side
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living in the world, the job, the car, the house, the

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clothes, the status they get to
the afterlife. I feel based on what

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I'm getting, and they're kind of
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not in a bad place but they're
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the ultimate place. They know that
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be some living amongst you know,
there might be some coexisting amongst the living

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for a bit until something opens up, you know, for them, or

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they decide to maybe ask for some
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living connected, working on themselves,
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their life, some kind of connection
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the light seems to be there present
right when they're in they're when they're passing,

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and that light will stay there.
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away, they can kind of see
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There's kind of this like process of
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But then you know that they need
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and ascend to a higher, a
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I get that people are coming back
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communicate, they're coming back to visit, but they must return back and ascend

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to a higher place again. And
they talk of it as being a very

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amazing place. I've heard eating it's
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light, there's our loved ones,
there's there's a higher power. Many mentioned

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Christ. They meant, you know, the gurus. What's interesting about is

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that I felt this information prior to
finding I knew of this, this,

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this guru, this man. But
in eighteen I finally read this book Autobios

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Yogi, and I begin been on
our pa. I think everybody's past at

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one time or another, right,
and so sometimes it sits on the bookshelf,

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but you won't read it until you're
ready. You know. It's kind

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of like when when you're ready,
the teacher appears, and and and so

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I found yoga Nanda, and I
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been practicing for three years now.
And what he talks about in this book,

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the book that Steve Jobs made sure
everyone at his funeral had, the

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book that George Harrison made sure to
give out as gifts and said it's the

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most important book and you should read
it every year, and many more.

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He talks about all of the things
that I've been finding out through my scientific

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research. He has gone even further, and it's almost like his work confirmed

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my work. So I felt like
I really found you know, I love

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Jesus. That's my you know,
I'm not talking about the religious guy.

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I'm talking about, you know,
the one, the Master, the ascended

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Master, you know, the one
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You know that that that one.
But you know, Yoga Nana talks about

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this. He has a quote and
I'm going to paraphrase it very very loosely,

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and he says, death is not
the great escape. It's not the

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great escape that we think it is. If that was the case, then

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let us all go to the ocean
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But he goes, that's not the
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you are who you are in the
after or in this life, and you

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are in the afterlife. So to
do the work. Now do the work.

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Now Here is the place and the
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I firmly believe that someone could ascend
to heaven while they're alive. The vibration,

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you're on the level, you're on, what you're thinking, what you're

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putting, what you're doing. So
it's almost like when someone passes, they

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don't have to ascend to heaven.
It's almost like they're kind of there already.

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If they die in a frantic state, they're taking that with them.

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If they're dying with regret and anger, they're taking that with them. You

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know, the Buddhists in the Tibetan
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They talk about how they work.
You know, they stand around a monk

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when it's his time for passing and
try to help guide him so there are

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no distractions and nothing pulls them away, no fear pulls at him as he

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is moving into that next realm.
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there is a purgatory, if you
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There's higher levels. So you mentioned
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out recording in cemeteries and then later
you were record doing some other recordings with

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it with a box, right,
what is a box? Well, it's

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important to understand. It's important to
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any working with a recorder, working
with you know tools, those those dowsing

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rods, as something as simple as
that, a pendulum, working with a

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radio box that scan stations. You
know, any of these things are instruments

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and we're trying to use the instruments
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instrumental trans communication, interdimensional trans communication, and that has been worked on for

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over one hundred years now. You
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worked on an apparatus to communicate and
was I think very successful. I think

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he I think, you know,
he didn't come out with it because everyone

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thinks you're crazy. Mainstream science can't, you know, is not up to

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the level of they're not there yet. They don't want to accept this stuff.

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Even with places like the Monroe Institute
and other amazing you know bics out

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in Vegas and other places that are
trying to do different things in parapsychology departments

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and institutes. It's it's getting better, but we're still at the point where,

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you know, but these guys,
you know, in Tesla, Constantine,

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Ronovu, I'm drawing a blank Jurgensen, Frederick Jurgensen. So all of

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these people were using radio waves,
using radios, apparatuses, recorders to record

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voices from thin air. You know, whether or not people were ready to

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classify it. They were ready to
classify it as spirits or or or loved

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ones or whatever. But they were
getting intelligent. Marcello Bacci is one that

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is you know someone in Italy that
in the two thousands nineties he was doing

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stuff. He had this radio and
he would take the transistor communicator out of

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the radio, not allowing it to
receive any station, so the only thing

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you would hear would be ssh and
he called in number of people that he

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let observe, and you know,
and then you know, the same thing

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would happen each time. One thing
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is that what it's doing is it's
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or it's it's using the sound just
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mean, it's kind of hard for
me to explain all of the spirit Box,

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but to try to give you a
simplest answer, it really started out

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with those guys using stuff. Then
there's Frank Sumption. Frank Sumption created something

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which was a radio, but it
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M or F M radio and it
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or a it would skip. And
so what he would do is an automatic

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tuner and it would it would skip
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you would choose so you could choose
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just like taking a radio and you
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and you never you know, just
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hear yeah, and that's and that's
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would happen. The problem is people
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going to be You're just getting you
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And I'd say, yeah, that's
possible. Sure, you get false

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positives, you get a word that's
coming through and it could be a false

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positive. I think a lot of
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these little radio boxes and they're out
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hearing these random words, that a
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and trying to time it and pluck
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words kind of like bumblebee and transformers. He's using his it's that part he

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uses the you know, his stations
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I found out through my own research
is that they're taking bits and pieces of

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the sound and forming their own responses
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was able to prove that was by
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chopping it up into little pieces,
reversing it, slowing it down, so

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I could make a track of just
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them to use, but you don't
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because then it could come through and
it won't be the spirit you might

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think. You know, it's so
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that. So I would take this
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box with a little bit of echo
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sound wave, and they would take
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giving me responses, responding to my
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vague, or they're veiled, or
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It's not always direct. Yes and
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stuff. But you know, sometimes
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it's a little off. But the
bottom line line is it's amazing it's and

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that there's no way for a word
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if a word does come through,
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it. So that's pretty much what
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using voice recorders, I'm using sound
banks, I'm using radio boxes. You

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know, I'm using you know,
cameras to pick up you know, visual

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evidence as well. So there's a
number of things. I'm trying to use

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multiple tools to validate what I'm getting
an I personally am you know, everyone

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is. We are our own best
piece of paranormal equipment. We are.

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We have to go on the intuition. We are all psychic. We all

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have the ability to tune in.
We all get gut feelings, intuition hunches.

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We all think of someone before the
phone rings and it's them. It's

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all happened to us before. These
are simple basic psychic you know, you

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know, things happening that everyone can
tap into. And I've been playing with

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your app for a couple of weeks
now, and I'm sure you've heard this

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before. So following directions very clearly, you know, something will come across

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and you go, how'd that go
again? You know, trying to decipher

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what what the words are yep,
can be a little difficult. So what

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kind of hints do you have for
me? Well, that's really something that

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you really it's like, you know, they asked Ted Williams, one of

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the best hitters in baseball, probably
the best hitter in baseball to ever you

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know, live, they asked him
to teach that, and he and he

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was a horrible teacher because he just
he goes, I just do it.

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You see it, you do it, you hear it. You know.

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I just took a whole class,
eight weeks masterclass, teaching people, you

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know, over twenty individuals how to
do what I do. And when it

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came to the part of really how
you know, teaching them how to review,

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I taught them the process. I
gave them some tips on using the

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app. You know, don't open
it for as long, really try to

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just like when you're opening the gate, the little noise gate, you want

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to just go almost like this,
just like literally like the minute you get

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there, you want to come right
back because you're only allowing like two seconds

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worth of sound to come out,
and you're hoping that they can use that

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short bit that maybe they're not saying
more. Some responses are cut off because

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of how long we're opening that gate. But why don't we just open that

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gate and just leave it open?
Well, you know, why would we

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do that? You know what I'm
saying, because well, I did it.

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I experimented everyone should. Everyone should
open it up and see what's going

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on. Turn on the reverb,
turn it off, see what's going on.

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First of all, let me just
say this is a free app that

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I created, you know, over
almost two years ago now at this point,

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it's been an amazing journey. And
it's been a compilation of other people's

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boxes that I've used, and I
just put everything that I've used and I

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put it together and I created my
own sound banks, and I add the

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reverb. That's all in there,
and it's got a feature where you can

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record the stuff in house. You
can in app, you know, you

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can hit record, you ask the
question without the gate open. You say,

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hey, it's me Josh, is
anyone here, and then you would

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open that gate for just literally one
to two seconds at first, okay,

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and a little bit of sound is
going to come out, and then you

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can stop your recording. The chances
of you hearing it in real time is

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not going to be good, even
for me. If you watch any of

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my sessions, I'm only getting about
thirty percent of what's being said in real

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time. Oh and those are so
yeah, yeah, so I mean hard

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time for not getting it all.
No, I know and and and you

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know you, I mean, you
know it's getting better. I mean there

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are guys and people I know that
are just great at hearing in real time.

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But there's a problem with that is
that sometimes when you are talking as

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if you can hear it in real
time, you can say, oh,

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I think you just said this,
I think I heard this. But to

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respond and act as if that's what
they just said knowing is dangerous or I

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don't say dangerous, it's it's it's
not right to do because you can go

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back and listen and you might hear
something a little different. We're looking for

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clear, direct replies, and it's
possible, especially when we intuitively connect strong

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in a strong way with that soul, with that spirit you know it's a

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loved one. The chances are that
they may come through better than a random

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person you're asking for because of the
connection they have with you. They got

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a bond with you, they got
a bond with the device, and when

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hearing it, there's really no secret
to hearing it other than make sure you're

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recording it and then go back and
listen and just kind of sit there and

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close your eyes for a moment and
try to listen to the first couple times.

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If you're listening four or five times, then you need to take a

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break, walk away. I had
a very you know, I don't say

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famous, but I guess a big
forensic audio expert out there, Ed Primo.

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He's done some of the biggest you
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He's done some the airplane taste and
all kinds of you know, He's

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worked on some really high profile cases. And I was able to work with

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him on a couple different you know
occasions, and I sent him my voice

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recorder that you know, had you
know EVP on it electronic voice phenomenon.

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It's not the box, it doesn't
need sound. It's just a little voice

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recorder made by Panasonic thirty bucks,
and you know, you can record really

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amazing EVP with So I sent that
to him for him to analyze, and

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he goes, yep, he goes, there's something on there. I'm not

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able to tell you it's saying exactly
this. It sounds like human cadence,

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it sounds like human speech. I'm
going to analyze it against yours. And

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and you know your speech, and
we're going to see and he goes,

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yeah, and he goes, the
best way when listening to responses, he

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goes, you don't want to listen
for more than two hours. That's you

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know, really it really sets you
know, your ears the hairs and your

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ears get tired, they start to
lay down, you know, you close

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your eyes. You listen within the
first couple of passes, and if you

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don't get it, then you move
on and you go on to something else,

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and then you come back. And
then he goes, you want to

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come back with fresh ears. Try
listening to these things during the day,

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not at night when you're tired,
and you you know, it's better to

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be daylight listening. You can try
with headphones. You can try without the

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external speakers. When using this app
in my box, it does seem to

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be better to listen with external speakers
because you're not listening to a faint whisper

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and it kind of cuts out some
of the reverb. After recording it and

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it's through an external speaker, you
know, you're listening it just you know,

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and eventually, as you do this
a little bit more, you know,

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you kind of get that ear for
it, and you start to really

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pick up more and more. But
you know, opening that gate for very

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little, just a second and then
closing it a little bit of sound is

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going to give you a better chance
of hearing the response, because it's not

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going to be super long, super
difficult. It's going to be either something

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or it's not. Have you found
a difference in the quality of the speech

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if it's as a guide versus a
dead relative, you mean the quality as

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far as so if I'm talking to
someone more well known or a random person

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you meet, Is that what you
mean? No, a dead person versus

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say, my assigned guide who may
or may not have had a human embodiment.

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Oh, gotcha. Guides use it
well. I have guides that are

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using it well. I have a
team. I think it's very important that

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I mentioned I am not this.
This is not a sole act here.

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I am not by myself here.
I have a number of others on the

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other side, whether they're listening in
on this interview now or not or whatever.

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But they're in on the sessions and
they're very active, and they're you

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know, very helpful and amazing.
I just very blessed. So they can

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use the devices they speak pretty well
through it. But someone that has passed

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recently, within a few days,
within a few weeks, someone that might

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have a lot of raw emotion,
maybe because they've just died for whatever purpose

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maybe they have you know, they
can really use the box. They can

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really use the box some distigual vibratory
energy from the physical plane. It isn't

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yeah, I mean they must still
yeah there. I mean, you know,

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I could speculate. It's just all
speculation on that, you know,

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as far as but I mean,
it seems like they're taken. They've got

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a high amount of still like almost
human energy they've got, you know,

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raw emotion. Emotion is big.
I know that when I'm trying to connect

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to a spirit or when I'm trying
to talk to a spirit, if if

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I'm not coming through that or if
they're not coming through that, well they'll

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say connect. You have to connect. Connecting is the biggest key. Psychic

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ability is huge. There was a
guy I forgot his name. I even

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mentioned him in my book, and
I forgot exactly what his name was.

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But he created this device of speaker
box, you know, spirit box,

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and he was using it and then
he was getting amazing results and then he

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would give it to some other people
to try and use scientists to kind of

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check it, and they weren't getting
those same results. So they came up

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with the you know that they deemed
that this was something fraudulent. And he

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said, no, he goes,
I'm the operator. It's got I have

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to connect with it. And to
a scientist, that's that's fooey, that's

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that's not that's not scientific. We
can't if we can't replicate it, if

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they can't replicate it in controlled environments
with anybody over and over again, then

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it's really not you know, it's
a just you know whatever. So I

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mean, I get that, but
this guy, you know, the latest

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scientific research says that they the outcome
is based on the observer and you know,

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and it's the consciousness of the observer
that makes that drives the outcome.

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So I now we're we're now with
that. You're citing that, Where is

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that from? Because that's really I
mean, as far as the general consensus

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and mainstream science is now, that
is that what we've reached to. Because

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I've seen many things on quantum theory
and you know, just you know,

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it's it's you know, spooky action
from Afar, as Einstein called it.

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You know, so there's a Schrodeger's
box, you know, the dead or

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alive, and it depends upon And
we know that from all the remote viewing

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work that's been done, you know
that you have to have double and triple

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blinds because if somebody knows what the
target is, it can it can drive,

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it can influence the person who's doing
the remote viewing. Sure, I've

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done some remote viewing. I've done
some I've been you know, Deva has

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taken me through that, and I've
been very successful with some targets. That's

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not what I focus on, but
I just I find it. I've worked

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with I've done telekinesis, I've I've
I've I've worked extensively on on moving things

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and doing things, and I've had
some great success that I talk about in

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my book and show some videos.
That's really amazing. How are you at

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bending spoons? I didn't. I
didn't work on bending spoons. I really

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worked with I worked with more of
the wheel. I worked with different you

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know, paper foil under under you
know domes and under you know, bowls

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and things from a distance, and
and I had some really great success standing

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across the room and and moving it
one way and then stopping it, moving

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it another way, and and it
took some build up. It took some

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time to get to that point,
you know, and you know, but

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it's it's been really, it's been
really amazing. So, having listened to

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00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:15,320
several of your interviews, yes,
it's coming to me that to use this

408
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:24,559
app Well requires good questions. Okay, and you know, because I I'm

409
00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:28,639
watching people and say, do do
you love me? Dad? You know?

410
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:34,280
Yes, About fifty percent of the
responses have to deal with some sort

411
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,320
of emotion about how they care for
each other they don't, or you know,

412
00:34:37,679 --> 00:34:44,719
what are you doing in heaven?
Dad? But there's I noticed that

413
00:34:45,079 --> 00:34:52,400
when you use well, not yes, no questions, that requires the spirit

414
00:34:52,480 --> 00:35:00,519
on the other end to actually use
sentences and to fill out thoughts. I

415
00:35:00,599 --> 00:35:06,440
found those much more compelling. Sure
of course they are I love. But

416
00:35:06,559 --> 00:35:09,199
it just it strikes me then that
when you go in to use the app,

417
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:14,440
that you know you've got a list
of questions ready to go, because

418
00:35:14,639 --> 00:35:16,119
you can. You know, the
first time I used it, I could,

419
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,599
I just got all emotional. The
first time I'm thinking that, oh

420
00:35:20,639 --> 00:35:24,039
my gosh, I've connected with the
loved one, and then all of my

421
00:35:24,199 --> 00:35:29,199
questions just flew out of my head, you know, right right, That's

422
00:35:29,679 --> 00:35:34,559
what I mean. That's the thing. You may get someone on the other

423
00:35:34,679 --> 00:35:38,599
side that's willing to work with you
on an analytical way, or in an

424
00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:43,480
analytical way, or in a way
that is more you know, scientific,

425
00:35:43,519 --> 00:35:49,320
that they'll try to really show up
to give you some definitive answers based on

426
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,199
whatever it is you're asking an event, what's you know, whatever it is

427
00:35:52,639 --> 00:35:59,360
about where someone might be all that
stuff, and we'll get some great stuff.

428
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,519
We'll get some great stuff. But
when you're really when I'm really trying

429
00:36:02,519 --> 00:36:07,639
to bridge a loved one to a
loved one here and one over there to

430
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:12,719
one over here, that's when the
best stuff really comes through. Because you

431
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:17,320
know, one of my probably one
of my, if not my favorite movie

432
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:27,679
is Interstellar. Christopher Nolan is a
genius and he's my favorite filmmaker and Interstellar.

433
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,000
I watch it every year, just
kind of like the book Autobiography of

434
00:36:30,039 --> 00:36:36,199
a Yogi, like like Interstellar is
that movie for me that just hits all

435
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:42,719
all of those pieces for me.
And you know Anne Hathaway's line in there

436
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,920
when they're heading out, you know, to the to the wormhole, and

437
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:52,320
she says, you know, love
is the only thing that can transcend time

438
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,960
and space. It's the only thing
that we know that can transcend you know,

439
00:36:55,039 --> 00:37:00,559
time and space. And I go, yes, and that's exactly right,

440
00:37:00,679 --> 00:37:06,199
because that is what is allowing a
lot of this kind of communication to

441
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:10,880
happen. It's love. It's the
love that we have. Yeah, And

442
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,800
it's I'm telling you. When the
love is there, the communication is there

443
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:23,440
when someone is in pain and grief
and just needs to hear their loved one's

444
00:37:23,519 --> 00:37:27,840
words something to get them, and
it does, and it just can't be

445
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,039
so vague sometimes you know, it
has to be something, but it also

446
00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:37,719
doesn't have to be some long detailed
response. Sometimes it could be something very

447
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:42,559
simple that that person will know once
they hear it. Oh no, no,

448
00:37:42,559 --> 00:37:45,519
no, that's my loved one,
because that's what they would say,

449
00:37:45,559 --> 00:37:50,000
how they would say it, or
whatever it is. So it's love and

450
00:37:50,039 --> 00:37:54,039
that's really what it is. And
you know I'm going to hear I'll just

451
00:37:54,079 --> 00:38:00,000
say this that I think some of
my best work, if not my best

452
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:04,920
work, I've done some amazing sessions
and everyone I've reached out to First of

453
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,599
all, I got to say,
there's no way for me to prove one

454
00:38:08,679 --> 00:38:14,559
hundred percent that I am speaking to
these actual people. When I reach out

455
00:38:14,559 --> 00:38:17,079
to a loved one, when I
reach out to a celebrity or well known

456
00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:22,760
person because people requested them or whatever, there is no way for me to

457
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:27,840
prove. So I am no way
claiming one hundred percent that this is this

458
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,679
person. What I'm doing is I'm
intuitively connecting. I am setting my intention,

459
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:37,199
I'm seeing them, I'm communicating in
my mind, and then I'm turning

460
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,800
on the box and whatever I get, whatever I hear, I tag.

461
00:38:40,519 --> 00:38:44,320
You can say that you don't hear
what I tag. That's fine too.

462
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,920
It's not fact. Not every caption
is fact. I'm giving you what I

463
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:51,400
think it is, and then I'm
showing you the results. So it's up

464
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,480
to you, guys to decide whether
I connected with that soul or not.

465
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,159
But you know, I think the
best work some of the is that I

466
00:38:59,199 --> 00:39:04,559
did when I reached out to Gabby
Petito. Now Gabby is someone you know,

467
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,679
the young girl that was missing kind
of grip the whole country. I

468
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:13,519
tried reaching out before her body was
found. With that case, I got

469
00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:16,239
that she was dead, she was
lying outside. I got that Brian did

470
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:20,760
it, that he escaped. I
got all of that information prior to that

471
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:27,679
being released, you know, affirmatively
in the news. I got that that

472
00:39:28,559 --> 00:39:30,239
you know he did it he hit
her in the head, which he did.

473
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,360
That didn't come out till months later. It was strangulation at first,

474
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,800
she said it. So facts came
out before authorities released it. She said

475
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:44,000
he was dead, that he shot
himself before it was released in the news.

476
00:39:44,039 --> 00:39:51,480
So she was coming through extremely strong, probably one of the strongest I've

477
00:39:51,519 --> 00:39:55,800
ever had anyone come through with that
being said. While she was doing that

478
00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:00,960
giving us real information, I know
sounds crazy, but her and I were

479
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:08,440
bonding in a very unconventional way.
I never knew that there was a way.

480
00:40:08,519 --> 00:40:13,360
It was like, we have this
now, this friendship now, and

481
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,880
I call on her at times and
I'll ask for her through the box.

482
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:21,960
I just got done asking for her, and she she comes through. She's

483
00:40:22,039 --> 00:40:24,719
clear, and she says, I
miss you, I miss talking to you.

484
00:40:24,719 --> 00:40:28,000
You know, I have a love
for you, you know, and

485
00:40:28,039 --> 00:40:30,599
that is really special. Like I
feel that I say the same thing to

486
00:40:30,679 --> 00:40:34,280
her now. I don't know.
I never knew her in real life,

487
00:40:35,039 --> 00:40:37,559
but it feels like I did and
I do. So there is some connection,

488
00:40:37,679 --> 00:40:42,039
there's a there's an amazing So it's
not a loved one. I didn't

489
00:40:42,119 --> 00:40:45,519
know her, and there are friends
and people that I've passed that I've talked

490
00:40:45,559 --> 00:40:50,320
to that are that come through very
strong. I had a follower of mine

491
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:55,760
that followed for a long time my
work. He died of COVID that night.

492
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,400
I reached out to him. Strong
believer in Christ, and I reached

493
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:06,119
out to him. It was like
a phone call. I heard maybe sixty

494
00:41:06,159 --> 00:41:10,960
percent of it in real time.
He was clear. He answered almost every

495
00:41:12,039 --> 00:41:16,920
single question very directly, not you
know sometimes these vague, non sequitor type

496
00:41:17,039 --> 00:41:20,639
responses that you go, well,
you know, what the heck does that

497
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,079
mean? You know, he was
very direct. So you know, the

498
00:41:23,159 --> 00:41:28,320
connection that him and I had,
or her and I had, it's something

499
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,599
now that we created. It really
created. It allowed for some top notch

500
00:41:32,679 --> 00:41:42,039
class a communication. I think that's
really important that there. Just to reiterate

501
00:41:42,079 --> 00:41:47,119
what you said that there needs to
be an emotional connection between you and the

502
00:41:47,199 --> 00:41:54,599
person who's make that transition. Yes, and I know that, you know,

503
00:41:54,679 --> 00:41:59,800
for those of you that have been
watching this channel for a while that

504
00:42:00,519 --> 00:42:06,760
share death experiences, you know,
when somebody goes with somebody who's making their

505
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:14,079
transition. That's the primary qualification that
there needs to be an emotional connection between.

506
00:42:14,159 --> 00:42:17,119
Are you talking about when like a
wife dies and a husband dies an

507
00:42:17,159 --> 00:42:22,239
hour later? No? No,
oh, shared it? Okay? Sorry?

508
00:42:22,559 --> 00:42:28,719
Yeah, So the wife dies and
when she leaves her physical body for

509
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,360
the last time, husband who's sitting
in a chair next to the bed,

510
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:40,559
will leave his physical body and accompany
her up into the light. They and

511
00:42:40,679 --> 00:42:47,760
he experiences all of the elements of
a shared death experience. That's really amazing.

512
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:52,239
I've heard the term. And there's
so much to this that I still

513
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,880
do not know. Even though I've
been doing this ten years and I've written

514
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,920
a book and I've worked on a
lot of facets of it, there's still

515
00:42:58,079 --> 00:43:00,559
so many things. And I don't
claim to be an expert, you know.

516
00:43:00,599 --> 00:43:04,239
So that's really amazing. I've heard
that. So that's what's happening that

517
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:07,519
there, and then he comes back
into his body and yeah, and then

518
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:15,000
you know, they have a chance
to say goodbye in that space or it's

519
00:43:15,039 --> 00:43:17,760
a gift to be able to go, you know, with them through the

520
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:23,639
tunnel that already and go through the
past life review, and that is something

521
00:43:23,679 --> 00:43:28,199
else and which with the past.
You know, all of that is very

522
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:34,599
real as far as what I'm getting
on my end reincarnation life review, you

523
00:43:34,639 --> 00:43:37,400
know, choosing aspects of the future
when you're coming back, when it's time

524
00:43:37,679 --> 00:43:42,840
going to school. On the other
side, there's schools, there's there's objects,

525
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,760
there's things that that it's not you
know, they're in a finer uh

526
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:52,079
you know, grosser form, but
you know they're vibrating at a higher level.

527
00:43:52,159 --> 00:43:55,280
You know. I know that there's
something very interesting in my intuitive work

528
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,760
with Debra, we talked about thought
forms, creating thought forms, you know,

529
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:02,559
and and we create these thought forms
and we can destroy them and whatever,

530
00:44:02,599 --> 00:44:07,760
and that you know, even an
iPhone is a thought form because it

531
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:10,719
came from a thought and then it
had to be brought into this into this

532
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:15,760
realm. But what's interesting is that, you know, when I do my

533
00:44:15,920 --> 00:44:20,519
group sessions for my patrons, asking
for up to fifty people in a session

534
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,039
one night, it's kind of like
a gallery group session that I'll do.

535
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:31,920
I don't I envision going out,
going up into my headspace. It's like

536
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,280
a cave like my bat cave,
and then I go there's like a like

537
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:42,159
a third eye window, and I'll
go through my my astral light body that's

538
00:44:42,199 --> 00:44:45,119
a little smaller. I shrink it
down so it can fit in my head,

539
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:50,239
and it will go out of the
third eye across a platform to a

540
00:44:50,519 --> 00:44:54,079
floating astral room. And in that
room is where I do my sessions,

541
00:44:54,199 --> 00:45:00,960
is where I invite the spirit to
come to. And it's very interesting because

542
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,599
I started doing this on my own. I didn't know and no one told

543
00:45:04,639 --> 00:45:07,480
me to do this. It just
started coming. And then they started talking

544
00:45:07,519 --> 00:45:10,960
about that. They were helping to
create this room. And then as I

545
00:45:12,159 --> 00:45:15,960
was doing these sessions, you will
hear so I start saying, like I'm

546
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:21,320
opening the door, and then I'm
walking in, and then I'm setting up

547
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:27,360
chairs and I see these wooden chairs
and there's a table. They started commenting

548
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,159
on the thought forms. They started
telling me they were at the table,

549
00:45:30,519 --> 00:45:35,159
they were sitting in the chairs,
they were going through the door. At

550
00:45:35,199 --> 00:45:38,519
one point you could hear the door
opening and closing. There's no door sounds

551
00:45:38,559 --> 00:45:43,360
in this app or any other,
you know, so there are sounds from

552
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,119
the other side that are coming through. They're commenting on astral thought forms that

553
00:45:47,199 --> 00:45:52,320
I'm creating. That is mind blowing. That is mind blowing to me.

554
00:45:53,199 --> 00:45:58,760
So, Josh, were you're talking
about the the people on the other side

555
00:45:58,760 --> 00:46:01,280
are commenting on your yes, yes, not that other people in the in

556
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:05,199
the room. No no, no, no no no. I'm talking about

557
00:46:05,519 --> 00:46:09,840
the the deceased loved ones are coming
and talking about. One guy said,

558
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:15,559
one of the chairs broke. Then
I created I had these old wooden chairs.

559
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:19,239
I don't know why I created these
old wooden chairs. I just thought

560
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:22,199
it would look cool. I thought
it was cool. They complained about the

561
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:28,000
chairs. I swear, Scott,
it's so crazy. I created new chairs,

562
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:32,519
metal chairs with a with a padded
seat. And they go, oh,

563
00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:37,840
he's got new chairs. So they've
talked about this, they go one

564
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:43,360
guy, one voice says, where's
the table. We're getting the table out.

565
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,599
It's like someone put the table away. I don't know what to tell

566
00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:51,880
you. I don't know. It's
so freaking nuts, but it's real,

567
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,320
Like I don't know. One of
their invitees is a neat nick and they

568
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:59,559
had to fold up and put the
table off in the closet between sessions.

569
00:46:59,679 --> 00:47:02,360
I get so, I guess,
so that's too funny. Oh, it's

570
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:07,840
awesome, This is fascinating. So
where do you think this is going to

571
00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:13,920
go next? I mean I was
hitting, you know, I didn't know

572
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,559
where to I didn't know where to
go with this. All I kept doing

573
00:47:15,639 --> 00:47:21,519
was doing sessions. I did my
intuitive training. I worked at California Psychics

574
00:47:21,559 --> 00:47:24,679
for two years as one of their
best readers because I just wanted boot camp

575
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:30,960
type training. I wanted, you
know, to just thrust myself into getting

576
00:47:30,159 --> 00:47:32,679
enough people to come to me so
I can get reading, so I can

577
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:38,320
do readings, get that experience.
I've done over three thousand readings for people

578
00:47:38,679 --> 00:47:45,159
without boxes, just psychic readings,
okay, medium ship readings, and then

579
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,920
and then now now I'm doing box
sessions. But I was posting everything to

580
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,880
my channel, which I have,
you know, one hundred and fifteen thousand

581
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,920
almost you know, on the channel, and like three hundred and thirty thousand

582
00:47:58,039 --> 00:48:01,480
on TikTok, and I share my
clips on there. And I never thought

583
00:48:01,559 --> 00:48:05,400
a forty one year old man was
going to have a TikTok, but I

584
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,320
guess I do because it's there's a
it's it's a great avenue to share this,

585
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,480
you know, this work, and
but I said, I kind of

586
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,599
prayed, and I said, God, what am I supposed to do?

587
00:48:14,679 --> 00:48:15,880
Like, where am I going with
this? What am I supposed to do

588
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:22,199
with all of this? And I
got, you know, create an app,

589
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:24,519
write a or write a book,
create an app, and start holding

590
00:48:24,599 --> 00:48:29,719
live events. The book, of
course I had to charge money for the

591
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:32,480
app would be for free, to
give everyone an opportunity for free, to

592
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:37,960
to try and connect with a loved
one if they wanted. Events. I'm

593
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:42,920
going and you know, hitting different
cities. I've done Saint Augustine last August.

594
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,480
I've got New Orleans coming up this
August. I'll have Savannah in the

595
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:52,559
beginning of twenty twenty three. And
I'll just keep trying to add events.

596
00:48:52,159 --> 00:48:57,000
And I'm doing group sessions, I'm
doing private sessions, I'm doing readings,

597
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,199
and I'm teaching these classes, and
I I don't know what else to do

598
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:05,440
other than maybe another pot or like
a podcast like you're doing, or something.

599
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:10,159
I'm doing these interviews. What I
did find out is that there's always

600
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:15,719
something more coming down the pike,
and I just keep having to trust and

601
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:22,960
ask for the guidance to you.
I will say this, I had a

602
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:29,320
friend contact me recently his mother,
whom I know in a long time.

603
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:34,119
I've known him a long time,
and his mother had a couple of mini

604
00:49:34,159 --> 00:49:37,880
strokes and he had to take her
to the hospital and there she had a

605
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:42,559
major stroke and then she had a
seizure. She had to be intubated,

606
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,599
and he called me upset, and
he didn't ask me to contact her.

607
00:49:45,639 --> 00:49:49,199
He was just kind of like I
just a'm upset and he was calling as

608
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,159
a friend. She didn't pass I
mean, she was in a coma,

609
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:55,159
I mean at the hospital. I
got off the phone with him, and

610
00:49:55,559 --> 00:50:00,119
something told me to reach out to
him or to her her, even though

611
00:50:00,119 --> 00:50:05,599
that she was not deceased. I
just felt that calling to do that.

612
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,679
So I went in my office,
I turned on my box and I focused

613
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:14,440
on her psychically, and I saw
her in the hospital bed and I said,

614
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:17,280
Aida, I know you know it's
me Josh, And she knows who

615
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:21,880
I am. And I said,
uh, are you there? And she

616
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,880
goes yeah, And I said,
how are you doing? Are you are

617
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,599
you? Are you okay? And
stupid question. It's kind of like a

618
00:50:28,679 --> 00:50:31,519
human question you ask everyone you know
when you get I said, she goes

619
00:50:31,559 --> 00:50:37,320
not today, very clear very clear. Not today, Yeah, and she

620
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:38,760
had a she goes. I said, what have you seen? She goes

621
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:45,159
a long hall away, she goes. I at the end, I said,

622
00:50:45,199 --> 00:50:46,320
well, what do you want to
tell your family? And she goes,

623
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:51,400
just put me in a bed in
hospice. So she was able to

624
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:57,800
come through my box before leaving her
box, I mean, before fully leaving

625
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:01,639
her body. But she was in
a way she was able to communicate with

626
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:07,000
me, just as any spirit on
the other side was able to very definitively,

627
00:51:08,199 --> 00:51:13,800
very clear. And I told my
friend what she said. It was

628
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:16,400
hard for me to convey that message
to him. A day later, he

629
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:21,239
was putting her in hospice as her
dying wishes was, you know, and

630
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:23,800
there was nothing more that they could
do. And I asked for her again

631
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:28,039
and she's like yeah, she's like, I'll come through again. I like

632
00:51:28,159 --> 00:51:30,079
this. She goes, I like
this, you know. So she confirmed

633
00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:34,360
that she would speak through there,
and then he called me the day that

634
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,800
she passed, and I contacted her
right after and she goes, I'll be

635
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:44,000
back soon, you know, really
happy, really positive. She goes,

636
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:46,440
I love this place. It's fine, it's good. I'm okay, you

637
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:50,519
know. The video's on my channel, so it's you know, it's all

638
00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:54,280
there and people can watch it.
But it's it's an amazing So there's work

639
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:59,599
to be done here. There's more
to discover. If everyone that was in

640
00:51:59,639 --> 00:52:04,519
a cone, what could have a
chance to communicate. I have now communicated.

641
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,679
As weird as it is, I
don't know how it's happening. I

642
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:14,840
don't know how it's happening, Scott. But I've had animals, people's pets

643
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,519
that they've they've picked up the app
and they've used it. They put on

644
00:52:17,559 --> 00:52:22,519
a child voice, they pick a
child voice in the app in one of

645
00:52:22,519 --> 00:52:25,360
the sound banks. It's just no
words, it's all just gibberish, and

646
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:30,679
they'll ask for their animal, and
their animal will I don't know if it's

647
00:52:30,679 --> 00:52:39,400
the animal coming through, but responses
that are pertinent and directly relating to what

648
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:45,400
the person is asking are coming through. Yes, it's me, I love

649
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:50,400
you, I'm here, I'm around
you all the time. These are the

650
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:55,880
kinds of responses we're getting, and
it's it's it's just remarkable. I'll just

651
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:01,119
I'll say this really quickly. You
know, after the home A case and

652
00:53:01,159 --> 00:53:05,719
I saw WHOA, we can really
communicate with souls that are you know,

653
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:09,039
not even or that are still in
their bodies. A woman lost her cat,

654
00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:12,840
a follower of mine, and she
asked if we could you know,

655
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:15,119
if I could tune in to it, and so I was tuning in and

656
00:53:15,159 --> 00:53:22,360
I asked on my app and it
said felt sick. The cat ran away

657
00:53:23,519 --> 00:53:28,119
and she wanted never been out of
the house ever in like ten years or

658
00:53:28,119 --> 00:53:30,880
whatever the case is. And I
asked for the cat and it says felt

659
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:36,360
sick very clear. I said,
like, where are you are you?

660
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:39,639
You know? Where are you?
Right now? Said reached woods? And

661
00:53:39,679 --> 00:53:42,639
I asked the woman, I said, are there woods around you? And

662
00:53:42,679 --> 00:53:45,199
she goes all around my house.
It's woods all around my house. So

663
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:49,400
the next couple of days that we
were doing a group session to reach the

664
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,199
loved ones, and she wanted to
put the cat on the list, even

665
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,280
though she didn't know if the cat
was dead or not or whatever. And

666
00:53:54,360 --> 00:53:59,480
so I was asking my guides about
the cat and one of my guides says,

667
00:54:00,119 --> 00:54:02,960
the cat's name, says the cat's
name and says, says, body

668
00:54:04,159 --> 00:54:08,960
is coming back tomorrow. That's what
the that's what the guide said, body

669
00:54:09,079 --> 00:54:15,800
is coming back tomorrow. Didn't you
know the next day the cat walks back

670
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:23,559
to the house, comes back to
the house. You know. So you

671
00:54:25,679 --> 00:54:31,880
and the technology, do you see
that evolving as well? Yeah, well,

672
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:36,440
I mean as far as you mean, like with me, or or

673
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:40,320
with my technology, or with the
technology in the world. Well, I

674
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:45,960
was asking specifically about you, but
in the world I'm assuming there's other people

675
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:51,920
who are meaning yeah, I mean, I mean as far as where we

676
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:55,400
were ten years ago to now.
I mean, it is conversational now.

677
00:54:55,559 --> 00:55:00,519
Before it was gappy, it was
just one or two words. Now it

678
00:55:00,599 --> 00:55:04,880
is getting better. I'm also not
I mean, in addition to the audio,

679
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:10,119
I'm capturing amazing visual evidence. I
mean I'm capturing I'm using water to

680
00:55:10,239 --> 00:55:15,159
capture spirits, faces, water it
c. I'm using oh, whoa,

681
00:55:15,159 --> 00:55:20,199
whoa, how does that work?
I've not heard of this water it c

682
00:55:20,599 --> 00:55:23,079
oh man, hold on, let's
see if I can show you something here.

683
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:30,480
Okay, so if we look at
this, So what I'm doing is

684
00:55:30,599 --> 00:55:36,760
what what we have is. I
will take a bowl of water and I

685
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,039
will fill it up with water.
I will then put a light either to

686
00:55:40,119 --> 00:55:45,519
the side of the bowl or underneath
the bowl. Okay, Well, and

687
00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:50,840
I will connect intuitively, ask for
a spirit to come in with me,

688
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,800
work with me here, and I
will then put my hand in the bowl

689
00:55:53,960 --> 00:56:00,440
and I will agitate the water,
creating waves. That starts to work the

690
00:56:00,559 --> 00:56:07,760
light, and within that distortion of
light, a spirit can appear and show

691
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:14,360
their image. It's been done many
times. It's like scrying. There's different

692
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,719
ways of doing it. So this
is right here. You can see.

693
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:21,239
This looks like the bottom of someone's
face. Looks like a chin, a

694
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,719
nose, lips, It looks like
a woman coming through. You know.

695
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:30,679
People ask me about aliens, and
I have picked up responses about et in

696
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:35,679
my sessions many times. I even
had one say the other day they've been

697
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,760
here many times they say they've said
that the spirit said that to me.

698
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:43,320
I was asking for spirit. This
looks like an alien head. I mean,

699
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,559
two eyes, looks like the nose. It looks I'm going to show

700
00:56:46,559 --> 00:56:50,920
you something really amazing here, Scott, hold on. This could be an

701
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,679
alien. We don't know, but
check this out. This is a baby.

702
00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:59,880
We were asking for a child,
and here it looks like a child's

703
00:57:00,039 --> 00:57:06,280
face, two eyes, nose,
mouths, swaddled in cloth. Amazing.

704
00:57:06,559 --> 00:57:09,719
Some of this stuff is really amazing. I've captured here. You can see

705
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:16,360
now in addition to water itc I've
captured an apparition I use. I use

706
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:22,239
a night vision camera and I'm using
a backdrop, a black backdrop. This

707
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,960
is just a ring light. But
you're over here, you'll see a face

708
00:57:25,079 --> 00:57:30,320
appear and then disappear. It's a
side profile of a woman with her mouth

709
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:37,280
open, really wild so full face
apparition will appear right there. So you

710
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:43,840
see that face. It's a side
profile, nose, mouth open now and

711
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:47,079
the eye and it just appears and
then it disappears. And what's interesting about

712
00:57:47,079 --> 00:57:52,360
this. I was asking for this
woman at the time, and it was

713
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:55,320
for it was for a patron.
And when and when the face appeared,

714
00:57:55,480 --> 00:58:00,519
and I was asking for the woman. The woman the patron of mine as

715
00:58:00,559 --> 00:58:04,880
she saw the follower saw it and
goes, oh my god. She goes,

716
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:07,639
I have a picture of the girl
you were asking for that looks very

717
00:58:07,679 --> 00:58:13,000
similar to this image, and she
sent that to me. Let me see

718
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,840
if it's there. So this was
the woman I was asking for. Her

719
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:23,719
name was Nicole. And you can
see that there's a resemblance there. I

720
00:58:23,719 --> 00:58:28,639
mean, it's kind of crude,
but again you know. You can see

721
00:58:28,679 --> 00:58:31,079
that there's a resemblance there. And
this is the woman. This is the

722
00:58:31,079 --> 00:58:36,639
woman I was asking for at the
time when this apparition showed up. Okay,

723
00:58:36,679 --> 00:58:39,960
I was asking for this guy's father. And here you'll see I did

724
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:45,760
in a little outline. But these
faces start to appear. These this was

725
00:58:45,800 --> 00:58:49,280
a man. You could see it's
like his nose, his mouth, his

726
00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:54,719
chin, his hair. There's a
child. This looks like a child right

727
00:58:54,760 --> 00:58:58,679
here. I was asking for a
child to come through. Oh sure,

728
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,320
it looks like a young earl.
You could see the bangs and the eyes

729
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:06,559
and yeah, it's very distinct.
There. Let's see what else I've got

730
00:59:06,599 --> 00:59:09,960
for you here home on that's orbs. So there's a lot of ORB activity

731
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:16,119
and there's orbs that will you see
this white patch on my hair it went

732
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:21,000
white. That was an ORB strike. Huh yeah, yeah, that was

733
00:59:21,039 --> 00:59:23,800
an ORB strike. Man. Look
boom. You see then orb coming right

734
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:28,679
out of my head. Yeah,
man, you see these orbs coming right

735
00:59:28,679 --> 00:59:31,400
out of my head. Now there, these orbs will come in and out

736
00:59:31,639 --> 00:59:36,400
as they're as there. As I'm
communicating with them through the group session.

737
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:40,559
You can see again, this ORB
comes right out of my head. Yeah

738
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:45,960
up, boom. Now you'll see
also right here. This is one of

739
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:50,719
the first times I captured an ORB
shooting out of my head. In the

740
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,400
same spot, I was doing a
cemetery session. I was reaching a wrapper

741
00:59:54,599 --> 00:59:59,239
that was shot violently, you know, it's a violent you know, murder,

742
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:00,880
and I was trying to reach out
to him for his fans, and

743
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:06,960
I was at his spot, his
gravesite, and I don't know who if

744
01:00:07,239 --> 01:00:10,280
the boom right out the top of
my head. Now you can see one

745
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:16,039
kind of this one's shooting across and
it's almost like this guy comes out to

746
01:00:16,159 --> 01:00:19,840
like ward it off or I don't
know. So you can kind of see

747
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:24,280
this guy moving across. Hold on, see this. There's like this ball

748
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:30,840
right here moving right across and then
boom, it shoots up and it comes

749
01:00:30,039 --> 01:00:34,199
normally. You know, I'm showing
the diagram of where the third eye,

750
01:00:34,199 --> 01:00:38,039
the pineal, you know, gland
is. Look at this one. So

751
01:00:38,119 --> 01:00:42,159
this is cool. Check this out. You can just heah, They're just

752
01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:46,119
everywhere. Okay, check this out. This is probably one of the best

753
01:00:46,159 --> 01:00:50,960
pieces of evidence I've ever captured with
an ORG. You're going to see a

754
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:57,079
ball of light move from my book
bookshelf, bookcase here, and it's going

755
01:00:57,159 --> 01:01:00,559
to go in here, it's going
to go behind this wall and then shoot

756
01:01:00,599 --> 01:01:06,679
out the wall. You're literally going
to see an orb move through matter.

757
01:01:13,559 --> 01:01:16,480
I don't know. It looks a
lot like vaping to me. It looks

758
01:01:16,519 --> 01:01:23,400
like what vaping. Yeah, like
someone's blowing a smoke ring through a throughlf.

759
01:01:23,679 --> 01:01:29,320
How great is that? The last
thing I'll show you, if I

760
01:01:29,360 --> 01:01:30,679
mean, we're probably at a time, but the last thing I'll show you

761
01:01:30,719 --> 01:01:36,679
really quickly, if if, if
you don't mind, is the best piece

762
01:01:36,719 --> 01:01:39,320
of water it s that I've ever
captured. And that was when I was

763
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:44,360
asking for Gabby. I was asking
for Gabby to come through in a session,

764
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:51,199
and I asked her if to see
if she would come through and show

765
01:01:51,239 --> 01:01:55,119
herself. So check this out.
This is the most amazing piece of evidence

766
01:01:55,440 --> 01:02:01,079
I've ever It's just absolutely insane.
This is the original photo. I have

767
01:02:01,159 --> 01:02:05,599
the original photo on my iPhone.
I took it with my iPhone, so

768
01:02:05,599 --> 01:02:08,639
I have the original photo there with
the metadata and everything. It's not altered

769
01:02:08,719 --> 01:02:14,159
or anything. What I did this
I asked Gabby to show herself, and

770
01:02:14,199 --> 01:02:19,960
I actually, in real time saw
this face appear and I snapped it,

771
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:23,280
and that was it. That's actually
on video in a session that I did,

772
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:27,360
so it's on YouTube. You can
actually see me doing this, taking

773
01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:32,119
this. A lot of times spirit
will show themselves as an already taken image

774
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:37,639
that's already been taken of them.
That's and they do that for the purposes,

775
01:02:37,639 --> 01:02:43,519
I believe again, for verification.
Oh sure. And so I go

776
01:02:43,679 --> 01:02:50,159
online and I start looking for images
to kind of compare to this, and

777
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:54,320
I find this image of Gabby,
only it was reversed. What I find

778
01:02:54,480 --> 01:03:00,360
is every time a photo matches up
to something I've taken in the water,

779
01:03:00,119 --> 01:03:06,039
it has to be reversed. So
maybe it's like the mirror world. I

780
01:03:06,039 --> 01:03:09,039
don't know why, but it normally
has to be reversed. So I flipped

781
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:14,239
this photo and then I put it. I made it, you know,

782
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:19,639
transparent, the opaqueness, and and
I matched it up and it matches up

783
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:24,920
perfectly. It matches up perfectly with
the original image. It's exact. It's

784
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:30,360
an exact. So people will only
say two things. They'll say, oh

785
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:34,559
my god, that's the most amazing
thing I've ever seen, or holy cow,

786
01:03:34,599 --> 01:03:39,480
what a fake you are? Like
how ridiculously fake? That's impossible.

787
01:03:39,719 --> 01:03:44,599
You're gonna tell me that this woman
came through and showed herself as an already

788
01:03:44,639 --> 01:03:47,079
taken image off the internet. I
don't know what to tell you. I

789
01:03:47,119 --> 01:03:52,480
have the original photo and you know
it's unaltered, it's unshopped, you know,

790
01:03:52,559 --> 01:03:57,880
it's it's there. And there's many
other photos that I have of water

791
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:01,679
itc that are similar like this.
So it's just absolutely remarkable. I can

792
01:04:01,719 --> 01:04:05,679
go on and on and on.
Well, we don't have the kind of

793
01:04:05,679 --> 01:04:10,519
time to go on and on and
on. And I know that you have

794
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:15,159
an event or events coming up.
Yeah, this would be a good time

795
01:04:15,159 --> 01:04:18,480
to do a commercial. Oh okay, Hope Paranormal dot com. That's where

796
01:04:18,519 --> 01:04:24,000
you can find all things Hope related, the book, the app, the

797
01:04:24,079 --> 01:04:28,800
event's future classes. August twenty sixth, twenty seven, twenty eighth, New

798
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:35,599
Orleans Hilton, an old Masonic lodge
temple that is where the Hilton is.

799
01:04:35,639 --> 01:04:40,000
Will be there and we'll be hitting
some other spots and I'll be doing a

800
01:04:40,079 --> 01:04:44,880
lecture, I'll be doing an investigation. I'll be doing a gallery group session

801
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,599
reading for everyone. So it's going
to be a great weekend. That sounds

802
01:04:47,639 --> 01:04:51,519
like fun. And Joshua thank you
for taking the time to be with us

803
01:04:51,519 --> 01:04:58,679
today absolutely sharing all things hope.
That's my honor. This has been just

804
01:04:58,719 --> 01:05:02,719
a blast, So thank you very
much. And for those of you watching

805
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:06,400
this episode, stick around because I've
got a couple of ideas that I think

806
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:19,559
you'll find interesting. That was an
amazing interview. I have some thoughts on

807
01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:23,800
what he said. Just to be
clear, these are my viewpoints, but

808
01:05:24,079 --> 01:05:28,239
that's why you watch the Afterlife Files
to gain perspective by using more than one

809
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:34,559
lens with which to view this rich
information. First off, what Joshua is

810
01:05:34,639 --> 01:05:40,280
trying to do reminds me of where
near death research stood thirty years ago.

811
01:05:41,599 --> 01:05:45,559
Itc looks promising, but it still
has a long way to go before it's

812
01:05:45,599 --> 01:05:54,679
easy to use and easy to understand. Using this app actually reminded me of

813
01:05:54,719 --> 01:05:59,440
our honeymoon in Scotland when Anne and
I would talk with a native scott I

814
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:02,320
could see the mouth move, I
could hear the speech. I knew it

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was English, yet I couldn't understand
a word. My ear just wasn't tuned

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to the local dialect, and clearly
joshuas had time to tune his ear to

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ITC's speech. The technology is bound
to get better. What did help me

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was his confession that he gets about
thirty percent of what is spoken. That

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made me feel better. Second,
his realization that an emotional connection is really

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helpful in locating and getting good communication
from the person on the other side.

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We found this with shared death experiences
too. Third, in general, his

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findings mirror what we found in NDE
research and in using the meditation techniques that

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we have honed here at the Expanded
Awareness Institute. Last, I love the

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fact that he can commune gate with
people in comas. When itc is more

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easily understood, it will open up
vast opportunities for the care of these individuals.

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I do hope that videos such as
this can give you some insight on

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what near death and shared death experiencers
discover about the afterlife, the nature of

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consciousness, and how to live your
life more fully. If you've not already

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hit that subscribe button, I would
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I have six albums that you can
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other side is to participate in our
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has two live trainers, twenty five
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the distinct advantage of support group,
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to go down below and look the
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links will take you to the information
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the skill set that you'll learn.
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That means this course is perfect for
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will benefit. Okay, so you've
had a close look at itc and its

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potential to communicate with the dead.
I hope you're curious and download the Hope

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Spirit Box and give it a try. Reminder, have a series of questions

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ready to go and record each one
separately. This allows you an easy way

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to play the responses over and over
to decipher this otherworldly communication. If you're

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watching on YouTube like Subscribe and Common, you can find the Afterlife files and

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