WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.839 It's time to talks for its signs for the show. You hear this song 2 00:00:03.919 --> 00:00:08.880 on the radio, it's time to tune in better reccess. Let me get 3 00:00:09.119 --> 00:00:23.719 that line photograph. Sports Talk Radio starting now. What's up everybody, and 4 00:00:23.920 --> 00:00:29.199 welcome to episode two hundred and nine. Let me get that photograph. My 5 00:00:29.280 --> 00:00:32.679 name, of course, is Drew or the d H and joining me and 6 00:00:32.759 --> 00:00:37.759 my awesome co host mister Scott rap Upore. What up, dude? What's 7 00:00:37.840 --> 00:00:40.200 up? Dude? The number of the day is not too nine. The 8 00:00:40.280 --> 00:00:45.920 number of the day is twenty thousand. And if you know, you know, 9 00:00:46.200 --> 00:00:50.240 no, yeah, yeah, you need to go to the doctor, 10 00:00:53.479 --> 00:00:57.000 probably for many things, but yeah, that that being one of them. 11 00:00:57.000 --> 00:01:00.719 But welcome everybody to the show. A holiday show. We've got a big 12 00:01:00.840 --> 00:01:04.400 end of the year kind of big show coming up. So today's show is 13 00:01:04.400 --> 00:01:08.319 gonna be a little abbreviated, but we've got some really awesome stuff for you 14 00:01:08.359 --> 00:01:12.879 guys. Of course, if you're listening to this on the podcast and you'd 15 00:01:14.000 --> 00:01:15.799 like to check it out live, you'd like to talk to us during the 16 00:01:15.840 --> 00:01:19.760 show and check out the bonus content, you can always do that over on 17 00:01:19.840 --> 00:01:23.799 our YouTube you search. Let me get that potograph. It's a very very 18 00:01:23.959 --> 00:01:30.040 uncommon term. It's easy to find and subscribe. Hit that button and you 19 00:01:30.079 --> 00:01:33.480 can check out all that live. It's over here. It's over here, 20 00:01:33.719 --> 00:01:36.920 like yeah, yeah, right, oh yeah somewhere, yeah, over there 21 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:40.959 there, right where it is. But thank you guys so much for tuning 22 00:01:41.040 --> 00:01:46.120 in. But Scott, let's dive into it because another Bowman release, and 23 00:01:46.239 --> 00:01:53.920 how could we not have a Bowman release without another duplicate super Fractory twenty three 24 00:01:53.120 --> 00:01:57.920 the year of the duplicate super Well, hold on, hold on, hold 25 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:02.400 on, I know it's it's completely different than the other. Right, so 26 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:07.959 let's there's still a second went out there. Let's yeah, let's set the 27 00:02:07.000 --> 00:02:14.479 table. So guy on posts for sale twenty twenty three. Of the two 28 00:02:14.560 --> 00:02:19.199 hundred superfractors, someone three into two hundred super fractors, and then another super 29 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:23.879 and then another major super fractor from one of the sets. Right, all 30 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:28.159 right, Now, here's the deal. Even though a crap ton of product 31 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:34.080 is open, Yeah, one person being in possession of twelve percent of all 32 00:02:34.120 --> 00:02:38.159 of these superfractors that are out there is a statistical impossibility. Oh no, 33 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:42.560 it's there's absolutely no way. You couldn't even have. You couldn't even even 34 00:02:42.639 --> 00:02:46.960 have done what I've been doing and literally traveling the country to like people that 35 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:51.520 break not gonna happen, fifty of this and find every super they pulled, 36 00:02:51.599 --> 00:02:55.000 and you still couldn't amass this. The account name was DFW card Shark. 37 00:02:55.800 --> 00:03:00.319 They had seven hundred and twenty nine feedback with one hundred and six followers and 38 00:03:00.360 --> 00:03:06.759 over two thousand items sold. But yeah, they had over twenty four of 39 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:13.280 those supers up on their page, So that calls into question where they came 40 00:03:13.280 --> 00:03:16.080 from, right Because the guy, the guy that got the original and how 41 00:03:16.120 --> 00:03:23.560 this came about was Robert Rodriguez over on Twitter. He opened up a box 42 00:03:23.919 --> 00:03:30.639 and got the superfractor of Diane George or Jorge I don't know, Diane George, 43 00:03:30.680 --> 00:03:36.360 I guess from twenty twenty three tops of Omencrome draft. And then he 44 00:03:36.479 --> 00:03:39.439 noticed when he went to go look online, probably at comps of the Reds 45 00:03:39.479 --> 00:03:42.879 and stuff like that, he knows, hey, wait a minute, there's 46 00:03:42.919 --> 00:03:46.759 a super on here too. So that's when he noticed the super. So 47 00:03:46.800 --> 00:03:52.560 we know immediately that Roberts was pulled from a pack. Right now. We 48 00:03:52.719 --> 00:03:57.560 also know that once word got out of this within twenty four hours of those 49 00:03:57.599 --> 00:04:01.120 superfractors were deleted. Yeah, off they were off of that eBay account. 50 00:04:01.439 --> 00:04:06.000 Now we also if you go back through the completed sales of that particular account, 51 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:15.040 you'll find an unusually high number of Green Select Basketball cards yes, which 52 00:04:15.040 --> 00:04:19.680 are numbered to five. Ye, a whole bunch of other high end stuff, 53 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:24.480 uh, you know from you know, a lot of basketball or football. 54 00:04:25.600 --> 00:04:30.040 You know the occasional high end baseball card as well, which kind of 55 00:04:30.120 --> 00:04:31.680 leads you to, now, you know, somebody having all the high end 56 00:04:31.720 --> 00:04:34.439 stuff things like that, the selects, you know what, it's possible with 57 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:38.079 the number that they had that they may have bought them at some point because 58 00:04:38.079 --> 00:04:42.040 that product's been out for a while. Ye. Well, there's also been 59 00:04:42.639 --> 00:04:46.680 and this was kind of slept under swept under the rug. But multiple people 60 00:04:46.879 --> 00:04:50.079 at that worked at TOP. I don't know if they still do now, 61 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:56.000 but have told me in the past that a lot of Wander and j Rod 62 00:04:56.040 --> 00:05:00.480 redemptions were actually stolen from the factory before they were packed out in a lot 63 00:05:00.519 --> 00:05:03.959 of products, And if you look at the certain products that they talked about, 64 00:05:04.399 --> 00:05:11.399 there are a surprisingly low number of redemptions in those products of those players 65 00:05:11.519 --> 00:05:14.920 and so there's a lot of stuff going on. You even go back to 66 00:05:14.959 --> 00:05:19.879 the Italian plant with the pad Praises from F one, Remember there was that 67 00:05:19.959 --> 00:05:23.800 map. I mean, that's all the way over in Italy. They had 68 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:29.759 someone that basically had the entire run. Forget the issue that we're still trying 69 00:05:29.759 --> 00:05:32.360 to get them to talk about, which you know, when all those other 70 00:05:32.439 --> 00:05:39.000 cards got stolen, that's a completely different issue. This is another scam going 71 00:05:39.079 --> 00:05:45.199 on in the production aspect of cards. Like we don't even have to get 72 00:05:45.279 --> 00:05:48.079 to opening the pack right now, and we can literally point to two or 73 00:05:48.079 --> 00:05:51.680 three different scams. You've got the big one going on with the with the 74 00:05:51.759 --> 00:05:57.800 reps. You've got obviously someone here at the plant or somewhere like that stealing 75 00:05:57.879 --> 00:06:00.519 stuff. As this address we do know, you know, traces back to 76 00:06:00.759 --> 00:06:06.160 Texas. We will actually know the exact address and hopefully a name here soon 77 00:06:06.240 --> 00:06:10.360 as we know someone that made a purchase from this person in the past. 78 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:14.720 We're just waiting to get that information. And by the way, Texas not 79 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:19.800 that far from the printing point. No, his address was actually about a 80 00:06:19.959 --> 00:06:25.480 five minute drive. Well where are they GEO located? And we're able to 81 00:06:25.480 --> 00:06:30.680 figure out was about a five minute drive from Carda Mundi's main press, which 82 00:06:30.720 --> 00:06:34.360 is the press, the exact press that Topped bought. And so in my 83 00:06:34.480 --> 00:06:40.439 eyes, this is obviously an employee at that plant that has figured out a 84 00:06:40.480 --> 00:06:45.360 way to get this stuff out, knows the value of it, knows the 85 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:48.279 right ones to take, because he's not taken the autos where you've got to 86 00:06:48.800 --> 00:06:54.240 then forge an auto and do all that those select that of fives and things 87 00:06:54.279 --> 00:06:58.000 like that that he sold. You notice it's not a lot of autograph stuff. 88 00:06:58.079 --> 00:07:00.959 It's a lot of high end, non autoed stuff. So it's obviously 89 00:07:01.000 --> 00:07:09.519 someone that has gotten into that plant and figured out or or has been it's 90 00:07:09.600 --> 00:07:14.759 one of the ten different issues that there is in the production of these cards 91 00:07:14.959 --> 00:07:18.000 that Tops needs to fix. And Ponini too as well, because we see 92 00:07:18.040 --> 00:07:21.879 it all the time now, and we see it way too much, and 93 00:07:23.040 --> 00:07:27.199 I have a feeling that this goes a lot farther than we think. With 94 00:07:27.639 --> 00:07:31.839 just this, I think he just got so if you got so arrogant to 95 00:07:31.920 --> 00:07:38.680 put twenty four of those super fractors out at once, that's not that's stupidity. 96 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:42.720 I mean you you're you have to have done this a lot you don't 97 00:07:42.759 --> 00:07:45.680 do that on the first time. You do that, after you've done it 98 00:07:45.720 --> 00:07:48.000 so many times, you think there's no fricking way, you know, Well, 99 00:07:48.079 --> 00:07:51.639 unless you do Well that's the thing though, unless it is the first 100 00:07:51.680 --> 00:07:57.360 time they have done it and they're just and there yet, well that could 101 00:07:57.399 --> 00:08:00.959 be because again, you don't. At the same time, you don't release 102 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:05.120 into the wild twelve percent of the superfractors out of a product a week after 103 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:09.240 the product is released. No, I know, I know. Yeah, 104 00:08:09.319 --> 00:08:11.160 that's not that's the stupid. That's the true stupid. Oh yeah, if 105 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:16.600 you look into if you look into the layout of this entire plan of selling 106 00:08:16.639 --> 00:08:18.959 him, I mean, he was asking to get caught. He was literally 107 00:08:20.120 --> 00:08:22.759 asking to get caught. But if you look at his sales history, like 108 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:26.759 I said, you see that he has figured out a massive flaw in the 109 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:31.159 productions. And we already know there's a massive law and how they handle in 110 00:08:31.240 --> 00:08:37.200 person autograph signings and things like that. So there's a major major issue at 111 00:08:37.200 --> 00:08:45.639 play here when it comes to just the entire production method at tops Panini everything 112 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:48.000 right now, All right, Well, hold on, let's let's go back 113 00:08:48.039 --> 00:08:52.399 to Bowman, because I know that there were the duplicate superfractors that were in 114 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:56.960 the product itself, which was a mistake. Now, you would think that 115 00:08:56.559 --> 00:09:03.159 when draft got ready to least that you know, would account for the duplicates 116 00:09:03.200 --> 00:09:07.120 that they put aside for damage replacement, and they would say, hey, 117 00:09:07.559 --> 00:09:11.799 we need to make sure that we have them all yep before we release the 118 00:09:11.799 --> 00:09:15.600 product. And it's I would not. I would say that they probably did 119 00:09:15.600 --> 00:09:18.679 that. I would think so if dad happened, well, then then you're 120 00:09:18.720 --> 00:09:22.080 talking about a higher level. Well what you're talking about at that point, 121 00:09:22.159 --> 00:09:26.159 well, or just a or just a press opera that decides to say, 122 00:09:26.200 --> 00:09:30.440 hey, I can print off a third beat of these They're never going to 123 00:09:30.559 --> 00:09:33.840 notice, and I'll sneak them to a friend of mine, or hey, 124 00:09:33.919 --> 00:09:37.879 I'll do them myself and we can sell them make money. Now, the 125 00:09:37.960 --> 00:09:43.279 problem with that, there's no way to tell the difference between that copy and 126 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:46.000 the real copy. That's where you know, we've seen a lot of fakes 127 00:09:46.120 --> 00:09:50.440 up on the market, you know lately, the Wemby fakes that are out 128 00:09:50.440 --> 00:09:52.960 there and all that stuff. But with those, that's plain as day. 129 00:09:54.000 --> 00:09:58.519 They're just cardboard pieces and the crap, the foils different everything. These are 130 00:09:58.600 --> 00:10:05.919 literal identically examples with these will pass. These will pass any authentication that you 131 00:10:05.120 --> 00:10:09.320 if you go at it. That's the problem, Tops fanatics, whatever you 132 00:10:09.320 --> 00:10:15.480 want to call them. They need to quickly get these off the street. 133 00:10:15.720 --> 00:10:20.320 Yes, not because destroyed an issue of statement. Kudos to them for at 134 00:10:20.399 --> 00:10:24.759 least not waiting a week before they announced that they were at least looking into 135 00:10:24.799 --> 00:10:28.399 it. So they are looking into it, they say, right now, 136 00:10:28.440 --> 00:10:33.840 to figure out what is going on. But obviously they don't have answers yet, 137 00:10:33.879 --> 00:10:35.840 and this is probably going to take some time to figure out, unless 138 00:10:37.159 --> 00:10:41.200 actually it might not because I'm assuming they can get the address to that account 139 00:10:41.240 --> 00:10:43.480 pretty quickly. Well, they need to get They need to get law enforced 140 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:48.519 in this one because something this is something that has the ability to derail an 141 00:10:48.679 --> 00:10:54.480 entire product. Yes, and it's not it's not Tops's fault. No, 142 00:10:54.480 --> 00:10:58.799 No, this is one that's not on Tops at all at all, and 143 00:11:01.519 --> 00:11:03.200 not this one. Yeah. Now the other thing is, so we know 144 00:11:03.279 --> 00:11:07.960 that that person listed or twenty three whatever number was up there, Yeah, 145 00:11:09.080 --> 00:11:11.840 what we don't know is how many more of them are there? Right, 146 00:11:11.879 --> 00:11:16.120 because there's a lot more than twenty four cards on a sheet. Yep. 147 00:11:16.240 --> 00:11:18.840 You know, so if they're printing off and until you know, a sheet 148 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:22.080 of cards, oh, then there's at least probably eighty at least eighty to 149 00:11:22.159 --> 00:11:26.159 one hundred, if not one hundred and twenty. I think most. I 150 00:11:26.200 --> 00:11:30.120 think I know I've seen uncut sheets up to one hundred and twenty. Well, 151 00:11:30.159 --> 00:11:33.399 if I remember correctly, like the eighty six Fleer uncut sheets, didn't 152 00:11:33.399 --> 00:11:37.200 they fit the entire one hundred and thirty two cards set? I think so, 153 00:11:39.080 --> 00:11:39.919 and those are about the same size. Now they may have, you 154 00:11:39.919 --> 00:11:43.279 know, they may have changed the sheets and things like that. Yeah, 155 00:11:43.320 --> 00:11:46.360 well yeah, the cards stocked everything printing and all that is completely different. 156 00:11:46.440 --> 00:11:50.679 But like you said, this could ease this, you would hope, and 157 00:11:50.879 --> 00:11:58.200 I pray that TOPS was really paying attention with the super fractures on these after 158 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:01.200 the screw ups before. I'm sure they didn't want to have to pay out 159 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:07.000 almost another couple million dollars by the duplicate soup, so I'm sure they were 160 00:12:07.720 --> 00:12:11.519 even looking out at this product, especially with the Brady's and everything like that. 161 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:15.759 I think a lot of eyes were on the pack out part of this 162 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:18.919 process, which is where the scary part comes in, because that means You've 163 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:24.039 literally got people that are just making these cards out there, and if they're 164 00:12:24.039 --> 00:12:28.559 making one, they're not making just Diane orhe or whatever his name is, 165 00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:33.720 Diane George. They're making a lot. And well, there's two hundred prospects 166 00:12:33.720 --> 00:12:35.159 in the set, yeah, which is, by the way, double the 167 00:12:35.200 --> 00:12:39.159 amount of prospects that are that were in Bowmen Chrome. And we know that 168 00:12:39.279 --> 00:12:46.440 ninety two of the superfrectors had at least one duplicate two exactly least one that 169 00:12:46.480 --> 00:12:50.720 had two. In this case, we don't know. We don't know how 170 00:12:50.720 --> 00:12:52.960 many were printed, how many extras were printed and snuck out of the factory. 171 00:12:54.000 --> 00:12:58.919 We don't know. I mean it's very possible that there are they printed 172 00:12:58.000 --> 00:13:01.159 three or four super records. So no, and when I say they, 173 00:13:01.240 --> 00:13:05.919 I don't mean tops, No, No, I the rogue person at the 174 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:07.799 factory. All right, So I got a question for you on all that. 175 00:13:09.120 --> 00:13:13.240 So with all this going on now in twenty twenty three, which is 176 00:13:13.279 --> 00:13:16.840 a strong year for bowmen, you know, there's a lot of good stuff, 177 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:20.200 a lot of good first bowman's, a lot of good second bowmen's, 178 00:13:20.279 --> 00:13:24.679 a lot of good rookies. This is a strong year of prospects. What 179 00:13:24.759 --> 00:13:30.360 do you think this does to the super fractormy like can Well, if they 180 00:13:30.360 --> 00:13:31.919 get them, if they get them off the if they get them off the 181 00:13:31.919 --> 00:13:35.360 street, I don't think it hurt. Only does anything in the second Well, 182 00:13:35.360 --> 00:13:37.480 Tops did a good job of that with the bounty program. They got 183 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:41.799 most of those off. If not all, well, that was a different 184 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:43.519 story because they had to buy them off. No I know, but at 185 00:13:43.600 --> 00:13:48.440 least they're gone. At least they're gone. But in this case, until 186 00:13:48.440 --> 00:13:50.759 they get them off the street, Yeah, it hurts because again you don't 187 00:13:50.799 --> 00:13:54.840 know which ones are. Well, if you pulled it out of a pack 188 00:13:54.879 --> 00:13:56.759 and you have a chain of custodies like that, especially if you got pulled 189 00:13:56.759 --> 00:14:00.600 it in a brake and there's the video and you know you're buying that kind 190 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:03.440 of stuff, you know What's like, that's the only way i'd buy it. 191 00:14:03.879 --> 00:14:07.519 Yeah, but you know, for the most most of the products not 192 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:09.840 opened on the video. No I know, but I'm saying the only way 193 00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:13.720 I would buy it is if it was opened on a on video on a 194 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:18.120 major platform. But I would not be buying it at super fractor prices. 195 00:14:18.240 --> 00:14:22.559 I would not be buying it at more of an out of five type of 196 00:14:22.600 --> 00:14:24.759 deal, you know, you know a little more than out of five. 197 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:30.519 Like that, I would not be paying a super fractor price like I would 198 00:14:30.600 --> 00:14:35.919 in any other year or next year. And that's that's where you know, 199 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:41.559 this type of stuff really starts to hurt the hobby because those super fractors are 200 00:14:41.559 --> 00:14:43.960 so important. Yeah, well, what Tops, what TOPS needs to do 201 00:14:45.320 --> 00:14:48.679 is they need to go after this guy criminally, because again it's you know, 202 00:14:48.960 --> 00:14:54.440 theft, theft of intellectual property, could be counterfeiting thrown in there. 203 00:14:54.759 --> 00:14:58.919 But then but then they also got to sue the guy civilly, yes, 204 00:14:58.960 --> 00:15:03.679 because what he did damaged the company not only their reputation, but it also 205 00:15:03.840 --> 00:15:07.840 damaged the financial viability product. And if they are successful in doing so, 206 00:15:09.440 --> 00:15:13.159 they need to you know, I mean, I got a feeling that that'll. 207 00:15:13.559 --> 00:15:15.639 I don't want to say stop it because there's always going to be idiots 208 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:20.720 out there that are Yeah, but it will have a significant impact on the 209 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:24.879 people that are out there faking cards. The president is out there well, 210 00:15:24.120 --> 00:15:30.960 and I'm also hoping I'm also hoping that this investigation that TOPS does, now 211 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:33.799 they have to see what we're talking about. Obviously, they've got to see 212 00:15:33.919 --> 00:15:37.600 all these angles as well. Well, I say that, but god knows, 213 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:41.679 they may not. But at least we know a lot of them listen 214 00:15:41.720 --> 00:15:43.879 to the show, so now they have some of these angles maybe to look 215 00:15:43.879 --> 00:15:48.279 at. I would hope that when this is all done, a I think 216 00:15:48.320 --> 00:15:52.639 it's going to be easy to find this person and figure out who it is. 217 00:15:52.960 --> 00:15:56.440 But hopefully they're able to find the flaws in the production and if it 218 00:15:56.799 --> 00:16:03.360 changes the way the cars are produced, and we can at least fix that 219 00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:08.240 problem and then worry about the problem that they're ignoring and pretending that doesn't exist. 220 00:16:08.279 --> 00:16:14.039 But I'm going to keep fucking bringing it up, the issue of chain 221 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:18.399 of command when we're doing custody in a custody. Yeah, chain of custody 222 00:16:18.519 --> 00:16:23.080 during in person autographs at Arizona Fall League, for example, when thousands of 223 00:16:23.120 --> 00:16:29.000 cards were stolen. But you know, at least maybe we can fix production. 224 00:16:29.320 --> 00:16:33.840 And so that's what I hope. I hope something positive can come out, 225 00:16:33.960 --> 00:16:34.960 because right well, I can fix I can tell you right now, 226 00:16:36.000 --> 00:16:37.799 I can go the super practor market right now, killed it. I can 227 00:16:37.879 --> 00:16:41.039 pick the chain it. I can fix the chain of custody issue with the 228 00:16:41.080 --> 00:16:45.559 autographs, you know, during the signings right now? Well so could I 229 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:49.240 Yeah, hire us to go down and do all the signings and we will 230 00:16:49.240 --> 00:16:52.639 make sure that it gets taken care of and nothing gets lost. Exactly. 231 00:16:52.720 --> 00:16:57.840 It's very fun. There's your fix. No, and this is Look, 232 00:16:57.840 --> 00:17:04.160 this is going to be a assive problem up until they can account for all 233 00:17:04.240 --> 00:17:07.920 of the extra you know, superfractors who were printed. Yeah, hopefully there's 234 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:17.160 cameras throughout the printing facility. Oh be they're better be but be surprised. 235 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:21.200 I don't know, but this is this is turning into this. This might 236 00:17:21.240 --> 00:17:23.400 actually this Actually no, I wouldn't say might. This is actually a bigger 237 00:17:23.440 --> 00:17:29.079 scandal than duplicate superfractors that were involvement Chrome. No, it absolutely is, 238 00:17:29.119 --> 00:17:34.279 because if someone rogue that has the potential to obviously print at least one who 239 00:17:34.319 --> 00:17:37.119 knows if they're able to like you said, who knows that they're able to 240 00:17:37.160 --> 00:17:41.319 print ten or twenty Who knows if they had a plan to release twenty four 241 00:17:41.319 --> 00:17:45.359 of these every six months for like every couple of years, you know what 242 00:17:45.400 --> 00:17:48.160 I mean. Like, if you stagger it and you build it up long 243 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:52.319 enough, you could have you could be pretty successful at doing that probably and 244 00:17:52.319 --> 00:17:56.559 getting away with it for a while sneakily if you don't, if you aren't 245 00:17:56.559 --> 00:18:03.759 as brash and stupid as this person was right here. But yeah, this 246 00:18:03.880 --> 00:18:06.240 whole thing is a mess, and I do agree. I think it's a 247 00:18:06.240 --> 00:18:11.039 bigger scandal than the other part because that's simply you know, like we said, 248 00:18:11.440 --> 00:18:14.839 that's just a mistake that you know, it's a little easy bit of 249 00:18:14.839 --> 00:18:17.799 a fix. You just figured it out and get them off the market and 250 00:18:17.839 --> 00:18:21.720 then pay attention like I like they did this time, I would hope. 251 00:18:21.920 --> 00:18:25.480 And we haven't seen any dudes at all outside of this one and those twenty 252 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:29.079 four from this one person, so they did a good job. But the 253 00:18:29.200 --> 00:18:32.599 release on that because we would have seen it by now with you, well 254 00:18:32.680 --> 00:18:37.559 unless unless the you know, somebody who has an additional stack of gets follows 255 00:18:37.599 --> 00:18:41.400 all of this and you know realize that, I mean shit, I should 256 00:18:41.400 --> 00:18:45.400 just lay I need to lay low for a couple of times with true if 257 00:18:45.440 --> 00:18:48.599 you're listening there, fuck up, yeah, exactly, you know. But 258 00:18:48.640 --> 00:18:52.079 at the same time, no people are gonna lose their jobs over this. 259 00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:56.160 Oh yes, people are gonna get sued over this. People need to lose 260 00:18:56.200 --> 00:19:00.720 their jobs, and people need to get suited over this. It needs to 261 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:03.400 happen. This crap needs to stop. It should not be that hard. 262 00:19:03.400 --> 00:19:07.079 But like I said, this goes beyond just that car to Monday one. 263 00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:12.200 You know, this is I think, I personally think that whoever did this 264 00:19:12.319 --> 00:19:18.680 is probably in cahoots with the person in the Italian plant because they work back 265 00:19:18.720 --> 00:19:22.319 and forth. I know a lot of people that work in production that spend 266 00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:25.440 a lot of time with that Italian plant and then go right back over the 267 00:19:25.559 --> 00:19:29.839 United States. And we had those pat Parasia F one, all those one 268 00:19:29.880 --> 00:19:33.559 on ones that were taking the non autos. I have no doubt that that 269 00:19:33.680 --> 00:19:38.759 flaw in that production's model was probably used to figure out how to do this 270 00:19:38.920 --> 00:19:45.440 as well, or could have been the same exactly. It very easily could 271 00:19:45.440 --> 00:19:48.920 have somebody's moving back and forth between Texas and Italy and the and the two 272 00:19:48.000 --> 00:19:56.160 plants. It's possible because it's literally it's essentially the exact same thing. I 273 00:19:56.240 --> 00:20:02.440 mean really from that F one scandal that nothing ever came of because people like 274 00:20:02.519 --> 00:20:06.279 to just ignore stuff instead of bring attention to it. But that's what we're 275 00:20:06.359 --> 00:20:08.599 here, Yeah, that's what we do. And by the way, welcome 276 00:20:08.640 --> 00:20:14.519 everybody over on Instagram. We're alive on Instagram today. They finally started as 277 00:20:14.559 --> 00:20:19.119 soon as I asked stream Yard if when they would uh dream on Instagram. 278 00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:22.279 Two days later they announced it. I'm like, no, maybe that's all 279 00:20:22.319 --> 00:20:26.920 I had to do is ask, Yeah, just Bowman stuff is just it's 280 00:20:26.960 --> 00:20:30.240 a mess. This is absolutely a mess. This is what we're gonna have 281 00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:33.519 to follow for a while. But it should it should be very easily, 282 00:20:33.640 --> 00:20:37.039 you know, because again there's a criminal element to this, which means law 283 00:20:37.079 --> 00:20:41.039 enforcementing very easily subpoena eBay, get the information of the person whose account it 284 00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:45.680 was to put it up there, and then oh they'll have they'll have ip 285 00:20:45.920 --> 00:20:48.440 down do exactly where they were, Yeah, exactly, and if they don't 286 00:20:48.440 --> 00:20:52.359 have it all righty exactly, very good chance that they have it, are 287 00:20:52.559 --> 00:20:56.480 yep. So like they don't work together quite a bit anyway, No exactly, 288 00:20:56.720 --> 00:21:00.359 you know, but I would like I want to see I want to 289 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:03.880 see fanatics take this, because again this is their aspect it as well, 290 00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:07.799 where you you know he had you know, this guy with what he did 291 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:11.920 and whether it's multiple people or not, or if seeing guy has the potential 292 00:21:11.960 --> 00:21:15.200 to ruin a product, which will you know, have a massive financial impact 293 00:21:15.400 --> 00:21:19.319 on the TOPS brand, right, there's no better grounds for a lawsuit. 294 00:21:19.880 --> 00:21:25.119 Absolutely. He and Panini also needs to be paying attention to this because this 295 00:21:25.240 --> 00:21:30.000 is the plant that prints all Panini's cards. So do they do They really 296 00:21:30.039 --> 00:21:34.240 need to be paying attention to it, given that there's stuff's not getting printed 297 00:21:34.279 --> 00:21:38.480 as quickly as it Yeah, I know, I know, but I mean 298 00:21:38.920 --> 00:21:44.880 if I'm Panini, I'm paying attention to Oh yeah, I'm paying extra attention 299 00:21:45.039 --> 00:21:48.960 to my optics. I'm paying attention to my prisms, you know, my 300 00:21:48.079 --> 00:21:52.599 mosaics, that type of stuff. Happily we haven't seen the issues yet, 301 00:21:52.720 --> 00:21:57.839 but you know it. The cards are being printed there sometimes whenever Tops allows 302 00:21:57.880 --> 00:22:03.440 them. But you know that that's a different story for a different times. 303 00:22:03.519 --> 00:22:07.759 Yeah, but yeah, so Bowman twenty twenty three moment, I think, 304 00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:11.599 uh, the entire line is probably one of the most cursed products and quite 305 00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:15.880 some time an issue which is which is sad because it's you know, the 306 00:22:15.200 --> 00:22:19.319 prospects and the rookies that are in the entire product across the whole year. 307 00:22:19.720 --> 00:22:22.680 It's sad because this was a great, great rookie year. This is a 308 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:30.039 great prospect year. And then issue with every single release, even going into 309 00:22:30.119 --> 00:22:34.279 the top chrone stuff, but just moment in general, every single all right, 310 00:22:34.359 --> 00:22:37.519 and on that note, because again we're doing a little bit of a 311 00:22:37.519 --> 00:22:38.839 shorter show today, We're going to take a quick break for those of you 312 00:22:38.880 --> 00:22:45.039 that are on the podcast. We'll be back after these messages. Yeah, 313 00:22:45.319 --> 00:22:48.000 we are back for those of you that are on the podcast. Uh, 314 00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:52.359 putting up with stuff that pays the bills? Yeah, me on YouTube, 315 00:22:52.440 --> 00:22:56.519 well and Instagram. Well, you guys have been time anyway. Yeah, 316 00:22:56.599 --> 00:23:00.599 so had something different that happened this year. Mm hmm, something they've never 317 00:23:00.640 --> 00:23:04.920 done before. Yeah, talking about the NBA in season tournament. Yes, 318 00:23:06.359 --> 00:23:08.519 Now we're not talking about the tournament itself. We're not talking about whether or 319 00:23:08.519 --> 00:23:12.000 not I love it or hated or whatever. We're not talking about the laughing 320 00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:18.920 stock that is a banner. They get to raise a banner for that. 321 00:23:18.960 --> 00:23:22.759 We get to raise a banner that says we're the first team that doesn't go 322 00:23:22.880 --> 00:23:26.640 one in sixteen. Like I mean, come on, well, but you 323 00:23:26.680 --> 00:23:30.000 gotta remember, man, Cleveland went owen sixteen. So even if even though 324 00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:33.640 Carolina wasn't, no, I guess yeah seventeen. Yeah, yeah, that 325 00:23:33.720 --> 00:23:38.240 was before the seventeen Yeah, yeah, you know, but regardless what you 326 00:23:38.279 --> 00:23:41.559 think about the D seasons, we've noticed a couple of them. Yeah. 327 00:23:41.599 --> 00:23:44.839 Well, i'll tell you right now, and I'll make a mold statement. 328 00:23:45.160 --> 00:23:51.839 From a hobby standpoint, the NBA In Season Tournament was a tremendous success because 329 00:23:52.240 --> 00:23:57.519 I'll tell you, dude, this tournament put a spotlight on a ton of 330 00:23:57.759 --> 00:24:03.160 young talent that they I mean, given credit, they all excelled and they've 331 00:24:03.240 --> 00:24:08.039 excelled since then as well. But people got into this tournament, like I 332 00:24:08.039 --> 00:24:11.880 don't want to get into you know, if it was a success or not, 333 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:15.160 and all that from a non hobby standpoint, but people watch these games. 334 00:24:15.200 --> 00:24:18.839 It was intense, it was some of these games felt like playoff basketball 335 00:24:18.880 --> 00:24:22.519 when it got to the eliminations. It was fun and there was money. 336 00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:26.319 There was money on the line, of course, and even though these guys 337 00:24:26.319 --> 00:24:27.839 are rich, when it's mony, you know it's money, they want it 338 00:24:29.240 --> 00:24:33.079 and so yeah, they were going at it hard. But from a hobby 339 00:24:33.160 --> 00:24:37.400 standpoint, I think I think you look at someone like Kegan Murray who follows 340 00:24:37.440 --> 00:24:42.440 it up going twelve for thirteen from three in one freaking game and putting up 341 00:24:42.519 --> 00:24:48.799 forty something. You've got Halliburton, who's showing Yeah, that was the guy 342 00:24:48.839 --> 00:24:52.799 I was going to bring up with Halliburton. Who Halliburton's showing that he's going 343 00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:57.079 to make the Indiana Pacers relevant, which is well, even though Pacers lost, 344 00:24:57.759 --> 00:25:03.319 they didn't win the tournament. Still think Haliburn dyp right. We don't 345 00:25:03.319 --> 00:25:07.920 give the MVP to somebody on win right. But no, you look at 346 00:25:07.960 --> 00:25:12.279 all those guys, and I think that this did so much for the hobby. 347 00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:18.559 It kicks started the basketball hobby heavily. If you look at the not 348 00:25:18.720 --> 00:25:22.039 the top level guys, that stuff, you know, it always kind of 349 00:25:22.039 --> 00:25:26.599 fluctuate it. It has its normal market and you know you'll see sways here 350 00:25:26.640 --> 00:25:30.000 and there. But when you look at this draft class and you look at 351 00:25:30.119 --> 00:25:36.079 last year's draft class, because we we predicted this, or at least I 352 00:25:36.480 --> 00:25:40.400 did in a long time ago, I believe you agreed with me that these 353 00:25:40.440 --> 00:25:45.119 new release dates where Prism comes out after the season's over and stuff like that, 354 00:25:45.559 --> 00:25:48.519 the real value in the rookies and the rookies that people chase, they 355 00:25:48.559 --> 00:25:53.680 start chasing them in year two now as opposed to year one, because that's 356 00:25:53.720 --> 00:25:56.680 when the big stuff happens. Yeah, people are chasing whim View, but 357 00:25:56.720 --> 00:26:00.440 they're chasing his hoops, you know, and I mean not the stuff, 358 00:26:00.519 --> 00:26:04.400 the big stuff that you used to be. So you're chasing now, you're 359 00:26:04.480 --> 00:26:07.440 chasing the big stuff with the guys from last year. And if you look 360 00:26:07.519 --> 00:26:12.319 at those last three classes, you've got massive amounts of people that are breaking 361 00:26:12.319 --> 00:26:17.759 out. You've got people all the way back to Luca Your twenty eighteen things 362 00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:22.839 are yeah, twenty eighteen things like that with Brunson, with Anthony Simon's huge 363 00:26:22.880 --> 00:26:27.480 breakout from the tournament, even on a losing team that got the crap beat 364 00:26:27.519 --> 00:26:33.720 out of him, He's played tremendous since then. This tournament was excellent for 365 00:26:33.839 --> 00:26:37.039 the hobby and I think it was very very important, and I think it's 366 00:26:37.119 --> 00:26:45.440 going to be good for the hobby because basketball used to not matter until Christmas 367 00:26:45.559 --> 00:26:48.720 Day. Yeah, that's when players started to play hard. That's when players 368 00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:53.559 started to actually play, and that's when games kind of started to matter. 369 00:26:53.920 --> 00:26:59.519 Lakers showed you last year that they could literally not play at all all year 370 00:26:59.599 --> 00:27:04.319 long, just hang around under five hundred, make it into the playing game 371 00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:07.279 and then actually starting to play basketball. Look, I mean, you know, 372 00:27:07.400 --> 00:27:11.200 yes, they didn't win at all, but they you know what I 373 00:27:11.240 --> 00:27:14.680 mean, it's it never mattered. But now the course of course, they 374 00:27:14.720 --> 00:27:18.200 come off after the tournament and you know, look what happened to him against 375 00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:23.319 the Bulls, right, But now you're getting an in season tournament, like 376 00:27:23.359 --> 00:27:26.599 you said, with money involved, where these players actually care, where these 377 00:27:26.680 --> 00:27:32.559 games that Green would give the presentation team a good job. They made this 378 00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:37.759 stuff feel important. These games felt much more different than regular season games. 379 00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:41.759 And great job from the production team and everything on doing that. But I 380 00:27:41.799 --> 00:27:48.759 think it's a great way to showcase the talent that needs to be showcased. 381 00:27:48.799 --> 00:27:55.079 The Chets, the Keegans, you know, all the Hallid Burton's, the 382 00:27:55.279 --> 00:28:00.480 Maxis, all these guys that are right there on the cusp. But the 383 00:28:00.599 --> 00:28:03.680 Jalen Greens, the Paulo even though he's heard people like that that are just 384 00:28:04.160 --> 00:28:08.400 they're getting recognition, but not what they deserve. Yet. I think this 385 00:28:08.559 --> 00:28:14.359 tournament put more eyes on them than I've seen in a long time, and 386 00:28:14.759 --> 00:28:19.920 I think it is going to be vital in keeping the NBA hobby strong through 387 00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:23.640 the entire season. All right, well, speaking of the hobby, yes, 388 00:28:25.119 --> 00:28:26.680 this is what I'm curious about that. The one thing I didn't didn't 389 00:28:26.720 --> 00:28:30.359 notice. Did the did the jerseys that the players wore have an ND season 390 00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:34.799 tournament patch on them? Good question, I'll tell you in one second, 391 00:28:36.119 --> 00:28:38.599 because you can do a whole bunch of stuff, you know, as far 392 00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:41.680 as a subset or you know, whatever the you know Panini wants to do 393 00:28:41.759 --> 00:28:45.200 if you've got those patches. But you can also do stuff with the images 394 00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:52.039 because remember they they used a different floor on the court in season tournament games, 395 00:28:52.480 --> 00:28:56.160 you know, instead of the typical like park wood floor, they were 396 00:28:56.200 --> 00:29:00.359 on a solid color uh you know floor each team had, you know, 397 00:29:00.440 --> 00:29:04.599 specifically for the ND season tournament games, they all wore the City Edition. 398 00:29:04.920 --> 00:29:10.359 They wore the City Edition jerseys. So I'm gonna but they wear the City 399 00:29:10.480 --> 00:29:14.039 Edition jerseys and other games throughout the season. They're not right, But there's 400 00:29:14.079 --> 00:29:19.519 no nothing that I can see that shows an in season jersey with a patch 401 00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:23.160 on it. So it looks like to me, even for the finals, 402 00:29:23.279 --> 00:29:29.279 let's see, Well, yeah, that's that would be cool to have. 403 00:29:29.400 --> 00:29:32.279 You know, you get a patch card with the N season tournament and if 404 00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:36.759 it's game used, you've got to right, you've got something that's you know 405 00:29:37.039 --> 00:29:40.880 somewhat of a collector's item. Yeah, I don't see one, but there's 406 00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:44.599 a possibility that there will be if there is well updated on socials. But 407 00:29:45.200 --> 00:29:48.759 I mean, if it's safe to say those citas, they may you know, 408 00:29:48.960 --> 00:29:53.079 if you get game use city stuff, maybe it is from those tournaments 409 00:29:53.119 --> 00:29:56.680 as well. But it looks like that's what they wore through most of them. 410 00:29:56.880 --> 00:29:59.440 You know what they don't they need to do. Here's what they need 411 00:29:59.440 --> 00:30:02.599 to do with with the jerseys. They need to do what they do in 412 00:30:03.160 --> 00:30:10.079 soccer. Yeah, special event games and tournament games, they actually stitch, 413 00:30:10.359 --> 00:30:12.559 you know, like right in the middle of the chest, they actually stitch 414 00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:15.759 the team name, what the event is, the date, you know, 415 00:30:15.839 --> 00:30:21.279 like they need to do that. I agree, including like the NBA Finals. 416 00:30:22.119 --> 00:30:26.839 You have potentially seven jerseys, you know, you have seven different jersey 417 00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:30.319 and each one you know, game one, game two, you know, 418 00:30:30.880 --> 00:30:34.279 and you know, it makes it a makes it unique, especially with a 419 00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:37.200 lot of the teams that you know, all jerseys for charity. If you 420 00:30:37.240 --> 00:30:41.519 want to bring your patches, you want to bring your your relics and your 421 00:30:41.559 --> 00:30:48.119 swatches back to relevancy and not worth less than some bass card parallels. That's 422 00:30:48.160 --> 00:30:49.440 how you do it. I mean, that's how you do it again. 423 00:30:49.519 --> 00:30:53.359 Now you've noticed that, I have noticed they kind of put some relics in 424 00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:59.960 some products that they left out last year, which might be dumping klawitty one 425 00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:04.720 and at least when it turns to uh comes to football. But you know, 426 00:31:04.799 --> 00:31:08.160 if you want people to care about those relics again, the non auto 427 00:31:08.240 --> 00:31:11.759 relics, the non you know, all that stuff, if you want them 428 00:31:11.799 --> 00:31:18.079 to matter again and truly mean something, that's how do it. You personalize 429 00:31:18.079 --> 00:31:21.480 it, You make it awesome. I mean, you put that you know, 430 00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:25.799 TOPS has a great thing they're starting to do in Major League Baseball with 431 00:31:25.839 --> 00:31:30.720 the sticker, Yeah, and the sticker and the little you know, hologram 432 00:31:30.759 --> 00:31:33.759 sticker that you know, we've laughed at some uses of it before, but 433 00:31:36.640 --> 00:31:38.880 I like it. Like it's not like you don't. They're still in museum 434 00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:42.839 collection. They still put that damn hologram sticker, the l authentic hologram sticker 435 00:31:42.920 --> 00:31:48.880 on like a napkin pa and a napkin piece. Ye like, yeah, 436 00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:52.119 no, you don't need that, no, But I'm just saying they're on 437 00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:56.279 the right path of at least identifying the games. It's just that there's really 438 00:31:56.319 --> 00:32:00.000 cool ways that they could do it, and they already have. The idea 439 00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:02.799 is in place. It's just a matter of I think, time and how 440 00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:06.680 much it costs to make. But you know, if, like I said, 441 00:32:06.720 --> 00:32:08.119 if you want those relics to matter, you got to change, You 442 00:32:08.160 --> 00:32:12.359 got to do something because they But we'll see what happens. Well, I'm 443 00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:15.279 curious to see what's gonna happen with the h L stuff because Fanatics is yeah, 444 00:32:15.359 --> 00:32:19.839 yeah, I know that that could be fun. Well, typically what 445 00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:23.319 happens in the NHL is you only have three jerseys of each color to use 446 00:32:23.359 --> 00:32:30.599 throughout the season. And with Fanatics now manufacturing the jerseys in addition, uh, 447 00:32:30.680 --> 00:32:34.160 well, I guess they're not doing the NHL cards though. Yeah, 448 00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:37.160 well if they, if they ever got the license or well, actually wait, 449 00:32:37.200 --> 00:32:43.559 they manufactured the MLB jerseys for Nike. So I'm curious to see increase 450 00:32:43.599 --> 00:32:46.359 the quantity and use throughout the season and give them more access to things like 451 00:32:46.400 --> 00:32:50.599 game use patches, you know, and stuff like that since they're controlling the 452 00:32:50.680 --> 00:32:54.200 cards and the jersey. Sure, absolutely so I'd like to I'd like to 453 00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:59.440 find out if that's the case. We'll see, So all right, and 454 00:32:59.480 --> 00:33:04.000 speaking of we'll see, Yeah, there's things that we are going to see 455 00:33:05.279 --> 00:33:07.759 in the next couple of weeks. Yeah. Yeah, you didn't even you 456 00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:12.079 don't even set me up for that one. No, not in the least. 457 00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:15.640 Bet No, we are of course talking about it. Yeah, thanks, 458 00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:17.000 We are in the We are of course talking about the release count. 459 00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:22.680 Yeah. So we are looking at release calendar rundown baby. Yeah, there's 460 00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:25.400 one product that I'm really excited about coming out next week, the rest of 461 00:33:25.400 --> 00:33:30.680 the next week, finally after like a six month delay. Twenty twenty three 462 00:33:30.720 --> 00:33:37.000 Tops Chrome League SoC yep. Of course we're chasing MESSI, So we're doing 463 00:33:37.000 --> 00:33:39.640 on that now. The week after is exciting, especially for all of football 464 00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:45.799 twenty twenty three. Prism Football comes out on the third, coming out the 465 00:33:45.839 --> 00:33:50.759 next day is a fan favorite product. Three Upper Deck Gooden Champions. Yeah, 466 00:33:51.079 --> 00:33:55.920 that's coming out too on the fifth. Immaculate UFC. That's nice. 467 00:33:57.039 --> 00:34:00.880 Yeah, that's the one that's gonna have day know white autos and the Fertida 468 00:34:01.119 --> 00:34:06.279 autos and all that stuff in Yes, yeah, yes, that's gonna be 469 00:34:06.319 --> 00:34:10.039 a big one. We've got Phoenix Football coming out on the tenth. You've 470 00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:15.880 got uh let's see twenty two to twenty three Immaculate basketball. Nice coming out 471 00:34:15.880 --> 00:34:20.400 on the twelfth. That's last season. I thought that was macul It's usually 472 00:34:20.400 --> 00:34:24.639 in early season release. I'm not entirely sure mac draft. Yeah, but 473 00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:28.719 Immaculate still usually comes out fairly. But this is the twenty two to twenty 474 00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:30.800 three season, not twenty three. Okay, so this is the Paulo. 475 00:34:32.000 --> 00:34:35.480 Yeah, maybe they got it. Unless they got it, unless they got 476 00:34:35.519 --> 00:34:40.920 the dates wrong find out. Yeah. Interesting. All right. So we've 477 00:34:42.039 --> 00:34:45.559 got I'm just looking on the list here, like ice hockey that's coming out 478 00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:51.119 on the twelfth. We've got absolute football coming out in seventeen, twenty three, 479 00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:54.679 twenty four. Cork Kings basketball seventeenth. I always love court Kings, 480 00:34:54.840 --> 00:35:01.400 one of the most underrated products. Yeah, since it started every year, 481 00:35:01.840 --> 00:35:12.119 so underrated, blank slates the different levels of rookie cards, but not overdoing 482 00:35:12.159 --> 00:35:15.719 it, like select the artwork, feel to it. Oh my god, 483 00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:19.000 I could go on for days, fresh paint. All right, give me 484 00:35:19.039 --> 00:35:22.679 some Cork Kings baby. All right. So twenty fourth, we've got flawless 485 00:35:22.719 --> 00:35:25.760 baseball and we have impeccable football coming out. I love impeccable. Yes, 486 00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:34.039 another my favorite. Also on the twenty fourth another fan favorite, unbelievable, 487 00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:38.599 probably the best photography in all sports products period stadium. Of course we're talking 488 00:35:38.599 --> 00:35:43.199 about top stadium baseball. Hey, and what do you know? Also on 489 00:35:43.239 --> 00:35:45.960 the twenty fourth trilogy, hockey is coming out season ny, so look for 490 00:35:46.239 --> 00:35:51.639 Bitard stuff in there. Oh, by the way, it is twenty two, 491 00:35:51.800 --> 00:35:55.039 twenty twenty three Immaculates. Yeah, that far behind. I didn't realize 492 00:35:55.039 --> 00:35:59.239 it were that far behind in Immaculate. But all right, So then we've 493 00:35:59.280 --> 00:36:04.719 got the twenty seventh Boman's Best that's coming out. We've got Spectra Football on 494 00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:09.800 the thirty first damn Football Deck loaded yep, and then twenty two to twenty 495 00:36:09.920 --> 00:36:14.760 upper Deck Premier Hockey un thirty first, along with one of my favorite products, 496 00:36:14.800 --> 00:36:17.400 twenty three to twenty four Openn Prism Premier League. Nice. Yeah, 497 00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:23.119 gotta love the league Star. That's a solid, solid month for football especially. 498 00:36:23.960 --> 00:36:28.760 That's gonna be fun. But I'm really curious that a couple of things, 499 00:36:28.880 --> 00:36:32.880 a couple of those products for football are heavy autographed, driven products. 500 00:36:34.000 --> 00:36:37.039 You're lucky that you know you do have Richardson. You've got a lot of 501 00:36:37.119 --> 00:36:42.559 positional players that are doing good my ECU boy, Keaton Mitchell starting to get 502 00:36:42.559 --> 00:36:45.679 some major love as well, a lot of great players to chase after. 503 00:36:45.840 --> 00:36:52.440 But not having those quarterbacks in some of those products. When you have absolute, 504 00:36:52.719 --> 00:36:57.239 you have all those other products coming out with it, impeccable, all 505 00:36:57.320 --> 00:37:00.559 of that at once. Yep, how much you know, some things I 506 00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:05.000 think are going to suffer a little bit. So I'm a little curious to 507 00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:08.280 see how that plays out. As football has so many big releases, with 508 00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:14.679 Prism two being one of the releases coming out, It's going to be interesting 509 00:37:14.719 --> 00:37:19.719 to see with the quarterbacks. But wow, a lot of very very very 510 00:37:19.760 --> 00:37:24.719 expensive CJ strout cards are about to hit the market like holy shit. And 511 00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:28.360 we'll talk about it a little bit more at the end of January. But 512 00:37:29.079 --> 00:37:34.760 what may be the biggest product of these coming out of February Upper Deck Series 513 00:37:34.800 --> 00:37:37.599 two hockey? Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, and yeah, 514 00:37:37.639 --> 00:37:43.280 that's gonna be that's gonna be an insane Oh no, no, no, 515 00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:47.360 ridiculous again, So we will when we do the February rundown, we'll talk 516 00:37:47.400 --> 00:37:52.800 more about that one. Oh yeah, that's the scheduled date. I should 517 00:37:52.800 --> 00:37:57.400 have said it was coming out on February thirty four. But no, that's 518 00:37:57.400 --> 00:38:00.840 a that's a stack stacked release kind and a lot of products. I'm looking 519 00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:06.280 forward to that. That immaculate UFC I think is gonna be huge with the 520 00:38:06.360 --> 00:38:09.079 Dana White and all the special guests that they've done, which I think is 521 00:38:09.159 --> 00:38:14.599 brilliant on the UFC's part. But they're bringing in a lot of heavy hitters 522 00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:17.960 on those products, so even some of that stuff is going to get some 523 00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:22.599 heavy attention. But that's a good release calendar. Right around the holidays, 524 00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:27.119 you know a lot of people get a lot of gift cards stuff like that. 525 00:38:27.239 --> 00:38:30.719 There's gonna be a not not gonna be a lack of products for him 526 00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:32.480 to spend it on. No, no, not at all. And until 527 00:38:32.480 --> 00:38:37.440 then you can buy Bowman exactly, or you can go buy from that douchebag. 528 00:38:38.199 --> 00:38:42.280 Yeah, I know you. He took him down. He took him 529 00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:45.280 down. But look at the twelve to fifty. Tom Brady is still floating 530 00:38:45.280 --> 00:38:47.239 around out there in a pack somewhere. Yeah, or maybe not in a 531 00:38:47.280 --> 00:38:52.360 pack. Maybe maybe that's got stashed right, let's just say, let's just 532 00:38:52.400 --> 00:38:54.519 say it's it's going to be in a pack though, Yeah, it's in 533 00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:59.800 a pack. It's in yeah. So next week we've got a big show. 534 00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:01.760 Come the recap. We talk about a new product that I just noticed 535 00:39:01.760 --> 00:39:07.199 that came out. Donald Trump decided to release digital. Yeah, and they're 536 00:39:07.199 --> 00:39:10.400 not there's a but there's a there's a relic card that a physical card, 537 00:39:10.760 --> 00:39:15.920 and if you spend forty seven dollars buying digital cards, they will send you 538 00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:19.039 a free relic card. It's got a piece of the suit and there's a 539 00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:21.960 version that has a piece of the tie that he was wearing when he took 540 00:39:22.000 --> 00:39:28.719 the mug shot down in Georgia. That that that's a really good way to 541 00:39:28.760 --> 00:39:31.880 make People that don't give a shit about any of this, like myself, 542 00:39:32.280 --> 00:39:37.880 actually like that's interesting, So good job. I'm actually what I want to 543 00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:39.559 know is what I want to know is I want to track that because they 544 00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:42.920 will eventually hit the second and I want to see what though. Oh I 545 00:39:42.920 --> 00:39:45.000 can't wait to see what they sell for. I can't wait. Yeah, 546 00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:50.800 but yes, yeah, that'll be hitting the market. But yeah, guys, 547 00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:52.760 that's gonna wrap up. That was a two hundred and nine. Scott. 548 00:39:52.840 --> 00:39:58.280 I think you left a perfect ending spot right there. So we're going 549 00:39:58.360 --> 00:40:00.440 to wrap up this week's show like Scott said, we do have a very 550 00:40:00.519 --> 00:40:06.440 special episode coming up. We're gonna recap the year of twenty twenty three, 551 00:40:06.599 --> 00:40:09.920 what a year it was in the hobby. We're gonna have some special guests 552 00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:13.840 and things like that. It'll be a lot of fun. It'll be one 553 00:40:13.880 --> 00:40:16.000 of our special episodes. Now, I'll be coming up really soon. We 554 00:40:16.079 --> 00:40:21.360 hope everyone has a wonderful holidays. Before we go, we do want to 555 00:40:21.360 --> 00:40:25.519 thank our awesome sponsors. We've got Zion cases, Denver card Shows, Slap 556 00:40:25.639 --> 00:40:30.480 Strong, Show your Slabs, Game Time, sports cards and stand up displays 557 00:40:30.480 --> 00:40:34.199 and of course Card Ladder. Thank you guys so much. We could not 558 00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:37.360 do this show without you guys. And as we said, happy holidays to 559 00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:44.039 everybody. Hope you guys have a wonderful and safe Christmas and holiday break. 560 00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:46.199 We have a great time with your family. Hopefully you guys get a lot 561 00:40:46.239 --> 00:40:51.159 of awesome wax, get some awesome hits. But until then, you guys 562 00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:54.519 know the deal. Keep ripping those packs, pulling those hids. We'll talk 563 00:40:54.559 --> 00:41:01.039 to you then. Face two