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What you have to understand here is
that we have in twenty twenty four an

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awful lot of problems politically around the
world, and that sort of uncertainty is

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what provides the underlying base for gold. And I mean just look at New

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York City. It's an absolute disaster. You've got rats were actually running around

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openly on the streets. It's a
lot of criminals. Yeah, I mean,

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they've cut the police spending down by
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You are listening to and watching the
Financial Survival Network. And I'm Kerrie

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Lut's your host. It's December eighth. We've got one of your most favorite

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popular guests, hunt Martin Armstrong.
We're going to change things a little bit.

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Of all the guests I have on
Marty, you by far receive the

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most questions. I try to ask
them, but sometimes I miss them and

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then people get upset with me.
So I decided we're going to change it

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up a little bit. We're just
going to do a Q and A from

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many of our listeners out there,
and then I got a couple for you.

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But we're going to start off with
this one and from my friend from

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the land down under. Please ask
mister Armstrong to give his interpretation of what

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the US debt clock is trying to
convey. He has a picture attached.

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We're not going to bother with that, but it shows a dollar supply at

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a negative number but still diminishing,
and links it to the dollar silver gold

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ratio. What's going on in that
situation? Thanks in advance? Well,

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I mean the real value of gold. It goes up, like for example,

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gold at bottomed in nineteen seventy six
one hundred dollars. It rose about

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four hundred by December seventy nine,
but the last six weeks it went from

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four hundred to eighty seventy five.
Why because that's when Russia invaded Afghanistan.

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The real mover of gold is not
inflation or you know this this kind of

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propaganda all the time. It's when
confidence in government collapses. That's what we're

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really facing at this point. Twenty
twenty four is going to be the year

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from political hell. It's not just
the US. I mean you look around.

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You've got elections everywhere. Russia,
the head of the EU is up,

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but you got British elections coming.
I mean it's like you're going to

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take whatever politics there is, put
it in a jar, shake it and

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you know, and pour it out. It's just crazy everywhere. Yeah,

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yeah, and we're gonna I got
a question for you later about the Argentine

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election here. Next question is China
seems to be trends more grafying or more

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graphing into an Asian tacatopia, which
I think means dystopia if my bookb serves

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me correct. Question by twenty thirty
two, is China going to look like

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a technocratic empire worse than an Orwellian
Big Brother nightmare? Is truth going to

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end up more stranger and more dangerous
than fiction? No? Not really.

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What we're what are computer is showing. Oh yeah, you just shut that

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thing off. What our computers are
actually showing is that for twenty thirty two,

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we're looking at all government mints basically
changing, and that that applies to

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China as well. So it's not
that I mean a lot of the propaganda

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about China. I mean I can
tell you most of the actual problems there.

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With the banking et cetera. China
warned its provinces and the banks not

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to borrow in dollars they were doing. Soca's interest rates were cheap, and

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they said, do not do that. They did not act as an authoritarian.

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They probably should have, and just
think we outlawed it, but they

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didn't. So that's why you have
banks failing, et cetera. But you

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know, the people in China are
not about to go back to communism or

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anything like that. The same thing
in Russia. They've all had enough of

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that stuff and once you give them
a taste of freedom. I mean,

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there's a lot of billionaires in both
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I was talking along, you know, congressman, and he says,

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oh, you know, China's communists. I said, you understand what communism

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even is. You know, the
government owns every day. I said,

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you know, it's a it's a
question of saving face. You know,

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they still call it the communist party, that's not communism. But if they

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changed the name of the party,
then they'd have to take down the picture

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of mal you know, and wrong
and take them all the money too,

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right, yeah, you want it
would be a major psychological announcement that sorry,

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for fifty some years we were wrong. So it's just opened up.

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I mean, you people from freely
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and it's they just kept the name. That's it. But you know,

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you're looking at China's economy got into
a lot of trouble, mainly because

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they went very draconian with the whole
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locking people down. And when you
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People can't go to work. Uh
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of the class that that have lost
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couldn't make payments. You know.
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just in China but also throughout America
and Europe are beginning to realize what they

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did was serious. Uh. And
then you and I warned about it too.

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Yeah. Look, it's you know, the inflation we have here is

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because of shortages. It's not speculation. So raising interest rates is not going

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to make you know, going to
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uh, that's why the Fed's kind
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a hard place. I mean it
can it sees the inflation, yes,

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and then you can manipulate the CPI
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the reality is is that you still
go to stores. And I just went

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to the store the other day and
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I see it, I see it. And what is there is being

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shoplifted in places like La and San
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a CVS. I was out in
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I wanted a bottle of eye drops. They were like twenty bucks.

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I had to wait fifteen minutes for
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the same CVS down the street from
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open. You can get almost whatever
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some high value items. I will
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the same drops pick them up myself. No greater contrast than that of next

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question, how far will dold fall
in this cycle? Some are predicting a

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drop of fourteen fifty to fifteen hundred
US before really taking off timeframe us how

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far is it going to drop?
Will it go to fourteen fifty to fifteen

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hundred in what time frame? That's
a bit extreme, But what we're really

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looking at is I'm hoping to see
a pullback in gold going into January.

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We were only talking basically a few
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in January, then gold would be
in a position to rise for most of

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the year. If you get a
new high end January, then it's the

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opposite. But what you have to
understand here is that we have in twenty

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twenty four an awful lot of problems
politically around the world, and that sort

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of uncertainty is what provides the underlying
base for gold. And I mean,

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just look at New York City.
It's an absolute disaster. You've got rats

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were actually running around openly on the
streets. It's a lot of criminals.

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Yeah, I mean they've cut the
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billion dollars and they go, oh, well, we're going to tax congestion

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and cars driving around to clean the
air. Meanwhile, they cut the budget

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for sanitation, so you get clean
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no congestion anymore because nobody's working in
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half empty. I think a third
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space is vacant, but the rest
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All right, And this ties in
with the next question. You answered the

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other question about precious metals when they'll
start moving, So we need to look

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for January whether it makes a new
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trend now, it looks like it
could be hitting a low there. But

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Martin, you moved to Florida because
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state going forward. People are moving
to Florida in Texas. But what five

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states did your mom? I'll say
will fare the best in the coming years.

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And he says we need multiple state
choices instead of simply reciting the states

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we are all moving to. We're
going to publish a report on that and

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do a more detailed look because we
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to know. Florida is still number
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because Texas is getting inundated with all
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like Austin and things like this that
used to be really nice. You're starting

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to get you know, rising crime
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was just out and Austin. A
lot of them said, you, I

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think I'm going to move to Florida
now. And I said, well,

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jig bo, go to the east
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the traffics, you're already doubled here. I mean it's to get to Florida.

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They get to swim. Yeah.
I Ten is about the worst interstate

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highway on the planet, and that's
what connects Texas and Florida eventually. Yeah.

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And that's a follow up to that
to which five countries did your model

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say would fare the best going ahead? Uh? Short term, basically,

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it's still largely than in the United
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I know a lot of people get
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debt and things of this nature,
but we also have the largest economy.

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And the main issue is is that
we our economy is a consumer based economy.

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Compare it to Germany. Germany is
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they manufacture things and want to sell
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look at the net worth of the
average German, it's less than an Italian

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because they keep your taxes very high, afraid of inflation, things of that

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nature. So they really suppressed their
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is like from the eighteen hundreds.
You know. In contrast, China has

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looked at both models, and if
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is trying to mimic the consumer based
from the United States. They understand what

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made the United States the biggest economy
in the world, and that was the

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whole issue. So China is trying
to develop its own consumer based economy,

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you know, this soak road,
things of this nature, and so US

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is still number one. Mexico is
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it's been pretty interesting to a lot
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the draconian COVID lot down stuff.
A lot of people went there mainly because

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they didn't have to be vaccinated to
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And so you have an awful lot
of people also moving towards Mexico, and

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so I think you know, you
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going down to like Uruguay and you're
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Argentina overthrowing the left. You're saying
the same thing down in Brazil,

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So there is a shift. I
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South America for such a long time
and it's done nothing but suppress the people.

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I mean, Argentina used to be
one of the richest countries in the

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world. Don't realize that turn of
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mean then in comes the Commune stuff, the Marxist agenda, and they basically

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wiped out the economy and people have
never advanced since. Yeah, and only

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the buildings. The architecture is magnificent
there and Buenosari's, but they're living off

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their capital from one hundred years ago. So as long as you raised Argentina,

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I'd have a question for you.
With the Millie's avowal to eliminate the

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central bank, and I guess to
dollarize the economy, is it going to

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work? And in this day and
age we truly control monetary growth and actually

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make an economy grow. No,
I mean I just did a piece on

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that. Pegging to the dollar is
not going to be a great idea because

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what when you peg it's different than
a fixed exchange rate, for example in

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the Bretton Woods to his sixt exchange
rate. But you didn't import influences from

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other countries. When you peg a
currency like to the dour. If the

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Doer raises, you know, we
raise interest rates, they're raised there as

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well. If we have inflation,
it's immediately exported to them hostage. They're

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held hostage. Yeah, it's not
the same thing. And a lot of

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these politicians they don't really understand there. You know, there are three monetary

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systems, sixth rate, pegging,
and a floating rate. Milton Friedman's idea

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of a floating rate, which you've
first raised in nineteen fifty three, was

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that it would be a check in
balance against the politicians. You know,

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I knew, Milton, you know
personally. I mean, I think the

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problem with it is that the assumption
that the politicians would actually ever be responsible

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and is kind of a not realistic. I mean, this is why the

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FED in trouble if the FED raises
interest rates. Back in the thirties,

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the US government had to balance budget. So the idea, okay, fine,

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we can raise interest rates to affect
demand or lower them, and we

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were the demand. But now the
government is the biggest borrower in the system.

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If the Fed raises interest rates to
get us to stop spending so much,

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it has it only increased the suspending
government. No politicians goes down OLG.

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The Fed raised interest rates so they
wanted to spend less. Let's cut

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the budget and will never happen.
But yeah, this is my own personal

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favorite question, and we got probably
fifty or sixty, but we can't go

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through all of them. Also,
could you ask Martin if he has studied

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specifically the cycle of moral corruption as
a as a social phenomena. Are we

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anywhere near the top or do we
have room to grow to new heights?

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Here in Europe? Seems like they
are empty to this does first language.

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They empty the gates of They opened
the gates of hell, and no single

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evil has remained down. This is
part of why civilization collapses at the end.

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You get this complete corruption because you
know, government is keep trying to

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survive and as a result, it
just you know, it just it just

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basically is like a cancer to eat
of them apart. I mean, take

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like what they did the Trump in
New York, all right, saying that

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oh he overvalued his assets all right
to get and he had a disclaimer,

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don't rely on my numbers. It's
a guest in it. Yeah, But

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the point is is that it's so
absurd. You go to a bank,

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the bank has its own appraisers.
You can put me on whatever you think

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it is. The bank's going to
say, well, we think it's only

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this. So what they're doing to
Trump it's saying, well, we think

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the value should have been this,
even though you paid off the loan doesn't

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matter, all right. The problem
is once you create that precedent, they

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can go down the line and start
going after every company in New York City,

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every company on the big board.
Everybody puts values down. Yeah,

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there's a cost basis, but then
there's a market basis. And the bank

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doesn't want to know what you pay
for Trump Tower thirty years ago when they're

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going to collateralize it. They want
to know what it's worth today. So

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give them a number. They're going
to get an appraiser to come up with

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a number, or their MBAs will
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and then you agree on a value. And that's the way these loans take

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place. So they valuedd it less
than half what he did, they still

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made the loan, so obviously they
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I'm going back to my days as
a lawyer, and there's no damage.

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But sometimes it doesn't matter if there's
damage or not. If there's fraud,

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you don't want it in the system. But nonetheless, specifically, they were

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not relying on this anyway. So
the moral corruption cycle, is there any

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limit to it? When does it
crash? When society no? I mean,

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we're starting to get into the crash
mode. You take this twenty twenty

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four election we have here in the
States. I don't care who wins either

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side, they're both going to say
it's rigged. So you're looking at a

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situation now where this this election in
particular, it's just not going to be

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accepted by either side. Doesn't matter. You had yellow restarting it back in

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twenty sixteen, Oh Putin and Putin? Did I really won? All this

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other kind of stuff, and then
you know twenty twenty election. I mean,

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this it's just building. You can
see it. So I mean for

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the United States, for the Biden
administration to even allow these these lawsuits against

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Trump, it shows you something is
significant. Normally, you charge somebody like

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that, their credibility goes down.
Yeah, this is going up. He's

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forty seven percent higher than any other
Republican on the field. So that is

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kind of showing you the collapse and
confidence in government itself. Then you had

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Argentina, you know, say oh, well that's a good idea, we

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should criminally charge my opponent. Brazil
tried the same thing with b you know,

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bars Andoa. But I mean,
you end up in a situation once

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you do that, there is no
there's no going back. It's the same

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thing you know, they were they
had to go and impeach Trump. Okay,

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far don't you realize. Okay,
you do that, when it's your

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turn, they're going to come after
you for the same thing. You know,

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so they're going after Biden. I
mean to me, it's just an

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I've worked on Capitol Hill. I
can't imagine how stupid these people really are.

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They'd really think we'll will impeach Trump. They just look at that immediate

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election. They don't look at what
that means long term. You start doing

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this, the other side are going
to start doing it. It's that's just

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that's Washington. Yeah, you know, Mark Twain said truth is stranger than

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fiction. Fiction is limited by the
imagination, and truth isn't. And that's

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a third classic example. So here
along those lines, this is a good

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question too. History has proven the
power corrupts from the fifth grade all monitor

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to the pope. As long as
humans are in the equation, how will

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we ever find an equitable and fair
system? Kim wrote that, And I

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would just point out that once upon
a time, the US system was born

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from exactly what they're saying there,
and we had a relatively I don't want

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to say it wasn't perfect by any
stretch, but it functioned, and it

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functioned for the benefit of most people
as long as you weren't in an excluded

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class like slaves. Well, even
then you have to understand, if you

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really look at even the slavery issue, it began really with Britain trying to

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make money, and if you stole
an apple, they would basically say,

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okay, fine, you got five
years and they would sell you to a

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plantation in America. Yeah, all
right, They put you in an auto

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ship, send you over here,
and that was your sentence. You didn't

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sit in a jail cell, and
that was basically that's what the Constitution outlaws,

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and that your servitude, right.
But and you had Ben Franklin saying,

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how would you like it if we
picked up our rattlesnakes, put them

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in a bag and sent them to
you. So it was actually after the

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American Revolution that the Dutch started bringing
the Africans over because Britain was still doing

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the same thing, you know,
with its so called criminals. But that's

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when Australia became the penal colony,
right, so the American wasn't taking the

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criminals from Britain anymore, so they
you know, they shipped them off to

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Australia. But all this even if
you look at the the interesting thing about

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slavery is before eighteen fifty five,
congressmen they never got a salary. They

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got to you know, they were
paid on a per diem basis. That

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was it, and they know what
he meant for maybe a few weeks of

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the year. So in eighteen fifty
five the whole issue over slavery began,

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and to get people to vote in
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in eighteen fifty five. It's been
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that's the problem. I mean,
I've investigated many different types of governments,

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and I would say the best one
I ever encountered was the city of

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Genoa. It had the rich basically
were the rulers. But what it was

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was very interesting, and the does
are like president would be appointed and after

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that that family couldn't be the doze
again, all right, for like about

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twenty five years or so, so
they would never because it wasn't a permanent

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position. They would be the doze
for up to two years and then have

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to return, so they would never
pass a law against themselves. And so

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everything was more or less legitimate at
that time. And it's only with Marxism

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where you get into this rich versus
poor stuff. As long as the general

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law basically was looking at it from
a competitive standpoint against Venice and Florence,

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everybody benefited. It wasn't class warfare. It was warfare general against Florence,

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and so everybody in the whole city
benefited. But the whole the real key

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was that these there were term limits. That was it one time in and

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out, and you can't come back, and that family would not be you

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know, we would have to get
into Q again. You know, they

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say that the United States Senate is
the most exclusive nursing home in the world,

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right, Oh, pretty much?
Yeah, I mean it's I mean,

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I mean I knew Arlen Spector who
basically did the magic bullet theory on

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Kennedy. They lived a few doors
away from me when I was back in

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Jersey, and I just remember,
you know, him talking about the Middle

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East. All these guys are dictators, they've been there for thirty five years.

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So I turned to Ireland. I
said, isn't that about it?

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As long as you've been in the
Senate too. Yeah, well you know

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I was elected, I will so
were they. Yeah, just rigged election

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the same thing. But the whole
key is once they're on that side of

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the table and they become our enemy, it's then always against us. The

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key is there has to be term
limits, as I saw in general,

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then you're never going to pass a
law that you yourself would be it would

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be applied to you in two years. So it was much more responsible and

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was done basically as I said,
like to benefit the city against another one.

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And that's what we have to return
to once you have any kind of

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a career politician. I mean,
and I've dealt with governments around the world,

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and I don't see any difference because
once they get in there, it's

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always them against us all the time. It's universal. You got to take

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this central bank digital currency stuff.
Why are they pushing it because I've been

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flat out right told, oh,
we'll increase our taxation by at least thirty

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five percent, because whatever you paying
taxes, they figure there's another twenty five

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percent you didn't tell them about.
Yeah, and so that's why they want

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to eliminate cash. If you and
your wife go out to dinner and you

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hired the sixteen year old girl next
door to watch the kids, then oh

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my god, you paid her.
She didn't pay any taxes. How much

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did you give her? Where's our
fifty percent? I mean, this is

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what these people think about. This
is what they come up dreaming up these

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ideas. All right, so we
got one here. Does mister Armstrong have

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any confidence in the Iraqi dinar?
That's fat a scam running since the war?

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Right? Yeah? Look, I
mean most of these things, like

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he takes the Ukraine, you take
all of them. I mean, they're

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they're they're just propped up regimes.
At this point, there's no real economy

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that's honest and trust worthy, which
is really what is the backing behind the

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currency. You take the Euro.
I mean, when they were creating the

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Euro, they even came to me. I sat down with them, and

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they were putting out the propaganda that
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And I said, look, that's
not going to happen unless you consolidate

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the debts. And I know,
you know, because I was negotiating with

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them, and you know, Colwen
in Germany knew if he allowed the German

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people to vote, they would voted
against it joining the Euro. So he

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put Germany in the Euro. And
what he did was he insisted there'd be

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no consolidation of the debt because he
felt the Germans would go nuts if you

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were basically absorbing the debt of Greece, in Italy, etc. So that's

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why they told me, look,
we just have to get the Euro through

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and we'll worry about the consolidation the
debt later. And that was nineteen ninety

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eight. I mean, he's still
waiting. We're still waiting exactly. Yeah,

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And that's why the euro, you
know, was supposed to destabilize the

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Dour and all this other kind of
nonsense can't happen because the fund manager,

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if he's going to invest in Europe, he still has to buy the debt

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of each individual country. And that's
no different than you know, looking at

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all the states in the US.
Each one has a different credit rating.

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And that's why I said, look, the Euro's not gonna this is not

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going to work, you know.
And but they were selling it to people

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like, oh, it's going to
you know, de thrown the dour or

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you know, there is no net
federal debt for you know, he can't

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pick up the phone and say,
yeah, buy me ten billion dollars worth

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of European debt. It can't happen. You got to go, Okay,

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do I want Germany? Do I
want Italy? What about France? What

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are they doing? And you're still
back on the same issue as like the

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fifty states that we have. Correct, all right, So how do you

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see the relationship between the US dollar
and the Swiss frank in the coming years?

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Is it just more of the same
pretty much? Yah? I mean,

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Swiss is losing a lot of its
foundation and what made Switzerland great most

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people will realize. But I mean
when when Hitler came to power, of

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what they did. They passed a
law that everybody had to have their bank

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accounts off shore was illegal and it
had to be in Germany. And that

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was because of the hyperinflation. Everybody
moved money out of the country, et

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cetera. So effectively what Swiss did, that's when they passed their Secrecy Act.

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It was a response to Hitler.
And that's what made Switzerland Swiss.

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You know, during wars they were
neutral. That was a place that even

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you know, heads this state could
have put their money and not worry about.

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And now look at it. It's
so they put sanctions on on Russia.

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They confiscated private assets of Russians because
this was the agenda. You know.

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Once they did that, they lost
their new triality. They lost everything.

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Yeah, all right, will the
FD I see default on saving his

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accounts, bank deposits, CDs,
et cetera. When the default when the

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US defaults on its treasury notes?
If yes, when where do you put

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your money for safe keeping? Well, what you're really looking at is is

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uh, this movement towards the CBDC
H and at that point that's when that's

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how you do kind of default.
To some degree, I would be concerned.

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I mean, these people are kind
of ruthless, and the worse it

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gets for them, the more draconian
they will become. I wouldn't put it

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past them from even making it so
that, you know, just kind of

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I think what Trudeau did in Canada
was a trial balloon for them when he

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when he froze the accounts of anybody
that donated to the truckers, not just

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the truckers, but anybody that even
donated to them, and so effectively,

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what you could do, and what
they've been looking at is that even Christine

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mcguard said there will be controls on
it, they could actually, you know,

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simply say well, we don't like
Trump and you can't donate any money

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in the Trump you know, and
they could do that by saying outlawing buying

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gold. And keep in mind that
this is about power. They know the

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system is collapsing and as because of
that, they get more and more draconian.

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So the problem with the debt default, all right, you can see

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the stupidity like the Neo cos they're
bashing China over Taiwan et cetera. Okay,

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but uh, China is the largest
holder of you with debt. They've

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been selling billions every month because they
know if we're going to actually go to

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war, as some of these people
are out here saying, you know,

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we'll be in war with trying to
within five years, they cannot possibly hold

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any US debt. You don't buy
the debt of the guy that's that's trying

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to shooting help. That's why I
mean that there's just no coherent strategy anymore.

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It's like each little group is just
pursuing their own agenda. You got

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the climate zelts out there, who
oh, we have to shut down all

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fossil fuels heating, and now they're
talking about cutting out uh oh, air

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conditioning causes it. And I really
think that they've now created another lab type

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virus that's going after people's pets.
There's a sudden, massive, mysterious virus

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that's killing dogs and nobody knows where
it came's from. That's crazy, first

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time in history, all right,
So it's and it's a respiratory thing the

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same similar to like culds it.
So, I mean, look, there's

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nothing that these people is off the
table. These climate people, they have

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no idea. You shut off fossil
fuels, die off, a mass die

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off. Yeah, and you don't
want air conditioning, you don't want heating.

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You know, do you understand how
civilization is even functioned? I mean

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you're looking at massive, massive civil
unrest and civil wars over this kind of

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stuff. I mean, like I
say, these people don't understand I think

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what they're really even saying. You
go to some of these several countries,

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if they have no gasoline or something
like that, they came and feed their

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families. It is, and there's
nobody that seems to be looking at any

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of this stuff. And you had
just had John Kerry often Dubai saying that

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air conditioning is your problem, all
right, So you want to end all

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the oil so that kills the Middle
East there, and now you want to

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say they can't have air air conditioning. I mean, i've you know,

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we have an office in UAE.
They can me ninety degrees at midnight.

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And now you don't want any air
conditioning and you want to get it,

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you know, kill all energy.
I mean you know, hello, you

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think this is the Middle East war, Wait till you see what happens it's

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nuts, really crazy, all right. A couple more questions I think we

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covered, like really a lot of
terror ory here here. No, this

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one's a little a little confusing.
But if gold was used as an absolute

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basis for currencies, why wouldn't it
work once the price is established for gold,

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anytime a government printed currency above its
growth and GDP, the currency price

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would adjust downward. In theory,
I guess, well, that's exactly what

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happened with Brenton Woods. And they
fixed gold at thirty five dollars, but

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they kept printing money. It was
actually the Vietnam War that broke Brenton Woods.

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Yeah, doesn't butter the problem with
anything a gold standard or fixed exchange

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rate or whatever. The economy is
a business cycle. There are times that

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it goes up and then times it
goes down, all right, And when

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you go down, the currency rises
in purchasing power they call, you know,

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the flight to cash, all right, So and then in a boom,

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you know, the assets are rising
and the currency goes down. So

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you can't really fix anything because one
you'd have to eliminate the business cycle,

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which is what marsh was trying to
do, and you just can't do that.

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It's impossible. It is because weather's
involved in it. I mean,

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if there's a shortage, drought and
we's going to go up in price,

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it can't be the same price all
the time. So you have to understand

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also a lot of these people that
talk about going back to a gold standard,

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you have to change the entire political
system. How the democrat going to

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be able to run is say we'll
voote for me and I'll and I'll give

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you X, Y and z.
He can't do that anymore. It's gonna

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where's the food stamp money going to
come from? Yeah, it's it's it's

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a lot more complicated than simply go
you a gold black currency. It's it's

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never worked. Did they have always
failed because there is a business cycle?

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Yeah, all right, and now
that we have socialism with Marxism in there,

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they don't know how to run otherwise. All right, last question here.

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I really appreciate your patience with these, but I thought some of them

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were quite good. So, putting
aside the fear mongers with their frequent dollar

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apocalypse and sometimes gold hype, at
what date should we be holding a very

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minimal amount to no dollars and no
US treasuries. Well, I would be

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very concerned about the US treasury side. Okay, stay short term, and

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I would say after, you know, after the elections, after twenty twenty

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four, things are going to get
a lot different. It looks like we're

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heading towards war. And my sources
have been pretty pretty damn good. Really,

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these people are trying to create war
before the election, and the neo

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cons this is their fifteen minutes in
the sun. That's why they hate Trump

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so much. Because Trump started immediately
firing John Bolton and all these people.

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We didn't go to war when he
was president. We had no new wars.

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That must have been a great disappointment
to the military industrial complex. Yeah,

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well you had John Bolton immediately.
You know when I mean, I

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will say this. I went to
dinner at Mari Largo with Trump back in

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March of twenty twenty when he was
still president, and I met so many

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you know, heads to stay around
the world. He was actually the first

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time he and one of them ever
really impressed me. He said that he

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wanted to pull the troops out of
Afghanistan because he said he was sick and

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tired of writing letters to families to
say your son died for a godden country.

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And his words were, He's just
what are we doing there? They've

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been fighting over borders for a thousand
years. What difference are we going to

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make now. You had John Bolton
immediately come out like, oh my god,

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you know, we can't leave Afghanistan. These people want more all the

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time. If there were ten Russians
in Canada, he would advocate invading Canada.

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I don't know what it is with
these people. I know some of

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them, and they're just lose normal. They looked normal on the outside,

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but once they start talking right,
well, they This theory they have is

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that they talked themselves into like oh, Sadam Hussein was a dictator, and

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Assad and Kadafi and you go into
the if we go in and we overthrow

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00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:10,920
these people, they think they're going
to get a ticker tape parade and the

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people will cheer for being you know, freed. They think this of Russia,

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that the Russians will cheer, you
know, if we take out Putin.

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You know, you're they're just complete
nuts. And you know you had

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John McCain there at Maidan in Ukraine. Yes, overthrow your government. America

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00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:39,039
is behind you will support you.
Can you imagine if Putin came to Washington

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and did the same thing overthrow Biden, you know will support you. I

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mean, that would be so outrageous. Nuts it is, It's just completely

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nuts. So, I mean,
after twenty four I would be very concerned

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about government debt. The dour is
probably still going to remain king up until

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maybe twenty seven, twenty eight,
because as war happens, the capital concentrates

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here. But that's also why you
see real estates still going crazy. In

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00:45:12,599 --> 00:45:17,039
Florida is still going up. Besides, you have the migration from the Blue

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States to the Red States. In
addition, I mean, we have offices

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around the world. Everybody knows about
Florida, and basically, you know,

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00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:36,800
you're looking at a lot of capital
still coming in. I spoke to,

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00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:40,000
you know, realtors that I know
locally, and they say houses that are

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one to five million dollars. People
are just paying cash, snapping them up.

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00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,760
Yeah, there's no mortgage rates.
They don't care about that. Yeah,

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00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,039
go ahead, raise the interest rates. They're trying to get money off

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00:45:52,159 --> 00:45:57,920
the grid. That's really what the
issue is. So you see, gold

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00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,400
has been rising, stop market was
rising with it. That's what I've been

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00:46:01,679 --> 00:46:08,559
telling people. You're understand since twenty
eleven, since we started talking. Yeah,

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00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,840
I mean, you know, I
don't know if these people just ever

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00:46:13,159 --> 00:46:19,800
looked at charts historically or why.
But I mean we put out a chart

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00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,800
on our site, you know,
with the interest rates in the stock market

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during trumpshears. You know, when
you know Trump was there, the stock

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00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,880
market was when they called the Trump
rally, but the Fed was raising inter

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00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:37,000
strates the whole time. They didn't
talk about that. It's you have to

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look at this thing, you know, objectively, and stop with all the

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00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:45,840
myths and nonsense. But you know, as I've said before, you know,

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the US government was bankrupt in eighteen
ninety six. JP Morgan had to

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00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:54,000
lend one hundred million in goald to
bail it out. By World War one,

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US was already the financial capital world. By World War two, we

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00:46:59,639 --> 00:47:02,639
ended up with seventy six percent of
the world gold reserves. Why it was

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00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:07,119
World War one and two they sent
all the money here. You know,

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00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,360
you got tanks going down the streets, blowing up banks. You're not going

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to leave your money there. Appaholt
was flight. It was the same thing

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that I said that about Switzerland.
Because of the hyperinflation, people move their

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00:47:20,519 --> 00:47:24,840
money out of Germany and we're you
know, parking money everywhere else, you

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00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:29,159
know. And that's why Hitler came
in and said it's against the law to

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having an account outside the country.
Right. It was the capital flight because

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of the hyperinflation. Gotcha all right? Well that is it. Really appreciates

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00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:44,840
you spending this time with us,
Martin and answering these questions. Remember martin

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site is Armstrong Economics dot com.
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00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,559
and well that's it, Martin.
Always a pleasure. Thank you so much.

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00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,880
Well, thank you, it's great
to see you see again next time.

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