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you know, with our current political situation, Matt, if you had one
one or two words for today's current political situation, what would those one or
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So Matt, you know, it's so sad that there's just nothing going
on in the world today. We can talk about what I mean, I
mean, I mean your show must have been full of empty air recently because
there's so little going on. Oh I know, I know it. I'm
sure if you dig down deep, there must be a few things that you
can comment on in this month, Doctor Kevin meets the political reality world of
Matt Carterton. What's been the hot topics on your show this week? Well,
those last four weeks? Should I say? Oh? God, I
don't know. It's all over the place. There's always so much. It's
hard to pick something. I mean, if you ask me, if you
ask me something, I can probably tell you what we talked about around it,
because we probably did talk about it. But it's hard to pick things
at this point because there's just so much. So I'd like to get your
commentary or your thoughts on the whole Elon musque turning off the satellite link when
I was getting ready to send a bunch of drones after the Russian navy that
were that we're trying to shut stuff off, shut off the I believe it
was the wheat sale, and that he shut off of the drones couldn't be
used saying that he feared nuclear retaliation. What did you guys come up with
around that? Is? Elon well being conservative or is he is he being
a Russian bought trader? Well, you know what I actually admit, So
you got me. We actually haven't talked about that on the show. I
don't know. I mean I don't. I don't trust the guy, uh,
certainly, but I don't. I don't know a lot of the details
around that. I mean, the last time I talked about Elon Musk,
I mean, we did talk about him the show recently, but it was
but had to do with he's suing the Anti Defamation League forward defamation or accusing
him of defamation or something some other silly thing. So I don't know a
lot of the details around this, specifically what you've asked me about. Yeah,
well, it was reported both on The Daily Beast and CNN that as
your Ukraine was getting ready to do a counter offense against the Russian navy that
he turned the link down and that's what he said, that he was afraid
of nuclear retaliation. But I you know, there there was a lot of
discussion around should Elon Musk have that much power to affect or should we as
a government be stepping in here? I mean, what private citizen should have
that. I mean, this is. I mean, we all know that
the only bigger, bigger, boxed thing than X as it's called now or
his or his blown up space mission is his ego. But do we really
want somebody having that much power on the international stage, because I'm sure,
if we look into it hard enough, somewhere we had some funding or some
development that came out of the US military or something that somewhere would give us
the right to like say, hey, we we don't. We don't.
We didn't make you king of the world. You don't get to make those
choices, I think, I think so the challenge with that might be and
again I'm not I'm not too much well, I'm not an expert on this,
let's put it that way on this particular subject. But my impression has
always been that Musk is kind of doing everybody a favor by allowing what is
it called. It's not earthlink, or maybe it is what there's a specific
name for this uh statellite system. Anyway, Musk is not under any obligation
to allow the Ukrainians to use this system, so he's kind of doing everybody
a favor because he's actively losing money with this. That that's my understanding,
So I'm not sure how he could be compelled to cooperate. Oh, starlink,
thank you, Chris, Yeah, Starlink. But again, I don't
know much about it. But I don't know what kind of an arrangement he
has with the Pentagon or anything about that. But I don't know if there's
any way to like really force him not to do that, not to turn
it off if he if he wants to. Unfortunately, uh, well,
you know, it would not be the first time that our government or multiple
governments throughout history have decided if something is an issue that involves national security,
that they that they seize it. True, but I think in this case
it might be that might be more difficult because it's it's not necessarily about our
national security but about Ukraine. I think that probably complicates things too. So,
I mean, morally, unethically, I agree with you, but I
don't know if in a in a practical sense, I don't know if there's
much we can do. Oh, I see Gwen R. J. Wil
Lett outside, you know, Gwen, I see the top of his head
from where I am. But yeah, but yeah, that's unfortunate that Musco
did that, and I hope he doesn't continue to do that in terms of,
you know, shutting things off and trying to sabotage with the Ukrainians like
that, which I assume was his intention. Yep, yep. Well when
when he takes actions which our counter to what we're taking actions for, which
is about indirectly maintaining the safety and security of this country by not letting Russia
take over the eastern part of Europe one country at a time. M I
don't know. I think the case I don't know. I don't know if
the case can be made or not. But I think that this is definitely
this tipsy, topsy world we have of too few people having too much power,
you know, is almost reminiscent of the of the Dark Ages, Right,
I don't know. Am I being overly overly something? I don't know?
No more morally and ethically, I think you're absolutely correct. I just
I just don't know practically and legally if there's an easy solution there. Unfortunately.
So what did you so, what did you think about Peter Peter Peter
Navarro two hundred thousand dollars in two years imprisonment in prison? You think that
it's actually going to happen because you know, you know he's gonna he's gonna
try to h you know, yeah, can test it just like Bannon is
doctor Kevin It. Catch me up on that if you would, because there
was a breaking development on that. I think while I was on the air,
if I'm not mistaken, and then I didn't because we were doing something
else on my show. I didn't get a chance to really look at it.
But has he been sentenced? Is that what's happened? Oh? Yes,
he convicted of contempt for defying the committee. He Uh so, he
has been. He's been convicted as he both didn't provide documents that he was
suppeened for, nor did he show up. So he was convicted of two
contempts and he chased that he faced punishable up to a year behind bars.
And I read somewhere that each wand came with one hundred thousand dollars fund.
Okay, but he has been he has been found guilty. Okay, Wow,
excellent, Good, I'm glad. I assume now I was going to
say, I assume he will appeal it. But I don't know. He's
been crying poverty because yesterday he was on he was on the news talking about
you know, he's been talking to the media quite a bit, and there's
this one woman who has been protesting against him has been given him a hard
time, which has been funny to watch. But he's been saying he doesn't
have he doesn't have much money for lawyers. But it seems like a lot
of the people who've gotten mixed up with Trump don't have money for lawyers because
it's not like not like Trump is stepping up to help any of them.
But so he may not be able to appeal it. And yeah, I
mean, I think he'll he wears a lot of black, but I think
he'll look great in orange and grabs her a Orange will be the new black.
See what I did there? Yeah, yeah, I see what you
did. I see what you did? So yep, I mean and then
we so twenty two years the Proud Bye boy leader got yes Enrique Enrique try
yep too, I am reading, had been offered a if he pleaded guilty,
had had been offered a much lower sentence, and he decided to go
to court. So this is like four of the top dogs in the January
sixth Do you think there is going to be how do you think this will
affect any of the Trump stuff And how do you think and do you think
that if this comes out as it was an insurrection it was you know that
that these are that these charges could just blow back on any of the people
in Congress that were involved. What are your thoughts, Well, we don't
know that anyone in Congress was I mean, has it been I might be
forgetting something. Has it been certainly not established, But has it been implied
that there was anyone in Congress who was actively involved with the Proudless? Yeah,
you know, I've heard things about that they were in Congress that were
in conversation or we're doing information. And then of course there is the Jenny
Thomas text with Mark Mallett Meadows talking about how it is a calling this a
war. Yeah, so to space, I mean some of the people that
were Yeah, I mean I've heard lots of reference is two people that there
was stuff that was going back and forth between Marjorie Taylor Green and Jim Jordan
and some of the others that might just making all this up in my head.
It might delusional. I mean, it wouldn't surprise me. And I
do recall now now that you mentioned Jim Jordan that he got very nervous when
people started asking him about his communications with Trump on that day. But now
that I'm thinking about it, So there was a congressman I cannot, for
the life of me remember his name, but there was a congressman who was
kind of a person of interest because he was seen giving tours right before everything
happened, and the tours were very thorough, unusually so so there was some
suspicion. I can't remember who it was, though, and then we never
heard any more about it. So it may have been that there was nothing
there, or at least nothing that we know of. So I don't know,
but but I'm glad to see Enrique Tario get punished. Apparently he apparently
he was very contrite at his sentencing, but up up to then, up
to that point, he had shown no remorse. But I think it is
important to uh that people like him are punished to try to discarchage further violence.
Are you are you searching for something, doctor Kevin. It sounds like
you're looking for something. No, No, I'm just I'm trying to you
know, We've got four very significant things and I'm I'm trying to kind of
look at you know, No, no, I meant, I meant physically,
it sounds like you're looking for something in the drawer. Oh sorry,
that's just my normal walking around picking things up, ooting it down, blah
blah blah blah. Sorry I got I was curious. So but anyways,
any of this, how do you think it's going to affect the Trump stuff?
And of course now we have he just lost another thing around Jean Carroll
that this is just how much money he doesn't get to protest anymore any he's
lost the case. But yep, how do you think this affects any of
the other stuff? Well, I mean, as far as him running for
president, it's great. It's it's all great for him in terms of denomination.
You know, he sold his followers and I used the term followers very
deliberately that you know, I mean, he's effectively martyred himself. He says,
you know, they're not after me, there after us, there after
you. That's why they're after me and this kind of thing. And they
just keep sending him more and more money. After that mud shot was released,
I think he raised seven million dollars in one day. So it all
helps him in terms of becoming the nominee. I don't think it helps him
in the general election, certainly, but but it all but as sure as
he'll be the nominee. And you know, I've said, oh a long,
he's going to be the nominee, and wait at recent polling data,
more certain of it than ever. He'll definitely be the nominee. So it
all helps him in that regard. So they're looking into fraud with Sidney Powell
and money that she raised to overturn the election and what it was used for
versus what it was said it was being raised for, and where did these
dollars actually go. Do you think that that is at foreshadowing of something that
may happen with Trump with all of this stuff, or do you just think
that she's screwed? And do you think she's going to turn on Trump?
I don't think she's smart enough to turn on I think she's just I think
she's just out of her mind, to be honest with you, And I
think and I kind of suspect that a lot of what she did was probably
independent of Trump in that one thing. I do think Trump is a little
bit smart about is I think he I think he insulates himself from things.
I think he kind of This is just an impression. I could be completely
wrong, but I have an impression that he has a way of sort of
communicating to people around him, probably not explicitly, but implicitly, Hey,
do whatever you gotta do, and don't tell me about it. I don't
want to know about it. That's my impression, because we do know that
he's careful in the sense that he doesn't like to text, he doesn't like
to email. He seems to be oblivious to the fact that phone calls can
easily be recorded, but he doesn't like to text him, he doesn't like
to email, he doesn't like he doesn't want to be attached to things.
He doesn't want to be associated with things that might come back to bid him.
And then when a phone call comes back to bite him, he just
claims it was a perfect phone call, and of course his followers believe him.
But so I suspect that a lot of what she's done or cheesebrow or
chess brow, however you say it, well, things that he's done,
I suspect a lot of that may have jen when we've been without his knowledge
and consent. But I but Again, my impression is he kind of tells
people, again not necessarily explicitly, but he kind of tells people, do
what you gotta do, get this done. And I don't need to know
the details. That's my impression. Even even with the classified documents. You
know, he's telling this guy, telling that guy, you know, move
these, put them somewhere else, you know. But I don't think he
ever wants to be too involved in the details because you know, obviously he
knows what he's doing is wrong, and he doesn't want to be incriminated.
And he might actually be kind of like a mob boss. He might actually
be smart enough to insulate himself in some ways in those areas. That's my
impression. So okay, so let's talk about Now. There's a group the
ACRONYMST Crew I can't remember what it stands for, their art of Colorado.
They have filed a lawsuit that says Trump can't run for election because of the
fourteenth Amendment. There's talk in New Hampshire that people are going to say that
legally he cannot run because of what he did in his involvement. Any is
that going to get any traction? What do you think? Yeah, this
is something we did explore on the show this week in some depths. Ellie
Honig on CNN, their top legal correspondent, he was kind of the first
one I heard really go out of his way to throw cold water on this
whole thing. And there's there's two problems with it, with this idea of
invoking the fourteenth Amendment to keep Trump off the ballot in certain states. The
first problem is there's no mechanism to do it. So even if you say,
okay, well he's disqualified and we're going to keep him off the ballot,
how do you do that? Do you get some sort of court and
do you go to the state Supreme court in that state and get some sort
of injunction keeping him off the ballot? You know, this has never been
tried, It's never been tested, So how do you do it? Actually,
well, I'm wrong about that. I think I don't remember when exactly,
but I think in the distant past that it was tested, not for
the presidency but for another office keeping someone off a ballot, and it didn't
work. I don't I don't remember any details further than that, But but
there's that that mechanism of you know, it's it's similar to when we were
talking about invoking the fourteenth Amendment for another purpose, a different section of the
fourteenth Amendment to raise the debt limit. And there was a lot of conversation
around while can't the president just invoke the fourteenth and raise the limit himself unilaterally?
And part of the danger of that was, well, there doesn't seem
to be a mechanism to do that. It's never been tried, it's never
been tested, so how would that even work. So we seem to have
the same issue with this. So if state attorneys general or secretaries of state
in these different states, if they if they even attempt to do this,
you know, what would the process be. Do they just unilaterally decide on
their own? Well, I don't think Trump is eligible, which brings us
to the other problem. Who decides? Who makes the determination until he's actually
been convicted? Who makes the determination that Trump is in fact guilty of sedition?
Now, if you ask me, I think he is clearly. I
think he caused the insurrection on January sixth, and he certainly gave aid and
comfort to the enemy when he made that video telling the domestic terrorists as I
call them, the people who stormed the Capitol when he told them, you
know, I love you, I'm with you. I understand why you're upset.
You should be upset, so, you know. And now he goes
around talking about how he's inclined to pardon them if he's elected president. So
that's ongoing, giving aid and comfort to the enemy. That's my read on
it. But until he's actually convicted, you know, well, even if
he is convicted, not everyone's going to agree, obviously, But so it's
I don't think it's I think it's a non starter. I don't think it's
going anywhere. It would be nice to see that happen. And I think
he should be disqualified. And I think they should have convicted him at that
second impeachment and been done with it, but they didn't, and I don't
I don't think it's going to work. I don't think there's a way to
keep them off the ballot in any of these states. Unfortunately, well,
will you know, Unfortunately, you may be correct, though. There's a
lot of talk that this, if a lawsuit is filed for this, that
it's going to end up at the Supreme Court, and that anyone's guess,
because the Supreme Court doesn't necessarily has to provide what the mechanism is to make
it happen. They can just rule that it has to happen. But the
question would be would get Supreme Court or do that right? I mean,
obviously obviously it's a very conservative court. So who are originalists that say that
they they go by the letter of the Constitution and therefore they they could throw
a Trump under the bus. They could be great to see, especially said
you know, he illegally appointed at least two of them. But anyways,
it's kind of as it is, kind of a strange world we're living in.
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If okay and We're back, So Matt, Yes, what's your best guess?
How does all this end? How does well? I think probably an
asteroid, But I'm just guessing. I'm just spacing that on the nightmares that
I have. Is that what you meant? How does the world end?
No? Oh? Oh, sorry I misunderstood. How does how does this
current political food bar end? Oh? I don't know. I define end
because it never truly ends. I mean, what do you mean by end
like the election? Or what do you mean? Well? I mean,
do you think Trump's going to be president again? Do you think that,
oh, this is going to create a the end of the GOP as many
people have predicted. Do you think that this is point to create a third
party coming in? I mean, we've we've ped parties live and die in
the history of our We don't have Whigs anymore, and we don't have Federalists
anymore. They have evolved and changed. And depending on how all of this
goes, I think there's something to be said that the GOP is going to
have to do something besides get behind raising the voting age to twenty five,
which as going to happen. No, but they but it's been proposed you
know, of course by who? Then? Yeah, he did, I
thought so, No, I think I mean as far as that, well,
no, the GOP is not going anywhere. It's just, you know,
it changes that. It's it's right now. It's a cult of personality
around Donald Trump, and I think it'll remain that way until he dies.
But I think that could he be president again? Yeah? Absolutely, I
mean, Polly data shows it's going to be a close election. I think
Biden can beat him again because I can't imagine that Trump is expanding his base
among independents, you know, independents who abandoned him, who may have voted
for him in twenty sixteen but then abandoned him in twenty twenty. I can't
imagine they're looking at him now going, well, you know what, I
went for Biden in twenty twenty. But now that I see Trump with all
these indictments, I'm giving him a second look. You know. So he's
not you know, he's consolidating his bass, but he's not expanding his bass.
So but unfortunately, we have a president who's going to be eighty one
in November. And something that I've been saying on my show, Doctor Kevin
and others are generally hesitant to say it. Although I finally heard somebody else
in media stay it the other day. I thought I was the only one.
But it isn't polite. But it's just the reality of it. President
Biden is only one Mitch McConnell moment away from handing the presidency to Donald Trump.
If Joe Biden, god forbid, if he has a moment either,
can you imagine if it happens during one of the debates, that will be
the worst thing. If Joe Biden has a moment where he freezes up or
he forgets at some of this, you know, I mean, he sometimes
he forgets what he's talking about anyway, But if Joe Biden has like a
true I guess the term would be seenior moment, a true senior moment publicly
during a debate or even while given a speech, or even if it happens
privately, you know, at the White House, but then word leaks out
to the public that it's happened where he just freezes up or anything like that.
At he's done, He's done, and he will have ended the presidency
over to Trump. That's why I feel President died and is very selfish and
needs to get out of the race. He needs to let somebody else in
there, because you know, if he were to if he were to step
aside, I don't mean resign, I mean he can serve out his term.
But you know, he's, uh, his legacy is secure. And
you know, if you're if you're someone who likes what he's done, his
legacy is secure. And but he lisks his legacy. If his legacy ends
up being the guy who beat Trump and got Trump out of the White House
only to hand it back to him four years later, I don't think he
wants that to be his legacy. And there's a real risk that that could
be his legacy. Something that we talked about on my show last week.
And I don't know if you saw this. This is not filtered through the
mainstream medium, to my surprise, but Mark Halperin, who's the mainstream media
guy, was on Michael Smerconish's radio show, and that you know, that's
pretty mainstream, right, And according to Mark Halperin, high level sources close
to Biden are saying privately that the President has actually changed his mind and is
not going to seek a second term. But they're keeping it quiet and he's
proceeding like business is normal for the campaign because they're trying to figure out the
off ramp because they don't necessarily want it to be a Kamala Harris coronation,
even though she's next in line, and they don't necessary but they also want
to be fair to her. But they also don't know if she can be
Trump, and maybe Gavin Newsom would be better. So I don't know why
this isn't filtering through the mainstream media. Halperin's a credible journalist, He's not
some fringe guy. But yeah, Halperin says the decision has already been made
and Biden will not seek a second term, and that an announcement is imminent.
But the longer they wait, the harder it's going to be to get
somebody else in there. If they don't want it to be Karnala Harris because
she has very high negatives with people, although that can be that can be
fixed. But yeah, so he may be getting out, but if he
stays in, he risks being the guy who handed the presidency back to Trump,
and I don't think he wants that to be his legacy. Well,
let's hope. From Mark's ears to the lips, From Mark's lips to the
ears of God, as I like to say that. You know, Biden
is going to find a way, a strategy to bow out, and he
definitely gotten much more aggressive in his Trump commentary, Like, you know,
he just ignored Trump for ages, but now he's kind of going after him
with some of these comments and stuff. Yeah, a little bit. He
has it tried very lightly because obviously it's it's awkward because he doesn't want to
be seen, you know, he doesn't want to play into what Republicans complain
about constantly that Biden has weaponized his White House, that has weaponized the DJ
against Trump. So he doesn't want to be you know, commenting much on
Trump's legal problems. But at the same time, Trump is his opponent,
not officially officially because Trump hasn't secured the nomination yet, but it's going to
be Trump. Everyone knows it's going to be Trump. But that's another reason
why Biden should get out, because if Biden were to announce that he's changed
his mind, he's not going to seek a second term. Anyone else who
who's getting into the race, they're free to as long as it's not someone
currently in Biden's cabinet. I guess well, so that would we So that
wouldn't that wouldn't. Yeah. So, actually, for Kamala Harris it would
still be a problem because she's part of the administration. But if somebody from
outside of the administration is running, they could for the Democratic nomination. They
would be free to talk as much as they wanted to about Trump's legal troubles.
They would be just as free to do that as Chris Christie is.
You know, so that would be another reason for Biden to get out.
He's got so much I mean, he's got the age thing. He also
has this other problem, which is his son, who continues to just be
an albatrust. He's got to get out. He's just got to go.
And again I don't mean resign, I just mean, you know, not
run for reelection. So what were your thoughts about the Republican debate. Let's
see, Well, I'll tell him. I'll tell you who I actually liked
a little bit, even though I don't I mean, I don't support his
policies. I don't agree with him and I would never support him. But
Mike Pence, I will say this, I've been very tough on Mike Pence.
He actually showed, you know, it's funny. He took criticism for
this, but I liked it. He actually showed some a little bit of
passion and a little bit of anger during the debate, and I liked seeing
that from him because I've just always assumed that he's just this empty husk of
a man, incapable of actual human emotion. But it didn't see him phony
to me either. He actually showed some genuine when I ought anyway was genuine
emotion, and I kind of appreciated that. Although some people thought he came
off angry, but I said, well, that's good. You know,
let him, let him be angry. That's fine. Vet Kramaswami. A
lot of people felt that he won the debate and had a really good showing.
I thought he came off like a clown, but a lot of people
thought he did well, and I guess it's shown in the polls. He's
up a little bit. Let's see who else, Chris. Chris, he
did what I expected, you know, which is good. I like seeing
him being you know, he's the one person out there who's really willing to
go at Trump. Nicki Haley I thought had some very strong moments. Tim
Scott, I thought was fine. Some people have been critical of his debate
performance. He didn't have any standout moments, but I thought he was fine.
He seemed pretty solid. Who else, Asa Hutchinson? He was just
Asa Hutchinson. Oh, I did talk on my show, So Doug Bergham,
I thought, had a standout moment that nobody else in any media,
conservative, liberal, any corner of media was talking about. But I talked
about it on my show. He had a moment where he he kind of
stood up for public education and for teachers in public schools when he talked about
how in his state some of the things that they had done for public schools
and how he felt it was important to give public school teachers the support that
they need and so forth. And I thought he spoke very eloquently. It
wasn't an applause line. I don't think the audience reacted one way or the
other, actually, but it stood out to me because Republicans spend a lot
of time carrying down public education. They talked about public school teachers like they're
all trying to indoctrinate and turn your kids gay or trans or something, you
know, just this crazy stuff there. Republicans are always talking about and they're
always very down on public education. So to hear a conservative Republican stand on
that stage and really stand up for teachers and stand up for the public school
system, I thought it was a great moment. And nobody else was talking
about that, probably because it didn't get any reaction from the crowd one way
or another. It just kind of fell flat in terms of the reaction that
it got. But for me, I was like, oh, good for
him. I mean, he has no chance of being the nominee, but
I thought that was cool that he did that. Who else was there?
I'm forgetting somebody? Who am I forgetting? To Santos? Oh to Santas?
Yeah, yeah, he was forgettable. Oh. Actually, one notable
thing about De Santis though, I mean, you know, he seemed nervous,
you know, kind of not ready for prime time. But but you
know what, I don't think I heard the word woke out of his mouth,
or wokeness or wokeism. I don't think I heard that once during the
entire debate come out of him. And that was unusual. Now, there
is polling data recently that shows that Republicans really are kind of tired of hearing
about woke and wokenis and wokeism all the time. So that might be why
maybe it's finally getting true to him that, hey, that stuff isn't work
and people don't really know what you're talking about. People are concerned with economic
issues. They're not really that worried about you know, they're not as worried
about trans people in critical race theory as you might think they are. A
governor, the stuff isn't playing very well, and he may have taken that
advice, because I was genuinely surprised by that and pleased to not have to
hear about wokeness because usually that's his go to. Usually he blames everything on
wokeness. Anything you could throw at him, any issue at all, he'd
you know, if you if you, you know, ask him about climate
change, he'd probably tell you it's climate change is because of trans people.
So it was sort of refreshing in a way not to hear that from him.
Other than that, I mean, his performance was pretty flat, and
I think that's it. That's everybody right. There were eight people there.
Do we get everybody? You talked to Nicky Haley, you talked Chris Christie,
you talked five, you talked Santos, you talked to ASA, you
talked Dog, you talked to Mike Pence at seven we missed seven I've named,
but I can't remember off the top of my head. I mean it,
you know, some people called it the audition except for Chris Christy and
probably Nicky Haley and definitely Mike Pence that everybody will say was was really auditioning
to be Trump's VP pick. Oh yeah, I've been referred to it on
my show as the twenty twenty four Republican vice presidential nomination debate. Yeah,
of course. So yeah, Now, I always like to ask you this
question because you're very good at You're always very good at what is what are
people not talking about that you think that they should be? What's going on
that is? You're like, people are are not paying attention to this and
should be m m oh well, something that's not getting enough attention mention is
this is being talked about that. I'll throw it out there because it should
be getting more attention than it is. The Senator Tommy Tubberville holding up these
nominations for the military, it's really causing a problem because he doesn't want to
give in on abortion and boy seen. I talked earlier about how selfish Biden
has. He's got nothing on Tommy Tubberville. Little pos this guy is.
But yeah, people should be talking more about that. I mean, it's
it's getting attention, but probably not enough because it's really causing a problem with
military readiness. Also, did you see Mike Huckabee came right out and said
if Trump loses in twenty twenty four, it could be the last election that
is one with ballots instead of bullets. Did you see that? Yep?
What So let's let's stay with Tuberville for a second. Yeah, because you
are, you are more in touch with a lot of this stuff than I
know I am. What, if anything could they be doing that they're not
doing to take the power away from this man, because I you know,
I read things like even the Republican you know, McConnell and people like that
are are not really supporting Upperville, but they're not pressuring him either. But
is there any workaround? Is there a work around that somebody doesn't want to
want, you know, go nuclear to makes happen because we're talking hundreds of
and and you know, besides the fact it's screwing over all those four innocent
military people, you know, but it's also the key positions that are that
are you know, at risk. What is the nuclear option for Tubberville.
There is something, there is something that Senator Chuck Schumer could do. From
what I understand, he could put each individual who's up for a promotion which
should have been approved by now he can. He can put them up individually
as nominees for their positions and start the problem with that is it would take
a long time because instead of just all of these people being approved in a
perfunctory manner, each individual would be put up as a nominee for their promotion
and then you'd have to vote, and you know, so Tubberville wouldn't be
able to stop it because it would be a majority vote and obviously everyone would
would be approved, but you'd have to do them one at a time.
So I think Schumer is reluctant do it for that reason. Now I think
he should do it. I think Schumer should just say, Okay, this
is what we're going to have to do then, and we're gonna have some
late nights here at the Senate, but we're going to get this done because
we have to do it, and this is the only way we can do
it. That's what I think Schumer should do. He's reluctant to do that,
apparently. I'm not sure why. I'm not sure if it's because politically
he feels that this is damaging to the Republicans what Tubberville is doing, or
maybe he just doesn't want to spend those late nights at the Senate but or
maybe it's just you know, I'm always talking about how Democrats they, you
know, they don't tend to want to fight dirty, even though the Republicans
have no problem fighting dirty. So but it would be well within the rules
of course, so it wouldn't really even be fighting duty. It would just
be you know, using power to get this done. So there is a
remedy, and it may come to that. It doesn't look like Tubbville is
going to back down. He's pretty well dug in and he doesn't seem to
be at all concerned or he seems to be in denial about the damage that
this is doing to the military, but he doesn't seem to mind. So,
well, he's got well there's over years left before he's up for election.
Yeah, I mean he's a senator, he's yeah, he's got plenty
of time, so I don't know, and I don't know if there's if
there's even another option, if there's anything Biden can do by executive order on
this. Maybe there is, but but you know, Democrats get get nervous
about using their power. You know, it scares them so well. I
mean, I guess one of my questions would be, would there be a
p fedual light if I decided to start doing this one at a time,
that there would be a forced order like the oldest ones would have to go
first? Or could he take these very high level, really needed positions which
kind of screws over the average guy military. But I mean, and you
know, can we could could they do something like that? And I don't
know that answer, but you know, could there be a kind of you
know, let's just talk about the head of the navy, they head,
you know, like the key the really key positions, like could those just
go up? Or is there an order? Do you have any idea or
that's kind of beyond your pay grade? Yeah, ifond my pay grade,
I don't know. I don't know how it would work exactly, but something's
got to be done. I mean, this is impacting military readiness that that
impacts our national security. You know, it's it's it's it's uh, it's
it's no joke. As President Biden would say, come on man. As
President Biden would also say, So, McConnell, do you think they're going
to try to force him out? Now? I doubt it. I doubt
it. And it sounds like he's okay. It sounds like this is uh,
you know, kind of residual, a residual problem as a result of
that concussion that he had. So it sounds like he's probably fine. But
I think he's uh. I think he's in that Senate seat for quite a
few more years. So but he said sick, I think okay, yeah,
so he's he's got a few years. So we'll see, uh,
we'll see how he how he does. But yeah, I mean, I
think if there were something that looked like it was going to be a long
term problem, that would be different. But if it's if it's residual effects
of the concussion that he sustained, then you know, in theory, from
what I understand, not that I'm a medical professional, but just from what
I've read, it's probably will it's a problem that will resolve and it'll be
fine. But you know, but at that age there's other things that can
go leng So we'll see McCarthy again. He's screwed. The nut cases are
running the inside the saying asylum. Are we going to see a government shutdown?
Probably it wouldn't surprise me. I don't know. I didn't heard go
either way. I'm kind of fifty fifty on it, and I hope not.
That costs the economy and enormous amount of money every time the government shuts
down. I'd rather not see it. But I think it's uh, I
think it's quite possible. But he's a weak you know, he's the weakest
Speaker of the House ever in history. Really. I mean the deals he
had to make to get get through that fifteen votes and then finally get confirmed
as a speaker. You know, he's he's constantly got a gun to his
head in a sense, you know. But now I think I should go
either way. Actually, I mean he did. He did try to make
the case the other day that you know, look, you all want to
impeach Biden, but we can't impeach Biden if we're in the middle of the
government shutdown. So you have to pick one. You know, he's saying
this to the House Freedom Caucus. You know you got to pick one.
We can't do both. So we'll see, could go either way. Well,
if they set the government and then the economy numbers get back, then
they're going to try to play bike right now, the economy, but the
numbers look way too good for the Republicans to make a case of. That's
why he had read a bike. Now they make the case anyway, not
a good one, right, Okay, Well, let's see what's happening at
the beginning of October. I'm sure there'll be lots of news, because that's
just the way things are these days.