It's just like the old radio show with the additibility to swear a lot from
a mac of All Trade studio in Fairport and driven by Victor Chrysler Dots jup
Ram. It's bilified the Bill Moran Podcast. Well, hello and welcome.
Thanks for getting your pot on, Thanks for telling a friend. That's how
we spread the word about the pirate ship. I was trying to update something
on the Facebook live and it changed it the last minute. Just before we
were going on the air, I was going in to find somebody's phone number
and I said to Danny Ago, I have two mike thus that were listeners
to the show. You and I were part of the break room back in
the early two thousands or mid two thousand, two thousand and eight to two
thousand. Fourteen. Yeah, fourteen was the thirteen. At the end of
third December seventh, twenty thirteen, Bill miranded his last broadcast during a Christmas
party. It was a Wednesday night. Oh wow, and that was it?
And that isn't that a pearl hard Billy torpedoed and I didn't torpedo.
Go ahead. They did a great day've had, did a great job and
have crushed since then. They have crushed since I left. They crushed.
Seriously, Yeah they have. Yeah. I mean it's unbelievable, but it's
so funny. So I look and I go Mike the Dad. Mike the
Dad was a listener or a participant. He came in the studio. He
would tell us stories, some funny ship with that guy. Like you thought
he was like a walking sitcom, Like, Mike, are you serious?
Yeah, I remember he was like out prowling around the neighborhood. He gave
us almost chet. He's still the machete he never gave me. I still
have it in its plastic case. Yeah, yeah, I think I still
have it. I was. I was amazed with the size of those things.
That's like a yard stick. So, Mike the Dad, uh is
no longer with us. Mike the Dad has passed. And then there was
a guy I always called Mike the Hammer and hammer had come and done some
things around my house. Helped put in a a cedar plank ceiling in the
sun room. Uh, did some stuff with the uh when I did the
tree house, and just a good guy. And he was I think he
passed. Wow, Yeah, he got ill and passed. And then and
had a young son who was a big baseball player. Uh back in high
school. I'm just thinking of glory days. Uh. So then I think
he was probably that kid's gotta be around my son Jordan's age or a little
bit younger, not much. And then, uh, you just brought up
show are a lot. Sure's Jesse was another guy that hung out with Noel.
He died huh oh man ago a little while ago. And then you
brought up Noel who was the queen of the silver Dollar. And I will
admit this now that there was a time where I just killed a bug and
what it was I didn't I thought it would fly away. I was gonna
try to shoot it off. I didn't know that my big finger would hit
it and then die. He's got a bay attention, so she Uh.
There was a time where we had set up a whole thing with like actors
on the phone. It was a pretty elaborate bit where we had a kid
who was desperate for a prom date and she heard it and she agreed to
come in. So she came in and modeled dresses. But we never let
her in on that there really wasn't this kid. It was just some some
actor on the phone, and then we had some other actress play the kid's
mom and get all pissed off that this twenty eight year old woman was gonna
take your son to the prom. And that's how we kind of got out
of the bit and never never, you know, and like she got so
worked up about it, and Noel got worked up on the kids the Feds
and tried on these dresses in front of our use stream camera and we broke
records. Yeah, we actually froze the camera software for about an hour because
so many creeps were tuning in to see what Noel looked like. It was
dresses. It was funny because you know, the one thing like I will
say that I think that a lot of times we lose I think in this
form of entertainment is it was radio and so there was just you showed up
and you did your whatever, right, you did the music or and you
did your shift and you laughed. And to me it was like this was
theater and I saw it as a playground and an opportunity to play and manipulate
and have fun and entertained. I mean, to me, that was the
big thing, was entertained. It's a lost art now. Yeah, Well
but it was entertainment, and I think there was a lot of times that
there was this authenticity, which I think is true. I think there's a
real piece of that. I mean, certainly all of us had been very
vulnerable and open about our lives and things like that. But then the entertainment
part of it, to me was sometimes he manipulated these things and maybe it
was fake and no one knew it, and who cared? It was entertaining
and it was serial and you tuned into fun out what's going to happen next?
And I think it's time time has gone on things like war the roses
that I think Seacrest does and some others. It was all actors and stuff
like that. But but who cares. It's just it's entertainment and you take
it for that. And I think there were other people who wanted to I
want to expose you. It's not real, you're being duped. Oh who
gives a shit? And that I always thought you kind of sucked the fun
out of it, because who cares? Most of this this would be art
imitating lot if, which is what it's supposed to be, where it would
be real and and I mean, I'm sure Noel would have been upset if
she found out that there really wasn't a kid looking to go to the prom.
It was just some young sounding guy who we found and put him on
the phone and told him what to say. I mean, I used to
write all these things and you and I would go upstairs and I think that,
uh, I don't know. It was just it was just funny.
It was hysterical. There was just one guy we had on perpetually, right
and oh god, the black comic black Head, black Head, black Jeff.
Yeah, but then he was a real comedy and he wanted to come
in for real. He wanted to refuse and we couldn't. We couldn't get
him in it because he was in New York or something and we couldn't get
him. Boy, So he said he was trying to get booked at the
club. Oh okay on his own. He used to call me and we
used to talk. He wanted to He thought we were the coolest people.
And there was So we did a comedy show or I think it was Phil
damber or one of those guys like opened up or clothes the show and there
was this one black guy there and well, the well among ten other people
walked up to are you black Head? Are you black Head? And I
had opened up the comedy like introduced everybody right, and I'm not a comic,
and part of me goes, do I walk up to that guy and
just ask him if he's black Head? Just for you know? No?
I didn't, and laughterwards, like you know what, I just should?
I should just say, hey, do you mind if we set this up
ahead of time and go I'm gonna get this question answer what's it for all?
Are you black Head? Oh? That's funny because if we kept ask
are you blackhead? The poor black guy, one guy, one black dude,
it's funny. Black Head was hilarious. We didn't tell Tommy either,
but Tommy was kind of smart enough to figure out what was what black Head's
not realized because I think I did shout with him on its back and like
Jupiter and in seventy two. But yeah, we had a blast with some
of them. Yeah, we did remember the guy we had where like he
goes, hey, I got the he was a Puerto Rican sounding guy and
he goes, yeah, I got a problem. What's what's the matter?
He goes, So, my brother's a real motro man, Well he had
a kidney trans land. All of a sudden, he's gay. I think
he got a gay kidden forever. Like we came up with some fucked up
shit. Man, we wrote some really funny things, and that was is
entertainment. Well that's how I always and I always thought, like, you
know, people get upset that there was enough real stuff, like I talked
about my kids, and you talked about things in your life and Tommy and
his there's enough real stuff that you know, sometimes sometimes real life can be
kind of boring. If you think about anybody, right, everybody goes I
could be a reality show. Well maybe you couldn't. You know. You
got a few highlights throughout the week. Maybe you got one on Monday,
possibly one on Thursday. And that's it. And so today I'm going to
the posting, you know what, I'm going to buy some stamps. I
got a mail letter to my mom. All right, so those are the
so to me, this was this was just fun. And then there was
a way to come up with content, and I enjoyed, like really trying
to come up with some stuff that would be just on the edge. And
then you had the really deep listens to go that was real was everyday.
Oh tell her, Mary, that's illegally. You can't do that. I
can't do that, Mary, stupid because there was a documentary. Oh god,
it's just funny. And I do think like for radio itself, come
on, man and radio, I don't I don't know how to say it
because I don't want to. I love it, and I this would be
an extension of that, you know what I mean. So I don't ever
I never begrudge radio. I never would ever say anything really honestly about the
medium itself. Maybe some of the people in it, but the mediums in
the room with microphones creating something. That's what it's all about. Forget all
the superfluous management at all the other garbage. The greatest thing you could do
is collaborate with people. Right. If you can collaborate with people and build
something, that's that's the greatest stuff. So that's that's what we were doing.
But at the same time, it was fun for me to try to
pull I love to manipulate shit and set things up. I mean, I
set all kinds of things up. When even when I was on the Wii
show that he wasn't aware of that. I would manipulate that would become like
I guess if you could catch the host off guard, well, I could
reacts exactly. I could never get in So everything everybody was hearing was authentic
because they didn't know that the person on the other end calling up about Bobby
Joe saying something bad about a sponsor or a SPA that she's like, oh,
they were horrible, and then you know, other things. And then
to have someone call up the next day and go, I can't believe that
she said all that. Oh my god, what happened? And then to
hear oh, uh, my wife and Billy's wife they called each other.
They were shot right, that kind of stuff, and that was where you
know, you got you got the real reaction, and I could get things
that people wouldn't bring up to come out that I knew were great content.
Oh yeah, you know what I mean. I had a cousin come up
driving up to the Thruway and he goes, which day she losten to you
on? Cous I go nineties five. He's driving through. He called him,
who's this condom? Kyle guy? Man, that is hilarious. I
don't remember what the condom Kyle bit was, but man, and then the
other stuff we would do. I would play with the callers. If they
had something, I would try to get him to, like say something better
than they would originally tell me. So we had the Eric, the guy
who called about Eric Holtz, the guy who with the car he stole the
cars, and then he would he got out of the call to Sack when
the cops had him cornered, and Ed said, oh, he's a real
douchebag. Eric Holts is a real douchebag. So this kid, this guy
kid calls me up. He goes, Yeah, this girl I'm banging.
She went to school with Eric Colts and she says he's a total douche.
I go, you gotta tell Billy that exactly how you told me. You
go, Billy, this girl I'm banging right if Tommy couldn't stop laughing.
But that was it. I mean, it was so it was fun.
And you don't hear that much in radio, and you don't especially in Sports
Rader, you don't hear anything any of this just in just now. Okay,
seven oh three pm is when we were recording this on Thursday, August
twenty fourth. If I say, Bray Wyatt ww wrestler dead at thirty six.
Oh wow, Yeah, I don't know, Holy caw. Did you
know? Was he a big wrestler? I know nothing about Gray Why?
Yeah, he literally he was a big dude, very big dude. And
he had a run for a while in the WW and then out of nowhere
about a year or so ago, Vince McMahon just released a bunch of wrestlers
and he was one of them, and there was a talk time world champion.
Yeah, there was talk that he was going to be brought back once
Triple H took over, once Vince was shown the door. Then he came.
He actually came back into and a lot of people really had high hopes
for Bray because he looked like a guy who could be a world champion and
carry the company because when everybody laughs, well it's it's not real. No,
it's real, it's just choreographed. And when they hand you the championship
belt, the idea is that you're gonna be the biggest star or the biggest
villain in the company. But also ultimately you carry the company. You're the
guy that they trust, You're the main character. Now, kind of like
Batman in the Batman series, got you right, or Superman or whatever.
And Bray Wyatt was a guy who had a following and I hadn't seen him
rustle in a while. Maybe he was having health problems or something. Did
they say why he died or I said die unexpectedly? I don't know,
Okay, I think there was some speculation there and I didn't really because there
was. There was an athlete named Brodie Lee who passed away during the COVID
era a couple of years ago. He was from Rochester, but he had
a heart or lung issue, lung issue, and he passed away. And
I may have actually accidentally met him once when like those guys who do the
wrestling show on Saturday mornings at HTK, these do the show, they'll bring
these rustlers in. He got'm trying off of the w and law behold,
these guys would get in like years later you wouldn't remember them, but they
would get in, you know, because they were following their dream. And
but pray, why that's that's too bad, That's too bad. He's a
big dude. He had a lot of potential. Uh. The other day
my birthday, and I was trying to get in shape doing some running and
stuff, bought, new sneakers, getting the whole thing going, and you
realize how old you're starting to get. And when you hear of a thirty
six year old guy dying, it's like a little scary, right, you
said, you go, oh my god. And I've actually had some people
that I've gone to high school with just die. Right when when when when
you hear somebody died, the first thing you want to know is why?
Right? Exactly? Well? Were they sick? Yeah, because if they
were telling me it was no, it was an alcohol poison. No,
okay, it was it COVID. Don't let it be anything. I was
like, right, because, like, is it? Could that be any
of us? Right? But then I did, uh, I did hear
your Kevin Hart did this whole piece where he's sitting in a wheelchair and he
was being funny. It's about two minutes long. Actually, let me see
if I put a little uh pause in there. But he talks about now,
Kevin, aren't you said to me you gotta see shape. I'm pretty
sure he works out all the time, had a personal trainer. I've watched
some documentary that he did. I think it was called Being Kevin Hard and
he's working out all the time. And then Fabletics, which is supposed to
be like Lulu Lemon for men, but half the price is his company and
he's I mean, Kevin works out a lot. I just I think that
Kevin's working out is more strength stuff. But listen to this, well you
know it. Anytime somebody starts talking by saying, well, it's bad lady
and gentlemen. The age forty year is real tall my men, women out
there that forty years old and above, it's not a game. Respect that
age. Respect that age or that age will will make you respect it.
I was just forced to respect it. It's just public service announcement because I
know people may see me out and I don't want you to be at long.
But I'm in a wheelchair. Yeah, I'm in a wheelchair. Why
would because I tried to jump out there and do some young stuff, try
to go out there and do some young guh some young man stuff, and
I was told to sit my ass down. Shouts out to Stephen Wiley.
I'm gonna go to put this story out there before you do. Me and
Stephen we got into a little debate. This debate was based off of who's
faster. Those that know me know I'm pretty fast. Stephen said, ke
ain't no where you're gonna beat me. Stephen, his ex NFL running back,
played for the New England patrons. Very good guy, I said,
Steve, you get better, he said back, I said back. We
get out there, we go run the forty year old dash. Forty yard
dash. Guys. I blew all my shit toward my lower abdomen. I
my abductors are torn. I don't even know what that is, but I
tore him. I tore those two. I can't walk. Sit my ass
there. Your doctors, I think, are in your hip like your hip
abductors. Okay, so I don't know, like you really gotta be stiff.
I think to tear those we'd have to get a physical therapist on.
But I'm pretty sure that is the case. This is forty four tall.
What you just lost, son, You just lost every opportunity of me going
to racing you anytime soon. It's over, Kenneth, it is over.
Sit down. What are we competing for at this age? Why are we?
Like? What am I doing? Why do I even race? Stupid
as shit of it? Now? I can't walk because i'm somewhere trying to
get the title of the fastest guy getting the barbecue. What was I thinking,
son, It got to be the stupidest man alive. It is what
it is, man, this is life. Uh you know, I'm out.
I a lost six to eight. I blew my ship. Well,
so when did you injure yourself at an being older? Okay, maybe trying
to do something. The first time was in I think two thousand and six.
I was twenty six years old and I hadn't played competitive baseball in years,
and I played softball with Brad Davies and I was the third batter up
and right out of the box there was this uh it was at it was
at the Henrietta Fields, and I stepped into a hole on the baseline.
Wasn't that deep, but it was deep enough where I pulled my quad.
I'm like, oh, you know, like, I'm like, I'm only
twenty six, right, why north stretched right? Because I think and I
could do this. I'm still a young Most guys are in their prime when
they're twenty eight, you know, yeah, you know. And so that
was the first time. Second time, I'm working with you one morning and
I'm living with my ex wife at the time, and I go in to
pick up my bag from work in crack my back and I can't walk,
and instead of giving me sympathy, she's like, that's because you don't work
out. Yeah, I'll take care of or something like It's three o'clock in
the morning, I gotta get to work and I can't move. You know.
Found out that what it was was I have I had what I still
have this issue? Uh, no, spine, that's not true. Crooking
hip used to say that whatever time, when you got away the time,
we used to say that all the time. I get him Greg. He
helped me grow a spine. But it also but like I was like on
medications like muscle relaxes and stuff like a week. I mean it was,
it was bad. And then I've had those back issues ever since. And
that's what reminded me that I'm I'm old. Alex has joined us. Alex
is the producer of Games, debuting in a couple of weeks, uh,
which we taped a bunch of episodes best Yeah, five episodes. Five episodes,
just knocked out five yeah. And it's some really interesting topics that they
discussed and uh, it's usually based around a game, like a normal game.
But we were talking about Kevin Hart and how he injured himself racing somebody
who said he tore the abductors and his hips the because I'm going, I
remember trying to go out and run like I used to be able to run
the half mile in high school in under two minutes. And I went twice
around the track, right, yeah, and yeah, I did it in
like a minute somewhere around one fifty eight. And man, I went out
and I was so fucking depressed when I heard my first lap time, I'm
like, fucking fucking I'm out. I was so mad. But by then
I'm like, I had kids and stuff, and you just I think the
biggest thing you can do for your body, and I don't think this is
one that Kevin Hart would do does is stretch. It's stretching in yoga is
the biggest thing. And I stretch. I even go on YouTube and I
find uh wretches for stiff people. But I do that stuff because it it
like it really does help you. And then I went and I've been having
trouble with my achilles, like they burn and they hurt sometimes si achillies.
Yeah, so I when I went to fleet feed. I talked to them
about sneakers for that, and so now I have it's his guard it's the
old guy. These are old zero pain. Yeah that was the what was
that? That was? I'm a hunched over, I walking and fleet feet.
All of a sudden, I'm six foot one again. No no pain.
Good story, good feed story. Yeah. So this so I tell
them more when I haven't, They go, well, you want something with
less of a drop to the heel, you want it more even, And
then it even says with guardrail right side, like I got old man stabilizing
sneakers. But I've been running and I feel great and I got it hurricanes
for your feet. And I'm not and I'm not running fast like I'm I
don't know that I ever was really smoking and you know, running that fast,
But I just like it. It just feels, I think, feel
it feels good to be moving and stuff. But I would make sure you
stretch a lot, my buddy. You're hearing that stretch a lot. My
buddy, Steve just turned sixty. He don't look sixty at all. He
looks like in his late forties, but he's he's always looked a little bit
younger. He's always taking care of himself, but his feet have always been
an issue. So he's got to wear these like special shoes. What's the
one with the anonym new Balance. Yeah, he's got to wear these new
Balances with really thick, thick souls and one shoe is thicker than them.
But do you have dropped foot or something like it's one foot not as like
long or leg as not as long as the other because yeah, because his
feet, so he's got could be any number of things, like he could
have like like hip things, or he could have like an achilles thing like.
There could be a lot of reasons why you're like you're uneven. But
the guy still plays, He still could plays competitive softball. He flies out
every weekend to tournaments across the country really to win money. Oh yeah,
Steve Horton, Yeah that guy you were in the band with. Yeah we
got a new band name by the way, but yeah, yeah, he
yeah, he flies out. He's very a very strong. He does not
look like he's sixty years old. But his feet, though, he's got
to wear those special like feet or eighty. Yeah, and my ears are
like eighty. I can't hear shit. My wife says the same thing about
me. What I have husband hearing. He's go on the podcast and talk
about like men have men hearing, men vision. When when you ask of
like when I ask Lewis to find stuff in the house, like can you
can you see if you can find my keys, They're always in the same
spot. He'll go in the kitchen, they're hanging on in. I'll go
in the kitchen. He'll look around. I don't know where the keys are.
Did you look or did you boy look right? Look? That is
true? There is I guess that is. Oh, yeah, it is.
You have vision. And if you like, come home and put your
wallet and your keys on the counter, and and we move them a little
bit a little to the left. You can't suddenly can't find him anymore.
Dress park dinosaur. I'm a big it's a little. It's just based on
movement. I was always that was always my thing. Hang up your keys.
I don't know. I don't so much time on the planet, I
don't want to spend it looking for keys at all at all. I don't
want to look for anything. No, So I always make sure I hang
up my stuff. That way I can just at least the life tells me,
honey, we have a spot for the remote or what you call the
clicker. It's right here on the coffee table. When you're done, put
it right here on the coffee table. I know if it's not right here
on the coffee table that you somehow didn't put it right here on the coffee
table, because I always put it right here on the coffee table. Oh
my god, I think I'd lose my mind. I think I would lose
my mind. I mean that's a little like, Oh, she's not nag,
and she's just saying like, well, yeah, because you're gonna pay
this problem. You spend fifteen minutes looking for the remote, and then you're
frustrated, your heart rates up now I don't want to watch TV. Fuck
it. Yeah, then we gotta spend forty five minutes decide of what we're
gonna watch. Yeah, and it's died fifteen. Well, we can't do
a movie. Do you have a system where like you, if you guys
are watching a show together, you're not allowed to watch an advance of her
or she's not allowed to watch like if you guys are both, she's not
allowed to watch the new episodes of Glee. Until you. Yeah, but
we haven't really had to go through that yet because we don't agree on many
programs to begin with. Really, yeah, we just don't. It just
she's more into like she loves anything with an acronym like N CIS and SCI
or CSI rather like Lawn or SUV. Could you ever watch with her?
I've watched it and CIS isn't a bad show. Yeah, not at all?
Actually, I okay, So what happened to Gibbs? Like, like
you actually care? Well, no, I'm just interested since you know you're
watching this. I'm just reading here, But you know, it's kind of
curious what happened to Gibbs? You know, do you ever find out that
you know more about the shows she watches than you think you do? Oh
yeah, oh yeah, where did this lady come from? She's only out
for like four episodes? Okay? What I mean, like, all of
a sudden, you've become a fan of Big Brother even though you never watch.
But now cable tv now has caught onto the and they caught on a
while ago to the binge watching thing. So let's just do episode like something
like okay, like Family Guy on Friday nights on Free form is all night,
okay, or on Comedy Central, it's like it's office Night, like
every other night. So you'll go through the entire series maybe three times in
a week, you know. And so she's like, didn't you watch this
like like last week? Uh uh No, I didn't. I don't.
I don't remember that because no, yeah, this is the one where Jim
Todd. I'm like, yeah, you're right, I'm sorry. You know.
It sounds like you do a lot of apologize. It give me a
relationship that I do a lot of goofing around and I'm an e Mark Okay.
But then again, like the stuff that I watch more like like when
I when I'm by myself, I don't watch regular television. I got to
watch a show that really sucks me in. Or I'm watching YouTube videos and
learning things, or I'm watching football tape, or I'm watching watch I watch
economics videos, sales videos. Also watched one ecod videos. You watch like
how economics works the whole thing, because you're r right, you gotta pay
attention right now in the world, Billy, Like you know, if interest
rates are flying and Biden's falling asleep at the switch, I don't like you've
got You've got to be prepared for the next election. You know. I'm
I'm in my forties now, I gotta be ready for this. Okay,
I guess that's good. How to buy a car like because like you know,
like how to buy a car? Well, yeah, like negotiations,
stuff like that, you know. But I like learning stuff like that,
yeah, and understanding how it works. I want why. I want to
know why. I'm curious about the why. Why is it the way it
is? We're I'll watch video on football, like I'll watch tape I've been
watching. Uh, I went to look, is there another sea another episode
of Hard Knocks? Yeah, I ran twos. They haven't seen it.
So I just went today to look and I didn't see it. It was
still showing me episode one. I haven't seen episode two. This should be
three. Now, I thought, I don't know why my hbio And so
I went and watched Winning Time the Other Lakers document or what not Fix a
fictionalized version of that, but I do love that. And then, uh,
I've started a show that I never watched when it was on TV,
and I just watched it all the time and I just put it on.
Please tell me. It was Barry on HBO. No, no, no,
worse, worse. Yeah. Suits. You know, it's funny.
Everybody's watching Suits is because Netflix has put it on its front page. Everybody
wants to watch because I try to capitalize off the Megan Marco Harry what I
mean. But I've gotten into the show because they want it. It's a
very simple. It's a very simple show. Like I can see the writing
on it, you know, and it's always this drama and they're fighting.
It's just stupid. And I I think I fell asleep and it ran through
maybe two episodes and I can still figure out what was happening. And it's
not is it lawyers, the lawyers, Yes, it's lawyers. It's this
kid who didn't go to law school but is absolute genius and took the LSATs
for people they paid him, and then he was running from some guys who
were after him for drug money. And he winds up in this interview,
does the interview, and the guy goes, i'd give you the twenty five
thousand. He goes, uh, we only hire Harvard lawyers. He goes,
ask me anything in that book right now, and I'll tell you.
And he explains it all. The guy goes, I'd give you the twenty
five thousand dollar bonus right now, but we can't. He goes, well,
you know what, I just graduated from Harvard and so now it's a
lie. So he's not. He's never passed the bar, he's never done
anything. They've somehow hacked in and made all this stuff and that's the big
secret. Now they like and that that's the dilemma in suits. So it's
a really simple, dumb show. But they got good looking people in there.
Some of the chicks are kind of hot. And that's it. It's
all right, I tell you need. That's all I need. Was it
Ella law the big show in the eighties where he's like lawyers slaping with each
other off. We'll take a moment when we come back. Fairport Music Fest
kicks off tomorrow night and they've got a whole bunch of stuff going on right
through Sunday when they're gonna do a big jam at the at Iron Smoke.
So Rob Work is gonna come in and artist Jen Christie, who I know
nothing about, but we'll find out all about her. So that is next.
But first Iron Smoke Distillery right here in Fairport, New York has something
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the weekend to be in Fairport against the Fairport Music Festival. It kicks off
tonight and over Ironsmoke Distillery. At six o'clock you got Roy Wilson and the
Buzzards taking the main stage. They play some rockabilly. At seven thirty will
be Whiskey Treaty Road Show. It's kind of an Americana roots folk band.
And at nine thirty part of the Fairport Music Fest it's North Side Johnny and
Rock in the stage. And then be sure to come back tomorrow. Beginning
at one o'clock you have Ethos and there'll be a band on the main stage
at Ironsmoke Distillery just about every hour until eleven o'clock at night when it wraps
up with the time Tommy Burnette Ban and Friends doing their alternative country and of
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Christie, the name of the song is Cross, will be playing at the
Fairport Music Fest. And Jenny, you gotta forgive me because I'm not familiar
with your music, but I wish I was because it's exactly my personal genre.
Like I love singer songwriter and I kind of get that vibe. Would
that be fair to say. And I'm a big fan of a guy named
John Hyatt that nobody really probably knows. And if you look behind you,
I love the song Tennessee Plates And that's how I usually closed the podcast all
the time. It's a nice tribute to Elvis, and John wrote the songs
that other people made famous. I think probably Angelized in late eighties was one
that Jeff Healey did and he was one. But god, this is beautiful,
really nice. Is it odd to sit there and hear yourself? Right?
I mean, I know it's kind of like when you were you know,
when I was in radio, you'd have to sit in a in a
room just you and the program director and listen to yourself, and you just
wanted to find a way to just slink out the fucking door and can I
slide out of here? But I mean you're a pro. You've been doing
it for how long? Your whole life? Well, I'm professionally about twenty
oh no, I don't like this at all, like twenty three joint four
years? Okay, yeah, but I mean probably your whole life. I
played my whole life. Yeah, yeah, that's fantastic. And then you
told me you're from Bloomington, Indiana, And so I said to you,
what are you? Always asked I had to ask that John melleycam anything about
him? Yes? And sure enough? Right and and we were talking about
Mellycamp But you toured with him in Opening Up Blaye? How did that work?
I was actually a backup singer and multi instrumentalist. Yeah. So have
you ever watched the documentary on Netflix called twenty Feet from Stardom? That's not
great, it's fantastic. I love that, especially when they get to uh
with the Rolling Stones, with the yeah, with uh, what's your name
Mary Clayton? Yes, yeah, and the story and they even kind of
confirm it in there is like they woke her up in the middle of the
night. She's living in France, right, feels like pregnant too, Yeah,
And I had that and she didn't exactly attribute that to the singing,
but all over the years it was and they weren't. That's my absolute favorite
album. I think that's Exile on Main Street. I thought maybe, Yeah,
I think so too that I love that album, and I might be
I might be wrong on that one, but I was always loved The Stones
and all that. So Rob Birch is here and can we start at the
beginning, because this everything starts with an idea, right, everything starts with
an idea, and there are many ideas and a lot of them. You
just you ever, you're ever sitting on your couch and you see something to
go, God, damn it. I had that idea. Why I couldn't
win a million fucking dollars? But but like this was an idea to start
the music festival? Whose idea? How did it come about? And where
we are today? So about twenty years ago, High Falls used to do
the party in the park. Yeah, yeah, it was that High Falls,
right. I was down there and we had been doing a golf tournament
that benefited Galisano's Hospital. Yeah why why why were you involved in that?
The guy that ran at his daughter had to go through the hospital. Yeah,
and everything's great. She you know, she had a bad cancer.
But okay, mother, now she's had thirty three years. Fantastic. I've
always said about Galisano Children's Hospital, I hope you never need it, but
man, I'm glad it's there. And I had three boys. We practically
had an easy pass at times getting in and out of there. These guys
were in and out for this that. I mean, my my middle guy
who's twenty one now, I was having what we thought were seizures, turned
out to be severe food allergies, man like right away, projectile, vomiting,
losing weight. So you're back in the hospital and they're fantastic over there.
I mean, it was really really great, right. So we were
involved in that golf tournament and I was coming back from party in the park
and I go, how can we incorporate music? You know? So we
batted around the ideas up at the village in over a few beers came up
where all the best ideas always always and it was more than a few beers.
It was late, that's even when the better ideas. How do you
think the Declaration Independence came about? It's back when I could stay out late.
Yeah, I didn't even really remember the conversation I had with an Andy
mcdgomot. I went to work the next day and email Pops up, Hey,
let's meet for lunch and talk about this thing, this music thing.
I'm going, oh, okay, it's always better when what you don't remember
is a good thing, exactly, it's the bad thing though. Like,
So we got together and hashed it out. We decided I was on sabbatical
from my job. I had somewhere off with pay okay, so I took
the kids little so I took him the Disney World for ten days and went
broke. And when I came back, the rest of the time I work
done. I didn't know what I was doing. Still don't really know what
I'm doing. And those are always the best. I always think that when
you don't know what you're doing, there are no rules, right, it's
the people that know what they're doing and start to incorporate the rules, which
I'll say is resistance, and then ship doesn't get done right. So when
there are no rules, we can all you gotta live like that. Yeah,
right, So it's only going to be a one year festival because we
figured, you know, yeah, I had the time and this is a
lot of work. And then but it went. It was very small.
You've been to it, Yeah, it was like five hundred people there,
Yeah, probably, I think it was at the first one, mainly in
this parking lot on the other side of the canal from our studio right over
there. Right. We only had two stages. A matter of fact,
our biggest area we had kids stuff in it. We didn't even have music.
So yeah, this is some of the bad ideas that we had.
I mean, it's all you never get it wrong and you never get it
done. Yeah you know what I mean. And I think we raised twelve
thousand dollars from it, and then we just we we're on a one year
contract. We always like two weeks from now, you'll hear us saying they'll
talk about next year's music festival. We don't know if it's going to happen.
Everybody's got a great idea immediately following the festival, it's like, hey,
you know what you guys need to do next year? Yea? And
our phrase is always if there is a next year, But do you know
there's gonna be I mean because at this point, guys Fairport, you know,
and I know, I know you're not from here, Jen, But
the this this has turned into a little Nashville I call it because it's there's
so many restaurants and places that in the summer there's so much live entertainment,
and our summer probably like Bloomington, Indiana. I don't know, uh is
brief right, We've got a window that's really about three to four months that
we can go out and do. I always think we don't sell our fall
well enough, but because we can go deep into October. But there's always
live music and things around here. And the Fairport Music Fest has kind of
now become the fabric of this town. And you've got restaurants that are coming
in because of what a hotspot this has become. And that's part of the
thing. Yea here Now, Well, I've had the town people in and
I know that during like I think it's the fair Port Music Fest. Who
was the guy? Is there a guy that was bringing out his golf cart?
Oh? Yeah, and you would pay him and he would run you
up and down to the different venues and things. And I think they're thinking
of hiring people and buying golf carts because the parking would be down in the
old railroad bed. And I keep saying, I'll find a bunch of guys,
let's invest I'd love to make some money off a park, you know
what I mean. But but I don't know if that'll happen. Yeah it
should. Yeah, So how many we're twenty years in? Yeah, there'll
still be year nineteen nineteen, Okay, so nineteen years in and each year
it gets bigger and bigger. I mean now we've got jumbo screens and a
third stage behind and then is there anything down by the cannery outside stage or
just no? No, everything's in those businesses, so you so but involved
in there would be things in Iron Smoke, Hot Chicks, so you can
go in there and tin Cup? So inside where would I see gen Where
won't you all? Really? Are you playing? Are you playing? Yeah?
So tomorrow I'm just gonna let that sit there. It's rude to say
anything. Tomorrow what Iron Smoke. We're gonna have a little jam okay,
which you'll participate. We got about three or four bands and then other so
we're actually gonna this. This piece will drop for people to download Thursday,
So tonight, yes, yeah, tonight okay, And then and then on
Friday we have Jumbo Shrimp and a band called Magnolia Boulevard out of Kentucky.
Do you know them? I've been here when they've one before. They're just
incredible, Okay, unbelievable. Jumbo always does the opening party, is it?
Where's that going to be? That'll be behind Mulconneris that's the one stage
that we have? Well, hello, hell, yeah, it's always fun.
It's not around, is he He may pop up at anytime. He's
everywhere, Yes he is, yes, And so we'll have a jam session
for the last two hours of that and she'll participate then. And then on
Saturday, are you playing in the morning jam on the B side? Probably
so eleven thirty at the B side, yeah, yeah, and then six
o'clock on the south stage, which is right over here, right over here,
yeah, yeah, yeah, and then the afterburner which will be Sunday
and iron smoke right and and how do I find the schedule if I want
to find It's on forport Music Festival dot com. And it's got all the
other venues on it too, not just our stages, and then links links
to the bands and yeah, how long does it take to put all this
together? And to go out and do you scout bands? You know?
I remember going once to south By Southwest with a guy, a local promoter,
and he was scouting bands to bring here for party in the park or
other other things. Do you go do that? I used to do it.
Now I let my daughter do it. Yeah, she's all over the
place and she loves it. Yeah, she's the one who turned me on
the Magnolia Boulevard. Is there a vision with this at all? I mean,
obviously great fundraiser for the hospital. They have to be so grateful for
what you've done and what this has become. But is there a vision to
maybe make it almost like a Northeast by Northeast? I don't you know what
I'm saying. I mean something along those lines or no, we would need
an infusion of youth, an infusion of youth and the volunteer stuff that we
do to make it any bigger. Okay, it's it's quite a chore,
yeah, I know. I mean I see the stuff and it's really impressive,
and it's such a fun. It's just such a great vibe. Right.
There's something about music that is this is gonna sound hockey but kind of
healing in a way. And I think does right? I mean, am
I wrong? I really believe that, And I think that there's something about
bringing the community together for a common goal and everybody is just there to have
fun. Yeah, right, and in the hospital brings that to you know
what the charity is. Yes, I think that's very important. I don't
know if we would be that successful had we've done with another charity. Yeah,
because they you know, you know, they're big around here. They're
they're big. And I would always say this too. You know, there's
lots of charities, but this is one where the money stays local, right,
and so you're helping out. And it's not just Rochester, but it's
the greater Western New York region. How many people do we hear about child
dad in Canadegua ends up at Thompson and they don't have what's needed, so
they transfer the transfer them up here. And what they're doing at the hospital
now is amazing. There's private rooms, they've tried to make it comfortable for
mom and dad stay there. They've done some really innovative things over at Alicana
Children's Hospital, and a lot of it has to do with this. And
you know, the one thing I think people aren't very aware of is that
a lot of times at hospitals, they don't You can't turn anybody away if
somebody shows up in need. So sometimes where does that money come from?
Where does the money come from to pay for someone who doesn't have the money.
And it's charities like this, you know, And all we're doing,
when I think about it, is Uh, making a better community, right,
You're making a better community. Yeah, I mean it's a better place
to live. So that's pretty good. How did you get involved? Jen?
Did they come out and find you in Bloomington? How did they lure
you here? Well? I was coming up doing theater shows in Rochester.
We're doing Bruce Springsteen show. But we're out at Marge's and my boss partner
was up playing guitar and he comes up and he was like, you have
nice hair. And I was like, oh, hey, what are you
doing here? I'm with that guy up there, you know, And then
uh, toy about the festival. And then a few years a few years
later, Yeah, invite me out. And I've stayed. Yeah, I
haven't moved in yet. How many moved in? It's a nice area.
I love it. I do too. I mean I'm not originally from here
and went to college he or a million years ago and just stayed. But
I love it. And the finger Lakes are great. If you've been down
into the finger Lakes. Yeah, he always says it. But I always
get here and they're like, I don't want to leave Fairport. Yeah,
I mean Fairport itself. There's a charm about it. It was funny because
my youngest kid lives with his mom at a state and he came to visit
and he was out talking to somebody. He would go do on the street
interviews for me. He's just a kid, has no fear of anything.
So he's talking to this guy and he said where he from. The guy
was from Austin, had always learned about the Erie Canal, wanted to come
up and see the Erie Canal. So my son Jamison says, oh,
yeah, well what do you think of Rochester? And the guy goes,
I'm not in Rochester, I'm in Fairport. And Jamison goes, wow,
and then he goes and then Javison said, now you're right, this is
a little safer. That's a little scary. But we took our rackies for
lunch today. So oh yeah, that was an experience. I loved it.
Yeah, it's very good. I ate my pasta. Yes, well
positive for the day you get. You got a carbload, you got a
big weekend, you got a big weekend coming soaking up everything else. Yes.
So how many albums I've done? Six? Six albums. One was
a live one a live album. What is that experience like doing a live
album. I've always wanted to capture it because my memory is like an etch
a sketch, So definitely during shows, I don't remember a lot that happens,
so to capture that moment. And I love the human connection and everything.
So I say a lot of stupid things when I'm on stage, and
I don't know what I'm talking about. So we canceled all that. We
took all that, but it was just really cool to hear like the audience
response and get to experience the show from an outside perspective, you know.
And I didn't pick myself apart or anything else, like, It's just what
it was, and I loved it, love it. I always wanted to
do one. Where can I go? Get Jen Christie albums? Modifying,
yeah, Apple, all of it. Yeah. So what's your background?
Like you're a kid parents musical? Oh no, I'm adopted into a very
non musical family. Really. They got up on the piano at around three
and picked out trades fire and they put me in lessons and then yeah classically
trained, yeah, and classically trained. Where did you go? I ended
up going to IU for piano performance. Okay, I did it for semester
because I had a full scholarship for swimming, so I had to an athlete
and a musician. Well, I was a swimmer. I can't do anything
else. A hall of fame as really, Jen was just inducted into the
i U Sports Hall of Fame for swimming. That's pretty cool. That's amazing
because I'm going swimming to me is so I many years ago I did a
triathlon, not like a mini one, not a not the full thing,
not the Iron Man. So the running and biking, okay, the swimming.
I went out in the heat. All of a sudden, they're swimming.
The next heat came out, they were swimming over top me. I
got kicked in the face. I had to sit on the side of the
thing at the end of just and it was a half month. That's it.
It was just a half mile. I couldn't do it. I shouldn't
do. I appreciate the swimming because that's the running and biking. It would
be a team. Swimming is a whole I mean, it's your whole body.
Yeah, you know that. That's and talk about. I mean didn't
I don't know much about swimming other than Michael Phelps and what he used to
eat during training stuff. Man, he burned some calories. My coach would
sit there at the end of the lane and like, you're underweight and giving
peanut butter and stuff like that. Really, because I mean, I just
what happens if you get underweight and swimming. Well, it was a sprinter,
so all the other sprinters had big legs and everything, and I was
like a little stick and yeah, like she'd always try to beef me up
a little bit, but yeah, okay, it's it's just losing power when
it comes to sprinting. So adopted into a non musical family, I think,
to me, adoption is such a wonderful thing because you get opportunities that
you may not have had. Did you ever go Now? I have a
friend who had given up a child for adoption and and that kid is man
now and found this person and it's been a wonderful reunion, it really has.
And sometimes I'm not sure about the dad. They were teenagers and it
just wasn't, you know, the right thing, And I always think,
what a what a gift to somebody else. It really was. My parents
were I think trying to get a to adopt a kid for like six years
and then I came up on the market, I guess, but uh well,
and they it was like one day visit and then they sent me home
with them. So you know, it's always a joke going. You adopted
like a little older seventeen and a half months old, Okay, okay,
okay, yeah, but I just I mean, I just sent off in
Tennessee. It was a closed adoption, so I couldn't I can't reach out
to my family. But I just recently found out who, like where I
came from, because they released all the papers to me and I was like
one hundred pages of like just my dad was a bassist and was in a
cover band in the Southeast. It was just it was crazy to find out,
like it is nurture and it is nature. Yeah, this isn't amazing,
And it's nice that they were able to nurture you enough that you were
to take piano, get classically trained, and be able to find this love
of swimming. And really it was I got. I was very lucky.
Yeah, and I have great two older brothers. Thing. So yeah,
and so you've never I think it was twenty three and me or whatever is
how my friend found did you do anything like that? Are you interested in
doing it, I'm not really like I I have a friend who's a PI
and he like was immediately like I found a picture of your dad. I
found a picture of mode. I'm like what and so that that was enough
for me. And okay, I know a little bit of the background in
history just for you know, family, But yeah, I'm good. I'm
happy with my life. You know, everything worked out and you have the
pep your family right, and I have friends and you know, I just
how supportive were the parents then for musically and everything else, like when you
started bands and things, because I think a lot of parents kind of your
first thing is like you're gonna be a what Yeah, you know, like
the ideas although you were going from piano correct yeah, And I mean I
dropped out of that program pretty quickly, but Mellencamp hired me my fourth year.
I had finished my swimming career and immediately hired me. So I didn't
finish my college career. My parents were always I was. I was going
for general studies at that point, so okay, they're like, you need
to go back. And then finally I have a company at home that does
tribute and reviews and stuff. Like that, and they finally started coming to
those shows and they're like, Okay, you've made a business out of this.
I mean, they're very supportive with music, but they were always like
go back to school, geared to something, and I'm like why, I'm
perfectly happy and I had a great career. Yeah, So how did Mellancamp
discover you? I was singing the national anthem at an IU basketball game and
he was there. Yeah, and he had heard me singing my sophomore year,
but then he heard me again my senior year and then approached me or
had me brought down to him. And I didn't really know who he was.
I knew who he was, but I didn't know I love it,
no, see, and he should appreciate that too, right, it's not
somebody dying to get on stage with you. With someone who loves music,
that's who I want next to me or behind me. And it really was
just like, hey, come out of the studio. And then he was
like, you want to go on tour, you want to record on the
album? I was like, sure, why not? Like I haven't done
that before and I'd never been to a concert in my life. So my
first concert in my life. I was on stage, so holy shit,
Yeah, that's amazing. I learned a lot. Wow, how old were
you? Twenty one years old? Ye? Man, I mean it was
an introduction. We were on tour during the when Night eleven happened, and
so we did the concert for New York and we did Today's show and so
I was thrown into it very quickly, and it was an incredible experience.
And the fact I can say I've played Red Rocks, you know, it's
yeah, it's really it's cool Red Rocks. It looks beautiful. I've never
been and I love the Rockies. I spent some time in Park City,
Utah, and then I went over I really, really really I went to
college here. I had taken a year off and I really wanted to go
to the University of Boulder at Colorado. So I went out. When I
was in Park City was their first summer and I went out there and I
remember calling my mom. She's like, it's too far and there's no this
and that size. I an't fuck. And then my sister goes to the
University of South Carolina and it made no sense. But uh, it made
no sense. Yes, it was four hours away from where I grew up.
But wow, what a what a? I mean, just it's right
place, right time, and talent and talent well, and the talent.
The difference between classical music and all of this. Yes, it's so drastically
different. The chops are there because of classical But yes, I had to
learn a lot. And I mean I learned a lot from Pat Peterson,
who was the backup singer. I'd watch her and be like, okay,
we're doing that now, all right, now, you know I'd learned all
the moves and and now I just act a fool. Were there? Were
there? And you can see your act a fool Saturday night at six o'clock
south stage right here at the fair Port Music Fest. Very good. Yeah,
there you go. Look at it. See come on, buddy,
I can sell it. So were things choreographed for backup singers with meloncampinat was
slightly? I mean did they try to know? I mean there was a
lot of positioning and stuff like that. But dohn ever yell at you,
Oh he yelled at everybody. Doesn't getting No, I don't know. Do
you stay in touch? Not really? I stay in touch with a lot
of the band members. Yeah, a lot of the band members and stuff.
Uh, because yeah, John was I mean, did you ever watch
his daughter on Real Housewives? Yeah, I've never I've never watched it either,
but I always was like wow, And I think he showed up on
a few episodes or certainly was talked about. I think. Yeah, I
mean had in spec. His sons were very tiny and I'd have to play
football on the ground with him when I was because I was the youngest one.
What were the kids names? HUD and spec head Inspec HUD and spec
Spec? What was spec short for? And anything? Spec? That's amazing,
isn't it? Yeah? I kind of. I really like that because
I've never like who's called spec spec. It almost sounds insulting in a way,
and it's an easy one to yell out spec. Yeah it is.
It is. It's one of those that you can really call that name.
Wow. This is fascinating. And how many have you been here before?
Obviously you've mentioned that, but how many years have you played art? I
think my first one was in twin team before the pandemic, and then I
did an online one and then I think this is maybe my fifth. Yeah,
what happened during the pandemic? Rob? You I mean to keep this
going. So did they do an online we did. We did Friday Night
online. Yeah right, yeah, yeah, yeah, we did Friday Night
Online. And but during the course of the summer we did these little things
we were calling pop ups. Yeah, and during the COVID thing, so
we'd go, we'd get a band and a food truck going to somebody.
If you remember, this is when you can only have one hundred people in
your yard and you know, all that or ship was going on. So
we did about forty of those and raised seventy five seventy five thousand dollars that
summer. You had to be able to present a check to the hospital for
seventy five thousand dollars during the middle of a pandemic. How satisfying is it?
Frankly, it kind of dwarfs the larger checks we've even when we've run
the full festival, because it was We've got a really good volunteer base,
and that's the entire organization is all volunteers. But we got a dozen dozen
and a half people who are kind of regulars because we would have six popups
in a day, like on a Saturday, we do one o'clock, three
o'clock and then four at five o'clock, and it was just people were just
trying to get together with people again. Yeah, sure, and the pops
and I mean there was such a craving for that socialization. The bands loved
it because you can practice all you want, but you weren't getting out in
front of anybody. The food trucks loved it because they were essentially shut down
during the pandemic. And so we still do a few choice pop ups during
the course of any given year. But now that bands are able to play
normally, and now that food trucks are doing graduations and bar Mitzvah's and everything
else, you know, there's there's a little more planning into The popups were
truly just an organic. Hey, we have this neighborhood party and we're wondering
if you'd like to come by and sell some Fairport Music Festival merchandise. Really
and and that happened the first time, and we met at the village in
because that's where all of the good thoughts happen, and we talked about we
don't have to get down to the village in. We need some ideas.
The first one it was like, so how much money did we make yesterday?
And and it was just over a thousand dollars the first time. It
was like, all right, I don't really have anything else to do this
summer? How about you? And we It was probably about forty or fifty
of them, and that the hospital was blown away. Sure, how did
this happen? Yeah? Oh, that's great because it's it's beds that they
need and those things, and there are thousands and thousands of dollars and that's
uh, that's great. Tickets, How do I get my bracelet to get
in right now? Tickets are only available online port Music Festival dot com.
They're twenty five twenty five dollars and you pick up the bands. We'll call
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Lift Bridge in Maine, Lift Bridge of Main Yeah, okay, which is
just on the other side of the lift bridge. Yes, it goes up
and down. It's always fun with the traffic. And then there's a train
and there's a train. I man, I watch one day because you know,
there's several ways to get in here, right that'll avoid all that stuff.
And I go, man, I watch some people they get stuck at
at the bridge because the boat's going under. And then they get over the
bridge and now train it's coming and they go well, then they take the
U turn and drive all away. Yeah, I think it all pissed off
and everybody's huffing. It's like, give yourself a little extra time. It's
a little bit of charm in fair Port. That's what it is, a
little bit of charm. Janet. It's been a real pleasure talking to you.
Are very interesting. What is another song? Oh you do me in
Bombie Bigee? Yeah? Can I play that? Sure? I absolutely love
that song, and I love covers of that. There's a thing like I
remember an old radio host who's in town, brother Weez, would always say
a good you know, like cover songs, Right, you had to do
a cover, And I never understood why. And then I started hearing covers
that were done in the vein of the artist, not so much as a
tribute. Right, it's not karaoke. And I loved it, and I
my dad loved Janis Joplin. Uh, And so there were a lot of
it would be blasting throughout his Uh. I think he had a midlife crisis
and bought a fiarro at one point, remember that, remember the ground that
high off the ground, and I think that they had fires in the engine.
It was just like a real piece of shit sports car. But he
would blast Janis Joplin and uh, I was always a fan. Is this
on the live album? It is? Yeah? How fun is it to
see the audience singing along too? It's kind of a drug. It's definitely
a drug. Yeah, if I could bottle it, Yeah, it's it's
definitely definitely. I like this. It's feeling news as now you splice a
couple of different performances together. I don't know about but at least video guys,
because you've just changed your outfit three times in the video I'm watching.
That's amazing. I should do that. Magician, none of my good and
I was blaring so my Bobby sand the Blue. Now do you have a
full band here with you? I actually have musicians from here really are so
generous and amazing and uh, they learned my music and it's just another incredible
Now, no pressure. But will you do covers? You will? It
will be one of them. It will. We'll be there Saturday night,
coming from good What's good enough for me? Good enough for me? Love?
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Over? Sixty sixty bands? Yeah? Did you start planning for next
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more? Danny, you're band? I was gonna say, you're new band.
But your band plays a lot of nineties Ny chance you'd ever played this?
I would love to play this, you kid me. I would act
the whole thing out. Hey you you meet me? What's meet No?
Himp him? Meet me? No? No, all right. I would
definitely do this, but I'm dealing with like four guys in there, like
late fifties, sixties, so I doubt it's gonna happen. What is the
name of the band? Now? The name of the band was don't know
yet yeah, and then they shit on that idea. So it's now called
the vanity project. The vanity Projects. You know why, because all bands
are vanity projects. Billy who came up with the name, I did all
right, and they liked it. It's kind of like a wink wink to
like, come on, don't take yourself too seriously. Okay, you're just
a cover band. Don't take yourself too seriously. We start recording your own
stuff and putting it out and people buying it, then I'll take you serious.
What's your number one hit? Our number one hit? Well, we
have a lot of hits really, but like do people are people are allowed
to like request? Well, there's there's certain songs that like we have a
one hundred dollars roule on Freebird. Then I into Nashville and found out that
they have a one hundred dollar rule on Freebird too. But they're playing for
tips in Nashville. Like, nobody that you get in the bar. You
just get to play. That's it. If you don't get make any money,
you're screwed. But nobody, nobody gets paid except for by tips.
But with us, we do it. We do a version of La Woman
by the Doors that nobody does. We do a version of Whipping Post by
the Allman Brothers that nobody else does. And we do a version of Rock
in the Free World where we used to blend in Urgent by Foreigner and Lou
Graham that nobody else does. So we have certain songs that we do that
nobody else does them the way we nobody else, but other bands do the
same thing. We cover songs and ways no nobody else does. Play like
wasn't that fifty fifties? Micauld played the covers like Noah, I don't know,
I don't remember it. Yes, probably. Do you have any originals?
No, yeah, I should, I don't. Is it hard to
do an original Rochester? Yeah, because people people I have no sensibility writing,
you know what I mean. But a music I'm thinking a musician,
it might be a little bit easier. It might maybe. There have only
been a handful of musicians and bands who have gotten out of Rochester with their
own stuff. Joy Wave is like Danielle Ponder yeah LVO but with Daughtry Yeah,
well he wrote songs for other people though too, but he had like
he wasn't a band of way before yea, they and they had their own
original stuff, but they also mostly played covers and then who else. There
was a band called Hard Rain for a while. I don't know what happened
with them, and of course Black Sheep Yeah, which led to luh.
Wegmans is pissing some people off. Yea, So Wegmans put out signs in
certain places it says, our Wegman's brand sodas contain aspartame and high fructose corn
syrup, artificial ingredients which do not meet our food you feel good about requirements.
For this reason, we've made the difficult decision to stop offering Wegman's brand
soda or committed to helping our customers live healthier, better lives through exceptional food,
and we want you to feel confident in our Wegman's brand products. Some
people think this is big brotherish controlling what you eat or drink or putting your
body, and I'm going, I'm not sure about that exactly. I don't
know why they're not doing that, but uh, I don't think he's limiting
your choice, because there's certainly I think they're just controlling, exercising control over
their brand of stuff. Yeah, this isn't like Bloomberg in New York that
sodas can only be like a certain size, right, that's kind of controlling.
Could be because there's recent studies that are suggesting community in July cancer and
all kinds of other health problems. And maybe Wegman soda does not want to
be attached to any kind of lawsuit, you know what I mean down the
line where people are like, I only drank exclusively diet W cola. That's
why they put all them. That's why they put all the ingredients on the
label. You're supposed to read it. So that's what what releases them from
liability. But the thing is like aspartame, Like the FDA took them eight
tries to approve aspartame back in the seventies and eighties. It took what they
shut it down eight different times, and finally the right people came along with
the right amount of money and got them to go along with it. It
leads to autism and it leads to pancreatic cancer, among other stuff. Here's
the thing that I don't I don't like that that soda was eighty eight cents
for wasn't really never had it. I don't drink Could it be because like
aspeare expensive. No, well, I don't think. I don't know that
it's more expensive to make. I do think that it has to do with
aspartain because it does make it kind of cause pause and consider what you're putting
in your body, right, So I went for people who don't know.
Aspartame is an artificial non sac ride sweetener two hundred times sweeter than sucros and
is commonly used as a sugar substitute and foods and beverages. It was approved
by the US Food and Drug Administration in nineteen seventy four and then again in
nineteen eighty one, after approval was revoked in nineteen eighty, so we had
it from seventy four to eighty. It was revoked in eighty and then back
in eighty one, so it didn't it wasn't gone that long like somebody was
making some money off this. Aspartame is one of the most studied food additives
in the human food supply. Reviews by over one hundred governmental regulatory bodies found
the ingredients safer consumption at the normal acceptable daily intake. I don't know what
that is. Basically is based on a two thousand calorie diet. If you're
drinking it maybe with one meal like dinner or lunch. Ok, that's probably
where they try to assume, okay, but most people don't. Most people
don't do that. No, most people want the super gulp at the local
country fair. So I went to a big jug according to NPR just last
month, and this is probably why Wegman's now coming out and doing this.
The announcement this week by the World Health Organization this was in July that the
artificial sweetener aspartame, used in such low calorie products as diet coke, tried
and gum and sugar free jello is possibly carcinogenic to humans has many wondering in
the if the food out of it additive is safe to consume now. According
to doctor Francesco Bronca, director of the Department of Nutrition and Food Safety for
the World Health Organization, said that concern was only for high consumers of diet
soda. Now I knew somebody who drank diet soda every day, probably damn
if it was twelve. I wouldn't be surprised if they drink twelve a day,
or at least a six pack, because I'll say at least a six
pack a day. Did they have a lot of joint pain? I no,
they were a pain and everybody else's joint. But I can think of
one person that I know like that, and it would be interesting to see
what happens. You're our lab rat, right, you know what I mean.
I know a lot of people that drink like especially on set, Like
diet coke is like a commodity. You have gotta have diet coke around,
and I don't know people. I personally can't do anything diet or anything.
I can taste the aspertain. That is the first thing I can and really
thing I can taste, and I can't taste anything else. So I can't
do anything with fake sugar. If it has fake sugar and any kind of
fake sugar, I could tell really instantly because I'm like, this doesn't taste
like it just tastes like chemicals. Yeah it's bizarre, but yeah, it's
like like while you drink the diet cherry PEPSI sometimes this is a little pick
me up. But I don't drink a lot of soda. I hadn't drank
soda probably for years, and then I just started doing the diet stuff again.
Yeah I know, I know, people who are love diet coke.
I can't go near it. Yeah, yeah, I can't drink any I
don't drink soda anymore at all. But when I did, I couldn't drink
the diet stuff. It was disgusting, but it made it made it sound
like those fewer calories everything else. Well, yeah, because you couldn't measure
espert tame like you could sugar. Right, that was the trick. But
the tradeoff is you're putting something in your body that your pancreas doesn't know what
to do with, so over and over the according to the International Agency for
Research on Cancer, it raised a red flag for research to be done.
But they were talking about it only being high consumers. But I think probably
anywhere in the world that consumes the most diet coke right here in the good
old US of A. Yeah, they say if you go to Europe and
just eat the same stuff you're eating here, yeah, you'll lose like twenty
pounds over six months because they have rules were there where you can't put certain
crap of the food. Well, totally just passed a law where you cannot
have any lab grown food at all in the country of Italy. No lab
grown food because they want to celebrate their heritage of farmers and growing food from
the land and something they don't want. It taught the world how to eat
billy, it's right, so you don't have that. It's just certainly like
I went over there and ate my weight in pasta every day and came home
winging less shit. Yeah, because it's all natural. There's no preservatives a
bullshit in it, all right, mecanic pervatives. Stop? What have you
stopped eating? Is there anything you don't eat anymore because you found out like
it's just not that good or you don't feel is good when you eat it.
I don't drink anything that isn't water pretty much or tea, craffee.
You're just a pussy. I'll be cocktail once in a while, but I
don't drink any of that sugar. Still. I don't drink milk anymore.
Yeah, there's hormones and milk. I don't drink all the milk because I
found out that that could lead to migraines. I don't I'm serious. There's
a lot of additives that stuff. I did a whole video about all the
plant based milks and really basically what about the plant based meats us. It's
all clue, not necessary. It's meat. It's all meat glued. Look
at us. It's just it's not natural, you know what I mean.
It's not like it's not a better necessarily alternatives crap. Bill Gates is trying
to push on us. I'm not joking, but they want to they want
to create meat in the lab, and it's going to be disgusting. Yeah,
there's a lot of things I don't know. I did that a diet
that was I think designed for people on who had diabetes, right, and
so they had so I ate the FLDS five hundred calories a day all in
quake role four. Maybe it was seven hundred, seven hundred calories a day
for thirty days. And I lost, uh, forty pounds, you said,
I know, I was more like thirty pounds and forty days, That's
what it was. I lost thirty and forty So it was over forty days.
And I gotta tell you, like what Jesus went through in the desert
when the Devil's trying to tap lost thirty days, right, and he thanked
doctor man No. But this was so you wound up like you were eating
you could eat eggs, avocado, Uh, grass fed meat expensive yeah,
uh, salmon. Those are the things I ate. So then over over
time, I didn't feel like it was eating a lot. And it took
a couple of years, but I put like all the weight back on and
I was like, wow, but you felt so amazing. I slept better.
They have some It's not him a Laan salt. It's some kind of
pink salt that I should probably go back and get. It was the most
flavorable, flavorable stuff. No it's not, it is, but this stuff
was like a Hawaiian What wasn't the stuff that was making people like turn into
zombies? Right? No? This was. It tasted so good and you
I put it on like blueberries and almonds. It tasted like ice cream to
me. Yeah. And then I ate peanut butter one day with dipped it
in strawberries, and I felt like I was hung over the next day because
all the sugar and shit in there. And I go, God, damn,
we poison ourselves in this country and we don't know what sugar we think
we're eat and we're not eating healthy, and then we do all this stuff.
And now I've gotten to the point where I go, I don't know.
You know, you can be low carb and all that, you probably
should balance your carbs. I primarily just eat wraps now. I eat like
a breakfast wrap that I make at home. I ate a rap when you
came in here with hummus and turkey, and but I don't I even that
you wouldn't eat that on this diet because it because of the carbs and ship
and the sugar that are that the carbs are and we get fooled. But
if you kind of regulate everything and move your body, I think we'd be
way better. But god, damn, are we fatten this country? Look
around? Oh look for this well, elks and are our generation is gonna
be the first one to not outlive its parents. Yeah, what's true?
You didn't hear that? This is like a statistical Yeah, I believe that's
true. Like our we'll become the first generation that will not outlive its parents.
PERI. So I don't know. They were giving us basically dessert for
breakfast every morning, like crunch. Now, I wasn't allowed to have any
of that ship as a kid, I had puffed rice or eggs. That
was just my mother went and got no, no, there was no sugary
stuff. She would get one thing of cookies and it had like four sleeves
in this one pack. We'd eat that within an hour of a coming home
and that was it for two weeks. So you ate apples, you ate
like that was it. Milk came straight from the farm, prepasteurized and used
to scrape the cream right off the top. Were family. My grandmother was
a high rocks person like my dad's mom, and my mom's mom was oreos
oreos. She had everything chocolate chip, the soft bats, the hard baked,
every kind of chocolate like. I used to have a contest when I
would go see my mom's parents that she would greet everybody at the door and
she'd be pinching your cheeks and doing the whole grandma thing. I would try.
I would sneak in. I knew exactly where the cookie jar was was
right behind the side door, so everybody's waiting to get in. I'd hanging
in the back and I'd see how many cookies I could shove my face for.
Grandma kissed me as a kid, but we didn't have that in my
house. My other grandmother hidrocks, and then she used to send in the
labels and get hydrock socks. Oh yeah, yeahs my mother went into labor
wearing hydrock socks with my sister. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure.
I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure that I just learned that the Hi Drocks
cookie came first. A lot of people think like the oreo came first and
then Hidrocks is like the knockoff. But actually the Hydrocks cookie came first,
and then the Oreo just came along and did it better. Hidrocks were disgusting
Soreland. No one knows the origin of the why. They don't know why
it's called an oreo, Like there's no reason, no rhyme or reason for
it. I don't know why. Uh yeah, I don't know. I
don't know why we had high Drocks. Maybe because it was the original.
It could be just because like maybe that was like I understand you grew up
at like in a smaller town. Well no, but this was they were
New York and Brooklyn and New Jersey, and so maybe just like was not
available in there, like there's things that are not available in my grocery stores
living in on the upper west side of Manette. And then you guys can
get at wegmans. I can't get. We used to have a saying in
school high drocks tastes like clorox. I mean it had had that chemical taste
too. It was discussed. I don't remember. I love, but I
haven't had anyone. Here's what I take away from the World Health Organization and
NASPAR team. Just as long as you don't overdo anything, you're gonna be
fine. Your body is resilient, You're gonna it's gonna be able to do
stuff. Just trying to keep shit in moderation, keep everything in moderation.
I didn't do a lot of moderation on things, especially alcohol, during all
the bad Blue period or that, and then I mean even during COVID Man
COVID was bad for me at times. I don't think anybody did anything in
moderation during COVID. Well, it was hard. I tried to work out
and stuff and I kept I went down. But I know who's one of
my best buddies, Damien, And what does he own a bar? And
what did we do? We went in there and we just we so they'd
be working on the floors and I would get I would get so drunk that
I like, I wound up having to spend spend the night in some places
I was I mean I was a cop show up with the club. Hey,
Damien, now you will put her close, coming to clean up a
little, you know. No, everybody was No, it was like tight
right. It was just like people there, but you were working, cleaning,
they were doing you were doing stuff. But we were drinking. And
most of it was because it was gonna go bad. Well, can't get
rid of it. Some of the beer and stuff is gonna go bad.
But I mean there were times I was like I couldn't. I mean,
it was bad, and I remember going, what am I doing? What
am I doing with Then the next day yeah, I mean I did it
here in the beginning of the podcast stuff, and I would get I mean
there were times where I was like so hung over and I go and that's
the ship that I'm going. Nah, it's okay, just trying to keep
your ship in moderation. You know, when you see these old people.
I always love that guy drink and drank every day. Yeah, but he
probably wasn't eating processed cheese and whatever bullshit, whatever chemicals put into the dough
of whatever pizza you're shoving in your face and pop tarts and your He probably
had a physical job where he had he was like working his muscles all day
long. It could be yeah, he may have had to walk the walking
stuff and from work. That's the thing. It's like, well, you
know why, Like Europeans are probably in shape and they say the Mediterranean diece
supposed to be the best. But the walking, right, there's a lot
of walking, I'm do. You must do a lot of walking in manhattanns
all walking basically, you know, so that keeps you a little bit thinner,
a little healthier, keeps your blood going. And say, sitting as
a new smoking Bro's how you believe it that I see people sitting stuff like
that's why I see people sitting outside for their break. Hey, you know
I'm just taking a break. Well, man, I love I love when
I see people go get all shit shit all over Wegmans. I haven't been
there forever. In the comments, I don't even go anymore. I haven't
been to Wegmans. I'm going. I just went the other day and I
couldn't find a fucking parking spot. So thanks for nothing. Let's a yogi
barrel. What's said about Mickey Mantles restaurant. Hey, Yogi, you got
a Mantle's restaurant. All, No, nobody goes there anymore. It's two
crowded. Yeah right, it's the same thing. I go. I love
like, I mean people or people are just gonna sho on stuff all the
time. It doesn't mean it's bad. It's just I swear to God,
it's it's just like become the national pastime. It's just clean. They'll make
Instagram real complaining about Wegmans and the Wegman's produce section, like, oh,
I'm sure they It's like if somebody's eating something and they're like, oh this,
don't go to this restaurant. This thing is terrible. Yeah, I
don't. I don't understand all the all the complaints all the time, but
that's what it is. So no more Wegmans soldat Yeah you are. They
still going to do their sparkling water though, because they're sparkling water is awesome,
probably because it doesn't have the aspertainment in zero calories. Yeah yeah,
natural flavors. Yeah, yeah, there you go. There's sparkling water is
awesome. Really, it is awesome. I drink about like seventy cases of
it because we have Wegmans in Brooklyn and they'll deliver, so I drink.
So how much does it cost to get Wegmans into So who does the delivery?
Is it a third party? Yeah? So Instacart will deliver and they're
actually opening a Wegmans in Manhattan in October. End of October. I'm so
excited because it's much closer to me. So how much does it cost to
get shipped from Brooklyn? How long does it take? It depends you can
schedule the time. The thing that the reason that I don't use it is
because every time I go and put stuff in my cart, the stuff I
know they have on the shelf, the instat cart person always messages me and
is like they don't have this, they have this, and I happen to
know. I went there myself. I would find the self. So either
you don't want to look or whatever. But it's actually not that expensive.
It's like the delivery fees like eight dollars. It's completely worth it. We
don't even buy them indeed, but we have some Macup powder. Would you
like the Macup Power. I live on the fifth floor of a walk up
and they'll bring it all the way up the stairs. It's so lovely to
live a long time. Because I did the delivery for I paid and I
never use it now. Walmart, Yeah, yeah, you don't use it.
I don't. I paid for the Walmart free delivery for the year,
like up front, and I haven't been using Walmart. How many of those
services though? Do you do that with where you're like, oh, I'm
just gonna pay for the whole subscription. And then I did that with NEWM
and I finally canceled it because it wasn't working for me. What is now
You're gonna laugh at me, but I actually have I have a medical reason
why it didn't work. As for tame, No, the medication I was
on was was not conducive to new Anybody else could probably use it, but
yeah I couldn't because of the medication I was on. Well that the fact
that you shove about six donuts in your face, about five that was different
mylor budget today it was very low. Let me just say this in terms
of your color budget, and it was every donut you actually and I'm not
even donuts holes, I'm not or they hold or munchkins. I don't know
what they are. Okay, I like holes. Okay, if you actually
wrote down everything you ate, would you surprise yourself? No? At the
amount you eat. I could tell every single I could tell you what I
ate today, right, No, but sometimes there's mindless eating. Yeah.
I don't eat. No, I don't eat until like noon every day,
and my last meal is usually about six o'clock. Yeah, so it's working.
You know I've lost I've lost twelve pounds. There you go, that's
great. Yeah, what surprises me is that calories whenever I do, like
every once in a while, I'll especially after COVID when everybody was like thirty
pounds overweight, me especially. I started doing my fitness Pal, which is
basically like a food diary, and you just get it tracks your calories and
it's it's pretty comprehensive, like a lot of food is listed in there,
so she could pretty much eat anywhere and eat anything. I would be often
surprised at like how many calories. I wouldn't I feel like I wouldn't eat
that much, but the calories would be out of control. I'd be like,
well, that's there it is, you know what I mean. So
you kind of learned, like ever healthier pictures to yourself, like from from
like when I'm on When I was we were all doing the break room,
all three of us. I would go home at night, and I thought
I was doing myself a favor. I would only have three guinness at night.
It's like an extra thousand calories. Yeah, practically, you know somewhere
I think you're going two fifty, so call it. But by the time
you you got a few munchies in there, it's a shamrock shake, shut
up. Got to bed an extra three. But like I did it,
think it was nothing. And I remember seeing my face back then, I'm
like, oh my god, dude, whoa We tried to extra Remember like
when John h at the Downtown Fitness Center. I even know if they still
exist. He tried to get us all the media in a competition to try
to lose weight. So the break Room was one of those teams, right.
We were, Yeah, we're going to the final were going to the
final leg of the of the of the competition, and we had a chance
to win. You gained like six pounds and we lost. Damn it.
Rob that's Tommy, you guys, because Tommy wasn't part of it. I'm
gonna watch you fat guys, I can't contain. You're gonna lose, right,
So we go in and we lose to like you lost to our news.
Seriously, the weather lady half of hers on Channel eight. That was
Tommy's old joke choke. Yeah, she's so bad. It was so big,
yeah, genel ten whatever whatever. They were right between her left legs
on eight, her fat right cheeks on ten that it's terrible. All right,
we'll take a moment when we come back. Somebody who did something that
I wonder if just some people think this is heroic and bold. I think
it's kind of a very weak move. We'll get to that and we'll check
in with Kevin, who was dropping off his kid at college. We'll do
all that next. You're over the tears. I don't under over on the
tears. I'm gonna say, I don't know if they've left yet or not.
Okay, so that's where the tears start. Now. I did see
my college roommate and his wife dropping their youngest off at the University of Tampa,
and I could see the tears coming down mom's cheeks. Okay, Yeah,
Dad stayed out of the pictures, so I don't know. I took
the pictures. So I'm not sure because Keiv was all, yeah, whatever,
Yeah, I'm like, I don't believe he stopped that. In my
very limited interaction with Kevin, I could tell you that he's very proud of
his kids, and he loves his kids, and I could potentially see him
like, so, what are you gonna say? Cry? I'm gonna say
cry. He won't a minute, but I believe he cries. Yeah.
I think he gets. I think he gets a little dust, he gets.
Yeah, the vapors papers. All right, we'll find outboro. But
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Danny's high and after tam Danny's hild life Kido works. Yeah. The funniest
thing about this song is that nobody really there's a dispute on what the lyrics
are, Jim, really, is it I just got into town about an
hour ago? Or is it did a Little Down about an hour ago?
Now, Keano saw you and you did this too. When I played at
East Innfest with Deaglar's Bridge, we did this song and Keena goes, I
didn't realize the words were just got into town. I thought it was did
a little down. I go, I've heard it two different ways, so
I just did that version. But there's a dispute on what the lyrics are
because Morrison would play with the lyrics to make it sound what it was it
this? Or was it that? You'd have to guess? Mumbled half the
time. He's always high. Yeah, did you know he was dead and
buried before his parents found out he was dead? What he was? He
was in Enigma bro Probably all that aspartame that sort of right to his head,
a right to his head. I feel like people that go visit his
grave and stuff, I don't know, I think that's weird. Does anybody
else think that's weird? Oh? Yeah, well, is it anything weirder
than going to Graceland? And see? I don't That's what I feel like.
Some of that stuff is really strange. Like I was in I was
down by the World Trade Center the other day and I was walking around.
I was seeing like all these people taking pictures and some of their family,
and me personally, I think, like that stuff is strange, Like I
know a family that just went and visited Normandy and stuff and on the beach.
Yeah, I find that stuff. I don't know. Well, Normandy's
historic, right, and that was a yeah. So that so that one
I can almost see. But going to the grave of well, I think
I stopped because why where was I I wound up? Maybe it was I
down for a funeral and Bryan Jones's great Now it was Steinbrenner. Oh yeah,
yeah, you show me pictures of its Steinbrenner's crypt and I don't.
That's such not a me thing. But I forget why I was there.
Uh Tampa, right, Yeah, it's in Tampa. But why why would
I have been in a materian tamp must have been somebody had passed and then
we were down there and I went to, uh, that had to be
why judge, judge, make sure I got a close casket. I think
it's one thing if you like stumble upon it, but if you're like out
there seeking it out. I don't know. I just I think that's weird.
I think in that dimension, like so well, people will come for
Susan B. Anthony's grave here and then put the strikers on there. I
think it's strange. I think they're better off going to her house, you
know what I mean, she's the whole house. You can go to the
museum and like pay homage. Like going to a grave, like, I
don't know, that's just weird to me. It's weird going to like a
place where like like going to the nine to eleven when more like a bunch
of people died there is weird. It's so and you're you're out there taking
selfies or like making tech talks and stuff. I don't know if for me
it just feels that's, yeah, it's really weird. I don't know.
Jim Morrison's grave is actually pretty graffitied up too, like people leaving messages.
The messages and joints and all kinds of cigarettes and all kinds of weird stuff.
Freddie Mercury's house in London also a lot of graffiti on the wall of
the house. I get, how does that get when people go to like
Michael Jackson's house and Gary, Indiana and stuff like that. Stuff. I
understand, like that's where it all started and whatever. But of all the
places Joe beat him, but I don't know a place where, like a
place where a literal tragedy happened. That just as weird it is, it
is pretty strange. Yeah, Like I'm walking down the Vegas Striple like I
wonder where Tupac got shot. That thought went through my head. Yeah,
like they don't have it marked. They don't. It's not like, yeah,
it's not like Dealey Plaza assassination, right. That would be another one
that's like, I want to go see where this president got in the middle
of There's an old Bill Hicks bit where they have the entire like third floor
or the floor of the book depository behind glass because because any normable person who
would walk over there and see how it's set up to the window would say,
there's no fucking way. I don't know. Kevin is dropping his son
off at college and got on my cap a little. He wanted to,
uh, is this the son that brought him the dog? Yes? Yes,
yes, Hello? Did you leave the dog with your kid in college?
No, it was his dog. He took a fish. He took
a fish, but I thought the dog was his. Correct, the dog
is his, yes, so, but he won't miss the dog. Where
are you now? It sounds like you're in a dorm. No, we
were in a bar. Oh, okay, we're celebrating. It couldn't getting
off getting out of my house. Uh so, moving went well. At
Quinnipiac, Oh, moving was a cluster clock. Let's just say that.
Why. Uh well, we left the four in the morning just because we
wanted to get here. Got here about ten fifteen. Get up. The
check in was about a mile half down the road, a mile up the
mountain at the arena where they have the National Championships Hockey team play. Check
in there and they put you into staging area. We set the staging area
for about four and a half hours. Wow. Someboddy's dad or mom decided
it will be fun to put their truck into the side of one of the
dorms. Into the side of one of the dorms by by accident, I
assume a yeah, But how bad damaged the building? The building didn't look
damage with the truck. The whole friday it was total like they hit it
hard. That is the most expensive college drop off ever. Rightitions for that
is like dorm damage. I don't know a semester dorm damage bill like a
good neighbor. Yeah, remember they used to do that. I think at
Fisher somebody had squished banana into the rug and maintenance thought it was ship.
So they charged all of this on. They had this like a hashmat team
come in and clean the carpets and we're all like, it was fucking banana.
You could see the circle seeds in it. Yeah. Well, my
kids decided he wanted to go. We went out shopping, say, we
went and bought them just some stuff that we like, food and stuff that
we weren't going to bring with us. And so he decided that we had
to go to Colds because he had the ship. He had the ship in
the dorm. Yet does he share a bathroom. There is a shared bathroom,
it's a very large shared bathroom. And he wouldn't shit there. He
hasn't ship. Yeah, so I said he, Bro, it's gonna it's
gonna hurt if you're holding it till Thanksgiving? Bro, So is he gonna?
So? Does he have a fear of pooping? In public. I
don't know I did. I didn't form the rules of bombs Away, so
hopefully bombs Away. It was where I used to climb to the top of
the stalls and I used to get on top of the stall and take a
ship and see if we could get it in the toilet. What happens if
it misses, then he missed, he had to clean it up. But
you had to clean up. You had to try to clean it up,
but usually not be remnants on something. But yeah, we used to do
that. I did that, And there's a big locker room thing more or
less. Yeah. Well, then at one time they got mad in our
school because I guess people were smoking in the stalls, so they took the
doors off it, and then people didn't want to go to the bathroom in
there at all. So I used to just go, well, it doesn't
matter, and I and I climbed at the top. That was the safe
thing. We had to get. Aaron Thurston did the same thing. Climbed
to the top and I shipped from up there. And there was a tour
going through with these uh Sport Exchange students coming through Yea, and they're bringing
a bit for a cross country match, just the dumbest I did the dumbest,
dumbest things, But so did he always. I mean he's been around
hockey teams and stuff. What's the right He'll show He'll shower with the boys
in the locker room at Lake Shore, which is the dirtiest thing I've ever
seen in my entire your life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but who
knows, well who'll get you? So I'm gonna have to get over it.
Yes, And I'm sure there is a little bit of anxiety, right,
there's some anxiety, and that I can understand. I'm like, it's
college. You get a poop and buddy, you go, you have a
conversation. Is he nervous? Like is he nervous to be there? Is
like this is first time like being away from home in this way. Yeah,
it's just I don't think he's nervous. Well, we'll find out tomorrow
with the safety net leaves, because the safety net is still here until the
morning. Yeah, but we'll see. Mom has surprisedly been good. She
hasn't cried yet. Okay, I'm just gonna say no, no cheers.
Now, we're all betting that you at least get the vapors tomorrow. I
did not get vapors yet. I'm not saying yet I got I got a
little thing on my heart. My heart grew a little bit. I'm like
the Crunch when he hugged it out with his brothers at four o'clock in the
morning after they stayed home and with the with the relative. Yeah, I
got you, okay, Grandma and the dog. How many hours ride is
that? Five? Uh, it's a moost eleven and a half. Obviously
we stopped the map line to get gass though, but it's total six hours
drive. It wasn't too bad. I listen to your shitty show. Okay,
awesome, that's great. So six hours and we had a good show.
That's fun. Birthday show is great. I go, I go away
for two days. I see Alexson got to place all clasped up this white
linen. Well that was that was for. That was for a completely different
podcast called Games and that'll drop episode one September fourth. It's cleaned up now.
All the alcohol probably had this a Colg dormaner. We had to.
I had to gay the place up a little bit. You know, I
can't just you know, I can't have game night in here and not you
know, and have them sitting around that's you guys. Well somebody somebody said,
uh, somebody go, yeah, it's like being in you did,
It's like being in a man cave. And I go, it is.
I don't think it's like a man cave. This this is just me.
Well, see the thing is and I take it's barren in here. I
think I want to get more stuff, and I've just been focused on the
work, not the decoration. The premise of the show is two gay men
and two women. Yes, Like, in no universe would you go to
a gay man's house and find a Guinness mirror on wall, nor would you
find Genesee beer signed, like unless it was like the floral version, like
the ruby Kolsch. That's true, that's true. Okay, all right,
I guess that. Yeah, so she did. She did? Yeah,
I mean billifide is fine because you know that's a little gay. Well it's
a big flamer, big flame back there. Uh so, Kevin, this
is exciting. I kind of like knowing that the kid won't shit there.
I No, I like knowing that shy ball syndrome because I'll tell you,
like now, I did community college then went to Fisher, but they had
My first year was Murphy Hall across the street, right, and I remember
there was the bathroom at the end of the hall and I was all the
way at the other end, and you used to have to go and shower
and stuff. And I would go a shower down there, and sometimes buckets
of cold water would come over the wall and the shower while you were in
there. And then he's got a decent truck to the bathroom. I mean
it sits down the hall and around the corner. And yeah, he's furry
dogging by, like by Halloween. He's in trouble. I went, I
went, and just I didn't care, I let at all. I didn't
either. Yeah, he did it. He did announce in the middle of
Coles and he did destroy their bathroom. So I mean, I don't know.
Maybe you can go at Coles, you can go it go. But
maybe he's trying to like set a good first impressions. He doesn't want to
be the one who recks the bathroom. And like negative he said, people
are left loaders. It was the first night. People are about the loaders.
Oh yeah, like I mean, and were they already drinking and stuff
on campus or no, I know nothing. Okay, No he's no,
he's a pot smoker. No, not even that is his lady friends,
all right? Okay? Is his lady friend with him to say goodbye?
Or no, his lady's friends did say goodbye. She moved into her dorm
today, and I know they talked. Where's she going to school? She's
going to Roberts. Okay, okay, she married. I didn't inform him.
I didn't inform him. Ring by Spring. Ring by Springs was not
an option for him either. That. Don't worry about it. It's fine.
I got a kid of Roberts. Nothing, No, ring by Spring.
He's not getting married. There's nobody called up for yourself. No,
that's Jackson. Oh that's right. That's right, that Jackson. Jordan's the
one who goes there. Uh. Well good, I'm glad. It sounds
like things went well. You didn't hit the dorm, you were able to
get the kid in. It was what floor is he on? First floor?
Right next to the arra. That's uh, that sucks, but for
moving purposes, at least first floor. How many how many floors is the
dorm? I think the floor there's three floors. Girls are on the third,
and I think it's the boys on the first two. Okay, but
like the door that we pulled, we once we finally get able to go
down to the campus, we pulled in between the two cars we had.
I think the cars was less than a minute and a half. They had
so many people. They're just grabbing stuff out of your car and oh that's
great. So they yeah, they get yeah, but that it was just
well, that's gonna be interesting to mob. All right, Well, I
hope I'm betting you get vapors at the very least some vapes. Oh yeah,
buddy, or at least to a poll, because it's quite a peg.
They I did say. I tinted to take a picture for you the
end of the building, just so you can see. All right, very
good, All right, well, Kevin, drive carefully back, and we're
still betting that there will be uh if not tears from you vapes, there
will be nothing. I'm a good boy. Okay, all right, and
Alexa, we'll text to you about tomorrow. Perfect. Aw, allright,
there you go. Kevin's got an idea. Thanks Kevin, He's got an
idea for a show he's been he does. Yeah, it's actually I think
it's a great idea. Yeah, it is actually a great idea, and
it's something that isn't already being done. And I like, once I find
out who the major players are, I will know more. But yeah,
we'll see you know right now, Like the no idea, no idea is
really a bad idea until you figure out if a podcast or reality a reality
shall show. Yeah, well I could even potentially be like something for YouTube.
It really depends. Oh I have a failure. I know what he's
doing. Yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, you know what it is.
Yeah, this actually is a pretty good idea. It's not a bad
idea a sense, and nobody's done it yet, right, man, did
you have any guys and did you remember it school that couldn't go to the
bathroom or anything or no, But I had a dad who had that problem.
Your dad couldn't go. So my dad would always show up the party
separately. We went to people's houses. He'd have to drive himself. We
can never figure out why, because he wouldn't. Years after he died.
He died a colon cancer years after demo. Yeah, right, he had
a problem going to other people. He had to go to the number two
and he had a problem going to the people's bathroom, so he'd drive home
and once he's home, he's home. I understand that I can see in
at a private party a lot of times, Like I even remember as a
kid not wanting to go in school and then something then something changed where it
didn't matter better. Oh, I was shipping anywhere my ass is how I
was, you know. I think I think we bet some kid and cheered
him on to ship in the urinal, which is terrible, just terrible.
I mean, it was just it was nat Oh God, And I told
you I would pee in sinks. Oh it's like a Bill's game. Yeah,
I did. I I busted in on the party once because I had
to go to the bathroom so badly, and I knew I wasn't gonna make
it outside, and I just busted. And the girl was on the toilet
and she screams, I don't worry about it, and I just beat in
the singh she's in there. Just you gotta do what you gotta do.
I don't remember having any like I used to. I told you when I
had the dorm, I used to take a ship in my we had our
own bathroom in Uh what was that you said, Murphy Home? No,
no, no, no, what's the one my senior year ward? It
was Dorsey Dorsey So Dorsey had you had your own bathroom in your room?
Yes, yeah, yes, she had your own bathroom in there for you
and your roommate. Was it was very nice. It was like living in
a little country club Fisher. Yeah. I had the great meal plan.
They had a little golf course across the really was it was? It was
sweet when I when I went there was the shortest it was the shortest school
year in the country. And everybody was friendly. Yeah, everybody got along.
So drugs, no, no, there was something maybe yeah that was
yeah, no, yeah, right exactly, yep. A lot of a
lot of boozers like me and I used to shit and I would open up
all the doors, the door to the bathroom. I used to ship with
the door open and the door to the hallway open to see how far I
could get the smell to travel down them. That was one. Then,
uh, there were bets because the girls were upstairs. So it's like every
other floor. I think they did every other floor, but it wasn't.
It was weird in that one because you had that main lobby, and it
was kind of on like a almost like I want to say, like an
l sort of sort of. So you would one side was the girl,
so it will be first floor. Uh, closest to the campus was the
guy. Then he went upstairs. Closest upstairs was girls right above girls on
top, and then on the other side it was girls on the bottom east.
Yes, So if you lost some kind of bet, you could only
wear one article of clothing and you had to go upstairs and bang on every
girl's door as you ran down. That was it. You had purpose.
Sometimes so the only thing I would wear was a sock right over my I
just wore a sock over my junk, and everybody would laugh and I would
run down and you would see my ass out there. And sometimes on certain
girls, I would stop, I would knock on the door and I'd be
bent over. So when they opened it up. You know how much trouble
you would get in today if you did that and she complained. Do you
know how much fucking trouble? Oh my god, Oh my god, I
just thought of that. Nobody is doing, like do you think that all
of that juvenile behavior has gone right out the window? But I don't.
I don't. Well, first of all, I don't think that people I
know. I will say that I think I had a little bit of a
unique thing. I didn't know many people when like, I had a weird
group of friends. You know what I mean. I had a weird group
of friends. It wouldn't be uncommon for all of a sudden somebody to pop
up and put their dick in your ear, like at a party or something,
hang bringing on your head and take a picture while you're sleeping. No,
yeah, but no, they'd hang bring on your head. This is
high school. Oh no, no, That's what I'm talking about. So
that's where I came from. So when I went to Fisher, it was
mild, Like these guys were fairly mild for the most part. And it
was more like no one was doing bossed away. No one had ever heard
like that. It's funny you mentioned that no one was picking up chushions sniffing.
I'm like me. I had a friend who went to Kent State,
right, and a lot of the stuff in my high school. I went
to a small high school, like you did, Stupid stuff like that would
happen all the time. We talk about like things that you talk about,
you know, on the radio, right, And she went to Kent State
and she said that that stuff was taboo among guys, like you talk about
masturbation. Yeah, you guys, we would never do like in the Midwest
they would never do that. Well, I don't know that we I don't
think guys talked about that. I don't remember having those conversations with guys and
fishure masturbation. Do you did, Oh yeah you had a circle jerk.
No, no, no, we never had that. I'm just saying like
the guy would just be so open, giving each other handies on it.
No, just like talking about all the stupid stuff that you know, teenagers
do. Yeah, I don't remember talking about that kind of stuff. But
the stupid stiffing we did was like all of a sudden or the big one
was hanging brain where you would just let it hang out, your fly,
just walk around fully dressed and the only but with your balls hanging out,
just your balls digby pop is hidden away and then you'd walk around with your
balls out until someone looked him. Oh my god. Yeah, like the
stuff stuff like that. And she was like, no, they would they
It's like in the Midwest they never was like for boating. They didn't talk
about if they did it. They never talked about Okay, do your boys
have any like kind of anxieties like that? Don did any of them even
as like little kids, do they like have issues in school coming home with
stomach aches and stuff? Because I couldn't. Father here has no idea,
Well, that happened in high school. I don't remember at all. I
don't remember that. I don't even know now, like with my kid at
college, I have no idea. I don't think that there's a lot of
shenanigans that he does at all. I think in the beginning there might have
been some things, but most of it's fairly mild. I don't know.
Do you think you would know just based on like the shit you used to
pull as a kid, Do you think you would have some kind of sensibility,
like my kid is out here doing like so I remember thinking there,
yeah, they just I don't know. I remember thinking that they were lame,
and I was very glad that they were lame. Like I remember thinking,
oh God, this is great because there was no real problems in high
school, and there were minor things that went on, and I didn't have
I didn't really have much involvement in the handling of them. One was one
where he got in trouble and the school intervened and said, we're going to
handle it, and I said to his mom, he's not in trouble at
home, and that was it, and it was an equate thing. And
then there was times where she went up picking them up, I think after
a party or something. But other than that, there wasn't a whole lot
of stuff that I remember that was necessarily bad. And there were no late
nights, There were very few sleepovers and all like I would be camping out
at my buddy's house every other weekend and getting drunk, and I mean,
I mean I was shuking in the woods. Would you let your kids do
the kind of stuff you know that you were doing, Like, would you?
I don't know, because I feel like I have friends that have kids
that like, we were out, you know, all night long. There's
no way to get a hold of us. There was no cell phones.
Stuff. I would never let Louis, you know, be in a place
where I couldn't get a hold of him or knew exactly where. Well,
the bad part now, the bad part now, and the reason I think
that I would be the answer is when my guys were coming up, I
probably would have been a little more like, go ahead, I'm a big
I was always a believer in skin your knee kind of thing and figured it
out right. You learn or rules of the playground, right, so that
that sort of thing. If somebody's given you a rough time, you learn
your packing order, or you learn how to defend yourself. Not a very
popular opinion these days, not a very popular way to do it. The
other thing that would always make me take pause, though, is everybody And
it was more from probably junior middle school, I think now on I was
gonna call it junior high. That's a whole I am. They've got a
camera in their pocket, so shit got documented that you didn't necessarily want documented,
right, and or you documented it thinking it would be funny. Don't
don't think that My buddies and I wouldn't have like laughter or asses off.
Hey, watch this, like when we took the bottoms off my buddy's crutches
who had broken his leg, and he stood up and they'll crutches shot out
from under him. But I was feeling bad, so I stood up and
caught him like this, But if we filmed that, we would have laughed
our dick off, rewounded, watched again, watched it again, watched again,
or sent it out. Imagine that as a TikTok. I think that
if that kind of shit was involved, like with my kids, I wouldn't
want them, because you become labeled and other parents don't want you around,
and that, you know what I'm saying, Like most of our stuff was
so underground, Like I always say when I look back, when I look
back and I hear people, and I know people get upset with the word
privileged. Yeah okay, and I always go but I get it, I
get exactly what that is. I don't know. I have always been and
I knew this early on in my life that I could pretty much get away
with anything. I knew that I looked a certain way I had. My
parents were of what they you know what they were, They they were teachers.
I was never that bad. I could speak well, I could present
myself well. I could get away with fucking anything. And I kind of
knew that for the most part. And I feel like that my entire life
has kind of been pretty nice. There's been bumps, sure, but even
even the times where I've I've hit even recent like you kind of hit a
you hit a wall, I've been able to bounce back pretty quickly. And
I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that, well,
one is, it's who you are, right, There's nothing that ever
stopped me if I wanted to do it. If it was shipping off the
top of something, I was going to do it. If it was you
know, whatever, it was gonna happen. But so I think, like
I've always been a three. But you know what I'm saying, Like I
felt like I could always get I could always get away. I just think
that had that stuff been documented though, it would have been bad. Now
I had a reputation around town of being a kid who partied. I was
voted most likely to be found, like they said in ten years, right,
and they had the list of in ten years, where will they be?
And I was voted most likely to still be looking for a party,
which was still a little bit. My dad was like fucking livid, look
at David, all right, But then the police came to my house state
trooper because there was a party. I was not at the party, but
there was property damage done because a lot of people had weekend homes from you
know, New York that would come up and kids knew that they weren't around,
so they partied on their property. I think a window or something got
broken and they wanted a list of names. And they came to me and
I go, I'm not I wasn't at the party, and they're like,
yeah, we know, but we also know that you know everybody who was
at that party. And I didn't give up anybody. And it became a
whole ordeal. But uh, because snitches get stitches. Well, it wasn't
even that. It was. My father was like, was so pissed at
the police. And the guy comes into the house and he goes, hey,
Bill, let me ask you. My father goes his name is William,
and you will address him as William. I like your dad. Like
She's like, so that was that you have to answer. And then and
then when they left, he goes, you know why they came to find
you, right, because you've got a rebue check in apartment. And then
I and then when I remember dating a girl taking around on a date and
her father. I go to pick her up and I get out of the
car and she comes running out like the house was two tiered. He's up
on the top deck. She comes blitzing, like fucking blitzing out like she's
a cornerback coming in on a on a blitz and she's like, let's go,
let's go, and I get out. And then I see her her
dad and I say, mister Soda goes, hey, how you doing h
And she's already in the car. She belt on, She's like, let's
go. I go all right, and then he goes, I can trust
you, right, And I said yeah. He goes, I've heard about
you. I can trust you about as far as I could throw you.
And I'm like, ah, now, I see you wanted to get the
fuck out it. So obviously there was something said prior right because she went,
I mean, this girl blitzed out of the house and into the shipbox.
I was driving, so I didn't need, I guess, the documentation
to have it. But if there was video of the ship I did,
I think it would have been way worse. Yeah, how about you,
Like, do you are you glad that? Like we grew up in a
time before there was cell phones everywhere and there was photos of like everything you
did. Are you glad that there's no documentation. Yeah, I mean I
really didn't. This gonna sound so pretentious, but I really didn't do anything
wrong. I was together to sound pretentious. No, it sounds fucking lame.
Yeah it was, did you. I was the big brother in school?
Okay, so the story about me was the exact opposite of you.
So here's what happened. So around eleventh, quick, quick gat Christian Dan
to come with you. He'll keep everybody saying, well, here's what have
the fear of? Butch though, Oh yes, I had the fear of
God, the fear of my father. I had the fear of my dad
too. Yeah I did, didn't. I didn't fear anything. It was
like, right, So there you go. Here's my thing. And I
tried to tell my kids this now. And I'm sorry to interrupt your story,
but tell them the first time, tell everybody what they want to hear,
and then go do what the fuck you're gonna do anyway. Oh right,
you want your kids to tell you what you wanted to hear, and
them that go do whatever it like. But I tell them now now that
they're older, I mean there's sometimes I go, look, man, you
can you get frustrated. If I say things, just listen and then go
do what you're gonna do. I'm not not not saying to answer, but
listen and take it in. And you've already got an idea of what you're
gonna do. We'll do it or pause and consider what's being said. But
I'm not at this point. You know, you're in your twenties. You
got to figure that shit out. But that was my whole thing, always
was. I would like my mother used to always go, you know,
the boys were so easy, and then I realized they would just tell me
what I wanted to hear and go do what they wanted to do. She
goes At least with my daughter, she would fight me on everything, but
I knew exactly what was happening. She goes Billy especially, I had no
idea. Right with me, it was I didn't drink, it, didn't
smoke, still have never smoked, and didn't do anything. And my father,
after a while, my grandmother would tell him, you know, you
got a great kid here. He's not like you. My father was like
the guy who always had to take the dare in high school, right,
And so my grandmother finally told me he got a good kid here, He's
not gonna do anything. So my father goes, you know, you don't
need to have a curfew. I trust you, just be careful. Right,
Well, word got around that Dan Burrello doesn't have a curfew now,
so now Dan Burrello could drive us everywhere and he'll always be sober. So
guess where we're going? And Ferdonia isn't far away. And because I grew
up in Silver Cricket, if you know anything about Ferdonia, there's more bars
per square mile than maybe any other village in the country. And oh,
by the way, there are some of those bars that are eighteen and over.
So to get a fake ID, it doesn't take much. I guess
who is everybody's taxi cab? And we're got around to the parents that kids
are like, are you going out tonight? I'm going out with Dan Barrello,
a great kid. Yeah, have fun. I'm like, well,
how did I take out one hundred and fifty kids this weekend? I mean,
that's what it came down to. It was like, well, I
already was with you the beginnings of your uber career. Yeah, pretty much
pretty much, That's what That's what it was. But then like we had
so many d not d w Y, we had so many kids dying and
drunk driving accidents. Is that why you drove them? Because you are just
well. It was not that I was this great driver, I just was
sober. Did you but did you want to go hang out? Did you
go hang out? So oh yeah, oh yeah, I hung out sober
and nobody had any issues with it. They loved it. Not that they
would have issues with it, but did you because I literally can I had
known well, so I would not I would not like that. I had
no interest in drinking or nothing. I had no interest in it, and
you were still having a good time. So it's like college. College.
It wasn't so easy college. It got a lot harder because it was like
you were you were square. If you didn't if you didn't drink, you
know, we'll let you drive us around, you can hang out with us.
But I think by the time I got to fish here, like a
lot of that ship was out of my system. Like well, I mean
I party and drink, but I didn't get high. I didn't do any
of that stuff. I had done enough of that prior. And then I
think that some of the kids in my class. We had a lot of
people that died over the years too from accidents, but alcohol related. And
then there was a bad one that involved one of my good friends brother,
and he was pretty messed up. He had, I think had a scholarship
to OURPI and he went up losing that and coming home because he couldn't go
to school. We gotten a really bad alcohol related accident, and because of
that, somebody would always stay sober, but usually wasn't me, you know,
so that that was the thing, or we'd stay over somewhere and that
was the other thing. That's all. I don't know. I'm glad that
my kids were a little I say lame, but I think that most parents
were a little more on top of things, and the fact that there was
so much social media stuff you just didn't want to really step out of line
because it was almost like another way of tracking your ship. And most kids
telling themselves it's funny, funny, it's funny here saying that because I never
told anybody this. I don't even think I told my sibyl exists, because
I think they get jealous. But my father once told me before I graduated,
he goes, you know, you deal with a lot, and you
can you have overcome so much temptation. He goes, I want to tell
you something. I was the exact opposite of us in high school. I
always had to be the guy to do to do it, to take the
dare. Yeah, Danny boy, He goes, you're my hero, and
I mean that. I'm like, that's really no big, It goes,
No, it really is, because you have to deal with ten times more
than I had to deal with back then, with peer pressure and everything else,
and all these kids dying, and he goes, you're you're my hero.
I'm like, well, thanks, dad, you should your boys have
it tougher than you did. I mean because I feel like nowadays you can't
you cannot party, you cannot go take a chance. So they're putting all
kinds of shit and everything, and you can die. There's a couple of
grains. You can't go to the club anymore and do a bump in the
bathroom and like have a good time with your press on. Alex mean like,
I just mean, like you can you can't even like they're putting fentyl
in your weed now, you know what I mean? Do you do you
feel like kids have it like is it worse. Back in the day,
we had no supervision, so there was drinking, and you know what I
mean, we were we didn't have Chinese trying to kill us either. Nowadays
we have, like there's all these other things. Do you think it's like
better or worse? Is it the same? I worry a lot about Lewis,
you know what I mean, not that he's out there. You don't
do it bumps in the bathroom, but like you can't you can't party in
the same way you used to be able to. I feel like I don't
think I think about it a whole lot. Uh So that's part of Maybe
that's me putting my head in the sand. I don't know. And I
always think that I was glad that you know, one guy still lives at
home and the other one is on an athletic scholarship. So and there's been
things along the way that have happened, but nothing that would be two outrageous
or two out of bounds. And uh, I don't know. I think
that those I think there was always the same stuff. I wonder if now
you've got a better opportunity of someone being able to maybe a little more awareness
or the fact that there are cameras everywhere. You almost can find out if
something bad happened. So I don't know. I mean, I feel like
most of our fears on everything, everything are so over, I want to
say, overexaggerated. Now I've been accused of being like way to calm on
certain situations, but I think that sometimes it's no different. It's just that
you're a little more aware. Now. The fentanyl thing is an absolute truth.
But I would hope that they'd be wise enough to kind of not do
any of that kind of ship. But again, you know, it all
takes this one thing and you're right, be at a party and hate try
this and something could happen. So I don't know. I mean, look,
I certainly did some really dumb things, and I remember an incident where
you know, you're kind of like, oh, glad we survived that,
you know what I mean, because there were just dumb things that went on,
and you know, I'd be very afraid if I thought the boys were
doing something like that. Yeah, I just I'm always curious, but I
never were. I never think about it because I figure I survived, they'll
probably five two. And I feel like there's you can only get so many
lectures. I don't know, and eventually you have to just yeah, a
little bit, a little bit, We'll take one more short break, come
back, and then we'll wrap it up. But I want to run this
one scenario by both of you and just see where you stand on them.
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late great Tina. Yeah, and I'm bummed because that last segment we did
and Alex asked some great questions about you know, kids and what do you
worry about. I don't think I have no video of it. You must
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hair do she had. But you know what I always loved about Tina Turner,
like in her late forties, she has to come back. Yeah for
a woman amazing right in the eighties, Yeah, tougher, her hair was
everything. Not a fan dan, Oh No, I'm just appreciate it what
you're saying. Yeah, I mean I got out the ad there's she's You're
absolutely right. Uh So there's a story that I saw in the New York
Post and I would play the audio of this, but the guy is speaking
Italian, so I would assume, Yeah, I don't think anybody would understand
what was being said. But he's a millionaire banker and he was having an
engagement party with his fiance. He is sixty four, she's forty seven.
Okay, so nothing outrageous, right, I mean we're not talking to like
sixty four with twenty three. Yeah, you know something like that. We're
talking like November August. His name is Massimo sergre Oh. Yes, Massimo
took the microphone in front of one hundred and fifty high society guests at the
engagement event Billy and he in front of his bride. Her name is Christina,
she's forty seven. He said he refused to be a cuckold. Well,
she supposedly embarked on a clandestine affair. And he says this, and
she's standing right next to him. He walks up, there's a DJ.
He's got the microphone in his hand, and he says, I want to
give Christina the freedom to love, specifically to love another person, a notable
lawyer who she clearly cares about more than me. He says this in front
of everybody at the engagement party, and then he said, dear Christina.
He turned her and looked at her and said, I know how much you
are in love with him mentally and sexually. I know that before him,
you had a relationship with an industrial acquaintance, an industrialist acquaintance. I don't
know, there's some kind of something lost in the translation there, But don't
think it pleases me to look like a cuckold in front of all of you.
And that's what he says. And he said, Christina is so good
at telling her truth that I couldn't leave her alone to narrate the reason why
I'm ending our life together tonight. It's a banal story of fidelity, even
pre marital. I am so disappointed. I am heartbroken. And then he
puts the mic down and walks away, and he does this in front of
everybody. Mama, miya, mom Ama. Is that guy or is that
guy a hero? Or a zero zero zero? Oh? I don't think
so. You don't know. Because the roles were reversed and a woman was
standing up at her engagement party and being like, I know you cheated on
me, even zone like she would be hailed a hero among her but I
feel like because it's a man doing it, like no, yes, I
don't know, okay that that may be true. On the flip side,
I would call her zero too. She like, you don't need to air
your laundry in publicly but embarrass somebody like that. Yeah, but I'd love
it. I mean, I give a popcorn out and start eating. I
would feel bad for the guy, like I'd be super uncomfortable. But if
she did it to him, I don't know why. I'm way more comfortable
with that than I am with him doing it to her. And why is
that? Because my thing is with you? I goes zero. I'm like,
this to me is kind of a weak move as a man. Quietly
go to her and just say we're not having this. I'm not going to
embarrass you. I'm not going to say all this stuff, but I'm not
going to be this person. I'm worthy of way more than this in life,
and I have tried to provide. I thought I loved you, know
I thought you loved me as much as I loved you. Clearly that's not
the case, and I don't want you to be in a situation that's not
gonna make it happy. But I'm not gonna embarrass you. I think to
almost tear somebody down and ruin. Now she's suing for defamation of character,
and you know, pain and suffering or emotional pain and suffer because this guy's
got money and I'm sure he hired enough pis to figure this out all of
his eyes. Well he names like a lawyer, I mean, all this
shit. So, but I think if it were a woman, that's interesting.
I hadn't thought of the roles being reversed that I almost go, I
would laugh and not think twice about it. But to your point, Danny,
that's pretty sexist of me when you think about it, because I go,
if it's a guy, I'm like, I almost think you're someone of
a dick, not even like I feel bad and I'm embarrassed, and I
don't want to see it, like it makes me so uncomfortable, I can't
look at it. That's one. But the other thing is like, oh,
you're kind of a dick, dude, it's a woman. Let's yeah,
all right, so shit didn't work out, you know, be a
man, be a gentleman, let's walk away. That would be my thing.
Like if it were my kids that somebody and they did that and engagement,
Hey, I know you cheating, I'd be like, get the fun.
No, no, no, that's not how we do this. Now.
If if a girl stood up and said it about one of my kids,
like, I know you cheated, I'm not marrying you. I'd be
like, that's my boy. I know. I wouldn't know. I wouldn't.
I would be uh, there's just i'd be uncomfortable and I feel a
little bit bad. But I would be like, well, you had it
coming. Well you know what I mean. We wish, but we wouldn't
do that. Like either way, whether it's the man cheating on the woman
or the woman cheating on the man, that's bad behavior. We're okay calling
out a man for his bad behavior, but we're not okay calling out a
woman for hers. And I just think like even in today's society, women
are paid us and men, women and men blah blah blah, like we
were at the end of the day, we're all still human beings. And
if you're if you're having bad behavior, you should be called out of the
bad Maybe a public place is a bad place to do it for They saying
on either side, on either side, on either side, it's the same
thing because all you're doing is you're making a show. You're making a spect,
right, But we would celebrate her and she stood up and was like,
you are cheating on me with your secretary. We would all every woman
everybody every Yeah, I could see that. I think it's I wouldn't my
buddy. I would be sitting there like shit, and then I would wait,
you know, I call him up later on and go, how you
doing, Poe? Right? Are you with your secretary? Because now you
have all these high society people who are your peers, now man, witnessing
this and they and don't tell me, they're all walking away going at a
boy. You're dude, you are a cook, you are a fool.
We'll see because you allowed this to happen. Here's the sex is part of
me. You knew what was going on. Yeah, and why didn't you
just end it to me? You sort of look weak that you admit to
everybody all this stuff, and I would rather. I'm almost too proud to
say, well, I'm not going to put up with this, but I'm
not gonna. But I also wouldn't want to be the person to destroy you.
If I truly, if you truly love that other person, you can
be as mad as hell. I always love the term unconditional love. That's
my favorite, because I don't think human beings are capable of it. How
can you be? Because I think everything that we well how can you there?
There are conditions, right? How can you disclike everything's got right?
Everything comes to the conditions. Everything in the human experience comes with the condition.
Unconditional love means I just love you no matter what, no matter what
you do. I get mad at you, but I love you. I
think unconditional love exists, but I don't think unconditional like exists. And that
sounds really weird. But I mean, you may still love somebody who is
split up with a long time ago because you couldn't deal with them as a
person. You may still love them unconditionally, and if they needed a kidney,
you'd be there for them or you'd help them out. But you can't
be in a relationship with them. You can't trust them, you know what
I'm saying. But there's something that still pulls you to loving them. Does
that make sense? I think that I think that that that could be the
case. But I mean there's some people, like here's a great example.
I think Christie Brinkley still loves Billy Joel. I think Billy Joel still loves
Christie Brinkley, but she couldn't be in that marriage because he just he couldn't
like possibly stay sober enough and he's getting an accidents. And when he got
an accents after like they split up, she was like right there for him,
but they couldn't be together. It just didn't work. You know.
I think that you can unconditionally love somebody but not be able to be with
somebody. I think that could happen more in my next book called Coping with
Danny. I see that. To me, unconditional love would be I'll be
there for you no no matter what, in the good times, in the
bad, but all that. That's why I say, because those are conditions.
These are conditions by which I can't love you enough to be with you.
I can't. I can be there for you, but I can't be
with you. So that you almost seem to sort of I know what you're
saying, that the love is there and I'll come as a friend and try
to support and bring you back. I mean, yeah, Rick ocasick with
the you know when when he was dying, Pauline, it came over and
she's the one that found him and she had a key to his apartment and
all this stuff, but they couldn't be together. I have Valerie Berton Nelly
with Eddie man Halen. They were there holding it. He was remarried,
and there's Valerie holding his hand with wolf Gang when he died. Yeah,
but and they and they had something together with the kid, and you know
all that. I can understand that, But I still think there are conditions
around that kind of love. There are conditions by which I love you.
I love you now that it's coming to an end, But I didn't love
all this other shit. That's why I say I don't know that unconditional love
is capable for humans. I'm not saying it doesn't exist. I think it
could. But and is itn't okay to have conditions like we're we're so sensitive
as a society, like where we're we can't have limitations to anything, or
you can't be Like even when you were saying earlier about privilege, like people
think privilege is a bad thing. The people who think privilege is a bad
word, like are privileged and don't understand the context of It's not a negative.
It's actually a beautiful thing to be privileged. You are in a position
to help the unprivileged or underprivileged, you know what I mean. On the
flip side, privileges can be taken away. Yes, they're not rights.
No. No, those who want to white privilege white people get away with
anything. That's all right, you're making that's like a park tide. That's
not a privilege. That's like, hey, we get to do whatever the
heck we want. Oh, I'm just saying I feel like I got away
with a lot because I was waiting, well I do. I do feel
like pep who can recognize that that is a privilege, Like that doesn't make
you a bad person. It just is a condition of your environment. I
mean, like Danny, I always could be taken away, like like you,
you get away with it all you want until you don't go Yeah.
Sure, But I mean, like which is gone. Well, think about
like the oak Kill experience that we had. We want up and I said
to you just be cool because for a certain point, until someone really realized
that, hey, these guys weren't a part of our intimate group. I
had like six monzollati. But I mean, but that's fine. But my
point is, like we got away with it because you can get away with
it. I was just talking to a friend of mine who went down to
Watkins, Glenn and they said, uh, yeah, we just walked in.
We put lanyards under our shirt, but my lanyard was not a walkins
Glenn lanyard. And we were in the pit, act like you've been there.
Don't be there to cause trouble. That's not what you're there. We're
just go and enjoy it. No, but but it's but it was white
me well, and I don't know if you were of a different shade of
any shade of brown. I don't know if I can't answer that because I
don't know. I've never been, so I can't say. But I can
tell you this I've said to you all the time when we remember when there
be guys who wrote books about I snuck into the super Bowl seven times,
and I went into whatever concert, and I go, yeah, I can
see how that can happen. And by the way, every one of those
guys were white. That's all. That's all. And maybe maybe, I
don't know, maybe in different countries something else would happen on Pretty girl privilege
is a thing. Hot girl privilege is always a thing. Oh yeah,
god, damn, you know what I love. There's athletic privilege, yeah,
but it's hot girl privilege. You have a hot girl privilege. Is
my favorite. How girl privilege is my favorite because there's a shelf life on
hot girl privilege, that's true, and then all of a sudden, hot
girl privilege starts to fade away, and hot girl just isn't getting the attention
anymore. She may be attractive for her age, she may be in great
shape for her age and all that, but she's not getting what she's used
to. Where it used to be, she could go out every night of
the week and not pay for anything, right, and now all of a
sudden it's not there or it's slipped away, and now you start to see
him like overcome that. Tawny Kitten was a classic example to me of how
girl privilege hot From the time she was fourteen years old, every door opened
because you were hot all the way up to you weren't and now you're beaten
dude, and we become the clean of the silver dollars. Well, it's
like you know all those Yeah, that's exactly that's the song, right,
she's lost it. Yeah, she ain't the same, but she wants to
pretend she is. Yeah. Well, and there's just enough guys who will
play along with Sure, there is because you know, hey, I got
a shot now he went on the discount rack. I mean, it's amazing.
Well you and I are, we're all well, we're all at the
age now where we know people whom from high school who during high school wouldn't
have the girl, wouldn't have given the guy at the time of day.
Then life moves on, girls starts losing her looks or guy starts making money,
and all of a sudden, hey, look who's together, and you're
like, this would never have happened in high school, right, And sometimes
I think too though, as you get older, you start to get beyond
the looks of stuff. This is where I I have this theory, and
it's just a theory on the dating apps stuff, because I always figured the
dating apps are really in favor of women because the women, especially the ones
where women get to you got to respond first, right, But most guys
that are going to swipe on and all of them are going for probably that
same group of guys, right, the same group of guys that are hot
are usually hot to like every chick that's on this app, so they're all
trying to get to that guy. Basically, if I feel so, if
you've got that, then you're not you're going on superficial and then you go
out on the date and it doesn't work, and you wonder why where if
you're just out in the wild and all of a sudden you had a conversation
with somebody and maybe you would have swiped past them on a dating app,
but you find out that they're funny and they really value family, which are
the same values that you have, and you start to have a conversation,
and all of a sudden, like you find yourself three hours have gone by,
You're like, holy shit, I've had a great night with this person.
And it's not really a date, but it's conversation. And then that
to me, is more authentic and real than the dating apps, which is
everything superficial and almost like hot girl privilege, right, you can't. And
I think that same thing with high school, like all of us were superficial
if she was the hot chick. Once you get to know somebody, if
you can get below the surface, sometimes you find out the hot chick.
There ain't a lot behind that. Sometimes you find out the hot chick and
oh my god, there's all this depth over here that I had no idea
about because all I was looking at is I just wanted to go, hey,
man, guess who I got to go out with the other day,
you know, like a friend of mine who would go Friday night bunny,
guess what I'm going out with? You know, And that would be the
But that was all it was about. It was about the hot person,
not the hot Then you find out maybe the hot person also values family and
really is into music and has a real depth and you can have conversations about
things, and I think sometimes you don't get that on the dating apps.
Now. I'm sure there's somebody who's gonna go, oh, I met my
husband, I met my wife whatever on a dating app. That could be
I'm sure, sure can I think that's why they like create. I mean,
I think like the ones on your phone now are sort of created just
proably cook ups. Right. I don't use dating apps. I don't know
pretty much. But like back in the day when there was like match dot
Com and Christian Mingle and stuff like dolls were intended to like hook people up.
Christian Dad. I did Christian Mingle for about a month and the closest
Christians to mingle with were like in Pennsylvania, Indiana, really Christians in Rochester
any zero they are, but they get married like when they're like twelve.
I mean really, yeah, Okay, it's like Roberts Wesleyan times the power
of one hundred. You find a good Christian woman around here? I guess
so, or if you if you find one, Like there's a catch.
Did you meet your wife on a dating app? You're currently we're in the
band community. See. But but that's what I'm saying. It is like
you had a commonality, Yeah, that brought you together in music. Then
you found out you liked her, You went out a few times. It's
more than that. Now you got a whole life together, which may not
have happened on a dating app. Either one of you may have just gotten
yeah, right, and you met in the wild. We did. That's
when I think. It's always you can't get enough of me? That's right?
When you were married before? Right? Yeah? Was your first?
Was your first break up? Like a public thing? Was it so funny?
Billy? Well, Billy made it a public thing? Whoa, whoa?
No, I didn't know, I know, my god, I didn't
never told the whole segment about it on the drive. What the fuck I
did not know? You did not by name, not my name, Jesus
Christ, not by name, but she called me like that day she goes
it's Bill Murray and your girl partners. He's talking about us on the air
that he knows some girl who was married to this guy that he used to
work with, and then he saw her out at a bar with an older
man. I'm like, well, you're pretty you nailed it so far.
Yeah, it's probably you, but that was hilarious. You're like, dude,
I'm sorry, I'm like for what you're telling the truth. Did anybody
know the reason that you broke up? Like, aside from the drive segment,
did anyone like, did you publicly go on Facebook? Did anybody?
Never never talked about In fact, people still think people come up to house
so and sorry, we we broke up. We got divorced like seven years
ago. We're not together anymore, and they're like, oh, well you're
married. Yeah I got remarried. Oh okay. I never made a public
I never talked about it, never addressed it because because to me, I
thought in the post, doing anything different from like people going on Facebook years
ago and updating their Facebook status is to it's complicated. Yeah to me that
I just took my my Facebook status off in general, and I'm like,
because that, to me was just such trash When people did that stuff,
it was just such trash and attention grabbing. And I was like, no,
it's we're just not together anymore. It moved on, and my family
was pretty cool about it, and they didn't like her. No. In
fact, in my wedding, I'll be honest with you, like a lot
of people are like, all right, what the hell are we doing here?
I found that out later, What the hell are we doing here?
Nobody in your in your corner was like, buddy, oh, there are
a few. There are a few, and you just you're blinded by love.
No. I wasn't blinded by love. We're already had. We're already
seventy percent here. I know. It's no, it's sad, but I
was a se C minus. Yeah, I mean c's get degrees. I
learned a lot from that. I learned a lot from that. I bet
you did. I really did. But how long were you together? I
mean not how long were you married? We were married Okay, five minutes,
we were married thirteen months. We weren't divorced though, for like three
years, but we were married for like thirteen months. Were you were you
seeing each I'm sorry, I'm getting deep. Were you seeing each other at
all during that time? Or you you separated? Could we separated? And
then she would call and need something and then try to like, you know,
woo me back? Did it work? Not really now? And then
like one day she just basically just went to the guy she was scrown around
with anyway, And I was like, okay, it was more of an
ego thing at that point. There's a competition between you and some dude.
Yeah, you know. But then you find out a year later it's true
story. It calls me up one night, and I'm thinking, like most
people wouldn't answer the phone if you're a wife calls and there's nothing to talk
about. But her parents were up in age, so I'm like, okay,
what if something happened? Because it was late at night when she called,
like, hey, what's up, and she's like crying. I go,
what's the matter? And she had got into a fight with this person
and he had a health issue and he didn't want her around and all this
other stuff. She's bawling and I'm like, honey, I mean I said
the word honey, just not a natural naturally right, And I'm like,
I'm giving her some advice and she's like, no one's called me that so
long. You know, you really understand I'm never gonna forgive myself for letting
you go. And in my head, I'm going I win. Yeah,
I mean, it's like it wasn't I go. We weren't meant to be
together, so don't beat yourself up. But I'm like, yeah, you
know what, you are wrong and you did screw up, but hey,
life, we all make mistakes. Time to move. I'm forgiving her.
It's time to Yeah, I like, you never get it wrong, you
know what I mean, nothing's ever wrong. You just you move on.
And yeah, I mean, but you never get life never really ends either.
So no, but you're right, some people it's just a better fit
than others. And I think you find out you gotta have put some worth
in yourself. Yeah, right, So I think having being a feeling like
you're worth more than that, it doesn't mean that they're even a bad person.
That just I'm worth more than this that you're treating me, and I
have more respect for myself. So therefore I'm not going to do this anymore.
I'm not gonna follow myself in that and it Those decisions can be tough
and and not and painful. But you know, it looks like you bounce
back pretty good. Yeah. No, I'm serious. It looks like you're
much happier today. It's a completely different person. Now there you go,
find the right wife, the right job. Why do you feel bad the
driver? No? No, no, it was hilarious. Yeah, but
it wasn't hilarious, like I didn't you didn't name it. I called him
up right after I left that bar. I'm like, okay, buddy.
I was like, I'm like, oh, yeah, I know, because
you saw her come in with somebody that because a week before that she had
like changed like when people are she didn't me changed patterns. Yeah, and
her pattern was all of a sudden, like oh, I'm gonna start putting
my clothes directly into the washer. And I'm like, okay, I know
why. Yeah yeah, so smelled like d car noward. I don't wear
that my favorite. That's terrible. All right, we'll wrap it up for
Alex, who is a new podcast debuting September fourth, called Games and Very
Interesting. She's in here, had it all gamed up. Yeah, that's
right cool. For Dan Barillo, who's heading off Austin Austin, Texas,
I would hear all about it. I'm Bill Moran Tas'll see him Monday