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What's going on? Clippers fans?
Welcome Season two, episode seventy three of

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Clips and Dip. I am Chuck
Buckler, joined by Will Upticking Adam Osland.

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We're coming at you two days after
the Clippers fizzle out of the NBA

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Playoffs in six games to the Dallas
Mavericks. We're going to talk about how

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that all sucked. We're going to
talk about uh, I don't know where

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the team maybe goes from here.
We want to thank everyone who's listening.

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Well, I think when he was
watching over on YouTube dot com slash at

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Clippers podcast and listening where we get
your pods, Adam Will before we kind

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of get into the nitty gritty and
perhaps build our own soapboxes that we stand

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on top of for periods of time. How have the last two days been?

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I know we did the double dip, a very fun double dip after

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the Clippers lost. Will and I
were at the game with the thirty five,

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which was very fun. Shout out
to everybody came up to that.

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You do it, eh, I'm
down about it. I've been under the

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weather. I was just telling you
guys off the air that night Friday night.

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Appropriately so of course I come down
with the flu after the Clippers get

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bounced. It was like my body
was trying to fight back the sickness that

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eventually caved and gave in. And
so I've been dealing with it the last

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couple of days here. Not that
big of a deal, don't warn me,

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but uh, it's just it's tough. I was watching the game today

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intently, the game seven Calves and
Orlando Magic, just thinking to myself,

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kind of wish we had a Clippers
game today. It's gonna be weird watching

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the rest of the playoffs without them. Once again. It's just I don't

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know, I'm obviously it's it's too
raw still for me, it's still it's

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still too soon. But I think
this will help. This will be therapeutic,

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just being able to talk about with
you guys. Yeah, I agree,

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Will How are you doing? We
had a very therapeutic post game five

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episode that people really like that was
very fun. Yeah. Well, I

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mean it's hard because I've kind of
been I've had a really busy couple of

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days, so I haven't had like
a whole lot of time to like process

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and let it sink in. But
it was exactly what I needed. I

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just like, after being so invested
in this team and obviously the way things

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ended, I needed a little bit
of a little bit of a breakaway.

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But I'm excited to talk about it. I'm excited to get into it.

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And yeah, hopefully we can find
some silver linings and some things to look

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forward to. Yes, I hope
that too. Before we talk about which

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Clippers disappointed us the most and which
ones maybe did not disappoint us the most,

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we got to tip our caps to
the MAVs. They beat us.

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They were a better constructed team for
this series, it seems partially. Oh,

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I just also think like physicality and
effort wise, I mean, there

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was especially in those last two games
that was not like that was not even

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what the shorthanded Clippers are capable of. So I think that that was pretty

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disappointing. I agree with that they
didn't maximize what they had available to them.

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Credit the MAVs. Of course,
they beat a Clippers team that didn't

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have Kawhi Leonard, and when they
did, he was probably a liability out

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there, especially in Game three,
which is how he looked because he couldn't

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be himself at all. I've never
seen Kawhi look like that. Before in

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a ball game. Game three,
Game two I felt like was a very

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wittable game we talked about. That
was one that got away from them.

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That was one that was right there
that they probably should have won. But

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Dallas is moving on. I don't
know if they feel like they slayed the

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dragon finally being the Clippers or not. Is it in all a positive take

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that well, at least the Clippers
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the OKC Thunder, the guy they
traded for two one three, because that,

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to me would be I asked you
guys, probably I don't know,

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three or four months ago, what
would be worse losing to the Lakers in

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the playoffs or losing to the OKC
Thunder and SGA and Chuck emeally said,

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oh, the Lakers by far.
But then it was like, whoa,

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you know, it would be a
full circle moment of the guy they traded

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beating them. That's the only way
I could see this being worse right now,

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if you're looking for any positives,
I almost that would have been very

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difficult to see. Yeah, that
would have hurt. And I guess we're

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rooting for the Thunder and the next
I don't know. I'm not I'm rooting

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for everyone to lose. I guess, Yeah, what do we want to

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talk about kind of the effort over
the series? Do we want to talk

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about individual players? Because there's been
a lot of discourse recently amongst Clippers fans

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about Paul George's performance in these I
mean, I think we got to start

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there, right, It starts and
ends there. You know. It's one

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of those things I thought was so
interesting was basically in every pre and post

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game conference, Jason Kidd talked about
how it's up to these two guys,

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like, these two guys got to
get it going. The you know,

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these two guys you really held like
without throwing them under the boss obviously he

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and Luca. Yeah, yeah,
he held his two stars accountable. Uh

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and I'm not saying that Tyler didn't
do that, but certainly, I mean

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I thought one out other than one
outlier stinker of a performance, we did

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not get that same kind of like
accountability from Paul George, both in his

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statements and his overall performances. Yeah. The statements, Yeah, post game

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five, some of the quotes were
very frustrating, just things like I think

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the beauty of it is the older
I've gotten, the less pressure it's been.

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Honestly, Uh you know when you
yeah that show is all right,

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like you live with the results.
I'm not out there to prove nothing to

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nobody. But what I do want
to do is just go up and show

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up for my teammates. Then he
went six to eighteen in game six and

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got outscored by PJ. Tucker in
the second half. Uh so PG had

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and we talked this. He was
in position to be like, you guys

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have money to give me, I'm
gonna show you why I deserve the max

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contract, which there's no way that's
been offered to him or it would have

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been signed. Huge opportunity. It
was right there. James Harden, who

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we are going to talk about,
had his ups, had his downs,

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but did a lot more to show
that he should probably get a contract.

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Paul George showed like, dude,
like, so you're not worried about it,

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your your borderline, wearing a shirt
that says no worries with the chakabra

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on it, and you shot.
You've averaged nineteen points without Kawhi Leonard.

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You don't take twenty field goals a
game, like what is It's horrible.

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This is not the ad that we
want for Paul George. Every narrative about

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Paul George was perpetuated by himself.
In this series. Every negative narrative about

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Paul George came true in some ways. And this is about as bad as

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it could be. He had the
great Game four, especially in the first

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half. The second half three pointer
that probably won them the game was at

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least the biggest shot of the game. I thought Game one he was very

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good overall. Outside of that,
and because we're talking about just two games

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there, I don't think he was
a top three player for the Clippers in

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this series. For your number two
guy to not be a top three player

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in a series without Kawhi Leonard is
pretty inexcusable. And I love Paul George

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and I've defended him, and I
have gone back to twenty twenty one and

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what he did for this team,
dragging them to the Western Conference Finals and

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playing big and big moments. The
Game five in Utah, the Game five

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against Phoenix, it wasn't just Terrence
Mann in that Game six. It was

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a lot of Paul George to get
them over the hump into the Western Conference

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Finals against Utah. I can't believe
I can let a bad shooting series go

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a little bit more, a lot
more actually, if you actually take the

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shot, if you actually put them
up to only take eighteen shots in Game

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six and I think he had ten
in the first half, ten and eleven

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or twelve, and he had fourteen
points and he ends up with four in

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the second half. That just can't
happen. There's no possible avenue for you

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to win that series. With the
way Paul George played, I think James

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Harden was obviously better than him.
I think if each Zubos was obviously better

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than him. I think Terrence Man
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That's why I'm saying he wasn't a
top three player for the Clippers in a

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series where they desperately needed him to
be, and it was a big moment

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for him to show that you're a
number two that can slide into that number

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one spot that's always been the top
from him. When Kawhi is out,

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I'll take over well. And I
think that's the thing that's so befuddling too,

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is just like not even taking the
shots, you know what I mean,

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Like, I think we could live
with the result of a bad shooting

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series. It would hurt, you
know, it would sting, it would

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stink. But like it's so befuddling
because it's like we didn't even get to

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I don't want to say he didn't
try, because I don't believe that either,

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but like we didn't even you know, we didn't get his best look.

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And I don't know what to attribute
that to. If that's a confidence

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thing, if that's him being too
deferential, I'm sure as a factor of

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a combination of all of them,
but it would be one thing, like

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Adam said, like if he just
shot really poorly in this series, which

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he did, but you could but
you would deal with it, you know

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what I mean. But what we
got was just that was not the bill

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of goods that we were sold.
And I think outside of like Game one

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and two, he had defensive moments, but I didn't think he put together

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a performance that a single performance that
made up for his like his offensive liabilities,

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or not not even liabilities, but
like lack of passiveness. It's passiveness

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fifteen point eight field goal attempts per
game in the playoffs without Kawhi Leonard,

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Like, what the hell would it
have been? With Kawhi nine and a

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half, Like, well, I
mean, no, it's a fair question.

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What the it's incredible that and we're
gonna talk about where the Clippers maybe

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even try and go from here.
But these reports coming out that you know,

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Barbara wants to run it back and
stuff like that, it's like,

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so we're gonna get the same We're
gonna get the same thing. Like there's

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nothing like Adam, like you said, there's nothing for me to believe that

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next year is gonna be any different
in the playoffs from Paul George, well

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before we get yeah, more big
picture with that stuff, just Paul George

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not adhering to what's demanded of you
in that position. Without Kawhi Leonard,

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I can say James Harden did his
best and actually he shot forty five percent

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from the from the field, he
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ninety percent from the free throw line. He wasn't great, but he

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was more than solid. He or
then pulled his own weight out there.

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He did his part. He didn't
George didn't. He did more than what

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we traded him for. Uh,
you know, he did more than you

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know, really what he should probably
be expected to at this stage of his

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career. So I do think that
that is like one of the one of

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the brighter things. And I'm not
saying that this is the case, because

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I don't believe that at all,
But like, if it were a situation

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where you want to try to stay
under the second apron, you know you'd

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still have to move some pieces,
But if you're looking at only keeping one

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to two, I mean, what
the hell do you do with this?

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Because you do have a history of
Paul George and a really great playoff run,

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but you also have some more recent
history and that's kind of that's that's

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tough to negotiate. What's disappointing to
me. What's so disappointed to me is

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this was the scenario we talked about
during the offseason where if you brought in

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James Harden and Kawhiir PG one of
those two were out, you'd still have

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a chance to win that series.
And in a first round matchup, you

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definitely had a chance to beat that
team. And I know it was a

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four or five, but offensively,
Luka Dancic had by far his worst series

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against the Clippers, and they still
weren't able to figure it out. How

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to beat this Dallas Mavericks team.
To to their credit, I will say,

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just like I warned everybody coming in
last thirty five games, top ten

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defense. They were much better defensively
than I think a lot of people figured

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they would be. They should have
known. I've been screaming about it for

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months. Luka Kyrie and Luka Kiri
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I mean, they were the best
defenders out there, but like the way

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they elevated their like with what they
had to do offensively, the way they

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were able to ale. I was
told they were going to be food.

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They're gonna be food guys. And
Derek Jones Junior and PJ Washington they're not

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that great. Derek Jones Junior locked
up Paul George in this series. PJ

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Washington played great defense in this series. So for anyone that tried to downplay

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Dallas Mavericks scheduled cream puff schedule they
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well I guess that was completely wrong, huh, because their defense showed up.

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It showed up so much that they
could get a poor performance from Luka

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Doncic and still get out of a
first round series. And for all the

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people who said Kyrie Irving hasn't been
the same without Lebron James in a playoff

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series, Well, he was the
best player in this series. So hies

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given me Christmas? How many people
were wrong with their previews coming into this

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one. I'm glad we tried to
steer him in the right direction and let

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him know what could actually happen,
and it is what happened in this series.

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Unfortunately. Yeah, and kind of
do we have anything? I also

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thought, because I mean Ali Crow
on this one, you know, I

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did think that the defensive liability of
Luca and Kyrie like it. I didn't

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think it would be their undoing,
but I did think that it was a

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disadvantage. I also thought we were
going to get, you know, the

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version of this Clippers offense, obviously
less Kawhi, but but more what it

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looked like in that dominant streak.
I did not expect it to crater the

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way that it did, and when
we talk about it cratering. Do we

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have anything more to say really about
Paul George other than that we're horribly disappointed

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in his actions and how he responded
to questions. Well, is this the

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point where we ask whether or not
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saving that for later with more Oh
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I that is such a difficult question. Can I just say personally, like

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this is just on a personal level, I do not want to watch a

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root for this dude for another fucking
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I don't want to do it.
I'm tired of it. I think we

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understand what the end result is going
to be, and honestly, I would

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take two less good players that are
at least accountable. That's it. That's

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where I'm at. I'm not going
to sit here and pretend like that doesn't

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hold a bunch of weight because that
it's very frustrating to watch it happen over

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and over and over, and the
accountability thing is annoying. And I don't

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look Tobias Harrison a pick or Tobias
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a rotation ready wing. It's just
frustrating because he has all the talent in

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the world to be one of the
best players and shows that here and there

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during nights during the regular season some
playoff games as well. It just seems

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between the years, it just seems
between how many shots he's going to put

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up in a ball game. Is
he gonna be aggressive enough? All you

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have to do is a question.
Yeah, if it's as simple as just

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being aggressive enough, I don't.
He just turned thirty four. That's not

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fixable at this point. That's not
going to change. This is who he's

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going to be the rest of his
career. He's gonna be up and down.

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He's gonna be hot and cold.
Apparently he's not good enough to be

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a second option, can slide in
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having James Harden next to him to
beat the Dallas Mavericks when Luca had a

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bad series. That to me,
that's really hard to justify to not understand

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where Will's coming from, because a
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from feel a similar way. And
obviously I'm talking like this is like on

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an emotional level basketball wise, if
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paper roster talent, there's not somebody
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I would totally understand if they ran
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But I'm just saying this, this
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I really don't want to root for
this dude for another year. He doesn't

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have anything to prove per him.
He has said that. I mean,

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he's a Hall of Famer. He's
not wrong. He doesn't have to prove

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anything, but he's wanting to like
to counter that. I will also go

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to Paul George and all the legacy
talk he had coming into this season in

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multiple interviews talking about winning, cures
everything, and when he got his last

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extension, guys, do you know
what he said? Do you know what

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he said? The reporter asked,
so, what do you feel like you

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got to get back to the organization? He said, A ring. I

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own a ring. I owem malariyo
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because they haven't necessarily won a ring. You're not going to win it without

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Kawhi Leonard. But again, did
you play to the best of your abilities,

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to your talent level in a situation
in this first round series against this

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Dallas team, Because I think if
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Kawhi never comes back and they don't
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But I don't think they peaked or
hit their ceiling for what they had

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available to them. So you're saying, do you want Tom back? I

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think the Clippers. I think that's
this is what sucks, as the Clippers

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are going to bring him back because
that oh yeah, real like realistically,

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I mean, chock it up.
I would. I would be pretty shocked

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if Paul George is not on the
roster opening night and we're gonna go through

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the same thing most likely, unless
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Well, if he continued to ask
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about that. Yeah, if he
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about that. If he gives a
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can have a little bit more room
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Leonard did, then there's probably a
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I guess it'll be that, yeah, because you got to have the same

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point too, because if you know, if the conversations are Max or bust

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Man, even though you have a
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and you know there's not talent wise, a better like realistic free agent

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out there or anything you might you
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away if you're the Clippers. Well, the problem is, say you lose

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him in the forty five million he's
making right now and he doesn't opt into

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the last year of this deal,
which he won't because he's going to get

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a longer term deal with more guaranteed
money. It's a smart thing to do,

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of course, but it's not like
you can just slot somebody in from

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the outside. You can overpay your
own guys to go over the cap with

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birds rights. That's why they could
afford to give James Harden so much more

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money. Same thing with Paul George. It's not either or they could have

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Paul George, or they could have
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I think is going to be a
free agent this summer. So they're in

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a really tough spot where there aren't
a lot of options. That's what it's

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looking like this summer. Even though
Paul George just had that playoff series,

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even though he just turned thirty four
years of age. Do you have a

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better alternative? I don't know if
they do. Why. And that's what

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you're saying intellectually that you know he's
on this roster. Ope at night,

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I'm just saying that, as like
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I would be fine taking a step
back, taking a step back to at

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least take a stab at something different, take a stab at a different outcome.

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And if you do go with the
logic irrationale of there's a new arena,

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they have to sign these guys,
they have to sell seats. Yes,

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Paul George plays seventy plus this year. He and Kawhi Leonard are obviously

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unreliable when it comes to availability.
Paul George is unliable also when it comes

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to playing to his potential, Like
how many games do you know you're going

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to get out of them to fill
seats in the arena. Even if guys

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are signed that are big names,
if they're not out there on the court,

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what does it matter. I hope
he can stay healthy. He obviously

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had the knee and the groin issue
this year, and for two months he

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didn't look like himself. Two whole
months, so Paul George looked rough,

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and then he looked much better,
and then basically his numbers in this playoff

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series went back to where he was
when he was looking that bad for about

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two months due to injury. Here's
something later that he was dealing with something

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probably don't even get us. Was
fine. Yeah, but as an excuse,

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I can see like there's obviously we're
gonna talk about this later. There's

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no exit interviews from the Clippers,
because why would they do that If you're

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new to this team, they don't
give you any information. And the fact

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that there's no exit interviews, I
think personally just me is insane and really

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shows a lack of accountability by most
people in me see not like a league

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requirement. I think they might be
fine. I don't know. Yeah.

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Uh. The people keep bringing up
a sign in trade guys that hard caps

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the team that brings him in,
So no contender is gonna be able to

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do that. They're already over the
cap. And then he wouldn't sign off

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on going to a bad team and
a sign and trade, so it doesn't

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work. The NBA has put so
many restrictions out there with the recent CBA

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agreements that it's not happening. That's
a pipe dream. You're not gonna be

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able to trade his fifty million for
another fifty million dollar player with some other

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team. That's not an option.
So with Kawhi Leonard already on this three

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year extension and you extending the two
to three era because of that, do

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you have a more realistic way to
still be competitive and to still have a

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shot if everything breaks your way,
if everything goes right, if players who

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are injury prone when they're younger somehow
get less injury prone as they get older,

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which never happens for the most part. I I don't know. It's

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a really tough sell right now with
people and their disbelief of whether or not

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Kawhi Leonard can ever stay healthy because
of what happened again this season. It's

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a really hard sell and I understand
it, and it's really unfortunate, and

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nobody is more frustrated than Kawhi Leonard. Everybody is so disappointed that this happened

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again. But the reality is four
straight year where he either wasn't available to

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start a playoff run or to end
a playoff run. And I don't know

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how at this point you could think
it's realistic that he's able to go through

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the grind of the regular season and
then also make it through thirty five forty

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playoff games whatever would be to go
through and win the NBA Finals. I

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just don't when he's about to turn
thirty three. Yeah, it's I guess

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I admire people who are you riding
or dying with this big three, But

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it's just gonna be the same thing
next season unless there's a big thing that

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happens in the middle of the season
where it's going to be these three dudes

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terrenceon Zoo in either have already gotten
extensions or in contract years because terrenceon Zoo

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are unrestricted free agents after next season. And if I were them, they

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can hold the Clippers over a barrel
for what they can ask for. They're

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available. I was availability for like, Yeah, they've done every single thing

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the team has asked them, which
has been a lot. They were,

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as Adam pointed out, probably the
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for the Clippers. They've shown they've
gotten better, Like I can see them

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not wanting to be here after the
frustration of of this. I'm waving my

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hands for those of you listening just
at the last five years, Like it's

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it's a it seems very difficult to
play for this Clippers team as difficult it

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is to watch it with the injuries
and everything. It also seems incredibly difficult

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as players remember all they were told
Midweek Kawhi wasn't gonna play, and then

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they were all they were asked about
it, and they all kind of gave

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these weird answers because the way that
the team handles the media, the lesser

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guys have to take questions the stars
would usually get, which I think something

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that has to affect some guys.
You have to answer questions is not only

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lesser in a bad way, but
you know what I'm saying, like lesser

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in terms of the rotation, Like
these aren't the stars. They shouldn't be

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answering questions about the stars like that. Like it's yeah, they're not taking

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up a thirty year cap. Yeah, it's a frustrating place to play.

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And I'm just like, I'm so
nervous for these next couple of seasons because

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it's just and if you're like a
if you're like a contender or even a

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fringe contender, I mean I would
have my eye on whatever's happened with that

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Terrance, Like Terrance Man contract expect
for Zoo Zoo is like he's a four

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for eighty guy. I don't think
that's crazy at all, Zoo. It's

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between him and Harden for the best
two players in this series. And maybe

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the only reason it's not definitive with
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give him the ball in that to
clearly be the most important guy or the

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most impactful guy in this series.
Like I think he definitely would have been

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had he got more opportunities. With
how much uncertainty is going on with your

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stars and their availability, I agree
with you, it's very difficult for these

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young guys who have had to take
on different roles for years now, who

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have had to fill in the cracks
for years now. They were supposed to

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be those guys that you know,
do the dirty work, not have to

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lead them in scoring sometimes or you
know the twenty twenty two season or twenty

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one twenty two season, no Kawhi
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one games, Reggie Jackson and Marcus
Morris, where two winning scores. I

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think like that type of stuff.
You could say, one of these guys

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done, you know what I mean? Like what could you have? Like

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what have you possibly asked of them? What goal or benchmark have you set

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that they have not that they have
not hit or exceeded. Yeah, I

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do feel for them I wonder though, just like with coach lou and I'm

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sure we're gonna talk about this coming
up with the reporting on him getting a

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long term deal, if you just
still, because of the locker room and

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the relationship you have with the organization
that the Clippers still have by far the

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inside track to retain them, you
know. Yeah, And we're still getting

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a little bit of ahead of ourselves
because it's their extension eligible, but they

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are not unrestricted free agents this summer
or anything like that. I would throw

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out this possibility. And if they
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and James Harden because there really aren't
better options, I totally understand that it

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makes sense to some degree, but
I was running through where the salary cap

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is projected to be this upcoming year
around one, and then I was adding

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up the Clipper's salary if James Harden
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and that would leave them with about
twenty to twenty five million dollars to

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play with. What about the possibility
it may be unlikely, but spreading money

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out and trying to build a competitive
team that can get by without Kawhi Leonard

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and when he's there, he blends
in and he's the hammer, and you

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still have a chance to contend when
he's available, but when he's not,

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you still are at least hanging maybe
a few games above five hundred type of

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thing with younger players, more available
players because they're younger, less injury prone

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guys. The Toronto Raptors. You
look at that situation now and at the

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time, you know, I think
Kawhi missed something like seventeen games during that

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regular season twenty eighteen twenty nineteen,
and they got by with going smashing success.

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But God, they had Kyle Lowry, they had Siakam, they had

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Marcus Soohl, they had Fred van
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was a really, really good core
and some of those guys were just coming

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into their own. Would the Clippers
have enough or could they create something where

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you could at least just stay competitive
and do a little better than tread water,

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and then when Kawhai's there, boom, you could really be running on

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all cylinders because this team hasn't been
good enough when Kawhi is not there.

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is Kawhi Leonard. I'm just saying,

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can you have some of that fun, spirited young play youth and athleticism gets

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you by, and then when Kawhi
is able to go, he just adds

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to it and it's a hand in
glove fit and bam, you have a

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chance to contend. I just don't
know that it's that easy, like in

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the West. I don't think it's
that I'm just asking like no, I

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mean, I think probably less likely, but I think that that's an ideal

407
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situation. I just think like finding
that balance, especially when you don't have

408
00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:21,960
draft picks, either you know,
to get guys for cheap contracts or to

409
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:26,559
make a deal happen. Well,
I only bring it up in a difficult

410
00:30:26,599 --> 00:30:30,799
prospect. The only you're right to
actually commit to it, which means not

411
00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:36,920
going with Paul George and James Harden. Yeah, I don't know. If

412
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,799
Paul George kept playing hardball, I
think that's on the table. I think

413
00:30:38,839 --> 00:30:47,400
that's a possibility. James Carden's about
to turn thirty five. Do we think

414
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,759
there's a world where James Harden gets
a like an insane offer of the Clippers,

415
00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:53,480
just like it would make sense for
them to not match. I don't

416
00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:56,359
think so. You don't think so, because that's what I had hoped for.

417
00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,200
My dreamt when the hard and trade
happened, was that he played so

418
00:31:00,359 --> 00:31:03,839
well the Clippers, you know,
go to the Western Conference finals, they

419
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,319
go to the finals whatever that then
he's offered such a crazy contract that it

420
00:31:07,359 --> 00:31:11,720
wouldn't even have made sense for the
Clippers or been possible for them to match

421
00:31:11,759 --> 00:31:14,799
it. That was my dream after
I mean, look at the contenders with

422
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,720
cap space. I mean, he's
not going back to Philly. I don't

423
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:21,680
think that. I don't know that
New York would really be that interested in

424
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,319
that prospect. I mean, I
think that he could work next to Brunson,

425
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,160
but if you got money to play
with, I don't know that.

426
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:30,000
I don't think that's like timeline wise, it just doesn't really make a lot

427
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,000
of sense, right, and he
needs the ball in his hand. And

428
00:31:33,079 --> 00:31:37,640
look, I guess I'm dreaming a
little bit with this retool situation where you

429
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:41,279
could have a hole is greater than
some of its parts. Twenty eighteen twenty

430
00:31:41,359 --> 00:31:45,519
nineteen Light Clippers team that won forty
nine games before they entered the two point

431
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:48,799
three era. I just I see
it as one of two scenarios, or

432
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:52,960
maybe there's three maybe they would completely
try to bottom out, but it doesn't

433
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,000
sound like that something Steve Balmer is
ever going to do with this team,

434
00:31:57,319 --> 00:32:02,880
with this franchise, or they just
run it back, or they try something

435
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,240
different, like next season you get
Kai Jones and Bones Highland getting a bunch

436
00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:12,440
of minutes next to Terrence Man and
Deviatza zubas Bro. How are you ever

437
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:15,480
gonna find out about these guys if
you actually get young players run. Part

438
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:19,759
of the problem with this era is
they've never given it a big enough chance.

439
00:32:20,119 --> 00:32:23,400
Not playing Bones this season was a
problem that kills you in the playoffs

440
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,680
when Rusk goes eight for forty two
and you feel like you don't have another

441
00:32:27,759 --> 00:32:31,160
option out there, literally eight for
forty two the last five games. It

442
00:32:31,279 --> 00:32:36,079
kills you. When I know Kai
Jones was picked up late, but just

443
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,839
for argument's sake, you have to
play some of these young guys like Kobe

444
00:32:38,839 --> 00:32:43,799
Brown getting that shot in November and
actually starting to look a little bit better.

445
00:32:44,279 --> 00:32:47,200
Well, if they continued that way, maybe PJ. Tucker isn't starting

446
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:52,319
and I must win Game six,
so I want to That's a great segment.

447
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:53,480
We got to take a quick audio
break for the ads because I want

448
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,160
to talk about the coaching and the
develop We want to talk like coaching the

449
00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,559
development for the Clippers, because this
this Playoffs also showed you watch this,

450
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:06,200
you watch these other playoff games,
the Clippers roster is getting waxed athletically by

451
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,920
every other team in the playoffs.
Right now, coming up, we're gonna

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do We're gonna be talking development and
tylus stuff after this break in three two

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one. All right, welcome back
into clips and dip. If you watch

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this over on YouTube, that's at
Clippers Podcast YouTube dot com, slash at

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Clippers Podcast. We never less,
but we're talking a little bit here about

456
00:33:28,319 --> 00:33:32,720
sort of our overall game six re
review, uh, sort of some wider

457
00:33:32,839 --> 00:33:39,200
picture stuff about the Clippers and what
the future looks like. And I guess

458
00:33:39,359 --> 00:33:44,000
I you know, we know the
Taylu extension situation. I think it was

459
00:33:44,039 --> 00:33:47,000
the best available option. But Charles, you have some thoughts on some of

460
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:52,480
the coaching and development uh following this
game six. Yeah, so kind of

461
00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:54,680
just what Adam was talking about.
Right, Like PJ. Tucker starts in

462
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,319
game six, which all of us, I think felt like we had just

463
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:02,079
taken a revolver and em the clip
into the top of our foot with because

464
00:34:02,079 --> 00:34:05,599
it was just like, we know
how that's gonna go. He's not a

465
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,440
guy who should start. He's not
like, yes, he outscored Paul George

466
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:13,519
in the second half, but that's
incredible and very depressing. But there was

467
00:34:13,559 --> 00:34:17,440
no Daniel Tice. There was no
counter for when Mason Plumley was the worst

468
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:22,079
player on the floor at sometimes like
I was calling him out after Game two.

469
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,400
Plumby can't play anymore in this series. He had one good stint for

470
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:30,760
three minutes fourth quarter Game four.
That's it. And somehow Daniels Tice never

471
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,280
saw the floor and that goes and
that's so weird because Daniel Tye got a

472
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,559
bunch of minutes in the season and
was seemingly ahead of Mason Plumley for good

473
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:42,239
reason. But we well that was
due to the injury though, right true,

474
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,679
But then he also just was playing
better with him. And then we

475
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:51,119
get to Game six and PJ.
Tucker starts, and everyone like, you

476
00:34:51,159 --> 00:34:52,840
can't tell me that you had hope
when you saw PJ. Tucker in the

477
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:59,199
starting lineup. I'm just the proverbial
you. Everyone listening and stuff like.

478
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:02,639
But that goes back to no bones
rust was horrible. There's a bunch of

479
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:06,440
weird rush reports that came out too. That's I don't know, but like,

480
00:35:07,639 --> 00:35:08,960
and I don't know if that's a
Tie thing or a Lawrence thing,

481
00:35:09,039 --> 00:35:13,320
because we've heard reports that they're bringing
Tie, they want to extend Tie,

482
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,800
but nothing about Lawrence so far.
Yeah, And I would say, like

483
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:21,639
that speaks to like sort of the
dire situation really of this roster, Like

484
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,480
you have to have guys on the
floor that that you're not comfortable with.

485
00:35:25,519 --> 00:35:30,000
And it's a twofold issue. Like
obviously the front office, you know,

486
00:35:30,519 --> 00:35:36,039
not putting together the best collection of
players is an issue, but like,

487
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:39,480
the lack of development is huge.
And one of the reasons the Clippers looked

488
00:35:39,519 --> 00:35:44,719
so good for that stretch that they
did is we were getting amazing games out

489
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:50,400
of the three players that we've somehow
managed to develop. In addition with Kawhi

490
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,079
Leonard and Paul George both being available, like that a mere coffee was insane

491
00:35:54,159 --> 00:35:58,559
during that stretch. Abatza Zubats had
a double double, like damn near every

492
00:35:58,599 --> 00:36:01,159
game, you know, and Terrence, you know, continue to be great,

493
00:36:01,199 --> 00:36:06,079
shot really well during that stretch.
So it's you know, it's not

494
00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:08,239
like it's a surprise. None of
this stuff should be a surprise, even

495
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:13,239
when you go all in like the
Clippers did, and we've seen other teams

496
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,280
do in the past, like you
can't forget about all those moves around the

497
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,599
margins. And we came in this
season and I was saying, the only

498
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:25,159
chance for this like championship window to
be extended is to get the best possible

499
00:36:25,199 --> 00:36:30,199
play out of the young Gish not
even fully young, the young Gish guys

500
00:36:30,199 --> 00:36:36,719
that you have on this roster.
Well, it's really hard to go all

501
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:43,800
in with vets, and when some
of those breakdown, your break glass in

502
00:36:43,840 --> 00:36:47,639
case of emergency move is to go
with an even older veteran in PJ.

503
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:54,239
Tucker, instead of giving Kobe Brown
a look because he just hadn't played at

504
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:59,760
all, hardly at all this year
after November. If he had got more

505
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:05,000
time, then maybe he's the guy
that gets an opportunity when nothing's working for

506
00:37:05,079 --> 00:37:08,280
you. But then again, I
don't know how daniel Tye doesn't get run

507
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:12,719
before it comes to PJ. Tucker. I don't know how daniel Tye did

508
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:15,760
not get to fill in some of
those minutes when it beats Zubats was on

509
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,679
the bench, especially because Daniel Gafferd's
not that big. Against Lively maybe more

510
00:37:20,679 --> 00:37:22,920
of a problem, but against Daniel
Gafford or against Maxie Cleebland when they went

511
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:28,599
small, how's Daniel Tys not a
decent option then a guy who I know

512
00:37:28,639 --> 00:37:32,679
it's on low volume, but shooting
thirty nine percent a low volume is still

513
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:37,440
worlds apart from a guy who takes
zero threes and can't stretch the floor.

514
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:42,039
And Mason Plumbley and Daniel Tyss is
actually where he should be, whether or

515
00:37:42,039 --> 00:37:44,679
not. He gets dumped on sometimes
and he's too small to be able to

516
00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:50,159
defend the rim. He doesn't make
his many defensive mistakes on rotations, and

517
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,119
he could guard better on the perimeter
when Luka Doncis pulls you out there or

518
00:37:54,199 --> 00:38:00,280
Kyrie Irving than Mason Plumley could.
That move was baffling to me with what

519
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,519
he had given them this season when
they were in a really bad spot,

520
00:38:02,559 --> 00:38:09,880
when Mason Plumbing went down and he
overachieved, he definitely outplayed expectations. For

521
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,960
him to not get rewarded with some
playoff minutes that is hard to fathom and

522
00:38:15,039 --> 00:38:20,719
understand. And how do we feel
I mean ty Lewitz. Seems like the

523
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,760
Clippers want him to be the coach
for an extended period of time. There

524
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:28,239
was the report that he's going to
be extended. What other if he'll have

525
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:31,400
us It's kind of what it is, kind of like what I have to

526
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:35,119
stand And I know, I mean, I know that we're all talking about

527
00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:42,480
we weren't fans of how this rotation, these rotations went out, and I

528
00:38:42,559 --> 00:38:46,679
just think that this has got to
have been the most frustrating tenure for Tyleru.

529
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:52,000
Like we saw how exasperated he was
at times answering the same damn questions

530
00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:55,239
he has no answer to, you
know, like he it's not up to

531
00:38:55,320 --> 00:39:01,400
him, like the availability of his
stars. And regardless of how you feel

532
00:39:01,559 --> 00:39:06,360
about him in this series, I
do think there were things that could have

533
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,320
been changed, but not by much, you know what I mean. There

534
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,239
just wasn't the guys that you can
trust and rely on. I mean,

535
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,440
you bring up Tys. I think
that's a valid one. Bones I want

536
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:22,519
to believe, like I want to
believe that that could have been a difference

537
00:39:22,559 --> 00:39:25,880
maker. But he had to get
a run in the regular season probably right.

538
00:39:27,039 --> 00:39:30,000
Bulls had to start playing some of
the regular season and with Russ there

539
00:39:30,159 --> 00:39:34,760
and needing minutes, it wasn't gonna
happen. And some of it's on bones

540
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,199
because when he got minutes, he
had the great game of Chicago, he

541
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,679
was okay against New Orleans, and
then he just checked out. Once James

542
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,719
Harden came back, like, oh, I'm not going to be the starter

543
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,960
anymore, I guess. I guess
I'm not gonna work his hard out there

544
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,639
because the effort, I mean,
his shoulders dropped. You could see it.

545
00:39:47,639 --> 00:39:51,880
It was visible. That was really
disappointing. So some of it is

546
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,559
on him. And I love coach
Lou and I don't think you have a

547
00:39:54,599 --> 00:39:59,079
better option than him, And I
don't think it's a coincidence that that story

548
00:39:59,159 --> 00:40:01,440
dropped right after Ham was letting go
because of all the rumors going on with

549
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:07,559
the Lakers. But I also don't
understand I was tweeting it at the time.

550
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,679
You have to start normOn Powell in
the second half. You can't start

551
00:40:09,679 --> 00:40:15,840
PJ again in the third quarter after
Norm. Just the Norm Powell Powell Rangers

552
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:19,280
alternate lineup got them back into it
and had it tied at fifty two and

553
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,519
a half. It was a tie
game. They were right there, and

554
00:40:22,559 --> 00:40:28,440
the third quarter starts and they're just
falling all over themselves and turn the basketball

555
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,239
over and PJ had one of those
turnovers too. That made no sense to

556
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:37,280
me. So we just and this
is I think this goes back to what

557
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,119
I was saying earlier too, is
you know, we've seen flashes of Tyler

558
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:43,719
really coach his ass off and make
a lot of great things work. And

559
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,880
just like with the Stars, we
just have to hope that it works out

560
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:51,920
next year. I think that's it. I think when Tie has everyone available,

561
00:40:52,159 --> 00:40:54,760
you're gonna get the best version of
him that as a championship winning head

562
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,679
coach that gives you a chance to
out maneuver everybody else. When he doesn't

563
00:40:59,679 --> 00:41:04,000
have all his pieces, especially someone
like Kawhi, then tinkering Tie happens and

564
00:41:04,039 --> 00:41:07,320
he may do some stuff or may
have some blind spots for players that you

565
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:12,280
disagree with. That that might be
it. And but the like, I

566
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,599
guess my point is just like for
this year with the with the guys gone

567
00:41:15,679 --> 00:41:19,000
like the like, what is there
to tak like? I mean, what

568
00:41:19,159 --> 00:41:21,840
is there really to tinker with?
And I agree with going with the power

569
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:25,159
Rangers, which had worked for you
that's a little baffling, but like overall,

570
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,960
like you know, there is not
much to tinker with. There's not

571
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:34,480
a lot of guys in this rotation
that you would trust in playoff minutes.

572
00:41:35,039 --> 00:41:37,320
Having to take kJ Tucker in with
that, with the hard and trade was

573
00:41:38,159 --> 00:41:45,039
such a big I mean wait in
that for this roster right, Like I'm

574
00:41:45,079 --> 00:41:49,400
not saying, you know, like
having to take him, he's gonna opt

575
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:52,119
in. Russ is gonna opt into
his year too. So now we have

576
00:41:52,159 --> 00:41:55,639
these two guys too, I'm assuming
we're gonna try and trade because Russ talk

577
00:41:55,679 --> 00:41:59,320
about another guy I don't want to
watch for another year on this team,

578
00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:04,239
Russell Westbrook. Sorry, everybody who
really loves Russ. He was horrible in

579
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,079
this playoffs and he didn't cost the
Clippers any games, but he sure as

580
00:42:07,079 --> 00:42:12,079
hell didn't help him win any And
for someone, I think it's arguable that

581
00:42:12,119 --> 00:42:15,960
those those Russ plumbly like as soon
as two guys came in, dude,

582
00:42:16,039 --> 00:42:22,360
it was like it was And I
don't want to hear anything from Russ stands

583
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:27,280
trying to justify a guy going eight
for forty two by well, it was

584
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,760
the wrong lineup, so or you
gotta give him more run. You gotta

585
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,840
let him take care of his mistakes
or give him a chance to make up

586
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:39,000
for them. Eight for forty two
guys was the worst shooting percentage over the

587
00:42:39,039 --> 00:42:45,159
stretch of five games in a playoff
series of all time. And that shouldn't

588
00:42:45,159 --> 00:42:50,679
be shocking because eight for forty two
is in fact that bad, unbelievably bad.

589
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:55,360
And he's out there with another big
they can't stretch the floor. If

590
00:42:55,360 --> 00:43:00,360
you're wondering why they're all that's been
the defense, right, is that everyone's

591
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:02,719
like, well, they're not putting
Russ in the right spots. Well,

592
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:07,119
you got to cater to Russ.
You got to minimize his weaknesses and maximize

593
00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:12,159
his strengths. You got to cater
around Russell Westbrook. How are you supposed

594
00:43:12,199 --> 00:43:15,360
to how are you supposed to make? Like, what is an offense around

595
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,239
that? What does catering around Russ
have to do with him smoking all these

596
00:43:19,320 --> 00:43:22,400
layups? What does it have to
do with him missing layups? It's one

597
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,159
thing to say that there's not enough
space for him to get to the basket.

598
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,079
No, when he did get to
the basket, he still couldn't make

599
00:43:29,159 --> 00:43:31,719
them. He couldn't make them there's
no perfect lineup for a guy who can't

600
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:36,800
make layups anymore? What was he
in Game four, Game five, two

601
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:42,639
for seven in their sectaria at the
rim? Like yeah, uh, and

602
00:43:43,039 --> 00:43:45,320
I wanted Russ to be a spark, but it never happened. Never even

603
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:50,760
it was it sparked the opposition him
getting into it with Dallas in Game three

604
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,280
and getting ejected. Who did that
help? It helped the Dallas Mavericks.

605
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:58,480
Their crowd was more on top of
them. They completely won that psychological battle.

606
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:05,280
He's also from things scuttle butt and
things here and there, someone who

607
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:09,280
very much wants his stats in playing
time. Right now, I know that

608
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:15,119
there's this. He is a great
team guy for the most part, but

609
00:44:15,159 --> 00:44:20,519
there's very much a reality where Russell
Westbrook wants things for Russell Westbrook on the

610
00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:24,480
court, and like you can,
I don't know, there's just he had

611
00:44:24,519 --> 00:44:30,079
to be his defense. But then
he refuted that, saying like that is

612
00:44:30,159 --> 00:44:35,119
what happened at all, Like the
team propped up Russ to be the pr

613
00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:39,239
machine, because that's what like,
it's it's just we had to cater it

614
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,719
around. We're supposedly having to cater
around Russ to make his offense better,

615
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:45,400
and we have to cater around him
to make him feel comfortable. He's in

616
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:51,599
his thirties, where this is an
old team. This isn't a Russ who's

617
00:44:51,639 --> 00:44:54,400
in line for a mass contract.
We are old. And by the way,

618
00:44:54,639 --> 00:44:59,920
his style of basketball never won anything
when he was in his prime,

619
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:05,039
So what are we doing here?
He won MVPs when they're like a sixth

620
00:45:05,079 --> 00:45:09,840
seed, like because he averaged a
triple double. It's not it doesn't help

621
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:14,599
you, Like he raises your floor. But I'm not so sure he ever

622
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:20,719
has raised anyone's ceiling. One one
first round series outside of when when Kevin

623
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,559
Durant wasn't there one and that was
in the bubble with James Harden on Houston.

624
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,840
But do you think they trade him? Well, do you think they

625
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,760
package PJ and Russ and try and
get him off the roster because that's the

626
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:35,119
only tradeable. We have no picks. We better not trade. I mean,

627
00:45:35,159 --> 00:45:37,480
like, who's taking on those contracts? Like what are you talking about

628
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:45,320
in a trade a shitty team.
I don't like just taking on like without

629
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:47,199
an asset, like with without an
asset, Like what are you trading?

630
00:45:47,639 --> 00:45:51,320
Yeah? No, I pick up
the phone, right now and someone says

631
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,000
I'll give you PJ. Tucker and
Russell Westbrook. Before you even hear the

632
00:45:54,079 --> 00:45:59,079
end of that conversation, you're hanging
up the phone. I don't know if

633
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:02,480
Michael Winger in Washington we want to
bring him back there. They liked him,

634
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,519
he helped get them to the first
round. I don't know. Is

635
00:46:07,519 --> 00:46:12,760
there some sentimental team out there that
is willing to bring in Russell well right,

636
00:46:14,119 --> 00:46:19,400
celt tickets I I if those reports
are true, I don't know how

637
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,960
they can keep him around and have
James Harden at the same time. Right,

638
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:27,280
He's Paul George's friend. That's how
they keep him around. It's been

639
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,000
it's been Paul George's league of super
friends for the Clippers for a couple of

640
00:46:30,039 --> 00:46:32,679
seasons. That's the thing that's so
crazy, too, is I do feel

641
00:46:32,679 --> 00:46:37,000
like, look, you can have
your you can have your criticisms of Lawrence

642
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:40,039
Frank I do too. That's fine, that's fair. But we have catered

643
00:46:40,159 --> 00:46:44,719
everything to Paul George and Kawhi.
We have done everything that they asked us

644
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,840
to do. So for Paul George
to not show up in the way that

645
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:51,519
he did not show up in this
like how much more trust can we give

646
00:46:51,559 --> 00:46:53,679
you? How much more can we
both both to your confidence? We have

647
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:59,159
done every single thing you have asked, even when it is actively bad for

648
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:02,679
this roster, like we have done
it for you in the hopes that you

649
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:09,360
would show up. And where are
you? He's in the garage. They

650
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:14,639
definitely have put in the support group
that has been asked for by the stars.

651
00:47:15,519 --> 00:47:20,639
And when Lawrence Frank came out after
the trade dayline last year and talked

652
00:47:20,679 --> 00:47:23,119
about the type of player he was
looking for, the type of point guard

653
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:29,480
who didn't have massive deficiencies on one
end or the other, it clearly seemed

654
00:47:29,599 --> 00:47:32,559
like this was pointed towards this is
why we don't want Russell Westbrook. This

655
00:47:32,599 --> 00:47:37,800
is why we don't want this player. They kept campaigning for him, they

656
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:43,280
ended up getting him. Russ is
a fan favorite, He is beloved by

657
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:49,400
his teammates. Yeah, good dude. I like Russell Westbrook. I don't

658
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,599
know if this is a good fit
anymore, if those reports are true.

659
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:57,039
I and they want to bring back
James Harden too, so that means Russell

660
00:47:57,039 --> 00:48:00,719
Westbrook is still coming off the bench. Is that tenable? How can you

661
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:07,400
go down that path again? The
heart the line Bones like seriously and that

662
00:48:07,079 --> 00:48:09,639
he needs to be behind Bones in
the rotation. And I'm not saying that

663
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,679
Bones is like gonna be incredible or
necessarily have a breakout year, but you

664
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,079
have to try. They have to
see what they have with Bones. They

665
00:48:16,199 --> 00:48:20,599
have to see what they have with
Bones. The Laurence Frank part guard quote

666
00:48:20,679 --> 00:48:29,280
is so much worse looking at it
Us forever where like he had to completely

667
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:34,840
backtrack the entire like mission statement of
what this team was and the players that

668
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,760
they were looking for because of Tyler
and Paul George. This quote was if

669
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,280
there was a point guard that could
be in our top eight or nine,

670
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,719
we looked at those guys, someone
who what we played off the foard defensively,

671
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:49,840
play on ball, but not be
so ball dominant. Gotta be able

672
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:54,960
to shoot is the end of that
quote. Gotta be able to shoot.

673
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:59,480
And they went with quite literally,
I think the worst shooting point guard.

674
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:04,280
They thought they could get Mike Conley
or Kyle Lowry. Probably it didn't happen,

675
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,000
even some reports of Kyrie irving at
that time. It didn't happen.

676
00:49:08,639 --> 00:49:15,079
And Paul George came out postgame and
said, get us Russ Tylers. What

677
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:17,480
did Tyler say? Said something crazy
too. He was like, you know,

678
00:49:17,519 --> 00:49:20,679
we tried, he tried his best, but he couldn't get us who

679
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,840
we needed, or something like that. That's just so clearly about if Russ

680
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:27,960
is back, I'll support them.
Any of these guys back, I'll support

681
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,079
them their Clippers. I'm all in. I'm with it right now. You

682
00:49:31,159 --> 00:49:37,960
have decisions to be made. You
do have options at this point, not

683
00:49:37,079 --> 00:49:40,480
a lot, but yes, there
are a couple. I think that's a

684
00:49:40,559 --> 00:49:46,559
good that's a good segue though,
to go into kind of like what's next

685
00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:50,760
for like we're gonna take a quick
ad break and come back about that,

686
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,920
but like, what is what do
we what are we doing? Uh?

687
00:49:55,239 --> 00:50:00,119
What are we doing to como after
these ads? Three two welcome back in

688
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:05,039
It's season two episode seventy three of
Clips and Dip, I'm out of Masland.

689
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:08,199
We got Chuck Mockler and Will Updyke. As we do the Danis Scully

690
00:50:08,320 --> 00:50:15,519
like autopsy on this Clipper season and
short lived playoff run. I want to

691
00:50:15,519 --> 00:50:20,280
believe that the Clippers window is not
shut in the two and three era,

692
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:25,159
but guys, h I think it
starts with Kawhi Leonard. If he's not

693
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:30,119
available, they can't win a championship. So can he ever be available?

694
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:37,239
Apparently he's playing for Team USA this
summer. He's scheduled too, but we

695
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,960
don't know after inflammation for over a
month, what could come out with the

696
00:50:42,039 --> 00:50:45,920
right knee. When he looked way
worse in Game three after trying to play

697
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:50,800
through it game in game two of
this series, How concerning is it to

698
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:54,519
you because the one thing agree,
well, yeah, but three is an

699
00:50:54,599 --> 00:50:59,320
all time low for me as a
Clippers fan, not even the loss,

700
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,920
just like the way and I again, I don't blame Kawhi. Obviously,

701
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,800
you know he was doing he was
doing his best out there, like I

702
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:08,280
give him all the credit in the
world, But watching that game and where

703
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:12,719
he was at, that was an
all time low for me as a fan.

704
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,239
I don't think he should have played, to be honest, or at

705
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,679
least after the first stint when you
saw him out there not being able to

706
00:51:17,719 --> 00:51:22,159
dribble the basketball, that was crazy. That was why you brought it up

707
00:51:22,199 --> 00:51:24,559
with that hanging on the rim because
he didn't want to like like take the

708
00:51:24,639 --> 00:51:29,920
impact down on his knees, Like
dude, that I don't know that scarred

709
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,719
me. That scarred me, to
be perfectly honest with you, it hurt

710
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:37,119
to watch. And I had a
really I had a really depressing thought about

711
00:51:37,119 --> 00:51:43,840
the Clippers before Game five when we
were at UH Staples. I was watching

712
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:50,400
the pregame stuff like the just the
pop and the they're shooting the T shirts

713
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:54,360
and they're they're doing the announcements,
and it just felt like watch it was

714
00:51:54,400 --> 00:52:01,679
like like watching a fake, like
stage production. It just didn't feel that

715
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:09,360
any of what we wanted to happen
was possible or just even within reach.

716
00:52:09,519 --> 00:52:16,039
Because a Kauhi was hurt, we
had seen some incredibly just rough performances in

717
00:52:16,159 --> 00:52:20,000
terms of you know, accountability and
and stuff like that, and it just

718
00:52:20,159 --> 00:52:24,039
felt like a house of cards,
Like I was just watching something where and

719
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,679
I and this was this was a
very I was just like I'd never felt

720
00:52:27,679 --> 00:52:30,079
that watching the Clippers to this extent
before, but it was just like none

721
00:52:30,119 --> 00:52:34,880
of this is like I'm watching the
Knicks. I mean, imagine guy like

722
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,519
Isaiah Hernstein was still on this team. We'd be having a completely different conversation

723
00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:40,559
and you're just and I was just
watching it was just like this ship is

724
00:52:40,639 --> 00:52:45,800
just like it's a sick joke.
Yeah, I think they can win,

725
00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:52,599
but it's just not it's all so
fragile. Not to get nihilsiolistic with it,

726
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,719
but it's all it was. It's
just too fragile to work. It's

727
00:52:55,760 --> 00:53:00,440
too fragile to work. What's happened
with Kauhi is like the fate from basketball

728
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:05,239
gods, year in and year out, especially this season. Last year too,

729
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,719
with how good he looked heading into
that series against Phoenix and then doing

730
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:12,719
the meniscus in Game two after he
had won them game one, but sixty

731
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,280
eight games this year couldn't have looked
better. Most dumbs he had had in

732
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:22,079
a season was all the way back, and then some from the ACL tear

733
00:53:22,079 --> 00:53:24,719
in twenty twenty one. Everything he
was saying all year long, with the

734
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:29,519
messaging of I want to take this
team to a place they've never been before,

735
00:53:30,119 --> 00:53:32,400
and how it just seemed like there
was unfinished business and this was it

736
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:37,800
and Kawhi was going to get them
there and looked very capable of doing so.

737
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:40,320
Thought he should have finished top five
and MVP. I don't know where

738
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,760
it ended up, but he didn't
finish top three, obviously, and some

739
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:45,639
of that was just because he was
out at the end of the year.

740
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:49,719
Uh and the Clippers had that two
months soon where they were about five hundred.

741
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:55,280
But Kawhid never looked better, literally
had never looked better. For him

742
00:53:55,320 --> 00:54:00,400
to get hurt after the Charlotte game
and to only get two more opportunities and

743
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:06,480
look like a shell of himself in
a playoff series. It's on one hand,

744
00:54:06,519 --> 00:54:08,320
I don't know if this is cognitive
dissonance. On one hand, it's

745
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:14,199
completely unbelievable. On the other it's
completely predictable, like, yeah, anything

746
00:54:14,199 --> 00:54:16,639
that can't go wrong will go wrong
for the Clippers. And this is part

747
00:54:16,679 --> 00:54:20,519
of the curse talk and everything,
which of course I don't believe in.

748
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,719
It's just he's got a bad right
leg, right knee, whatever it is.

749
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:30,719
And what I worry about is obviously
this injury. You isolate that I'm

750
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:38,239
concerned because they compound and it takes
more off of him, and there's you

751
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:43,440
know, even a worst chance that
he comes back looking like himself like he

752
00:54:43,519 --> 00:54:50,039
had been. But this team in
general is gotten so old. And I'm

753
00:54:50,079 --> 00:54:54,079
watching this game yesterday between the Timberwolves
and the Denver Nuggets, and I'm thinking

754
00:54:54,119 --> 00:55:00,639
to myself, these stars are able
to have the same pop in the first

755
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:05,320
quarter as they had in the fourth
quarter. Where the Clippers don't just age

756
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,880
as a series moves along, they
age in the same game from the start

757
00:55:09,159 --> 00:55:15,440
to the finish, where they can't
make the same basketball movements. Whereas Jokis

758
00:55:15,519 --> 00:55:19,119
has the most unbelievable cardio I guess
because he's in Denver. For a guy

759
00:55:19,159 --> 00:55:22,639
that size, he never seems to
get tired. Ant's twenty two and has

760
00:55:22,639 --> 00:55:25,800
as much bounce in the fourth quarter
as he does in the first as a

761
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:30,719
KD with that dunk and shoots,
and he shoots the damn ball, mid

762
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:37,360
range, defense, everything. Jamal
Murray's still relatively young and obviously a killer

763
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:40,400
in fourth quarters. That's where he
plays his best. And then Paul George

764
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,159
has fourteen points in the first half
in Game six and four in the second

765
00:55:44,159 --> 00:55:49,199
half and look gassed by the third
quarter, Like how do you overcome this

766
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:54,039
stuff? It's a young man's league. Even if all these guys are healthy,

767
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:59,320
they still have an age factor you
have to worry about where they slow

768
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:04,280
down as the game goes along,
unlike these other stars. That's what really

769
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:09,519
concerns me. Yeah, I'm I'm
interested to see what your one positive takeaways

770
00:56:09,559 --> 00:56:17,119
later when we on this show.
And again, if you're wondering if we're

771
00:56:17,119 --> 00:56:22,079
gonna get information about and we as
in Clippers fans, whatever, there's no

772
00:56:22,119 --> 00:56:28,000
exit interviews. If Lawrence Frank decides
to do a press conference and talk about

773
00:56:28,039 --> 00:56:31,159
contract extensions, that's what we'll hear. But do you guys want Kawhi to

774
00:56:31,159 --> 00:56:37,559
play fors No, I would be
pissed off, and not not like at

775
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,119
Kawhi. I would be pissed off
at the luck of it all. I

776
00:56:40,159 --> 00:56:43,119
would be like for Kawhi, I'm
like, yeah, you want to win

777
00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:45,559
a gold medal, I'll go win
a gold medal whenever. Cool, But

778
00:56:45,639 --> 00:56:52,199
I'm like the luck of it would
it would make me upset at whatever defines

779
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:53,920
our luck, the big crow,
god in the sky or whatever. Like

780
00:56:54,039 --> 00:56:59,960
I it would just hurt. I
think maybe it's a better way to screen

781
00:57:00,039 --> 00:57:07,199
as a Clippers fan, right,
I mean, I just should he you

782
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:10,000
know, like him missed a month
of the regular season, Like he missed

783
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:15,119
a month of the regular season and
playoffs. I would say, you know,

784
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:20,719
maybe take three months just completely off
or like as off as you can

785
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:23,199
be from contact to try to get
right or you know, or is it

786
00:57:23,239 --> 00:57:28,719
a situation where like keeping you know, bodies in motion stay in motion.

787
00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:31,679
I don't know, but I would
say like if he wasn't right to end

788
00:57:31,679 --> 00:57:37,920
this and seemingly outside of games,
had no on court contact there for a

789
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:44,480
month. You know, the off
season isn't that long, especially when you're

790
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:51,119
you know, thirty four. I
hurt somebody on the San Antonio Spurs or

791
00:57:51,159 --> 00:57:54,079
former players said this recently that he
would tell I think it was the Spurs.

792
00:57:54,119 --> 00:58:01,480
He would tell Tim Duncan and Manu
and Tony Parker to not play during

793
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:07,320
the offseason for their countries because he
wanted them, you know, fully loaded

794
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:13,440
and not gas by the time the
regular season starts. Sorry, no,

795
00:58:13,519 --> 00:58:15,639
I don't know. If I don't
know who it was, it was an

796
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:21,000
ancillary teammate. May not even be
the Spurs. The idea of you don't

797
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,440
play for your country or play because
Kawhy said before he doesn't play five on

798
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:29,280
five basketball during the summer, and
I'm guessing that is because that leaves you

799
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:34,719
more open and more prone to injury. It's harder work out there. I

800
00:58:34,719 --> 00:58:40,320
mean, I'm having play. Yeah. I I'm glad Paul George, I'm

801
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:44,840
glad for him. If that's one
of his goals to get the gold medal

802
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,320
and stuff, and I'm intrigued to
see how he looks out there if he's

803
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:53,039
able to go. But I have
seen a lot of negative sentiment overall sentiment

804
00:58:53,079 --> 00:58:59,119
from fans regarding this because it just
feels like, damn man, we haven't

805
00:58:59,119 --> 00:59:04,000
had him in the last four years
to finish a playoff run, and that's

806
00:59:04,039 --> 00:59:07,880
more wear and tearing your body.
But you know, it's an individual decision

807
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,760
by Kawhi and it's an honor to
play for your country and all that,

808
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:14,559
So it's hard to critique it,
of course, and I honestly want to

809
00:59:14,559 --> 00:59:16,679
see how he looks. Yeah,
I wouldn't critique it depending on how he

810
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:22,519
looks. Obviously he's healthy. Go. I mean, do your thing,

811
00:59:22,760 --> 00:59:28,159
do your thing. Regard it's an
individual decision. I'm just kind of reading

812
00:59:28,159 --> 00:59:30,719
the room and getting the pulse of
Flipper nation throughout all this on Twitter and

813
00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:37,079
on phone calls, and there's just
obviously you lose the way they did.

814
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:40,880
Overall, things are going to be
negative right now, but it is hard

815
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:46,639
to find positives at the moment of
how you can salvage this era and still

816
00:59:46,639 --> 00:59:51,239
have a chance to win a championship, right, that's the goal still,

817
00:59:51,559 --> 00:59:53,840
right, Like, I don't want
to see a zombie two to three era

818
00:59:54,000 --> 01:00:00,000
where they're not even competing or it's
just trying to be the eighth seed and

819
01:00:00,039 --> 01:00:02,599
get in the plan. Like,
if they keep this together, it's to

820
01:00:02,719 --> 01:00:08,800
still be a contender, it's to
still be a top six seed. But

821
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:14,440
man, the NBA moves fast,
and Okay sees young game better and Minnesota

822
01:00:14,519 --> 01:00:17,000
is getting better, although they have
some salary cap issues coming up this summer.

823
01:00:17,159 --> 01:00:23,000
But there's a lot of teams in
the Western Conference, especially that you

824
01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:28,480
have to compete with where you know, I don't want to believe that twenty

825
01:00:28,559 --> 01:00:32,599
twenty one was it and that was
their window and Kawhi's tearing of the ACL

826
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:39,159
was really when we look back on
this, the end of everything right now,

827
01:00:39,159 --> 01:00:44,039
though, I think it's fair to
say this era is completely defined by

828
01:00:44,079 --> 01:00:49,079
injuries and it sucks, and people
are saying Lob City was better than this,

829
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,320
and that's that's just crazy. I
can't believe we're at this point.

830
01:00:53,800 --> 01:00:59,320
It's so unfortunate. It's so cool. Basketball gods, please hear us,

831
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:05,039
hear us, Basketball gods, uh, for you are our only hope.

832
01:01:05,239 --> 01:01:08,000
Yeah, I don't know. Will
uh do you have anything? I mean,

833
01:01:08,079 --> 01:01:12,000
I know it's it's been tough.
I feel like this was a nice

834
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:15,920
way to process all that bullshit that
happened. Do you have anything else before

835
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:21,280
we head out for this week of
the first week of no Clippers basketball.

836
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:34,000
Uh, let's let let's let's just
take some time to to sort of relax

837
01:01:34,039 --> 01:01:37,880
and recuperate. I think, you
know, I still think there are some

838
01:01:38,079 --> 01:01:44,000
options and like Adam said, I
mean there is still a pathway where they

839
01:01:44,039 --> 01:01:49,119
stay just competitive enough that if you
can keep your if you can keep Kawai

840
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:54,920
healthy, and whichever of the other
uh two you have on the rosters where

841
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:59,000
you know it's it's not crazy.
I mean you look at Denver like they

842
01:01:59,079 --> 01:02:01,719
kept running back. I'll be the
younger team. But you know, there

843
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:06,800
is someone to be said about continuity. Sure, there is something to be

844
01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,440
said. That's the slogan for next
year. There's something to be said about

845
01:02:09,480 --> 01:02:15,800
continuity. Clippers twenty four, twenty
five. I love what your point about

846
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:21,519
resting and relaxing. If everyone could
as the opportunity to go catch a fish,

847
01:02:22,199 --> 01:02:24,320
I would say you should go do
that. Drop a line in the

848
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:30,320
water see you get any bites.
We are going to be back next week.

849
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:32,159
We also have a new fun thing
we're doing in the off season that

850
01:02:32,199 --> 01:02:36,800
we haven't even told the people about
yet. That might be the most positive

851
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:42,199
part of this offseason, which is
we are going to be doing dip reviews

852
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:46,599
in the off season. Enough people
have yelled at us about this, so

853
01:02:46,679 --> 01:02:52,280
you're getting it. You're getting at
least one chip review dip review. Excuse

854
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,280
me. I know Adam's excited.
Will has had some trepidations. He's made

855
01:02:55,320 --> 01:03:00,960
his feelings known very vocally. But
maybe the maybe let's tears the group apart,

856
01:03:01,079 --> 01:03:06,199
maybe it brings us closer. Who
knows, We'll be back next week,

857
01:03:06,239 --> 01:03:08,800
Will. Where could everyone find our
content if they want to watch us

858
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:13,119
go through some pretty rough stages of
grief. You can watch all of our

859
01:03:13,159 --> 01:03:15,119
lives from the first series, which
is a good Yeah. Absolutely, you

860
01:03:15,119 --> 01:03:20,960
can watch somever at YouTube dot com
slash at Clippers podcast. We bring these

861
01:03:21,039 --> 01:03:23,440
videos to you. We go live. Who knows we might do a surprise

862
01:03:23,559 --> 01:03:28,719
live in the off season or something. Well, that's the best way to

863
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:30,159
find us. You can also listen
to us forever you get your podcast.

864
01:03:30,239 --> 01:03:35,440
We're on Spotify, Apple Podcasts to
your deezer. So yeah, whoever,

865
01:03:35,679 --> 01:03:38,159
whoever you check us out, do
stay with us through the off season.

866
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:43,320
Yeah, they won't all be they
won't all be downer pods. It won't

867
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,800
all be like this. It will
get better in three hundred and sixty five

868
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:50,760
days. However, we may have
a very similar pod depending how this roster

869
01:03:50,840 --> 01:03:55,360
looks. But before we get out
of here, let's give those Clippers fans

870
01:03:55,400 --> 01:04:03,800
just one positive thing, could be
about anything. Yeah, please please into

871
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:09,800
it Dome, into it Dome.
The next game they play will be at

872
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:14,760
the end of it Dome. That
will be incredible. I'm very much looking

873
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:18,199
forward to that. I'm looking forward
to Clipper Nation finally having their own home

874
01:04:19,159 --> 01:04:25,360
and really being able to get comfortable
in their own home. You know,

875
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:29,000
I think it's going to make a
big difference. The wall is going to

876
01:04:29,079 --> 01:04:33,840
be awesome, the high tech ingenuity
that they're going to have there with the

877
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:39,280
louder you are, the more discounts
you'll get in things like that Chuck Mark,

878
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,760
everything else. It's going to be
really cool. It's going to be

879
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:48,800
a very eventful time. And they
have guys. You have Steve Balmer,

880
01:04:49,079 --> 01:04:54,519
you have Steve Balmer. With Steve
Balmer, there's hope. This is a

881
01:04:54,559 --> 01:04:58,119
franchise that in some ways has only
been around for ten years since he became

882
01:04:58,159 --> 01:05:01,599
the owner in twenty fourteen. I
tend to look at things that way.

883
01:05:01,719 --> 01:05:05,800
Sometimes there's been a lot of heartbreak
in these ten years, but if you

884
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:10,320
look at it as they started things
off with Steve Palmer, there's also been

885
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:14,800
a lot of success and he's gonna
do whatever it takes to get to the

886
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:18,800
top of the mountain. I believe
it's gonna happen someday. And look,

887
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:25,920
twenty six and five was not nothing. If you want to make the argument

888
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:30,159
that run it back and you have
that built in continuity, maybe you're a

889
01:05:30,199 --> 01:05:35,480
fifty five win team with good health
next year and you're right smack dab in

890
01:05:35,519 --> 01:05:40,440
the middle of being a contender in
the Western Conference again. And if just

891
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:44,039
one of these times Kawhi Leonard could
be healthy, could be all it takes.

892
01:05:44,719 --> 01:05:48,000
I hope that is what happens.
We hope that is what happens too.

893
01:05:48,039 --> 01:05:50,320
I know that was very difficult for
you, Adam. Thank you for

894
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:57,679
giving us the positive vibes. We'll
be back next week with some dips and

895
01:05:57,920 --> 01:06:00,880
yeah, probably talking some off season
grades, all that good stuff. I

896
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:01,679
hope everyone has a good week and
as always