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everyone, thanks so much for joining
us for this special livestream episode of the

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show. If you caught Friday Night
Show, you listen to our guest Joe

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come on and tell us about the
horrible Dogman Encounters that she had well on

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tonight's show, She's come back to
talk about those encounters. I've got several

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questions I want to ask her,
and if you're in the live chat and

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have questions for her, she's going
to be on hand to answer your questions

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as well. But having said that, without further ado, let's bring Joe

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on now. Joe, thanks so
much for coming back. Hi, Thank

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you, Vick, Hi everybody.
I'm glad that you came back. You

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talk about a fan favorite, Joe. When people listen to what you unfortunately

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were made to bear with your encounters, it really tugged at their heartstrings.

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When you check out the comments on
Friday Night Show, that's immediately evident.

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So I'm sure you've read through those
comments haven't you from that show? I

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read through those, and I tell
you I was crying through most of them,

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and for the first time, it
was happy tears that I was crying.

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I don't think I've ever felt that
much love and support in my entire

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life. And there are no words
to thank you guys for being such a

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wonderful group of people. I love
you all. I told you they're amazing

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people, absolutely amazing, and also
touching on how amazing they are when they

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heard about the situation you're in.
You're a living situation. The latest the

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latest time I looked in on your
GoFundMe page, I think the total was

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four thousand, seven hundred and sixty
five, So you're literally this was about

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maybe half an hour or so ago. You're literally, at least back then,

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you were only two hundred and thirty
five dollars away from reaching that five

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thousand dollars goal. I don't even
know what to say. All the people

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out there who have chipped in to
help support Joe, and also people who

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who didn't have the means to chip
in and give a donation, but you

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supported her with your words and support. I don't know what to say.

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I just don't know what to say. All I can say is thank you

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so much. I've been telling Joe
about how amazing you are and how supportive

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you are, but I just couldn't
do it justice. The only thing I

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could do to give her a taste
of what I was talking about was just

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to let her see with her own
two eyes what I was telling her about

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you. And Wow, like I
said, I just I don't know what

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to say. I can't thank you
enough. Thank you so much. I

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really do appreciate it. Joe.
For anyone who missed Friday Night Show,

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can you give them a brief rundown
on why you came on the show in

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the first place. I came on
to talk about a dog man encounter that

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actually was more than one time.
It kept coming back, I guess to

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torture me, to stalk me,
and in the end I felt to hunt

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me. And I had kept it
in pin and for all these years,

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and it was just eating me alive. I didn't know what it was called.

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I didn't know if it was a
demon from hell. I didn't know

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if it was awarewolf. But I
thought those rolling in the movies, and

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I started hearing about people like you
who had podcasts and they were calling them

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dog men, and so I started
listening and learning and it, I mean,

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it just lined up that, you
know, all of the descriptions that

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they were saying. I was going, God, that is really what it

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was. And so the fact that
I could put a name to it helped

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quite a bit too. And then
just listening to more people share their encounters

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and how they were doing well and
dealing with it, and they weren't feeling

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the shame of saying anything. They
were being brave and sharing it, you

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know, not being afraid to say
something and have somebody make fun of them.

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And they all were wonderful and they'd
made me feel a lot stronger about

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doing it. And then I had
the wonderful, wonderful chance of meeting with

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you, and you were so great
and supportive. And that first night,

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as I was telling you, you
know how terrified I was, and I

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was afraid I was going to have
another nightmare that night because we were talking

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about it. You said, I'm
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you to listen. If it wanted
to kill you, it would have done

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it. And you just kind of
made me have to sit back and go,

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well, yeah, I guess walking
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is kind of overkilled, because you're
right, it would have got me already.

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And that was kind of the start
of my healing. And then you

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introduced me to a wonderful angel named
Anne who worked with me on it and

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is going to continue teaching me how
to do lucid dreams so I can take

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control of those nightmares and get on
top of that too. And I just

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felt like I was maybe having a
chance at a new life. And then

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with everybody's wonderful contributions that they've done, I know I'm getting ready to have

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a new life. So I may
be living in a house that's not slowly

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killing me and my daughter, and
maybe we can even get back part of

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our health. And it's all thanks
to you wonderful people. Thank you so

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much, and thank you vic.
Oh you're welcome. You're more than welcome.

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I told you how wonderful they are. I told you, and again

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everyone listening who has given support to
Joe, like I said, whether it's

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financial and supportive by your words the
comments you've been leaving, or if it's

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been a matter of just leaving supportive
comments. I can't thank you enough.

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I just I, like I said, I just don't know what to say

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being thank you so much. Here
we are less than forty eight hours away

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from that show, and here we've
already almost met her goal of five thousand

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dollars. She said that she thought
she would only need two thousand, but

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it's always more expensive to move to
do things like that than what you expect.

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So I thought, for Unforesenes,
I thought, well, maybe it

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would be best to post a goal
of five thousand. And I thought,

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okay, that's a lofty goal.
But here we are less than forty eight

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hours away from that, and we've
almost met that goal already. I mean,

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wow, I just I don't know
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know what to say, except for, like I said, thank you so

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much. I really appreciate it.
So yeah, I'm going to beat a

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dead horse there, I admit it, but I can't. I'm going to

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thank you again too, But I
just really appreciate you supporting her the way

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you have. And I think that
was your wisdom, Vic for sitting that

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at five thousand, because like I
told you, that seemed so lovely for

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me to even ask for that,
But I didn't I don't have a refrigerator

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or a stove, or a warsher
or dryer. They came with this house,

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and both the worsher dryer has needed
repairs, and she told me too

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bad, and so I always wonder
if they're going to keep working. But

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the house that I'm wanting to move
into doesn't have them. Well, I

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thought, if I sold enough at
my furniture, I could buy a refrigerator

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that I could use my electric skillet, my crop pot and my little toaster

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oven and make that as a stove. And then it started hitting me,

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I might have enough left over if
this thing really went to five thousand that

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I could buy maybe a cheap refrigerator
and cheap stove and a worsher and dryer

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so that my daughter who's filling ill
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a hot laundry mat and do it. I think you guys have blessed us

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to the point that that's going to
maybe be possible, you know, when

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we hit the five thousand. So
thank you again, and thank you for

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your looking ahead Vick and knowing that
I had no idea how expensive things were.

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So it's just been amazing and I
think I have found somebody to help

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move me for fifteen hundred and so
it's all going to just every bit of

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it's going to be used for this. And thank you so much, guys,

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it's been so much fun listening to
peace after peace just fall into place

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in your life. When we first
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like you're doing pretty well. And
then as I would check back in on

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you, you were doing well when
you're awake, but when you would try

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to sleep, you have those nightmare
issues. And that's why I referred you

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over to Anne. Joe mentioned Anne
and what she's doing helping Joe learn how

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to lucid dream so that she doesn't
have to deal with these horrible night tears

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anymore. And I guess some would
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anyway as it is. But Ann
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not all angels have wings. I
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help by witnesses out for me who
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dogged me and related nightmares and whatnot, and turns that around so that

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these eyewitnesses can sleep and as Joe
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with her the first night after she
had that long conversation with Ann. How

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long did you two talk that first
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half hours. Three and a half
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no wonder you slept so well,
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the next day, you said you
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Actually, wasn't that the night The
morning when I sent you a message and

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I woke you up, you were
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My body had finally thought, oh, we can sleep, and I was

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loving it. But it's okay since
it was you, I thought. I

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thought, on no, here,
she's sleeping like a rock. And I

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woke her up sending her a message. But yeah, I'm glad that you're

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You're back to sleeping the way you
should now. Thank goodness for that.

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Just knowing that when you're awake,
you're good to go. When you're asleep,

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now you're good to go. And
before you know it, you're going

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to be moving into your You say
you found a house, Well, like

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I keep telling you, it's your
house. Before you know what, you're

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going to be moving into your house. Now. I had to keep saying

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a house, because I wasn't sure
I was going to pull it off,

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but I can now I can call
it mine. That's right, that's right,

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it's your house. Now you've got
the means to move in. It's

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just a matter of time before you're
actually in it and away from the horrible

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problems with that black mold and that
horrible landlord you have to deal with,

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which I wasn't going to touch on
this. This is a question that's one

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of those take it or leave it
deals. Joe, there's no pressure to

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answer this, but I'm sure from
looking at all the comments that have been

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left in reference to Friday Night show, I'm sure you've noticed all the comments

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from people hoping that you go after
that landlord to sue. Now, there's

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no pressure, like I said,
to answer this, but if you do

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decide that you want to pursue some
type of legal action, just let me

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know and I could put the word
out to see if anyone that listens to

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the show might happen to be an
attorney based in Kansas who might be able

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to help you, who might be
interested in helping you. That would be

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wonderful because after reading everything everyone was
saying and I'm such a passive person.

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It really takes a lot for me
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to speak. But you know,
they were all back in me and saying,

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hey, you can't let her get
by with this. And so I

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do plan on contacting an attorney.
I'm going to see how much I have

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left over on the GoFundMe to get
me started with it. As one listener

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said, and it's so ring home. You know, she's wanting me out

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of here, and she's wanting to
sell it now. She's wanting to sell

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this death trap to somebody, and
what if they have kids and things that

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would even succumb to that black mole
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You know, I was a patient
advocate. I stood up for people

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as a nurse. I'm still going
to do that now. I'm not going

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to let her hurt anybody else.
I'm just not going to let her do

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it. Good. Thank you everybody
support. Good for you. I'm so

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glad you're going to do that.
But you know, there could be certain

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circumstances where you might decide that's not
your best interest. I mean, I

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don't know. There are a lot
of things about your life that I don't

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know that might be affected by you
trying to do that. So that's why

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I was trying to hammer home the
fact that you know, if you want

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to comment yeah, your name,
it's totally up to you on that.

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But moving forward, Joe, when
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I focused on trying to resolve those
issues you're dealing with when you were awake.

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Like I said a bit ago,
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problems you were dealing with though when
you're awake. Before we spoke that first

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time, oh ooh, okay,
I had just constant Trump in my head,

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just thinking about it all the time. Even if I was like involved

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watching a movie, I would notice
that thought was coming in. You know,

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are you have you made sure all
the doors are locked? You know,

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are all the curtains pulled? Are
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it could get your scent? I
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I went through after this happened to
me. You know. It was that

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I went and bought a house on
contract so that I could make changes to

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it. And one of the first
things I did is it it had two

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beautiful trees on either side of the
sidewalk up onto the porch. I had

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them cut down. I hated that
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afraid it would come down out of
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me. I couldn't even stand that's
there. I had four locks on every

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door. I had six locks on
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could come through, I thought maybe
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it and maybe get my daughter running
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blackout curtains for people who you know, work nice and have to sleep during

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the day. I had those up
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were pulled shut all the time,
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my shadow of where I was walking. But more than likely it could have

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done it with the scent or even
their sound. The way the ears turned

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independently of each other. It was
just like it had unbelievable stereo sound and

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its hearings, so it probably would
have heard me. But I had those

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pulled all the time so that maybe
it couldn't see and come through that way.

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My daughter, bless her heart,
she knew she couldn't play outside.

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We didn't decorate our house at Christmas
times. That would have us outside.

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We didn't go out and make a
snowman. That would have us outside.

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My daughter, she's forty four now, and if I would say the words

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to her right now, quickly and
quietly, she would kind of give a

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little shudder. And that's because she
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Therefore she became terrified of the night, which is sad. And I when

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we ever started to get out of
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and I would say quickly and quietly, and she'd say it with me.

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And how many little kids do you
know? They can get out of a

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car and run up to the front
door and never make a sound. That's

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how good she was at it.
And she would get between me and the

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door, and she knew her job
was to look around my side to tell

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me if something was coming. Can
you imagine what that would have done to

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her had she saw that dog man
coming what it looked like. But she

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was the only alarm I was going
to have. And I was reaching around

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her to unlock the door. So
if it it came and attacked, it

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got my body first, and maybe
it would leave her alone. Maybe somehow

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she could she could get run,
you know, run and be free of

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it. I mean, it was
it was just awful. You know.

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I took jobs that didn't pay as
much as a nurse because I had to

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have like doctor our nurses, so
uh exees me doctor hours as a nurse

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so that I could be in before
dark. It just took over everything with

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my mind. It was so sad
and you know, and I it just

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got where it was almost this reflex
for me to think about those things,

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and it almost made me, you
know, like a compulsive disorder where I

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had to keep going back and checking
the locks, checking the locks, and

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make sure before I could even lay
down and sleep. I had nine to

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one one. I think they thought
I was kind of crazy. But we

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set up a code and they had
a word and my name was up there

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by the phone. If I called
and said this word, they knew the

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address, and they knew that I
was being attacked and probably was going to

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be being killed, and so they
were to send somebody quickly. I didn't

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even want to be on the phone
long enough to be describing that. I

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wanted to be grabbing my daughter and
I had a little place out in a

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closet I had put to try to
pull things in front of us, and

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I went in there with her and
they knew where they would find us.

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It was just terrible. Seasonal depression
set in. Why because in the wintertime

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it gets dark quicker, and so
my anxiety level would just go up that

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way. I mean, I had
to to fight it more, and I

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went to the doctor. I started
having panic attacks. I couldn't breathe.

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Oh, they were horrible, and
they'd make you feel numb, like you

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were going to pass out. And
I thought, boy, I can have

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this happening. I've got to,
you know, be alert all the time

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for my daughter's safety. And so
the doctor put me in an antidepressant.

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It really wasn't happened or it wasn't
really helping, and I didn't want to

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go up on a higher dose.
So he asked me to go see,

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you know, somebody for outside counseling. So I started that and they did

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a test on me for PTSD and
he came back in and looked at me

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kind of funny, and he said, have you ever done any service?

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And I said service? He said, like army navy. I said no,

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sir. He said, huh,
you score high enough on as a

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PTSD like someone who's seen a live
action like you've been exposed to areas that

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your life could have been threatened for
a long period of time. You were

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on a high alert. He said, can you tell me why that is?

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And I said, no, sir, I cannot because, if you

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guys, remember on Friday night when
we talked about it, my boyfriend and

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I made a vow, we made
a pinky square to never tell anybody about

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it because they think we were crazy
or maybe it would bring it back to

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attack us. And so I couldn't
tell him, and so he got really

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upset with me and said he was
going to quit seeing me if I didn't

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open up, and I said,
well, I'm sorry, I can't.

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So he wrote on my diagnosis battered
wife syndrome, that wasn't the case at

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all, that I couldn't you tell
him what it was, And so he

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contacted my doctor and he was saying, oh no, that's not that's not

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her. I know her. Now
you got it wrong. If you guys,

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remember on Friday night, I told
you the hair would stand up on

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the back of my neck and it
was like my body learned. Oh no,

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it's coming. I would still get
that, and I would automatically just

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go no, no, no,
no, no, you know, and

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I'd be looking around frantically. I
wouldn't see it, but something told me

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that it was still around. It
was still keeping tabs on me, and

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I wasn't sure why it wasn't coming
on up and you know, making itself

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known like it had. But I
often wondered if he showed up to see

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our daughter, would that make it
mad like it did when he grabbed my

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arm, because I saw the change
in its eyes that night. It was

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anger, and I told him you
could never be within ten feet of me.

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I think it will attack us.
I'm not sure why, but I

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just don't think it likes you at
all. And so, you know,

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she grew up telling people that she
never saw her mom and dad in the

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same room ever, and it's probably
one of the few kids that can say

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that from a broken home. But
they never did. And so the fact

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that I felt like it was watching
me, you know, from a distance,

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I think also played into me starting
to have the panic attacks they started

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having because I didn't know when it
was going to decide, Okay, that's

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long enough, I'm coming but thank
god it didn't. And so that's how

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it has affected me and still had
you know up till now, you poor

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thing. No one should have to
go through all that. That is absolutely

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horrible. I'm so glad that you
came to terms with your encounters, But

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how easy or difficult was it for
you to come to terms with them after

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that first conversation or two we had. Oh well, I forgot one other

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things, if you bear with me
here. Also during that time, I

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started contacting different faiths and asking,
you know, Catholic priest, that,

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Baptist pastors, Pentecostal pastors, you
know, have you guys ever known anything

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like this? Could this be some
kind of a demon, because remember I

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hadn't met you and had the term
dog man. Yet I had them coming

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over. One did exorcism on the
house. One tried to do an exorcism

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on me because I told him I
had heard the words when I was first

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starting to look up at it.
If you look at it in the eyes,

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it's going to come into you.
So I didn't know if that was

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possession or into the house. They
were, you know, anointing the windows

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and doors with oil, saying maybe
it couldn't pass across that. Now they

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had me wearing cross necklaces, across
bracelets, cross rings. I mean,

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I was trying everything I could think
of to help, and you know,

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praying protection over. I was burning
sage every week in the house, so

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I you know, I had every
avenue. And so then after I talked

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to you and you gave me that
insight about you know, I'm kind of

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overreacting now. I'm it's my own
worst enemy because of it going to kill

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me. It would have done it. It was kind of hard for me

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to think I had been mountain climbing
a molehill all this time. But this

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guy sounds like he knows what he's
talking about. Could it be that simple?

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Could I be able to actually do
that? And I don't know that.

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There's something about your voice, and
I'm sure your listeners think that too.

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It's so calming and it's so soothing
that you know, you're just like

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a warm blanket being put on somebody
that's just shaking from a chill they can't

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get over. And I thank you
for your your kindness and your patience.

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It comes through and your voice and
in your actions. And that first night

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when I actually got some sleep,
I was amazed, and I couldn't wait

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to tell you that next day.
Hey, I got sleep, I didn't

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have a nightmare. I don't remember
the last time I could have said that.

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And I just want to thank you
again because you know, that's what

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killed my ex husband, is that
every time he tried to go to sleep,

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he'd see those green glowing eyes,
you know, bearing it right into

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his soul. And that's why he
would drink, you know, or get

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wasted on pills. And it killed
me for and I just wasn't about to

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let that happen to both of her
parents, and so I put up with

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the nightmares. But I don't have
to now, thank you, and thanks

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to Ann. That's right. You
definitely don't have to you don't. Yeah,

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please don't forget that either. When
you first spoke with a promise,

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Oh, I'm sorry, what did
you say? I said, I promise

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you I will not forget great.
Yeah, I hope you never do,

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that's for sure. Due to the
problems Jill was still having with nightmares and

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night tears, that's why I referred
her over to Ann. If it was

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just a matter of okay, I
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With a little bit of time,
I would have just left it that

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and had confidence that, Okay,
she'll get better. But yeah, from

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what you told me about the problems
you're having with those nightmares and night tears,

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I thought, yeah, there's definitely
a problem here where she needs some

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serious help to overcome this. You
told us that you had nightmares and night

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tiers, but you didn't tell us
what the nature of the night tears were

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or the nightmares. Please go into
detail on that for us, Oh boyd

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okay, I'll give you example.
I have a few of the nightmares until

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it gets to where it's hard for
me to talk about it. One of

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them was that I would seem like
I was outside, I was busy doing

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something and I had forgotten the time, and it was getting dark on me,

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and I was trying to throw and
put everything up and try to get

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into the house. And it seemed
like the harder I tried to get there,

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the quicker it was becoming dark.
You know, at the further way

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the house seemed to be getting I
wasn't making it to it, and I

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was giving it everything I had,
And I got up to the front door,

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got my hand on the doorknob,
and it landed on the porch.

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With the left hand, it pinned
me down from the shoulders up. It

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took its feet with the claws,
and it buried it in to my you

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know, my left thigh, so
it had me pinned there. And then

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it leaned over me and with the
right hand the claws, it ripped my

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abdomen clear open, and as I'm
laying there screaming, it reach in pulled

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my intestines out and started eating them
in front of me. That would be

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the type of that. The next
time it might be my liver, but

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it was always I was being eaten
alive, and it was loving it.

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Another one would be that I was
going in to my bedroom to put laundry

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up, and I always had little
nightlights in every room at night so that

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my daughter and I could see.
And you know, like I said,

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the windows weren't going to let any
kind of light in. And I would

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be going in there with some laundry, was going to put it up in

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my chest of doors, and I
took and put the laundry up on top

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of it so I could open up
a drawer to put it in. And

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I realized, oh my god,
I just set the laundry onto something that

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shouldn't be up there. What is
this kind of hard? And so I

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leaned forward in the dark to look, and I recognized the shininess of the

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claws. It was its feet.
It was standing up on top of that,

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and it wrenched down and pulled me
up by the throat, clear up

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to where I was hanging in the
air, eye to eye with it,

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and it looked at me for a
minute, and then it just bit in

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and ripped my throat out. That
was another one that seemed to hit me

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all the time. Another one was
I would wake up in my bed,

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but you're still asleep, but you
think you really woke up, And as

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I would look over in the corner
would be two those yellowish green eyes glowing

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and shining up quite a bit,
and I would realize that it was in

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the room, and so I would
start screaming. And then I would actually

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be waking up and I would turn
on the light. The light switch was

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right above my head and it wasn't
even there, And then I realized it

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wasn't in the bedroom with me.
That I had just you know, dreamed

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that it was, so that that
would kind of scare me. Another one

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was that it's like I was in
an old, abandoned western town of some

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sort and it was chasing me,
and there wasn't anybody else around, and

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I was running into buildings and trying
to hide in different things, and all

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of a sudden, it would be
ahead of me, and I would think,

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oh my god. So I would
turn around and I would start running

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the other way, and it would
be in front of me again, and

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I would go cut and I thought, is it trying to wear me out?

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And I'm going back and forth and
each time, you know, I

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got lesser and lesser with the amount
that I was being able to run to

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until it was almost pinning me down. And then at the last minute two

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of them walked out. I realized
it hadn't been just one that I was

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trying to outrun the whole time.
It was two, and they'd been playing

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games with me, just kind of
feeding on my fear like an appetizer before

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they jumped me. And then that's
when both of them would jump on me

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and just start ripping me up.
I mean, the pain was just unbelievable

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of being just to our part while
you're still there, and that's kind of

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the essence of them, and I'm
starting to shake pretty hard, So I'm

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sorry. I don't think I can
say anymore right now. No, that's

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okay, I totally understand. Please
don't, for anyone listening, please imagine

410
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:23.160
for a second what it would be
like to know when you go to bed

411
00:32:23.200 --> 00:32:29.720
every night that that is waiting for
you. That's why I'm so glad that

412
00:32:30.000 --> 00:32:34.279
End's there and is so interested in
helping people the way she does. Someone

413
00:32:34.359 --> 00:32:37.519
asked in the comments section, well, what's End's last name? Why I

414
00:32:37.559 --> 00:32:39.079
don't put that out there. I'm
not too sure that she would want me

415
00:32:39.160 --> 00:32:44.359
to put it out there, so
I don't. But yeah, like I

416
00:32:44.400 --> 00:32:49.480
said, she is living proof that
not all angels have wings because she really

417
00:32:49.559 --> 00:32:52.440
is a miracle worker. I don't
know how she works for magic, but

418
00:32:52.920 --> 00:32:57.119
time after time with eyewitnesses who've had
a lot of trouble with dog Man related

419
00:32:58.119 --> 00:33:02.799
night tears and nightmares, what she
does teaching them and teaching you to Joe

420
00:33:02.960 --> 00:33:08.640
how to lucid dream. It works
time after time. It works. So

421
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:13.119
why ask why? I'm just so
glad that she is there and she does

422
00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:17.359
what she does, thank goodness,
teaches you to realize, Hey, this

423
00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:22.799
is a dream I'm dreaming. I
could become in charge of this. Now

424
00:33:22.880 --> 00:33:29.319
I'm the big bad wolf Inness and
I can control you, and that is

425
00:33:29.440 --> 00:33:35.519
really empowering. You know, that's
great, That is great. Yeah,

426
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:39.960
nothing to fear then, So that's
understandable. Joe, you told us Friday

427
00:33:40.079 --> 00:33:45.079
night that as a kid you weren't
allowed to express emotions the way most kids

428
00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:50.279
are allowed to. Did growing up
that environment suppress your fear response in your

429
00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:57.400
opinion, Well, I would guess
so, because I never thought that I

430
00:33:57.480 --> 00:34:04.160
could even become afraid. There I
was taught was a weakness. There was

431
00:34:04.160 --> 00:34:08.199
something that girls do. You know, guys don't do that. Guys are

432
00:34:08.239 --> 00:34:13.039
strong, Guys are tough, Guys
are worth something. And so I tried

433
00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:15.280
real hard, Like I said,
that's why I quit going by choice to

434
00:34:15.360 --> 00:34:20.519
Joe. You know, I was
trying so hard to show that I had

435
00:34:20.599 --> 00:34:23.599
worth and I could be just as
tough as them. So it probably did

436
00:34:24.280 --> 00:34:28.719
suppress it in a way in the
fact, by the way of since I

437
00:34:28.760 --> 00:34:34.199
didn't learn when I was young how
to deal with it appropriately, that when

438
00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:36.840
it did start happening to me,
I was at well, you know,

439
00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:40.599
I was lost. I had no
healthy ways of dealing with it. So

440
00:34:42.119 --> 00:34:46.159
at that point it probably was four
times or five times as bad as it

441
00:34:46.159 --> 00:34:50.960
would have been for somebody that you
know, Mom and Dad rocked them on

442
00:34:51.000 --> 00:34:52.760
their lap and said, you know, there's nothing to be afraid of them

443
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:57.440
right here. You know that's normal. I didn't get those things, So

444
00:34:57.920 --> 00:35:02.280
yeah, I think it definitely a
affected everything about the fear aspect of it.

445
00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:07.800
Oh, I'm sure it did.
And like I've told you several times

446
00:35:07.840 --> 00:35:10.960
before, I'm so sorry you had
to grow up experiencing things like that.

447
00:35:10.960 --> 00:35:15.960
That is horrible. In fact,
that reminds me of the one story you

448
00:35:16.000 --> 00:35:19.880
told me about the time when you
went home and asked your mom if she

449
00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:22.679
loved you? What story behind that? If you don't mind putting that out

450
00:35:22.679 --> 00:35:30.800
there. I had gotten off this
gold bus and I noticed a lady giving

451
00:35:30.840 --> 00:35:34.559
her daughter a hug, and she
said, I'll see you later, I

452
00:35:34.599 --> 00:35:37.440
love you, and gave her a
kiss on the forehead, and the little

453
00:35:37.480 --> 00:35:39.920
girl said I love you, and
I thought, now, wait a second,

454
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:45.320
I've never been told that that I'm
loved. My mom's never said that

455
00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:52.519
to me, and it bothered me
all day. And so I went home

456
00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:57.840
and I walked up to her,
and I was like ten at the time,

457
00:35:58.599 --> 00:36:02.519
and I said, I saw something
today and I told her, and

458
00:36:02.559 --> 00:36:06.000
I could tell she was kind of
getting a little agitated with me, and

459
00:36:06.079 --> 00:36:08.880
I said, I was just wondering, do you love me? And I

460
00:36:08.920 --> 00:36:12.639
started to kind of look up at
her, and I didn't even see it

461
00:36:12.679 --> 00:36:16.639
coming. Man, she hit me
so hard across the right side of my

462
00:36:17.239 --> 00:36:22.039
face. I guess it was open
hand, I don't know, but my

463
00:36:22.440 --> 00:36:24.360
head went to the left so hard
it felt like it sprung my neck.

464
00:36:25.159 --> 00:36:32.400
And she said, how dare you
insult me like that? How dare you

465
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:37.800
You have clothes on your back,
you have food in your stomach, and

466
00:36:37.840 --> 00:36:42.079
you have a bed to sleep in. If I didn't love you, you

467
00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:46.280
wouldn't have any of those things.
How dare you hurt me that way?

468
00:36:46.320 --> 00:36:51.920
How dare you say that? And
I felt so bad that I had hurt

469
00:36:51.960 --> 00:36:57.440
my mom uh that way, you
know, by being a horrible person and

470
00:36:57.559 --> 00:37:01.960
hurting her that I actually grew for
the way I treated her for probably two

471
00:37:02.000 --> 00:37:09.880
weeks, and so I just never
questioned anything after that. It. You

472
00:37:09.920 --> 00:37:15.960
know, I knew one time this
probably sounds bad to everybody, but I

473
00:37:16.079 --> 00:37:23.000
kind of knew what the emotion hate
felt like if I got physically hurt.

474
00:37:23.400 --> 00:37:28.639
You know, my mom would laugh. She thought it was funny, and

475
00:37:28.719 --> 00:37:31.440
I would hate that. I would
hate she did that, but I didn't

476
00:37:31.440 --> 00:37:39.559
think I hated her. Well,
when I was four, I saw on

477
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:45.599
a neighbor's TV and that you could
hang a stocking up at Christmas time and

478
00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:47.719
you get all kinds of candy.
And that was something I didn't get,

479
00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:52.760
and I thought wow. So I
went home, and you know, I

480
00:37:52.840 --> 00:37:55.159
wasn't dumb. I wasn't going to
get one of my little socks. I

481
00:37:55.199 --> 00:37:58.559
was going to get one of my
dad's socks. Now, I was going

482
00:37:58.639 --> 00:38:02.519
to have candy for the whole year. He had a size twelve foot And

483
00:38:02.719 --> 00:38:06.679
they asked me what I was doing, and I said, I'm going to

484
00:38:06.760 --> 00:38:09.920
have a stocking full of candy.
You know, Santa brings that to you.

485
00:38:10.440 --> 00:38:13.559
And they're all looking at each other, kind of funny. Well,

486
00:38:13.599 --> 00:38:17.679
I didn't realize that they were poor
and they didn't have money to get me

487
00:38:19.440 --> 00:38:22.320
a candy to fill up a sock. They didn't have money, which is

488
00:38:22.360 --> 00:38:27.400
why we didn't have a Christmas tree
and we didn't celebrate Christmas. You know,

489
00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:30.559
I didn't know that back then.
I thought it was from somebody that

490
00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:34.920
could afford it, I guess,
you know, or he just magically made

491
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:42.039
it. So I put the stocking
up against the front door, and I

492
00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:45.920
got up the next morning and I
went running out there and this stocking was

493
00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:50.480
stretched, Oh my gosh, so
full. And I looked up at my

494
00:38:50.559 --> 00:38:52.880
mom and my oldest brother. I
told you was always giving me a hard

495
00:38:52.920 --> 00:38:58.639
time, and I had this big
smile and they're trying not to giggle.

496
00:38:58.880 --> 00:39:01.320
And that should have been a warmant. But I grabbed it and turned it

497
00:39:01.480 --> 00:39:09.519
upside down and started shaking it expecting
all of this, and out flew potatoes

498
00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:19.480
and black eyed beans that weren't cooked, jet cigarettes, cigarette lighter, some

499
00:39:19.599 --> 00:39:23.800
rocks, you know, just strange
stuff. I mean, I couldn't believe

500
00:39:23.840 --> 00:39:27.639
what I was seeing. And I
stopped and I'm looking at that and I'm

501
00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:30.440
looking up kind of confused, and
they are just laughing, you know,

502
00:39:30.559 --> 00:39:35.760
like holding their side laughing. And
I think that's the first time I ever

503
00:39:35.800 --> 00:39:39.280
felt the emotion hate, actually hate
somebody, you know. I hated that

504
00:39:39.320 --> 00:39:44.679
they thought it was so funny that
I wasn't good enough to get, you

505
00:39:44.719 --> 00:39:50.360
know, the candy and my brother
said, see, even Santa doesn't like

506
00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:52.800
you because you're a girl. And
I went back and got in bed and

507
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:55.280
I just I don't think I even
got out the rest of that day.

508
00:39:55.360 --> 00:40:00.800
I didn't even want to eat.
So emotions when and I did have them,

509
00:40:00.800 --> 00:40:05.679
they weren't healthy, they weren't good, and so it really did mess

510
00:40:05.719 --> 00:40:10.400
with me. It really did.
Well, it's understandable why I did mess

511
00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:15.599
with you. Shame on her,
shame on your appearance for treating you the

512
00:40:15.639 --> 00:40:20.000
way they did. That is just
horrible. And for her to get a

513
00:40:20.159 --> 00:40:23.599
tiff into a tiff the way she
did when you quote unquote have the nerve

514
00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:27.519
to ask her if she loved you, well, that's a testament right there

515
00:40:27.599 --> 00:40:31.360
to why you asked her her response, Yeah, that's horrible. And one

516
00:40:31.360 --> 00:40:35.880
of the reasons why I asked you
to lay that out for us is to

517
00:40:35.920 --> 00:40:43.440
set up the opportunity to basically help
the listeners understand where you are coming from

518
00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:49.119
compared to where you are now.
You haven't really been shown all that much

519
00:40:49.239 --> 00:40:52.320
at all in the way of love
and support, but now you've got tons

520
00:40:52.400 --> 00:40:58.079
of love and tons of support from
the dog man community. As you can

521
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:02.079
see, there are tons and tons
of people that are supporting you from all

522
00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:07.760
sorts of different countries. You've got
people listening in Bangladesh to you talk about

523
00:41:07.800 --> 00:41:14.800
your experiences. China, Wow.
Yeah, Australia, You've got people listening

524
00:41:14.800 --> 00:41:20.639
to you, and every continent except
for Antarctica. So you've got love,

525
00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:25.760
You've got support. Now please never
forget that. Nice have no idea what

526
00:41:25.800 --> 00:41:30.760
this means to me. This You
have shown me more love in the last

527
00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:37.039
forty eight hours than I've had put
together my entire life. Thank you so

528
00:41:37.239 --> 00:41:40.679
much. I'm just going to be
so amazed when that hits five thousand.

529
00:41:42.880 --> 00:41:47.800
Oh my god, I told you
this, you did. They're amazing.

530
00:41:49.760 --> 00:41:53.719
When you don't grow up feeling that, it's hard to imagine that, you

531
00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:59.599
know. And I think that's one
reason why I loved being a nurse so

532
00:41:59.719 --> 00:42:02.639
much, because you know, I
could be there for people and show kindness

533
00:42:02.639 --> 00:42:07.599
and things and they appreciated it so
much. And them, you know,

534
00:42:07.679 --> 00:42:10.199
giving me a hug and saying thank
you. They didn't know it, but

535
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:15.719
they were kind of meeting a need
in my heart too, you know,

536
00:42:15.960 --> 00:42:23.920
because I was being shown kindness back
and it was wonderful. Definitely is Yeah,

537
00:42:23.920 --> 00:42:27.639
I just keep hammering home the fact
that you're not alone. Now,

538
00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:30.559
you've got support, You've got love. These people wouldn't support you the way

539
00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:35.599
they do and are if they didn't
feel that way about you. So yeah,

540
00:42:35.639 --> 00:42:38.599
like I said, please never forget
that. It looks like I've got

541
00:42:38.599 --> 00:42:43.320
the first question for you from the
live chat. Are you ready to start

542
00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:47.760
answering them? Yes? I am
all right. Great. The first one

543
00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:52.360
is from Mars Stall and mar wants
to know, Joe, are you going

544
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:58.639
to be able to take all of
your furniture with the black mold? Well,

545
00:42:58.840 --> 00:43:01.119
I know one of you guys warned
me that it could be on some

546
00:43:01.159 --> 00:43:06.440
of the furnitures, So I'm going
to ask somebody from the health department to

547
00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:09.920
come and examine it with me and
see if I have it. If I

548
00:43:10.039 --> 00:43:15.360
do, no, i won't be
taking that piece of furniture. I'll leave

549
00:43:15.400 --> 00:43:20.960
it here for her to enjoy.
With the mold in the house, and

550
00:43:21.039 --> 00:43:23.840
the ones that are okay, I
will go ahead and take. And I

551
00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:27.639
didn't even realize it could get on
furniture. You know, I planned on

552
00:43:27.719 --> 00:43:30.840
selling my furniture to try to be
able to move in there, and I

553
00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:35.079
would have felt so bad if I
sold somebody something with black mold. So

554
00:43:35.119 --> 00:43:38.199
I appreciated the listener telling me that, and that's how I'm going to deal

555
00:43:38.239 --> 00:43:43.440
with that. Good question. Thank
you, That is a good question.

556
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:49.239
The next one is from Queen of
Ocean, and Queen wants to know how

557
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:54.920
far out in the country were you. We didn't have these encounters five miles.

558
00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:00.960
It was exactly five miles to our
farm. Yeah, that's pretty far

559
00:44:01.039 --> 00:44:06.360
out there. Her next question is
what state was this in? Please?

560
00:44:06.639 --> 00:44:10.880
Thank you, the state of Kansas. And that's why I asked if there

561
00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:15.679
are any attorneys listening who are based
in Kansas who might be interested in taking

562
00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:21.519
this case up against that awful landlord, the slum lord. That's why I

563
00:44:21.559 --> 00:44:25.679
asked about that. I live in
southeast Kansas and I'm about one hundred and

564
00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:30.519
ten miles from the Oklahoma border.
It's a lot of country around there.

565
00:44:31.639 --> 00:44:35.960
Oh yeah, I've got another one
for you from Baby Girl, and her

566
00:44:36.079 --> 00:44:40.760
question is do you think that dog
man was jealous of your boyfriend? You

567
00:44:40.800 --> 00:44:45.920
know, I wondered about I don't
know if it was like jealousy that didn't

568
00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:51.559
like me, but I think that
it had determined that I was it,

569
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:54.320
you know, I belonged to it
so that it could torture me, so

570
00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:59.480
it could enjoy the fear. And
when he grabbed a hold of me,

571
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:04.719
You're right, that's when the look
changed. And that's when it was coming.

572
00:45:05.000 --> 00:45:07.880
You know, it was coming through
the side of the house where it

573
00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:12.039
could have just come through the window
before. So yeah, it definitely changed

574
00:45:12.079 --> 00:45:15.239
its motive at that point. That's
why I always made sure the hen I

575
00:45:15.239 --> 00:45:19.199
were never around each other again,
because I saw that change. Like I

576
00:45:19.239 --> 00:45:22.159
said, I don't think that it
was jealousy. It was just anger that

577
00:45:22.360 --> 00:45:27.840
it was. He was trying to
take its toy that he messed with to

578
00:45:27.880 --> 00:45:34.199
get fear so he could enjoy it. Yeah, pretty sadistic, but that's

579
00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:37.559
how it goes with these guys.
Like I've been explaining to you, that's

580
00:45:37.599 --> 00:45:42.440
par for the course. This next
one is from Cynthia Cole, and Cynthia's

581
00:45:42.519 --> 00:45:45.039
question is, Joe, do you
think you'll get a dog? Now?

582
00:45:45.400 --> 00:45:50.480
As you already know, pitt bulls
are protective and big goofballs too. Yeah,

583
00:45:50.519 --> 00:45:52.800
that they are. It may help
you to heal from this trauma to

584
00:45:52.840 --> 00:45:58.320
get a dog. You know,
my daughter and I were talking about that

585
00:45:58.519 --> 00:46:06.239
last night and I am proud to
tell everyone that she knows a guy that

586
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:10.920
his dog just had puppies three weeks
ago, and so in another three weeks,

587
00:46:12.280 --> 00:46:15.639
we're going to have a new addition
to our home. And it is

588
00:46:15.920 --> 00:46:20.079
part sitz. I don't even know
how to say it. I've not been

589
00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:23.920
around that many dogs and uh,
part Pomeranian. So I hope that's a

590
00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:28.960
cute mixture and it won't be that
big. So I guess you could bite

591
00:46:29.000 --> 00:46:31.719
the toes of a dog man,
but maybe it went at least alertist that

592
00:46:31.800 --> 00:46:37.800
it's there. But yes, we
are going to try that experience. That's

593
00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:42.800
funny, like the toes. Yeah, that it could. I was going

594
00:46:42.840 --> 00:46:45.800
to ask you this question later on, but now that we're talking about getting

595
00:46:45.800 --> 00:46:50.440
a pet, getting a dog,
I'm going to post this comment. Joe

596
00:46:50.559 --> 00:46:53.239
Daniels put a comment up that says, Joe, if you get a support

597
00:46:53.320 --> 00:47:02.360
animal slash pet slash baby, can
you call it vic that's funny? No,

598
00:47:02.559 --> 00:47:07.760
what this the one she's talking about
is a little boy. You know,

599
00:47:07.000 --> 00:47:13.559
I think we will do that.
You're going to have a Yeah,

600
00:47:13.840 --> 00:47:21.920
if you get in trouble, we're
gonna say Victor. It's not that sounds

601
00:47:21.960 --> 00:47:27.840
like a plan. That's funny.
That's too funny. Never a doll moment.

602
00:47:28.280 --> 00:47:30.599
Yeah, my cousin who's old enough
to be my uncle, were actually

603
00:47:30.639 --> 00:47:35.880
a father. He used to tease
me because he used to say there was

604
00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:38.880
a dog named Vic that was around
the family had before I was even born,

605
00:47:39.119 --> 00:47:43.480
that I was named after. I
wasn't. But yeah, this has

606
00:47:43.519 --> 00:47:46.280
given me flashbacks. He used to
tell me that all the time, all

607
00:47:46.400 --> 00:47:53.800
the time. But now that we're
sharing comments, Jessica Weyles has a comment.

608
00:47:53.920 --> 00:47:59.039
She says, Joe, you've just
adopted a huge family, or maybe

609
00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:01.320
we've adopted you. I wanted to
make sure you knew about that comment.

610
00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:07.639
That's awfully nice of her. That
is so precious. Oh my gosh,

611
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:12.159
thank you, sweetheart. You guys
are wonderful. How about we just all

612
00:48:12.199 --> 00:48:15.320
adopt each other. I don't want
to lose you. Guys know that I've

613
00:48:15.320 --> 00:48:22.159
got you. I told you they're
incredible. You know, I just never

614
00:48:22.280 --> 00:48:25.320
dreamed people were that way, because
if your own family isn't loving toward you,

615
00:48:25.880 --> 00:48:35.360
how can a stranger be. Yeah, you've taught me that they but

616
00:48:35.440 --> 00:48:39.280
they are. That's right, they
are. They're just good people out there,

617
00:48:39.320 --> 00:48:43.599
and that's all there is. To
it, So why ask why?

618
00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:51.119
I always say, I've got another
question for you from Andre's cairasales and Andres

619
00:48:51.119 --> 00:48:55.360
wants to know. Have you listened
to the Roy steubble Field episode or episodes?

620
00:48:55.559 --> 00:49:00.320
The first one is episode two fifty
seven? What happened to Herman?

621
00:49:00.679 --> 00:49:05.159
Was it like that for you?
Very thankful that your family. No,

622
00:49:05.199 --> 00:49:10.119
I'm sorry, very thankful that you're
finally healing and sleeping. Well, you

623
00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:15.159
know I have listened to that program. As a matter of fact, I've

624
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:22.719
had the privilege of speaking with Roy
on the phone because I wanted to ask

625
00:49:22.800 --> 00:49:25.800
him about Herman. That is so
amazing that you brought that up. And

626
00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:31.239
yes, it was a lot like
that, only with Herman. He didn't

627
00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:37.159
get the help that he needed in
time, and he continued to go down

628
00:49:37.800 --> 00:49:45.079
and down and down until he committed
suicide. I don't know if you guys

629
00:49:45.159 --> 00:49:50.400
know that or not. Yeah,
and that has really hit Roy hard.

630
00:49:50.440 --> 00:49:53.519
Course, what could he do.
He didn't know him, you know,

631
00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:58.199
before that night, and he helped
getting back to his mom's house. I

632
00:49:58.199 --> 00:50:00.840
mean, he did what he could
do. But you know, some people,

633
00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:05.559
it just affects some words. And
I'm telling you, if that dog

634
00:50:05.679 --> 00:50:09.039
min would have nailed me down into
the gravel like that and not had a

635
00:50:09.079 --> 00:50:15.360
window between us and been on top
of me and looking at him that way.

636
00:50:15.119 --> 00:50:20.400
And he said they didn't have it
on the show, but it actually

637
00:50:20.800 --> 00:50:24.320
bent its head down and went forehead
to forehead almost with him look at him

638
00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:28.920
in the eyes that close. Now
you think about the influence that they have

639
00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:31.960
when they lock eyes with you.
Who knows what thoughts it put into his

640
00:50:32.119 --> 00:50:37.039
head. You know, I just
my heart breaks for him. It just

641
00:50:37.159 --> 00:50:43.840
breaks. So he had it ten
times worse than I did. You know.

642
00:50:44.079 --> 00:50:46.719
I thank god that I was never
on the same side of the window.

643
00:50:50.000 --> 00:50:52.559
I do too, But other things
go into it, you know,

644
00:50:52.639 --> 00:50:59.199
your emotional makeup and things like that, certain things the dog man does do

645
00:50:59.440 --> 00:51:04.199
or doesn't do. So it's really
hard to say. You can have factors

646
00:51:04.239 --> 00:51:07.639
and make it seem like this person
over here wouldn't have been traumatized to the

647
00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:14.159
point that this person over there was. But yeah, those things, those

648
00:51:14.239 --> 00:51:17.400
metrics I just mentioned, It makes
it so you never really know how strongly

649
00:51:17.679 --> 00:51:22.159
someone's going to be affected by their
encounter. It's just really hard to say.

650
00:51:22.400 --> 00:51:24.280
All I can say about that matter
is I really wish I could have

651
00:51:24.320 --> 00:51:30.800
spoken with herman before he committed suicide. I really do well he would have

652
00:51:30.840 --> 00:51:34.920
prevented it, Vick, I really
do. I hope. So yeah.

653
00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:37.960
I've spoken with eyewitnesses who had it
even worse than him, in situations that

654
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:45.000
were even more tense than that attack
victims. So and they're doing okay now.

655
00:51:45.880 --> 00:51:50.719
But I should have, could have, would have. It's just too

656
00:51:50.800 --> 00:51:53.679
late to help him. But moving
on, I've got another question for you,

657
00:51:53.800 --> 00:51:58.239
Joe from Angie Wilson, and Angie
wants to know, do you know

658
00:51:58.320 --> 00:52:04.199
for sure that the sewage and mold
was removed. You know, you guys

659
00:52:04.239 --> 00:52:08.719
also had to be banking on that
when he first came and said, oh

660
00:52:08.760 --> 00:52:13.239
my god, you're so right.
That's like two and a half three foot

661
00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:15.320
deep in there, and he's like
measure with his hands. He said,

662
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:21.159
it's going to take us some time
to get that all removed and disposed of,

663
00:52:21.719 --> 00:52:24.280
and then that area is going to
have to dry out. We're going

664
00:52:24.320 --> 00:52:29.760
to replace the broken sewer pipe,
We're going to treat and get rid of

665
00:52:29.800 --> 00:52:32.639
the black mole, and then you
know, we're going to let that all

666
00:52:32.639 --> 00:52:37.000
air out. That'll be at least
five days, and then you'll be able

667
00:52:37.039 --> 00:52:42.360
to come back. He came back. He started at nine o'clock on a

668
00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:46.639
Monday morning. He came over to
the neighbor's house at one point thirty the

669
00:52:46.719 --> 00:52:52.679
next afternoon and said that they could
move my recliner back. They moved my

670
00:52:52.719 --> 00:52:57.360
recliner over there so I could sleep
because I can't lay flat with my breathing

671
00:52:57.400 --> 00:53:00.840
difficulties now. And the lady I
was there with said, now, wait

672
00:53:00.880 --> 00:53:06.119
a second. You're telling me that
you have that all done. And he

673
00:53:06.199 --> 00:53:09.079
said, yes, we worked overtime, and she looked at him kind of

674
00:53:09.079 --> 00:53:13.320
funny, and she said there were
two of you. And he said,

675
00:53:13.599 --> 00:53:16.199
we did a good job. And
he looked at me and he said,

676
00:53:17.159 --> 00:53:22.719
I want you to know that you
were right about everything. And he's looking

677
00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:28.159
me right now. Everything you said
was right, and I'm so sorry about

678
00:53:28.199 --> 00:53:31.360
your health. And when he left, she said, isn't that kind of

679
00:53:31.400 --> 00:53:35.440
weird he did that? And I
said, yeah, but you know,

680
00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:38.480
she told him you can't take her
chair today. I don't feel right about

681
00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:43.559
it. He said, okay,
well we're done. We'll come back and

682
00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:46.679
get your chair and move you back
tomorrow morning. And I said, well

683
00:53:46.800 --> 00:53:52.920
okay, and she just kept saying
there's something wrong. So you know,

684
00:53:52.679 --> 00:53:57.119
I got thinking about that. There's
no way that they could have got that

685
00:53:57.159 --> 00:54:00.280
all out, just two of them
that much. There's no way they let

686
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:04.760
it dry. And then as I
was talking to Vic, I hope this

687
00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:08.079
is okay. I say this Vic
about him putting the lie on the black

688
00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:12.920
mold to kill it. VIC looked
it up and informed me the why doesn't

689
00:54:13.000 --> 00:54:19.239
kill black and I was really and
he said, you know, you probably

690
00:54:19.239 --> 00:54:22.880
shouldn't need to be smelling the lie
because we came back and our eyes were

691
00:54:22.920 --> 00:54:28.079
burning, you know, our throats
were burning, our nose was burning.

692
00:54:28.280 --> 00:54:30.199
And I told her, I said, well, that must be the lie

693
00:54:30.400 --> 00:54:34.239
killing it. But I think it
was just added, you know, things

694
00:54:34.280 --> 00:54:38.639
in the air that we were smelling. But whatever he did killed the scent.

695
00:54:38.800 --> 00:54:45.159
We haven't smelled that sewer scent,
so I think they probably did something

696
00:54:45.280 --> 00:54:47.639
to cover it up. And that's
why she's winning me out so fast,

697
00:54:49.119 --> 00:54:52.519
so she can sell it to somebody
else that's unsuspecting. And that's why as

698
00:54:52.559 --> 00:54:57.960
soon as I get my things out
and i'm in that place, I'm going

699
00:54:58.039 --> 00:55:02.280
to start getting someone to move on
this, get an attorney, because I

700
00:55:02.280 --> 00:55:06.679
think if I started it before I
have my things. I think she probably

701
00:55:06.719 --> 00:55:09.519
would have a bunch of people come
in here and throw my stuff out on

702
00:55:09.599 --> 00:55:15.559
the front lawn and I am not
physically able to stop it. She has

703
00:55:15.599 --> 00:55:22.000
a lot of power in this town, I mean to say that, because

704
00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:25.800
she owns a lot of rental properties
here, so she has a lot of

705
00:55:25.840 --> 00:55:31.519
control. So yeah, I think
it's a cover up. I really do.

706
00:55:32.880 --> 00:55:37.119
Oh, I'm sure it was in
more ways than one, putting that

707
00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:39.880
lie on top of the black mole
to try and cover it up. Yeah,

708
00:55:39.960 --> 00:55:44.559
that's why I was pissed off when
you told me about them doing that.

709
00:55:44.639 --> 00:55:47.519
The burning has to be the dust
in the air from the lie that

710
00:55:47.599 --> 00:55:52.119
you definitely don't want to be breathing. Shame on him for doing that,

711
00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:57.480
and I'm sure that your landlord knew
full well, but that's what he was

712
00:55:57.519 --> 00:56:01.400
going to do. So it was
a way to quote unquote fix the problem,

713
00:56:01.440 --> 00:56:06.280
which you didn't fix it. Shame
on her too in so many ways

714
00:56:06.360 --> 00:56:10.079
that is awful. I bet she
paid him off, I really do.

715
00:56:10.960 --> 00:56:14.639
I bet she paid him off because
he did not want to do that job.

716
00:56:15.280 --> 00:56:16.400
You know, he said to the
guy, the guy that was with

717
00:56:16.480 --> 00:56:20.199
him when he was explaining that was
laughing and saying, I'm going to call

718
00:56:20.280 --> 00:56:22.519
in all week, boss, and
he goes, yeah, I want to

719
00:56:22.519 --> 00:56:23.760
call in too, because you know, of what they were going to have

720
00:56:23.800 --> 00:56:27.480
to clean out. And I was
sitting there feeling bad, but I kept

721
00:56:27.559 --> 00:56:30.760
saying, I told him for seven
you know, going on seven years,

722
00:56:30.239 --> 00:56:34.079
I'm so sorry, and he goes, no, no, I'm not blaming

723
00:56:34.119 --> 00:56:38.320
you. But if she paid him
off for a certain amount of money and

724
00:56:38.360 --> 00:56:40.960
he didn't want to get in there
and do that anyway, I'm sure he

725
00:56:42.039 --> 00:56:45.960
got it now, just enough to
get to the pipe, changed it out

726
00:56:45.760 --> 00:56:52.199
and walked out, you know.
So I think that's why his guilt was

727
00:56:52.199 --> 00:56:54.360
telling me a little bit. You
know, you were right about everything,

728
00:56:54.440 --> 00:56:59.559
and I'm sorry about your help.
I think that was his warning and kind

729
00:56:59.559 --> 00:57:04.440
of crypto. Can I just pick
up on it? So yeah, I

730
00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:07.599
think that's even given. And I'm
just guessing giving him bribe money or cover

731
00:57:07.719 --> 00:57:10.840
up money or something was probably going
to be a lot cheaper than if he

732
00:57:10.920 --> 00:57:16.000
actually charged her for all the hours. And they probably would have even charged

733
00:57:16.039 --> 00:57:21.159
her to take it someplace to be
disposed of properly, wouldn't they. Oh

734
00:57:21.239 --> 00:57:25.239
yeah, money? So yeah,
So She just probably thought, I'll just

735
00:57:25.280 --> 00:57:30.519
do it this way and then sell
it real quick before anybody catches on.

736
00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:36.400
That is not my problem. Anything
to save a block. Unfortunately, despicable.

737
00:57:37.079 --> 00:57:42.280
That's horrible. Looks like I have
another question for you from Rochelle Baher.

738
00:57:42.800 --> 00:57:46.280
Her question is, Joe, what
kind of life did your parents have?

739
00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:54.840
Do you think your mother was a
narcissist? Well, my father had

740
00:57:54.880 --> 00:58:00.199
a sixth grade education, my mother
had an eighth grade education. He was

741
00:58:00.199 --> 00:58:05.119
from the back hills of the Ozarks. He was from the hills of Missouri.

742
00:58:06.719 --> 00:58:13.079
I just think they came from a
very uneducated family. They you know,

743
00:58:13.159 --> 00:58:16.199
went through the thirties with great depression, and you know, I mean,

744
00:58:16.239 --> 00:58:22.320
they just had nothing. And when
my dad's you know, his father

745
00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:27.559
died, he was in the sixth
grade and he had to quit work and

746
00:58:27.639 --> 00:58:30.880
go work in a factory right next
to grown men to help bring money home.

747
00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:36.079
So I just don't think that they
ever knew any kindness. They were

748
00:58:36.119 --> 00:58:38.719
only you know, shown roughness.
If you can imagine a young boy and

749
00:58:38.760 --> 00:58:43.079
there with these men, probably how
they were picking on him and things.

750
00:58:43.280 --> 00:58:45.679
That's all they ever do. And
if that's all you've ever grown up around,

751
00:58:45.840 --> 00:58:49.360
that's the only thing, you know
to pass on. So I really

752
00:58:49.400 --> 00:58:55.360
can't get mad at him. I
just have to understand it. And the

753
00:58:55.440 --> 00:58:58.800
only way I feel like maybe I
broke it. And this is going to

754
00:58:58.840 --> 00:59:00.960
sound so silly that say I think
was going for me. You know,

755
00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:06.079
I wasn't seeing anything different than when
I did mention this girl and her mom

756
00:59:06.159 --> 00:59:09.719
saying that. You know, I
got clocked pretty hard. So I was

757
00:59:10.000 --> 00:59:15.360
over at a friend's house a few
times. My mom was working late,

758
00:59:15.119 --> 00:59:21.039
and the Brady Butch was coming on, and I honestly thought that's how families

759
00:59:21.079 --> 00:59:25.159
were. And so I kind of
took mental notes from that and I tried

760
00:59:25.199 --> 00:59:29.199
to, you know, decide that
when I was going to be a mom,

761
00:59:29.760 --> 00:59:32.599
I was going to try to be
just like them. So, you

762
00:59:32.639 --> 00:59:36.360
know, I was going to tell
my kids that I loved them every day

763
00:59:36.639 --> 00:59:38.800
because I didn't get that, or
I would do this, or I would

764
00:59:38.840 --> 00:59:43.599
do you know something else every day. You know, I would make sure

765
00:59:43.639 --> 00:59:46.559
they had a present every Christmas,
you know, because I knew what it

766
00:59:46.599 --> 00:59:52.119
was like not to get anything.
And so I really can't be mad at

767
00:59:52.159 --> 00:59:58.440
them. I actually feel sorry for
them, I really do. I can

768
00:59:58.519 --> 01:00:01.280
understand why you feel sorry for them
because you just have such a pure heart.

769
01:00:01.400 --> 01:00:08.199
But please forgive me. I don't
I can't stand them for what they

770
01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:14.599
did to you. You're such a
pure soul. Shame on them for treating

771
01:00:14.639 --> 01:00:17.159
you the way they did. I
don't care what the circumstances were. There

772
01:00:17.159 --> 01:00:22.440
are tons of people out there who
weren't shown love as kids, and they've

773
01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:25.679
lived a very difficult life. But
still they're very loving to their children.

774
01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:31.079
No excuse, no excuse at all. I'm not buying it, not buying

775
01:00:31.119 --> 01:00:37.280
it at all. Well, I've
got another question for you from Raider Joe,

776
01:00:37.639 --> 01:00:40.039
and Raider wants to know. Not
sure if I missed it or not,

777
01:00:40.519 --> 01:00:45.960
but was that the last event after
that night at the boyfriend's house me

778
01:00:46.119 --> 01:00:52.559
that I saw the dog man?
Yes, that was the last time that

779
01:00:52.719 --> 01:00:55.400
it came at me, just full
forced right after you know. Like I

780
01:00:55.400 --> 01:01:01.000
said, I took my last test
that day and when daylight came and finished

781
01:01:01.039 --> 01:01:07.280
out my nursing. And so I
had already been talking to a hospital in

782
01:01:07.440 --> 01:01:13.679
Miami, Oklahoma about getting a job
at the hospital there in the ob ward

783
01:01:14.480 --> 01:01:20.960
and so I had found through their
recruiter an apartment that was furnished and It

784
01:01:21.039 --> 01:01:23.320
had like four apartments in one big
house, and nurses lived in those,

785
01:01:23.360 --> 01:01:27.480
so it felt kind of safe.
And I just took my clothes and you

786
01:01:27.519 --> 01:01:31.960
know, personal hiking effects in my
car and I was gone. And Dale

787
01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:38.280
moved out of town, my ex
with his family, and he turned the

788
01:01:38.320 --> 01:01:43.360
house back over to the guy he
was buying it on contract, and then

789
01:01:43.400 --> 01:01:46.320
he ended up coming down to where
I was. So we made sure we

790
01:01:46.559 --> 01:01:52.639
stayed away from that area, trying
not to have that happen. And that's

791
01:01:52.679 --> 01:01:57.519
when we decided to get married.
And I found out I was pregnant with

792
01:01:57.559 --> 01:02:02.360
my daughter, but he having nightmares, I was having nightmares. We just

793
01:02:02.679 --> 01:02:07.239
weren't going to make it, and
he left. He got a job with

794
01:02:07.320 --> 01:02:12.519
a railroad that putting around all different
states repairing you know, tracks, trains

795
01:02:12.519 --> 01:02:15.599
having accidents or jumping the track and
cutting it all to pieces. And you

796
01:02:15.679 --> 01:02:21.000
know, so we just made sure
that we were never around each other again.

797
01:02:21.039 --> 01:02:23.480
Like I said, she never saw
us in the same room together she

798
01:02:23.559 --> 01:02:28.519
grew up. So but I did
feel like when I came back in this

799
01:02:28.599 --> 01:02:30.000
area, you know where the hair
would stand the back of my neck,

800
01:02:30.079 --> 01:02:37.119
that it was checking, it was
checking. So so kind of yes,

801
01:02:37.159 --> 01:02:38.320
and no, I guess huh,
I felt it. I knew it was

802
01:02:38.360 --> 01:02:44.199
around, but it never came right
at me. When you have extreme experiences,

803
01:02:44.280 --> 01:02:47.039
it's not uncommon to take extreme measures. So I get it. I

804
01:02:47.119 --> 01:02:52.239
understand. I've got another comment for
you, Joe from the Young Homesteaders.

805
01:02:52.599 --> 01:02:58.079
The comment is almost seems like the
body language of a protective dog, if

806
01:02:58.119 --> 01:03:00.199
you want to draw that parallel.
Of course, all talking about the way

807
01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:06.199
that dog me enacted when he saw
your boyfriend grab your arm there. And

808
01:03:06.239 --> 01:03:12.280
then we've got another comment for you
from Baby Girl, and her question is

809
01:03:12.719 --> 01:03:16.400
the dog me and family will always
watch each each other's backs. And that's

810
01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:22.920
true. They prove it all the
time. I've got a question for you

811
01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:28.000
from be Kind and they wanted to
know how close was the neighbor's house who

812
01:03:28.039 --> 01:03:31.719
called the cops. King distracted and
alerted the neighbor, which saved you both.

813
01:03:34.400 --> 01:03:46.719
Oh, let's see, I'm going
to guess probably seventy feet, Probably

814
01:03:46.719 --> 01:03:53.400
between sixteen and seventy feet they were
debt bar away pretty close. Then yeah,

815
01:03:53.800 --> 01:03:57.719
yeah, I see he really heard
it, And like I said,

816
01:03:57.760 --> 01:04:01.920
he heard King. You know the
screams. Obviously we're from you know,

817
01:04:02.000 --> 01:04:05.320
King having his limbs ripped off.
That was what that screaming was for.

818
01:04:06.119 --> 01:04:10.119
And it didn't even sound like a
dog. It was such sheer pain and

819
01:04:10.199 --> 01:04:14.320
he thought it was me being hurt, and that's why he called them and

820
01:04:14.360 --> 01:04:16.639
said, you know, I think
she's over there. He didn't even know

821
01:04:16.679 --> 01:04:19.440
my name, and I think she's
get killed. You better get here.

822
01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:26.760
So, yeah, he was close
enough that he heard everything, and it

823
01:04:26.880 --> 01:04:30.119
was dark, so I guess he
couldn't see what was going on. You

824
01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:31.800
know, it's a good thing for
him because he'd been having nightmares too.

825
01:04:31.920 --> 01:04:38.159
Had he looked out and saw what
was actually happening, wouldn't he so glad

826
01:04:38.159 --> 01:04:44.079
he didn't. He sure would have. He definitely would have. This next

827
01:04:44.159 --> 01:04:47.440
question is related to what you just
told us about talking about what happened to

828
01:04:47.639 --> 01:04:53.480
King. Unfortunately, and you don't
have to answer this question if you don't

829
01:04:53.519 --> 01:04:57.880
want to. It's a sensitive one, but be kind wanted to know.

830
01:04:58.760 --> 01:05:02.559
Is this is this too hard of
a question to ask? That's a question

831
01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:15.599
obviously? Was King's heart taken?
How did she know that? Wow?

832
01:05:17.119 --> 01:05:23.119
Okay, she just kind of scared
me a little. Yes, it was

833
01:05:23.199 --> 01:05:26.760
missing. We didn't know if it
ripped it out and threw it somewhere in

834
01:05:26.800 --> 01:05:30.000
the yard that they didn't find it, or it took it with it.

835
01:05:30.440 --> 01:05:34.280
Does that Dick have something to do
with a dog men? Yeah, that's

836
01:05:34.360 --> 01:05:38.119
kind of a pattern. That's not
uncommon for them to do that, to

837
01:05:38.159 --> 01:05:43.000
take the heart, and be Kind
had an encounter already, so really that

838
01:05:43.119 --> 01:05:46.800
explains it. Oh boy, I'd
love to talk to be Kind. So

839
01:05:47.239 --> 01:05:51.760
she had an animal that the heart
was taken that I can't remember. I

840
01:05:51.840 --> 01:05:56.480
talked with some in the eyewitnesses.
I can't tell you that their encounter was

841
01:05:56.519 --> 01:06:01.000
on episode five eighteen. Be Kind's
encounter was episode five eighteen, if you

842
01:06:01.039 --> 01:06:05.800
want to listen to the particulars.
Yeah, I wish there was some way

843
01:06:05.840 --> 01:06:10.719
that I could connect with that person, you know, later on. I

844
01:06:10.719 --> 01:06:14.039
don't know if that's even possible.
I could put you in the contact.

845
01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:17.039
I could put you in the contact
be Kind if you can send me a

846
01:06:17.079 --> 01:06:20.639
message. I know you still have
my contact info. If you can shoot

847
01:06:20.679 --> 01:06:24.920
me a text message to let me
know if you'd be up for a conversation

848
01:06:25.119 --> 01:06:28.719
with Joe. Just let me know
and I'd be more than happy to get

849
01:06:28.719 --> 01:06:31.760
that set up. That'd be k
easy. Oh, you're welcome. You're

850
01:06:31.800 --> 01:06:35.960
welcome. It looks like baby girl
wants to know how tall that dog man

851
01:06:36.239 --> 01:06:41.280
was. Oh, it was a
good eight and a half to ninth foot

852
01:06:41.840 --> 01:06:45.079
easy, because and I know that
because of the way the house I lived

853
01:06:45.079 --> 01:06:48.639
in was set up, you know, and where it was on those windows.

854
01:06:48.920 --> 01:06:55.000
Yeah, nine foot easy. It
might have been nine and a half.

855
01:06:55.920 --> 01:06:59.719
It was big. It was so
big that you couldn't comprehend it could

856
01:06:59.719 --> 01:07:04.079
be that big. That makes sense, you know. It was just it

857
01:07:04.119 --> 01:07:08.360
looks like the size that you would
think a big kodiak there or something would

858
01:07:08.400 --> 01:07:13.440
be standing up on his backbeat.
It just it was huge. That is

859
01:07:13.480 --> 01:07:15.719
awfully big. They get bigger than
that, though, they can be twelve

860
01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:21.360
feet so serious, Yeah, they
get bigger than that. They do.

861
01:07:21.840 --> 01:07:26.400
That's why so many people, you
know, they talk about ten foot sasquatch

862
01:07:26.440 --> 01:07:29.639
and they get taller than that also, But they talk about how a ten

863
01:07:29.679 --> 01:07:32.840
foot sasquatch would be so much more
powerful and so much bigger than a dog

864
01:07:32.920 --> 01:07:36.119
man. What depends? Are you
talking about a twelve foot dog man?

865
01:07:36.920 --> 01:07:40.280
I mean, that would be one
heck of a fight. I'm sure between

866
01:07:40.280 --> 01:07:44.320
a twelve foot dog mean and a
ten foot sasquatch between even a twelve foot

867
01:07:44.360 --> 01:07:46.840
dog mean and a twelve foot sasquatch, I'm not really sure who to bet

868
01:07:46.880 --> 01:07:51.440
on because the sasquatch doesn't have six
inch long talons on the tips of its

869
01:07:51.440 --> 01:07:57.960
fingers, and the canine teeth are
probably that long also, so in the

870
01:07:58.000 --> 01:08:03.159
strength also to push fifth wheel trailers
up onto two wheels and do things like

871
01:08:03.239 --> 01:08:10.440
that one shot big animals to one
shot bulls and things like that. So

872
01:08:11.000 --> 01:08:15.359
it's really hard to say which way
that would go. It is right out

873
01:08:15.439 --> 01:08:18.199
of my mouth as I was going
to say, yeah, well, I

874
01:08:18.199 --> 01:08:25.119
don't think a bigfoot has those teeth
and definitely doesn't have those claws, so

875
01:08:25.560 --> 01:08:30.479
I've seen what those can do.
You sure have. Unfortunately, I've got

876
01:08:30.479 --> 01:08:36.119
one more question for you. We're
about sixty eight minutes in and then we're

877
01:08:36.119 --> 01:08:41.680
going to get ready to close it
down. But this last question is from

878
01:08:41.720 --> 01:08:45.319
Bang Bang Screwtube, and their question
is, Joe, I listened to dogming

879
01:08:45.399 --> 01:08:50.000
encounters in order to sleep at night? Have you tried listening to healing frequency

880
01:08:50.119 --> 01:08:57.920
music? I have not. Is
there a site that you can recommend?

881
01:08:58.520 --> 01:09:03.239
That's a good question. I'm not
really sure what what would be the best

882
01:09:03.279 --> 01:09:08.880
way to listen to it, but
probably googling it or something like that would

883
01:09:08.880 --> 01:09:14.079
turn up an option or two.
But well, I can certainly try that

884
01:09:14.159 --> 01:09:17.159
going in. But if it,
you know, in a few more weeks

885
01:09:17.239 --> 01:09:21.439
or months, if it still tries
to hop into my dreams, I think

886
01:09:21.439 --> 01:09:26.079
Anne's gonna have me ready to go
with it. Then it'll find out that

887
01:09:26.239 --> 01:09:30.359
it's not the big bad woof anymore. I've been trained in lucid dreams and

888
01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:33.399
I'm going to get it this time. So it might want to know that.

889
01:09:34.239 --> 01:09:39.319
There you go. I love hearing
that I love it. I do

890
01:09:40.600 --> 01:09:43.279
well. Before we get out of
here, Joe, do you have any

891
01:09:43.319 --> 01:09:46.520
close in comments you'd like to put
out there for us. I just want

892
01:09:46.560 --> 01:09:54.439
to thank everybody again for allowing me
to tell my encounter, for not passing

893
01:09:54.560 --> 01:09:59.159
judgment on me, but believing me
and supporting me and telling me that you

894
01:09:59.279 --> 01:10:03.760
do. Thank you to everybody who
donated, whether it was like he said,

895
01:10:03.800 --> 01:10:10.359
your love in a comment, or
you know, money from all over.

896
01:10:11.159 --> 01:10:15.520
There would have been no way that
even selling the furniture we had,

897
01:10:15.359 --> 01:10:19.640
I knew there'd be no way that
I could get us that house. I

898
01:10:19.720 --> 01:10:23.479
was going to have to end up
being in a house that I probably couldn't

899
01:10:23.479 --> 01:10:26.039
even safely get in and out of, but I had to have it for

900
01:10:26.159 --> 01:10:30.199
my daughter. You guys have made
that all possible. I know. I

901
01:10:30.359 --> 01:10:32.720
just know in my heart we're going
to hit the five thousand mark thanks to

902
01:10:32.720 --> 01:10:38.079
all of you, and we'll be
able to start our life anew. And

903
01:10:38.800 --> 01:10:44.079
there just aren't enough words for me, are enough time for me to say

904
01:10:44.119 --> 01:10:47.359
how thankful I am, how much
I love you guys, and thank you

905
01:10:47.479 --> 01:10:54.319
for showing me what I didn't find
out growing up, and that's that people

906
01:10:54.359 --> 01:10:59.600
are good and they love you and
they will help you when the chips are

907
01:10:59.640 --> 01:11:03.359
down. Thank you, guys,
God bless you all. Very well said,

908
01:11:03.880 --> 01:11:08.039
very well said. A better group
of people you're not going to find.

909
01:11:08.720 --> 01:11:12.920
I mean, they're absolutely amazing,
they really are. But you're right

910
01:11:12.920 --> 01:11:16.079
there, my friend, You're right
there at the top. Thank you well.

911
01:11:16.119 --> 01:11:21.800
Thanks for saying that. That's awfully
nice of you. But I just

912
01:11:21.880 --> 01:11:27.359
want the best of you like everyone
else here does. But having said that,

913
01:11:27.560 --> 01:11:30.279
Joe, thanks again so much for
coming back on to answer all these

914
01:11:30.399 --> 01:11:34.560
questions. Thanks for coming on for
the first show to tell us about your

915
01:11:34.600 --> 01:11:40.199
experiences. I really do appreciate it, and like I told you before,

916
01:11:40.319 --> 01:11:43.039
if you ever need help, I'll
be there for you. Just let me

917
01:11:43.119 --> 01:11:47.399
know. Thank you, thank you, God bless you all. You're welcome,

918
01:11:47.680 --> 01:11:53.399
have a great night. If you've
had a dog mean an encounter and

919
01:11:53.439 --> 01:11:56.039
would like to speak with me about
it, it doesn't matter if you want

920
01:11:56.039 --> 01:12:00.000
to speak with me in private about
it or if you do want to come

921
01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:02.399
I'm on this show. All you
have to do is just go to dogman

922
01:12:02.520 --> 01:12:06.399
Encounters dot com submit a report,
and if you do that then I'd be

923
01:12:06.439 --> 01:12:12.640
more than happy to schedule a conversation
with you, a phone conversation. But

924
01:12:13.159 --> 01:12:15.439
if you've had a sasquatch sighting and
we'd like to be a guest on one

925
01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:20.520
of my two bigfoot podcasts, that's
easy as well. Please go to my

926
01:12:20.720 --> 01:12:26.920
Bigfoot Sighting dot com and let me
know, fill out a guest request form

927
01:12:26.960 --> 01:12:30.760
and let me know and I'll be
in contact with you that way. But

928
01:12:30.920 --> 01:12:34.520
having said that, if you would
like to donate to Joe's GoFundMe page,

929
01:12:34.880 --> 01:12:40.560
if you go to Dogmandcounters dot com
right on the homepage you'll find a link

930
01:12:40.640 --> 01:12:44.159
for it, or if you just
look in the description for tonight's show,

931
01:12:44.199 --> 01:12:47.479
if you look In the description for
Friday night show, you'll find a link

932
01:12:47.520 --> 01:12:53.439
to that GoFundMe page to help donate
and support her. But like I said

933
01:12:53.479 --> 01:12:56.720
at the head of the show,
I can't thank you enough for supporting this

934
01:12:56.840 --> 01:13:00.479
lady the way you have. You're
just amazing. I can't do a justice.

935
01:13:00.600 --> 01:13:04.840
I really can't. I can't thank
you enough. But having said all

936
01:13:04.960 --> 01:13:10.239
that, thanks again so much for
supporting these eyewitnesses the way you do.

937
01:13:10.640 --> 01:13:15.439
I really do appreciate it, and
they do too. Have a great night.