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You're listening to kf I AM six
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and Orange County. A good ball, your host, Aby King. October

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ball is here. Dodgers start playing
again on October seventh, all the way

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to the World Series. Baby.
This is your wake up call for Monday,

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October two. Good morning, I'm
Amy King. Thanks so much for

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waking up. Did you feel the
fall chill in the air this morning?

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Maybe I haven't. You probably haven't
been outside yet, but when you do.

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I felt this little chill and I
was like, oh, yeah,

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fall is here. Of course.
Then I got a forecast coming up for

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you. It's gonna be like one
hundred degrees this weekend. But that's a

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whole other thing. A sure sign. Holidays are right around the corner.

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I got my Amazon Christmas catalog,
Amazon's Holiday Dash, all the hot toys

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the kids gotta have, Foolish Little
Mermaid, stuffed animals, Spiety and his

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amazing friends, lots of cool stuff. Hey, we had a fabulous day

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at the Pacific Air Show yesterday.
I'm gonna be telling you more about that

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coming up. But in the meantime, I do encourage you to check out

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my Instagram at Amy K King to
see who I ran into. And here's

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a hint. I feel the need
the need for speed. It was a

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really fun little encounter. I will
tell you about that in a minute.

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Here's what's head on the wake up
call say after In the Hollywood studios are

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scheduled to sit down for negotiations for
the first time since actors walked out in

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mid July. AI A big sticking
point. California Governor Newsom has vetoed a

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bill that would have paid unemployment benefits
to striking workers. He rejected the bill's

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Saturday. He said California's unemployment Trust
Fund is already near twenty billion dollars in

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debt and now is not the time
to increase that. The lights are on

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at the US government. Lawmakers passed
a continuing resolution Saturday to keep the government

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running through mid November. The big
question now is whether Kevin McCarthy can survive

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as speaker after that vote. We're
gonna be talking with ABC's Stephen Portnoy about

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this in just a couple of minutes. Don't away. At six oh five.

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It's handled on the news. The
governor has appointed a replacement for Diane

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Feinstein. Einstein just passed away on
Thursday night. Let's start with some of

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those stories coming out of the KFI
twenty four hour newsroom. At least twelve

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cities in La County have filed a
lawsuit to stop the new zero bail policy.

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Representatives from the cities noted in their
filing late Friday that the new policies

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a threat to public safety. Is
zero bail for most non violent offenders started

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yesterday with the blessing of the county's
presiding judge and the Board of Supervisors,

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but cities like Whittier, Downey,
and Industry joined Glendora, Palmdale, and

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Arcadia along with others to put a
stop to the new policy. It's not

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clear why the city's waited until the
last minute, but it's expected more cities

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will join the lawsuit. Steve Gregory
caf I News. At least four people,

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including an LAPD officer, have been
hurt during a protest in Boil Heights

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over proposed rent increases for city housing. The Los Angeles Tennant Unit Union says

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LAPD officers rushed from behind protesters yesterday
outside Boyle Heights City Hall. No arrests

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were made. The union said it
is planning its next march for early November.

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Governor Newsom is named a replacement for
Senator Dianne Feinstein, who died last

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week. Appointing Democratic strategists Lafonza Butler
to fill Diane Feinstein's seat fulfills Governor Gavin

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Newsom's promise, and he would appoint
a black woman. Many thought it was

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going to be Congresswoman Barbara Lee until
Newsom said he would not have point anyone

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currently running to fill the seat as
to not disrupt the primary process. ABC's

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Alex Stone says Lee is running for
the seat next year. Butler will be

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the only black woman in the Senate. She'll be the first openly LGBTQ senator

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to represent California. Opening statements are
said to begin in New York in the

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fraud case against former President Trump.
The civil trial against the former president begins,

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with the judge already having declared last
week that there is enough evidence that

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Donald Trump committed fraud by lying about
the value of his assets and inflated his

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net worth by as much as two
point two billion dollars. ABC's Sonia Rincon

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says the trial will determine penalties.
She says Trump good face finds up to

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two hundred and fifty million dollars and
could lose control of some of his properties

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in New York. The Nobel Prize
for Medicine has been announced in Sweden.

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The Nobel Assembly at Carolinsky Institute that
has today decided to award the twenty twenty

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three Nobel Prize in physiolog your Medicine. Jointly Secretary of the Nobel Assembly,

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Thomas Pearlman says the award goes to
two scientists for discoveries that allowed for the

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development of MR and A vaccines against
COVID nineteen. Katalin Kariko is a professor

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at Sagan's University in Hungary and an
adjunct professor at the University of Pennsylvania.

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Drew Weissman did his research with Kuriko
at the University of Pennsylvania. Nobel announcements

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are going to continue this week with
the Physics Prize tomorrow, Chemistry Wednesday,

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Literature on Thursday, and the Nobel
Peace Prize, the big daddy of them

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all, will be announced on Friday. Let's say good morning now to ABC's

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Stephen Portnoy. Stephen, on Friday
when we talked, it looked like a

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shutdown was imminent, but at the
very end of our talk you said anything

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could happen, and it did.
I'm so glad you remember that. I

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was gonna say it if you didn't
listen, I was right. No,

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listen. What happened over the weekend
was Speaker McCarthy knew that the only way

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to avoid a government shutdown was to
have by partisanship. He put on the

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floor of bill that actually surprised Democrats
and for a while they were suspicious of

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it and said they needed to spend
the time reviewing all seventy one pages because

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it was done without coordinating with Democrats, and he put it on the floor.

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It was a clean continuing resolution that
did not include money for Ukraine,

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but did provide an additional sixteen billion
dollars for disaster relief, and after Democrats

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initially aired their suspicions and even objections, they said, you know what,

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We'll take this deal. And it
was sent to the Senate with three hundred

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and thirty five members of the House
voting in favor and eighty eight members of

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the Senate voted to the Senate of
the President's desk, and he signed it

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with leus than an hour ago,
so no government shutdown. Government agencies are

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funded through mid November. The question
now is what are the ramifications for Kevin

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McCarthy's Speaker of the House for essentially, I won't say striking a deal with

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Democrats because again Democrats were caught off
guard here. But he worked with Democrats

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to get this done. And in
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House voted to send this bill to
the Senate. Most Republicans voted for it,

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but ninety voted against it. And
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loudest critics in the Republican conference,
Matt Gates. Yeah, right, So

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Matt, Matt Gates is today,
as early as today, going to go

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to the floor of the House and
put up a motion to vacate the speakership.

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It could trigger a vote within forty
eight hours. It could happen as

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early as today. That vote the
first of what will likely be a few

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votes. McCarthy yesterday said, or
a Saturday said, bring it. He

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is of the mind that first of
all, he enjoys the support of about

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two hundred of the two hundred and
twenty one House Republicans. At best,

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Gates has maybe maybe about twenty Republicans
who are willing now to vote to oust

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McCarthy as speaker. We'll see how
it all shakes out. But the bigger

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question is what are the Democrats going
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currently as four hundred and thirty three
members, the House chooses its speaker,

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the House decides whether it oust the
speaker. A lot has been made about

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Matt Gates, but Matt Gates can't
do it alone. He can only do

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it if the Democrats side with him. So the question is, will the

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Democrats join up with Matt Gates to
devolve the House into chaos or will the

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Democrats to reject Gates's motion? Or
will Democrats sit on their hands, avoid

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the vote, or simply vote present, which adjusts the math in the House

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of Representatives, leaving it entirely up
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well, then there's no doubt that
McCarthy's position is safe, okay,

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because if they vote present, and
you've got the two hundreds who support and

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the twenty against, then that's all
that counts. That's exactly right. Then

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the vote would be two hundred and
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they could say, you know,
he did us a solid by keeping the

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government open, let's continue down this
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or a motion that would raise a
question of consideration. There a whole bunch

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of different parliamentary tactics that can be
used here. But the point is Democrats

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have a couple of options to derail
gates effort. If they want to propagate

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it, they simply have to vote
along with him okay. And then Gates

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said, oh, I'm gonna I
could do this every day. Yes,

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it sounds like a big waste of
everybody's time. Well, and that's why

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it's not likely to succeed in the
end. But but his perspective is well.

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Over time, as more Republicans wake
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done to undermine our our principles and
violate his promises and all these things,

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well, then the numbers could grow. But there's also a move to maybe

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talk about ousting Gates from the House. He's got a pending Ethics Committee investigation.

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That's true. You know, I
just love our talks because it's just

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never a dull moment. Thank you
so much, Stephen, and I'm glad

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that you were right on from you. Bet all right, take care,

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all right, good bye, all
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the stories coming out of the KFI
twenty four hour newsroom. Negotiators for actors

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and the major studios are expected back
at the bargaining table. Sag AFTER and

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the AMPTP have not held official talks
since the actor's strike began in July.

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The union's demands include general wage increases, protections against the use of actor images

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through artificial intelligence big sticking point there, higher compensation for successful streaming programs,

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and better health and retirement benefits.
Members of the Writers Guild of America are

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set to start voting on whether to
approve their new contract with the studios.

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The tentative deal was announced just over
a week ago, following five straight days

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of negotiations. It would officially end
the strike that started in May. Retail

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workers at Ontario International Airport have walked. They're gone. They've gone on strike

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following months of negotiations with the Hudson
Group. The union says previous contracts expired

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three years ago and negotiations stalled out
in January. Workers say they're tired of

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working full time and not making a
livable wage. A bill from an assemblywoman

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in Fullerton to prevent certain people from
owning a gun has been signed into law.

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The bill from Assemblywoman Sharing Quark Silva, closes a loophole that allowed criminal

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defendants who suffer from mental illness to
own or possess guns. The law prevents

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people in pre trial mental health diversion
programs for a felony or specified misdemeanor charge

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from owning a firearm until they successfully
complete diversion. A completed diversion program can

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prevent criminal convictions allowing a person to
get a gun anyway, but the new

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law signed last week allows prosecutors to
petition the court to prohibit gun possession if

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the person poses a threat to themselves
or others. In Fullerton, Corbin Carson

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of the Eli County DA's office, is

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suing the county. Brett Sereno claims
he was driven out of the office by

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intolerable conditions after the election of DA
George Gascon. Serreno now works in it

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for the county Fire Department. At
least nine people in northern Mexico have been

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killed when the roof of a church
collapsed during mass. About fifty people were

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hurt. Yesterday, rescuers were still
searching through the rebel. Late last night,

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dogs were being used to look for
possible survivors. The cold and flu

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season is right around the corner.
At Nutritionist doctor Michael Gargo says boosting your

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immune system will help you get ready
for it, but a good balanced diet

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you want to stay hydrated, sleep
and rest. I don't know why some

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people brag I only need three hours
of sleep. Stress management easy for me

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to say, hard to do.
Garko says getting enough sleep and managing chronic

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stress not only helps your body recover, but also strengthens the immune system.

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He says you might want to also
consider vitamin supplements. Okay, have you

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bought the new iPhone fifteen? I
don't have it yet. But they're getting

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a lot of complaints that these little
guys are overheating, and they're saying that

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they're overheating when they're charging. They're
overheating sometimes, like when you're playing an

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intensive thing like you're doing gaming.
Certain apps and Apple hadn't made an official

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comment, but now looks like it's
responding and saying we're going to work on

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that, and it may have to
do with the new operating system, the

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iOS seventeen. I believe it is. So they said that they're addressing it,

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and if it does have to do
with the operating system, then they'll

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send out a fix soon. I
think I'm gonna hold off on buying the

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fifteen for a little bit until they
fix it. Governor Newsom has appointed Democratic

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strategist and adviser to Kamala Harris's presidential
campaign, Lafonza Butler, to fill Diane

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Feinstein's Senate seat. Feinstein just died
last week at the age of ninety.

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With the appointment, Newsom made good
on a promise to appoint a black woman

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to fill the seat. Bus drivers
in Santa Clarita could soon be going on

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strike that could interrupt bus service in
the area, including for many high schools.

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Because the buses contract with the schools, LA County has eliminated cash bail

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for most crimes, most people arrested
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will be cited and released in the
field, or booked and then ordered to

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appear in court at a later date. People considered a danger to the public

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or a flight risk will have their
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oh five. It's handling the news. You're gonna want to stick around for

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Bill talking about this. One of
the nineteen people, including former President Trump,

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charged with allegedly trying to overturn the
election results in Georgia has cut a

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deal. Bill's going to talk about
what that could mean for Trump. Right

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now, let's say good morning to
ABC's Jim Ryan. Jim, I've never

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heard of this before and it kind
of caught my eyes, so I wanted

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to have you explained it to us. We've got saltwater from the Gulf of

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Mexico flowing upstream. Yes, all
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and what it means. Well,
the Mississippi River, of course, is

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freshwater. The headwaters are way up
in Minnesota. It actually step across the

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Mississippi River where it begins. It's
life. By the time it makes it

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down to the Gulf of Mexico,
it's wide and it's raging, and you

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know, you can read a lot
about it from Mark Twain. But right

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now, because of a drought,
the mouth of the Mississippi River. There's

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such low pressure there from lack of
rain that the salt water from the Gulf

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of Mexico is making its way up
into the Mississippi River. So it's gradually

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creeping up. They're pushing against what
normally would be pretty strong pressure. It's

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not strong pressure, and so you've
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the bottom of the river moving gradually
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communities like Burus, Louisiana, Placamun's
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isn't a sustained solid rainfall in the
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is the what's the effect of that? Though? Well, so much of

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the somebody of the communities there along
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the Mississippi, so it's brought in, it's cleaned, it's chlorinated, it's

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sound out into people's homes and businesses, and everything's great. Dealing with salt

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water, there's a different animal,
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causes damage to the water treatment facility
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if they if it actually makes it
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in the long term there are some
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not only New Orleans, but in
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toward the mouth of the Mississippi.
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said it could hit New Orleans,
but otherwise as it mainly small licens,

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small communities. Burausts is when I've
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kind of a fishing community, fairly
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of the Mississippi. But the local
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on October thirteenth, it could be
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then Saint Bernard Parish, then eventually
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on the east bank of the Mississippi
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really hoping to get the heavy rainfall
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the short term solution is kind of
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on barges up north, the up
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to go on the water and bringing
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barge that'll be put into the water
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water from getting in there. So
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using the source of the problem in
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least in the short term. And
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and stuff and bottled water. Yes, they're urging people not to go out

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and start panic buying and buying up
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which means they are will you oil. Probably it's going to look something like

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that before a hurricane comes and everybody
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food. You know. Kind it's
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they had eight inches of rain in
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would have just shifted that down south
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mean, it's it runs all the
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down to the Gulf of Mexico.
I think this one. And then there

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are are the rivers. I'm sure
that this could cause some problems too.

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The Arkansas River, which flows into
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Missouri there, But I suspect that
this is the most dramatic because this empties

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right out into the Gulf, the
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fresh water in the Mississippi, and
for right now it's winning that little tug

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of war. Okay, with the
saltwater flowing up. I mean, are

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they seeing like sharks in the Mississippi
and stufford you get that anyway along the

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Mississippi coast there in mississ state of
Misissippi, they have nerth sharks there occasionally

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Louisiana coast to Louisiana says, see
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so, and the river actually flow
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you know, it's susceptible to two
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Okay, well, we're going to
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the Mississippi River and along that so
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That's bizarre, but hey, modern
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let's do it modern like barges.
All right, Thanks so much,

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Jim Ran, appreciate you explaining that
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let's get back to some of the
stories coming out of the KFI twenty

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four our newsroom. Employees at Kaiser
Permanente could go on strike this week now

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that the labor contract for seventy five
thousand unionized healthcare workers has expired. Ninety

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eight percent of union members who voted
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a three day strike if an agreement
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for Kaiser says progress has been made
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to reject all calls for a strike. We're gonna have to wait and see

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on that one. Governor Newsom has
veto to bill that would have let striking

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workers collect unemployment benefits. His Vito
message to California has paid over three hundred

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and sixty two million dollars in interest
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during the pandemic, and he says
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workers, but now is not the
time to increase costs or incur as sizable

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debt. The three year pandemic pause
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That means twenty eight million people will
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Average federal student loan borrower owes more
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payments, averaging between two hundred and
three hundred dollars a month. ABC's Elizabeth

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Schulzy says a lot of borrowers had
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in court. The Biden administration says
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through a different law called the Higher
Education Act. A craving for tacos is

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paid off big for a couple near
Sacramento. They had just returned from an

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overseas trip when they stopped at their
favorite taco truck and Patterson Tim Dine says

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he usually runs over and gets a
lottery scratch it from across the street when

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he gets the taco, So he
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a million dollars, and that's just
you know, that's just a pittance compared

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to Powerball. There was no winner
on Saturday nights, so the Powerball jack

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bodies up again over a billion dollars. The estimated jackpot is worth one point

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zero four billion dollars. Four tonight's
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largest powerball prize. Sag After and
the Hollywood Studios are scheduled to set down

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four negotiations for the first time since
actors walked out in mid July. AI

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and streaming continue to be big sticking
points. Former President Trump is expected to

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be in New York City today for
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General Letitia James has accused Trump and
his family of fraud for inflating his net

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worth, which James said gave Trump
better terms than he deserved from lenders and

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insurers. A full length film about
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first. Taylor Swift's Era's concert tour
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on October thirteenth. It sold twenty
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the first day they were available.
At six oh five, it's handle on

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the news. Zero bail goes into
effect in La County. Actually it was

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effective yesterday at least a dozen cities
or pushing back and suing to get the

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new policy blocked. At five fifty, We're going to be talking with the

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executive director of the Innocent Center who
helped free that man in southern California who

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was wrongly accused and convicted and spent
twenty eight years in prison for a crime

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he didn't commit. His sentence was
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is now a freeman. Let's get
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the KFI twenty four hour newsroom.
President Biden has signed a bill to keep

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the government running, which gives Congress
another forty five days to agree on a

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spending plan. Quite frankly, I'm
sick and tired. I'm sick and tired

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of the brinksmanship and so an American
people. The temporary bill does not include

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the steep spending cuts that some conservatives
wanted. It also cut out more than

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four billion dollars Democrats wanted for Ukraine. Republican Congressman Matt Gates has threatened to

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remove Kevin McCarthy as speaker for working
with Democrats on the temporary spending bill and

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not reigning and spending. I am
relentless and I will continue to pursue this

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objective. McCarthy says he'll survive.
Bring it on, let's get over with

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it, and let's start governing.
Gates says he will use a procedural tool

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called a motion to vacate to try
to strip McCarthy out of his office as

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soon as this week. Two men
from Riverside have been arrested for allegedly distracting

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an elderly woman outsider home in Huntington
Beach while one of them stole fifty thousand

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dollars from her purse. The seventy
nine year old was approached two weeks ago

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when she got home from the bank. Police say that type of crime is

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known as bank jugging, where thieves
pay attention to bank customers who withdraw cash

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and then follow them home to rob
them. At least twelve cities in La

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County have joined together to sue the
county over its new zero bail policy.

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The group of cities filed a last
minute complaint on Friday. Beginning yesterday or

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most nonviolent offenders are going to be
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and then just released. County officials
say the new policy equalizes an unbalanced bail

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system. Critics say the new program
is a threat to public safety. Some

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people who got Apple's iPhone fifteen Pro
and Pro macs have complained the new devices

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get too hot, both while using
and charging the devices. Some users say

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they believe the issue could be triggered
by certain apps running in the background,

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such as Instagram or Uber. Apple
Tech support has referred customers to an old

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support article on how to handle an
iPhone that feels too hot or too cold.

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The notice says overheating could occur when
using intensive apps, charging, or

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setting up a new device for the
first time. Time to check in now

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with ABC News correspondent Tom Rivers,
Good morning Tom. This one has kind

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of flown under the radar. Armenian
refugees are fleeing their homes by the thousands.

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Can you tell us why they're going
and what's happening over there? Good

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morning Abby, Yeah, well,
don't you know what you think? Back

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this has been a sore spot going
back about thirty years, but it really

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really ramped up just over a week
ago in Azerbaijan in essence, fired volleys

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of artillery shells in and basically after
twenty four forty eight hours, the Armenians,

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the ethnic Armenian said enos enough and
they're packing their bags. Total population

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ethnic Armenians about one hundred and twenty
thousand, and by the latest count,

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over one hundred and five thousand have
now split down a mountainous road to Armenia

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proper. So yes, it's it's
kind of game over. And these people

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have left their homes, small businesses, livestock fill in the blank, packing

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whatever they have on their backs or
in cars or in busses, and that's

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it, saying that they can't carry
on any longer there and Azerbaijan will in

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essence take over within the next day
or two at city Hall. And these

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are this isn't like a military stronghold. It's just an area where people are

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living Is that correct? Yeah,
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Armenians are a different background, Christian
background, and basically, why why

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have they left? Why didn't they
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make some compromises. They're fearing reprisals, they're fearing as well, losing their

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freedom to use their language, to
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cetera. So again, by the
latest count, eighty five to ninety percent

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have already left the UN after something
like thirty years. But they're back monitoring,

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kind of twiddling their thumbs, watching
this exodus, this outflow of humanity,

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and not a whole lot they can
do. Is the US helping at

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all? Not really, just if
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Armenians. But but that's it,
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They are, they're using that language. In fact, the leader in

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Armenia itself who's using that particular phrase, and you know others have been saying

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today, you know, what can
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do? At this stage? All
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aid in the way of the pockets
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that are going to have to start
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itself. But it doesn't look like
they're going to get the support to like

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say, oh hey, you guys
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You're gone, see you right,
Yeah, when no one is egging

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for a fight as it is,
over, game over, the horses bolted.

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That's just crazy if you think of
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Yeah, exactly, you know here, we're gonna move you out.

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We're gonna start bombing you. We're
gonna clear out Huntington Beach. You know.

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I'm taking over your host, host, Amy, goodbye, have a

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nice life in Phone, Nebraska wherever
you Yeah, exactly. All right,

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Tom Rivers, thank you so much. Appreciate your time today. Take care.

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It's really disturbing. Hey, flipping
over to a happier things. Nick,

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Paulo Chini and I went out and
about to the Pacific Air Show yesterday.

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Good morning Nick, Good morning Amy. Yeah. So this was fun.

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I haven't been to an air show
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wanting to go to the Pacific Air
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then Kafi is involved with it and
we've had so many great stories about it,

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and I tell you it did not
disappoint yesterday that was amazing. That

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show was rocking so and it's obviously
it's over now, but just kind of

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put it on your radar, put
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year, like it's it's worth the
trip. And we saw F fifteens,

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F thirty five's for a Hornet,
FA eighteens, the Canadian Snowbirds, the

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Air Force Thunderbirds of course, and
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of the cow fire see one thirty. Oh my gosh to see one thirty.

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And you have to check it out
on Instagram either Nick poly'keiny this week

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I with Nike, Amy k King
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all of those have it. It
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they respond as a fire and rescue
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three one thousand cubic I don't know
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that was being poured over Huntington Beach. That was amazing. Also, we

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saw the paratroopers when we were for
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and like exactly yeah. And then
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saw a couple of friends, right
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So we're sitting there and they have
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They're like a hopped up golf cart
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it, and I go, jeez, that looks a lot like Maverick and

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Iceman. And I was like,
holy cow, it's Maverick and Iceman and

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these guys. I know they're actors, let's be straight, but these guys

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were like dead ringers for Tom Cruise
and Valkan. It was well and it

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was you know them thirty years ago
when when Top Gun first came out,

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and so I ran up to him. I'm like, hey, I mean

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and they you know, they waved
and pointed, and then they did they

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stopped and took pictures with people a
little bit later, and so we ran

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over there. So you gotta go
check out my Instagram. I'm totally fan

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girl these guys. But it's at
Emmy Kiking And did you put it up

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in yours? Tunic? Did I
have a different It been us so yeah,

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so that's over there also Nick poly
O'Kenny or This Weekend with Nick.

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Yeah, so check it out.
So that was really just a fun treat

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and like smart of the air of
the air show to do that, I

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think it was fun for everybody.
So there was fun on the ground,

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there was fun in the air,
and it was just a spectacular show.

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Even of a FedEx seven fifty seven
did a fly by and that's a huge

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plane flying right. Yeah, it
was so cool. So and you know

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they have they have it goes on
for like a mile along the coast,

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so there's tons of areas that you
can just go and watch it, and

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then there's the actual air show area
where you can hear you can hear the

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music and the announcers and really get
the play by play of what's going on.

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But either way, it's just a
fabulous way to spend the day.

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It was so great, So highly
recommend that for next year. Right now,

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let's say good morning to the executive
director of the Innocent Center, Michael

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Samancheck. Good morning, Michael,
good morning, and thank you for having

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me. Oh, thank you for
making the time to come on this.

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This came out last week and I
was like, we got to get these

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guys on because this is this is
a story that made me incredibly happy and

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incredibly sad at the same time,
and that was that Gerardo Cabanius is now

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a freeman. He was wrongly convicted
and served twenty eight years in prison.

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How how'd you get him out?
Well, mister Cabanius was wrongfully convicted.

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He had twenty eight years ago.
He was brought in by a detective and

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falsely confessed to the crime, and
that false confession was then used to convince

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the victims that to make a bad
eyewitness identification. And so about two and

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a half years ago, three years
ago, we were lucky enough to get

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some DNA testing going and the DNA
testing, the test results came back and

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excluded him from from being involved in
the crimes he was convicted of, and

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we worked with the Los Angeles Just
District Attorney's Conviction Integrity Unit to reverse the

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conviction and we got about okay.
And had mister kevani AS's case been on

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your radar because you said two and
a half years ago you got some DNA

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evidence, But had you been trying
to figure out things for him before that

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time or is that kind of when
he came to your attention. We started

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working on his case five or six
years ago. It takes a lot of

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time, energy, and resources to
reverse the conviction in the United States.

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It's just on average, I think
it takes roughly about sixteen years for a

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person to get their conviction reversed in
the US. And that's so that's just

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as we really just believe in finality
in the US, and it makes it

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all the more difficult to reverse these
convictions even when they're is okay, So

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take us back a little bit,
because I want to talk about mister kevany

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As. He was eighteen when he
was arrested, and it was a pretty

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heinous crime. Yeah, So there
was the he was just a child.

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There were there were two men that
were committing crimes in January of nineteen ninety

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six. They were they would go
and find people sitting in cars in a

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park and they would they would rob
them. Sometimes they would sectually assault women

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if they were in their cars.
And that's what happened in two instances in

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nineteen ninety five. And and so
the victims had reported their crimes to police

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and a few days after one of
the crimes happened. Mister Kabaneus was standing

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on a corner wearing red pants.
One of the one of the witnesses had

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described perfect for wearing red pants,
and that's how he initially got picked up.

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And then they got him in there
and he didn't have a lawyer with

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him, and they said confess,
and he did. Why did he confess?

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Yeah? So he was made a
lot of promises by this detective that

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was known for eliciting false confessions,
and he he was always going to get

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home, and he was told,
hey, why don't you just just just

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confessed to this one little robbery and
then and then you'll be gone and you'll

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you'll be home on probation. And
so he is in there for hours,

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seven hours, and eventually just decides, like as an eighteen year old katie

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trust law enforcement says, final,
well, I'll say I did this so

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I can go home, and says
he does it. They bring in another

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detective and then they start recording and
it's at that point he finds out that

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it's not just a robbery, it's
actually all of these crimes where he's you

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know, kid napped a woman and
sexually assaulted or in a house, all

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stuff that he didn't he had no
knowledge of, but he had confessed because

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he thought he was going home.
Okay, and in nineteen ninety six,

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we didn't have the availability of the
DNA evidence, so there was no way

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to disassociate him from the crime basically, and he had confessed, So why

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wouldn't they can right? Yeah,
right, I mean, we had DNA

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testing, but it required a lot
of genetic material in order to develop a

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profile. And so, yeah,
we have this confession, and who wouldn't

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believe a confession because at the time
we didn't really have all of the data

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that we have. Now we know
that about twelve percent of the thirty three

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hundred roleful convictions in the United States
have involved a false confession. And yeah,

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that DNA wasn't quite good enough at
the time to get a full profile

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from the evidence that existed. Okay, So Michael, you must get people

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saying every day I didn't do it, I didn't do it, I didn't

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do it, and they did.
What convinced you that this guy was telling

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the truth? Well, like all
of our cases, you have to go

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and do an investigation and make an
assessment as to whether or not it deserves

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limited resources to try to get somebody
out, and in this one, it

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had all the hallmarks of a false
confession. So as we already mentioned his

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age, the fact that none of
it was recorded, the fact that this

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detective had done this in other cases
and there was we had evidence to suggest

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that he had been involved in a
listening false confessions and others. The fact

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that none of the confession really added
up and made sense. Yeah, and

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then we knew that there was this
DNA that we could go out and test.

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And so once the results came back
and it confirmed what we thought that

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in fact he was he had falsely
confessed, it became a whole lot easier,

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and it was just a matter of
fitting it together and figuring out what

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had happened, and that that part
happened by working with the Los Angeles District

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Attorney's office. That's got to be
so like exciting for you when you go,

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we've got one who really and we've
got a chance at getting him out,

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Like doesn't kind of makes all the
work worthwhile. Absolutely, Yeah,

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when you was you know, there's
been a couple of days where you know

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that stick out of my mind.
When the DNA results come back and you

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get chilled, and at the same
time, it's it's also like, you

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know, it's kind of like it
really you have to put your foot in

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the gas because you at the absolutely
know at that point the person's innocent and

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they're sitting there like you might have
had an inkling for a while, but

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then you've get that confirmation and it's
like, wow, we've really got to

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get working fast here. And then
the day, the moment that you walk

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up her person out of prison is
really just one of the best days of

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my life and certainly of their's.
Yeah, and so what's next for mister

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Keviny is, you know, like
a lot of people that spend almost three

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decades in prison, he's got to
learn to live back on the outside again.

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And prison is a is a challenging
place. It's emotionally and mentally draining,

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and you live a different life in
prison. So he's gonna, hopefully,

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you know, slowly but surely,
figure out how best to live his

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life on the outside and and catch
up a family that he hasn't really been

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able to see When he went to
prison. His daughter was eight months old

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and she's almost thirty, and so
spending time with his daughter and his loved

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ones that he hasn't really had a
chance to see for the last three decades.

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Yeah, well, certainly give give
him our best. And you know,

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I'm all for bad guys serving time
for the bad things that they do,

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but every once in a while,
when you get someone like this,

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it's so like it's just gratifying to
hear that you're you're able to get them

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out. So thanks, thanks for
the work that you do. Michael Semanchik

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with the Innocent Center, we appreciate
your time this morning. Yeah, thank

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you again for having me and go
to the Innocent Center dot org and support

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00:39:30.519 --> 00:39:34.840
our work. We take donations and
we'd love to have everyone insight. You

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got it. Thank you so much, Michael. Than what a story.

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Isn't that amazing? And gosh,
I can't even imagine like relearning the world

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on the outside after all this time. I mean, and I know that

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cell phones get into jails and that
kind of stuff, but just everything that's

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going on now that wasn't around thirty
years ago. We lead local live from

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