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We did have a breakout to an
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only a daily breakout, and then
the gold price came right back down into

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that three month consolidation. So it's
building a stronger base here. Gold bounced

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host, Carrie lets Hey, what's going

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on with the price of Goal silver? Silver's under thirty dollars? It's not

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a huge bargain. Is it going
up the three hundred? Like Eric Sprout

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predicts, Well, let's find out
with David Earfley, Junior minor junkie with

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a y dot com and has got
a question for David myself. Email kl

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Kerrie. Let's go out David,
how are you doing there, Ron Grey

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Kerry, how are you always nice
to see it? Oh? Lece so

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go Like, we haven't been able
to break twenty five hundred yet, so

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we're getting closer, closer, closer, not quite there. Every time it

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gets closed, something seems to happen. Yeah. What Well. Since we

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had that monumental breakout of that thirteen
year cup and handle pattern above twenty one

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hundred back in March, gold's been
making higher highs and higher loads. You

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know, we had a four hundred
and fifty dollars move in the space of

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about nine weeks, and that's that
move's been consolidating for about three months now,

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but it's making higher highs and higher
lows in that consolidation. We did

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have a we did have a breakout
to an all time high recently, but

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it was only a daily breakout up
and then the and then the gold price

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came right back down into that three
month consolidation. So it's building a stronger

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base here. Gold bounced off.
It's a rising eighteen week moving average has

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been pretty strong support for the past
year or so, so it came down

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to test that, which at the
time was around twenty three hundred, and

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silver has just tested, it's eighteen
We move a average here this past week,

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I think it was this week,
and it's tried to it's it's trying

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to stay in its consolidation as well, So you know, it's all it's

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all good as far as the metals
are concerned. I mean, they're they're

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at a bull market. They're making
higher highs and higher lows. So question

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it is, do we go buy
silver now? Is it worth doing it?

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Do we this the run? What
are you there? Well, you

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know, silver's got a long way
to go as far as catching up to

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the gold price. You know,
the inflation adjusted gold CPI inflation adjusted gold

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prices around twenty six ninety something like
that, which which you know we're not

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too far away from that, but
and that's from nineteen eighty. But when

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the Hunt Brothers tried to corner the
silver market in nineteen eighty, the the

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you know, the silver price got
up to fifty bucks and the inflation adjusted

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price for silver CPI inflation adjusted price
for silver is around one hundred and fifty

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hundred and sixty dollars. So silver
is still massively undervalued in relation to the

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gold price, and as well as
the gold stocks. You see, you

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know, the goals mining sector and
silver both have been underperforming gold for quite

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some time. Where do you get
more leverage with the stocks or with silver?

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I mean, if it's going to
go up to one hundred and fifty,

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that's that's a five bagger if it
goes up that high. What did

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the stocks do? Are they one
hundred five hundred beggars? Yeah? Well,

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I mean you said your question was
you go with silver or the stocks?

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How about silver stocks? But there's
really not that many that I think

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are worth investing in. You got
you got to get a hold of a

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basket of the right ones, and
all that's going to take is just a

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one or two of them to fly, and you're going to do really well.

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I mean, this is what happened
with me. Fortunately, back in

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the two thousand and eight to twenty
eleven run up. I got into a

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couple of silver stocks. At the
time, they were relatively unknown. One

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was First Majestic Silver and the other
one, yeah, and the other one

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at the time was Wheat and was
wheatn yeah, over called silver Wheaton then

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and I got into those really heavy
and you know, they were multiple,

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you know, ten fifteen to twenty
baggers for me. Yeah, heya.

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You know, I really cleaned up
on the first Majestic. They hadn't listed

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warrants back then, and I loaded
up of it. I mean I didn't

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put enough money in it, unfortunately, but it was like a twelve bagger

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in like two weeks. Yeah,
yeah, I think there, Yeah,

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warrants you get. You got to
get the time being on those and you

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get to do really well. Yeah. So but now there aren't, like

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you said, it's not any silver
pure plays that you want to touch,

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right, yeah, absolutely, You
just you've got to really do your homework

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and get into the right ones at
the right time, and then be very

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patient. And with what's going on
in the world, it seems to me

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like we're looking all over the world
for this stuff, but the jurisdiction or

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risk is increasing by the day,
right it is. And then you have

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these top tier jurisdictions also in North
America, where you know, they're fabulous

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jurisdictions to operate in. But as
far as getting the getting your your project

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permitted, that could take a really
long time. So for for instance,

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and you know in Canada and in
the US, it might take you know,

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seven eight, nine years to finally
get your your proud year project permitted

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once you get close to to the
feasibility stage and you've got to wait several

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more years to get it permitted.
But then the flip side of that,

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you've got some of these West African
companies cut countries where the governments own you

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know, a portion of the mind
and they want to get you permitted quickly.

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So you know, you could go
from discovery to construction within three or

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four years in some of these West
African countries. That's like the only place

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really in the world where you can
do that, right absolutely, yeah,

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but you just you but but then
you know you've got to deal with with

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with with the West African risk as
well. Yeah, so you've got to

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governments come and go like forget it, right, Yeah. I mean there's

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you know in a place like Burkina
Faso where there's you know, there's a

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coup every couple of months, there's
you know, but as far as the

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but as far as the country is
concerned, you know, these these mines

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get permitted quickly. A lot of
gold mines have been built in Burkina Faso

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in the past twenty years, and
their discoveries are made and then permits are

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given quickly and the mind is constructed. Uh and and the company does really

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well, but still not as well
as a top tier jurisdiction because uh,

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investors see that it's West Africa.
They feel, okay, this is this

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is a risky place to do business, even though the mine is doing well,

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the company is doing well. That
you've got it. You've got you

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know, a discount on the share
price, and of course you got productivity

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issues once you get outside if you
get it so called top tier jurisdicitions,

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right right exactly, Yeah, wild, yeah, I mean it's it's yeah,

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it's it's funny because you know,
during the last major bowl market in

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the mining sector from two thousand and
one to twenty eleven, especially towards the

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end there, permitting really wasn't an
issue. Uh. You know, investors

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they were just clamoring for more ounces. They were, they were there,

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they were you know, they were
they were telling their the majors that they

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were owning, Hey, we need
more ounces golds flying you know, care

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we needed at any price. So
they invested in you know, these low

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grade bulk tonnage projects just to get
ounces on their books, and permitting wasn't

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it wasn't even issue. Nobody even
looked at that at them. So when

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we last spoke, we talked about
a little company probably remember called Numat,

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Yes and Numat at the time I
believe was forty one or two. It's

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now hit forty eight, and that's
anticipating blockbuster earning. It's coming up.

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I was planning to buy options,
but in the account where I wanted to

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buy them, I didn't have options. Authorization didn't. But I knew it

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was going to happen because we said
they're doing like a couple of million ounces

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a quarter, and you multiply that
time it's three four hundred dated right,

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hidden that's like right, And they
had already written everything off. They were

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smart, Like year two years ago, they said we're getting rid of all

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this stuff. They wrote off everything
but the kitchen, saying they took their

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it because they knew this was coming
right, smart, right, Yeah,

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absolutely, I mean, and now
they're you know, they're basically in a

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league by themselves after they gobbled up
New Crest and they're they're producing nearly twice

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as much as the number two gold
miner, which is now a Nico Eagle.

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You know, Eric keeps keeps getting
getting lower and lower as they're they're

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not jumping on the M and A
bandwagon. But as far as Neumon is

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concerned, you know, it's interesting
you bring them up because they're going to

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be kicking off Q two earning season
after the bell today here on Wednesday,

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and I expect their profits to be
record breaking, monster profits because if you

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take a look at what happened with
them in Q one, you know,

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they they they had they had blowout
profits and the stock went up twelve and

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a half percent the day they announced
earnings, and it was by far the

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largest gainer on the S and P
five hundred. And by the way,

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Numon is the only gold miner on
the five hundred, and we're going to

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have these they're there their Q two
announcement after the bell today, like I

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said, and the gold price back
then averaged around twenty seventy to twenty ninety

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that announce back in Q one,
and in Q two the gold price averaged

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two hundred and fifty dollars higher,
and the oil price, which is probably

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about fifty to sixty percent of Newmont's
costs. Because you know, they have

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these huge open pit diesel guzzling gold
mines, right, and that the oil

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price went down sixteen per sixteen dollars
during Q two, so their costs are

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probably going to be either flat or
a little lower, while the gold price

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went up two hundred and fifty dollars. So I expect numont is probably going

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to be announcing another monster quarter.
And nobody's really paying attention as far as

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the street's concerned. You take a
look at the at the at the volume

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and GDX and GDX j ever sets
it ever sets gold hit another all time

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high here a couple of weeks ago. The volume has been decreasing down,

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down, lower and lower as everybody's
still concentrating on the stock market, right,

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So nobody's really expecting what new mas
Is is about to announce, I

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think, and you know, once
if they if they come out with another

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blowout quarter, that's back to back
quarters. They're going any fund managers and

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been big money traders there, they're
they no longer can ignore this sector.

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You know, they've been ignoring the
gold mining sector for the past decade.

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I mean in twenty thirteen, twenty
twelve, twenty thirteen, when the gold

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price lost fifteen hundred dollars an ounce. That's when the bottom fell out of

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the mining sector and the generalist investor
left in mass and they've yet to return.

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And you and the evidence of that
is just looking at the volume of

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GDX and GDXJG just keep sitting lower
and lower and lower. And the old

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adage never short a dull market comes
to mind. You know, we've got

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today, We've got the stock market
is rolling over and gold and the gold

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stocks are going higher. They're starting
to decouple. That's not a trend,

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you know, that's that this is
this is just day one. I don't

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know if that's going to continue,
but I know the Magnificent seven stocks lost

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about a one point three trillion in
value in one week recently. They went

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to a to a total market cap
of seventeen trillion down to fifteen trillion recently

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here. So I think there's going
to see You're going to start to see

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some sector rotation coming into the gold
mining stocks, especially if you see back

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to back blowout quarters from these miners. Yeah, well, look got a

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nimock was an easy one. And
the best thing was even in Q one

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they had some write offs there that
kind of artificially the press, right,

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and they announced divesting their their by
divesting some non core astes, they're going

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to pay off some debt. So
their ballant sheet is getting stronger and stronger.

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And that's happening with a lot of
these gold companies, right, I

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mean, that was the thing right
back during the last full market. Their

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balance sheets were crap, and they
took on all these projects that needed higher

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gold prices and they did it with
stock. So it kind of kind of

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ruined the industry for a decade.
But now they've come back strong and they've

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got really they got really strong ballot
sheets. They're paying dividends. I mean

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back when I got into this sector
twenty years ago, it was unheard of

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that a minor paid a dividend.
Definitely, So they're paying dividends, they're

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doing stock buybacks, their ballot sheets
are healthy. Now they've got to start

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concentrating on growth. So that's where
the juniors coming because the reserves are declining.

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We know exactly the resources they're declining, and they got to be looking

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for they discoveries and that's where the
high quality not an oxy war on jiniors

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come in. And you know there's
about ten percent of them out there that

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have something. But you know,
I've been in the business long enough,

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like you. I was looking at
a list of companies from It's Ticket was

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back in like twenty eleven or maybe
it was twenty thirteen that one of the

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conferences, and you know what covered
there were some old dogs that just never

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die. But most of those companies
they've been I don't know if they've been

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rebranded, they didn't exist anywhere,
but they've been gobbled up or they've gone

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under. Yeah, I mean there's
yeah, the turnover is is you know,

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could be large. You know,
there's there's a lot of lifestyle companies

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in the junior sector. I mean, I'm with Rick Rule, you know.

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I mean that eighty eighty five percent
of them are uninvestable. So you

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know, really got to get you
got to you got to sharpen your pencil

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and do your due diligence and make
sure you're getting into the right one because

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you know, you want to you
want to make sure to to to accumulate

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a basket of them because like I
said before, you know you're gonna have

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You're gonna have some dogs. It's
gonna happen. Yeah, you know,

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it's it's like a it's like a
hitter in baseball, right, you're in

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the Hall of Fame if you if
you go twenty years and you have a

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battering, you average over three hundred. Well, it's the same thing in

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picking junior stocks. You have you
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ten, you're doing well, like
any think. So all right, that's

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obviously why people need to subscribe to
Junior minor Junkie and just tell us what

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you do and just let me stay
up front. What I'm like best is

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when you give a buy reco or
a settle, you wait before you execute

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your own trade to let your subscribers
get in, which is the utmost of

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them. Heygardie in an area where
it's sometimes lacking. Absolutely, Yeah,

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when I started my newsletter back and
now back in April of twenty seventeen,

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it doesn't seem like it was long
ago. But I wanted to make sure

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that I was completely transparent and that
basically, you know, I'm whatever I

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invest whatever I'm I'm recommending others invest
in that I'm going to invest in also,

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and I want to want to give
them the opportunity to get in.

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At the same time, I do. So what I do is I if

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I'm if I'm about to purchase a
a position in a junior, I'll do

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a detailed company report on the stock
and I'll send it out to my subscribers

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the day the day before I plan
on beginning to accumulate the stock, so

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we could kind of all try to
get in it together and hold it and

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hold it for a period of time
to where it's going to make us at

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least three to ten times our money. I won't touch a junior unless I

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see at least three times potentials three
times upside potential in the stock. So

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basically, it's a completely transparent service. I let everybody know what my trades

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are, what I buy, what
I sell, how much I made,

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how much I lost, and it's
it's done really well. I got a

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great subscriber base, and I work
very hard. You know. The the

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newsletter comes out every week. It's
a weekly newsletter, and even if I'm

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on vacation, it's sure it's a
scale down one. But I still put

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out of weekly newsletters because that's because
I love I love my job and I

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love helping people make money in the
sector. Hey, all right, so

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we've got a cross over, David
or myself she meet emailed Kate el at

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Caerrie Loves dot com. The link
to junior writer Junkie dot com is in

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the show notes of this interview on
Financial Survival Network dot com. While you're

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there, sign up for your free
newsletter. David, It's going to be

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interesting and be interesting to see how
long this ride lasts. Absolutely, yeah,

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I think the second half of the
year is going to be really is

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going to do really well for investors
in the in the junior sector. Thanks

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for listening to Carrie Letz's Financial Survival
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