1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,400 The nex Stefan Good Day download with Doug and Jay Kirshner is made possible in 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:08,039 part by Keltren, which is the safe way for you to lose weight and 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:12,359 keep it off, and also by previgent keeping your brain healthy. It's the 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,320 Good Day Program. I'm Doug Stefan along with Do I say that too quickly? 5 00:00:16,559 --> 00:00:23,839 I kind of slurred Doug Steffan, Doug step and Jay Kirshner. The 6 00:00:23,879 --> 00:00:32,960 fate of New Jersey Senator Bob Menendez is being more closely scrutinized. I suppose 7 00:00:33,039 --> 00:00:38,000 maybe his fate is sealed as far as I'm concerned. He's been charged with 8 00:00:38,119 --> 00:00:44,479 acting as a foreign agent. This guy has been slimy for years, so 9 00:00:45,039 --> 00:00:50,759 the Egyptians have been using him, apparently for whatever he was on the Senator 10 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:55,159 Foreign Relations Committee. As a matter of fact, he was Chairman Jay for 11 00:00:55,439 --> 00:00:59,359 a number of years. Prosecutors say he's been acting as a foreign agent for 12 00:00:59,799 --> 00:01:06,640 Egypt in terms of passing sensitive information. There's a federal grand jury that has 13 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:15,120 been arguing that Menendez has violated what they call a foreign Agent Registration Act. 14 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:19,319 He's been paid off by the Egyptians. It's kind of embarrassing. For the 15 00:01:19,359 --> 00:01:23,959 Egyptians as much as it is for him. It is. Yeah, right, 16 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:29,439 So anyway, I've never thought he was and there's something about him, 17 00:01:30,439 --> 00:01:34,159 and I suppose I could be criticized for this. He just looks like he's 18 00:01:34,239 --> 00:01:41,480 kind of a worm and he doesn't come across as as someone who gives you 19 00:01:41,599 --> 00:01:46,840 confidence that they're cool when it comes to business dealings or anything like that. 20 00:01:46,879 --> 00:01:49,200 And his new wife also is up to her mickey in this one. Well, 21 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,000 we shouldn't judge a book by its cover. We shoudn't judge people based 22 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,439 on her looks. But in this specific scenario, you are correct. Well, 23 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:02,200 thank you, all right. Anyway, what he's actually charged with they 24 00:02:02,239 --> 00:02:07,400 get into his safety deposit box and they found four hundred and eighty thousand dollars 25 00:02:07,479 --> 00:02:15,319 in cash envelope some of this, right, Yeah, yeah, I think 26 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:20,639 Bill Maher had a joke about that on his program last Friday night, about 27 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,879 where he keeps his cash. There are a lot of jokes certainly that will 28 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:31,039 come out of this. But also he's got supposedly Egyptians paid for his Mercedes 29 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:39,719 Benz convertible, and she was involved in that car. She struck and killed 30 00:02:39,759 --> 00:02:46,639 somebody and I'm not sure whatever happened with that. That happened over in Europe, 31 00:02:46,759 --> 00:02:53,199 right, Yeah, I believe that she was released of all charges because 32 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:59,680 of who she is. So the phrase I'm forgetting yeah right, diplomatic community, 33 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:04,120 Uh huh, yeah, I could. All right, here's the story 34 00:03:04,159 --> 00:03:09,080 of these three who could face assault charges in Boston. Remember that Patriots fan 35 00:03:09,159 --> 00:03:13,840 who got punched and died a couple of three. I think it was the 36 00:03:13,879 --> 00:03:17,280 first Patriots game of the season. Yeah, and Jillette Stadium. Good, 37 00:03:17,599 --> 00:03:24,199 they all should face Yeah, well, basically they should go to jail for 38 00:03:24,319 --> 00:03:30,199 a long time disorderly conduct. Yeah, that's that's putting it mildly. It's 39 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:35,400 amazing they aren't getting manslaughter, but I guess they're they're you know, it'ssumed. 40 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,759 They're not at fault for the heart attack, but assault chest they are 41 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:42,879 a less Yes they are. No, they are at fault for this guy 42 00:03:42,919 --> 00:03:46,879 wouldn't have had an art game. But how can you prove that we would 43 00:03:46,919 --> 00:03:49,199 have had a heart attack that day? How can you prove that you wouldn't 44 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,080 have had a heart attack at some point that day? I can prove anything. 45 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,280 Give me a few minutes and I'll find the way to lawyer Doug. 46 00:03:55,719 --> 00:04:00,960 Yeah, that's right, right, especial lawyer Doug. All right. Not 47 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:06,280 a good day for the Eisley Brothers, one of the founding members of this 48 00:04:06,759 --> 00:04:13,439 fabulous Rhythm and Bruce Bruce could how about I put an ail in there someplace. 49 00:04:13,719 --> 00:04:19,000 Rhythm and Blues they described as stalwarts by many people from the music isle 50 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:25,480 Isisley Brothers. Rudolph Eesley passed away at the age of eighty four yesterday. 51 00:04:26,079 --> 00:04:29,959 There are probably very few people who haven't heard or have been influenced, no 52 00:04:29,959 --> 00:04:33,639 matter what your age, by the music of the Isisley Brothers. I've been 53 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:39,279 a fan ember since they first I think I've played some of this stuff when 54 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:44,199 I was still a disc jockey. It's just something about the way it just 55 00:04:44,639 --> 00:04:48,959 it just got you. Well, those groups and the music that they came 56 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:56,079 out with. It's like there are three or four groups from that era, 57 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:00,759 like Jane the Americans also what they when you when you listen to him, 58 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:06,079 you got something from it. And so anyway, just how talented they all 59 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:11,680 were. Yeah, yeah, right, exactly, all right. So Rudolph 60 00:05:11,879 --> 00:05:15,560 Isley wrote a lot of the tunes. I remember seeing them on Soul Train 61 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,639 all right, So I gotta check with James and Jay. You both know 62 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:24,439 what soul Train is. I am familiar with it. I've never seen it, 63 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:28,600 but there are a lot of clips that are used at different memes on 64 00:05:28,639 --> 00:05:30,839 social media. I am not familiar with. Okay, well you go. 65 00:05:31,319 --> 00:05:34,959 I spent your weekend listening to some of this stuff on it. The way 66 00:05:34,959 --> 00:05:40,639 they harmonized. I was thinking about them and Jackie Wilson, who was another 67 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:45,480 guy that was from this era, the energy that they brought to the music. 68 00:05:45,519 --> 00:05:48,360 But this is the story of this song. Particularly, this was the 69 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,800 early nineteen sixties. This whole Heart of Mine is week for you. It 70 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:58,199 was a big during Motown's heyday. This was this State is number one for 71 00:05:58,319 --> 00:06:02,319 like fourteen weeks in the charts. They really had it. And it's too 72 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:08,399 bad. But these guys getting older. They started in the fifties and so 73 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:13,240 during the sixties and the seventies they were just all over the place, constantly 74 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,920 on the radio, and for good reason, because this stuff is good, 75 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:24,759 which is anything else. And then there's you know, the songs like it's 76 00:06:24,879 --> 00:06:28,279 your thing, maybe we'll touch onto that. I just when I see these 77 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,399 things, you know, it sort of makes you I guess conscious of your 78 00:06:31,439 --> 00:06:38,120 age as much as anything else. 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And we've been talking a lot this week a 94 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:57,519 good day about the old fossils that have been found, but the footprint that 95 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,199 was thirty thousand years old or something that somebody found down in New Mexico. 96 00:08:01,399 --> 00:08:07,040 So now a rare mammal from one hundred and eighty million years ago has been 97 00:08:07,079 --> 00:08:11,839 found in Utah. Isn't that exciting? It really is this around the early 98 00:08:11,959 --> 00:08:18,160 Jurassic period. All people who don't know about the history of anything, they 99 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:22,160 think Jurassic Park is about something that is happening now. The reason is called 100 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:28,639 Jurassic Park is because during the Dinosaur era it was referred to as the Jurassic 101 00:08:28,759 --> 00:08:35,320 Period. Anyway, Sonia, the Park Service says that a National Recreation Area 102 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:41,600 in Utah. This field crew is out there working and they found this first. 103 00:08:41,799 --> 00:08:46,120 I can't pronounce who can pronounce the name of most of these other than 104 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:52,960 my grandson. Most of these dinosaurs Tridillo, Daunton, bone bed. I 105 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,879 got bone bed. Good for you, congratulations. This is in the Navajo 106 00:08:58,039 --> 00:09:03,320 area too. The Navajo Indians were but fossil history is fascinating in that it 107 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:11,519 tells us a lot about the The palaeontologists know a lot about the history of 108 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:15,320 the Earth. How granted, one hundred and eighty million years sounds like a 109 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:18,279 long time, but it isn't really in the history of the planet. But 110 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:24,320 just think we can touch something, imagine touching something that was around one hundred 111 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:28,759 and eighty million years ago. But then when you think about that, that's 112 00:09:28,759 --> 00:09:33,080 what you do with water every day. Because the water that is that we 113 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,480 are living with is the same water that was created as the planet was being 114 00:09:37,519 --> 00:09:41,000 formed. It's not new water. It's the same water. Yeah, I 115 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,200 haven't scientists deemed it. It's old. The water on Earth is older than 116 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,720 the Sun. Yeah about that? Mapp, Well, I don't know about 117 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,000 that because the Sun came first. Where did that come from? Who told 118 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:54,440 you that? You sure? Well, because it came from other galaxies? 119 00:09:56,639 --> 00:10:00,279 Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, got it? All right. Here's 120 00:10:00,279 --> 00:10:01,600 some good news. I don't know whether you think this good news or not. 121 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:07,399 The Social Security Administration has announced that those of you who are on Social 122 00:10:07,399 --> 00:10:11,639 Security, not just older folks, but there are people who are on what 123 00:10:11,799 --> 00:10:18,200 they call it social security. The young people that are in need. I 124 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:22,759 forget what they call it. It's some kind of social security disability, that's 125 00:10:22,799 --> 00:10:26,639 what it is. Anyway, three point two percent. What does that mean. 126 00:10:26,200 --> 00:10:30,360 It means that most people would get an increase of about fifty bucks a 127 00:10:30,399 --> 00:10:33,720 month starting in January. All right, So that affects you or not. 128 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:37,519 I think the increase this year was quite a bit more than that, but 129 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:43,679 that's because they were trying to collect or bring up the sort of equalize things 130 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:48,919 as inflation has gotten so high in the last couple of years that people got 131 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,519 more money, but a lot of people depend they don't have any other sources 132 00:10:52,519 --> 00:11:01,759 of income, so this is again better than having it being here are also 133 00:11:03,159 --> 00:11:07,360 this is something to think about. A couple of best friends decided to sign 134 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:13,519 up for their school's robotic team, and they didn't realize that it was going 135 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:18,600 to change their lives freshmen in high school. They're now juniors. But these 136 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:24,320 two from your hometown of Cleveland, Jay had started wearing with three D printers 137 00:11:26,039 --> 00:11:31,399 to create parts for their robots. And now because they did that, they 138 00:11:31,399 --> 00:11:35,840 figured out how to do it. This is a whole new world of help 139 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:46,080 for people or amputees. They went to work to find to help a girl 140 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:50,120 who was a friend of theirs who was hurt in an accident come up with 141 00:11:50,159 --> 00:11:54,000 a new arm. And so now they have this new arm, then they're 142 00:11:54,120 --> 00:12:00,000 now able to put what they learned. They figured it out in their teens. 143 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:05,840 Right, definitely cuts the cost of how much this really takes. Right, 144 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,840 They made a prototype of this young girl, a twelve year old girl 145 00:12:11,159 --> 00:12:16,159 who lost her arm in an accident. We got her measurements, they said, 146 00:12:16,879 --> 00:12:20,799 made prototypes, then originals, and they brought the prosthetic to her and 147 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:26,639 it fit her perfectly. Wow. Imagine the future of these two have in 148 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:31,200 terms of what this is worth. Who's gonna have Some big company will buy 149 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:33,720 it out. But they were smart enough to patent it, or they could 150 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:41,559 go to the shark tankersse mister wonderful can invest in putting new arms on people. 151 00:12:41,159 --> 00:12:45,840 That'd be something anyway. It just shows you that if you want to 152 00:12:45,919 --> 00:12:48,960 expand your mental muscle muscles, you can do it. And you're never too 153 00:12:50,039 --> 00:12:54,000 young. You're never young to help with things. No, All right, 154 00:12:54,039 --> 00:13:00,960 here's something that has connected once again the Russians to the Ukrainians. The war 155 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,759 in Ukraine. For those of you who have forgotten has been going on almost 156 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:11,480 two years. It's twenty first month right now. So Russia was suspended by 157 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:18,519 the International Olympic Committee for a land grab. This refers to what they did 158 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:24,600 with the Ukrainians. It's a breach of the Olympic charter to do this sort 159 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:31,879 of thing. They put together. There are regions of the Ukraine where apparently 160 00:13:31,919 --> 00:13:35,679 there are a lot of athletes, international athletes and that sort of thing, 161 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:43,600 and so the Russians because of their aggressiveness, have been tossed as a member. 162 00:13:43,639 --> 00:13:48,159 So when is the Olympics in Paris next year? Right? I think 163 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:52,039 they it's Paris, Yes, yes, I think so. Yeah. So, 164 00:13:52,039 --> 00:13:54,679 anyway, the Russians have been suspended. They did the same thing in 165 00:13:54,759 --> 00:14:03,360 twenty sixteen after the annexation of Crimea, which was part of Ukraine. So 166 00:14:03,720 --> 00:14:09,960 this is just another way of highlighting what's going on, what these people, 167 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:15,200 the aggressiveness of so many people who get into power. Again, I suppose 168 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,240 we could relay that to what's going on in Israel in the Middle least. 169 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:24,840 I saw something last night. Excuse me, Cuomo, who's on News Nation 170 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:28,559 now does quite a good job. I think all of them do. Dan 171 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:37,200 Matthews and Ashley Banfield. So Cuomo's over there and he's talking to some guy 172 00:14:37,639 --> 00:14:45,840 who's a professor at a college on the West Bank. This guy was the 173 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:52,000 hatred. My god, it just fews how these people blame Israel for everything. 174 00:14:52,799 --> 00:14:58,039 Instead, if you want to blame somebody, blame the United Nations. 175 00:14:58,039 --> 00:15:00,840 They were the one who figured this out, these Raelies. There was no 176 00:15:01,399 --> 00:15:03,919 Israel. The Israelis didn't figure out where they were going to go. The 177 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:11,919 United Nations did. And so this guy kept interrupting Chris Cuomo, and he 178 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:16,399 kept saying, you're all wrong. Israel is the aggressor. Israel. You'll 179 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:20,480 all have to pay. This guy is a college professor. What do you 180 00:15:20,559 --> 00:15:24,879 suppose he's teaching the youngsters who come along in whatever college he's teaching in. 181 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:30,320 If you saw it, you look at this guy and you I guess he 182 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,919 was. He's kind of the face of terrorism and the way they think. 183 00:15:35,559 --> 00:15:41,080 There's no not you have to convince, but no even rational conversation you can 184 00:15:41,159 --> 00:15:43,919 have with these people. Well two things can be true at once, though, 185 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:52,080 where the Palestinians were kind of invaded by Israel at one point years ago. 186 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:56,240 But when it comes to what just recently happened with Hamas and then the 187 00:15:56,279 --> 00:16:00,759 baby's being decapitated, And there are two different things where you can it be 188 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:07,399 a Palestinian and feel a certain way and not support Hamas. There has not 189 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:12,360 been a day since Israel was formed. Palai Ha Mos goes back in about 190 00:16:12,399 --> 00:16:18,159 fifty years. This guy was claiming they were duly elected to represent the people 191 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,320 of Palestine. That's not true at all. And some people believe that they 192 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:26,120 are freedom fighters. Yeah, well, but that's that's that just disregards civilians 193 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:30,039 on all sides is rare. How do you fix that? How do you 194 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,759 deal? How do you if it's changed? How do you live with it? 195 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,720 How do you fix it? How do you does it? Is it 196 00:16:37,879 --> 00:16:40,960 just? You know, I've said this every time I go over there. 197 00:16:41,519 --> 00:16:45,120 It's something that will never get fixed because the hatred is so deep seated and 198 00:16:45,159 --> 00:16:48,519 taught at such a young age. It's been such a hostile region for how 199 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:56,360 long? Now? Yeah? Wow. During our we have two things, 200 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:02,960 the talk radio Countdown show and then we have the ancillary hour that goes with 201 00:17:03,039 --> 00:17:06,200 at the talk radio review, And during that we're going to talk to somebody 202 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:10,559 who went over to Israel just on a vacation and happen to get there the 203 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:14,960 day before all that this started. He's back now and we'll have his conversation. 204 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:21,880 All right, here's the latest from the problem in Idaho that was created 205 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:25,839 by a gas line explosion. I would you like to live next door near 206 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:32,680 this? This is Middletown, Idaho. Gas line explodes and the sheriff there 207 00:17:33,279 --> 00:17:37,279 says that he isn't even sure now about injuries and stuff because it's a very 208 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:42,160 rural area in southwestern Idaho. Town has about ten thousand people that live in 209 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:47,880 it. Everybody was evacuated and apparently now it's been lifting, they good go 210 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:56,880 back again. But these explosions happen sometimes they're never caused by nature somehow, 211 00:17:56,000 --> 00:18:03,440 or there's something there was a somebody working with a backo somewhere that's happened, 212 00:18:03,519 --> 00:18:06,640 or they're getting into the line. But the line, they don't just explode. 213 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:12,240 It happens with the cause. It's gonna be as far away from those 214 00:18:12,279 --> 00:18:17,200 sorts of things, right, That's what always terrifies me. And I think 215 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:18,960 that I don't know if it's all of the states. I know it's it's 216 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:25,880 New York and LA where apartment complexes or any anything that's not a single family 217 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:30,559 standing home is not permitted to have gas stoves because if somebody it forgets to 218 00:18:30,559 --> 00:18:34,920 turn it off or starts to light a candle right next to like when it's 219 00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:38,319 been running and they didn't realize it was running, it can take out so 220 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,680 many other units. I didn't I don't know that. I'll that's I can't 221 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,839 remember where that is. I think it's becoming more whitespreader. Maybe it was 222 00:18:45,839 --> 00:18:51,440 one of those proposal things that hasn't actually taken effect. Yeah, it could 223 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:57,480 be. All right. Here's another attack. Bobcat when after two children and 224 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:04,640 a couple of dogs in Georgia. 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Number one this 250 00:20:56,599 --> 00:21:00,839 week on Most People's Minds, television, radio, you name it, social 251 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:06,200 media, the experiences that people have had what we're watching happen in Israel. 252 00:21:06,599 --> 00:21:11,240 I have a very close friend with whom I've done business for decades, who 253 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:15,640 when I talked to him last week, we were talking some business stuff and 254 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,519 he said, I'm going to Israel for a week with my wife and a 255 00:21:18,519 --> 00:21:22,839 couple of my friends. And I was talking to him because he's Jewish and 256 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,200 he'd never been there before, and I was telling him about the experiences I've 257 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:30,759 had loving my trips to Israel, have been there five times and a few 258 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,200 you know, highlights, and so I shared that, and so now let's 259 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,519 pick it up there, Spencer Brown. He is with us. And when 260 00:21:38,559 --> 00:21:42,119 you told me you were going, I think I was excited for you, 261 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:47,599 right, And you were excited because you never have been before. Yeah, 262 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:49,720 Doug, as you corrected, point out, I am Jewish, my wife 263 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,799 and I had talked about going to Israel for a long time, ten plus 264 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,480 years, and we had this other couple that every dinner we had together we'd 265 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:00,559 talk about going, And finally about a year ago, we said, let's 266 00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:04,359 stop talking about it, let's actually go, which is what we did right 267 00:22:04,559 --> 00:22:10,079 just in time. Your timing was great, I mean everything. Yeah, 268 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,440 so you get over there and you had a day at least, didn't you 269 00:22:12,519 --> 00:22:18,000 to do stuff before this all happened. No, not at all. Actually, 270 00:22:18,039 --> 00:22:22,440 we were mid flight when the people we were traveling with had their Wi 271 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,279 Fi on. It was middle of the night for us this morning in Israel, 272 00:22:26,319 --> 00:22:30,559 and she said, oh my god, I'm getting texts that that Hamas 273 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:37,279 has invaded Israel across the Gaza border. So about halfway through our flight started 274 00:22:37,319 --> 00:22:41,599 creeping through the main cabin and people were obviously getting texts and checking news, 275 00:22:41,599 --> 00:22:45,759 and I jumped on and was reading reports from the journal in the Times, 276 00:22:45,759 --> 00:22:51,119 and there was a full invasion in process while we were flying, and in 277 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:56,039 fact when we landed. So when you first thought that you saw it and 278 00:22:56,079 --> 00:23:00,359 you were thinking about it, was there any did like the captain come on 279 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,240 and say, there's a problem in Israel. Maybe we should turn around or 280 00:23:03,279 --> 00:23:08,960 land somewhere else. Did that ever happen now by either design or intent, 281 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,720 or just happened since the pilot's never said anything, it was it was actually 282 00:23:14,799 --> 00:23:19,200 kind of strange. And we were sitting up front close to the flight attendants 283 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,720 and started talking to them, and really word came back that we had some 284 00:23:23,839 --> 00:23:26,400 options either to land. Well I don't know that there were options. They 285 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:32,480 were considering landing in Israel or diverting to Greece or Cyprus. But they never 286 00:23:32,519 --> 00:23:36,240 said anything until they got on just like any other flight about a half hour 287 00:23:36,279 --> 00:23:38,839 ago, and then acknowledged that ladies and gentlemen, as you may have heard, 288 00:23:40,319 --> 00:23:42,519 and there's a situation in Israel, you know, rest assured it's safe 289 00:23:42,599 --> 00:23:47,240 to land, and that was that. I have to say, it wasn't 290 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:52,440 handled or as I'm concerned very well. But that's a completely different and minor 291 00:23:52,519 --> 00:23:55,559 story, you know, in light of what's going on there. All right, 292 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,680 So you got off the plane, what was it like in the airport, 293 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,559 and then when you went to your hotel, what was what was what 294 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:07,640 was kind of going on? And what were you thinking? One? What 295 00:24:07,799 --> 00:24:11,240 was going on? It was just very solemn, I mean, the fog 296 00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:15,880 of war is a very apt metaphor. No one really understood exactly what was 297 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,519 going on other than there was clearly an invasion. At that point, the 298 00:24:18,599 --> 00:24:22,680 death toll was estimated to be and this was all kind of chatter in the 299 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:27,519 airport at two hundred, so people didn't understand the scale and scope of what 300 00:24:27,759 --> 00:24:32,240 had happening, and at that time, what was still happening. It was 301 00:24:32,279 --> 00:24:36,799 just a very solemn quiet time in the airport. I would I would, 302 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,680 I would say, you know, I'm from New York City. It was 303 00:24:40,799 --> 00:24:42,799 like nine to twelve, if not, you know, the evening of nine 304 00:24:42,839 --> 00:24:48,519 to eleven's people trying to gather and comprehend what had happened. And then what 305 00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:52,039 we were thinking was the same thing, you know, is this an event? 306 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:55,079 Is it something even bigger? And I would say each hour it just 307 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:59,400 became more and more apparent, you know that it was something bigger, And 308 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,279 we were trying figure out whether to stay at the airport. A lot of 309 00:25:02,279 --> 00:25:04,599 confusion. Do we stay at the airport? We just go to our hotel 310 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,839 and see what's happening from there, And that's ultimately what we decided to do, 311 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:14,319 is get to the hotel least, you know, that was a ground 312 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:18,480 where we could base ourselves and just figure this all out, or at least 313 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,000 try to determine what's happening. Having a conversation with my good friend Spencer Brown, 314 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,920 as he's indicated, he's from New York, he went to Israel with 315 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,279 his wife and a couple of friends to visit. On the first trip they 316 00:25:30,559 --> 00:25:36,599 encounter all of this. So you're at the hotel, then what you actually 317 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,359 ended up spending back and forth with you was it three or four days? 318 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,000 How long did you actually end up staying sort of having to stay there. 319 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,279 Yeah, having to stay is the correct term. We stayed three days. 320 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,920 We really didn't leave the hotel, but the first night when we got there, 321 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:56,039 Yeah, this surreal situation. The fog of wars is very true, 322 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,920 you know, just a lot of different reports. Trying to figure out what 323 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,000 our options were. We had a guide that was going as supposed to take 324 00:26:03,079 --> 00:26:07,039 us around the country and she was calling us. But the first night we 325 00:26:07,079 --> 00:26:11,759 were you know, the missiles were flying over Tel Aviv and we were sitting 326 00:26:11,759 --> 00:26:14,400 in the lobby on the one hand, you know, having dinner with a 327 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:18,319 lot of people, and it was it was like a normal resort hotel, 328 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,200 and then you know, the sirens would would ring and we would go into 329 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,440 the bomb shelter, which is really the inner part of the building. You 330 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:29,400 know, in Israel, the staircases are fortified and that's where people go if 331 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,480 they don't have exact shelter in the basement. We were probably in and out 332 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:36,599 of that four times, and then you'd go back to the lobby and it 333 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:41,160 was just a surreal situation. What was interesting is probably the wrong word, 334 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:47,880 but this was just rolling, you know, things coming in and rolling realization 335 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:53,359 that this was not only a horrific nightmare situation for Israel, but strategically, 336 00:26:53,920 --> 00:27:02,000 you know, a huge country changing, history changing event. And I think 337 00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:07,119 dawn that started to dawn on people Monday morning, Israel time. Just to 338 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,240 give you a sense, you know, Sunday morning, which would have been 339 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:11,839 our first full day there. Our guy was asking if he wanted to go 340 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,240 touring up north because she thought it was safe, and we said thanks, 341 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,640 but I didn't think it was appropriate and also for safety reasons, just wanted 342 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,720 to stay close. By Monday, her advice was to get out of the 343 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:26,799 country. And I think that that really is, you know, kind of 344 00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:30,559 symbolizes or really sums up what happened there. So what did you see though, 345 00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:37,599 in reality in terms of the Israelis and what they were doing to mobilize. 346 00:27:37,839 --> 00:27:40,880 Certainly there were a lot of reports, but because Israel is such a 347 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,799 small country and Tel Aviv's not that big either, you go, you know, 348 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,480 you're not that far from Jerusalem and the guy's strip is right there, 349 00:27:48,519 --> 00:27:52,359 and what was going on is right there. So did you ever feel like 350 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:56,279 you were literally in danger? And as you looked at what was going on, 351 00:27:56,799 --> 00:28:00,559 the goosebumps, the shows go uping down, your spy kind of what 352 00:28:00,599 --> 00:28:03,880 were you and your wife? What you experienced was something, as you just 353 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:08,240 suggested, it would probably be life changing. Certainly you'll be able to talk 354 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,400 about it for the rest of your life. But what kind of did you 355 00:28:11,599 --> 00:28:18,880 actually experience. Let's say there were two things. Tell Aviv's just to give 356 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,720 your listeners a sense. It's about forty five miles and probably less as the 357 00:28:23,759 --> 00:28:27,960 crow flies from the Gaza strip, So it would be like being in a 358 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:34,559 suburb of New York with war going on down in the city. And so 359 00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:38,880 what we heard and saw, we saw a lot of missiles. You could 360 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,160 see them streaking through the sky. At night. We heard the Iron domee 361 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:47,519 blowing up a lot of missiles, and we saw there were you know, 362 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:51,640 because it shares the same coastlines. Literally, if you walk just walk down 363 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:53,720 the water from you know, for forty five miles from Tel Aviv, you 364 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:59,279 would walk into the Gaza strip. There were a lot of boats and cider 365 00:28:59,319 --> 00:29:04,400 helicopters trolling the shore. That was mostly what we saw. You could hear, 366 00:29:04,799 --> 00:29:07,319 you know, we'd be sitting. It was again, surreal is really 367 00:29:07,359 --> 00:29:11,240 the word I've kept using for our experience, tragic for theirs. But you 368 00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:15,480 could on the one hand, we were sitting because there was nothing to do 369 00:29:15,599 --> 00:29:18,880 at the hotel, you know, on the roof by the pool, and 370 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,799 then on the other hand, you could hear the bombs going off, you 371 00:29:21,839 --> 00:29:26,279 know, in Gaza on Tuesday and Monday. So it was a very strange 372 00:29:26,319 --> 00:29:30,799 situation for us. Never felt, you know, in personal danger. I 373 00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:34,960 did get out Tuesday night, but I did feel the sense of and I 374 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:40,319 think this is what a lot of Israelis feel, of being trapped and things 375 00:29:40,319 --> 00:29:45,079 closing in. You've got enemies to the south, You've got Hesbala shooting rockets 376 00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:51,200 to the north, there's the threat of the Palestinian uprise on the West Bank, 377 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,680 and then there's the Mediterranean Sea. Those are basically Israel's borders. I'm 378 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,960 oversimplifying, So that's really what I felt if I didn't get out. But 379 00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:02,759 things were starting to close in and ratcheting up, and it was a very 380 00:30:03,319 --> 00:30:08,920 unsettling feeling. So how long actually was the airport ever really closed or how 381 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:15,440 long did it take you to arrange to get out? The airport wasn't permanently 382 00:30:15,519 --> 00:30:21,160 closed, but a lot of carriers, and American carriers in particular, stopped 383 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,920 flying in and out. Air France stopped flying, so there were just less 384 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,440 flights going in and out. It took about forty hours well, you know, 385 00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:32,119 to figure to get our plans and ended up flying l all out. 386 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,880 That kept on flying I think as a show of strength. But you know, 387 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,039 and if we hadn't gotten out Tuesday, it really would have it would 388 00:30:38,039 --> 00:30:42,279 have been difficult. And the government now is chartering planes and getting people out 389 00:30:42,319 --> 00:30:47,680 by you know, flying them out I think even by ground and also see 390 00:30:47,799 --> 00:30:51,839 so it's a situation that you know, is deteriorating as far as as things 391 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:56,440 closing in and war ratcheting up. You're talking about our gument. The American 392 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,680 government has hired the carriers to send one planes they can get to get There's 393 00:31:00,759 --> 00:31:04,880 like one hundred thousand Americans who live in Israel, so there's a lot of 394 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:08,640 Americans that live there, and there's always a lot of Americans visiting. Yeah, 395 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,799 yes, yeah, yeah, exactly. Well, I'm glad you're safe 396 00:31:12,839 --> 00:31:18,359 because of our friendship. I'm glad that you. I don't want to say 397 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,240 i'm glad you had the experience, but I think it's an experience that, 398 00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:26,559 as you tell the story here, helps us all to understand on a person 399 00:31:26,599 --> 00:31:30,200 to person basis someone who's not directly involved in the war itself, but the 400 00:31:30,319 --> 00:31:37,039 way it's coagulating, and how many people are involved in how earthshaking it is 401 00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:40,279 not just for you and the experience you had, but for the world. 402 00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:45,039 So I appreciate it, and I'm glad you're okay. Spencer Brown, who 403 00:31:45,119 --> 00:31:48,519 went to Israel for a good time, didn't have it, but he's okay 404 00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:52,359 and he's safe back here in America. Thanks for joining us. 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