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Check it out college football on the
West Coast. This is Get Off My

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pilone, a look at the PAC
twelve and more, part of the College

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Gridiron Coast to Coast podcast network.
Here's your host, that's Zimo. Welcome

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to the latest edition of to Get
Off My Pilon College football podcast. This

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is your host, Matt Zena.
We're part of the College gridirn Coast to

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Coast podcast network, coming at you, and we're not that far away from

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Thanksgiving, not that far away from
the end of the regular season in college

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football, the PAC twelve, the
Mountain West Western college football, that's what

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we focus on. Herrett, Get
Off My Pilon. Plenty to talk about

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in the middle of November, and
let's start with the top of the pack.

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The Washington Huskies still unbeaten. They're
ten to oh and you'd rather be

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ten and o than nine to one. Obviously, Washington because it's unbeaten because

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it passed another test, albeit only
slightly against the utah Utes. Being ten

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and oh being unbeaten in the PAC
twelve means that Washington can lose once and

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still be in the PAC twelve championship
game. That's that's the really big advantage

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that the Huskies have and with Washington
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from four and oh to now four
and six, you know the Apple Cup

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that that's a game that the Washington
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You know, you figure that's gonna
be a win. So the Huskies pretty

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much nailed down their spot in the
PAC twelve change a game it's not official,

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but highly likely to be in Las
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And so you know, you definitely
would rather be Washington than Oregon or anyone

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else in the PAC twelve. But
in the same breath, while we're gonna

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we're we're gonna say that Washington is
certainly in the driver's seat, we also

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have to say in the same breath
that Washington's not looking very convincing. And

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and you want to juggle those two
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know, I said earlier this year
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half of the season, you know, you'd rather be unbeaten than not.

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However, early in the season,
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is a different deal from being ten
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you're five and oh, you still
have a lot of season left. You

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have challenging games on the back end
of your schedule, and there's there's much

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greater cause for concern when you're just
in the middle of the season and you're

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still trying to find your way.
But when you're ten and oh, you

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know, you can look at the
warts and the flaws and everything else on

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your team and you know you can
still acknowledge them, you can still be

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honest about them and yet realize,
hey, ten and Oh is ten and

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Oh, We're so close to achieving
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know, in mid November, being
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in early October when you're unbeaten,
you know, and and it's and coaches

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obviously want to play better, they
want to fix their flaws. But when

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you keep finding ways to win,
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of a full season. Looking outside
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Florida State do that. You know, we're seeing Georgia do that. We're

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seeing not Alabama. Alabama has one
loss, but you know, we're we're

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seeing some teams go through the entirety
of the season and they're avoiding every single

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land mine. Washington Florida State really
on very parallel tracks. They're not dominating,

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but they are winning. And when
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certain point, the focus stops being
on the flaws and it and it starts

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being on finding ways to be successful, at least successful enough each week.

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So the Huskies are on that fine
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That game against Utah felt very perilous. Utah had the lead and the

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ball in the third quarter, and
then later on Washington had a narrow lead,

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but Utah was, you know,
in the red zone, very close

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to taking a fourth quarter lead,
and then Washington got what should have been

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a pick six, and then you
know, another Deshaun Jackson moment. And

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why why football players drop the ball
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the two yard line. It's just
such a brainbuster, Like you don't get

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any extra points, extra credit,
History doesn't remember you fondly if you dropped

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the ball as soon as you get
to the goal line. It's just the

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most baffling thing, absolutely the most
baffling thing. And this this really was

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the worst I've ever seen. It
looked like the ball was dropped on the

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two, maybe even the two and
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Wh was able to get a safety
on the next play. And that's

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kind of a typifies the Husky season
that they've made some really sloppy, ugly

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plays, Like they were not sharp
against USC on defense, allowing forty two

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points. They allowed thirty three points
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offense did not score touchdown, but
their defense dominated. Their defense got to

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pick six and they did run the
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on that one, and they were
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So each week it's a different aspect
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So they are ten to zero and
that's fantastic, and Kalin de Boer looks

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like exactly the right man for the
job on Montlake. And yet and yet

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you look at that team you go
each week is such a highly flawed performance.

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How long is this going to continue? And next up for Washington the

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trip to Reeser Stadium Corps Vallas.
Jonathan Smith has the Beavers in the top

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ten. I don't know if they
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this team lost to Washington State and
Washington State is a four and six

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team also lost to Arizona, which
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a three loss team. So I
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to win eleven games. So john
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program at a high level. It's
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Mike Riley had the Beavers roughly fifteen
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and six through two thousand and nine, that period of time Oregon State was

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competitive in the top tier of the
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but was right in the mix in
mid November. So Jonathan Smith has

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been able to recreate that and it's
and that's very impressive. But you know,

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Oregon State is going to really kick
itself, in particular, not so

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much for the Arizona loss, because
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to the Cougars back in September.
Man the Beavers would really love to have

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that one back. They'd really love
the mulligan if they had won that game.

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This game in Corvallis would be so
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it's a big game, but it
would be even bigger had Oregon State not

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tripped up in the police to Washington
State. So very interesting as we record

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this podcast on Monday evening, Oregon
State was initially a slight underdog but has

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moved on the lines to a one
point favorite. Pretty interesting. And moreover,

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I don't think that's wrong. I
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I think this does set up extremely
well for Oregon State. It's gonna be

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a hugely jacked up crowd at Reeser
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know, these were the two games
circled on the calendar. Washington this week

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in the Civil War against Oregon on
Thanksgiving weekend. These are the two games

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that they are going to define Oregon
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played Utah early in the season when
the Uts offense was just absolutely terrible,

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a non factor. Ucla, you
know, lost Arizona State. We're going

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to talk about that game in a
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at home, that was expected,
nothing more, nothing less. These are

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the two games that are going to
define Oregon State season. So you you

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know, this game is like Oregon
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that this game's the conference championship game
and next week against the Ducks is the

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super Bowl. So I certainly like
the way this game lines up for Oregon

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State against Washington, and with the
way that the Huskies are playing, you

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know, Washington's gonna have to tighten
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tighten up the screws and and weed
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Let's talk a little bit about that
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you know, there were penalties almost
every play in the second half. It

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was. It was a very ragged
game. Washington botched a field goal late

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that gave Utah another chance to tie
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in the first half by Utah.
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for adjusting in the second half,
getting more of a pass rush, getting

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more of a push up front,
finding ways to frustrate Utah. But you

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know, Bryson Barnes, who had
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a very great, really great time
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The Huskies are not that robust in
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not physically imposing what does Oregon State
like to do. Oregon State likes to

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lean on its offensive line. Play
smash moouth football, run the ball,

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run the rock, set up play
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who's been solid this season, I
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about dj u A in these games. You know, how does he play

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against the very best UH in the
Pac twelve Washington Oregon. It's gonna define

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his Oregon State season and it's probably
gonna reshape how we think of him and

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his career as a college quarterback.
Transferring from Clemson and Dabbos swinging. And

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you know, just another word about
Uiangalawa that with his with Clemson's struggles this

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year under Cade club Nick, you
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UH in his free moments, in
his spare time. I'm sure that he's

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thinking, wow, I made the
right choice. I made the right call

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going from Dabbo uh to Jonathan Smith. Now, you know, we'll never

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know what it would have been like
if uiangla had played for Garrett Riley,

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whom Dabbo brought in as his new
offensive coordinator at Clemson. So it's not

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as though ugl would have been playing
for the coordinators that he had a year

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ago. Dabo decided to make a
change. But nevertheless, it's a what

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if. It's a real what if
for Uygilay, what if he had been

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with Garrett Riley? Will never know, but I'm sure that ultimately Uiangilay thinks

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he made the right pall transferring from
Clemson to Oregon State. So many storylines

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involved in that, and one other
storyline attached to Washington Morgan State and really

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you know, flowing through the PAC
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What about the Heisman race? Where
does it stand right now? A

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lot of people will say that Bonix
should be leading. I think that's a

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reasonable analysis, but I would ultimately
disagree. I think, right now,

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present moment, I'm not predicting the
future here, but present moment, where

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things stand right now, it should
be Michael Pennix still ahead of Bonix.

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Pennix made clutch to deliver Washington a
win over utahm was a high scoring game.

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I mean, he played it was
brilliant, but he was good against

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a tough, hard nosed Utah defense. That is certainly more than what bo

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Nicks did against USC, and it's
Swiss cheese defense. Now, Knicks was

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good, he was certainly good.
He wasn't fantastic if he throws were off

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the mark. Oregon scored only thirty
six points, left a lot of points

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on the field. USC's secondary was
absolutely atrocious, very soft coverage, particularly

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on third downs. I mean,
Knicks made easy throws and a number of

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Oregon's touchdowns were yards after the catch. More about Oregon's receivers and us He's

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not very good secondary than anything bo
Nicks did. Like bo Nicks did not

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make amazing plays in that USC game. He made the place he was supposed

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to make, and that's good.
Again, he didn't play poorly. He

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was good, but he wasn't spectacular. He didn't do anything so impressive that

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oh I would move him up over
Michael Pennix in the Heisman race. Look,

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Pennix made big plays, more big
plays head to head against boon Nicks,

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and he beat him. So Penix
should have the lead. Now for

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a new Oregon fans listening in not
saying this race is over. I'm not

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saying Penix has a commanding lead because
he doesn't. It's all very close.

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It's all very fluid. But if
bo Nicks gets a rematch with Pennix in

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Washington in the PAC twelve Championship game
on Friday, December first, that's bo

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Nicks's chance to alter the conversation.
That is Boenix's chance to take that award

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away from Michael Pennock. So Bonix
is going to have his say. Bo

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Knicks will be able to make his
case. But you don't put bo Nicks

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number one right now, like that
is the trade off that Penix leads right

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now, but Nicks has the chance
to change everything. That's the way to

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look at the heis and race one
of the Heisman notes. Just because Penix

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and Knicks, two PAC twelve players
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people are saying Jayden Daniels should be
the highst winner. Stop stop please.

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He got out played by Jalen Milroe
head to head against Alabama, all right.

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He was outplayed by Jordan Travis in
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Florida State. Now, yes,
let's use defense as horrible, all right,

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and you shouldn't you shouldn't penalize a
player too much. However, Daniels

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was not spectacular in games where he
needed to be spectacular. You know,

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do you do you do that?
Do you do do you reward a player

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in spite of not being his absolute
very best in the biggest games on his

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schedule? Okay, he lit up
Florida's defense. Whoop de doo? All

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right, like we should not be
throwing a ticker tape parade for lighting up

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a bad Florida defense. Florida got
smoked by kJ Jefferson in Arkansas one week

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earlier. I'm sorry, stop it, Jade, and Daniel is not the

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Heisman front runner because he lit up
Florida like a Christmas tree. Stop at

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Billy Napier. Is his coaching Florida
poorly? He doesn't have a good team.

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Come on now, let us tap
the brakes now. I think,

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you know, if you were to
make the Heisman case for Jayden Daniels,

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I think a real comparison could be
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and Baylor in twenty eleven. But
the difference there is that in twenty eleven,

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Baylor was It was when the twenty
eleven season began, Baylor was a

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nobody in college football. You know, he did not have any kind of

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a stablished brand, and Art Brows, I mean cat put off of his

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personal failing failings and scandals to the
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X and no coach, and he
was developing Baylor at the time. Baylor

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was beginning its upswing and rounding into
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in those years, but entering twenty
eleven, Baylor really hadn't put itself on

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the map just yet. So when
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in twenty eleven, that was a
huge accomplishment, all right, was that

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was an amazing feat. So even
though Baylor wasn't a conference champion or anything,

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much as Jaden Daniels and LSU are
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it was still amazing for Baylor to
have that kind of a season at

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the time. Now, in twenty
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that Baylor would win eleven games per
season, but not in twenty eleven.

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What RG three did, it was
totally out of the blue in terms of

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Baylor's history Baylor's expectations. That was
an amazing team accomplishment that RG three was

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centrally responsible for, all right,
But Jayden Daniels is presiding over an LSU

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team that's gonna that's lost three games
and was expected to be a college football

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playoff contender. So LSU's nine to
three this year and Baylor's nine and three

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in twenty eleven two totally different things, all right, So let's keep that

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in perspective. No, you shouldn't
automatically give the Heisman Trophy to a conference

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champion or a college football playoff team. It's like, I'm not arguing that,

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but when if you have several candidates
for the Heisman and a bunch of

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them have at least one conference championships
or are in conference championship games, and

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another team not only is not playing
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overall within the context of its season, like Kayleb Williams and USC would be

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in a similar boat. All right. When you have underachieving teams at blue

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blood programs, you don't give the
Heisman to those kinds of players. You

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don't give the Heisman. Two,
that quarterback of a blue blood team that

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has significantly under a cheat now RG
three at Baylor. Different dynamic. So

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let's keep that in perspective when we're
talking about the Heisman Trophy race much more

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to discuss in the Pac twelve.
Also the Mountain West, So Arizona.

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You know, after two very taxing, physical, tough close football games against

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especially Oregon State, and then also
UCLA goes on the road, plays at

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altitude against a desperate Colorado team which
frankly really needed to win this game to

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have any remaining hope of a bowlgame. Now, Colorado can still win out

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and it might beat Washington State,
but good luck to those Buffs against Utah

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that's going to be a really tough
game. So Colorado really needed to beat

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Arizona. I think, I think
a lot of other experts shared my point

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of view. Needed to beat Arizona
to have a good chance of getting to

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a bowl game. And it was
close. Colorado started well, Buffalo scored

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thirty one points. Their offense did
look better than it has in some time.

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But Arizona got the late game stops
and Noah Feafida once again just such

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an amazing leader for this team.
And let's just all sit back and contemplate

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a world in which Jedfish has Noah
Fafida as his day one, opening week

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starting quarterback instead of Jaden Delora.
Remember, USC and Clay Hilton started Max

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Brown over Sam Donald at the beginning
of the twenty sixteen season. Donald didn't

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come in until late September, and
by that point USC had already lost three

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games, But Donald ran the table
the rest of the way, and USC

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was able to go to and then
win the Rose Bowl. Was playing some

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of the best football in the United
States at the end of that twenty sixteen

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season. Imagine if Arizona had Noah
Faefeeda starting from day one. It's going

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to be one of the great what
ifs. But at least next year,

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Arizona knows that it will have Noah
Fafita there on day one when it goes

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into the Big twelve, Arizona football
has a chance to go nine to three

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and then win a tenth game in
the regular season. That would be absolutely

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spectacic. Or for Jedfish and that
Arizona program. They beat Colorado and they

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are on track to do something extraordinary
relative to preseason expectations. I think in

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the preseason, you know, if
you told Arizona six and six bowl game,

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they would have been happy. Seven
to five. Wow, that would

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be amazing. Arizona could be nine
to three with a chance to go ten

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to three in a bowl game under
Noah Flafida and head coach Jedfish. Absolutely

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spectacular what that team is doing.
And let's keep in mind that Arizona is

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not yet fully eliminated from the Pac
twelve championship race. If a few things

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break in Arizona's direction, one of
those things is going to be Oregon State,

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whom you know, Arizona has the
tiebreaker over the Beavers because it beat

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them head to head. For Oregon
State takes down Oregon, you know,

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and and Arizona is able to win
out, Arizona could be in the Pack

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twelve Ima game. Still, that's
pretty remarkable. Another big story in the

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PAC twelve from the past weekend,
UCLA with the absolute stink bomb, the

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absolute clunker at home against Arizona State. The Bruins scored just seven points.

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They got stopped on three different fourth
downs, two of them inside the Arizona

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State ten yard line. An absolute
disaster for Chip Kelly. And then you

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know the final score seventeen to seven
for Arizona State. The Sun Devil's hugely

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undermanned, and yet coach Kenny Dillingham
was running a swinging gate and the stack

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formations that basically took his offensive line
out of play. And it's really genius.

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It's a genius move by Kenny Dillingham. You don't have an offensive line

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because you have seven eight however many
offensive linemen injured, so you just don't

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have traditional traditional plays with a net, with a traditional formation, you basically

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turn it into seven on seven football. Genius move. Kenny Dillingham is coaching

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his butt off for Arizona State this
year. Got to give him a lot

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of credit. And yet let's then
step back. However, for as resourceful

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as Kenny Dillingham was with his offense
getting seventeen points against a good UCLA defense,

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you give up seventeen points, you
should expect to win. You should

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be able to score at least twenty. Arizona State gave up fifty five points

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to Utah a week ago, UCLA
scores seven. And I know that the

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Bruins have injuries at quarterback, but
you know, this was a team that

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was supposed to have depth at quarterback
because Dante Moore was the freshman and he

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hasn't really hanned out. You know
that great, But you also had Ethan

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Garber's you also had Collin Schlee and
he's the guy who got the start against

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Arizona State and he's transferred in from
Kent State. So like Trip Kelly had

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some options. Now maybe they weren't
Cadillac options, you know the end.

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But of course it does fall on
Chip Kelly that he of his player evaluations

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didn't pan out the way he hoped, so he has to bear some responsibility

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for that. But even then,
like Colin Schlee was not supposed to be

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third string quality as a quarterback,
like he was supposed to provide value to

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this UCLA offense to the extent that
you can at least get twenty points against

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Arizona State in November, but he
didn't. And and also if you if

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you watch that game, I know
it was on Pac twelve networks, so

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most of you probably didn't, but
UCLA was just handing the ball off in

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the middle of the line on fourth
down. In short, no creativity,

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no flexibility, no diversity from Chip
Kelly. You know who you know.

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When Dorian Thompson, Robinson and Zach
Charbonay were back there last year, you

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saw us offense do great and dynamic
things and Kelly got a lot out of

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his talent. UCLA had a really
good offense that was not an easy offense

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to play against. Kelly is making
his twenty twenty three UCLA offense very easy

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to play against. It felled at
times as though Chip Kelly was just mailing

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it in or he was just trying
to emphasize, hey, we're the more

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physical team, so we're just going
to run it up the gut. But

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like tactics strategy, they pretty much
went out the window. I would also

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add that, you know, UCLA
got stuff on a fourth and goal at

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the one of entirely appropriate and entirely
appropriate for ucle to go for it in

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that situation. But let's remember this
game against Arizona State. It was three

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nothing well into the third quarter.
Kelly needed to know he needed to realize,

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Okay, this is a defense first
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fourth and one at the nine at
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Later in the first half, he
needed to kick a field goal. He

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needed to collect some points, and
realized that, hey, this is a

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defense dominated game. It might be
like ten, three, ten, six,

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thirteen to ten. I need to
collect points. So not gonna knock

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him for going forward and fourth and
goal from the one. You should pretty

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much always do that. But fourth
and one at the ten, still down

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three to nothing a little bit before
halftime, chip Kelly needed to kick that

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field goal, and he needed to
collect points. He needed to do things

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to, you know, make sure
that his team was not trailing. A

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three to three tie feels a lot
different from three to nothing when your offense

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is struggling the way UCLA's was.
Chip Kelly did not read that game the

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way he should have. He did
not go along with the game flow to

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the extent that he needed to,
and so fire Chip Kelly is now a

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drum beat among a large portion of
the UCLA fan base. It's certainly a

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legitimate question, what do I think
I think that you know, after five

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years of DTR, five years of
Dorian Thompson Robinson under center, this year

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was going to be a transition,
all right. So as much as chip

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Kelly has failed and as much as
chip Kelly has wasted UCLA's defense this season,

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the fact that he made a good
hire at defensive coordinator and he got

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his defense to improve, that should
that should not be ignored here. But

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now chip Kelly needs to go into
the transfer portal because Dante Moore doesn't look

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like a quick fix. That looks
like a project. You know, should

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should Ucla be going all in with
Dante Moore in his sophomore season in twenty

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twenty four in Big ten? I
don't think so Ucla and Chip Kelly,

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you need to go into the transfer
portal get a big time quarterback, and

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if they do, UCLA might have
something for next season. So I do

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think that based on you know,
the five years of dtr and this year

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being an unavoidable transition. I you
know, a lot of people were high

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on UCLA going to the season.
I was thinking, you know what,

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after having the same quarterback for five
years, it's bound to be tough sledding

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season if you don't have a proven, established quarterback. And really that's the

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mistake chip Kelly made, not getting
a rockstar transfer in the portal for this

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twenty twenty three season. But given
that he didn't, this was always going

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to be tough for UCLA. So
I think, and you know, hey,

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I work at Trojan's Wire. I
blog there, and people will say,

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oh, well, of course you
want chip Kelly to come back.

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You're a usc blogger. Let's really
cast that to the side and let's just

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be as objective as possible about this. I really do think that Chip Kelly,

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who has figured out the defensive half
of the ball at UCLA, you

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give him one more year, but
obviously he is he has to be on

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the hot seat for twenty twenty four. He has to deliver better results overall

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and on offense. But if he
does, like if you give chip Kelly

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the formula and he figures out offense, which you know he used to be

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able to do and which she actually
did pretty well a year ago, like,

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I don't think UCLA is that far
off from being good. But chip

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Kelly does have to go out and
get that elite quarterback for twenty twenty four.

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But if he gets it, UCLA
has the ingredients to do something really

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good. And when you look at
the Big ten, you look at all

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these unwatchable games with these terrible offenses. If UCLA gets a quarterback, Bruins

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are going to be better than the
Iowa's and the Purdues and the Illinois and

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the Indianas and so many of these
middling Big Ten teams. Their line play

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is decent. I don't think you
fire Chip Kelly, but I think if

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you're Martin jarmon the UCLA A D
you do have a conversation with Chip and

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say, hey, you need to
go get yourself a quarterback, all right,

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and you need to deliver better results
at twenty twenty four or in the

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Big Ten. We're gonna give you
one chance in the Big ten to prove

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yourself and then we'll see. I
think that's really the best way for UCLA

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to handle Chip Kelly. I haven't
mentioned USC Oregon game yet, and it's

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because I don't think there was much
to talk about. Oregon was the far

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better team, didn't really show it
on the scoreboard, you know, nine

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point game. You might think if
you didn't watch it, oh that was

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competitive. Well, Oregon was up
by twenty two points and then let USC

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back in the game a little bit. But USC was not within one score

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pretty much throughout the whole second half, and yet Oregon left a ton of

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points on the field, watched a
missed field goal, some fumbles that it

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managed to recover but which forwarded drives. A holding penalty prevented Oregon from getting

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a first and goal with the three, which it almost certainly would have converted

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into a touchdown. Oregon was ragged. Oregon committed over one hundred and fifteen

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yards in penalties. The Ducks,
you know, and their fans, like

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USC was a was wounded and not
playing well heading into this game. I

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know a lot of Oregon fans.
I mean, I did some USC YouTube

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shows last week, as I always
do. Oregon fans were in the chat

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room on these shows, and they
were just out for blood. And I

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didn't blame him like they were thinking, Hey, twenty five thirty thirty five

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point beat down, We're just gonna
absolutely dump it on USC. Oregon didn't

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do that. And Oregon had the
much better team in a much better,

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more favorable position, and yet didn't
really play that great. But there was

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still, of course, an obvious
significant difference between the two teams. Kayleb

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Williams scrambling for his life all night
USC's offensive line just not able to be

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a fortress. USC's offensive line a
very significant reason the Trojans haven't been as

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good this year as projected. The
train for portal acquisitions for Lincoln Riley have

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not hit the mark at all.
US He's receivers, you know, Taj

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Washington has been great. He's been
a great USC receiver this season. Not

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not anybody else really. That receiver
corps has not stepped up. Jorian Singer

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continues to be a bust. And
you know, Arizona has really good receivers.

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Jorian Singer turned out to be not
nearly as good as we thought.

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I thought he was gonna be a
lot better, but he just hasn't brought

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anything extra. USC really misses Jordan
Addison from last season. He was such

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a difference maker. I think we
can all see that and appreciate that a

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lot more now. So USC just
a shadow of its former self. And

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its defensive line was okay, like
Oregon didn't really you know, totally overpower

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USC. But the secondary, the
USC secondary abysmal. I mentioned this earlier

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with bo Nicks. He was just
making easy throws. He did not have

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to make hard throws in this game. US. He's covered very soft,

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particularly on third down. So this
was one of the most lopsided nine point

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games I've seen. And so USC
gets to end it season mercifully and move

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on to its defensive coordinator search.
With jimbo Fisher getting fired at Texas A

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and M, with Zach Arnett being
fired as head coach at Mississippi State,

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and with other developments in the coaching
carousel, it's going to be interesting to

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see, you know what, defensive
coordinator candidates for USC are going to look

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at those different jobs, whether it's
head coach at A and M, defensive

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coordinator at A and M, defensive
coordinator, head coach at Boise State,

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defensive coordinator, head coach at Mississippi
State. With those and other openings emerging,

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how's that going to affect the candidate
pool for USC. One particular point

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that's worth noting, what if Mike
Elko, who used to be at an

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M as defensive coordinator under jimbo Fisher, What if Mike Elko takes the Texas

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A and M job. Now Mike
Elko has a young defensive coordinator, Tyler

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Santucci, very highly thought of,
been doing a great job. He obviously

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gets his duke players to be very
physical, very tough. Well, you

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give Tyler Santucci USC talent, USC
resources, he could be really good as

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a defensive coordinator. But with the
A and M job opening up, if

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Elko goes to A and M,
is Tyler Santucci a company, Elco to

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an M to join his staff,
that or is USC able to pick him

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off and bring him to Los Angeles. Just one of the dozens and dozens

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of potential plot points that USC,
like any other school, needs to consider

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in terms of the carousel, the
job market, being able to anticipate moves,

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being able to get in front of
situations before other schools make their own

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move. And let's make one other
note about the coaching carousel while we're at

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it. You're seeing all these coaches
get fired right now. This is the

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new world. The schools are not
waiting until the end of the regular season.

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They know they have to act sooner
rather than later. Transfer portal window

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opens December fourth, So these schools
need to get the word out like they

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need to broadcast the fact, Hey, we're making changes, we're serious about

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getting better, and time is of
the essence. They can't wait, they

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want recruits and portal prospects to know
now, not later, now that they're

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going to be making changes, they're
going to be increasing the quality of their

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coaching. Like that's why USC fired
out Sprinch earlier rather than later. It's

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why a M's moving earlier rather than
later. And of course you bundle nil

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with all of these things. This
is the new normal in the industry.

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Firings before the end of the regular
season. Why wait, make the move

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now. Make sure that portal prospects
know what is coming around the bend,

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all right, So we also have
to spend a little bit of time on

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the Mountain West Man, what happened
to Fresno State? And this was a

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weird betting line, Like this game
was roughly a toss up a pick them.

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I think San Jose State went off
as a one maybe two point favorite

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over Fresno State, despite Presno State, you know, having just beaten UNLV

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and Boise State to rise to second
place in the Mountain West behind Air Force

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and San Jose State just dog walks
the Bulldogs. That was a decisive win

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for San Jose State and then one
slot above Fresno State. Air Force.

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What's happened to air Force. The
bottom has fallen out after being unbeaten.

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Air Force gets thumped decisively, beaten
like it wasn't even close by Army and

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now Hawaii, Wow, absolutely out
of nowhere. And like I know,

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air Force has had quarterback injuries,
but air Forces line play, air Forces

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physicality was first Raid through those first
eight games. What's happened the last two

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times? Like these games again they
were not especially close. Air Force just

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total implosions each of the last two
weeks. And of course Army was not

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a conference game, but this game
against Hawaii on the island, that was

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a conference game. So the Mountain
West with some late unexpected plot twist,

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It's going to be interesting to see
if Fresno State and Air Force can recover

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to the point that they can maintain
their collision course in the Conference chamionship game.

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You have UNLV right there beating Wyoming
and still in the hunt. You

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know, if Fresno State loses another
game, the Rebels can vault past the

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Bulldogs. Surprisingly, but it would
happen. Other notes in the Mountain West,

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it's really a busy week in terms
of the Mountain West scene. In

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football, Brady Hope retiring at San
Diego State, so that job is coming

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up, is coming open, and
then Boise State again not waiting until the

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end of the regular season. The
Broncos fire fire Andy Avolos, and we

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have to ask, does this mean
that Brian Harrison gets to go back to

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Boise State. I think a lot
of Boise State fans will be okay with

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that, not saying it's universal or
unanimous among those fans, but you know,

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Boise State could certainly do worse.
And Brian Harson, after his miserable

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years at Auburn, if he goes
back to Boise he you know, that

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probably would be appealing to him.
It would probably be a situation where he'd

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like to go back, but would
Boise State want to go back? And

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Boise State needs to consider what other
candidates are out there on the open market.

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So a lot going on in the
Mountain West. Well is the PAC

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twelve final word? Washington Oregon State
prediction. I don't have a lot of

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predictions, but it's late in the
season, the games are bigger, the

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national spotlight is more centrally on Washington. Do the Huskies remain unbeaten? No,

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I'm picking Oregon State to win that
game. So We will see if

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the Huskies are able to refute me. But it's going to be very interesting

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to see what happens in Corvallis for
that very big game. All right,

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that's the latest edition of Get Off
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