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I on the Ball. They welcome
back to win the Ball here on

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Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve, He's Jay, and Jay has some

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breaking news. At least it is
I on the Ball breaking news on Fox

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Sports fourteen fifty. Yeah, a
lot of good stuff, mostly tidbits,

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right, nothing like first shattering or
anything like that, but just a lot

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of fun interesting news. First of
all, we we mentioned the uh,

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the Celtics and the and the Heat
go at it tonight. The Heat are

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trying to sweep the Celtics. The
Heat a number eight seed in the East,

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trying to sweep the number two seeds
Celtics, and they're in Miami.

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So good chance that that could happen, right, what do you think?

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It looks very inevitable that will happen. I never would have guessed it was

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gunning fourth because because Boston was pretty
good. But you can't, you can't

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figure out, you can't. How
can I say this? Not not to

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overlook the Miami because it's done some
unbelievable things unbelievable. I even think they

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could be Denver. They could.
No, they certainly can. The question

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is I hope, well, I
know you they don't, don't I think

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they can? I mean, yeah, they're scary, They're scary. Good

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Yeah, Um, okay, we
you. We mentioned Arizona b das here

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today twelve to three in the in
the PAC twelve Tournament up in Phoenix.

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But uh five Arizona guys name did
the All Pac twelve All Conference team today.

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Mac Bingham and outfielder um Chase Davis
outfielder had had a great year.

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He's become one of the best players
ever in Arizona. Um uh infielder Kiko

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Romo. Who else they hadn't right
here? Um um um oh uh nickc.

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Glawdie was named the Defensive Player of
the Year, which is very cool

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thing because now softball and baseball both
had the defensive Player of the Year.

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And then a Tony Bullard was named
to the UH was a honorable mentioned All

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Pac twelve guys. So um five
but five people named the U to the

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UM All Pac twelve team, and
so they're they're there. They hopefully keep

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going up in the Phoenix. They
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You watch those games on the Pack
twelve network. If Arizona wins that

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they're in the bracket, in the
four team bracket to have a shot at

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the Pack twelve the championship, which
if they win, it would get them

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automatically into the NC double a tournament. All right, um failed to mentioned

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yesterday the Tucson Sugar Skulls won on
Saturday in a good game against a tough

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team and a very nice win against
a big crowd, which you know if

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you went, they had over four
thousand at the game. That you know,

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when you when you put on a
good performance in front of four thousand

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people, you hope to get a
bunch of those. Did they wind?

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They win? They won by two
touchdowns. Yea. They fell behind early,

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they were down fourteen to seven,
but they went on a twenty one

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nothing run and just hold hold the
lead the rest of the way. Quarterback

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to Ramone Atkins had his best game
in the year. No, the Sugar

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Sculls had zero turnovers. I think
he was like, uh, I want

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to say twelve of seventeen throwing.
He had a bunch of rushing yards.

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They did it without Mike Jones,
who who sat out the game. He

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just just banged up, so they
sat him out and their backup running back

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Benjamin Jones came in and did a
nice job. Carrington Thompson, who's been

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on our show a couple of times, had three touchdown catches, three clutch

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touchdown catches, two of them on
fourth down plays. So they just had

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a nice all around game. The
defense played well, special teams played well.

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They blocked a field goal and they
recovered it all the way to the

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other side of the field and led
to a score, and they had a

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kick return for a touchdown. So
I mean, all around, all around

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the blo. It was a nice
day for the Sugar Skulls as a whole,

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for their franchise to be in front
of that many fans and have a

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nice yeah. So another home game
this week. They got Bay Area the

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Bay Area Panthers, who they beat
on the road. The Bay Area is

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now in first place in the West
Division. The Sugar Skulls are half a

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game behind him, so this is
a game for first place in the West

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Division. Big game, six o'clock
Saturday at the Arena. Michael Block We

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talked about him a little bit that
the golfer of the PGA Club golfer who

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made it into the top fifteen of
the PGA Tournament Championship last week, has

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been offered fifty thousand dollars for the
seven iron that he used to hit that

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hole in one that's gone viral.
His quote was for fifty for fifty K,

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I'll hand deliver it. All I
know is that thing is going to

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be too far out of my eyesight
anymore. I don't think I made fifty

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k a year until ten years ago. So, Um, he's playing in

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the Charles Schwab Challenge. He got
a sponsors exemption, so he'll be playing

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in that. He's also been invited
to play in the UH in the Canadian

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Open, I think, um whereas
it here? Um, Yeah, he's

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been invited to play in the Canadian
Open and then the European Masters in Switzerland.

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So he's getting some run in a
chance of playing some big tournaments and

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uh, you know, he's he's
excited about thing. Even Michael Jordan texted

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him. I don't know how Michael
Jordan got his phone number, but texted

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him after the tournament. He said
he had he still has about sixteen hundred

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unread text messages and one of those
is Michael Jordan's. He didn't, he

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didn't. He hasn't seen the text
from Jordan. He's just been told that

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Jordan texted him, which is kind
of funny. So he's just kind of

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been a kind of a charming story. UM. Let's see UH. Delaney

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Schnell one UH won two national titles
at the national UH Championships, so she

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is going to be in the UH. She qualified for the World Championship team

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and the women's ten meter board and
the women's ten meter synchronized diving event.

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Who sized diving event was the one
she wanted. She continues to roll,

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so she she's in. She's on
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So again, Tucson High product.
Great to see somebody locally getting that kind

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of run. UM. On a
more serious note, um UH New Mexico

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State former New Mexico State basketball player
in Mike Peak was involved in the shooting

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where he got lord to a to
uh an incident at ut in Albuquerque and

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ended fatally shooting somebody when he got
attacked with a baseball batty. He got

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shot. UM that he will not
be charged with anything. They decided it

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was it was, you know,
very obviously self defense, so he will

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not be charged with anything. Likely. Um, I saw he got into

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the portal business. He's been in
the transfer portal since December. He had

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his career team, so it's probably
he's probably done. On another serious note,

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John Morant's shoe, uh Nike shoe
has been pulled from from the Nike

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website, so they're no longer selling
his shoe as of now until he figures

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out what they all he's gonna do
with his with his life and those things.

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But uh, um, you know, he was it was kind of

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a you know, his signature shoe
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around. He was making a whole
bunch of money off of it, and

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now he's not. Um, I'm
trying to think it. I think it

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showed it somewhere in this story about
how much money he was making, but

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you know, millions and millions of
dollars and now he's not because of because

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he was just stupid. So anyways, that's that's the way that goes.

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Um. Okay, here's a question
for you. How much would you pay?

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But the most you would pay for
a car. That's a good question.

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I'm a cheap dude. Okay,
if you had, you know,

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I'm not gonna say, you know, like you're a multi billionaire, but

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let's say you had. Oh,
let's say money was no object to you.

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I don't know, really, what
would you pay for a car?

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Seventy thousands? It? Yeah?
I'm not a yeah, yeah, I

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used to be a car guy.
No, now I'm paid. What's gonna

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give you from this place to this
place? The best way? Uneasy?

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So what were you going with this? I'm going with this And Michael Jordan,

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Oh okay, here's here's your story. Paid three point five million dollars

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four for a Hennessey Venom F five
roadster that can hit a top speed of

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one seventy three hundred and eleven.
Okay, So what's the purpose? I

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mean, what's the purpose? I
have so many analogies that I can't He

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was on the radio, you can't
do it. So what's the point.

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Why would you tell you put some
wings on it you can fly? I

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don't know. A guy named John
Hennessy from Hennessey Performance posted a picture of

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of Jordan with the car on on
on Instagram. The car goes the guard.

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Well, I said, so they've
built twenty four coups and then thirty

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of the roadsters, which is what
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But you get it's three point five
million. Why would you do that?

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I mean, I know you can
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twenty bucks to you with me.
Well, last year alone, Jordan made

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Okay, how much do you think
he made on his on his Nike deal

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from last year alone? Probably hundred
hundred million, not even close, not

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even close. So I don't know, five two hundred and fifty six million

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dollars a year from last year.
Jordan, after all these years are being

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retired and all that stuff, still
getting two hundred fifty six million dollars a

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year. The Jordan brand generated five
point one billion dollars in revenue for Nike.

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We saw the movie Man, Yeah, he said give me a piece

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of that, and he got a
piece of it, and then two hundred

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and sixty two hundred fifty six million
dollars last year. Oh man, tell

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you're depressing. Depressing. I could. I was gonna come buy a car

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for seventy thousand I paid, I
paid ten for the car of driving exactly

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right, exactly. It was a
two thousand and seven. It already had

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like eighty thousand miles on it and
I've got it up to one seventy.

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Now all right here you my car, my car, the same car,

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just we have different we have radio
dudes, local limb all right. Pat

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forty reporting that sixteen members of Congress
have sent a letter to the Horse Racing

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Integrity and Safety Authority urging for a
full investigation of death at the Conchurch Churchill,

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Yeah, a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, you saw that probably,

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I don't know if you saw this, but Bafferts taking his horse to

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the Belmont. But it's he's not
sure it's gonna run. If it runs,

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it's not gonna win. I know
that. Um, just the cours

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is too long, too long for
him. Yeah, I didn't think he'd

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hold on. I'm glad he did, but he was losing. He got

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behind him then, so we'll see
what happens with that. That's interesting.

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That's there's a lot of horses have
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well and Bradford had one that day
and at at the Preakness. Yeah,

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he will he was running. He
was running and got you know, got

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hurt. Yeah, all right,
um okay. Field of sixty eight has

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put out its top five coaching hires
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Seat for this coming year. This
coming year Top hires, Top hires,

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number one hires one through five.
Who do you think would be number one?

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Top hires? One through five?
Who was needing a court? Who

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was needing a coach? Who?
Man? Who? Hi? Big East,

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Big Georgetown? The first two are
in the Big Georgetown waited Cooley,

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He's number two? Yeah, okay, Georgetown? Tell me, oh,

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Petito, Petito number one, number
one, and then Michael Shrewsbury got hired

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in Notre Dame. Wouldn't have picked
that one. Mike Rhodes at Penn State,

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okay, and Corey Gipson at I
would not have figured that one out.

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Where's that? I can't tell by
the logo where he's at, where

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he's from? All right? Who
are the five on the hot seat?

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Number one? Oh, hot seat, hot seat? You think Bobby Hurley's

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on that list? No, he's
not, he's not. He probably Washington

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State, Washington, Washington. Mike
Hopkins, he's number four. Kenny Payne.

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And oh, how he even still
has a job, right, how

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he has a seat? Jesus,
he's got a he better have a fireproof

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suit to be able to sit on
the seat. So could you you can't

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sit, you gotta stand? Yeah, you got Clemson Brad Brownwell okay,

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oh oh, I looked right over
this another packed twelve coach. Uh not

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USC, UCLA USC No, okay, okay, don't tell me you took

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Utah, No, Stanford. No, they just hired a coach. Then

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they's got a good Mark Matts,
Mark Matson. Yeah, you're right,

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you're right, but they just hir
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Who Wayne Tinkle? Oregon State?
Oh? Really? Yeah? Really,

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we just took him to the sweet
sixteen or whatever that's gonna be three years

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ago now still at the end of
this season, anybody told him that Oregon

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State? Come on, if you
win a Washington State in Oregon State,

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if you can win there at any
level, you're you should deserve to stay

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there. Well that kind of makes
sense. But and then number five is

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Fred Hoiberg in Nebraska. Those are
the those are the five. These Oh,

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these are from Jeff Goodman. He's
the one who Matson went to cal

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Matson went to call you right,
No, Stanford did not fire. No.

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I don't know why he's not on
that list, because then it'd be

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an all packed we list. You
gotta break it up a little bit.

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Yeah, these are Jeff Goodman's uh
um um, yeah, everybody's and then

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of course all the replies or everybody
who's pissed off at their coach. Right,

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somebody wants the Indiana coach uh be
on there. Uh, Chris Beard,

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who just got hired, should be
on there. It's crazy, it's

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fun, it's fun. Um.
Anyway, there you go. There's probably

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some people who think Tommy d all
right probably well a couple of months ago.

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Yeah, yeah, some Arizona fans. Okay, Well, in honor

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of that, we're gonna play.
Don't fear the reapers. We go out

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out to break and we'll be back. We're gonna have um um Troy Troy,

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I just said, guy who's who's
up at the PacTel Baseball Tournament talked

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to us a little bit about the
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What did you see today of offense? Arizona up here in Scottsdale taking on

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a SHU today as the eight five
game at ten am and the walkouts started

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off hot with four runs out of
the gate, and then it was the

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Aiden may show from then on out. I mean, Arizona struggled all year

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pitching wise, and Aid Mayors went
out there and had maybe his best performance

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of the season. When you when
you, I mean all season long,

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they've had the offense right, just
by the fact that you look at the

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PAC twelve, a PAC twelve team
and they're you know, all the people

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that they have on it, but
obviously no pictures on there. I mean,

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sort of a similar story to softball, But all of a sudden,

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everyone seems to be pitching pretty well
the last few games, right. Yeah,

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you know, Aiden's kind of come
on as of late. He had

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the russ start against Stamford and ASU
previously, but outside of that he's been

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kind of finding his groove. I
know, the era is a little bit

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high, but he showed why today. There's high hopes for Arizona moving forward,

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not only this season, but next
season as well. And then you

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know they have the transfer from Nevada
that had to start late in the season,

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and he's kind of been a settling, calming force for Arizona on the

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mound. How has a chip held
up throughout this whole season. You know,

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I think he's kind of stayed positive
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I still think he believes that they
can make the playoffs, especially if they

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win tomorrow against Oregon State, but
he's been pretty blunt saying, you know,

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we need to get more out of
our pitching, and we just haven't

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pitched well enough down the stretch of
the season and for our parts of the

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season. But I think he's been
staying positive, and it seems like the

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team is as well, because today
they came out with a lot of energy,

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not aiming their heads, and you
know, May talked about it after

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the game that this is kind of
the chip on the shoulders pack Club Tournament

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for them. They get a su
and they get that twelve to three win

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a team that pretty much handled Arizona
during the regular season, and now they

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face off against Oregon State and Arizona
had two games where they led in the

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ninth bottom of the ninth inning and
they blew it against the Beavers on the

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road, and Oregon State's number two
in the Pac Clubs, so they'll have

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an opportunity to get some quality winnings
there. So is there any kind of

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feeling, I mean, is there
any kind of feeling like they're actually playing

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well enough to maybe move on from
this thing? I mean, what's the

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confidence level? I think tomorrow is
going to be a big telltale sign of

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the season. If they're able to
get that win against Oregon State, then

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they have a decent shot of making
the NCAA Tournament. But I think you

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do need to get that win.
If you're Arizona, if you go one

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and one, you're back in Tucson, you go to and oh, you

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have a chance to advance in the
pack called tournament. Maybe you know,

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get to the semifinals and you're good. But that win against organ State would

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go a long way for Arizona's resume. So I don't follow this closely,

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and maybe Jay does a little bit
better than me. You honestly believe that

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they win tomorrow, and they do
a win or two in the in the

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tournament, they could get in.
They can get invited. I think I

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think they have a good shot if
they win the mom I'm not saying that's

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one hundred percent, but I think
there's a possibility of it, especially when

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you're facet a team like organ State, who's in the top thirty of RPI.

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Well, I think I saw a
note that that you know, their

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RPI isn't horrible. It's fifty six
right now, what's what's your record?

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You're a there thirty one in twenty
two. That's kind of mediocre, isn't

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it. Kind of it's kind of
middle of the pack. But I mean

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you get you get the RPI wins
and you know they performed well against USC

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at the end of the season.
You might be heading in the right direction

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at the right time. Okay.
It's kind of like the softball team,

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right and people said they could have
got in, they didn't get in.

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They should have been in given what
you saw with UCLA. Well, if

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you're if you're playing the middle of
the road, you're middle of the road.

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Might wrong. I mean, people
still felt Arizona almost got in to

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softball, almost got in. Yeah, really, yeah, they they were

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one of the first, the first
teams out. If they would have beat

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UCLA, they're definitely playing in the
softball tournament, Okay, And you feel

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that so strongly about the men too, you know, I just have the

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feeling that won the program's history.
Two. They were able to make the

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postseason last year, and their trajectory
at the end of the season with a

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quality win over organ State might put
them in. It's a slim shot,

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but I think it might. It
might put them in. So us what's

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turned for these guys? What's turned
specifically for the pitching all of a sudden,

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You know, I think that they're
just trusting the defense behind them.

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I mean, we saw it today
with Nick McClary being named Defensive Player of

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the Year in the Pac twelve.
Arizona's defense is very good. They have

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a good offense, and these guys
are finally trusting I think the defense behind

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them and not worrying about, you
know, trying to strike a batter out

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and get ahead. And they're just
pitching that right now and they're staying in

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the zone like today, May I
think pitch sixty percent of the strike zone

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today. So when you're attacking hitters
and you're not falling behind the counts.

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That's a plus for these pitch Yes, sometimes the ball is going to get

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hit, but that's college baseball.
But you have a defense that's one of

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the best in the conference behind you, and just having that confidence as a

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picture on mount I think help them
out. Has that been the problem throwing

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strikes? It has at times.
I know Chip Hills talked about that they

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need to find guys that are in
the strike zone. And for May in

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particular, he's had his walk issues
this season. He had three today,

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but he only gave up three hits, had three strikeouts, and again that

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that sixty percent number was a good
number for him today. But what's the

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atmosphere like, what's the attendance like
up at this tournament? Right and this

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is their second year doing it,
but is it you know, are people

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having fun or they going is that? Has it been an event worthy of

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you know what they have to go
through, you know to play this tournament.

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Honestly, I think the venue is
fantastic here at the San Francisco Giants

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spring training facility. It's a nice
venue in terms of fans. As they

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got the ten am game, uh
with it being one hundred and four out

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today. I think it's kind of
hard to draw attendance. It wasn't great

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attendance, but we'll see what the
later numbers look like today, right,

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Okay, okay, there is there
anywhere that they would play this in California?

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Or is it just because of these
great spring training facilities in Arizona and

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that's what that that can handle it. Arizona's in particularly Scottsdale, is a

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perfect place because you have so many
facilities like your say and Jay, and

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you look across the country like the
SEC. They're playing in Hoover, Alabama,

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and they got rained out today at
some point, and I think they

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picked that game back up. But
a lot of these tournaments have you know,

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weather issues. They have stadiums that
aren't up to part to MLB standards.

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And you look at the pack twelve
and you are in a MLB spring

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training facility. Um, it's just
maybe a leather issue right now. But

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I think in terms of college baseball, it's pretty good. Attendance during the

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later half. I know said it's
one hundred and four degrees exactly, well

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better than playing at ten o'clock than
at two o'clock. Yeah, or at

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five o'clock. Yeah, so you'll
be up there until they until they're not

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there. Uh, tomorrow you will
have Aiden and then I will be back

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for the semifinals in championship. Okay, Stanford's still the favorite to win this

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thing, you think, I think
so. I mean Oregon State, you

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know, they have the pitching,
they're always a very tough program. But

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Stanford's been playing really great baseball.
Um, I would assume they're gonna win

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this, but who knows. You
know, in a in a pool bracket

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like this and then single elimination after
that, you never know. Although it

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only takes swing game. Are they
Are they National championship caliber? Can they

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win the National Championship? I mean
historically yes, so I would not see

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why not. I mean, Stanford's
a very good program, they're well code,

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they have really good pitching. Their
defense is probably going to be an

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issue. I know they lost their
short stop from last season and I think

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he has fourteen fifteen airs on the
season. So you look at the defensive

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issues they have compared to Arizona,
that's not a good sign. But they

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definitely have the pieces to win if
they can figure out the defense. Okay,

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we got some time here. You've
been covering Arizona for a while.

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Now, what's up with the d
commits on football? You know, I

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think it's a strange situation, especially
with the kid from Hamilton last night,

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where two weeks ago he commits to
Arizona and today you know he's decommitted.

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You have to remember he's a class
of twenty twenty five. Maybe he got

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excited when he got the offer,
accepted the offer and committed, and you

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know, family members are like,
well you have a while, so just

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you know, decommit and slow down
a little bit. I don't think it's

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a panic, No need to panic
for Arizona fans, especially so the tea's

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twenty twenty five. You have the
kid who from Hawaii de commit um.

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You know, more programs are going
to look at him. But I don't

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really think it's a big issue.
It happens throughout a recruiting class. Uh.

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You see the class that Jet has
put together so far, there's a

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lot of good pieces and you're just
gonna have to let it play out and

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sometimes bepacammit's happened. Who's the best
player that they've recruited so far? You

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know, for the next class,
for the next class recruited or committed,

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committed, committed, sorry, committed. I would say the running back out

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of California. And I know he's
only a three start back for Rivals,

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but the kid is really good.
But the issue with him is he plays

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in a small high school out in
you know, Inland, California. As

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he gets more exposure, I think
a lot more programs are going to look

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at him very fast. We saw
that he had that forty yard gas time.

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I think it was four point two
something like that. I mean,

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it's something insane. What was it. Didn't you run a tend something hundred?

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Yeah, yeah, that's what it
was. Yeah. But um,

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he's just been fully incredible. So
I think that's the top guy right now

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on the recruiting class. So if
you're a betting man, would you say

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how many wins next year? Seven
and five? Wow? Look at you.

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You're a betting man in a delusional
one. No. I think I

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think the schedule really sets up nicely
for them in terms of, yes,

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you have Mississippi State on the road
this season, but unfortunately for the Bulldogs,

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you know, without Mike Leach there, we don't know how that's gonna

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look and then you have Stanford on
the road, and Stanford's going through a

407
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transitional phase. And right after that
you get the Huskies at home. And

408
00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:52.319
I think it's really good that you
get Washington in Tuoston early in the season.

409
00:29:53.480 --> 00:30:00.799
Okay, we'll see. Well.
I was gonna exchange of text messages

410
00:30:00.799 --> 00:30:04.960
with Anthony Gemina, who we know
rights for rights for Lindy's, and we

411
00:30:06.079 --> 00:30:11.680
talked about Athlon had Arizona at eighth. They've also got h Lindy's also has

412
00:30:11.680 --> 00:30:15.000
Arizona in eighth. I asked Anthony
how many how many wins? He said,

413
00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:18.720
they didn't pick a number of wins, but they have them ranked fifty

414
00:30:18.839 --> 00:30:23.920
first nationally, which puts them in
bowl game territory. So how confident are

415
00:30:23.960 --> 00:30:29.839
you, Troy of Arizona going to
a bowl game this year? I think,

416
00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:33.039
say, well, I think you've
seen a trajectory of the program where

417
00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:37.640
the offense improved last season, the
defense showed side at the end of the

418
00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:41.519
year, and he brought in all
this defensive talent, and you know,

419
00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:45.440
guys like Justin Flow really impressed and
during screen ball, and yes, it's

420
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.759
only spring, but these are high
level athletes at Arizona. Hasn't been getting

421
00:30:48.839 --> 00:30:55.480
before. I think they are going
to be going bowling this season. Is

422
00:30:55.559 --> 00:30:59.039
that six and six or something five? I don't know. I lean more

423
00:30:59.079 --> 00:31:02.000
towards something five, But I do
see them in the ball game this year.

424
00:31:02.279 --> 00:31:07.400
Well, very optimistic you and Jake
Fisher exactly. You know, I

425
00:31:07.519 --> 00:31:11.079
know we can only guess and speculate, and we don't you know, we're

426
00:31:11.119 --> 00:31:14.079
not in the locker room and stuff
like that. Will there be any Jaden

427
00:31:14.119 --> 00:31:17.880
Dolora effect of you know, good
because of the stuff that's gone on.

428
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:21.559
Does that affect the locker room?
Does that affect the team at all?

429
00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:23.400
Does that affect Jade Delora at all? What do you? What do you

430
00:31:23.599 --> 00:31:29.279
think on that? I mean,
I think one thing is for sure,

431
00:31:29.359 --> 00:31:33.079
winning tears all. If they're going
through a downward trajectory where you know,

432
00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:40.480
losses start piling up, then maybe
it does. But if you win and

433
00:31:40.599 --> 00:31:45.640
you're consistent and um you kind of
are more on the positive side, maybe

434
00:31:45.680 --> 00:31:48.279
it doesn't. In terms of just
the bare bones of it, It's got

435
00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:52.920
to affect some guys in there.
I'm sure it does. I know they

436
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:56.559
know their teammate and they probably still
love their teammate, but just knowing the

437
00:31:56.640 --> 00:32:02.359
facts that are out there probably support
early with some teammates, but the true

438
00:32:02.480 --> 00:32:07.279
test is going to be on the
road when you're at let's say as U

439
00:32:07.880 --> 00:32:13.079
and you have that student section,
you know, getting riled up in shanty

440
00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:17.559
Jaden Delora because you know something like
that's going to happen in college environments and

441
00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:22.039
how are they going to handle that. So let's talk a little quick about

442
00:32:22.039 --> 00:32:27.319
Tommy Lloyd. I'm sure we taught
we had your guy yesterday from Go Easy

443
00:32:27.519 --> 00:32:30.160
and Matt I don't even know who
your guy is anymore, from a bet,

444
00:32:31.759 --> 00:32:35.880
just all this stuff. Maybe a
month ago people are saying Tommy Lloyd

445
00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:38.400
isn't the guy. A month later
they're saying, yay, look at us.

446
00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:44.960
Yeah. You know, Arizona fans
are very funny to watch on Twitter

447
00:32:45.400 --> 00:32:49.480
panicking when you know Arizona missed out
on them heart and at the end of

448
00:32:49.480 --> 00:32:54.680
the day, In my opinion,
Jaden Bradley's actually better upgrade than getting nemhard

449
00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:59.119
because he's only a sophomore. One
year at Alabama. He was a five

450
00:32:59.160 --> 00:33:02.440
star recruit, very good defensive player
and kind of versatile at back guard position.

451
00:33:02.559 --> 00:33:06.599
So I think Tommy got a huge
upgrade there. Then you go out

452
00:33:06.640 --> 00:33:09.119
and get to Shad Johnson, who's
very tough and physical, kind of reminds

453
00:33:09.200 --> 00:33:15.279
me of Sean Marion from the Phoenix
Suns, defensive first, rebounding guy that

454
00:33:15.400 --> 00:33:20.039
likes to get out in transition.
And you look at how they've pieced together

455
00:33:20.200 --> 00:33:24.400
this roster right now, Arizona is
projected starting by with Umar Vallow, Tasha

456
00:33:24.599 --> 00:33:30.839
Johnson, Pella Larson, Jaden Bradley, and Kylan Boswell. That is light

457
00:33:31.000 --> 00:33:35.839
years ahead defensively than they were last
season, and it might be their best

458
00:33:35.880 --> 00:33:40.160
defensive lineup since the Stanley Jarnson era. There's a lot of defense first players

459
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:45.359
there, and I think you're gonna
see Kyl and Boswell taking a massive jump

460
00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:49.039
this upcoming season. So they're gonna
have to score more than twenty points a

461
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:53.440
game. Where's the point's going to
go from? Well, again, I

462
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:58.839
think Kyland's gonna gonna put up some
buckets and Umar is gonna take another step

463
00:33:58.920 --> 00:34:01.680
forward. As you know. Does
he improve on his thirteen point nine points

464
00:34:01.720 --> 00:34:05.839
the game? I don't know,
but maybe he's more efficient. But I

465
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:08.599
think the key offensively, two of
the keys for its under this upcoming season

466
00:34:09.079 --> 00:34:13.320
is going to be pelle Larson's three
point shooting, if he can improve from

467
00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:16.400
an up and down year where he
got hot a fan, and then freshman

468
00:34:16.599 --> 00:34:21.760
kJ Lewis, who I think is
very underrated, kind of reminds me of

469
00:34:22.000 --> 00:34:27.239
a wiry kind of Devon Mitchell type. Surprise athleticism, good defender, but

470
00:34:27.360 --> 00:34:31.039
can shoot the basketball and if he
gets those opportunities, canny score. Okay,

471
00:34:32.159 --> 00:34:37.519
thank you, Thank you for Troy
for filling in, thank you for

472
00:34:37.639 --> 00:34:40.360
being our source for everything. I'm
going back to this podcast in a couple

473
00:34:40.360 --> 00:34:47.719
of months. Okay, Okay,
well we'll see come in November where I'm

474
00:34:47.760 --> 00:34:51.840
at. Yes exactly, Hey,
thanks a much. I appreciate you being

475
00:34:51.920 --> 00:34:57.480
Johnny on the spot. Later.
You know these guys, you know,

476
00:34:58.199 --> 00:35:00.679
yeah, you know these guys how
much homework? He makes sense? Not

477
00:35:00.800 --> 00:35:05.800
like our guy Jason, who said, yeah, Lakers, have you ever

478
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:09.519
looked at me like what happened to
you? I find I'm not gonna listen

479
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:16.840
to Jason? Or is it all
right? Let's take our last break it

480
00:35:16.880 --> 00:35:20.679
We'll take your calls. Would love
to take your calls on any of this.

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00:35:20.800 --> 00:35:24.480
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eye on the ball on two Suns
Sports six ya, Fox Sports fourteen fifty

534
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streaming live. I mean I heard
radio A welcome back to try on the

535
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bat here on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve, He's Jay. Now

536
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we have about fourteen minutes. If
you dont give us a quick call,

537
00:39:19.199 --> 00:39:23.119
we'll take it. Kind of question, Well, how many times would your

538
00:39:23.280 --> 00:39:30.119
parents have to tell you to quit
doing something stupid before you actually stopped doing

539
00:39:30.199 --> 00:39:36.239
it? That never happened? They
want? Right? Well, yeah,

540
00:39:36.320 --> 00:39:39.360
I guess yeah. I mean if
they told you don't run into the street,

541
00:39:40.000 --> 00:39:44.360
right, you know, right,
don't? Right? Yeah? My

542
00:39:44.480 --> 00:39:47.599
dad never see you. Just give
me a look. But they told you

543
00:39:47.719 --> 00:39:51.119
once. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was it right, right,

544
00:39:51.800 --> 00:40:00.719
you know, I mean the fourth
Georgia football player in the last five months

545
00:40:01.480 --> 00:40:08.320
has been arrested for reckless driving.
This goes to not directly, but kind

546
00:40:08.360 --> 00:40:13.559
of around indirectly. Is what I
brought up to begin the show, is

547
00:40:13.679 --> 00:40:19.519
that you have this program. There
are a bunch of studs stars, right,

548
00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:23.119
your stuff doesn't stink right, and
you don't think anybody's gonna touch you

549
00:40:23.239 --> 00:40:28.159
because you're this guy. And then
all of a sudden you're no longer needed.

550
00:40:28.280 --> 00:40:31.960
You're not that guy anymore. And
that's obviously happening in Georgia, right,

551
00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:35.920
I mean one times a mistake,
four times, Well, you got

552
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:38.159
a problem. You got a problem, and Herbie Smart has got a problem.

553
00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:43.079
And I don't know how you fix
this problem other than by saying no

554
00:40:43.280 --> 00:40:46.199
tolerance. You do this, you're
gone, You're gone, You lose your

555
00:40:46.199 --> 00:40:50.800
scholarship, you're off the team,
and you're not playing Georgia. Pill that

556
00:40:50.960 --> 00:40:54.079
Jay is the price of winning,
right, the price of winning. You

557
00:40:54.159 --> 00:40:58.719
have a debate here within your own
self what can I put up with?

558
00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:01.679
But he's so good that I gotta
keep him. Yeah, I mean one

559
00:41:01.840 --> 00:41:07.559
and again famously, one of the
ones that the speeding UH related to arrest

560
00:41:07.599 --> 00:41:13.199
with Jalen Carter got charged with street
racing and reckless driving and a person got

561
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:15.320
killed because he was racing something right, and what happened to him, what

562
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:19.039
happened to him? He got drafted
in the first round. It's glad you

563
00:41:19.039 --> 00:41:22.119
went because that where I was gonna
go with it, because if you're good

564
00:41:22.239 --> 00:41:25.880
enough, they figure out. Okay, we'll kind of we'll work through it

565
00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:30.199
looking at the background. But okay, yeah, let me tell you something.

566
00:41:30.239 --> 00:41:34.559
Arizona has that issue here. It
just does. Uh. Public perception

567
00:41:34.679 --> 00:41:38.079
is not great. With the question
you asked, Troy, I told you

568
00:41:38.400 --> 00:41:43.599
the older dudes, the older some
of my older friends have are conflicted about

569
00:41:43.639 --> 00:41:46.320
it, right, they should be
and they should be. What about your

570
00:41:46.360 --> 00:41:51.880
group, Well, you have the
smart dudes. You know they're they're conflicted

571
00:41:51.920 --> 00:41:55.360
as well. But I think Troy
also makes a point. If Arizona's winning

572
00:41:55.400 --> 00:42:00.519
games, what price winning? They're
gonna stop thinking about I said winning.

573
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:05.239
Okay, I guess okay. I
know we talked about this with the principal.

574
00:42:05.360 --> 00:42:07.719
If he was the third string quarterback, would he still be here.

575
00:42:08.840 --> 00:42:13.760
Yeah, you're probably Yeah, no, you're you're absolutely or alignment or something,

576
00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:17.320
yeah, third string anybody. Yeah, sorry to say no, I

577
00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:22.360
think I think you're right, Steve. But it's just crazy that. I

578
00:42:22.440 --> 00:42:24.400
mean, you see these things.
You know. No, I don't MBU

579
00:42:24.480 --> 00:42:28.559
as a fan. I gain you
know, I love sports. I love

580
00:42:28.599 --> 00:42:30.840
them sports, but I'm not a
fan of the sports because of this.

581
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:31.960
You know, I don't want to
go home, and since should I.

582
00:42:32.199 --> 00:42:35.639
I don't want to be conflicted.
I just want to watch a good game.

583
00:42:35.760 --> 00:42:37.920
Yeah, you know, I joke
about my my love for it.

584
00:42:37.039 --> 00:42:40.039
I love it, of course,
but it's like, God, I'm glad

585
00:42:40.039 --> 00:42:43.440
I don't have to cry or we're
worry about my team not winning, you

586
00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:45.920
know what I'm saying this? Yeah, no, and every you know,

587
00:42:45.000 --> 00:42:47.480
And Steve, I don't know.
I know what you were like as a

588
00:42:47.559 --> 00:42:52.360
teenager. I was. I was
an idiot, but I was very close

589
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:54.199
to that, you know, and
I did a lot of stuff that but

590
00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:59.119
all I knew. I knew that
if I got away with it once,

591
00:42:59.639 --> 00:43:04.360
Yeah, the chances of getting away
with it a second time were extremely love

592
00:43:04.480 --> 00:43:07.000
Well. The thing about it with
whatever it was, the thing about it

593
00:43:07.079 --> 00:43:08.840
with you, and I was a
very good kid. I really didn't get

594
00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:13.199
into trouble. I had older friends. But for you, and this is

595
00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:15.400
just an evaluation I'm going to in
my Kim and Leman mode. Uh,

596
00:43:15.679 --> 00:43:19.519
you had your dad, and you
feared your dad, but you also have

597
00:43:19.559 --> 00:43:22.039
big brothers. I feared my brother
and you and Rick was your influence.

598
00:43:22.079 --> 00:43:25.199
And Rick would to kick your ass. So you had a couple of dudes.

599
00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:29.360
Maybe Jean Doo would to kick your
ass, right, So not just

600
00:43:29.519 --> 00:43:31.400
one dude. Yeah, I had
my dad and I just didn't want to

601
00:43:31.400 --> 00:43:35.800
disappoint my dad, so I just
didn't do I did, and you correct,

602
00:43:35.840 --> 00:43:37.559
I see when I was doing stuff. I don't take your cope and

603
00:43:39.679 --> 00:43:42.960
you know when I was doing so
it's like, God, if I get

604
00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:44.760
caught, you know what am I
gonna say to my dad? And we're

605
00:43:44.920 --> 00:43:47.159
gonna say to Rick, right,
my brother, because you won't get it

606
00:43:47.239 --> 00:43:51.159
once you get it twice right,
right? But then again, any of

607
00:43:51.239 --> 00:43:54.760
those guys had done things in there, Yeah, but yeah, don't do

608
00:43:54.920 --> 00:44:00.639
don't do as I say exactly.
But but you know it was I don't

609
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:06.000
know, just I just see stuff
like this and I go and again,

610
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:08.320
look, I never had as much
to lose. Yes, there was my

611
00:44:08.400 --> 00:44:12.760
life, but I never had as
much to lose as these financials. Who

612
00:44:12.800 --> 00:44:16.559
are gonna could we financially set if
they just stay on the straight and narrow

613
00:44:17.480 --> 00:44:22.599
John Moran, Right, and they
can't help themselves? Well, I go

614
00:44:22.679 --> 00:44:27.880
to this again. Athletes being athletes, you kind of feel bulletproof. If

615
00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:32.320
you've been guarded and protected for a
long time, you feel guarded and protected

616
00:44:32.360 --> 00:44:37.480
for a longer time. Yeah,
because you can play basketball. And you

617
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:38.760
know what these guys are. If
there was a great column a few years

618
00:44:38.800 --> 00:44:42.719
ago, maybe twenty years ago,
and I still have it somewhere. These

619
00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:45.599
are just grown men, big men
who play a game very well, right,

620
00:44:46.079 --> 00:44:50.559
Noe? Just what we don't do. We don't play a game very

621
00:44:50.599 --> 00:44:52.800
well, right. I mean,
think about Lebron James. We talk about

622
00:44:52.840 --> 00:44:55.239
how great he is and all these
things. He's a high school graduate,

623
00:44:57.079 --> 00:45:00.440
right, he didn't go to college. He's got a high school ed ucation

624
00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:02.599
and he's doing all the same time, he's been very smart and he's done

625
00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:07.159
all the all the smart things,
and he's not you know, he's surrounded

626
00:45:07.239 --> 00:45:09.480
himself with some great people, but
in the end, he's a high school

627
00:45:09.519 --> 00:45:14.679
graduate, and there's a lot of
stuff that he didn't learn on the way

628
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:17.800
up. He's learned along the way
probably, And I think he's a very

629
00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:22.559
smart guy. But if he was
just a little less smart, he would

630
00:45:22.559 --> 00:45:27.920
be John Morris right right. You
you when you covered the Triple A baseball

631
00:45:27.920 --> 00:45:30.079
team here, and I'm gonna probably
say too much here, did you enjoy

632
00:45:30.199 --> 00:45:37.599
it? Um right there? Kind
of tell me yeah no. But there

633
00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:40.079
were a lot of reasons other than
the guys who I was covering, okay,

634
00:45:40.159 --> 00:45:44.440
which I just didn't like it.
I just didn't like working fourteen nights

635
00:45:44.480 --> 00:45:46.719
in a row covering a game that
four hundred people went right, right,

636
00:45:46.880 --> 00:45:51.559
right, okay, But dealing with
the guys there were so many of those

637
00:45:51.599 --> 00:45:53.800
guys who, like you know,
came out of played baseball, came coming

638
00:45:53.840 --> 00:45:57.360
out of high school, and I
thought, dude, you're not really smart.

639
00:45:58.079 --> 00:46:00.480
And there's where I was gonna go
with it, right it for two

640
00:46:00.559 --> 00:46:02.400
years, I was probably a dream
of mine because he was in Dallas,

641
00:46:02.519 --> 00:46:05.920
helped with the major league team,
came here, come from Triple A.

642
00:46:06.000 --> 00:46:08.119
It's gonna be a breeze, right. It wasn't a breeze for that specific

643
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:13.519
reason. They're guys who came out
of high school, didn't have college experience

644
00:46:13.599 --> 00:46:16.320
with the media or whatever, treated
you like, treated me like craps,

645
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:20.079
sometimes didn't want to talk to me, or just you know, kind of

646
00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:22.639
treated me badly. And I'm thinking, this is not why I came to

647
00:46:22.719 --> 00:46:24.079
school. You know, Justin talks
about it, with this, with this,

648
00:46:24.639 --> 00:46:28.199
I felt that at the Triple A
level, the guys didn't want to

649
00:46:28.239 --> 00:46:30.880
be there. They didn't think they
deserved to be there, right, they

650
00:46:30.920 --> 00:46:34.599
wanted to be there, They always
thought they should have should they think they

651
00:46:34.679 --> 00:46:36.079
took it out on you. No, I don't want to talk. I

652
00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:37.440
don't need to talk to you.
You know what I'm saying. And it's

653
00:46:37.559 --> 00:46:40.840
just two people talking. Yeah.
Now, there are very few guys at

654
00:46:40.920 --> 00:46:45.360
Triple A who were just on their
way up. But once they any guy

655
00:46:45.400 --> 00:46:49.239
who got their Triple A thought I'm
good enough to be up there, and

656
00:46:49.360 --> 00:46:52.199
they were not happy to do play. We had a fun conversation about that.

657
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:55.159
You talk about guys at A and
Double A right there, they work

658
00:46:55.280 --> 00:46:59.320
hard, they play hard. Yeah, they gave it everything. They have

659
00:46:59.440 --> 00:47:01.679
a certain move because they're trying to
make their way up. But you know,

660
00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:06.079
and then we all agreed that all
those guys that once they got to

661
00:47:06.159 --> 00:47:08.440
Triple A, man, they just
like, Okay, I've made it when

662
00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:13.679
you really still have not, especially
the guys who were come down right,

663
00:47:14.760 --> 00:47:15.639
I don't want to I don't deserve
to be here. Yeah, you know,

664
00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:17.960
I'm you know what I'm saying,
And that's what it was. For

665
00:47:19.039 --> 00:47:22.360
two years. I've think guy I
regretted rated go into the park. One

666
00:47:22.360 --> 00:47:24.719
of the great one of the best
lines I ever got from a from a

667
00:47:24.800 --> 00:47:30.840
Triple A manager was when Sammy Khalifa, the Tucson guy, got sent I

668
00:47:30.039 --> 00:47:32.880
got sent down to the miners and
he had I mean, he got to

669
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:36.960
the majors pretty quickly, but he
was in the majors by the time he

670
00:47:37.000 --> 00:47:38.960
was nineteen years old, got out
of Sorrow High School. You know my

671
00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:46.039
high school. Yeah. Um,
So he got sent down. And it's

672
00:47:46.079 --> 00:47:51.039
funny because the guy would get sent
up and he was up and he was

673
00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:53.400
there, you know, within hours. And the coach of the team,

674
00:47:53.639 --> 00:47:59.159
their team, his team happened to
be playing in Tucson when Khalifa got sent

675
00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:00.880
down, and it would start in
the four game series when he got sent

676
00:48:00.960 --> 00:48:02.760
down. So I'm like, I'm
supposed to do a story. Sure,

677
00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:06.639
as soon as he gets here.
And I said, when's he gonna get

678
00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:09.679
here? And he says, the
road back from the major League is a

679
00:48:09.800 --> 00:48:14.320
lot longer than the road to the
Sure did he even make it to two?

680
00:48:14.320 --> 00:48:15.360
So he got here. He got
here for like the last game,

681
00:48:15.760 --> 00:48:17.519
you know, And then I had
to go get him in the locker room.

682
00:48:17.519 --> 00:48:21.039
And he wasn't a yeah he did, he wasn't two son, He

683
00:48:21.079 --> 00:48:23.239
did, you know, looky here. People want to hear how you're doing

684
00:48:23.320 --> 00:48:25.639
it. I kind of had to
talk to him. Sure, sure,

685
00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:28.400
of course, you know. Yeah, And but he talked to me.

686
00:48:28.480 --> 00:48:30.239
He was fine, he was he
was okay, and he played and you

687
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:32.000
know, he was gonna work his
way back up. I don't think he

688
00:48:32.039 --> 00:48:35.519
ever got back up there. Well
really, I thought he just went back

689
00:48:35.599 --> 00:48:38.639
up. No, I'm not,
but he maybe this was Steve. This

690
00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:43.840
was nineteen eighties. Yeah, I
remember. I remember that because because come

691
00:48:43.880 --> 00:48:45.119
on, he was a short stop
of the major league level from here.

692
00:48:45.239 --> 00:48:50.239
Yeah, yea, from my high
school. Yeah, that's the other thing.

693
00:48:50.280 --> 00:48:52.960
As we went high school. I
can come in to your high school

694
00:48:52.239 --> 00:48:55.239
talk to me. He was he
was that he actually handled very well.

695
00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:59.119
But to kind of link it all
together. That's just it's not what people

696
00:48:59.199 --> 00:49:02.480
think. The guys, but they're
you're good until they don't need you.

697
00:49:02.719 --> 00:49:06.519
You know, they kind of get
guarded there. They're fixed things for you,

698
00:49:06.840 --> 00:49:09.119
right, I'm sure you've seen that. Yeah, of course, of

699
00:49:09.199 --> 00:49:12.880
course. I mean, well,
you know we always saw that. You

700
00:49:12.960 --> 00:49:15.480
know, look and you know when
we traveled with the guys, you saw

701
00:49:15.519 --> 00:49:17.880
how they got treated. Of course, the basketball team sure stayed at all

702
00:49:17.880 --> 00:49:22.559
the nice hotels, ate at all
the nice restaurants. Here's the funny thing.

703
00:49:22.079 --> 00:49:24.159
Here's the funny thing with that.
Because I followed them for a long

704
00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:28.800
time. You know that Blot stayed
at the best places. Him and Bobby

705
00:49:29.039 --> 00:49:31.440
ate the finest restaurants. The guys
didn't want to be there. They wanted

706
00:49:31.440 --> 00:49:35.840
to eat burgers. They wanted to
go to the holiday and and have some

707
00:49:35.960 --> 00:49:38.639
burgers. Just get and just get
out of there because there wasn't their place.

708
00:49:38.800 --> 00:49:42.440
Yeah, it's part of the book
too. I remember Damon saying that

709
00:49:42.719 --> 00:49:45.119
the one thing that he and I
didn't put it in the book is he

710
00:49:45.000 --> 00:49:49.440
grew up because of loot, because
he didn't know where the forks went,

711
00:49:49.599 --> 00:49:52.599
which forked to use riyada, YadA, and he appreciated that because they went

712
00:49:52.639 --> 00:49:54.880
to the nice place. Right,
No, it was Yeah, those are

713
00:49:54.920 --> 00:49:59.400
funny experiences watching these guys, right, some of these guys who would never

714
00:49:59.480 --> 00:50:02.239
had any all of a sudden,
there there are some fancy reste treated great

715
00:50:02.320 --> 00:50:06.320
and we're treated great. Uh.
You know that one of the first road

716
00:50:06.360 --> 00:50:08.360
trips I took with the basketball team, they were in San Diego and they

717
00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:12.960
got taken to Anthony's, right,
you know, the famous seafood play.

718
00:50:13.400 --> 00:50:15.559
And most of those guys didn't know
what the hell to order because they've never

719
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:17.519
seen a menu that looked like that, Like ordered the burgers, right,

720
00:50:17.559 --> 00:50:21.199
we're the burgers of fries. But
I got to order, you know,

721
00:50:21.800 --> 00:50:23.960
a piece of fish or some crab
or whatever. Well, isn't that the

722
00:50:24.000 --> 00:50:28.360
famous line from Joe Turner? What
are you going to order? A super

723
00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:32.840
salad? The super salad? Those
are big salad, soup or salad,

724
00:50:37.519 --> 00:50:44.119
the completely And we're telling stories now
at that dinner at at at Anthony's.

725
00:50:44.360 --> 00:50:49.039
So I and I got invited to
go Steve Condon who was the trainer and

726
00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:52.719
he was the travel guy, so
ye, go to Anthony. So I

727
00:50:52.079 --> 00:50:58.360
I was sitting there with the team, and I just remember Joe Turner reached

728
00:50:58.440 --> 00:51:02.199
like across three guys to pull something
off of somebody else's plate. I'll send

729
00:51:02.400 --> 00:51:07.360
this arm comes across my plate to
the other side of me, and these

730
00:51:07.440 --> 00:51:12.199
these long fingers on his hand.
It looked like somebody you know, had

731
00:51:12.280 --> 00:51:15.039
one of those, like like a
skick with fingers on the end, and

732
00:51:15.119 --> 00:51:20.920
he pulled, like some French fires
something off of somebody's Yeah, Peter Pete

733
00:51:21.119 --> 00:51:24.119
Williams talks about Joe Turner and he
was the only dude to drive a car.

734
00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:28.559
Who can you know, be able
sitting in the car drivers and put

735
00:51:29.079 --> 00:51:31.280
put a quarter on the floor outside
the door and he would be able to

736
00:51:31.360 --> 00:51:36.639
reach it, you know, reach
around over the door and reached out and

737
00:51:36.679 --> 00:51:38.320
reach out and kid, it was
so funny. That was an experience.

738
00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:42.519
I didn't eat with those guys very
often. Actually, I can only think

739
00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:45.599
of one another time that I did. But that was like my second road

740
00:51:45.639 --> 00:51:50.079
trip. The only the previous one
before that they played Sason and the last

741
00:51:50.119 --> 00:51:52.199
one because he because I'm sure,
no, no, no, that well,

742
00:51:52.400 --> 00:51:55.119
no, I went to the last
one was the only other time.

743
00:51:55.239 --> 00:51:58.760
Yeah, the last game of the
year. It didn't happen very off,

744
00:51:59.159 --> 00:52:00.880
which I will tell you. I'm
for every I think I've mentioned. I

745
00:52:00.920 --> 00:52:04.039
don't know if I mentioned it to
Craig McMillan when we had him on.

746
00:52:04.400 --> 00:52:08.639
I'm forever grateful to Craig McMillan were
introducing me to steam plans. I had

747
00:52:08.679 --> 00:52:13.360
never had him before. We went
to this place called the Warehouse in Marina

748
00:52:13.440 --> 00:52:15.079
del Rey, Okay, and Marina
del Rey was it was on the LA

749
00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:19.400
trip, and we got invited.
Jack Rickard was a citizen report at the

750
00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:23.239
time. I went to him and
in McMillan got everybody, all the players

751
00:52:23.320 --> 00:52:28.519
to order the steam plans, which
came in this giant a bowl, a

752
00:52:28.599 --> 00:52:31.119
bunch of the heat. And I
hadn't had any, and so I got

753
00:52:31.199 --> 00:52:35.159
him too, and I had him, and to this day, on my

754
00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:38.000
sixtieth birthday, we were in it. We were in LA and my family

755
00:52:38.320 --> 00:52:42.920
family and I went to the warehouse. I should have told him that he's

756
00:52:42.960 --> 00:52:45.519
a big fisherman. Yeah, one
of the good guests. Okay, good,

757
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:49.840
a lot of fun, great great
stuff. As Steve and I get

758
00:52:49.880 --> 00:52:52.119
into the story time and you never
know, all right, so we'll be

759
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:55.079
back tomorrow, right, Yeah,
They heard you know you're gonna be off

760
00:52:55.159 --> 00:53:00.559
Friday, So we'll see if I
haven't decided we're going to get a chest

761
00:53:00.599 --> 00:53:02.239
host or if it's just gonna be
Jason and I. But we'll have a

762
00:53:02.280 --> 00:53:06.280
show and we'll talk about where we're
going to talk about. We're talking some

763
00:53:06.360 --> 00:53:09.480
Sugar Skulls later in the week,
trying to get the Sabino softball coast,

764
00:53:09.960 --> 00:53:14.119
and then had a big game Boomera
got a request, and then we want

765
00:53:14.119 --> 00:53:15.519
to maybe talk some arison the football. So we hope you'll be with us

766
00:53:15.519 --> 00:53:17.039
the rest of the week. We'll
be around