Hello, everyone, Welcome back to a new episode of the Poker Girl Podcast.
I promised you all an interview with Daniel Wineman y ka Daniel win Maine,
the twenty twenty three World Series of Poker Main event champion. Tim is
laughing at me on the video because we're doing this remotely, but here we
are. I spoke with him the other day. He invited me up to
his suite. Quite nice of a suite they have over at Horseshoe. I
didn't really know that it was that nice. But you go up to like
this whole separate floor upstairs, you gotta have a key to access it.
You gotta have a key to go into these doors on the inside. Look,
it's pretty baller. Not gonna lie, but yeah. We'll just throw
it to the interview now, got about twenty minutes or so, and then
we'll come back into and I will react to what Daniel Wineman had to say.
All right, Daniel Winman or should I say Daniel win Maine. First
thing I got to ask is who who came up with the last name?
That was a buddy of mine from Georgia Tech. His name is Stan That
that was the first thing he texted me was just that name, Daniel win
Maine, and I thought it was too good not to change my Twitter handle
for at least for a couple of days. Of course, now it's been
a couple of days since you won the main event twelve point one million dollars.
I know after you immediately won, Karas Scott puts a mic in your
face and it's like it just happened two minutes ago. There's a lot of
thoughts going through my mind. But now has it sunk in a little bit
more? It still hasn't. I mean, I don't know how long it's
going to take. There's probably been three or four moments in the past two
days where it just kind of hit me all of a sudden. I was
Toby and I were on the golf course yesterday. I was standing over a
pud and just had to back off. It was just like, I just
want the man. So I think it'll all sink in when we get home
and life starts to get back to normal, or as normal as it can
be. Up until this year, you haven't really had too much success in
the main event. You had one kind of deepest run one hundred and seventy
third place in twenty twenty one. But other than that, I mean you
joked on Twitter being over ten like all this sort of stuff, looking at
those like, well, what was it that you were just unable to produce
any results? I really did not like this tournament for the first ten to
fifteen years, you know, coming at the end of the series, you're
obviously pretty burnt out, and then to sit down and see two hours on
the clock in between levels, even though that's the same as every other tournament
you get two hours between breaks. For some reason, just seeing an hour
forty seven left and a level just didn't sit well with me for some reason.
And I always just did something stupid or punted early and probably gave away
six or seven, you know, potential runs in main events, just wanting
to be done. I played the main event for the first time last year,
and I feel that same thing. I remember, like looking at the
clock and they'd be like, there's ante, there's an hour thirty level.
What is we're still playing? Same? Like can we speed this up?
Like we can we get it moving? So I understand what you're saying there.
So then does it help that you went home for a month or so
beforehand before this monament. Yeah, that was the biggest help in this run.
Every other year, it's just been here from the start to the finish
and play poker every day and no breaks. And having this month at home
to kind of recharge, you know, see friends and family, you know,
be with Sarah, go into work and kind of forget about poker for
a little bit. Just made me come out so recharged and ready to play.
Everyone of course knows about the jack's hand, jack's versus queens versus kings,
but there was a couple other very big hands that you were involved in.
One was, I believe you had ace king of diamonds versus aces,
and the woman Debbie Lee flopped an ace as well, and then you went
run and run or flush so and then there was you had ace king of
spades versus jacks of Chris Lee and queens of another player when it ended up
folding when you flopped the trips. But like I guess, just talk about
like the big hands of the big moments, like does it ever just start
feeling like this is your tournament, this is my run, this is my
time? It does? You know? The ace king and diamonds vers devis
aces was such an interesting hand for so many reasons. I mean, I
think in any other tournament you would just say, oh, it's just a
standard cooler they got in. You know, I can't even tell you what
the blind level was at that point, but probably sixty or seventy big lines
we got in, and it's something that in the main event you might not
want to do. But she had been playing fairly aggressively and it was very
funny because I know her boyfriend also made a deep runt in the event.
I saw the two of them talking on break ten minutes before this hand happened,
and I had played with him the day before and seen him four bet
bluff a few times, and I had gone after him a few times.
So in the back of my head, I'm thinking that she's going to him
on break saying, you know, Dan's three betting me, Like what am
I going to do? So I'm thinking, Okay, maybe he's telling her,
Okay, maybe four bet like the first time. So if I don't
see them talking on break, do I still make the five bets of If
I see that she hasn't just done an interview with Jeff Platt, do I
not know that I'm going to win? The all in so many weird like
coincidences happen in that hand and then the jack's versus queens versus king's hand,
which old you know, go down forevers you know, my most famous hand
probably once you hit that jack, you know, I go right to the
to the rail and Sean Deep says, this is your this is your tournament.
Now, I mean, is that is that the most memorable moment then?
I mean, or is it or is it trumped by you know,
the winning moment. That's probably going to be the most memorable moment for so
many reasons. You know, obviously, you know, hitting the two adders
incredible, you know, Unfortunately, busting one of my really good friends and
Josh Payne and just I didn't see it in the moment, but have rewatched
the video so many times and seeing the pain on his face, I mean,
it sucks. It's it's just we we've talked about it since and you
know, we both know it was probably a two to three million dollars real
money pot that you know, you don't want to play those kind of pots
against your friends. You know, I'm the kind of person I wish everybody
could win, but unfortunately that's not how it goes. There was a lot
of pain in that hand, no pun intended, but you had kind of
a pained look on your face when you saw the jack's knowing what had happened
in front of you. Then you move all in and even before the money
goes in, Josh is like, oh my god, like does someone really
have aces here? You know? So that moment is just it's got to
be how to control, right you win the hand, right you hit the
jack, that the river's clean? Are you kind of feeling like a sense
of a free roll in a way like you should be out now you're still
in? Like how does what goes to your mind there? And how are
you able to sit back down and like play because they talk about all the
time like taking bad beats and you have to recompose yourself. But there's also
like uptill and like getting really excited and then you can kind of freak out
in that way too, So how are you able to just get back down
and like focus again? Yeah, it's you're one hundred percent right that you
have to refocus, you know. As soon as the hand happens, I
think I shoot up to seventy million in chips. I'm probably maybe eighty.
And I think I'm second in chips at that point. And Josh Arier was
on the rail as well and calls me over before another hand is dealt and
my heart is racing, you know, two hundred and fifty beats a minute
probably, and Josh says, breathe, like you still got to go play
poker, Like there's still an hour in this level. Like it's great,
you have all these chips, You're going to win this tournament, but like
you need to go back and play poker. And I tried, but it
was probably a good two hours and like deep into the next level before I
even felt like things were back to normal, like and I could compose myself
again. How is it with that support system you mentioned Sean d Josh Are
There's also Matt Clance. It's like there's a lot of guys that are in
your corner. You've been around for a while. You're one of the nicest
guys in poker by far. You know, how was it being able to
just kind of like recenter yourself with the support of them all throughout the tournament?
It's incredible. I mean I've always said that, you know, having
good people to talk poker with to have in your corner is so important for
any poker player. I mean, so many of these guys now, I
think they do a lot of it on their own and they're at home with
the solvers and locked in a room, and they are ten times the poker
player I am. But you know, having these people to talk talk things
through with and get advice from at or away from the table is just so
invaluable. You make the final table, you're doing pretty well and Chips,
it's the madeament is so crazy because it's so long. It's like a two
week long thing. It's a marathon. It's certainly not a sprint, and
it's kind of in a way like two tournaments in one you're almost playing to
get to the final table, and then it's like resets for a sitting go
in a lot of ways, Like what are your thoughts going into the final
table? Is they're a feeling of I made it? Is They're a feeling
of like this is my shot? Like what's going through your mind at that
point because you do have a whole day off and you hit the golf course,
you know, so hopefully trying to get away from that mindset a little
bit as well. It's it's crazy. I mean the day off was probably
the most stressful day of the whole tournament, to be honest. You know,
Toby and I went out and golfed and that, you know, took
some of the stress off for a few hours. But I knew I had
so much friends and family coming in and all of them were texting me.
You know, some of you know, the ones that understood poker kind of
knew that I needed to be away from it all. But everybody else,
you know, you know, my parents are incredible, but they are blowing
up my phone NonStop. It's like, you know, we're getting in.
Where do we go? You know, what do we do? How do
we check in? And I'm like, I just I can't deal with all
this right now. And I'm so fortunate that Sarah kind of took the helm
on that got all of the parents set up, got all of the friends
in and taken care of and really just let me kind of relax and focus
before the two biggest days. That's great. Then you make it to three
handed play, right, So you got Adam Walton, You've got Stephen Jones.
Adam Walton comes out of the gate and it's like playing his style that
we've seen throughout the whole tournament. Stephen Jones is playing probably his style as
well, a little bit more conservative, you know Walton specifically like wasn't scared
to put money in the pot, wasn't scared to play big pots. Is
that what you expected for three handed play? Yeah, I wasn't exactly sure
what to expect. I kind of had a feeling that coming in they both
kind of viewed me as the favorite, even though Steven came in with a
slight chip lead. So I had a inkling that maybe their coaches had said,
you know, let's try to play big pots with you know, the
other person, get heads up with Wineman with a big chip lead. That's
kind of how I would have taken it if I was one of them.
Well, they I'll tell you that they when I talked to them at times,
they both cited you having big chips and kind of being worried about that,
which kind of seemed a little bit weird to me, to be honest,
because you don't want to like feign any sort of lack of confidence at
that point. You want to be like, Yes, obviously, Daniel was
a very good player, there's a lot of very good players in this tournament,
but you've also made it here too, and you have a pretty The
chips were pretty even at that point, so it's interesting that you kind of
heard about that or knew about that and like picked up on it. Well,
it was a little strange. I know you said that, you know
you mentioned them saying that, and I thought it was. There were at
least two times at the final table where I played pots against at him and
ended up winning them. One was aces when he turned sixes into a bluff
for two streets, and one was just a smaller pot earlier at the final
table when he just looked at me and said, you're the last person I
want to give chips to. And I'm sitting there thinking like, is this
just is he like trying to get in my head or something like Well,
then there was a hand riveted queen with these queen He had sevens in the
big blind. He didn't three bet you're open, But I thought I was
watching the hand at the time and I thought, well, if Steven Jones
would open, I think he would have three bet you know versus you,
which you know. I think that goes back to what you're seeing where he
said earlier in the final table, I don't want to play hands and big
pots against you specifically. Yeah, it kind of makes sense. I remember
the hand. I haven't gone back and watched yet, so I didn't know
he had sevens. He had mentioned flatting a bigger hand prix. But it
does kind of make sense that they kind of wanted to place smaller pots against
me, not get into big spots. I think I have this reputation of
being willing to go for it in big spots and make big calls that other
people wouldn't necessarily make, and maybe just make better decisions in big pots.
So it seemed like they wanted to play much smaller pots with me, including
even in heads up. You know, I was so shocked when Steven started
limping buttons heads up as deep as we were not to want to play bigger
pots in position. Yeah, I want to ask you specifically about the heads
at play. So Jones comes in first. He starts raising I think the
first two or three hands, and they were larger sizes. You were going
I think the big blond was two and a half million. You were going
to six million. He was going to like eight and a half, you
know, so that starts, then he quickly switches and he starts limping.
Then he goes back to raising for what was ultimately the final hand. But
I mean, how did you take to his strategy? At first? He
was raised for the first two or three hands, then he went to limping,
So how did you kind of were you like kind of shocked or surprise
in a way. I was completely shocked when heads Up started. I mean
I've played very little heads up poker outside of being heads up in tournaments,
and I think I've done fairly well, like over my career and that,
but definitely no expert in heads up. Kind of just have a very basic
strategy that I use, you know, making it six million and adding a
third of the thirty three percent on the flop, and it ended up,
you know, making a lot of money when I was on the button.
But for him to come out and make it three and a half x the
first hand and then you know two and a half x the next hand and
then start to throw in some limps. I had the feeling that he was
getting some coaching kind of before Heads Up started, and he was trying to
do too many things and eventually he kind of settled into I think what he
wanted to do, which would start to limp all off the buttons. But
it definitely threw me for a loop just to come out and have to face
all these different sizings and have some marginal hands that I knew wh I'd defend
against the mid Rays, but suddenly can't defend against you know, the eight
and a half million opens. So what was ultimately the final hand? He
comes in with the Rays, You defend the king jack off. You both
flop top hair, but your kickers better. You get a check raise in
on the flop, you bet the turn, you size it up a bit.
He goes into the tank for like I felt like three minutes, and
he's at times it was like he kind of looked like he was strong,
then he looked like he might be weaked, and it was really interesting.
I mean, what's when he's tanking for that long? What do you what
are you thinking? I mean, how are you thinking it? Are you
just are you really just kind of worried about like not giving anything off yourself?
Right? It's funny because you know, I think I've heard since then
it was like almost exactly four minutes he tanked before he shut of, it
felt like fifteen It was definitely the longest tank I've ever faced in a hand,
And once it gets past like the minute or two mark, it feels
genuine. It feels like genuine uncertainty, like I don't know what to do,
and to me, it just kind of screamed he had a medium strength
and which it's going to be a weaker jack or some middle pocket pairer that
he doesn't know what what to do, doesn't want to face a big bed
on the river, so kind of just wants to try to shut out my
draws. You know, if I'm him in that spot, I just call
and reevaluate the river, which ultimately would have gone check check on the ace,
and he's still in the tournament. But you know, I can't fault
him. It's it's such a big spot. You know, he has what
should be the best hand, as it's such a draw heavy board, and
as some you know, neither of us have a ton of heads up experience.
I can't I can't say I wouldn't have done exactly what he did.
Now, there was another kind of interesting spot on this hand. He tanks,
then he jams, which is kind of surprising a little bit, you
know that he jammed after that long but then you like kind of stand up
and he says, I faded the snap call, Like, so what does
that tell you anything? That must tell you more that he has a medium
strength and right absolutely, you know that's something we think internally all the time,
but to say it out loud when we're playing for all of this money,
I was like, it just kind of made me more confident in my
read kind of exactly where he was at. And then you know, I
stood up and just kind of made sure of everything. You know, yeah,
it was gonna I mean, you didn't snap call, but it was
also like you were never folding from what I saw. It was like,
I just want to kind of verify the count that it's in the ballpark of
what I thought, and I'm gonna call because there is you know, six
million dollars or whatever it is on the line here. Let's not just go
crazy. Ye in any other tournament in the world, you know, after
you know, his long tank and clear tough decision, I would have called
in half a second, but it's just like you said, like I just
had to make sure, you know, heads up. I felt like I
was winning heads up, but I wasn't exactly sure where the counts were at,
so I wanted to make sure it wasn't you know, almost even in
chips, and I had somehow lost some pots heads up with that really realizing
it. But like as soon as I stood up, I could even hear
from the rail like, oh, he's calling, he's calling, It's over.
Well. I always say when I'm giving the commentary that you never stand
up and fold. You always stand up and call. It's a rule.
So we knew you were calling when you stood up. We mentioned the money.
I have to ask you, what was there a deal? Because there's
a lot of back and forth on social media, so what's fruck Straight from
the source, there was no deal. The three of us, when we
got down to three handed, talked about a deal. And I don't really
want to get into anyone's business too much, you know. I know a
lot of people have investors. I know a lot of people would rather keep
this stuff quiet. But we didn't make a deal. We talked in the
morning a little bit about it. Steven and I were kind of the most
vocal, and Adam kind of seemed to want to go for it, which
is kind of how we played, so you know, it kind of makes
sense exactly. So you know, we we briefly talked, we couldn't really
come to an agreement, and I'll just you know, I think that text
in the group chat was let's just have fun today, boys, and then
heads up playing no deals there. I mean, you had a big lead,
so that's a little bit different you. I think you were about three
to one in chips. Yeah, that was another one because Steven and I
had talked separately that we might consider a deal heads up, because no matter
what, if you think you have an edge, and you know, I
probably thought I had some small edge over him, heads up. You don't
want to play heads up for six million dollars. You know, I don't
know what amount of money you would need to, you know, be comfortable
playing that stakes. But I don't have that money. So when we got
we had talked separately and said, you know, if we get heads up,
let's reconsider. And we got heads up, and I don't know,
I just felt so confident in the moment the people I had on me.
I went to my rail after busting Adam and asked them, like, you
know, what do you guys think, and they said you're gonna win.
So we Steven and I met briefly on the break between Heads Up, and
I think he was kind of expecting us to talk, and I said,
you know, I just I'd like to play for like finish the level out.
Let's see how Heads Up goes. If we get closer to even and
chips, maybe we'll make a deal. And it wasn't meant to be like
an intimidation tactic, but I think he took it that way, and like,
I do want to apologize because it wasn't It wasn't meant to throw him
off his game or anything. It was just kind of in the moment I
felt like I couldn't lose. Yeah, I mean that's understandable. You had
about three to one. I think he had about one hundred and sixty million
or so. You had four or forty million. You had just knocked out
Adam Walton. You know, so even if the chips were the same going
into Heads of Play, if Stephen Jones were to have knocked out Walton,
maybe he feels a little bit more momentum. So you know, in that
regard, you know, it's understandable, and you know, your apology sounds
very genuine, so good on you for that. Have you been congratulated by
Donald Trump? Have not heard from the don our mutual friend. Maybe that's
because you called him out on the broadcast about moving the ball or something.
It's it's very possible. It's very possible. I think it's you know,
that's kind of widely known that he bends the rules a little bit out there
on the golf course, but maybe it hasn't been made public, you know
on TV before. We have like a close mutual friend that you know,
this guy HP who lives in Philly that plays a lot of golf with Trump
and has become friends with me through golf and poker, and he's been congratulating
me NonStop. But honestly, like it's been there have been so many messages
from friends and family that I still haven't gotten through everything. So and maybe
sitting in there, you never know. So you played poker for a while,
then you kind of got out of it. You know, you're doing
the whole RF poker thing right now. Now you're back and you win the
main events. Where does Daniel Wineman go from here? It's such an interesting
question, you know, I've told everyone so far that I don't think my
life will change very much, and I still think that's that's true. I
mean, I'll be home tomorrow. The real world, will you know,
come calling, And I truly enjoy what I'm doing with RF poker. Um.
The reason I took a step back from poker was I wasn't enjoying it
anymore. So to just win the main event and and league go back to
doing what was ultimately making me miserable for the last five years, I just
can't see that happening. So I talked to a lot of people this year
because I was really struggling with this, you know, in the past few
months, and the most successful ones all kind of told me the same thing,
that poker is a fantastic hobby and just a terrible way to make a
living. And I couldn't agree with that more. Now that you've won the
main event, you've won twelve million dollars, does it take that pressure off
and you can really now treat it as a hobby? I think it does.
You know, more money obviously makes life a lot easier. You know,
I'll be I'm not the first person to say that I won't be the
last. But I still I have no desire to go play the highest stakes
in the world and play the best in the world. I'm still going to
do the things that I enjoy and just try to live my normal life.
You come back next year, your banners on the wall, what are you
thinking? It's maybe it'll sink in then it still doesn't feel real. Three
handed. The seat that I was sitting in at the final table had like
a perfect view of the last few minute event champions, and it was like
I couldn't stop myself from thinking, like is my banner going to be up
there next? And it like it just all came together, all right.
That was twenty twenty three World Series of Poker Maine, him and champion Daniel
Weinman. What do you think Tim good winner, bad winner? Yes,
good winner. I think he's going to be around. I think he's a
good ambassador for poker. I'm just not really sure how much he actually will
play. We get the hint that you know, maybe he'll just continue working.
The money isn't life changing, so I'm not sure if he's going to
be like espen or KRII playing all the high rollers, playing all the events.
Well, you heard him. You heard him say that he doesn't really
have an interest to play. That's fine, which is fine. You know,
his wheelhouse is more of um I would say ten K and under and
then if it's a ten cave and it's probably like those ten k mixed game
events, those championship events that they have of the World Treos of Poker.
So yeah, I think he'll be good. Like he in the interviewed the
year. He's so well spoken, He's done a lot of press already,
gives everybody, you know, the full amount of time to answer questions.
So on that side of things, I think he's going to be great.
Yeah. And I don't know if you saw it today. It's Friday,
July twenty feet on social media, but he tweeted a photo of back at
the office. Yes, I wonder if that's I wonder if that was a
staged photo. I wonder if it was, you know, just him like
I'm gonna pop in say hello to the team. Maybe we'll do a little
photo, or if he was actually their grinding code. It looked like he
was actually grinding code, but who knows. We should actually take that photo
photo shop the background on the screen to like the key moment from the main
event run like he's rewatching it. We should stop that, you know,
stop the meme train going. That'd be great. Seaan deeb mentioned that he
missed an opportunity to be wearing the bracelet. Yes, he did in the
in the photo. I mean everyone always asked it. If you know the
win event champ is you know, good in terms of being an ambassador for
the game. I think Wineman will be. Um. You know, I'm
kind of like you, I don't know how much we're gonna see of him,
Like just in terms of out there grinding the tournament circuit. He got
away from doing just that. Um in recent years, even this year.
You know, he came out at the beginning of the World Series of Poker,
then he took about a month off, then he came back for the
event obviously wanted. So I think we'll see him pop in here and there.
Um, you know, going back to the World Series of Poker's announcement
in conjunction with Gigi Poker for the WSP Paradise event in the Bahamas, they
invited all the final three players and the and the champion of course you know
down there. So I'm guessing we'll probably see him hop down to the Bahamas
invited or paid to go there, because there's a difference. They said Tie
Stewards on the mic, and he said, you were all invited. I
don't really know exactly what that means, but I mean you and may are
invited as well. Well, yeah, so we're invited to pay our way
to show up there. Um, you know, but I don't know what
they have in store for them. Um, I would guess you would probably
want to make way at least for the champion to be down there for sure.
I mean something like some paradise packages, you know, where it's a
main event entry, maybe it's a one of their opening event entries, and
then one of the high roller entries for the Final nine. Even if they
wanted to spend a little bit of cash, that'd be a nice little way
to hey, we're really actually behind WSP Bahamas, WSP Paradise and we want
our final nine there, you know, to put on a show. Well,
I'm gonna say they don't have to do that. These guys got enough
money. If you finished in the final nine, you made nine arcade.
The only thing that I would possibly think to offer them is. I'd be
like, you can have free rake back, or you can have a free
room or whatever it is. I wouldn't would dip into the buying stuff.
Yeah, free room would be a good. Free room would be good,
you know, and and like an upgraded room Atlantis a suite or something like
that, you know. I don't I don't know exactly what's on offer there.
What's atlant it's like to stay at the actual hotel? Have you stay?
Yeah, it depends where you stay. Um, if you stay over
where like the conference rooms are, where the tournaments are held. I mean
it's it's fine. It's it's not super nice. It's not really crappy either
way. Um. I mean the pushback that you get from a lot of
people is the price tag that's associated with it. Like you pay the price
of let's say, like a win, but you don't get the win,
right. But it's it's fine. I mean, I don't really know what
you're I mean, you're going to a destination where that the prices are going
to be high, especially in December, you know, kind of peak season
to go down there, get out of you know, the Northeast or some
other colder areas around the us. So that's fine. But if you do
stay over at the cove, like on the other side of the resort,
and when I mean on the other side of the resort, it's on the
other side of the resort, like you have to like take a golf cart
to I get to the other side. That's really nice over there, for
sure. I've only stayed on the the main side and it's you know,
it's been fine, but like I'm every time I've gone, you know,
and a lot of these poker players too, every time that they go,
like you're just going for work or poker, and like, how often are
you really going to be in the room? Do you really need like a
super nice room. I mean, as long as it's clean, as long
as it doesn't smell, as long as it doesn't have bedbugs and all that
sort of stuff, which none of this has ever had in my experiences there.
You know, it's fine. It's fine to just sit there and sleep.
So all right, I'm packing my bags, right, Okay, what
are your thoughts on the whole no deal slash deal or deal it's been going
on? And do you think we can finally put this to bed now because
we just heard it from mister Wineman himself, there wasn't a deal. If
there was any year to have a deal in recent times, this was the
year the gap of you know, six million dollars between first and second.
But it was interesting to like actually hear from him and how how it all
went down. You know, we had the group chat and then we got
the end of you know, in the morning, they're like, you know
what, let's just play. And then even as he discussed heads out with
Stephen Jones, how they well, let's play at the level, let's see
how it goes. It was very interesting to hear the deep insight into what
actually happened because you know, as you mentioned, where everyone was just guessing,
you know, about what was going to happen. If there was going
to be a deal, What kind of deal could you could you make here?
You know, IICM or just a plane chop it up three ways.
So it's great to hear Daniel kind of be open about that and you know,
settle it, Settle it once and for all. Yeah, I agree,
And I mean I don't think from where I stand. I mean I
believe there was no deal both three handed and heads up play. I've I've
now heard it from multiple sources, including the source Daniel Weinman, that there
was never a deal made, whether that be three handed, whether that be
heads up, whatever was. I know there's people out that I were saying,
like, no, we heard that there was a deal. We heard
this, We heard that. It seems crazy that there wasn't a deal.
Like I've heard it from enough people that I respect and trust, you know,
and including Daniel Wineman, who we just heard from. So there wasn't
a deal, you know. So yeah, I mean that's crazy. It's
pretty wild, but that is what it is. How much proger do we
think Dan Wyman's gonna play going forward? I mean, I guess this can
be tied into the whole ambassador thing. I mean, I think we're going
to see him pop his head in there here and there. I just don't
know, Like again, if we're going to see him fully in the circuit,
like all of a sudden, you just win twelve point one million dollars,
you know, you pay your taxes and whatever, you have a you
know a bunch of money in the bank. Now, are you're just going
to go out there firing every single thing? I mean, no, I
don't know. It seems like he's very much into golf and his job,
and his job entails a lot of coding, you know, and he really
seems to love that. So yeah, I think that's where we're gonna see
him, and then we'll probably see him for some of the bigger stuff,
you know, whether that be the WSP Paradise in December or WPT. I
mean, he he's also a WPT champions so it's kind of interesting that he
he specifically is going to have to choose in December. I mean, Bahamas
is closer to Atlanta, yes, you know, it's just a very short
flight, not that Vegas is super far away, but um my guests would
be you know, being the reigning WSP Manament Champion, he'll opt for Bahamas.
But you know, he's also a WPT champion. He's also WPT Tournament
of Champions winner, so you know he's going to have I guess his heart
strings are pulled in each direction. I'm pretty sure that unless you win WSP
Paradise that you could technically play both. Yeah. I think someone pointed that
the dates it's going to be, it's gonna be very tight. But assuming
there's three days for the World Championship and assuming you don't make the final table
for Paradise and also assuming that closes out the close out the series, I
think he can play both both. You're talking about the main events, both
main events, Yes, which ones? First? Paradise is scheduled. It
finishes on the thirteenth, So I'm going to assume it's very similar to like
a WSP Europe and obviously wspre and the I guess where the main event kind
of finishes right at the end. So you know, look, if you
don't final table that you probably have a good twenty four hours to get to
Vegas. If you do final taple that, well you can probably get a
private jet and still make it in time. Well, if anyone can afford
a private jet, it's probably Daniel Weinman right now. So you know,
and I would I mean, maybe WPT hasn't released their full schedule yet.
I know they put out the dates, but maybe they do something where they
add day two registration or something like that to allow for those people that would
be to be coming to the Bahamas. So but that's it relatively short podcast
here, but we just wanted to let you guys hear from Daniel Weinman,
and then Tim and I are going to be following up next week with more
of our bigger kind of recap on and everything that happened in the last week
at the World Series of Poker. We're going to hit on some final questions.
We're going to go through our WSP predictions, see who was right,
who was wrong, all that good stuff. So you guys can stay tuned
to the feed for that and until next time, we'll talk you wid freak
tonight on chanting Spread