This is the two seventeen Recovery Podcast with Corey Winfield. Yeah, it's hard
right now, It's tough. It sucks. You want to call a hole
and die, but this could be the best thing that's ever happened to you.
Justin Burke, then we actually take better care of her than our plants
are you're talking about Susan. You're back on that. Yeah, and Mitchell
old Brian, I watered all of the plants, all of them. It
is the eighth of March twenty twenty four. My name is Cory Winfield.
This is the two seventeen Recovery podcast. Joining me obviously, Justin Burke,
what's us? And Mitchell O'Brien. All right, how's it going? Guys?
Doing Good's Friday May through the week, fabulous night week ends after tomorrow?
Okay, so that works because you have your meeting, so you kind
of incorporate that into it. That's cool. What are you doing this week
in Justin daughter? Oh yeah, what else? Get my mom her new
phone? Whoa, So you got your mom a new phone? What else?
That's it? Huh? I'm confused, Mitchell, me too. There
was a lot more to this story because I read your blog, which anybody
can do it. Two seventeen recovery dot com slash blog. What about it?
Well, you wrote a blog. They well, internet maybe hooked out
for like a week. You love your mom. Oh that's right, okay,
so you got your mom on the internet. Yeah, and that doesn't
concern you. It doesn't scare you, you know, for like you're enabling
no, okay, because she's just gonna expect this from you from now on.
She's probably gonna quit her job. None. You'd be paying a rent,
rent, her own rent. You're opening a door justin. That's letting
in. Not good stuff. I remember goal sheet that said differently than what
he just said. What do you remember it saying, Mitch, I remember
saying how he wants to make his you know, life situation better so we
can move certain people in with him. Well, I'm working on that.
It requires a lot of money right now to a tax agency that I'm dealing
with, So that way I can't be able to afford to have an apartment.
But instead of having an apartment, you making sure she's got internet because
that's a bill too. That kind of comes out of what you could be
saving a little bit. I think he got the Internet because he needed it
for himself. Kind because your mom's on the backwoods right well, in bald
Ones. Yeah, that's what I said, backwoods. So she stays up
in Baldwin in the woods and there's no internet there. Well, she says
she doesn't cancel the Internet. I'm like, no, she can't cancel the
internet, bro, What are you gonna do when you're there? If she
doesn't have internet Internet people use internet all over the earth, Bro, It'll
be boring with the Internet new to her. She don't want to pay at
and T SKYI prices for Internet, so she's going to cancel the internet.
What is in my brother's name else got canceled recently. I don't really follow
the cancel thing. I just kind of like who I like and don't like.
I don't like. Yeah, So when people are like, we're going
to cancel eminem, I just kind of chuckle. It's cute. That makes
him stronger, right, But I can't remember your name now? Justin Wow,
Jordans here wants to like, man, I'm horrible with names. But
Marshton's on the two seventeen Recovery podcast. Yeah, I say called Mitchell Marshall
forever. Yeah, but no, so Justin wants to cancel the Internet,
like, I don't think you can do that, bro, Or she wants
to at her house. Yeah, she's not that powerful. Maybe she is
that backwoods that she thinks she can cancel the Internet. Well, not like
the whole internet, just service at her house. Oh yeah, so confused,
clearly. So she's canceling because it's too expensive. Yeah, just trying
to take back some of them bottles. There's other things that people can cut
out of their life. But it's so funny how we'll start to cut those
things out first, you know. And her addiction that I'm not saying anything
about who's addicted, who's not addicted. I'm just saying myself personally, like
I would do that same thing. I don't even need it. I'll have
Netflix instead of like me going, maybe I just won't spend money on Booze
anymore, you know, like that been that had been the easy choice.
But no, no, no, like our addicted brain, that's not even
an option not have Booze. No no, no, no, that's option
one. I'm having that first. Yeah, I convinced myself that I would
save a bunch of money not drinking, and then also the fact that of
how much weight they gained and how many calories it was and how bad that
was for me. And I was like, I really need to stop doing
this, and a year later I was still still doing it. So I'm
gonna start tomorrow. Cutting baffling powerful. Yeah, it just keeps going and
going. So, like to Justin's troubling story here, So the Internet is
coming in a couple of weeks, but her phone's you got it with you.
Yeah, that's my car in your pocket. That's out in my car,
the car you don't lock. Yeah, okay, well now everybody know
the thing. It'll be gone by time people hear this. That's true.
Not that be stopping by to check it out. Hey, I gotta run
out to my car real quick. Okay, hold on for you. So
that'll be nice for her to have that, though, I think, and
you know, doing stuff for other people, and you said in your blog,
it makes you feel good, you know, it really gives you that
sense of like not that you have to buy people things that you can mow
their yard, you can clean up their dishes, you can do whatever tons
of stuff that you can do for them, but you know, buying them
things that they couldn't afford or that they normally wouldn't blurge on themselves for it.
You know, that does feel good, and I'm proud of you for
being able to do that. Yeah, my mom gave me a bunch of
money last last summer when I was going through like my divorce and was down
and out as on's like trying to pay my old cell phone bill because I
was too stupid just to calm down and shut it off even I had a
company phone. Yeah, I think your boss finally told you. Yeah,
and I finally did, and but that was like three fifty a month and
car and shirts, car payment rut, like I was trapped for cash.
Like my mom paid my whole way last summer, you know. So,
I mean she won't ever take anything back from me neither at all. So
you know, like I've offered her money. Here, have some money,
you know, and like still, Mike go down there on weekends, Like
she don't charge me for food or anything, like shell two hundred dollars at
the grocery store, like I want your money. She buy that good food
or she buy off brands. No, she buys good food. I mean
offerand stuff can be good food too, Yeah, good food, nice home
cooked meals. So what are you guys having tonight? I don't know what
do you want tonight? I really don't care. My throat hurts so bad
it hurts to swallow. Yeah, it's that man voice. Finally, I'm
so proud of you for that. Thanks so much. I appreciate what do
you What are you gonna have tomorrow morning? Mm hmmm? I justly don't
eat breakfasts anymore about lunch? When you so, you wake up, you
take your shower, you get you all shirt off, naked, and you
call them Mitch and I then video head to the head to the fridge.
What are you grabbing? Blown eat bread and peanut butter and jelly mac and
cheese, Like what do you what are you making over there? Because you're
talking about you just out there eating pallor food. I mainly just eat dinner.
I'm down there, okay, So you just wake up, take a
shower, do whatever. Don't enjoy internets you don't have it yet. And
then you're just like all right, you just sit around wait for dinner,
Like what do you do? Like? You take your daughter fishing? You
help her school work. Yea, lately I just yell at her the whole
time. Yeah, shirt off? That sounds weird. It was, it
was, It was weird for well, yeah, before you're at home with
your shirt off? I know. And it's because I don't want you to
call me anymore like that, like stop video calling me, bro, That's
what I'm like. Maybe, yeah, maybe if I answer with my shirt
off, he won't do it anymore. And no, you just you mean
me? Yeah, and you're like, okay, so this just means we
could both be naked. I don't even I got nothing, ye that nothing
to say. Really, I tried for shock value and it just gave him
permission and it was terrible. Yeah. I started looking at my button's like
what okay, this is nor this conversation? What can I hit? I
was born with mine? But but I can identify it now? What drops
can I? That's insensive? It's cool. So we're going to start a
podcast and we might as well talk about it now. It's going to be
called Recovery Dads, and we can talk about being dads. Yeah, okay,
Mitch just made a reference to sucking penis. I know you want to
talk about that. You want to talk about that for a minute. Place.
Oh yeah, but I don't know why you're showing me that. Oh
you got a cough? Well no, we can't hear. Yeah, well
you're muted. I'm going to mute Justin's too. Okay, look, okay,
So the second I did that just year, I realized he's not going
to see a cough. He's going to see an opportunity. I don't know
what else you're saying, like, acause we were talking about that before we
did the podcast. Yeah, that's why we started a podcast. I was
like, well, this is start. We're talking about this stuff about how
he doesn't really care for it. Whoa all out there? He's not saying
he's closing the door. Both are no, and he doesn't like to return
it neither what no way, I'm not trending on tinor anymore. It just
baffles me. It explains the patchy beard. Yeah, I watered all of
the plants. Yeah, all of them? About all you did? Right,
So yeah, that did happen though. We were talking about that,
and then Recovery Dance podcast was something I was going to talk about and thanks
for the gesture, Mitch. That was fun. Uh yeah, the Recovery
Dance podcast we're going to start. I don't know when that will officially kick
off, but got some little equipment today so we can do like the show
from the road. Yeah, they don't have to be a no studio,
no stupid nice studio with Corey's crap and cameras everywhere. But we can take
it on the road if we want to, and that'll be fun, I
think, And first we were talking about maybe we will. I will see
how that works out, but I really want to have a place where it
looks good. But filming it in a certain location, you know, we
can post like a video thing too. But I've always been a radio guy.
I've been more intrigued by radio. I see people doing them on YouTube
and people watch them, and that's cool and all. But the beauty of
a podcast is you can listen to when you're driving down the road. You
don't have to pay attention. You can just use ones just listen, right.
You know, you can be in the shower, you can be taking
the dump, you can be in bed sleeping like you just listen to the
podcast. So it's a lot easier to listen as posts to watch it and
how much time and effort is it going to take to put that together?
True that I don't know. I don't know. I'm still waiting for my
video from Recovery story man. Well, yeah, I was going to do
it this weekend, but I don't work weekend, so just wait until you
have Parker. You'll understand. Yeah, And I won't work weeks either on
weekends. I've really enjoyed how the dynamics have changed around here since like when
we started, because I really felt like it was everybody gang up on Mitch
back then, and it's a lot more pointed at all of us now.
You guys will come at me, but then you go, you know,
and we can you know, jump on justin for a while, and you
know that's it makes it easier for me, you know, a less stress.
You're still the pivot man. Yeah, that's that's fine. Yeah,
I definitely give that back. So no, I gotta hit it, Mitch.
Which one got your ass two times? Because you can't drive. Dedicated
Germany, Duran. We should start doing that, is dedicating it to Germany
every time. I don't know, we should say this whole name, the
whole jd oh, Jermy Jurman. I like Jeremy though he should be on
a couple of months hopefully, Yeah, should be. I'm sure we'll see
him. That'll be fun because like, did he get boot camp? I
don't think so. They call it jail or prison. No, I don't
know about that. I thought he went to prison. It was definitely prison.
Yeah, he went to prison, Okay. Boot camps is a release
program. Thanks for tuning in, Like, well, whatever happened, but
it was a boot camp's early release. They go there for like ninety days
to see if a well their attitude and hole well being and ship. He's
gonna be out for about then then depend how well you progressed. I don't.
I don't have to do that drill. You can get out. Here's
why, because it's an eighteenth Amendment all your time. Well, we'll see.
I don't know, but I remember just last year having him around it.
He was like he's a fun person to you know, and looking forward,
like towards this summer, it's like, what events are we going to
do? Apparently Mitch thanks signed up for a bunch of cool stuff to do
for the Cherry Festival. Yeah, the fun ones. Yeah, Like I
was like the last conversation I had with the assistant director about that was like,
we should probably not do that this year because there's a baby coming in
the picture. I'm probably not gonna be around for it. I don't really
want to commit to that when we need five people to do that and we
just lost a member of the staff, not the you know, like,
I don't know, we're down a member. I'm out. Martie's out,
like, yeah, probably shouldn't. Probably shouldn't like start like volunteering for things,
committing the things. I can get five people, we got, We've
got Kim, we've got a driver. He won't be because he'll be taking
treatment. It's not on the weekend. It's during the week. Last last
year, last year was the weekend? Oh was it? Most of the
stuff was on the weekend. We did stuff during the week, not very
much. What huh? And Corey drove those times, well we're we're go
Mitch, Mitch, Smitch, Smitch. We've been having me doing volunteer management
training all year because I want you to head up the volunteer people. Yeah,
I want you to do that. So I know when Marty was like
because I was like, oh, we're not doing wait what we're doing it.
And she's like, yeah, mit, she's gonna do that. And
then so I was like, all right, cool, Well, if he
wants to do it, then you know he definitely can. And that's kind
of what his job was supposed to be. So did you sign us up
for the East Jordan Festival and the Boyne City Festival yet? Well? I
didn't have any hand in the East Jordan one, so I need to talk
to you about that, But the Boyne City one, yeah, we're perpetually
signed up for that until we tell him we don't want to be. So
I have a I think we should do the Paski Fair too, Tasky Fair.
Yeah, the Emmitt County Fair. Yeah, I do it. What
do you mean do it? Like? Show up, show up, fly
drone around? You need to build a float for the Pirate Festival. You
want to build a float for something else? I got an email and said
let's do this. I said, hey, what do you think about this?
All right? We should build a float. I'm out, mhm.
Did you talk with him about that? All right? Ken? That's your
nicknamed Ken. Shout out to Jeff Lang. Oh, I'm justin I like
Jeff, I'm just saying, Jeff understands if he listens to this podcast I'm
talking about. But back to the volunteering stuff. That'll be fun. That'll
be cool, and we can go to these events the Recovery Dance podcast.
Do the two seventeen Recovery podcasts. I'm not sure which one, but me
both. I don't know. It'll be interesting to see how they both coincide,
because like, if we were doing Recovery dance podcasts, like we would
have topics, we would have like followers days coming up and I don't know,
whatever Mother's Day is coming up? You know, what are you getting
your mom? You know, like stuff like that. It'll be fun.
I know that's not a really like an interesting podcast everybody in the whole world
probably want to listen to, but well no, I think it'll be funny
too because we can do like this is Mitch from the Recovery Dance podcast seventeen
Recovery. It'll be goofy yeah. And once you stuff like prompt me into
explaining details of the blowout, the first staper blowout, I have to deal
with. You're the joy of you two, like Jesus might come back in
that moment. Seriously, he might come back like, well, that's what
we wanted to see. That's the happiest any two people in one spot can
be. Just make sure you take pictures. Oh no, I just hope
you don't get a finger painter. Yeah. Some kids, you'll you'll go
get them in the morning when they're supposed to wake up, and they'll have
a whole Mozarts on the wall in their room. Like I knew. I've
known quite a few families that have gotten finger painters. And my kid wasn't.
My kid was cool because he had blowouts. But once he got like
old enough to walk. I remember this one time it started to happen and
he like stuck his hand back there and he brought it out and there was
doodoo on his hand and he just went eh and like reached out to me
like there's poop on me and didn't touch anything. Yeah, that's good.
I was on the phone with my mom. I was like, ma,
I gotta go yeah drop. My phone started wiping up. The Dodo changed
that one, and we were good. There was no no mess. But
you get them other kids who were like, oh, what can we do
with this? Let's play TikTok toe on the wall. Yeah, it's like
a roll of the dice. So and they say your kids need to be
ten times worse than what you were as a kid. That was great.
Mm hmmmmm it was I have no problems, straight up, angel baby.
I don't believe they even have the dimples. So the dimples got you away
with everything you did? Right, nod like, Yeah, Cory was pretty
much perfect. Out of all of her children. My mom would have to
say I was the best. Really well, it says the same thing she
said, if your brother would have came first, I would have never had
you there. You go, Happy Mother's Day. So that would be the
cover dance. I think that would be the stuff that we would talking about,
just the fatherhood stuff, you know, and and different questions and different
things. Is we have different levels of fatherhood and recovery and and all that
stuff and how you kind of put it all together. And we'll have guests
on too that you know, we know people in early recovery and it's so
and I'm gonna say this is funny, but it's not how we've seen people
in super duper early recovery when they're trying to put it together and say they
enter treatment for the first time where they haven't really been a father for the
last ten years, five years, three years, whatever. And then they'll
get to treatment center and go, well, if you call my kids on
every Saturday at six o'clock, then I'm out of here. Like, wait,
when's the last time you called your kid at six o'clock on a Saturday?
Like never, Like what are you talking about? Like it's so not
funny, but it's funny how all of a sudden they'll be like, well,
I need to start making these demands. It's like, what you need,
what you need to do probably is just what people have been telling you
is listen, just pull the stuff out of your ears, listen to do
what you don't want to do, but what you need to do. I
laugh because of how relevant that is in the phone calls that I take.
It's true. I've seen it. I've heard it. I know I've heard
it. Every week you get at least one. So I was in the
middle of an intake, Well can I call my kid right now? We're
doing an intake. Well, then I'm out of all right, buddy,
see you Yeah, And then they they've had some Like we do transportation,
we take people to him from treatment. And in the early stages, people
call me, and one thing I've always said is we're not a rehab rescue
you know, we're not going to go rescue you from rehab to get you
back to your drugs. And this kid called and he's he wasn't that old,
you know, he's like twenty three, twenty four or something like that,
and he was just like, yeah, well, I need to get
back to my family. My stepdad is in the hospital and he just died.
So a family really needs me. They dude, even hooked on mes
for three years. Your family has not needed you in quite some time.
And I'm sure they're going to be able to manage this. Just fine.
I had the blessing of a family who were very open with the fact like
we don't need you, bro, like we want you gone. Yeah,
And that's my point is like nobody needs this kid there. You know,
like he was just making an excuse because he thinks, oh, I got
a perfect excuse that I can get out of treatment. And I don't even
think it's I don't even know if that was a real story, but he
just made it up, I think to get back to his drug of choice.
Because people will say some really crazy things sometimes. And I remember going
through treatment early on and it was excuse cent, your excuse anything, Oh
ben bugs, Oh the food sucked or pillow wasn't comfortable, anything I could
use. I was using to get out of treatment, you know, like
all right, I'm out of here, man. So like I get it.
I've been there, done that, you know. But it's funny,
like how far they'll go with it. I never could be like, oh,
I need to talk to my kid right now. You know, it's
not to be more creative with my stuff. But it's just so funny though,
how that does happen Again, it's not funny, but it is kind
of like, wait, so your whole family wants you to save the day
now because you've been in treatment for four days and you didn't get your way,
so you're gonna go home. Okay, Like that can start to happen.
But for me, it was like a year and a half into recovery,
you know, I started to get that trust back and people started to
depending on I mean, like I had to build that they're going to do
that. One that blows my mind is funerals and I kind of get how
that's a special time. But the person that it's for doesn't care that you're
not there. They would say that they probably would like you to get your
life together. Yeah, they like me up and heaven watching you for a
little bit before you joined them, not going out and you know, going
to their funeral and then getting put back in that temptation before you're ready,
you know. So, but I know not everybody agrees with that. Yeah,
my grandfather was. I knew he was getting close, and it was
just an act of God that I was able to be there, you know.
And I knew there was a good chance that he might pass when I
was in treatment that last time. But I also worked it out with myself
in my own mind that if he did, I'm the same treatment because there's
nothing I can do out there. Plus I was core ordered, so I
could But I mean, but I could have you know, I could have
faced the consequences after him. But like, well, my granddaugh you know,
I got adult, you know, but I knew that my family wouldn't
have wanted to see me there, and there's nothing I could have done,
you know. And just how it worked out, I was told that I
wasn't taking treatment serious and so ALSOLD I couldn't stay there ninety days, and
then I was going after sixty. And I think he died two days after
I got out of treatment, right before I was heading back to YEP just
Sober Living and I got my car fixed, and i'd seen him and he
looked like he just got out of a concentration camp, like they stopped feeding
him, and he's just so skinny, and just it looked horrible. I
didn't want to see him again. And my mom was like, are you
gonna see Grandpa before you head out up north? And I said, Nope,
I'm not. I'm gonna go Camel Zoo and I'm gonna need your ID
because I was still on the family plan planned because that's what forty year olds
do and get out of mama's family plan and that's what we do. And
they had told me a bunk phone the speaker wouldn't work. I mean,
there's so many little things with this story that all has to line up to
where it's perfect. And this is where I'm like, God, this is
all you, bro, Because hey, I get out of treatment early,
and I had some resembments about that, because first I was pissed off because
I was taking it serious, but I was having fun at the same time,
and so it pissed me off that they were like, no, you're
not taking it serious. You're out of here, and I'm like what.
And then I called a probation ouncer and she's like, why are they letting
you go early? And I said, because I'm doing so good clearly.
I said, oh, well, if you're out Tuesday, you need to
be here Wednesday morning at nine. I said, okay, sounds good,
and then I went back in. They're like, well, if you behave
I was like, no, let's go. I'm ready. I'm going to
start this podcast, I'm gonna start this company. I'm ready to go anyway.
So I'm fine, but I still having resmbmance for that. And then
I get home and I'm like, I need a new phone. So we
go to Calama Zoo. They send me a bunk phone might be like you
use one or something, and the speaker wouldn't work and it sounded all crappy.
So I called them. They're like, well, you got to bring
it back, but being on my mama's plan, I had to take it
back to Calama Zoo and I had to get her license and show them.
Hey, I'm on my mom's playing here. You go, forty year old
dude, what's up? And that's not just here? And you're giving me
a crap about giving my hook hooking my mom um with internet and phone.
Yeah, talk about enabling. Yeah. So anyway back to my story.
The problem is that's not just Kalamazoo. That's Kalamazoo from Boyt City. Well,
no, that's from Colomba. Yeah at this point, Yeah, it's
about forty five minutes something like that. Oh okay, yeah, so not
as dramatic now for Mitch, but still dramatic enough. And so I had
to drive back there, and my mom asked me going to see Grandpa.
I said, no, I'm not, you know, I don't want to
see him in that condition. And he said okay. Well, so I
get back from Kalamazoo. My car my stepdad had to fix it because I
had apparently ran into a dumpster, busted the headlight out and did some other
things. Yeah, and then like they sent a part in because my steps
I said, oh, we can get this part from the junk yard.
Well they just cut it right out of the car. Unfortunately, I had
wires that needed to be hooked up, so he had to senate bad to
get a new one. So, like Jason, the owner of Nathan's house,
he was like, why are you stalin? I'm like, I'm not.
I'm being serious. This is what happened. He's like, okay,
man, well you need to be here. I'm like, okay, well
it's coming. So so then I come home, grab my basket of clothes,
throw it in the back. I'm like, all right, I'm out
of here, start taking off. And then I stopped in South Haven because
they had the cheapest gas in the area, And so I stopped in Exodus
seventeen off one ninety six, pull up, start filling up the gas tank.
It's in my pocket. Mom's ID. Oh. First thought, I'll
just mail it back to her son't miss it. And then next thought,
aren't you trying to live life different? She gave you your ID so you
could go get your punk ass phone, your forty year old grown ass man
on your mom's family plan, and you can't take her back her efing license.
Yeah. I thought we're gonna try something different. So I said,
you're right. People at the pump probably thought I was nuts. Talking to
myself like this, and I was like, yeah, right, nuts,
that's right. You're gonna look, you're gonna you're gonna change. You gotta
change, you know, And you'll have those moments in your life where you'll
want to just half ash it or do stuff the way you've always done it.
But sometimes you gotta call yourself out like nope, if you want a
different life, if you want to change, it starts right now. So
I said, all right, So I drove it on over because my mom
was in South Haven at the hospital or not the hospital, at the hospital
place with my grandfather. So I went over there and it gave her her
license back and say, hey, here's this. I forgot to leave it
on the table. And then I saw my grandpa one more time and I
showed them my ninety day coin. It was like, look, Grandpa,
I got the ninety day coin last night or whatever, and I'm going up
to Boyne City now to do sober living. I love you. And he
was like like, make some really crazy noises, and so I think that
I love you, and I'm really scared because he looked like it. And
I got to see that though one more time and tell them that I loved
one more time than I jumped in the car and hit the road. An
hour and a half later, my mom texted and said Grandpa's gone. I
was like, whoa, it's wild man, Like I would have been kicking
myself to know that I could have had one more chance just to look at
him as say I love you one more time. And my grandpa and I
we didn't have the closest relationship. He was a hard working, that type
generation, you know, type of guy, and I do miss him,
you know, I do miss seeing him, but we weren't that close.
But still it was something that would really haunt me if I didn't have that
chance, or had that chance and let it slip on by, you know.
But that was and that's kind of a crazy story to start my recovery
journey, like out of treatment and I had a chance to do the wrong
thing and I didn't, and all these things had to set up. I
had the phone had to suck otherwise I wasn't gonna give my mom's ID,
you know, Like it was just nuts, man. And when you look
at things like that, even being told you're not taking it serious in treatment,
that had to happen exactly how it did. So it's pretty nuts when
you can go back to those little moments in life and realize, like that's
that's kind of a big thing. Yeah, my story, My grandfather passed
about a year before I got sober, just over a year a year in
a couple of months. And he was more of a dad to me than
my dad was. We're like a loving parent, you know, but he
was the hot rider, construction tough you know, worker and like you said,
the hard worker. And he never got to see me pull myself out
of the addiction. He only got to see like the worst of it.
But he did say before he passed, we got to we knew he was
going to go in a couple of days, and so we all the whole
family got together when we're talking and we were just like going over memories and
stuff. It was really neat, and he got to kind of talk to
each of us and say what he wanted to say to us, and and
he just told he told me. And I don't know why he would have
said this, because I was such a failure at that point, but he
said that he was proud of me. He goes, I don't agree with
everything you've done, but I know that I haven't lived your life and know
how difficult it is to be you. And I was just like it didn't
make any sense then, but it hits me hard now because within a year
or just over a year after that, like, I turned my life completely
around, and I do have those moments where I was like, I wish
I could choke, So Grandpa, what it's like now? So because I
know he'd be proud, because if he told me that he was proud of
me, then what would he say? Now? You know? Right?
So that's what you can expect on recovery Dads. This podcast took to turnpect
to Justin's mom. She listened to this podcast. I bet she hates it.
If she does, she will know. She'll think you're both as she
likes me though, yeah, she don't like match. Damn she likes me.
When you're talking to her and I make fun of you, she'll be
like, that's funny. Ship Wow, yep, good stuff. But we
got the plants water today. Marnie did them. Okay, I did him
on Monday, so a little bit of premature watering, but it's fine.
Susan's cage yesterday and yesterday. Nice guy asked me to do it. The
other day when I was really busy. Nice it was like, yeah,
I'll get to it, and then came up with excuses problems by jay Z.
I had to ask him. I said, I if I told you
that I wanted you to do something, and he said yeah, sure.
But then your boss says, hey, why don't you start working on this.
What are you going to do? It takes time minutes to cleaner cage,
and the boss would appreciate a clean cage in the office. I learned
that lesson. He's yelled at us before for not cleaning our cage. I
got yelled at more times for not doing what he said right now. So
this pos guy sounds like a dank man. The thing is is when I
do what he says when he says to do it, he's not a dick.
Interesting, but buddy has ten five dollars making a flyer take notes on
that. Oh speaking of flyers, Yeah, this mention this real quick before
we jump off. Uh, it's pretty much a lock. I think they
just need money and we got that. So I mean not like we got
that money's but we got enough for the event. Yeah, I could we
get paid to like throw events and stuff. It's pretty fun. So we're
going to do a I'm assuming it's the Twilight Asylum. It's called the Asylum
Twilight Tour at the Commons in Traverse City, which is the old the Old
Please would it cut bold the people were dead when they died and stuff.
I don't know. Sometime soon details to come, yes, but we're gonna
have that and hopefully before April, and they'll be like a contest where people
can sign up to recovery dot com limited thoughts. Yeah, we can sign
up contest and signing up, I asked her. Yeah, Kate, Kate,
asked Kate in an email. I said, you, Kate, sounds
good. How many people can we have and can we take pictures and videos
and stuff? All the other tours like take video, but I don't know
if some of them move long faster. They don't want people like just doing
stupid stuff. Yeah, but at least if we could you know, that
whole like stuff. And I was talking about earlier about the guy who wants
to leave treatment because you know, he didn't get talked to who's cold?
You know, I want that kind of treatment. I was like, well,
they can't take pictures, but I sure the hell can Winfield. So
so I mentioned that last night to take pictures no to our new employee that
it's required to do events. Re hired it to seventeen. And she's not
thrilled about this as No, She's like, I ain't going to that,
said, I ain't going to that, and she was upset with how justin
so I said, okay, you can be a next employee, then said
it a little bit differently. But the event itself is gonna be awesome.
It is the Asylum Twilight Tour, and there's going to be a part of
it where we get to go down into the world. They call them the
steam tunnels tunnel that's where they took patients back and forth. We're gonna hear
voices and something like that. I've been in some of these buildings back in
the day. Don't put that there. Steam is not going to clean that
stank off. We're gonna be going into one of the unrenovated I think it's
the men's treatment wards that they're gonna take us through half of its outside.
So it's gonna be really fun. And yeah, it's gonna be It's gonna
be a great time. Yeah, it'll be fun. Yeah. The flyer
that was made for it looks fly damn. Yeah that last year justin shaking
and said no, like he doesn't approve. He just doesn't like that.
I listened to you and not him. So well, it'll be fun.
Details coming soon, So if you're in the Tramps City area or maybe like
you know what, I'll drive up for that. Hey, if you're gonna
drive up for it, sign up. Oh yeah, I don't have to
win you. My aunt she was telling me that they were watching extreme I
don't don't even know what it's called expectition or expedition. Anyway, they did
some like ghost hunting on macl Island. It's very weak, and then they
brought in the Ghost Brothers. Those guys are funny. That was pretty interesting.
I watched some one with Jack Osborne with those guys. That was great.
Like the ghosts were like Jamal run I was like, wait this time.
I never thought a ghosts would say like clearly, like there must be
a haunting going on, because it's more normally it's like help me or get
out, you know, a stupid shiit like that. It's always the same
thing. It's like, if you're a name pooped himself, wouldn't you like
say like better stuff than get out or help me like like that? Yeah,
like like what if? Like it's like a deal with the devil,
who's like, all right, you get two words, you got two words
and four seconds go help me? Okay, Like I mean that would suck.
I mean, like this game is rigged. Being dead sucks anywhere.
Being dead. He's using the spirit box, Come on, brother break Oh
yeah, you know I like them And they said that, uh, they're
having people in recovery there is going to be kind of fun because a lot
of the history was trying to figure out treatment for people with addictions and other
mental health struggles back then, and it was a lot different than this now.
So they're actually going to pull out some more of the historical parts of
that specifically for us, so it's going to be informational too, So it'll
be fun. I really hope we can film the whole that'd be cool if
you can film the whole thing. Yeah, and then we got to do
one shot of the batteries. I want to want to do fun promotional there.
I think it'd be cool and I think you'd enjoy it. So,
like the week before or something like that, or may even before that,
go out there on the site and start, yeah, earn some VIDs.
I think it'd be fun. Yeah, So what if? What if I
clearly put in a fake ghost in the video and it's so obvious that like
nobody would ever pass it up. But then we try passing off as a
real ghost. We just have Justin walking by a sheet. That was a
ghost. That's a ghost, bro. We gonna do it with the bear
mask underneath it, like Justin was not here, that was a ghost.
Anyway. All right, y'all, Thanks, have a great weekend. Appreciate
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