My Billy Cunning in the Great America. We'll welcome this glorious Tuesday afternoon,
the tries day. We're gonna have weather reports later on. Allegedly Burrell is
making an appearance, not the editor of the Inquiry, but the hurricane sometime
later tonight or tomorrow going to be worse west of Cincinnati, but we're going
to get one to two inches of rain, according to Steve Riley. We'll
see what happens with that. Reds Baseball kicks off about six oh five tonight.
I think the game will be played. We'll see Red's took care of
a high school team last night. Maybe they can beat the high school team
again tonight, known as the Colorado Rockies. We'll see what happens. But
more importantly later today at six pm. And we have the great Brian Tom
coming up later on of Crossroads. One of the founders of Crossroads is a
big memorial service six o'clock tonight at the Crossroads, Florence, and which Brian
Tom will be part of. He's going to talk about in about an hour
or so. But until then, joining you and I now is Rob Sanders,
the Kent County Prosecutor, the Commonwealth Attorney and Rob. These are difficult
times in Kenton County and Boone County with this event took place. There were
four people killed early Saturday morning. Police say that Chase Garvey walked into a
twenty first birthday party uninvited with a gun open fire. Four were murdered.
All of them had special lives to live. Melissa Parrott forty four years old,
the mother of one of the wounded. Teenagers Hayden Ribicki twenty years old,
Shane Miller twenty years old, Delaney Urray nineteen years old. And there's
been some media discussion, among others, that this particular cowardly murderer, Chase
Garvey, had at least three previous contacts with law enforcement involving sexual misconduct that
did not result in serious time in prison. In fact, Channel five reported
that if he'd been in jail, of course, for five years for one
of the so called rapes or sexual assaults that had happened, he would not
be available to kill these people. Joan and you and I now is a
stand up guy, Rob Sanders at Kenton County and Rob, can we go
over a little bit of the history of Chase Garvey and why he wasn't locked
up for the previous sexual assaults. We can, Willie, and you're right,
this is a very sad time for much of northern Kentucky. I know
the victims involved in this case were well known throughout northern Kentucky. I even
have some friends in common. I didn't know any of the victims personally,
but I know a lot of people that did know them. There are a
lot of people hurting, a lot of people mourning. But I think it's
a good time to discuss the facts about Chase Garvey and his previous criminal history
because certainly many of the news outlets, in fact, specifically Channel five,
is not too concerned about being accurate with their reporting or the facts that they
are reporting, and they have greatly overblown his criminal history. However, he
did have a prior case in Kenton County, a very difficult case from a
few years ago. That is what's been widely referred to in the reporting,
but has not been accurately reported what that case was. That case dealt with
Chase Garvey engaging in sexual acts with an underage girl when he was just a
few weeks past his eighteen birthday. In fact, he met this young lady
online when he was still a minor, and if his actions had taken place
just a couple of weeks earlier, it wouldn't have been a adult crime at
all. This would have been something that was handled in juvenile court. Nobody
would have ever been the wiser about. Nobody would have ever been able to
find that there was any criminal history at all. Could have been in juvenile
court. Nevertheless, mister Garvey was originally arrested on two charges, rape first
degree and sodomy's second degree. That rape first degree charge never should have existed
in the first place. The facts of the case did not support it.
I've reviewed the statement that the victim gave to investigators, which supported a rape
second degree charge and is reflected by the sodomy second degree charge. I think
that would have been appropriate. It doesn't make any sense at all to have
a rape first degree and a sodomy second degree. The second degree is indicative
of it being a statutory rape or sodomy offense as opposed to a forcible offense,
and the correct charge would have been second degree in the first place.
Now, ultimately, I don't want to go into the details of the case
too specifically, because it would reveal details about our victim in this case that
is still a juvenile, still a child, just a teenager, and not
something that I want to discuss in the news media or publicly at all.
It's just not fair to her, and I hope that anybody out there that
has kids, if you can just for a second try and imagine the horrible
situation it would be to be the parent of a child victim, and that
it was a case where that child victim's best interest would not be served by
putting that child through a public jury trial. That's what we were dealing with
in this case. So I know everybody out there wants to be able to
consume every last little detail about every last case in the world, especially one
that's being is drawing as much public attention as this one. But it's just
not fair to that little girl to have her case drug out into the public
spotlight. Needless to say, the decision was made by the prosecutor assigned to
the case, in consultation with the child's mother, that a plea agreement was
in the best interest to resolve that case short of a jury trial. Given
the fact that mister Garvey at the time of the offense was only a couple
weeks past his eighteenth birthday. The case was resolved as an unlawful transaction with
a minor second degree, which is still a felony offense. Still should have
prohibited him from ever owning or possessing a firearm of any kind again for the
rest of his life. Obviously he did not follow that law. But in
my mind, Willie, the bigger question right now now is how did this
criminal, How did this convicted fella get his hands on a gun to go
commit these despicable, horrible murders. That question that I really want the answer
to is who is the person that either purchased this gun for the criminal or
who was the person that sold a gun to this criminal? And did they
know he was a felon at the time that they did, because that those
circumstances would both be serious felony potentially federal offenses. Right, and so about
a sharper point the original rape. The thirteen year old girl's mother and family
did not want to proceed on the rape case, but they were okay with
a lesser charge of unlawful transaction and the family wanted The family agreed with your
decision to reduce it. Is that correct? That's accurate, Willie. It
wasn't a case that I handled personally, but personally, the prosecutor that handled
the case works for me, and I accept responsibility for or anything that anybody
that works for me does. Ultimately, my name's on the door, so
the buck stops with me. But I've reviewed the case extensively. I understand
the decision that was made, and in retrospect, you know, it's impossible
to say I agree with the decision because I wouldn't like to have seen this
fellow be in prison and hopefully be in a place where he was unavailable to
commit these crimes. But that's with twenty twenty hindsight. Nobody in their right
mind ever would have pegged this guy for a mass murder several years ago when
this case has happened. And with statutory rap ersodomy, that's far different punishment
available than a forceful rapeer sodom and case. In fact, it cuts the
potential punishment in half. And at least until July fifteenth of this year,
Willie, they're still classified as non violent offenses under Kentucky law. Now,
fortunately that's something we got changed in the last legislative session, and as of
July fifteenth, statutory rape will be considered a violent offense inuntil then. It's
not so that would have meant on a minimum sentence that he would have received.
Even if he had been convicted of the statutory rape offense, he could
have been out in one year maximum sentence, which is very unlikely an eighteen
year old was no adult criminal history would receive. But even on a maximum
sentence, he could have been out in two years. So the notion that
any conviction would have or prison sentence would have meant that he was unavailable to
commit these crimes. It's just not accurate. That's not how Kentucky law works,
and especially when it comes to non violent offenses, the number assigned to
their sentence is usually far greater than the number that they actually reserve. Now,
there was also a media reporting of him doing donuts in a Dave and
Buster's parking lot and there was a thirteen year old in the car with him.
He's acting like a clown, a fool that he was arrested or cited
for that, And why wasn't that a violation of the probation he was on
for the unlawful transaction with the thirteen year old. Some of the media so,
well, that was a chance to get Chase Garvey locked up on a
violation. Explain that to the American people. Well, it actually did get
him locked up, Willy. He was violated for that traffic offense. And
you're right, it was donuts in the parking a lot of the David Busters
out in Florence. We had a thirteen year old in the car in the
passenger seat with him at the time, but it was a thirteen year old
boy, not a thirteen year old girl, And there was no indication at
all that there was anything sexual to it. It was just these two beat
idiot teenagers being idiot teenagers and the parking lot of Dave and Busters. And
obviously I'm not excusing it by any stretch of the imagination, but we did
seek to have his probation revoked. But trying to get an eighteen year old
revoked on probation and serve a five year sentence over traffic violations, it is
incredibly unlikely. We sought the revocation. The judge didn't impose it. I'm
not even faulting the judge because I don't think that there is a judge anywhere
and we have hang him high judges, Willie, We don't have deliberal,
lunatic judges that you all deal with in Hamilton County. But even our judges
don't put eighteen year olds in prison for five years over what amounts to traffic
ticket. He got a thirty day jail sentence out of that. I dare
say I've never heard of anybody else having to served thirty days in jail for
doing donuts. Nevertheless, again, given the tragedy that we've been through now
and the horrible pain and suffering these families are going through, we wish we
could turn back the clock and make him serve the whole five years for doing
donuts. But there was no way the judge or anybody else was going to
know that that was the case. So at the time, with what we
had to work with and what we knew, then a thirty day sentence for
donuts and Dave and Buster's parking lot was pretty significant punishment. Now, in
Hamlety County, nothing would have coming out at all much less than thirty days.
And so for those videotapes over there, you can do donuts in the
middle of the intersection and not nothing ticket, nothing happens. What do you
say to those left behind, to those still with gunshot wounds? When I
talk to Melissa Powers or Mike Moser other county prosecutors, every criminal case,
every violation doesn't walk into your office and put on your desk here's the case.
What do you think do you have authority with line prosecutors making daily decisions
that you take responsibility for. But at no point did a line prosecutor walk
into your office and say, we got this eighteen year old. It just
turn eighteen, and the thirteen year old's mother and family doesn't want to prosecute.
What do you think, Rob, Is it fair to say that when
you're in a large prosecutor's office you have dozens and dozens dozens of employees who
simply proceed under your authority because they know what they think what you would do
if you knew about the case. But you don't know one hundred percent about
every case all the time in Kent County. Correct, No, that's correct.
We have about two thousand cases here. We have another full time prosecutors
in addition bus So, now that's probably one of the biggest descriptions I have
from doing my own work handle in my own case being interrupted about prosecutors that
my opinion on their cases, but certainly don't get every decision they make right
across my basketball micro management that way. And again I'm not this prosecutor.
I understand why he made the decision he did with what he had to work
with at the time. It was not our optimal outcome, but with what
he had to work with, it was an understandable outcome, especially given the
fact that we had parents at the victim urging him to find a resolution that
did not involve their child testifying in an open public courtroom, all right,
Plus there were other issues of the case that may make it difficult to prosecute.
With two thousand felonies, ten line prosecutors, that's about two hundred per
prosecutor. That's about four or five every week. And I understand exactly what
you're saying. As as the law enforcement official in Kenton County. Tonight,
there's a big event at Crossroads at six pm and Florence kind of remember this.
What would you say to the families of those left behind and those that
are wounded in the hospital that your heart goes out to them, But maybe
there's more of an understanding about criminal justice. This was a failure. If
you could look back twenty twenty and look back two or three or four years,
it'd be easy to be the prosecutor. Okay, Chase Garvey, that
guy right there is going to be a mass murderer. And there was no
connection between the sex offenses and the mass murder. And the twain don't meet.
But what comment would you make to them? Well, this is every
prosecutor's worst nightmare in terms of what happens to somebody that has I guess gets
cut a brake for lack of a better term, Willie. And we don't
want anybody to ever be a victim of crime, much less a horrible,
tragic crime like the ones that so many families suffered through in Florence last weekend.
Our thoughts and prayers go to them for healing as much as human way
possible under the circumstances. We wish that we could turn back the clock,
or we wish that we had had a crystal ball let us see into the
future. And unfortunately, with an amount of crime we have, even in
a safe community like Kenton County and Northern Kentucky, events like this if you
do this job long enough, are going to happen despite the best efforts.
And we're very sorry that this outcome is what it is. That it's horrible
and it's tragic, and it's sad, and our hearts go out to them
and we wish we could do more to make it better, but this was
unfortunately a reality given the limitations of the criminal justice system and the complications that
we deal with on a regular basis and job victim sex cases. Thank you,
and I know you and the ATF for in touch with each other.
You're going to track down to the ends of the earth the person or entity
that could be criminally responsible for giving Chase Garvey the pistol that calls this mayhem
and these horrible acts in Florence. And once again, Rob Sanders, I
know it's difficult. We've spoken off the air. This is hurting your heart.
It's sad, but you're a stand up guy. You said what you
had to say and I hope the American people understand what happened. Rob Sanders,
thank you very much. Thanks for having me. Willie. All right,
Rob, thank you, Let's continue with more your comments five one,
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you know, for many, many years I've ran in and raved about
lack of criminal justice for individuals who commit crimes, and later on they're released
earlier or whatever and not convicted at all, and they go on comming even
worse than terrible crimes. I don't think this is one of those circumstances.
When I read the record of Chase Garvey twenty one and understand something about the
case, most of which is public, some of which is not, I
can't conceive of Rob Sanders, or the Boone County prosecutor for that matter,
doing a lot things differently than what was happening. If you can go back
in time and look backwards and say, you know what, this guy,
Chase Garvey, when he was eighteen years old, committed a rape on a
thirteen year old. That's among the worst crimes in the world, next to
murder itself, because you murder the life of that thirteen year old. When
you hear from Rob Sanders At the family did not want to pursue the matter
for reasons known to the family and known to the girl, most of which
is not in the public domain. You're left for a situation where if the
victim, maybe a thirteen year old, can't make a decision to proceed,
but certainly her mother, grandmother, etc. Can make the decision whether or
not what's in the best interest of the child, between a rock and a
hard place. I have a text there from James Bogan, one of the
great criminal offense attorneys, often on with you and I. He says to
me, wanting to keep miners from being traumatized by testifying is one of our
biggest points if plee bargain leverage in those sex cases. So that means if
you have a victim that does not want to be put through the rigors of
a cross examination and all the rest corp proceeding that can take six months to
a year, And if a thirteen year old who doesn't have independent judgment,
unless one wants to transgender, that's different. But in this thirteen year old
did not want to proceed. The family, the mother did not want to
proceed. The prosecutor's office is left between a rock and a hard place.
Do you think Rob Sanders wants to prosecute an eighteen year old raping a thirteen
Absolutely? Rob Sanders lives for those moments. I think you read between the
lines that never got through his desk anyway, because you can't have two thousand
decisions made every day in Hamlety County. It's five thousand decisions. You have
line prosecutors who have great experience that reflects the value of the prosecutor to simply
proceed, right, you proceed, And I think if you read between the
lines in real time, this case never hit Rob Sanders's desk because it was
one of two thousand cases, two thousand felonies, that is ten line prosecutors
deal with all the time, and it's their judgment. For example, I
was a prosecutor, and I've been in the Attorney General's office and the civil
not the criminal division, but I practice criminal law still do a little bit
today. And if the victim does not want to proceed, for good reasons.
And the good reasons include not wanting to make not wanting to go to
court, not wanting to make her name more public, which is not public,
nor will it become public. There may be reasons within the family as
to why they do not want to proceed, and because the hip other violations.
If somebody would make that public, Rob Sanders and the line prosecutors and
the news media is not going to make her name public. And even if
they know the reasons involving not proceeding, you can't make that public either,
because the law is set up to protect thirteen year olds to put your arm
around him and say we're going to help you matriculate to the adult world.
So the family, the mother having been with her child for thirteen years,
knew exactly what she wanted to do, and the entire family knew what they
wanted to do, which was not testify. So to defend the line prosecutor
in Kenton County, if you have a victim that says I'm not proceeding,
and by the way, if you're an adult and you say that, if
you're eighteen, twenty eight, thirty eight years old and you don't want to
proceed, you can put that victim before a grand jury under oath. Then
the victim can say to a grand jury what they want to do, and
that's the end of it, unless it's a matter of great public interest where
you can down the road force the adult victim to actually be incarcerated as the
victim under contempt of court, because this matter would be a great public interest
that you can't say no. But when you deal with a thirteen year old
victim, you can't put the thirteen year old before a grand jury. If
the mother and the thirteen year old says no, you can't put her before
the grand jury and take her down to a courtroom to have the judge order
her to testify. And then if that victim doesn't testify, that's contempt to
court. Put her in jail. Nobody's going to put a thirteen year old
in jail, right, Not going to happen. So the line prosecutor headque
case where Chase Garvey. It was two weeks past his eighteenth birthday, he's
an adult, and the thirteen year old refused to testify because her mother and
grandparents said no, this matters over and so they wanted a resolution which involved
a felony, and to me, that's a pretty good outcome when you have
a felony, when you have a victim that won't testify. Many times defense
lawyers may want to press the case a little bit and say, well,
we're not going to accept the plea to unlawful transaction. But that's a risk
in doing that because once you say no, and the case preceedes the court
and the victim won't testify, maybe the victim might change her mind and will
testify. Then you're screwed, blue tattooed, and barbecue. So the defense
lawyer was going to take the plea to unlawful transaction, which is a felony
for an eighteen year old, and the child, the so called victim in
this case, and she was a victim, goes on with her life.
And I wish that thirteen year old well, whatever it might be. And
at no point to this case ever hit the desk of Rob Sanders to make
a decision. But as he said at least twice in my interview, I
take full responsibility for everything that happens in this office. My name is on
the door. When one of my guys or women, as the line prosecutors,
make a decision, I stand behind my prosecutor unless it's something outlandish and
concerning all the circumstances. Nobody could look forward a couple of years and say,
you know, Chase Garvey, having had unlawful transactions with a thirteen year
old, is going to become a mass murderer if he could look back in
time and see that. I don't know what he would have done with a
victim that refuse to testify. I don't know. But as Rob Sanders ended
up, he's a man's man and a great prosecutor, and he said,
my heart breaks and I'm sorry for what happened, and he takes full responsibility
for every decision in that office. And as far as a donut case,
when it was reported there was a thirteen year old in the car, I
assume the thirteen year old was a female, the thirteen year old was a
male, and there was no indication of some sex that going on between Chase
Garvey and the thirteen year old. He was doing donuts in a parking lot.
And from that, Rob Sanders said, we wanted to violate his probation
and send him to state prison, but the judge said no. That essentially
a traffic offense. I'm not going to send somebody to Kentucky State Prison for
five years on a traffic violation. But he did lock him up for more
than a month on a traffic case in lieu of violating his probation. He
was never paroled. Parol comes through the Kentucky State Parl. This was a
probation, which is through the judge, and Rob Sanders says, I know
who the judge is. But Rob Sanders said, look, I'm not going
to criticize the judge either because when she made that decision, it was because
you had a relatively young man on law for transaction doing donuts, which can
be dangerous. We don't like that. It could have spun out of control
and killed somebody or cause serious property damage. But the judge gave more than
thirty days in jail on a traffic case, which is a little bit harsh
considering all the crime taking place. But I want to thank Rob for coming
on and filling in the blanks and a terrible case. And they're looking for
the person and the ATF is actively involved in this case with several agents along
with Kent County Prosecutor and US Attorney for the Northern District of Kentucky. They're
all on this case to find out who gave Chase Garvey or purchase allowed to
be that gun. And may God have mercy on the soul of the person
that did it, because they're going to track you down and they're going to
make sure you go to prison for a long time. Part of the risk
of dealing with the criminal element is that when you sell, sell your vehicle,
sell your firearm to someone, or someone allows one to purchase it,
then they take that firearm illegally, he was not in legal possession of a
gun and kill shoot seven people and kill four. The law will come and
find you. Possibly it was given by a family member and there was no
money involved, but nonetheless that person is responsible for everything that gun does.
So when you illegally or legally you think legally you're selling a gun to somebody
man the man, here's a gun, never do that because you own everything
that gun does. And this is an unspeakable tragedy coming up, and we've
scheduled at one oh five today the great leader of all things wholesome and in
the Crossroads. That's Brian Tome. Brian tom one of the founders of Crossroads.
It's gonna indicate calling in about one oh five to discuss what's going to
happen tonight six o'clock at Florence Crossroads is going to be an outpouring of love
for the family, for those who have died, those who have suffered.
The three that are wounded to be released, they're going to, I guess
recover their full health. And Melissa Parrott, the forty four year old mother
of her daughter that was shot through her chest and lived and it's going to
be released the next few days. Rest right now in the hands and arms
of God Almighty. To have a mother throw her body over her child to
save that child's life is something that child and that family's never going to forget.
The dead include Hayden Ribicki, who's twenty years old, going to a
twenty first birthday party for a friend of course mom, Melissa Parrott forty four
years old, Shane Miller got photos of Shane Miller here, what a great
kid had a great future in front of him, twenty years old. And
Delaney Airy nineteen years old. And there's three that are win that will survive
and if prosecutors and cops could look into a crystal ball backwards and forwards and
determine what some of these criminal thugs, these criminal these criminal murderers, these
cowards, what happened in the future. Prosecution would would be very easy.
But Rob Sanders has apologized for decisions made under him by his office. He
owns that. He said, my name's on the door, I am responsible.
So uh, let's continue with more tonight for those interested in our community,
be a crossroads in Florence to hold a memorial service for the four that
were murdered by this coward and the three that are have survived and will carry
the memories of Saturday morning for the rest of their life. And there's not
much else to say, but whatever has to be said, Brian Tom will
say it. So let's continue with more. Also coming up later, we
have the remarks of John Cranleigh at some point, and more about political and
certain other matters and things of that character. So if a line becomes available
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Baseball kicks off about six oh five tonight. They look like All Stars last
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college or a high school team and the Reds should beat up on them and
then the Marlins and see what happens the All Star break, relax a little
bit, and then get back at it against the Washington Nationals. This is
a time to make some hay because the sun is shining. We have weather
reports throughout the afternoon and evening. Allegedly Hurricane Burrow is going to make an
appearance in the Tri State, mainly overnight, but starting this afternoon, maybe
one to two inches or rain for who's your friends thirty to fifty miles west,
like Connersville and Nana. I love the folks in Connersville. It's going
to be a little worse situation, maybe four to six inches of rain.
And all their weather reports will be available now and in the future. So
let's continue and never stop. We simply continue. Stay tuned for the comments
of Brian Tom one of the founders of Crossroads, holding their facilities tonight in
Florence open so the Northern Kentucky community and all in the Tri State can pray
for the remains of there's four people murdered, and Chase Garvey right now rest
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Bill Cunningham Show. And Brian, can you tell the American people h I
guess the first question is why does God allow such things like this to occur?
Well, it goes back to recognizing that we all want free will,
so we don't want to be a robot with God control every decision we make,
and so that means he doesn't control everybody's decision, which means some people
can make really, really crappy decisions to put the rest of us in pain.
So we just can't expect God to step in and stop everything, or
else you'd be avoiding our free choice. But at the same time, Bill,
he does He does that a lot. We just don't know it and
think about it, you know, because we don't see a tragy. I
think he steps in more than we more we realized, but he doesn't step
in every time. And unfortunately he didn't step in this time, and it's
awful. It's awful. He got four people dead. One of the saddest
and bravest stories I've heard as the mother Melissa Parrott forty four years old.
She came into the yard. It was about two forty five am Saturday morning,
and she saw this cowardly murderer, Chase Garvey, shoot her daughter in
the bullet. Miraculously when through her chest came out the other side and quickly
Mom jumped on top of the body of her daughter to save her life,
and she took the shots from Chase Garvey. He then went in and killed
Hayden and Rabicki twenty years old, Shane Miller twenty Delany Ury nineteen years old
at a twenty first birthday party. And I would like to think that the
Melissa Parrot right now is in the arms of God on MANI looking down.
And I like to think that Chase Garvey is boiling in hell looking up and
at some point there must be justice. But you're a parent, can you
imagine the courage which I think almost any parent would do to throw your body
on top of your bleeding child. Well, we think that any parent would.
I like to think that I would, but you wouldn't know until it
comes crunch time and you know that mom man, she was on her game.
She's got a special spirit inside of her that would and able to be
that loving and that's sacrificial. What is there about church? I would think
tonight in Florence there will be lots of people there who rarely come to church,
and they come for special reasons. One of my favorite movies of the
sixties and seventies was Close Encounters of the Third Kind, in which all of
a sudden, people went to church. When there's a murder, a tragedy,
people go to church. When you call upon the Almighty to bless the
proceedings through occurring, you go to church, or go to synagogue, go
to mosque, whatever it might be. And there's no atheists in foxholes and
near death. There's very few people near death that maintain an atheistic or an
agnostic viewpoint. If you have time. What is there about crossroads in church
that people want to come together, but seemingly only for tragic times or good
times like a wedding. Well, it's part of our nature, Bill is
that we are not physical beings who have spiritual interests. We're actually spiritual being
who have physical properties. And so yeah, there's a lot of people who
are gonna be or there's some people are gonna be in a foxhole and they're
gonna stay an atheist. I mean, that does happen. But the vast,
vast, vast majority of us do have a desire for a connection to
something that's transcendent, which I believe that's kind of why we're so fascinated by
UFOs and Bigfoot and all that stuff, because because we know there's something beyond
what we understand. And so in a time of crunch time, what are
we gonna reach towards. You're gonna you're gonna reach for your meds, why
that might help you for a little bit. You're gonna reach to you know,
your latest social media feed that's bolstering your worldview as probably not going to
really make you feel better. I mean, God, God is the one
who has a unique job description in these moments to meet us in our time
of need. And that's why we keep doing it. Now, it's a
separate question as to why we don't do it all the time. I mean,
why don't we go to doctor for annual checkups? You know, we
just rather go in our arms cut off. A lot of us just don't
take care of our spiritual life. We don't, we don't have the basic
disciplines. A lot of us know the basic disciplines of eating okay and doing
the right thing physically, but very very few of us bill understand that we
are spiritual beings and we have to take care of our walk with God and
our relationship with them. I mean, are going to do things that we
don't always do, like go to church, even if you have another option.
You know one thing that happens today. We live here, We are
in July of twenty twenty four. I often say Brian Tom, I see
nothing but chaos. Maybe there was always this level of chaos and confusion,
and because of mass means of communication. I didn't know about it, but
I looked yesterday. There's a children's hospital in Kiev, Ukraine, in which
little children are suffering with cancer and brain diseases and injuries at one time,
and the Russian sends a cruise missile to destroy a children's hospital in Kiev.
I assume because the Ukrainians sent a cruise missile to destroy a depot fifty miles
in rush to blow up where they kept all their missiles and armaments. This
is Putin's way of getting back. I look locally at what's happening in Cincinnati.
The city of Cincinnati, not Florence, not Green Township, is going
to have five hundred people shot this year, and about one hundred are going
to be dead. I look in Chicago, Illinois, and according to the
mayor, Brandon Johnson, there was one hundred and twelve people shot over the
Fourth of July weekend. I open up newspapers, read websites that young girls
and young boys between fifteen and thirty are disconnected, dropping out, don't have
the life that you and I led when we were in our twenties. How
about this factoy, Between the age of eighteen and thirty five, the majority
of girls slash women will not be married or have babies. Between the age
of eighteen and thirty five, they come out of come out of college in
high school, ready to face the world. They're on social media. They
spend forty five hours of day just looking at their phone, never interacting with
others. The family life is destroyed. When I go to a Catholic Mass,
I see families everywhere. I join you acrossroads. Once in Oakley,
I saw families everywhere. That is the exception, not the rule, and
that would have doctor Carrol Leeberman and others. Men and women are just lost
in the world today, untethered to reality, and we're going down the crapper
everywhere. I look. We have a presidential election right now. If Trump
wins, there would be total chaos. The cities might burn, the college
campuses erupt, lawsuits filed, more indictments. And if Joe Biden wins,
the other half of the country or a Trump supporter say here we go again.
He's not my president. The election was tolen Kamala Harris going to be
the president. That's awful, It's terrible. We used to have a system,
Brian tom where after the election was held, both sides would take off
their red suits, their blue suits. Let's work for the country. None
of that happens anymore. And I look at city council, I look at
the government. I'd look at the We have enlistments down by twenty thres a
month. Out of the military. You can't hire cops anymore because they're shot
and fired out on a regular basis. Do you sense we should live in
the best of times, but so many are taking drugs, on drugs,
marijuana, legal drinking, alcohol, acting up social media, no relationships between
the other sex, other genders, abortion on demand. One point one million
abortions are happening this year, which is much more than twenty eighteen or twenty
nineteen. Am I accurately describing the world that you know? I think you,
I think you are Bill, and I could I could put my own
pet peeves on top of all those as well. No, I think I
think things are not good if you look at how things should be. Yeah,
and we're obviously doing things wrong. A male life expectancy is going down.
Mental illness is on an utter, utter rampage. Your male suicide is
skyrocketing. The way we're living life in the United States, it doesn't work.
It does not work. Now, having said that, if you're a
student of history, which you know, if you know anything about history,
is that we don't learn anything from history rights history, though, I mean,
well, we got a pretty damn good right now relative to the rest
of humanity. My favorite historical fiction is by con Igleton. It's on Genghis
Khan. It's like a four or five part series. I mean that that
guy change the carbon footprint of the entire planet. There's something there's like a
billion people or something like that have his DNA and him because he just raped
everything where he went. They conquered like the whole world. And I'm talking
about rape and pillage, like old school not metaphorical, literal rape and pillage.
It was a horrible thing to be on the earth with that guy wrote
them around. We got a pretty good compared to that. You know,
we're not Jews in nineteen forty. You know we're being gassed, and we're
not honest law abiding people who are Germans in nineteen forty who were going against
their conscience or else they're gonna get gassed and get killed as well. We're
not you know, World War One inside of foxholes with mud up to our
knees, getting diphtheria and dying a horrible brutal death. We can go on
and on and on and on and on. Bill, So yes, I
do not like where our country is socially, but hey, let's let's all
wake up and smell the smell the salt right here. Your life is pretty
freaking good in terms of world history. You break your arm, you can
go you get it fixed. You got something wrong with you as bad as
big farms. I got a drug is probably gonna help you out. You
can't get it wrong with your wife anymore. Hey, we got an injection
for that. I mean, we got a lot of good things going building.
We don't. We don't give enough freedoms too. I want to I
want to ask you two metaphysical questions. Are you prepared? Yes? First,
I have to define metaphysical, so physical physical meta alongside the physical.
Yes, I'm yes, yes, yes. Go Is the United States of
America God's representative on Earth? No? Why No? I often say we
are because of our freedoms. We saved the world several times from the Nazis,
from the Communists who are still fighting there. If it comes to discovering
cures for diseases or ailments, it's America where people come to. People are
swimming, diving, walking, running. In the United States of America,
we have a vibrant religious community, which is about one third of the country,
the other two not. I don't. What would the world look like?
And if Adolf Hitler got the atom bomb before we did, what would
the world look like? If Genghis Khan was alive today. What would the
world look like if Shishao Ping and Kim John Un and Vladimir putin the hook
up as they've done, and they march across Europe and kill, kill,
kill. There's only one country to stop it. That's the United States of
America. That's what I've said before. America in Israel are God's representative on
Earth. Why am I wrong? Okay? Well, first of all,
all the points of agreement with you. Yeah, if if America isn't around
on the planet the last several decades, there's a lot of horrible things that
would happen or would still be going on. We we've stuck our finger in
the dyke, and you you named a lot of those things. But I
also think that we can't ignore that our country's also done some really, you
know, some really horrible things. We've kidnapped people, shipped them moad from
the other continent. We've you know, we don't even have the guts to
kill anybody face to face them. We've done drone strikes and wiped out with
a bunch of bunch of civilians, and we got our black marks of the
country. But you know, I'm with you holistically, I think America has
a lot to be proud of in terms of our role in world history over
the last one hundred or so years. But but your question is, are
we God's represent representative. God doesn't need a country to represent them, his
representative of Jesus. It's not a country. And if we were His representative,
then we'd be infallible. We're not. We're not in fallible. And
I would say the same thing about Jews. I'm a big jew guy.
I'm not Jewish too. I am pro, I am pro Israel, and
man, I'll tell you what. I've been over Israel fifteen times and most
of the most of Americans have no idea what's happening has happened in Israel.
I don't have an idea what's happening over right now. I've been over there
since the most recent horrible stuff it's happening. But Israel has a lot of
blight of civil civil no nos, violent, no nos. So even though
they are historically the DNA of God's people, I don't think that God holds
Israel as being his ultimate standard of a nation. I don't think that's The
Bible is very clear when we talked about this I'm a sausage any way,
you cut me down and become a Bible. So I got to look at
things through my biblical worldview. God is creating a new nation, and it's
a nation called His Church, which exists of Jews who come to no Christ,
Jews who will yet come to Christ, and people who are in a
relationship with Christ who are in the Church. And that includes all ethnicities,
that includes all income, well, it includes all skin colors. And so
I have to not look for America to be the solution of the world's problems.
I got to look to myself and other people I know to say,
hey, let's be the hand of feet of Jesus. Here. Here's the
other question is Melissa. Is Melissa Parrot the brave mother who gave her life
for her daughter in heaven above? And is Chase Garvey the cowardly murderer in
hell? I don't know. Let me tell you why. I don't know.
We get to heaven not based on what we do, but who we
know. Now. Melissa and her family, they were on our roll of
the crossroads. So they've come to crossroads. I don't know where they are
in their relationhip with Christ. I don't know if they've gone to another church
or whatever. I don't know them personally. That's why we're hosting the Night
of Prayer vigil tonight. That's why we're trying to pour into that family,
and why we've why we're paying for repairs to the home and providing meals to
victims, families and first responders all week long. Uh. You know,
But ultimately, where Melissa is isn't isn't a result of her lacked active heroism.
She you go to heaven because of Jesus' active heroism, which is dying
on a cross. You know that That's why you're there. And maybe she's
maybe I don't. I don't know. And as far as the the guy
who, uh, I don't even want to he his name, I can't
remember his name. He's not he's not he's not memorable, he's not noteworthy.
Uh is he going to hell? Uh? Well, if he only
lived for one second and that was his one second life, I guess,
But I don't. I don't know what's going in that guy's mind. The
the minute before he died, I don't know was he was he totally whacked
from mental illness and even nobody's doing. I don't know, the same thing
to him, the same thing to him. Bill he he goes to hell
or goes to heaven or goes to Yeah, he goes to hell or doesn't
go to heaven because of who he doesn't know. And he if he never
to God, if he never chose Jesus, then God says them, great,
you never get Jesus an eternity. And that means you not get nothing.
You'll get none of the good stuff. Because everything on this world that
is good comes from God. Every good and perfect gift comes from the Father
of lights. Love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness,
gentleness, self control, all these things that we all love, they're all
the drippings of God. And so when we say no to God and we
choose to live apart from from hell, because God says, Okay, if
you don't want me here on earth, guess what. You don't get me
in hell either, You'll you're gone. But there's things you get nothing of
me, Nothing, you'll get any of the good stuff that drips off to
you. So is that guy there or not? I don't know. I
don't know. I hope he is. But that's my personal opinion. I'm
a little more revenge filled maybe than you are. That's why you're the minister
and I'm a talk show host. But tonight at six o'clock, Casey Bryant
to the pastor of your facility or shall I say God's facility in Florence,
just doing what it can to let the healing begin and let the anger subside,
let the healing begin. Well, Bill, let me just say this
too, Bill, he is, if he is in heaven, well,
I can guarantee you God had some significant words for him, and he has
had massive, massive regret and remorse. Massive. There's a final judgment.
He's held account He's held to account for that, Bill, So I don't
know where he is ultimately, but it's not for me to say. Brian,
Tom, thank you. Let's do this again at the end of the
year. You're a great American and that brought such good things to so many
people you didn't even know twenty five years ago, and your impact on this
community has been unbelievable. And thanks for coming on that. Thank you,
William, thank you, Brian Well thankful and also crazy, how end of
the year. I used to do these things every other week and now I'm
like once every single month. I have you on every week, but I
know you're busy, but maybe a month or two. I'll give you a
call if you can come on. I appreciate it, all right, William,
Thank you, brother, God bless you continue with more the line becomes
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Chicago. The marriage out at the NASCAR race Brandon Johnson, Yeah, he
was. He was at the NASCAR race in a race suit. He's a
clown, by the way, will he I want to say, on this
date June the tenth, twenty eleven, you mean July July. Yeah,
sorry, don't make a mistake here. Sorry, On this date July tenth,
twenty eleven, the inaugural NASCAR Race Cup Series race was held at Kentucky
Speedway. By the way, it was today's July the ninth, Well tomorrow,
you're completely you got the wrong date, Kyle Busch. No, today's
the day today. Yeah, of course they had the major traffic issues,
and believe me, I was in it, so I never got there,
and fact to this point, I never got there. And now it's done
right, So d U n n they're done. By the way, you
supported that what happened? Give me this synopsis of what happened to the Kentucky
Speedway. NASCAR is a monopoly, and they just left him because they weren't
making too much money. I probably they just they just went to other venues
and other tracks. How about Reyes Hines. What can you tell me about
him? Darn good player? Why isn't the uppair earlier? Get that guy
in there? Well, everybody wasn't hurt, but David Bell, you better
get Hines in there, would you agree or not? Well, he was
in there last night for the first time. Yeah, why was he an
uppair earlier? Because everybody was healthy? Thank god? They got Stuart Fairchild
now out with some kind of spinal injury. What Yeah, you got freedom
out, you got freely out. Ben not doing nothing, but he's still
playing. You gotta play them. Nobody else left's left in Louisville. Nobody.
I don't know how many players have come up. They got ten on
the IR maybe eleven with Marykschild. They had to have that. You know.
They had to put a high speed rail up between here and Louisville for
Reds players. All I know is that the Reds needed some hitters, and
Hines provided fifty seven varieties. Well, what are they going to do?
What are they going to do? At the at the at the at the
trade deadline? They're gonna sell or buy? Tell me what the record is
on July thirtieth, and I'll give you the answer. I don't know.
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sixty five. Fum, glad you brought this up. Today is media day
with the Big Twelve, the Big fourteen, that's correct. How many teams
are in the Big twelve? About eighty? Why don't they call it the
Big eighteen? I don't know, Well, it's the Big twelve. The
Big ten is like what fourteen? Now? They just want to stick with
the name. They if they change the name of Big ten, the world
will come to an end. I think it's like eighteen. Well whatever,
whatever, how come the Big They got a big display the Legion Stadium in
Las Vegas, Las Vegas. They got the show girls there. They got
the signs says welcome to Las Vegas. What about done Olivia Dunns though she's
not there. They got all these displays on the field, They got this,
They got that the commissioner's talking. They got a locker for each team
and the Big whatever it is now eighteen twenty. Whatever the bear Cats are
in the media day, bear Cats in the big bear Cats are right next
to uh, bring them Young and somebody else. That's Michael Jackson's favorite universe.
And up above on the lockers, they got the helmets, helmets,
they got the jersey hanging in the locker, got the coaches to play and
like with you at the the show girl, it just said, well you
got show you do. And they got the name plate above each school name
on the locker, So U see he's finally in the big time Bengo.
On the name plate it says University of Cincinnati. Well what somebody, somebody
in the Big twelve don't know how to spell? What? C I n
C I n A tt I outrageous. If I was mister Christopher, I
would leave that conference immediately. How are we looking? How do you do
that? How do you do that? You mean John Cunningham whatever him too,
that's my brother John Cunningham. Well, and so they misspelled. Since
this is a right coming out party for the Barricundy, right, you know
you're welcoming into new teams that they picked up and this and that you see
C I N C I n A T T I. I'm talking to John
Cunningham right now. I think Moe is very upset. So is Tony Pike.
See Pike thinks it's big. Well, guess what if you call tell
the name wrong? How about deer Park de ea R deer Park? Thank
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Com. Give me some sports all these serious issue segment. We need your
fivolity and your stupidity. Reese Heines homer to doubled in his major league debut
and also made a good catch last night during the game. Andrew Abbott strong
seven innings, three hit ball. Somebody finally back to pitcher with some offense
last night and the six nothing wins and it took a minor leaguer to do
it. All star shortstop led La Cruz RBI doubles scored twice, stole two
bases in the first inning, giving him forty five this season, passing Billy
Hamilton from Boston Red's history before the All Star Break, whereas Billy Hamilton,
Now, no idea. I think the Washington Nationals. Is that where he
is? I don't know. Abbott's nine and six is four straight win.
Tonight Nick Lodolo comes off the I l with that finger blister? Right here?
Is he? That's the middle finger? Say, oh, I think
it's the index one. I'm sorry, well, don't do that to me.
Let's see six' ten Sports Talk, Arnell Carriers, Inside Pitch,
Kelsey Chevrolet Extra Inning Show after the game. Now the twenty twenty four All
Star Game, will he is a week from tonight Arlington, Texas. We'll
have that action right here on seven hundred WLW. Billy Hamilton is a Mexican
now playing in the Mexican League Mercy. I can't say it. I don't
know where he's playing, but he's that day. May he go? Let's
see it. Wimbledon top seeded Yannick Center out in the order finals today,
beat losing the Daniel Medvedev in five sets. Medvedev, he's a sheriff.
He's a former champion at the Cincinnati Open, and he you know, you
know, Hines is only twenty three years old. If that kid keeps hitting
like that, would you keep him in the lineup or run? Benson probably
going to know, well, I mean he's playing. He better play tonight.
Don't tell me in center because everybody else is hurt. How about why
they got that guy? That's why they got that the late night trade with
that dude from the Giants. That the outfield's a mess. They don't have
enough players. I'd play Hines, Well they are? Are they going to
play night with Rell? Be there? Hines and probably guys Slater. They
got the guy Slater from the Giants late last night or the night before playing
to I don't know if he's here, how to get here first? How
exciting is watching Dela Cruz play baseball? I mean just running out on the
field, He's exciting. You know. I had ninety five steals for Burnette
Pontiac, set an all time record in the Summer League. I think I
could not run as fast as Dela Cruz. You know, I think last
night I was trying to I was trying to Reese. Get Reese count his
steps between second and third. It's three steps. It's like it's like like
seven or eight and that's it, and that and that, and then he
tried to score on that double steal and got thrown out just barely, right,
But I mean exciting, It's it's unreal. How about Joe Burrow now
is becoming a pianist. Well, that's a good thing. I guess I'm
talking about urology. I'm talking about a pianist. You know what a pianist
is. Yeah, like Beethoven, Mozart, people like that. He's going
to be a Charlie Rich remember him model? What about Floyd Kramer? Remember
him with last date? No Billy Joel, Elton John and Joe Burrow.
He played the piano. He's going to be a pianist. Okay, Well,
I guess it helps his runway model and a piana. He's a fashion
ete. I went over to Paris, he's in a in a you know,
you do the same thing. Absolutely, thank you, Because I've been
offered a job as a runway model, right and I've turned it down.
You would you would go over to Parallel with the first lady. Somebody would
ask you, hey, William, get up, the great American is here.
Put him in the Vogue catwalk, right, get me on the catwalk
with how about uh? A woman named Dunn from LSU. Did you see
the photo of Joe Burrow with Olivia Dunn? Did you see the photo?
And he's not done yet. I heard a report that Sarah Elise is dating
Joe Burrow, your morning host on EBN, who told me, not me,
I could, I don't. I don't worry about that. Chris,
Chris the Kid said that Sarah Elise and you were an item, but not
anymore and now it's her and Joe Burrow. Would you comment on that?
Yes or no? Can you say anything? You're you're locked up saying nothing
because you don't want to talk about it? Is that right? Who cares?
That happens? It happens? You know magic, You know that that's
there, that their life that I live mine, Love will find you,
I live, love will find a way. Every time I mentioned her name
to Rocky Boyman, his eyes rolled back in his head. He starts shaking.
I know, I don't know what to says, like thank you.
We have the former mayor coming up, John Cranley about Joe Biden and and
MLS and how close we were to not having what happened on Saturday night?
It was a vote of five to four with PG Sittenfeld. You mean city
council back then was gonna likely vote it down. It was going down five
to four. That was going down four to five. Then they switched to
Rooney five to four, and they would have been in sacrim meno and everything
is happening with FC would be non existent because of one vote. And the
man who voted yes was PG. Sittenfeld. Put up a statue. That's
all I can. Well, I've put some stripes on the statue. But
I think he's out right now, and he's out for a while. I
think, so say give me out of the student's report because I'm concerned about
you, Sarah, Elise and Olivia Done. What can you tell me about
them? Nothing? You're not talking yes or no. I don't it's nonexist
yes or no. What about you and Olivia Done? Can't say, can't
say yeah. That's all I can says say yeah. But I could become
a cat I'll be on the catwalk, will he? In honor of a
special lady today, we wish are a very happy eightieth birthday. One of
your big listeners, Susanne Edwards. Susanne Edwards eightieth birthday today, she is
our citizen of the day, sag man, get me out of the students
report. We have Mayor John Cranley coming up soon, as you know,
to speak about FC and speak about Joe Biden, Willie and honor of a
rainy day here in a trice date, we leave you with the immortal words
of the stud report. And I'm talking about the significance of the passage of
time, right, the significance of the passage of time. So when you
think about it, there is great significance to the passage of time in terms
of what we need to do to lay these wires, what we need to
do to create these jobs. And there is such great significance to the passage
of time when we think about a day in the life of our children.
Time saga is all about the passage of time. I thought it was all
those other things like that, and any a lady was talking about you mean,
nil whatever. Let's continue with more John Cranley next that You're Home of
the Red Legs and more. Who's Radio seven hundred WLW. Joe Cunningham,
the great American of course, that John Cranley, who's spent eight years as
the mayor of the City of Cincinnati in about twenty five years in total service.
Came out about a week or two ago as a loyal Democrat to say
that Joe Biden should complete his term in office but should not stand for re
election. As a nominee of the Democrat Party. Whoever is elected this November
is going to serve until January of twenty twenty nine. I don't think anybody
believes that Joe Biden has the mental acuity to serve until twenty twenty nine.
But nonetheless, plus we want to get into what happens Saturday night a TQL
and John Cranley welcome again into Bill Cunningham Show. And first of all,
John, can you tell the American people what is Cranleigh doing these days in
July of twenty twenty four. What's they're currently life like now compared to what
it was before. It's wonderful. Bill. I'm very blessed and it's great
to be back with you. It's always fun. It was great to see
you and Penny at the game on Saturday night of the FCC massive win over
Miami, and obviously as mayor, I was proud to help the lenders and
Birding usher that team into this great city. The life is good for me,
Bill. I'm at the CaMK Law firm. I'm happily married with our
son who's just finished his freshman year at Saint David High School, and we
have more blessings than we deserve, and so we try to give back in
any way we can't do. You see a way of you getting back into
politics, you know, someday, but not in the short term. You
know, I think, as it turns out, for me, it was
the right thing that it just so happens that my time out of politics is
with my son being going through high school. I think that's a good time
for me not to be a distraction from him and get him into college,
and then I'll reevaluate at that time. Let's talk about what happened on Saturday
night. You want to talk about Biden, of course, but you and
I were there with some other a lot of the muckety MUCKs, the shakers
and movers, plus that Bailey was going nuts. Let's go back four or
five years. You're the mayor, and as I recall, there was issues
involved about certain utilities that may have scuttled the entire deal and if that did
not happen. When it occurred, Sacramento, the capital of the state of
California, was ready to step up and take the FC club. FC Sacramento
describe how uncertain it was as to whether Cincinnati would even have FC five or
six years ago. Oh, it was very close. I mean, first
of all, Bill, let's start with the good news. We are now
again a three big league city with Reds, the Bengals, and FCC Soccer.
Obviously not as big as baseball and football, but it is the fastest
going sport at America and is the largest sport in the world. And when
the likes of Messi come to America, you know that ten years from now,
it's only going to be bigger. And we got on the front end
of this train which is going to set Cincinnati up for a great success for
generations to come. And Jeff Birding and car Linder and all the other owners,
Scott Farmer deserved such enormous credit. But to answer your question, when
I was mayor, you know, I knew that it was going to be
a game changer for Cincinnati because we saw the success at Nippert and I also
knew that the leadership, the lenders and the farmers were willing to invest in
the other owners hundreds of millions of dollars to build a stadium in the city
at private expense, and I think that's very important. I think your listeners
are very familiar with the fact that the stadium deal for the Bengals was way
too generous with taxpayer money back in the late nineties, and we didn't want
to repeat that. And we are lucky to live in a community where the
lenders and the farmers put up literally over three undred million dollars to build that
stadium. What the city needed to do and what I happily championed as mayor,
was putting about twenty five million dollars in the infrastructure public infrastructure around the
stadium, including building a garage that the city owns to this day to accommodate
additional traffic at and near the statement, by which the city still makes money
from that investment. But the parking was needed, and considering that we paid
for every single thing in Paul Brown Stadium and not one thing in TQL,
it seemed like a no brainer to me. But at the time, as
you know, council was very divided and it was only a five to four
vote that originally originally passed to get that through. And I'm very proud that
I led that effort, and I'm glad that we got the votes. But
it is amazing when you look back on it, how narrow the majority was
for such a great success for us. And wasn't your Vet Simpson. I'm
not sure what's happened to her. I don't know where she is now.
I wish her well, But nonetheless, she was one of the ones kind
of whipping the council into voting no. Because the city spent twenty five million.
I would think Saturday night's game probably produced twenty five million dollars by itself.
I've never been in a more exciting soccer facility. I'm looking around here.
I've been to two games in my life. I said, this is
unbelievable. And if Bailey's going nuts, they're marching in from Findlay Market.
That was packed the excitement of twenty five million. Are those who voted no?
Remember their names? Was that your Vette Simpson? And who else can
you recall? Well, let's start. The yes votes were Smitherman, David
Man, Kevin Flynn was still on a council at that time, and God,
I'm blaked. Amy Murray was she there? Oh yeah, Amy Murray?
Of course, yes. He was a strong supporter. And the opposition
at the time was the Vet Simpson, it was PG. It was who
was the other two? And they they how about Wendell Young? Is he
there? Oh yeah, Wendell Young voted no, that's that's correct, and
so it was five to four vote in December of twenty seventeen. Now,
that was the reason I'm kind of slipping on some of the names because it
was a transition between one council to the next city council, so there were
changes in the makeup of the council. But luckily we were able to get
that barely through. And that vote happened right before I flew to New York
City with mister Linder and mister Birding and Farmer to do our final interview with
Major League Soccer to win the franchise expansion, which was a game changer for
the history of Cincinnati. Twenty five million investment, billions of dollars rewards that
worked in the West End right now is a vibrant, alive community. I
like to go back in time and say, okay, these are the persons
that are posed it and these are the persons that went out and got it
done. Now, secondly, you came out about a week ago and sets
time for Joe Biden to step aside his recent appearance on Morning Joe, he's
dug in his heels deep. I look at the list of the Democrats saying
Biden's got to step down. The long list not as long. And he
made the comment that I received eighty seven percent of the primary vote. I'm
a Democrat. I got eighty seven percent of the primary vote. And for
a party that stands for democracy, how do you have someone in office who
got eighty seven percent of the vote and the party chieftains overrule that eighty seven
percent and put someone else in charge. Do you buy that argument? Well,
look, I believe that based on what we saw in the debate,
that he is not likely to win and I want to win. And as
to your last point about he won the primaries, he sure did. And
so only as a legal matter, only he can make the decision to release
his delegates and allow us to have an open convention. And that's what I'm
urging him to do, which is to end his campaign open up the convention
and give us a fighting chance of winning in November, which I think is
very important to the future of our country. And right now, you know,
he's losing in all the battleground states. He was losing before the primary
or before the debate, he's losing by even more now. And I want
to see a Democrat win, and I don't believe he can win, even
though I think he's done a good job as president. He says, I've
been a good president. I got all the votes, they're my delegates.
I can do the job. Do you think he can be? Is he
mentally alert now? In your opinion? I don't know. But what I
do know is that he can't effectively communicate anymore. And that is the job
of being president, that's the job of winning a campaign. And certainly his
you know, age is a one way street for all of us. It's
not his fault, but it is what it is. And the idea that
is a communication abilities are going to get better when he's eighty six is fanciful.
And so I believe that our party can and should take the opportunity to
find a better candidate than give us a chance of winning in November, and
who is that. Well, if it was up to me, it would
be the governor of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer, the governor of Kentucky, Andy
Basher, Transportation Secretary Pete bog Edge, and just to name a few,
Josh Shapiro from Pennsylvania, Jared Poulis from Colorado. I like governors. I
like Midwestern people like Whitmer or Basher, you know, Kentucky, Michigan.
These are you know, these are pragmatic moderate Democrats, which are more of
my ilk. Those would be those would be my choices. Well, there's
one name missing from that list, Vice President Kamala Harris. What about her?
Oh? Look, at this point, she would not be my top
choice, but I think she's a better choice than Joe Biden. I mean,
the fact is that she was a tough on crime prosecutor in San Francisco,
attorney general. I think, you know, she hasn't always gotten the
best rapp as vice president, but at this point in time, I think
she would. She would be a better candidate than Joe Biden. Not my
first pick, but I would still rather have her than Joe Biden lead our
ticket at this time. Wouldn't that be a problem if you overwhelmed and whatever
the top of an African American female in office with Joe Biden and to have
somebody of a different skin tone take over the nomination when she's standing there ready
to go, wouldn't that be a problem among Democrats. Well, I'm against
identity politics, so I don't think that I think the Democratic Party is going
to unite around anyone to be Donald Trump. Obviously, our party did nominate
and elect Barack Obama twice, so we have you know, we have a
long standing commitment to diversity, and I'm confident that our party will be united
regardless of who our top candidate is. But let me state again, I
believe Kamala Harris can win. I think Gretchen Whitmer has a better chance of
winning, but I think Kamala Harris could win as well. Are you looking
forward to a debate again between Joe Biden and Donald Trump? I guess one
is scheduled around September tenth or eleventh, and I can't imagine. Well,
it was a pretty disastrous you know, it was a pretty disastrous debate,
you know, nine days ago, and I'm hoping by then we have a
different candidate debating Donald Trump. Well, he's not going to get better in
the passage of time. And let's face it, he's walking a path all
of us one day may walk, which is losing your mind when you get
old. Well, WILLI think about this? Think about this. The biggest
issue in America right now is inflation. And Donald Trump's policy is to put
ten percent tariffs on everything that comes into our country. His message seems to
be, you think inflation's high, hold my beer. I can do better.
And what bothers me is that we have the greatest economy in the world.
We've come back from COVID fast than any country in the world. Prices
are too high, But whose policies are going to be better to bring down
inflation in the next several years? And I believe that Trump's policies will make
inflation worse. And what bothers me is that our candidate for president isn't even
making this case. And I think it's about the economy. It usually is,
and it should be, and let's have that debate. But right now
we have a candidate who is not effectively communicating and that is a critical problem
that, given his age, will only get worse. And by the way,
I think it will get much worse for Trump to who loses a train
of thought and is not a young man either. But it's clear based on
the debate, that the Democrats can do better with a better candidate. Well,
I may disagree on the politics. I'm a Trump kind of a guy,
but I understand as a Democrat where you come from, I think it'd
be much easier for the Donald to defeat Joe Biden than defeat Kamala Harris anyone
else. When the Democratic Party unites, it is a terrible monster to be
a monolithic between the talk shows and the newspapers and the big city mayors and
college towns and labor unions and all the opinion makers, they all go in
one direction. That's a tough thing to beat for a Republican. However,
if the Democratic Party is split by one or two, three or four different
ways, guess what, it becomes a whole lot easier for the Republican to
win. And so we'll see what happens. But John Cranley, give my
best, your mom and dad, and uh, thank you, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry your son didn't go to Deer Park High School. I guess
the admission results tests were a little bit high, but he was able to
get into sant X, which is a good second choice. Hey, thank
you all right, John Cranley, former mayor, Thank you for coming on.
Good luck to you, John, Thank you. Let's continue to thank
you. Let's continue with more if a line becomes available. Five to one,
three, seven, four, nine, seven thousand. There it is
from one of the most prominent Democrats in this part of the country, Bill
cunning and the Great American with you every day. You're Home of the Reds
playing tonight hosting the Colorado Rocks on news radio seven hundred. Were you out
of you between the ages of ten and nineteen being either victims or the perpetrators?
So yeah, it is personal. Black death has been unfortunately accepted in
this country for a very long time. We had a chance sixty years ago
to get at the root causes, and people mocked President Johnson and we ended
up with Richard Nixon. I'm gonna work hard every day to transform this city.
That's what it takes to build a better, stronger save for chicagoan to
nearby step up. Hello, quiet and I'm Skulls, I'm broadcasting Rocky.
Those are the absurd comments in the marriag Chicago, Richard Nixon and Donald Trump.
Not about family formation, not about lack of faith, lack of morals,
not about no public none of that. It's about Richard Nixon and Donald
Trump. Do you get that? Yes? Okay, that's the problem in
Chicago. One hundred and seventeen shot Richard Nixon. Does anyone buy what he's
selling? No, he was at the NASCAR racing on the street race Sunday.
That's the mayor, that's where you belong. You're a mayor of Chicago.
You're a mayor Johnson kind of a guy, aren't you. He took
out Lori Lighthead. Well again you get beat. She's now on primary council
to get rid of the worst mayor and in Illinois that one goofy mayor that
is spend miser. That's the government, that's the governor. Whoever that African
American female mayor that's destroyed that small city outside of Chicago, she's investigating her.
It's like twelve hundred dollars an hour. How much was someone having to
pay you to live in Chicago, San Francisco, New York City? I
mean about Baltimore, Baltimore, go in the neighborhoods at Philadelphia. Was that
Trump Trump? Yes, that was It wasn't the policies the Democrat Party that
destroyed the cities and the schools and family life and the police department and none
of that. It's all about Richard Nixon. What you want to talk about,
Brian Toma, is that it Well, I want to ask because I
heard his interview and I like him a lot. I have actually been on
his podcast. Great guy. But the end you asked him about that that
woman who got you unfortunately got killed protecting her daughter, if she's in heaven
and if the perpetrator is in hell, and he says something to the effect
of, it's not what you do in your life that determines that, it's
who you know. And I'm just trying to think back to my Catholic teachings.
Is Catholicism teach it the same way? No, I was going to
say, I feel like I've been thought you got to live a good life,
and yes you can seek uh, you know, recompense and all that
sort of thing, but it's still about you know, what you do on
this earth? Am I wrong? At the end of his time, there
was this terrible guy on his left who was a thief and a crook and
a rapist and a murderer, who said, I accept you, and I'll
see you in paradise. He said, okay at the end. But I
like to think I won't mention his name, the cowardly murderer that shot seven
people and then going a mile and a half chase and kills himself. If
that guy's not boiling in hell right now, there's not a hell. And
if Melissa Parrott, who gave her life for her daughter, is not in
having to do good deeds and live a good life, I don't know.
Again, maybe I'm misconstrued what he said, but I like to feel and
I think most people would like to think it's how you live your life determines
where you go in the after life, not who you know? Was that
in a text here from Bob the Bricklayer who says Donald Trump and Richard Nixon
killed Jesus? Is that true? Probably? I think I think Rachel Madcow
said that last night according right here. I mean, that's the problem is
Richard Nixon, and maybe throwing dan Quayle had a lot to do with it.
So I don't know, Brian, Tom's a good man. I can't
a matter of crossroads, but I think it's caused me to have maybe have
to look up how my past Catholicism because I go to confession. I don't
know why I go. I tell Penny I'll do nothing wrong. I may
have some impure thoughts now and then shall we say done? You know what
I'm saying, Thank you ben I might have Thank you Benjamin, but I
don't act upon him. Is it okay to have impure thoughts? You cannot
be judged by your your thoughts. Well, I am impure thoughts every now
and then? Is that okay? Segment whatever you say? So what I'm
concerned. I go to confession maybe two times a year. Be goes,
I don't do anything wrong. So I come out. They give me and
our father halling good to go. Penny goes in there, she examines her
conscience. About twenty minutes later she has ten twenty minutes Twybe, that's what
you ought to do, examine your conscience. Miss I don't have a conscience.
Thank you. But she gets a lot more punishment than I get,
and she does nothing wrong. She's a living saint. But I'm thinking,
well you didn't. I mean, look, let's says a lot about you.
Well, she did imagine your name became a maybe four five times.
She's talking about you for twenty and she lives a second life. I'm not
aware of. It's a lame lone asking a couple of questions. I mean,
I've asked her. I said, she comes out has eight times as
many prayers as you do me. And I said, I'm like a parking
ticket, You're like a felony. And I'm thinking, come on, man,
but I got nothing to say. What do I say? Impure thoughts
cannot be wrong? Am I right or wrong? Correct? Yeah? Do
you agree or not? Yeah? Because I don't act upon them. Women
want me to act upon them, Like Sarah Elise, I'm going to the
FC game on Saturday with my wife and she undressed me with her eyes.
She took a picture of you in a crosswalking. It was like world news.
I'm going to guys walking to going to the game with his wife.
She had impure thoughts about me, I'm thinking, but she did not act
upon them. I want more of though she wants more, she said,
So I'm not capable of giving more I'm sorry. That's all I got.
But if you thought about it, give me some sports will leave the Stude
reports a service of your local tim Star Heating and Air condisiting dealers time Star
quality you could feel in Cincinnati called Stacey Heating and Air Solutions five one,
three three six seven h E A T which I said. A reporter asked
Jean Pierre whether or not the president wears diapers? Cats? These are interesting
time? Am I some alternative universe? The media is going to cover Joe
Biden? Are you kidding me? Is he wearing diapers? The most amazing
thing is everyone, everyone in the media is now shocked shot at the debate
performance. Ask one Trump supporter, were you shocked at that debate performance?
No? Pretty much? What how I thought it would go? Confirm what
I know? The entire media is, how did this happen? Is unbelievable.
Can't believe we didn't see that? Is he wearing diapers? Seg?
I don't know? Do you have impure thoughts? Yes? Seg. Nickeldolo
comes off the eye Elder. I start for the Reds is a one two
against the Rocks. He's playing? Yeah, the blister's gone. How many
on the I are like, all right, so I did some research on
this. So currently now with the DOLO offers ten ten players on the injured
list, and how many others have been injured and not been officially put on?
All of them? All of them, right, except Ela Cruz,
except the bats. I mean, I guess my point is everybody wants to
fire David Bell. What would make more of a significant impact on the direction
this team this year? Right, a situation or two where Bell left in
a pitcher too long or took out a guy, or if we had half
of those ten players, five of the ten could play baseball. Matt McLean
could play baseball, right, TJ. Friedel? And then I look on
the Reds directory. They have thirty one strength and conditioning and health and performance
and wellness people, including what I see, including two mental performance coaches.
Metal we need those here. They got somebody Latin America, this director of
minor league training. They got two director of rehabbing physical therapies. They got
multiple strength coaches, they got multiple orthopedic surgeons thirty one. So what should
that not be looked at more than maybe did David Bell leaving a picture too
long? Yes, I don't know why players can't play. I don't know
why we can't get on the air every now and then. It's pretty basic.
Would you agree we're on the iHeart app, though, I'm sorry,
go to the iHeart of course, if you're hearing me right now on the
app, you don't need to go there. And if you're we're listening on
traditional radio, you don't hear me anyway, So why should I tell you?
What was the question? The question is why is there keep charge of
getting healthy, getting players healthy and getting him on the field. How many
they have thirty one? I just don't I don't understand it. They must
have their own building down there at GABP, say twenty years ago the Reds
head Tim Kremcheck, Tim Kremcheck, Mark Mann, and that's a bunch of
other guys. One about the mental Jack McKeon said, this year we got
more m than we've got two mental performance coaches, two wellness coaches, two
applied sports science coaches. Can we get on the air here? No,
I'm sorry, we can't. So we can't get on the air. And
these thirty one experts cannot get the team on the field. They got a
better team. You're saying if I was an owner of a team, that
I would be looking at and say, what's that. What's most significantly affecting
our team's record this year is in fact we got guys that were paying that
we can't put on the field. How about this, Bob the brick letter
says, there's a changing table next to the old office, but the president
can go and have his stiper change. Now there's a thought talk about impure
thoughts. Does he have early on set briga mortis? Yes, early parkins
ten visits Parkinson's doctors in the last night. If some doctor, an expert
in Parks saw you ten times ten, would your wife say, honey,
do you have Parkinson? Yeah? No, I don't know. Just early
on set rigamortis is what I say. And the media, actually, I'm
shocked, where you believe it? Shocked everything they get right. Everyone wonders
why people pay attention to stuff that's said on the internet because the trusted sources
we were told to believe for all these years got COVID wrong, They get
the president wrong. The hunter Biden's laptop was fague, that was right.
I mean all this. They get everything wrong, and they're the experts on
News Shocked Sports. If you were changing Rocky Boyman's diaper, Jesus, would
you think he needs to see his Parkinson expert coverage today Willie of the Reds
and Rocks begins at six' ten. Sports Doc Arnel carriers inside pitch.
I got a picture of the changing table outside the Oval office. We don't
see Chevrolet extra inning show after the game. Would you wipe his ass?
Yes? Or no? College football? That's a Big twelve media day in
Las Vegas. I beg sixteen, the Big sixteen, whatever it is.
How about this? You're still off the air. Thanks guys. They got
a big setup, rock Allegiance Stadium, show girls signs, lockers of all
whole teams, Shrimp flombay, the whole deal at the sin University of Cincinnati
locker. They got a jersey, they got a helmet on top the name
plate University of Cincinnati CI N C I N A T T I no double
N. Come on, disrespect, disrespect, disrespect some good news though,
What if Notre Dame was n O T E R. Would you feel this?
How about Deer Park? About Cincinnati finally in the big time. I'm
sorry we can't start it Bearcats coach Scott Saderfield has said, what Dante Corleone's
back thing I had? He was diagnosed a couple of weeks ago with blood,
blood clots and lung So he's okay. Cunningham know they misspelled the name.
Cincinnati did the Big Time? You made it the big time? Here
you are. I think they ought to go back to the Metro Conference.
So the Big twelve has sixteen teams, The Big Ten has eighteen teams,
Big eighteen, Big eighteen? What is the actually now? Just a power
for conference? What's the SEC twenty five thirty two? There's sixteen or eighteen?
Why not change him to Big eighteen? And doesn't have the same ring.
Oh, they won't change the Big ten because the world will end.
No, it won't. The SEC won't change events. You know, the
potentially, you know, since most teams not an underdame, but we'll play
in a conference championship game, there's a potential a a team could play seventeen
games. We're back on again. We're back. We're back. We're back.
We're back. Good, welcome back everybody. There there's a chance in
a twelve team playoff scenario, which will start this year, everyone knows a
team could play seventeen games, almost like an NFL team. Exactly. Yeah,
Joe Burrow is now taking up he's becoming a pianist. Do you want
Joe Burrow to be? I want him studying film? How about a runway,
studying the opponents defense? That's what I want. You've got plenty of
time for all that stuff. You don't want a pianist. Noo. Although
he's dating I think Olivia Dunn or Sarah Elise, That's what I'm told segment.
You imagine if Livy Dunn, Oh, that would be and he were
dating. That would be the end of the world as we know. Chaos,
chaos. I have chaos, or maybe I carry it, but I
see everywhere I go there's utter chaos and confusion. I wonder why. I
just asked the White House Press Corps person, all right, spokesperson, if
the President wears a diaper, That's unbelievable. Never thought i'd see that.
Does the President skip meals? He overslappt his meal or dinner with the German
Chancellor, and so he was in snappy time between ten am and four.
He has lunch, then takes an app and he was supposed to be meeting
with Chancellor Krueger and he couldn't because he was sleeping under doctor's orders. You
have to take rest. Well, he's got everybody in the world in town
today, right except Putin and Kim Jong un? Would you change his diaper?
No? Would you? Would you? I have to think about it
because there's a changing table now outside the Oval office and he's our president.
I'm not a cream Jean Pierre person, but I would not want her right
now. No, I even feel bad, like, oh god, it's
past. She's drinking a fifth. And all the press people were all of
a sudden pile on all these questions three years, eight years, sixteen years
to ask or ask all these questions, and now finally complicit. All of
them are going on inside bloodless the media run Democrat party, and I couldn't
love it anymore. Complete confusion, and of course the telesition night's at Durrel
Country Club. He's going to be in glory and sunshine and love and needs
to keep laying low and then come back and say, look all this is
great and about his mental health all the way, Donald, but go away.
Inflation inflation. Inflation. Inflation is the big problem. That's the biggest
single thing effect in your lives. All the job numbers, they can fudge
all those, But when you go to the grocery store and things are two
and three times more expensive than they were three years ago, that hurts.
You. Want any sing singular other thing. I will change that. He
won't, She won't done deal. See, you wouldn't want to be well.
Trumpster is next week at with Republican National Conventions. When's the Democrats mid
August nineteen twenty second? They're in Chicago with nineteen sixty eight all over again.
I got another question. Yes, whatever Chick fil A does, why
can't fishes and Wendy's act like Chick fil A? I used to enjoy my
super big boy on your ring to the cherry coke. There's the model and
chick and sometimes and and that's the fudge cake. Now no chance I try
to go to Wendy's and Kenwood, good luck, good luck. The person
giving to me has a ring in her nose and ain't up and down her
arms. I'm not eating the burger. Why can't Chick fil A teach fishes
and Wendy's? My favorite place is when Pennies out of down to go,
don't don't tell her to go the billing as they do and they're not open
on Sundays. Imagine that by taking me out of the Studge Report because the
president diaper needs to be changed. Willie and Houtter of a wild day here
at the tri State. We leave you with the immortal words of the stew
Report. Thank you, thank you, change that diaper. On seven hundred WLW