Welcome to Missing Persons Case Files, A place where they're gone. Are not
the forgotten? What's happening in the forest of North America? How are so
many people disappearing only to have the remains found much later, or in many
cases not at all. Are their predators to blame, giant hair covered beasts
or even more terrifying us as humans. Maybe it's both, Maybe it's neither.
These are just a few of the questions we'll look to uncover here on
the Missing Persons Case Files. Marine a new Kelly, nineteen years old,
Canyon Creek Campground near Cougar, Washington. Summer of twenty thirteen. Marine contacted
her sister to ask to borrow some camping gear. She then met a Facebook
post asking any of her friends if they'd like to come with her camping or
on a spiritual journey, as she put it. With the group of friends
picked and ready to go, they set out to Cite number three at the
Canyon Creek Campground, which is located in the Gifford Pinchot National Forest. This
was on Sunday, the ninth of June. This area is so remote that
the campground is tent only camping. You can't even get an RV back there.
Also, this place is huge, at one point three two million acres.
The day they arrived, it was in the low seventies with no mention
of rain, absolutely perfect for camping. Not known if there was any kind
of drinking or drug use going on with what was to come, though it's
been speculated, but no one in the group has ever spoken up about this.
It was around five o'clock that evening when I Knew spoke up and said
it was time for her to begin the spiritual quest that she had been preparing
for. She acted like it was no big deal at all when she stood
up took off all her clothes, including her shoes. Her friends, however,
were shocked. She then grabbed a fanny pack that contained the compass,
small knife, and some matches. She told her friends that she would be
back by midnight and walked off into the woods, never to be seen alive
again. That night, the temp would fall into the forties and a light
rain would fall. Needless to say, this worried her friend's a great deal
since she obviously was not dressed for the occasion. When midnight came and anew
did not, they felt something needed to be done, but they contacted the
Sheriff's office. A search party was up and going fairly quickly, and there
were hopes she would be found fairly quickly, as bare footprints were soon discovered
not too far from the campsite. The footprints were believed to be about a
new size and led to Canyon Creek, which isn't very far from the campground.
It was determined she crossed the creek without issue. It's been said though,
that the terrain to the creek was very steep and would be quite difficult
and probably painful to someone without shoes. Just as impressive, though, the
fact that she was able to make it up another very steep ridge and all
the way to Forest Road fifty four, where the footprints stopped, so obviously
there's no way to know which direction she would have gone from there. There
were no signs of a struggle, no clues, no evidence at all.
It was as if she just vanished into thin air. Search dogs from Pacific
Crest search dogs were brought into aid searchers unable to pick up a new scent
past this road. The search and rescue team wanted to bring in helicopters for
an aerial search, but By this time, the fog and cloud cover was
so great it would have been useless. At this point, she had been
nude and alone in the woods for a couple of days, with no food,
and the temperature dropping into the forties at night, not to mention the
rain and all the mud that covered the ground. The situation was not looking
good. All this said, though, the search was called off after just
two days. Oftentimes search parties will look for weeks, even months, but
in a newscase that wasn't to be Why Understandably, her family reached out and
begged for the search to continue. This seemed to work, and it was
resumed that same week. It still makes you wonder, though, why it
was called off so soon in the first place. No explanation was ever given.
This wasted crucial time, considering she had no food or water or no
shelter, Yet they give it less than forty eight hours before throwing in the
towel. At six o'clock PM on the fifteenth of June, just six days
after disappearing, the search was called off yet again. Not a trace was
found, and since it was likely that she would have succumbed to hypothermia by
then, they stepped to their decision. It was then announced that I knew
was presumed deceased. Tiffany, what the actual hell going on in this case?
Exactly when I started researching this case, I was like, why I
get wanting to quote unquote find yourself. But this is a little strange.
You know, going out into the wilderness with your friends and you just strip
everything off and you're like, hey, I'm going to go on this spiritual
quest now. You know, I've talked to you about it for a while
and today's day. It's just so strange how she would even feel comfortable doing
that, knowing the terrain that they just drove to to camp to just strip
everything off and go. Yeah. I had a couple of opinions, and
you and I talked a little bit, and I think that we're going to
be in agreement for the most part in this one. But yeah, just
to touch on what you said a little bit, it would be different in
my opinion, I'm certainly not one that's ever going to take my clothes off
anywhere public, especially in the woods. You know, I've seen tics where
they can get and chiggers and all that stuff. But that said, she's
a nineteen year old girl. She's an attractive girl, small, so I'm
sure she's one of these that was comfortable in her own skin. So her
stripping naked and me stripping naked are two completely different things, right. I
still don't get it, still do not get it whatsoever. But let's just
jump to what we think and then we will talk about all the other scenarios.
I think we answered the question when she got to when they were able
to follow her scin and her tracks to this road and then everything stopped.
What else could it be? One or two? We had one of two
things. Someone took her against her will at that road, seeing an attractive
young naked girl. It just takes that wrong person seeing this and she's gone.
No one will ever see her again. So either someone took her against
her will or kind of what I lean to it was planned. Yeah,
I would agree with the being planned. You know, we talked about it.
You know. Sure she caught her sister and said, hey, can
I borrow your camping gear? She also sent a text message saying, hey,
anyone looking to go camping this weekend with a car? So did she
already have the place that they were due to go? Camping plotted out in
her brain, did she? I mean five o'clock is when she up and
left everybody, stripped off her clothes and said I'll be back at midnight.
That's seven hours. She had to known that it was going to get cold.
But at the same time, here's five o'clock. I'm just going to
go on this ordering, this journey to find myself naked. And then she
never came back, and like you said, her scent ended at the road.
I really think that everything, I think everything was set up. I
think everybody in this scenario were pawns. I think she placed everybody where they
were accordingly, and it may not be too far of a stretch of the
imagination that there were people who knew that she was going to do this.
I agree with you in the statement that her friends that were there were pawns,
but I think that she had already had it planned. Maybe she met
a guy, maybe her family didn't approve of him. I don't know.
This is just my opinion. I do not know this girl, know nothing
about her side of this story, so I don't want to offend family members
or upset family members anyway. I'm just going over scenarios. This is what
it seems like to me. She had it set up for someone to be
at that road. So she was leaving at five o'clock, say seven o'clock.
It take me a couple hours to get there. Seven o'clock. You
be there and I'll meet you butt naked. So that's what I think happened.
She had it set up for someone to be there. The people that
were in the campgroup didn't know anything about it. I don't think her family
knew about it, And we'll talk a little bit about that. The most
fishy thing in this whole case is the family's reaction afterward, in my opinion,
had a Facebook group set up, find a New or you know whatever,
Fine Marine, whatever it was called. They were reaching out to people,
you know, begging for help, and then all of a sudden,
I don't remember how long after the Facebook group is down, they take it
down. They stopped begging for help. And what was it that her brother
posted on that Facebook group, Tiffany? He said in quotations, I know
things with a smiley face at the end. Yeah, what does that mean?
Yeah, that's what I was That's what I was going to say.
And you know, in the research that I did. I went on to
YouTube and I was looking at these videos, but I wasn't watching the videos
because the majority of them were regurgitating the same thing. I've heard it so
much I know it. I started looking at comments in this comment that I
found. I found several that were that hit pretty close to home, but
this one said I knew her. She was a student in my class at
Lewis and Clark High School. She had interesting tendencies. She went by the
name Anew. She played music all the time school. I could see her
going on a quest as she did seem to have a pure soul. She
was very overly trusting of people in general, so I can see her being
picked up by someone driving on the road. I know that she had also
mentioned joining a commune as well while she was attending Lewis and Clark High School.
I have personally hiked a lot in that area. A number of roads
in the area have been closed due to vandalism, so her being picked up
on the road is certainly not out of the question. There are quite a
number of intersecting trails in the area, so it would also be easy to
find your way out. Signage is good so finding trails out to the trailhead
should not have been difficult. Sort of most kind of screams what everybody's saying
about her. She's free spirited, she's young, you know, she's generally
happy. No reason to think, you know, she's going to go off
into the woods and harm herself. Yeah, maybe she just wanted to disappear.
That's what it sounds like. And I'm going to feel like just the
biggest asshole in the world if next month they report that her remains are found
out there, you know, I'm going to feel like shit over that.
But that's just not what it's looking like. Yeah, the way things are
lining up and the things that we're finding, it doesn't indicate to me that
she would have perished out there in the woods, you know. I mean
they're talking about hypothermia, which I get. It's a very real thing,
and she doesn't have anything with her except a Fannie pack with a knife of
compass and matches. I mean, she could have started a fire if she
you know, if she were to get cold, she had the means to.
Yeah, but it started raining then, yes, then it started raining.
So I don't know which I've made ours in the rain before camping and
it start raining, it's not easy. If you find the right spot with
coverage, which it sounds like this is a very overgrown area, it would
be possible to make a fire. You know, I don't know her level
of survival skills or if she had any at all, so it would be
possible to make a fire. I doubt highly that she was catching food though
right the water situation, I don't know if she could have found water anywhere.
I don't know there. We looked into several of these cases, and
this is the first adult that we've covered in the missing person's case files.
And she's barely an adult if we're talking legally, no eighteen year an adult.
She was nineteen, so she's an adult, can make her own decisions
and do whatever she wants. But the reason I wanted to share this one
is the other cases we shared, we know something happened, we know some
kind of foul play, or they went missing or lost, something bad happened,
But this one we don't know. Stay tuned for more Paranormal Odyssey.
We have no idea, and it just goes to show that it's just how
different how people are. I mean, is she using an opportunity of tragedy
like someone being killed by an animal or going missing or being lost in the
woods. Is she using a tragic situation to benefit herself to disappear? Well,
that's what I was thinking. I was thinking that she was the way
she was setting everything up. And again, this is all speculation. If
she's passed away, I am sorry. But if she set everything up like
this to make her disappearance not seem so out of the ordinary, almost like
she was covering her tracks from the very beginning and saying, this is what
I'm going to do. This is what I've set out to do, but
this is how I'm going to carry it out, so it's not suspicious.
Yeah, she laid that groundwork, she made the public statements, she did.
Everything she was supposed to is out there for everyone to see. You're
exactly right. Yes, My only question is why did she do it naked?
That's the only thing that stumps me. Did you carry out the part
so far that you had to completely do this one hundred percent? Did whoever
pick her up have closed in the car waiting for her? Oh, I'm
sure you know. Yeah, you're exactly right. Why I throw in that
added little element of what the fuck right? Exactly? You know why we
got to go the extra miles easily gone out in a bathing suit and some
damn Teva's. Yes, you know, some birking stalks or something. Just
protect your feet. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, And I had read I
went through so many of those comments. I probably read one hundred of them.
And this one girl had said, you know, I went out on
one of these quests as well to find myself. But she did striper clothes
off. However, she wore her shoes. So there's that. I mean,
I yeah, it makes sense. Your feet, I mean you it
was the summertime. There are snakes and ship out there. Yes, you
know, I mean I don't like walking around. You know, I'm in
Tennessee, though we have rattlesnakes, copper heads are bad down here in the
mountain. So I wear pants when I go out, and I need to
get some of them damn snake guards. That's gonna be my purchase this year.
I'm going to purchase some. But I'm terrified of snakes. When when
Kevin and I went out scouting at Sasquats Farms where the squatsh hot is going
to be This year, I stepped over a damn snake walking through the woods
and it wasn't quite summer yet. I was shocked that there was one out,
but Kevin walked completely over it. He was in front of me.
And then as I was stepping over it, I saw something move under me
and I jumped because I hate a snake. I kill a snake, cannot
stand them. But there's God, I'm sure there's snakes. There has to
be snakes out there in the mountains in Washington. Why are you going walking
around in the woods barefoot? Woman? Right? And look at the like
look at the terrain. It was described that it was, you know,
terrible to be able to traverse in all the rocks. If she had to
climb anything, you're not going to get very good footing and being barefoot,
and I get that, But at the same time, when you're going out
in the woods for seven hours, you're going to have to have something to
protect your feet. Yeah, And I mean we haven't even touched on the
other stuff because we've talked about that stuff to death, and I just I
don't think an animal got her. There would have been a mess. I've
said it so many times. You would have found some kind of remains.
You'd have found well, you wouldn't have found clothes because she was wearing none,
but you would have found blood and as gross as it sounds, body
parts. You know, if a bear had gotten a hold over a cougar
mountain line anything, I don't think it was an animal t she could have
gotten lost, But again, wouldn't her remains have been found? But everything
I did read talked about the overgrowth and everything in this area. One of
the search and rescue people was quoted as saying, you could walk right up
on a body and never see it because of all of the overgrowth. So
she could be laying out there and it's just so overgrown that you can't see
her. The weather, the weather again with the fog and everything coming in
to prevent the helicopters from flying over. But it also is pretty strange as
to why they called it off after two days. Yeah, why the hell
we didn't even touch on that? What the hell does Yes, And in
one of the comments I read as well, he was in the army at
the time and seen this case, and so they had actually called and talked
to the sheriff's department that was handling the case about bringing it was him and
his platoon and they were going to bring a massive amount of people with him,
and the sheriff said that we have enough people. What he turned help
away? He turned it away. Why would you do that in a missing
person case when you have an immense amount of terrain? That's true, the
one point three million acres. But when you said that, Tiffany, it
made me think about the Dennist Martin case. And everyone talks about the Dennis
Martin case ended up being a what not to do lesson, And one of
the things people said was there were way too many people up there looking for
this boy that were stepping over themselves destroying evidence. So I would be curious
to know how many searchers they had, because most of these cases, it's
reported how many were there. I don't remember seeing an official number. I
don't remember saying an official number of it either. So if they were overwhelmed
with people, it would make sense for this guy to turn them away.
But if it was just your average search and rescue and you've got these people
with this ability that want to help, there's no reason at all to turn
them away. Right, And I'm at the understanding that this gentleman and his
core group of people were six hours away. But if they were to get
on a plane, I mean, it would take so much less time.
And they were willing to do anything to be able to come and help.
But they got turned away less than forty eight hours. Less than forty eight
hours they gave it to find this completely helpless nude young girl. I mean
she had to have been freezing if she was out there, the poor thing.
She immediately regretted her decision to go frolicking nude in the forest. As
soon as that sun went down, it dipped into the forties and it started
raining. Yeah. So if it breaks your heart to think about it,
does it does? So she was either overly confident in her ability to carry
this out. Most nineteen year olds know everything. I was not when you
were nineteen oh, and I thought I had it all together. I mean
I got married at nineteen, so I thought I knew it all. I
got married at twenty and that lasted about ten years. Yep. So it's
she was either overly confident in her ability to carry out this seven hour track
to finding herself or this spiritual quest she wanted to go on or it's like
you and I said, she had a plan, she carried it out,
and now she's gone. I don't think it was anything paranormal related. I
don't think it was anything cryptid related. No. I think this is just
a straightfall. She either fell, she passed up hypothermia. She could have
gotten injured if it were raining and super muddy on those cliff faces and the
rocks. She could have fallen somewhere and injured herself severely and passed from that.
Yeah. To me, though, it comes down to why did the
family stop? I don't want to say I was going to say why did
the family stop giving a shit? Because I'm not going to say that.
I don't even think that. I don't know why I would have said it,
because that's an unfair statement. But it appears that the family have stopped
looking right. The Facebook don't cost anything. If a Facebook group is free,
why would you take it down right after what? Six days? Is
that what you said? Oh, I don't remember, No, that the
Facebook group was up for a while. They eventually took it down. That's
what leads me to think, And I wish I would have looked further into
that. If anyone out there knows, Please contact Tiffany or myself and let
us know. I would like to know how long after the search was called
off, that the time period from when the search was called off to when
the family took down the Facebook group and the brother made that statement because it's
my thinking, my opinion, my theory that the family wasn't in on this.
They were devastated at the loss of this young lady, like any of
us would be. And then she eventually reached out to them and said,
hey, stopped all this. I'm okay, stop looking for me. Stop
telling people to look for me. I'm fine. I don't want people to
know. Don't tell them I contacted you, but just please stop. That's
what I think happened. I think she's living in some commune somewhere, and
in ten years or five years or whatever, she may show back up and
say, yeah, I was young and dumb and I made a stupid decision
and I regret at my actions. I don't think it's illegal, No,
not at all. She hasn't broken any laws. No, so she would
be what thirty, Now this is you know something she had talked about doing
the wrong way about doing it. If this is what she in fact did.
But I agree with that theory, and it makes a lot of sense
as to why, you know, they have stopped looking for her if she
reached out to them and said, hey, I'm I'm good as gold,
I'm happy, this is what's going on, don't look for me anymore.
I just got this gut feeling in that that's what happened. They were the
regular heartbroken family looking for their loved one to pray and God please send her
home or do anything, and then they get that phone call that every family
in that situation prays for and they're abiden by her wishes. And I made
the comment, you know, ten years down the road, she could come
back and say, Okay, I screwed up. Sorry. She could be
the happiest she's ever been. She could be living her life out there and
the forest, frolicking. Everybody's naked, everybody's having there, smoking their herb
and eating their gun, their gummies or or whatever they're doing the kids are
doing these days. But she could just be as happy as as anything.
She could be in another country, living on a tropical island. We don't
know, so good for her if that's what happened. Good for her,
but it gives us something to talk about, yes, exactly. And you
know siblings share things with each other. Oh yeah, they're not going to
tell anybody else. And there's so many different rabbit trails with this one,
just like there are all the other ones that are covered. And some say
she was raised by a single mother and she was an only child, but
her mother was actually married and she had five siblings, so you know siblings
are going to be well. Her brother is the one that put out that
Facebook post, right, and they she could have been closer to him than
any of them, so she's like, hey, this is what I'm doing.
And then he posted that which was very cryptic. But again to your
point earlier, Tiff, you're an adult, you're nineteen. You can disappear
if you want. Why go through all this? Why strip naked? Why
set up this elaborate camping trip if I mean, you can just disappear if
you want. It's your decision. You're a grown ass woman. Why go
through all this? Why worry all these people? I mean, does a
little bit of mental illness come into play, hungry for attention? I don't
know, be it or it could be something cultural with her indigenous background.
Maybe it wouldn't have been okay if she just up and said, hey,
I'm I'm gonna go to an to commune peace out. Yeah. They said
she's like a Pacific islander or something. She has a very, very tropic
very I can't even think of the word. She looked Hawaiian. I must
she looks Hawaiian. Yeah, but there's a word for it, and I'm
drawing a blank. But she has that look. Dark haired, dark eyes,
dark skin, very pretty. I don't know what their religious beliefs are.
I don't know enough about that culture, but I don't know. I
just question there are other ways to go about it. Why worry all these
people, especially I mean her friends, that we're with her, they have
to feel like, okay, you played me. If this is what happened,
you know, right. And there were so many comments saying, well,
if they were truly her friends, as soon as she's stripped down and
tried to walk into the woods naked, they would have said, I don't
really think that's the best idea. We probably shouldn't do that. But at
the same time, you or I or anybody else we weren't there, Yeah,
so we could say so many things, but when you're not there in
that actual place with them, it's hard to tell how you would react,
and you feel comfortable saying you know, I know, I don't think that's
a very good idea. Yeah, I saw those comments too, and I
think they're fair. It's fair to make those comments. But at the same
time, if I wanted to do something, you couldn't stop me, right,
I would do it, and she could have waited tillybody went to sleep
and then began her naked frolicking. Yeah, you're not going to stop somebody
from doing something that they want to do, right exactly. Yeah, I
would try to stop you from running into what's naked, though, because you're
my friend and well, I have enough respect for you that I wouldn't strip
naked. I would wait till I got out. If if being nude was
a part of the equation, let me get away from folks, right,
then I'll do it. You ain't got to give everybody a show, right,
you know, I'm not a little nineteen year old. There's that.
Yeah. Do you have anything else to add, tiffany any other thoughts?
No, not that I can think of. I think we pretty much touched
on everything. And you know, hey, we're not always going to pin
these cases on bigfoot. I mean, if it leads down that direction,
then we'll throw it out there as being plausible. But in this one,
it's absolutely not. Yeah, and what speaks to that where did this happen
the freaking Gifford Pinchot National Forest. There's been so many reports come out of
there. Washington State is the capital of bigfoot sidings, and I just don't
think Sasquatch had anything to do with this case at all, So we're not
even going to bring that up. I think it's stilly. Yes, I
think this was the case of you know, she's nineteen years old, she's
strong in her beliefs, and she wanted to do and that's what she did.
And we can only hope that she did, in fact to get in
a car with someone that's a friendly that took her to where she wanted to
go. Yeah, Yeah, we certainly certainly hoped that that was the case.
Guys, As always, we want you if you have any opinions on
this case, certainly send those our way. If you have any cases that
you would like first to cover. I've gotten several recommendations from people that we
are going to be covering. Yeah, you have any recommendations, please send
those Wayne at Paranormal World Productions or Tiffany at Paranormalworld Productions dot com. And
we will continue to crank these out because it seems like you guys enjoy them.
And I can't speak for Tiffany, but I love the hell out of
looking into them. I do too. I do too. You can find
so many things out that you never would have known if you hadn't looked.
Yeah. So yeah, we're having a good time doing it, so we
will continue. You guys help us out, give us some suggestions. But
until we talk to you all again, y'all take care of yourself, take
care of each other. By Oh they say you don't gotta go home,
but you can't stay. No, I don't want to be long. We're
all loving try try that time everything, cry, thank you, joy for
me, joy staying right, come right away. So spass games speak stays
and bass and games used games and pass