1 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:30,559 Hello, and welcome to the show. I'm Martin Willis your host, and 2 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:35,960 we have an interesting show for you this evening. We have Patrick Jackson and 3 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:42,799 Stephen Colburn and they have basically Patrick's come up with a theory on what he 4 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:47,840 thinks things are related, all related, and when it comes to some of 5 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:53,079 the paranormal, some people will argue that UFOs are not paranormal because there's so 6 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:59,520 much evidence that they're here that they're not exactly paranormal. But anyway, that's 7 00:00:59,719 --> 00:01:04,359 my compared to I'm interested in just hearing what his thoughts are on what we 8 00:01:04,439 --> 00:01:07,680 may be seeing. Now. He does a lot of work with orbs, 9 00:01:07,719 --> 00:01:11,439 which may be different than your average UFO. I'm not sure we're gonna be 10 00:01:11,439 --> 00:01:15,599 talking about all that in just a minute. This week we have Charles Lear 11 00:01:15,079 --> 00:01:19,680 back with our blog and this week and it's called when UFOs Were Left to 12 00:01:19,799 --> 00:01:26,120 Private Investigators, And there's a number of people, including Donald Keyhole, who 13 00:01:26,159 --> 00:01:30,920 you don't think of. I guess he did some investigating after his years with 14 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,079 the service in the military. But anyway, it's a great blog as usual, 15 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:41,159 so check that out. And next week we have my friendly Spiegel. 16 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,879 We'll be on and we are good to go. I'm going to bring in 17 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:48,599 our guests, starting with Patrick Jackson. Welcome to the show. Patrick, 18 00:01:49,359 --> 00:01:52,079 Hi, how are you doing all right? Doing well? Thank you and 19 00:01:52,319 --> 00:01:55,079 glad to see you here. And we're a little he's having a little trouble 20 00:01:55,159 --> 00:01:59,159 this camera. But Liasi's here. Stephen, how are you as Stephen? 21 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:05,400 You're an ox California And Patrick here from UK? Yes? And so Patrick, 22 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,400 where where are you in the what part of the UK? Um? 23 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,159 Do you live? Where do you live? I mean West London? West 24 00:02:13,159 --> 00:02:15,639 London? Oh, okay, And I've heard a lot now. I brought 25 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,439 this up recently. I think it was with Philip Mantel. I said that 26 00:02:20,759 --> 00:02:24,039 some people tell me that a lot of there's not a lot of sightings and 27 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,599 a lot of the UK because of the weather. Is that Is that something 28 00:02:28,599 --> 00:02:32,400 you ever hear about or does it not matter? They're they're everywhere. Um, 29 00:02:32,439 --> 00:02:36,879 it's probably because it's so cloudy, cloud most of the time. Yeah, 30 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:40,319 so it's probably happening above the clouds. Um. But I think that 31 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:45,080 it's just as common here as it is anywhere else. Yes, we don't 32 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,800 see it as much because of the weather. Yeah, because it's more dark 33 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:53,159 and gray in our in you know, generally, but right now we've got 34 00:02:53,159 --> 00:02:55,680 a really good summer, so you know, people start seeing more about the 35 00:02:55,759 --> 00:03:01,360 time of year and as and Steve, even where you're at is the number 36 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:07,759 one place in the country where not not just because of the population, but 37 00:03:07,319 --> 00:03:12,719 because there's a lot of really great weather out in California. Yeah, that's 38 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,800 right. It's probably because of the weather, and probably because the southern California 39 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:21,280 here is a major UFO hot spot as well. The UK is probably just 40 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:23,439 as hot, but just don't see him as much because of the clouds, 41 00:03:23,439 --> 00:03:27,240 like Patrick was saying. And Arizona is actually a big hot spot to you, 42 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:34,759 just across the California eastern border there the Hobby desert in general. Right, 43 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,560 uh huh, So Patrick, let's let's start on Well, first of 44 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,360 all, the name of your book, I put it out there if you 45 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:46,400 would. The name is Quintan Paranormal, a twenty fionalysis of the paranormal PHO 46 00:03:46,479 --> 00:03:51,840 number. And what made you Well, first of all, were you interested 47 00:03:52,039 --> 00:03:57,800 in so called paranormal before you for a long time and then you kind of 48 00:03:57,800 --> 00:04:00,560 put your study in that together? Is that how it happened? Yeah, 49 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:06,479 so I kind of grew up in a very paranorbal hotspot with ghosts sen UFOs 50 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,879 kind of like being seen quite a lot. And I don't actually mean by 51 00:04:11,319 --> 00:04:15,240 big flying sources flying over the place. I mean I used to see these 52 00:04:15,319 --> 00:04:18,199 little balls of light flying over the street lights a lot, and I never 53 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,480 knew what they were, so I just used to watch them and now be 54 00:04:21,519 --> 00:04:28,399 that but the paranormal as all. Well, basically backing up a bit is 55 00:04:29,439 --> 00:04:33,079 one day I was sitting there on the field and I looked across and I 56 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,720 saw a guy dressed as a monk in the middle of the field, and 57 00:04:36,759 --> 00:04:39,800 I wondered what it was. I was like, you know, I just 58 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:43,319 thought it was some crazy guy standing in the middle of the field, and 59 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,560 so I started shouting abuse at him for a while and then that he didn't 60 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,439 have any sort of reaction. So I pulled out my laser pointer and I 61 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:55,160 put a laser right on his face or where his face would be. And 62 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,040 what it was it was like, it looked like a monk with his hood 63 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:00,639 up and a completely black face. So I put the laser right in his 64 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,639 face and it kind of reflected, but you couldn't see anything. It was 65 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:09,439 just like a big black mass, and that kind of, you know, 66 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:12,759 interests me a bit. So I just got up and started walking towards it 67 00:05:13,079 --> 00:05:15,759 because I actually just thought it was someone had dumped like a statue in the 68 00:05:15,759 --> 00:05:20,120 middle of the field, and I got within about fifteen feet of it something 69 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:24,800 like that, and it just disappeared in front of me. And I've never 70 00:05:24,879 --> 00:05:27,519 seen anything like that before, so I kind of like, that's kind of 71 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:29,160 like woke me up a bit, and I was thinking, Oh, that's 72 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:33,800 that's interesting, you know. And then I basically I said to the local 73 00:05:33,879 --> 00:05:39,439 villages in the local pub and I said to them like a week later, 74 00:05:39,639 --> 00:05:43,360 I just said, I think I saw like a look like a monk across 75 00:05:43,399 --> 00:05:46,319 the field or something, you know, and they go, oh, yeah, 76 00:05:46,319 --> 00:05:49,480 that's the mad monk he haunts here. And I was like, what's 77 00:05:49,519 --> 00:05:54,360 that? You know? So I never said that before, and and that 78 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,399 kind of got me into it. I was like, well, you know, 79 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:01,879 normally, normally people dismissed ghosts and stuff, but when you actually see 80 00:06:01,879 --> 00:06:04,399 it for a long period of time with your own eyes, and also you 81 00:06:04,439 --> 00:06:09,079 shine lasers on it and stuff like that, that's when it kind of gets 82 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:14,040 interesting. And that's what that will put me into it. And basically, 83 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:19,399 yeah, so fast forward a bit longer, is is my background is well 84 00:06:19,759 --> 00:06:25,120 too. So after that I basically started watching all the paranormal TV shows, 85 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:30,399 everything from the US and here in the UK for years, but nothing really 86 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:32,879 jelled with me. It all just didn't make sense to me. You know, 87 00:06:33,319 --> 00:06:36,800 they say, like a spirit came back from the dead, or a 88 00:06:36,879 --> 00:06:41,000 guy from four hundred years ago it was haunting the place or something like that, 89 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,480 and none of none of it really jelled with me. None of it 90 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:46,199 made any sense, and it kept on bugging me for a long time. 91 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:54,680 So eventually, I think it was in twenty fourteen twenty fifteen, I decided 92 00:06:54,720 --> 00:06:57,279 to really make a go of it and see if I could figure it out. 93 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:02,160 So basically my job is, I'm a data based guy. I work 94 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:10,759 in processes and reverse engineering. So how that generally works is is a developer 95 00:07:10,759 --> 00:07:13,720 will turn up for the company, develop a load of good stuff and then 96 00:07:13,759 --> 00:07:16,639 you will leave and no one knows how it works, so someone like me 97 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:19,879 would have to come along and figure it all out and document it so the 98 00:07:19,879 --> 00:07:24,800 company can then replicate it or modify it or do whatever. And this is 99 00:07:24,839 --> 00:07:27,560 this is nothing special in it. This is what a lot of people do. 100 00:07:27,959 --> 00:07:30,040 The only difference is is that I use the same kind of men, 101 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:35,680 the same thought process on the paranormal and that's what I That's what I did. 102 00:07:36,839 --> 00:07:42,319 So I basically rented out a place called thirty ye s Drive, which 103 00:07:42,439 --> 00:07:46,879 is said to be the most violent portly guist in the UK, because I 104 00:07:46,879 --> 00:07:50,319 wanted to figure out what portly guys were to start, you know, And 105 00:07:51,399 --> 00:07:55,399 so I did, and I stayed there for quite a while, and I 106 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,160 was in there and I had some ideas, but none of it really made 107 00:07:59,199 --> 00:08:01,079 sense. And after a few couple couple of days I've been in there, 108 00:08:01,079 --> 00:08:05,279 all my theories were completely trashed. So I was like, I had to 109 00:08:05,319 --> 00:08:09,240 start from from scratch again. But what I had the whole thing filmed, 110 00:08:09,800 --> 00:08:13,879 and I noticed that I finally got I finally got holders image. And when 111 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,800 I looked at it and I put it through some imaging software, he came 112 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,360 out as a small silver ball and I was like, that looks familiar, 113 00:08:20,439 --> 00:08:24,439 and I realized that that's the same thing as I used to see growing up 114 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:31,399 flying over my village. And then once I saw this small silver seer in 115 00:08:31,439 --> 00:08:35,639 the in the building, I looked at its behavior patterns, and then I 116 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:39,879 realized that the behavior patterns in the in these haunted houses aren't human as all, 117 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:46,240 that they're actually process driven. It's computer like. So the same thing 118 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:50,320 he was happening each time the same door keep banging. You'll see the same 119 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,399 processes replicating around around the world. And when I when I saw that, 120 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:58,279 it was like, okay, so what's going on there? You know? 121 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:03,240 And then I lie after a little bit of study that it's the same technology 122 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:09,000 that the pilots saw during World War Two, which was the Foo Fighters. 123 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,600 And then I realized after a bit more digging that there's three variants of the 124 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:16,320 food fighters. There's Type one, two, and three, which how I 125 00:09:16,399 --> 00:09:22,679 describe it. So the Type ones operate a hundred thousand feet that's seen from 126 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,120 the ISS, that's seen from the by the US Navy. Currently, they're 127 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:31,120 seen by commercial airliners. They're seen all over the place, and they're operating 128 00:09:31,159 --> 00:09:37,399 swarms in clusters. And what they do is they intercept external groups and interests. 129 00:09:37,919 --> 00:09:43,720 So the intercepts m other UFOs, other other flying sources of the other 130 00:09:43,759 --> 00:09:50,120 craft. And how they do this is through a particular type of mechanism So 131 00:09:50,279 --> 00:09:52,080 what happens is is that there's three types. You have Type one, two, 132 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:56,159 and three. That the type ones obviously there. The Type twos are 133 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:01,200 smaller. They're about the size of a football or yeah, about a football, 134 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,360 like the bet sphere was that that was the Type two. And what 135 00:10:05,399 --> 00:10:11,240 they do is they operate in areas such as woodlands or areas of harsh environments, 136 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:16,440 so up mountains, woodlands, jungle, middle of the ocean kind of 137 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,759 thing. And then you have to Type threes, which are the smaller variants 138 00:10:20,279 --> 00:10:24,720 and then about the size of a baseball, and they operate in buildings and 139 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:30,559 they are the cause of politic eis activity. So how it works is when 140 00:10:31,039 --> 00:10:33,600 the type ones are up up in the atmosphere and they detect something in the 141 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,720 atmosphere, they can't signal each other because if they do, the one in 142 00:10:37,759 --> 00:10:41,559 the middle will detect them. So what they do is they do a signal 143 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:46,360 redirect downside the ground. And so what they do is that they signal down 144 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,679 to the Type threes and buildings. The type tree will come on line and 145 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,679 then what will happen is it will start emitting gamma rays and microwaves, and 146 00:10:54,759 --> 00:10:58,240 that's why people start feeling sick and they start fainting. In hounded houses, 147 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:03,120 they get headache and they feel nauseous. Because it's low level radiation poisoning, 148 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:09,440 they use a thing for burst relaying protocol. So if you if you if 149 00:11:09,519 --> 00:11:13,200 you look at all the haunted houses in the UK and map them, you'll 150 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,360 notice that they operating lines and clusters, which means that it mimics are very 151 00:11:16,399 --> 00:11:22,399 similar to our own microwave based communication networks. So what they do is they 152 00:11:22,399 --> 00:11:24,960 signal down and signal back up again, and then what happens is once that 153 00:11:26,159 --> 00:11:30,679 data link is established, they can then triangulate on the objects surround it and 154 00:11:30,759 --> 00:11:35,559 intercept it before being detected. And then once the whole process is up and 155 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:43,799 done, you'll then shut down. So but while this transmissions occurring, because 156 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,879 of the high energy emissions, it will cause diversions to move people away, 157 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:52,480 so you'll bang the door downstairs like in thirty Ye Strive. The Type three 158 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,120 is operating in the attic and what it does it bangs the coalshed door downstairs, 159 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:01,159 so everybody in the house rushes down to the culture door. But if 160 00:12:01,159 --> 00:12:03,159 you actually look at the map of the house, it's actually the most shielded 161 00:12:03,159 --> 00:12:07,919 part of the house. So if you're emitting gamma raysing and microwaves, it's 162 00:12:07,919 --> 00:12:11,720 the most safest part of the buildings be in because the walls would absorble or 163 00:12:11,759 --> 00:12:15,279 the emissions. So what they've tried to do is is that they move people 164 00:12:15,279 --> 00:12:18,679 away from HIG energy emissions. And this behavior is replicated time and time again 165 00:12:20,080 --> 00:12:26,159 in all these haunted houses and all these footage is where people have been dragged 166 00:12:26,159 --> 00:12:31,799 away or been held in positions, and it's because they're trying to keep people 167 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:37,919 out of the way of HIG energy emissions. It's that simple. So why 168 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:43,879 poltyguis activity is so intermittent because it's the transponder. It comes online, does 169 00:12:43,919 --> 00:12:46,840 its thing and then shuts down. So something will happen on a Monday, 170 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,960 and then nothing for a week, and then it will happen again. It 171 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:54,320 doesn't matter what you do, or what you say, or how much you 172 00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:58,000 coax it, nothing will happen until it comes online again. And that's what's 173 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:07,000 happened. This has actually been proven recently by one of Brandon's Brandon's Guy's, 174 00:13:07,039 --> 00:13:11,960 a guy called Jim. He put a load of gamma ray and and microwave 175 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:18,519 detectors in basically what haunted buildings and guess what he detected gamma ray and microwave 176 00:13:18,639 --> 00:13:24,519 first. Are you talking about Grinn Walker, he's one of his one of 177 00:13:24,519 --> 00:13:28,120 his guys. I think it's something to do the basins one of one of 178 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,879 those buildings. But he put a load of senses in a group of buildings 179 00:13:31,879 --> 00:13:37,519 and he was picking up gamma ray and microwave firsts, which is exactly how 180 00:13:37,519 --> 00:13:43,399 I modeled it. Now, when you were talking about the triangulation and the 181 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:48,120 orbs and all that, you seem pretty confident that you that this is what 182 00:13:48,279 --> 00:13:52,200 is happening. How do you how do you know this is what's really happening, 183 00:13:52,759 --> 00:13:56,679 because there's video of it, There's there's images from it from the Pentagon 184 00:13:58,519 --> 00:14:03,519 as images from nineteen fifties. All you have to do is get the image 185 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:07,240 and boost it up a little bit with contrast and low down the the the 186 00:14:07,279 --> 00:14:11,039 brightness and you can see them. And it's the same process every time. 187 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:18,799 So you had some of these things on your Facebook pages, that is that? 188 00:14:18,639 --> 00:14:26,360 Is that what you're talking aboutout M and I can actually share that um, 189 00:14:28,039 --> 00:14:33,759 but before I do that, I should ask our other guests. Steve, 190 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:41,000 basically, what what got you interested in this topic to begin with? 191 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:45,320 And how did you connect with Patrick? Well, I've always been interested in 192 00:14:45,399 --> 00:14:50,480 the topic, and um, I got into you being a UFO an abduction 193 00:14:50,519 --> 00:14:56,279 researcher in a major way about um around uh two thousand and eight, when 194 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:05,440 I'm an experiencer myself and the aliens put out an implant in my left second 195 00:15:05,519 --> 00:15:09,600 toe, and I went to talk to doctor lear about it and we ended 196 00:15:09,679 --> 00:15:13,440 up becoming partners, and he took the object out and I analyzed it with 197 00:15:13,559 --> 00:15:18,039 some state of the art instrumentation I had at my work at that time. 198 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:28,679 And so I've been a researcher of the subject ever since. And I heard 199 00:15:28,679 --> 00:15:31,360 about Patrick's work and thought it was very interesting, and he asked me to 200 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:37,480 work with him on it. And Steve sorry, and Steve actually, um, 201 00:15:37,879 --> 00:15:41,879 he did a material analysis someone to the sea as a crash few years 202 00:15:41,919 --> 00:15:46,360 ago. Yeah, I've yeah, I've got an analysis of several implants of 203 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:50,519 doctor Learr removed from his patients, including my own. And I have a 204 00:15:50,519 --> 00:15:58,240 piece of a sphere that Patrick's calling a type one that crashed in Mexico back 205 00:15:58,279 --> 00:16:03,720 around around and two thousand that Hommy Masson got a hold of and it turned 206 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,519 out to be a very interesting piece of technology. It's a it's an titanium 207 00:16:07,519 --> 00:16:14,799 alloy, but it's got nano materials embedded in the metal, including carbon nanotubes, 208 00:16:15,559 --> 00:16:19,799 and it also had voids deliberately introduced into the metal to lower the density. 209 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,039 And it's incredibly strong stuff. It was very hard to cut, and 210 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,840 the only reason I was be able to cut a piece off, I think 211 00:16:25,919 --> 00:16:30,159 is because parts of it were damaged by heat from the crash. It apparently 212 00:16:30,159 --> 00:16:33,480 had an electromendet field around it that was really strong, and it collapsed when 213 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:37,559 the when the object crashed, and most of the heat was dumped into the 214 00:16:37,559 --> 00:16:41,320 poles of the sphere and vaporized some of the metal, and the area around 215 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,919 the areas that were vaporized were damaged by heat and lowered the strength a bit. 216 00:16:45,399 --> 00:16:52,879 So I was able to get a piece off for analysis. And Massan 217 00:16:52,039 --> 00:16:57,399 said that the rancher that that witnessed a crash that it killed a cow hundred 218 00:16:57,519 --> 00:17:02,720 blast killed a cow hundred meters away. So there's an incredible amount of energy 219 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:07,519 in these things when they're charged up and flying. U is any of those 220 00:17:07,799 --> 00:17:14,759 the images of what you're talking about in on the Facebook page available to to 221 00:17:14,799 --> 00:17:18,960 see. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I can. I have the 222 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:25,279 report on the the object and you're welcome to have a copy. Yeah, 223 00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:30,359 that's on the Facebook page as well. And as far as UH, you 224 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,720 know, you you talk about this crashed piece and all that, and also 225 00:17:34,039 --> 00:17:38,880 you're the topic has come up come up on this show before with what happened 226 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:45,920 to Roger Lear's you know, implants that he removed supposedly removed and where are 227 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:49,720 they now are and what type of testing has been done on them? You're 228 00:17:49,759 --> 00:17:56,640 familiar with all that. Oh, yeah, I've I've analyzed I've analyzed five 229 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:03,319 of the objects and and what what do you know about them? They're sophisticated 230 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:07,880 pieces of nanotechnology. They're they're a lot like the like the sphere sample. 231 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:15,519 They have their their metal with UM with nanotechnology built into the metal and UH 232 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:21,160 they give off radio frequencies and they're self powering. Apparently they connect to the 233 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:26,519 nervous system they have They have UM UH apparently enzymes in the enzyme or some 234 00:18:26,599 --> 00:18:32,680 chemical Q and the surface of the metal that allows UH or causes UH appropriate 235 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:37,240 sceptor nerves to grow into the objects and they develop a very tough m outer 236 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:45,240 membrane um that apparently access the interface between the electronics and the device and the 237 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:51,519 nervous system. And they're, in my opinion, way beyond our cilian technology 238 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:59,119 right now. They're also made a meteoric iron or all the ones I've analyzed 239 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,200 to have a certain percent mediorc irons, some are pure mediac irons, some 240 00:19:02,319 --> 00:19:08,759 are percentage and the planet apparently Well yeah, I mean I've I've heard of 241 00:19:08,759 --> 00:19:12,640 these things, but I've never really seen, um, you know, any 242 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:17,400 reports on them or anything like that. So is there anything here we can 243 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,720 take a look at that in particular. Either one of you can answer. 244 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:26,960 I don't know if there's I'm just scolling through all these images. So if 245 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:30,559 you stopped there and see the one second from the left, second from the 246 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,160 left, hang on them. Let me see if I can. Are you 247 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:38,759 talking about this one right here with a bunch of images. That's the one 248 00:19:38,759 --> 00:19:42,039 in the thirty drive. That's the type three. It's by the size of 249 00:19:42,079 --> 00:19:48,119 a of a baseball. There's a lower picture there and that's the same thing 250 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:52,160 in the field which will take great crop circles. Oh, yes, that's 251 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,400 one I've seen. That's one on the next to it on the right. 252 00:19:59,319 --> 00:20:02,079 This one is something to do with, um, the one that went into 253 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:06,000 the water off of the Olmaha something like that. Yeah, it's the same 254 00:20:06,079 --> 00:20:08,960 objects you just saw. Um it's a Type three. So it's hopely next 255 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:18,880 next to the ship. Okay, and let's see. So I'm just scrolling 256 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:25,880 through these and taking a look, and it looks like, well, there's 257 00:20:25,880 --> 00:20:29,119 a lot of images, but I too did see a couple of things of 258 00:20:29,279 --> 00:20:32,519 that I recognize. I just I just saw the sphere that I got a 259 00:20:32,559 --> 00:20:37,000 sample of down below. Okay, tell me where where I go? Keep 260 00:20:37,039 --> 00:20:41,119 going? Yeah, and I will have this in the show notes for those 261 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:47,119 of you that are listening to this in audio. I keep going, keep 262 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:52,200 going. Okay, Uh, thanks for going. It's almost there. I 263 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,400 think there it is there. It is the gray metal sphere, this metal 264 00:20:56,440 --> 00:21:00,160 sphere right here. Yes, I still want to have a sample of. 265 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:08,079 And where where was that found? That was found about one hundred miles south 266 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:12,440 of the US border? Um Uh, closest to US town is Brownsville, 267 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:18,000 Texas, on the east coast of Mexico. Okay. And now if you 268 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:21,920 if you go up, you'll see them SIOD analysis of that if you go, 269 00:21:22,039 --> 00:21:27,160 keep going up and go to the features. Tap well the way. 270 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,599 But I'm wondering why you have this da Vinci painting here. So the sea 271 00:21:33,759 --> 00:21:38,119 is if you look at them, say the second image from the left on 272 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:42,359 the you see the seas would up up, up up up this one right 273 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:48,079 here? Yeah. Can I control the mouse? It's all I'm here you're 274 00:21:48,079 --> 00:21:52,640 talking about. Uh no, no, no, can I control the mouse? 275 00:21:52,000 --> 00:22:00,440 Oh? Unfortunately not? Okay, So if you go, if you 276 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,960 if you go up up a bit, ye, see the one on the 277 00:22:04,039 --> 00:22:08,039 left next to note down a bit, you see the one where you see 278 00:22:08,079 --> 00:22:15,359 the flying sauce top left. Okay, this one you're talking about right here. 279 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,000 One. Yeah, So what you see is the is the three cs 280 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:22,000 surrounding it like this, And this is a t This is a triangulation process. 281 00:22:22,039 --> 00:22:26,519 So what happens is is it in this in this configuration, the craft 282 00:22:26,559 --> 00:22:30,359 has nowhere to go because it can't get away in this Once once this information, 283 00:22:32,319 --> 00:22:36,720 this can't escape weapons lock. So basically these will surround it and then 284 00:22:37,079 --> 00:22:41,759 fireAll at once and the craft will be atomized. And then if you close 285 00:22:41,839 --> 00:22:47,559 this one, some some UFOs are presumably blinding to a different species actually launched. 286 00:22:47,599 --> 00:22:52,039 These These are orbs too. Yeah, and also honey Massana's film of 287 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:59,880 hundreds of these type one orbs dyking with snake like uh basis or whatever you 288 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,440 want to call it at about one hundred thousand feet alp to you and so 289 00:23:02,519 --> 00:23:04,960 high up you can't see him from the ground. Yah, stop the down, 290 00:23:06,039 --> 00:23:10,920 go back down. I'm just I'm just looking real quickly here and I 291 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:15,920 will because these right here, I wanted to know what what's what's the story? 292 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,559 Um well if if there's a better picture than that, but in a 293 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:27,079 nutshell, I'll show you close that this one here you see the one next 294 00:23:27,079 --> 00:23:30,960 one the right, that's it. So the top one here is the one 295 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,640 in thirty year strive. It's the type three which by the side of the 296 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,759 baseball. This one here's a bet sphere. The one below, the one 297 00:23:37,759 --> 00:23:41,480 below that is a one Steve tested. And this one here setting out set 298 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:47,519 outside the Vatican. So it appears it appears that, I mean, this 299 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,960 is a sculpture and he appears to be the same thing as a sphere as 300 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:56,359 we are we're testing on Oh I see, yeah, these are these all 301 00:23:56,519 --> 00:24:02,240 here are in Italian sculpture sculptures that's right. Yeah, the one I analyze 302 00:24:02,319 --> 00:24:06,240 is titanium alloy with a lot of nanotechnology and at the bets fired or some 303 00:24:06,279 --> 00:24:11,960 other very high density material. Yeah, okay, And and I just I 304 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:15,680 did ask, what why do you have this particular painting? So if you 305 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,279 look in if you look in the series holding in his hand, right, 306 00:24:19,599 --> 00:24:23,279 you'll see the three lights. Yeah, that's that's a reflection. And by 307 00:24:23,319 --> 00:24:27,640 the way, that's this painting was eighty three percent restored. So everything you 308 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:32,759 see in this painting, over eighty percent of it is new paint. Um. 309 00:24:32,839 --> 00:24:36,000 Yeah, I know who the restorer was and everything. But if you 310 00:24:36,039 --> 00:24:40,960 look at the next image alone, it met that configuration of the lights that 311 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:45,079 one there, this one here, one there. Yeah, that's the intercept 312 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:49,880 process. That's what they look like when they're intercepting other targets, which looks 313 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:56,119 exactly the same with what's in the what's in the ball. I see the 314 00:24:56,160 --> 00:25:02,839 reflection of the bob but that yeah, well okay, similar Yeah, all 315 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:04,839 right, so anyway we can get back to I see, you have a 316 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:11,519 lot of things that look pretty familiar through here, different ones that I've seen. 317 00:25:11,599 --> 00:25:15,079 But what is in particular, what is this right here that's another one, 318 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:19,319 another sample that we're testing the count talk too much about that one. 319 00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,359 There's there's a lot of stuff going on with that in the background, but 320 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:27,759 that's that's actually one of the intact and it's still semi active. So you're 321 00:25:27,799 --> 00:25:33,119 saying that this, Well, let's get back to um steve. What you 322 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:38,799 said that you took a piece of and how how did you take how did 323 00:25:38,839 --> 00:25:41,519 you actually remove a piece from this? And why didn't you just take the 324 00:25:41,559 --> 00:25:45,079 whole thing? Well, it belongs to I'm a massan. He didn't want 325 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,119 it. He didn't want to part with the whole thing, but he can 326 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:53,559 sent it to give me a piece for analysis and a colleague and I cut 327 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:59,319 a piece off of it with a damel motor tool with a silicon carbide disk, 328 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,680 and I don't think that even would have scratched it if it hadn't been 329 00:26:03,759 --> 00:26:07,200 damaged by heat. Though the edges of the metal around there were where I 330 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,319 took the sample, and those are definitely damaged by heat. The rest of 331 00:26:11,319 --> 00:26:15,880 the metal, i'd estimate was at least three or four time stronger than that 332 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:22,559 area. It was so strong that carbide would barely scratch it. And we 333 00:26:22,599 --> 00:26:30,480 actually had another an implant from patient sixteen and doctor Lear's project that was made 334 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,720 of a material that was an iron alloy reinforced the carbon downo tubes that was 335 00:26:34,759 --> 00:26:37,640 so strong that even diamond tools wouldn't cut it. We had to use a 336 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:45,400 high energy laser to cut it in half or analysis. Oh that's interesting, 337 00:26:45,759 --> 00:26:49,279 So so what'd you take? It? Just seems to me like a couple 338 00:26:49,279 --> 00:26:53,359 of different things. And I want to ask you maybe I'll start with you 339 00:26:53,599 --> 00:27:00,039 Patrick on this. So the the sphere that I brought up just what I 340 00:27:00,039 --> 00:27:04,400 don't know that came went up back. So the sphere that came up that 341 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:08,640 you said you can't talk about, I just head it up. And what 342 00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:14,279 is the particular reason why you can't talk about that? Right now? You 343 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:18,799 say you're doing some work on it? Is there? Yeah, what can 344 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:23,400 you tell us about it? It's the real thing and it's semi active and 345 00:27:23,839 --> 00:27:27,799 semi active what does that mean? It rolls around all day on its side. 346 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:33,920 It's basically the best see a two point note. And so do you 347 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,160 have like if this thing is rolling around, where's it kept? Is it 348 00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:44,720 kept by someone that doesn't want to show it to other people? Or suddenly 349 00:27:44,759 --> 00:27:47,680 like that. Yeah. Yeah, as I say, there's there's a lot 350 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,200 of stuff going on in the background with it, but that that's going to 351 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,519 be coming out in the next few months. Okay, So if this thing 352 00:27:53,720 --> 00:28:00,839 really was some alien type technology, it kind of would put a lot of 353 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,680 things to bed, wouldn't it, you know, as far as the debate 354 00:28:04,039 --> 00:28:08,480 of things coming here or not and all that. I mean, this seems 355 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:15,039 like it could be something really major if this was the case, and change 356 00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:18,319 everything if this was the case. And so I guess a couple of questions 357 00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:25,559 I have for you, is it's not in government hands right? No? 358 00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:32,400 And is there is this person working exclusively with anyone that can get the word 359 00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:38,079 out there if the thing really ends up being something spectacular? Yeah, they're 360 00:28:38,079 --> 00:28:42,240 working with me. So if I have exclusive access to it? And how 361 00:28:42,279 --> 00:28:47,160 would you like if all right, let's just say, let's just run a 362 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:53,839 scenario. Let's say this thing did incredible things. It would it was intelligent 363 00:28:56,119 --> 00:29:02,440 and could maneuver on its own or whatever, and you actually have it captured 364 00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:07,880 and wherever it is and it's not going to get away, how would you 365 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,160 get the word out? Who would you get the word out too? If 366 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,000 this is the case, if this thing somehow seemed to be off planet and 367 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,640 off planet type of thing, how would you get the word out there to 368 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,920 the world the media. There's there's a lot, there's quite a few media 369 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,400 who are interested in this worthy And how long has this thing been known about? 370 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:33,599 And what country is it in? It's been learning about for a little 371 00:29:33,599 --> 00:29:37,359 while, but I can't say where it is. How as I say, 372 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,480 you will find out sitting because it's it's just it's in progress, So you'll 373 00:29:41,519 --> 00:29:47,359 find out sitting, all right, And can you tell me what type of 374 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:52,160 US science is there? Would there be access like for instance, if we 375 00:29:52,279 --> 00:29:55,640 talked off air and I said, hey, look I've got this great scientist 376 00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:02,599 guy that works with metal and metallurgy and all that, and because I actually 377 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,799 do have access to some some people like this that would be very interested. 378 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:12,440 Is this something that could be observed by someone in the science field. Yes, 379 00:30:12,519 --> 00:30:17,720 and that's been arranged. Yeah, it could be arranged. No, 380 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:22,200 it's being arranged. It is being arranged. Huh okay, um, all 381 00:30:22,279 --> 00:30:27,799 right, well I'd be interested to know more about that as as of course, 382 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:32,000 you know, anytime you say you can't talk about something, that's all 383 00:30:32,039 --> 00:30:34,799 the email you're going to get and myself is okay. Everyone wants to know 384 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,599 why you can't talk about it and what is it? Well, that's the 385 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,640 way it works. Yeah, I'm afraid that's where it works. Is if 386 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:45,920 you want something properly tested, it has to be done quietly. You can't 387 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:49,960 be done really in the media. Now have you physically seen this yourself or 388 00:30:51,119 --> 00:30:53,599 have you seen it? You have physically seen this, Yeah, And in 389 00:30:53,680 --> 00:31:00,720 fact, I've seen in the front of my research um in buildings, personally 390 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,960 outside, so I've seen quite a few. There are several crash spears that 391 00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:11,680 are in private hands right now that might be bought for the right price as 392 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:15,359 well. Here. Yeah, well hey, look, if something was could 393 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:21,640 be proven that it was off planet, their price could be whatever someone puts 394 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:26,599 on it, you know that, because that would change everything. So I 395 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,519 guess I would like to say to you if that's so, is that something 396 00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:33,839 you know the whereabouts and all that? Yeah, I know where it is. 397 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:41,160 Yeah? Is it for sale? No? Yeah, but I'm talking 398 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,440 to you, Stephen. You say you know where these things are? You 399 00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:48,599 know where some things are, or you just I used to know her A 400 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,359 couple of them are I could find out again if they're still available. But 401 00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:59,319 they apparently fall out of the sky on a fairly regular basis. And I 402 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,440 have reasonable at least two or three or in private hands besides the one that 403 00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:08,200 Patrick is talking about. Okay, here's a question here. Uh, Mary 404 00:32:08,279 --> 00:32:14,200 Grace wants to know. Do these Does the active sphere make any sound? 405 00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:21,160 No? But it does vibrate a lot. It vibrates and and uh, 406 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,200 all right, so I saw when I showed the picture of it, I 407 00:32:24,319 --> 00:32:29,240 showed it being on a stand, and uh, let me see if I 408 00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:32,680 can bring that back up. I saw it being in a stand. When 409 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:37,440 you when the thing is put on the on the ground, this isn't the 410 00:32:37,599 --> 00:32:40,960 thing anyway here. But when it's put on the ground, does it supposedly 411 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:47,079 do anything that one does? Not that one that's not active anymore? No, 412 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:51,240 I'm sorry, I'm meant to put up the other one. Um so 413 00:32:51,359 --> 00:32:53,440 when this other one, when I find it, when that one is uh, 414 00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:58,200 it's it's on something. It looks like a plant holder or something, 415 00:32:58,279 --> 00:33:00,759 a plant pot holder. When it's put on the ground, what happens? 416 00:33:01,599 --> 00:33:07,720 It rolls around all day? This right here, it rolls around all day? 417 00:33:07,799 --> 00:33:12,519 And what about um? Any readings off of it on the outside. 418 00:33:13,279 --> 00:33:21,319 Yeah, it makes gama rays. It's gamma rays. Huh dangerous, is 419 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,640 not dangerous, but it's much high than background radiation. Okay, Um, 420 00:33:25,759 --> 00:33:30,319 any any other type of readings. Um, this is what it might be. 421 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:32,799 Microwaves coming from it. But we need to be more testing on this 422 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:37,160 one, and that's what we're setting up seeing all right. I'd be surprised 423 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:43,559 if it's not giving off microwaves and our f at some level. Probably something 424 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,640 like this you would expect if it flew at one time, it would fly 425 00:33:46,759 --> 00:33:52,400 again. The thing just sits there on that stand. Well, the thing 426 00:33:52,519 --> 00:33:57,839 is is it? Um? This one is not damaged. It appears it's 427 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,279 just not online. So technically, with the right signal, they could come 428 00:34:01,319 --> 00:34:07,519 back online. Okay Um. Maybe maybe the aliens are just allowing them to 429 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:13,599 possess it for for a while for some reason best known to themselves. And 430 00:34:14,039 --> 00:34:16,639 I would think so, Steve, you you pretty much think that whatever this 431 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:24,159 is is aliens most likely? And what are your thoughts as well? Patrick? 432 00:34:25,159 --> 00:34:30,719 Oh? It's completely yeah, completely that The abilities that the ones that 433 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,880 hut in the buildings are is amazing. They can perform a thing called content 434 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,280 tunneling, which was witnessed during World War Two. So what happened is is 435 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,840 that because the air crews saw the bigger variance of these during World War two, 436 00:34:44,599 --> 00:34:46,880 and they used to appear outside the aircraft and then fly inside the aircraft 437 00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:52,000 and then they go right through laws. Yeah, they go right through the 438 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,840 walls called content tunneling, and that's what they could perform, and that's we 439 00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:01,000 can only do that on a small scale in the lab. These things can 440 00:35:01,079 --> 00:35:06,079 have perfected it, and they can they as I said, the operating buildings, 441 00:35:06,119 --> 00:35:12,159 they can pass through pretty much anything. They won't John Hudginson and John 442 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,320 Hudgerson and a lot of his experiments have seen the effect, and I would 443 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:22,960 imagine the government's seeing it extensively in their labs. But they've perfected the technology 444 00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:30,039 aliens. That is a lot of times I've seen like light orbs, or 445 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:35,280 people talk about light orbs, but I'm hearing you talk quite a bit about 446 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:40,840 the silver metallic type. How often are people I don't know myself, I 447 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,559 guess I'm asking the question is how often are people to people seem to be 448 00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:51,159 talking about these So the light is a byproduct of the propostion system. It's 449 00:35:51,199 --> 00:35:53,719 like where you have the high energy, high energy passing you over the shell, 450 00:35:54,320 --> 00:36:00,920 which is interesting with our gas environment basically creating foes. It stimulates the 451 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:05,519 gas molecules creating photons, which is light, which is the same process of 452 00:36:05,639 --> 00:36:08,719 that of lightning. So they're dening on how high how high the driver is 453 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:14,119 energy. Is it neither look metallic or can glow red or orange or yellow 454 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:19,039 or depending on depending on the frequency and the gases is passing through at the 455 00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:22,920 time, it will look different colors, but all the stomic colors. And 456 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:32,400 so are you saying like I've heard people suggest that certain vibration things can possibly 457 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:37,239 go through walls things like that. So is that kind of along the same 458 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:44,519 line as which what you're talking about, Like it's a frequency vibration. No, 459 00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:50,280 a very particular process is I don't think it thing to do with vibrations. 460 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:54,119 It's a very particular atomic process. I'm not sure the details of how 461 00:36:54,159 --> 00:36:59,840 to do it, but it's probably a combination of very high electric fields and 462 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:05,159 certain frequencies as well that cause it to do that. Um, the atoms, 463 00:37:05,199 --> 00:37:07,320 I think you're being moved aside slightly in forest space and it renders the 464 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:14,440 material, uh kind of porous or like a viscous liquid in our in our 465 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:21,360 dimension, so that the object can passed through it. Hm hm okay. 466 00:37:21,519 --> 00:37:29,599 Well um. So the thing I guess that I'm uh well interested in the 467 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:35,760 most is that there's some type of object that's in someone's hands. I can't 468 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,159 get that out of my head as we're doing this talk. That um and 469 00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:45,559 that it was. Can you describe how that was found at least and how 470 00:37:45,679 --> 00:37:50,360 this person obtained that and why did he did he see this thing flying and 471 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:57,360 somehow it crashed or what happened. So the story is is that many years 472 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:05,239 ago A Thomas saw a UFO hovering over his property and he scared the family, 473 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,840 say much. They locked themselves in the in the house for two days 474 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:12,000 and when they came out. When they came out, all these silver seas 475 00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:14,800 were all over the property. I think it's like a dozen of them. 476 00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:20,480 So one the farmer gave one of these spears two to the guy I know, 477 00:38:21,559 --> 00:38:25,079 and I think he sold the other ones to the military. So that's 478 00:38:25,119 --> 00:38:29,480 what happened. And basically it's been left in his shed for the last thirty 479 00:38:29,519 --> 00:38:35,599 odd years. He's it's a speculation that he saw them to the military, 480 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,039 or did he say that he saw them to the military. No, it's 481 00:38:38,119 --> 00:38:43,960 it's it's probably a logical conclusion that he did because he came back in a 482 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:49,119 hurry trying to get the one day he gave away. He wanted that one 483 00:38:49,159 --> 00:38:51,960 back, and so the only reason why he would do that is if he 484 00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:57,760 was offered a big price for it. Okay, so we don't know where 485 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:01,480 the other ones, so there was twelve of them? Are h yeah? 486 00:39:02,519 --> 00:39:07,400 Okay? Uh, well, this is all interesting and I guess I would 487 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,840 have to ask you to, you know, please do follow up with me 488 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:16,440 if anything happens along these lines, you know, with this thing being uh, 489 00:39:16,639 --> 00:39:21,639 you know tested and and all that, you know, I mean, 490 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:28,920 it would totally make the difference, uh and basically and what everybody is you 491 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,039 know, the debates out there whether we're being visited visited or not in this 492 00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:37,119 Uh, if this was something that was actually off world and could be proven 493 00:39:37,159 --> 00:39:43,159 it was off world, then you know, you would have um the most 494 00:39:43,679 --> 00:39:49,960 significant find ever by the man. You know, this our species really, 495 00:39:50,199 --> 00:39:52,760 I mean if you think about it, well, according according to what I 496 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,360 can tell, um, the see the type one any skle down to the 497 00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:02,280 type threes when the intercepts occur, which when you look at the actual patterns 498 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:07,039 in the houses, it means that they're coming online at least once or twice 499 00:40:07,079 --> 00:40:09,920 a week, which means that the intercepts are occurring once or twice a week, 500 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:20,760 once or twice a week, and and and where exactly or all over 501 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,400 the world. And let me ask you this, I think of this a 502 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:30,400 lot too. Well, why why us? If there's intelligent life all through 503 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:35,840 the you know, the galaxy, through the universe, why would it bother 504 00:40:36,039 --> 00:40:39,760 with us? If life is everywhere? If that's well, there's a problem. 505 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:44,199 There's a problem in genetic school synergy. Um, I don't know if 506 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:50,119 you're aware of that you, I'm sorry. Synergy there's a prom in genetic 507 00:40:50,159 --> 00:40:54,239 school synergy. So basically what that means is is that what we're seeing currently 508 00:40:54,320 --> 00:41:00,679 in small isolated villages like the villages up the mountains and so forth, when 509 00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:06,239 they all start having children together, like their cousins will have children with the 510 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:10,360 other cousins and so forth, what happens is a single synergy, which basically 511 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:15,239 means is that the genius will get screwed up and you'll have children that will 512 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,159 die at the age of ten years old. They just drop dead, or 513 00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:23,719 they have lots of mental, physical disabilities or problems. It's like what happens 514 00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:28,199 when you when your sister has a baby with a brother, and then what 515 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,559 happens is to the genic pool becomes so small it starts causing lots of errors 516 00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:37,559 to the point where it implodes. So what happens is is mathematically, the 517 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:43,039 problems that we are seeing in currently in small little villages will one day propagate 518 00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:47,159 out to towns and then cities and then countries, and then it'll be global. 519 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:52,000 So the only way you can fix this problem is by going to another 520 00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:57,679 finding another group that's compatible, and then you extract DNA from them to then 521 00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:01,760 insert into your own race to then extend the lifespan of that race. That's 522 00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:05,639 how it works. So the only reason why the other groups are coming, 523 00:42:05,679 --> 00:42:09,639 the only reason why UFOs are coming, is for genetic extraction. And that's 524 00:42:09,679 --> 00:42:14,840 it simple as that. So what do you think they want to do. 525 00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:22,440 They're expecting exactly what they about that they're extracting human DNA. They're incorporating certain 526 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:28,119 characteristics of our race into their own because they realize that by getting rid of 527 00:42:28,559 --> 00:42:31,280 emotions in their race a long time ago. They've limited themselves. There are 528 00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:37,960 certain advantages to at least some individuals in their in their hierarchy, having emotions 529 00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:44,440 and having u reactions to things like humans have. Yeah, in a nutshell, 530 00:42:44,519 --> 00:42:49,480 In a nutshell is the case of they need external DNA in order to 531 00:42:50,039 --> 00:42:54,920 extend the lifespan of their own race, and the same thing that that might 532 00:42:55,039 --> 00:42:58,320 that might be it as well, But now they want they want certain human 533 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,840 characteristics that they did not deserve us at this point. Yeah, maybe that 534 00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:07,480 is a fundamental reason and the same thing will happen to us one day and 535 00:43:07,639 --> 00:43:12,440 we'll have to go out there and do exactly the same thing. What do 536 00:43:12,519 --> 00:43:17,840 you think about There are some theories that say doctor Michael Masters thinks that UFOs 537 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:22,519 could be time travelers. Would that somehow fit in the realm of things with 538 00:43:22,679 --> 00:43:25,079 your thoughts? Well, I don't know about that, And all I know 539 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:31,960 is is that to see is the type ones and are basically intercepting accentable groups 540 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:40,000 and interests on a regular basis. Okay, I know the aliens have time 541 00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:44,079 travel. It's part It's possible that some of the aliens that we see our 542 00:43:44,159 --> 00:43:49,960 time travelers, but I don't think most of them are myself. Yeah. 543 00:43:50,559 --> 00:43:54,880 Well, another another thought comes up a lot, and that is that whatever 544 00:43:54,960 --> 00:44:00,920 it is that everybody is seeing there could be could be multiple theory, So 545 00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:07,280 multiple things happening, not just one particular thing. So what what's your thoughts 546 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,880 on that? Patrick? In general? Well, from a ninety point of 547 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:14,000 view, from a logic point of view, I ain't seen the same patterns 548 00:44:14,039 --> 00:44:17,079 occur and again and again all around the world. The same seas set up 549 00:44:17,159 --> 00:44:21,199 the same way, and they all point in the same direction, and they 550 00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,159 all and even over skim Walker as well. In fact, there's images of 551 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,639 them being deployed from skim Walker and then in the distance you see a smoke 552 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:35,000 trail of one when how they've intercepted them and brought them down. I had 553 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:45,119 what I'd consider a very strange like poltergeist situation happened, and I saw it 554 00:44:45,199 --> 00:44:50,000 all firsthand. Now I didn't see anything right in front of my eyes, 555 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,920 but what I did was, you know, I walked out into a hallway 556 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:58,840 and a bedroom door closet door slam shot with all the windows down, and 557 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:04,000 the carpet was you had to drag the door across the carpet. Um, 558 00:45:04,199 --> 00:45:07,119 so it was. It wasn't a door that would shut for any reason at 559 00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:09,920 all. You have to really force it to close. And then a broom 560 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:15,360 stood up. Um, I didn't see it happened, but the front door 561 00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,480 slammed in a broom that I had slid down the stairway earlier stood up against 562 00:45:19,519 --> 00:45:23,599 it, and things like that were all happening. That was not the basement 563 00:45:23,679 --> 00:45:29,360 that was down in the front entryway, But I had three different things happened. 564 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,559 In a basket um adhered itself to a floor cement floor and broken half 565 00:45:32,599 --> 00:45:36,559 when I picked went to pick it up, and it was freely sitting there. 566 00:45:37,039 --> 00:45:39,840 So how these weird things happening? Um, So I guess I'm going 567 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:51,039 to ask you how how would that work? Network? Which means it can 568 00:45:51,079 --> 00:45:53,639 move around to his knees, so in some cases, well generally he stays 569 00:45:53,639 --> 00:45:57,440 to the same areas, but it can also move around. So if it 570 00:45:57,559 --> 00:46:00,480 needs to be in an area which is uncovered, temporarily going into that into 571 00:46:00,559 --> 00:46:04,599 that building, and then when it's in that building, it will do it 572 00:46:04,599 --> 00:46:07,280 will start emission, It'll start causing emissions, and then it will start causing 573 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:12,159 diversions to hold you in place or put you in a certain area while that's 574 00:46:12,159 --> 00:46:15,079 occurring. And in your case, it's probably operating in the attic, so 575 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:21,440 it kept you, it kept you busy downstairs while it was broadcasting. So 576 00:46:21,639 --> 00:46:25,039 it's kind of like you think, like it's keeping me away from an area 577 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:29,440 or something like that. Is that it's an alignment with the inverse square law 578 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:34,840 of radiation. So basically the sphere itself is emitting radiation, so it's keeping 579 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,000 you at a distance, which is keeping you safe. So you actually think 580 00:46:37,039 --> 00:46:43,920 there was a sphere somewhere in that in that property. That's right. Yeah, 581 00:46:44,079 --> 00:46:47,000 I never I never saw anything like that, and but I do know 582 00:46:47,159 --> 00:46:51,639 one thing is that it really did happen and scared the heck out of me. 583 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,639 You haven't reseeing the gym as well. There's a video on Twitter or 584 00:46:54,639 --> 00:47:00,679 of it happening in a gym where obviously the network had moved into a gym 585 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,119 and they actually dragged the guy out of the way. It dragged them away 586 00:47:04,119 --> 00:47:07,800 through the wall and held them there for a few seconds while the broadcast was 587 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:12,400 occurring, and thence once the broadcast is done, then let them go. 588 00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,639 Also, it's not unusual for you not to see anything when UFOs are around. 589 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:20,519 When they're seeing these, it's usually because they want to be seen. 590 00:47:21,079 --> 00:47:23,880 They can cloak in several different ways. They can control your mind if you 591 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:29,679 just don't notice them. They can they can physically cloak, and they can 592 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:34,360 appear as different objects like aircraft if they want to. You see, digital 593 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,360 stealth isn't hard. It's really not hard. It's just a redirect to photons 594 00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:44,559 and you can control fold photons, gravitational wave or if you can redirect gravity 595 00:47:44,559 --> 00:47:47,519 around the shell, you redirect light so one could be literally in front of 596 00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:52,320 you and you won't see it. Well, I have people think things like 597 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:57,679 you know, they'll they'll see it, it'll blink out and then then it 598 00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:01,360 shows up in another place instantly, or it'll just blink out and it's gone, 599 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:05,360 you know, not like they start shoot off. They just say they 600 00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:07,760 just saw it blink out. It's hard to say what's happening in America. 601 00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:12,480 Could be teleparting, or it could be shooting off so fast that you just 602 00:48:12,519 --> 00:48:16,039 can't see it with your eyes. But there are several explanations for that. 603 00:48:16,639 --> 00:48:21,719 But also with to see is what people see is they'll be in a triangle 604 00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,840 and then they'll disappear and then there'll be in a different area. Now what's 605 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:28,440 happening there? You see when it drops into like a stealth mode, it's 606 00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:32,760 redirecting the gravitation will wave around it. As a result, it can't send 607 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:37,320 to receive signals. So what it does it once it's in this close state 608 00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:42,599 is basically without it's invisible. They can't send to receive signals, so it 609 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,119 goes where it needs to go. Then hoax again. Yeah that makes sense. 610 00:48:47,039 --> 00:48:52,840 Hm, well um, well this is all. This is all really 611 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,760 interesting and you know, but here's another thing. You know, you're talking 612 00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,559 about spheres. You did show like a disk with sphere is around it. 613 00:49:00,639 --> 00:49:05,800 But can we always think that whatever type of objects people talk about, these 614 00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,280 grapeing huge triangles that people are seeing, they talk about all different types of 615 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:15,559 shapes that they're seeing, how would this thing fit in? Are you're just 616 00:49:15,679 --> 00:49:20,440 assuming that there has to be these little spheres around them? What supos appears 617 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:22,840 to be the case. In fact, most of the images that I see 618 00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:30,239 you, if you increase the contrast, you can see them, including in 619 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,559 all the innate US Navy images as well. Do we actually see them in 620 00:49:34,679 --> 00:49:37,320 there? If you yeah, but and are you the only one they're seeing 621 00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:45,760 these or other other people? Everyone who everyone who who looks can see them. 622 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:52,480 I've seen a UFO launch smaller spheres myself, so it's a pretty common 623 00:49:52,519 --> 00:49:59,840 phenomenon, it'd Yeah. I mean I have seen videos that look really interest 624 00:50:00,559 --> 00:50:06,679 where there's spheres dropping out of you know, like you'll see like a light 625 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:12,320 and then spheres dropping down and stuff like that. It is pretty interesting. 626 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:20,639 So I'm not sure if that's you know, where scientifically you seem like you 627 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,760 have like the scientific thought on this. But I mean, is there any 628 00:50:25,079 --> 00:50:34,400 like paper for definitive measuring of these things or anything like that. What in 629 00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:40,360 particular that these are around and their purpose for being there? You can tell 630 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:45,239 by the behavior pans you see in reverse engineering. You what you do is 631 00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:50,639 your observed behavior pans and process and what you observe, and as explained in 632 00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:54,719 my book, is explains that all the processes and behavior pans and the same 633 00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:59,800 behavior pans occur around the world and the scene around the world almost every day. 634 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:05,400 Yeah, there's reasonablieve they do a lot of things putting gather information and 635 00:51:05,800 --> 00:51:08,840 do the paranormal activity. Like Patrick's saying, But if the aliens are pretty 636 00:51:08,840 --> 00:51:12,320 secretive. They're not gonna they're not gonna tell you what's going on. We 637 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,760 just have to infer what's going on from their behavior, as he says. 638 00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:19,760 And you see, this is why you might notice that there's a huge mental 639 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:24,239 illness problem in the paranormal community because or in the who do ghost hunting anyway, 640 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:29,679 it's because they keep getting exposed to high energy emissions, which has a 641 00:51:29,719 --> 00:51:35,440 neurological effects. All that, and the aliens are aliens are powerful telepaths, 642 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:38,760 and they can also messae your mind if they want to. I think that 643 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:45,559 the constant exposure city signals cause all sorts of mental problems m which is why 644 00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:50,800 people go crazy who live in these one these houses. Huh yeah, yeah, 645 00:51:51,559 --> 00:51:55,119 I actually had unfortunately had something come up during the show, and I'm 646 00:51:55,159 --> 00:51:58,880 going to be this is going to be an hour show this evening. So 647 00:51:59,519 --> 00:52:02,679 I would like for you to if you would give out your website of how 648 00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:07,039 people can reach you and your book one more time, if you would. 649 00:52:08,119 --> 00:52:12,639 Yeah, the book is cool, Quantum Paranormal, that twenty first century analysis 650 00:52:12,679 --> 00:52:17,440 of the paranormal phenomena. It's free to read on Amazon Unlimited and it's actually 651 00:52:19,079 --> 00:52:23,960 the only parallemal book in the world that gets a technical specialists and military indulsements 652 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,679 endorsements. Yes, yes, all right, well, thank you so much. 653 00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,239 Patrick, Yeah, no worried, Thank you about all right, and 654 00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:35,519 thank you also, Stephen, all right, thank you, all right, 655 00:52:36,519 --> 00:52:39,000 yeah, good bye, all right everyone. So we'll be back next week. 656 00:52:39,079 --> 00:52:42,719 Sorry I had to cut this short. Have an issue we're going to 657 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,960 take care of. Thank you so much. We'll be back next week with 658 00:52:45,119 --> 00:52:47,960 Lee Spiegel and remember to keep your eyes to the sky.