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I on the Ball. Hey,
welcome back to My the Ball here

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on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm
Steve, He's Jay, and now we

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have Ryan with breaking news. Let's
get in right into it. A video

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click don't work. We're gonna start
with the Arizona Ball first college foot ball

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game to offer in IL money to
players, to all players from each team

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for me from both teams. We
gotta get more details on this. But

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Snoop Dogg went and put a video
up on social media and the there was

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some comment from from Kim Aderer but
that when the players come to town and

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they do this anyways, right,
they go to hospitals and they go to

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you know, stuff like that,
that when they come to town, they're

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gonna ask them to do some community
work. But every play player will get

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some ni L money by participating in
the bowl game. You know, there's

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a lot of discussion about the implications
of that because there's so many players,

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no players who opt out of their
games, right because they you know,

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go off and do whatever they're gonna
do. Uh. They don't want to

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get hurt. They want to get
ready for the NFL. Whether or not,

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this would be the type of thing
that could entice players to uh just

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stick around and you know, play
an extra game. Some maybe not because

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you know, like some of the
guys that opt out, they're gonna make

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a lot of money in the end
in the NFL or whatever, So it

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might not be but for other players
it might. It might be enough for

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them to play. So this nile
thing continues to evolve, evolved. I

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want to bring up a subject after
when we have time at the end of

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the end of the hour. Yeah, so, uh, but an interesting

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announcement. We'll have to get more
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uh when that time comes along.
So let's switch over to the MLB.

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Some news about one of the one
of the games probably worst umpires is

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effective. Immediately that that brought a
big cheer from a lot of people yesterday.

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He's been bad. If he's bad
and we all know that he's bad,

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how did you continue to be bad? That was my question. It's

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like, okay, if I'm doing
I mean, the things they have video

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of his bad calls, Like,
how did he how did he keep his

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job? I never understood that,
Like I get and look, I'm not

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you know, I mean, you
know, I've been laid off a couple

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of times. I'm not up for
people losing their jobs, right, But

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on the other hand, if you
can't do the job, then somebody else

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should be able to get that job. And it's it's not like you do

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that job in private, right,
you're doing it. This is people are

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seeing it. People are seeing it. And worst of all, over the

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last few years, people are gambling
on it. And now you make a

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bad call, uh, and and
somebody loses some money on it, and

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that's you know, that's bad.
But he's he's you know, he's been

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widely considered possibly the worst umpire in
the history of baseball, certainly you know,

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in this generation, because of like
you said, everything's on video.

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Now. I thought he was the
umpire who made the bad call at first

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base on that perfect game that that
Detroit pitcher had. Oh it wasn't him,

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that was somebody else. Yeah.
Well, no, I think they're

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pushing back the automatic camera for the
balls and strikes to at least twenty twenty

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six. Really, that's what I
saw over the weekend. So it's not

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gonna happen anytime soon. They're gonna
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we don't like it, right,
you don't. I don't like it,

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and I don't. I mean,
yes, I yell like everybody else when

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when a batter for the Dodgers gets
a ball called, you know, off

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the strike zone and gets called a
strike, you know, in back to

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back at bats showy Otani last week
was called got to call third strike on

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pictures that were a good two or
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But on the other hand, I
don't want to see an umpire sitting back

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and has to wait for a beep
in his ear or whatever to call it

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whether it's a ball or a strike. And I still want the human element

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in there, so and and you
just you just suck it up and deal

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with it. Yeah, I mean. Another thing is like they need to

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be more consistent on both on both
sides. You know, they need to

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they're going to call it for one
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the other team. Right, there's
so many games where it's like, well,

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the biggest thing that that that that
baseball. The biggest problem that baseball

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players have with an umpire is when
it's not consistent. They said, if

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you're bad, be consistently bad.
Kind Well, it's kind of a sick

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way to think about it. But
if you're gonna call this pitch three inches

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off the strike zone, call it
like that for everybody, that's what they

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want. You just answered why you
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bad for all these years. But
I'm not saying allow you to continue to

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be consistently bad. But I'm just
saying that, you know, in the

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course of a game, if an
umpire, you know that would see,

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okay, the umpire said strikes.
Okay, that's the strike zone tonight.

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Yeah right, And that might not
be the strike zone for that umpire the

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next time he's or maybe that's always
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if this umpire is umpiring, he's
calling this pit. If I'm a right

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handed hitter, he's calling this pitch
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If you know that, you're okay
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you wish you'd bring it in,
You're okay with There's also the human factor

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of sometimes you're writing sometimes wrong and
the opinions better. By the way,

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anybody, the person who tried to
call us last hour, you go ahead

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and free fe feel free to call
us now, Yeah you can. We'll

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break into this. Yeah, all
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ladies. PGA. Lexi Thompson twenty
nine years old. She's retiring from golf

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full time. What yep, Lexi
Thompson's retiring. Yeah, she's twenty seven,

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twenty, Yeah, she's retiring.
She's gonna spit her family and friends

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and all that stuff. She's got
a lot of titles too, Like fifteen,

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she was. She was the the
hottest golfer for a good period of

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time, not like Nelly Cord now
who's won like six tournaments in a row,

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got beat. She's, you know, hands down favorite to win the

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next major. So if she was, she didn't win like that. But

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she was the most dominant, you
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a couple of years. There really
good one of those like six foot tall

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golfers that just can knock the hell
out of it, hell out of the

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boy. I think she tried to
play in a I think she played in

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a PGA tournament and didn't didn't farewell, but twenty nine years old man,

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but she made a bunch of money, so she probably got You know,

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she can do it because you her
fifteen career worldwide wins and eleven PGA Tour

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wins right there, you go,
it's pretty good. Good number. The

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good thing is the good thing for
people like that at any level, in

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any sport or life. Actually,
when you're able to call your old shot

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yeah and say goodbye and say yeah, isn't that the best? Yeah,

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I'll be living, I'll be working
here till I'm ninety. Yeah. You

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know, maybe she wants to go
have babies and stuff, you know,

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I mean esperiously, you know,
raise a family and stuff. If you

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if you do that, you know
the the you know, the the grind

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of a of an LPGA career.
You know, it makes it tough to

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have a family, you know,
and some players do, but it's hard.

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And look, you and I know
it's hard enough to raise a family

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without without being you know, traveling
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Yeah, yeah, well good for
her. So sticking with golf, we're

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gonna move over to the University of
Arizona Men's golf season ended this weekend yeap

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over in Carlsbad. They were number
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place at forty one over Park.
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to get into the top eight to
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and then and they didn't get there, so to get into the match play

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and they didn't get there. So
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So good, good season. Yep, We're gonna stick with. So

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it was just recent news. Back
to the Major League Baseball. The Negro

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League's statistics will be incorporated on Wednesday, so tomorrow, into the into the

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MLB. The MLB, so part
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stats is what you're saying, right, Because like players like Jackie Robinson,

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Willie Mays, Hank Aaron Hank,
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So I wonder if that gets Hank
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runs. Has there been anything about
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just broke. It just broke.
I would have loved that. I would

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have loved that. Get out of
here Berry the cheater. But I'm not

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bitter, no at all. You
know what, I'm glad about that he

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never won a World Series. I'm
really glad about that they never cheated his

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way to the world So I was
gonna open up ten of WORL I know,

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okay, all right, And the
last thing I got is just NBA

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NBA playoffs. Oh yeah. The
Celtics are now in the finals. So

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we're down to three teams in the
playoffs, and I his Game four between

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the Wolves and the Mavericks. To
lose any money over the weekend, No,

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I didn't bet because I didn't know
which way to go with any of

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them. But let me tell you, I know who made a lot of

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money this weekend for the playoffs.
TJ. I don't know his contract now,

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and no one's getting paid a lot
of money. He's we were talking

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about this last night. He's supposed
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He's going to make more eventually,
because the dude, as hard as he

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plays and as well as he plays, is going to land on a team

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that needs him and we'll say and
we'll use it and come come with us.

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Unless he loves his place where he's
not, and he probably does.

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But he'll be ten years into the
league many people, probably including me,

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didn't think he'd be one. No, yeah, and and you know,

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yeah, and he's wrapping up his
this is his tenth year, right,

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so no, no, n this
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year. Okay. Well, and
he's not an airport guy, definitely not

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an airport. Watching the game the
other night, my daughter maid made the

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comment of he's so little, and
he's really not. But when you see

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him among the trees of the the
NBA players right where even the even the

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the two guards are six six seven
and six eight, you know you see

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him, right, he's what maybe
six two the most? You know he

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does. There are times when you
know, you just get a camera shot

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of him and they're shooting his head
and then somebody walks by and all you

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can you can't see them from the
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shot. And then she would just
say that he does seem kind of kind

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of little out there. I was
just happy that, you know, he

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got this far with that team and
he's doing so well. He's he's just

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one of those guys you cheer for. Oh is that it? So?

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So today's the twenty eighth I'm assuming
I'm assuming correctly or otherwise, the klab

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Love will let us know tonight or
tomorrow to the twenty ninth is the day,

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right, Yeah, whether he's gonna
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whatever, because he's got he's got
like three options. Come back to Tucson

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and play for Ubay, stay in
the NBA and take his chances league,

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or go to another school, right
or go to another school. I think

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he can do that, or or
you know, G League Europe or whatever.

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anything. I imagine that he's his
goal is to get in the NBA.

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So he's not gonna leave Arizona to
go play overseas for now. I don't.

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I wouldn't think. I would think
he's either going to come back here

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or another school and stay on the
radar for the NBA rather than go overseas.

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But his chances will get into the
NBA are probably equal because he well,

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let me ask you, if he's
not ready for the NBA today,

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today, tomorrow or otherwise, do
you think he's going to be ready for

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the NBA in a year. It's
hard to know, Steve. If you

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know, he makes other parts of
his game better if he has better Let's

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say he's a great shooting here.
Let's say he's one of the top three

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point shooters in the country. Yeah, maybe because you can say, well,

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he worked on a shot, that's
what he needed to do, But

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he's got to do a lot of
things. Part of what you would hope

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is that in going through this process, both him, Jade and Bradley whatever

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he's been doing j lewis that they
got a sense of, Okay, this

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is what I need to do now. Flip side of that is you worry

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that are they going to sacrifice the
team right, right right to do the

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things to help themselves. Sure,
he's gonna shoot more, is he gonna

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shoot less? Is he going to
force some things because that's what he was

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told he needed to do in order
to be an NBA player, And he's

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going to do those things to the
detriment of what Tommy Lloyd wants. And

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there's the dilemma because if you you
what he needs to do is work on

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a shot, obviously, become more
consistent, right and maybe even he can't

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go into those right and become more
of a point guard ball handling guy.

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I don't know if he's that guy, but the shot for sure. The

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thing is he gonna be one year
older. No, he's gonna be twenty

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three, twenty four. And in
the league where it's a young league,

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there's a lot of things. Yeah, and don't forget Jay and I l

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how much budget deserves ought to have
to pay all to pay him. Doesn't

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have the money to get him back. And if they might say, we

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won't have any money for you,
he'll go somewhere. Yeah, And we

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don't know, We don't know the
answer to that. I imagine he's gonna

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play college basketball next year. That's
mine, that's my that was my guest.

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My guess he's playing college basketball somewhere. I think it's probably about And

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I don't have anything to base this
on. Sixty forty Yeah, I'm gonna

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say about a sixty five percent chance
that he's coming back here. Oh no,

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no, okay, I was gonna
say, what's the percentage of people

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who want him back? Oh,
that's sixty four. I was saying sixty

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forty. Yeah. There are some
people out there who think that they they'd

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rather not have the packed ball player
of the year back and I don't.

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I don't get that, but okay, I know some of those people.

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Yeah, no, I do too. Okay, No, I hear you.

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I think anything else. I think
anything else breaking news? Yeah,

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real, real quick. As I
saw this, you know it's not breaking

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news, but it's it's something I
thought was very interesting. So there are

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six teams, six teams or six
schools that had a team make an FBS

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bowld make the NCAA tournament, and
men's and women's basketball, baseball, and

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softball. So those five things and
the six are Tennessee, Alabama, Duke,

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Texas, A and M Texas and
and pretty good company. That's pretty

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cool. I mean you see these
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Right, there's a one two?
Well what Texas if you count Texas is

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an SEC school coming up? You
know four teams are going to be in

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the SEC next year, an ACC
team and then Arizona. So there you

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go, all right, sacred break. When come back with Bryce Miller,

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the writer from the San Diego Union
Tribune, I did call him on Bill

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Walton uh for the Tribune. I
guess probably knows him very well from the

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work he's done with him. So
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Chat Fox Sports fourteen fifty. Hey, welcome back to Eying the Ball here

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on Fox sportsporteen fifty. I'm Steve
Rivera. He's Jackins always Snow on the

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phone. We have Bryce Miller,
columnists for the San Diego Union Tribune.

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Bryce, how are you doing well? How about you guys? Fine?

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Thank you? Before the show started
about an hour ago. I'm taking and

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one of my buddies from a long
time ago USA today is uh uh,

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I forgot your name, Bryce,
Bryce? You forgot your name right?

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Just get an old Bryce. You
know that you know? Yeah? Yeah,

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Well it's always nice to know that
you've left kind of a lasting impression.

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Well you did yesterday when I saw
your call him on Bill Walton.

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What a fantastic story on him.
You've known him for a while. How

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many stories have you done on him? Oh? I don't have any idea.

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I would guess I don't know.
Maybe at least ten, maybe,

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well more so. I tried to
I tried to lean on him when I

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could because he's just such a fascinating
guy. We will will we'll have our

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different impressions of him. What before
you go into the story, what was

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your blasting impression of him? Just
how how singular he is he and I

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mentioned it in the column, he's
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there there won't be another Bill Wilton. Sometimes people say there will never be

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another this guy or that guy.
But but in Walton's case, it's true.

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The combination of his you know,
Hall of Fame basketball success and then

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the humanitariany was the philanthropist that he
was just the kind souls particularly meaningful in

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San Diego, because like I had
written, he's not just the biggest cheerleader

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and ambassador for this city. He's
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he's as San Diego a thing about
San Diego as there is in a lot

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of ways. But he just even
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in the country and people don't always
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kind of has that reputation of a
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in the corner. Despite that,
almost everybody in the city seemingly has a

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story about meeting him. He was
just out there. He was available,

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he interacted with people and just giving
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He was just a completely singular human
being. Was he was he able to

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you know, be around town and
you know, live his life and that

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kind of thing. Or was he
just a guy that attracted folks everywhere he

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went? I mean, how did
San Diego handle him as far as that

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goes? Well? And everybody wanted
to be around him. But he was

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kind of known for you know,
he had nearly forty surgeries in his life

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related to all his injuries and everything
from foot to back to almost everything in

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between. And he had told a
colleague of mine years ago that he had

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considered suicide because the cane was so
intense and unrelenting. And but once he

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got a surgery that allowed him to
get back on his bike. He loved

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his bike. In fact, there's
a statue that was commemorated in twenty sixteen

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to him and the statue it's a
huge bronze statue. It's him and his

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bike. The bike is part of
the statue. But once he did that,

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you just couldn't keep him off that
bike. He would even in my

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little community. We see him come
through, and so many people have stories

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about, Oh I saw Bill on
his bike today. You know he didn't.

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He didn't hide in his house on
the edge above the park. He

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got out and lived life. If
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plays, if there were concerts,
if they were charity events, it was

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just Bill was always there. He
was unbelievably, unrelentingly there. And so

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he lived his life and he lived
it right in the part of this city

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and among people. And that's why
so many people were affected by this,

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and it was the sense of loss
was so profound because again, almost everybody

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felt like they knew him in some
way. Yeah, no question, We

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talked about that. Yeah, everybody
has a photo of him. How I

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made him at this place or that
place. There was a there was a

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quote in your story that struck me, and I got a screenshot of it.

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You can tell me who said it, And this was about him.

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Athletes usually aren't very good about giving
back because they're trained to take all their

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life, and I thought that was
brilliant. But if you get it and

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realize that the real honor is to
give back to your community, Bill Relish

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is that that was fantastic. Yeah, that was the late kind of iconic

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broadcaster. Dick Embert he had told
me at the time when I was writing

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that piece about Bill, and I
think it was in relation to the statue

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being unveiled. They became great friends. Obviously, Dick covered him during his

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the heyday of the u c l
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they had that exposure between them in
the UCLA days, but then both living

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in San Diego, that developed into
something more. And you know, Dick

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brought up a really good point.
You didn't hear a lot of from a

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lot of people as athletes at that
level of success. For him not to

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be selfish, for him not to
have a gigantic ego that matched his size,

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that's another thing that made him special. Thank you. You mentioned you

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thought you had ten, maybe a
dozen stories about him. What were the

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when you want when you needed to
do a story wanted to do Stroy.

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Where were some of the things that
you felt you needed to talk to him

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about or that you needed to bring
to your readers. What did you want

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them to know about him? Well, I, you know, the statue

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of veiling. Not to keep going
back to that, but I took that

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opportunity and ended up on one A
and the sand Union Tribune back at twenty

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sixteen when we did it, partially
because I just did a deep die and

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talked to a lot of people that
he knew and didn't just write, Hey,

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there was a statue on veiling.
Here's Bill. He's happy about it.

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It was try to understand his life, try to understand how much he

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and his wife Laurie had done for
the community. Try to understand a little

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bit of what made him tick.
And so if you go online and you

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find that story, I think you'll
get a sense of him there. And

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and then the column I wrote yesterday
is kind of a more broad brush sense

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of what he meant here and the
type of person that he was. But

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I talked to him about anything I
could almost at any point, you know,

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when the Celtics were back in the
NBA Finals, he's fallen up and

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he'd have great stories. He's told
this story. But the time he was

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running late with kids and he's going
to this playoff game and might have been

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the finals, but he got with
it a few blocks of the Boston Garden

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and he was going to be late. So he just met these guys on

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the street. He rolled down the
window and he gave that got out of

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his car and he gave them his
car, and they said, if you

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can, could you drive this behind
the garden and ask for I forget the

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guy's name, Tony or whoever,
and he'll know what to do with it.

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Because it was deadlock, bridlocked traffic. So these strangers he had never

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met. He just gave them his
car. And he came out after the

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game and there was the car because
they were like, well, it's Bill

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Walton. We're going to go park
his car. So I mean, who

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does that? But you know that's
just one of a million slipvers of life

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that explained Bill Walton. Yeah,
no question. I'm sure you talked to

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his kids as well, who he
loved tremendously as part of the stories.

409
00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:08.880
Well more, you know, I
did some stuff on Luke when he was

410
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you know, coach of the Lakers
briefly, and you know some other things

411
00:28:14.519 --> 00:28:19.200
for sure. But you know it
was if you guys dealt with Walton,

412
00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:22.720
which I know to some degree you
did, and I'm sure he did.

413
00:28:23.519 --> 00:28:27.200
You asked him one question and it
was twenty minutes later before he came breap.

414
00:28:27.359 --> 00:28:32.440
So if you were writing about Bill, it was more or less talking

415
00:28:32.480 --> 00:28:36.799
to Bill. You didn't you didn't
have a lot of time or bandwidth to

416
00:28:36.839 --> 00:28:40.519
be talking to a lot of other
people. But that's what made him really

417
00:28:40.519 --> 00:28:44.279
interesting. If you want to see
something really funny, go online and searche

418
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Bryce Miller, Bill Walton Festival of
Books and we have a festival book thing

419
00:28:48.799 --> 00:28:52.920
and there's a video I taught again. He just said yes to everything.

420
00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:56.240
My paper said, can you get
him in to talk about his book?

421
00:28:56.279 --> 00:29:00.519
He had a book out about his
wife, and so he tried into the

422
00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:03.599
paper and all I wanted to do, all my goal was because I know

423
00:29:04.039 --> 00:29:08.440
once he started talking, he wouldn't
stop. And I wanted to just say,

424
00:29:10.119 --> 00:29:12.880
I'm Bryce Miller's sports column with san
Diego Uch and this man needs no

425
00:29:12.960 --> 00:29:18.319
introduction, but I'll give him one
anyway. A Hall of Famer, NBA

426
00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:22.720
champion, now best selling author Bill
Walton. Bill, you know than you

427
00:29:22.799 --> 00:29:27.759
go to the video and here's what
happened. I go, I'm Bryce Miller,

428
00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:32.319
and he goes and I'm Bill Walton, and I'm the luckiest guy in

429
00:29:32.359 --> 00:29:33.599
the world. And he goes on
for like two and a half minutes and

430
00:29:33.640 --> 00:29:37.599
I haven't explained why we're sitting there
and what we're doing, what this is

431
00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:44.119
about. And I'm just laughing because
I lost control of this, like in

432
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:48.920
the first five seconds. And that
was Bill too. He was just so

433
00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:53.759
energetic about everything that, as his
late brother Bruce Walton told me once,

434
00:29:55.720 --> 00:30:02.880
you know, he overcame debilit any
stuttering as a child, really paralyzing and

435
00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:07.400
made him shy and reserved. And
Bruce said, once he started talking and

436
00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:11.279
he never stopped. And it's it's
true. He had so much he wanted

437
00:30:11.279 --> 00:30:14.759
to stay to the world and then
if he got a window to do it,

438
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:18.480
he did it. Well, we
laughed because the last time he was

439
00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:22.119
on our show, this is back
in December of twenty two, Steve says,

440
00:30:22.880 --> 00:30:25.960
bringing me in, Steve says,
Bill, how you doing? And

441
00:30:26.000 --> 00:30:30.799
he went for seven minutes. Oh, and it's hilarious and it was all

442
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:36.400
great stuff. Yeah. Of course, I don't know if you guys saw

443
00:30:36.480 --> 00:30:40.720
the Scott Van Pelt review on ESPN, but that's worth looking up too.

444
00:30:41.440 --> 00:30:45.359
That they're talking to him after a
cow game and he just starts talking about

445
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:52.799
bears and it's not like talking about
like bears. The animals and you look

446
00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:56.599
at Scott van Pelt. There's a
photo of Van Pelt just slumped over his

447
00:30:56.799 --> 00:31:00.519
arm like I've never seen a broadcaster
on live TV, and he looked so

448
00:31:00.640 --> 00:31:03.079
defeated. He's like, well,
I've lost control of this interview and Bill's

449
00:31:03.079 --> 00:31:08.319
going to talk for ten minutes about
bears and it's just everything was an experience

450
00:31:08.359 --> 00:31:11.519
with Bill, and that's what made
it interesting to talk or do your own

451
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:15.640
so you can kind of get an
image of what's in his head. I'm

452
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:21.039
sure you went to the house where
the famous TP where the TPE is and

453
00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:25.880
the collective. It's just so eclicktic, well, so many things. Yeah,

454
00:31:26.039 --> 00:31:29.599
yeah, he went is there was
a range of things I needed to

455
00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:32.880
talk about at one point and he
said, just come to the house.

456
00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:36.720
And of course, you know.
The other thing is he's just everybody knows

457
00:31:36.759 --> 00:31:40.640
he was the biggest grateful dead fame
in the world. We'll get over there

458
00:31:41.000 --> 00:31:45.640
in his house and we're sitting there
at breakfast and there was this kind of

459
00:31:45.079 --> 00:31:49.920
moving tray thing that had these breakfast
items on it, and we both sat

460
00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:55.079
there for like two hours talking about
two or three things, and the little

461
00:31:55.160 --> 00:32:00.680
napkins were grateful dead Napkins, of
course, and then he points over to

462
00:32:00.720 --> 00:32:04.759
a landline and he goes, do
you know you know what call I took

463
00:32:04.799 --> 00:32:07.240
on that phone? And I'm well, of course, I have no idea.

464
00:32:07.640 --> 00:32:12.559
And he goes, that's the phone
where I got the call oh help

465
00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:15.799
me out here, the lead singer
to Jerry Garcia. Yes, he said,

466
00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:17.279
he said, that's the call I
got from one of the band members

467
00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:22.920
that Jerry had died and so.
And he also had in the area of

468
00:32:22.960 --> 00:32:29.119
his kitchen which kind of blended into
sort of the living room, but he

469
00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:34.640
had a giant drum bongo kit It
just kind of awkwardly sat in the middle

470
00:32:34.680 --> 00:32:38.319
of all this stuff. And he
would play sets with a group called the

471
00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:44.480
Electric Waistband in San Diego when they
do grateful bed stuff. So, you

472
00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:49.079
know, he dove into music,
he dove into bike broadcasting. Just he

473
00:32:50.599 --> 00:32:53.759
no one made sure they they did
not get cheated into life as much as

474
00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:57.440
Bill Wong. You know. One
of the interesting things that we we talked

475
00:32:57.440 --> 00:33:01.839
about earlier Steve was that, you
know, the people were mixed in terms

476
00:33:01.880 --> 00:33:06.640
of what they thought of him as
a broadcaster. Right. There were some

477
00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:09.359
people who just couldn't listen to him
and that, you know, but nobody

478
00:33:09.640 --> 00:33:14.759
since he passed has said they didn't
like him, right, you know.

479
00:33:15.440 --> 00:33:19.200
I mean he he was an acquired
taste as relates to what he did on

480
00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:22.640
UH on a on a game broadcast, But you didn't hate him for it,

481
00:33:22.759 --> 00:33:27.200
you just you know, And and
that's that That's what's the amazing thing

482
00:33:27.240 --> 00:33:30.400
to me about it is that people
who really disliked how he did a game

483
00:33:30.920 --> 00:33:37.519
still liked it. Yeah. He
the traditionalists who just wanted to score and

484
00:33:37.599 --> 00:33:40.759
some analysis because he understood the game
of course, you know the level he

485
00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:45.680
played it at. Yeah, it
was frustrating for some and he knew he

486
00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:52.200
wasn't for everyone in the sense of
that, but nobody wasn't entertained, a

487
00:33:52.240 --> 00:33:59.799
bit, a little bit informed.
You talk about anything and you just appreciate

488
00:33:59.839 --> 00:34:05.480
it. A kind of kind of
person, even if even if that's not

489
00:34:05.519 --> 00:34:09.360
how you generally want to watch a
game. And and Bill was just gonna

490
00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:12.840
again, even if it was in
his work life, he was going to

491
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:15.360
live life on his own first.
Yeah, no question. Anybody who wants

492
00:34:15.400 --> 00:34:20.920
to read Bryce's calling, please do
just kind of Bryce Brycemailer, sendye your

493
00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:23.519
Union Tribune. You love it.
Thank you Bryce for joining us telling us

494
00:34:23.519 --> 00:34:27.480
about it. Yeah, I'm glad
to be good to talk to you.

495
00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:31.199
Well, take care of our guys. Yeah, Ryan, uh yeah,

496
00:34:32.039 --> 00:34:37.159
yeah, yeah. He told me
today that that you guys were in some

497
00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:45.440
football pool or something. You're gonna
be talking to my guy today. Yeah,

498
00:34:45.440 --> 00:34:46.719
we'll be sure. Tell them me
be sure. You know, we

499
00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:51.039
know things about Ryan, so you
know, if you ever need something like

500
00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:55.800
that, feel free to share anytime. Thank you. Okay, guys,

501
00:34:55.840 --> 00:34:59.199
you got it. You know what
are the great writers in the West Coast?

502
00:34:59.679 --> 00:35:02.480
Price stuff? Google him if you
haven't had a chance. There's plenty

503
00:35:02.480 --> 00:35:06.480
of stories, yeah, all over
the country about it. All right,

504
00:35:06.519 --> 00:35:08.400
so we're gonna take our last break. We'll be back. We'd love to

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00:35:08.440 --> 00:35:12.000
take your cause if you called earlier
and we didn't take your cause because we

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were right up against the top of
the top of the hour. So we

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I mean iHeartRadio. Wapp Hey,
welcome back to I on the Ball Hero

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Fox Sports fourteen to fifty of Steve
Rivera. He's Jacobs Awa, Scudder guy

551
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Ryan after Control. We're gonna try
it again. Yeah, I think we

552
00:38:40.960 --> 00:38:44.360
hopefully have fixed a problem. I
think we've got this thing cued up.

553
00:38:44.360 --> 00:38:47.840
But we're gonna play the first the
first seven minute clip, so you can't.

554
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We're gonna take a call, right
so our lines are busy right now.

555
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We'll take a call after after this
if at plays, So bear with

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00:38:55.920 --> 00:39:00.320
us. We're gonna hit play.
And this is the from December of twenty

557
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:04.920
twenty two when we were talking to
Bill got Bill on the show. He

558
00:39:05.039 --> 00:39:09.840
was talking about that team. But
you'll you'll see still here in the beginning

559
00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:13.519
and you'll just go, this is
gonna be a seven minute clip. So

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00:39:14.079 --> 00:39:15.880
here we go. Let's give it
a shot. Hey, welcome back to

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00:39:15.880 --> 00:39:19.880
my on the ball here on Fox
Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Romera,

562
00:39:19.960 --> 00:39:22.960
He's Jiginsaws, and now on the
phone we have the great Bill Walton.

563
00:39:22.280 --> 00:39:28.800
Bill, how the heck are you? Oh my, I'm sitting in my

564
00:39:29.039 --> 00:39:37.360
own desert garden with the long shadows
on a cool, actually freezing cold afternoon,

565
00:39:37.920 --> 00:39:44.039
and I'm underneath the proteas and the
euphorbias and the cacti and the succulents

566
00:39:44.599 --> 00:39:51.320
and the aloes and the dragon trees, and I'm thinking about the incredible experience

567
00:39:51.440 --> 00:39:58.679
I just had watching the World Cup
semi final France two nothings over Morocco.

568
00:39:59.159 --> 00:40:04.159
It was just absolutely spectacular. I'm
a huge World Cup soccer fan, and

569
00:40:04.239 --> 00:40:08.239
to see how hard. Everybody tried
to see the fans. They're passionate,

570
00:40:08.920 --> 00:40:15.559
their passionate commitment and their willingness to
go to such lengths to help their team

571
00:40:15.679 --> 00:40:20.880
win. And I was just reminded
one more time of the big red Army

572
00:40:20.920 --> 00:40:23.400
of the West. And when I
come over there to michale and I can't

573
00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:27.760
wait. I know there's snow one
mountain Lemon right now. We just had

574
00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:31.760
a big two day dump of some
much needed rain, and it's just been

575
00:40:31.920 --> 00:40:37.480
so beautiful here. Even with all
the problems that we face on a constant

576
00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:43.000
basis, so many of them self
inflicted. But if we can find some

577
00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:45.320
piece, if we can find some
solace in the world of sports, in

578
00:40:45.320 --> 00:40:52.000
the world of community and coming together, and we can find that sense of

579
00:40:52.280 --> 00:41:00.239
that sense of normal sea that the
desert gives us, and that inclusiveness diverseness

580
00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:05.480
and the animals and the plants and
the sun and the air and the nature,

581
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:08.920
and somehow we find that way to
look at each other and say,

582
00:41:08.920 --> 00:41:14.039
hey man, we got to get
this done. And to see what Tommy

583
00:41:14.119 --> 00:41:16.519
Lloyd has been able to do.
And the team is just on fire right

584
00:41:16.559 --> 00:41:21.079
now. I was shocked, shocked
at the loss of a Utah. But

585
00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:24.039
Utah, like so many of the
teams in college basketball. Man, when

586
00:41:24.840 --> 00:41:28.679
they got it going and they got
their crowd behind them, we saw what

587
00:41:28.800 --> 00:41:32.519
Morocco did. And then last night
or whenever it was, you lose track

588
00:41:32.599 --> 00:41:37.800
of time in my life, but
to see to see the Arizona Wildcats come

589
00:41:37.920 --> 00:41:42.639
right back, and with the big
game coming up on Saturday nights, even

590
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:45.920
though it's a late tip off,
eight thirty Mountain time, Tennessee, don't

591
00:41:45.920 --> 00:41:52.239
ever forget what Tennessee did to the
University of Arizona a year ago when Arizona

592
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:58.079
went in undefeated on just a remarkable
run and start, record setting start for

593
00:41:58.159 --> 00:42:00.679
Tommy Lloyd. But then they were
not ready. They were not ready to

594
00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:06.000
play. And one of the great
things about being the champion being the best,

595
00:42:06.519 --> 00:42:10.159
which Arizona, Tommy Lloyd, Dave
Heikey, Bobby Robbins, all the

596
00:42:10.239 --> 00:42:15.800
guys, everybody in the community of
Tucson. It's just what the standard of

597
00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:21.440
excellence is. I mean, that's
what lude Olsen created there and to be

598
00:42:21.480 --> 00:42:27.079
able to carry that on and it's
not just happening in the city of Tucson,

599
00:42:27.159 --> 00:42:30.000
it's happening up in Phoenix with the
Suns. It's happening in Tempe with

600
00:42:30.199 --> 00:42:35.920
the Sun Devils, and so it's
just absolutely fantastic. I watched the Sun

601
00:42:35.960 --> 00:42:38.119
Devil's play I know this is a
UFA station. I watched the Sun Devils

602
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:43.480
play man, and they are really
fun because they play free, they play

603
00:42:43.559 --> 00:42:46.000
easy, and they make it exciting
as can be, and they're not looking

604
00:42:46.039 --> 00:42:50.559
over at the coach every time for
a structured play. They're saying, hey,

605
00:42:50.559 --> 00:42:52.480
look, this is what we have. We may now have the big,

606
00:42:52.639 --> 00:42:59.480
huge studs and so many of the
superpowers like Arizona, like maybe UCLA

607
00:43:00.239 --> 00:43:05.800
C certainly has, but this is
going to be a remarkable Pac twelve Conference

608
00:43:05.840 --> 00:43:08.559
A champion seasons. And just as
we were coming on, I was told

609
00:43:08.559 --> 00:43:13.440
that there was news of the day
coming out about Sean Miller and if you

610
00:43:13.519 --> 00:43:15.760
guys can clarify that for me,
so I don't say something that is not

611
00:43:15.920 --> 00:43:21.239
accurate. But I'm a big Steve. I'm a big Sean Miller fan.

612
00:43:21.320 --> 00:43:23.519
And I got to have a little
bit of contact with him up at PK

613
00:43:23.719 --> 00:43:30.079
eighty five, and it was just
a spectacular run for his new his old

614
00:43:30.239 --> 00:43:35.159
Xavier team, and they got a
really good squad and I like the fact

615
00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:39.280
in college basketball, the good teams
are playing each other one more time.

616
00:43:39.320 --> 00:43:44.159
And I don't want to leave anybody
out. I'm a big guy about inclusiveness,

617
00:43:44.159 --> 00:43:47.559
about diversity. So you guys can
maybe tell me what Grand Canyon University

618
00:43:47.639 --> 00:43:51.760
is doing and Bryce Newell is doing
as well. Well. I take a

619
00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:57.800
quick breath and adjudge my sunglasses here
as the shadows keep getting longer. And

620
00:43:57.840 --> 00:44:02.639
I moved myself over under the purgeon
there and see all the Bonzai specimens that

621
00:44:02.719 --> 00:44:06.639
I have right there. Oh,
there's the tpe right back there in the

622
00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:09.599
corner. What a beautiful day we
have in San Diego, and I hope

623
00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:15.320
you're celebrating the wonders of nature and
life as well. Thank you, Eve.

624
00:44:15.400 --> 00:44:16.800
How are you guys? Well?
Thanks for doing us. Bill,

625
00:44:16.880 --> 00:44:22.280
we've run out of time, the
t says Bill. We're freezing over here.

626
00:44:22.400 --> 00:44:29.119
For Hey, Bill, you had
that freezing the other day. And

627
00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:34.039
I'm super sorry that I was not
able to make the show on whatever day

628
00:44:34.039 --> 00:44:38.119
it was. But I was scheduled
and my car broke down and I couldn't

629
00:44:38.119 --> 00:44:42.679
move and I was stuck and I
couldn't get anything, and it took four

630
00:44:42.719 --> 00:44:45.480
to five hours out of my life
to get back to my dance, to

631
00:44:45.519 --> 00:44:51.960
get back to order. But finally
order was restored in the universe, and

632
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:54.400
I'm back at it now and good
to be on your show. Eye on

633
00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:59.360
the ball, because that's always what
I try to teach, is to keep

634
00:44:59.400 --> 00:45:02.159
your eye on the ball, because
if you're going to ever get the ball.

635
00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:07.559
And when you look at these guys
like, oh my gosh, ma

636
00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:16.800
Bappi and Hernandez and Girard and oh
the greaseman and all these guys from France

637
00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:22.079
who were just playing so hard in
Morocco. Morocco was playing with such spirit.

638
00:45:22.119 --> 00:45:24.920
But the goal is just in the
fourth minute of the game, and

639
00:45:24.960 --> 00:45:30.840
there was a very dangerous attempt defensively
and then you know, in soccer,

640
00:45:30.920 --> 00:45:35.360
so many of these games come down
to just one play and one mistake,

641
00:45:35.440 --> 00:45:38.079
and the guy went for a steal
that he didn't need to do. They

642
00:45:38.119 --> 00:45:43.440
had the French guys under control.
He went for the steal and all of

643
00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:46.000
a sudden, now France is wide
open in front of the goal and they

644
00:45:46.079 --> 00:45:50.599
got the goal, and oh man, and from then on they just eventually

645
00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:53.079
wore down the Moroccan team, which
played with a lot of spirit, a

646
00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:57.199
lot of pride and hearts, the
kind of things that I look for in

647
00:45:57.480 --> 00:46:00.519
all kinds of athletics, but really
look forward to in the conference. A

648
00:46:00.599 --> 00:46:08.199
champions pack, twelve basketball wow,
vintage. But we didn't even get to

649
00:46:08.199 --> 00:46:12.159
what we wanted to talk about.
I don't even remember what Shaw the sewan

650
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:15.760
breaking up? Yeah, what that
break was here, So it didn't really

651
00:46:15.800 --> 00:46:19.320
matter, h Yeah. And then
we had one more question right now,

652
00:46:19.519 --> 00:46:22.519
Jackson, you asked him a question
about the Arizona big man. It just

653
00:46:22.559 --> 00:46:27.039
said you might. You started to
ask it, and then and then he

654
00:46:27.599 --> 00:46:30.760
kept going. He asked him that
it's another seven minute clips, so we

655
00:46:30.760 --> 00:46:35.320
can't play the whole thing. But
it was again, it's not so much

656
00:46:36.199 --> 00:46:38.280
what he said in these things,
it's just that how he said it,

657
00:46:38.519 --> 00:46:43.039
right, and just the conversation.
And you know, yeah, I mean,

658
00:46:43.079 --> 00:46:45.760
as he's painting a picture of his
backyard to us, right sure,

659
00:46:45.760 --> 00:46:50.800
talking about you know what he's doing, and we never mentioned the backyards.

660
00:46:50.960 --> 00:46:53.280
No, And that's what he wasn't
in the broadcast. Right. It's funny

661
00:46:53.320 --> 00:46:57.719
because I could I get it when
I didn't travel with the team, obviously,

662
00:46:57.760 --> 00:47:00.320
we listened to the games at home, and I could understand and why

663
00:47:00.360 --> 00:47:02.920
people got frustrated. But Jay,
when you go to a game, right,

664
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:06.840
when you go to a game,
physically go to a game, what

665
00:47:06.880 --> 00:47:08.159
do you do? You watch the
game? I watch the game. You

666
00:47:08.159 --> 00:47:12.159
don't need anybody telling you about the
game, right, Why don't they just

667
00:47:12.159 --> 00:47:15.119
turn down the TV and watch the
game. Well, that's what some people

668
00:47:15.119 --> 00:47:17.840
would do. They'd say, I've
got to turn him off. I actually

669
00:47:17.880 --> 00:47:23.320
showed somebody you can listen to Brian
Jefferies and watch the game. You just

670
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:28.440
got to time your you know,
your your your TV with with you know

671
00:47:28.599 --> 00:47:31.440
where it's coming over the over the
radio or whatever there was. You know,

672
00:47:32.199 --> 00:47:36.559
I never did that. I loved
I'm not gonna say I loved listening

673
00:47:36.559 --> 00:47:40.320
to him. I I would listen
to him and watch the game, and

674
00:47:40.400 --> 00:47:44.840
he was he was kind of like
background talk to me. You know.

675
00:47:45.239 --> 00:47:49.239
I would kind of I would kind
of hear him and and and uh,

676
00:47:49.840 --> 00:47:52.239
you know, sometimes I'd pay attention
to what he was saying. I'm like,

677
00:47:52.360 --> 00:47:57.320
what's he talking about? But it
was fun for me. There were

678
00:47:57.320 --> 00:47:59.559
other people who just said, I
absolutely can't listen to him. Well it

679
00:47:59.639 --> 00:48:01.880
was nice story from seven nine years
ago. I think it was he knew

680
00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:07.159
everything about Ducsan, the birds,
the species of birds, the weather tempts,

681
00:48:07.199 --> 00:48:09.119
the Mountain Lemon because he wrote it. He said, I know there's

682
00:48:09.119 --> 00:48:14.480
snow on Mountain Lemon right now,
remember, because that we were it was

683
00:48:14.519 --> 00:48:17.079
cold that day, is what I
recall. And the funny thing about is

684
00:48:17.119 --> 00:48:21.440
Arizona fans the ones who you don't
hear from now. He said all he

685
00:48:21.519 --> 00:48:22.960
hates us. He hates us because
all he does is rip us, right.

686
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:27.599
And the funny thing about it is, I probably think that every team

687
00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:30.239
in the conference felt the same way
because he that's who he was. You

688
00:48:30.400 --> 00:48:34.360
talked about the teams right well,
the schools. Yeah, he did it

689
00:48:34.519 --> 00:48:37.880
and you no, and he didn't
hate anybody. Yeah, it's just the

690
00:48:37.880 --> 00:48:43.480
perception that people are right right.
Yeah, you know again, we're gonna

691
00:48:43.519 --> 00:48:46.199
miss him, We really are.
You know, when when they're when when

692
00:48:46.360 --> 00:48:52.599
you know Arizona is that playing wherever
they're playing, and and you know Dave

693
00:48:52.639 --> 00:48:54.880
Pash maybe maybe doing a game,
or Roxy Burns, he might be doing

694
00:48:54.880 --> 00:48:59.199
the game and they're not with Bill
Walton, you're gonna go, wait a

695
00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:02.079
minute, there's something missing. Yeah, yeah, well I remember the one.

696
00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:07.039
There's two big stories that I remember. The most so nineteen ninety two.

697
00:49:07.079 --> 00:49:08.639
I think it was had to be
ninety two. He was here with

698
00:49:09.480 --> 00:49:13.719
to do a game somehow, and
he came in and he was talking to

699
00:49:13.800 --> 00:49:15.159
Lute on the court. That's when
we were able to go to practice blah

700
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:19.199
blah blah, and Damon, Damon, who was from Portland, Yeah,

701
00:49:19.440 --> 00:49:22.280
was on the floor and he he
kind of acted like a two year old

702
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:24.480
a ten year old when he went
to go shake Bill Walm's hand for the

703
00:49:24.519 --> 00:49:28.280
first time, and he was like, holy crap, I get to meet

704
00:49:28.320 --> 00:49:30.119
mister Bill Walmen, who of course
paid at port in Portland, right,

705
00:49:30.199 --> 00:49:34.400
And Damon must have been a kid
back then, yeah, and he was

706
00:49:34.440 --> 00:49:37.800
like, holy crap, I'm meeting
Bill Walden for the first time. Yeah.

707
00:49:37.920 --> 00:49:40.320
That and then when he paid,
uh, when he paid for the

708
00:49:40.360 --> 00:49:45.280
airplane ticket and got Richard Jefferson in
trouble, I remember, and he was

709
00:49:45.599 --> 00:49:49.599
very very because we had to do
the stories, right, he was very

710
00:49:49.639 --> 00:49:52.360
apologetic. He's Rich's one of my
sons. Yeah, I'm buying it together

711
00:49:52.360 --> 00:49:54.920
for one of my sons to see
my other son, right. I remember

712
00:49:54.960 --> 00:50:00.119
all that. I remember all that, and he was just he just he

713
00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:07.360
had good intentions always exactly. Always, even in his commentary, you know,

714
00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:12.440
on a game broadcast or where he
was on our show or somebody else's

715
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:16.360
show, the intentions were always good. He was never trying to make anybody

716
00:50:16.400 --> 00:50:21.159
look bad. He was never mean, he was never you know, he

717
00:50:21.320 --> 00:50:24.800
just was You could tell he was
just having fun. Yeah, without realizing

718
00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:28.239
he was having fun. He did
it because he was just doing what he

719
00:50:28.679 --> 00:50:31.159
became natural together, right, He
wasn't trying to create fun. He was

720
00:50:31.239 --> 00:50:35.679
just that's who we were. The
funny thing is I did that story nine

721
00:50:35.760 --> 00:50:37.039
years ago. I think it wasn't
And I asked him, what do you

722
00:50:37.039 --> 00:50:40.159
think about the fans kind of like
loving you and not loving you at the

723
00:50:40.199 --> 00:50:44.639
same taxes. I don't know.
I'm just trying to be me, trying

724
00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:46.559
to be me, And I don't
know how to answer that, because again,

725
00:50:46.599 --> 00:50:50.159
I'm just trying to be me.
And he was so polarizing. People

726
00:50:50.239 --> 00:50:52.519
loved him or hated him. But
Larry Scott's the one who kind of brought

727
00:50:52.559 --> 00:50:55.960
him to the PAC twelve Yeah,
and says I like what I see and

728
00:50:57.000 --> 00:51:01.360
I'm going to keep him. Yeah, So you know again, and he's

729
00:51:01.400 --> 00:51:06.079
one of those guys that you don't
you know, you don't think about him

730
00:51:06.079 --> 00:51:07.480
in terms of am I gonna miss
him when he's gone? But then once

731
00:51:07.480 --> 00:51:12.440
he's gone, you go, okay, yeah, you know I do miss

732
00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:15.880
I do miss the one. The
thing. I sent Luca a note yesterday.

733
00:51:15.880 --> 00:51:19.519
I feel bad for their sons,
obviously, you know what. He

734
00:51:19.639 --> 00:51:22.880
was only seventy one, and you
know, I don't know if that's old.

735
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:25.519
And he's only six years older than
me, so well six and change.

736
00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:29.119
You would think that, uh,
well, but the thing is,

737
00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:30.880
he's only sent me one. But
he had a fantastic life. He had

738
00:51:30.880 --> 00:51:32.960
a fantastic life, but in a
lot of ways, a tough life,

739
00:51:34.159 --> 00:51:36.800
very much right. First of all, living in that spotlight is hard,

740
00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:39.079
no matter what, whether it's good
or bad, it's hard. But then

741
00:51:39.400 --> 00:51:43.519
you know all the health issues that
he had. We saw that, and

742
00:51:43.960 --> 00:51:47.199
very well known health issues. And
Bryce said forty forty and not simple.

743
00:51:47.880 --> 00:51:52.800
Yeah, how many back surgeries,
foot surgeries and all that stuff. I

744
00:51:52.840 --> 00:51:55.599
mean, you know, I've told
you know again. Having breakfast with him

745
00:51:55.920 --> 00:52:00.960
in those times in chime, he
would get two chairs from the table and

746
00:52:00.239 --> 00:52:05.639
back them so he could sit there. He was already tall enough. And

747
00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:07.039
then you're sitting with him at breakfast. You're looking up at him. Well,

748
00:52:07.239 --> 00:52:09.400
you get a kick when you watch
the show. Eventually, when you

749
00:52:09.440 --> 00:52:14.400
watch the show, and then we'll
read the other Mouchy story. On this

750
00:52:14.440 --> 00:52:19.760
trip homework, he talked about having
to sit in chairs like for kindergarteners.

751
00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:22.039
Yeah, oh, in these kindergartener
chairs, you know, just normal chairs

752
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:25.079
that you and I would sit in
because he couldn't. His legs were too

753
00:52:25.159 --> 00:52:30.559
long and his knees. I can't
even imagine him getting in airplane and stuff.

754
00:52:30.360 --> 00:52:34.480
Yeah, he got tired of doing
that With the NBA. They finally

755
00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:37.519
said, sorry, you can't do
this anymore because he was traveling so much.

756
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:42.440
Right, all right, well again
we're gonna miss himself. Yeah,

757
00:52:42.440 --> 00:52:45.159
but you know the thing is we're
talking about him and it's all fun and

758
00:52:45.239 --> 00:52:49.079
fun. Yeah, fun and good
stuff, you know, because that's who

759
00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:52.079
he was. That's who he was. Yeah, So celebration of life,

760
00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:54.760
Yeah, very much. All right, we're out here. I'm out here

761
00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:59.280
for a week. I will be
back a week from tomorrow. I'm going

762
00:52:59.280 --> 00:53:01.199
down to Rocky Plat and spend some
time on the beach, get my summer

763
00:53:01.239 --> 00:53:06.920
color, and uh so Steve will
be here with some great guests, already

764
00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:08.000
got some guys lined up for tomorrow. You have color? What are you

765
00:53:08.039 --> 00:53:13.119
talking about? I need more,
I need more. And then I will

766
00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:15.159
see if they let me back in
the country. Well might look might be

767
00:53:15.159 --> 00:53:20.960
looking for a new all right,
I'll see you guys in a week.

768
00:53:21.039 --> 00:53:23.320
Steve will be back tomorrow with some
great guest host and some great guests,

769
00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:25.119
so we hope to see it.
Thanks a bunch

