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Adventist Radio London. Inspiration for the
song We welcome the talking Point with Ray

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Sen Pedro Angeler discussing the hot topics
and answering your questions Saturday's five to seven

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pm on Adventist Radio London. It's
talking Point, it's talking Point, it's

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talking point, it's talking point.
Conversations you need to have and good afternoon,

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Good afternoon to you. It's about
seven minutes past the hour of five

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o'clock and you are listening to Adventists
Radio London. We are back up and

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running. We've had some technical issues
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just managed to get it sorted sorted
in time for talking Point. Thank you

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to Paul and the technicians who have
been working tirelessly to get us live and

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on the ear. So welcome to
you. I do hope you've had a

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good sabbath. I hope you've had
a good week, and I trust you

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already for the conversation that we are
about to have this afternoon. Hopefully we'll

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be able to do Satura night praise
after looking forward to spending the evening playing

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your favorites and looking forward to having
your company there as well. But in

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the meantime, joined as always by
my trusted partner in crime, sorry,

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partner in Christ. Partner in Christ. That never get old for me,

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Angela. I know Pedro is actually
on the road today, but I'm sure

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he is listening. So good appening
to you, Pedro, Angela. How

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are you say hello to the folks? Accident? It is seeming there wasn't

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it. Yes, I'm not too
bad. I'm okay. I'm feeling a

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little tired, and I alway say
I'm tired. The fatigue and exhaustion feels

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real these days. But I've had
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at home today, the sort of
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It was just so I took Sabbath
rest today, you know, went

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to church online and listened into a
couple of services Balat and Quid, and

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I've kind of switched between a couple
of them and listening to music as well

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today. So yeah, I took
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It's been a It's been a busy
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of flowing past workers always busy.
I ran a couple of workshops this week,

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which is actually quite nice thing to
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the power of sense something in aromatherapy
as a music, roma, essential oils,

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and sort of like sometimes we look
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you know, with our senses,
so we listen to music that can

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definitely be good for your well being. But I was looking at the sense

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of smell, which is quite an
interesting one. So yeah, it's it's

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been an interesting week for various reasons. But here we are, here,

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we are. Indeed, we just
blown past and we're going back again doing

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talking points. So yes, so
good, So thank you everyone for joining

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us. Looking for the conversation today
as always. Yeah, I mean it's

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been up and down. I mean
it's been that kind of year already.

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To be fair, my mum hasn't
been well. She's struggling with high blood

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pressure and it's been spiking as of
late, so we've just been keeping an

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eye on that, keeping an eye
on her, and then there's other bits

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and pieces going on, and it's
just feels like it's gone up a nutch.

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I'm not sure what I did right
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it's been a bit chaotic. But
I am really really thankful, as you

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said, for the Sabbath rest.
I got a beautiful message from a friend

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today that reminded me that's what the
sabbath is for, you know, just

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for reconnecting and sort of recharging and
refreshing. And so I'm really grateful for

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that. And here we are another
week. They are flying by, and

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you know, I am saying it, and I know I'm going to get

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so much flak. But before you
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Well, January has practically finished in
coming up to February. And even though

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February I didn't realize this, Actually, do your twenty nine days a leap

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year? Yes? Yes, apparently
twenty night now twenty twenty four four seems

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to be alap here. So even
though we're gonna have an extra day in

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February, before we know it will
be more away the time, we're blessed

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with seeing those days. But yeah, I miss it. And it's been

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very springl like the weather, hasn't
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a complete turnaround from the week before. Couple of weeks it had been a

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couple of I think the sun is
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into this false sense of security,
we've seen the sun I'm thinking, actually,

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yeah, it's looking quite nice,
and I've gone outside and I felt

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the breeze and just thought, okay, that's nice. So, you know,

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it was one day I was like, I went in and bought myself

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back. I went to a shop
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come out with that one, which
is very unlike me. But I was

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just like, oh did It's not
that warm, but it's warmer than it

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has been. So I'm grateful for
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because that makes such a difference.
You can see that the people as well,

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and the back people seem to be
a little bit more upbeat. Female

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smiles and the seems bearable. You
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know you're wrapped up and you're wrapped
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but the sky is bright. Yeah, also my favorite kind of days.

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I'm not particularly keen for scotchy hot
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but uh yeah, these past three
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Really enjoyed just being cozy and as
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up above, lovely reminder that summer
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fast, I think on the forecast
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it's going to thing is going to
be okay, but you can never tell

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because we go up and down.
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know, we have the meetiologist who
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think that's really fascinating. I think
it's amazing. Look at that's skill to

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do that. They give it their
best, but you know they pretty they're

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pretty on it, you know,
looking at there's obviously things that can tell

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can tell people to tell you what's
going to happen. You know, God

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has given those kind of signs and
warning signs or you know, the clues

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there. So the fact that they
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amazing. But true British fashion,
English fashion, and we just never know

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who has that is strong. Be
prepared for every weather, they say in

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one day they say as well,
isn't it sorry? Yeah, yeah,

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well I am conscious that waiting patiently
in the wings is Allison, who is

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going to lead the conversation today.
We are going to it's sort of the

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final session for now as we're wrapping
up the campaign that we've been running for

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January bringing down strongholds and it's been
an excellent informative discussion. Week after week.

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Alison has really sort of shunned the
light and several issues provided us with

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additional assnry as we look at the
weapons that are available to us. And

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we've had really good feed break as
well from our listeners, from persons who

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have taken on board and even put
into action some of the things that they

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have already learned. So, Alison, I want to say thank you.

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I want to say welcome back.
I stayed every week. I will say

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it again. You are an honorary
member of the Talking Point team. It's

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always a pleasure to have you on
board. Alison is an author, a

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psychotherapist, and I know, Alison, you've recently released your latest book,

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which is Relationships Unique Boundaries of Effectiveness
for Success and Fulfillment. And wanted to

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say, please, please, when
you're ready to sort of do some full

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blown campaigning or promotion on that,
do come back with us and let's have

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a quick chat or in depth chat
even about what is revealed within the pages

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of those books of that book.
But Allison, good Afternoon doesn't have how

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I Good Afternoon, Dania, Hi
Angela. It's lovely to be back.

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It's lovely to be back with the
listeners. Thank you so much for me.

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He's been really lovely to be joining
you in January, and I'm glad

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that we've had a chance to discuss
some really important mental emotional wellbeing issues.

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And yes, it's lovely to be
back. I'm good. I, like

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Angela, had a RESTful sabbath,
worshiped from home today. My daughter has

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been down with a cold, and
so we decided to just have some rest

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home and I it's quite nice sometimes
to just reseat, yes and spend that

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time with God on the sabbath.
So yeah, it's been lovely. Thank

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you, wonderful to see you,
and I hope your your daughters were better

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soon. I think a lot of
colds and flu et cetera going around.

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Is that time of the year,
I guess, but yes, yes,

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it's not nice. The thing is, I think times when you get cold

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at this time of the year as
well, you really struggle to shift it.

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Uh huh, because I'm not the
better from from mine. I've still

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got a bit of a still a
bit congested, and you know, it

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still coughings these occasionally, So it's
because it's never ending. But yes,

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so I do wish her well.
Thank you. All right, let's pray.

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We'll take a song break and then
we'll come back with a bit of

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a recap, I imagine, and
then we'll go full blown into the conversation

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that we're having today with the topic
is knowing your wealth definitely farther. We

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thank you for another opportunity to have
this discussion, these very important conversations that

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we have on talking points. Thank
you for the technology and bringing it back

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up and running just in time.
I pray that all will go well and

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that our listeners will truly be blessed, and us too taking part in Jesus'

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name, I pray Amen and a
man God's fin for God is on outside.

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He is overcome, Yes, he
is sober come. We will not

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be shaken. He will not be
moon. She's a supery oh, carrying

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the birds covering of shame. He
is so the come mast be a sober

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come. We will not be shaken. We will not be moon. She's

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a shoe, I will say,
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resration how rist belive in me and
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killing my bird is codling God shade
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We will not be saying he won
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you enstion how ris blating medium and
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will not time. I will see
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the name exeuses the stow around the
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the tars, pelling out the jam, making the sack feelings. Then person

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he shouted out, showing it out
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a way not rash, love the
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lilt to sound to stop starts shows
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So I can't be starting to siqua
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shouting it shut shut, just talking
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the words. It's Israel and new
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Welcome back to Talking Point and as
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discussion that way, if you'd like. The ID is seven seven to one

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nine three eight six to zero nine. So we are inviting you as always

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to be part of the discussion.
If you've got a question for Allison,

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or a question that you'll just want
to let the team or to anyone else

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who's listening, then please to share
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a comment, we're happy to share
that as well. So, Angie,

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we have been front and center for
this conversation that we've been having bringing down

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strongholds. And we started this campaign
at the top of the year, and

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I think we felt that it was
a good way to start twenty twenty four

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sort of equipping persons and ourselves with
the tools that we need to bring down

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the strongholds in our lives. And
Allison started to talk very well at the

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very beginning the first weekend of the
month. We're just listing out some of

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those strongholds that we would be unpacking, and we've done. We've dealt with

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depression, We've dealt with worry and
fear and anxiety, We've dealt with some

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really heavy hitters, and it's gone
deep this month, it really has gone

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deeper. And we're hoping this might
be the lighter side of the topic.

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But we understand that we're dealing with
some things and as Alison rightly starts the

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discussions, we're not fighting on flesh, you know, it's not of self.

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So we understand that these things can
be demonic, sorry, and also

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they can have such holes in our
lives that it's very hard for us to

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bring them down, to break the
chains, and so we have to be

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really, really committed to doing what
we need to do, to seeking the

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support we need to seek and to
saturate ourselves in the word. What were

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some of the things that you pulled
from the discussions we've had so far.

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If you want to start all the
way at the top of the introduction,

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or if there's something that's fresh mind, I just let me know. I

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mean, I think I think definitely
it was a really I think it's been

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a good start to our year.
I mean, you know, we also

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talk at the beginning of the year
age, you know, setting goals,

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you know, new visions, everything
else. But lest I mean, I

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have to think sometimes we girls setting
especial when you preparing for the new year,

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that preparation does need to start from
let's say September. However we skipch

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the new year, and you know, the time is flying past. So

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actually, sometimes what tends to happen
and we are still holding onto, say

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holding onto things, there are still
things that are may be holding us we

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may be holding onto or things that
are holding us back. But actually,

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you know, we start a new
year or a new period in our lives

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or whatever that could be, and
actually we're fighting a battle right from the

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get go because those things are still
there. And sometimes it feels like we

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haven't really got time to really reflect
on it properly and really start that work,

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because you're still carrying on. And
as we've already said, you know

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we're in twenty twenty four, you
know, months almost gone, and you

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know the battle is real as it
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be able to take that time.
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focusing on different areas and some of
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from day in day out actually to
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there are ways to be able to
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a more effective way, and you
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things that can really hold us back, you know. And I really liked

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I'm quite a visual person, and
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of demonstrated what these things are in
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about what a stronghold is used to
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a tour building as it were,
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in some ways they could be really
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you in the battle, but actually
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perfect protective factors become the ones that
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we did, like way should have
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shouldn't necessarily be dealing with some of
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side and were happy. But the
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are dealing with stuff and things are
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a point of position where we don't
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the fact that actually we've been given
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talking about it. We've been given
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how we can manage those things,
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are actually the strong hooles that are
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what you said there about about it
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our old mindset into the new year. We bring our same problem into the

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new year. There is no magic
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it really does mean that we have
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strategic. We've got to really put
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bring these strongholds down. And we
are not the beauty of what Allison has

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been sharing. It is not something
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we have to do alone, and
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victory for with God's help. And
I love how she's broken it down and

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really sort of add a shiner light
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it's a new year, but we
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perhaps fundamental approaches and sort of help
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she said, we can't do this
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we can do ourselves, there are
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but ultimately it's, you know,
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going to bring us through. And
I love the way I was given us

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so many texts to kind of you
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ultimately, it's about how we can
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about those promises that God has given
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those means. You know, we've
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day, eight thousand promises in the
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Maybe there's been so many things to
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and things that we can do,
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those things there as well. You
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week was a heavy one about depression, but worry, anxiety and fear,

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you know, the way we you
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we're not careful, we can let
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become you know, illogical, irrational, they you know, they take

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a hold on us. But again, think about what we can do to

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feed our minds. You know,
what we're surrounding ourselves with, what's going

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to be impacting us, with influencing
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and one of those things is to
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in the words, So I really
loved actually how there's a real spiritual There

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is a spirituals and fact inside to
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that we can do as well.
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recognize that both of those can compliment
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sometimes we have to do practical steps
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we've we've looked at counseling, therapy, ale, that kind of thing.

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very reluctant maybe to reach out to
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who I believe have been blessed and
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kind of look at, and altimately
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things that kind of join together that
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we look at stuff. So and
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to what we're gonna be talking about
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whose image we are made in,
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God values us, it's about I'm
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we talked about you knowing our work, that makes perfect sense. But you

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know, it's been interesting. Actually
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what, despite all of those these
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got to kind of understand and really
reflect on where to me this is coming

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from. And it could be a
thousands of one reasons why we're worrying,

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why we've got fear or anxiety about
something, and unfortunately, where that can

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then lead to an illness, that
depression. But ultimately, if we can

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kind of really recognize how important we
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recognize that because people's situations, experiences, and trauma feeds into all of this.

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kind of way, that's a good
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of the things that we be talking
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add there for those who have missed
the discussion, I know Allison has committed

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to providing us with access to the
zoom presentation that she's prepared, so those

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the programs have been podcasted and are
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if you just want to save, like

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that information. If you don't now, then you must, and you can

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access the information once more in that
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that question out again. We pitch
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want to say again, is it
possible for Christians, real Christians, whatever

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that might mean? For you to
be facing and dealing with some of these

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issues that we've been discussing. Can
a Christian can a person of faith struggle

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with worry and fear and depression?
If so, why and if not why

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I want to hear from you.
Please do get in touch again. It's

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seven seven one nine three eight six
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how as you said, Jela also
looked at both sides. You know,

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it could be physical and I know
personally of persons who are struggling with a

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real physical illness that leads to or
a physical aspect of mental illness. Could

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be stuff that's in the genes,
could be wiring. It could be an

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I know Elson you spoke of dose
and all that other stuff that's actual physical

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and medical and elements is there as
well. But it also could be that

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we're dealing with forces that are beyond
us. And I like when you said

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that thoughts are just thoughts and we
have to be able to control them and

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not let them control us, because
that's the beginning of the end, if

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you will, if we let those
thoughts and those those fears and those worries

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take us over. There's a healthy
aspect you mentioned. You know, you're

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walking across the street, you really
don't want to be concerned whether a car

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is coming. You don't just want
to be running across Willy nearly as they

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see. But when things become too
much or overwhelming or overbearing, and it's

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starting to impact how you live and
how you love and how you enjoy life,

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then there is a point where you
may need to seek assistance. So

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you may need to really look at
what you're dealing with and how you can

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get the help to deal with it. And I think we've sort of said

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enough. Person I don't think here
feeling very satisfying hearing everything being playedback.

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It's it's really it's really nice were
listening, yeah, And I think it's

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you know, it's much to you
know, we're putting this out there for

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people to listen. It's been quite
empowering. I speak to myself as well,

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just to come and hear this,
because you know, despite what we

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you know, I know, so
I know some of this information, but

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it's always good to have a reminder
we'll just look at things in a very

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different way. So that's been it's
been good for me in that respect to

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hear all of this, and you
know, hopefully I ca'n try and put

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some of this into practice and just
you know, make sure I'm looking after

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myself as well as you know,
trying to sort of help others. So

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yeah, yeah, I just just
just wanted to add to what Samuel was

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saying. Yeah, you know,
one of the best things that God has

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given us is the ability to reason, and he even says, come and

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let us reason together. So it's
really important that when we have these thoughts,

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we have these feelings, you know, we have these ideas that we

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reason, we use our minds.
The mind is a is a very kind

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of high gift that God has given
us to be able to use our mind

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to reason. It's an amazing thing. So let's let's reason with him.

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And yes, let's reason about when
to cross the way and cross the undimate.

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You were saying as well, you
know that we're really important for us

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to know the truth, and ultimately
that truth will set you free. So

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again it's really trying to sort of
unpack, delve into things, looking where

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things are coming from, you know, looking at you said reason, explore,

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discover for yourself, you know,
and really sort of understand and recognize

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the truth, because that definitely will
be your saving graces. Are so right,

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Alison, over to you. I
know there is quite a bit more

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for us to discuss, and why
we have the topic this afternoon, knowing

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your worsh take it away, Okay, yeah, today we're looking at knowing

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your work. But I really do, like normally like to start with just

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looking at the key text that we've
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coming from Second Corinthians, Chapter ten, Versus three to five, which says,

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for the weapons of our warfare are
not cannal, but mighty in God,

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for pulling down strongholds, casting down
arguments, and every high thing that

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exalts itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought into captivity to the

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obedience of Christ. Before that,
it says, though we are made of

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the flesh, we do not battle
with the flesh. And I think it's

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really this scripture text is really powerful. It's a really important one that's kind

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of you know, underpinned all of
the things that we've been looking at this

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series, and today, of course
we're focusing on explore orrowing, knowing my

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worth, knowing my worth. Let's
start by exploring our worth and you know,

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some of the things key questions that
I really want to start by asking

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us to reflect on who am I? I know that this is a quite

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a common question. Who am I? You know, if you if you

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haven't asked yourself that question, please
do. It's a very important question.

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What factors in my past or press
and or present contribute to how I perceive

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myself? And why am I here? What's my purpose? So you know,

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those are really really important questions and
hopefully maybe by the end of this

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of the program today you'll have more
clear answers to those questions or your answer

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great, glad to hear it.
Your answers to those questions might be enhanced.

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That was technology. I do apologize. So when we talk about the

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self, when we talk about who
we are, it's very important that we

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know that there are various aspects of
self, you know, and you know,

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when we think deeply about okay,
what am I about? Who am

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I? How do I define myself. That various ways in which we can

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think about self. So we can
think about self self concept, our perception

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of who we are. So our
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thoughts that we have, the preferences, the habits, the hobbies, the

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skills, areas of weakness, areas
of strength. That's really the self concept.

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That's how when we talk about self
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what are my preferences, we can
look at that we can define that as

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self concept. And then we have
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the way in which we see ourselves. And we can see ourselves based on

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accurate thoughts or feelings or information,
or even based on inaccurate thoughts, feelings,

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or information about ourselves. So how
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is the self image. And then
we have what we call the self worth,

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which is really what we want to
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So self worth is a recognition that
we are valuable human beings and worthy

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of love, worthy of respect,
worthy of you know, being safe in

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our environment, whether of the kind
of basic safety needs in life like food,

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shelter. You know, every human
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love, respects, recognition, and
that's the self worth, that's what we

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call self worth. And then we've
got self confidence. And our self confidence

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is the is the trust that we
have in ourselves really and our ability to

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deal with challenges, solve problems,
and engage in things aspects around us,

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things in the world, you know, successfully kind of engaging activities that we

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need to engage engaging. When we
have that trust in ourselves in our ability

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to do those things, then we
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what we call or self efficacy,
which is our ability to succeed at certain

409
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specific tasks. So you know,
if we're efficient in I don't know,

410
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maybe cooking, for example, were
very efficient in playing particular spots for example,

411
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that's that's our self efficacy. So
it's really important to recognize what we're

412
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good at, what were efficient,
where we succeed, what things we succeed

413
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are doing. And then we have
what we call self compassion, and that's

414
00:37:34.480 --> 00:37:40.559
how we relate to ourselves. And
rather than judging ourselves or rather than criticizing,

415
00:37:42.039 --> 00:37:45.400
being self critical, it's about being
kind, It's about being forgiving,

416
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to ourselves. So these aspects of
selves, you know, it's really worth

417
00:37:52.960 --> 00:37:57.119
kind of knowing. And then we
also have what we call self esteem,

418
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self esteem and self acceptance. So
self esteem is about how we evaluate ourselves.

419
00:38:05.039 --> 00:38:12.719
It's about comparing ourselves perhaps to certain
people, comparing ourselves in certain situations

420
00:38:13.320 --> 00:38:19.199
on how we do certain things against
how other people do them, how other

421
00:38:19.320 --> 00:38:23.719
people perhaps may perceive us or evaluate
us. That's that's our self esteem,

422
00:38:23.760 --> 00:38:30.800
and it's contingent on circumstances. Our
selvisteem is normally quite fragile because it just

423
00:38:31.079 --> 00:38:37.000
like I said, it depends on
circumstances. So selvice team can change.

424
00:38:37.519 --> 00:38:40.719
One minute, we can think,
well, we've got very high self esteem.

425
00:38:40.880 --> 00:38:44.840
Next minute we might think, well, you know, I'm not feeling

426
00:38:45.199 --> 00:38:50.159
very good about myself because of the
way people are judging me, evaluating me,

427
00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:55.599
of the way I'm judging myself against
other people. Selvest team has mixed

428
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effects on well being. And like
I said, we have self acceptance and

429
00:39:01.960 --> 00:39:08.559
that really is relating to the self. We don't need to be comparing ourselves

430
00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:15.679
to other people. It's also it
can also be contingent on circumstances. But

431
00:39:15.840 --> 00:39:22.760
there's a security with self acceptance because
it's really not it's non critical. It's

432
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just accepting yourself for who you are, and so that there's a sense of

433
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security. It's not fragile. It
doesn't matter what other people are thinking,

434
00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:36.480
what other people are saying. It's
the ability to just accept us for who

435
00:39:36.559 --> 00:39:39.880
we are. And you know,
when we can be self accepting, this

436
00:39:40.119 --> 00:39:46.079
generally has a possible positive effect on
our well being. So really, generally

437
00:39:46.159 --> 00:39:52.719
speaking, our ability to recognize our
true worth depends on whether we focus on

438
00:39:52.880 --> 00:39:59.039
our self esteem or self acceptance.
I've got on the screen a kind of

439
00:39:59.360 --> 00:40:06.039
comparison between self esteem and self acceptance. When we share the slides, you'll

440
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be able to see them if you're
just listening. So moving on, when

441
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we talk about self esteem, what
are some of the factors that kind of

442
00:40:19.719 --> 00:40:23.400
impact on our self esteem. The
reason I'm looking at this is because I

443
00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:30.320
know that, you know, self
esteem is a hot topic. Many people

444
00:40:30.639 --> 00:40:35.559
want to have high self esteem,
you know, good self esteem. But

445
00:40:36.119 --> 00:40:39.159
you know, like you said,
self esteem is quite quite fragile and just

446
00:40:39.280 --> 00:40:45.480
depends on really circumstances, what's happening
in the environment. So what are some

447
00:40:45.639 --> 00:40:50.480
of the factors that impact on self
esteem. It could be family environments.

448
00:40:50.679 --> 00:40:54.320
So you could be from a family
that's very validating, that's very supportive,

449
00:40:54.920 --> 00:41:01.679
that's very kind of loving and trust
worthy, and in that sense you will

450
00:41:01.800 --> 00:41:07.679
have quite probably quite good self esteem
because you're getting the security and validation from

451
00:41:07.760 --> 00:41:15.159
your your family environment. It could
be based on achievement or physical appearance,

452
00:41:15.519 --> 00:41:20.559
or you know, especially nowadays where
social media is the thing. You know,

453
00:41:21.239 --> 00:41:25.199
most people are posting their best,
the best versions of themselves, so

454
00:41:25.360 --> 00:41:30.679
to speak, on social media,
and for some people that's kind of building

455
00:41:30.039 --> 00:41:35.400
enhancing their self esteem. On the
other hand, you know, physically,

456
00:41:35.400 --> 00:41:37.960
if you don't think, well,
I look good enough, that can have

457
00:41:37.079 --> 00:41:43.599
a negative impact on self esteem.
Self belief is an important one, so

458
00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:46.800
that's really what you believe about yourself. Do you believe you're you're good enough?

459
00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:52.960
Do you believe you are you are
worthy? Do you believe you your

460
00:41:53.800 --> 00:42:00.760
your failure? Do you believe that
you know life's worth living because you know

461
00:42:00.880 --> 00:42:06.000
you're a high achiever and you're going
to make it in life. Your self

462
00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:13.760
belief can directly impact on your self
esteem and then your ability to do things

463
00:42:14.119 --> 00:42:20.800
proficiently, your ability to do various
tasks to a good standard or to a

464
00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:25.719
high standard can have a direct impact
on your self esteem and also obviously your

465
00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:30.079
kind of the people that you interact
with, your friends, your acquaintances,

466
00:42:30.639 --> 00:42:36.599
people at work. You know,
those relationships, if they're good, if

467
00:42:36.599 --> 00:42:39.360
they're healthy, can bump off your
self esteem. If they're not healthy,

468
00:42:39.840 --> 00:42:45.079
can be quite detrimental to your self
esteem. So when we talk about self

469
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:51.920
esteem, we're talking about, you
know, something that's really influenced by different

470
00:42:52.199 --> 00:42:59.960
different factors. Nowadays, a lot
of people have issues with low self issis

471
00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:06.199
a lot of the problems that people
have with other things that we've looked at.

472
00:43:06.719 --> 00:43:13.239
Worry, anxiety, depression will directly
impact on self esteem or self steam

473
00:43:13.559 --> 00:43:20.159
will directly cause some of those issues. So how does it really come about?

474
00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:24.239
What keeps it going? Some of
the things that really directly impact on

475
00:43:24.360 --> 00:43:30.039
selvis low self esteem and keep it
going things like our core beliefs. Our

476
00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:37.840
core beliefs are fundamentally the beliefs that
we hold the lens through which we see

477
00:43:37.960 --> 00:43:43.239
we perceive ourselves. Uh, And
a lot of the time that's determined by

478
00:43:44.320 --> 00:43:49.960
messages that's been handed over to us
by you know, maybe family, maybe

479
00:43:50.119 --> 00:43:55.480
friends, colleagues, environments, and
we start to believe certain things about ourselves.

480
00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:00.440
So if we have if somebody set
to us several times, you know,

481
00:44:01.519 --> 00:44:05.199
you're I don't think you're very good. I don't think you're going to

482
00:44:05.280 --> 00:44:08.400
make it. I don't think you're
very bright. You know, then we

483
00:44:08.559 --> 00:44:14.639
start to think maybe something along the
lines of I'm a failure or I'm not

484
00:44:14.760 --> 00:44:20.559
good enough, and that core believe
becomes the thing becomes the main kind of

485
00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:27.119
lens through which you're viewing yourself.
And if you're holding a negative core believe

486
00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:30.440
of yourself, that can be quite
damaging. It means that, you know,

487
00:44:30.760 --> 00:44:37.000
you start to develop what we call
unhelpful rules for living. You start

488
00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:40.000
to make assumptions. So if I'm
not good enough, for example, if

489
00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:46.679
I'm a failure for example, I
must say yes to anything anybody asks of

490
00:44:46.880 --> 00:44:52.639
me for example. Or I must
please people for example, or you know,

491
00:44:52.960 --> 00:44:58.800
I can't say no to anything.
Those are some common kind of unhelpful

492
00:44:58.880 --> 00:45:04.199
rules for living people tend to adopt. And then what also happens is that

493
00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:09.239
people have kind of like negative predictions, So you know, start to predict,

494
00:45:09.480 --> 00:45:15.039
start to anticipate or foresee things that
might happen. And this these predictions

495
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:19.480
become negative. And if the predictions, if you think, well, if

496
00:45:19.519 --> 00:45:22.679
I don't say yes every time somebody
asks me to do something, then they're

497
00:45:22.719 --> 00:45:25.559
going to hate They're going to hate
me, or they're going to dislike me.

498
00:45:27.320 --> 00:45:31.440
That will make us engage in unhelpful
behaviors, It will make us kind

499
00:45:31.480 --> 00:45:36.000
of go out of our way.
Then maybe to do things that will make

500
00:45:36.079 --> 00:45:40.360
us to perhaps seek reassurance for other
people from other people, depend on other

501
00:45:40.480 --> 00:45:45.639
people to tell us how, tell
us whether we're good enough, or tell

502
00:45:45.719 --> 00:45:50.599
us that you know, we're not
a failure, or you know, provide

503
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:55.599
positive feedback, and that that type
of reassurance seeking can be quite detrimental because

504
00:45:55.639 --> 00:46:01.360
you're looking for somebody else to provide
that value to you, rather than perhaps

505
00:46:01.440 --> 00:46:07.039
looking to God or actually kind of
searching yourself for what your strengths are.

506
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:10.400
When you don't think you're good enough, when you have a low self esteem

507
00:46:10.480 --> 00:46:15.079
or you've got negative core believes about
yourself, then it's very easy to speak

508
00:46:15.199 --> 00:46:19.559
to yourself in a very critical way. It's very easy. You know,

509
00:46:19.719 --> 00:46:22.719
people say things like, oh,
I'm so stupid, or you know,

510
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:28.400
I'm such a fool, and that
sort of thing, that negative labeling or

511
00:46:28.639 --> 00:46:31.599
you know, seeing yourself in a
negative life light and being self critical.

512
00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:37.239
So you know, those are some
of the things that will keep somebody kind

513
00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:40.039
of experiencing law self esteem. You've
got core believes that are negative. You

514
00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:45.320
make assumptions that are negative all the
time. Something might be happening, but

515
00:46:45.480 --> 00:46:50.079
you just assume that maybe somebody doesn't
like you because you don't think you're good

516
00:46:50.199 --> 00:46:52.840
enough. You make negative predictions.
If I don't do X, y Z,

517
00:46:53.360 --> 00:46:58.360
nobody's ever going to accept me into
their circle, for example. And

518
00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:02.760
you're very self critical, and those
are the things that keep low selver steam

519
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:08.719
going. And then in practice,
what does that actually look like. Well,

520
00:47:08.880 --> 00:47:13.519
people with low self esteem, like
I said, will be very critical

521
00:47:13.599 --> 00:47:19.199
of themselves, very very critical,
criticizing themselves all the time, blaming themselves,

522
00:47:19.559 --> 00:47:25.280
taking responsibility for negative things that perhaps
are not responsible for, focusing on

523
00:47:25.440 --> 00:47:30.239
their weaknesses. You know, we
all have areas that we're not so stronger.

524
00:47:30.760 --> 00:47:34.440
But when when we've got low selve
steam, all we're doing is focusing.

525
00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:37.280
We forget the things that we're good
at and we focus on things that

526
00:47:37.400 --> 00:47:43.159
we think that we're not very good
at. We are not able to be

527
00:47:43.280 --> 00:47:47.519
assertive, we're not able to kind
of express our own our own desires,

528
00:47:47.639 --> 00:47:53.199
our own needs. Sometimes we might
be kind of very apologetic while apologizing a

529
00:47:53.239 --> 00:47:55.960
lot, Oh I'm sorry, Oh
I'm sorry, and you know, sometimes

530
00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:00.159
it's quite strange, like what are
you sorry for? You know? So,

531
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:04.000
you know, people who have low
SELVISTEAM can tend to apologize a lot

532
00:48:04.239 --> 00:48:08.760
when they really don't need to.
They can tend to avoid challenges or try

533
00:48:08.840 --> 00:48:14.320
to be perfect in everything. Not
this perfect, you know, but people

534
00:48:14.400 --> 00:48:17.840
with low SELVISTEAM would want to do
everything to perfection, be perfect, and

535
00:48:19.000 --> 00:48:22.639
be very self critical if they feel
that they haven't met very high standards.

536
00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:29.320
They feel self conscious, they want
to please people, and they feel like

537
00:48:29.400 --> 00:48:32.280
they don't deserve treats. So something
with low selvisteing, For example, if

538
00:48:32.320 --> 00:48:36.960
you compliment them and say, oh, you know, I like your bag,

539
00:48:37.159 --> 00:48:39.559
or I like your dress or I
like your hair, instead of just

540
00:48:39.639 --> 00:48:43.599
saying thank you, they might say, oh, you know, I've had

541
00:48:43.679 --> 00:48:47.599
this for a long time, very
kind of dismissive or compliments or you know,

542
00:48:47.920 --> 00:48:54.079
think they don't deserve anything good,
so feel very uncomfortable with anything positive,

543
00:48:54.360 --> 00:49:00.519
any treats that they might be getting, and they don't think much about

544
00:49:00.559 --> 00:49:04.840
themselves and uh, you know,
these are some of the kind of common

545
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:15.039
characteristics of people with low self esteem. Now, how does it impact on

546
00:49:15.199 --> 00:49:19.440
well being? I think, you
know, we we have to understand that

547
00:49:19.639 --> 00:49:24.159
low selvisteam can run very deep,
can be very ingrained, and that's why

548
00:49:24.400 --> 00:49:30.199
it's a stronghold low self worth.
Seeing yourself in a negative light is really

549
00:49:31.760 --> 00:49:38.880
quite a big stronghold and does have
a direct impact on our wellbeing. So

550
00:49:39.440 --> 00:49:45.039
what does it do? It causes
anxiety. We talked about anxiety. We've

551
00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:47.679
got talked about worry here and anxiety. It makes people feel on edge all

552
00:49:47.760 --> 00:49:52.159
the time. If you don't think
that you're with your you're worth anything,

553
00:49:52.280 --> 00:49:55.000
or you're good enough, or that
your failure or your or that you're if

554
00:49:55.039 --> 00:50:00.440
you think you're undeserving or you think
you're defective in any way, of course

555
00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:04.119
you're going to be anxious. You're
going to have anxiety, You're going to

556
00:50:04.159 --> 00:50:07.480
be on edge because you're going to
be thinking all the time. But well,

557
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:10.400
you know, people are going to
see you in a negative way.

558
00:50:10.559 --> 00:50:15.840
You're going to probably go out of
your way to do certain things that perhaps

559
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:19.800
you shouldn't, you don't need to, you shouldn't have to depression. You

560
00:50:19.920 --> 00:50:25.280
can't obviously be joyful or happy if
you're very self critical, if you're seeing

561
00:50:25.320 --> 00:50:30.800
yourself in a negative way all the
time. And anxiety and depression are known

562
00:50:30.880 --> 00:50:37.519
to have to cause physical health problems, So chest pains, headaches, unexplained

563
00:50:38.039 --> 00:50:42.800
medical conditions. Sometimes we go to
the doctor and we say, oh,

564
00:50:43.119 --> 00:50:46.559
you know, I've got this problem. My tummy hurts or my chest hurts,

565
00:50:46.599 --> 00:50:50.119
and you know, I feel this
way. I feel that when they

566
00:50:50.239 --> 00:50:53.880
do all sorts of tests and then
they find out, well, there's nothing

567
00:50:54.119 --> 00:50:59.519
medically wrong with you. You know. So when we have low self esteem,

568
00:50:59.599 --> 00:51:02.599
we have anxiety, we have depression, we have anger within us,

569
00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:09.840
we have we carry shame or guilt. This this can lead to physical physical

570
00:51:09.920 --> 00:51:15.639
health problems. Also, people some
people that have suffered from eating disorder,

571
00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:24.400
anouretsia, bolimia, binge, eating
that sort of thing. And ultimately people

572
00:51:24.800 --> 00:51:31.239
people suffer from their relationship with their
relationships that have relationships issues which then have

573
00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:38.199
a direct impact on their mental and
physical well being. So we've looked at,

574
00:51:38.760 --> 00:51:44.000
you know, the various aspects of
self that we've kind of focused on,

575
00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:50.159
you know, self esteem, self
self stem, self acceptance, and

576
00:51:50.280 --> 00:51:53.800
then we've gone on to look at
look at low sevesting and the impact that

577
00:51:53.960 --> 00:52:00.519
that can have on our on our
mental and physical wellbeing. And just pause

578
00:52:00.599 --> 00:52:06.199
here because I know that that's quite
a bit of information, and I'll hand

579
00:52:06.239 --> 00:52:12.199
over to Z now. Thanks Alison. Yes, that again so informative.

580
00:52:12.320 --> 00:52:15.440
I didn't I've never really looked at
self and broken it down to that sort

581
00:52:15.480 --> 00:52:21.440
of detail. You're talking about self
concept and self image and self work,

582
00:52:22.000 --> 00:52:28.159
self confidence, self efficacy, self
compassion, self esteem, self acceptance.

583
00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:31.360
That's a lot of self there,
and I don't know that I've ever really

584
00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:37.440
broken it down quite like that.
And I'm also sort of seeing the correlation.

585
00:52:37.639 --> 00:52:42.559
And I believe you mentioned it before, So is it come moobidity?

586
00:52:42.800 --> 00:52:46.239
Is that the right term for it? Where there are so many dotted lines

587
00:52:46.320 --> 00:52:50.960
into what affects us, and you
know one can affect the other, one

588
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:53.639
thing can affect the other thing,
and how low self esteem can sort of

589
00:52:54.039 --> 00:52:59.639
cause depression. Depression can cause low
self esteem. So we really are sort

590
00:52:59.639 --> 00:53:02.559
of, as Angel would say,
really whole beans. And that's why we

591
00:53:02.639 --> 00:53:07.280
have to take a holistic approach when
we're dealing with with whatever issue we're dealing

592
00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:12.079
with and I don't know what what's
sort of jumped out at you from what's

593
00:53:12.119 --> 00:53:15.960
been said already. Interesting as you're
saying about, you know again looking at

594
00:53:15.960 --> 00:53:20.360
itself in those various aspects, actually
all those work hand in hand. They're

595
00:53:20.440 --> 00:53:23.440
really it seems that they're really key. We're talking about holistically, but you

596
00:53:23.519 --> 00:53:28.840
know, all of those things are
really important to parts of yourself, and

597
00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:32.920
if those things aren't sort of aligned
or imbalance, then actually that's potentially going

598
00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:37.360
to be leading to some of these
issues that people will have. And it's

599
00:53:37.360 --> 00:53:40.199
been quite interesting to sort of see
how you know, if you don't if

600
00:53:40.239 --> 00:53:46.480
something the different aspects of that are
they are, if they're not being what's

601
00:53:46.519 --> 00:53:52.440
the word, if they're not a
having of the word now, if they're

602
00:53:52.480 --> 00:53:57.480
not happening for the read words,
how that then how that presents itself?

603
00:53:58.880 --> 00:54:00.960
You know what happens for you?
And it's que interesting. You know,

604
00:54:01.039 --> 00:54:06.880
sometimes people find it really difficult to
accept compliments from each other and you think

605
00:54:06.960 --> 00:54:08.119
something as simple as that. Now
I'm not saying because you can't do that,

606
00:54:08.159 --> 00:54:13.880
you have no self esteem, but
you're maybe not recognizing how important that

607
00:54:14.000 --> 00:54:16.400
part of yourself really is. You
know, sometimes we just don't Again,

608
00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:19.760
we never think of it in those
kinds of ways. But actually one of

609
00:54:19.800 --> 00:54:22.960
those errors are quite important. And
I was just curious as well. You

610
00:54:23.000 --> 00:54:28.679
know, some of these things you
were talking about environment and how things can

611
00:54:28.760 --> 00:54:34.079
feed into shaping your self esteem and
hopefully, you know, if the people

612
00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:36.960
are having a sort of a positive
aspect, But can some of those things

613
00:54:37.920 --> 00:54:42.440
turn too much of something or almost
have a bit of a negative effect anyway,

614
00:54:42.519 --> 00:54:46.760
even if there's a really positive sort
of environment that does that cannot work

615
00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:52.119
have a negative kind of connotation too
much of a good thing. Yeah,

616
00:54:52.239 --> 00:54:58.199
that's a that's a good question.
So you know, sometimes you've got too

617
00:54:58.320 --> 00:55:02.679
much self confident or you know,
you think that you're you're just simply too

618
00:55:02.719 --> 00:55:08.559
good at the expense, at the
expense of, you know, considering that

619
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:15.119
the other people you know have positives
about them, you know, they being

620
00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:20.960
so engrossed in your own self,
you know, that becomes that becomes a

621
00:55:21.039 --> 00:55:24.360
problem. So it's good. Balance
is always good. It's good to recognize

622
00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:30.639
what we're good at, what was
stronger, where we need kind of areas

623
00:55:30.679 --> 00:55:34.400
of development. But I think one
of the things that I didn't kind of

624
00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:40.480
include this kind of denials, because
some people kind of having an attitude of

625
00:55:40.559 --> 00:55:45.719
self denial. They don't accept that
there are certain things that they actually are

626
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:51.320
not very good at and other people
might be better than them. And when

627
00:55:51.400 --> 00:55:55.280
you've got this sense of you're so
kind of into yourself and you think you're

628
00:55:55.480 --> 00:56:00.800
better than everybody in everything, then
you're Indian Nile about the fact that actually

629
00:56:01.280 --> 00:56:06.960
you need to be accepting of the
fact that there are potentially other areas that

630
00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:12.679
you may not be excellent. But
that's okay. So it can be detrimental

631
00:56:12.800 --> 00:56:20.519
because you can alienate people by being
too focused on the positives about yourself,

632
00:56:20.920 --> 00:56:23.360
so to speak. Yeah, I
think for me as well, I've taken

633
00:56:23.400 --> 00:56:28.320
away and I know we know it. But it's always good to be reminded

634
00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:31.000
that we have to be careful what
we tell ourselves. As parents, we've

635
00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:35.519
got to be careful what we tell
our children. Again, it's remind us

636
00:56:35.679 --> 00:56:38.159
many, for many, hopefully,
but it's good to have those reminders because

637
00:56:38.199 --> 00:56:42.320
we do it all the time.
Probably don't even notice that we're doing it.

638
00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:46.079
I'm speaking ill of ourselves or speaking
down on ourselves, and that impacts

639
00:56:46.199 --> 00:56:50.800
our self esteem. And as you've
rightly said, at the end, our

640
00:56:50.840 --> 00:56:54.480
self esteem can impact so many other
aspects of our life. So that's for

641
00:56:54.639 --> 00:57:00.280
me a good and useful reminder.
Yeah, let's take a break. I

642
00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:05.079
love this one. It's a mercy
general confidence. When we come back,

643
00:57:05.199 --> 00:57:15.039
we'll continue with the conversation. Knowing
you're worst you. He's in you.

644
00:57:15.400 --> 00:57:22.800
I'm bout my trusting you, trust
in you, Jesus some not alone,

645
00:57:22.159 --> 00:57:32.559
you're with me. You're with me
because one with you is majority my confidence.

646
00:57:37.480 --> 00:57:46.719
I'm on Jesus, not alone,
you with me. You're with me.

647
00:57:47.400 --> 00:57:59.760
One with you is majority. Looking
at you, Jesus. Although it

648
00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:09.840
finish sort of fighter, I'm I
trading be good, sir. I held

649
00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:25.960
you. I have everything'm getting unto
Jus spottle and finished sort of fighters am

650
00:58:27.000 --> 00:58:37.679
I try to be gonsired. I
heard you. I have everything before I

651
00:58:37.880 --> 00:58:49.239
call you the answering you love them
at me for wonder wond with you are

652
00:58:49.360 --> 00:59:00.239
not lord of cold? One with
you? Is they before God? You

653
00:59:00.400 --> 00:59:10.440
won't So I'm so you know they
one the one with you have not a

654
00:59:10.559 --> 00:59:24.840
lord of cover? What with you? Miss Mavis? You see me?

655
00:59:28.639 --> 00:59:53.280
Just stay I'm not You're getting fun
with you? Miss the Dovic best not

656
00:59:54.880 --> 01:00:06.480
you get fun with the you miss
me okay, you surround me like a

657
01:00:06.639 --> 01:00:15.039
sheep machine and poplar wearing stuff and
tip them to my soul. That's why

658
01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:22.719
I am not boring. You're with
me. I'm monelold. He has some

659
01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:37.039
carver look in until jag and I'm
telling Fanny Shirt than I. I'm my

660
01:00:37.159 --> 01:01:15.079
friends because I I love mean,
I haven't my steal stack thy stand stop

661
01:01:16.440 --> 01:01:35.280
eighty, nor your seal with me. One with you is the os speak

662
01:01:38.639 --> 01:02:08.199
pity you. One is the coop
love scause. One was the isity Mercy.

663
01:02:08.360 --> 01:02:15.119
Chin were reminding us that one with
you, God is majority, and

664
01:02:15.320 --> 01:02:20.360
we are talking about knowing our worth, knowing our worth. And this is

665
01:02:20.440 --> 01:02:25.079
the final installment, I believe for
now of the conversations we've been having led

666
01:02:25.199 --> 01:02:31.920
by Alison a Wuku bringing down strongholds. Allison, we were just talking offline

667
01:02:31.960 --> 01:02:37.679
about how fall and deep and rich
these discussions are, and you're saying that

668
01:02:37.960 --> 01:02:43.239
you are You're interested in bringing things
back to basic, and I think that's

669
01:02:43.280 --> 01:02:46.880
what you've done. High level sometimes
goes over our heads, or we get

670
01:02:46.960 --> 01:02:51.800
so caught up in high level that
we don't remember the basic building blocks and

671
01:02:51.920 --> 01:02:55.039
so that's kind of what you've been
sharing with us. Why don't I hand

672
01:02:55.039 --> 01:02:59.800
it back over to you. Okay, thank you so much, Sania.

673
01:03:00.920 --> 01:03:07.760
Okay, So we're going to look
at ways in which, as humans we

674
01:03:08.559 --> 01:03:14.960
normally define who we are. I
started off by saying, think about who

675
01:03:15.119 --> 01:03:21.239
are you? How has your past
or present experiences, how do they impact

676
01:03:21.320 --> 01:03:24.360
on who you are? And what
do you think a critical is. So

677
01:03:24.559 --> 01:03:30.000
let's just look at how generally,
you know, as humans, we commonly

678
01:03:30.440 --> 01:03:36.800
kind of define who we are.
And this is kind of you know,

679
01:03:37.679 --> 01:03:45.599
in the nineteenth centuary nineteenth twentieth century, there were three great philosophers who I

680
01:03:45.719 --> 01:03:51.239
think most of us have heard of, and you know, they kind of

681
01:03:52.000 --> 01:04:01.559
were really crucial or critical instrumental in
defining human human identity. We have cal

682
01:04:01.719 --> 01:04:08.480
Max. Cal Max, who a
lot of people would have heard of.

683
01:04:08.599 --> 01:04:13.679
Cal Max he said, money is
the principal things, that principal thing that

684
01:04:13.800 --> 01:04:19.079
defines a human So money, money
is the defining drive in human nature,

685
01:04:19.880 --> 01:04:25.760
where each one of us is a
creature of create, create, creature of

686
01:04:25.960 --> 01:04:31.519
money. And so we need money
to kind of engage in the exchange of

687
01:04:31.599 --> 01:04:40.039
goods and services and in order to
kind of really define our wealth and who

688
01:04:40.159 --> 01:04:46.119
we are, we need to think
about purchasing ability. So that was his

689
01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:54.760
main kind of thinking in terms of
like defining us us as humans, which

690
01:04:54.840 --> 01:05:00.519
is quite quite interesting. I know
that money is is the focus for a

691
01:05:00.599 --> 01:05:05.599
lot of people, even for us
as Christians. And you know a lot

692
01:05:05.679 --> 01:05:13.000
of people kind of determine their level
of importance by how much money they have,

693
01:05:14.119 --> 01:05:17.280
how much they can actually purchase,
the size of their houses, the

694
01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:24.079
make and models of their cars.
Well, I'll leave you to think about

695
01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:28.599
that. What do you think do
you think that you know your ability to

696
01:05:28.760 --> 01:05:39.480
purchase is what defines you as a
person. We have Nietzsche, Frederick Nietzsche,

697
01:05:39.880 --> 01:05:45.679
and his philosophy or his thinking was
that the key thing that defines the

698
01:05:45.880 --> 01:05:50.079
human is the will to power.
Okay, so at the core of what

699
01:05:50.280 --> 01:05:58.599
we are as humans is our desire
to have power and to control things.

700
01:05:59.840 --> 01:06:03.039
I know that power is another thing
we have. You know, we have

701
01:06:03.280 --> 01:06:09.079
power in the world, we have
power in the church. We have you

702
01:06:09.159 --> 01:06:14.960
know, people wanting to be powerful
in our in our social social groups,

703
01:06:15.440 --> 01:06:23.320
within our various communities. You know, title power how other people see you

704
01:06:24.119 --> 01:06:29.559
is very important to some people.
And that was Niches kind of focus.

705
01:06:29.679 --> 01:06:33.119
He's thinking was, well, that's
what drives the human being, our ability

706
01:06:33.719 --> 01:06:39.920
ability to power. And we can
go and negotiate with other people, with

707
01:06:40.079 --> 01:06:45.760
other nations on how we kind of
distribute this power. And you know,

708
01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:50.519
then power becomes such such an important
thing. And I know that for many

709
01:06:50.639 --> 01:06:55.480
people out there, you know,
if they ask you, you know,

710
01:06:55.639 --> 01:06:59.719
tell me a bit about yourself,
they'll start by saying, well, you

711
01:06:59.800 --> 01:07:04.880
know, i'm a manager here or
I'm a director there, and that immediately

712
01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:11.760
starts to form an impression on the
other person's mind as to how important you

713
01:07:11.960 --> 01:07:16.039
are. So is it money that
defines you as a person? Is it

714
01:07:16.239 --> 01:07:25.480
power that defines you as a person. We have yet another great kind of

715
01:07:25.760 --> 01:07:33.000
name out there, and that's Sigmund
Freud. And Freud's kind of philosophy was

716
01:07:33.119 --> 01:07:42.119
that sexuality is the key problem of
when people don't act or behave correctly,

717
01:07:42.159 --> 01:07:46.840
it's because something is wrong with them
sexually. So the behavior of the human

718
01:07:46.960 --> 01:07:53.679
being in sexual matters is often a
prototype of how there will behave in all

719
01:07:53.840 --> 01:07:58.679
other issues of life. Now,
you know, I know that, you

720
01:07:58.760 --> 01:08:02.320
know, the world of psychology has
moved on since the days of Freud.

721
01:08:02.719 --> 01:08:08.280
Freud is known as the father of
psycho analysis, and you know, he's

722
01:08:08.360 --> 01:08:14.760
got his place in history as a
very great as a great thinker. Sexuality.

723
01:08:14.960 --> 01:08:18.920
There's a lot out there about,
you know, sexuality. You know

724
01:08:19.079 --> 01:08:26.560
people that really define some people.
People have communities that that belong to depending

725
01:08:26.640 --> 01:08:33.960
on their sexual preferences or sexual orientation. And I guess the question is,

726
01:08:35.079 --> 01:08:41.560
how does that determine who you are? Is that the thing that determines who

727
01:08:41.640 --> 01:08:45.119
you are as a human being?
Or if something's not going right in your

728
01:08:45.239 --> 01:08:49.840
life, is it because there's a
the problem, there's a problem somewhere in

729
01:08:49.960 --> 01:08:58.800
your sexual developments, because that was
Freud's philosophy. So all of these three

730
01:08:59.039 --> 01:09:06.239
things, money, sex power can
be quite limiting in terms of the criteria

731
01:09:06.359 --> 01:09:13.199
for defining ourselves. And when that's
how we see ourselves. If it's money

732
01:09:13.279 --> 01:09:16.399
is what defines me, power is
what defines me, sex is what defines

733
01:09:16.479 --> 01:09:26.039
me, then we potentially can that
potentially can become a stronghold. We can

734
01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:33.479
very very quickly start to experience low
self low self esteem, because somewhere along

735
01:09:33.560 --> 01:09:39.000
the lines, there will always be
somebody with more power, there will always

736
01:09:39.079 --> 01:09:43.920
be somebody with more money, and
there will always be somebody for whose sexual

737
01:09:44.960 --> 01:09:50.000
issues is a problem. So you
know, if that's the kind of benchmark

738
01:09:50.159 --> 01:09:57.479
that we're using to determine or define
ourselves as humans, then we are not

739
01:09:57.640 --> 01:10:02.079
really appreciating who we are fully and
we cannot be fully accepting of who we

740
01:10:02.199 --> 01:10:09.680
are and embrace who we are as
humans. So then that it starts to

741
01:10:09.720 --> 01:10:15.399
become a stronghold, a stronghold of
low self worth. Then we don't really

742
01:10:15.600 --> 01:10:17.880
know our word. And like we
said at the start of the program,

743
01:10:19.159 --> 01:10:23.680
Christ said in John eight thirty two, then you will know the truth,

744
01:10:24.119 --> 01:10:28.640
and the truth will set you free. So what's the truth about who we

745
01:10:28.840 --> 01:10:33.119
are? How do we get to
know the truth in terms of knowing our

746
01:10:33.239 --> 01:10:39.840
worth, in terms of understanding our
wealth. When we are in the stronghold

747
01:10:40.119 --> 01:10:44.960
held in the stronghold of low self
worth, low self esteem, we need

748
01:10:45.119 --> 01:10:51.039
to understand what the cause is that's
keeping that stronghold alive. Is it money?

749
01:10:53.199 --> 01:10:56.640
Is it? Sex? Is it? Power? Is it because while

750
01:10:56.760 --> 01:11:02.720
viewing our self important and self work
through the lens of money, only how

751
01:11:02.840 --> 01:11:08.199
much money we have, how much
purchasing power we have? Is it because

752
01:11:08.439 --> 01:11:13.600
we're viewing our self importance through the
lens of power, how much power and

753
01:11:13.760 --> 01:11:17.920
authority we have or is it because
we're you know, just we reduced ourselves

754
01:11:17.960 --> 01:11:24.800
to just being sexual beings. There
is a strong man behind the stronghold,

755
01:11:25.560 --> 01:11:31.159
a dominant negative force that keeps a
person captive. What is it in the

756
01:11:31.239 --> 01:11:39.560
case of low self worth? It's
really important that we understand that, you

757
01:11:39.640 --> 01:11:42.520
know, money is a good thing. So I'm not sitting here saying,

758
01:11:42.640 --> 01:11:45.159
oh, you know, we should
all before we shouldn't have money. God

759
01:11:45.319 --> 01:11:54.000
absolutely wants us to kind of experience
his abundant blessings and favor. Abraham was

760
01:11:54.039 --> 01:11:58.319
a rich man, Job was a
rich man that many examples of people in

761
01:11:58.439 --> 01:12:03.880
the Bible, Solomon, they had
wealth. Okay, So whire not here

762
01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:10.399
saying don't have money. But what
we're saying is and we're not saying don't

763
01:12:10.479 --> 01:12:13.840
have power, And we're not saying
sex is not a good thing. You

764
01:12:13.920 --> 01:12:18.640
know, God wants us your crisis, all authority and power is given onto

765
01:12:18.760 --> 01:12:23.199
me, and he says, go, Therefore, the kind of power that

766
01:12:23.319 --> 01:12:28.000
we need is the power of God's
law. Okay, So that sort of

767
01:12:28.119 --> 01:12:31.159
power should be what drives us,
and that's the power God has. He

768
01:12:31.239 --> 01:12:36.359
says, you know, he's able
to do exceedingly and abundantly above all we

769
01:12:36.520 --> 01:12:42.119
can imagine according to the power of
His love. So power is not a

770
01:12:42.199 --> 01:12:45.319
bad thing necessarily, it's what type
of power do we have and where is

771
01:12:45.399 --> 01:12:50.159
it coming from, and what's the
motive behind exercising the power that we have.

772
01:12:50.800 --> 01:12:55.560
Sex is not a bad thing God, God is the one who designs,

773
01:12:55.600 --> 01:12:59.479
who created sex. You know,
fundamentally, it's one of the most

774
01:12:59.520 --> 01:13:03.239
beautiful things done in the right way, under the right circumstances. So I'm

775
01:13:03.279 --> 01:13:09.439
not saying that you know, don't
have sex, so don't identify yourself as

776
01:13:09.520 --> 01:13:15.119
a sexual being. Of course that's
coming from God. But what's really really

777
01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:19.359
important to understand is that I am
more than my money. I am more

778
01:13:19.399 --> 01:13:25.199
than my power, and I am
more than my sexuality. I am a

779
01:13:25.359 --> 01:13:31.119
product of and operate from God's love. As long as God's love is the

780
01:13:31.399 --> 01:13:35.800
center of your money, of how
you know, how you kind of manage

781
01:13:35.880 --> 01:13:41.000
your money, as long as God's
love is the center of the power that

782
01:13:41.199 --> 01:13:45.880
you have, as long as God's
love is the focus of your sexual activity

783
01:13:46.199 --> 01:13:54.239
and how he wants you to conduct
yourself in within your sexuality, then you

784
01:13:54.479 --> 01:13:58.920
know that you are more than the
money, the power and the sexuality.

785
01:13:59.039 --> 01:14:03.680
You're of God himself, and God
is above all of those things. So

786
01:14:03.800 --> 01:14:08.520
all of those things are good as
long as that are coming from the place

787
01:14:08.720 --> 01:14:14.720
of God's love and God's will.
So what does it mean to know our

788
01:14:14.840 --> 01:14:19.279
true word? Knowing our true work
is knowing who we are in Christ.

789
01:14:20.239 --> 01:14:26.800
Because when we are thinking about ourselves
just in terms of who we are,

790
01:14:27.159 --> 01:14:31.159
how we perceive ourselves, or how
other perceive other people perceive us we are,

791
01:14:31.960 --> 01:14:38.239
we will from time to time be
burdened with thoughts and beliefs such as,

792
01:14:38.680 --> 01:14:41.680
well, I can't do this,
or I'm not worthy, or I

793
01:14:41.840 --> 01:14:45.760
must be perfect, or nobody loves
me, I'm not good enough, I

794
01:14:45.920 --> 01:14:51.520
must not make a mistake. And
then we come down heavy on ourselves and

795
01:14:51.680 --> 01:14:57.880
criticize ourselves when we make a mistake
or we think we're not good enough,

796
01:14:57.960 --> 01:15:03.359
and we're having all of these thoughts
in Christ. When we understand our weorth

797
01:15:03.520 --> 01:15:09.159
in Christ, we understand that we
are worth more than all of our self

798
01:15:09.279 --> 01:15:15.479
doubts and that our self esteem is
secure when it's based on the opinion of

799
01:15:15.920 --> 01:15:24.520
Christ, of our creator. So
knowing our true worth is knowing who we

800
01:15:24.720 --> 01:15:29.359
are in Christ, knowing what the
Bible, the word of God says about

801
01:15:29.520 --> 01:15:34.399
us. That's how we bring down
the stronghold of low self worth when we

802
01:15:34.560 --> 01:15:41.399
commit ourselves to the truth of what
God says about us. I have made

803
01:15:41.439 --> 01:15:45.119
you fearfully and wonderfully. Before I
found you in the womb, I knew

804
01:15:45.199 --> 01:15:48.720
you, and I set you apart. I know the plans I have for

805
01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:54.279
your, plans of good to give
you hope and the future. And when

806
01:15:54.319 --> 01:16:00.239
we know these truths, then we
can kind of conform to them, and

807
01:16:00.760 --> 01:16:06.720
we can rely on them to reflect
our true potential. And then if anybody

808
01:16:06.800 --> 01:16:10.800
is telling us things like I don't
think you're ever going to make it,

809
01:16:10.920 --> 01:16:14.399
I don't think you're good enough,
I don't think we don't have to believe

810
01:16:14.479 --> 01:16:20.399
those lies. We need to fight
back those lies or any destructive information with

811
01:16:20.560 --> 01:16:26.600
the truth from God's words. What
does God say about me? And using

812
01:16:26.720 --> 01:16:31.399
the right weapons. It means using
God's promises. It means using God's words

813
01:16:31.800 --> 01:16:38.000
to fight back the lies that come
from the enemy. Really, and Christ,

814
01:16:38.199 --> 01:16:42.000
remember said you will know the truth, and the truth will set you

815
01:16:42.159 --> 01:16:47.840
free. So let's remember that you
know we are new in Christ. Second

816
01:16:47.920 --> 01:16:55.800
Corinthians five seventeen says Therefore, if
anyone is in Christ, they are a

817
01:16:55.920 --> 01:17:00.279
new creation. The new has come
and the old has gone. Our wealth

818
01:17:00.520 --> 01:17:05.399
is not really of the self at
all. Rather, it's our web is

819
01:17:05.479 --> 01:17:13.279
given to us by God. We
are inestimable. We are of inestimable value

820
01:17:13.359 --> 01:17:18.000
to God, and God has said
in efficients to tend that we are his

821
01:17:18.199 --> 01:17:23.920
master piece. He has created us
a new in Christ Jesus, so we

822
01:17:24.039 --> 01:17:29.279
can do good works and do the
things that He plans for us to do.

823
01:17:30.479 --> 01:17:33.199
So, if the sun sets you
free, you will be free.

824
01:17:33.439 --> 01:17:40.720
Indeed, And the will of God
is that you see yourself the way that

825
01:17:40.920 --> 01:17:45.720
He sees you, and you see
other people in the way that He sees

826
01:17:45.840 --> 01:17:50.600
them. And that way we will
understand that our wealth is not just in

827
01:17:50.760 --> 01:17:56.039
the things that people say, in
the circumstances around us, or in the

828
01:17:56.159 --> 01:18:01.920
things that we have. Our wealth
is in our value as God created us

829
01:18:02.159 --> 01:18:05.920
in his image and in his likeness. And that's the only way we can

830
01:18:06.119 --> 01:18:13.560
really really start to experience abundant life. So the conclusion of the matter is

831
01:18:13.640 --> 01:18:18.439
that all is well in my world. I am grateful, I am enough.

832
01:18:20.159 --> 01:18:25.960
So when we see ourselves as not
good enough, when we have low

833
01:18:26.079 --> 01:18:30.319
self worth. Let's remember that that
can be a stronghold that holds us down.

834
01:18:31.079 --> 01:18:38.000
And you know we are with more
than the most precious stone, more

835
01:18:38.079 --> 01:18:42.520
than diamonds, more than rubies.
We are worth more than that. And

836
01:18:42.680 --> 01:18:46.920
let's fight the lies of the enemy, because though we walk in the flesh,

837
01:18:47.359 --> 01:18:51.560
we do not war according to the
flesh. For the weapons of our

838
01:18:51.640 --> 01:18:57.720
warfare, and not Canal but Mighty
through God, to the pulling down of

839
01:18:57.880 --> 01:19:05.279
strongholds, casting down imaginations and every
high thought that exalts itself against the knowledge

840
01:19:05.319 --> 01:19:10.600
of God. And those thoughts that
tell you you're not good enough, those

841
01:19:10.680 --> 01:19:14.079
thoughts that tell you you're never going
to make it, those thoughts that tell

842
01:19:14.159 --> 01:19:18.039
you your eperial, those are not
from God. We need to bring every

843
01:19:18.239 --> 01:19:28.199
thought into captivity to the obedience of
Christ. And that concludes this discussion.

844
01:19:28.479 --> 01:19:33.479
Thank you for this presentation, Allison, Alison Angela. I'm going to take

845
01:19:33.760 --> 01:19:38.880
a song break, let that resonate
a little bit, and then we'll come

846
01:19:38.920 --> 01:19:43.560
back and unpack what you've just said. All things. Franklin Angela, that

847
01:19:43.800 --> 01:19:47.920
was your selection. What's what's good
about this song? What do you like

848
01:19:47.960 --> 01:19:56.720
about it? I took I took
it as well as your as one of

849
01:19:56.800 --> 01:20:00.840
your favorites, but it could just
be one that suits the okay. And

850
01:20:00.920 --> 01:20:04.279
I think it just kind of he's
kind of he starts up and is talking,

851
01:20:04.319 --> 01:20:05.920
and I think it's just kind of, you know, saying, you

852
01:20:05.960 --> 01:20:10.720
know, at the end of the
day, what's basically you're talking about reflecting

853
01:20:10.760 --> 01:20:13.119
on the things that you might be
going through. So it kind of just

854
01:20:13.239 --> 01:20:16.159
made me think, you know,
in terms of some of the areas that

855
01:20:16.199 --> 01:20:20.159
I've been talking about, and it's
a bit of a sometimes I have to

856
01:20:20.199 --> 01:20:25.920
sit down and reflect about what's been
happening and really then reminding you that actually

857
01:20:26.479 --> 01:20:29.760
some days may not be easy,
but there are ways to make it through

858
01:20:30.600 --> 01:20:33.600
and through all things. Through God
and Christ, who enables us to strengthen

859
01:20:33.760 --> 01:20:36.119
us, we can make it through. So I think it was you know,

860
01:20:36.199 --> 01:20:41.079
sometimes you're hearing music and some things
the words to strike you all the

861
01:20:41.199 --> 01:20:43.960
thoughts, and I think it linked
him quite nicely if I remember right least.

862
01:20:44.000 --> 01:20:49.479
So well, let's hear from correctracting
all things. Can I talk to

863
01:20:49.600 --> 01:20:56.760
you? I know you've got some
questions, what's the hardest thing you're going

864
01:20:56.840 --> 01:21:03.399
through? To stalking by pain?
Talking about my life when with a change,

865
01:21:03.840 --> 01:21:11.279
talking about all things. I can
do all things, talking about night

866
01:21:11.439 --> 01:21:15.920
something knows a way and my dreams
telling me an erase, talking about all

867
01:21:16.079 --> 01:21:21.720
things I said, I can do
all things. I understand it, talking

868
01:21:21.920 --> 01:21:32.359
as it always be so good and
no one ever let you down, talking

869
01:21:32.359 --> 01:21:38.880
about all things, all the biggin
of small things. I'm so sure I

870
01:21:38.920 --> 01:21:47.279
can do all things, talking about
dousand my mind. I'm out of funds,

871
01:21:47.720 --> 01:21:53.319
lout of time. I need a
blessing. I need you to do

872
01:21:53.479 --> 01:22:03.279
all things. See understand that at
all, just in case I'm as never

873
01:22:05.640 --> 01:22:11.039
Yes, talking about all things,
all things, they get the sault things.

874
01:22:12.720 --> 01:22:21.359
I can do all things. Now
about all things, the small things.

875
01:22:21.800 --> 01:22:28.359
Let's go I can do things.
Just because he's silent time doesn't mean

876
01:22:28.399 --> 01:22:32.319
that he's still. He's not only
preparing it for you, he's preparing you

877
01:22:32.439 --> 01:22:44.880
for it. Let's go at things
things to you. Never blessings on things

878
01:22:44.920 --> 01:22:55.560
for you things, get the things
he sees you. Yes, lessings on

879
01:22:56.399 --> 01:23:02.279
you see the black since coming,
we had to get your wedding for it.

880
01:23:08.680 --> 01:23:16.760
What are we talking about? What
are we talking about? Come on,

881
01:23:16.920 --> 01:23:33.600
say a can't people saying can't you
shot? I think it's a possible

882
01:23:35.760 --> 01:23:55.000
kick you can't you my how you
talking about gott you shot rap by?

883
01:23:55.239 --> 01:23:59.079
He's a good god. He's a
good Come on, he's a good god.

884
01:23:59.159 --> 01:24:06.199
He's a good god. Come oh, And I'm gonna be honest with.

885
01:24:06.439 --> 01:24:14.800
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892
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are here to listen. King of our

893
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kids born in a mad the quick
story talk he walked on the earth.

894
01:25:45.239 --> 01:25:57.880
A carpenter came to fix my bro
and salt Chian sl cake. You paid

895
01:25:58.680 --> 01:26:27.720
little of the cross with blood paint
jomlanstere southlass love hay on the tree farming

896
01:26:30.880 --> 01:26:47.399
jup down stretched arms for track fall
round to see southless love, hang on

897
01:26:48.159 --> 01:27:17.159
a tree farming the patients dot of
creation. Master call to every ja.

898
01:27:17.720 --> 01:27:30.880
He had your whistling Kate to fill. I am so chance walk kid,

899
01:27:30.800 --> 01:27:51.079
you have a dot cost Smith.
You're a shabby reason last and we service

900
01:27:51.439 --> 01:28:32.800
loves had shot mo yours so listen
was hand shames got here. I that

901
01:28:35.920 --> 01:28:50.319
tack my God. But you,
I said, many call my cat,

902
01:28:53.520 --> 01:29:38.039
I say your birthday cancer gets when
you made sim it's your escape and your

903
01:29:38.159 --> 01:29:59.720
love. It's you com back cross
with blood cup, it's your mast Sai

904
01:30:12.439 --> 01:30:19.560
fun beautifully done there by Ashman Hill, your masterpiece, and just a reminder

905
01:30:19.680 --> 01:30:27.600
that we are confident we are victorious
only by God love for us and through

906
01:30:27.800 --> 01:30:32.520
Christ Jesus who died on the cross
for us to have victory and life eternal.

907
01:30:33.479 --> 01:30:39.399
We had a very good discussion there, Allison. As always, you

908
01:30:39.560 --> 01:30:47.079
filled us up with information and details
sent us out. So Angela, tell

909
01:30:47.079 --> 01:30:51.560
me a little bit about what you've
got from that last portion of what Allison

910
01:30:51.600 --> 01:30:57.960
shared with us. I think just
to go back just before, where as

911
01:30:58.000 --> 01:31:00.760
I'm talking about the fact that you
know, some times the aspects of our

912
01:31:00.800 --> 01:31:04.279
self esteem and the way we think
about that can use us a vicious cycle

913
01:31:04.920 --> 01:31:09.720
and everything sort of links around,
whether that's the way of our call beliefs,

914
01:31:10.680 --> 01:31:14.239
the behaviors that then stem from that, and then how that kind of

915
01:31:14.319 --> 01:31:15.680
you know, impacts everything that we
do. So it is a real vicious

916
01:31:15.680 --> 01:31:19.319
cycle that we really have to try
and break. And it's been quite interesting,

917
01:31:19.399 --> 01:31:25.119
so interesting to see those three sort
of theorists around things that define yourself,

918
01:31:26.560 --> 01:31:29.199
money, power, and sex,
and actually you see that that played

919
01:31:29.199 --> 01:31:34.520
out in sony aspects of life.
While those things are important, again,

920
01:31:34.560 --> 01:31:38.720
if you're not getting the balance right, how those things can you know,

921
01:31:39.079 --> 01:31:44.640
potentially be those strongholds could be our
downfall as well. But again it is

922
01:31:44.720 --> 01:31:47.079
going back to the idea of knowing
what the truth is and that truth will

923
01:31:47.079 --> 01:31:51.600
set you three in in terms of
how you're going to be able to turn

924
01:31:51.680 --> 01:31:59.000
around those negative impacts that play into
your self esteem and knowing our true worth

925
01:31:59.039 --> 01:32:00.479
and I love I love that sort
of there was a sentence there on the

926
01:32:00.560 --> 01:32:02.760
side that you're say, you know, you're more than the money, You're

927
01:32:02.800 --> 01:32:06.279
more than the power, and your
sexuality. You know, I'm on a

928
01:32:06.319 --> 01:32:11.840
product that and may operate from God's
love and that's ultimately what it is.

929
01:32:12.000 --> 01:32:15.880
You know, without him, all
of those things could pay into into comparison.

930
01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:18.600
Really those things very important. But
you know, we've got to know

931
01:32:19.079 --> 01:32:24.720
we're talking about knowing the truth and
where all of that comes from. And

932
01:32:24.960 --> 01:32:28.199
actually, you know, we're more
than and ultimately we're more than all of

933
01:32:28.279 --> 01:32:32.680
these things that become us have become
our strongholds and negative thoughts. You know,

934
01:32:33.000 --> 01:32:36.119
if we if our self esteem is
secure, it's going to be based

935
01:32:36.159 --> 01:32:40.880
on, you know, the opinion
of God rather than man. And you

936
01:32:40.960 --> 01:32:43.800
know, because a text that sage
I didn't be conformed to the things of

937
01:32:43.840 --> 01:32:47.840
the world. Sometimes it's very easy
to hear all those messages and that gets

938
01:32:47.880 --> 01:32:51.319
clouded by what we know God really
thinks about us. You know, I'm

939
01:32:51.359 --> 01:32:56.199
sure if we were to try and
counter we'd be able to counteract those negative

940
01:32:56.239 --> 01:33:00.760
thoughts three four, five times over
with all the promise and things that God

941
01:33:00.800 --> 01:33:02.760
tells us about ourselves. But it's
so easy to be listening to that,

942
01:33:02.800 --> 01:33:09.760
and I kind of sometimes wonder why
Sometimes it's so easy to really hear those

943
01:33:09.840 --> 01:33:14.760
negative things, and we can be
quite uncomfortable with the positive things that sometimes

944
01:33:15.039 --> 01:33:17.760
are said to us, the things
that can kind of boost our self esteem

945
01:33:18.840 --> 01:33:21.720
there's compliments, there's people who are
telling you about you know, that you've

946
01:33:21.720 --> 01:33:26.439
done a good job and your achievements. We're really uncomfortable with that, and

947
01:33:26.520 --> 01:33:28.760
I have to wonder why. I
mean, maybe it could be from you

948
01:33:28.840 --> 01:33:31.359
know, where it's swimming from somewhere. Maybe you've not grown up in an

949
01:33:31.439 --> 01:33:35.880
environment or you're not being surrounded by
that. But we find it really difficult

950
01:33:35.960 --> 01:33:40.680
to tell ourselves those things, you
know, much less anybody else hearing it.

951
01:33:40.880 --> 01:33:45.039
But yeah, so that you know, it's very easy to think very

952
01:33:45.119 --> 01:33:48.520
negative of ourself. And I think
you know, I always say to it

953
01:33:48.600 --> 01:33:51.479
when I'm talking to my own students. You know, practice some positive self

954
01:33:51.600 --> 01:33:56.359
talk, you know, big yourself
up, you know, praise yourself,

955
01:33:56.399 --> 01:33:58.960
give yourself a pat on the shoulder, because if nobody else is doing it,

956
01:33:59.039 --> 01:34:04.680
for you to blind that, but
you've got to be able to do

957
01:34:04.800 --> 01:34:09.159
that is up or cheerleader. And
again it's about keeping the balance. And

958
01:34:09.239 --> 01:34:12.439
as Allison said before, sometimes if
we're not careful, it can go the

959
01:34:12.520 --> 01:34:15.760
other way. You know, this
is not about being conceited and you know,

960
01:34:15.880 --> 01:34:18.680
feeling self grandiose and all that kind
of stuff, but you know,

961
01:34:18.720 --> 01:34:23.760
it's about keeping it balanced. All
around, but again knowing our self worth

962
01:34:23.840 --> 01:34:27.680
then where that's coming from. We're
made in God's image. There's something great

963
01:34:27.720 --> 01:34:30.159
about that which is to be able
to recognize and accept that, but again

964
01:34:30.319 --> 01:34:33.119
keeping it really balance. And I'm
just thinking loads of textbook comingto minds.

965
01:34:33.399 --> 01:34:36.880
Actually that can kind of remind us
of all of those things which all sort

966
01:34:36.880 --> 01:34:40.720
of scrolled down. But I guess
you know, and I like to also

967
01:34:40.760 --> 01:34:43.760
where you were saying, you know, committing to the truth, conforming to

968
01:34:43.880 --> 01:34:47.920
the truth, confront those negative thoughts
and fight back and then you know,

969
01:34:47.920 --> 01:34:53.079
obviously using those the correct tools and
the weapon end to really fight against those

970
01:34:54.640 --> 01:34:58.079
you know, relying on God's word
and these promises and interesting, I just

971
01:34:58.159 --> 01:35:00.439
have a text as well where there's
a couple of text that do you say

972
01:35:00.520 --> 01:35:03.520
that God is our stronghold, going
back to that kind of idea that a

973
01:35:03.600 --> 01:35:08.760
stronghold can be there for protection.
If we've got the right stronghold, i

974
01:35:08.880 --> 01:35:11.720
e. God, who is for
us, he's fighting for us, he's

975
01:35:11.760 --> 01:35:15.239
protecting us, then that's what that's
going to be our firm foundation. And

976
01:35:15.319 --> 01:35:19.720
actually that's the real purpose of the
stronghold. Then you know, has the

977
01:35:20.239 --> 01:35:26.319
positive effects hopefully on that as well. Yeah, and I can't think of

978
01:35:26.359 --> 01:35:28.800
the text now, I just had
it in front of me. But there's

979
01:35:28.800 --> 01:35:30.840
a couple that meant to the word
stronghold, but in a really positive light,

980
01:35:31.279 --> 01:35:33.800
which ultimately that's you know, we
want to do to counteract with the

981
01:35:33.880 --> 01:35:38.960
negative strongholds are holding us back.
And ultimately, you know, when we

982
01:35:39.039 --> 01:35:42.640
think about talking about the promises as
well, there are so many that kind

983
01:35:42.720 --> 01:35:45.079
of remind us that, you know, we can overcome. We're more than

984
01:35:45.159 --> 01:35:50.680
conquerors. And in fact, there's
one in actually Psalm's eighteen twenty nine interesting

985
01:35:50.680 --> 01:35:54.359
he says, again, this is
back to the visual of the war high

986
01:35:54.439 --> 01:35:57.800
walls and the strongholds. You know, with your help, I can at

987
01:35:57.800 --> 01:36:00.199
advance against a troop. With my
God, I can scale a wall.

988
01:36:00.760 --> 01:36:04.680
So again, you know, those
things don't have to be obstacles that we

989
01:36:04.840 --> 01:36:10.319
can't overcome if we've got God,
who's you know, fighting the battle alongside

990
01:36:10.399 --> 01:36:13.920
us or in front of us and
behind us and all around us. So

991
01:36:14.600 --> 01:36:16.640
yeah, there's, yeah, there's
a lot to be said about how we

992
01:36:16.720 --> 01:36:23.119
can kind of use these words to
be to use those weapons, as we

993
01:36:23.199 --> 01:36:27.399
said in the Right what they Yeah, Joshua one nine you know, be

994
01:36:27.520 --> 01:36:30.199
strong and courageous, don't be afraid, you know, do not being discouraged.

995
01:36:30.239 --> 01:36:33.039
For the Lord your God will be
with you wherever you go. And

996
01:36:33.159 --> 01:36:35.880
as much as I'm saying this,
I recognize that it's not always that easy,

997
01:36:35.960 --> 01:36:40.600
because it's so easy to forget.
You know, the battle out there

998
01:36:40.720 --> 01:36:44.319
is real, you know, Satin
as a powerful being. You know we're

999
01:36:44.399 --> 01:36:47.880
up against his evil forces twenty four
to seven, you know, but you've

1000
01:36:47.880 --> 01:36:51.640
got to kind of just hobble on
and work at those things, and you

1001
01:36:51.720 --> 01:36:57.520
know, have those daily reminders,
you know, reset every day, try

1002
01:36:57.560 --> 01:37:01.760
and try again, and reach out
to people to help you with this as

1003
01:37:01.840 --> 01:37:05.119
well. You know, it's not
about misleading all by yourself. So yeah,

1004
01:37:05.239 --> 01:37:09.119
and Jem's there again for Maris.
Then we like that. And again,

1005
01:37:09.279 --> 01:37:12.279
you know, I think also I
think about things visual. I like

1006
01:37:12.359 --> 01:37:15.279
to write things down, will draw
things, so you know, the idea

1007
01:37:15.359 --> 01:37:18.479
that I can scale the wall,
or I can kind of break something down,

1008
01:37:18.640 --> 01:37:21.680
or actually I've got that kind of
you know, God's righteous right hand

1009
01:37:21.760 --> 01:37:25.439
holding me up or holding my hand
out, that kind of thing. The

1010
01:37:25.520 --> 01:37:28.800
kind of things that you know will
help me to kind of reflect on those

1011
01:37:28.840 --> 01:37:31.960
things. Those Strongholms. Yeah,
and and for me, it's it's that

1012
01:37:32.119 --> 01:37:38.520
last part that Allison shared about making
sure that all that we are is in

1013
01:37:38.640 --> 01:37:42.479
alignment with God and his love for
us, you know, putting power under

1014
01:37:42.520 --> 01:37:45.479
alignment, putting sex under alignment,
putting money under the alignment. It's all

1015
01:37:45.640 --> 01:37:48.760
from him, you know, to
be used wisely, to be used in

1016
01:37:48.800 --> 01:37:54.439
the right context. But we shouldn't
make we shouldn't let them take charge,

1017
01:37:55.000 --> 01:37:57.880
you know, God putting God first, and all other things will be added

1018
01:37:57.920 --> 01:38:00.760
on to us. And we've got
to make sure that that's the most important

1019
01:38:00.840 --> 01:38:05.319
thing in our lives, our relationship
with God and he loves us. And

1020
01:38:05.399 --> 01:38:11.000
I like Allison that you you always
sort of put that at the end,

1021
01:38:11.119 --> 01:38:14.000
that's the final word on it.
You know, whatever else we may be

1022
01:38:14.079 --> 01:38:17.279
able to do, and we'll talk
later about how we can leverage the resources

1023
01:38:17.720 --> 01:38:20.560
we know. We've got mind,
we've got Samaritans, we've got our own

1024
01:38:20.640 --> 01:38:26.119
cornerstone. I mean, you're available, and the experts are available. But

1025
01:38:27.279 --> 01:38:30.000
at the end, in the end, the final word comes from God.

1026
01:38:30.199 --> 01:38:34.640
We are who He says we are. You know, our confidence must come

1027
01:38:34.760 --> 01:38:40.079
from him. He came and died
so that we may have life, life

1028
01:38:40.159 --> 01:38:44.399
in its fullness, you know,
and we must make sure that we keep

1029
01:38:44.520 --> 01:38:48.960
that center in our lives. Really
really loved that, Allison. Let me

1030
01:38:49.039 --> 01:38:54.840
ask you go on, sorry him, WeLive we move than we have our

1031
01:38:54.960 --> 01:39:00.279
beings. Alison. Just we spoke
of and I want you to bring the

1032
01:39:00.359 --> 01:39:05.079
conversation to the forefront. We're talking
about what we can do within the churches.

1033
01:39:06.000 --> 01:39:10.439
A lot of the talk and a
lot of the conversations we have don't

1034
01:39:10.520 --> 01:39:18.039
necessarily pinpoint these issues or address these
issues. What's your word for maybe the

1035
01:39:18.159 --> 01:39:23.880
leaders who are listening. What what's
your advice for people who can make these

1036
01:39:24.239 --> 01:39:29.159
conversations happen? Where do you?
What's what's their place in our church community?

1037
01:39:30.319 --> 01:39:32.319
Because I bring back the question that
we had, I'm sorry, I

1038
01:39:32.359 --> 01:39:35.920
bring back the question that we have
at the top. Do we as people

1039
01:39:36.000 --> 01:39:40.520
of faith? Do we as Christians
struggle? And the answer is yes.

1040
01:39:40.960 --> 01:39:44.199
I still haven't heard from any other
day And I'm going to say it again.

1041
01:39:44.319 --> 01:39:48.039
Studio at adventis Radiat London, h
eight hope space and then your message.

1042
01:39:48.600 --> 01:39:53.600
But we know that as people of
faith, and I put my hand

1043
01:39:53.680 --> 01:39:57.119
up, I've struggled with one or
all of these at some point in my

1044
01:39:57.239 --> 01:40:01.840
life. It's for lack of faith, it's not for loving God. I

1045
01:40:01.960 --> 01:40:08.000
mean, we are humans. What
place do we have do these conversations have

1046
01:40:08.680 --> 01:40:15.840
in the church? Long question?
Well, these conversations are crucial, are

1047
01:40:15.920 --> 01:40:20.319
crucial. These are things that our
everyday life. These are things that are

1048
01:40:20.399 --> 01:40:27.159
impacting off somehow. You know,
we sometimes have a dual reality where we

1049
01:40:27.319 --> 01:40:31.560
have Christian life as one aspect of
life and the other life. And you

1050
01:40:31.640 --> 01:40:38.119
know, when we turn up in
church, it's a different kind of aspect

1051
01:40:38.199 --> 01:40:42.119
to our life that we're experiencing.
And then outside of church, and I

1052
01:40:42.279 --> 01:40:50.279
think that we behold some theological issues
as quite abstract and something to be studied.

1053
01:40:51.039 --> 01:40:54.439
And I'm not saying that, you
know, that's the case is for

1054
01:40:54.520 --> 01:40:59.079
everybody. I'm saying sometimes, like
we have Bible studies, and after the

1055
01:40:59.159 --> 01:41:03.199
Bible studies sometimes you can see straight
after the Bible stunces people are arguing with

1056
01:41:03.359 --> 01:41:09.079
each other, and you know,
there's there's kind of issues. And I

1057
01:41:09.199 --> 01:41:13.079
want to say that, you know, these things are all about relationships.

1058
01:41:13.520 --> 01:41:17.439
God is about relationships. The Bible
is one big book of about relationships,

1059
01:41:17.880 --> 01:41:23.199
relating with God and relating with each
other, and all of these things that

1060
01:41:23.319 --> 01:41:28.600
we've talked about is in the context
of relationships. The kind of if we

1061
01:41:28.760 --> 01:41:33.920
start at trauma symptoms, anxiety issues, depression issues, they've you know,

1062
01:41:34.079 --> 01:41:42.640
relationships played it have played a big
role either in causing these issues or we

1063
01:41:42.880 --> 01:41:47.399
can play big role in resolving these
issues. Everything that we do is really

1064
01:41:47.439 --> 01:41:51.359
in the context of relationships. So
I think that we need to go back

1065
01:41:51.399 --> 01:41:57.079
to basics in our churches and we
need to look at what people are experiences

1066
01:41:57.399 --> 01:42:01.920
experiencing in life and create the space
for some of these conversations to happen.

1067
01:42:02.359 --> 01:42:10.800
I know that we've got kind of
fixed programs sometimes in church, but I

1068
01:42:10.960 --> 01:42:16.680
think that in order to have to
kind of leave out the example that Christ

1069
01:42:16.880 --> 01:42:21.479
left showed us, I think we
do need to create the spaces to have

1070
01:42:21.640 --> 01:42:27.239
some of these conversations and to kind
of understand each other. We're never going

1071
01:42:27.279 --> 01:42:30.479
to have uniformity in the church,
but we're going to have understanding. We're

1072
01:42:30.560 --> 01:42:36.199
going to have healthy relationship and crisis. By being united, the world will

1073
01:42:36.319 --> 01:42:42.199
see and know that we are God's
children. So when we come together,

1074
01:42:42.359 --> 01:42:46.479
when we can have an understanding,
support each other, build each other's wealth,

1075
01:42:46.680 --> 01:42:50.800
build because sometimes quite frankly, life
knocks us down and we need each

1076
01:42:50.840 --> 01:42:57.479
other. And rather than judging,
rather than criticizing, we can understand and

1077
01:42:57.600 --> 01:43:01.279
build up each other within the church. And you know, when we do

1078
01:43:01.479 --> 01:43:06.079
that, it's very easy for other
people outside of the child just come in.

1079
01:43:08.680 --> 01:43:13.119
So in that way, we're really
opening the door for anybody else and

1080
01:43:13.239 --> 01:43:16.600
everybody else. And you know,
the one thing that we have in common

1081
01:43:16.760 --> 01:43:21.479
as human beings is that we all
desire a sense of belonging. We each

1082
01:43:21.600 --> 01:43:29.239
one of us want to belong And
if we open ourselves our doors to everybody

1083
01:43:29.399 --> 01:43:33.199
to come in and feel a sense
of belonging, doesn't matter what fundamentally their

1084
01:43:33.319 --> 01:43:39.560
religious believes are. Just as people, Let's let's have a relationship. Let's

1085
01:43:39.640 --> 01:43:44.640
come together, and let's let's try
and understand each other and be be patient

1086
01:43:44.760 --> 01:43:48.600
with each other. And you know, really look at the example that Christ

1087
01:43:49.000 --> 01:43:53.640
showed us in terms of you know, how he lived his life, how

1088
01:43:53.720 --> 01:43:59.880
he accommodated people, how he was
compassionate to people, how he was listening

1089
01:44:00.279 --> 01:44:02.920
to people. It didn't matter who
it was, yes, you would always

1090
01:44:03.039 --> 01:44:12.199
listen. And I think those basic
fundamentals are really really crucial. So relating

1091
01:44:12.439 --> 01:44:17.199
effectively within our churches is really important. Yeah, it brings me back and

1092
01:44:17.239 --> 01:44:20.680
well, said Alison, it's a
thing that I always use. Sometimes we

1093
01:44:20.760 --> 01:44:25.880
can be so heavenly minded that we
are not earthly good. And you know

1094
01:44:26.399 --> 01:44:29.479
Pastorway used to say time and time
again on the program, we need to

1095
01:44:29.520 --> 01:44:31.359
open our doors twenty four to seven, you know, and if there is

1096
01:44:31.399 --> 01:44:38.239
no opportunity within the you know,
the structure of the current sort of programming

1097
01:44:38.319 --> 01:44:41.720
that we do on a Sabbath morning
and a Sabbath afternoon, then there's nothing

1098
01:44:41.720 --> 01:44:45.000
wrong with opening the door on a
Monday afternoon and having a workshop where we

1099
01:44:45.079 --> 01:44:47.680
can discuss these things, or a
Tuesday afternoon, you know, whenever it

1100
01:44:47.800 --> 01:44:51.079
may be, and just let people
know. And as you said, anybody

1101
01:44:51.159 --> 01:44:55.600
and everybody can utilize these tools.
You know, you don't have to be

1102
01:44:55.680 --> 01:45:00.239
a Christian to understand these principles.
And obviously we will end with word and

1103
01:45:00.359 --> 01:45:04.840
that's a good witnessing tool. But
everybody is struggling with one thing or the

1104
01:45:04.920 --> 01:45:09.640
other, and we need to be
able to make it practical and to make

1105
01:45:09.680 --> 01:45:15.520
it applicable to the ordinary person,
the everyday person, and using our I

1106
01:45:15.600 --> 01:45:18.479
mean, I remember this guy saying
to me listen if it was it farn

1107
01:45:18.640 --> 01:45:21.960
for the knife crime saying listen,
if you've got a space, let me

1108
01:45:23.039 --> 01:45:26.199
know. I'm looking for a space. I'm looking for a space to run

1109
01:45:26.319 --> 01:45:29.520
programs. I'm looking for a space
to do stuff with the young people.

1110
01:45:29.840 --> 01:45:32.199
And we've got so many closed up
spaces, you know, that we're not

1111
01:45:32.399 --> 01:45:36.119
utilizing, and so many programs that
we could be putting on just like this

1112
01:45:36.279 --> 01:45:43.600
one sort of help and equip our
members. So yes, if anyone's listening

1113
01:45:44.000 --> 01:45:46.560
that can make those decisions, we
really need to act on it. And

1114
01:45:46.680 --> 01:45:50.479
Jela, what do you think do
you think that people of faith can struggle

1115
01:45:50.520 --> 01:46:00.920
with depression or strongholds of any kind
the question as you're rolling eyes, obviously,

1116
01:46:00.640 --> 01:46:05.119
yeah, we do. I kind
of It's interesting that we're talking about

1117
01:46:05.159 --> 01:46:12.000
knowing yourself and your self esteem.
I think sometimes within Fraid communities, sometimes

1118
01:46:12.079 --> 01:46:15.760
the expectations of what are expectations or
the perception of what a Christian should be

1119
01:46:16.359 --> 01:46:19.880
that and itself can have a real
negative impact on your self esteem and worth

1120
01:46:20.159 --> 01:46:24.439
because you know, if I'm not
spiritually enough or I'm not doing the right

1121
01:46:24.520 --> 01:46:27.600
things, you know, I'm not
able to pray in the way that somebody

1122
01:46:27.680 --> 01:46:30.399
else prays or you know, I'm
not able to stand up and share my

1123
01:46:30.560 --> 01:46:33.239
faith in the way that I think
I should be doing all those kind of

1124
01:46:33.319 --> 01:46:38.359
things that in itself and have a
negative impact. And if we're not kind

1125
01:46:38.399 --> 01:46:42.159
of encouraging people, do you know
we talk about company you are, God

1126
01:46:42.279 --> 01:46:45.439
is expecting of who we are,
and it's a daily war and very development.

1127
01:46:45.760 --> 01:46:50.000
But I'm not sure sometimes our communities
that as well, they could do.

1128
01:46:50.760 --> 01:46:55.399
You know, we're talking about self
esteem and self worth, but actually

1129
01:46:55.640 --> 01:47:01.159
we have we have these kinds of
what's the word, expectations and standards that

1130
01:47:01.239 --> 01:47:04.199
we should all be meeting. And
whilst we kind of know those you know,

1131
01:47:04.399 --> 01:47:10.560
we're human, we're sinners, were
shot right, and often sometimes we

1132
01:47:10.600 --> 01:47:13.680
can be ostracized, you can be
criticized all of those things. You know,

1133
01:47:13.800 --> 01:47:15.159
we can be really critical. And
I speak for myself. You know

1134
01:47:15.279 --> 01:47:18.319
sometimes I know I see things and
I hear things, and I find myself

1135
01:47:18.399 --> 01:47:21.560
going to those places and I'm thinking, what am I doing? That can't

1136
01:47:21.600 --> 01:47:24.920
be the way to do that?
Because my question was really going to be,

1137
01:47:25.039 --> 01:47:29.640
you know, how can we support
other people to develop their self esteem?

1138
01:47:30.079 --> 01:47:31.279
You know? And again, you
know, people are coming from different

1139
01:47:31.319 --> 01:47:34.720
backgrounds, environments, you know,
how they've grown up. And obviously,

1140
01:47:34.800 --> 01:47:39.359
you know, when we think about
how we can share children's minds, you

1141
01:47:39.439 --> 01:47:43.119
know, we hopefully they have families
that are going to be loving, kind

1142
01:47:43.399 --> 01:47:45.920
being able to do that. But
as we get older, we're struggling with

1143
01:47:45.000 --> 01:47:47.640
stuff. So what practical things I
guess I wanted to find, you know,

1144
01:47:47.720 --> 01:47:51.720
what can we do to support our
friends or our family in practical ways

1145
01:47:51.760 --> 01:47:57.279
that can help us build that self
esteem, build it further, or build

1146
01:47:57.319 --> 01:48:00.319
it back up, because sometimes we've
had things that are and that can be

1147
01:48:00.399 --> 01:48:03.960
with any community, but you know, sometimes in the fair communities we sometimes

1148
01:48:04.000 --> 01:48:09.560
say that a lot. So that'd
been my question on there. I think

1149
01:48:09.720 --> 01:48:14.159
a lot of the time, a
lot of people do not feel seen unheard,

1150
01:48:15.000 --> 01:48:18.479
And you know, it's really things
as simple as you know, I

1151
01:48:18.680 --> 01:48:21.920
know that these days, a lot
of us have phones, and a lot

1152
01:48:23.000 --> 01:48:26.119
of us spend a lot of time
on our phones. And you know,

1153
01:48:26.399 --> 01:48:30.640
sometimes if people somebody's talking to you
you're on your phone, that person's not

1154
01:48:31.079 --> 01:48:39.000
feeling seen or hurt. So you
know, really kind of begin demonstrating that

1155
01:48:39.119 --> 01:48:46.359
you're actually present with somebody speaks volumes, there's a there's a lot about nonvable

1156
01:48:46.479 --> 01:48:51.640
communication that we don't actually take into
account our body language when they speak,

1157
01:48:53.119 --> 01:48:57.439
uh, you know, the way
that we're kind of facial expressions when they're

1158
01:48:57.479 --> 01:49:03.159
speaking to us. The attention for
those people who are okay with eye contact,

1159
01:49:03.720 --> 01:49:08.640
you know, really being the bebbel
not the non bbbel knots as well.

1160
01:49:09.119 --> 01:49:13.319
So just you know, and if
you're not available, just say,

1161
01:49:13.439 --> 01:49:16.560
you know, excuse me, can
we make some time later on when I've

1162
01:49:16.600 --> 01:49:20.600
got this time, because right now
I'm a bit distracted that, you know,

1163
01:49:20.880 --> 01:49:27.239
Valuing acknowledging that person is really important
because I think a lot of the

1164
01:49:27.359 --> 01:49:31.199
time were very distracted with some other
thing going on. But then also really

1165
01:49:31.279 --> 01:49:39.600
listening listening is major, and listening
to listening to understand, not listening to

1166
01:49:39.760 --> 01:49:44.520
respond, because a lot of time
we listen to formulating a response in our

1167
01:49:44.600 --> 01:49:46.920
minds as why listening, and the
other person can pick that up very quickly.

1168
01:49:47.520 --> 01:49:53.600
So really just listening to the other
person kind of paraphrasing and reflecting you

1169
01:49:53.720 --> 01:49:58.520
know, what they're telling you,
making sure that you're kind of actively listening

1170
01:49:58.880 --> 01:50:01.479
to the other person, tell that
they're important, tells them that what they

1171
01:50:01.640 --> 01:50:08.760
feel or what they're thinking or it's
it's you're acknowledging what processes they are going

1172
01:50:08.840 --> 01:50:13.319
through us valid you're acknowledging them as
human. And if if that's something that

1173
01:50:13.399 --> 01:50:17.560
they're not used to and it's something
that they start to kind of think about,

1174
01:50:17.600 --> 01:50:20.319
they start to think, well,
okay, I really felt good talking.

1175
01:50:21.079 --> 01:50:25.840
I mean, we must all have
had the experience where somebody kind of

1176
01:50:25.920 --> 01:50:28.880
spoke to us and then said,
thank you so much for being there.

1177
01:50:28.960 --> 01:50:32.880
Thank you, I really felt better
after we spoke. So just really being

1178
01:50:32.960 --> 01:50:39.720
they're really being present, really listening, and just also kind of validating,

1179
01:50:40.000 --> 01:50:45.760
acknowledging and validating what the other person
thinks. We don't have to agree with

1180
01:50:45.039 --> 01:50:50.920
what people believe that, you know, we can acknowledge and validate their own

1181
01:50:51.199 --> 01:50:56.399
processes, what they're thinking, what
they're believing, and you know, then

1182
01:50:56.840 --> 01:51:02.000
have a conversation. I think sometimes
we're very dismiss if it's subquentcial the subconscious,

1183
01:51:02.039 --> 01:51:06.039
we are very kind of like dismissive
or judgmental, and we don't really

1184
01:51:06.399 --> 01:51:11.159
kind of focus on listening or we
sayd oh, what's that person talking about?

1185
01:51:11.239 --> 01:51:15.239
But this this person has come from
somewhere to arrive at where they are,

1186
01:51:15.720 --> 01:51:18.560
so it's the it's the softer things. It's not you know, it's

1187
01:51:18.680 --> 01:51:23.960
not you don't have to go out
and buy things for people. And what

1188
01:51:24.119 --> 01:51:28.560
did Christ do? How many times
did Christ go to shopping centers to buy

1189
01:51:28.920 --> 01:51:31.760
stuff for people? He was just
present, he was paying attention, he

1190
01:51:31.960 --> 01:51:35.479
was listening to people. And sometimes
we think we have to do things,

1191
01:51:35.800 --> 01:51:39.960
we have to show that we're doing
this and doing that. I see a

1192
01:51:40.039 --> 01:51:44.520
lot of that on social media,
and sometimes it's good better ask the question,

1193
01:51:44.840 --> 01:51:46.920
who are you doing that for?
You doing that for yourself or are

1194
01:51:46.960 --> 01:51:50.199
you doing that for the other person. And when people start to feel like

1195
01:51:50.640 --> 01:51:56.600
you're not genuine in your your offer
of help or support for them, they

1196
01:51:57.439 --> 01:52:00.760
don't feel good about themselves. So, you know, make sure that if

1197
01:52:00.840 --> 01:52:04.800
you're doing something, or if you're
complimenting somebody, make sure that you're very

1198
01:52:04.880 --> 01:52:10.600
you're genuine about it. So it's
just the simple things again, it's back

1199
01:52:10.640 --> 01:52:15.199
to basics. It's being there for
people's validating people, respecting other human beings

1200
01:52:15.239 --> 01:52:19.479
as God's creation, regardless of who
they are, where they come from,

1201
01:52:19.600 --> 01:52:25.039
what they do. It's not our
business to kind of be judgmental, but

1202
01:52:25.159 --> 01:52:29.720
it's what God requires of us.
Is to be there and to be supportive

1203
01:52:29.840 --> 01:52:35.520
because he knew that that would kind
of make people feel worthy and that will

1204
01:52:35.680 --> 01:52:42.239
open their minds and allow the Holy
Spirit to kind of communicate with them.

1205
01:52:42.520 --> 01:52:46.079
So we can pave the way for
you know, people to be drawn closer

1206
01:52:46.159 --> 01:52:51.760
to God by just respecting, validating, listening, being authentic, being present,

1207
01:52:54.079 --> 01:53:00.760
present with them, and being there
for them. Love that peacefully,

1208
01:53:00.960 --> 01:53:05.520
beautifully. So yeah, you know, our self worth can also helping other

1209
01:53:05.600 --> 01:53:08.840
self worth as well, because I
think that as well. When we can

1210
01:53:08.880 --> 01:53:11.560
be supporting and help, that's good
for us as well, you know.

1211
01:53:11.800 --> 01:53:15.880
So yeah, definitely. Oh it's
been a it's been a really positive end

1212
01:53:16.119 --> 01:53:19.800
to our series. I think before
we do go, though, I want

1213
01:53:19.880 --> 01:53:25.479
to offer Allison the opportunity to share
a little bit about what she is doing,

1214
01:53:25.960 --> 01:53:29.600
what she will be doing in the
upcoming months, and how people can

1215
01:53:29.720 --> 01:53:32.279
get in touch Allison. We've been
bombarded. Is that a strong word?

1216
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I don't know. We've been asked. We've been asked how people can get

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in touch, how they can get
in touch with you, how can they

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leverage your services? So share a
little bit about that before we go.

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Okay, So the best way to
get in touch with me is by email.

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Ali I will call at gmail dot
com dot com, A L I

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A w U ku at jmail dot
com. That's the best one. I'm

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always checking my email, so if
you drop me an email or get back

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in touch with you, I'm I'm
a psychotherapist. I'm an author. I

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write, I work with with various
organizations. I do therapy for individuals as

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well. I have I have liked, like you said, Jenny, I've

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published a couple of books. The
first one is Relationships Unique Boundaries of Effectiveness

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for Success and Fulfillment, and that's
about really our individual relationships, becoming self

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aware some of the kind of key
components that we need to build ourselves up

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to relate better with ourselves and then
to relate with other people in social context.

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So that's what that book is about. It's got some shots, narratives,

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illustrations, reflective points. It's quite
a simple, easy read and you

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can probably read read all of it
in a couple of days or one day,

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so it's quite an easy read.
And then the most recent book is

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Relating for Success, and it's about
achieving optimum organizational effectiveness through positive relationships.

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And this is really about how we
relate within the workplace. And it's got

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various models for relationships within the workplace
at various levels, within teams and between

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organizations, and some of the kind
of behaviors in terms of relating behaviors that

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people display in the workplace and how
you can best work with those behaviors.

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Again, it's got some illustrative stories. It's got points for reflections as well,

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pertinent questions you can ask yourself.
It's got some input from organizediational leaders

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as well, who I interviewed as
part of the as part of the process.

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So it's I think it's quite an
interesting read, both books on Amazon.

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I am passionate about relationships. All
of the things that we talked we've

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talked about are connected to relationships.
So we are relational beings. My work

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is about helping people build their relationship
with themselves and reach with each other with

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other people around them. So that's
that's who I am. That's what I'm

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about. But you know, I
and most of all, I'm a child

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of God. I firmly believe that
there is a God who in whom we

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leave, we move, and we
have our being, and that he's in

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control of affairs but that He's given
us free will and the power to reason,

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and you know, with these gifts
we need to we need to reach

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our full potential by his grace.
And that I am a child of God

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and I believe in his power,
the power of his love in my life,

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and I hope and pray that you
know, we all listening experience this,

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the power of God's love, because
it's the most beautiful thing in the

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world. Ay Man, I think
that's a very good note in which to

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end. Angela, do you want
to just close us out with a quick

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prayer? And yeah, I think
our time is just about spent. Thank

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you, Allison, Well, thank
you let us pray, Oh my God

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on, thank you for this opportunity
that we've had to come today to talk

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about a really important topic and I
really positive one to end our series on

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bringing down strongholds. We thank you, Dear Lord, for being an amazing

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clod. That some of us may
come to you with heavy hearts, burned

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by feelings of inadequacy and our own
self doubt. We know that You've created

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us in your own image, yet
we sometimes fail to see that and struct

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to see ourselves as such. So
we want to ask you now to help

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us overcome those negative thoughts and feelings
that hold us back and find the confidence

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and self worth that we so desperately
need need. Remind us of your unending

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love and grace, and help us
see ourselves as you see us, beautiful,

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valuable, and wordliving above thement.
Met Help us to let go of

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those lies and a negative self talk
that hold us back, and to embrace

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the truth of your word, which
tells us that we are fearfully and wonderfully

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made. We ask for your strength
to face those challenges that lie ahead and

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feel guidance in making decisions that honor
you and reflects our true worth. Help

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us to surround ourselves with positive influences
and to let go of any relationships or

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situations that undermine that and bring down
our self esteem. Mist of all,

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we want to ask for your peace
and comfort as we journey through life.

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It's not easy to hear God,
but remind us that we are never alone,

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that you are always with us.
You are our biggest cheerleader and can

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help us overcome our struggles. I
thank you for hearing and answering and nonything

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that you're going to do for us. This is my prayer. Amen.

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Amen, Amen, Allison, thank
you again, and if anyone needs those

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details, please to get in touch
with us here at the studio and I'll

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be happy to pass them on.
Allison all the very best with all that

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you're doing. May God just enlarge
your territory and we look forward to having

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you back already sort of booking you, yes, so to join you this

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month. Thank you so much,
thank you, thank you. Well,

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it's good night then from myself Senya, yes, and good night from Angela.

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Thank you for joining us today and
night. From there we go and

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good night, God bless you and
see you for a Saturday night praise.

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