Deborah, with her thirty years of being an entrepreneur and creating over seven companies,
knows exactly what it means to accept the mission. When you make that
decision, when you accept the mission to become a solopreneur, to take yourself
and your talents to market, then you embrace a life of not only unlimited
possibilities, but also the unknown. It's an elixir of fear and bravery that
only someone who's taken the leap really understands. On our show, deb digs
deep with her guests to highlight what you the listener wants to know, the
stories, the wise and the hows to navigate the journey to success. Get
ready to hear from some of the most incredible mission takers from Generation Z to
boomers. So sit up, perk up, and get ready to be blown
away. Now here is your host, Deborah Drummond. Well, aren't you
the best audience? And you know, it's a little sicky that I see
that, because I've got a full times first sister with me today, Kelly
from Edge magazine, and so we are both media. We love media,
we love platforms. We're going to talk about I know why I took the
mission but we're gonna find out. Well way this incredible woman did the same
thing. But you guys, you know that I call you the best audience
and then I always come up with a funny little name for you. And
if you haven't been with us before, this show gets fun. It gets
fun, It gets funky. We laugh. We tend to laugh at ourselves.
If you want to laugh at us, that's okay, we can't hear
you. Go for it, particularly if you're in the car. Laughing is
good medicine. Anyways, you guys are the most innovative. You are the
most innovative, and you love to share the word. You are the most
platformed audience today. That's who you are today. Thank you so much for
joining us. I'm super excited that Kelly's here. I get to talk about
one of my favorite things, and that is media and creating platforms. Both
me and Kelly understand and appreciate the power of other people's audiences and getting the
people that are healing, the people out in front of where they need to
be. And so we're kind of that, you know, that person that's
got your back. You know, We're like, hey, let's get you
out there, Let's get you out there, and she does it in multiple
mediums. Super excited. She's got podcasts, she does retreats, she's got
magazine, and we're going to dive a little deep into I think one of
the questions when I ask her is why going back to a paper magazine?
Ooh, did your millennial feathers just get ruffled? Did you did your boomer
you know, feathers just get excited? All right, So let's dive into
today's show. Thank you for being here, Kelly, Thank you so much
for coming to Mission accepted. Absolutely, thank you so much for having me.
I'm glad to be here for sure. Absolutely. So look, I
kind of I've been kind of giving things away and your intro there, so
let's talk about what it is that you do and why it is that you
do it, and how the heck this whole party started, because that's what
this show is about. People love to hear about the mission. They love
to learn from our teachings, our spiritual experiences. And you know, you've
you've hit into media, and I know from someone being in media, it's
interesting people like, oh, you're in media, what you know? What
is that and what is that about? So maybe tell us how you decided
to become a entrepreneur that you are. Oh my goodness, well, thank
you very much for this opportunity. So glad to be here. You know,
I fell into it, It's probably the best way to describe it.
And I do not have a background in all of the different areas that I
that I'm that I'm in and then I'm forging ahead in. But then yet
I do have experiences. So sold advertising out of school in college, worked
at Best Buy in promotions and events. Worked from my father, a successful
entrepreneur seventeen years, and we're a lot of beautiful things on how to run
a business and other things that we shouldn't be doing as any business right.
So first thing I did as hire a bookkeeper and a lawyer, two things
that my father never did. So beautiful learnings absolutely all around. And then
I worked for large pe firms where I set up million dollar trade shows and
we had a fifteen thousand dollar budget just to vacuum the carpet. And I've
also worked at trade shows where we were going into the women's room stealing at
garbage can because we didn't have one hundred dollars for the trade show booth.
Like I totally get it. And where I'm at is Edge Magazine. So
Edge Magazine dot Net is our website and it is a thirty one year old
print publication that went dark during COVID, and I was a VP of marketing
in the aseptic sampling dairy industry, and I was struggling to find my words.
Ab you know, I have no problem at all find words for every
three three, so I know professionally I'm struggling to find words. Then it
was not in alignment, and then the Edge Magazine was up for sale again
COVID. Everything kind of went dark. Media change during COVID. Let's just
say that how we consume it, how we enjoy it, and change during
during COVID, and we bought it. My husband and I looked at each
other. He's a graphic designer and a web designer, and I have all
these other little gifts and abilities, and it's really in our community, in
our space. So I am a mystic on every level. And it's fascinating
to me to learn about the unconventional mindsets that people tap into for their own
inner mind, body, spirit growth. And that's what the EDGE is about.
And in the middle of it, we have this beautiful, vibrant directory
of all of these thought leaders that we're putting together for connecting the teachers and
seekers together. So it's a it's a growing platform. And we went back
to print when everybody else was standing up of to print. I was just
guided and we had to have nice paper. I want paper, nice paper,
right, and great, you got a nice paper. No, no,
no, we have to have nice paper. I had a nice paper
like your paper girl's sister too. Okay, you like that? And it
just an experience. And when we were doing our research and talking to previous
subscribers and what did you like about the edge, I've never I thought the
previous owners were lying to me like just to try to make the sale,
and they're like, people read this cover to cover and I was like,
whoop whatever. But I kept hearing it, and I kept hearing it.
I even had people that say they would grab it and they would go to
the back and they would read it backwards. I was like, you guys
were crazy, but awesome, thank you. So we went back into print,
and then we took at edgetok Radio, which was something kind of like
an afterthought, and we gave it legs again and then we also have the
Being Curious Show with Kelly and Brian, and we're about to celebrate our one
hundred hundredth show and it's a radio show on AM radio, Like who knew
AM radio is still around? It is, and and we're on all the
podcast platforms and then events would retreats, so we're just all of these things
all media. It's it's it's media, and it's meeting people where they're at.
So in the magazine you'll see QR codes all over the place because we
really want to get that interaction because you know people are there flown nearby.
Yeah. Really that hybrid of how do you how do you honor all the
different ways people digest media and then enjoyable way. So let's unpack that a
little bit. Let's like, ooo, wow, let's take a deep breath
for you. We're gonna take a deep breath for you. Okay. So
look, there's elements to becoming an entrepreneur. And like you said, I
mean clearly there's been a path and you followed a path and you couldn't speak,
you know, the words that you wanted to speak. And then with
working with dairy and so it went to this and you went to that and
somehow the Edge magazine got presented to you. But us talk about some things
around being an entrepreneur. So when you decided to go into entrepreneurship, you
did it with your husband, and that has a whole different conversation at the
dinner table, right, So going we talk, people go into partnership.
They go in with you know, their best friend, or they go in
with their partner or what have you. So here you are tell us a
little bit about the process of that conversation, like we're going to do this
together. Did you work together beforehand or is this the first time that you
guys are working together. So, first off, we've been together since nineteen
ninety nine and that helps we we'll just like lay that out. We have
very very different people, very different people. I'm a hummingbird and he's your
so let's just like we'll put that there as well. He has a graphic
designer, web designer. He's been helping me for years, so I know
his quality of work, I know his process. I know he can get
into my brain where others can't. I found in other previous jobs, i'd
be working with a graphic design team and then I would just call my husband
up and I would like, hey, you know the project that I'm working
on, would you would you please just do a quick little layout so I
can show the team what I'm trying to say. So he has been helping
me graphically for years and process. Is there the magazine always being talked at
the dinner table? Yes? Are we going to take our first vacation this
summer? Yes? Do we try to have that work life balance? Yes?
Does it always work? No? So to go into business with your
husband, it's a huge it's a hugely the faith. It is a courageous
conversations have to happen. Again, our working style is extremely different, where
I'm like, ahh, he's like slow and steady, but he gets things.
I've never worked with a designer that hits more first draft than my husband
does. Right that that is just that's a gift, right Yeah, So
it's learning, It's that communication. I would love to do unpacking. It
almost like a retreat or an event, because working with your with your spouse
is it's a different challenge and you really have to be courageous and kind.
Words at our house weren't always kind. I mean we we've but in our
communication style of a couple, if we have to have courageous conversations, we
do it as clean and kind as we possibly can. But there's been words,
there's been emotions. It happens. It happens. I think it's easy,
and I don't know why I kind of pulled that. Obviously, someone
needs to hear again how that works. I love that courageous conversations. Courageous
conversations in business sometimes that's just a great way to put it. Just having
courageous conversations, whether it's partners, whether it's suppliers, whether it's new people
that you're negotiating with, right, And I think that that whole process.
There's a lot of there's a lot of new wise entrepreneurs, you know,
men and women that have been in businesses, worked for companies. They don't
come to the table without experience. And I think it's that adjustment and a
lot of people find themselves in a new like a new fishing pond. I
don't know I'm using that term, but new fishing pond, and they have
to have conversations from a different perspective. Now I own the company, I'm
talking to this supplier that three cents on that item makes a difference. You
know that free shipping makes a difference, that do date for the print makes
a difference, right, so different perfect example, we just had in the
last edition that we just sent to the printer, I landed a two full
page ad at the last minute. We hadn't reshuffle the whole magazine. And
of course my husband's like deadline was last week. Deadline was last week.
Deadline was last week, and I was like two page ad. So we
gave together and he was like deadline last week and I was like two page
ad, and so he just came and he was really frustrated with me,
and I basically outsourced it so he didn't have to worry about it as he
was doing final magazine productions. But it was great because we found another graphic
designer that we love now and they're a part of our team. And I
was like, okay, great and it just showed up to them. So
it's it is. It's that deadline. But then like, hey, I
just took revenue and were able to do this, this and this because I
brought that in for this, And it's that dance between sales and production and
oh gosh, just and it's just it's all those little logistics where you have
to have that push in that poll. But it really gets down to if
you are going to partner with somebody as an entrepreneur, whether it's a husband,
whether it's a best friend, whether it's a parent, whether it's a
stranger down the street, that communication is key. We don't have Oh,
we actually do have a working agreement, like actually that our lawyer drafted up
for us. Yeah, but I used to be like, oh, why
would you ever have contracts and why would you ever have this? I totally
see the importance of doing what you say and say what you do and have
it in writing, right. Very cool, very cool. I don't know
why someone need to hear that, but they did. Look, let's talk
about this print magazine. Because you know, you're in media. I'm in
media. It's a QR code, it's the next thing. You know.
We're both very on top of innovative marketing. And it's interesting. I'm you
know, innovative marketing can be a variety, but there is something very beautiful
about the touch of a book. We all know that people don't throw books
away. They give books away. So tell me about you know what it
is about going to print, like it's not. It's not where, it's
not where people are necessarily going. So tell me about that. So intuition
wouldn't leave me alone, and it said, you have to go back to
print, and you have to go you have to improve the paper. So
the Edge before did not have this really beautiful, lovely cover stock. And
as we know in media, just by adding that doubled the expense of the
whole. And I want to thank Amazon for all the boxes because that's where
a lot of our paper is going. Paper over the last two years has
been so so volatile that printers sometimes will only honor a quote for a week,
like right, it's that it's that crazy with paper driven to go back
to print something that I do and oh my gosh, my book shlves looks
horrible. We review books for the magazine. I only review books that I
can get in hard copy, Like that's it. I just I love the
ceremony of the printed piece. That is probably the best way to describe it
for me. And it was really interesting. So I need readers now,
like, yeah, I'm one of those people. Yes, I have the
readers down. Welcome to the team, Thank you, and like, yeah,
you can find cute little ones like perfect. It's all good. But
I noticed in one of the issues my husband does not need readers yet,
and I read I was reading one of the issues and I was like,
this fonts too small. You can't you can't go blow any point fonts.
This isn't fair to the rest of us, Like right, yeah, it's
It's just so interesting how when we were designing this and is saying we're gonna
go back into print, how many people just advise us against it. But
I'm in the Twin Cities, and over the last six months, I want
to say, there is six new print publications that have popped up, so
I think people are going back to it. Also, our demographics we skew.
WE skew more women, we skew educated, we skew on the older
side. Defind what older means. Oh my god. One of my clients
says he's forty five and got called a boomer the other day, and I
was just like become like looking a little I'm like that, that's amazing.
It's like rob On, Well, that's because entrepreneurs are popping out at fourteen,
fifteen, sixteen, seventeen years old. Right, I know, I
know, and they're and they're making a million dollars in there on YouTube,
and we just this is this is what and screen fatigue. And at the
end of the day, if I'm going to go enjoy something, I love
to read in the bathtub, I love I love to read in little areas,
and I'm on the computer all day long, I'm just done. I
have a kindle, I have an iPad. I don't like to use them.
I'm also a girl that I love handwritten notes, so I'm into handwritten
writing everything I have. I picked my color a pen, I have my
smelly markers that I have to use. Like I'm still really right there.
So I want that feeling and that touch in that connection. Yeah, and
I think you're right on, because Kelly, what I've said, and I've
said it for ten years now, is that we will actually at some point
start to go back just in a new, refreshed way. Here's something interesting.
So major corporations right now are teaching I'll just say that they're newer employees,
right the new generation twenty and seriously teen twenty and up to thirty year
old, and they're having classes, particularly their customer service they're teaching body language.
They don't understand body language when someone's like that means hurry up, you
know what I mean? Or like that means they're not interested, But they're
not reading body language, and it's making for poor customer service experiences, and
people are complaining about their customer service because they can't read what people Because it's
been very digital, it's been very tech, it's been very you know,
you got to think, you know, to no fault of anyone, right,
I mean a lot of times people are you know, they always say
they make up and break up by text. I was like, I mean,
first time my daughter and her boyfriend broke up by tech, I was
like, what he didn't call? Like you didn't call it, Like he
didn't have a phone call. So those kind of things. So they're teaching
body language, they're teaching tactile, they're teaching like what you talk about the
soul of the paper, like I always say words on paper, right,
It's just it's so powerful. But I think that you're you got six publications.
I think we're going to go back and there's going to be a great
merge because there'll be a yearning. We know that we are wired for connection,
wired for connection. We know that we're wired for connection. That's how
the being of the human is. And so that's going to take me to
my question to you around retreats. But I think it's that I think it's
that tactile experience. I'm with you, and I think it's hot, and
I think it's great that you followed your intuition. I know that we're also
we both make decisions for our businesses based on our gut, sometimes over you
know, numbers on paper. It's also really interesting when people submit an article
and they're like, I'm going to be in print, right, and when
you say no, we're gonna put you online because of because of length,
because of flow, because of whatever there's it's almost like this little like wind
that gets out of their sales that they're not in print. Oh well,
I'll just I'll just hold on to the next print edition. No, you're
not going in print because of X, Y and Z. People extremely passionate
about being And then what we do is anybody that's an advertiser, we do
this little like Scene and Edge magazine. I don't have one, but it's
we mounted on phone core and then I sign each one and then I handmail
it. I mean, so I really really try to do that that that
lovely, that energetic flow, that that that with it, and it is
really important to me. The first so we're in the year two. I
made a commitment to every subscription, every drop spot that we outside of the
Twin Cities. I hand touched every magazine and I think that person for subscribing,
and I write a personal note on everyone that goes out. Yes,
it takes way too long to do now that we have three hundred and fifty
subscribers, but it just it's really really important to me. And then I
mail them and I bless them and yeah, I know that sounds crazy,
but no, no, no, no, no, I same thing.
I'm you know, I have malad beads. When Mala comes in my kitchen
is like this, because you know, my guys from India comes like this,
and I hand wash and mantra over and I lie them on my belt.
Me. I'm sure my neighbors think that I'm so I'm lieing them on
my belt me letting them sun dry, and then I'm doing a blessing on
them, right, It's just what it is. Aligned? Yeah, yeah,
totally aligned. Okay, So look it. I talk a lot about
how to do things with a higher yield. Right, So we're gonna we
have people coming in, dialing in listening to our story, like, how
can I make my business better? How can I have it flow more?
How can I what is one of your top performance techniques? What I mean
about top performance? Like, what is it you do that yields you results?
Maybe in a shorter time, I'm in a more powerful momentum? Is
it? Like you know? For me, one of my things is layering.
Rarely do I go to the grocery store when I don't have a meeting
book, you know, so I tap performance my time because who cares when
I'm grocery shopping? Do you know what I mean? So? What are
what are some suggestions You've had a long, lengthy career of being in business.
What are some things you can suggest? You know what? The first
thing is, love what you do, like right, and just be authentic
about it if you don't. When I was in the dairy industry, oh
my gosh, the first farm I went to because I had to go on,
I watched baby cow that just was born, and I'm like and like
the farmer's there and the salesperson's there, and I like seriously left the conversation
and just walk over the baby cow that was just bored and I'm walking again.
The course sales reps just like, yeah, that's Kelly. She likes
to do saless with baby cow. And the farmer's like, she's not from
a farm, is she? And he was like, no, that's that's
Kelly. And I just went there and I just I didn't. I was
I was feeling disconnected. So I was paid very very well and I think
that company very very much for that gift and that opportunity, but I was
not a match. So don't just do things because it's a paycheck, Like
I really, really really, you gotta love it. You've got to you've
got to be really really engaged. And I know that's not exactly the question
that you ask, but really be passionate about what you're doing, because being
an entrepreneur is not easy. You see all these these these videos on social
media and they're like, work eight hours a week and and take the time,
take eight to ten weeks off a year and do this and do that.
Good them who can do that? But right now, when we're bootstrapping
and we're doing what we're doing. We're not there yet, but we're going
to be there. I absolutely I'm starting to time block. That's one thing
that I'm absolutely learning because I am that squirrel that's has two hundred emails a
day and doing this, this, this, this and this that's that's just
churning. So timing black and getting organized is definitely key. It. Interviewed
a Fung Shuai spent Master yesterday for our radio show, and I found myself
wanting to organize and get really clean lately, just like with my surroundings that
doesn't look like it, but really making sure that I have that organization.
And with like my desk last night, I totally cleaned it up and I
had it look perfect before I met to bed, and she's like, I
promise you you'll start your day off better. And I came down today and
I was like, I'm excited for my day. She was right, you
know, just little things like that, and I'm always a work in progress.
But really being passionate about what you do and collaboration, collaborate with,
collaborate with people that are smarter than you and that have done things before that
you have done it. Like, oh my goodness, it is so key,
there's no and check your ego at the door, like that's that's another
thing. And just ask for help. That's the other thing. You ask
for help, O, big one. Let's just let go ask for help,
ask for help. Tough, tough, Right, we'll talk of the
entrepreneur because we have the face, right, we have that face. We've
got it all together, you're showing up and networking evens, you've got it
all together and whatever that looks like, whatever all together looks like for you,
right, assuming everyone's more successful, assuming everyone's got everyone's doing the you
know, two point five and six week holiday and all whatever it is that
we got going on in our head because we've read something and believed something that
may not be actual. So asking for help. Let's talk to that,
because I want to get to that. And I know we're kind of getting
a little bit to wrap up time, but we talked about collaboration over competition,
and we are also asking for help. I think when we're in a
state of collaboration, it's easier to leave your ego at the door, like
you said, thank you for that, and be vulnerable in business. Tough,
tough, tough, tough, tough, tough, tough. Right,
don't you find as an independent business person who's supposed to like, I don't
know what we're supposed to do, but apparently there's a whole bunch of supposed
to. So ask for help. Some examples of where you've needed to ask
for help. Oh my gosh, yeah yeah, right, like you think
you know it. Hold on, we're having like we're having sirens going off.
It's it's the it's we can't hear anything. Okay, good, good,
perfect, Yeah, it probably is sirens. This is this is a
siren moment, asking for help. Asking for help is a syreen moment.
Bam, right everything that's so crazy. I was just trying to categorize it
where to ask for help? I know where I'm good and I'm brilliant in
a lot of different things, but even those I love, I love someone
else's perspective and it might just be adding a layer to it. It might
be just to polish something. There's so many different ways that you can ask
for help. Also, having people in your in your and your in your
your in your tribe, in your in your team around you that you can
look at it and go should I do this and let that person go nope,
rather than you're amazing and this is fantastic and you should go for it.
But to be able to have people again, the courageous conversations that can
go around and go, that's not where you need to be focusing your time
and affter it right now. I'm not good at it. Well, and
know what you're good at. I'm a horrible bookkeeper. I am horrible.
You would think that someone that's motivated by money like I am, that I
would be like I would be invoicing and I would be like yeah, yeah,
yeah, oh no, that is not my jam in any way,
shape or form. So I just put a call out who knows a trusted
bookkeeper, a lawyer or legal to have someone like just help me dop my
as and cross my teas so important, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's it's little things like that, And like even if you get to
a point where you're like, oh, I'm curious and then putting a call
out, whether it's on LinkedIn, whether it's your professional network, but for
it's your friends and family, because you know, if you lean in,
people are going to also lean back to you. And I am so incredibly
generous when it comes to anybody asking for help for me, I am,
I show up. I don't know why I can't ask for help myself,
which I can now I'm getting better. But before I would be like,
what do you need? How do you need it? Yeah, my black
book, take it, just just take it. Whatever I can do for
you. It's a recovery process. I think it's a recovery process. I
don't know if everyone goes through it, or if it's a culture, if
it's a demographic, or if it's an age, or if it's a gender,
or if it's all entrepreneurs. I think we are comfortable asking for help
for functional things, but asking for help about things that we don't know,
or admitting that things aren't as good as we are wanting them to be.
Those kind of things. It's like, hey, I see that you're really
successful, or you just had that award. Can you maybe tell me how
you got there? Or those kind of things. I believe that it's very
much where it's easier to give than it is to receive, for sure.
So there you go. I was going to ask, and I see that
we are bleeping a little bit on and off. So you might be having
some technology. Okay, there she is. Awesome. Let's tap a little
bit before we wrap up. Because we both talked earlier Apprecia about the power
of retreats. We love retreats. You've got to retreat coming up, we're
planning a different retreat. I know probably four or five people that got retreats
going on right now. It is retreat season. People are coming back.
They want to get together, they want to find peace in the millions right
It's like, Okay, it's one thing to go out there and make your
six figure five, you know, whatever it is that you're goaling for,
but it doesn't come without a bit of disarray to the soul. And those
of us that are out there doing it need retreats as much as we're gifting
retreats. So tell me about retreats for you guys, like kind of what
do you find? What's what's going on in your world? So we're actually
planning one for the eleven eleven we're calling a Breakthrough retreat and at eleven eleven
in Sidona, Arizona, at eleven eleven at eleven eleven in the morning,
we're gonna be doing sacred ceremony and just really really opening things up and then
and just dialing in with people. It's a collaboration between Blisstopia Resorts Retreats excuse
me, and Mary news from of zenf Hi. So what we're doing is
we're bringing in this triad of people. So I bring in the Mystic Psychic
Media ship along with Mary's shaman. She's actually in Peru right now, just
coming back from from her own retreat. And then we have this sacred,
beautiful space in blas Topia that is a it's a private residence that is that
they hold retreats for up to twenty and we're just going to create this mind,
body, spirit and I know that sounds really gay transformative space for people
to just come in and ask for help, have courageous conversations, but get
outside and hike and go into go into Sedona and really just have amazing interactions
and then integration and then interactions and interactions and then really someone on one time.
We're gonna have like a choose your own adventure. Do you want to
get yoga class? The Mark the owner does self defense classes. So we're
really in this space creating jammed pack as you want to be or if you
want to stay in your bed and just journal the whole time. You can
do that too, So really trying to create this I look at it,
is that, what's a retreat that I would want to attend? Because I
get bored really really fast, and you can give me so much lip service,
but to really go in with amazing people. I would love to do
a retreat with you. I think, Oh my gosh, you and I
can, yeah, yeah, yeah, it would be so it would be
so incredible, were so incredible. We'll have to tag team it. We
can do well. I mean, we're a beautiful, thank over rich Columbia
where, oh my gosh, we could go to Whistler, we could go
to the peak of the mountain where they have bands sometimes and you can,
and then we'll head down to your way. Right, it's just so rounding,
and the earth there is just so rich. Right, it's just so
rich where you are. Or we can just you know what, a friend
of mine's building an incredible home and tuloom fifteen minutes away, five bedrooms,
seven bathrooms. The pool is bigger than my house. Nice, but yeah,
we can go there. Priorities, oh yeah, I'll and I want
to do experiences in different places, and that's sacred energy. So it calls
to me. I was buried there. I've been going there since I was
a little girl. The top of holi Akola is the heart chakra of the
world. So there's there's, there's it's how do you describe sunrise at the
top of holi Akila when things are coming in? And I want to help
people experience those kind of as well. I mean, oh my gosh,
so much we can do, say stay tuned, people's stay tuned. So
look, there's obviously more to be had and more to be said. Let's
encapsulate this for people. Right, So obviously we're both vibrating and built a
business based on serving others, yet building a business for ourselves sustainability resources.
I think we both are very clear that you can't serve if you're not sustained,
right, having a top performance business collaboration over you know what is it
is competition even a word anymore? I think it's left to the world as
sports, right. I think it's okay. I mean, I think it's
okay to want to be your best and do your best and whatever it is
that you do. And I think we see that in business it happens through
a lot of collaboration. As we wrap up, my dear, before you
tell us, you know where people can reach you. And I have a
very special question for you. Is there anything that you want to leave with
our audience that's venturing into this world or is going to take the mission or
has taken the mission? Is there anything that you want to share before you
tell us where we can go find all of this school stuff and how we
can get our hands on that magazine. You know what's interesting is I just
keep saying, is if you want to jump off the cliff, you've done
it and I've done it, do it. But pack your bag a half
a time, know what you're doing, Surround yourself with people that have been
there, done that, Ask the right questions and they will come pack your
bag and know what you're doing as much as you possibly can. Prepare,
Prepare, prepare. What is it like? I'm not going to do the
analogy, but it's like, what is it? It's like aim aim am
am aim fire. Yeah, yeah, do the homework right, But if
you want a jump job and and you know what, even if you fall
and it doesn't, it doesn't have the outcome that you wanted get back again
and try it again. I mean, like, seriously, if you have
this, this visceral feeling that you need to do, explore it. Don't
just don't just be a highly paid garbage band. They just walked by it
because that's what you want to do. Unless you really, really really want
to do it and you find that satisfaction and helping people great. But if
you're being called jump bad, but do your homework. Jump in into your
homework. I love that, Okay. In your world of entrepreneurship, what
was one of the coolest surprises. Didn't see that coming? Oh my god,
that was a magical moment. Like I just came back from Napa Valley
and went to go check out of Vineyard and it just so happened. David
Herman was there, This is coming in ten minutes and I had a magical
moment. What was a magical moment for you that wasn't in the business plan
that you were like, piss has turned out to be one of the coolest
surprises or coolest experiences. It could be meeting somebody, It could have been
a result. We just had an event two weekends ago called Art on the
Edge, a total and Metaphysical Art festival Fusion in this beautiful little space in
Linden Hills in Minneapolis. And people actually came because they saw us interviewed,
they saw what we were doing, they felt our passion on the airwaves,
people heard about it on the radio show. And I sit there and I'm
like, oh wow, people are actually listening. I love when people email
us and say I want to subscribe to your magazine because it's either not in
the drop spot that it used to be or I moved and I just I
want my edge. The people love what we're doing. I honestly did not
like questioning myself. There's like, right, yeah, I'm just shocked that
people resonate so much with what we're doing, and it's so exciting. Yeah.
So one of the surprises is you're looking at your business as a business
and you're looking for the results and you want to see it. It's a
passion inside you. And then the surprising piece was just confirmation of the affirmative
work that you're doing. Cool last question. Look, you're on your way
to a desert island. Done done? Who just you and your suitcase and
you have room for one album and only one, which one you take in
Girl Rainbow Children by Prince. All right, she said that fast, but
that's very cool, Okay, gorgeous. We know that we've got things in
the show notes for people to go find you, but please again, just
mention your website where people can go or wherever you want to send us beautiful
Edge Magazine dot net and our radio show is called the Being Curious Show.
It's on all podcast platforms, and my personal email address just in case anyone
wants to reach out is Kelly at Edge magazine dot net. Awesome, Okay,
look you guys, I there was a million little gemstones in there in
drops, and I inspire you to either reach out and be on the receiving
end or participate in this incredible world of media and getting onto platforms like Kellies
so that you are ending up in other people's audiences and having the experiences she
just did at her event a couple of weeks ago. If you want to
be sitting where Kelly is, you know what to do. This is not
difficult. It's debat dev Duman dot com. And you also know we're doing
right. It's like, oh, look at that right, and look at
we got this incredible two hundred and sixty two women entrepreneurs, entrepreneurs, creatives
and media book launching International Women's Day. Write it down in your book.
I don't care if you are not an international woman. You know international women,
you support it. It will be the largest. It is the largest
speakership and authorship that's ever been done. It was a channeled experience. No
one sat down and said, how can we make it this the largest?
It just is on the eighth day, So you know, on the eighth
day of every single month of twenty twenty three up until International Women's Day,
we are going to be having a free worldwide party where you can come be
inspired by the coolest women, heart centered, you know, head on,
going for it, gumption based women. So come and join us. You've
got no excuse, and everyone that attends, everyone that attends gets twenty five
hundred dollars in a swag bay and you didn't even pay to get there.
But okay, come on, seriously, what's the problem. Okay, you
know what to do. Reach out if you need to reach out, and
until we see you next week again, thank you for listening, and be
well and stay ruby right for now,