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I mean, I'm Austin. We
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up die kind of special guest we'll
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up on today's show. Yes,
we'll talk about the Marcus Morris social media

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post talking about Clippers fans. We'll
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on the up in Smoke or All
the Smoke podcast. Steven Jackson, who

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I do own a jersey of the
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in the day and I thought it
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It's not cool, guys, it's
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gray area. Either way. We
got Joey Lynn, who is a hit

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with Clipper Nation. We all love
him. He has at Joey Lynn two

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ends with an underscore at the end
on Twitter. He writes for SI Now.

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He also works for the Sporting Tribune. He has the Clips Convo podcast,

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and he is one of the most
articulate, well spoken members of the

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media, not just with the Clippers, just universally accepted that way throughout the

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media in the sporting universe. Joey, thanks for joining us here on cn

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D. How are you I'm doing
great. I'm doing even better after that

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intro, I appreciate the love.
I should also say as a member of

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the Eagles, the Biola Eagles,
that is Biola University. I went there

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as well. So what division are
they playing? Hey, they're D two.

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Now. You know what's funny,
that's actually kind of how I got

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my start in all of this.
They were an AIA. No, they

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were you might even an AI.
I don't know when I first got into

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Biola. They weren't nt double A
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how I kind of got my start. Was once they got bumped up to

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D two, their broadcasts expanded and
they actually had like a live stream and

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all that, and that's how I
got play by play rep. So I

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worked out nice for me. So
yeah, put some respect on the Eagles

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a little D two accent now,
yeah, hey man, that's yeah,

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that's almost D one. That's good, Joey. Let's put some respect in

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your reporting skills. You had the
post or the tweet that rock Clipper Nation

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a little bit. I guess it
wasn't that unexpected, but it confirmed what

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some people were hoping it would,
which is that James hardened part of the

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interests of him coming to the Clippers
is because he wants to reunite with Russell

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Westbrook. Just talk about their relationship
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Dis Yeah, so listen, I
don't never pretend to know more than

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I do. I'm obviously only a
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you guys know I've been grinding towards
this for several seasons. But in

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terms of doing this actually as a
job, I've only been in the business

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for one full season now. So
I don't pretend I guess that to know

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more than I do when it comes
to scoops and things like that. That

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report wasn't that massive. It wasn't
anything that I don't think can be really

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deduced from people who are just kind
of paying attention. But I did want

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to put it out because I had
seen a lot of people kind of mentioned

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that, like way to Russe and
James cool, Like, I know,

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their time in Houston was a little
bit weird. There were some reports during

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their time in Houston that Russ I
wasn't completely happy with the way that James

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goes about his business. Russ actually
came out at the time that that report

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was published and kind of shut it
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said, it wasn't that big of
a breaking news piece for me to say

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that, But I didn't want to
put it out because I think there's some

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people who may have missed some of
those things, which is why I said

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it. And I've been talking to
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the summer. I've been going to
a lot of different things, and I'm

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probably hearing a lot of the same
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as it pertains to that particular report, I can say with with you know,

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pretty strong confidence that those two guys
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have a positive relationship, and I
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before I put it out, before
even Russ actually resigned that part of the

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reason why James had the clippers on
his radar was because he wanted to play

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with Russ again. So it was
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the puzzle. It didn't change a
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I felt was worth But now,
because like I said, some people didn't

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really know or we're one hundred percent
sure that though two guys want good terms.

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So there's obviously no issue going back
to the Rockets days. But in

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speaking to James Harden and his interest
seems like he's adamant about coming to the

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Clippers. Is there anything else you'd
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What you can say is Adam didn't
clear this with us, Joy, He's

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just going around. Listen, this
is what me and Adam do. Like

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even when I go on the Cliffs
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you know, any of the questions
beforehand. We just go man, So

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this is this is nothing new for
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question in terms of things that you
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can tell you on that front.
But I think it's pretty obvious to those

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who've been paying attention on what's going
on here right The Philadelphia seventy six ers

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want to continue to keep their championship
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do with a player like dwell Ebid. So they're not interested in Marcus Morris,

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Robert Cummington, Nicholas Patum. You
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right, you know, so people
who kind of need to understand that,

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like just because these are the expiring
contract that the Clippers can be offering

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and they make the money work.
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reportedly does you know kind of exist
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Philadelphia is not just going to take
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because they aren't in a situation to
do that. They got to keep and

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beat Happy, They have to keep
their championship when to open. So this

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is not a rebuilding team that could
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you know what, we'll just look
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that's why you're kind of seeing a
lack of movement on that front in

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terms of Harden. So that's not
again not all that hard to figure out,

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but that's really what's happening right now. And for the Clippers on their

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side, they recognize that, hey, look, there isn't a strong market

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for James Harden right now, primarily
because he can become a free agent at

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the end of next season. You
don't want to give up a whole lot

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for a guy who one doesn't want
to be there and two can actually leave

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at the end of next season.
It's not like Damian Lillard or Kadie from

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a year ago, where you know, maybe he doesn't want to be there,

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but he's under contract for four years, so you know you can actually

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keep him around. There's a different
situation. So the Clippers recognize that there's

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a lack of interest around the league, So they're not just going to give

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Philadelphia everything that they want right now, even if it does you know in

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years pass. Comparing it to star
packages that are usually sent out doesn't really

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line up, even if you do
include a guy like Man or some of

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these other pieces. But the Clippers
will want to hold on too. So

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that's where we find ourselves right now. Philadelphia wants what they want, the

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Clippers don't want to give that up, and the Clippers feel that as we

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get closer and closer to training camp, Philadelphia is going to have to make

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a decision. Do we want to
accept what's on the table right now or

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do we want to bring it potentially
disgruntled and unhappy James Harden in a training

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camp and then cause potentially problems they're
starting the season. So that's where we're

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at right now. Again, yes
that's from what I've heard, but it's

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also not all that hard to figure
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are right now. But yeah,
that's my understanding of what's happened. Do

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you think it might turn into a
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the Clippers about like how to guess
a training camp, because I'm obviously I

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think most of us are like,
it would be nice if the Clippers should

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get this done early so everyone can
kind of gel and whatnot. So I'm

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wondering if that might come into play, and it's kind of I mean,

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it just feels like such a sea
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mentioned that on one of my last
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where the Clippers obviously recognize that they're
not bidding against very much right now,

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time at the same time, right
at the same time. The longer you

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let this go on, I think
there's a few risks that you run,

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and one of them is what you
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or I guess, you know,
in theory, it would give Philly more

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time to maybe mend things with him
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back. I don't think that's all
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we're seeing reported right now he doesn't
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something to consider. And then also
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to maybe think, hey, James
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like a team like the Knicks or
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kind of like floated around as potential
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those as major risk. But the
point that you just brought up was actually

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what I said on my last podcat
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the Clippers right now. The longer
they let this go on, you want

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to try to get him in as
early as possible because listen, we have

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seen this team have to take a
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Like, they've had some pretty significant
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and it hasn't necessarily been a thing
that they figure out right away, especially

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when you consider the fact that like
guys are in and out of the lineup,

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you know, all of a sudden, now we're in you know,

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let's say February, and we're you
know, putting out those tweets like oh

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the Clippers are two and oh this
year when fully healthy, it's like you

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know what I mean, Like you
want to try to get your full complete

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roster together as early as possible to
give them an opportunity to work things out.

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So I do think that that's one
of the factors that play here.

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Is one Philadelphia doesn't want to run
the risk of bringing a disrunted James Harden

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into camp. But at the same
time, the Clippers don't want to run

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the risk of having to enter camp
with potentially but guys that are going to

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have to be sent out and also
without guy who projects to be, you

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know, a star and a starter
level player on your team. So yeah,

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that's definitely a factor I play in
all this. Do you think if

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Terrence Man was included today the deal
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Yeah, I definitely do. I
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because again you look around the league, and this again partially from what

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also just partially what's already out there
as well. There isn't a whole lot

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on the table being offered to the
seventy sixers right now for James Harden.

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They're just not. So you look
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again he's I don't like calling him
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a lot of people call him that, but it's not really what Philadelphia needs.

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They need a player who can help
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need a young player, they need
a good player, and Terrence Man is

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a good player. See the type
of player that would normally be included as

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like the key to a star level
package. Probably not, but in the

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context that we're working within right now, Yeah, I believe that that's probably

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the best player that Philly could potentially
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Clippers were to offer them, I
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have a deal right now. But
I think the fact that the Clippers haven't

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offered them speaks to the confidence that
they have in the lack of bidding war

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that exists right now. Let's play
the hypothetical scenario forward a little bit.

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Should James Harden become a Clipper,
how much do you like the fit?

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Where do you think there could be
some drawbacks or some negatives? Yeah?

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So I went back and forth on
this on my last podcast episode, and

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what I ultimately landed on was,
yes, I do think that this is

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a move that they should make.
And the reason why I landed on.

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That is because you look at where
we are in the two one three timeline

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right now, it's at the point
where I think you're too far past the

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point of, well, let's be
conservative now right which just where Kawaii and

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PG are contractually where your role players
are, just in terms of their overall

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productivity. So I think you're past
the point of thinking, what, you

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know what, let's hold on,
let's not make a splash like this.

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I think you're too late in the
game to do that. They have to

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make a play to be able to
elevate their chances of winning a championship,

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but I think they need to do
it this summer. Could the Clippers as

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currently constructed compete Maybe I kind of
lean towards no, just because of the

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health issues that we've seen. I
just don't think if this were you know,

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two K and you could turn injuries
off and you look at the roster

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that they have, I think you
could say, yes, maybe this team

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has a shot. But I mean, how realistically, you know, can

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can we say that? Right?
We've seen this now five years in a

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row essentially where you know these guys
are gonna miss time, and not only

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does that become an issue if they're
unavailable in the playoffs, but even before

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then, like your seating is is
something that you have to consider, Like

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all of this is something that needs
to be considered. So because of that,

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I do think just in a vacuum, a player like Harden is going

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to be the type of piece that
can take you from maybe a team that's

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like really trying to bank on some
luck in order to get into the championship

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mix to like, you know,
if things go right, you should be

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in the mixed type situation. So
that's kind of where I land on that

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in a broad sense. You spoke
a little bit about his relationship with Russ

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and it's good off the court.
On the court, how do you see

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those two working? Would they both
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game one if that was the roster. If I had to guess, I

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would say yes. But I think
it's a hard thing to say definitively.

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I think that's also part of the
reason why you would want to get him

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in for training camp, right,
because you want to look at these types

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of things. I mean, last
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knowing who their starting point guard was
going to be and they allowed Camp to

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kind of make that decision for them. So it's hard to say that definitively

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right now. But I do want
to bring up one point that I've seen

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kind of get float around when you
talk about the potential starting lineup of Russ

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and together, is that it slides
Kawhi and PG up from the PG from

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the two to the three, and
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And there are some people who have
concerns about that. I have less

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concerns about that because I think if
you look at the NBA and where it

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is right now, yes, there
are some physical fours around the league,

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but it's a lot different from how
it used to be, even when we

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were all younger and starting to watch
basketball, and you have Blake playing the

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four and DJ playing the five,
and like Zach Randolph playing the four and

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Mark Gasol playing the five, you
know, buying them and Gassoul, Like,

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if you look around the league,
even just a decade ago, and

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you see a lot of teams playing
two traditional bigs, it's very rare to

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see that now. Like, yes, there are guys like Aaron Gordon who's

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more physical as a four, Zion
Ad if they play him there, Jaren

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Jackson if they play him there,
and like, those are some things that

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you would maybe have to switch your
match up for, But just on a

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league wide sense, I actually you
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better for Kawhi and PG to not
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guards and some of these more shifty
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it would be to keep them where
they're at right now. So I don't

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think that's as big of a concern
when you're just talking about potentially having to

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slide those guys up a spot to
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I do understand where people are coming
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as big of an issue where you
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this lineup because Gaway can't play the
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One of the reasons I think it
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Harden is because while he may start
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back court with him and Russell Westbrook, and they've played together before, and

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Russ had two of the best months
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out but I think it gives you
a better opportunity to bring Russ off the

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bench. I know you're a big
fan of Russell Westbrook. You put up

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some audio recently from podcast P and
Terrence Man talking about what a great mentor

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he is, but he obviously can
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as well. Just how do you
think that fit would be. Would he

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be better suited just coming off the
bench and running that Secon unit with Harden

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being the starting point guard. So
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you to do as well is that
if Russ felt more comfortable in the starting

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lineup, or if Harden felt more
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you wanted to start them all together, you still have the opportunity to bring

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one out at the sixth minute mark
and then bring them back in with the

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second unit. So I don't think
it's as big of a deal who starts

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with which group as opposed to who
gets the majority of the run with which

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group. And I think when you're
you're looking at what the Clippers potential roster

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construction could be, you can't make
the argument that Russ's skill set would be

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better off next to some of the
guys that are going to be in the

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second unit. Again, we don't
know one hundred percent who that's going to

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be at this point. It could
change a lot between now and the start

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of the regular season. But his
downhill ability playing with a big like Mason

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who can finish, you know,
playing with maybe a guy like Normangan,

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we don't really know what's going on
with that situation, but a guy who's

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a great guy, shoo guy in
Norm you would want to try to maximize

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that a little bit. But if
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think you could do that and just
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And the addition of Harden, I
think allows you to do that even more

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so because you're keeping a primary,
high level ball handler on the floor at

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all times with Kawhi ANDPG. That
way, you can keep one or both

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of them on the court with Kawhi
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that that would be a positive thing. Yeah, it's funny because I feel

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like people, you know, people
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really good with Russ on the floor
with Kawhi ANDPG. The offensive rating is

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a little low compared to what I
think, you know, a championship type

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team like we were just talking about, kind of is how does Harden fit

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into that? And kind of just
a totally separate thing. I think if

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we can keep Terence and get Russ
on the bench somehow with Harden, that

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would be a really fun pairing,
just kind of with kJ Martin and stuff

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like that. But where do you
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Russ and Kawhi and PG. Is
it just more time or what you know?

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Because I mean more time is kind
of always the answer with the Clippers

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stuff. But other than time,
what are you think it is? It's

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just why I want a minute trading
camp, right, That's what it's hard

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now, Absolutely why I looked at
those notes as well, because when I

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was writing my piece about why I
thought the Clipper should bring Russ back,

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I was looking at a lot of
those numbers and obviously, like you said,

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the defense looked good, the offensive
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too one of the things that you
have to consider, and Man brought this

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up on a podcast episode, was
that the Clippers first five games, that

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five game losing streak when everybody was
freaking out when they first added Russ.

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I think four of those games came
without Zeah and it bumped Mason into the

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starting lineup, which was just not
a good hit. And it also just

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bum Some people had to take it
back some things they said about Mason Fumby's

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ability on this team when we saw
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This is a complete side point.
I'm not going to go too far

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off on a tangent, but I
swear like any time a center not named

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Zoo does something positive on this team, there's some people on Clippers Twitter or

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like, get Zoo out of here. This guy's better, like we've seen

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it with almost every single big Clippers
have had. That's a completely separate point,

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but I know what you're saying.
So during that five game stretch,

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I think you can't take a whole
lot away from the overall sample size that

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we saw just you know, per
one hundred posessions. Wise, when you're

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looking at Russ's entire tenure with the
Clippers, because there just wasn't and it

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plays into your your answer of more
time. There just wasn't enough time with

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him next to the best version of
the Clippers. And you gotta remember too,

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like you know, there was still
the Marcus Morris situation was still going

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out of that time, like he
was still pretty much cemented into the starting

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lineup. So it's like if you
best with Mark right. The Denver game

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was when it kind of really you
know, everybody realized like this is,

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this is becoming an issue. So
I think you could you could you could

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look at those numbers and you could
see some good things. You can look

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at those numbers, you can see
some bad things. But um, I

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want to get back to the point
I was making about Terrence. He brought

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that up that when you're looking at
those first five games specifically, the Clippers

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were not only playing without Zoo,
but they were also um playing some really

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good teams. So it's like they
were they were they were playing you know,

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Denver, they were playing I think
Kings twice, so like they were

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playing some good teams as well.
Um So I'm pretty optimistic just based upon

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you know, what I've seen,
what the guys have said about how they

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feel comfort wise, that the fit
could work offensively. I definitely acknowledge the

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numbers that that say it wasn't where
it probably should have been, like you

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said, for a championship caliber team. Um, but I don't think there's

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some contexts as well when you just
talk about who was in the lineup,

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who wasn't in the lineup, who
they were playing, a lot of that,

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and get these guys together for full
training camp, and you have some

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reason to believe that that that it
could work out, because, um we

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also saw the Clippers as as flawed
as taylou was last year, I think

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you saw him get pretty creative with
his deployment of Russ offensively. Um So

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I think you have some reason for
optimism there as well. Like it it's

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not going to be a situation with
the Lakers where it's like you saw him

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standing in the corner a lot with
the Lakers, and that's just not I

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don't think the best use for him, even if you do want to get

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him off the ball and get the
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there's better ways to do that,
and I think the Clippers were kind

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of starting to figure that out last
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camp and a full season, Lord
willing, they can get that gone.

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Do you think Russ is a still
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of Paul George because he did have
his best season statistically with him, I

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mean PG said so, so I
think you kind of just got a rock

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with that, as you know,
polarizing as that topic can be, where

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you can argue whether or not you
think that that should be the case,

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right, Like should Paul George need
a player like Russell Westward to bring events

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out of him? You know you
can argue that all day long. But

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if that's the case, then you
know, I think that it's it can

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be a positive thing. So all
we can go is based upon what PG

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has said, well Kawai has said. Obviously Kawhi is not as vocal,

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but he was this in his comments
about how he felt Russ made him better,

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made the rest of the guys better. And I think to the point

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that I keep bringing up and this
is something that you're never going to see

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on you know, NBA dot com, you know, looking at stats.

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But again, this is nothing against
people. I do that all day long.

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So I'm not taking a shot of
box score Joey, right, I

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try to leave room for both.
So what I was gonna say is that

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I just think the overall belief and
just the overall level of intensity and just

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focus that russ demands of his teammates
is going to be good for this team

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because anybody who's watched this team really
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but definitely last year there was just
a lack of urgency that persisted far too

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often where you just feel like,
how badly do they want it? And

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I think that's a combination of one
just an aging roster that can probably be

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both one fatigued and or injured,
but also true, I do think there

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was just a lack of urgency that
said in at times, and that's just

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something that Russ doesn't allow for,
and it's in practice. He approached it

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the same way in games, he
approached it the same way. So I

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think that just that overall mentality having
him in the mix from day one is

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going to be good for everybody,
from tylu on down to the rookie Sell

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looking forward to that for sure,
that's a good call. We got to

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take a quick break because we do
have to pay some of the podcast bills,

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but coming up, we're going to
talk the contract extension stuff that was

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kind of floating around to day on
Clippers Twitter. Kind of what you alluded

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to earlier too, as well as
how they can take the season more seriously.

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Verse there's ads. If they've been
loud for you, go ahead and

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turn it down. Some people complained
about that. We got ads in three

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two one. All right, so
we're back here on clips and Dip.

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We talked a little bit about Harden
and the Russ fit. We're gonna talk

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a little bit about the regular season. Taylu made some comments on All the

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Smoke about how he'd like people to
take it more seriously. There have been

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comments from fans throughout the offseason about
how they'd like to see younger guys utilize.

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But let's start out talking about something
that is going to become very pertinent,

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which is the contract extensions for both
Kawai and Paula George. I believe

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Kauai is eligible right now. Paul
George will be eligible shortly and basically from

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what I've heard, and Joey correct
me if you've heard anything else, there

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has not been a lot of movements
so far as anything serious in the way

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of offering you extra years. You
know, we have seen Kauai in the

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past kind of let it ride on
an extension. I'm not sure if that

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would be the same approach here.
But by all indications, it seems like

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the front offices pitch or their intention
would be to try and get these guys

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to maybe come for you know what
we've been calling like the hometown discount.

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Given some of the availability concerns,
Where are you at with that? What

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would you be willing to extend these
guys for. Do you think that's something

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that you could sell one or both
of these players on or is it a

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situation where by not offering the max, you've kind of opened the Pandora's box

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where you could lose one or both. Yeah, so it's a good question.

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I think a lot of people that
are in the know are saying the

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same thing right now. Olm was
just on ESPN with he was on the

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Low Post podcast, so that was
on YouTube and I was watching that,

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and basically what Olmes said is that, no, there hasn't been a whole

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lot of discussion right now. He
didn't get too far until why that's the

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case. But he also mentioned as
well that you know, the Clippers of

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course, are potentially hopeful that they
would be able to strike a deal and

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you know, let for less than
the four year max and Olm didn't say

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exactly what he thought that might be, but he folded out like maybe a

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two plus one or you know,
maybe you know, whatever it may be

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that's less than than the four year
max. It would be, you know,

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what the Clippers would hope for.
And again, like I said,

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that's very consistent with what other people
are saying. Brian Windhorse said he would

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be shocking if either of those guys
got the four year max. Zach Lowe,

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you know, echoed similar sentiment.
So you're pretty much seeing around the

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industry from people who would know that
one there hasn't been a whole lot of

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traction with Kauai who was currently eligible
right now, and two, the Clippers

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are probably hopeful that they wouldn't have
to extend those guys to four year max

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extensions. And I honestly think it's
going to be less about like the hometown

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discount thing than it would be just
about like what the market for those guys

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would be outside of the Clippers right
now, because when the Paul George Knicks

409
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,319
rumors were kind of popping up where
you saw like, you know, maybe

410
00:25:30,319 --> 00:25:34,559
the Knicks would be interested in trading
for PG like we saw some reports that

411
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,960
you know, the Clippers were fielding, like not necessarily fielding calls, but

412
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:45,039
we're open to listening on on PG. One of the reports, or one

413
00:25:45,079 --> 00:25:48,480
of the consistencies and all of the
reports that continue to pop up, was

414
00:25:48,559 --> 00:25:52,119
that the Knicks and even the Trailblazers
at that time, when we were thinking,

415
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:53,279
like babies, they're going to be
a scoot for a PG swap,

416
00:25:53,599 --> 00:25:57,640
they were hesitant to do it because
they didn't want to extend him to the

417
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:03,200
max extension that he is reportedly seeking. So when you look at that and

418
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:04,599
you say, Okay, you know, maybe a team like the Knicks wouldn't

419
00:26:04,599 --> 00:26:08,079
be interested in doing it, a
team like Portland, you probably start to

420
00:26:08,079 --> 00:26:11,839
think that, like league, why
there probably aren't going to be a lot

421
00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:17,319
of teams that would just max these
guys one because there aren't a lot of

422
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,079
teams that even have the ability to
do that. But for the teams that

423
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,400
can, it makes sense why they
would have that hesitancy. And it's nothing

424
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,839
against what those two guys are capable
to do, capable of doing when on

425
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,680
the court, but it's just the
fact that they haven't been on the court

426
00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:33,960
enough to justify that. So I
think that's a bit of leverage that the

427
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,640
Clippers have. I don't think it's
going to be as much of a citgion.

428
00:26:36,680 --> 00:26:37,359
This is my opinion, But I
don't think it's going to be as

429
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,720
much of a situation where they're trying
to sell those guys on, you know,

430
00:26:41,759 --> 00:26:44,440
a hometown discount. We got the
new arena coming up, like we

431
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,079
could still win. All that,
Like, all that is great and all

432
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:48,759
that you know is true, but
I don't think it's really going to be

433
00:26:48,839 --> 00:26:52,519
what it's going to take when you
get into these negotiations. The leverage that

434
00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:56,559
players often have is what other teams
are willing to pay for them. So

435
00:26:56,839 --> 00:27:00,480
if there aren't a whole lot of
teams outside of the Clipper that are going

436
00:27:00,519 --> 00:27:02,880
to say, hey, like,
yeah, we would love to give you,

437
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:03,799
you know, the four year max, and the Clippers can say,

438
00:27:03,839 --> 00:27:08,160
hey, you know, here's here's
what we understand to be your your value,

439
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,400
and here's what we're continuing to build
here and you know, here's the

440
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:17,599
offer. So um, I haven't
heard anything much different than that. It's

441
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,759
it's obviously what's been said publicly already
by guys like Ohm who would know,

442
00:27:21,839 --> 00:27:23,480
and by guys like Wind orse who
would know. So I think that's where

443
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,680
we're at right now. In terms
of my opinion on that UM, I

444
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,039
think it's probably pretty much the same
as everybody else. I don't think you

445
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:37,480
can just blindly offer those two guys
for your max contracts right now. You

446
00:27:37,519 --> 00:27:40,599
can't do it right Like, it's
just you can't do it. And I

447
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:45,880
understand the the dilemma where you're entering
a new arena next year and you don't

448
00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,400
want to, you know, enter
a new arena with a rebuilding team.

449
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,720
But at the same time, I
think this actually kind of goes back to

450
00:27:51,799 --> 00:27:53,400
a point I made earlier when you're
talking about why would you make a trade

451
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,400
for James Harden? Well, I
mean where you're sitting right now organizationally with

452
00:27:57,519 --> 00:28:03,079
this era, you got Kawhi ANDPG
both you know, capable coming off the

453
00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:07,559
books next year. Russ can come
off the books next year. What's another

454
00:28:07,559 --> 00:28:10,359
one, you know what I mean, What's what's another guy like Harden at

455
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,000
that point that has the ability to
come up with the books. I mentioned

456
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,240
that as a potential concern on my
last podcast, throwing another guy like that

457
00:28:15,319 --> 00:28:18,559
in the mix. What I ultimately
determined was that, you know, where

458
00:28:18,559 --> 00:28:22,200
you're at right now, You're going
to have to figure this out anyways,

459
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,759
So why not go for it in
this final year and then you know,

460
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:30,559
stumble into those contract situations next summer
when when they actually are able to opt

461
00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:37,039
out. So one thing I will
I would say about extending these guys is

462
00:28:37,839 --> 00:28:41,839
under this new CBA, it looks
like the cap could and likely with all

463
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:47,480
these like second Apron implications and everything, could raise by as much as ten

464
00:28:47,559 --> 00:28:52,079
percent every single year. So on
the flip side, and I'm not advocating

465
00:28:52,079 --> 00:28:56,519
this because obviously availability is a concerned, obviously market value as a concern,

466
00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,319
But if you were to lock those
guys into a number set to the current

467
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:06,119
cap as it is right now,
you could end up that that could end

468
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:10,400
up looking like more of a value
deal, say three four years from now.

469
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,440
Chuck, I'm curious about your thoughts. Is there any way that that

470
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:15,960
would be something you would interest be
interested in knowing that those two guys are

471
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:22,119
going to be here and you know, assuming that there could be I mean,

472
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,319
if the CAB increases by thirty percent
over the next of the year they

473
00:29:26,359 --> 00:29:30,640
sign it, Yeah, that contract
is all of a sudden, it's not

474
00:29:30,759 --> 00:29:34,680
looking so bad that it. Man, the cap rising thing is an interesting

475
00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:37,480
point, and I mean, if
we knew that it was going to go

476
00:29:37,599 --> 00:29:42,480
up to thirty percent, then I
would say probably I would definitely strongly consider

477
00:29:42,519 --> 00:29:47,680
that. It seems like the cb
Yeah, the CBA opened up for some

478
00:29:48,319 --> 00:29:49,640
new investments and things like that,
so it seems like, I don't know,

479
00:29:49,759 --> 00:29:53,440
that could maybe help it. But
when you put it that way,

480
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,720
I think i'd still maybe offer Kawhi
the max versus both of them the full

481
00:29:57,759 --> 00:30:03,920
max. Yeah, but no,
I'm just trying to think of the cap

482
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,599
figures because I'm trying to figure out
if they could then sign another max guy

483
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,720
because ideally, you know, they
would never be bad enough to bottom out

484
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,960
right if that happened, so they'd
be kind of not stuck because it would

485
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:18,319
be a tradable contract if the cap
was thirty percent. Yeah, I say

486
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,839
do it. I don't know if
we know the CAP's gonna be up thirty

487
00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:25,519
percent from when they signed that contract, like, yeah, I mean we

488
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:30,400
max, maybe PG close to it. I don't know. I mean,

489
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:33,519
I think you've got to play a
hardball with them because of the issues,

490
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:37,160
injury issues and when they're thirty five
and six sliding it across the table.

491
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:42,160
Yeah, put it on the Napkins
slide across the dinner table. But ultimately

492
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:48,400
you got to bring them back at
least for this season probably the next couple

493
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,240
for talking about the Intuit Dome and
the attraction of having a major star there,

494
00:30:52,279 --> 00:30:56,200
But the other side of that is
I've seen people say this, you

495
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,680
know, if the availability isn't there
from them, what does it matter if

496
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,279
you have that star on the roster, Like people aren't going to be coming

497
00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:07,920
to the game if they always know
somebody's not going to be available, or

498
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,279
they're going to be missing thirty of
the games per season, and that's pretty

499
00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:14,480
much what we have seen so far
with these two guys. Unfortunately, the

500
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,680
payoff of the load management stuff.
And while of course coach lou was right

501
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:22,839
when he talks about they're not load
managing in the playoffs, we're trying to

502
00:31:22,839 --> 00:31:26,480
win them. These are legitimate injuries. But when they had missed games in

503
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:33,079
the regular season, it's become such
an issue with the fan base that they're

504
00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:36,720
a little bit turned off by that. And if you're not getting the payoff

505
00:31:36,759 --> 00:31:41,240
of them winning the championships in the
end, and you're seeing them get to

506
00:31:41,319 --> 00:31:45,680
the pot of goal, the end
of the rainbow, that's where becomes problematic.

507
00:31:45,759 --> 00:31:48,519
But they could win it this season, and that gives you a ton

508
00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:52,839
more equity because it's proof that this
team was constructed the right way. It's

509
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,079
just been a lot of bad luck
that's been going on. Well, they

510
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,440
talked about it. We've talked about
a lot on this podcast about how you

511
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,880
know the stadium like is a factor, right, like building the intoit dome.

512
00:32:05,359 --> 00:32:08,000
You can't afford a rebuild. But
I think at the same time,

513
00:32:08,079 --> 00:32:14,119
like my question would be, let's
say things end similarly this year as they

514
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:19,559
have for every year during the Kauhi
Paul George era, are we really that

515
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:24,519
convinced that at that point Kauai and
Paul George are the draws for audiences that

516
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:29,920
like, maybe we herald them as
right now, because I'm not so convinced

517
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,640
that you know that happens for the
fifth year, that you're really selling out

518
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,559
seats at an at a much higher
ticket price for these season ticket holders.

519
00:32:38,839 --> 00:32:46,519
If that's the draw, right,
if it happens again this season, I

520
00:32:46,519 --> 00:32:50,200
don't know how people can talk about
it. Well, they have to hold

521
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,319
onto these guys because they're getting a
new arena. If the guys can't play

522
00:32:52,359 --> 00:32:57,440
on the court in that new arena, what does it matter? Ultimately if

523
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,799
this era is just going to be
defined from disappointment because as of injuries,

524
00:33:00,359 --> 00:33:05,359
you know, that's disastrous obviously,
and that's how it's gone so far,

525
00:33:05,839 --> 00:33:08,799
unfortunately. Joey, I don't know
if you feel in a similar fashion,

526
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,880
because I know you followed this team
forever, but last season I would say,

527
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,680
relative to expectations, may have been
the most disappointing season in the history

528
00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:22,839
of the franchise. It probably was, And I think I tweeted about it

529
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,839
quite a bit throughout the course of
the year, and I see it back

530
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,200
towards the end of the year because
like, honestly, I just felt like,

531
00:33:30,359 --> 00:33:32,279
you know, I was just I
was just hitting on so many of

532
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:37,160
the same talking points. And I
think too, you do kind of start

533
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:42,160
to feel for the guys who aren't
able to play, because, like ty

534
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,319
Luka things to say, this isn't
a situation where they are perposely sitting out.

535
00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:49,160
I do think there were a few
games last year where you kind of

536
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,599
look at it, it's like,
all right, you know that one didn't

537
00:33:51,599 --> 00:33:53,119
make a whole lot of stuff.
Memphis game. You know, I was

538
00:33:53,119 --> 00:33:55,160
going to bring up a Memphis game, and I was also going to bring

539
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,799
up the Denver blowout when they didn't
you know, they played like what you

540
00:33:59,799 --> 00:34:05,400
know, fifteen minutes in the first
half, didn't play the second half right,

541
00:34:05,519 --> 00:34:07,119
And so I think there were a
few instances where you look at it

542
00:34:07,159 --> 00:34:08,880
and it was like, all right, like you can, you can have

543
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,119
a gripe with that, but you
know, that's a game here in a

544
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:15,800
game there. If that's all having
this conversation, right, Like, the

545
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,400
reason why we're having this conversation is
because they both missed significant time with injuries.

546
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,320
So I think when you continue to
harp on it does become a little

547
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:27,480
bit tough for that reason. But
back to Adams point, Part of the

548
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,719
conversations that I was having quite a
bit last year was you looked at where

549
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:37,599
the Clippers were record wise, and
you looked at where they were record wise,

550
00:34:37,639 --> 00:34:39,119
again to good teams, like the
teams that they were going to have

551
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:44,320
to beat eventually if they did want
to become the championship team that they hoped

552
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:50,639
to be. At no point last
season did they look like a legitimate championship

553
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:53,719
contender, and people argue, people
argue that that stretch with Terrence as a

554
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,639
starting point guard, you know,
like all that was the stretch where they

555
00:34:57,639 --> 00:35:00,360
were starting to look like a championship
contender. I've back against that, you

556
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,719
know, pretty strongly, because it
was a good stretch, But it wasn't

557
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,599
like until you look at the context
of how they won some of those games.

558
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:10,360
They got lucky at the end of
a bunch of them, quite a

559
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:14,119
few of them. You had the
Nico bailout three in New York. They

560
00:35:14,159 --> 00:35:16,960
completely blew that game and he hit
that three to tie it. They had

561
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:21,719
the game in Brooklyn that they completely
blew where Nico saved that ball out of

562
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,119
bounds ended up getting the hand.
One that was the game where Brooklyn didn't

563
00:35:24,119 --> 00:35:28,639
have Kde Kyrie. Like, there
were those types of games that they didn't

564
00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:30,960
deserve to win and they wanted to
get it the goals to win. So

565
00:35:30,039 --> 00:35:34,119
yes, they won the game.
But one, they weren't playing great opponents

566
00:35:34,199 --> 00:35:37,639
during that stretch. And two a
lot of the wins that they had the

567
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,079
same problems that had persisted all season, the blow leads at the end,

568
00:35:40,519 --> 00:35:45,760
the rotations that didn't make sense,
all of those things were still there,

569
00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:49,960
but they snuck a few wins during
that stretch. So I completely pushed back

570
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,960
against the idea that they looked like
a championship team during that stretch of games.

571
00:35:54,039 --> 00:35:57,760
Is that the best stretch of games
that they had last season? Perhaps,

572
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,760
but did they look like a championship
contender? And absolutely not so when

573
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:05,039
you're talking about the level that they
need to be at in order to win

574
00:36:05,079 --> 00:36:08,079
a title. We didn't see that
for any sustained stretch last season, which

575
00:36:08,119 --> 00:36:10,960
is why I think you can make
the argument that it was the most disappointing

576
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,320
season of the two one three era
because of all the hype that they had

577
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:17,440
in the off season, right like
they you know, supposedly addressed some of

578
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:22,679
the issues that you know, they
had the year prior. And it's tough

579
00:36:22,679 --> 00:36:23,840
to even say that because like the
year is probably what did you even really

580
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,760
look like? You know, Kawhi
and PG were both out almost the entire

581
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,679
season in twenty twenty two, so
it's tough, But there was a lot

582
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:35,760
of high expectations coming into that year. You were like, Okay, this

583
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,079
is the Clipper team that made the
play in pretty much without Kawhi and PG

584
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,280
entirely. Now they're putting them back
into the mix. You know, they're

585
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,400
adding John, you know they're adding
you know whoever else. And it was

586
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,840
one of those things where people that
they actually might have a chance and then

587
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:52,360
it just never came to fruition,
and it was mixed in with just so

588
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,920
much frustration that I think fans are
really starting to think, like, Okay,

589
00:36:57,039 --> 00:37:00,920
this might just be time to chalk
it up on this era. But

590
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:05,320
for some of the reasons we've discussed, they obviously haven't made that decision yet,

591
00:37:06,199 --> 00:37:09,559
and I think it's they're just so
far into it, especially with resigning

592
00:37:09,639 --> 00:37:14,800
Russ. You can't you don't resign
a guy like that to go and then

593
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:19,920
trade Coimpg like they obviously resigned him
with the expectation that those two guys will

594
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,519
be on the roster, they would
continue building around them. So I think

595
00:37:22,519 --> 00:37:23,960
it brings me right back to my
heart and point, you just got to

596
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,199
go for it this year and deal
with whatever comes after it, because you're

597
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,960
so far into it by now and
it's so ugly already that you have to

598
00:37:31,039 --> 00:37:35,760
just continue to do what you can
at this point. And if a player

599
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,679
like James Harden, who would normally
never be available for what he could potentially

600
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:44,400
be available for is actually there and
nobody else is really trying to get him,

601
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,320
then hey, go for it and
see what happens. And then after

602
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:50,480
that, you know, entering the
into a dome, you can let the

603
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,119
professionals make the decisions that they need
to make. And I I don't want

604
00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:58,480
to push back too bad, like
too much on the heart and availability thing.

605
00:37:58,519 --> 00:38:00,880
Obviously we've talked about it a bunch
here makes a lot of sense for

606
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:07,880
the Clippers. One team that it
really doesn't make any sense for is his

607
00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:13,320
current incumbent team, and I think
that like part of it is is a

608
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,840
you know, we have nothing that's
of the value to offer. And I

609
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:22,400
understand one hundred percent that Harden's value
is not at the level of a Dame

610
00:38:22,559 --> 00:38:25,639
or obviously you know, Kevin Durant
or what we've seen for other players.

611
00:38:25,679 --> 00:38:30,440
We know that he wants to play
for this certain team. But if you're

612
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,920
Philadelphia, there's one guy on the
roster who's far more important than James Harden.

613
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:40,400
And I don't see any situation currently
unless you somehow work out a three

614
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:45,679
team or with Portland or something where
you can get a good enough player to

615
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:50,840
keep Joel and being happy. And
I think if you look historically at the

616
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:54,039
NBA, like so, essentially for
what the Clippers have to offer, the

617
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:59,800
Sixers would need to be in a
position where they're essentially ready for a rebuild,

618
00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:02,800
right. And I think if you
look historically at the NBA and you

619
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:08,760
look at teams that have traded a
player after an MVP season, and I

620
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:15,239
mean directly after it, I can
only find two. And you have to

621
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:20,800
go back to the Wilt Chamberlain trade
in Moses Malone, and those were also

622
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:25,519
very situational things where it was very
different. I understand the heart and trade

623
00:39:25,559 --> 00:39:30,199
for the Clippers. I would love
it. I think that it's truly the

624
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:34,920
best move for them. I don't
really understand it for the other side.

625
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,000
And I think that it makes sense
that, like I understand that the Terrence

626
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,239
point, like Terrence is a sticking
point for fans and stuff. But if

627
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:47,679
I'm Philadelphia and I'm staring down an
offer that's centered around Norm Terrence maybe a

628
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:53,239
first in some Secdler, well,
I'm saying, like that is that's the

629
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,960
Godfather offer, right, That's the
Godfather offer for the Clippers. That that

630
00:39:58,119 --> 00:40:00,639
is truly, that is all that
we can give you. We cannot offer

631
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:05,480
you anything else. I think,
literally, yeah, And I'm looking at

632
00:40:05,639 --> 00:40:07,000
well, that's why I said earlier. Yeah, I mean, but if

633
00:40:07,039 --> 00:40:12,960
I'm looking at that, I'm saying, I like, am I am I

634
00:40:13,039 --> 00:40:15,239
ready to trade? Like? Am
I ready to trade? Joel Ebieve?

635
00:40:15,360 --> 00:40:21,119
Like that? Is that a good
enough contender in the East to keep an

636
00:40:21,199 --> 00:40:25,000
MVP who after another second round exit, no matter what you do, might

637
00:40:25,039 --> 00:40:30,239
be gone. Like is that enough? And I think, you know,

638
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:35,199
if I'm Darryl Morey probably hanging up
the phone on that offer. Absolutely,

639
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,400
And that's why I said earlier,
that's why we don't Yeah, because it's

640
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:40,639
not yeah, no, one hundred
percent. That's why I you know,

641
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:45,519
kind of broke down where we are
and said, that's why I don't think

642
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:49,280
we have a deal. And I
don't think we're anywhere close to the deal

643
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:53,800
because what the Clippers one are offering
right now. But even even like what

644
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:59,599
you bought up is not consistent with
the type of package you would normally see

645
00:40:59,639 --> 00:41:02,760
sent out for a player like James, you know, because that could be

646
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:06,320
another avenue, right like they do
a deal with the Clippers, they get

647
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,360
rid of Harden. Maybe they're willing
to move off a MAXI, but like

648
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:13,760
from what win Horse was saying,
he's completely unavailable, So you know,

649
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:16,960
it's it's just it seems very puzzling
to look if you if you're looking at

650
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:22,239
it from the Sixers perspective, it
could oh what one hundred percent is?

651
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,719
And I think that that's why this
is just such a unique situation because I

652
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:30,800
don't think we've ever seen a player
of Harden's caliber, even at this stage

653
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:35,159
of his career, be valued this
low around the league. And I don't

654
00:41:35,159 --> 00:41:38,400
think it's as much to do with
what he's capable of, but just his

655
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:44,159
current situation. We've seen what an
unhappy James Harden can look like. And

656
00:41:44,199 --> 00:41:50,400
if you're a team acquiring him on
in a contract year where he can walk

657
00:41:50,559 --> 00:41:53,679
in the off season, I think
that that's why we're even having a conversation

658
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:58,400
that the Clippers have the ability to
potentially acquire a player like in U.

659
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,599
So yeah, I completely under stand
where we're coming from. And like I

660
00:42:00,599 --> 00:42:06,760
said earlier, that's why, point
blank, we don't have any real new

661
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,559
traction on a deal because the seventy
six ers are not in a position to

662
00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:15,000
take on what the Clippers are currently
offering, or potentially what their best offer

663
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,239
would even be because of where they
are as an organization, they have to

664
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:23,400
continue to maintain that championship window.
With an MVP like Joel Embiid. You

665
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:29,360
can't just take expiring deals in some
future picks back for a player like James

666
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,960
Harden. You just can't do it
because you have to maintain your championship window.

667
00:42:34,199 --> 00:42:36,440
And that's where we get to our
staring contest. I think we're gonna

668
00:42:36,519 --> 00:42:40,239
end up at a fork in the
road where we're getting towards training can't and

669
00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:45,360
the Clippers want to get James Harden
in the mix. The Philadelphia seventy sixers

670
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:46,760
know that he doesn't want to be
there, but they also feel as if

671
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:51,480
organizationally, they can't afford to accept
what's being offered, and something's gonna have

672
00:42:51,519 --> 00:42:54,159
to give. I can't predict right
now what that's gonna be, but that's

673
00:42:54,159 --> 00:42:58,559
where we're headed. And the point
that you bring up is the reason why.

674
00:42:58,679 --> 00:43:02,159
Because if it were a situation where
the Clippers had one something they were

675
00:43:02,199 --> 00:43:07,280
willing to offer, and two something
that the seventy six Ers were willing to

676
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,719
accept, we'd have a deal already
and we'd be talking about what James Harden

677
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,920
is going to look like in a
Clippers uniform. But that's not where we're

678
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,760
at. So for the points that
you brought up, we're heading towards a

679
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:22,360
very unique, perhaps unprecedented type of
staring contest where we're looking at a player

680
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:27,800
that wants one team and one team
only, but that team understands they aren't

681
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,840
also in a position to give up
one of their best assets and Terrence,

682
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:36,599
because you look around this roster right
now, what type of roster construction are

683
00:43:36,599 --> 00:43:39,639
we been talking about if you can't
rely on a guy like Terrence? Obviously

684
00:43:39,679 --> 00:43:43,199
we know Ty doesn't play him as
much as he should, but a guy

685
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,360
like that to play big, rotational
minutes with the other guys that would potentially

686
00:43:46,360 --> 00:43:49,840
still be left on the roster.
Do we believe even with James Harden,

687
00:43:50,039 --> 00:43:52,920
that is a championship contending team with
some of these guys maybe having to play

688
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,760
more minutes than they already did last
season. So yeah, there's a lot.

689
00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,440
There's a lot to talk about when
it comes to this particular James Aren't

690
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,239
situation, and I don't think anybody
can predict one hundred percent what it's going

691
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,639
to look like, because it's pretty
unique. We haven't seen anything quite.

692
00:44:07,679 --> 00:44:10,280
The other layer to all this is
now the NBA is trying to put the

693
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:15,880
kabosh on stars wanting out and right
to go to one team and one team

694
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:20,880
only with the release they've made regarding
Damian Lillard. So it's going to be

695
00:44:20,920 --> 00:44:24,920
an exceptionally challenging how they're declining every
call from Harden's agent. We don't want

696
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:30,440
any leaks of what the anything to
do with that, you know what's the

697
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:34,960
other day, dude, I literally
wrote about that the other day because everyone

698
00:44:35,079 --> 00:44:37,519
was talking about hard Ericcuse Lillard when
this came out, and rightfully so,

699
00:44:37,559 --> 00:44:42,199
it was directed in him. But
I think it was a very unique situation

700
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:45,519
for Hardening the Clippers because what it
did was and who knows what the punishment's

701
00:44:45,559 --> 00:44:47,440
going to be, right Like,
it could be, you know, the

702
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,199
type of flap on a risk where
it's like a player doesn't really care,

703
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:53,079
but let's just for the sake of
the argument, pretend that it's something that

704
00:44:53,079 --> 00:44:57,639
would actually deter you know, a
player like Hardened from you know, engaging

705
00:44:57,639 --> 00:45:00,880
in the type of behavior that the
league's trying to stop He just lost a

706
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,000
little bit of his power play,
right, Like, if he's able to

707
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,079
come out eventually and say, hey, I'm not gonna suit up for the

708
00:45:07,159 --> 00:45:09,440
Knicks if they trade for me,
you know, I'm not gonna suit up

709
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,800
for me. They basically shut that
down in that memo. So it's also

710
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:19,719
something to consider. It could just
be baked in anyways, because it's James

711
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,239
Harden and people know how he tends
to go about these things. But to

712
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:28,320
transition away from Philly, who could
be in a transitional phase over the next

713
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,039
year, I could see them just
waiting for Tobias to come off the books

714
00:45:30,039 --> 00:45:34,079
and sell Joel and bead On.
Hey, we're gonna bring somebody else in.

715
00:45:34,119 --> 00:45:37,480
But that's tough. He's in his
prime. But going back to the

716
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:43,639
regular seasons off that we had,
we played the audio somewhat. You play

717
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:47,280
the audio from your phone from my
phone into the microphone of Coach Leu on

718
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:52,920
all the smoke pod, a very
unprofessional manner. We played it here,

719
00:45:52,559 --> 00:45:57,480
but a lot of people, I'm
just gonna throw this out there to everybody,

720
00:45:57,559 --> 00:46:00,960
but a lot of people immediately after
we're hearing his comments talking about taking

721
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:07,119
the regular season more serious than him
directing that at Kauai and Paul George felt

722
00:46:07,159 --> 00:46:10,159
some kind of way about Coach Lou, saying that when there was a lot

723
00:46:10,159 --> 00:46:15,719
of experimenting last season openly post game, he would talk about it, and

724
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:20,599
some of it's very understandable because of
the transition with the roster and bringing in

725
00:46:20,639 --> 00:46:22,960
new guys all the time, and
then Russ, But they did ask for

726
00:46:23,079 --> 00:46:29,199
that. How did you guys feel
about Coach Loose saying that, I guess

727
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:32,639
coming from him where a lot of
people did early in the season point the

728
00:46:32,679 --> 00:46:38,239
finger and say, well, you're
kind of lending itself to lending the regular

729
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:44,480
season to some of these losses because
there's so much fiddling. As we talked

730
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,639
about the Fiddler. I think we
said that about Coach Lou early in the

731
00:46:46,679 --> 00:46:54,039
season. I think it was Fiddler. Yeah, Yeah, we love Coach

732
00:46:54,119 --> 00:46:59,119
Lou, but obviously it was happening
during the regular season. So how do

733
00:46:59,199 --> 00:47:01,880
we how do they go about taking
the regular season more seriously when it's not

734
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:06,960
just they're two superstars, but also
coach lew who wants to try things out

735
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,760
in the regular season. Yeah,
so I actually saw it a little bit

736
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:14,760
differently than some of the people who
were talking about the you know, too

737
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,719
much tinkering, too much trying you
know this or that, I think it

738
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:22,719
was kind of the opposite. I
don't think there was enough trying new things.

739
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,800
We saw Marcus continue to start well
beyond uh, you know, the

740
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:30,199
amount of games that he should have. You know, we'll talk about Marc.

741
00:47:31,239 --> 00:47:36,800
We never saw the all wing lineup
that was kind of touted in training

742
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,840
camp. Um, you know,
there were some things that we just didn't

743
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,719
see that we thought we were going
to see, Like they stuck with the

744
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,320
three guard lineups way too long.
So I think it was more a lack

745
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:51,119
of tinkering and adjustments than you know, trying too many things. I get

746
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,679
we had different moving pieces with you
know, John and them being in and

747
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:58,880
then out and then Russ being in, So I get that that was part

748
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,039
of it. But when you're just
talking about it straight from an adjustment standpoint,

749
00:48:01,639 --> 00:48:07,079
part of why people coming into the
season were confident in the roster that

750
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:09,400
they had, even without a backup
center at the time, was because of

751
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:15,159
Tyler's ability to kind of experiment and
find what works. We didn't really see

752
00:48:15,159 --> 00:48:17,800
that as much as we thought we
were going to we saw a lot of

753
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,119
sticking with what wasn't working, whether
that be three guard groups or whether that

754
00:48:22,199 --> 00:48:27,280
be you know, Marcus or whatever
it may be. I think we kind

755
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:30,800
of saw a lack of tinkering,
you know, kind of putting my fingers

756
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,519
in quotes what it was that,
you know, we hoped to see.

757
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:37,679
But to the point of his comments
about taking the regular season more seriously,

758
00:48:37,559 --> 00:48:42,559
my question is, well, what
exactly does that look like? Because if

759
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:47,159
we're having the conversation about load management
and saying that, well, load management

760
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,920
wasn't exactly what was occurring last year. It was more so like when you're

761
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,920
talking about on a wide scale the
miss games were actual injuries, then what

762
00:48:54,960 --> 00:49:00,679
are we exactly referring to log Right, It's like, what are we exactly

763
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:02,519
talking about when we say we need
to take the regular season more seriously.

764
00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:06,920
I don't think we have like a
direct answer of what he was even kind

765
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,800
of suggesting. And honestly, that's
that's something that I don't mind asking,

766
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:13,960
like you know, at Media Day
even or whenever we talked to Ti Nex.

767
00:49:14,039 --> 00:49:16,159
It's like it's not in a way
to try to tricker more challenge and

768
00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:20,840
this is an honest question when you
talk about, what, you know,

769
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,760
taking the regular season more seriously and
what that looks like, what exactly are

770
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:28,239
you suggesting, Because obviously Ti isn't
the type of guy that is just you

771
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:30,800
know, of the belief that KAWHIMPG
were just sitting out because they felt like

772
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:35,440
sitting out. One that's not what
was occurring, and two that's certainly not

773
00:49:35,519 --> 00:49:38,199
something that he felt. So when
you talk about taking the regular season more

774
00:49:38,199 --> 00:49:42,679
seriously, I still don't think we
one hundred percent know what he was referring

775
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:46,239
to. I kind of believe perhaps
it was just the overall intensity level,

776
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:50,800
because Ty has talked a lot about
how much that change once Rush showed up,

777
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,559
right, Like, they went harder
in practices, they went harder in

778
00:49:52,639 --> 00:49:57,760
games, Like just their overall focus
level was better. So perhaps he's talking

779
00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:00,960
about just having that from day one. But again, I don't want to

780
00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,800
make sure I hit on the point
that you brought up about fans being upset

781
00:50:04,159 --> 00:50:07,480
about that message coming from him when
there was just a lot of you know,

782
00:50:07,719 --> 00:50:12,679
questionable to be nice about it,
you know, decisions that were made

783
00:50:12,679 --> 00:50:15,320
on his part. I get it, and I completely get in, and

784
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:19,679
I don't think that you need me
to tell you that right now, for

785
00:50:19,719 --> 00:50:21,599
you to know that I get it, Like I feel like I was pretty

786
00:50:21,599 --> 00:50:27,840
consistent last year with pointing out the
things that that didn't make sense, So

787
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:30,960
I understand the frustration. I definitely
know where it's coming from, because there

788
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,719
were quite a few things last year
that just flat out didn't make sense.

789
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,679
I think you can make the argument
that even with the injuries that the Clippers

790
00:50:37,679 --> 00:50:42,280
dealt with, and even with the
very conservative approach to Kawhi, Leonard Paul

791
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:47,840
George's workload, if they would have
had a more locked in approach to one

792
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:52,000
just the season in general, but
also too, if Ty would have been

793
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,000
more intentional about, you know,
maybe pivoting away from some of these things

794
00:50:55,039 --> 00:51:00,000
that so clearly weren't working, the
Clippers would have been in a better spot

795
00:51:00,159 --> 00:51:04,679
last season then they were when the
season ended, even with the injury situation.

796
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,880
So there's a lot of that to
break down. When you talk about

797
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,280
taking the regular season more seriously,
it's a lot more nuance than just saying

798
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:14,360
Kawhi and PD need to play more. Clearly, No, and I think

799
00:51:14,599 --> 00:51:19,400
you touched upon it, it is
just a lack of intensity quarter to quarter,

800
00:51:19,519 --> 00:51:22,199
possession to possession game to game at
times with these guys. Where we

801
00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:27,000
saw it when they flipped that switch
against the Memphis Grizzlies when they were down

802
00:51:27,039 --> 00:51:30,320
seventeen or whatever it was coming into
that fourth quarter after fifty one, after

803
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:35,960
just getting lit up by Memphis team
without Jaw and they just knew they had

804
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,800
to win that game and they did, and you could see there was a

805
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:43,880
different level of energy out there.
And I do think he was trying to

806
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,760
figure out a way a lot of
mouths to feed with all the guards to

807
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:50,320
start off the season, to make
it work where everybody was getting minutes,

808
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,280
and that's not an easy job.
So it was kind of like he was

809
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:55,840
takering in all the ways that people
didn't want him too when you just wanted

810
00:51:55,840 --> 00:52:00,320
to see wingstop and we were having
those expectations coming into the season. It

811
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:05,039
never came to fruition. But and
it was the ten game sample size too.

812
00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:07,400
I think from Tylou that kind of
like it is the right amount of

813
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:10,800
games to figure out if things work. But when you're only doing kind of

814
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:16,079
like he said, I'm kind of
maybe different areas that should be fixed for

815
00:52:16,199 --> 00:52:21,440
ten games, it gets well.
You know what's interesting is that last year,

816
00:52:21,559 --> 00:52:24,239
he actually I don't know if this
even got tweeted out a whole lot,

817
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:30,079
but he actually said that he was
increasing his usual ten game sample size

818
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:34,400
even more than that because of how
many new moving pieces they had, and

819
00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:37,400
partially because Kawuhi started this season like
two games off the bench and then we

820
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:40,840
didn't see him for a long time. So he was actually asked that question

821
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,760
at beginning last year, and again
I don't know really if it got tweeted

822
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:45,679
out or if it got tweeted out
a whole lot, but I do remember

823
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:50,880
him saying that he was actually going
to increase that window of ten games.

824
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:52,440
So he didn't give like a number
of it, but he's like, it's

825
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,960
going to be more because we just
have to see so longer. But it

826
00:52:55,079 --> 00:52:59,000
got to a point where it's like
you also got to start winning games,

827
00:52:59,039 --> 00:53:01,079
and you also have to start putting
your best product out there on the floor.

828
00:53:01,599 --> 00:53:05,000
It's an eighty two game season.
It's his in baseball, where you're

829
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,440
playing one hundred and sixty two games
and you have more time to figure some

830
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:12,039
of these things out, Like especially
with the Clippers not having their best guys

831
00:53:12,039 --> 00:53:15,840
available at the time, their margin
for air wasn't that large, so last

832
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,320
year they couldn't afford to play with
some of these things, I think as

833
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,239
long as they did, which is
where some of the frustration was setting in

834
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,239
with the fan base, where it's
like, Okay, clearly this isn't working.

835
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:28,239
And there were some of the things
that were like very glaring, right

836
00:53:28,239 --> 00:53:30,440
like when you just talk about you
know, the Reggie minutes and even the

837
00:53:30,519 --> 00:53:36,440
John minutes early on, and those
guys with other guards that just even if

838
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:37,719
you never saw them together, you
would probably be able to predict that it

839
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:42,679
wouldn't work. There was just so
many of those things that even if his

840
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,519
sample size and again I'll give him
that because he was open about that,

841
00:53:45,559 --> 00:53:49,880
even if it was, you know, planned to be increased, because of

842
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,920
so many moving parts that the Clippers
had going on, it got to a

843
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,960
point last year where it's like,
Okay, you can't just continue to run

844
00:53:57,039 --> 00:54:00,280
with this because it's so clearly not
working and we're falling down the stand and

845
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:01,760
now you know, two weeks left
in the season, we actually have to

846
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:06,000
keep ourselves out of the play it. So he alluded to that on all

847
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:07,559
the Smoke, and we'll see what
it looks like next year, we'll see

848
00:54:07,559 --> 00:54:12,159
what it looks like in terms of, you know, him and the team

849
00:54:12,199 --> 00:54:15,760
in general taking the regular season more
seriously, It's tough when you got to

850
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,360
get guys to buy in and give
him that opportunity to fail, which could

851
00:54:19,400 --> 00:54:23,400
be ten games or however many games
that were promised, even though everybody's seeing

852
00:54:23,400 --> 00:54:27,719
it the same way. It's tough
to go back on that if you already

853
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,400
told somebody, hey, we're going
to give you this amount of time and

854
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,920
see what it looks like. I'm
sure it's just not easy being a coach.

855
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:40,000
Counterpoint, incredibly easy. That's why
so many coaches m championships. All

856
00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:44,119
right, coming up, we got
to talk about some random stuff. There

857
00:54:44,159 --> 00:54:47,400
was some weird drama about Jandre Jordan's
old number as well as Marcus Morris is

858
00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:52,199
on threads for those of you who
were on threads and want a new follow.

859
00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:54,519
But first we got ads coming up. They've been a little out for

860
00:54:54,559 --> 00:54:58,079
some people. So if that's been
your because we hadn't turn it down.

861
00:54:58,079 --> 00:55:01,280
We got AD's coming up in three
two? What all right, we are

862
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:07,920
back with random stuff. kJ Martin
is going to wed DeAndre Jordan's old number

863
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:13,679
is this weird. I've been going
back and forth in my head if this

864
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:16,559
is weird or something that I'm just
thinking about because it's the off season and

865
00:55:16,639 --> 00:55:22,639
there's a horrific heat wave ripping through
my apartment without central AC. But Adam

866
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:28,599
Will Joey, is this weird?
Will? We'll start with you weird,

867
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:32,079
not weird. It's like our version
of haggle, no haggle, but much

868
00:55:32,199 --> 00:55:37,559
less. We're fined. I don't
think it's that weird. I'm sorry,

869
00:55:37,639 --> 00:55:39,440
not weird, all right, I
don't think it's that weird. Um.

870
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:47,719
Look, I love DeAndre always will
one of the funnest eras of Clippers basketball,

871
00:55:49,039 --> 00:55:54,039
most fun. But the way I
gotta be honest, man, the

872
00:55:54,039 --> 00:55:58,480
way that his tangure ended here kind
of left me with a bad taste in

873
00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:02,159
my mouth. Also, like,
how do you determine what number is off

874
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:07,079
limits? You know? Like,
is you know, proud as I am

875
00:56:07,119 --> 00:56:10,159
of like what they were able,
how they were able to develop DeAndre the

876
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:17,159
incredible rebounder that he was, truly
Like, I like, if that's the

877
00:56:17,159 --> 00:56:22,239
caliber state, not to be rude, but like, if that's the caliber

878
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:27,000
of player that the number is off
limits, then what number do you choose.

879
00:56:28,679 --> 00:56:30,360
I mean, he's the all time
leader in games played for them,

880
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:35,840
rebounds, field goal percentage. But
I get it too, I could see

881
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,760
either way. I mean, did
kJ Martin Was he a fan growing up

882
00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:44,199
here in so Cal? Was that
his guy? Because if he wants to

883
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,880
board like DeAndre Jordan's I'm fine with
that. If his number of wearing his

884
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:52,480
number inspires him, I'm good.
Joey. Yeah, So I don't think

885
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:59,039
Again, we don't know if this
is a situation where DJ really cares or

886
00:56:59,119 --> 00:57:00,519
like, because I mean, this
is obviously that's a great point for it.

887
00:57:00,639 --> 00:57:04,199
But did he post a thread today? Are sure that he didn't?

888
00:57:05,559 --> 00:57:10,360
Like? The Angels just gave Randall
Richard Tim Tim Salmon's number fifteen. Uh,

889
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:14,559
he's the first. Yeah, he's
the first player to wear it since.

890
00:57:14,599 --> 00:57:16,599
But Tim Sammon actually went on the
record and said, like he's completely

891
00:57:16,639 --> 00:57:20,199
fine with it. Um, you
know, didn't have an issue with it.

892
00:57:20,199 --> 00:57:22,960
So it's like, we don't know
how the players themselves feel about it,

893
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:27,039
right, So like there could have
very well been a conversation between DJ

894
00:57:27,199 --> 00:57:30,400
and kJ Martin where they talked about
it. Das, dude, wear my

895
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:31,000
number, you know what I mean? So, like we we don't really

896
00:57:31,039 --> 00:57:34,360
know that, um. In terms
of how I feel about it personally,

897
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:36,800
I think the only thing that kind
of caught me off guard a little bit

898
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:42,639
is that I don't know if you
guys remember two seasons ago when incorrectly,

899
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,119
when you Gabriel was listed on the
roster with Blake's thirty two. I don't

900
00:57:46,119 --> 00:57:52,719
know if you guys remember that,
but it was when we had him for

901
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:57,760
what was it a ten day or
that game against hey Man. Yeah,

902
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:01,599
maybe put his his jersey in the
routers that touch that number one. Yeah,

903
00:58:01,639 --> 00:58:07,519
but actually initially winning was listed on
the official Clippers or also at NBA

904
00:58:07,559 --> 00:58:12,199
dot com when number thirty two,
So people might yeah, you know,

905
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:15,480
you know I feel about that.
You know I feel about that. So

906
00:58:15,559 --> 00:58:16,639
I was like, man, what's
going on with this? Got a Kia

907
00:58:16,639 --> 00:58:21,920
commercial? Now? It's crazy?
Right? Um? You probably you probably

908
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:25,719
know Max Resa, right um works
for the Clippers, and I just lived

909
00:58:25,719 --> 00:58:30,760
a twitter by he's the director of
team operations. Uh. When that was

910
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,880
all going down, he cleared it
up and he said, no, Gabriel

911
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:37,920
is not thirty two, he's actually
thirty five. He said, we hold

912
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,880
thirty two off limits. So this
wasn't. I just put it up on

913
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:44,360
my phone. This was January first
of twenty twenty two, and he got

914
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:49,280
a response on Twitter and fan asked
him which other numbers do you guys hold

915
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,159
off limits? And he said,
three, six, and thirty two.

916
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,639
They started the culture here, it's
only right to block those off. So

917
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,559
I actually had a couple of people
send me that yesterday because I was part

918
00:58:58,599 --> 00:59:00,519
of that thread, because I was
one of the people who was like,

919
00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:04,440
wait a minute, why when the
game will have Blake thirty two? So

920
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,039
I was actually tagged in that threat. So a couple of people send me

921
00:59:07,039 --> 00:59:08,360
that yesterday. They're like, wait, what's going on? Why does kJ

922
00:59:08,519 --> 00:59:13,119
have number six? When m Max
said that they were holding it off?

923
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,280
So again I don't know what went
into that. It was his number Inston

924
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:20,840
too, because the other part is
that it was his number before the league

925
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,199
officially retired six for Bill Russell,
so he can keep it as long as

926
00:59:24,199 --> 00:59:30,480
he doesn't change it. So I
wonder if you under like DJ is still

927
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:35,000
an active point player, so it's
not like he's a retired player and they're

928
00:59:35,039 --> 00:59:38,440
getting ready to a ceremony for him
at into a dome or something. Yeah,

929
00:59:38,559 --> 00:59:42,400
right, And I think it would
be different if he had thirty two,

930
00:59:42,559 --> 00:59:45,800
right, Like, let's say it
just for sure it wasn't. I

931
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:51,119
I'm very fond of DJ and what
he meant to the Clippers during that era,

932
00:59:51,159 --> 00:59:54,320
and I do think he should have
his jersey retired um at the end

933
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:58,199
to a dome. But it would
be different if it was thirty two.

934
00:59:58,239 --> 01:00:00,519
So I think for that reason,
um, you know, there could have

935
01:00:00,519 --> 01:00:04,079
been a conversation. I think we'll
probably eventually find that out. Right,

936
01:00:04,519 --> 01:00:07,840
Um, I think DJ's a pretty
chill guy. I don't think he's the

937
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:08,800
type of guy that would really have
that big of an issue with it.

938
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,800
So in terms of being an actual
issue, no, I don't think it's

939
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,559
an actual issue. I just think
that there was some confusion because of well,

940
01:00:15,559 --> 01:00:19,599
like I said, it had been
at least somewhat kind of probably stated

941
01:00:19,639 --> 01:00:22,719
that six was being held off limits
with three and thirty two. Um,

942
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:24,440
so there's that's where some people were
like, wait, what's what's going on

943
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,840
with that? But again, we
don't know exactly what's going on. It

944
01:00:28,039 --> 01:00:30,800
could just be a situation where DA's
like, men, where isn't the tire

945
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:37,679
the chair retire the chair yea retire
the chair that what number was? What

946
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,599
was Brandon Knight wearing when DeAndre Jordan
dunked on him? What number he has?

947
01:00:42,159 --> 01:00:46,000
Mine says eleven number? Yeah,
all right, And we got to

948
01:00:46,039 --> 01:00:52,800
talk about the Marcus Morris thread.
I it's that was a thing on Twitter

949
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,880
announced what Instagram calls their version of
Twitter, that's lost half of its user

950
01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:00,039
base, but not Marcus Morris.
He is still on thread for better or

951
01:01:00,039 --> 01:01:05,280
for worse, he tweeted. He
threaded something to the effect of wish I

952
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:08,760
had my Twitter bum ass Clippers fans
l O L. I think there was

953
01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:13,880
a Z. I maybe it was
bumb ass the Clippers had a Z.

954
01:01:14,039 --> 01:01:15,679
I don't know. I thought Threads
was a nice, friendly place. I

955
01:01:15,679 --> 01:01:20,320
thought that was how they were distinguishing
themselves from Twitter. I'm gonna say this

956
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:24,719
before. I think I totally get
where Marcus Morris is coming from, because

957
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:32,920
Clippers Twitter people were creating specific accounts
to horribly troll this man who was never

958
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:37,960
supposed to be the number one option
on the Clippers team. I don't.

959
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:42,519
I think sometimes people think maybe he
had some kind of power over Tyler where

960
01:01:42,519 --> 01:01:45,760
he was like, let I'm gonna
play I don't think that's what happened.

961
01:01:45,079 --> 01:01:50,199
I can see him not wanting to
be on Twitter at all because of how

962
01:01:50,679 --> 01:01:57,480
a small percentage, very small percentage
of Clippers Twitter in particular, kind of

963
01:01:57,559 --> 01:02:01,280
went at Marcus Morris during this year. It just got mean, you know,

964
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:07,880
it just got me Adam go ahead, now mean inappropriate? Over the

965
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:14,440
line. Also, is he supposed
to not start if he's in the starting

966
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,760
lineup and give up his spot like
Vince Carter in the All Star Game for

967
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:21,360
MJ or something like if the coach
wants to put him out there, he's

968
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,719
going to start. We know,
especially the last half of the season,

969
01:02:24,199 --> 01:02:29,480
Marcus did not perform like he had
previously with the Clippers. But this is

970
01:02:29,519 --> 01:02:32,079
somebody who hit big shots in the
playoffs, obviously against Dallas with the seven

971
01:02:32,159 --> 01:02:37,039
three pointers, played big when Kawhi
went down, especially against Phoenix in a

972
01:02:37,039 --> 01:02:42,480
couple of games in the Western Conference
finals, like the incoming got a little

973
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:47,760
bit uncomfortable. I think for everybody
who was there to make weird stuff about

974
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:51,960
him. It was, yeah,
the pictures like his wife and saying like

975
01:02:52,079 --> 01:02:54,639
Marcus, time to come home,
time to retire, and stuff like it

976
01:02:54,719 --> 01:02:58,440
was over the line. It crossed
the line. I think it took the

977
01:02:58,519 --> 01:03:01,679
fandom. I know people are just
doing it for cloud and retweets and likes

978
01:03:01,719 --> 01:03:05,440
a lot of the time, and
they're not that serious about it, but

979
01:03:05,519 --> 01:03:09,000
it's still it was unbecoming of Clipper
Nation. I would say, I'm becoming

980
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:13,960
Joe a very small minority of Clipper
Nation. Do you have a stronger word

981
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:19,440
than unbecoming to use? You know, people, people might not believe this

982
01:03:19,519 --> 01:03:22,559
about me, because obviously I do, you know, tweet frequently, but

983
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:27,960
this obviousason. In particular, I've
been trying to stay off of Twitter as

984
01:03:28,079 --> 01:03:32,559
much as possible because during after my
first full season on the beat, like

985
01:03:32,599 --> 01:03:37,679
I was just exhausted mentally, I
was just trained. It was. It

986
01:03:37,719 --> 01:03:40,400
was an exhausting year. So I
don't know what's developed this summer a whole

987
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:44,559
lot in terms of like how people
were coming up Marcus. But I did

988
01:03:44,599 --> 01:03:46,360
see some of the stuff during the
season. I mean some of it was

989
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:50,960
in my replies. I would post
the starting lineup and it would be in

990
01:03:51,039 --> 01:03:52,480
my reply, So like, yes, I've seen quite a bit of it.

991
01:03:53,159 --> 01:03:57,920
Um. Absolutely, the stuff that
Adam mentioned is too far, should

992
01:03:57,960 --> 01:04:00,960
never happen. It's the same stuff
that, um, you know, we

993
01:04:01,159 --> 01:04:04,039
would call out the Lakers fan base
for doing right, Like there's certain things

994
01:04:04,079 --> 01:04:09,079
that you just should never say.
Um, certain lines you should never cross.

995
01:04:09,159 --> 01:04:13,480
So if that's what he's referring to, and if it's a situation where

996
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:15,719
like he's seen some of that,
I don't know what he's seen or what

997
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:17,400
he hasn't seen, then of course
you're going to have an issue with that.

998
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:24,119
Um. It was just very shocking
to kind of see him call out

999
01:04:24,159 --> 01:04:29,000
the fan base directly like that.
Again, I'm not going to sit here

1000
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:34,719
and right because obviously, yeah,
he would be he was already commentrated this

1001
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:39,679
offseason, and he would definitely be
a player would be included in one of

1002
01:04:39,679 --> 01:04:42,039
these traits. So yeah, like
obviously all that's at play. I don't

1003
01:04:42,079 --> 01:04:44,920
know what he's seen was specifically he
was responding to, So I'm not going

1004
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:47,559
to pretend to know. Um,
but yes, I've seen the stuff that

1005
01:04:47,639 --> 01:04:50,679
has uh you know, crossed the
line, and I don't think it,

1006
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:56,440
you know, takes somebody with like
some super high like moral conferences say like,

1007
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,000
yeah, that shouldn't happen, Like
obviously there's certain things that that shouldn't

1008
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:01,760
be said, and um, there
there have has been some of that,

1009
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:03,880
and I don't think I've seen all
of it, but I've seen some of

1010
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,440
it. So um, yeah,
it's kind of just where I'll leave that

1011
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:13,320
will counterpoint. Now you argue the
other side of this argument, drag him

1012
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:15,079
further. You know what, Marcus
Morris, you think it's tough here way

1013
01:05:15,239 --> 01:05:19,360
you're in Philly, buddy, just
he's from there, right, Yeah,

1014
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:24,440
I think he would, he would, but the situation is probably untenable,

1015
01:05:24,519 --> 01:05:28,360
not just because he was almost traded, but now this, like I have

1016
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:34,719
a hard time seeing Marcus Morris being
in the roster opening night from both from

1017
01:05:34,719 --> 01:05:39,480
both sides, it just seems like
a situation where he will be moved,

1018
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:44,559
regardless of if we're talking about James
Harden or not. Yeah, And I

1019
01:05:44,559 --> 01:05:46,199
mean I want to be clear too, like going back on the world of

1020
01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:50,239
saying, I don't want to come
across as if I'm like bashing Clippers fans

1021
01:05:50,239 --> 01:05:54,239
for being upset the way he playing, because like that's not where I'm at

1022
01:05:54,239 --> 01:05:56,599
either, Like I'm just strictly talking
about like you said, and you know,

1023
01:05:56,719 --> 01:06:00,000
making accounts of his wife and something
like that, like be serious.

1024
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,480
It's like, let's not let's not
do that. Um there there there's stuff

1025
01:06:02,519 --> 01:06:04,440
that I did see a little bit
of that that it's like, all right,

1026
01:06:04,519 --> 01:06:06,360
yeah, we obviously shouldn't do that, but also want to be clear

1027
01:06:06,440 --> 01:06:11,519
too, like I completely understand where
some of the frustration is coming from from

1028
01:06:11,519 --> 01:06:15,960
Coobers fans, because it's just it's
beyond just his his poor play as well,

1029
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:18,079
like we had the report from Andrew
where he was like upset with with

1030
01:06:18,159 --> 01:06:23,920
his role. Um. And I
think too, like there's Coolbers fans who

1031
01:06:24,239 --> 01:06:29,039
observed body language, um, you
know, observed different things that they saw,

1032
01:06:29,119 --> 01:06:31,800
where like Rocco was a guy who
was out of the rotation all season

1033
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,440
long last year. You know a
lot of people felt wrongfully so and you

1034
01:06:35,519 --> 01:06:39,639
watch him on the bench and like
every single game he's up, every single

1035
01:06:39,679 --> 01:06:43,360
game, he's cheering, Like every
singal game, he's engaged, like sacrificed.

1036
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,760
So I think fans see that and
they say that's how a player who,

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01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:50,519
in their opinion, and I think, you know, rightfully, you

1038
01:06:50,559 --> 01:06:56,079
know, hold that opinion should have
been playing who was the ultimate teammate.

1039
01:06:56,400 --> 01:07:00,440
Whereas now like we're getting reports where
Marcus got much longer of a lease than

1040
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,280
he should have and we get that
report from Mandu where he was still unhappy.

1041
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:09,920
So um, I think that's where
some of the frustration stems from from

1042
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:13,599
the fan base. In no way
would I ever say that that warrant making

1043
01:07:13,639 --> 01:07:16,559
an account of his wife and like, you know, taking that that's ridiculous.

1044
01:07:16,599 --> 01:07:20,719
But when you're just talking about the
overall sense that the fan base had

1045
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:26,800
towards him and then now him like
saying bumbask slippers fans, I get where

1046
01:07:26,920 --> 01:07:30,880
that that kind of riff is.
So um. Yeah, that's criticizing someone's

1047
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:35,239
play. I think it's always fair
game. You're a paying customer. You

1048
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:39,440
want to see guys play better.
I don't know if it's always helpful.

1049
01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,719
I don't know if booing a guy. I remember when Bias was taking a

1050
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,719
ton of incoming from Dodgers fans all
the time. I don't know if that

1051
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:49,079
helps a guy with his confidence.
But it's your right to do so.

1052
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:54,400
I don't agree with taking it too
far, and that's what it got to

1053
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:58,360
eventually. But I brought up his
play, and I was taking calls every

1054
01:07:58,440 --> 01:08:00,760
night, and I don't think I
think half the calls I got last season,

1055
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:04,360
somebody had something to say about Marcus
Moore. You were started with dollars,

1056
01:08:04,440 --> 01:08:08,039
you were upset with callers like no, I mean, it just got

1057
01:08:08,079 --> 01:08:11,280
to the point where, look,
I can't explain it either, why he's

1058
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:15,360
still still starting when I'm watching that
game, a critical game against the Pelicans

1059
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,840
late in the season, the home
game for the Clippers, and I think

1060
01:08:18,079 --> 01:08:21,479
there were eighteen points scored on him
in the first quarter and it was tough

1061
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:26,960
to watch. They were trying to
hide him. It wasn't working. But

1062
01:08:27,199 --> 01:08:30,880
again, that's Marcus is a paid
player to be out there. It's not

1063
01:08:30,039 --> 01:08:34,239
his fault. He's not going to
bench himself. But yeah, a lot

1064
01:08:34,279 --> 01:08:38,880
of stuff crossed the line obviously for
sure. Well, we are about to

1065
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,079
wrap this up. This has been
a wonderful episode. Joey. You need

1066
01:08:42,079 --> 01:08:45,800
to promote what do you got coming
up? Where can these wonderful people find

1067
01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:49,920
you if for some reason or not
already following your Clippers content? You have

1068
01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:55,960
minimum fifteen minutes to promote yourself now, I'm just kidding, Where can people

1069
01:08:56,000 --> 01:09:00,119
find you? Yeah? So you
have not been as considered when my podcasts

1070
01:09:00,159 --> 01:09:02,920
and summer as much as I would
like to, because I really have just

1071
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:10,279
been listen, man, I'm being
honest when I say last season took a

1072
01:09:10,279 --> 01:09:15,319
lot out of me. It was
of pretty much every reporter there. It

1073
01:09:15,399 --> 01:09:17,840
was a crime man, And I
am so blessed and thankful to have the

1074
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,800
opportunity that I have to be able
to work the job that I work.

1075
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:25,000
So I want to make that clear
that I'm not complaining. But when last

1076
01:09:25,039 --> 01:09:28,640
season ended, like I needed to
take a break just from just talking about

1077
01:09:28,680 --> 01:09:31,079
basketball in general. So I've only
released a few podcast episodes, but I

1078
01:09:31,079 --> 01:09:35,279
do have my clothes that I will
sporadically be you know, having episodes up

1079
01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:39,520
throughout the summer. Once the season
starts, I'm going to get right back

1080
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:44,279
into it. I'm honestly thinking about
maybe kind of like rebranding my clips combos

1081
01:09:44,319 --> 01:09:47,880
Instagram and making it just more so
like my own personal like you know,

1082
01:09:48,359 --> 01:09:51,880
NBA work stuff where I post my
videos and like stuff like that. So

1083
01:09:51,920 --> 01:09:55,119
I might do that, you know, towards the beginning of the season.

1084
01:09:55,159 --> 01:09:59,000
But in terms of where I'm most
active, obviously Twitter, Joey Lynn underscores

1085
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:01,840
where I'll probably be you know,
one through you know, twice three times

1086
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,680
a week. Maybe whatever I'm doing
this summer, I'm not all that active

1087
01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:10,000
but you guys know that during the
season, I'll be tweeting about all the

1088
01:10:10,039 --> 01:10:13,239
relevant stuff that needs to be talked
about. So yeah, that's where you

1089
01:10:13,239 --> 01:10:16,000
can follow me on Twitter. Joey
Lynn Underscore were the offiction on Pocombo's Joe.

1090
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,439
If you want to peek in every
week or two weeks, there might

1091
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,920
be a new episode there. But
that's where we're out right now. Well,

1092
01:10:21,960 --> 01:10:26,039
we appreciate you stopping buy. It's
been fantastic. We hope the rest

1093
01:10:26,039 --> 01:10:29,520
of your off season is relaxing and
the Twitter break is good for you.

1094
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:31,520
We should probably all take a break
from Twitter. Well, where can people

1095
01:10:31,560 --> 01:10:35,159
find this podcast and video of this
podcast? If they haven't, you could

1096
01:10:35,199 --> 01:10:40,039
check this podcast out over on iTunes
or Spotify. If you left rating or

1097
01:10:40,039 --> 01:10:42,680
review for us on either one of
those platforms, it'd be great. You

1098
01:10:42,680 --> 01:10:45,840
can also listen to us on Google
Podcasts. We're on Stitcher, We're on

1099
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:47,279
Deezer, We're on Amazon Music.
Anywhere you listen to podcasts, you can

1100
01:10:47,279 --> 01:10:51,119
listen to this show. You can
check out the video of this over on

1101
01:10:51,119 --> 01:10:55,520
YouTube that's at Clippers Podcast and don't
forget to chop it up with us over

1102
01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:59,319
on Twitter that's at Clippers Pod.
We're still there until it burns down or

1103
01:10:59,319 --> 01:11:02,199
whatever, so appreciate Yeah, thanks
for listening, Adam. Any positive to

1104
01:11:02,279 --> 01:11:08,119
leave the Clippers fans off with,
Yeah, I'll kind of underscore what Joey

1105
01:11:08,279 --> 01:11:12,199
was saying. We're definitely dealing with
some first world problems right now. Clipper

1106
01:11:12,319 --> 01:11:15,399
Nation is not used to that with
the team with championship expectations, first world

1107
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:20,079
NBA problems. But a wise man
once said, worst day in the NBA,

1108
01:11:20,279 --> 01:11:25,520
best day anywhere else, and that
man would be Brian Seaman, who

1109
01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:28,479
I believe is going to be joining
us at some point in the near future

1110
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:30,800
on this podcast. So we'll tease
that out. We absolutely will. We

1111
01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:33,239
appreciate everyone. We hope you have
a great rest of your weekend. As

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always, let's go clips.