WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.280 --> 00:00:03.160 Hey, Before we get started, be sure to head over to ham Radio 2 00:00:03.200 --> 00:00:09.960 two dot com forward slash email dash sign up to join my email list of 3 00:00:10.080 --> 00:00:14.400 over nineteen thousand subscribers, where I like to send emails about upcoming events, 4 00:00:14.480 --> 00:00:18.359 upcoming shopping deals, keep you updated with all the stuff going on with my 5 00:00:18.480 --> 00:00:22.839 videos. Once that list reaches twenty thousand, I will be doing a giveaway 6 00:00:23.359 --> 00:00:28.600 of another HF radio sign up today and thank you for the support. This 7 00:00:28.640 --> 00:00:33.200 is an Apex eight thousand Motorola clone by ham Geek. I found this on 8 00:00:33.320 --> 00:00:39.240 eBay. It is not nearly the price of a Motorola Apex radio. It's 9 00:00:39.280 --> 00:00:44.520 a dual band radio that's made in China right there, and I've been tinkering 10 00:00:44.560 --> 00:00:47.320 around with it for the last, you know, the last couple hours today 11 00:00:47.399 --> 00:00:49.759 just kind of get ready for the video. And I think it's got some 12 00:00:49.880 --> 00:00:54.200 cool features to it. But if you're frustrated because Motorola radios are so expensive, 13 00:00:54.479 --> 00:00:57.520 I'm gonna show this to you, which might be an alternative, but 14 00:00:57.600 --> 00:01:00.640 I'm also going to tell you why I think it's probably worth maybe worth it 15 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:04.319 is not the right word, why motorolas are so expensive, and what value 16 00:01:04.400 --> 00:01:12.480 you get over something like this stay tuned. So this is the Apex eight 17 00:01:12.599 --> 00:01:15.640 thousand. This is really cool. I like the fact that it comes with 18 00:01:15.680 --> 00:01:21.120 this device here that go on your belt clip and then this just drops down 19 00:01:21.159 --> 00:01:25.000 in side of it like that and you can wear that on your belt clip 20 00:01:25.000 --> 00:01:30.920 and then easily pull that out like that, easy access if you're you know, 21 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:34.120 if you've got a belt clip going on. So that was a cool 22 00:01:34.120 --> 00:01:37.920 feature to it. Here, it's got the look of an Apex eight thousand 23 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:40.840 because it's got the screen here which you can turn it off and on like 24 00:01:40.879 --> 00:01:44.040 that. So that's the screen there. Obviously, that's the buttons. It's 25 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:47.599 got an extra screen on top here like the Apex radios do, so that's 26 00:01:47.680 --> 00:01:51.480 kind of fun. It's got a microphone right here so you can talk in 27 00:01:51.519 --> 00:01:53.519 from this side, and it's got a microphone right here so you can talk 28 00:01:53.560 --> 00:01:57.920 in from that side. And it's got dual PTT buttons right here. This 29 00:01:57.959 --> 00:02:04.959 one will key the radio up and then this one will keep the same band 30 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:09.840 up. So I thought maybe one of them would control the top band and 31 00:02:09.840 --> 00:02:13.479 one of them control the bottom band, but no, they're both. You 32 00:02:13.479 --> 00:02:15.680 can see it says Maine right there on the bottom band, so they're both 33 00:02:15.759 --> 00:02:19.680 controlling the bottom band. And that just means you can you can hold it 34 00:02:19.719 --> 00:02:22.400 like that and look at this screen, or you can hold it like that 35 00:02:22.479 --> 00:02:24.439 and look at this screen. This screen goes off after like two or three 36 00:02:24.479 --> 00:02:27.759 seconds. You can't adjust the timeout on that. And I'll show you that 37 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:31.520 here in a second. It has a USB C programming port right here, 38 00:02:32.039 --> 00:02:36.000 and it has a USB C port on the back of the battery to charge 39 00:02:36.039 --> 00:02:38.639 the battery directly. I'm not sure if this programming port will charge the radio 40 00:02:38.719 --> 00:02:42.039 or not. I kind of think it won't, but I haven't tried it 41 00:02:42.120 --> 00:02:46.080 yet. Oh you're gonna have to get a wow that it did come with 42 00:02:46.120 --> 00:02:50.520 the USB C cable. This white cable right there. I wonder if that'll 43 00:02:50.520 --> 00:02:53.599 fit in there. Yeah, that does the fit. So the head of 44 00:02:53.639 --> 00:02:55.919 this cable's too large to go in there. So let's see. Let's plug 45 00:02:55.960 --> 00:03:01.039 this up and see if it might just be for programming. I don't know 46 00:03:01.039 --> 00:03:04.960 why I else it would have two USB ports on it, so we turn 47 00:03:05.039 --> 00:03:08.120 that on. It doesn't really show a charging indicator on the face of the 48 00:03:08.240 --> 00:03:12.639 radio, so I'm guessing no, that's not going to charge it. But 49 00:03:12.680 --> 00:03:15.159 if you plug it in back here. This will charge it and you'll have 50 00:03:15.199 --> 00:03:21.000 a little indicator light right there that tows you it's charging. So no charging 51 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:24.520 indicator on the screen, nothing like that. But you can charge the battery 52 00:03:24.560 --> 00:03:29.479 itself via USB C the cable that comes with it at least or makes me 53 00:03:29.879 --> 00:03:32.280 a cable with a smaller head on it than that one. This is somewhat 54 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:38.840 waterproof because it comes with a small screwdriver that you can use right here to 55 00:03:38.919 --> 00:03:42.439 take this battery off. This battery drops out. There's not an EFCC number 56 00:03:42.479 --> 00:03:46.439 behind it, so I'm sure this thing's not really legit for sale. But 57 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:49.680 since Part ninety seven doesn't require a certified radio, you know, I can 58 00:03:49.759 --> 00:03:53.000 use it if I want to. I programmed a few frequencies in it, 59 00:03:53.080 --> 00:03:57.639 and quite frankly, I was surprised at how easy it was to program. 60 00:03:57.960 --> 00:04:00.719 I was wondering if it would be something difficult to program, but honestly, 61 00:04:00.919 --> 00:04:04.199 I thought it was pretty darn easy to program. But these are programmable buttons. 62 00:04:04.199 --> 00:04:09.240 You can go into the menu here. Wow, that's loud. Okay, 63 00:04:09.520 --> 00:04:15.199 So it's got forty six presets in here. SETP is your step, 64 00:04:15.560 --> 00:04:17.240 so it'll go down to five Killer hurt steps. It will do the twelve 65 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:20.199 point five killer hurt steps, so that's good. It will not do two 66 00:04:20.199 --> 00:04:24.920 point five killer hurt steps though I think I set mine at five. There 67 00:04:24.959 --> 00:04:30.759 we go, squelch save transmit power. It claims that it will do twelve 68 00:04:30.040 --> 00:04:35.000 watts. Here is the eBay page that I got it from. Ham Geek 69 00:04:35.040 --> 00:04:42.279 Apex eighty twelve watt walkie talkie radio with dual PTT duplex working mode. That 70 00:04:42.319 --> 00:04:46.560 means it works repeaters. I've yet to see a radio that is newer design 71 00:04:46.639 --> 00:04:50.680 that won't work duplex offsets. That means when you key up, it keys 72 00:04:50.759 --> 00:04:54.920 up an offset of plus or minus six hundred killer hurts for the two meter 73 00:04:55.000 --> 00:04:57.720 band, or plus or minus five mega hurts for the full forty band, 74 00:04:57.959 --> 00:05:01.000 or plus or plus five mega hurt for the GMRS band. I don't know. 75 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:04.839 I think that's just kind of a marketing gimmick there, But they do 76 00:05:04.879 --> 00:05:10.720 advertise it as a twelve wat ht that's the little green screwdriver right there that 77 00:05:10.759 --> 00:05:13.879 it comes with, and for one hundred bucks. One hundred bucks. And 78 00:05:13.879 --> 00:05:15.920 I found this, and I'm like, you know, I'm poking around on 79 00:05:15.920 --> 00:05:17.160 eBay looking at other stuff. I found this, and I'm like, okay, 80 00:05:17.160 --> 00:05:19.360 I gotta try that. That just kind of looks really cool, So 81 00:05:20.000 --> 00:05:23.600 we're going to give that a shot here in just a second and go through 82 00:05:23.639 --> 00:05:27.360 the rest of the menu and transmit power. It does have a Roger b 83 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:30.120 p Hey, there you go, time out timer, VOX wide narrow voice. 84 00:05:30.199 --> 00:05:33.519 You can turn this voice off, frequency and channel you can go in 85 00:05:33.560 --> 00:05:36.920 here. I programmed this button on the side over here to change back between 86 00:05:38.560 --> 00:05:42.720 a VFO and memory channels, so channel MDF. I don't know what that 87 00:05:42.759 --> 00:05:45.120 does. You press that and it doesn't go anywhere. I didn't look at 88 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:48.800 the manual yet. Transmit and receive both CTCSS and dcs, so it's got 89 00:05:48.839 --> 00:05:54.720 all that there. Offset direction for a repeater, offset direction, offset frequency 90 00:05:55.160 --> 00:05:59.759 display setting. You can change it to single or double so you can display 91 00:05:59.759 --> 00:06:02.120 both bands at the same time or one. Let's see language, it'll do 92 00:06:02.240 --> 00:06:05.720 Chinese or English. It came in English. This is pretty cool. You 93 00:06:05.720 --> 00:06:09.920 can turn the beep off right there. This is pretty cool. Display mode. 94 00:06:10.079 --> 00:06:13.319 You can turn it to white so to do a white display. And 95 00:06:13.319 --> 00:06:15.920 that's really bright right there. Most people these days like this night time. 96 00:06:16.199 --> 00:06:20.319 They call it nighttime display. So I'm just planning on leaving mind right there. 97 00:06:20.720 --> 00:06:24.879 But you have that option if you want it for whatever. Busy channel 98 00:06:24.920 --> 00:06:30.040 lockout, vox delay s see revision lock mode auto auto lock the screen tone. 99 00:06:30.319 --> 00:06:34.240 It'll do four different tones one hundred hertz, fourteen fifty, seventeen fifty 100 00:06:34.240 --> 00:06:39.680 and twenty one hurts for subautible tones. PF one long press. That's this 101 00:06:39.759 --> 00:06:43.319 button right here. It doesn't have a PF one short press menu. I 102 00:06:43.360 --> 00:06:46.079 thought that was strange, but I didn't find that one in the menu at 103 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:49.160 all. PF two short press, which is the bottom button on the side 104 00:06:49.199 --> 00:06:53.279 of it here. This is PF one. This is PF two, and 105 00:06:53.360 --> 00:06:57.759 then PF two long press. So you can set all those there memory channel. 106 00:06:58.000 --> 00:07:00.800 You can write to the memory channel from there, delete the channel, 107 00:07:00.879 --> 00:07:09.240 repeater, switch repeater, RCT, scramble a compander, Okay. Frequency scan 108 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:15.360 of version version is one dot two dot two four three three zero this time 109 00:07:15.480 --> 00:07:17.040 by time of this recording, and then you can reset the whole thing. 110 00:07:17.519 --> 00:07:21.839 So I changed this one as a long press to go. We're in uh, 111 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:25.839 yeah, I think that's VAFO mode right there. Oh we're on the 112 00:07:25.839 --> 00:07:28.879 bottom band. Yeah, so we're in VFO mode. So I can long 113 00:07:28.920 --> 00:07:33.000 press this and go to channel mode. This channel one, two, three, 114 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:36.560 and four that I programmed in here myself. These are local two meter 115 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:42.439 repeaters to me, I can hold this down again, tell me the channel 116 00:07:42.519 --> 00:07:46.040 number. I don't know some people might like to see that. I don't 117 00:07:46.040 --> 00:07:49.519 find that useful myself. Hold it down again, and it changes back to 118 00:07:49.560 --> 00:07:53.120 a channel mode again, and I'm like, I don't know the difference. 119 00:07:53.160 --> 00:07:56.639 Maybe if you were to put there's not a way to put a name into 120 00:07:56.800 --> 00:07:59.360 the radio unless it's done via software. There's not a way to do it 121 00:07:59.360 --> 00:08:01.720 in the menu that I've found yet. And then if you go to this 122 00:08:01.759 --> 00:08:05.519 one, it changes to channel mode and it has the menu down here at 123 00:08:05.560 --> 00:08:09.720 the bottom has the frequency display just like right there next to it. So 124 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:13.600 I guess it tells you you can tell which band it on. And it's 125 00:08:13.639 --> 00:08:15.839 kind of main right there that'll tell you which band it on. But I 126 00:08:15.879 --> 00:08:18.120 don't know why it would list it down there again. Maybe if you have 127 00:08:18.199 --> 00:08:20.959 a name right here, then it'll tell you what the frequency is right there. 128 00:08:20.000 --> 00:08:22.480 So this is a different display option, which is kind of fun, 129 00:08:22.639 --> 00:08:26.480 but that's what it is. What it looks like right there. I want 130 00:08:26.480 --> 00:08:28.040 to put it on the meter and put it on the tiny SA and see 131 00:08:28.040 --> 00:08:33.000 what it looks like. Okay, I have this hooked up to my MFJ 132 00:08:33.639 --> 00:08:37.159 eight four to nine meter. Probably going to be changing this meter out soon 133 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:41.240 for one of the intelletron meters. This was donated to me by a NFJ 134 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:45.240 a long time ago. So I've got five to two and four four six 135 00:08:45.279 --> 00:08:48.039 dot zero. I tried to transmit on on the two twenty band. This 136 00:08:48.200 --> 00:08:50.919 radio is locked out of the two twenty bands, so it won't transmit there, 137 00:08:50.960 --> 00:08:54.200 but it will transmit on gmrs. It's advertised as twelve blats. It's 138 00:08:54.240 --> 00:09:00.519 not quite doing that much. We're gonna go with the one five twenty band 139 00:09:00.559 --> 00:09:05.159 at first two meters simplex, so it's doing about seven and a half watts 140 00:09:05.240 --> 00:09:09.200 right there. SWR looks good going into a dummy load and no problem there. 141 00:09:09.240 --> 00:09:11.840 You can see it fluctuating. That's fine. It's only got two power 142 00:09:11.879 --> 00:09:15.759 settings, low and high. And if I go in here to transmit power 143 00:09:16.600 --> 00:09:22.200 and that's high and that's low there back there, transmit here there, it's 144 00:09:22.240 --> 00:09:24.960 about three and a half watts on low power and about seven and a half 145 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:28.679 watts on high power. That's not bad. Seven and a half watts. 146 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:35.279 Most hts will do five to five to eight watts something like that, So 147 00:09:35.320 --> 00:09:37.440 seven and a half to eight watts is not bad, but it's not the 148 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:41.879 advertised twelve watts that it says it is. However, on the four forty 149 00:09:41.919 --> 00:09:46.080 band, I got much better results. Here's what we're doing on four forty 150 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:50.799 six dot three dot zero, all right, so we're gonna do about nine 151 00:09:50.840 --> 00:09:54.120 and a half watts there. Okay, I found this out the hard way. 152 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:58.360 If I go down to four to three six and key up, it's 153 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:03.080 there's your twelve watts right there, almost thirteen watts. Twelve and a half, 154 00:10:03.120 --> 00:10:07.240 almost thirteen watts on four thirty six, which is inside of the ham 155 00:10:07.320 --> 00:10:11.519 radio band, and that's where a lot of data transmissions go. A lot 156 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:16.600 of times your hot spots, maybe your Sherry All Star or your PI Star 157 00:10:16.679 --> 00:10:18.840 stuff will go down there or something like that. So okay, that's still 158 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:22.399 inside the amateur radio band. I'm gonna go to four six two five five 159 00:10:22.559 --> 00:10:28.159 zero and uh right there, and I'm gonna key that up, and it 160 00:10:28.200 --> 00:10:31.559 does ten and a half almost eleven watts, well, just over ten watts. 161 00:10:31.600 --> 00:10:35.519 In the GMRS section of the band, So it does lower power on 162 00:10:35.240 --> 00:10:39.799 the four forty six or four forty one. I tested both for forty six 163 00:10:39.799 --> 00:10:41.799 and forty four four forty one. It does lower power on both of those 164 00:10:41.840 --> 00:10:46.360 bands than it does And that's where the FM. The FM portion of the 165 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:50.360 four forty amateur radio band is four four zero to four five zero four four 166 00:10:50.440 --> 00:10:54.399 zero to four four nine nine nine five or something like that. Most of 167 00:10:54.399 --> 00:10:58.960 your repeaters are in that range. You can do FM down around four three 168 00:10:58.039 --> 00:11:01.279 seven four to three eight four three six something like that. My own personal 169 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:05.799 Shehrry note is on four to three seven five five simplex, So you can 170 00:11:05.840 --> 00:11:07.919 do FM down there, especially if it's low power and whatnot. But you 171 00:11:07.960 --> 00:11:11.399 know, most of your repeaters are going to be four forty or higher. 172 00:11:11.799 --> 00:11:15.679 So it's actually doing less power in that section of the band than it is 173 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:18.879 elsewhere. Okay, so that's that it does not do the advertised twelve watts, 174 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:22.440 but well, it doesn't do the advertised twelve wats on two meters for 175 00:11:22.440 --> 00:11:24.960 sure, But I don't know, man, I mean, I think that's 176 00:11:26.000 --> 00:11:30.120 pretty still pretty darn good because it's seven and a half watts on two meters 177 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:33.399 and uh ten ish watts on four forty and then of course you can. 178 00:11:33.720 --> 00:11:37.120 You can do tennish watts on GMRS if you want to. I'm not saying 179 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:41.639 you should. I'm not saying I advise it, but you know that's yeah, 180 00:11:41.759 --> 00:11:45.200 you can you if you did it, I'm not gonna come back. 181 00:11:45.279 --> 00:11:46.480 I'm not gonna come knocking on your door saying, hey, you shouldn't be 182 00:11:46.559 --> 00:11:50.519 doing that. I don't really care. All right, let's put it on 183 00:11:50.519 --> 00:11:52.039 the tiny essay and see what happens. While I get this set up, 184 00:11:52.080 --> 00:11:56.799 I want to tell you that today's video is sponsored by Mesi and Polony Coax. 185 00:11:56.840 --> 00:12:00.399 Messi and ploone makes some of the best coacts for the amateur eady market 186 00:12:00.559 --> 00:12:03.360 and for GMRS. I've gotten a couple of comments on different videos lately about 187 00:12:03.440 --> 00:12:07.960 what's the best coacs to use for a GMRS base station, And my answer 188 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:13.399 to that is pretty much the largest diameter coax that you can run in your 189 00:12:13.480 --> 00:12:16.720 current situation. If you can only run some like five inch coacts, then 190 00:12:16.759 --> 00:12:20.120 do that or five five millimeters coactres shou'd say Messi emplomies from Italy. That's 191 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:24.840 how they're measured in millimeters. They have airborne five and the five means five 192 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:30.639 millimeter. They have ultraflex and hyperflex seven and ten. I think the ten 193 00:12:30.679 --> 00:12:35.320 milimeter is a little bit harder to come by, but the five millimeter is 194 00:12:35.480 --> 00:12:39.120 easier to run in like a vehicle application. The seven milimeter is a little 195 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:41.240 bit larger, a little bit thicker, a little bit lower loss in longer 196 00:12:41.360 --> 00:12:46.120 runs. And that's what typically I would recommend for somebody setting up a base 197 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:48.519 station. Set it up one time and you don't have to mess with it 198 00:12:48.559 --> 00:12:52.240 anymore. Mezzimplombe comacs. You can always get a twenty percent discount with the 199 00:12:52.320 --> 00:12:56.080 coupon code of HR two cables at the link in the description below. So 200 00:12:56.159 --> 00:12:58.039 thank you Mezi Emplomenting for supporting this channel. What I'm have to do is 201 00:12:58.120 --> 00:13:03.039 make sure this thing is on low power. I don't want to push ten 202 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:07.519 or twelve watts into this tiny essay. So we're on the uh, we're 203 00:13:07.559 --> 00:13:11.840 on the bottom band right now. Let's now, let's start on the top 204 00:13:11.879 --> 00:13:13.960 bandle start on twos two meters is where most of these radios are dirty, 205 00:13:15.279 --> 00:13:16.639 and then on two twenty and four for the ones that will do two twenty 206 00:13:16.679 --> 00:13:20.279 they're usually a lot cleaner on those bands. Than the R and two meters. 207 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:22.879 So I suspect this one is going to be Okay, it's on low 208 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:26.919 power already. I suspect this one is going to be dirty on two meters 209 00:13:28.039 --> 00:13:33.519 like the rest of them are. So let's go to measure harmonic dot five 210 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:37.879 to two megahurts mega hurts, and then we'll go over here and we'll go 211 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:46.639 to level minus forty times one. Okay, there we go, and now 212 00:13:46.639 --> 00:13:50.120 we're going to key up and let it do its thing. Yeah, so 213 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:54.519 you can see three harmonics already four uh number one there, that's where it 214 00:13:54.559 --> 00:13:58.360 should be, and that's that's it's doing exactly what it should do. On 215 00:13:58.440 --> 00:14:00.879 that first harmonic right there, which is one forty six top five, it's 216 00:14:00.919 --> 00:14:03.159 raving one forty six top five right there. The third and the fourth harmonic 217 00:14:03.279 --> 00:14:07.320 kind of went away after a couple of seconds, after maybe four or five 218 00:14:07.399 --> 00:14:13.120 seconds, the second harmonic is down here at negative just over negative twenty, 219 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:18.039 maybe like negative eighteen. That's not terrible. FCC regulations dictate that it should 220 00:14:18.039 --> 00:14:24.159 be around negative forty, so that is not terrible to do. So after 221 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:26.240 holding it down for you know, probably thirty forty seconds, now it's still 222 00:14:26.279 --> 00:14:30.320 down there. So that's not terrible. That's one of the cleaner signals I've 223 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:33.519 seen coming out of an HT from China. So not where it should be, 224 00:14:33.879 --> 00:14:37.559 but not horrible either. So I feel what I feel, okay, 225 00:14:37.840 --> 00:14:39.240 transmitting with that on one forty six top five to two. I mean, 226 00:14:39.279 --> 00:14:43.399 it's only like seven watts like we saw. It's not like we're transmitting several 227 00:14:43.519 --> 00:14:46.440 hundred watts. All right, let's go down here to the bottom band and 228 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:50.639 four to sixty two dot five to five, which is the inside of the 229 00:14:50.720 --> 00:14:54.159 GMRS band, And again we're going into a dummy low guys, we're not 230 00:14:54.200 --> 00:15:00.679 actually transmitting outside of the of the of the of the shack really two dot 231 00:15:00.840 --> 00:15:07.879 five five megahertz. And then we'll go back over here to level minus forty 232 00:15:07.759 --> 00:15:11.559 times one. Okay, and I'm going to make sure I'm on low power 233 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:16.679 here. I'm on high power, so I don't want that low power on 234 00:15:16.799 --> 00:15:22.120 four to forty and there we go right there. Actually four sixty two. 235 00:15:22.519 --> 00:15:26.480 Technically it's not even supposed to be transmitting on this band because it's not a 236 00:15:26.720 --> 00:15:31.200 GMRS radio. Since it's from out overseas and outside of the USA, it 237 00:15:31.440 --> 00:15:35.200 does not have an FCC stamp on it. We can use this stuff in 238 00:15:35.240 --> 00:15:39.360 amateur radio because we have experimenter's license, but GMRS is more stringent than that. 239 00:15:39.519 --> 00:15:41.279 Okay, so we got the first harminic there. That's that's where it 240 00:15:41.320 --> 00:15:43.679 should be. That's what we should be seeing over there. Number one on 241 00:15:43.720 --> 00:15:48.679 the right or on the left weather Number two is around negative ten, and 242 00:15:48.720 --> 00:15:52.320 then number four is around negative about almost negative ten also, okay, number 243 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:56.679 two went away. Number four is at like one point four eighty six gigahertz 244 00:15:56.759 --> 00:15:58.960 right now it's transmitting. It's a negative ten, so it's got a little 245 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:03.080 bit of spurs in there. It's not terrible. It's not the cleanest signal 246 00:16:03.120 --> 00:16:07.480 I've seen on GMRS. Though. Let's go to for forty one zero zero 247 00:16:07.679 --> 00:16:15.960 zero. I'm gonna go back here, measure harmonic, and we're gonna key 248 00:16:15.039 --> 00:16:18.720 up on that. We're still on low power, so we're fine there. 249 00:16:18.440 --> 00:16:22.720 Now I expect to see it's probably not gonna be a huge difference between four 250 00:16:22.240 --> 00:16:26.919 for one and four six two. See a little bit of spur over here, 251 00:16:26.039 --> 00:16:29.799 that's not a big deal. Number two spurs coming way up there. 252 00:16:30.399 --> 00:16:36.120 Number two spurs almost it's zero that's dropping down now negative ten again, it 253 00:16:36.159 --> 00:16:38.639 should be at negative forty way down here, way down there, way down 254 00:16:38.679 --> 00:16:42.320 there. Okay, it dropped off after a few seconds, maybe ten or 255 00:16:42.320 --> 00:16:45.480 twelve seconds. It dropped off. It's got this little itty bitty one over 256 00:16:45.559 --> 00:16:51.320 here, which is might not even be accurate two point nine to eight gigahertz. 257 00:16:51.320 --> 00:16:55.279 Okay, Now overall that that's a fairly clean signal. Really, I 258 00:16:55.399 --> 00:17:00.360 mean for one hundred dollars Chinese radio, that's not bad. So I was 259 00:17:00.639 --> 00:17:04.400 honestly expecting to see a lot worse than that, because this is a total 260 00:17:04.480 --> 00:17:08.960 knockoff of a Motorola APEX eight thousand radio. Actually, the Apex eight thousand, 261 00:17:10.039 --> 00:17:14.119 if I'm not mistaken, will also transmit on the seven to eight hundred 262 00:17:14.119 --> 00:17:17.799 megahertz band for public safety, so it'll do. There's several different versions of 263 00:17:17.839 --> 00:17:19.200 it, and I don't have all the Apex you got. You Motorola guys 264 00:17:19.240 --> 00:17:22.640 can comment on and make a comment in the chat if you want to, 265 00:17:22.880 --> 00:17:26.440 in the video if you want to. There's several different versions of handheld Moltorolas. 266 00:17:26.599 --> 00:17:30.359 Some of them will do VHF and seven eight hundred megahertz. Some of 267 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:33.519 them will do UHF and seven hundred and eight meg hurts, and I think 268 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:37.279 the eight thousand series is actually triband it'll do vhf uhf and seven eight hundred 269 00:17:37.319 --> 00:17:41.799 megahertz. And those radios are full open transmitter on all bands because they're part 270 00:17:41.880 --> 00:17:47.599 ninety. But the thing you're gonna notice with this radio is the rejection what 271 00:17:47.759 --> 00:17:52.000 they call d sense, what they call front end overload. Here a little 272 00:17:52.000 --> 00:17:56.000 bit of static in that. That's the UIs repeater for four to two dot 273 00:17:56.119 --> 00:18:00.599 nine hundred and I can hit that repeater from low power pretty much anywhere around 274 00:18:00.680 --> 00:18:03.359 my house, so it's got a little bit of static. In case five 275 00:18:03.440 --> 00:18:07.559 HBB testing, it didn't even come back to me that time, So the 276 00:18:07.640 --> 00:18:11.000 received sensitivity is not as good, and it's picking up a lot of noise 277 00:18:11.119 --> 00:18:14.920 outside noise. I was walking around the house and it would break the squelch 278 00:18:15.000 --> 00:18:19.079 every now and then from just walking around picking up RFI from various sources, 279 00:18:19.119 --> 00:18:22.839 which I have some RIFI in my house, But if I use my Yazu 280 00:18:23.160 --> 00:18:27.240 icon kinwood or my any tone hts out here in the shack, I don't 281 00:18:27.279 --> 00:18:30.279 really notice any of that. Some of the lower end hts, the lower 282 00:18:30.519 --> 00:18:33.759 end fangs or the lower end tied radios or something like that. Some of 283 00:18:33.799 --> 00:18:40.000 those kind of squawk every now and then because they have not as good of 284 00:18:40.240 --> 00:18:47.000 what's called de sense rejection or harmonics rejection on their receiver. And that's where 285 00:18:47.039 --> 00:18:49.799 you're going to find a top notch radio in a moltorolok. Granted, most 286 00:18:49.799 --> 00:18:55.000 people don't want to pay several thousand dollars for a five to ten watt handheld 287 00:18:55.119 --> 00:18:56.839 radio. I don't blame you. I don't own an APEX. If I 288 00:18:56.880 --> 00:18:59.960 ever find one for a really good price, I might pick one up, 289 00:19:00.279 --> 00:19:03.240 but I've never bought one because they're really expensive. They're good radios, some 290 00:19:03.440 --> 00:19:08.480 of the best radios as far as clean signal, receiver sensitivity and distance, 291 00:19:08.880 --> 00:19:12.400 because you can talk farther if you can hear farther, so you transmit a 292 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:18.359 cleaner signal farther and you receive a cleaner signal because of the sensitivity of these 293 00:19:18.440 --> 00:19:21.240 radios. But you know, for a hundred bucks, that's not bad. 294 00:19:21.480 --> 00:19:25.039 I might have this on my belt walking around Daytonham Vention, which is next 295 00:19:25.119 --> 00:19:27.200 week at the time of this recording. This video won't post beforehand vention. 296 00:19:27.400 --> 00:19:30.599 But if you see this and you're curious about it, put a comment below 297 00:19:30.680 --> 00:19:33.440 let me know that you came up to me and says what is that? 298 00:19:33.640 --> 00:19:36.160 I don't even know what that is. Thanks for watching today, Guys seventy three