1 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:21,440 What is up, fellow Thermo Nuguire efforts. I am a thoroughly exhausted and 2 00:00:21,519 --> 00:00:24,800 run down to him for that, like coming at you with a solo mail 3 00:00:24,839 --> 00:00:27,879 bag. Have a handful of questions, a bunch of questions, really great 4 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,679 questions that we're going to get to in a second. But let's start off 5 00:00:31,719 --> 00:00:34,600 with one. The user reminders. Subscribe to us, YouTube, Spotify, 6 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,840 Apple, wherever you get your podcasts, cross all platforms. If you've done 7 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,719 those things, join our discord. The link to that is in the podcast 8 00:00:41,759 --> 00:00:45,200 and YouTube descriptions. 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Normally it 17 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,000 could be they've decided to part ways, but I guess because he was still 18 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:23,200 under contract and given the extension that he had signed their their ticket, I 19 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:26,359 think he was just signed through twenty four twenty five if I wasn't mistaken, 20 00:01:26,439 --> 00:01:30,680 so it had to be a dismissal. Maybe that's why it's phrased that way. 21 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:34,840 I want to make this clear because I feel like Bucks fans gave me 22 00:01:34,879 --> 00:01:38,599 pushback on Twitter, and I would like them to watch this segment or listen 23 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:44,239 to it in its entirety. I don't necessarily understand why you make this move, 24 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:47,480 that it was just time for a change. You only reached the Eastern 25 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,480 Conference finals twice in five years, you did win one championship, but you 26 00:01:51,519 --> 00:01:53,799 have the best player in the NBA, no worse than the second or third 27 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,400 best player in the NBA. I understand why you make this move. I 28 00:01:57,439 --> 00:02:02,319 also understand one the timing is just poor. His brother passed away right before 29 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:07,519 Game one due to he died in a car accident or died from complications from 30 00:02:07,519 --> 00:02:10,280 the car accident. The optics of that make it terrible, which would lead 31 00:02:10,319 --> 00:02:15,719 me to believe that the Bucks, even though they're supposed to have an extensive 32 00:02:15,759 --> 00:02:19,400 search, per woach, they have their guy in mind. Maybe it's Nick 33 00:02:19,479 --> 00:02:23,479 Nurse, maybe it's someone else, But this doesn't feel like a move you 34 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:29,639 make now unless you know who you want to replace Buddenholzer. And I think 35 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:34,360 it's fine to say that this team needed fresh perspective. Yes, coach Bud 36 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:38,039 did a good job of kind of overhauling the culture there, but maybe you 37 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,719 believe that he's reached his peak with this roster that they just need that. 38 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:44,680 I hate saying that they've lost the locker room, and the Bucks didn't seem 39 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:46,240 like a team where he lost the locker room, But maybe you just wanted 40 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:51,080 that new fresh voice in there, maybe someone who is going to branch out 41 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,759 and try a little bit more creative stuff on offense. I think all of 42 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:59,080 that is fine. My main I wouldn't even call it issue or even a 43 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,639 qualm here is just and I just don't agree with the decision or I think 44 00:03:02,719 --> 00:03:07,960 that let's crazy this way, But it is essentially the fall guy because the 45 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,840 roster I believe, was more so the problem, and the Bucks have very 46 00:03:10,879 --> 00:03:15,759 few other ways to shake up the franchise. Right now, you're heading into 47 00:03:15,759 --> 00:03:20,360 an off season where depending on what you have to pay. Brook Lopez going 48 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,120 to be a free agent, Chris Milton has that player option, so maybe 49 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:24,560 he ends up on the books for less. But if he does just pick 50 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:28,400 up that player option, he's on the books for a crap ton of money. 51 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:30,520 If he signs a new deal, he's still probably on the books for 52 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:35,159 a crap ton of money overall. And the new CBA rules make it not 53 00:03:35,199 --> 00:03:39,039 just prohibitive, but impossible to make certain changes. If you are about seventeen 54 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:44,000 and a half million dollars over the luxury tax apron, the Bucks, if 55 00:03:44,039 --> 00:03:47,000 they keep this roster firmly intact, are going to be there. That means 56 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:52,719 no minimli. That means that they can't trade a draft pick that's seven years 57 00:03:52,719 --> 00:03:54,360 out. They could still trade a draft pick. They could trade two twenty 58 00:03:54,439 --> 00:04:00,520 nine. And the other thing here is that you can't find in this fascinating 59 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:05,759 and incredibly limiting you can't decrease your salaries as part of an aggregate trade. 60 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,400 Let's just say they were willing to trade. Just throw numbers out here, 61 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:14,879 twenty five million dollars in salary from two players for one seventeen million dollars player. 62 00:04:15,199 --> 00:04:18,120 You can't do that apparently, so that restricts them even further. And 63 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,480 there are just some other restrictions in there, but those are really just the 64 00:04:20,519 --> 00:04:25,160 big ones. What are they supposed to do? What changes are they supposed 65 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:28,240 to make? You're almost locked into saying, hey, will Joe Angeles come 66 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:30,800 back for one hundred and twenty percent of his salary this year non bird rights? 67 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:38,399 Maybe you know Jay Crowder didn't really play and his exit interview was either 68 00:04:38,439 --> 00:04:41,920 illuminating and uncomfortable. You have his bird rights, are willing to pay him 69 00:04:41,959 --> 00:04:44,079 enough that he sticks around, and you promise a bigger role with a new 70 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,519 coach. There's very few things that you can do with this roster. Yes, 71 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,720 you could still go ahead and make moves, but your assets are what 72 00:04:51,759 --> 00:04:57,360 does mar John Bochamp twenty twenty nine first round pick and then salary get you? 73 00:04:57,439 --> 00:05:00,319 Who does that get you? And the names out there, Like we've 74 00:05:00,319 --> 00:05:01,959 been through this exercise in the podcast before, I don't know if it's someone 75 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,279 who's going to address their biggest issue, which I would argue is they either 76 00:05:05,319 --> 00:05:10,360 need kind of a change up at point of attack offense or they just need 77 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,399 wing depth and maybe a little bit in the form of point of attack defense, 78 00:05:13,399 --> 00:05:15,560 where like they struggled there in the playoffs at points, even while having 79 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:21,040 Drew Holiday on the roster. I don't know how they're going to address all 80 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:26,040 of that. But you look at this roster and Jason Maples for Anyone host 81 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,519 Temple of Hoop podcast, he was on top of this from the beginning of 82 00:05:29,519 --> 00:05:30,600 the season. I picked the Bucks to come out of the East at the 83 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,519 beginning of the season and losing the NBA Finals, but I did pick them 84 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:38,600 to come out of the East. I underestimated. I was concerned about their 85 00:05:38,639 --> 00:05:43,079 wing depth specifically, and I even underestimated it. Like there's just not a 86 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:46,639 ton of athleticism outside of Jannis on this roster. Chris Middleton, after coming 87 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,319 back from the second injury, looked pretty slow defensively, even when he had 88 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:53,680 like really bright moments of offense, and it just makes you wonder what's the 89 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:58,199 path forward. Drew Holiday is thirty two, Brook Lopez is thirty five. 90 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,360 Jannis just in absolutely at his prime, so that's why you're not worried about 91 00:06:02,439 --> 00:06:06,839 him. But like the rest of the roster, Drew going at age thirty 92 00:06:06,959 --> 00:06:11,800 three season next year, so it'll be age thirty sixth season for brook Lopez. 93 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,800 No, it'll be age thirty five for brook Lopez. Excuse me, 94 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:18,920 he turned thirty five after February of this year. Then you have even like 95 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:23,600 even Chris Middleton, it'll be his age thirty two season. Pat Connaughton, 96 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:25,680 whose role was up and down this year, that's going to be his age 97 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:29,959 thirty one season. You're not an especially young team. You're very asset light, 98 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,879 and now you can't even unless you cut salary elsewhere, like maybe you're 99 00:06:32,879 --> 00:06:36,000 able to open up flexibility under the aprin You're not even gonna have the mini 100 00:06:36,120 --> 00:06:42,120 mL at your disposal. I'm not saying this is not my way of saying 101 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:46,839 that Bud is perfect. He wasn't. I think there are a lot of 102 00:06:46,879 --> 00:06:48,680 decisions that you could question in the playoffs, the uses of the timeout in 103 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:54,879 the final game against timeouts plural or non use of the timeouts against Miami for 104 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:57,519 sure, not going to Jay crowd or more continuing to lean too much, 105 00:06:57,519 --> 00:07:00,959 maybe on Wesley Matthews. I just don't know when you look at some of 106 00:07:00,959 --> 00:07:05,199 the contexts over the past two years since they've won their title. Chris Middleton 107 00:07:05,439 --> 00:07:11,360 out during the postseason last year, Jannis misses the by the way, Chris 108 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:15,160 Milton is a huge chunk of this season, and the Bucks still just finished 109 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:19,439 with the NBA's best records. That's incredible still, and I know that the 110 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:25,160 postseason is all that matters. But again, misses a chunk of Game one 111 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,800 and then games two and three against Miami because of a back issue. He 112 00:07:27,839 --> 00:07:30,720 did not look like Jannie himself when he was back. And the other thing 113 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:40,319 here that you can't attribute to Bud is that Jannie regressed as a jump shooter, 114 00:07:40,399 --> 00:07:43,560 and we know that that's never been his game. But like the counters 115 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:46,680 just weren't there like they have been the previous two years. The mid range 116 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:47,959 percentage, I believe dropped. I haven't looked at it in a while, 117 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:53,160 but it was just it certainly was not a weapon against Miami. You can't 118 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,319 account You can't attribute all that, excuse me, to the head coach. 119 00:07:56,480 --> 00:08:00,279 And when you're looking at the rest of the personnel, what we're what else 120 00:08:00,319 --> 00:08:01,759 were you supposed to do? What adjustments did you want him to make? 121 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,040 If you're saying it's again you need a fresh voice or that you really believe 122 00:08:05,439 --> 00:08:09,120 and I don't want to hear about Nick nurse. He was kind of inflexible 123 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,160 in Toronto. He did some creative things, but didn't change up the offense 124 00:08:11,279 --> 00:08:16,800 enough to think when you look at this roster and look offense is the problem. 125 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,480 I think because there was a lot of talk about their defense, about 126 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:24,399 the quality of three pointers they were giving up. They this season specifically, 127 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:28,040 when you go back and just kind of look at their ranks throughout the coach 128 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:31,639 bud Era is they limited looks at the rim, and then their bag was, 129 00:08:31,799 --> 00:08:35,519 Hey, we're gonna have to just conceive three pointers. That's just something 130 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,960 that's going to be caked in to this. So you know, twenty eighteen 131 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:43,799 nineteen they were thirtieth and opponent three point in tenth three. So the Sheriff 132 00:08:43,879 --> 00:08:46,960 shots coming from beyond the arc. The year twenty they were twenty eight two. 133 00:08:48,279 --> 00:08:50,399 Twenty one, they're twenty sixth. Last season they're twenty ninth. This 134 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:54,639 year they were fifth while also being third in the Shriff opponent shots coming at 135 00:08:54,639 --> 00:08:58,480 the rim. They found a way and they I think they were definitely more 136 00:08:58,519 --> 00:09:03,240 inventive defensively, like not even just this year, but when you look at 137 00:09:03,279 --> 00:09:07,600 sord of the title here since then, they've been willing to try more things 138 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:11,399 when you just watch them, and this year specifically, I think it was 139 00:09:11,799 --> 00:09:18,559 super effective for their defense. Overall, Miami caught fire in the playoffs from 140 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:20,879 three, which is something they really hadn't done all season. They did see 141 00:09:20,879 --> 00:09:24,279 an uptick in shooting from you know, Max Strus and company after the All 142 00:09:24,279 --> 00:09:26,039 Star break, a little bit after the All Star break anyway, like they 143 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:33,360 weren't this capslock Italics tech Italics bold text hot shooting team. They became one 144 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,039 against the Bucks, and a lot of it was contested three pointers. Like 145 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:39,279 they shot I can't even remember the number. I'll try and look it up 146 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:46,159 now, but they shot like an astronomical percentage on contested three pointers, so 147 00:09:46,279 --> 00:09:50,799 where a defender is going to be at least at least he's met within two 148 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,960 to four feet of your person, like Miami even now, like dating into 149 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,080 the nixt series, their fourth an effective field goal percentage on heavily contested jumpers. 150 00:09:58,159 --> 00:10:01,919 And they're shooting for the playoffs, and much of this is you know, 151 00:10:01,159 --> 00:10:05,919 in the Milwaukee Buck series there are forty three point six percent on contested 152 00:10:07,039 --> 00:10:11,080 threes. That's the second best market in the league among playoff teams. Atlanta 153 00:10:11,159 --> 00:10:16,879 was actually first through their through their six game set against Boston, like those 154 00:10:16,879 --> 00:10:18,960 are tough shots, and when you look at it, felt like there wasn't 155 00:10:20,080 --> 00:10:24,919 enough offensive variability from the Bucks more so than defense this season specifically, and 156 00:10:24,919 --> 00:10:28,519 I think most Bucks fans would agree. I don't know how you get that 157 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,080 out of this roster because I think jannat Attenta Coupo is the best player in 158 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:35,320 the world. That is just this postseason didn't change anything about that. There 159 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,799 are limitations to his game, doesn't change anything about that. For me. 160 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:39,679 Am I interested in how he ages for a game that's still pride and on 161 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:45,039 these long strides and getting by guys just playing super physical and explosive. Absolutely 162 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:46,559 fascinated by it. But I think he's the greatest player in the world right 163 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:52,080 now. You do have to build out your roster in a very specific fashion 164 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,799 to account for his limitations, though. It's almost like if you put him 165 00:10:56,879 --> 00:10:58,759 on the court with a center who isn't Brook Lopez, or even a floor 166 00:10:58,759 --> 00:11:03,960 spaces big. But brook Lopez is the ideal big to have alongside Yannis as 167 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,159 a rim protector, someone who stretches the floor but can also work from the 168 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,200 outside in and there are very few of those guys in the league, and 169 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:13,840 if you don't care about the rim protection, it opens it up a little 170 00:11:13,879 --> 00:11:18,840 bit where you could say, oh, Zeke Nagy could do that Karl Anthony 171 00:11:18,879 --> 00:11:22,399 Towns if you're able to ge him, which you can't. So I think 172 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:28,360 that matters, and it's if you're not going to have enough either functional shooting 173 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,559 like compmentary shoe where you're having guys like just fly around away from the ball, 174 00:11:31,759 --> 00:11:35,480 or in Drew Holiday's case, where it's he's like seems like if this 175 00:11:35,519 --> 00:11:39,399 is not a statistical anecdote, but he's a killer shot maker during the regular 176 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,320 season, like he can get the step backwork and he can get ridiculous jumpers 177 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:45,919 without fail. It always seems like those shots fall short for him in the 178 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,279 playoffs, not literally fall short, just that some of them are long and 179 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,720 just playing ugly. But they're just not going down to this high eclip. 180 00:11:52,879 --> 00:11:54,279 And that's not to say that you need to go ahead and now let's trade 181 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,159 Drew Holiday. My point is just that there are and it's aside from you 182 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:03,600 honest is that you don't there are limitations, There are strictures within which you 183 00:12:03,639 --> 00:12:07,120 need to work of this roster that I don't think a new head coach is 184 00:12:07,159 --> 00:12:09,200 just going to solve. I'm open to the idea that I'm wrong. I'm 185 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:15,600 not saying this was the incorrect decision. I just truly believe that the Bucks 186 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,720 personnel this year and their roster set up in general. I believe that their 187 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,919 current roster, coupled with all these restrictions that were going to face moving forward, 188 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:30,919 was by far the bigger problem than whatever coach Bud wasn't doing. I 189 00:12:31,000 --> 00:12:35,240 really just don't think there were all these threads that he wasn't pulling at that 190 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:39,399 were there for him to explore. And I think he made mistakes. Did 191 00:12:39,399 --> 00:12:41,480 he cost them this playoff series? No? That these playoff series are not 192 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,919 lost by one or two or three or four or five decisions. The Bucks 193 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:46,840 were in that final game. They were in a three one hole than they 194 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,080 ever should have been in. Is that on Budd? Okay? What else 195 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:54,919 did you want him to do during the You won one game without Jannis where 196 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,600 you didn't have them prepared for Game one. That's been sort of the Bucks 197 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:58,840 m is that, Oh they lost the game one, all right? So 198 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,879 is that on? But he's definitely responsible for their failures. But I just 199 00:13:03,879 --> 00:13:07,799 don't think that he was even close to the biggest problem there. And I'm 200 00:13:07,879 --> 00:13:11,039 open to the idea that I'm wrong. You could hit the YouTube comments with 201 00:13:11,039 --> 00:13:11,879 it, and I hope that Bucks fans at least gave me this, you 202 00:13:11,879 --> 00:13:15,720 know, eleven or twelve minutes that I spent on this to show that I'm 203 00:13:15,759 --> 00:13:18,679 really I'm not. I don't know if this is the right decision. It 204 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,960 doesn't feel right to me, or at least I don't think it addresses the 205 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:24,919 biggest issue, and we won't know until they go through the off season. 206 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,720 Maybe they're able to do something that's a little bit more creative that I don't 207 00:13:26,759 --> 00:13:31,080 see coming. I would bet against it unless it's a core change of Oh, 208 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:33,759 we're looking to move on from Brook Lopez or Chris Middleton or even Drew 209 00:13:33,799 --> 00:13:37,879 Holiday. I don't know that they're going to stumble into anything on the free 210 00:13:37,879 --> 00:13:41,679 agent market, or if Joe Angels comes back and he's gonna be playing like 211 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:46,440 Gangbusters or Marjon bow Champ picked Hits next year. Excuse me. They're just 212 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:48,840 so limited in what they can do, and I think that's the bigger problem 213 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:54,879 in looking at how flawed this roster was from inoffensive perspective, and I will 214 00:13:54,919 --> 00:14:00,519 also say it's a it's a little hypocritical to celebrate what Janis said after Game 215 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:03,879 five's loss to Miami about how this season wasn't a failure and then you fire 216 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,120 Bud because it was a failure in your eyes. I just if we're gonna 217 00:14:09,159 --> 00:14:11,279 I think what Janni said, by the way, on the spot, just 218 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:13,759 to articulate that the way that he did is my coach brand. He's mentioned 219 00:14:13,799 --> 00:14:16,840 his second fucking language, no less, but just on the spot, having 220 00:14:16,879 --> 00:14:20,159 that answer incredible. I didn't agree with every aspect of it, but it 221 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:24,240 was an incredible answer. He was lauded for it. The discourse after it 222 00:14:24,279 --> 00:14:28,200 was fucking terrible, not from Yannis, just from everybody who was analyzing it, 223 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:31,399 maybe including this podcast. Who knows, but that was fucking awful. 224 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,480 But to say that this season wasn't a failure, and I understood what he 225 00:14:35,519 --> 00:14:37,679 was saying. I think it was. If you don't want to call it 226 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,600 a failure, it was a disappointment, and fans are clearly agreeing if you 227 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:43,080 want coach but to go. But you can't laud Jannis for framing the season 228 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:46,840 in those terms. Then get rid of your title winning head coach who like, 229 00:14:46,879 --> 00:14:50,440 okay, yeah, only two Eastern Conference Finals appearances in five years, 230 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:54,559 Like they've run into bears, They've run into injuries like these have been. 231 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:58,519 Like this is to say that it's a like you came up short, especially 232 00:14:58,559 --> 00:15:01,840 when you look at like the earlier versions of the roster that they had been 233 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:07,480 working with. I just don't think the resume is unimpressive. I think the 234 00:15:07,519 --> 00:15:13,919 past two postseasons specifically were eminently excusable. So that's why this just doesn't sit 235 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,039 right with me. I'm very interest to see who they replace him with. 236 00:15:16,639 --> 00:15:20,559 I would bet that it's going to be a bigger name, like not in 237 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:22,960 the realm of like a Yeah, I could see the Lakers kind of went 238 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:28,360 this route when they poached Darvin Hamm from Milwaukee. Ironically, I'd be fairly 239 00:15:28,399 --> 00:15:31,679 shocked if it's a first time head coach, and i'd be fairly shocked if 240 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:35,919 it's someone who like so Kenny acts. I think it would be an interesting 241 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,080 fit, but he's known more for his player development than even though he kind 242 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:43,720 of does the creative stuff offensively, so I'd be surprised with someone like that. 243 00:15:43,879 --> 00:15:46,960 Nick Nurse has been the obvious name linked. I don't know that I 244 00:15:46,039 --> 00:15:50,679 love him for this team. He'll certainly be willing to play certain guys more 245 00:15:50,679 --> 00:15:52,399 minutes than Coach Blood would have. That was he wasn't afraid to do that 246 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,519 in Toronto. But he just Toronto supposed to have all these great guys in 247 00:15:56,519 --> 00:16:00,399 the roster and they weren't great this season, and the culture apparently it wasn't 248 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,679 great there. So I don't know why you would all of a sudden want 249 00:16:03,279 --> 00:16:04,960 Nick Nurse. There there are other names that are out there. I will 250 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,879 be very interesting to see who they lean towards next of what names end up 251 00:16:08,879 --> 00:16:11,840 being linked to this. I will just two things I'll just reiterate to close 252 00:16:11,879 --> 00:16:17,440 this out. You make this decision when you know who you want after him, 253 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,519 and so that's why I'm so curious to who they pick. And too, 254 00:16:21,559 --> 00:16:23,039 I'm just not sure if it's the right decision. And then three, 255 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,399 I really don't think it addresses the bigger issue. And so maybe we see 256 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,559 shakeups on the roster and then that'll clue me in where it's like, Okay, 257 00:16:29,559 --> 00:16:32,200 well this is more of a total overhaul, and that's the route that 258 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:36,120 they wanted to go, that's enough about the bucks though, So I went 259 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:37,639 from saying I was going to do ten minutes and make this super short to 260 00:16:37,759 --> 00:16:41,240 doing over fifteen minutes on the bucks. How about that, let's cannonball, 261 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:47,039 belly flop, pencil dive, nose dive, jack knife into this mail back. 262 00:16:47,559 --> 00:16:49,320 We'll begin with you know, we were just talking about midlevel exceptions, 263 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:52,840 so let's kind of stick with it from walled of odds. Who are the 264 00:16:52,879 --> 00:16:56,879 best mid level of signings over the past mini mid level exciting excuse me, 265 00:16:56,919 --> 00:17:00,200 over the best half decade. Ruth Brown have to be up there. So 266 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:04,799 I don't know if I was perfect in my research on this, but I 267 00:17:04,799 --> 00:17:07,319 did go back the half decade to look at some of the signings that stood 268 00:17:07,319 --> 00:17:11,960 out to me. Bruce Brown might just be the answer, because the other 269 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:18,279 best ones that I came up with the mini mid level specifically was the Pelicans 270 00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:22,839 use part of their minimily to sign Herb and Alvarado in two and twenty one. 271 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:23,759 I mean that might have been part of their middle They used part of 272 00:17:23,759 --> 00:17:29,079 their regular mid level exception to sign Herb, Jones and Alvarado first time. 273 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,359 First time was in the NBA. I just find that that's wild good value. 274 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,559 By the way, it doesn't qualify with this question. Denver used part 275 00:17:34,559 --> 00:17:37,240 of its mid level to sign Jared Vanderbilt in two and eighteen, that was 276 00:17:37,279 --> 00:17:44,079 his rookie season. Should that qualify Vanderbilt? Also, wasn't this stud necessarily 277 00:17:44,079 --> 00:17:45,279 well he was in Denver. You always saw the flashes, but it wasn't 278 00:17:45,559 --> 00:17:49,920 right away. The only thing I think that the only signings plural that I 279 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:55,119 think rival what Denver's getting out of Brown right now, who really shifted the 280 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,279 game defensively for them in Game two against Phoenix, and so you could talk 281 00:17:57,319 --> 00:18:00,640 about how we kind of regressed offensively, wasn't as great defensively over the latter 282 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:07,319 half the season. He's giving them big minutes in the playoffs. But the 283 00:18:07,319 --> 00:18:10,440 only signings I think that rivals over the last half decade, I would say 284 00:18:10,519 --> 00:18:14,359 the Blazers when they used and it was part of their minimle. I don't 285 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:18,200 even think they used all of their miniml. It was in twenty and eighteen. 286 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,599 They got Gary Trent Jr. Who was a rookie at the time, 287 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,200 and Seth Curry who ended up being a useful player for them. So I 288 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:27,359 think that's the only one because it came in dual players. I don't think 289 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,680 any one of them alone would stand the test of what Bruce Brown has done. 290 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:36,079 Maybe them combine, I will say, and this doesn't qualify for it, 291 00:18:36,279 --> 00:18:41,839 but the Bucks in two thousand and eighteen, I think it was getting 292 00:18:41,839 --> 00:18:45,640 brook Lopez for the biannual exception. That first year in Milwaukee, he made 293 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,279 three point four million dollars. That was the bi annual exception that has to 294 00:18:48,279 --> 00:18:53,440 be if anyone does this research, the greatest bi annual exception signing of all 295 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,720 time. Look at what he turned into second and defensive Player of the Year, 296 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:03,279 floor stretching center and like someone who can also generate offense for you if 297 00:19:03,279 --> 00:19:06,720 he needs to attack from the outside in or work from the post, or 298 00:19:06,759 --> 00:19:10,759 just move away from the ball and slip through defenses and finish at the basket 299 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,640 like on Catches. Has to be the greatest finanal exeptional. I still thin. 300 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,240 Brook Lopez is one of the most underappreciated players in the NBA, and 301 00:19:18,319 --> 00:19:22,319 his career trajectory is just absolutely incredible, going from this defensive liability, like 302 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:26,680 he blocks some shots, but he's mostly a defensive liability. Didn't really play 303 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:29,480 on the perimeter all that much too. Oh, he stretches the floor, 304 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:32,480 moves off the ball, isn't just posting up and he's just Yeah, he's 305 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,160 just a defensive Player of the Year candidate, if not close to a favorite 306 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,640 until they actually announced the results. So yes, I do think well of 307 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:41,920 OZ that it's Bruce Brown is the answer. But if you want to the 308 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:47,319 GT Jay, Gary turn Junior and Seth Curry signed joint signings, I think 309 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,920 are the only ones that give Bruce Brown run for the money. If I 310 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:53,079 missed anyone, you know, shout out if you really high on Dennis Shrewder 311 00:19:53,079 --> 00:19:57,599 in Boston for some reason I don't know, please let me know. Next 312 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:03,440 question comes from Oh. This question from Austin is fascinating. Who would you 313 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,960 say are the top reclamation projects a team should go after young high pick who 314 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,960 hasn't quite lived up to expectations but still showed some flashes promise, and which 315 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:17,440 teams should go after those players like a cool Patrick Williams and topping. So 316 00:20:17,519 --> 00:20:22,200 I think we are in fundamental disagreement of what would constitute a reclamation project. 317 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:26,519 I think it's of someone who more so like a like in Ruce mon Garuba 318 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,720 to where they're just not getting playing time in Houston or Kyra Lewis in New 319 00:20:30,839 --> 00:20:33,240 Orleans. So those are the names I kind of focused on for this. 320 00:20:33,279 --> 00:20:37,279 If you want to go the Obe top and patri Williams, Okoro routes and 321 00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:41,240 so I want to answer your question if you're for I'll start with Isaac Okoro 322 00:20:41,599 --> 00:20:44,960 has shown you can hit threes in the regular season, not so much the 323 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,759 playoffs. If you give him space, which Cleveland or not. I do 324 00:20:47,799 --> 00:20:49,759 think he is utility as a cutter or sort of like the Bruce Brown roll 325 00:20:49,839 --> 00:20:53,000 on the ball with a little bit less playmaking. I would like him in 326 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,960 Utah would be fun to see. They create all the space in the world 327 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:00,200 and they just need wings in general or Sack Gremento what they you know, 328 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,160 they don't have capslock shooters on their team, but they generate enough space because 329 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,160 of where Sabonis gets the ball a lot of the time, and just they 330 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:11,759 play at a high speed, and Fox and Herder and Monk and if Barnes 331 00:21:11,799 --> 00:21:14,559 is still gonna be there, and Keegan Murray of court of course, they're 332 00:21:14,599 --> 00:21:18,480 all passible to really good shooters. For Patrick Williams, I mean, pick 333 00:21:18,519 --> 00:21:22,000 a team if you like. I like Utah, sure, but I think 334 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:25,680 the two of my favorites would be Indiana, provided that they're still kind of 335 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,680 doing this if you want to call it a middle build like Washington does, 336 00:21:27,839 --> 00:21:32,839 where they're at least going to invest time in him rather than Okay, we 337 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,680 have this high draft pick this year plus two others and we're gonna spend our 338 00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,480 caps space and trying to be really good next season. But I would like 339 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,359 to see him Indiana and then San Antonio would be super fun. They just 340 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,279 kind of had like all these wingish like bigger combo forward type, not bigger, 341 00:21:45,319 --> 00:21:52,079 but combo foward types and Fassel and Jeremy Sown and Kelton Johnson. Excuse 342 00:21:52,079 --> 00:21:53,079 me, I don't know why I forgot about him and they're gonna add someone. 343 00:21:53,079 --> 00:21:56,400 Maybe it's when by through the draft and let's just throw Patrick Williams in 344 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,160 there and let him cook. But there are so many teams that you could 345 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,039 argue for any team that's I'm trying to win now and guarantee him playing time 346 00:22:02,079 --> 00:22:06,079 or still Patrick Williams on there. So the other names that I have, 347 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,559 and these are just my favorite, oh Obi top and excuse me, Indiana 348 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:14,440 playing next to Miles Turner. I like that he kind of gives you both 349 00:22:14,519 --> 00:22:17,680 of what I not defensively, I want to make that clear, but both 350 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,000 of what Isaiah Jackson and Jalon Smith give you. Like just like sort of 351 00:22:21,039 --> 00:22:26,200 combines those two players into one. Although Isaiah Jackson might be at least more 352 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,400 confident with the ball in his hands and trying to turn corners there still but 353 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,920 Obi Top in Indiana or Oklahoma City, imagine next to chet home Grin. 354 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:36,799 I would love that. And I think that they have the defensive infrastructure to 355 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,720 where they can play someone who's a pure four. Maybe they would even give 356 00:22:38,799 --> 00:22:41,480 him some run at the five. They weren't afraid to play super small, 357 00:22:41,559 --> 00:22:45,559 just kind of put him in a super charge Dario Shart's role, or you 358 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,759 trust him to be like less of a bully with the ball in his hands, 359 00:22:47,799 --> 00:22:48,960 but he can still stretch, stretch the floor, and he's gonna run 360 00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:52,680 it faster than Charge did. But so I have how many names that I 361 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,839 listened. I have five guys that I have as reclamation projects or I think 362 00:22:56,839 --> 00:23:02,160 are buried on the bench. And it's the first one is Zeke Naji in 363 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:06,000 Denver. Just remember the discord is coming out of training camp that he was 364 00:23:06,039 --> 00:23:07,559 due for break like this was coming out of Denver, that they thought he 365 00:23:07,599 --> 00:23:11,079 was gonna play this huge role. He did not this year, and he 366 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:12,759 wasn't like super banged up. I think he dealt with an injury towards the 367 00:23:12,839 --> 00:23:17,799 latter third or the middle of the season, but it was just they never 368 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:19,640 used him and they need someone who can rebound and with more size for their 369 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:23,119 backup five spot. I get it. Just a wild turn of events to 370 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,160 me though, based off how much they were really building him up leading into 371 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,519 the season. Oklahma said he would be the pick for me. I don't 372 00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:33,960 know. They liked to play small now doesn't hurt they're rebounding. I think 373 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,680 having Giddy and Shay there and if you're gonna play him with chet Home Grinna, 374 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,720 I think you would get playing time there. Ousman Gruba, my boy, 375 00:23:40,799 --> 00:23:41,839 you all know I love me some Mousmon Gruba. I think towards the 376 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,319 end of the season in Houston he showed he could stay on the court a 377 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,799 little bit offensively. Put him in Utah. Please put him in Utah. 378 00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:52,359 You're not gonna play him with Walker Kestler. I don't think, but maybe 379 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:53,440 you could. I mean, you're gonna have three other shooters on the court 380 00:23:53,519 --> 00:23:56,960 at once. But just put him in Utah small ball five that shit and 381 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,480 it surround him with four shooters. Just let me see it. Put him 382 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,759 in Utah. Kyra Lewis Jr. Coming up to acl injury. His speed 383 00:24:03,839 --> 00:24:07,599 looks like it's back. You can you can really get downhill, get bad 384 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,799 guys, get to the basket. Brooklyn would be fun because they're gonna space 385 00:24:10,799 --> 00:24:14,480 the floor a ton anyway, And Spencer Dinwi and mcaal Bridges are not like 386 00:24:14,599 --> 00:24:17,720 pure rim pressure, and Patty Mills certainly is impure rim pressure. Nor is 387 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:22,839 cam Thomas. Nobody on that roster as a like a wing or a or 388 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,240 a guard is pure rim pressure. Kyra Lewis, They would be fun now 389 00:24:26,319 --> 00:24:30,359 Kai Flynn just throw him to Dallas probably, I mean maybe, but Dallas 390 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:32,599 has to commit to playing him. I think that they need someone who can 391 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:37,079 be as just like disruptive as he can defensively, and then maybe he will 392 00:24:37,319 --> 00:24:41,160 give you within that spacing they have there in the half court during the non 393 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,359 Luca minutes, he could give you some secondary ball handling. So and like 394 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,599 if Kyrie is still there. I think those two could play together. I 395 00:24:47,599 --> 00:24:52,680 don't necessarily love the fit with Luca though Chumo kk is the other one I 396 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:56,359 have, and injuries have derailed his like availability in Orlando more than anything else. 397 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,559 But I just kind of feel like with the roster they're building and how 398 00:24:59,559 --> 00:25:03,359 close they are already, I don't know if if that's like the spot for 399 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,720 him anymore. I have Indiana again here. I'm just throwing all the wings 400 00:25:06,799 --> 00:25:10,160 or commo forwards to Indiana again. That's prideed on the fact I look and 401 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,519 I think there's something there, Like he's showing offensive flashes, he's showing defensive 402 00:25:12,559 --> 00:25:15,240 flashes. If he could stay healthy, let's just try and give him some 403 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:18,039 run there. I think you could also make the case, if you really 404 00:25:18,079 --> 00:25:23,039 wanted to, that Charlotte might be interesting there. I could even say Detroit 405 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,039 following that's a deep Bay trade and then being so wing light. I just 406 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:30,720 don't with Boyan mcdonovitch there, and even Alec Burks even they play different positions, 407 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,559 but they're trying to go with dual bigs and Isaiah Stewart's there, James 408 00:25:33,559 --> 00:25:38,039 Wiseman and Jalen durn there I wouldn't be confident in their ability to play him 409 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,720 enough, and you could, of course thrown him on the Jazz. I'll 410 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,559 throw anyway to the Jazz right there. Fun question. I don't know if 411 00:25:45,559 --> 00:25:48,279 anyone else has any reclamation projects that they'd like to talk about that might be 412 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,000 worth its own pot in the off seasons. I try to plan for content 413 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,759 there. I'm actually not planning for off season content at the moment, if 414 00:25:52,759 --> 00:25:56,480 anyone cares. That's not even I'm trying to get. I'm trying to survive 415 00:25:56,519 --> 00:26:00,480 the playoffs and then the draft in free agency at the moment. The next 416 00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:07,599 question comes from Yokich Joster. Okay, this is a good one. How 417 00:26:07,599 --> 00:26:12,359 many wins would the two thousand and seventeen Warriors get with twenty twenty three Cavan 418 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:18,680 Looney on the roster? I would I think that over the course of an 419 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:22,640 eighty two game regular season they would get eighty three wins. That's what they 420 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,480 would get with him. I mean, man, that team would be this 421 00:26:26,799 --> 00:26:30,519 version of Cavan Looney on that team. I also forget, like Cavan money 422 00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:33,920 is so ingrained into the Warriors DNA for me, like I just kind of 423 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:40,480 assume he's been there for like in this high volume roll for the entire time. 424 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,079 And look, he's been on the team since two thousand and fifteen and 425 00:26:42,079 --> 00:26:45,759 two thousand and sixteen, so he comes after their first title. But like, 426 00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:48,119 I guess I haven't liked that. I like I'm confusing him for Festus 427 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,759 or whatever. But he only played I think he was under nine minutes or 428 00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:56,200 something per game in that two thousand and sixteen two thousand and seventeen season. 429 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,680 Kevin Durant, of course we know, is on that team. They won 430 00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:04,039 sixty seven games, but again Looney didn't have this huge role. Also did 431 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,400 he have a huge role that the year after, Like he kind of creaked 432 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,240 in the double digit minutes. But even the two thousand and seventeen and eighteen 433 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,279 team, which was also terrifying, although maybe more prone to just like not 434 00:27:14,319 --> 00:27:15,279 flipping the off switch, but we're just kind of like, all right, 435 00:27:15,319 --> 00:27:18,480 we're gonna repeat, and that's how it's done. They only won fifty eight 436 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,240 games that two thousand and seventy Warriors team that wins Like with this version of 437 00:27:22,319 --> 00:27:26,359 Kavan Looney, I mean, who is I'll actually need to look at this 438 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:30,359 who I'm trying to remember who their second most you big was that year you 439 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,039 have a Zaza. So this Looney instead of Zaza, you don't even lose 440 00:27:33,079 --> 00:27:37,000 any playmaking. You definitely add better defense. Yeah, that Warrior's team is 441 00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:42,720 winning. They're winning at least seventy they're winning, right because they won sixty 442 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,640 seven? Is he guys, he's gonna be worth another seven wins? They're 443 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,000 at seventy four, So they break the seventy three and nine record after one 444 00:27:49,079 --> 00:27:52,480 season. After breaking hitting seventy three and nine, they go seventy four and 445 00:27:52,519 --> 00:27:56,880 eight. That's a that's a fascinating hypothetical to think about. The next question 446 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,920 that comes from, oh, we have two Ki Irving related questions here, 447 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:07,160 so so get ready. It's Alan Kyrie Irving sign and trade for Rudy Gobert, 448 00:28:07,599 --> 00:28:14,160 who says, no, everybody, I think. But more seriously, 449 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,000 and I'm going to throw out the fact that Dallas might run into some hard 450 00:28:18,039 --> 00:28:23,160 gap issues because if they're you have to stay under the hard gap. If 451 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,200 you're with the hardcap, Wow, you have to stay under the luxury tax 452 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,359 apron if you're going to acquire someone via sign and trade, which, oh, 453 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,720 the Mavericks won't have an issue Rudy Gobert is already under a contract, 454 00:28:32,839 --> 00:28:36,160 and Minnesota actually has plenty of flexibility. I actually like the idea of Kyrie 455 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:41,240 in Minnesota functionally, emotionally, personally, off the court, whatever. But 456 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,480 Rudy Gobert, a little younger than Kyrie, still turns thirty one next month, 457 00:28:45,519 --> 00:28:48,480 oh to one hundred and thirty one point five million dollars over the next 458 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,920 three years. I just doesn't give you enough like dynamics on offense, and 459 00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:56,759 he will help you defensively, but he also kind of struggled in Minnesota this 460 00:28:56,799 --> 00:29:00,599 year, not defensively as much, but there was slippage there as a rim 461 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,279 protector. Does it change when he's not spending so much time with like kat 462 00:29:04,319 --> 00:29:07,680 wasn't even there for most of the season, So does it change like in 463 00:29:07,799 --> 00:29:11,240 an environment that maybe they're looking at they are looking to slow things down a 464 00:29:11,319 --> 00:29:15,039 little bit more than a team that's run by Anthony Edwards, would I just 465 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,400 I don't love it for Dallas actually, And then I think with Minnesota, 466 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,839 the problem is I think the value proposition might be worth the risk just to 467 00:29:21,839 --> 00:29:25,440 get out from Rudy Gobert's contract, especially if Kyrie is only getting like two 468 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:30,640 or three guarantee years himself. What is your defense become with Kat? And 469 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,599 I mean Anthy Edwards might be all defense one day. Definitely made improvement there, 470 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:37,400 but you have Kat and Kyrie. What does that mean for Mike Conley 471 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,839 there as well? You're making subsequent moves. You have Jade McDaniels. I 472 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:45,519 just question whether the defense, especially on the interior, you would really have 473 00:29:45,519 --> 00:29:48,279 to trust nas Read that would open up more minutes for him. But a 474 00:29:48,359 --> 00:29:51,720 karn Anthy Towns plus whoever from court, even if it's Kyle Anderson and Jane 475 00:29:51,759 --> 00:29:55,519 McDaniels on the court with him, I don't love it for either side. 476 00:29:56,400 --> 00:30:03,839 The next Kyrie or in question comes from Bower three. They say, should 477 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,559 the Bucks consider a drew for Kyrie swap? I say absolutely not, but 478 00:30:06,599 --> 00:30:10,519 I could see them thinking they need more offense. We just talked about how 479 00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:12,799 the Bucks need more offense. So I would clearly agree with Bower here. 480 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,079 That being said, and we don't have to worry about this because the Bucks 481 00:30:17,079 --> 00:30:22,599 definitely cannot pull this off. They're not staying under the luxury tax apron if 482 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,039 they if they acquire someone via sign and trade, So we don't even have 483 00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:29,000 to worry about it. I still don't know that I love it for them, 484 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:30,559 because I do think that they kind of struggled with ball containment on the 485 00:30:30,599 --> 00:30:33,960 perimeter, and so now you're gonna take your best perimeter stop or get rid 486 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,119 of him and replace him with Kyrie. So that really juices up your offense, 487 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,559 but it compromises your defense. Maybe you believe that, I mean even 488 00:30:41,599 --> 00:30:45,160 just bringing back Jay Crowder and having Javon Carter there, maybe you believe that's 489 00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:51,480 enough. You would need to bring in just some like really like dogged defenders 490 00:30:51,519 --> 00:30:53,359 for this to make sense. Now, while we're on this subject, though, 491 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,599 like what places if he's gonna leave Dallas, what places would make sense 492 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,880 for Kyrie? Irving is a sign and trade destination. I talked about Toronto, 493 00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:04,240 like for in the deal for Og and stuff. Maybe Gary Trent Junior 494 00:31:04,319 --> 00:31:08,519 is coming over or a mega deal for Pascal. But just if the Raptors 495 00:31:08,519 --> 00:31:12,000 like, well, we want to rebuild around Scotti, n Og and Pascal 496 00:31:12,039 --> 00:31:17,079 doesn't make too much sense with Yaka Peartle there. I just I thought about 497 00:31:17,079 --> 00:31:21,000 the heat they could do, like Tyler Hero and Kayla Martin. For Kyrie, 498 00:31:22,279 --> 00:31:25,160 you could work Kyle Lowry in there if you really wanted to, but 499 00:31:25,359 --> 00:31:26,920 you would have to expand it from Dallas's end. Where are they gonna give 500 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:32,200 Tim Hardaway Junior? I just have this written down. The Wizards going after 501 00:31:32,279 --> 00:31:33,960 Kyrie. If he's just going wherever's gonna pay him, doesn't seem like such 502 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:37,759 a Wizard's move to be like, hey, we're gonna fucking sign and trade 503 00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:41,559 for Kyrie. That seems like a Wizard move. Wizards move, But if 504 00:31:41,599 --> 00:31:45,240 you want Kyrie Minnesota, like a Cat for Kyrie trade could make some sense. 505 00:31:45,279 --> 00:31:48,559 I think Towns works next to Luca. You really just have to flesh 506 00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:52,599 out your defensive infrastructure. After that, I will say, I know Bower's 507 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,799 not gonna like this because there was a very spirited discord. Well, actually 508 00:31:56,839 --> 00:32:00,200 we'll get to that. So his thoughts on Towns are I think a little 509 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:06,839 bit too extreme for for but they're not even a little bit too extreme when 510 00:32:06,839 --> 00:32:10,279 we get them. But they're they're super extreme. So this next question I 511 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:15,240 have, I don't have a name associated with it, So what did I 512 00:32:15,279 --> 00:32:20,480 do? It's about Jason Tatum, So let me see if Oh okay, 513 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:25,440 So nicol Cha Kalev asked, excuse me, to clear my need to clear 514 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:30,200 my throat here. Even if even if they win the title, Tatum needs 515 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,400 to seriously work on his ISO game, hot or not, I feel like 516 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,880 the fact that the Celtics have to get too cute at the end of games 517 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,079 is will cost them at least a title. There's a reason why coaches run 518 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:44,240 symbol plays at the end of games, less rooms for catastrophe. So okay, 519 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:49,640 I think Jason Tatum was statistically because if they're one of the least effective 520 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,519 off the double jump shooters this year, he's now picked that up in the 521 00:32:52,559 --> 00:32:55,400 regular seat the postseason. Excuse me, but he does have a nineteen point 522 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,359 five usage rate in the clutch during the playoffs, which is just way too 523 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,720 low. Shooting thirty eight point three percent on drives in the playoffs, again 524 00:33:01,799 --> 00:33:05,400 too low. I think there was the stat out there. Someone points this 525 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,359 out and discord that Marcus mart is taking more shots in the clutch during the 526 00:33:07,359 --> 00:33:10,799 playoffs than him and jell and Brown combined or something, and that's just such 527 00:33:10,839 --> 00:33:13,920 a small sample size at this point, I think this sells a play in 528 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,839 five clutch games. If I'm looking at Jason Tatum improvement, I think he 529 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:20,000 got the room a little bit more this year, got the free from a 530 00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:24,119 line a lot more this year. I think he needs to improve. If 531 00:33:24,119 --> 00:33:27,880 you want to say he needs to improve an ISO score, needs to be 532 00:33:28,039 --> 00:33:31,119 a threat in those situations from more levels. And by that, I do 533 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,599 think it means that he needs to follow through and get to the basket more 534 00:33:34,759 --> 00:33:37,200 in that point. And there's also if you want him to be less deferential 535 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,480 and crunch time. I mean, he had a thirty nine usage rate in 536 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,119 the clutch this year during the regular season. I think as a right now, 537 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,480 he can be your best player and you can win a title, especially 538 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,559 if your team is Boston. If you're looking for him to kind of take 539 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:53,200 over games like a like a Yannis, like a peak Lebron, even like 540 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,279 a KD, I don't think he has that in him at the moment. 541 00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,839 He might have it more defensively than a KD, but I just it's tough 542 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,640 for me, Like there's still the bailout element of his game that can bother 543 00:34:06,759 --> 00:34:07,960 me or ruffle my feathers, where it's like, why you're not following through 544 00:34:08,039 --> 00:34:15,559 on your drives. I just like I feel like I'm going to oversimplify this. 545 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,079 I think if they don't win the title, or even if they win 546 00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:22,719 the title. One of the biggest laws of Jason Tatums Jason Tatum's game is 547 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:27,119 that that last level of offense sometimes doesn't always exist in where if it's like 548 00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:29,719 he's not getting in the basket as much, he's gonna be very reliant on 549 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:34,280 drawing fouls, like where he's either just inside the paint or he's even outside 550 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,440 the paint on jump shots, and that's just probably not going to sustain you 551 00:34:37,519 --> 00:34:42,880 as much in the postseason. So, yeah, that is something that he 552 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,480 definitely needs to work on, But I think he's actually gotten better. He 553 00:34:45,559 --> 00:34:46,480 did get to the rim a little bit more often this year, but that's 554 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:52,880 always kind of been his mo people. I think over exaggerated the mid range 555 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:57,199 stuff for much of his career and the rim pressure has been sort of lacklustered. 556 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,000 But again, like he's getting the rim more often than he did in 557 00:34:59,039 --> 00:35:02,480 the regular season during the playoffs. But there is something to the way that 558 00:35:02,599 --> 00:35:07,519 Boston's offense doesn't seem to want to run things through him in crunch and we're 559 00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:09,719 like, he's not going to necessarily start with the ball in his hand. 560 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,719 He's gonna need someone to get it in, or if he gets it's gonna 561 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,920 be too differential and it's not like drive and kick type stuff or like really 562 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:19,760 methodically breaking down and throwing the less obvious pass. And he's gotten incrementally better 563 00:35:20,039 --> 00:35:23,239 basically every season as a passer, So I think it's fair to consider that. 564 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:27,039 I just don't know if I would say one percent that that's what needs 565 00:35:27,079 --> 00:35:34,639 to happen. Cyborgian says, Okay. Cyborgian says, is it legal for 566 00:35:34,639 --> 00:35:37,239 the Blazers to burn the team and the arena to the ground and file for 567 00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:43,280 the insurance? I would argue that is illegal, and burning the team would 568 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,599 be murder, So I'm gonna say no. But the Blazers do need to 569 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,400 It's they either need to burn everything but Damian Lillard down, essentially if they 570 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:52,679 want to keep shading and this year's pick. I don't know what the point 571 00:35:52,679 --> 00:35:53,719 of that would be because you're not getting value for all these other guys, 572 00:35:54,159 --> 00:35:57,719 or you need to burn the entire thing down, keep shading this pick, 573 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,840 trade everybody else, and rebuild. That is the I don't know anything to 574 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:02,280 add on the Blazes. I'm not saying Damian's asked are out but if you're 575 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,519 keeping him, you need to be committed to it. And it's like go 576 00:36:06,679 --> 00:36:09,000 get that, go hit that home run trade or even a triple of a 577 00:36:09,039 --> 00:36:14,519 trade, which you've never done, not with Neil Shay and not now under 578 00:36:14,559 --> 00:36:19,000 this front office regime. So yeah, that those are my less than extended 579 00:36:19,119 --> 00:36:24,039 thoughts on the situation in Portland right now. Muckle asked what's your take on 580 00:36:24,119 --> 00:36:29,760 the craziness this postseason versus the importance of the regular season. Seems like some 581 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,079 people are saying the upsets further proved the regular season doesn't matter. I personally 582 00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:35,559 think it's good dev upsets and the number of upsets this year will prove to 583 00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:38,079 be an outlier. This year is more due to matchups and experienced Kings versus 584 00:36:38,119 --> 00:36:43,599 Warriors, terrible rebounding Cabs versus the Powerhouse Mitchell Robinson, and circumstances. Yeah, 585 00:36:43,679 --> 00:36:46,760 it's hurt Jimmy Supernova instead of a sign of things to come. Muckle, 586 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:52,199 you are right here. First of all, the upsets are good because 587 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:53,639 you want the whole point of the play and is to believe that these upsets 588 00:36:53,679 --> 00:36:57,519 can happen in the first place, which is why you want the idea of 589 00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:00,800 the ten seed making it into the playoffs, and I think you look, 590 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,000 you laid it out. The injuries were a big deal this season. I 591 00:37:04,159 --> 00:37:07,199 also what we have to see and this is look the NBA is trying to 592 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:12,079 do this. By the way, is Seth Partner wrote how one stars for 593 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,639 the dunked on Prime like email things where they daily dunks. I was reading 594 00:37:16,679 --> 00:37:20,800 a think it was like a week or two ago that stars were available. 595 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,840 The two best players of every team this year were available less much less than 596 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:29,239 in seasons passed. So we didn't have great information on what these teams would 597 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:30,440 look like in the postseason. And then you're also going to get to a 598 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:32,960 point where it's like if Miami lost a ton of games to injury, but 599 00:37:34,039 --> 00:37:37,559 they get a little bit more healthy. They didn't though they lost Tyler Hero 600 00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:40,199 and now they lost Jimmy Butler. You're just not dealing with the same level 601 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:45,719 of knowledge on these teams. The bigger thing here is though you have now 602 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:51,320 shrunked the ground in the gaps between these teams because you're not teams that might 603 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,360 skew dominant. Let's say let's use the Clippers just as an example. If 604 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,760 Kawai and Paul George had been more available this year. What do they look 605 00:37:57,800 --> 00:38:00,920 like they're not getting in his fifth or they getting in a second, Like 606 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,880 that's totally possible. We're seeing I think more of like, oh, there 607 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,079 are teams that are built for the regular season. Where the Kings, during 608 00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:10,360 the regular season they get relatively great health. They finished third. The Grizzlies 609 00:38:10,519 --> 00:38:14,000 they didn't get great health. But like they're so deep, and when you 610 00:38:14,119 --> 00:38:16,360 have just competent rotation players, it can go eleven twelve guys deep. You 611 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:21,199 can stand loose Steven Adams, Brandon Clark still hold on to second place, 612 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,079 that you're Williams doing nothing for you, you still hold on to second place. 613 00:38:23,639 --> 00:38:28,239 And the other thing I don't I don't want to say that this is 614 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,440 going to be a trend that continues. Some of it does come down the 615 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:34,320 load management, some of it does come down to injuries. Jimmy is trying 616 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,079 to spread out stars, and I want to talk more about this because Woman's 617 00:38:37,119 --> 00:38:40,880 is something that they expect that the goal of this new CBA was to get 618 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:45,039 that third star on a team to go elsewhere, and there aren't a lot 619 00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:49,239 of teams with three stars right now. I am not thrilled about that idea, 620 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:52,800 but the league is trying to while saving billionaires money because that's the goal 621 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,400 of everything. Apparently, still shocked, the players agreed it's all this. 622 00:38:55,119 --> 00:39:01,679 However, the league is actively creating straints that will incite more parody now with 623 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:07,559 this new CBA, and so I wouldn't necessarily rule out more upsets moving forward. 624 00:39:07,599 --> 00:39:09,559 Maybe it takes a while to be actualized. But I don't know if 625 00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:14,199 this season is going to be an anomaly when we know what we know about 626 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,960 how much stars are going to be available and rested during the regular season, 627 00:39:16,199 --> 00:39:20,440 and when it looks like talent might be spread out even further, these the 628 00:39:20,559 --> 00:39:22,519 gaps between let's just let's just say the one seed in eight seed when looking 629 00:39:22,519 --> 00:39:29,480 at the wins, what used to be these huge galaxy chasms in most instances 630 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,599 have now shrunk. And I think that we could, you know, for 631 00:39:31,679 --> 00:39:36,400 the most part, you could look at that this year specifically, we didn't 632 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,000 have a sixty win team. We had we had two fifty five win teams. 633 00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:44,079 That was it. And then just you know, the sixth seeds. 634 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:45,920 But or as an example, or let's even use the eight seed. Well, 635 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:49,679 that's weird because the play in skews Miami should have been seventh. That's 636 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,760 the other thing to consider here. But when you're looking at what would have 637 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:58,800 been the seventh place Heat, they had fourteen less wins than the first place 638 00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:01,800 Bucks. That ga was probably larger last year. Oh no, it wasn't. 639 00:40:02,199 --> 00:40:05,920 The Bulls had only said yeah, I mean, like the parody's kind 640 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,480 of been there during the regular season. The Heat won with fifty three games, 641 00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:10,440 had the best record in the East. Last year, Chicago was six 642 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:15,880 at forty six, and so like these gaps just aren't like huge in the 643 00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,800 West, it's probably a lot of different Phoenix was one, it's sixty four 644 00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:22,840 wins. Last year, the eight seed was the Pelicans ended up being the 645 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,400 Pelicans. Let's say the eighth best record was the Clippers forty two wins. 646 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:31,119 There was a twenty two win difference there that definitely reduced This season, Denver 647 00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:37,199 was at fifty three and the eighth best record was held by the Timberwolves. 648 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,920 They were at forty two. So that's eleven wins that you slashed that in 649 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:44,840 half. I think as talent gets redistributed, as teams are working within more 650 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:49,199 of these like CBA constraints, this could be something that we see continue. 651 00:40:49,199 --> 00:40:51,840 I don't think that makes means the regular season doesn't matter. It makes seeding 652 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,480 important because you're gonna want home court advantage, you're gonna want to stay out 653 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:58,039 of the play in, you're going to want to have it makes it more 654 00:40:58,039 --> 00:41:00,960 about matchups too. You're we're gonna want the most favor match up possible. 655 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,440 One thing not an original thought, people have been banging this drum. I 656 00:41:04,519 --> 00:41:08,800 would like to see them allow the top seed to choose which team that comes 657 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,000 out of the play and they get to face just to like kind of give 658 00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:15,679 more of an incentive for you'd have finish in first. And the other thing 659 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:20,960 is just like you shouldn't have to wait longer than the third, fourth, 660 00:41:21,159 --> 00:41:24,320 fifth, and sixth seeds to know who your opponents are, you know what 661 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,519 I mean? Like, what's then the advantage? Yeah, you could look 662 00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:30,320 and say, okay, well there are these groups of teams that we could 663 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,320 theoretically play, but you have to wait longer to game plan or you're you're 664 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,559 you're making things more complicated. So that is one change that I would like 665 00:41:36,679 --> 00:41:42,440 to see the league make. Make great question though whole I thought that was 666 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:46,719 a really good one. Hb Ass rank the coaches left in the playoffs, 667 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,719 or I guess they're they're telling me to rank the coaches left left in the 668 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,920 playoffs. I hate ranking coaches because all these coaches forget more today about basketball 669 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,679 than than I will ever know. I will The question was asked, though, 670 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,840 so I will take a dab at it. I think the easy like 671 00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:05,719 number one, just no debate here is it's Rik Blostra in Miami. Steve 672 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,519 Kerr's number two for me. I have Michael Malone at third for Denver. 673 00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:13,679 I think he's been really like kind of pull it the right threads in the 674 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,280 Phoenix series, specifically, lets you look at Game two, kind of removing 675 00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:21,880 MPJ, leaning into ball handling and defense with Bruce Brown, smart decisions like 676 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,559 that. I have Joe Missoula at four. There might be a case for 677 00:42:23,679 --> 00:42:28,239 him at three. He's made some changes. He also wants you to know 678 00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,400 it based off his press conference after a Game two against the Sixers. I 679 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:34,119 have Tips at five. This is weird. I just feel like he gets 680 00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,199 like his players always seemed to rally aroun him unless they're cameradish for the most 681 00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:42,199 part, and he's shown a willingness to adjust way more when it comes to 682 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,760 defense, specifically than I ever would have like thought or could have remembered in 683 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:50,400 his previous years with the Knicks, his stops at Minnesota, Chicago, even 684 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,199 Boston. I have Doc Rivers at six. I feel like he's quietly like, 685 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,199 don't a good job coaching the Sixers for the most part this year, 686 00:42:57,239 --> 00:43:00,280 Like they dealt with some injuries, they tried some different playoff line, not 687 00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:05,039 shying away from beball Paul in the postseason. If Monty Williams at seven, 688 00:43:05,079 --> 00:43:07,559 you could flip him with Doc Rivers or TIBs, like the margins here are 689 00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:09,800 pre thin, and I think I would like to see Monty, by the 690 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,960 way, if the sun's easy to go small at this point, ditch the 691 00:43:13,559 --> 00:43:16,039 you know, ditch the let's try and get eighton to play without your kis 692 00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:20,000 that he could dominate offensively, it's not working. I'd rather see you are 693 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,840 small in those minutes. He seems reluctant to make wholesale changes more than a 694 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:27,559 lot of coaches. And I have Hammon an eighth Lakers switter doesn't really seem 695 00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:30,519 to like him, like when they look at his time out usage and then 696 00:43:30,559 --> 00:43:32,599 some of the minute's distributions. I actually thought he's coached like a good team 697 00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:37,079 this year. But I've done a good job coaching this year overall, especially 698 00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:39,039 like it's first time head coach, first season in LA, I think he's 699 00:43:39,039 --> 00:43:44,480 been fine. So those are my rankings. Next question comes from dark Wing 700 00:43:44,599 --> 00:43:46,800 Duck. What offensive plays sets are trending in the playoffs? Oh hey, 701 00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:51,280 another question that you shouldn't want to come to the DAN for Valley of Hard 702 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:55,199 one knocks four. I will say, like not the name of sets or 703 00:43:55,239 --> 00:44:00,320 defensive schemes is not just something that like I do, like I can just 704 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,239 recognize, I think what's happening, and I'll probably have to rewatch it any 705 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,800 times. But I've noticed a lot more of this postseason anecdotally because I don't 706 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,280 have the status to back this up, it does feel like teams as biggs 707 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:16,480 are varying up their defense, like the defensive bigs are varying up their coverages 708 00:44:16,519 --> 00:44:22,079 a lot more. Where it's let's use imbeed as an example, where the 709 00:44:22,159 --> 00:44:24,159 regular season is drop drop, drop, drop drop, And yes, we 710 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,159 do typically see more adjustments of the postseason, but it's always he just coming 711 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,239 up higher to the screen, but we're also we're seeing more stumping, we're 712 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:36,119 seeing some hedging, we're seeing flat out like switching, and then we're still 713 00:44:36,119 --> 00:44:39,320 seeing drop. We've definitely seen it more with Yokich as well. Maybe we 714 00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,800 haven't really seen it so much with Boston or unless I'm just missing it there. 715 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,320 We've definitely seen some like shape shifting there with the Knicks. In regards 716 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,079 to it, I'm trying to think of the teams that are still in there. 717 00:44:50,119 --> 00:44:54,119 We've definitely seen some variability with the way that Ayton plays defensively, not 718 00:44:54,199 --> 00:44:58,119 always necessarily in a good way for that matter, And so that is maybe 719 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:00,039 this always happened and I just wasn't as and tune with it. And it 720 00:45:00,159 --> 00:45:02,840 just feels like some of the big man battles, like when you're looking at 721 00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:06,559 and Beat, you just won MVP. Congratulations Daim by the way, when 722 00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:08,360 you're looking at Yo Kitch involved in the MVP discussion, the Nuggets run a 723 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:12,159 ton of pressure. The defense supposed to be their weakness, YadA, YadA, 724 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,360 YadA. Even with Perclopez and Milwaukee, I thought the Bucks kind of 725 00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,800 throughout the season they did like a lot. It wasn't just yeah, they 726 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,119 were so reluctant to bring him, and that was part of the reason. 727 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:27,199 But I think Milwaukee, some of their sets against Miami were frustrating. He 728 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,199 would probably kind of fall into like the you know, Boston. I'm not 729 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,679 saying they play in pure drop, they varied it up, but like their 730 00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:35,920 defensive scheme doesn't feel like it's changed a bunch from the regular season, nor 731 00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,559 did the Bucks is watching them, And maybe that was someone else, Maybe 732 00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:40,599 that was many of your problems with coach Bud being there in the first place. 733 00:45:40,639 --> 00:45:45,360 But that's the that's that is the thing I'm noticing defensively, and I 734 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:49,440 will say offensively, when you kind of look at the clash of styles like 735 00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,280 and Lakers Warriors would be a perfect example. Anyone who thinks that NBA offensives 736 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:57,760 have become just strictly homogeneous and all look the same, it is just it's 737 00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,400 flat out wrong. Not saying dark winning Duck was implying Matt, But that's 738 00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:06,119 just where I'm at with that. Peto ass I find it, man, 739 00:46:06,519 --> 00:46:09,320 I find it absolutely fascinating. The structure of the Indiana Pacers rebuilds from now 740 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,679 on. In my opinion, they have a complete plank canvas for the upcoming 741 00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,800 off season. They can build up assets and talents slowly, or they can 742 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:19,119 kind of push to retool quickly. On this last note, today I woke 743 00:46:19,199 --> 00:46:21,719 up to the idea of cat in Indiana and I can't stop thinking about it. 744 00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:25,360 What are your general thoughts on this? Points are waking up and thinking 745 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:30,400 about Brownie points, thinking about the Indiana Pacers in fucking May when they're when 746 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,639 they're not even playing switch out at to you PO. I hate this idea 747 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,079 all due respect and Bower, this is what I was hinting at. I 748 00:46:37,159 --> 00:46:40,800 think I saw the answer. He called like a cat, a stretchy er 749 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,920 Andre Drummond just too cruel. But Bower did say they would not just acquire 750 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,920 towns straight up and like forst matching salary, even it wasn't cost you in 751 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:52,039 town. That's a I just feel like it's a very short sighted way to 752 00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:55,679 look at it. Towns we've seen can be super effective. This year, 753 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,159 he was completely out of his element. I know people think he fades in 754 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,800 big games, that he's offt on as soft and low i Q on defense, 755 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:06,440 and that he has these sort of inconsistency performances. There's been so much 756 00:47:06,599 --> 00:47:09,440 churn roster, churn coaching, churn to Minnesota for so long. Give me 757 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:14,719 him on a somewhat stable roster. And if you're gonna surround him with the 758 00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:16,679 right defensive infrastructure, And by that, I mean if you want him to 759 00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:21,480 play with a big, maybe he let's not lean all the way into like 760 00:47:21,559 --> 00:47:24,000 a supermax big like Rudy Gobert. That's Miles Turner felt like he would been 761 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:25,920 a cheaper option. And why are we trying to get a cat to play 762 00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,719 with another big in Indiana? I guess the idea would be a Miles Turner 763 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:34,320 for Miles Turner for Cat swap. But why do you playing Miles Turner and 764 00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:37,400 Gobert together? That might be a you know, the Turner can stress the 765 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,760 floor, but that would be a disaster. Cat is one of the most 766 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:45,360 dynamic big men offensively all time. And I just feel like I'm not blaming 767 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:46,320 at all on the Wolves. It's definitely some of his on him. His 768 00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,920 lack of growth on defense and disappointing, But the constant turnover there I think 769 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,480 has really impacted his development as a as a player and maybe even just as 770 00:47:54,559 --> 00:47:59,800 a leader. And I think if you gave him more time without Rudy Gobert, 771 00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:04,360 like without like if it was just Jade McDaniel's Anthony Edwards calmly and that's 772 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,440 your core and Carlton Town is there, I think it would end up panning 773 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:08,840 out. I do not like him in Indiana, though I do agree with 774 00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:14,960 you Peto that Indiana isn't just a very flexible position. Three first round picks 775 00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:20,280 this year they can have if they so please. They can get to like 776 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,960 almost thirty million in cap space. I think a lot of people have like 777 00:48:22,039 --> 00:48:25,400 twenty seven and a half. But they can do things there to cut costs. 778 00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:30,639 I'm sure somebody would trade for Buddy Heel's expiring contract. They can look 779 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,400 at getting rid of Daniel Tice. I think we're getting looking at him. 780 00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,599 Go to teach McConnell. They're a ways for them to just get into the 781 00:48:36,639 --> 00:48:43,800 thirty million dollars range rather effortlessly. And so do they spend that money and 782 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:45,239 who do they spend it on? This free agent market is not super deep. 783 00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,480 Could you see them making run I like PJ. Washington for them going 784 00:48:49,559 --> 00:48:52,800 after literally any way, and Chris Middleton would be incredible in Indiana that would 785 00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,559 probably have to be assigned and trade for them. Unless he's gonna sign for 786 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,480 thirty something million over a longer term. I guess he could do that. 787 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,239 That would be you talk about really juicing up and accelerating your timeline. Chris 788 00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:07,599 Middleton in Indiana with Ben Nick Matherin, Tyrise Halibert, and Miles Turner, 789 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:12,079 that would be something. So yeah, they're I think they're in a great 790 00:49:12,119 --> 00:49:15,440 position. I'm very interesting where they land in the lottery. But to add 791 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:19,400 another top prospect to this, I think they're gonna try and do the vaunted 792 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,760 middle build though to where I don't know that they're going to spend their cap 793 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,960 space on all these high impact guys or even one player. Maybe they definitely 794 00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:30,039 need to flesh out just sort of the three four spots and make those like 795 00:49:30,159 --> 00:49:34,559 diversify those packages. But like, I think they're gonna be invested in, 796 00:49:34,639 --> 00:49:37,599 like, well, we need to you know, you already have Tyrise Haliburton, 797 00:49:37,079 --> 00:49:39,880 probably gonna see more from Like does Ben Nick Matherin start next year? 798 00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:43,239 What happens with Andrew nem Hard. I think they're gonna be very invested in 799 00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,159 him. They're not a team I would say, I'll phraze it this way, 800 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,199 I'd be fairly surprised if they make a big offer to one free agent 801 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,400 this summer, just based off the market. I think they should. By 802 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,400 the way, I love bj Washington there. I think he's my favorite fit. 803 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:58,119 But I don't think they're gonna go out like the DeAndre Eton route. 804 00:49:58,159 --> 00:50:00,679 And I don't think they're gonna be the team that makes the huge trade. 805 00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,559 And if they do, could it be something where it's like Miles Turner and 806 00:50:02,599 --> 00:50:05,920 Buddy Healed for DeAndre eight. And at this point, because we know that 807 00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:08,039 they really like DeAndre eight, agree with you overall, people though that the 808 00:50:08,079 --> 00:50:13,880 Pacers are in an an enviable position from a roster building perspective. We have 809 00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:16,360 let me check, I have discord notifications. Is there more questions that I 810 00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:21,280 need to get to here? Uh no, But so we'll make this. 811 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,920 The last question comes from unbiased Pistons fan. If you've got to implement one 812 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,199 new salary cap or contract rule, it can be any want. What would 813 00:50:30,199 --> 00:50:32,519 it be. I'd make players making max money locked into their teams for two 814 00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:37,239 to three years minimum, hopefully stop guys from signing a big deal and trying 815 00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,559 to force their way out early. This is so that's interesting. I just 816 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,039 I just don't think create demands. There's big of a problem as we make 817 00:50:44,079 --> 00:50:46,519 them out to be. And it's it's like, are you locking the teams? 818 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:51,440 I'm running away from the microphone? Are you are you holding the teams 819 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,000 to that too? Like? Can they still trade these players over two to 820 00:50:54,079 --> 00:50:58,360 three years? Players can't request a trade? That just seems like super uneven 821 00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:00,519 in that regard. If you but if you want to make it that way, 822 00:51:00,559 --> 00:51:04,840 where's teams you can't offer this deal unless you're going to keep this player 823 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,199 for two for minimum of two to three years or three years. That would 824 00:51:07,199 --> 00:51:14,440 be fascinating to see how that changes the contract climate. If I could make 825 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,880 a change, I think I would just like get rid of the extension rules 826 00:51:19,079 --> 00:51:22,119 so to speak. Where it's right now, it's going up to one hundred 827 00:51:22,119 --> 00:51:23,800 and forty percent? Is the maximum raise you can offer for these you know, 828 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:28,159 the non rookie, non designated you know guys are making me all like, 829 00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:31,159 aren't supermax eligible or they're not coming off their rookie scales? Just like, 830 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,199 what are we doing here? At this point? You're in a position 831 00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,960 to where I'm trying to take a good example, Jalen Brown is not going 832 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:38,960 to sign for a one hundred and forty percent of it. He needs to 833 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:43,400 be making all the bat and be Supermax eligible, and so you're forcing him 834 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,519 to hit the open market. But you're claiming you want teams to kind of 835 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,360 retain talent, and that makes it more likely, quite frankly, that they 836 00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,800 won't because if he's if it makes financial sense for him to hit free agency, 837 00:51:54,559 --> 00:51:57,840 he's going to hit free agency. So I would like to see them 838 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,480 be able to offer these guys the max. Maybe you still want to have 839 00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:01,920 criteria, whereas if they make an All Star team, you're allowed to offer 840 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:07,400 them like what their max would be. I would like to see that because 841 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:09,880 I think it would streamline a lot of the team building processes and also help 842 00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,760 players decide their future. I would probably, also, by the way, 843 00:52:13,880 --> 00:52:15,000 undo a lot of what we're seeing in the CBI. I don't like the 844 00:52:15,039 --> 00:52:20,039 second luxury tax tax apron rule. Had a conversation about it with Keith Smith 845 00:52:20,119 --> 00:52:22,440 of spot track or check that out previous podcasts from like a month ago or 846 00:52:22,519 --> 00:52:24,840 whatever. I would just get rid of so much of that stuff and the 847 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:29,000 other thing I would consider. But they're going in a complete opposite direction. 848 00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:32,920 Is just like rewarding teams when they're going to have all these talents. Where 849 00:52:34,039 --> 00:52:37,719 if you have a player who's you drafted and has been on your roster for 850 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:42,079 a certain number of years, let's say let's say it's his third contract, 851 00:52:42,559 --> 00:52:47,559 that their money like X amount of money won't count towards your luxury tax bill 852 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:52,840 or something. I think that would incentivize then maybe smaller market teams to spend 853 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,400 more in general. I think a lot of people believe that would benefit more 854 00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,920 of the Clippers Warriors types. It might, But the big one would be, 855 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,159 let's change these tension rules because I think that they're just outmoded and they're 856 00:53:01,199 --> 00:53:07,840 disingenuous to actually allowing teams and players to plan their long term futures together or 857 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,199 with or without each other. And then if a player turns down your max 858 00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:13,400 extension that you can offer earlier, then you know that you need to move 859 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,559 on from him. 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