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Well off a weekend that has seen
Showtime say goodbye with a David Morell knockout,

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and he has seen Bam Rodriguez become
unified as a Flyway champion with an

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impressive showing in the matchroom. Dezonn
main event it is seeing Jake Paul deliver

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a one punch knockout back on Friday
night, and we are ready for the

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day of reckoning and to hear from
Deontay Wilder on this podcast. It is

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the Fight Freaks Unit recap. Hello, I am merely the somewhat capable host

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TJ Reeves, He's our insider.
Is there still a tear in the eye

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of Dan Rayphiel, I'm not sure. From Fight Freaks Unite his substack in

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Bigfight Weekend dot Com. All right, we're ready to recap all of it.

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It is done for Showtime Championship Boxing
and we've got a lot to talk

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about. First of all, how
you feeling coming off the weekend. You

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know, I'm a melancholy to use
another one of the vocabulary words you love

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when I pick one out, Yes, so, I mean I'll put it

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like this. At least you know, maybe it wasn't the greatest cart on

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paper, but at least Showtime ended
with some fun action. Uh. And

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in terms of the we'll talk about
the band fight in a minute with Sonny

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Edwards turned out to be, uh, you know, a very impressive performance

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and a much better action fight than
I think anybody had expected. And you

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know that's why they fight the fights. You never know when you're gonna get

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a good surprise. Correct me if
I'm wrong, Jake foll Ko stop me,

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Stop me if I'm wrong. Valezuela
in the co feature on Showtime,

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Ko Morell main event, ko Akmadalia
co feature on his own Ko Bam Big

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Ko. In the main event,
we were five for five on knockouts kids

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in the recap, Yeah, what
it means we don't have to talk about

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any controversial scoring and judging in this
episode of the podcast. Guys, what

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did you say? It's Lennox Lewis
famously saying, here are my judges right

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here, the right and the left, and that's what happened in a lot

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of these fights. Okay, thank
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you enjoy the content. Preview mode, going into the weekend recap mode.

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Coming off the weekend again, Deontay
Wilder. You'll hear from him. Coming

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up. Dan was part of a
media group, a gaggle small. Well,

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there weren't fifty seven of you,
but there were a couple of No,

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I think if I remember there,
if I look back at there was

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like four of us. Time to
call all right? As well as Deonte.

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You'll hear Dan asking the Bronze Bomber
questions as he returns to fight Joseph

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Parker Saudi Arabia this Saturday. You'll
hear a couple of other questions and comments

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from Wilder. That's later in the
podcast, but first let's get to it.

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Showtime says goodbye PBC Main event.
David Burrell gets the knockout, not

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unexpected. He did it quickly in
Minneapolis, his adopted home. Give me

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some thoughts on this again, Folks. Will cover the nostalgia of Showtime later,

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but as for the fights in the
ring, thoughts first on Morel.

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Well, remember they were supposed to
fight he and senateg Beco back earlier this

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year, and that fight was called
at the last minute because of a medical

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uh this problem with one of his
medical reports, which was later worked out

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and he was cleared no problem,
but he had to drop out of the

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fight. And so Morell went in
the ring and knocked out Yamaguchi Falco in

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the first round. And now they
finally reschedule this fight between him and Senate

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eg Beco to close out the final
show Time made event, and instead of

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knocking out in one round, he
knocked Hi out in the second round.

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So David Morrell has a first round
knockout this year and a second round knockout

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this year. He is a bad
boy. He's now ten and zero,

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but he has the poise and the
power and now you know, between his

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amateur experience and you know, he's
fought some pretty decent guys as a pro.

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I mean, you know, he
may only have the ten fights,

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but don't make a mistake. This
is a guy that you know, I

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view was like a veteran at this
point. He is a very serious threat

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in that weight class. And I
mean, I don't want to sound blasphemous.

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And I'm not trying to get ahead
of my skis and and I'm not

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caught up in the moment of that
knockout against ag Beco, because I know

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it wasn't like the super top guy. It's like what al Bernstein said,

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is eg Beco a top you know, five or six or seven type of

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super middle eight. No, but
he's a rugged, tough, solid,

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experienced guy, you know. And
and he just took him out like he

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was taking out the laundry, you're
taking out the trash whatever, and just

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pummel him. And I'm gonna tell
you right now, and again, I

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don't want to sound blasphemous. He
gives David Bennevievez a tough fight, might

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win. He gives Canelo Alvarez a
tough fight he might win. That's how

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good this dude is. And he's
young, he's like twenty five, twenty

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six years old. He's not even
in his prime yet. And he's dangerous.

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He's in great condition, he's got
good power with both hands, and

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you know he can hurt you.
I don't care you know what you are,

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and it doesn't matter if you're you
know, a veteran or you're an

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up and comer, or you're an
older guy, younger guy. He's gonna

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be in the fight no matter who
he's in the ring with. And it

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was a very impressive performance. He
he's such a good finisher. As soon

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as he had ag Beca in any
kind of trouble, he just let the

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hands go, you know, And
I think he I think he believes he's

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got a good chin aucer because he
was not in any way shape or for

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him thinking or word. It didn't
seem to me about what might come back.

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He just was in a position where
I got my man backed up in

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the corner and I'm gonna let those
shots go. And I thought Mark Nelson,

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who was the referee, did a
perfect job in terms of the way

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he stopped that fight. And you
know, another another win, uh,

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one for the road for David Morrell. And as you pointed out, uh,

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he just walked right at at Becco
and Agbco could not do anything in

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response once he got hurt, didn't
grab on, didn't fire back. So

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that was a good stoppage because he
clearly was out on his feet and maybe

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on the verge of getting seriously hurt. So again, that ran upper cut

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is nasty too, let me tell
you impressive and we will qualify again.

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Here he's got to step in the
ring with a bigger, you know,

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named opponent, world class caliber fighter. But right now, every thing you're

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seeing, he's improving, He's improving
every time you see him. So morell

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very exciting name, very exciting name. He was supposed to fight Benavid's and

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their sides had a deal and ben
AVIDI has decided to put the Kebash on

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an event. He went for the
Andred fight instead. Which I'm not faulting

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him and blaming him or saying he's
ducking or anything like that. I get

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the fact that Andreid was a bigger
name, probably a bigger payday, an

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easier fight, to be quite honest, and uh, you know, I

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don't have a problem with that.
But but Morrell, he saw, you

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know, he was ready to go
one to the fight and after this fight

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against Agbecco once again when they asked
him. When Jim Gray in the final

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interview on Showtime Championship Boxing asked David
Morrell what he wanted to do in his

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next fight, he said, absolutely, you know, and he spoke in

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English, you know, he's learning. He's from Cuba and he's been living

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in Minnesota where they pretty much don't
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you know, it's broken English,
but you can tell he's tried. Yes,

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he tried, and I give him
respect for that, but he was

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The English was clear his day when
he said the name Benavides multiple times.

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So that's the guy he wants to
fight. Uh, you know, I'd

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like I'd like to hope that that
fight could happen. I think that would

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be a very interesting and intriguing fight
and certainly, uh, in my mind,

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kind of a pick sort of fight
between these two guys that both young.

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Uh you know, Denivid is only
like a year older. I think

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morell what Morrelse twenty five Dnavidas twenty
six, I mean, both undefeated fighter,

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so and what happened. He's a
south pot with power and a good

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IQ and good feet in good hands, and he's got good size. I

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mean he's a freaking handful, That's
all I can say. All right,

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coch by the way, and also
highly highly entertaining. Yes, he's that

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rare, that rare Cuban fighter that
really is a crowd pleaser. Yes,

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and uh, and Big Time Power
co feature fight also had a big knockout.

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Then is Valenzuela and Colbert. It
looked like it might be over in

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the first round. Now, remember
Colbert weathered a first round barrage from val

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Valenzuela in their first fight earlier this
year and got a narrow decision. When

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that Valenzuela was still upset about this
is the rematch. He had him hurt

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again Dan, and nearly had him
out in the first round, maybe had

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him down. He went down in
a corner, kind of in a crouch

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position on the bottom rope. Referee
called it a knock down. Then there's

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big punches landing after that. To
Colbert's credit, he was firing back,

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but man Valenzuela kept pounding him,
landing power shot after power shot, and

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finally here we go again with boom, a booming right hand. Culbert out

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face first Dan on the first rand
of ropes. Wow. Well, I

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thought that that dollon z Wella won
the first fight, and if he had

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gotten the decision that he deserve,
I don't think there would have been a

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rematch. But be that as a
may you know, props to Colbert for

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agreeing to give him a rematch for
vallenswell, obviously he wanted the rematch,

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so he did it again. You
know, two young guys, both with

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futures, and they put it on
the line, and you know what,

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Valon Zuela did not forget what happened
the first time around. He came out

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as you know, he came out
like you, like Hagler, hearns,

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came out against each other like he
was going for and immediately in the first

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opening seconds and he landed. It
was a legitimate call by the raft to

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call that a knockedown. It was
the ropes that held him up clearly,

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and he you know, he had
a humongous first round. You know,

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for the first you know, two
minutes, he was just beating the living

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you know what out of him.
And you know, to Colbert was able

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to weather that storm. But you
know, at the end of the day

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he could not take the heat for
that long. And as the fight went

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on, he had a couple of
moments, but it was more like one

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punched at a time where a burst
of two or three and then a long

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period where he wasn't able to do
a whole lot, and Valezuela just kept

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going and let me tell you that
right hook that put him away, that

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should be I know we're here near
the end of the year, so it's

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more in your mind about now than
what might have happened back in you know,

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January, February or March or whatever. But that should definitely be on

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the on your short list of knock
out of the Year candidates. Right on

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the button and he fell into the
ropes, twisted and then like you said,

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came to rest like on his belly
slash head face down like Teeter tottering

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on the bottom moving. Yeah.
No, that was a rough Mars knockout.

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They actually said on the in the
end of the broadcast that they had

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taken h Colbert to the hospital just
as a precaution. Hopefully the young hopefully

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he's okay. Uh, you know, I appreciate that Chris Clobert swagger.

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I'm not sure what that swagger is
gonna be like after taking that kind of

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ruthless kind of knockout. And for
Venezuela, I mean, this kid,

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uh, you know, he got
kind of sidetracked with that loss, but

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he's right back there. I mean, he's he was one of the best

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prospects in boxing before that fight.
Uh, you know, he should have

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won the fight. I don't really
look at the loss as something that's damaged

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his reputation or his ability or his
future whatsoever. You know, this kid

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is is something to look out for. He's he's a he's a very solid

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guy. And what I also like, you know, in the lightweight division,

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which is loaded. You know,
he he he wants to fight Tank

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Davis. He's willing to fight anybody. So you know, obviously, you

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know, when you call out Tank
Davis and if he get the fight,

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you obviously make a huge amount of
money. But I also think that you

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know, he really believes he can
win the fight and he can do some

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damage in there. So uh,
you know, I don't know if he's

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quite ready for that, but I
appreciate the the uh the desire to to

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fight top guys. And he looked
great. You know, I was a

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big fan of Vealezuela prior to the
fight with Colbert. I didn't get down

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on him because he lost a fight
he should have got to win in and

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he certainly looked looked really really good
tonight. Great way for him to close

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out the year, Colbert. You
know, I think he might be better

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suited going back to one hundred and
thirty pounds. You know, he seemed,

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you know, undersized against Valezuela.
And there's a lot of other lightweights

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that are just as you know,
rough and tough as he is, and

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you know who they are in this
way class, so you know, he

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might be better off going back down. But balan Zuela, he's gonna be

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a problem at lightweight for a lot
of guys for for a long time.

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He's still very young, all right, no doubt. So we've gain you

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a lot there on the showtime card
again, more on the nostalgia coming up

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in a little bit. Let's go
to the guys. Go ahead, we

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got it. We got to bring
up the old guys for a minute.

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All that's right. Robert Guerrero,
Roberto Robert Guerrero and Andre Bertow the old

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man fight. Yes. Can I
just tell you that I really I lost

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interest after about the second or third
round because it was a bit in slow

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motion for me. It got better
though, Teach got the okay, all

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right, give me give me a
quick thought. Look, I'm not saying

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it was a classic, okay,
but they went out doing the best that

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they could. It's like I said
to in the preview, at least they

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put the forty year old guys against
each other. It would have been a

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lot worse if they had put either
of these guys in with a you know,

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a young, hungry, up and
coming guy. But at least they

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were evenly matched. You know,
Berto had lost him eleven years ago.

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He lost to him much wider on
on the fight tonight. Back then it

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was a you know, like one
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he got knocked down two times.
But other than that, it was a

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very entertaining, highly competitive fight.
Tonight a little sloppier, they're obviously a

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little slower, a little older,
not as much action. You know.

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Guerrero wins ninety nine to ninety one, ninety eight, ninety two on two

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cards. I thought Berto actually kind
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there. But you know, certainly
a clear Guerrero victory. And you know,

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I hope Berto calls it a day. I know he had the itch

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to get back in there. I
think he might have realized that he shouldn't

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be fighting anymore. Guerrero, though, was gung ho afterwards. He's like,

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you know, maybe I can get
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we'll see. You know, let's
not get too carried away. Was

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you know ancient a guy in Berto
we had and fought since twenty eighteen.

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Listen, I've always had a soft
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I've known both them since they were
like very very young fighters, covered

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all their big fights, known them
for many many years. Good guys.

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You know, when Robert Guerre won
the Boxing Writers Association Award for Courage and

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Overcoming Adversity, when he gave up
a world title fight and basically his title

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to care for his wife who was
fighting cancer, and I had a good

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relationship with him and his team.
You know, he asked me to present

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him the award of the Box Orders
Association. I have a relationship with Robert.

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He's a great guy. And I've
known Berto forever also, and I

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love those guys. I don't like
seeing them fight again, but you know,

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I understand where Robert's coming from.
If he goes and he tries to

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get another fight, you know,
I can't really blame him for Berto.

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I hope he does call it today, you know, blast from the past,

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as they say, you know,
and like they gave the good they

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gave the best effort. Like,
I can't fault him for I might have

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not been the fight of the year. I'm kind of glad it wasn't the

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fight of the year because I don't
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damage, you know, And if
that was gonna be like a little retro,

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like a little kind of fight on
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can live with that. You know. We saw the old guys, we

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saw there were young guys, and
we saw a guy in Morell who's just

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you know, gonna be a star
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Oh I got I gotta jump in
one secon though. Yeah, they

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actually said Now, somebody else mentioned
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I forget who it was, but
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Remember, we're trying to figure out
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so we had this one to eleven
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Bernard Hopkins. Then later we came
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bone Crusher Smith. That turns out, I guess this is the record.

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I mean, I don't think it's
official, but they came up with yet

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another one. It was Larry Holmes
against Mike Weaver, which is Larry's second

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to last fight of his career.
They went nineteen years between their first and

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second fight. Crazy. I thought, I thought it might have been twenty.

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Maybe it was twenty, but it
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I think something like that. But
what the bottom line is it was

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a little bit longer than what happened
between Bone Crusher and UH and Larry more

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nostalgia later on the on the finish
showtime again there was nostalgia everywhere all right,

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matchroom de zone and speaking of knockouts, what a performance by Jesse Bam

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Rodriguez. And by and by the
way, I don't get to gloat at

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you very often, but I you
know, I question. I questioned myself

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that I didn't take Bam on the
money line, which I should have.

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I didn't have a feel for knockout
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Bam got the win and man I
credit Sonny Edwards that he took punishment

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in this fight. But Bam Rodriguez, what a performance to capture now the

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unified flyweight championship in Arizona. In
that main event, tell me what you

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saw, including another timber knockout.
Really at the end of this, well,

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I got that one wrong because I
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to me nothing against BAM, but
I felt like Sonny Edwards was the much

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better technical boxer and we're you able
to do what he's done against lots of

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other guys, and just how box
a guy you know, have a little

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bit better skills, all the better
speed. You know, he uses his

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angles, you know, stay away
from the bigger punches. And I was

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wrong because Bam took it to him
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I'm again, I'm not I'm not
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anything bad about BAM's performance or or
even like Edwards because he did so much,

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he did show so much heart in
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like he fought the wrong fight,
like he didn't. Now, BAM was

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partially responsible for making him fight that
way. He dragged him into a war,

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which is not to Sonny Edwards way
to win fight. Sonny Edwards doesn't

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get in war. Sonny Edwards boxes
and jabs and moves and and hits and

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doesn't get hit. But for whatever
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that against Rodriguez, and he paid
the price in a big, big way

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because if he boxes a little bit
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first round he was dragged into it. I want I wanted to tee you

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up with that. That Sergio Mora, and it was Barry mcgwigan, right,

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we're both on the call, Barry
Jones, Barry Jones. Forgive me

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Barry mcgwiggins on the brain as the
promoter, but I thought they were both

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on it that it seems tactically that
Sonny Edwards, even early in the fight

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first and second round, is content
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and Barry Jones kept saying, I
don't understand where's the where's the lateral

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movement? Like in the second round
of the fight. He's saying that,

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and we didn't see it in the
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you're right, right, for whatever
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to move. So Sonny the CounterPunch, Sony probably won the first round.

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I have to go and take a
look at the official scorecard. Sonny,

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Sonny, you know, for the
first I guess maybe like three or four

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rounds issue. It was like a
coloh is a close fight. Bam lost

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the first round on two scorecards.
I'm looking at the scorecard now, and

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so that put Edwards ahead. But
then you know, pretty much Bam took

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over. You know, when he
scored the knockout, he was certainly ahead

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on all three scorecards. He was
up eighty seven to eighty two, eighty

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nine to eighty one, and eighty
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I can't really read that, but
the point was he was ahead on the

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cards. And I feel like it
was because Sonny fought the wrong fight,

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but Bam lured him into the brawl
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All credit to Bam for making him
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and also uh to Sonny Edwards for
showing such a tremendous heart because look,

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as I thought, after round nine, which is before they you know,

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this is right before they stopped the
fight in the corner, was it

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was his trainer or his team that
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It wasn't like Sonny was like you
no, no, Moss. I think

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he would have continued just because that's
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But his face looked like he was
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was. His his left eye was
all fucked up and swollen from early on

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in the fight, I think from
a punch. It was swelling right away,

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and you knew that was going to
give him problems. And by the

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time the fight was in the later
rounds before it ended, he's got blood

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streaming down. A cut on the
on the corner of his brother eye and

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it was just a and you know
cut over the eye. It was.

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His face was like a ruin and
bam. You know, looked like he

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was ready to go out, you
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go for dinner and a dance.
I mean, uh, you know it

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was. And then the knockout,
Oh my goodness, just a left hand

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right on the chin knocked him down
face first to his knees. Basically,

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he did beat the count. I
give him credit because I thought he was

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done. He would not know where
he was, but he got his corner,

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did the right thing, and the
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I mean, listen, the bottom
line is, you know, we

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talked about this. I think a
little bit before that. I was disappointed

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that the ring magazine did not allow
this fight to be for the Ring Magazine

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title, and part of that I
think was because, uh, you know,

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Bam was a little bit lower in
their ratings, even though he's coming

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down in wait as being a champion
in the higher weight and certain as Julio

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Caesar Martinez was the guy that was
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them, and certain he is an
excellent fighter, but he constantly is postponing

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or kanceling fights. He's probably not
going to fight till next you know,

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who knows, in the beginning of
next year. And to me, these

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were the two best guys in the
division. That was my I test my

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knowledge of their careers, and I
felt like absolutely this was a worthy fight

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for that title. And he prove
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yes, we beat Edwards. He
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And I'm gonna interject this too.
Let's just say it. This is the

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best guy that Sonny Edwards had been
in there with, most talented, young

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hard punching and you see what happened
when you can't keep the guy off of

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you. And he was trying,
he was throwing big punches and was trying,

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but Bam Rodriguez walked right through him. Here's the thing about this,

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right emotion, great emotion from Bam
two after that fight, on his knees,

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almost in tears, celebrating what a
great win. This is the biggest

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win for him because as great of
as the names were when he beat Quadras

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to win his first title and then
he defeated sar Ungbi side, you know,

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those are two, you know,
superb guys that dominated in those in

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the one hundred and fifteen pounds weight
class in and around for a long time.

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Part of that forsome along with Jan
Francisco Estrada and also the great Chocolatito

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Gonzalez. But they were older when
he fought them and were not what they

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were at their best. They'd been
in a lot of worse. He's fighting

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Sonny Edwards, who was undefeated in
his prime, ever been really touched up

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like this in a fight before.
I consider this by far and away the

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best win of BAM's career. It's
the kind of win where if he continues

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to do what he's doing, and
years now he winds up in the Hall

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of Fame, you'll look back and
you'll say that was a win. That

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was a significant one that's on that
record. When you go and you figure

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out why you're voting for a guy
for the Hall of Fame, that's the

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type of win. I believe he
should be on the pound for pound less

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find the spot there in that top
ten somewhere. And and now what I

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love about it is that you know
he wants as they say, what is

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it, TJ as the kids say, he wants all the smoke. Yeah,

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you know, so they're talking about
possibly fighting one Francisco Estrada. You

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know, he would love to have
that fight. Whether they can make it

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happen, They're gonna have to pay
One Francisco Astrada a lot of money.

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You know, he was supposed to
fight Ioka in a unification at the end

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of this year, like the New
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able to get that deal done.
So Wan Francisco Astrada is currently without a

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fight. I think dam Rodriguez and
him. If Estrada is willing, that

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sounds like an awful, tasty fight
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year. And Eddie Hearn said,
and he promotes Choco Latito as well at

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times said maybe it's that fight he's
got a lot of options. The reason

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why probably not is because they both
are Damn is co promoted by mister Hanna

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from Teaking Boxing, who's also the
co promoter of the promoter I guess of

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Chalk Latito, and mister Honda does
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In that sense, Chocolatito is like
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let that happen. Mister Honda is
a probably the single most respected person in

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the entire industry of boxing, and
if he says he doesn't want that fight

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to happen, that fight's not gonna
happen. All right, But is a

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different story. All right, this
is why we have you here for the

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Insight again. We're gonna recap the
Jake Paul fight here. In just a

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moment or two, you're gonna hear
from Deontay Wilder. We rock along on

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the recap. Just one more off
the Dezone card. Akmadolajev did win by

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knockout and was impressive in doing so. When the co feature fight say something

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about that real quick, well,
I mean he he was coming off of

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losing his title in a in a
pretty big upset that as we talked about

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on the preview cost him most likely
the opportunity to be the challenger in a

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or you know, to be the
co fighter let's say, in a undisputed

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fight against Noya in a way.
You know, he had the two titles.

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He was upset by the Polas earlier
in the year, and so this

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was like the get back. He
faced Kevin Gonzalez, an undefeated fighter.

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It seemed like on paper a pretty
reasonable matchup. And Akmadaliev, you know,

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still only with like now thirteen fights
even though he's been around for a

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while at age twenty nine, but
was a top latch amateur, and he

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went in there and he showed the
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I still think is a pretty good
fighter. But he did the job,

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and he scored an eighth round knockout, and it was a pretty impressive performance,

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and he kind of at the end
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I mean, you know, the
the broadcasters, Chris Mannis in particular,

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was like was saying, what are
we doing here? Like as my

406
00:23:37,519 --> 00:23:38,759
boy TJ would say, what are
we doing here? Stop the fight?

407
00:23:40,079 --> 00:23:42,000
You know, he's taking a lot
of unnecessary already knocking down a couple of

408
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,279
times he was hammering him at times, yes, and so they waved it

409
00:23:45,319 --> 00:23:48,559
off that and you know, as
as Mannix made the point in the interview

410
00:23:48,759 --> 00:23:52,359
when he was talking to Acmadaliav afterwards, you know, he said, you

411
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:53,599
know, do you think this was
the best performance of your current I think

412
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:56,079
you know, he'd be hard pressed
to say it wasn't, because even though

413
00:23:56,079 --> 00:23:59,920
he's got some other, you know, solid wins, like he beat Dan

414
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,559
Roman, for example, when he
won the unified titles, it was a

415
00:24:02,559 --> 00:24:04,880
split decision. Who was very close? You could argue the other way.

416
00:24:06,079 --> 00:24:07,880
When he defended the title, it
was not against the top notch guys,

417
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:11,160
and he maybe didn't look the most
impressive. You know, he did stop

418
00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:15,359
Ronnie Rios, that was a nice
win, but again it's Ronnie Rios,

419
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,240
not a not an undefeated guy,
a guy that we kind of knew his

420
00:24:18,279 --> 00:24:21,640
limitations. And then he lost at
the Ballus and so now he goes in

421
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:26,640
with like a fresher, younger guy
and Gonzalez who's undefeated and you know,

422
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,000
a guy with whose game you know, good aggression, and he pummeled him

423
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,319
basically good knockout. So how's a
good win for him? And by the

424
00:24:33,319 --> 00:24:37,759
way, it was an eliminator,
so it makes him now in the WBA,

425
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,599
he would become the WBA's mandatory for
the winner of in a way to

426
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:45,799
Polus. Now, whether they stay
in that way class or they get an

427
00:24:45,799 --> 00:24:48,119
exception or do other things, you
know, who knows we'll actually get the

428
00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,279
shot. But the point is he's
going to have a title shot in his

429
00:24:52,319 --> 00:24:55,759
future, whoever it's against. You
know, as long as you know he

430
00:24:55,759 --> 00:24:57,720
he's won this eliminator fight, and
doesn't you know, take maybe a tune

431
00:24:57,799 --> 00:25:00,839
up and lose or something like that, but you know he's in a great

432
00:25:00,839 --> 00:25:07,880
position. As the bottom line Friday
night and boom from Jake Paul not unexpectedly.

433
00:25:08,079 --> 00:25:12,519
It is a first round KO of
Andre August. All right, So

434
00:25:12,599 --> 00:25:18,400
we did talk about this on the
bet Us show. You were very much

435
00:25:19,039 --> 00:25:25,079
bully bully on the under I don't
even think you thought though two minutes and

436
00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:27,759
change, but that is what it
was. First legitimate, big punch.

437
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,119
It's over all right, So Dan
Rayphield, what do we make of it?

438
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,920
Because Paul wanted to fight a legit
cruiserweight. I don't know how legit

439
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,960
this guy will ultimately be considered,
but he dispatched him with one punch.

440
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,720
Your thoughts, well, I guess
I was. I was slightly surprised it

441
00:25:44,759 --> 00:25:48,119
was the first round, but not
entirely surprised it was the first round.

442
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,519
I said, and I quote on
our bet Us show. I love the

443
00:25:51,799 --> 00:25:55,640
under This was an eight round fight. The under was what six and a

444
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,039
half. I'm like, yeah,
no way, yep, the way,

445
00:25:59,079 --> 00:26:02,359
this dude's going six and a half. Then I think it was gonna be

446
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:03,160
two and a half minutes. Now
I thought maybe he might get out of

447
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:07,880
the first round. But as we
spoke about, even though he's been a

448
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,640
professional boxer, it's the only combat
sport he's done. He's done for much

449
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:17,799
of his life as a professional.
He has compiled a record going into the

450
00:26:17,799 --> 00:26:19,119
fight of ten and one with one
draw. Now, of course he's ten

451
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:25,200
and two with one draw, and
that that's on paper. That's a nice

452
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,839
looking record, obviously, but you
have to look at all the things and

453
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:30,440
the factors going into it. He
is coming, he was coming off of

454
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,640
a victory. He gets an undefeated
fighter, you know, just a few

455
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,759
months ago. But before that he
had had a long layoff. You know,

456
00:26:36,799 --> 00:26:38,680
I don't know the exact reason,
but I'm very very confident that a

457
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,519
good portion of that was because of
the pandemic. And then if you examined

458
00:26:42,519 --> 00:26:48,400
the opponents that he thought they were
the very very low level, many sub

459
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,079
five hundred fighters, pro debut fighters, that sort of thing. And what

460
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,119
I said also, and I truly
believe this, is that if you don't

461
00:26:55,799 --> 00:26:59,720
pick Jake Cau to win the fight, how would you pick if it was

462
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:11,079
August against Anderson Silva or a Tyron
Woodley or some of the other as they

463
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,920
probably would have beaten this guy also
even though they're not boxers by trade.

464
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,799
So I sort of thought about that, And look, this is about Jake's

465
00:27:18,839 --> 00:27:25,519
development to get reps and you he's
going the route that normal fighters that are

466
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:30,000
more anonymous go, which is match
with different styles of guys, certain levels

467
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:34,960
of experience, certain kind of records. I think also after going the distance

468
00:27:36,039 --> 00:27:40,680
with Diez, after going the distance
at a loss against Fury, you know,

469
00:27:40,759 --> 00:27:41,960
his people were like, it's time
to get some of the mojo back,

470
00:27:42,039 --> 00:27:45,599
Let's create some more excitement. Let's
get a guy that we can think

471
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,720
you know that he can absolutely drill
and and get the get the people talking

472
00:27:48,759 --> 00:27:52,599
again. And that's what he did, because whenever you think about Andre August,

473
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,160
you know, we don't really know
much about him. It was a

474
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,400
sweet shot. I mean, it
was a beautiful right uppercr on the button

475
00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:03,920
and he put him out that There's
no doubt the guy has got power in

476
00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:07,480
that right hand. I don't care
if it's against a former NBA player,

477
00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,880
a former MMA star, and we
now saw it here again. He can

478
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,319
knock people out with that right hand, and so take that for what it's

479
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:19,839
worth. Alsoj I thought his technique
and his just the way he went about

480
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:26,480
it was pretty good. He focused
on some body shots. I know,

481
00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:27,960
we only got like two minutes and
thirty two seconds to work with, but

482
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:33,119
in that span of time, he
landed several shots to the body. So

483
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,079
he tried to work downstairs. He
jabbed his way in. He used a

484
00:28:36,079 --> 00:28:40,000
double jab, which was pretty effective. I mean, are those are the

485
00:28:40,079 --> 00:28:42,200
types of things that I'm sure that
he was working on in the training camp.

486
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,440
Now you get to the fight and
you try to implement them and do

487
00:28:45,559 --> 00:28:49,680
them the way you did in the
gym. It's all about repetition and repeating

488
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,400
it and repeating and repeating it,
and he was able to do that and

489
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,559
then he finally let the bomb go, and you know, he just had

490
00:28:56,559 --> 00:28:59,319
no chance. When he got caught, he was over and out. I

491
00:28:59,359 --> 00:29:02,480
mean, remember one thing, by
the way, the one loss that August

492
00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:06,960
had previously suffered was a ko.
It was early, not the first round,

493
00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:08,079
but it was early. And it
was also a fight that took place

494
00:29:08,079 --> 00:29:12,359
in the light heavyweight division. And
clearly he was there as the opponent to

495
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,240
more than likely get beat, if
not knocked out quickly. And that's exactly

496
00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:19,279
what happened here. So this now
begs the question, this was no real

497
00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:26,200
challenge, no sweat figuratively for him. Jake Paul said after the fight on

498
00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:30,440
the de Own broadcast he would have
an announcement next week about the next fight.

499
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:36,319
From my standpoint, you could see
him back easily in like sixty to

500
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:40,079
ninety days if he wanted to non
pay per view against a huge name,

501
00:29:40,359 --> 00:29:45,000
pick somebody else and like February March, get in the ring again, because

502
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,400
this was nothing tonight in terms of
stress. I don't know what their plans

503
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,079
are, but speculate with me,
what do you think? Well, I

504
00:29:51,079 --> 00:29:52,279
think if you know, he made
the point, like you know, certainly,

505
00:29:52,279 --> 00:29:56,920
if that some kind of crazy big
money fight comes along, he said

506
00:29:56,599 --> 00:29:59,200
he would entertain it the same way
he said that to me in our interview.

507
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:00,960
I mean, I who can blame
if some guy claus you out and

508
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,759
you can make ten million dollars,
I mean, you know, why wouldn't

509
00:30:03,759 --> 00:30:07,319
you do that? But if that, you know, if his laser focus,

510
00:30:07,359 --> 00:30:11,119
as he said, is on the
continued development, staying in the gym,

511
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,319
honing his skills and keeping things going
and staying active, then it wouldn't

512
00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:19,279
surprise me if he had another fight
against you know, maybe a little bit

513
00:30:19,279 --> 00:30:22,920
of a better opponent than Andre August, but that caliber of opponent in the

514
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,559
sense of a guy who's a boxer
by trade, who's got a similar kind

515
00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:29,880
of record, who's got some experience, maybe a little bit of a better

516
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,279
caliber of opponents he has face and
like you said, come back a couple

517
00:30:33,319 --> 00:30:34,880
of months and be back in the
ring on his own, put on that

518
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,319
type of card, and just you
know, keep doing your thing. Because

519
00:30:37,359 --> 00:30:41,920
he's made the point money is not
the most important thing, right, I

520
00:30:41,079 --> 00:30:44,960
believe him, based on the actions
he's taking, he's made the money.

521
00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:48,559
Now what about this, and again
we're just speculating. You got this whole

522
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,720
I don't even know if it's a
triangle. I gotta remember, I gotta

523
00:30:51,759 --> 00:30:53,480
go ask my twins about algebra two
here in a few minutes. Is it

524
00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:59,279
a quadrangle? I'm not even sure
what it is. Because he lost to

525
00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:03,599
Tommy fear, ks I beat his
brother, Logan Paul a couple of times.

526
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:10,240
KSI has now also lost to Tommy
Fury. Might this be Jake Paul

527
00:31:10,359 --> 00:31:15,119
trying to fight KSI. I don't
know that a Tommy Fury fight would be

528
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,039
next or anytime soon, but I'm
sure it's gonna get brought up. Would

529
00:31:18,119 --> 00:31:22,200
Jake Paul maybe fight KSI? Or
does Logan Paul say no, no,

530
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,240
wait a minute. I fought this
guy twice, KSI. I didn't beat

531
00:31:26,319 --> 00:31:27,640
him either time. I want to
be the guy to fight him. I

532
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,599
don't know how that any of that's
gonna work, but I'm sure that name

533
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,960
is gonna get kicked around. I
don't know how realistic it is. MY

534
00:31:33,319 --> 00:31:37,960
brain is numb after that. Whatever, you're a quadrangle, I don't know.

535
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:41,960
I just know that sure what that
was, having seen KSI in other

536
00:31:42,079 --> 00:31:47,200
bouts. Mm hm, no,
nothing against him. I know he's got

537
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,480
a popularity and he does this with
the fits and all that. I mean,

538
00:31:51,119 --> 00:31:53,240
I think Jake Paul smokes ks I
tell you the truth. I mean,

539
00:31:53,519 --> 00:31:56,480
and I look, if he wants
if that was a fight that came

540
00:31:56,519 --> 00:31:57,519
up, who could blame him.
I mean there's be a huge amount of

541
00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:00,079
money in there, that's right,
no doubt about it. But that's that

542
00:32:00,079 --> 00:32:05,839
that would not be following the sort
of vision that Jake has stated, which

543
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:12,559
is to continue to develop with actual
boxing matches and maybe we'll see him right

544
00:32:12,599 --> 00:32:16,359
back there in Orlando, uh and
and doing another fight h at that at

545
00:32:16,359 --> 00:32:20,200
that venue against another boxer. Like
I said, it just kind of keep

546
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,599
doing this thing. I mean,
young fighters who are on the way up.

547
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,720
You know, it's not unusual from
the fight you know, every couple

548
00:32:24,759 --> 00:32:28,319
of months, every three months.
You know, back in the days when

549
00:32:28,359 --> 00:32:30,880
Tyson was coming up, he was
fighting every couple of weeks. I mean,

550
00:32:30,519 --> 00:32:36,279
so it's all a matter of what
his appetite is for the activity and

551
00:32:36,319 --> 00:32:38,079
how much they can you know,
I mean, he's gonna make money.

552
00:32:38,079 --> 00:32:39,960
Obviously, they got to work out, you know, the deal. I

553
00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:44,920
assume if he stays with his own
which is the broadcaster for his Prospects series

554
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,279
and has done the last you know, Amanda Serrano fight. So it seems

555
00:32:47,279 --> 00:32:51,640
like they've got something good going there, and we'll see, all right,

556
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,880
we will find I'm enjoying the ride
though, I'm enjoying watching them and that

557
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,480
was an exciting knockout, whatever you
think about it. And as I said

558
00:32:57,519 --> 00:33:00,480
to you, if he's back fighting
boxer, I'm back in on this.

559
00:33:00,599 --> 00:33:07,119
It's intriguing enough because of the big
punch and ultimately, just one more time

560
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:12,920
here if he wins another fight against
someone, the lucrative fight is the rematch

561
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,920
with Tommy Fury, if they can
make that happen, let's say later in

562
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,920
twenty twenty four. I don't think
that would be next, but that would

563
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,960
be a pay per view that they
would look to make. So let's see.

564
00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:24,680
Let's see if he listen. I
don't think that, at least in

565
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:29,839
the United States. I don't think
there's too much magic to a Fury rematch.

566
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:31,599
I'm not saying it's well, you
know what, I'm going to disagree

567
00:33:31,599 --> 00:33:36,519
with you. I think if they
could convince Fury with money to come here

568
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,119
to the US and it's a rematch
Jake Paul lost to this guy, there's

569
00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:45,440
genuine interest in that. I just
I think there would be more if it

570
00:33:45,559 --> 00:33:51,319
was in America. Whether Tommy Fury
can actually come to America. We don't

571
00:33:51,319 --> 00:33:53,319
have to get into all that,
but that could be a problem. That's

572
00:33:53,319 --> 00:33:57,160
a good point on that, A
good way to leave it on that.

573
00:33:57,559 --> 00:34:00,880
As we've been promising, we'll now
get into this conversation. And Dan just

574
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,519
set it up a little bit because
there were several media members you were prominent

575
00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:12,320
among them talking to Deontay Wilder leading
up to his fight his return after a

576
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,000
couple of years away here as he
has been, or actually, you know,

577
00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:20,840
a full year away as he has
been. He gets ready to fight

578
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,280
Joseph Parker in Saudi Arabia, and
you were on this, you were able

579
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,840
to see him. You were on
this media call here. Yeah. Yeah,

580
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,559
So Deontay was in his car parked
and we were on a zoom call.

581
00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:34,679
It was I believe four of us, myself, my boy Keith Ide

582
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,719
from boxing scene, a couple other
guys, and we had about twenty minutes

583
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:42,280
to talk to him, ask him
some questions randomly. The moderator from the

584
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,559
Zone, you know, it was
one of their pr people, Fred Miller

585
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,199
said, Rafael, why don't you
get us started. So I asked the

586
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,760
first, you know, two or
three questions, and then they went around

587
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,000
into the other guys. And the
thing I was interested to talk to Deontay

588
00:34:52,119 --> 00:34:57,559
about what you'll hear is he's fighting
Joseph Parker, obviously a former champion,

589
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,159
a good matchup. You know,
we'd like to be see fight Joshua instead,

590
00:35:00,159 --> 00:35:05,519
but that maybe in the future.
At none the event, I recollected

591
00:35:05,519 --> 00:35:08,000
to Deontay that there was a time
back, you know, several years ago

592
00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:12,480
when I went to cover a fight
in Alabama that he was defending the WBC

593
00:35:12,559 --> 00:35:15,760
title and Joseph Parker, who at
that time was the WBO champion, was

594
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,960
in town. One of his guys
was on the show, and he was

595
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,400
there to kind of check things out, and there's a lot of discussion about

596
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:23,719
that fight being a unification. So
I talked to Deontay about why it didn't

597
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,599
happen, and now we're finally here. So Deontay was in great spirits,

598
00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:30,559
had a lot to say, and
I'm looking forward to seeing him back in

599
00:35:30,599 --> 00:35:34,159
action on the day of reckoning.
So again, let's hear from the former

600
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,360
WBC champion. He's in action coming
this Saturday, as Dan just mentioned you're

601
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:40,480
gonna hear Dan's questions. You're gonna
hear a couple of other questions in comments

602
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:45,320
too with the Bronze Bomber. When
I heard that you're gonna fight Joseph Parker

603
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:50,000
and then they set this this little
session of it made me think to myself,

604
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,360
I remember back being at one of
your fights in Birmingham, Alabama,

605
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:58,039
in like twenty sixteen or two thousand
and seventeen. You weread either fight Ariola

606
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:01,400
or Gerald Washington, and Joseph at
that time was the WBO champion. He

607
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,639
was there at your fight, and
there was a lot of conversation back then

608
00:36:06,199 --> 00:36:07,639
that one of the fights that would
be coming up if you were successful in

609
00:36:07,679 --> 00:36:12,119
your fight, which you were,
would be a unification fight between Deontay Wilder

610
00:36:12,159 --> 00:36:14,840
and Joseph Parker, fight that a
lot of people thought would be a really

611
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:17,440
big time fight at that time.
You know, it didn't happen. I

612
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,199
don't really know. Why do you
have a recollection of that? And what

613
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,480
the heck took so long? Well, you know, I definitely remember that,

614
00:36:25,639 --> 00:36:31,280
and and Joseph Barker ran from me
because he's seen what I did to

615
00:36:31,519 --> 00:36:36,880
uh. I think who else I
was fighting. It was either Gerald Washington

616
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,840
or Chris Ariola Washington. Deal Gerald
Washington. I was Gerald Washington, and

617
00:36:42,039 --> 00:36:45,199
you know he came to talk a
good game and talk about you know,

618
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,960
fighting me or whatever, just like
all the other ones. And they see

619
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,360
what I hes seen what I what
I you know, the performers I had

620
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,760
by knocking Joel Washington out and he
fleed, he ran, you know,

621
00:36:57,079 --> 00:37:00,360
just like the all of them.
And I always say many time, I

622
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:04,960
supposed to unify the division many many
years ago, if I had the opportunity,

623
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,039
But unfortunately, no one has ever
given me the opportunity like I'm getting

624
00:37:08,159 --> 00:37:13,880
given other fighters the opportunity to fight, you know. And uh, it's

625
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,599
just sad because I have a blessing
and a curse. But you know,

626
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:21,599
but God is good. Here we
are again. You know, a lot

627
00:37:21,639 --> 00:37:24,599
of great things is happening. A
lot of doors has opened, and a

628
00:37:24,639 --> 00:37:32,119
lot of opportunities is looming around.
And I'm I'm just I'm honored to be

629
00:37:32,159 --> 00:37:37,320
able to uh be able to perform
in Saudi Arabia and start and kick the

630
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:43,880
thing off. And I'm looking forward
to the to the day of the reckoning.

631
00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:46,599
You know, me and Parker.
Yeah, Like I said, we're

632
00:37:46,599 --> 00:37:52,199
supposed to have been fault while back, but he ran so since you know

633
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,400
now is I don't know how he
built the courage up now, you know

634
00:37:57,639 --> 00:38:00,800
or whatever. But I'm glad he's
here, you know, because I'm gonna

635
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,639
punish him, you know, And
and I'm looking forward to fight him,

636
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,440
you know. All in all,
just looking forward to fight him, and

637
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,159
I can't wait for it to happen. It won't be long now, all

638
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,480
right. My second question, and
as much I think as a lot of

639
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,039
people are looking forward to this very
loaded card with a lot of top heavyweights

640
00:38:16,039 --> 00:38:20,920
and some other world title fights on
the show, you know, you and

641
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,159
Anthony Joshua are in the headline fights, and everybody knows and everybody want to

642
00:38:23,199 --> 00:38:25,440
see you guys fight each other for
a long time. I know you've been

643
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:29,679
asked this a million times, but
let's just get it on the record here

644
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,239
on this session. If you guys
both win your fights and you are both

645
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:36,760
the favorites, what kind of assurances
do you have from anybody, either the

646
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:39,960
Saudist who are bankrolling this thing,
or from the Joshua side, that that

647
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:44,440
that's the next fight for you guys? I know how much you want it.

648
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,800
Yeah, yeah, you know.
I can't put a percentage on it,

649
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:52,480
but know that it is high.
You know. I can't talk for

650
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:57,679
others, so I can go off
for only what I feel and what I've

651
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,760
been hearing. And it looked great. It looked great, you know.

652
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:05,559
So right now, at this moment
in time, we both have a job

653
00:39:05,639 --> 00:39:09,199
to do. Come Decembar to twenty
third. He is with Otto Walland and

654
00:39:09,199 --> 00:39:15,800
our minds is with Joseph, and
we must handle that business and get it

655
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,320
out the way. You know,
I'm seriously focused on Joseph, as I

656
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,039
know he's, you know, seriously
focused on Otto Wiland. And once that's

657
00:39:24,079 --> 00:39:29,159
over with, then great things is
gone. Nothing but great things is happening

658
00:39:29,199 --> 00:39:31,320
from this point on, nothing but
great things. So you know, I

659
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:36,599
can tell the fans to be looking
forward to two great and wonderful things,

660
00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:40,840
you know, from from this point
on and up up as the years unfolds.

661
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,039
Thank you very much, Jada,
that's a lot to you. Blessings,

662
00:39:45,039 --> 00:39:51,400
thank you, Happy all todays.
Hey Deontay, you fought less than

663
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:54,320
one round in the last two years. How has that helped you? Maybe

664
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,480
helped you in some way in terms
of letting your body recover and all that

665
00:39:58,559 --> 00:40:01,199
kind of stuff. No, it's
been great for me, you know.

666
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,119
I just I've been I've been in
my happy place, you know, as

667
00:40:05,159 --> 00:40:09,480
I'm as I'm always is just happy
center, you know, been around beautiful,

668
00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:14,679
loving people that love me the most, and you know, it's been

669
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:20,119
great. So I really don't worry
about how long I've been out a none

670
00:40:20,159 --> 00:40:25,920
of those things because although although although
although my body is not there, my

671
00:40:27,039 --> 00:40:30,360
mind has never left. So with
that being said, I'm always My mind

672
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:36,800
is always you know, training,
my mind is always working on different things.

673
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:42,320
And and Decemblar twenty thirty is going
to show what I'm talking about alive

674
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:47,800
and in person. De'anty. What
do you think of Joshua's fight against Waleen.

675
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,840
It's not an easy fight and he
has lost to the last two times

676
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:52,800
he fought the South. While he
lost, I mean, what do you

677
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,480
think the probability is that he wins? How do you look at that fight?

678
00:40:58,559 --> 00:41:00,239
I mean, I don't I don't
know that really that's gonna be up

679
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:05,119
to him, you know, to
figure out his own game plan and how

680
00:41:05,199 --> 00:41:09,679
he's he's gonna be able to bounce
back, you know, Otter fighting South

681
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,639
Paul's and come back. You know, I mean, this is his fourth

682
00:41:13,679 --> 00:41:17,079
trainer he then switched up with.
So hopefully they have the answers to that,

683
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:21,760
because I definitely don't. All I
have to do is wish him the

684
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:27,480
best and nothing less. Say whatever
you want, but that is a lightning

685
00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:30,400
bolt right hand. We've been talking
about knockouts on this whole recap podcast.

686
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:36,920
Let us not forget this guy has
had one savage knockout after another, and

687
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,079
now we'll see what he will do
with Joseph Parker. We'll preview it more

688
00:41:39,159 --> 00:41:43,440
later in the week, but I
know you got to see the bronze bomber

689
00:41:43,519 --> 00:41:46,719
he's about to be back. Final
wrap up thought, please, I just

690
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:51,800
know that when Deontay Wilder is in
the boxing ring, it's great for boxing

691
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:55,639
because he's exciting with that one punch
capability against anybody, and he's got a

692
00:41:55,639 --> 00:42:00,360
big personality and I'm happy to have
him back. I mean, it's a

693
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:05,119
a good card, a big card, it's reasonably priced and hopefully then will

694
00:42:05,199 --> 00:42:07,599
you know, if you know,
whatever's gonna happen is gonna happen. But

695
00:42:07,679 --> 00:42:10,599
if Deontay Wilder and Anthony Joshua are
victorious. As we've discussed, they are

696
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:15,079
trying to negotiate the final little details
or big details, if you will,

697
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,519
other than the money, to make
sure that these two men are in the

698
00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:24,400
ring on March ninth, pending victories
on Saturday and no injuries. And so

699
00:42:24,679 --> 00:42:28,199
we'll see if Deontay can do his
part, and we'll see if Joshua can

700
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,639
do his part. All right,
we're progressing along. We're gonna get to

701
00:42:30,679 --> 00:42:35,039
the showtime montage and the nostalgia in
a couple of moments. A couple of

702
00:42:35,079 --> 00:42:38,480
news items coming off the weekend,
some fight announcements including Taya Fimo Lopez and

703
00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:44,519
more give it to me please here. What you got so all along top

704
00:42:44,599 --> 00:42:47,159
ranks hope was that they would have
had Tia Fimo Lopez back in the ring

705
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:52,559
a couple of weeks ago in the
Heisman Trophy Night in New York City.

706
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,679
They couldn't come with a fighter,
work out the deal or whatever have you,

707
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,559
and so they went with what we
saw that great upset and great fight

708
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:04,159
between I Feel Espinosa and Robessey Ramirez. But they apparently now have Lopez,

709
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,480
you know, in the fold and
willing and ready to come back where he

710
00:43:07,519 --> 00:43:10,199
hasn't fought since he won the WBO
and Millennial title against Josh Taylor in a

711
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:14,440
really super performance back in the summer. You know, he claimed he was

712
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:16,480
retired for like thirty minute, you
know, thirty seconds. We know he's

713
00:43:16,519 --> 00:43:20,159
been going through some tough times in
his personal life with the divorce and the

714
00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:22,679
and the custody battle, but it
seems like now he's finally in a place

715
00:43:22,679 --> 00:43:27,320
where he's ready to get back in
the ring, you know, at least

716
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,880
mentally, and ready to ready to
to to you know, to to do

717
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:34,119
what he should be doing, which
just take advantage of the fact that he

718
00:43:34,199 --> 00:43:37,840
had this great victory and build off
of it, you know, against Josh

719
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,840
Taylor. So they wanted to have
him against Jose Ramirez, which would have

720
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:44,320
been a very good fight. Jose
is an excellent fighter, former Unified champion,

721
00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:47,920
just a very close loss against Josh
Taylor when they met Unify, and

722
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,920
that would have been a very interesting
matchup. That's a big time fight.

723
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,159
They offered Jose Ramirez. This is
Coprank telling me this. They offered Jose,

724
00:43:55,559 --> 00:43:58,159
you know, quite a bit of
money. I don't know the exact

725
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:00,519
number, but it was, you
know, probably close to was one of

726
00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:04,239
his biggest paydays, you know,
seven figures for sure to do this fight.

727
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,079
The date is February eighth, will
take place in Las Vegas. Why

728
00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:08,840
you say the eighth, which is
a Thursday, The reason is because that

729
00:44:09,039 --> 00:44:13,639
is the Thursday before the Super Bowl. They're going to be played at Allegiance

730
00:44:13,639 --> 00:44:16,960
Stadium. So similar to what they
did when they had Cha Cour Stevenson fight

731
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:22,000
on a Thursday during the week that
the Formula one Las Vegas Grand pre was

732
00:44:22,039 --> 00:44:25,239
taking place. They would like to
have another boxing event, you know,

733
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,800
in a city where there's the biggest
sporting event in the world, which is

734
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,239
a Super Bowl. So that's the
reason for that. The date of the

735
00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:35,960
location is not set. Probably will
be Mandala Bay, which is a great

736
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,920
boxing venue, probably my personal favorite
of any venue I've ever covered a fight

737
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:44,559
at. But instead of fighting Jose
Ramirez, who for whatever reason is unwilling

738
00:44:44,599 --> 00:44:45,920
to fight this guy. And I
don't know what Jose's doing because he's only

739
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,199
had like one fight a year for
the last few years, and you know,

740
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,199
it's not like his prime is going
to get any longer. He's already

741
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:53,400
thirty one years old, he's only
got the one loss, so I don't

742
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,599
know what the deal is there,
But anyway, he's gonna fight Jermaine Ortiz,

743
00:44:57,639 --> 00:45:00,360
who has been fighting as a lightweight
content he'll be moving up to the

744
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:04,719
junior walterweight to take on this to
take on this fight for the title.

745
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,119
And if you know Jamaine Ortiz,
you know he's claimed to fame. You

746
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:09,679
know he's a good fighter. Seventeen
one and one. But he's kind of

747
00:45:09,679 --> 00:45:13,840
in a revelation because back in the
May of last year, you know,

748
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,519
he was the underdog when he went
in there as a lightweight against Jammel Herring,

749
00:45:16,519 --> 00:45:19,559
who was a one hundred and thirty
pound champion that was you know,

750
00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:22,079
had been moving up to another weight
class, and you know, he beat

751
00:45:22,159 --> 00:45:24,920
him pretty soundly. You know,
it was not a complicated fight to score.

752
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,719
He one hand lay on the cards
and that he parlayed into a fight

753
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:34,000
against Vesseli Lomachenko that place. That
fight took place last October, and he

754
00:45:34,039 --> 00:45:36,920
gave a great performance in that fight. Now he lost the decision, but

755
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:39,079
he gave Wilmachenko everything you could handle. He was like a gazillion to one

756
00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:43,960
in that fight, and he looked
very good. In that fight despite the

757
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,480
loss, and he come back.
Since then, he had one fight,

758
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:50,920
you know, ran through Antonio Moriana, you know, like a fringe,

759
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,159
you know, a journeyman, let's
say, a gatekeeper if you will,

760
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,639
a guy that Devin Haney Ice with
one punched, you know a few years

761
00:45:55,679 --> 00:45:59,880
ago, but he went ten rounds
with him, one comprehensive decision. And

762
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,400
you know, if Ramirez turns it
down, next man up. Top Rank

763
00:46:02,519 --> 00:46:06,679
and uh, you know, and
uh, Jimmy Birchfield are the co promoters

764
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,599
of Jimmine Ortiz and he's getting this. He's gonna get a great opportunity.

765
00:46:09,679 --> 00:46:13,880
So I am told by Top Rank
that although the fight is not one hundred

766
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:15,960
percent locked down, as they say
in the business, the paperwork is out.

767
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,000
In other words, they've agreed to
all the terms and now both sides

768
00:46:20,039 --> 00:46:22,960
have their paper have their contracts for
their team to look over and and you

769
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,000
know, deal with that. But
it seems like that is going to happen,

770
00:46:25,039 --> 00:46:29,119
and that'll be a big event for
super Bowl week. There you go,

771
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:32,400
Keishawn Davis. By the way,
Jose Pedraza looks like that's the co

772
00:46:32,559 --> 00:46:37,760
feature. Yeah, that was supposed
to happen on that December card where Robasi

773
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:43,800
and Rafielspinoza fought. But because Keishaan
Davis unfortunately tested positive from marijuana, he

774
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,920
was suspended for six months, and
so his suspension will be over and he'll

775
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:49,000
be able to get back in the
ring hopefully. You know, uh,

776
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,559
you know, if you want to
smoke marijuana, that's his own business.

777
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:53,119
I suppose it is legal in many
places in this country, but the bottom

778
00:46:53,159 --> 00:46:55,719
line is it's still against the rules
and most commissions I think all trash.

779
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,679
And if you want to be a
professional boxer, you got to follow the

780
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,400
rules. So I don't advocate smoking
marijuana, but if you're gonna do it,

781
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,960
just make sure you don't fucking get
tested before your fight because they're gonna

782
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,119
suspend you again. Match Room.
By the way, during the Bam Rodriguez

783
00:47:10,119 --> 00:47:15,840
Sonny Edwards card on Sorry Night,
made some announcements real quick, What are

784
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,039
the fight announcements because all of these
are also coming in February. Go ahead,

785
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,559
Yeah, they announced events for February
tenth, sixteenth, and twenty fourth.

786
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:25,440
They have a prospect kind of card. I believe it's probably their next

787
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:29,280
gen card. This won't mean a
lot to the United States audience. But

788
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,119
ConA Walker and Cyrus Pattinson are going
to have a rematch and a really outstanding

789
00:47:32,679 --> 00:47:37,559
battle this past August, so they'll
fight on February tenth in Newcastle. The

790
00:47:37,639 --> 00:47:40,440
next fight is a rematch for the
IBF one hundred and eight pound title,

791
00:47:40,639 --> 00:47:45,360
where it was a big upset when
they met the first time, when Adrian

792
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:51,280
Kiriell defeated my boys Savanti and Nansinga, who was the winner of the fight

793
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,840
of the Year that I picked in
twenty twenty two, but he lost the

794
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:58,519
title in their first fight. They're
gonna have a rematch. As they say,

795
00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:00,880
as the kids say, you're gonna
run it back, They're gonna run

796
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:04,639
it back. It was a timber
knockout for Curiel, a shocker, a

797
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,800
one punch bomb good night, So
they'll have they'll have that in. That'll

798
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:12,280
be one of their Mexican cards that'll
take place in February sixteenth. And then

799
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,760
this is the one that's This is
the big I mean, these announces are

800
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,559
not huge fights, I mean,
but this is the biggest one in terms

801
00:48:16,599 --> 00:48:20,239
of the name and I think the
attention that will receive this will be on

802
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,440
February twenty fourth. It will take
place in Orlando, Florida, and it'll

803
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:27,880
be Edgar Berlanga in the in the
fight that we've expected against Petrog McCrory,

804
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,679
the Irish fighter, and hopefully this
will set up the prospect if he's the

805
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:37,039
winner of him eventually fighting Hemimungia.
Should Mangia defeat John Ryder coming up,

806
00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:40,199
so they're gonna do this matchup.
It'll be at the Carib Royal, which

807
00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:44,280
has become a hot location for boxing. It's where Jake Paul fought the fights

808
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,679
recently. It's where the WBA just
had its recent convention, and you know,

809
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,840
those folks that run that place,
they view boxing as an important part

810
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,320
of their program. I love it. And and also I think for Edgar

811
00:48:54,639 --> 00:48:59,880
it'll be good because in Orlando,
it has a very, very large quarter

812
00:49:00,199 --> 00:49:02,880
community. It's the biggest Puerto Rican
community there is in the United States.

813
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,920
Well, I mean, other than
Puerto Rico and New York City is the

814
00:49:07,079 --> 00:49:08,880
is the greater Orlando areas. So
I'm sure he'll bring a lot of Puerto

815
00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:13,159
Rican fans. I don't know how
big the Irish community is in Orlando,

816
00:49:14,119 --> 00:49:16,320
but anyway, it is closer to
Saint Patrick's Day, February twenty four.

817
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,679
Not quite there, but you're right. Yeah. Now, I've seen McCrory

818
00:49:19,679 --> 00:49:21,760
fight a few times. You know, he fought on some of the Michael

819
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:28,000
Common company cards at top rank put
on ESPN plus. He's eighteen, No,

820
00:49:28,119 --> 00:49:30,719
not a big puncher, but he's
not at all. It's not a

821
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,079
scrub. I think he's you know, he may be the underdog in the

822
00:49:34,119 --> 00:49:36,920
fight, but this is not like
a walkover. Just if you never heard

823
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,880
of him, trust me when I
tell you like's not he's not bad at

824
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,679
all. I'm not saying he's gonna
win, but it's not a ridiculous fight,

825
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,079
particularly if the idea is for if
Berlanga wins and Mongia wins, to

826
00:49:46,079 --> 00:49:50,079
match them together in a in a
you know, a very interesting matchup.

827
00:49:50,159 --> 00:49:53,480
So those are the three shows that
they announced. Great stuff on that and

828
00:49:53,519 --> 00:49:59,199
great stuff from Showtime are nostalgia devoted
to them. Tremendous job right off the

829
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:00,880
bat with the three and a half
minutes that they came on the air with

830
00:50:01,039 --> 00:50:07,920
recapping everything in their amazing thirty seven
year run that they had. I thought

831
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:13,119
it was very well done. Professionals. They've been professionals the entire time,

832
00:50:14,159 --> 00:50:20,719
tremendous broadcasters, tremendous technical and production
people behind the scenes. Very well done,

833
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,320
is what I will say. With
all of the nostalgia, What did

834
00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:27,559
you think of all? I saw
my Man Rayfield tweet on Sorry night.

835
00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:30,360
You had a tear in your eye
when they opened the show with that,

836
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:35,760
because it was almost like a funeral
and almost like saying goodbye for these guys,

837
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:37,719
even though we're more than likely going
to see all, most or all

838
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:43,960
of them in another broadcast outlet.
This is it not necessarily we thought.

839
00:50:44,079 --> 00:50:47,159
We thought we'd see Roy Jones and
Jim Lampley and right and Max Kellerman still

840
00:50:47,159 --> 00:50:52,519
doing boxing matches when HBO left Bause. Jim has not called the fight since.

841
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,000
You know, Max has been around, but even when he was still

842
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,400
at the ESPN, he wasn't doing
fights. He had his other programs he

843
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,239
worked on. And Roy hasn't really
done fights either. He's continued to do

844
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:05,360
some exhibitions and train some guys,
but you know, they haven't ever gotten

845
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,480
that team back together, and so, you know, you like to think

846
00:51:07,519 --> 00:51:08,639
that some of these guys will carry
on, but that was a group that

847
00:51:08,679 --> 00:51:12,280
have been together a long time.
You know, I take it kind of

848
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,960
rough because I know a lot of
those people. I consider you know a

849
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:16,079
lot of those people that are at
show time our friends of mine. I've

850
00:51:16,079 --> 00:51:19,480
known them for many, many years. There's so many great people there.

851
00:51:19,519 --> 00:51:22,519
Now. The one thing I was
disappointed that the montage you reference was outstanding,

852
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:27,760
but I was super disappointed when the
card ended and they didn't show the

853
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:32,000
real full MONTI montage of like,
this is our thirty seven year history.

854
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,039
Now. I don't know if it's
a rights issue with certain highlights. Who

855
00:51:36,039 --> 00:51:39,320
the heck knows, But all I
know is they closed out with a montage

856
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:43,360
of still photographs of their production crew. Now, all due respect them,

857
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,679
they're important, they make the truck
go, and they're all losing their jobs

858
00:51:45,679 --> 00:51:49,480
and it's a it's a very unfortunate
situation. But the people who are watching

859
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,800
at home don't know a single person
on that on those photos, and so,

860
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,559
okay, fine to do that,
But then where was the big montage

861
00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:59,880
with now they did I don't know
if you saw this. They did tease

862
00:52:00,079 --> 00:52:04,239
they're going to release something else on
their YouTube page, and maybe that's the

863
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,480
long fight. I think that is
what it's like. I don't, I

864
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:09,079
don't, I don't understand why you
wouldn't have shown that also tonight too.

865
00:52:09,199 --> 00:52:14,320
Maybe you're saving it for the big
reveal on the YouTube page. I don't

866
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:15,800
It doesn't matter. You can still
put it on YouTube on house. I

867
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:21,400
felt like that was a big giant
strikeout. Uh, you know, so

868
00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:28,159
that was disappointing big time. But
that's that's what they did in terms of

869
00:52:28,159 --> 00:52:30,000
of their broadcast. But in terms
of the overall picture of the end of

870
00:52:30,039 --> 00:52:32,280
Showtime, we don't have to rely
on just what they put on the air.

871
00:52:32,519 --> 00:52:36,440
We have our own memories. We
watched Showtime for many years. I've

872
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,840
been watching Showtime, you know,
for most of the existence of that channel.

873
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,760
Uh. You know, I can
still remember one of the first things

874
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,360
I did when I because we always
had in that when I when I lived

875
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,079
with my mother and my sister,
we had HBO in our house. We

876
00:52:49,159 --> 00:52:52,199
never had Showtime, So I never
really got a chance to watch a lot

877
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:53,480
of the Showtime fights unless I was
like over a friend's house. I might

878
00:52:53,519 --> 00:52:57,159
have had it, or somebody like
snuck me a video tape of it,

879
00:52:57,280 --> 00:53:00,199
or you know, when I was
in college and I and I subscribe to

880
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:01,599
it, that sort of thing.
When I lived in an apartment off campus.

881
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:07,840
I didn't really get Showtime full time
in my own dwelling until I moved

882
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:12,119
out of my mother's house and went
and lived in my first non college apartment,

883
00:53:12,679 --> 00:53:15,480
you know, on my own.
This is in like the early nineties,

884
00:53:15,199 --> 00:53:19,519
so I didn't have Showtime for a
long time until that period of time.

885
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,800
So I've been a subscriber ever since. One of the first things I

886
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:24,280
did when I got my own apartment
as an adult and had my first you

887
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:29,559
know, real post college job at
a newspaper in Saratoga Springs, New York,

888
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,400
was when I got my cable,
made sure I was you know,

889
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:36,840
fitted for not only HBO but also
for Showtime. And so this one,

890
00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:38,880
you know, it kind of hurts, like we've talked about, but I

891
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,760
spent a lot. I spent some
time in the last several days of putting

892
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,800
together piece for my sub stack yep, and I hope people will go check

893
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,679
it out it you know where I
rank and the reason I picked the numbers

894
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,039
because it's thirty seven years of Showtime
boxing. So similar to what I did

895
00:53:52,039 --> 00:53:54,760
when HBO and then and I was
still working at ESPN, I did a

896
00:53:54,760 --> 00:54:00,000
piece where I picked the top forty
five HBO fights, and when I say

897
00:54:00,039 --> 00:54:05,800
top, I had described it as
not like the best fight. Necessarily it

898
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:10,119
was the best, biggest, most
memorable, most important fights that they did.

899
00:54:10,159 --> 00:54:14,239
So it's sort of a conglomeration.
And so I did that again for

900
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,280
Showtime, and I did the ranking
of the top thirty seven since his thirty

901
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:22,679
seven years. Now number one is
not a hard pick to make. It's

902
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:27,880
Diego Corrals number one again. You
know, the first fight against Jose Luis

903
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,360
Castillo as I, as I wrote
in the piece, you know it stands

904
00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:34,400
alone period, end of story.
And frankly the next few I think stand

905
00:54:34,440 --> 00:54:36,920
alone also in terms of where they
rank. I mean, you're talking about

906
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:40,280
the two matches between holy Field and
Mike Tyson, which are legendary for their

907
00:54:40,320 --> 00:54:45,840
own reasons. Obviously the not the
fourth fight, but the first three fights

908
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:50,400
of the great Raphael Marquez and Israel
Vazquez trilogy. But Showtime's had so many

909
00:54:50,679 --> 00:54:53,360
great fights. I had thirty seven
spots I could have done like I felt

910
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:57,079
like I would. I wish they
lasted like another few years because I felt

911
00:54:57,119 --> 00:55:00,000
like I needed like about another four
or five spots to really take care.

912
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,239
But you gotta do what you gotta
do when there's so many seven won't do.

913
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,960
It's not enough exactly. But I
mean I was when I was running

914
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:07,880
through the lists and I was like
reliving some of these fights. I watched

915
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,360
a couple of highlights. I went
back and read some of my own stories,

916
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:14,440
and I was preparing this piece.
I really put my heart and soul

917
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:15,480
into it. I mean it's like, you know, as I said to

918
00:55:15,519 --> 00:55:19,360
one of the people at Showtime that
read it, I said, it's it's

919
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,920
you know, I do it because
it's my job and how I make a

920
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:23,559
living when people, you know,
buy a subscription to the site and everything.

921
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,920
But it was really a laborer love. I don't I mean, I

922
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,119
didn't need to do it, but
I mean they had a lot of great

923
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:30,679
fights. I mean somebody like just
just ones that I've been to. For

924
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:37,280
example that I think about Jared Hurd
with that last round knockdown against Aristoni Laura

925
00:55:37,360 --> 00:55:39,199
that gave him the victory, you
know, to become the unified champion at

926
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:45,159
Junior midwaight. The phenomenal experience of
being in Wembley Stadium for a fight that

927
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,639
was live on Showtime but tape delayed
later that day, on HBO when Anthony

928
00:55:47,679 --> 00:55:53,920
Joshua stopped Klitchko to unify through the
hevyweight titles. You know Deontay Wilder's first

929
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:59,400
fight against Tyson Fury with the iconic
moment of that twelve round knockdown, and

930
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:02,039
and Fury, you know, rising
like the Undertaker. H And these are

931
00:56:02,079 --> 00:56:05,920
just fights I was at, you
know, the first fight between Wilder and

932
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:09,280
Luis King Conor Keys, which was
spectacular. And I'm not even talking about

933
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:13,480
fights I wasn't. Like Nigel Ben
against Gerald McClellan, which was a great,

934
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,519
great fight, although a tragic ending, a fight that maybe wasn't a

935
00:56:16,559 --> 00:56:21,000
great fight to watch, but certainly
was a historical nature. You know,

936
00:56:21,039 --> 00:56:23,719
Whittaker and Chavez with the with the
concert on draw. Yes, hey,

937
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:30,000
I joked with you. I still
have the the Hagler Magabi on VHS.

938
00:56:30,199 --> 00:56:34,400
Yeah exactly. I don't have a
working VCR to watch it anymore, but

939
00:56:34,519 --> 00:56:39,480
I have the VHS. And that's
the first ever Tate Delay Showtime Championship broadcast.

940
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:45,159
And that was a tremendous fight,
and it's Marvin Hagler's last win of

941
00:56:45,199 --> 00:56:47,000
it's on my list career. I
mean, it clearly made the top thirty

942
00:56:47,039 --> 00:56:51,199
seven. I mean I have there's
fights like and you know there's more than

943
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:52,719
the one I use, but there's
others. In the tournament, they had

944
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:59,320
that very uh popular tournament that the
super uh the what was it called the

945
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,239
Super six World Boxing Classic, when
they took six of the top super middleweights

946
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,920
and they put him in a round
robin tournament. It took about three years

947
00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:07,920
to go through. It should have
taken little less, but there were some

948
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,360
delays. But in the end that
was what really put andre Ward on the

949
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:15,239
map. In the final, he
unified against Carlo Frotch. Speaking of Froch,

950
00:57:15,519 --> 00:57:17,639
you know, being their ringside when
he was getting his ass kicked by

951
00:57:17,679 --> 00:57:21,360
Jermaine Taylor, who had knocked him
down early in that fight, first time

952
00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:22,840
he'd ever been knocked down, and
he was on his way to a win,

953
00:57:23,119 --> 00:57:27,880
and Carl Froch stopped him with fourteen
seconds left, shades of Meldrick,

954
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:31,320
Taylor, and Chavez won probably one
of the most underrated heavyweight fights of our

955
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:35,599
you know, the last twenty five
years. If you've never seen it,

956
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,039
check it out, find it on
YouTube. It's well worth your time and

957
00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:43,719
effort. And this was when Sergei
Layakovich won the twelve round decision against Leman

958
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:49,480
Brewster to win the WBO heavyweight title. This was a tremendous, action packed

959
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,800
heavyweight title fight, and you have
some of the biggest names that were there

960
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:57,320
that had their biggest wins, whether
it's Joe kal Zagi in a huge unification

961
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:01,119
against Jeff Lacy in a fight where
Lacy was the favorite going to Kalsaggy's home

962
00:58:01,159 --> 00:58:06,199
country and kyl Zaggie tearing him apart
for twelve rounds and basically ending Jeff Lacy's

963
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:09,800
career in the best performance of Joe's
career. That is one of the main

964
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:14,480
reasons he's in the Hall of Fame. Popo fred Us unifying the titles against

965
00:58:14,679 --> 00:58:17,440
Joel Casimayer in a one hundred and
thirty pound title fight courtesy a knockdout in

966
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:22,400
a point deduction in a tremendously close
fight. How about this on Showtime,

967
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:30,159
the Evander Holyfield became the undisputed Cruiserweight
Champion when he unified the three belts.

968
00:58:30,159 --> 00:58:32,199
Now that fight didn't make the list, but they The second guy to ever

969
00:58:32,239 --> 00:58:37,400
become the undisputed Crewe champion was one
O Bell in a brutal tenth round knockout

970
00:58:37,679 --> 00:58:44,440
against John Mark Mormack in a phenomenally
incredibly exciting, blazing undercard fight to become

971
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,679
the undisputed champion. That was on
Showtime. And I was there when when

972
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:52,440
Carl Frampton fought Leo Santa Cruz and
their featherweight fight that was the first of

973
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:53,800
their two battles. The first one
was a fight of the year kin,

974
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:57,159
it was a great, great fight. And then we have other fights,

975
00:58:57,159 --> 00:59:00,679
of course that are not necessarily of
the great blazing action variety, but huge

976
00:59:00,719 --> 00:59:05,480
fucking events Mayweather packet which they shared
with HBO Mayweather Canelo, all those huge

977
00:59:05,559 --> 00:59:08,719
Mayweather fights. You had a Vander
Holyfield becoming the undisputed champion on Showtime when

978
00:59:08,719 --> 00:59:15,079
he knocked out Buster Douglas. You
had Felix Trinidad with becoming at like age

979
00:59:15,159 --> 00:59:19,639
nineteen or twenty the welterweight IBF champion
with a huge knockout against Murray's blocker.

980
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:22,960
When he won the title at junior
middleweight in a very rousing, exciting fight

981
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:28,079
against David Reid. He had the
biggest crowd in the history of boxing on

982
00:59:28,119 --> 00:59:31,159
the night that Julio says Ar Chavas
in the Estadio s Techas Stadium in Mexico

983
00:59:31,239 --> 00:59:35,800
City against Greg Hougan, where they
drew almost one hundred and thirty three thousand

984
00:59:36,119 --> 00:59:37,239
fans for the fight. I mean, I could go on for fucking years.

985
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:39,480
We didn't get like, you know, just this year alone, he

986
00:59:39,519 --> 00:59:45,320
got Tank Davis and Ryan Garcia and
Canello and Charlow and Errol Spence and Terrence

987
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:47,679
Crawford and Terrence Crawford with what I
consider and I actually put that on my

988
00:59:47,719 --> 00:59:52,280
list. I referred to it as
one of the best big time fight wins

989
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:55,400
in recent history in terms of a
guy standing out in a big time fight

990
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,920
that's about as big and good as
it gets. I mean, there are

991
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:04,440
so many memory ball fights that the
great rivalry fights between Johnny Tapia and Pauli

992
01:00:04,519 --> 01:00:06,960
a Ala one of them, the
first one being named the fight of the

993
01:00:07,039 --> 01:00:12,760
year, the very underrated war,
you know. I know, Vander Holyfeld

994
01:00:12,800 --> 01:00:15,039
has so many great fights, but
this one gets lost in the shuffle for

995
01:00:15,039 --> 01:00:17,920
some reason. Holy Field's great first
real test at heavyweight when he moved up

996
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,480
in a battle with Michael Doaks,
who was still a serviceable quality you know,

997
01:00:22,559 --> 01:00:27,840
former champion. We talked about it
briefly Tommy Hearns becoming the four division

998
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:31,599
champion on showtime when he knocked out
je Domingo roll Dan in a very exciting

999
01:00:31,599 --> 01:00:36,199
fight. I mean, on and
on and on and on. Well,

1000
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:40,119
it was tremendous to reflect, and
you did a great job encapsulating. There's

1001
01:00:40,159 --> 01:00:44,679
a big word on our recap podcast, all of it. I will say

1002
01:00:44,679 --> 01:00:47,400
a couple of other things. And
again they did an amazing job. The

1003
01:00:47,519 --> 01:00:51,480
tribute that Jim Gray did at the
end he'd been working on that he held

1004
01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:55,280
it together, he didn't get emotional
to bust it up. They did a

1005
01:00:55,320 --> 01:01:00,199
great job of interviewing Marl Ronalo with
his thoughts, al Bern's team, his

1006
01:01:00,239 --> 01:01:02,800
thoughts live Brian Custer. Those guys
have all been together for over a decade

1007
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:07,880
doing this together. The one disappointment
I had is you did not see or

1008
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:12,800
hear from Steve Albert, who as
far as I know, still living,

1009
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:15,480
still capable, still. I don't
know why they didn't have him at least

1010
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say I think I don't know this. I think they may have an interview

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01:01:20,559 --> 01:01:22,639
with him that will run in that. Let's hope so and Barry Tompkins the

1012
01:01:22,719 --> 01:01:27,719
same way I would have loved to
have had something from both of them on

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01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:31,280
the final broadcast because they've called so
many fights on show to I know Tompkins

1014
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:37,039
was with HBO first, but he
had to have called fifty sixty, seventy

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01:01:37,199 --> 01:01:42,039
or more significant fights on Showtime.
So and Steve Albert certainly did in the

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01:01:42,199 --> 01:01:45,360
in the nineties and in the two
thousands, all the big fights. I

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just would have loved to have heard
a little from them in their perspective.

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01:01:47,679 --> 01:01:52,639
And as you say, maybe we
will. And the one name that I

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01:01:52,679 --> 01:01:54,679
hope finds its way if they're doing
whatever that feature is. Obviously they can't

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do an interview. Maybe there'll be
a dedication or something. But his name

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01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,800
was mentioned once and I found that
to be unfortunate. And that's the late

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great Jay Larkin. Jay Larkin is
the first ever president of Showtime Sports.

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01:02:07,719 --> 01:02:12,519
He ran that department, you know, for from day one, for many

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01:02:12,559 --> 01:02:15,400
many years. He was unceremoniously let
go, like what happens with a lot

1025
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:19,440
of executives when there are changes at
the top. You know. He passed

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01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,440
away a number of years ago from
brain cancer. He was he was inducted

1027
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,840
into the Boxing Hall of Fame,
not this summer but the previous summer his

1028
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:30,320
family, his wife and his children
were there to accept his induction. I

1029
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:34,159
was very close to Jay, and
you know, he coined the phrase at

1030
01:02:34,159 --> 01:02:37,559
a period of time when they were
not doing business where they were just with

1031
01:02:37,599 --> 01:02:39,639
one promoter, because they had been
for a ment number of years with Don

1032
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:44,800
King only. But he coined the
phrase great fights, no rights, in

1033
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,199
other words, at a time when
HBO was doing deals with promoters and output

1034
01:02:47,199 --> 01:02:50,840
deals. You know, Jay wanted
to be able to say, bring us

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01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:53,440
this great fight, will bid a
very good number on it, and you

1036
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,880
can go your merry way. We
don't We're not looking to tie you up.

1037
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We just want to give the best
fight to our our reviewer. Now,

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01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,519
that's easy to do it from the
standpoint when you're in second place.

1039
01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:06,519
You know, when you're when you're
chasing HBO, which was always sort of

1040
01:03:06,559 --> 01:03:09,119
the eight hundred pound grill of Bud. Jay No navigated through that very well,

1041
01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:12,880
and I thought he did a great
job for the most part once he

1042
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,559
was free of the output deal from
Don King. Okay, we gave you

1043
01:03:16,599 --> 01:03:19,679
a lot, We gave you a
lot on the nostalgia of that, and

1044
01:03:19,719 --> 01:03:22,760
again a little more to come,
probably and it's now done. It's past

1045
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,360
tense, Rayphael, It's now done
for Showtime Championship Boxing. And we'll see

1046
01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:30,159
what PBC does, not only with
their deal with Amazon, but if they

1047
01:03:30,159 --> 01:03:32,920
have another deal, and how many
of these announcers and people are still involved.

1048
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,639
We don't know. You bring up
a great point that it's not a

1049
01:03:36,679 --> 01:03:38,400
guarantee. We'll see. We'll see
what they do from here on out.

1050
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:43,280
We do know this busy, busy
show, the Showtime close out for the

1051
01:03:43,360 --> 01:03:46,239
end of this year and for good
is the Morell Knockout, the Matchroom main

1052
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:52,880
event that saw the great knockout for
Bam Rodriguez and his stardom rising up Jake

1053
01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:55,519
Paul that we talked about, he
wins. You heard from Deontay Wilder,

1054
01:03:55,559 --> 01:03:59,840
you got news, you got nostalgia. That's a full show, that's a

1055
01:04:00,599 --> 01:04:02,840
people. What else can we give
the people unless we gave them free money?

1056
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,280
I don't know. I don't know
what we've done well for the recap

1057
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:10,440
here. All I know is it's
saudy day of reckoning Fight week as we

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01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:13,880
go into later this week, preview
Mode, bet Us Show, etc.

1059
01:04:14,639 --> 01:04:19,199
The Heavyweight co main events with Anthony
Joshua's fight, Deontay Wilders fight championship fights

1060
01:04:19,199 --> 01:04:23,960
on the undercard, other heavyweights on
the undercard. We look forward to talking

1061
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,599
about that later on in the week. For now, though, I think

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01:04:26,639 --> 01:04:30,639
we're good, my friend. I
appreciate it as always a full recap,

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01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:34,039
and we'll get ready for one of
the last two weeks of twenty twenty three.

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01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:38,440
How about that coming up this week? All right, my friend,

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01:04:38,440 --> 01:04:42,800
good stuff? All right, my
man, appreciate that there's Dan Rayfield.

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01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,960
I'm herely TJ Reeves again. Make
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01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:50,000
It is the Fight Freaks United Recap
off the weekend, and we are

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01:04:50,039 --> 01:04:54,519
good for now. Enjoy the rest
of your week. We're back to talk

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01:04:54,679 --> 01:04:58,719
day of reckoning in the preview mode
with all the heavyweights and stuff later in

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01:04:58,719 --> 01:05:00,519
the week right here on the Big
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